Chrono Trigger: Chrono Symphonic - History

[Claado Shou]

ATTENTION - Since the forums have switched to the new vBulletin format, this is now the only thread related to Chrono Symphonic. So post here about comments or feedback, if you have any.

That's right, people. And you thought it was all just a myth.

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Here is the official track listing for the project, including the special tracks. All songs are compositionally finished and all titles are official.

OFFICIAL SONGS:
Track 01: Inciting Incident - sephfire
Track 02: Morning Sunlight - SirRus/sephfire
Track 03: Blue Skies Over Guardia - DarkeSword
Track 04: To Lands Unknown - Sleepy Emp
Track 05: Darkness Dueling - LunarHeart
Track 06: Lucca's Arrival - Zas
Track 07: Revelation of Fire - Claado Shou
Track 08: Hymn of Valor - Red Omen
Track 09: Frog's Intervention - ellywu2
Track 10: Denadoro Climb - PLBenjaminZ
Track 11: The Masamune - ellywu2
Track 12: Darkest Omen - mv
Track 13: Confronting the Mystic - sephfire
Track 14: Door to the End of Time - Blake Perdue
Track 15: Manifest Destiny - SirRus
Track 16: Schala and the Queen - ellywu2/pixietricks
Track 17: The Third Guru - Claado Shou
Track 18: Beneath the Surface - Rellik
Track 19: The Rising - DarkeSword
Track 20: Crono's Dream - DarkeSword
Track 21: The Chrono Trigger- Russell Cox
Track 22: A Parting of Ways - Unknown
Track 23: The Last Stand - RoeTaka
Track 24: The New Beginning - Sleepy Emp
Track 25: To Far Away Times - Reuben Kee/pixietricks

MIRROR(ER)S:
herograw
KyleJCrb
Equinox
pixietricks
Bongo Bill
Tegeran
OmegaDonut('s friend)
aubrey
mythril nazgul
ThaSauce

AUDIO TECHNICIAN: Compyfox

SITE DESIGNER: StarZander

~.C.S.~

[DarkeSword]

Sounds good. :P

You didn't say I had to audition though.

Meh. I'll work on something. XD

[Claado Shou]

Well...if you don't feel like doing that particular song, and you have a previous piece of orchestral music that I can use in its place, as long as you provide a visual with it, that'll do.

[SILVERWOLF]

well, I really can't contribute, but I wish you the best of luck.

[Rellik]

Yeah, I wasn't aware of the details of the auditioning process before now either, but I'll try my best at something cool. No drumset? No guitar? Kind of killed my plan.

[zircon]

Ooh, I've always wanted to try orchestral film scoring. I'll get started!

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Sounds like a great idea, but I think you're making a mistake by excluding piano. Pianos are sometimes (I'll admit not frequently, but sometimes) used in movie soundtracks to spectacular effect.

[Chris McGee]

Very nice names on this. I'll sign up for audition.

[Claado Shou]

Sounds like a great idea, but I think you're making a mistake by excluding piano. Pianos are sometimes (I'll admit not frequently, but sometimes) used in movie soundtracks to spectacular effect.

Piano will not be excluded by any means. The ending theme, which will play during the credits, will have the main instrument be a piano. BECAUSE of its emotional effect, that would be an ideal instrument for that particular scene.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I wish I could participate. Unfortunately, I lack the gear/software/money required to convincingly synthesize an orchestra.

[Claado Shou]

I wish I could participate. Unfortunately, I lack the gear/software/money required to convincingly synthesize an orchestra.

There are plenty of free soundfont packages out there. If you have a desire to do something, I could recommend a few for starters. There's no reason money should be an obstacle.

[Piejacked!]

Chrono Trigger sux and your script is worse than shit. Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

"Where am i... better yet when am i"
rotfl when am i

CT tributes are for nostalgic losers go to the bar and get a life.

I feel smart.

[SILVERWOLF]

Chrono Trigger sux and your script is worse than shit. Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

"Where am i... better yet when am i"
rotfl when am i

CT tributes are for nostalgic losers go to the bar and get a life.

I feel smart.

And on the 11:00 news tonight: When trolls attack!

[Claado Shou]

Only in Canada...

Anyway, I'd like to change one small thing about the audition guidelines...the pendulum sound in the beginning is not necessary. Rellik has made a point of the fact that it's really hard to find a good pendulum effect, and it's also kind of counterproductive to force something like that on every piece, when many of these will be standalone and not used in the movie soundtrack anywhere. So...that is not necessary. Do it if you like, but not because I'm forcing you to. :)

[Zaphlin]

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

[DarkeSword]

Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dragoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dream.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/moonlight.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fallingstar.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/seven.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/sunmoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_childhood.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_child_of%20_the_wolf_clan_-_sion's_theme.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_cold_stone_walls.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/years.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/distance.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fight.mp3
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01079
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01095

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[Claado Shou]

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

1. No, I do not plan on making the movie. I have expressed a hope that should these two aspects of the movie come together, somebody will be willing to help create the third, namely the visual. But for now, the OST and the script are the only two finished products we're shooting for.

2. Yes, I took out Ayla and Robo. Along with them, I took out nearly an hour of unnecessary and confusing sidequests/backstory which would have drowned the movie with more than it needs. So know that my decision was well-thought-out, and the resulting product is not hurt, but instead is helped because of it.

[Rellik]

At first I was put off by the fact that it was probably never going to become a movie, but I figure I might as well get the orchestral experience and get a chance to make some cool mixes that will stand on their own after all is said and done anyway.

[zircon]

hm. I'm actually running into a lot of trouble here. As much as I'd like to do orchestral stuff, apparently I'm not quite ready yet - perhaps you should take me off the list.

[Claado Shou]

hm. I'm actually running into a lot of trouble here. As much as I'd like to do orchestral stuff, apparently I'm not quite ready yet - perhaps you should take me off the list.

No offense, but you've been working a maximum of three hours, probably closer to two. Perhaps you should give it a little time? You do have three weeks, you know.

A good suggestion would be to listen to other orchestral stuff similar to the style you want yours to be in, and take notes on the patterns of different instruments, and how they use them effectively. Fast, detache, higher-octave strings, or slower, drawn-out, lower ones? Fast brass or extended? Play by example would be my suggestion.

Just...please don't give up. I'm positive you can do something extraordinary. I mean, come on. You're zircon!

[Sleepy Emp]

An interesting project. I'll try to do my best.

[zircon]

hm. I'm actually running into a lot of trouble here. As much as I'd like to do orchestral stuff, apparently I'm not quite ready yet - perhaps you should take me off the list.

No offense, but you've been working a maximum of three hours, probably closer to two. Perhaps you should give it a little time? You do have three weeks, you know.

A good suggestion would be to listen to other orchestral stuff similar to the style you want yours to be in, and take notes on the patterns of different instruments, and how they use them effectively. Fast, detache, higher-octave strings, or slower, drawn-out, lower ones? Fast brass or extended? Play by example would be my suggestion.

Just...please don't give up. I'm positive you can do something extraordinary. I mean, come on. You're zircon!

I know when I'm beat. I have absolutely no artistic ideas, nor do I have any skill in writing this sort of thing. No promise whatsoever in what I currently have.

[Sam Ascher-Weiss]

I have nothing to say about the project. I just wanted to mention that Shariq's got some hot shit!

[Khrystoph]

I have no talent, skill, or knowledge whatsoever in making music. However, if this project as a whole does someday see a production phase, I'd beinterested in doing some voice work.

I tried to novelize CT a long time ago... I seem to have lost the disk. :x

[Claado Shou]

I know when I'm beat. I have absolutely no artistic ideas, nor do I have any skill in writing this sort of thing. No promise whatsoever in what I currently have.

I'm truly sorry to hear that. I could still use somewhere to host the music files and also someplace to make an official website, if you have any extra room on the ST server. Also, I know you have teh madd connectionz with people on ST, so a bit of advertising would be a welcome addition, though I don't want to force you into anything. :roll:

[Blake]

So the audition is a 3 minute write up of the main theme? Is it the same song as when you fight lavos? Because if it is, I'm totally digging it. I'll submit an audition as soon as possible. I love orchestral writing, and always wanted to do an orchestral chrono trigger project. I've waited, and I'm glad you made this. Thanks, and be expecting something.

[zircon]

I know when I'm beat. I have absolutely no artistic ideas, nor do I have any skill in writing this sort of thing. No promise whatsoever in what I currently have.

I'm truly sorry to hear that. I could still use somewhere to host the music files and also someplace to make an official website, if you have any extra room on the ST server. Also, I know you have teh madd connectionz with people on ST, so a bit of advertising would be a welcome addition, though I don't want to force you into anything. :roll:

Unfortunately, I don't have much extra space on ST.. and I can't really advertise there because it's rather dead while it's being redesigned. Sorry :(

I wish I could work on this project, but I'm just not good enough.

[-RK-]

Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dragoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dream.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/moonlight.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fallingstar.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/seven.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/sunmoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_childhood.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_child_of%20_the_wolf_clan_-_sion's_theme.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_cold_stone_walls.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/years.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/distance.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fight.mp3
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01079
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01095

????

Oh... Worst Burn Ever.

Anyways, I dont know If I can do symphonic/film type music well, never tried. I'll see what I can muster as an audition. If nothing, than nothing, but at least I can say I tried. :lol: Dang, no drumsets? Ouch.

[Tevin-Illithane]

Darkesword...zircon...Emperor...sephfire...Rellik. ..the rest of us should just give up now. :P

I doubt I'll be able to get anything done for this(just got my license so you all know what that means :D), but I'll at least do some messing around in FL, even if nothing comes of it. CT's just too good of a game to *not* give it a shot, deadly as sin competition or not. ;)

Interesting script, by the way.


-SoHP/-T

[DCT]

Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dragoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dream.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/moonlight.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fallingstar.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/seven.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/sunmoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_childhood.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_child_of%20_the_wolf_clan_-_sion's_theme.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_cold_stone_walls.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/years.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/distance.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fight.mp3
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01079
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01095

????
Eat it, BITCH.

-DCT

[SirRus]

dang this is one of the cooler thematic threads I have seen. I wish I could orchestrate, but yeah I won't even pretend like I know the first thing about it. The musicians you have lined up so far will no doubt provide some very high quality stuff (see if you can get Jeremy Robson too, cause yeah, wow...)

Can't wait to hear what comes of this project.

[Blake]

dang this is one of the cooler thematic threads I have seen. I wish I could orchestrate, but yeah I won't even pretend like I know the first thing about it. The musicians you have lined up so far will no doubt provide some very high quality stuff (see if you can get Jeremy Robson too, cause yeah, wow...)

Can't wait to hear what comes of this project.

I personally think that the styles you used in your earlier Chrono Cross remixes would be absolutely perfect for a theatrical soundtrack.

[Your Good Twin]

Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dragoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dream.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/moonlight.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fallingstar.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/seven.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/sunmoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_childhood.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_child_of%20_the_wolf_clan_-_sion's_theme.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_cold_stone_walls.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/years.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/distance.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fight.mp3
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01079
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01095

????

Man, don't waste your good time trying to show up that punk. He spent all of a minute doing the pointless troll thing and you went and found all those links and posted them. You don't need to prove anything to him, he's just doing the usual asshole thing.

Anyway, sorry to be one of the "this sounds awesome and I am totally supportive but I can't remix for shit so I'll just be watching" guys but, this sounds awesome and I am totally supportive but I can't remix for shit so I'll just be watching. 8)

Claado, thank you for coming up with a remix project with an actual DIRECTION.

[SirRus]

Anyway, sorry to be one of the "this sounds awesome and I am totally supportive but I can't remix for shit so I'll just be watching" guys but, this sounds awesome and I am totally supportive but I can't remix for shit so I'll just be watching.

Yeah I didn't even apologize for that, but well said.

And Bliz, thanks for the vote of confidence, but truly I don't have any knowledge of orchestration. You on the other hand, demonstrated some very fine skill with your recently submitted DK ReMix - I really enjoyed that, and I was really impressed by the very positive review by the fella over at vgmix who orchestrates for a living. I would definitely like to hear your take on the CT main theme along with the other mixers already listed, if you have time.

[GrayLightning]

Interesting project, somewhat tempted to join, but ultimately I don't like the limitations placed. This is not a criticism of the project, I simply like to have complete freedom when I do something. :P

Good luck to everyone involved.

[Khrystoph]

CT's just too good of a game to *not* give it a shot, deadly as sin competition or not. ;)

Interesting script, by the way.


-SoHP/-T

You're a poet and didn't know it. :D

[Claado Shou]

To answer your questions...

So the audition is a 3 minute write up of the main theme? Is it the same song as when you fight lavos?

Download the soundtrack, and it's the first and second songs on the OST, "Presentiment" and "Chrono Trigger". The soundtrack has a link in the first post.

Unfortunately, I don't have much extra space on ST.. and I can't really advertise there because it's rather dead while it's being redesigned. Sorry.

I wish I could work on this project, but I'm just not good enough.

Wow, double ouch. That's okay though...I'm sure if the project takes off, it wouldn't be too hard to find webspace. Thanks anyway.

Either way, I hope you watch what other people are doing, and keep involved (at least as a watcher) in the project. Your advice would be appreciated.

The musicians you have lined up so far will no doubt provide some very high quality stuff (see if you can get Jeremy Robson too, cause yeah, wow...)

Thank you for the kind words. But about the second part of your post...let's just say that Mr. Robson is indisposed when it comes to this project.

[Stones Jackson]

Treasure the luck that others wish to you.


Some have lost the right (http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/). However, others are still praying (http://www.chronotrigger.info/).



EDIT: One more (http://www.chrono-trigger.com/)

[A-RoN]

Darkesworde can't do orchestral, all he can do is retarded syruppy faux-saxamophone dealies.

http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dragoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/dream.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/moonlight.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fallingstar.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/seven.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/sunmoon.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_childhood.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_child_of%20_the_wolf_clan_-_sion's_theme.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/revamped_soundtrack/shariq_ansari_-_cold_stone_walls.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/years.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/distance.mp3
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/original/mp3/fight.mp3
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01079
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01095

????
Eat it, BITCH.

-DCT

Piejacked, you just got served.

By the way, folks, you may want to send the news over to Destiny (http://www.ocremix.org/detailremixer.php?mixerid=377). She loves composing movie-ish type soundtracks.

I'll provide beats if anyone needs some kind of hip-hop thing. As for instrumentation, I can't do too much in the movie ambient department so count me out unless you are in need of percussive assistance.

[Claado Shou]

Alright...I've given it a lot of thought, and I think I've finally made up my mind.

DRUMSETS ARE ALLOWED.

My reasoning is that it'll be impossible to do a truly CT-style battle theme without the use of normal drums, and if one type of song can use it, why not the others?

Just be forewarned...the songs should not be drum-driven. Instrumentation is still incredibly important. So there.

[sephfire]

First off, sweet project concept Claado has come up with here. I'm really looking forward to hearing the final result.

I'll get to work on my audition piece, though synth-free orchestration is a bit new to me. I would argue that certain limited synth work be allowed as (from what I understand) some of our greatest modern film composers use them to reinforce the orchestra, such as Hans Zimmer ("The Last Samurai," "The Lion King," etc.): my film composing god. However, he uses it VERY subtely and I can easily see synth work getting out of hand here so I'll respect your call on this.

As for drum kits, I believe you can get fantastic battle music without utilizing any type of rock or electronic-style percussion. Take the "Pirates of the Caribbean" OST (my all-time favorite film OST). All traditional bass drum, timpani, etc. but it still packs a great punch. Of course, if that's what you meant by drum sets, than disregard this whole paragraph. ^^

I'd love to take/collaborate on a battle theme if possible. ^^


....aw, we lost zircon? boooooo.... :cry:

[Claado Shou]

Oh, did I forget to mention, also, that collaboration pieces are allowed? Not in the audition stage, of course, but definitely in the mixing stage. Collaborations would be amazing.

