Chrono Trigger: Chrono Symphonic - History

[Claado Shou]

I'll let Compy worry about ellywu2....no point in all of us getting on his case if we can't even find him. As for what we do if he never appears, reproducing his music is at a slightly-below-zero probability of happening. No way we could do it in time, and his three songs are three of the best. Sorry.

Also, for the lyrics, they will be added to the website, as well as on the CD art, and perhaps in other places, whatever Compy comes up with. At this point most of the micromanaging is between Compyfox, Rexy, and Eon_Blue on art and prep, but when that final run comes along, it'll be me, DJP, and StarZander getting the show running. And then release. And then a happier world, if only for the hour and a half of music they receive. :)

~.C.S.~

[Aurora Firestorm]

So in other words, if ellywu2 doesn't show up, the project dies and no one gets to see all the other songs that were finished? And you mentioned finishing "in time" -- are you still going for mid-October?

[Claado Shou]

No...if ellywu2 doesn't show up, we use his MP3 files and not the WAV files Compyfox is hoping for. Seeing as how every song on the project is 100% complete, as per the front page, I don't understand what train of logic you followed to assume we would screw the rest of the songs. No offense, but that was a pretty un-enlightened remark.

As for the release date, we have a timeframe in mind, but yet again, no exact date. Believe me, I'll be the first one to inform you when we know. I'm not keeping secrets, I promise. :twisted:

~.C.S.~

[sephfire]

Ah, ok, I like your plan better Claado. I'm no audio engineer, so I wasn't really sure what Compy could do with the mp3s. I'm glad to hear that that's the gameplan though. Cool.

PS: sorry, I wasn't trying to micromanage back there, I was just curious about what the plan was.

[Compyfox]

Actually... ellywu showed a sign of "life" at GD, I'm on his trail already, too. More soon.

[sephfire]

Actually... ellywu showed a sign of "life" at GD, I'm on his trail already, too. More soon.

Come, Watson! The game is afoot! :wink:

[Bongo Bill]

If you find him, say "Forgiveness later; music now!"

[Drack]

I can mirror 45MB worth of space if needed.

[Sparticus]

i would mirror it but i dont know how to work my firewall lol. anyway, i cant wait till i can download this one. i love chrono trigger. And i allready downloaded burned and printed all the other albums (Kong, Sonic2, Kirby, Doom, and Metroid) I just love how yall remixed it all.. sounds great, and i know this one will sound great as well!

[Liontamer]

I can mirror 45MB worth of space if needed.
Uhhh...how about 45TB?

[Claado Shou]

Yeah, 45 MB prolly won't cut it.

Topic title changed to reflect needs.

~.C.S.~

[Bongo Bill]

I have 5GB storage, 100GB/month transfer. Please acknowledge. I want to be a mirror, if I can.

[Eon_Blue]

The cover is coming along nicely. I won't post a link in the thread, but if you're lucky, I sometimes look for feedback in #ocremix, and I'll post the wip there while I work on it.

I'm currently brightening things up a little bit - it was REALLY dark when I printed out a test copy. So far, I have the front cover with the first inlay page - you'll print it, then fold it in half for the front and back of the insert. There's also the back insert of the CD (the part that actually goes behind the CD holder in the jewel case), which is essentially finished. All that's left is the *back* of the front insert text (where the CD description goes, special thanks, etc), and maybe spicing things up a little bit.

Anyway, looks good so far.

[DarkeSword]

I can mirror 45MB worth of space if needed.
Uhhh...how about 45TB?

He meant storage space, not transfer. :roll:

[Zeality]

Lmao.

[Compyfox]

To be on the save side, expect 180MB, better if 200MB. I'm pretty sure we won't reach that one, but then you're always on the save side. According to that, you can do the math what the bandwidth will be.

Also keep in mind that there also will be torrent files. So I'd go via that system rather than clogging bandwidth. And the sharing goes a tad faster.


Engineering goes along nicely too. Aside from my headaches. More soon.

[KyleJCrb]

I can mirror 45MB worth of space if needed.
Uhhh...how about 45TB?

He meant storage space, not transfer. :roll:

What? You've never heard of a Terrabyte? :P

[Sparticus]

when are the torrent files for the album going to be up

[DarkeSword]

when are the torrent files for the album going to be up

When the album is released.

In other words, don't ask when the album comes out; it will be out when it's out.

I can mirror 45MB worth of space if needed.
Uhhh...how about 45TB?

He meant storage space, not transfer. :roll:

What? You've never heard of a Terrabyte? :P

??

I don't understand your attempt at humor. :?:

[KyleJCrb]

when are the torrent files for the album going to be up

When the project is fully mastered and ready for release. Read the last couple pages, at least.

[Jillian Aversa]

Hey, I just checked up on my bandwidth stats and stuff. You can *definitely* put me down as a mirror. Turns out I have 50GB of monthly bandwidth. I think that should be more than enough.

[Electronic Samurai]

The cover is coming along nicely. I won't post a link in the thread, but if you're lucky, I sometimes look for feedback in #ocremix, and I'll post the wip there while I work on it.

I'm currently brightening things up a little bit - it was REALLY dark when I printed out a test copy. So far, I have the front cover with the first inlay page - you'll print it, then fold it in half for the front and back of the insert. There's also the back insert of the CD (the part that actually goes behind the CD holder in the jewel case), which is essentially finished. All that's left is the *back* of the front insert text (where the CD description goes, special thanks, etc), and maybe spicing things up a little bit.

Anyway, looks good so far.

Will there be any alternate case designs? I'm looking in particular for a thin-case style.

[Zeality]

Just for relative estimate, Dark Side of Phobos broke in herograw's server a good 180 gigs. He can handle 500 now (which is good, since the Compendium's stuff is all on there), but this is a warning to others.

[Eon_Blue]

Will there be any alternate case designs? I'm looking in particular for a thin-case style.

What's the difference between the thin and thick cases? If it's only the depth of the case, the edges of the back insert could be cropped off... I imagine that'd work.

Someone here mentioned a DVD style case design. As cool as that would be, it'd require a redesign of the cover itself (as the main cover is designed to be square, or close to it...)

[Compyfox]

when are the torrent files for the album going to be up

I'm working on that one. Patience... patience. Like DarkeSword and KyleJCrb said: "It'll be out when it's out".


Will there be any alternate case designs? I'm looking in particular for a thin-case style.

You more have to aim for a "douple CD" case as the soundtrack project will be released in that form. And yeah, I was the one who asked for a DVD Cover, but it's all right. Not nessecarily needed. ;)

[Electronic Samurai]

What's the difference between the thin and thick cases? If it's only the depth of the case, the edges of the back insert could be cropped off... I imagine that'd work.


As far as I've seen, the thin cases have no sidings and just a front and inset cover (no back). I think they're also slightly smaller length- and height-wise, although I don't have a larger case to compare it with.

What I'm mostly worried about is losing information or artwork if I don't use the back cover, or if I replace the inset with the back (as often do when buring with a thin case).

Do you have the tracklist on the back or on the inset?

[Eon_Blue]

What's the difference between the thin and thick cases? If it's only the depth of the case, the edges of the back insert could be cropped off... I imagine that'd work.


As far as I've seen, the thin cases have no sidings and just a front and inset cover (no back). I think they're also slightly smaller length- and height-wise, although I don't have a larger case to compare it with.

What I'm mostly worried about is losing information or artwork if I don't use the back cover, or if I replace the inset with the back (as often do when buring with a thin case).

Do you have the tracklist on the back or on the inset?

Back. The inset will contain info, special thanks, etc.

I could easily make a version where the inset cover has the information of the back... or you could just cut and paste the image...

[Compyfox]

As far as I've seen, the thin cases have no sidings and just a front and inset cover (no back). I think they're also slightly smaller length- and height-wise, although I don't have a larger case to compare it with.

Slim Cases are as big as regular CD cases, but only half a s thick and can only hold 1 CD.

Do you have the tracklist on the back or on the inset?

So far it's on the backside unless Eon does something else.


One thing that eludes me though... it's a planend 2CD release... why do you want to have it in a slim case? I mean... if you buy professional soundtracks, are they in a slim case too? Especially double CD releases? I guess not. And what if it'll be a 3CD release (like the ToP/ToD project is aiming at), will you go with slim cases too?

I just don't get the point here.

[KyleJCrb]

One thing that eludes me though... it's a planend 2CD release... why do you want to have it in a slim case? I mean... if you buy professional soundtracks, are they in a slim case too? Especially double CD releases? I guess not. And what if it'll be a 3CD release (like the ToP/ToD project is aiming at), will you go with slim cases too?

4, actually. And we thought about including something from ToD, but decided against it. I believe you meant ToS. :P

[Eon_Blue]

As far as I've seen, the thin cases have no sidings and just a front and inset cover (no back). I think they're also slightly smaller length- and height-wise, although I don't have a larger case to compare it with.

Slim Cases are as big as regular CD cases, but only half a s thick and can only hold 1 CD.

Do you have the tracklist on the back or on the inset?

So far it's on the backside unless Eon does something else.


