OCR01258 - Chrono Trigger 'When All Hope Has Faded'

[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[Don-Don]

one of my new favorite songs

[SirRus]

zircon + unknown, a combination I would have never guessed but have been thanking the Gods for since I first got this song from the WIP forums. Zircon is one of my favorite electronic musicians and Unknown one of my favorite orchestral musicians. Nuff said.

Seems like you two will do more collabs in the future, and that is something I am very eagerly awaiting.

[DJ Riott]

darn you don-don.

Hot off the press, we have yet another CT mix. You know it's gotta be good right from there for another CT mix to get past the judges. plus it is a collab of two artists I respect; it should be good.

Nice orchestral, everything flows, and the music box style is semi-creepy but mixes well with the orchestra.
We are at 2 minutes, and here comes the electronic portion. Amazing.

The rest of the piece just folds in and out of itself re-applying past styles than mixing them together into one beautiful mesh.

Everytime the electro comes back in, I am amazed at how much I love the hybrid of the piece without it catching my ears as an awkward piece.

6 min - enjoyable all the way through. OC is really pumpin out good stuff lately.

[Zaphlin]

heh, I was like "YAY! NEW CT MIX!" and then I realized I downloaded it tWo DayS ago at VGMix... oh well. it's an awesome song!

[CapnHulk]

Same here, got this at VGmix a while back. This is VERY, very good. I especially like the Batman-esque areas.

[Cadmus]

great transitions from orchestral to techno. can hardly tell it's happening, and it works very well.

[Darangen]

I liked this so much I burned it to a cd and sent it to my brother so he could hear it too.

Major props guys, collab more often! :P

[The Orichalcon]

quite the mix of genre's. It started out slow, but got right into it at 2:00

[Strife.]

Ok, maybe it's just me, but I thought the beginning minute or so sounded like a creepy child's lullaby. However the techno blaze that follows it is amazing. The flow of the different techniques is kept fresh by a subtle steady beat. I had trouble recognizing this as a CT mix, but that doesn't mean anything; very god job on the colab guys.

[nobodygetshurt]

jesus.
christ.
this is incredible.

[Shhteve]

I seem to recall hearing this one on the WIP boards.. and holy hell. It's come a LONG way since I heard it. Just amazing. Dreamy, ambient, and bewildering.. and upbeat! Haha! I love this. Keep 'em coming.

[Miku]

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/dcvmuicons/images/SPACEGH1.gif[/img]]Moltar, that- was awesome.

[The Orichalcon]

I've been listening again. This is amazing. I think I have a new list-topper.

Congrats zircon and "unknown"

Edit: I just found out what it reminds me of. It sounds like something out of edward scissorhands! (the first 2 minutes anyway.) Those slurring choir sounds are wonderful.

Well done guys, seriously.

Edit2: Karl just pointed out to me that djp already pointed out the resemblance to Edward Scissorhands in his review. That'll teach me to not read djp's reviews first.

[Wicked]

Ho-ly shit. You've got to be kidding me.

This mix literally sent a chill up my spine when I heard it the first time. I was shivering my ass off and I was sitting in front of a space heater. I have absolutely no qualms with this mix whatsoever and it's definitely my favorite Chrono Trigger mix yet. Fantastic job.

[Cheese Soda]

Eeeep. It's gawesome. Never tought it would get piffed up later on the song, when I heard the beginning.
One of my facourites CT mixes so far. :o

[echofox]

This mix literally sent a chill up my spine when I heard it the first time.

Same here. Very nice creepy orchestral, reminded me of Elfman or some of the tracks in Fable. The only tiny complaint I have about the electronica section is that some of the slides in the melodic line around 2:42 sound a bit odd and may have been better left played straight. Excellent transitions, very fluid mix.

[snow_cheetah]

hi hi

i have to say that i'm biased. the day the world revived was my favorite snes tune ever and it's melody still haunts me to this day.

that being said, i think this piece did a great job of being both original and as awesome as the original. while it doesnt have quite the same bittersweet feeling, it fights back with it's own intensity.

-karl

[Toadofsky]

I have to say I didn't expect it to turn into a techno song, but hey, that's not a problem at all. But the beginning, as pointed out is like a Tim Burton film's music, ala Edward Sisscorhands.