What I mean by 'drumsets' is the typical drum setup that you'll see in any modern-day band. Several toms, cymbals, kickdrum, etc. etc. All of that is allowed. You can thank Destiny and zyko's amazing song "Into the Deep" for that particular addition.

Also, I used to own the Pirates of the Caribbean OST, but I've since lost it, and I'd like to know where Hans Zimmer used synths. That would be interesting to look at.


ALSO: DarkeSword, all of those orchestral pieces you listed...any of them quality enough to use as an audition piece? As long as you provide a visual, that'd be cool.

[sephfire]

I'm sorry, I'm SURE you explained this somewhere and I just missed it, but could you explain what you mean by supplying a "visual" along with our work?

[Zeality]

Damnit, I am so late. I had to go on a campout. Let me catch up.

[DarkeSword]

ALSO: DarkeSword, all of those orchestral pieces you listed...any of them quality enough to use as an audition piece? As long as you provide a visual, that'd be cool.

Haha. Well I just posted those to own Piejacked, but I guess Blue Skies Over Guardia (the very last one, I think) is pretty evocative and self-explainatory. Just think about walking into Leene Square and seeing all of the amazing things that the fair has to offer, on a beautiful, cloudless day.

I could probably still work on an audition piece, if you want.

[Claado Shou]

Example:

0:00-0:34 -- the camera pans over the world of Chrono Trigger, as birds fly by and balloons lift off from the Millennial Fair. The many villages of the Zenan/Guardia peninsula are in full view. The music for this would be very relaxed, very calm.

0:35 -- the camera zooms quickly down into the plains of Guardia, a ground-level view. The music for this would be a fast arpeggio that transitions into a more upbeat section.

0:36-1:45 -- the camera zooms through the plains, passing over various features of the terrain as people are shown (intermittently) going about their daily lives, while credits continue. The music for this would be very fast-paced and powerful.

1:46-2:20 -- the camera goes into the sky again and takes another look around, watching the reflections of clouds in the water, looking over Guardia Castle. The music for this would be a cool-down, very soft and instrumental.

2:21-2:55 -- the camera would zoom over the water, under the bridge, delving into the ocean and then coming back up into the sky for a final look around. The music for this would be very upbeat once again.

2:56-3:00 -- the camera comes to Crono's room, positioning itself on the main character therein. The music for this would be the string section fading out, the closing for the opening cinematic.

That's an example of what I meant. Describe the cinematic, as well as time periods described.

[Claado Shou]

Haha. Well I just posted those to own Piejacked, but I guess Blue Skies Over Guardia (the very last one, I think) is pretty evocative and self-explainatory. Just think about walking into Leene Square and seeing all of the amazing things that the fair has to offer, on a beautiful, cloudless day.

Holy crap. I think we just found our Millennial Fair piece remake. The only problem would be the piano-type thing in there, which could be replaced by strings quite easily. And you're right, it does explain its visual by itself. Otherwise, one track out of 25 has been already created.

This also means, DarkeSword, that you're accepted. Congratulations.

[sephfire]

This also means, DarkeSword, that you're accepted.

As if there was ever any doubt. ^^

[Your Good Twin]

Well, I want to say I think you should leave the modern style drumsets out. Once again, this is sideline talk since I won't be remixing, but I really think it would take a lot away from the John Williams style symphonic soundtrack. I think sephfire is right, good fast paced battle music can be done without drumsets. Just think of all the battles from John Williams scored movies! Star Wars alone would be great reference.

[Claado Shou]

Yeah...but take a listen to http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01222 and you'll see how they can both exist in unison.

That's what I'm aiming for. If the submission is too far off-course, I'll ask for revision. Remember, it's all subject to approval. No WIP is finished until everyone has their say-so.

[DarkeSword]

Haha. Well I just posted those to own Piejacked, but I guess Blue Skies Over Guardia (the very last one, I think) is pretty evocative and self-explainatory. Just think about walking into Leene Square and seeing all of the amazing things that the fair has to offer, on a beautiful, cloudless day.

Holy crap. I think we just found our Millennial Fair piece remake. The only problem would be the piano-type thing in there, which could be replaced by strings quite easily. And you're right, it does explain its visual by itself. Otherwise, one track out of 25 has been already created.

This also means, DarkeSword, that you're accepted. Congratulations.

You really want to replace the piano? There's already strings every where in there. It's really an integral part of the track. I could change it to something else, but it won't have the same effect.

[Klay]

You took out Robo? I hope you die.

[Rellik]

Well, I want to say I think you should leave the modern style drumsets out. Once again, this is sideline talk since I won't be remixing, but I really think it would take a lot away from the John Williams style symphonic soundtrack. I think sephfire is right, good fast paced battle music can be done without drumsets. Just think of all the battles from John Williams scored movies! Star Wars alone would be great reference.

To be honest, I don't think we're going to be able to get John Williams to work on the project. And to be honest again, I don't think we're going to be able to get a real orchestra to record us all kinds of brass articulations to get that punchy sound. Considering that we have to work with free SF2, I think allowing drumsets is a wise decision.

Really, the free SF2 thing has not been a problem for me so far. They are actually better for Orchestral than Sampletank is (in general; SampleTank certainly has its strong samples when it comes to orchestral, but it doesn't have a huge range of useable stuff). But I don't think that using just free SF2's anybody but an expert would be able to make something truly pumping in a battle type sense. This is what I have so far of my audition entry: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/Rellik_-_CT_Open_v2.mp3. As you can tell, it's not exactly energetic, and this is as energetic as I have been able to make it (without using a drumset or guitars or anything) since I'm not an expert.

[Claado Shou]

Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery nice. I can clearly imagine this being in the opening to the CT movie, even though it's not finished. The use of your brass section is very impressive, especially near the end.

Just, uh, you know...finish it. And give us a visual. I'm sure you'll have no problem whatsoever with either of those things.

[Claado Shou]

You really want to replace the piano? There's already strings every where in there. It's really an integral part of the track. I could change it to something else, but it won't have the same effect.

The thing is, I'm very set on saving the piano exclusively for the ending theme, and if you could try something that worked as well as that (or even slightly less well) it would be a perfect piece. I understand if you don't want to...either way, you're still accepted. :)

[Your Good Twin]

I guess you could say I don't know any better. I've heard some amazing orchestral stuff come from remixers, so I assumed you guys could do just about whatever you needed to. Of course, the work I most think of as relating to this kind of project is Jeremy Robson's Final Fantasy VII Philharmonic Suite. Perhaps I'm thinking a little to boldly.

And no, I didn't quite expect John Williams quality work (no offense) to come out of this, but I was using him as the quintessential example of orchestral movie scoring.

By the way, I know you guy's are on top of things, but did you think about maybe doing a couple collaboration pieces with klutz? He's so good with the piano, I thought it might work really well with someone else's symphonic back-up.

[Blake]

Well, if you can give me a week or so to come up with something, I'll have incredible samples. Thanks to some good grades on my progress report, my mom's buying me Quantum Leap Silver, with me contributing my saved up fifty bucks. I found the demos of this sample thing to be incredible. However, I'm not sure if my computer will be able to handle it when it arrives.

But anyway, i know a lot of you will say that I'm stupid for buying samples,because anyone with good master abilities can make bad or free samples sound incredible, but I've really been dreaming of getting Quantum Leap Silver Orchestra. I'm really losing the electronic interest and I'm only really interested in doing orchestral music, so I guess this sorta justifies forking over 350 bucks.

[Rellik]

Well, if you can give me a week or so to come up with something, I'll have incredible samples. Thanks to some good grades on my progress report, my mom's buying me Quantum Leap Silver, with me contributing my saved up fifty bucks. I found the demos of this sample thing to be incredible. However, I'm not sure if my computer will be able to handle it when it arrives.

But anyway, i know a lot of you will say that I'm stupid for buying samples,because anyone with good master abilities can make bad or free samples sound incredible, but I've really been dreaming of getting Quantum Leap Silver Orchestra. I'm really losing the electronic interest and I'm only really interested in doing orchestral music, so I guess this sorta justifies forking over 350 bucks.

I wish my parents would buy me stuff just for having good grades like that :(. They did buy me energyXT for my birthday which I love... but that's $40 vs. $350 (I'd rather buy energyXT myself and have them buy me EWQLSO silver, but that'd never happen :() Anyway, congratulations :D EWQLSOSE sounds great!

Unfortunately, you're only going to be able to use it on this project if the rest of us also have QLS. So unless you're willing to buy it for us... it's still gonna have to be free SF2's with little expception.

[Claado Shou]

Well, if you can give me a week or so to come up with something, I'll have incredible samples. Thanks to some good grades on my progress report, my mom's buying me Quantum Leap Silver, with me contributing my saved up fifty bucks. I found the demos of this sample thing to be incredible. However, I'm not sure if my computer will be able to handle it when it arrives.

But anyway, i know a lot of you will say that I'm stupid for buying samples,because anyone with good master abilities can make bad or free samples sound incredible, but I've really been dreaming of getting Quantum Leap Silver Orchestra. I'm really losing the electronic interest and I'm only really interested in doing orchestral music, so I guess this sorta justifies forking over 350 bucks.

You can take three weeks (from yesterday) if you like. But just know that if you're using non-free samples in your piece, it won't be considered for the mandatory soundfont set. All samples used for the actual mixing stage must be from the same free set.

Oh, and $350? Well, $300 of that is your mom's, so...that must've been one damn good progress report. :)

[Zaphlin]

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

1. No, I do not plan on making the movie. I have expressed a hope that should these two aspects of the movie come together, somebody will be willing to help create the third, namely the visual. But for now, the OST and the script are the only two finished products we're shooting for.

2. Yes, I took out Ayla and Robo. Along with them, I took out nearly an hour of unnecessary and confusing sidequests/backstory which would have drowned the movie with more than it needs. So know that my decision was well-thought-out, and the resulting product is not hurt, but instead is helped because of it.

...But Robo's my favorite :(

[Zeality]

http://www.sundancedesigns.net/whine.JPG

[Blake]

Well, if you can give me a week or so to come up with something, I'll have incredible samples. Thanks to some good grades on my progress report, my mom's buying me Quantum Leap Silver, with me contributing my saved up fifty bucks. I found the demos of this sample thing to be incredible. However, I'm not sure if my computer will be able to handle it when it arrives.

But anyway, i know a lot of you will say that I'm stupid for buying samples,because anyone with good master abilities can make bad or free samples sound incredible, but I've really been dreaming of getting Quantum Leap Silver Orchestra. I'm really losing the electronic interest and I'm only really interested in doing orchestral music, so I guess this sorta justifies forking over 350 bucks.

You can take three weeks (from yesterday) if you like. But just know that if you're using non-free samples in your piece, it won't be considered for the mandatory soundfont set. All samples used for the actual mixing stage must be from the same free set.

Oh, and $350? Well, $300 of that is your mom's, so...that must've been one damn good progress report. :)

I've sorta been begging her for a while. It's not even the end of 1st quarter yet. :lol:


Anyway, when you say the same free "set", does that mean we have to use the exact same samples?

[Claado Shou]

Anyway, when you say the same free "set", does that mean we have to use the exact same samples?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Use what you like for the audition process, but just remember that in order to achieve the feeling of this entire thing being performed by the same orchestra, we need to achieve the sound of a single orchestra. Which means, one sample set.

Sorry if that douses your plans, but it's necessary.

[DarkeSword]

You really want to replace the piano? There's already strings every where in there. It's really an integral part of the track. I could change it to something else, but it won't have the same effect.

The thing is, I'm very set on saving the piano exclusively for the ending theme, and if you could try something that worked as well as that (or even slightly less well) it would be a perfect piece. I understand if you don't want to...either way, you're still accepted. :)

I really don't think there's a problem with using piano in pieces. Piano is used a lot in film score music as a PART of the orchestra. I'm not highlighting the piano as a solo instrument here; it's part of the texture of sound. :P

[Zeality]

The Millennial Fair will be one of the very first songs, so there will be much time between it and the ending's use.

[A-RoN]

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

1. No, I do not plan on making the movie. I have expressed a hope that should these two aspects of the movie come together, somebody will be willing to help create the third, namely the visual. But for now, the OST and the script are the only two finished products we're shooting for.

2. Yes, I took out Ayla and Robo. Along with them, I took out nearly an hour of unnecessary and confusing sidequests/backstory which would have drowned the movie with more than it needs. So know that my decision was well-thought-out, and the resulting product is not hurt, but instead is helped because of it.

...But Robo's my favorite :(

Awww, is widdle Zaphwin gunna cwy?

[Piejacked!]

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

1. No, I do not plan on making the movie. I have expressed a hope that should these two aspects of the movie come together, somebody will be willing to help create the third, namely the visual. But for now, the OST and the script are the only two finished products we're shooting for.

2. Yes, I took out Ayla and Robo. Along with them, I took out nearly an hour of unnecessary and confusing sidequests/backstory which would have drowned the movie with more than it needs. So know that my decision was well-thought-out, and the resulting product is not hurt, but instead is helped because of it.

...But Robo's my favorite :(

Awww, is widdle Zaphwin gunna cwy?P'zoned!!!

[Zeality]

Ownage is an illusion, along with everything else one claims to be final.

[Zaphlin]

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

1. No, I do not plan on making the movie. I have expressed a hope that should these two aspects of the movie come together, somebody will be willing to help create the third, namely the visual. But for now, the OST and the script are the only two finished products we're shooting for.

2. Yes, I took out Ayla and Robo. Along with them, I took out nearly an hour of unnecessary and confusing sidequests/backstory which would have drowned the movie with more than it needs. So know that my decision was well-thought-out, and the resulting product is not hurt, but instead is helped because of it.

...But Robo's my favorite :(

Awww, is widdle Zaphwin gunna cwy?

yes... lemme alone

[Claado Shou]

Yeah, leave Zaphlin alone. He's simply being the CT fan we all know he is. Understandable attachment to a likable, though unnecessary, character.

Also...you know what, screw it. Use the piano. ZeaLitY's right, there's a crapload of time between the two pieces. Besides, it works.

SCRIPT UPDATE: I took out a scene and redid some of the earlier dialogue, which I hadn't done any revisions on. I also tested out an idea on a new version of the script that I thought might work out, but I realized it wouldn't at about page 20 (ZeaLitY knows what I'm talking about). So yeah...thar ye be.

[Tevin-Illithane]

CT's just too good of a game to *not* give it a shot, deadly as sin competition or not. ;)

Interesting script, by the way.


-SoHP/-T

You're a poet and didn't know it. :D


Hey, you caught it! I was beginning to wonder if anyone would notice. :P

[Your Good Twin]

I still need to get around to reading this thing. I've only played through the game once, but I thought I remembered Robo being vital to their quest...

Oh, and this is getting WAY ahead of ourselves, but I wonder if eventually you could put a sound play to it? Get together some reasonable voice actors (could be anybody, I don't mean professional ones) and act out the whole movie using the music in the background and everything. Even find some good special effects sounds for when needed. Damn, that would be fucking awesome. I would just sit back and listen to it and imagine the movie going on in my head.

[Claado Shou]

Oh, like a radio show? That might be kinda cool.

Oh, and Robo was only vital to their quest when it came to accessing the Factory in the north. But since the Factory went bye-bye, so did Robo.