One thing that eludes me though... it's a planend 2CD release... why do you want to have it in a slim case? I mean... if you buy professional soundtracks, are they in a slim case too? Especially double CD releases? I guess not. And what if it'll be a 3CD release (like the ToP/ToD project is aiming at), will you go with slim cases too?

I just don't get the point here.

For any three disc project, it'd be REALLY cool to do three seperate covers, and then have some sort of cardboard case for all three. That ventures into actual manufacturing, rather than just printing off a few pages...

But still, to be able to manufacture maybe 100 of these, and sell them on the site. That'd be pretty awesome.

[PLBenjaminZ]

um yay I finally got a hold of all my remixing files... too bad it's too late to really matter now lol... oh well sorry for the trouble everyone.

[Claado Shou]

Damn...my intarnet goes out for a little while and the thread gets swamped with posts. Good deal.

Yeah, everything Compy and the others said. Bongo Bill, I will place you down as a mirror(er) immediately. ThanXX0rz.

~.C.S.~

[KyleJCrb]

I can mirror 45MB worth of space if needed.
Uhhh...how about 45TB?

He meant storage space, not transfer. :roll:

What? You've never heard of a Terrabyte? :P

??

I don't understand your attempt at humor. :?:

Looking back now, I realize that I misread what you wrote, therefore making my attempt at a joke a failure. Oh well. :P

But yes, I upgraded my server space and bandwidth last week, so I'm ready for the release of this!

[watkinzez]

Just a quick question. Apparently for some songs on the project a length restriction was put upon the remixer (which is why Predetermination was rejected, I think). If there is no actual movie you are scoring to, why was this done?

[Navi]

Yeahhhhh, I'm still recovering from DSoP BUT i might be able to mirror, so...


yeahhh...don't put me down just yet.

[Zeality]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/watkinzez/blackbooksocremixhalloween2.jpg

That chick in the middle is somewhat hot. Irish, I take it?

[watkinzez]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/watkinzez/blackbooksocremixhalloween2.jpg

That chick in the middle is somewhat hot. Irish, I take it?

Probably. And I call myself a Black Books fan..

[Compyfox]

Just a quick question. Apparently for some songs on the project a length restriction was put upon the remixer (which is why Predetermination was rejected, I think). If there is no actual movie you are scoring to, why was this done?

Uhm... "Schala and the Queen" is over 6:30min. Predetermination (which is only like 4:20min long) was an audition track and is still in the release.

It's more like that the tracks are a bit short rather than long. That's also due to the fact that a lot of mixers simply didn't write more materal because they thought this wasn't necessary. I never heard of a rejection due to songlength to be honest.

[watkinzez]

Just a quick question. Apparently for some songs on the project a length restriction was put upon the remixer (which is why Predetermination was rejected, I think). If there is no actual movie you are scoring to, why was this done?

Uhm... "Schala and the Queen" is over 6:30min. Predetermination (which is only like 4:20min long) was an audition track and is still in the release.

It's more like that the tracks are a bit short rather than long. That's also due to the fact that a lot of mixers simply didn't write more materal because they thought this wasn't necessary. I never heard of a rejection due to songlength to be honest.

Oh, okay. I was just looking at this (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3981) and was wondering why (haven't listened to it though, waiting for the release).

[Compyfox]

I guess that came up due to the post on this page here from Claado:

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45588&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

He had a filming script in mind which later turned out to be a bit "moving away" from the bound film type length. At least in some terms. Claado might go a bit better into that. But if it's really true due to the limitation of the "songlength" that some songs had to be "cut down", that'd be a pity for a handful of tracks. Then again, most of them would be looping over and over (like the SPCs) to get to the point, so yeah. You have to balance that out, which isn't easy either.


I can at least say that most of the tracks are over 2:30min. Over 60% to about 70% of the OST have tracks with a length of like 3:00-3:30min avg. to 6:30min (max). Which is still fair in my opinion. And there's also the bonus material.

[Claado Shou]

Yes, every song on the project was supposed to meet a specific time limit for that scene. Remember, there is a script for the movie; the general screenplay convention is 1 page of writing = 1 minute of screen time. So, depending on scene length, estimated times were created. Many songs were off by 15-30 seconds, but it's all good anyway. I'm not as picky now as I used to be.

Also, Predetermination was rejected not only for its length but also because it doesn't suit an opening cinematic that well. Inciting Incident did that much better (in my opinion).

~.C.S.~

[Jillian Aversa]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that UnforgivingEdges interviewed me on his radio show (Press Start) yesterday, and I plugged Chrono Symphonic! Have a listen here (http://www.kylejcrb.com/mirrors/PressStart/PressStart_10-5-05.mp3) if you're interested. The part about CS comes in at around 30:24. I sound so lame... :oops: But at least it's spreading the word, right?

[Claado Shou]

Shou...it's Claado Shou...there's an "O" in there.

But it's all whatever. Nice interview. You don't sound lame at all. In fact, I think you soundin' a-pretty nice.

*insert Monty Python-esque French accent above*

~.C.S.~

[Russell Cox]

21 - Russel Cox - The Chrono Trigger [POST]
*I hate to tell you what to change, as you have experience in "real orchestration"... but sorry*
- Maybe balancing out the dissonances (faggot and brass) around 1:00? The brass drowns here a bit
- Around 2:40 the brass either more prominent or less promiment. Sounds a bit strange here
*would have loved to hear "Good Friends" at the end of the CD though, but can't be helped, hehe*

1) The muted horns are supposed to cut through everything then fade away; according to the script it's parts of the conversation where Chrono realizes something's not right with his mother.

2) The only brass playing is french horns with a soft sample; they mesh with the Voilas one the same passage. Unless you're talking about the "buzz" sound from the Bassoon section as it gets into the lower register I have no clue what you're referring to.

Did you get the .mp3 as Claado said it was lost (I sent an email)? The computer I use for music is put up into storage (hence why I had to back out of the DQ/DW project) so as "assholic" as it sounds I'm afraid you're going to have to take those "as-is".

[Compyfox]

All I wanted to know, thanks.

[Zeality]

Damn, was I mentioned :)

Anyway, since I'll be handling the Slashdot posting and interviewed the remixers, can I be billed on the Wiki page is publicist or something?

[Compyfox]

I'd say PM Larry about it. Though you're already there with "Chrono Compendium".

[Zeality]

What estimate are we looking at, now? If this is private information, someone PM me, at least. I have to decide whether to release a new feature this week at the Compendium, or add it to a list of things to release after Symphonic. Symphonic will eclipse things close to its release, so I'm holding some aces in my sleeve.

[Compyfox]

Just wrote you a PM about that. We can't make that official to the public yet, unfortunately. ;)

Chrono Symphonic will be out, when it's out.
You still have to wait, sorry.

[sephfire]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that UnforgivingEdges interviewed me on his radio show (Press Start) yesterday, and I plugged Chrono Symphonic! Have a listen here (http://www.kylejcrb.com/mirrors/PressStart/PressStart_10-5-05.mp3) if you're interested. The part about CS comes in at around 30:24. I sound so lame... :oops: But at least it's spreading the word, right?

Hey cool! I didn't expect to hear Journey's End plugs! That little surprise made my Friday. :D

[herograw]

yup

[Tegeran]

I've got a box with over a terabyte of monthly transfer on a 10mbps link that currently goes largely unused that I'd be happy to mirror CS on. I can help seed the torrent, too.

[TrueLugia121]

that's great. obviously servers are costing big $$$$$$$$ but making the most of it's one thing you can't get away from doing right?

[Claado Shou]

Thank you very much for putting yourself down, Tegeran. I'll get you on the list immediately.

~.C.S.~

[Jillian Aversa]

Hey cool! I didn't expect to hear Journey's End plugs! That little surprise made my Friday. :D
Yeah, seph! Did you ever hear episode 017 (http://www.vgdj.net/Shows/VGDJ_ep_017.mp3) of VGDJ? Just listen starting at 32:27, where the stinger is, hehehe. :wink:

[sephfire]

Hey cool! I didn't expect to hear Journey's End plugs! That little surprise made my Friday. :D
Yeah, seph! Did you ever hear episode 017 (http://www.vgdj.net/Shows/VGDJ_ep_017.mp3) of VGDJ? Just listen starting at 32:27, where the stinger is, hehehe. :wink:

Yeah, I heard that one too. Both great interviews. I just wasn't expecting it in the Press Start interview. :D

[Jillian Aversa]

Yeah, I heard that one too. Both great interviews. I just wasn't expecting it in the Press Start interview. :D
Wait, are you sure you listened to the thing I just linked you to? Because that wasn't an interview in VGDJ- it's from a more recent episode than the one our song was actually reviewed in. It's just something funny Rayza put together from my voice clips. ^_~

[Compyfox]

Uhm... could you discuss that somehwere else, please? This is still the C.S. thread and nothing about Journeys End or random radio shows after all.

Thanks.

[Jillian Aversa]

Uhm... could you discuss that somehwere else, please? This is still the C.S. thread and nothing about Journeys End or random radio shows after all.

Thanks.