I find it amusing that nobody's said anything about Ayla yet. Apparently cavewomen are at the bottom of the likeability food-chain. :)

[SILVERWOLF]

Oh, like a radio show? That might be kinda cool.

Oh, and Robo was only vital to their quest when it came to accessing the Factory in the north. But since the Factory went bye-bye, so did Robo.

I find it amusing that nobody's said anything about Ayla yet. Apparently cavewomen are at the bottom of the likeability food-chain. :)

Heh, Ayla was one of my favorite characters, but since the movie isn't being made, I really don't care that much.

[Claado Shou]

Heh, Ayla was one of my favorite characters, but since the movie isn't being made, I really don't care that much.

Don't be all pessimistic on me. It may get made. This is just starting out, you know.

[Dhsu]

Chrono Trigger Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price? Should be around $50 or something...

[Claado Shou]

Yes, I realize the connection, but I didn't think that I could fit the entire thing on one subject line. So MSRP it is.

EDIT: No it isn't.

[SILVERWOLF]

Heh, Ayla was one of my favorite characters, but since the movie isn't being made, I really don't care that much.

Don't be all pessimistic on me. It may get made. This is just starting out, you know.

Oh really? Well if it does get made and you don't include Ayla, I'll just have to hunt you down and rip your lungs out. :wink:

Besides, she played a fairly large role. She gave you the dreamstone, helped you fight the reptites, gave lavos his name, and just plain kicked ass.

[Durinthal]

I was also going to mention how Robo caused them to first arrive at the End of Time, but that's resolved through the script anyway.

In addition, there's a typo in the script. Right after they arrive at 12,000 BC, Marle says "Would’ve been nice to have Marle’s fire magic now..." - should be Lucca mentioned instead of Marle in the dialogue, obviously.

[SirRus]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2269

Have you heard this one Claado? Just in case you hadn't...

[Claado Shou]

Ah. Well, thank you Durinthal, I didn't notice that one. The reason that's there is because Marle was originally going to stay behind, but I changed it for the sake of the Crono/Marle connection. Anyway, I'll fix that right away.

BTW, it's nice to know people are actually reading the script.

As for the Jared Hudson piece, no I hadn't heard that yet, SirRus. But I very much like its professionalism, and the fact that it's CT. I might just drop Mr. Hudson a line...

Also, SirRus, I heard your new WIP and I can see that your orchestral skills are definitely qualifications enough for this particular project. If you feel like joining in, the deadline is November 5th. I'm sure you'd find it a liberating experience. :P

[Raz Takasha]

I'm yet another "love it, support it, but can't do shit about it" kinda guy. Anything I can do, I would be very happy to help yall out with (voice-acting, I can and would be thrilled to do if ya' get around to it). And good luck to all of you! The support is wide!

[-RK-]

Anyways, I dont know If I can do symphonic/film type music well, never tried. I'll see what I can muster as an audition. If nothing, than nothing, but at least I can say I tried. :lol: Dang, no drumsets? Ouch.

Yeah, crash and burn. Its not gonna happen with me. Sweet project though, cool idea.

[sephfire]

Man, orchestral composition is killing me. It's definitely something I'm going to have to get the hang of.
After like 12 hours of work, this little 45 second bit is all I got (or all I'm letting anyone hear for now, the rest sucked too bad ^^ ).

http://www.finalfantasy7.info/inciting_incident.mp3

Not sure exactly why I'm posting it now, this isn't a WIP forum .... I guess call it a preview or something?

Speaking of, Claado do we send the final audition pieces to you in PM or post them here?

[Claado Shou]

Wow, dude, that was very nice. Great transitions and feel. Very intense and realistic. Just make a 3:00 piece and then you're in, for sure.

Yeah, you can just post them in here. I want to give feedback as much as possible, because I want as many people as possible involved with this. The more feedback, the better the submissions...the better the submissions, the more accepted.

Oh, and I'm sorry to hear that, LordMaestro. By your username, I thought that you were a sure bet, but I guess I was mistaken. Good luck, and thanks for the vote of confidence.

[Lacour]

question...is the script based off the game itself or did you make some changes when writing it?

[Claado Shou]

question...is the script based off the game itself or did you make some changes when writing it?

Both. I took the main storyline of the game, as well as many of the defining moments within the game, and molded a new set of circumstances that fit the action going on. Basically, I used a third (or less) of what was in the game and turned it into a very full script. Of course, Robo and Ayla went bye-bye, but it was a necessary evil.

Read the script outline using the link at the bottom of the first post in this thread. You'll see what I mean.

[Rellik]

Yeah, sephfire, I like what you have so far :). Nice use of flutes, although I find the chord changes too 'obtuse' for my tastes.

[Raz Takasha]

Well, I just finished the script. I must say, very beautiful. It feels a bit rushed to me, but then again, that could just be in comparison to the game itself. I think if it actually went cinematic, someone could pull this off very, very nicely. There were two typo's I saw (One dealt with Masa and Mune, the other I've forgotten), but other than that, character's were developed, memorable scenes, dialouge fits, it was sexy! Hope this can go somewhere, and again, good luck!

[sephfire]

Yeah, sephfire, I like what you have so far . Nice use of flutes, although I find the chord changes too 'obtuse' for my tastes.

Man, when it comes to orchestra, I just bang away at the keys til I hear something sound good. :lol:

room full of monkeys with midi keyboards > sephfire

[Claado Shou]

Well, I just finished the script. I must say, very beautiful. It feels a bit rushed to me, but then again, that could just be in comparison to the game itself. I think if it actually went cinematic, someone could pull this off very, very nicely. There were two typo's I saw (One dealt with Masa and Mune, the other I've forgotten), but other than that, character's were developed, memorable scenes, dialouge fits, it was sexy! Hope this can go somewhere, and again, good luck!

I'm guessing you mean the fact that I spelled 'heroes' without a second E, which I just fixed. As for the second typo, could it be the Marle/Lucca mix-up in 12,000 B.C.? If it is, then all is good.

Thank you for the kind words. Sexy? Well, I'll take that as a compliment. I appreciate it.

And what you said before, Raz, that "support is wide"...what did you mean by that? Has this spread to other websites/communities already? If so, which ones?

[CC Ricers]

Nice project you got going on, Claado. It must explain the recent lack of your activity in these forums, but now I must say I'm very surprised.

Are the track times merely suggested? I'm too lazy to add them up, but they will probably fit 2 CDs. Plan on making covers/labels for them?

[Tyler Heath]

I was supposed to post here saying I'm going to be participating, but I thought I'd wait until I had something to show you guys. "Call it a preview." :D

Predetermination (http://www.soundtempest.net/unknown/Tyler_Heath_-_Predetermination.mp3)

[Claado Shou]

Fiskin' awesome, Unknown. Holy shit, this is badass. I love the tempo/mood shift near the end, and the brass...so amazing. Truly the work of an orchestral extraordinaire.

So yeah, make this the right length, do whatever it is that you do in order to create such masterpieces, and you're in. Most definitely.

Nice project you got going on, Claado. It must explain the recent lack of your activity in these forums, but now I must say I'm very surprised.

Are the track times merely suggested? I'm too lazy to add them up, but they will probably fit 2 CDs. Plan on making covers/labels for them?

My lack of activity over the past month (I didn't know anybody had noticed) was a result of having been in PA for three weeks, without a high-speed connection. Believe me, if I had been able to post, I would've. Me love OCR.

No, the track times are not suggested. They are mandatory. The reason is because each page of script is equal approximately to one minute of screen time, or one minute of music. So the estimates are based on that aspect, and are not subject to variation. Can somebody go 10 seconds over or under? Sure, that'll work out. But they should be considered the ideal length.

Also, as per the labels/number of CDs, if somebody wanted to divide the OST into two CDs, the best place would be the End of Time/12,000 B.C. marker, making it a 44:30/49:30 split. I was just going to suggest people making MP3 CDs of the music, but if you really want to do something else...

No, I'm not planning on making CD labels or distributing the album when it's done, though since I've already made a kickass banner (see sig) I guess I could do something for that. Upload them to the official CT:MSRP site, should that come about?

BTW, anybody who's willing to help me create a website or who has webspace I could use for free, your help would be more than appreciated. This thing needs some good hosting.

~.C.S.~

[SirRus]

o dang, Unknown is participating. Seems like only yesterday I was listening to some of his music and thinking he would be perfect to work on this project. Sweet preview btw.

[Claado Shou]

Okay, here's a tentative CD case cover. Tell me what you think.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/585226/CT-MSRPCDCover1.JPG

???

[krispy]

Im interested in the project, if you want to hear my qualifications get me on aim at oOKrispyIKremeOo. I might beable to drag Gray into this too hehehe

[Lacour]

Okay, here's a tentative CD case cover. Tell me what you think.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/585226/CT-MSRPCDCover1.JPG

???

Very creative i must say, 9/10
where can i listen to the original sound track besides the website you have posted.

[Claado Shou]

Uh...VGMusic.com will probably have a majority of the game's MIDIs there, but they're lower quality than the actual thing. I don't know why you'd want a different filetype...

[Rellik]

I was supposed to post here saying I'm going to be participating, but I thought I'd wait until I had something to show you guys. "Call it a preview." :D

Predetermination (http://www.soundtempest.net/unknown/Tyler_Heath_-_Predetermination.mp3)

Very cool! Is that sort of percussion allowed, though?

Great Ty style orchestral as always, though, basically. I have some issue with the masterring (the bass is entirely too heavy, imo). You seem to have done a heck of a lot of real arrangement here; makes me think that my own audition piece may need more deviation from the original. Although I have to say, it seems like you've taken it to the extreme; the original is barely recognizable. Still cool though :D I don't think there was ever any doubt as to whether or not you'd be accepted for the project.

Claado, was it really ever your intention to reject anyone? I understand about only one person being able to get the title theme, but does the "audition" count for anything else?

[ekm]

Okay, here's a tentative CD case cover. Tell me what you think.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/585226/CT-MSRPCDCover1.JPG

???

Pretty cool, but please tell me you're going to spice up the text a bit. And for the love of god, anti-aliasing.

[Claado Shou]

Claado, was it really ever your intention to reject anyone? I understand about only one person being able to get the title theme, but does the "audition" count for anything else?

Well, yes. Sort of. It lets me weed out the people that think they have what it takes, claim a song, and then never do anything about it. Let's say some starting remixer comes in here and claims a 6:30 song, and then just sits on it. That wastes the opportunity for other people to get it done, and also for it to be done at its fullest effectiveness. Besides, if somebody doesn't want to participate in the auditioning process because it's too much hassle, then what can I expect from them when it comes to the real thing?

Pretty cool, but please tell me you're going to spice up the text a bit. And for the love of god, anti-aliasing.

I maaaaaaay. 8) I'll probably just ask somebody to help me when it comes to design and stuff. krispy suggested somebody, and I'll look into it.

BTW, krispy has been accepted into the mixing stage, as well as GrayLightning, who he dragged with him for collab.

MIXERS:

DarkeSword
Unknown
krispy
GrayLightning

Very nice.

[Tyler Heath]

I love days off from school. I finished my audition piece in another few hours. Rellik, just for you I stuck closer to the original near the end. :D

It's more than long enough now (4:20), with more emotional pull (I think?!) and variation. I'm actually considering submitting this to VGMix - I hadn't expected to get a full work out of an audition. :P

Tyler Heath - Predetermination (http://www.soundtempest.net/unknown/Tyler_Heath_-_Predetermination.mp3)

This song is pretty much done. If anyone has any specific suggestions/problems with it let me know and I'll look into fixing it.

[SILVERWOLF]

I love days off from school. I finished my audition piece in another few hours. Rellik, just for you I stuck closer to the original near the end. :D

It's more than long enough now (4:20), with more emotional pull (I think?!) and variation. I'm actually considering submitting this to VGMix - I hadn't expected to get a full work out of an audition. :P

Tyler Heath - Predetermination (http://www.soundtempest.net/unknown/Tyler_Heath_-_Predetermination.mp3)

This song is pretty much done. If anyone has any specific suggestions/problems with it let me know and I'll look into fixing it.

I like :D

[Claado Shou]

Unknown, thou hast outdoneth thyself.

Since you had been pre-approved prior to making this piece, I won't say anything about it being so long. But just for the record, this is masterful work here.

I have to ask, however, that when you do start making mixes for this project, that they stay within the time limit. That's my only worry. Quality, as I can tell, will be superb no matter what. :lol:

[Tyler Heath]

Yeah, after I had finished the song I re-read the audition guidlines and found that I had skipped the part about 3:00 long (+/- 5-10s) and had only read the part about "the only limit is the 3:00" and that it could be however long you wanted.

My apologies, but I still like it.

[Claado Shou]

Honestly, a lot of the ending material could be cut down/cut out entirely, and then the rest trimmed up for a perfectly acceptable 3:00 piece. If you still want to compete for the title theme, that is...

[Xerol Oplan]

Well, if you can get voice actors lined up, and maybe find someone else with Maya, I might be able to do some CG work sometime next summer. (We've got quite a few things in the pipeline right now, but Escape's only going to take 2-3 months and the other stuff can be spread out over a year or so.)

[Blake]

I'll have a lil WIP coming, though it's not good as Id like it to be.

[Claado Shou]

I'll have a lil WIP coming, though it's not good as I'd like it to be.

Take your time. It's a three-week stage, and you still have over two weeks left. Nobody's rushing you to hurry.

If what you meant, though, is that you'd rather use non-free soundfonts, then I can understand. Don't belittle yourself, though. I'm sure it'll be great.

[Blake]

I'll have a lil WIP coming, though it's not good as I'd like it to be.

Take your time. It's a three-week stage, and you still have over two weeks left. Nobody's rushing you to hurry.

If what you meant, though, is that you'd rather use non-free soundfonts, then I can understand. Don't belittle yourself, though. I'm sure it'll be great.

No; I always work with free soundfonts. I just accidentally made it sound boring.

Btw Tyler your song is awesome.

[Tyler Heath]

Btw Tyler your song is awesome.

hooray :D

edit:

I'm going to leave the song the way it is for now. I haven't heard the full editions of anyone else's songs yet (or even a wip, in some cases), so I'll wait and see who else made what. I'd kind of like for everyone to have a fighting chance, you know?

[tweex]

hey guys,
just wanted to say that i like this project greatly, and having sephfire be my roommate, i get see this thing progress from the front line!!

i just have one suggestion. it's kinda hard to find the audition pieces in this particular thread. with all the comments and ideas that are thrown out, it's kinda nasty to try and sort through each page to find the links. is there any way that they could be posted in the WIP forum as well. i could understand that djp might not like that, and that these pieces arent an actual remix but just an audition, but it would still be a little more organized that way.

again, looking forward to this :P!!!

djprotone

[Claado Shou]

i just have one suggestion. it's kinda hard to find the audition pieces in this particular thread. with all the comments and ideas that are thrown out, it's kinda nasty to try and sort through each page to find the links. is there any way that they could be posted in the WIP forum as well. i could understand that djp might not like that, and that these pieces arent an actual remix but just an audition, but it would still be a little more organized that way.

I'll do you one better. I'll copy all the links to the first post for easy listening.

~.C.S.~

[tweex]

I'll do you one better. I'll copy all the links to the first post for easy listening.

sweet dude, thanx a lot!!!

djprotone

[Claado Shou]

Alright, I have some bad and urgent news. It doesn't involve the CT project, but then again, it kinda does.

I will be indisposed (read: not at home) for the next week, until Thursday or Friday. There are some family issues that I have to deal with that I won't go into, but I'll tell you that it's important enough for me to leave immediately.

If you want, continue to post audition pieces and get feedback. But just know that I won't be able to respond. Good luck.