Sephfire PM'ed me to continue the discussion; sorry it got off-track. But it's not a "random radio show." If you read before, you might have noticed that I plugged Chrono Symphonic during my interview, and that's why I posted in the first place.

I'm getting sick and tired of your attitude, Compy. No offense, but Andrew is the project head here. And you're not a moderator, either. Leave those things to the people actually in charge. :roll:

EDIT:
I changed your sig for you. Here you go!
http://tinypic.com/egr6v4.png

[Eon_Blue]

Uhm... could you discuss that somehwere else, please? This is still the C.S. thread and nothing about Journeys End or random radio shows after all.

Thanks.

Sephfire PM'ed me to continue the discussion; sorry it got off-track. But it's not a "random radio show." If you read before, you might have noticed that I plugged Chrono Symphonic during my interview, and that's why I posted in the first place.

I'm getting sick and tired of your attitude, Compy. No offense, but Andrew is the project head here. And you're not a moderator, either. Leave those things to the people actually in charge. :roll:

EDIT:
I changed your sig for you. Here you go!
http://tinypic.com/egr6v4.png

While I respect that Compy is just trying to preserve the integrity of the thread and discussion....




...that was hilarious. Well played Pixie, well played.

[Zeality]

oooooo noeeees, its the offikal o-see-r radio show

u will be banned if u keep talkin bad bout it compy :(

[Compyfox]

But it's not a "random radio show." If you read before, you might have noticed that I plugged Chrono Symphonic during my interview, and that's why I posted in the first place.

A plug in form of like two sentences "Yeah I sang for two of the tracks, so check it out". Very informative - as if there's noone else on the project and you're more or less the "leading light".


Claado is the project leader, indeed. But I'm the engineer, not somebody else. I have to level out the whole project to let it sound "good" (more like even). I have to have more stuff in my head than most of you.

So far I raised the quality of almost all songs, fixed with almost all mixers (even PLBenjaminZ) issues in their arrangements and right now I'm in the middle of finishing the tracks from SirRus (tomorrow it'll be the track from Reuben, and right now EllyWu is uploading "Schala and the Queen" where I'll insert "cleaned up" vocals from a MAC microphone recording).

*jeez!*

[extrakun]

I think it would only get ugly if everyone started questioning the worth of each team-mate. Take a deep breath, everyone...

[sephfire]

We've all put in a lot of time and stress into this project over the past year. For some of us that stress has been stretched over the whole length and for others it's been compressed into a short, panicked session near the project's end where everyone starts getting edgy and impatient.

Let's not start going for each other's throats here. We're in the home stretch.

I think it would only get ugly if everyone started questioning the worth of each team-mate. Take a deep breath, everyone...

For emphasis.

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

Hey, hey, remember these guys?
http://www.flensburg-online.de/beatles/with-the-beatles-gross.jpg

Calm down everybody.

[Eon_Blue]

I HIGHLY suggest Compy's last post be deleted, before a lot of people see it, and lot of people get VERY upset having their work spoken about the way it was.

We're too far in the game to let controversy stir the pot now.

[bladiator]

I think it should stay. Feelings might get hurt, or maybe this will make people stronger. Either way, who's to say that projects have to be all lovey-dovey all the way to the end? When the project is over, let this stand as testimony to the fact that in spite of each other, you all somehow lived through it and came out with a good project in the end. Yay controversy!

[Compyfox]

I wrote that due to a reason!

And if you allow me a quote by Bob Katz from his book "Mastering Audio", Chapter 1, Page 20 in terms of "the work of an engineer":

Attention to detail. The last 10% of the job takes 90% of the time.

Just a little sentence to think about. Cause some are just simply forgetting that along with a handful of other things I won't get into now.

[Rexy]

I think it should stay. Feelings might get hurt, or maybe this will make people stronger. Either way, who's to say that projects have to be all lovey-dovey all the way to the end?
Quoted for emphasis.

Now please leave Compy alone as he finishes off the mastering phase. It's not long until CS is up and off the ground, so you can bitch at each other *then*, ok?

[DarkeSword]

Claado is the project leader, indeed. But I'm the engineer, not somebody else.

And as such, you should focus on the sound engeering, rather than moderating the thread. It is not your job to keep the discussion on track, especially considering the discussion was on topic.

Your post was highly uncalled for, and you should consider toning down your attitude and apologizing. We know you're engineering the project; it's a fact you've made very apparent. Make no mistake: every artist on this project definitely appreciates it; but you need to show some respect to the artists whose work you're mastering.

So how about instead of worrying about what people are talking about in the thread, you just focus on your work? If there are on-topic posts that don't have to do with the engineering, ignore them.

[Zeality]

Can I write in size 18 font for big emphasis too?

The music isn't "shit." The unmastered raws are in terms of mastering quality. Get your terms correct.

Anyway, I'm very in tune with a meritocracy here, as well as free speech. I've been there before, considering I authored 90% of the content on the encyclopedia and features sections of my site, and presented 90% of the articles. CompyFox has been told to "FINISH THIS BY (CERTAIN DATE) NOW" and it's tough considering he spends several fucking hours a day on it. Compared to several hours spent over an entire year by remixers, you can see the imbalance of workload. The mastering was also sort of thrown in at the last minute while the 29th date was still on, so it's kind of breakneck.

[DrumUltimA]

kekekeke

[Blake]

Poor attempt to lighten mood:
http://ualuealuealeuale.ytmnd.com/


:lol: :D :o :) :(

[Jillian Aversa]

Claado is the project leader, indeed. But I'm the engineer, not somebody else.
And as such, you should focus on the sound engeering, rather than moderating the thread. It is not your job to keep the discussion on track, especially considering the discussion was on topic.

Your post was highly uncalled for, and you should consider toning down your attitude and apologizing. We know you're engineering the project; it's a fact you've made very apparent. Make no mistake: every artist on this project definitely appreciates it; but you need to show some respect to the artists whose work you're mastering.

So how about instead of worrying about what people are talking about in the thread, you just focus on your work? If there are on-topic posts that don't have to do with the engineering, ignore them.
Exactly. I wasn't attacking your mastering at all, Compy, but rather pointing out that you have overstepped your realm of duty. Did I say anything about the mastering in my post? I don't know where this crazy rant is coming from. Of course I appreciate the work you're doing for this project, as do we all.


But it's not a "random radio show." If you read before, you might have noticed that I plugged Chrono Symphonic during my interview, and that's why I posted in the first place.
A plug in form of like two sentences "Yeah I sang for two of the tracks, so check it out". Very informative - as if there's noone else on the project and you're more or less the "leading light".
Okay... Yes, I *did* talk about my involvement in it. Why? Because the interview was about me. How does that make me an attention whore, when I was asked for an interview? UnforgivingEdges wasn't even planning on talking about the project in the first place, so I tacked on the plug at the end. I'm sorry that I wasn't able to cover C.S. fully, but we were on a strict time limit and that wasn't the point of the interview. Episode #021 of VGDJ (http://www.vgdj.net/Shows/VGDJ_ep_021.mp3) has the extensive coverage on that. I never claimed that Press Start C.S. coverage was in-depth- just that it was there.

Just do your job, and let Claado and Darkesword (or the other mods) do theirs. This wasn't the first time you stepped outside your role of "audio engineer," Compy. That's all I'm saying. M.Y.O.B. :?

I hope we can put this to rest now. It might help to prevent these kinds of situations if Claado were around more often... But, y'know, he's busy.

[Aurora]

Poor attempt to lighten mood:
http://ualuealuealeuale.ytmnd.com/


:lol: :D :o :) :(

that was REALLY funny

[Liontamer]

Uh, I think (rightly or wrongly, I don't care) Roland was pissed about the thread sidetracking into conversation more about Journey's End, rather than the CS portion of the Press Start interview. But anyway, y'all can chill.

[Claado Shou]

I hope it's not too late for ME to have a say in the matter. :oops:

Pixie, while I agree that Compy is only on the project as an "audio engineer", I have stated before (earlier in this thread, I believe) that for the time being, Compy and Rexy and Eon_Blue are the people handling the majority of the work. I'm pretty much just sitting back and waiting for this whole thing to come back into my own realm of handling, a.k.a. the uploading, torrent-ing, etc. So if Compy feels the need to ask for someone to stay focused on the project, then that's not only his prerogative, that's his temporary right. No offense, but having read the last page and a half of banter, it certainly seems that the assault was brought on not by Compyfox's over-management, but your accusation of such.

Compyfox, don't call the music on this project "shit". You're not the only important one around here, and just because you see your own role of being "sound bitch" as a necessary, perhaps even quintessential piece of the Chrono Symphonic puzzle, it doesn't mean you have the right to beat down on everyone else, even if provoked. That's not your job; that's not anyone's job. Keep the rants and the rage in PM form between the people involved. Do it the Navy way: publicly praise, privately punish. It's worked for hundreds of years, and it should keep working for us.

Everyone else, I believe I should quote Officer Barbrady for emphasis:

"Alright people, nothing to see here, just go back to your homes."

~.C.S.~

[TrueLugia121]

then fergive me when i say this project is gonna rock. but that's just only one mans opinion though.
everyone else needs to lighten up a little and at the same time like Clado Shou stated above "publicly praise and privately punish".


Compyfox, everyone acknowledges what you've done so far and to me i understand that fully. i love what you do and how good your remixing sounds. you're an asset to Chrono Symphony. not only that everyone in the entire thread respects you also.

[Jillian Aversa]

Good to finally hear Claado's take on all this. I made that post largely in *his* defense, not realizing he was cool with Compyfox's temporary power shift/trip. I can see how my post may have sounded over-the-top to those who were aware of that.
(But I think a lot of us weren't aware, Claado, and that's why there has been so much talk about it outside the thread.)

At the same time, Darkesword himself acknowledged that Compy was doing a moderator's job, so it's not like my "accusation of such" was unfounded. And my post was a cumulative response to his attitude. It just so happened that the side-tracking comment was what ultimately pushed me over the edge, since I was one of the people it was directed towards.

I'm sorry, Comp, if I really offended you. We all know who you are and what you're doing for the project, so you don't need to try so hard. We'd be *more* grateful if you simply focused on your work right now, without the attitude. Things will get done faster that way, and you'll piss a lot fewer people off, you know? You volunteered for this project; there's no excuse for labeling our music as "shit." Why in God's name did you sign up, if that's what you think?

All it shows us is that you care more about the attention you'll get from "helping out" than the project itself. It's not a crime to want a little recognition, but wouldn't you like that recognition to be positive...? If so, try treating us with some respect, for goodness' sake.

[Claado Shou]

Compyfox acted in self-defense, albeit much harsher than he should have.

And yes, I agree with pixie that I probably didn't announce the "power shift" as prominently as I should have. But as per my post a few pages ago, http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45588&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1257 (top post), I figured it was clear that I wasn't playing as large a role anymore.

As for the specifications of what "powers" Compyfox has, his job is still audio engineer. I still make all the choices. I just think that considering his continued presence in the thread, and my sparse presence here, his decisions as far as appropriate conversation are slightly more up-to-snuff than mine. I might very well have ended up asking for the conversation to stop - who knows. But now that the boundaries are laid, and we only have a very very short time left until release, I think it's best we drop the subject. Bad choice on my part to sort of keep you all in the dark, but it's all whatever.

I'm going to edit/delete some of the posts relating to this topic, if you all don't mind. Just to maintain a false sense of security in-house, you know. Like all the great leaders do. :)

~.C.S.~

[Aurora]

/enters conversation

Compyfox acted in self-defense, albeit much harsher than he should have.

And yes, I agree with pixie that I probably didn't announce the "power shift" as prominently as I should have. But as per my post a few pages ago, http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45588&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1257 (top post), I figured it was clear that I wasn't playing as large a role anymore.

As for the specifications of what "powers" Compyfox has, ...

~.C.S.~



^^ last word


/runs away

[Zeality]

The music isn't "shit." The unmastered raws are in terms of mastering quality. Get your terms correct.

[TrueLugia121]

hmph. as if that's ever gonna work Zeality

[Compyfox]

This wasn't the first time you stepped outside your role of "audio engineer," Compy.

Ah the drama...

[TrueLugia121]

you know it's all true Compyfox. what's drama is that you just don't get any of it.

[Zeality]

Lugia: THE CS TROLL

[KyleJCrb]

Lugia: THE CS TROLL

Put him in the credits!

[TrueLugia121]

trust me on this one. Compyfox know's what all of us said about him is all true. he just wants to get away with what he likes doing best which isn't fair on the people working on the project.

[Rexy]

That's still trolling. He's actually doing a capable job of making the project sound well mastered in the run-down to its release. We as people just want to put all that behind us as the project unveiling comes over.

Now Lugia, please make like Star Salzman and "Shut the Fuck Up" :?

[Liontamer]

and how's this being dishonest to you uh?
i am saying everything right.
If your sole purpose for posting in this project thread is to exacerbate any drama, your trolling posts will continue to be deleted.

[DarkeSword]

and how's this being dishonest to you uh?
i am saying everything right.
If your sole purpose for posting in this project thread is to exacerbate any drama, your trolling posts will continue to be deleted.

I've already sent a warning to Lugia; any further posts by him will warrant an account suspension.

[bladiator]

That's still trolling. He's actually doing a capable job of making the project sound well mastered in the run-down to its release. We as people just want to put all that behind us as the project unveiling comes over.

Now Lugia, please make like Star Salzman and "Shut the Fuck Up" :?

8O Rexy, your innocence! *cry* In other news, I think thread waded through a bunch of poo, and has finally made it to the other side in good standing. Nice work. :)

[Compyfox]

Why do I even try to defend myself if everything what I say is declared as "bad" or "inconvenient" or "pure insulting"?

It's always the bad "Compyfox", but not the others... pointing fingers is so easy.

[sephfire]

This issue didn't deserve two pages ... :(

[Zeality]

It'd be neat to reach page 100 before this gets locked as history.

[ellywu2]

I know i've been a lot of hassle, and i dont really want to get involved in this, but bravo to compyfox.
I know little to nothing about mastering, and well internet>me, but he's giving up his time to make my songs sound better than ever. Also, thankyou to all of you for making this project such a good one.

[Compyfox]

A quick hookup on the status in terms of "engineering":

IN-DEPTH ENGINEERING:
- Schala and the Queen 80%
- To Far Away Times 90%
- Manifest Destiny 60% (it takes time, due to the reproduction)

I guess I'll simply try to mix up "In Search of the Light" with careful engineering rather than reproducing it. Will be a last minute "choice"


MASTERING:
5% (preparations)


Kinda missing:
Unknown/Tyler Heath. He promised me to send me his files a couple of days ago. I already asked over at the Soundtempest channel what's up, but if anybody see's him, please remind him to get back to me. I won't even bite. I just wanna know what's up...



SIDENOTE:
I try to work as fast as I can, but due to "Murphy's Law" in terms of certain issues (Studio Hardware mostly) and health issues (piercing headaches) I can't focus on the material 24/7. I still try to reach for a mid october release, chances are that it's minimal delayed again (sorry). uhm... yeah.


Back to work... after a small break.

[Jillian Aversa]

^ OMG, it's ellywu! :D

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

It'd be neat to reach page 100 before this gets locked as history.

You can give it a cool nickanme that's not really shorter too: The Hundred Page Project

[OmegaDonut]

I just talked to a friend of a friend of mine, and he says he'd be willing to host a mirror. I don't know the exact numbers, but I know he's got tons and tons of bandwidth that's hosting not much more than a few webpages and a small forum.

So Claado, you can put that down on the list of mirrors for Chrono Symphonic. I'll PM you the details as soon as I get a hold of them.

[Claado Shou]

I'll put you down, OmegaDonut, as a mirror(er) for now, and just send me the details later so I know who to send the file links to when the time comes. Thanks.

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

Too quiet. What's going on?

[Dybbek]

The calm before the storm -er- release?

[Duckman]

well, I have cds, cd cases, paper, and ink all ready for when this album IS finally released, so i can enjoy another one of the finest albums ever made. Just listening from the 2 tracks on the webpage, i know that all the other songs are just gonna blow me away with there awesomeness. (I love orchestrial music, spent 7 years in school orchestra) So I know i'm gonna love it!! :D And one day i hope to be in the ranks with everyone else here, and to one day put a remix of my own on one of these awesome projects that never fail to amaze me. I hope to be friends with all of yall in time. This is one of the best places i have found on the internet. I'll be watching for the release of the album. See you all later.

[Claado Shou]

Well, not much to discuss, really. It's just a waiting game ATM, and we're all just sitting on our hands, patient and expectant of the events to come. It'll be grand, I guarantee.

BTW, another mirrorer has volunteered, so now we're at 8. Getting better!

~.C.S.~

[sephfire]

As long as we're all sharing our anticipation, I can't wait to hear everything when Compy's finished with it. It's always a treat to hear your arrangement mastered by someone who knows what he's doing. Looking forward to it. :D

[DarkeSword]

GO COMPYFOX GO!!!
OSU!! TATAKAE!! OUENDAN!! (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/aosj/)

[Navi]

I can mirror now, hopefully. :D

[Claado Shou]

Good segue (:?) DarkeSword.

Good news, myth. Oh, and nice sig quote. :)

~.C.S.~

[Dahlia]

and health issues (piercing headaches)

I don't know anything about your physiology or state of health, but I think it could very well be "eye headaches". I get them all the time because I always forget to put in my contacts and I spend hours staring at Sibelius. Not good. >.>

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

Where's all the anniversary celebration?

[Zeality]

I"LL DANCE A JIG 4 U

[Claado Shou]

I was really just making a point of the fact, not expecting a birthday cake or anything. I think all the excitement is being stored up for the release, anyway, so...no biggie.

But damn, does a 1-year anniversary make me feel old.

~.C.S.~

[Blake]

Damn, has it really been that long since the start? :)

[Red Omen]

Kinda missing:
Unknown/Tyler Heath. He promised me to send me his files a couple of days ago. I already asked over at the Soundtempest channel what's up, but if anybody see's him, please remind him to get back to me. I won't even bite. I just wanna know what's up...