~.C.S.~

[Your Good Twin]

Well, I hope everything comes through with your personal dealings. Still supporting and looking forward to this.

[sephfire]

Dangit, I hate "songwriter's block" (term invented by me to make "talent deficit" sound professional).

Hey Unknown what were you using in your percussion section? I can't quite pick each instrument out, but it sounds tight.

I'm still working on mine. School is keeping me pretty pinned down though. Funny, I always thought to myself that I'd never attempt a remix of the CT opening theme because I'd never know what to do with it. I'll get something banged out eventually.

[Raz Takasha]

*still haunts this topic* Things seem to be goin' nicely for yall. About to hop over and listen to those tracks...

[Sleepy Emp]

Ok, here's my wip. I hope I'll be able to finish it by November, 5 :D Thank you.

CT Movie Soundtrack - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2569)

[suzumebachi]

If I were to partake and contribute musically to the project, would I, the great and noble Suzumebachi, be required to submit an audition?

[Rellik]

Ok, here's my wip. I hope I'll be able to finish it by November, 5 :D Thank you.

CT Movie Soundtrack - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2569)

Cool! I like where it's going towards the end of the song (actually going into the theme that the audition is on). Only suggestion I really have is to improve the mixing. Other than that, very peppy and clean.

What did you use for the brass?

[sephfire]

Cool, almost forgot Emperor was getting in on this. Very noice.

BTW, I updated my WIP last night. Still a tad sloppy, but I haven't had a lot of time. :P

Inciting Incident (http://www.finalfantasy7.info/inciting_incident.mp3)

[SirRus]

Wow, I am really impressed so far with the quality of songs here. Not really a surprise considering I have been a fan of each individual member's works before, but I gotta say, with the quality of musicians contributing so far, I am getting really excited about the future of this project.. and nervous about my own audition piece. Deadline is closer than I thought, hopefully I will have something to post here ASAP (somewhere between my assload of work and 3 midterms this week).

[RoeTaKa]

Oh you know I might actually try for this, I have been doing two orchestral pieces for the past two days so a third being this audition wouldn't hurt! I'll see what I can try.

[Khid]

Just coming into the forums and into the thread. I'm not a remixers, but I want to encourage you guys to do a good job! Which alot of you probably will!

To the person who started it and is writing the script--

I'm actually a writer, and it's cool to see someone else on the boards who's going at a Chrono Trigger script. I'm going to download yours and read the first fifteen.

[Khid]

Wow! You guys are off to a good start! I love all of the pieces so far.

To the writer of the script --

Did you replay the game and re-write the script? It's scene for scene. That had to take... quite some time.

The problem with re-writing something so intricate is including all of the stuff that's so good. You have to dig it all out and redo it, because going from beginning to end isn't going to work. That's just a writing tip, no offense meant.

IF you ever want to talk about it, you can IM me at: PLNNOCHLO

I'm always on.

Keep up the good work everyone!

[Sleepy Emp]

Ok, here's my wip. I hope I'll be able to finish it by November, 5 :D Thank you.

CT Movie Soundtrack - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2569)

Cool! I like where it's going towards the end of the song (actually going into the theme that the audition is on). Only suggestion I really have is to improve the mixing. Other than that, very peppy and clean.

What did you use for the brass?

Thanks. I used SAM brass, can be found here: http://www.projectsam.com

[Bob Thee Avenger]

As far as making a movie soundtrack, (which I think is an awesome idea), you have to consider Spekkosaurus (Steffan Andrews). Unfortunately, his personal web site seems to be down now, but you can see his work in the piece 'The Trial in Concert'. I am a fan of piano music for some circumstances because it can set a mood so well, which is especially important for a movie. I am speaking for myself here, but I think that Spekkosaurus would be perfect for this team, and I absolutely love the piano work that he shows off in the Trial, which is from Chrono Trigger coincidently.

That's my two cent's worth.

And I don't think you should count it out because it includes a piano, but rather, it should be given extra consideration because of the power that Spekkosaurus put into the piece with only a single classical instrument.

Just something to think about.



The song of which I speak:
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00800

[mv]

damn, i always hear about those projects so late.. i might try something, but that'll be hard since i have so much music to make nowadays.

[Sleepy Emp]

damn, i always hear about those projects so late.. i might try something, but that'll be hard since i have so much music to make nowadays.

I hope you'll be able to join the project, mv. You can do great stuff with just seven notes :)

[tgfoo]

Ok, here's my wip. I hope I'll be able to finish it by November, 5 :D Thank you.

CT Movie Soundtrack - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2569)

Cool! I like where it's going towards the end of the song (actually going into the theme that the audition is on). Only suggestion I really have is to improve the mixing. Other than that, very peppy and clean.

What did you use for the brass?

Thanks. I used SAM brass, can be found here: http://www.projectsam.com

What other libraries did you use? I figured pretty much everyone would be using soundfonts.

[Khid]

As far as making a movie soundtrack, (which I think is an awesome idea), you have to consider Spekkosaurus (Steffan Andrews). Unfortunately, his personal web site seems to be down now, but you can see his work in the piece 'The Trial in Concert'. I am a fan of piano music for some circumstances because it can set a mood so well, which is especially important for a movie. I am speaking for myself here, but I think that Spekkosaurus would be perfect for this team, and I absolutely love the piano work that he shows off in the Trial, which is from Chrono Trigger coincidently.

That's my two cent's worth.

And I don't think you should count it out because it includes a piano, but rather, it should be given extra consideration because of the power that Spekkosaurus put into the piece with only a single classical instrument.

Just something to think about.



The song of which I speak:
http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00800

I totally agree with this. Even if it is premade, that is a very good choice. The piano is perfect and, if there really was a movie to be made, it'd be an excellent addition for a real soundtrack.

[Sleepy Emp]

Ok, here's my wip. I hope I'll be able to finish it by November, 5 :D Thank you.

CT Movie Soundtrack - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2569)

Cool! I like where it's going towards the end of the song (actually going into the theme that the audition is on). Only suggestion I really have is to improve the mixing. Other than that, very peppy and clean.

What did you use for the brass?

Thanks. I used SAM brass, can be found here: http://www.projectsam.com

What other libraries did you use? I figured pretty much everyone would be using soundfonts.

Squidfont plus Fluid, Realfont GM sets and various single-instrument soundfonts from Hammersound. I cannot use gigasamples, so I converted those demo sets to simple samples as well.

[SilentMartyr]

Hello,
I love what you guys are doing with the music, its really great stuff. I do however would like to talk about the script, but I dont want to clutter up this topic with what I have to say about it. Is there another topic that is for the script?

[sephfire]

BTW, to anyone who missed it, Claado (the guy who started this whole thing) is out of touch until thursday or friday for some reason I forgot. So don't expect any replies from him til then,

[Froyst]

I'm not trying to troll, but...I think you're pretty full of yourself. Expecting people to take several days of effort and time out of their lives to put together movie-quality orchestral remixes for a movie that's not even being made. Especially about a video game that has already been made. Quite excellently I might add. Not to mention taking out several important characters. Excuse me, but weren't Ayla and Robo just sliiiightly pertinent to the storyline? Did you even take them to 65,000,000 BC and 2300 AD? I didn't even read the script or any of the other literature because I personally thought the audacity of the entire project was appalling. Why would you want to take a wonderful, ageless masterpiece like Chrono Trigger and try to 're-do' it into a separate form like a movie. We all know movies based on video games are looked SO well upon and are SO accurate to the video games by the time they're finished, but that's beside my point. This would be like taking the Mona Lisa, painting over her arms because they "took up space" and asked people for money for the project consisting of you never expecting to paint it. With spray cans. On the side of a train car. Using only your feet and an umbrella. I just don't get it.

EDIT/NOTE: The music is great, I'd honestly love to hear all of it. I'm not bashing the music, I'm honestly not trying to bash anybody, just try to figure out what the point is and give my two cents on the project.

[SilentMartyr]

Thnx for the update Seph, I didnt see that. But do you know if there is a separate topic for just the script? There are a lot of things I want to ask him about and I dont want to do it in the auditions topic. Oh and BTW Froyst, making a movie about the game is a great idea, as long as it is done right. The storyline is so amazing it is a shame to have it limited to only people who like to play video games.

[DarkeSword]

I'm not trying to troll, but...I think you're pretty full of yourself.

Tried, and failed!

Expecting people to take several days of effort and time out of their lives to put together movie-quality orchestral remixes for a movie that's not even being made.

Yeah I mean, it's not like remixing is fun or anything. :roll:

Look buddy; we're remixers; we don't take time out of life to remix; remixing IS life. :P

Especially about a video game that has already been made. Quite excellently I might add. Not to mention taking out several important characters. Excuse me, but weren't Ayla and Robo just sliiiightly pertinent to the storyline? Did you even take them to 65,000,000 BC and 2300 AD? I didn't even read the script

Read the script.

or any of the other literature because I personally thought the audacity of the entire project was appalling. Why would you want to take a wonderful, ageless masterpiece like Chrono Trigger and try to 're-do' it into a separate form like a movie.

For fun.

We all know movies based on video games are looked SO well upon and are SO accurate to the video games by the time they're finished, but that's beside my point.

Yeah, especially since this movie is being made! :(

This would be like taking the Mona Lisa, painting over her arms because they "took up space" and asked people for money for the project consisting of you never expecting to paint it. With spray cans. On the side of a train car. Using only your feet and an umbrella. I just don't get it.

No, it's not. It's adapting and intpreting a story to another medium, and making it WORK in said medium.[/quote]

EDIT/NOTE: The music is great, I'd honestly love to hear all of it. I'm not bashing the music, I'm honestly not trying to bash anybody, just try to figure out what the point is and give my two cents on the project.

Could have fooled me. Here's the point of the project:

CHRONO TRIGGER REMIXES

[Tyler Heath]

Man, Darke - you beat me to it. :D

However, I would add that anyone participating is a volunteer, and I'm pretty sure I haven't heard anything about money going in any direction. To reiterate what Darkesword said, remixing isn't something that you view as putting time and effort into. It's something you do because you enjoy doing it.

At least, I am. Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about?

Speaking of this project: any more WIP's/final versions out?

[Zeality]

Dudes, I'll sum it all up with this prophetic statement:

I like Chrono Trigger

http://www.herograw.com/ocremix/Zeality/OCR/what%2520in%2520the%2520hell.jpg

LIES YOU SAY

[sephfire]

Yeah, Darke got it all right. Claado isn't twisting the collective arm of the OCR community for this. We're participating because we enjoy doing this, because we want to show our appreciation for the remixed game, and because we want to create something that we can share with others (hmm, kinda like with everything else we remix... 8O ).

To anyone else who wants to whine about removed characters and scenes, Darke (again) said it best. Things have to change between different media in order to be effective within that media. You may remember the Lord of the Rings films?

Our work here is a tribute to the source material, not a plot to destroy all that you hold dear about Chrono Trigger.

(and no, nothing new on my WIP since this weekend)

[SilentMartyr]

Will No one answer my question?!? (cries in corner)

[tgfoo]

Will No one answer my question?!? (cries in corner)

Nope, this is the only thread concerning this.

[Froyst]

I'm not trying to troll, but...I think you're pretty full of yourself.

Tried, and failed!

Expecting people to take several days of effort and time out of their lives to put together movie-quality orchestral remixes for a movie that's not even being made.

Yeah I mean, it's not like remixing is fun or anything. :roll:

Look buddy; we're remixers; we don't take time out of life to remix; remixing IS life. :P

Especially about a video game that has already been made. Quite excellently I might add. Not to mention taking out several important characters. Excuse me, but weren't Ayla and Robo just sliiiightly pertinent to the storyline? Did you even take them to 65,000,000 BC and 2300 AD? I didn't even read the script

Read the script.

or any of the other literature because I personally thought the audacity of the entire project was appalling. Why would you want to take a wonderful, ageless masterpiece like Chrono Trigger and try to 're-do' it into a separate form like a movie.

For fun.

We all know movies based on video games are looked SO well upon and are SO accurate to the video games by the time they're finished, but that's beside my point.

Yeah, especially since this movie is being made! :(

This would be like taking the Mona Lisa, painting over her arms because they "took up space" and asked people for money for the project consisting of you never expecting to paint it. With spray cans. On the side of a train car. Using only your feet and an umbrella. I just don't get it.

No, it's not. It's adapting and intpreting a story to another medium, and making it WORK in said medium.

EDIT/NOTE: The music is great, I'd honestly love to hear all of it. I'm not bashing the music, I'm honestly not trying to bash anybody, just try to figure out what the point is and give my two cents on the project.

Could have fooled me. Here's the point of the project:

CHRONO TRIGGER REMIXES[/quote]

I've delt with assholes like you who try to bend people's words into something they're not, and if you would read my [censored] post you would see that I'm not trying to be abusive (unlike you) and trying to find out what's going on behind this damn project, but you come and deface me and call me a troll after CLEARLY STATING that I wasn't trying to hurt anybody. I spent several hours trying to peice together this damn post so I would get to understand what's going on and not be entirely offensive and you tore into me like it said 'omg lame stfu! u sux!111!!'. I thank you for the KIND answer, MR. POST-SUBJECT-CREATOR, even though it doesn't really answer any of my questions, but it was atleast better than the slanderous, abusive filth some people have set to mental (underline on the MENTAL) auto-reply when somebody tries to ask a few simple questions.

[DarkeSword]

Saying someone is full of himself is an insult, so right away, you started off on the wrong foot.

Then, you showed no real understanding of our community when you made the comment about people taking time out of their lives to remix. Remixing is what we do here. Making symphonic remixes of Chrono Trigger music is a challege that a lot of us will have FUN with. Why do you think contests like IMC and PRC are so popular? People have fun remixing, and they learn a lot.

Then, you criticize the script, but follow that immediately up with 'I didn't even read the script.' I don't care if you found the 'audacity of the entire project...appalling.' If you're going to criticize Claadou's script, at least read it. He spent more time writing the script than you did writing your post. :P

Then you talk about how movies based on video games always end up sucking, but Claadou has stated many times that this movie isn't even being made. The script is there for his own enjoyment, and its there as a framework to base our project on.

Then you make a totally irrelevant comparison to defacing the Mona Lisa, which makes no sense. We're not going back in time and defecating in all of the CT cartridges here.

When you adapt a story from one medium to another, changes must be made, otherwise you get something very lackluster.

If you were trying to be unoffensive, you did a poor job of it. You said Claadou was full of himself, demonstrated little understanding of what this community is about, criticized the script without even reading it, and then accused us of disrespecting the source material.

Just putting a little disclaimer at the end of your post doesn't cut it, when your entire post is filled with stuff like that.

Sorry if you think I'm an asshole, but maybe you should have thought more about what you said and how you said it before you posted.

[SirRus]

Darke hasn't had a good PWNAGE since page 2 of this thread. It's about time.

Shariq: 2
n00bs: 0

[sephfire]

I've delt with assholes like you who try to bend people's words into something they're not, and if you would read my [censored] post you would see that I'm not trying to be abusive (unlike you) and trying to find out what's going on behind this damn project, but you come and deface me and call me a troll after CLEARLY STATING that I wasn't trying to hurt anybody. I spent several hours trying to peice together this damn post so I would get to understand what's going on and not be entirely offensive and you tore into me like it said 'omg lame stfu! u sux!111!!'. I thank you for the KIND answer, MR. POST-SUBJECT-CREATOR, even though it doesn't really answer any of my questions, but it was atleast better than the slanderous, abusive filth some people have set to mental (underline on the MENTAL) auto-reply when somebody tries to ask a few simple questions.

Yeah, still siding with Darke. :?

On a third reading of your original post, I was able to find only one "simple question:" ...
Why would you want to take a wonderful, ageless masterpiece like Chrono Trigger and try to 're-do' it into a separate form like a movie.

I believe we've answered that question several times in several ways:
For fun.
To reiterate what Darkesword said, remixing isn't something that you view as putting time and effort into. It's something you do because you enjoy doing it.
I like Chrono Trigger
We're participating because we enjoy doing this, because we want to show our appreciation for the remixed game, and because we want to create something that we can share with others

So hopefully that question has been taken care of.

I've not read any replies that were any more slanderous or abusive than your original post. You questioned the motives of the script author without reading the script. You want to know what's behind this "damn project" although you've made it pretty clear how little you think of it.

Then we defend ourselves and our intentions, which you interpret as "abuse."

Please, someone dispute me if you disagree, but I am yet to find a response in anyone's post that is so abusive as you say.


If you do have questions that we haven't yet answered, please ask so we can try to answer and clear up any misunderstanding.

[Claado Shou]

Uh...I'm back?

Wow, guys. This is...amazing. Almost makes me want to cry. Except for you, Froyst (one too many "Y"'s in your name, eh?).

Anyway, about the mixes: Emperor, yours is SUPERB. Very coooool, very nice brass. It's another Gotham Symphony in the making.

Also, sephfire...man oh man, is this getting super freaking sweet. I love the native percussion, and the dark undertones near the end. Reminds me a lot of "Flight"...you know which song I'm talking about.

And for DarkeSword...I give thee many thanks for the ass-whooping thou hast administered on my behalf. That was some awesome pwnage.

SirRus, I'm quite glad to hear you're interested in the project. That pleases me greatly.

Also, I'm sorry, CTcronoboy (mouthful, ain't it?) but there is no thread specifically for the script. Clutter this one up if you like. More posts = more pages = more likely to be a site project. So be wordy.

((As a little piece of dessert for you all, I have another game-to-movie script I'll be writing very soon [i.e. tomorrow] that will hopefully give you all something else to read in your spare time. No project based on it, promise...but I won't tell you what it is, either, so you'll just have to wait and see.))

((No, it's not Chrono Cross.))

And for everybody that was interested in what exactly the family problem was, my grandmother had a heart attack. After having two blockages cleared and being in the hospital for five days, she went back home and is as fit as a somewhat-rusty whistle. No offense to my grandmother or anything.

A special word to Froyst: if you don't want to read the script, then at least read the rest of the thread and you'll see that a lot of your concerns have been dealt with. Ayla and Robo? Script, OST, but no movie? All addressed.

[Claado Shou]

Just a reminder...the audition stage ends in one week, on November 5. So if you're planning on helping out and being a part of this project, then the time to do something is now. No pressure, right?

~.C.S.~

[sephfire]

I be done. :)

Well, mostly done anyway. I ended up overshooting the time limit by about 30 seconds. And there's probably some polishing that I could do on mastering and maybe tweeking a few "muddy" parts. But this is pretty much it. ^^

Inciting Incident (http://www.finalfantasy7.info/inciting_incident.mp3)


Hope you enjoy. :D

(Oh and Claado, I'm pretty sure none of the samples I used are eligible for our "shared" kit. Except for some percussion, all sounds came from Reason's Orkester sound bank)[/url]

[Claado Shou]

That's alright, sephfire...I'm thinking about getting rid of that limitation anyway, to make for a more quality-driven ST. So yeah, this is great stuff. Still love those drums. Very Halo in the middle.

Also, for trimming up, at around 3:01, you have a perfect opportunity for a slow violin fadeout. As long as it's less than 3:10, you're alright.

[sephfire]

Well I'm certainly not against the group sample kit. I'm sure there is better stuff out there than what I'm using. I'm sure I can do as well or better with other sounds. And I still agree with your original reasoning for using a shared sample bank. As cool as this project CD will probably sound, it'd really add something if all our work sounded like it was performed by one "orchestra."


But in the end, I think it's gonna sound sweet no matter how this thing is organized, so it really doesn't matter to me. Can't wait to hear what everyone else turns in. :)

[Claado Shou]

Well, honestly, the reason I'm thinking about changing it is because one particularly big-named remixer won't participate unless they can use the samples they're familiar with, and I'm willing to sacrifice that tiny part in order to get their cooperation. If they still won't join, then the rules stay as they are: one sample set.

Also, if you think about it, if the actual movie ever gets made, there will be plenty of time for a single remixer to go back and recreate every mix with a single soundfont in order to achieve the most perfect sound. That's a far-off possibility at the best, but it's enough to change my mind should the need arise.

[Rellik]

Hey, Claado.

If I don't finish my audition entry, am I eliminated from the project? It's not like I enjoy putting you the position of having to choose, but I'm not sure I feel like working on this audition piece anymore. It's basically as simple as that; been having computer problems, have had/will have tons of work (although I doubt it will be as bad as it has been in the future), it doesn't please me to work on my entry, so if I don't have to, I won't. So tell me :P

Anyway, glad to hear your grandma is fine.

[Claado Shou]

Hey, Claado.

If I don't finish my audition entry, am I eliminated from the project? It's not like I enjoy putting you the position of having to choose, but I'm not sure I feel like working on this audition piece anymore. It's basically as simple as that; been having computer problems, have had/will have tons of work (although I doubt it will be as bad as it has been in the future), it doesn't please me to work on my entry, so if I don't have to, I won't. So tell me :P

Anyway, glad to hear your grandma is fine.

Aw, man. This just keeps getting stickier. Well...

...

...

...

...You're alright. I've heard your other stuff, and I know that your orchestral skills are up-to-par. Besides, with the stuff you've already shown me, I'm pretty sure you'll work out just fine. 8)

I just hope that you don't lose the desire to remix when you're in the middle of doing a piece for the ST. That would be very bad.

[Blake]

Here's my crappy WIP that i haven't worked onf or a week:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/blizihizakemusic.htm

The top song on the songlist. I'm gonnna redo it though, since I just formatted my comp and I'm reinstalling my crap, and I didn't really like what I came up with.

[Claado Shou]

This is very cool, blizihizake. Very cool indeed. I love your use of percussion and the triangle. I can very much imagine this being a longer, very awesome intro song.

[sephfire]

I like a lot of the percussion elements in that clip, bliz. I really like the drum kit Unknown used too. Where did you guys find the samples?

And BTW, does anyone have suggestions for cleaning up my audition piece? I figure I've gone to this much trouble, might as well polish it up a bit.

[SirRus]

seph - sorry I don't have anything specific right now to critique on your song (I have to run, maybe later) but I wanted to say I did enjoy it, as well as the traditional sephire tribal percussion (I can never get enough of them b33tz) I will be using Reason's Orkestor bank as well, I hope Claado decides to change the requirement for the same, free sound library, because I think that would definitely drop the quality level of a lot of these songs (wondering if Unknowns was all free soundfonts? If so, good God. Otherwise, I'm curious in general what sounds Tyler uses - those ethnic percussion instruments are awesome)

Bliz! I'm loving it! Very deep and moving piece so far, even for as short as it is. It's going to be wonderful, keep up the good work buddy.

[sephfire]

While we're on the subject (kinda), can anyone recommend a really good resource of high-quality orchestra samples (doesn't have to be free). I'd like to expand my sample library a bit and I'm interested to hear what you guys use/recommend.

[Rellik]

Hey, Claado.

If I don't finish my audition entry, am I eliminated from the project? It's not like I enjoy putting you the position of having to choose, but I'm not sure I feel like working on this audition piece anymore. It's basically as simple as that; been having computer problems, have had/will have tons of work (although I doubt it will be as bad as it has been in the future), it doesn't please me to work on my entry, so if I don't have to, I won't. So tell me :P

Anyway, glad to hear your grandma is fine.

Aw, man. This just keeps getting stickier. Well...

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...

...

...You're alright. I've heard your other stuff, and I know that your orchestral skills are up-to-par. Besides, with the stuff you've already shown me, I'm pretty sure you'll work out just fine. 8)

I just hope that you don't lose the desire to remix when you're in the middle of doing a piece for the ST. That would be very bad.

I don't just lose my desire to mix when it's my RESPONSIBILITY to mix. Even if I do, I'll do it. But if I don't have to do something I don't want to do, there's a pretty good chance I won't do it. Thanks for the prompt reply.

[Sleepy Emp]

Update:

Chrono Trigger Movie ST - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/download?2569)

[Blake]

Update:

Chrono Trigger Movie ST - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/download?2569)

I like. The chords are of the original, and this song still gave me the tingle of the original. This is a pretty awesome WIP.

Edit: JESUS, awesome interpretaiton of Frog's theme. Hell, good job on the whole thing. Are these all free samples?

[SirRus]

wow yeah Frog's theme is very moving and eloquent in your song Emperor, and I think the Magus descending progression was simply badass. Only thing is I feel like you used a lot of themes that weren't part of the 2 songs required to be mixed. Don't get me wrong I thoroughly enjoyed your song, just not sure if Claado will be receptive to the allusions to the character themes within the opening piece? I dunno I still contend they are badass and the fact that you pulled it off I give you major props. Also we have the same brass section (the Sam's free demos, muhaha, they are wonderful - bliz you can go back a few pages and Emperor put up a link to the website... I dont know how he converted them to soundfonts since they only come in giga, but perhaps he can enlighten us on the process).

So yeah sorry Claado I was busy all last week with midterms, and I still have one left this week, but I was able to start working on my WIP last night (I kept justifying staying up late due to daylight savings). I ended up falling asleep while waiting for my project to load after my computer crashed, and then kinda gave up and went to bed when I woke up dazed and confused at my keyboard.

Alright enough rambling, it's only a short preview like bliz's (little less than a minute) but thought I would show that I am trying to get an audition piece done on time:

Beginning of the End (http://students.ou.edu/S/Ravi.U.Sharma-1/SirRusCT.mp3)

[sephfire]

So, that's like 7 known remixers who have posted audition pieces/WIPs....

remixers = 7+
predicted track number = 25


8O
*twitch* ....


EDIT:
BTW SirRus, love the ambience your WIP opens with. Very nice. ^^

[Claado Shou]

SirRus...fuh-reakin' awesome. Love the strings, man.

Also, about Emperor's updated piece and the usage of other source tunes...my original stance was that the only reused song would be "Far-Off Promise", but since in this form it isn't immediately reconcilable for strangers to the OST as Frog's Theme, and since it will probably be a different style in the other song to use Frog's Theme...dat's aight.

So yeah, both wonderful pieces. Emperor = accepted, and SirRus = well on his way.

P.S. I realize that we have a shortage of remixers, but I think that as long as we don't rush the project and allow everything to happen naturally, we can seriously get this all done, or at least enough done to make other people want to help with the rest. I hope.

~.C.S.~

[Sleepy Emp]

JESUS, awesome interpretaiton of Frog's theme. Hell, good job on the whole thing. Are these all free samples?

Glad you liked it. As SirRus said, those are SAM demo brass samples, available at http://www.projectsam.com

I dont know how he converted them to soundfonts since they only come in giga, but perhaps he can enlighten us on the process

Using Awave Studio I extracted simple .wav files from those gigasamples and then converted them to the format of instruments I used (namely .it)

[Blake]

wow yeah Frog's theme is very moving and eloquent in your song Emperor, and I think the Magus descending progression was simply badass. Only thing is I feel like you used a lot of themes that weren't part of the 2 songs required to be mixed. Don't get me wrong I thoroughly enjoyed your song, just not sure if Claado will be receptive to the allusions to the character themes within the opening piece? I dunno I still contend they are badass and the fact that you pulled it off I give you major props. Also we have the same brass section (the Sam's free demos, muhaha, they are wonderful - bliz you can go back a few pages and Emperor put up a link to the website... I dont know how he converted them to soundfonts since they only come in giga, but perhaps he can enlighten us on the process).

So yeah sorry Claado I was busy all last week with midterms, and I still have one left this week, but I was able to start working on my WIP last night (I kept justifying staying up late due to daylight savings). I ended up falling asleep while waiting for my project to load after my computer crashed, and then kinda gave up and went to bed when I woke up dazed and confused at my keyboard.

Alright enough rambling, it's only a short preview like bliz's (little less than a minute) but thought I would show that I am trying to get an audition piece done on time:

Beginning of the End (http://students.ou.edu/S/Ravi.U.Sharma-1/SirRusCT.mp3)

Wow, this is awesome. I can totally see this being an opener. Like a helicopter cam running across a vast mountain range and slowly zooming in to the plaza where Chrono's house and stuff are located, and the title "Chrono Trigger" in like a Passion of the Christ font.

[Sleepy Emp]

SirRus - Beginning of the End
Nice intro. I can hear hints of the "Presentiment" track and a soft trumpet lead into the main section.

sephfire - Inciting Incident
Cool drumwork. I like your string stabs and woodwinds. The section after 2:28 is my favourite.

blizihizake - Nostalgiac Interference
Great strings and woodwinds. Interesting asian-style composition.

Unknown - Predetermination
Nice "battle theme" atmosphere. I love those tempo changes and your harmonies.

Rellik - Untitled
Cool tempo change as well, and a nice catchy major chord at the end of the main theme progression :)


PS. Is it just me, or does the CT main theme sound exactly like Terminator theme?...

[RoeTaKa]

In a way it does kinda sound like the Terminator theme.

SirRus where do you get your samples? I mean I'd love to participate but come on do you think Squidfont on it's own could just compete :wink: haha I could always try. Really not too sure yet we'll see how my free time opens up.

[SirRus]

sephfire - glad you liked the opening ambience on my song, I think I spent more time on that part then the drum programming etc. that comes on the beginning of the more upbeat section

Claado - on my way to getting accepted eh? Awesome. Oyeah, you put my song as "Untitled" on the front page. Granted I spent no longer than 1 minute coming up with the title "Beginning of the End" but I wasnt sure if you put Untitled because you didn't see that title or if you just thought it sucked. Cause either way I totally understand, heh. Speaking of which, do we have claim to titling the songs on the album or will you be going back anyway and changing the names to suit the themes etc yourself. Personally, I suck at naming songs, but I try to give them appropriate ones even if they aren't the best. Anyway, just wondering...

Emperor - thanks for clearing up how you use the Sams demos without giga, always a good trick to know even though I can open the files as is

Bliz - haha nice description there, I didn't even see all that but its nice to hear what images are evoked in your mind. Also I forgot to mention that the intro to your WIP reminds me of Jared Hudson's "Chu Chu's Flight" (Xenogears).. yeah thats some pretty sweet Asian style you got there.

Roe - the brass Emperor and I are using is free from the website he linked to a few pages back in this thread. He also explained how to extract wav files from them above. Squidfont is good for strings and then I would combine them with the Sams brass if I were you. But honestly I think arrangement quality will be the biggest factor here, as I have heard several good orchestral songs being made with free soundfonts, and I think you have the skills to pull it off so don't worry too much. Since you asked, I use Reasons Orkester soundbank, just like sephfire.

EDIT - changed 2 instances of "sephire" to "sephfire," sorry bud. Also, keep us updated on your thoughts on the high quality orchestral libraries out there, although I probably won't be able to afford it at this time, I always like to know what is worth the money.

[sephfire]

Everyone who has posted a WIP has done some nice work so far.

If we DO end up using whatever samples we want on an individual basis, I'm hunting down some new stuff. I don't really know how Orkester ranks in quality samples, but I've been moving closer to orchestra in my remixing style anyway, so it's a pretty good time to pick me up some really nice material to work with.