My dad just gave him a tuba lesson on Friday. It might be kind of weird to call him and ask about this, though.

[Compyfox]

I just want his master files, he got an eMail already a couple of days ago.

[Navi]

Claado, just tell me when and send me the files when you want them up, and i'll send you links

[Red Omen]

I just want his master files, he got an eMail already a couple of days ago.

Okay, as long as you're in contact with him.

[Escushion]

This is really, really late, and isn't really important since this is just the music, not the story, but I think as far as pacing is concerned, a wiser decision for the script of the movie would've been to leave in an initial trip through time rather than jumping straight into the saving the future mode, and instead cutting the Masamune story (or putting some variation of the Masamune bit at the start if it was considered absolutely necessary.)

It's just a deal of pacing and characterization is all; just wanted to mention it since it was on my mind after looking over things :p. I can't wait to hear the full soundtrack.

[Spoom]

Continuing the off-topicness, I think Chrono Trigger: The Movie could be done in two or three parts, which would avoid having to cut a lot of the story out and would instead allow for expansion of character development, etc.

Great script nonetheless though. I'm almost entirely sure this project will the best of the ones thusfar.

[Compyfox]

Akira Toriyama should have really made an OAV (9 EPs or so) out of it. The only thing on it though... Chrono would talk now. ;)

[sephfire]

Any new developments in the last week or so? New mirrors, mastering progress, artwork, etc? There's a shortage of buzz. :)

[Compyfox]

Still working on it. Unfortunately I have zero to no time this WE (private errants!). But I make great progress.

Sorry that I take so long. :(

[sephfire]

Hey, no apology necessary. Personal life comes first. :wink: I was just curious if anything new had happened outside of the thread.

[Claado Shou]

Nope. Nothing, really. I've been busy with school and other Site Projects, and now I'm starting on a personal project of mine. Until I get the files from Compyfox, we're pretty much on hold. I, too, am sorry about the delay, but we've already waited over a year...it can certainly wait a little longer.

~.C.S.~

[sephfire]

Nope. Nothing, really. I've been busy with school and other Site Projects, and now I'm starting on a personal project of mine. Until I get the files from Compyfox, we're pretty much on hold. I, too, am sorry about the delay, but we've already waited over a year...it can certainly wait a little longer.

~.C.S.~

Indeed it can. Slow and steady wins the race.

[Zarggg]

Akira Toriyama should have really made an OAV (9 EPs or so) out of it. The only thing on it though... Chrono would talk now. ;)

Not necessarily. Macha from .hack//SIGN didn't speak audibly. They could presumably do the same for Chrono. Of course, it would be interesting to have Masako Nozawa as seiyuu. ;)

[Compyfox]

As long as it's "in the old style", everything else doesn't matter. ;)

[Duckman]

Hey everyone, just came to check out the status of the album. I'm just so eager to get it and listen to it...

[Zeality]

HELLO

[Linearity]

HELLO
:)

Keep rockin' you guys, I'm excited that you're spending so much time making it awesome.

[Lemunde]

Wow, I haven't posted in these forums in ages. I just remembered I had an account here. Anyway I clicked on a link in someones sig and just found this. Hope it gets done soon. I was impressed with the Doom album that came out a few weeks ago and I like the idea of these conglomerations of good music. I'll be keeping an eye on this.

[Claado Shou]

Yeah...not much else to say, really...stay tuned for anything else, but ATM, we're all sitting around. Compy is keeping me updated, and we're definitely making progress. An October release date may ALSO have to be forthwith abandoned (in fact, almost assuredly) so I apologize to all who are waiting to listen and enjoy the project. However...what else can you do but know it'll be amazing?

Thanks, all, for continuing to post your enthusiasm(s). None of your dedication will be in vain.

~.C.S.~

[RoeTaKa]

Wow I would've thought it would've been done by now, heh I haven't been keeping track. But yeah the patient man always gets a nice spanking and a good rogering so I'll wait for my horny delight to be released! Keep it up Compy, the suspense is orgasmic! Yeah, just thought I'd say something.

[Bongo Bill]

I have also agreed to mirror the Kirby Super Star project, so once that launches I won't be able to offer as much bandwidth, but I'll still host the files if need be.

[The Dual Dragons]

Im extremely excited to see what Compyfox manage to do with the mastering on this project!..
I never heard anything about him until this project, so I have no idea of what he will come forth with.. Can't wait.. :D

[SirRus]

I am like so pumped right now. Everyone in this project freaking rules.

<3,
Ravi

[Claado Shou]

100 pages, aye. What semi-off-topic-but-really-connected-to-Chrono-Trigger-or-Chrono-Symphonic-in-some-third-cousin-twice-removed-style-sense conversation should we start now?

[Patrick Burns]

Not that this hasn't been discussed, but with the immediate purpose in mind:

I have to to say, I think Nobuo's compositions are somewhat underappreciated. Before I realized who wrote which songs, I named Silent Light and Tyrann Castle my two favorite songs of the game (both by Nobuo). As far as I can tell, neither of those were selected for the project, but I don't blame y'all. They aren't very popular.

[KyleJCrb]

100 pages, aye. What semi-off-topic-but-really-connected-to-Chrono-Trigger-or-Chrono-Symphonic-in-some-third-cousin-twice-removed-style-sense conversation should we start now?

OMG SKWARE SHUD HURRY AND MAEK KRONO BRAKE

Krono Brakes: For Maximum Stopping Power!

[The Dual Dragons]

Not that this hasn't been discussed, but with the immediate purpose in mind:

I have to to say, I think Nobuo's compositions are somewhat underappreciated. Before I realized who wrote which songs, I named Silent Light and Tyrann Castle my two favorite songs of the game (both by Nobuo). As far as I can tell, neither of those were selected for the project, but I don't blame y'all. They aren't very popular.

Well, I wouldn't call it unappreciated..
Although those tunes are indeed good ones, Tyrano Castle has some silimar parts and moods as Kuja's Themes in FF IX.. Its not DEADLY alike on every level though, just similarities, the start is especially alike :D

[Arek the Absolute]

100 pages, aye. What semi-off-topic-but-really-connected-to-Chrono-Trigger-or-Chrono-Symphonic-in-some-third-cousin-twice-removed-style-sense conversation should we start now?

OMG SKWARE SHUD HURRY AND MAEK KRONO BRAKE

Krono Brakes: For Maximum Stopping Power!
HUR
...noone guest posts in my thread :cry:
I am jelous *sp*

[KyleJCrb]

100 pages, aye. What semi-off-topic-but-really-connected-to-Chrono-Trigger-or-Chrono-Symphonic-in-some-third-cousin-twice-removed-style-sense conversation should we start now?

OMG SKWARE SHUD HURRY AND MAEK KRONO BRAKE

Krono Brakes: For Maximum Stopping Power!
HUR
...noone guest posts in my thread :cry:
I am jelous *sp*

I've been posting in this thread on a regular basis for awhile!

And one would think you'd have looked up the spelling of "jealous" by now. :P

[Arek the Absolute]

100 pages, aye. What semi-off-topic-but-really-connected-to-Chrono-Trigger-or-Chrono-Symphonic-in-some-third-cousin-twice-removed-style-sense conversation should we start now?

OMG SKWARE SHUD HURRY AND MAEK KRONO BRAKE

Krono Brakes: For Maximum Stopping Power!
HUR
...noone guest posts in my thread :cry:
I am jelous *sp*

I've been posting in this thread on a regular basis for awhile!

And one would think you'd have looked up the spelling of "jealous" by now. :P

I am jealous of your ability to spell jealous....punk :)

[Red Omen]

Now that I've started playing through CT again, I've started to anticipate this project more and more.

DAMMIT COMPY STOP MAKING ME ANTICIPATE

[Duckman]

Now that I've started playing through CT again, I've started to anticipate this project more and more.

DAMMIT COMPY STOP MAKING ME ANTICIPATE
Every day i come check this thread out in hopes of it saying "THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED!!!" but..alas...no luck yet.. Still waiting though!

[The Dual Dragons]

Now that I've started playing through CT again, I've started to anticipate this project more and more.

DAMMIT COMPY STOP MAKING ME ANTICIPATE
Every day i come check this thread out in hopes of it saying "THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED!!!" but..alas...no luck yet.. Still waiting though!

Same here..:D

[mikelee]

I know I'll be wrong, but I have a feeling that the project will be released as the first post on page #100.

Honestly though, I've known about this project for a while; I didn't care about it before I knew it existed, and it's free, so I really don't mind waiting however much longer is necessary. That said, I have to say, good job to everyone on the team, and especially Compyfox for weathering everything that's being said at this point.

Still...can't wait!

[Compyfox]

Patience my younglings... do more than hurry up, I can't. ;)

[Aurora Firestorm]

Speaking as a person who knows little about remixing, what exactly is "mastering"? From what I've read, it's making the songs sound more clean/professional/what have you, but what exactly is the process like? What programs do you use? That sort of thing. Isn't that what the songs are going through right now?

[Compyfox]

Mastering in short is really "brushing up the sound and put it into it's final medium". We scratched that over at Remixing a couple of times so the search function might be your help.

How I do this?
The right tools with fresh ears for finding flaws and a certain sound in my head are the only weapons I use.

[Claado Shou]

Yeah, you pretty much have the idea of it. Basically, you take a song and make it sound cleaner, by adjusting various stereo fields and whatnot/whathaveyou. I, also, have not experience with the details, but Compy can probably give you a better idea of what's going on.

As for the "it'll be released post 1 of page 100" idea you had mikelee, if we HAPPEN to have 100 pages when the project gets released, then that would be some serious foreshadowing. But I have no idea when it'll actually be released (except to say that it'll be relatively soon), so don't place any deadlines down. I will, however, give you at least a few days' notice as to the official release (day/time EST), ensuring everything is in place. And yes, it will be advertised elsewhere, so don't fret about missing the release. You'll be WEEEEEEELL aware of the exact time it takes place, I assure you.

~.C.S.~

[KyleJCrb]

You'll be WEEEEEEELL aware of the exact time it takes place, I assure you.

Unless you lose the internet, or worse, die between now and then. :P

[Claado Shou]

You'll be WEEEEEEELL aware of the exact time it takes place, I assure you.

Unless you lose the internet, or worse, die between now and then. :P

I will not respond to threats of violence. My project gets released first, fated foe...you must wait your turn to claim world domination.

~.C.S.~

[Bongo Bill]

I will not respond to threats of violence.

This is a pretty nice project you got here... it would be a shame if anything happened to it....

[KyleJCrb]

You'll be WEEEEEEELL aware of the exact time it takes place, I assure you.

Unless you lose the internet, or worse, die between now and then. :P

I will not respond to threats of violence. My project gets released first, fated foe...you must wait your turn to claim world domination.

~.C.S.~

I meant "you" as in the people you were talking to. Not YOU personally. :P

[Brentfire]

Piejacked wrote:
Chrono Trigger sux and your script is worse than
shit. Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can
do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

"Where am i... better yet when am i"
rotfl when am i

CT tributes are for nostalgic losers go to the bar
and get a life.

I feel smart.


What?
CT sucks? what the hell are you talking about?
CT is one of the best RPG's ever made!
and the music is just freaking awesome.

[I.Medley]

Piejacked wrote:
Chrono Trigger sux and your script is worse than
shit. Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can
do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

"Where am i... better yet when am i"
rotfl when am i

CT tributes are for nostalgic losers go to the bar
and get a life.

I feel smart.


What?
CT sucks? what the hell are you talking about?
CT is one of the best RPG's ever made!
and the music is just freaking awesome.

You should not take his post at face value. He is merely attempting a crude form of satire. Besides, it's already lost in the pages and pages of this thread. Any response to his post would be in vain.

[Claado Shou]

Don't know why they cut the Singing Mountain part from the game, but the song lives on - Track 07, Revelation of Fire, is based on the Kingdom Trial/Singing Mountain tracks. So no worries.

~.C.S.~

Which reminds me...might be a good idea to find out the source tunes from each individual song. Would that be a wise decision?

[Compyfox]

I know for sure that most of the Stoneage parts were discarted for Chrono symphonic, then the title melodies of Ayla, Robo, Gato (Gonzales), Singing Mountain, The Fair of Stars (the new fair), some of the battle tracks (however Magus and Lavos are present, don't sweat!), a couple of tracks out of AD2300 (Brother Jimmy and his racetrack, the sewer track, depressing overworld music, etc) and one of my favourites: Spekkio.

But yeah... an update in terms of "source tunes" would be nice also for possible OCR releases. Then again (to do some more spoilers) a lot of tracks are using a mix out of different tunes. "Schala and the Queen" for example uses the Queen Zeal's Theme and a transition to Magus' Theme (to those who played Chrono Trigger, you know why! hehe). Reuben Kee uses a part of "To good Friends" in his mix. Etc.


I guarantee you that you will have an experience as if you'd walk through a story with your mind. Only that the story isn't told by a narrator, but by the music itself. Those who played Chrono Trigger will fall back into memories, and those who didn't play it yet will certainly want to play it after listening to it.


I keep you updated. ;)

[VolrathBlacksteele]

On "Singing Mountain," I always imagined that song would be great for a somber scene after (OMG SPOILERS ALERT DONT READ IF U HAVENT PLAYED TEH GAME LOL) Crono dies. It has such a melancholy tone to it, I can picture Marle standing on a cliff dealing with her grief. Anyway, just a random thought. Seriously looking forward to the day when Chrono Symphonic is done. Keep up the good work.

[Claado Shou]

VolrathBlacksteele, Track 07 has Singing Mountain in it immediately after the 2300 A.D. video is shown of the world being destroyed by Lavos. Does that qualify as a melancholy scene, perchance?

Wonderful, all the Chrono discussion has been clipped by some vengeful ass.

Actually, it was Liontamer, and I agree with his decision. It was really getting a little out of hand. I probably should've done it myself sooner, and unfortunately I didn't. However, what's done is done, so let's just try and keep the conversation to something ACTUALLY Chrono Symphonic related.

I mean, come on. Posting writeups of CT/CC/RD connections is fine and all in good fun, but it's a bit unnecessary.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Let's start with something else to get a bit more curious about the feedback so far.

I know a lot of you heard the demos that were posted earlier. Now Chrono Symphonic will be released "soon". What do you think that it'd sound like, what hopes to you have, what fears, what do you expect in general - and what do you want to see/hear compared to other projects from OCR/VGMix/OUS/etc?

I'm a bit curious here.

[Claado Shou]

Shit, that whole Claado + Kyle nexus should be chopped as well, I hardly see how that's relevant to anything.

Thing is, that's like four posts long. The other stuff took up almost 3 pages, so that's why the so-called "drastic" action was taken, I suppose. Four posts won't do any damage.

As for Compy's question, my main concerns are: every song should have comparable amounts of reverb, and be listenable at the same volume as all the others (a feat none of the other projects has yet accomplished). Anything else, in all honesty, would just be toppings. Unless, of course, someone else can come up with another idea...

~.C.S.~

[Aurora Firestorm]

Well, I saw the FreeWebs site that had the in-progress versions of about half the Symphonic songs. The site that was up before the current one, I mean. My hope is that with all the time that has been taken to improve and tweak and shiny up the songs, they'll be even better than I saw on the FreeWebs site. I know that the "To Far Away Times" demo has vocals, which is a drastic change from the old version on FreeWebs, but the "Inciting Incident" doesn't sound different to me, which worried me a little. Even if it sounds ten times better to a skilled remixer, if it doesn't sound different to Joe/Jane Average Music Listener after all this time, then I don't think it's achieved its goal. Unless the Incident demo isn't all remastered and shiny, which it may not be. Or, maybe it's just that I need to listen to the two side-by-side and really listen.

What I want to hear? Epic movie-style music, which is what this is aiming for, and what I think I'll hear. I'm a little weary of the trance and jazz and such that is creeping into game remixes, so I'm glad to see that this music is going back to the orchestral epic stuff and making them movie-like, rather than modern-band-like (in terms of style, not instrumentation. Everyone loves a good electric guitar and synths and such when they fit.).

I also hope to hear a version of Magus' Theme that manages to keep its melody intact and prominent enough to hear. Somehow so many remixes manage to shred or drown out that melody, even though I know there are some that don't. I'm hoping for Lucca's Theme in there somewhere, as well as Queen Zeal's creepy-mysterious theme, though I'm not sure if they'll be there.

Despite all my wonderings and worries and hopes, I'm sure that whatever you guys give to us will rock the world several times over. It's hard to tell expectations; I feel like I'm criticizing you or something by telling you what I want, not what you guys have worked hard to create.

...So will it be out before December? Maybe?

[Compyfox]

Lucca, Magus and Zeal are on the OST. To revive some infos that're already known (and shuffled over the pages):

2 CDs, CD1 is Fire and Light, CD2 is Shadow and Ice

While the first CD focuses mainly on our heroes and the "general timetravel", the second CD will mainly focus on "The Dark Ages" and the gruesome battles our heroes will face. And CD2 starts off with "Manifest Destiny", a remix of "Zeal's Theme".


And yeah, it'll be released "before" December.

[Blake]

And yeah, it'll be released "before" December.




YESSS

[DarkeSword]

See, you totally missed the point. To my understanding it's now a crime to talk about the game the project was derived from.

Not a crime, just irrelevant. The thread is not about the game, but about the project. You want a thread about the game, make a thread in GD.

[Zarggg]

And yeah, it'll be released "before" December.

I'm assuming this means 11:59 PM on November 30th. :p

[micpp]

And yeah, it'll be released "before" December.

I'm assuming this means 11:59 PM on November 30th. :p

The question is: in what timezone?

[Aurora Firestorm]

Manifest Destiny is the Zeal Overworld theme, it seems. I meant the creepy Zeal music you hear when something evil is up. Now that was just awesome. :)

[Compyfox]

THen you will surely love most of CD2... especially "Schala and the Queen", though I'm still not happy with the reverb of the vocals (finetuning... yay!!!).