Claado: Well so long as you aren't setting a Dec. 1st release date, then any amount of remixers we can gather should be enough to handle the job.

[Claado Shou]

Claado - you put my song as "Untitled" on the front page. Granted I spent no longer than 1 minute coming up with the title "Beginning of the End" but I wasnt sure if you put Untitled because you didn't see that title or if you just thought it sucked. Cause either way I totally understand, heh.

Oops...didn't double-check. Lemme fix that.

(It's a good name, by the way.)

And in regards to titling, all titles are the choice of the mixers, unless they're really off-course. If the Magus battle song is called "Little Bunny Fight-Fight", then something's gotta go.

[Sleepy Emp]

SirRus where do you get your samples? I mean I'd love to participate but come on do you think Squidfont on it's own could just compete :wink: haha I could always try. Really not too sure yet we'll see how my free time opens up.

As SirRus said, you could easily combine Squidfont with Sam brass for a nice sound. Take my mix for example - that's Squidfont + Fluid sf + Vienna strings + Sam brass.

[Claado Shou]

Five days (including today) left, you guys. I've got seven people accepted so far, with a few more in the WIP process, so don't be afraid to post your progress here.

Remember, November 5th.

[Blake]

Ok, here's my wip. I hope I'll be able to finish it by November, 5 :D Thank you.

CT Movie Soundtrack - The Story Begins (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2569)

Cool! I like where it's going towards the end of the song (actually going into the theme that the audition is on). Only suggestion I really have is to improve the mixing. Other than that, very peppy and clean.

What did you use for the brass?

Thanks. I used SAM brass, can be found here: http://www.projectsam.com

What other libraries did you use? I figured pretty much everyone would be using soundfonts.

Squidfont plus Fluid, Realfont GM sets and various single-instrument soundfonts from Hammersound. I cannot use gigasamples, so I converted those demo sets to simple samples as well.

Ohman, these samples are wonderful. 8O

[SirRus]

Just got an assload of school work dumped on me today - God I hate Mondays. It's going to be a close one for me, like probably literally the last minute, if even that. Regardless, I am going to enjoy this project whether I am a part of its production or just listening to the final product and observing its progress. But here's hoping I pull my shit together this week...

[ellywu2]

Hi, sorry i'm a little late, do you need remixers still?

[Claado Shou]

Hi, sorry i'm a little late, do you need remixers still?

In typical judge fashion,

YES

[sephfire]

sweet. now ellywu? this project is gonna friggin own. 8)

[RoeTaKa]

Sir and Emperor, I really don't get the extracting of the SAM brass files. I could really do with those cause even if it's like only 3 days away I reckon I could come up with a decent 3 minute theme remix. It would be great if you could send over AIM, but I don't wanna bother you because I'm probably being way over the line.

[SirRus]

hey Roe, I have not tried to extract the wav files from the Sam gigas since I can open them as is. Hopefully Emperor can help you out some more to figure that out, or it seems Bliz has found a way to use them on FLStudio, as he made a comment of how he loves the Sams samples not too long ago, so perhaps he can talk to you about it too. Sorry I haven't experimented with the extraction process Emperor described earlier. Hope you get that figured out, but even without the Sams brass good orchestral songs can be made with free soundfonts - Unknown uses free soundfonts from what I hear, and you can listen to his song on the first page of this thread - IMO one of the best CT main theme remixes out there. Good luck buddy.

[Claado Shou]

sweet. now ellywu? this project is gonna friggin own. 8)

As if it didn't already. 8)

[ellywu2]

Lol, thanks for the vote of confidence, but looking at the roster i'm kind of intimidated :P

anyways, heres an idea for the ending of my audition piece, literally just about an hours work but hey.

http://www.soundclick.com/util/DownloadSong.cfm?ID=1747049

If soundclick gives you jip, its the song called 'Chrono Trigger Piece'

[Claado Shou]

From what I hear in your piece, you're the one who's intimidating, dude.

This is awesome. Your string work is phenomenal. This is the perfect way to begin a movie.

Just make this 3:00 long (2:50-3:10, somewhere in that range) and you're in.

[Electronic Samurai]

Sephfire -

I have listened to probably a thousand orchestral songs, and probably over a hundred OverClocked orchestral arrangements. Suffice to say, I have listened to a lot of music. Very few arrangements impact me on any emotional level, and those that do I find truly expectional in quality and performance. The Chrono Trigger game has always provided tremendous benchmarks in orchestral pieces.

Of these, only a few have actually moved me to tears as I listened to the tunes that evoked memories of this great, timeless game. Your arrangement 'Inciting Incident' was one, as was Spekkiosaurus's 'The Trial In Concert', DarkeSworde's 'Blue Skies over Guardia', and Unknown and Zyko's 'When All Hope Has Faded'.

Thank you for making this song.

[SirRus]

Dayyyymn Seph - you got the Musicians Ultimate Compliment©

CT Movie Project - bringing tears of joy to the eyes of CT fanboys everywhere.

Presidential Election arghhhh.

[Claado Shou]

Yeah, sephfire...that was pretty amazing for a fan to say that, don't you think?

CT Movie Project - bringing tears of joy to the eyes of CT fanboys everywhere.

Not fanboys. Just...fans.

[none]

I have note read anything past the first pagee, so maybe this has been brought up before, but dont they usually make a movie first, and then put music in it? You know, so it actually has context?

[Zeality]

Yeah, CT fanboys are the

OMG CHRONO KROSS SUX

FUK U MAGUS RULZ OMG I LUV CT, ITS BETTAR THEN FF7

type. I'm not a fanboy, and that's saying a lot...for me.

[Claado Shou]

I have note read anything past the first pagee, so maybe this has been brought up before, but dont they usually make a movie first, and then put music in it? You know, so it actually has context?

It does have context. The script. However the script is interpreted is up to the remixer, which makes this a truly fan-driven project...everything is individually subjective.

[Silvercloud]

Before I go off on my tangent that will might very well earn me the title of "troll", I would like to make clear my opinions on this remixing project:

There is never needed an excuse to remix videogame music, or to create art of any form for that matter, if one wants to do it, that's reason enough. The fact that the community has put some of their best and most talented remixers into this project is reason only for celebration. The direction of the project, namely a theatrical arrangement of music from Chrono Trigger is in my humble opinion vastly overdue. I applaud the vision that moved Claado Shou into asking for the time and effort of these fine gentlemen and ladies for their help. I am myself eagerly awaiting the fruits of the collective labour and have eagerly set aside a blank CD to burn what will hopefully a definitive orchestral remix of a classic of video game music composition. I don't have a problem in any way related to the remixes currently in progress, I do not feel it in my realm of expertise to critique what is being done- I am no remixer, no musician and certainly my taste is unique that I do not normally step in to make comments on music, save for joyous praise on the occasion when a mix has profoundly stirred me. To re-iterate: What will follow and what has already been said does not in any way reflect a desire for this project to cease, go forth and create! I look forward to it.

No, what moves me to write line; taking myself from lurker to flamebait material is quite bluntly the laughable assertions made by Claado Shou on the quality of his script. That he would type
...put to exacting standards.
and
...the script (http://www.trenzhost.com/files/Claado%20Shou/CT%20Movie%20Script.rtf) is, without ego, top-notch.

had me laughing until I noticed that it had reached 13 pages, which surely puts it outside of the realm of a practical joke. Delusion is always hard to dispel when it's bearer is convinced of his/her grasp on reality, and why should Claado Shou not be, when he's (forgive me if Claado's a she) "[had] three years of screenwriting credit and classes under my belt, so this [writing a screen-play] is not unfamiliar territory..."
While I do respect Claado for actually finishing this script, something that I certainly have not done (that is, write a Crono Trigger screenplay), I find the high opinion of it baffling, because I'm sure he knows that good screenplays usually don't get written in a month. And for those of you who might be wondering, at the end of all this, if he had asked for help- I would have offered it.

To hold this script to any sort of measure begs the question of whether or not it was meant to be reviewed on such a level. To put it another way, there is an immediate irony with someone such as myself taking a text file found on the internet and holding it standards of the "real world", namely Hollywood (Or any other market, for that matter), and then discerning if it's Hollywood "quality". (Which is all too-often an oxymoron, but that's a whole different discussion.) But I find it desirous to pass on my opinion when I see a fellow writer actually displaying hope that perhaps, perhaps his script will get picked up "by the right people" and filmed as a movie. To which I say, not this script, not ever. I know that I don't even need to point this out, that time itself would surely teach vain hope's lesson. But I hate to wait. Let's start, shall we?

(Now, it's important to note that while reading the script/screenplay, I act like this is the first time I've encountered the storyline, so a lot of the criticism is poking at the parts of the story that are not explained in even a rudimentary way to the audience, we can't assume they've all played the game.)

First off, after reading the script, what appears first as an atrocious flaw is the pacing of this 'treatment'; practically no effort was made to keep a sane level of rhythm during this story. The whole script is Chrono Trigger in fast-forward with the vast majority of battles stripped out, leaving us with literally the key plot advancements all back to back- this ends up killing the story on by it's own nature- minutes, mere minutes after the 'group' are passed through the portal for the first time, they are informed of the impending doom of Lavos. It was not even seen fit to have another character written in to explain the entire crisis of the story! It heightens the already fragile storytelling to have Crono hop through a portal, save Marle from a couple of machines, then have Lucca join and just after read a PC that says, in effect: "Hey, you guys are all going to die. KTHXBAI" No credence is given to the fact they are time-traveling, the key introductory themes of cause and effect are skipped over as if unnecessary, we have the entire movie's crux brazenly thrust at us with a such feeble effort. Lucca, who just minutes ago hadn't known a bloody thing about "Lavos", explains: "Look...it would be best to attack the creature as far back as we can, before it's gained enough power to sustain itself. That means, the further back in time, the greater our chances." The fact that that it isn't even established that they can travel back in time only adds to the hilarity of a couple of teenagers deciding to fight a creature they've only just seen on a machine they didn't even have in their own time.

Another clumsy effort is the script - horrific in it's blind savagery of the English language. I want to share this with you all:

At the beginning of the "movie" we have Crono's Mother speak of the Millenial Fair: "It would be a shame if you missed it so you could get some sleep." An entirely awkward thing to say, even more so out of a mother's mouth- to which Crono sarcastically replies "Truly, a shame". hmm

Crono runs then to Lucca's house (Which I heartedly agree is the right move), to have her look at his (wooden?) sword and say: "Eventually, you're going to have to use that sword of yours." Wow. Thanks for that fore-shadowing. A boy with a sword, having to use it someday. I would think that the real (in a literary sense) Lucca would think Crono's sword training a waste of time, and she certainly wouldn't be speaking words of dark omen the opening day of the biggest celebration of the millennium. Not to mention that she would be completely absorbed in finishing her machine.

Crono leaves her house, with her saying "Thanks for everything. I mean it." Now this is interesting, we the audience are seeing him getting thanked, but for what? Stopping by? No, she says "everything", implying more than that. We end up having to guess what she means, because the writer certainly isn't going to tell us, now or ever- instead, we only 'hear' a comment which I suppose is present to imply some sort of meaningful friendship- nevermind that the mother can't remember her son's friend's name. (Yes, this is a classic CT gag, but it doesn't translate well at all).

Moving on, we have the one and only side-attraction of the Fair, namely a stale and contrived encounter with Melchior. Nevermind that this scene should really be saved for when Marle is with Crono (it doesn't matter since the pendant importance is completely forgotten until much later), we have some truly terrible fan-service- Melchior takes Crono's sword, breaks it in his hands, and as replacement, gives him the most powerful (and surely heaviest) sword in the game- The Rainbow. But the real humor is in the dialogue, let's take a look:

MELCHIOR
Well, good afternoon, my young lad! It seems you have an interest in swords.
CRONO
Well, you never can be too careful, especially with the world we live in.

Yes, the world we live in, as in, it's a reminder- Melchior obviously needs to be reminded of the world's state of affairs.

I often find myself stroking my .22 caliber pistol, telling others: "One can never be too careful, what with the world we live in". ;)
Let's look at the next lines:
CRONO
This is very powerful steel. Where'd you find it?

Wow. Crono is looking at a blacksmith's sword and asking, in true RPG fashion, where he found it. Ignoring the fact that Crono has lapsed into a very formal and grammatically incorrect form of speech, we see again how simple RPG concepts, well established and mostly unquestioned, would be ridiculous to see actually portrayed in cinema. Any audience would naturally assume Crono was kidding, and at this point, I kinda wish he was too.

Last bit of the scene:
Crono pulls the weapon and hands it to the man. He pores over it, examining the blade. As he tests its flexibility, it snaps apart in his hand.
MELCHIOR
Oh, would you look at that!
CRONO
You broke my sword!
MELCHIOR
It was well-made, but of poor quality.


It's lines like these that make me consider that Claado Chou is really just experimenting with the new style of net humor- drooling stupidity and not actually saying "the script is, without ego, top-notch." Let's see what more strange fruit his arrogance will bear...

We now move on to what is for me one of the most pivotal points in early-game, Crono and Marle's smashing (forgive me, I like to pun) encounter. Ignoring that Claado forgot to write in the ringing of Leene's Bell after they collide, he has them hiding at one point behind the bell itself, which doesn't make sense in this world or another- since it's hovering high in the air on arches. And it's certainly isn't that large, either- think of how we see it being constructed in a house- it's at most a meter wide- and also that it's sound is a pleasant middle-tone (cling-clang, cling-clang), not a deep "dong". (Yeah, I know, I'm real musically gifted. ;)) What I love most about this whole scene is not the fact that Crono asks if the girl is hiding from someone as they're hiding from someone, but that he asks what will soon be the immortal line of:
CRONO
Let me just ask you one question: did you escape from prison?
MARLE
No.
CRONO
Didn't think so.

Wow.Think about the ramifications of people habitually asking questions to which they already know the answer to. And even not rhetorically. What is a shame is that Crono's inner psychology is never really investigated- I would like to know what makes him ask a beautiful teenage girl if she's escaped from prison. Especially since it's Royal Guards chasing them and not Jailers.

By they way, Claado- Did you ever think you'd get a response this long?
...
Didn't think so.

Moving on, the duo find themselves now at Lucca's demonstration (completely skipping the other "amusements" might be necessary, but quite frankly, and I'm almost serious when I say this, the total exclusion of Gato is reason enough to lose faith in this 'treatment' ;)) We have some this monologue offered, a confusing mishmash of terms:
LUCCA
(speaking to crowd)
What we have here is a marvel of modern, and potentially post-modern science: a device that can instantaneously transport any object - including a HUMAN BEING - through matter itself, a distance of 5 yards, without the aid of deception or trickery.

Is it an inside joke that Lucca, who is normally so full of knowledge, doesn't have a frickin' clue as to what "post-modernism" is? (Listen, there's no shame in having a dictionary by your side when you're writing, it's a good way to improve your work) Anyways, it certainly doesn't apply to science, and that bit about transporting objects...wait- HUMAN BEINGS through matter itself is unnecessarily complicated. They might not even have atomic theory, in fact, I would bet they don't, and quantifying the distance is absolute madness when you realize that it will soon be teleporting people not in yards, but years. (Or is that a joke, too?)

Skipping ahead now, we have Marle jump through the portal, being flung into the future, and Crono jumping in after her. By how it is written, Lucca would have followed them in, too, but
one of them accidentally pulls the plug on the machine with his foot.
*Sigh* To put it mildly, I find this extremely contrived. Why not just stick with what was in the game?
After the void disappears completely, we have the Guard Captain utter the ever clichéed line of:
Alright, people, there's nothing to see here. Go back to your business!

This would be downright awesome if this movie was a comedy. People have been "torn apart" by unseen forces, teleported to who-knows-where and there's nothing to see? Oh, I get it, it's another joke.(Yes, I know that line is pretty much straight from the game itself, but it's one thing to read it, and another entirely to hear someone say it. Don't kid yourself, writing dialogue so it sounds believable is hard.
We then have a classic exchange wherein Lucca vows to restlessly find a way to rescue her friends...no, wait, what we have is this:
The guards usher the people out, as Lucca and Taban stare at the left platform. Lucca kneels down and looks at the device, as Taban rubs her shoulder.
TABAN
Honey...let's just go home for now. We'll look at it later.
LUCCA
Yeah...yeah, you're right.

"Let's just go home for now."?! Oh, I guess it's defendable because Lucca is hesitant- did you see those ellipsis points? That's going to someday translate into visible inner turmoil! Sure she's leaving her friends to whatever strange fate her machine has doled out, but at home, goddammit, there's supper! Please, don't let me be the only one to see the tattered remnants of suspended disbelief obliterated by that line.

Back to Crono, we have him being thrown out of the portal and "gawking at the incredible scenery: a room filled with blackened, dirt-covered, fire-ridden machinery and steel." Wow, I like how Claado just wrote "incredible" instead of actually showing us through imagery how incredible it is. Blackened. Dirt-covered. It's a complex vision like this that will really pay off when it gets filmed.
Then he utters:
CRONO
What the hell?

I find it in poor taste to have religious references in worlds where it isn't clear what religions are present. Some writers use "pseudo-religious" slurs that are both free from complaint from the censors, and lead weight to the idea that it's a foreign world. But often it sounds tacky (Like reading Rand from Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time Series say "Light!" under his breath for the billionth time.) But in light of any discernible religion in Crono's time (Yes, there is a cathedral, but let's not jump to conclusions), I would have him instead say something more generic. Like Samwise's "That's an eye-opener, no mistake" but more Cronoish.(Would that then be a suprised chirp?) Or keep it, it comes down to one's personal vision of what the universe is like. I myself thought it stuck out, though.

Back to Crono's time, we have this:
KING GUARDIA
Where is she? Where is Princess Nadia?
GUARDIA CAPTAIN
I do not know, sir...she disappeared.
KING GUARDIA
Disappeared? What do you mean, she disappeared?
GUARDIA CAPTAIN
Literally, sir, she disappeared. One moment she was there, and the next...[i]from what my men tell me, it was incredible and strange.

"Top-notch" indeed.
And then, this:
The King clenches his fists.
KING GUARDIA
I want her found, and returned safely to the castle. No one goes home until this is done, understood?

I like how the King of Guardia threatens his own guards not with corporeal punishment, or any real disgrace, but instead points out that yes, indeed, his orders take priority over, say, not doing them and going home. (Notice how he really must mean it, his fists are clenched!)

Back to the Arris Dome, 2300 A.D.
We have Crono run down stairs and see Marle in trouble, being attacked by two machines. Now I must admit, the choreograophy of the resulting fight is exactly what it should be, not too-complex, but still interesting. Ignoring that by now this storyline is certainly unfolding much differently than in the game, we have some very awkward dialogue between Crono and Marle, at least to me. Hey, listen: For fanfic this is very well might be stellar work (I wouldn't know, I don't read fanfiction), but as a script, I can't imagine it working well on screen. And believe me, I have a good imagination.
In the span of two "MOMENTS LATER" we have a wonderful bit of blunt exposition that starts off with:
Crono helps Marle into the room, as Lucca preps the screen.
LUCCA
This is the Command Room of the people who ran this dome prior to the destruction of this world.
CRONO
So?

I like that. It shows that Crono is callous, perfect juxtaposition for the previous scene: In which he spends much effort bandaging a wounded Marle. Or maybe it's just his pithy nature again. Can't be sure.

We then unravel for a most glorious rant in which the ultimate desire of the movie is made clear: (I'm ending it here, I have no intention of openly critiquing the entire spanse of script. It certainly doesn't recover, though.)
LUCCA
Now, somewhere during that time, a catastrophe of magnificent proportions occurred, ending all human life in this era.
She presses a large red button.
LUCCA
This footage is from September 26, 1999 A.D...a time entitled 'The Day of Lavos'.
The screen comes to life, and static fills it.
INSERT -- ON THE SCREEN, THE WORLD, GREEN AND BEAUTIFUL, IS TORN APART BY A MASSIVE BEETLE-LIKE CREATURE, SPEWING FIRE AND MAGMA EVERYWHERE. METEORS OF ROCK CRASH INTO EVERY STRUCTURE, SMOTHERING THE PLANET. FOR A FULL MINUTE, THIS FOOTAGE CONTINUES, WHILE AT THE END NOTHING REMAINS.
Crono is left in awe, while Marle is nearly to tears. Lucca has her head lowered.
CRONO
So...300 years ago, this creature, Lavos, destroyed this planet?
LUCCA
Yes.
CRONO
And he was dwelling in the planet for how long?
LUCCA
It doesn't say...but the readings indicate that there were unusual energy levels from as far back as our time...maybe even further.
MARLE
That THING is in the ground beneath our homes?
LUCCA
If the readings are correct...then yes.
A short silence ensues.
MARLE
Well, we have to do something about it!
LUCCA
What CAN we do?
MARLE
We go back to our time and we tell everybody we can about it! Then we destroy it!
LUCCA
A foolhardy plan.
CRONO
Lucca, what other choice do we have?
LUCCA
(sighs)
Look...it would be best to attack the creature as far back as we can, before it's gained enough power to sustain itself. That means, the further back in time, the greater our chances.
CRONO
How far back can you take us?
LUCCA
I don't know. I suppose we'll just have to pump the Gate with as much energy as we can and see where we go.
Marle and Crono look at each other, then back to Lucca.
CRONO
Let's do it.
INT. ARRIS DOME 2ND FLOOR - MOMENTS LATER
Lucca and the others arrive in the room, and Lucca prepares her Gate Key, as Marle and Crono wait.
Lucca adjusts the settings on the Key.
LUCCA
Alright...the power is at full, and I've reversed the charge, so we'll go back in time as far as this will take us.
CRONO
And you're sure it'll work?
LUCCA
(after a moment)
Not really.
She presses the button, and electricity courses from the Key, reopening the thin black hole in space in front of them. It gradually widens, beginning to suck them in.


Black holes don't "suck". But this script does.

[sephfire]

Dang, that's the longest post I've ever seen that wasn't a tutorial. I'll have to read it in its entirety later.

Sephfire -

I have listened to probably a thousand orchestral songs, and probably over a hundred OverClocked orchestral arrangements. Suffice to say, I have listened to a lot of music. Very few arrangements impact me on any emotional level, and those that do I find truly expectional in quality and performance. The Chrono Trigger game has always provided tremendous benchmarks in orchestral pieces.

Of these, only a few have actually moved me to tears as I listened to the tunes that evoked memories of this great, timeless game. Your arrangement 'Inciting Incident' was one, as was Spekkiosaurus's 'The Trial In Concert', DarkeSworde's 'Blue Skies over Guardia', and Unknown and Zyko's 'When All Hope Has Faded'.

Thank you for making this song.

Glad you liked it bro. And I appreciate the compliments. Those are definitely words that any musician would feel honored to hear. :)

[sephfire]

a lot

We may need Darke again for this one ... :lol:

[Claado Shou]

Wow. Uh...troll?

When I said that the script is top-notch, I meant that as a way of saying that I put the vast majority of CT's plot into slightly more than two hours' worth of script. You obviously have no idea what kind of torture that was, considering how much I adore such characters as Robo, Ayla, Ozzie, and (who can forget?) Dalton. It was a hard task that I can't (and won't) expect you to understand.

Also, when you point out dialogue such as the Crono/Melchior scene in 1000 A.D., you say that "Melchior obviously needs to be reminded of the world's state of affairs"...which is a very blatantly stupid comment, coming quite simply from somebody who's played the freaking game. The audience (should this become a movie, as I wrote it to be) will likely include many people that have never even heard of Chrono Trigger, thus meaning they have no idea what Melchior would be thinking, because we're ten seconds into the conversation, without any backstory on him at all. How elite of you.

Additionally, this is not a final draft. THIS IS NOT A FINAL DRAFT. I'm not stupid...three years of screenwriting classes has taught me that a script takes a week to write and six months to a year to edit, ESPECIALLY in terms of dialogue. Have you ever seen the first copies of the original "Star Wars" scripts? They were laughable, at best. With specific attention paid to dialogue, they became better.

Also, it's a lot easier to read something and think it's ridiculous, but when something is said, with inflection and emotion and pause and all the basic attributes of any personality, it's much more alive. Someone (you) reading the script from a pessimist's point of view would not at first conceive this...but I don't fault you for it.

In the end, I'm sorry you feel that way. But this is not a thread for people to attack the script, or the work, or anything else. The script is subject to change, and subject to interpretation. That is its nature. This thread is for people interested in helping, interested in participating (in a constructive manner, mind you), and for people who give a damn about making the OST as good as it can be. The OST is not dependent on dialogue...thus, the dialogue can suck as much as it wants (which it doesn't), as long as the action portrays what is necessary.

[Zeality]

That's top-notch raillery. I feel like I'm in the 1700s, save that I wouldn't have the patience to respond.

So here's a picture.

http://www.dimfuture.net/99/pretentious.gif

[Toadofsky]

Is anybody gonna do Zeal Palaces' music in a sort of rock like format? I'd like to hear it in a U2 format (before their new crapola they've released recently), kind of like that one song "New Year's Day" or "Where the Streets have no name" or "With or Without You". I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I accept the inevidable...

[SirRus]

PROJECT DETAILS

-The entire project (with the notable exception of the end credits theme) will be orchestral. This means, specifically, the use of only brass, woodwinds, strings, and percussion. This means, also, that synths, piano, and guitar are strictly prohibited. Think of a great classical movie ST (Lord of the Rings, The Last Samurai, King Arthur, Star Wars even) and how they use a studio-based orchestra. Exactly. We're aiming for that.

Or maybe you meant orchestral rock? That would be cool, but yeah... ^^^

[Claado Shou]

Uh...no, I meant simply orchestral. But the piano and drumkit parts of that quote are no longer valid. I have to update the first post...

That's top-notch raillery. I feel like I'm in the 1700s, save that I wouldn't have the patience to respond.

Uh...who were you talking about? Just wondering.

EDIT: I received a PM from Silvercloud and I have to correct myself on the black hole comment. Technically, Silvercloud is right: black holes don't suck. Sucking requires an act of intense pressure that pulls something. Black holes exert no pressure, but instead use massive gravitational fields to swallow up everything around them. So my apologies to Silvercloud in that regard (see, I'm not above correcting myself).

EDIT 2: I also should apologize for the earlier part of my rebuttal comment, concerning Silvercloud's site history and postcount. It's obvious through his writing and intellectual capacities that he is not some stupid n00b to be pushed aside. Just misguided.

[Kantir]

Frog's my favorite, though nobody can replace Crono's samurai swords.
I'd like to offer my whole-hearted support to making a new remix or what have you. I can hardly wait!
About the gravity and black hole, I would shout "DUH!!" in a mocking way except I never really learned anything about it myself, except the difference between pushing and pulling (I can't even remember which word gravity uses!)
Anyway, good luck with your songs.

[SirRus]

Haha o no Claado I didn't mean YOU meant orchestral rock - I know clearly what you want out of this project and I want the same thing: orchestral music. I meant maybe Todavsky was thinking along the lines of blending rock with orchestra, although I doubt it, it was more of a semi-sarcastic question, but then the more I thought about it the concept sounds cool, just not for this project. Sorry if you thought I thought you wanted "orchestral rock," since I would have no basis to assume that. Yeah. Just wanted to clarify I'm not stupid or anything. Heh.

[Claado Shou]

I know that...I was just making fun. Trying to lighten the mood and all.

Remember, you can never take what I say completely seriously. I never get truly upset or absolutely set on one thing - I always have that humor about a situation. There's always room to make fun. Even of myself.

[Claado Shou]

Alright, sorry for the double post, but this is (one of) the last reminder(s) I'm gonna give you guys: YOU HAVE UNTIL TOMORROW TO SUBMIT YOUR AUDITION PIECE.

This is the way it's gonna work: the piece doesn't even have to be done. Only pieces in the 3:00 range (2 so far) will be considered for use as the title theme, but in order to be accepted, all you have to give me is an orchestral piece that uses the correct source themes and starts off slow, eventually getting more energetic somehow. That's all. I know you all can do that.

So basically, you still have 16+ hours to get your stuff in. Please do so. You won't regret it.

[ellywu2]

Ok, so its only a minute and a half, but i have a presentation on the balkan wars due for tomorrow so it'll have to do.
p.s Its got an english horn in it woo woo!

http://www.soundclick.com/util/DownloadSong.cfm?ID=1747049

Ok, dont show me up everyone


By the way, unknown your piece is really good, and well done on 'When all hope has faded', one of the only vg songs to make it into my car stereo [/fanboy]

[moIto pene]

i know this might be real late to say, mainly cause the project is currently underway, but i have a good idea.
you say that a piano piece or arrangement would be perfect for the end right?...well...i know just the man to do it!
KlUtZ! *or however the caps are arranged*
his piano pieces are just perfect for this, and i bet he will be more than willing to help out in this!
so ya...theres my input...
if i knew how to work orchestra related programs better *i have the newest sybalius >.>* i would help.....i really want to too
oh well....theres my input

[PLBenjaminZ]

hey people i'm like new here but ooomg i soo wanna work on this project but i just read this thread like 6 hours ago and i won't even be home until like night time tomorrow~
so for the past 6 hours i've been throwing some crap together in an attempt to make an audition piece lol

i didn't even finish it cuz i'm hella sleepy, gotta wake up at 5 in the morning to go run =p oh well here's my attempt at an audition piece:

"Hey I Tried" or "teh1daycrap.mp3" :( (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/plbenjaminz/teh1daycrap.mp3)
*Right Click / Save As*
Please, Thanks :P


(i don't even know if what i did meets the audition requirements; it's not even a remix,it's just a complete rip off the original with a touch of my style, and it's really short, but hey, gotta try right?) :?

eDiT: *reads the first post in topic*
-piano is permitted only upon individual request and evaluation
damnit uhhhhhhh can I use piano in the beginning? :?

[SirRus]

Good God, what a frustrating day. I spent most of my day just trying to keep my computer from crashing and figuring out why it was - in between, I was able to keep my song project open long enough to record a few seconds at a time to just barely finish work on my song. Suffice it to say my creative juices were struggling to stay alive after the 100th restart of my computer. I am not using this as an excuse for my song though, as I am pretty happy with it except for a short audio drop out of the brass during the introductory build up. Hopefully if I get my computer fixed I can reencode a more stable audio mixdown of my project since it sounds much better without the brass droping out, but I wonder if anyone else will notice it since I am so used to it being there... and moreoever want it to be there. O well.

"In Search of the Light" (http://students.ou.edu/S/Ravi.U.Sharma-1/SirRusCT.mp3)

I changed the name of my song Claado, I hope it's ok with you. "Beginning of the End" was 1) too cliche 2) not the ultimate feel of the song I was going for (more haunting in nature). Since you asked for a description of what was in our minds eye as we made our respective songs, I can briefly explain my title. Basically, Chrono and his friends awake to a yet another normal, seemingly peaceful day in the movie script, and without their knowing are about to become the unkown heroes in an unsung war to save the world. "In Search of the Light" is a song that tries to capture their intertwining destinies as an prologue to their growth in skill, companionship, battle experience, etc. that will take course as the story unfolds.