"Manifest Destiny" is a remix of the SPC Tune "Corridors of Time", "Schala and the Queen" is a mix out of "Schala's theme" shuffled a bit with "Zeal's Palace" and "Magus' Theme". I can be mistaken on "Zeal's Palace" - after listening through the SPC's I didn't find all sources at once. Pixie and EllyWu know it better for sure. But trust me, it's haunting and agressive at the same time.

Whoops... even more spoilers... heh, sorry. :p

I'm assuming this means 11:59 PM on November 30th. :p

I'm not a member of Steinberg who say "will be released in August" (as they did with SX3.1) and then they release it at the very last day with tons of bugs. ;)

Ah yeah, if it goes by me, it'd be GMT+1. That means: EST is like 9h behind my timezone. If we release it 11:59PM in central europe, it'd be 2:59PM EST. But if we release it at 11:59 PM EST, it's 8:59 AM GMT+1. Enough confused?


To be honest, that's a thing to decide for Claado and DJP when it comes out. I provide the files, a couple of days later it's on oCR, the project page is updated and at least 3 seeders are providing the files.

[StarZander]

Ah yeah, if it goes by me, it'd be GMT+1. That means: EST is like 9h behind my timezone. If we release it 11:59PM in central europe, it'd be 2:59PM EST. But if we release it at 11:59 PM EST, it's 8:59 AM GMT+1. Enough confused?

Awesome, that's my timezone aswell. Finally a good use for it.

[Liontamer]

Thing is, that's like four posts long. The other stuf took up almost 3 pages, so that's why the so-called "drastic" action was taken, I suppose. Four posts won't do any damage.

As for Compy's question, my main concerns are: every song should have comparable amounts of reverb, and be listenable at the same volume as all the others (a feat none of the other projects has yet accomplished). Anything else, in all honesty, would just be toppings. Unless, of course, someone else can come up with another idea...

~.C.S.~


See, you totally missed the point. To my understanding it's now a crime to talk about the game the project was derived from. Deleted posts because apparently they were irrelevant. Same could be said for a quite a few other posts in this thread. But i'm not going to touch base on this topic no longer. Nazi modding is nazi modding, i can't do anything about that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law (DS knows) :lol:

Wonder when the project will officially be out though? Christmas wouldn't be a bad date, and many would be around to get it and enjoy it during the holiday! Then Andrew gets loads of PayPal donations to either fund the actual movie or line his pockets.

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

If they intend on releasing it before Christmas, shadddduuuup!

[Claado Shou]

Mayhaps this project could be a way of giving thanks back to the community?

Wink wink.

~.C.S.~

P.S. That's still a maybe, but a VERY probable maybe.

[Compyfox]

Christmas... hm... you just gave me "THE IDEA". XD

*just kidding - working on it as fast as I can*

[KyleJCrb]

Christmas... hm... you just gave me "THE IDEA". XD

VACATION IN CANCUN!

But yes, despite my unfamiliarity with the game, I'm quite familiar with the music (being as absorbed as I am in the VG arrangement community tends to do that to you :P), and I'm looking forward to hearing my favorite tracks arranged for this project. Hope it's good! ;)

[Jillian Aversa]

Mayhaps this project could be a way of giving thanks back to the community?

Wink wink.

~.C.S.~

P.S. That's still a maybe, but a VERY probable maybe.
Oooooh, that's a great idea. I hope it works out. ^_^

[ellywu2]

As far as i can remember Schala and the Queen is a mixture of the day the world revived, Schala's theme, a slight bit of Zeal, Magus's theme and a little bit of Lavos's final battle music. All with top notch singing over it :)

[Compyfox]

Scary for sure, if I get the thing with the reverb right *yarr!!!*

Back to work for me, keep you updated.

[DDRage]

who's remixing The Trial? I just can't wait to hear that one :lol: :lol: :P :P

[Claado Shou]

Me, actually. In Track 07.

Seems like I've said this a couple times by now...

~.C.S.~

[Duckman]

Any update on the completion percentage? I wanna know how far yall are along till release

[Compyfox]

Can't as I work on like 10 things atm. I guess you have to wait till it's done now, or till the weekend if I can say more.

Sorry.

[Bongo Bill]

And yeah, it'll be released "before" December.

I'm assuming this means 11:59 PM on November 30th. :p

The question is: in what timezone?

Mars.

[Zarggg]

... GMT+1 ...

Awesome, that's my timezone aswell. Finally a good use for it.

Isn't that also the timezone used for Swatch Beats?

[Claado Shou]

And yeah, it'll be released "before" December.

I'm assuming this means 11:59 PM on November 30th. :p

The question is: in what timezone?

Mars.

Chrono Symphonic is from Venus, The Dark Side of Phobos is from Mars. Don't you know anything? :)

Actually, as for timezone, I'm GMT-5 (East Coast), so when I announce a time for a release, that'd be it. It sucks that StarZander is six timezones away from me (might be a bit of a hassle, juggling schedules for the release) but it'll all work out, I'm sure.

~.C.S.~

[Terial]

AGH! I've just suddenly become extremly anxious about this project, lol. Compyfox... it's the weekend ya know, could we possibly have a status report? lol
*holds out cookie* come on... you know you want it! come on! come on!

[KyleJCrb]

Status report: Work continues on mastering Chrono Symphonic. It will be released when it's ready.

Good enough for you? :P

[Arek the Absolute]

Status report: Work continues on mastering Chrono Symphonic. It will be released when it's ready.

Good enough for you? :P

What you doin in here nig. Get back to your project. Miss lea told me your slacking. Leaving her to do all the work eh?

[Aurora Firestorm]

Status report: Work continues on mastering Chrono Symphonic. It will be released when it's ready.

It'd be at least nice to know if Claado Shou's "giving thanks" idea is still in range and planned for. If it's out the window, I'll just sit around and wait; otherwise, that idea invites so much anticipation.

[Bongo Bill]

It'll be here by Christmas? No way?




Anyway. Compy. The following is a transparent effort to entice you to post. Precisely how many tracks have you mastered so far?

[Compyfox]

No matter how often you ask and bug me, it urges me to stay even more quiet.

Come on folks. It's not the end of the world if you still have to wait. I have a private live too and I'm not a borg connected to the collective called "OCRemix". ;)

It will come out, this month (aka November). That's all I can say atm.



I should start a paypal account and ask for a hollar for every question I get regarding "is the mastering done yet"... I'd be rich... or could at least buy a new instrument.

[Blake]

It will come out, this month (aka November). That's all I can say atm.






YES. That's all i wanted to hear. :) Thank you Compy. I might just donate to your PayPal but I don't have a job. Sorry :(

[PriZm]

mastering sucks :wink:

[extrakun]

This month is already good enough. The probability of it coming out tomorrow is 13/30, which is about 50%!! That's good, isn't it? :D

[Compyfox]

This month is already good enough. The probability of it coming out tomorrow is 13/30, which is about 50%!! That's good, isn't it? :D

No, not this week either.

[Terial]

WOOOOO! THIS MONTH! That's great. I really cannot wait! keep up the good work compyfox!!

[Compyfox]

I at least try. If it's getting december, blame my private life outside the internet. It won't be X-Mas though.

And now (please) stop whining and nagging me of when I'm done. kthnx.

[Zeality]

Looks like the site is indeed 404'd.

[SirRus]

This month is already good enough. The probability of it coming out tomorrow is 13/30, which is about 50%!! That's good, isn't it? :D

The probability would have been 1/13 = 7.7% if you consider 13 days left starting tomorrow...

but there are 14 days left in November starting tomorrow so the chance is actually 1/14 = 7.1%

[Claado Shou]

Huh. Let me ask StarZander about the site. I'll get back to y'all.

~.C.S.~

[Bongo Bill]

This month? Hooray!

[Duckman]

please just sometime soon....i'm very so wanting to listen to the album

[Lemunde]

Is it out yet?
...
...
...How 'bout now?
...
...
...How 'bout now?

[StarZander]

My webhosting account has for some reason been deleted, and I have not idea why. This is all a big mystery to me, and I'm investigating it as we speak. I have all the files backed up, so don't worry about that. As soon as I get my account back, the site will come back aswell.

[Zeality]

Is FM off the project? The site hasn't been restored at the moment, so I'm not sure if he changed his name to Zas or dropped it entirely.

[KyleJCrb]

Is it out yet?
...
...
...How 'bout now?
...
...
...How 'bout now?

I think I speak for Claado and Compy when I say:

SHUT UP.





;)

[PLBenjaminZ]

This month is already good enough. The probability of it coming out tomorrow is 13/30, which is about 50%!! That's good, isn't it? :D

The probability would have been 1/13 = 7.7% if you consider 13 days left starting tomorrow...

but there are 14 days left in November starting tomorrow so the chance is actually 1/14 = 7.1%

that's almost like saying there's 45 days until the New years, therefore the probability of it being New Year's tomorrow is 1/45 = 2.2%... good thing everyone knows New Year's is definitely tomorrow...

ps: that's my initials
pps: this is taking long, I know Compyfox has a life outside of OCRemix but damn... it was SUPPOSED to be out last September... oh well, excuse my whining I'm dumb
ppps: hi

[Claado Shou]

FM changed his name to Zas, and BliziHiZake began using his real name instead, just to kill two birds with one stone. And yeah, it was planned for September, but it'll be out soon enough, so let's just wait a liiiiittle bit longer.