Yeah, I hope that's not too cheesy or anything, and I hope my song is up to par with the projects standards.

[Zeality]

Just want to say, I'm in absolute trepidation at the thought of a Zeal remix.

[Claado Shou]

ellywu2 = ACCEPTED

((ASIDE: Does your song have a name, Mr. Wu?))

PLBenjaminZ = ACCEPTED

((ASIDE: Is there anything else we can call you other than that rather complex name? Something simpler? And can you think of a better name for your song?))

SirRus = ACCEPTED

Additionally...

blizihizake = ACCEPTED

Congrats, all. Veeeeeeeeeeeery impressive.

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DJZeroShadow: I'm sorry, but I already have somebody that I've asked specifically to do a live piano piece for the end theme. Yes, I know kLuTz's work...his Wind Scene remix is one of my absolute favorite songs ever. But I saw a specific talent in somebody else, and I want to use him. Sorry.

Ima update the front page.

[PLBenjaminZ]

ohh sweet accepted lol

yea my name is Preston Lee Benjamin Bautista Samoranos (I am cursed with a thirty-five letter name) but I go by Ben. :)

err name of the song, "CT AUDITION"? :? i'll get back to you on that... gotta go, won't be home 'til tonight.

[RoeTaKa]

WAIT it's not too late is it? I got time today to start something!!

http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/roetaka/index.html - wip is on there.

I got time to do something today, like an hour and got a 2 minute darkish piece that I'm hoping can prove some of my ability. Please note this isn'y the best of my ability and that I can get better samples soon I hope. Sorry for any little annoying parts in this song such as volume drops or tempo as i havent had time to work on those in such short time.

I did something original for the intro and transitioned that into a moodyish ct theme, i think it worked well. I will get this finished I just have no idea if I can today or not.

edit - worked more on this

[ellywu2]

Mr Wu? lol!

erm a title eh? how about 'Soaring across Eternity' ?
sounds pretty grand, har har.

oh by the way, thats pretty cool that i'm accepted! when abouts will we know what tracks we're doing etc?

[Holy Warrior Azar]

The script and such are down...can you put them back up again?

[RoeTaKa]

I managed to make my mix over 3 minutes but its not done yet.

[Claado Shou]

Alright, Ben will work fine.

Mr. Wu, I'll change the title forthwith. Tracks can be selected (first come first served) as soon as I announce that the mixing stage has begun (either tomorrow or Sunday).

Azar, it seems that TrenzHost is down for some reason, so I'll just let it have some time to get back up and running before switching to another host. Can you do without for a day or two?

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And RoeTaKa...this is a hard decision. Wow. The arrangement isn't bad, and the mood of darkness is pulled off very well. It's just that it's littered with so many bad spots, very bad samples, and a case of split-personality disorder. It doesn't know what it wants to be.

As is, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say no. I'll let you submit new copies (with better samples, please) until the end of tomorrow, but if it still hasn't improved enough, then I'm sorry. I just hope you get it done right.

Oh yeah...a little more than an hour left, y'all! Get 'em in!

[Blake]

OH sweet; I got accepted. I didnt think I would be for not posting a longer version

[Claado Shou]

OH sweet; I got accepted. I didnt think I would be for not posting a longer version

Your piece just won't be considered for the title theme, that's all. But since we already have 4 contenders...at least there's something to like, right?

[Claado Shou]

Sorry for the double post, but everybody...

CHECK THE FRONT PAGE.

[PLBenjaminZ]

meh, i didn't even finish mine, why is it contending for the title theme :?

I couldn't think of any good names, so I'll just call it "Determined", since I was 'determined' to audition so I sent that in lol...

[Claado Shou]

meh, i didn't even finish mine, why is it contending for the title theme :?

I couldn't think of any good names, so I'll just call it "Determined", since I was 'determined' to audition so I sent that in lol...

If you'd like for it to be removed from the race, I can do so. I personally thought that it was a very nice song, and it should be considered...but it's your call. Besides, you can always update it, you know.

[PLBenjaminZ]

haha I just didn't expect it to be a candidate for the main theme because I only made it to get in... i didn't even think I was gonna be accepted :o

but yeah I think the other candidates did a much better job because:
1. their samples are much better
2. their just a lot more experienced :)

I guess I'll just leave it in 'the race' and see how it fares, and if people like it I'll complete/revise/master it(theres a lot of little things I messed up like around 0:36 messed up chords and crappy sounding trumpets just after that, etc.)

oh well time to go run three miles, work out, go to the dentist, then go shopping the whole day (YAY!) lol... :P

[SirRus]

I can't wait, I'm excited to start working tomorrow on my song.

this project is gonna friggin own. 8)

[PLBenjaminZ]

okay maybe shopping didn't take the whole day :?

I can't wait, I'm excited to start working tomorrow on my song.

Yeah I feel ya, especially now that I've got like ten or so hours worth of spare time on my hands...

I already know what scene I want to do, and since I've got a lot of time, so I guess I'm just gonna start working on it and just hope no one takes it... :D

[Claado Shou]

I already know what scene I want to do, and since I've got a lot of time, so I guess I'm just gonna start working on it and just hope no one takes it... :D

Before you do anything, at least PM me and tell me what song it is. That way I can tell you from what point to what point in the script your song will be covering.

[Blake]

Hey, can we all post links to whatever free soundfonts we're using? Cuz I sorta formatted and lost all my soundfonts except squidfont and florestan.

[RoeTaKa]

I know you said you'd give me untill tonight Claado but in fact I wouldn't want to be one of the "lackers" of the project so in that respect I won't be trying any more. Yet for those interested I will complete my song and the time I could have been in this project will be used to make myself get better at music over all and gathering more powerful samples and such for greater sound.

[sephfire]

Um do we just post our desired tracks here or what? Guess I will anyway...

I'm interested in developing the heavier percussion sound I've been working on, so I'd love to claim a battle them of some sort (though I'm content with whatever I get assigned). So I guess my top picks are:

1. Battle with Magus
2. A Shot of Crisis
3. Battle 1

But again, I'm willing to take whatever I get.

Dunno how we're splitting the tracks between remixers, but I'd gladly work on more than one track, or collaborate with others on some.

Looking forward to tomorrow guys. ^^

[SirRus]

I think sephfire will do an excellent job with Magus's theme, I can already here those sweet tribal beats kicking away to the epic battle scene - go for it seph!

For my part, I think I have to download the .nsf file and listen to all the tracks again to get an idea of what I want, so that will be my "homework" for tonight.

[Claado Shou]

Technically, you can start on your piece now, sephfire. It's just that, if somebody else claims it before you do tomorrow at noon, then they get it, even if you're halfway done. So just be on the offensive.

Also, it is HIGHLY encouraged that you take on more than one track. Two or three would be ideal; just try to do as much as you feel comfortable with.

Yeah, for you, battle themes would be rockin'. Pulse-pounding orchestral is your forte, definitely.

[sephfire]

Well glad for the votes of confidence. See you guys at the noon showdown. ^^

[SirRus]

yeah so what happened to mv? If he just couldn't finish up an audition piece, I still hope he's wanting to participate. I was just listening to his remix over at vgmix Darkest Omen that is Stuff of Legends, and it would be perfect for this project. My point is, if mv doesn't have time to make new songs for the CT Movie Project, perhaps he could "donate" Darkest Omen/whatever other CT orchestrations he worked on for the CT video game remake project he was doing...?

Claado, in case you haven't heard mv's Darkest Omen, here is the link: Darkest Omen (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=508)

Umm yeah, is that cool Claado? Or do you want all new pieces for this project... I was just wondering a)what happened to mv and b) if his old stuff could be put on the album (with his consent) if he's too busy to make any new songs.

Man the "showdown" is in 9 hours, I need to get to bed. Here's hoping I wake up in time... I already have my songs picked out :wink:

[Sleepy Emp]

*sigh* I won't be here when the song-picking stage starts :( So I'd like to ask for an "Epilogue" song now. But if that's not possible, I'll take any song.

[Claado Shou]

Alright, I just listened to "Darkest Omen", and it fits perfectly with number 12 on the OST listing (the Cyrus flashback sequence), so I'll PM mv and ask if he wants it used. If he does, mv is in, and we have another spot filled.

*sigh* I won't be here when the song-picking stage starts :( So I'd like to ask for an "Epilogue" song now. But if that's not possible, I'll take any song.

Well, the ending theme has already been pre-offered to somebody else, so...if you want to do #24 on the OST listing, the farewell theme, that's still up for grabs...

Just noticed that I should make this clear: numbers 1, 3, 25, and possibly 12 are all NOT available for mixing. I repeat, 1, 3, AND 25 ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR MIXING. 12's fate will be decided soon, so PLEASE DO NOT CHOOSE #12 AS AN OPTION.

I'll put that up on the front page (just in case somebody missed it here).

[Sleepy Emp]

Oh, I made it in time!

Yes, I want #24 - Epilogue – To Good Friends. As stated in the OST listing,
24. SCENE: At the Millennial Fair Gate, the four say their goodbyes as Frog
leaves for home, and he disappears along with the Gate, its purpose fulfilled; the movie ends with Crono and Marle pondering the future
SONGS: Epilogue – To Good Friends
LENGTH: 3:00


And if we are allowed to take more than one song, and if we agreed to give sephfire the "Battle with Magus" theme :D, then I'll take Battle with Lavos as well.
23. SCENE: The four battle Lavos and destroy him after a combined magical
attack that causes him to explode and the Ocean Palace to crumble, as the four escape in the Epoch and watch it fall from the North Cape
SONGS: Last Battle
LENGTH: 5:30


EDIT:
Oh, as for the source tunes - I'll use "World Revolution", "Boss Battle 2", "Last Battle", maybe "Tyran Castle" for #23;

"Far Off Promise", "CT Main Theme", perhaps "Manoria Cathedral", "Underground Sewer", "Fanfare 1" tracks for #24.

[Claado Shou]

Double post, sorry, but I have to get this to the top of the list.

Alright, it's close enough to noon...mixers, post what songs on the OST listing you'd like to do, along with source tunes you plan on using, wait for a PM from me, and start making music!

ALSO, I have an update on the title theme song...I've listened to the choices time and time again, thoroughly enjoying them all many times in a row, and I have finally made up my mind. And the winner is...

"Inciting Incident" by sephfire

The others came very close, but his is the best suited for an opening theme. The other finished pieces will be bonus tracks on the ST anyway, so...congratulations all. You've earned it.

[PLBenjaminZ]

aahh crapp I think you made it a little early Lol but i want Scene 23 as well =p

I already got it planned an everything :(

I was thinking of using the Lavos' Theme, World Revolution, the Last Battle, and maybe a little of the 2nd Boss Battle Theme for it.


I also wanted to do a remake of Scene 3 with a sort of kick ass marching style to it, but DarkeSword already did it. waaah

Maybe I'll just take some leftovers =p

and yeah you didn't even double post because Emperor posted 4 minutes early Lol

[Claado Shou]

aahh crapp I think you made it a little early Lol but i want Scene 23 as well =p

I was thinking of using the Lavos' Theme, World Revolution, the Last Battle, and maybe a little of the 2nd Boss Battle Theme for it.

Hmm...shalt thou and Emperor duketh it out?

Sorry, Ben...unless Emperor gives it up, he's got it. I know I did this thing a little early...and I know you already had your plans worked out for the song...dangit...

Emperor, any chance you can work this out with Ben here? Track 22 is also dark-themed, and includes Magus' awesome destruction of Queen Zeal. That'd be tight. But I won't push you away from the piece if you want it...you were first, after all...

[PLBenjaminZ]

MEHHHHHHHHHHH I WOKE UP EARLY FOR NOTHINNNNG (its 9 here) LoL

i didn't want it cuz it's dark, i wanted it cuz its like battle haha

i wanted to do some like sick-ass Final Boss orchestral theme, oh well

i'ma go look in the ost for something else i might like =(

eDiT: Okay ill take

10. SCENE: Marle catches up with Crono and Lucca and they climb the
mountain, entering the tunnel at the top
SONGS: Wind Scene
LENGTH: 2:30

[Claado Shou]

There's always the Zombor fight, and Frog whooping his ass. You could always start the music as Zombor comes together, add a minute to the song. That'd work.

[PLBenjaminZ]

yeah i was thinking about that too and i wanted to use the Boss Battle theme but I couldn't figure out how to transition into the frog theme... maybe I'll take that as well

[SirRus]

haha o man it has begun! Why did it have to be that everyone wanted Lavos Battle - "World Revolution" was at the top of my list of songs I wanted to mess around with... and now since two people are already disputing over it, I will go ahead and make the song selection that is probably most feared and taboo:

ZEALOLOLOL (ahem, "Corridors of Time")

Also I would like to reserve The Epoch scene. "Wings That Cross Time" is the song mainly used for that one me thinks... sorry Claado I did not plan out how I would use the songs for the scenes - only which songs I really wanted to focus on. If my two selections go through, I will get back to you on how I will approach them. Hmm, I might actually change my mind about doing Zeal in a little bit, I wasn't planning on doing it at all until I got mad at myself for not getting up early enough to claim Lavos. But either of the two contesting over it will do a great job, I hope it gets settled soon.

[Claado Shou]

Shall I put you down for it?

[PLBenjaminZ]

i hate these short replies but, yes please =)
and I edited my post on page 16, I'd like this scene as well...

10. SCENE: Marle catches up with Crono and Lucca and they climb the
mountain, entering the tunnel at the top
SONGS: Wind Scene
LENGTH: 2:30

[SirRus]

yeah if that's ok with you, I would like to be put down for them... and I will get back to you as soon as I figure out the songs I'm using for each.

[sephfire]

Whoa. 8O Did NOT expect to see my audition picked. Guess I better get to polishing that sucker up...

As I said last night, I'd love to take number ?? - "Battle with Magus."

Emperor: However, if were really hoping for that one, I'm willing to share/collaborate on it and claim another for myself (such as my second pick, "A Shot of Crisis"). Seems a little unfair for me to unofficially "claim" a song the night before....

[SirRus]

I'm sorry I just got a little thrown off by the selection of scenes rather than songs... and I had specific songs picked out - so let me clarify something real quickly then: we are allowed and encouraged to mix different songs from the OST into each scene that we do? Kind of like what Emperor did with the main theme then? I was under the impression we would only be working with one song, and could possibly throw in "To Far Away Promises."

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[Claado Shou]

I'm sorry I just got a little thrown off by the selection of scenes rather than songs... and I had specific songs picked out - so let me clarify something real quickly then: we are allowed and encouraged to mix different songs from the OST into each scene that we do? Kind of like what Emperor did with the main theme then? I was under the impression we would only be working with one song, and could possibly throw in "To Far Away Promises."

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You can work with as many songs as you like, as long as you can effectively weave them together. Just try not to use the same song everybody else is. I don't want 22 mixes using Corridors of Time when there are 100 other tunes to be used.

[PLBenjaminZ]

I'm sorry I just got a little thrown off by the selection of scenes rather than songs... and I had specific songs picked out - so let me clarify something real quickly then: we are allowed and encouraged to mix different songs from the OST into each scene that we do? Kind of like what Emperor did with the main theme then? I was under the impression we would only be working with one song, and could possibly throw in "To Far Away Promises."

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I was under that impression as well... and we are arranging the music according to what is happening in the script, correct?

[Claado Shou]

We are arranging the music according to what is happening in the script, correct?

Yes. Just remember that the music enforces the action and gives it charge. If somebody is sad, so should the music be. Action scenes require upbeat music. You get the drift.