S'okay?

~.C.S.~

[StarZander]

Well, I've talked to the guy who runs my now former webhosting server, and my account had been deleted over a minor detail in the rules, and I can't get it back. I will have to find a completely new server to upload everything. I'd like to buy a server, but I can't afford that just yet.
When I find a new one, I will upload everything again. That's all for now.

[Bongo Bill]

I've got my bandwidth all set up, got plenty of webspace and took down everything else (I didn't use it for anything but hosting files anyway) so I can dedicate all 100GB/month to hosting this. I AM READY

[StarZander]

Okay, I have a new adress for the website, so if you want to look at it in all its glory, then here it is:

http://xthost.info/starzander/Chrono/

[Claado Shou]

Alright, nice. The pictures aren't loading on the Remixes page, but that can be fixed later. Good stuff.

Now we need to get all the other site addies forwarded to this page instead of the old one...expect that all done soon, I suppose. Excellent, excellent...

~.C.S.~

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

A toast to what will probably one of the best projects on OCR, the good people working on it, and Claado Shou who managed to put it all together.

You have no idea how much this helps ease the stress during college application time.

[Zeality]

Okay. If you are a remixer, and did not receive some sort of correspondence from me today or tomorrow, let me know.

[Jillian Aversa]

Okay. If you are a remixer, and did not receive some sort of correspondence from me today or tomorrow, let me know.
(raises hand) I did not receive some sort of correspondence from you tomorrow. :wink: But I did receive one today...

[Compyfox]

Zeality: Remember to keep the old ones, too. ;)

[watkinzez]

Confused on how to pronounce online screen names? No more!

Three cheers for http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/watkinzez/playdoh_backpack350.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/watkinzez/shoe-A2.jpg on running the Chrono Symphonic project!

And a round of applause for http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/watkinzez/COMPUTER2.gifhttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/watkinzez/fox-1.jpg for the arduous job of mastering!

[DarkeSword]

Hey, you know what? Don't spam please. If you have something about the project to discuss, that's fine; other than that, you guys don't need to constantly post in this thread asking about a release. It will be released when it's released, end of story. If you have nothing important to say, don't bother posting.

[Claado Shou]

I must agree, DarkeSword. There will be a project release, and you guys asking for it, bothering us all about it, and doing other things of that nature will not help to make it come about any faster.

And also, a small announcement...it looks more and more like a Thanksgiving release will be unattainable, HOWEVER, mucho mucho goodies are still in store for that weekend, even if it does not include a release. Have no fear.

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

Christ, no one even asked when the release date was on this page. Way to fucking kill the joy and anticipation, guys.

[DarkeSword]

Christ, no one even asked when the release date was on this page. Way to fucking kill the joy and anticipation, guys.

Maybe not on this page, but even stuff like watkinzez's post isn't really contributing anything aside from thanking people, which has already been done. Don't get me wrong; I appreciate all the work done thusfar as well, but as it stands, stuff like that is just useless fluff.

Talking about hosting, website issues, and publicity stuff is fine because that pertains to the project. Posting fluff for the sake of increasing the pagecount isn't fine; it's spam.

[Jillian Aversa]

Aw, I liked watkinzez's post. :oops: But I see what you're getting at with the rest of the stuff.

[watkinzez]

Whoa, sorry. I didn't think it would be taken that way, just some harmless fun. Maybe just the feather that killed the camel..

[Rellik]

Hey Zeality, I haven't been corresponded (with)!

[Black Mage]

A quick question about the early days of the project.

Way back when the earliest site was put up, there were a few songs already posted for download (tracks #: 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 12, 13, 15, and 16, to be precise). Were these songs final versions or just WIPs?

(Edit: Hey, cool, page 100.)

[Compyfox]

Most of them where WIPs

[Sleepy Emp]

2Zeality: Got your email. I will respond as soon as possible.

[Zeality]

Okay, great. I think over half have responded now.

[Compyfox]

Er Zeality... you didn't insert the pic and didn't fix the typos either. Just FYI.

[Zeality]

Yeah, I've been revising an 8 page paper on Frankenstein all day. I have to add Emperor's stuff and fix some other stuff presently. Is there a good way to contact Russell Cox? His e-mail listed on this site didn't work.

Also, Zas, ifI don't catch you on AIM in time, someone on this computer managed to delete your responses to my questions. I'll have to ask you again.

[Compyfox]

Try a PM with Russel. He answered here on OCR a couple of pages ago as I was still looking for the mixers to get their stuff to me.

And I hope that Frankenstein thingy was a joke, heh.

[Terial]

just wanted to wish everyone working on the project and everyone anticipating it, a Happy Thanksgiving!

I'll be thankful if compyfox gets his ass busy on finishing the project. :wink:

no rush compy, make sure it's your best work! :D

[Zeality]

Trash Kanjika's interview?

Also, is anyone in contact with Eon_Blue? So far I need these people:

-Darkesword
-ellywu2
-PLBenjaminZ
-Rellik (i'm going to PM him)
-Russell Cox (his e-mail plain doesn't work)
-Unknown
-mv (probably won't get anything anyway)
-Eon_Blue

[Compyfox]

-Darkesword

Is a judge, is on AIM frequently, reads PMs

-ellywu2

Wrote just a couple of posts ago that he's glad to answer your Q's

-PLBenjaminZ

Try to PM him, I also see him in AIM from time to time

-Rellik (i'm going to PM him)

Rellik was last seen by me less than 48h ago in #ocremix

-Russell Cox (his e-mail plain doesn't work)

Did you try to PM him? I just talked to him via AIM and he was upset that I asked for the eMail adress in your name. Contact him via PM or the eMail on OCR!

-Unknown

Tyler Heath frequently roams around (which means every night) on Esper.net in the channel #soundtempest as Ty.

-mv (probably won't get anything anyway)

If you wrote him an eMail, give him a bit time.

-Eon_Blue

Last time I saw him was in #ocremix - haven't heard from him either for a long time.



no rush compy, make sure it's your best work!

Sure, no rush. But don't bitch at me if it's not done by Nov 30th (which might happen, unfortunately).

[ellywu2]

All done. Sorry it took a while, uni's been a bitch.

[Claado Shou]

Lots of PR going on, I see. Try and keep the chatter to a minimum, though, please...if you can't reach someone, that's fine, ask for help, but keep long replies in PM form. I'd appreciate it.

And for all you peeps out there waiting for a Thanksgiving treat, I have some tidbits I think I'll share with you...updates, if you will.

1) The project will probably be released early early next month, several weeks prior to Christmas
2) The website will hopefully undergo a bunch of small revisions, including artist commentary on each piece, updated on-site bios, external links, and general knowledge in one locale so you don't search the entire INTARNET driving yourself crazy
3) While I don't want to spoil anything for you, I will say this: Compy and I and a bunch of other outside sources are planning a super-special Christmas present for all the good (and bad :twisted:) boys and girls out there to feast on over this very special time of the year
4) And last but not least, the greatest love story ever told is finally in movie form...go see "Pride and Prejudice" and be AMAZED at it

That is all.

~.C.S.~

[Eon_Blue]

Yeah, I'm on it, I just moved into the new house. I'll try and wrap things up pretty soon.

[Spirit02]

Any word on the status of chrono symphonic?

Getting a 404.

[Compyfox]

Status: critical error


Homepage: Claado is working on it.

[Spirit02]

good stuff :)

[Claado Shou]

Just posting to say that the mastering is still being done (properly, BTW), with a lot of other stuff on the way as well. When it's all released and done, you'll be listening to this thing for a LOOOOONG time, I can guarantee you that. :)

~.C.S.~

[Blake]

Just posting to say that the mastering is still being done (properly, BTW), with a lot of other stuff on the way as well. When it's all released and done, you'll be listening to this thing for a LOOOOONG time, I can guarantee you that. :)

~.C.S.~\


Ooo. You have had sneak listens of the mastered versions and give them thumbs up?

[Aurora Firestorm]

*wags finger* Shame on you for tempting us with all this when we can't hear it or see it yet! ;)

[Ice Dragon]

Hey, patiently waiting vg music/remix lover here. While I was sitting here I thought I'd ask what 'mastering' is in the music business? I don't know all that much about what goes into making music, or remixes, so I thought I'd learn a little bit about it.

[Compyfox]

Well Bliz... somebody has to give an okay to everything. ;)

[Red Omen]

Hey, patiently waiting vg music/remix lover here. While I was sitting here I thought I'd ask what 'mastering' is in the music business? I don't know all that much about what goes into making music, or remixes, so I thought I'd learn a little bit about it.

I don't know too much myself, but in general it refers to editing the volume levels and sound quality for a smooth, balanced mix.

[Duckman]

well, so i dont keep my hopes up, I'm just allready expecting this album to come out in about 2 more years.