[PancakeHero]

I have to say I didn't expect it to turn into a techno song, but hey, that's not a problem at all. But the beginning, as pointed out is like a Tim Burton film's music, ala Edward Sisscorhands.

Agreed.

[chthonic]

Play this along with 'Triforce Majeure' (http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01184); they go together extremely well.

Excellent genre (Matrix), excellent execution, just excellent. The best of both worlds.

-chth

[Bahamut]

While this mix is nice, I thought the electronic elements were a little on the weak side. Something about the trance soundfonts sounded like there could've been an improvement in choice...but I didn't listen to it much yet, so I can't comment beyond that.

[Xatos]

One of the best ct remixes imo and I love the part from 4:00-4:50.
Really cool how it is working with the only 80 seconds of the original track!

[zircon]

Just so you know, I didn't use any soundfonts. Designed the synths myself using 3xosc, Reaktor, and Pro-53. I realize the elements that I used were a little on the generic side - I can't really argue that they weren't - but Ty had wanted portamento effects which could only be done with 3xosc, so I had to go with that for most of the leads and such. If I could do it again, I would have prepared my parts better, since I've learned quite a bit since I've made this, but Ty and I were both happy with the way it fit in with his part, so we stuck with it.

Anyway, really glad you guys enjoyed it! It's really kind of funny how Ty and I started this one. We both were remixing this, with him doing a pure-electronic version, and me doing an electronic/orchestral hybrid. He was actually going to give up on his version, until I suggested he continue. From there, we just decided to collab and see where it went. I know our interpretation is more dramatic and epic in scope than haunting and melodic like the original, but I really think this style worked and I'm hoping you guys think so too.

[damathacus]

I'm very impressed with this. You took a highly ignored track and basically created two excellent remixes of it, which you then fused together quite smoothly into a consistently masterful single arrangement which was never repetitive or boring, despite it's length. Amazing job, both of you. I'd really like to see you guys collaborate again.

Techo/orchestral mixes always make for an interesting combination, though it's not always quite pulled off. One Winged Techno and Big Shell West Bristol are two of my favourites that did a pretty decent job of combining the power of an orchestra with electronic stylings, and this one is up there now as well.

[RimFrost the Tourianist]

Interesting ..yes. With so little of the original tune to go on , a very nice and eye-opening techno/trance remix has been made. We all needed something fresh and new for the ridiculously large bunch of CT remixes sofar. Good Work Zircon and unknown !!!

(this one together with Prophecy's Chekan Winter and DD's Triforce Majeure will have a top place on my trancey playlists 8) )

[RoeTaKa]

I heard this a while back and yes I still have it saved to my computer which for me is a rare thing to have a song so long, usually I delete songs quickly, even if they're good ones for some strange reason.
But this has got great areas of arrangement, two completely different genres that side for what most people listen to on OC so it's a no lose situation really.
I'm a sucker for orchestral (and piano for that matter) and the orchestral side is really well handled, superb.
I think the techno excelled the piece, but it wasn't really something that could stand on its own, which is why im glad this was a colab.
With the techno, for instance one of my favourite bits was at 1:51, that build up is just a classic build up and really pumps everything.
Oh well, this eally puts me into wanting to learn more technical sides of music now, cause I just cant stand using soundfonts all the time etc.

[Flare4War]

I just thought it was great from start to finish. The intro was long but really good so it wasn't hard to be patient.

At 2:10 you start to realize that you're going to get more than you bargained for. Around 3:33 you figure it won't get much better, then at about 4:20 it does.

This mix definitely runs with the best this site has to offer.

Great work, hope to hear more.

[Typhun]

I can only think of one word to describe this remix: Awesome. Wonderful job. Absolutely wonderful. One of the best remixxes in a while.

[Jenkie]

One of the absolutely best remixes I've heard in a long time. I LOVE the orchestral piece there are so many details and all the instruments cooperate perfect with each other. The ballance is extraordinary. I'm not sure wether it's a gd trance part or not since I don't think trance is really an interesting genre, but mixed with orchestral like this, I love it.

Excellent work!

[neminem]

As much as it's becoming increasingly redundant, I just have to add my name onto the list of people saying really awesome, best OCremix they've heard in a while, etc. One thing that really strikes me is that, despite the clear schism between orchestral and electronic, I can clearly imagine the entire thing being in a movie score (though probably not one by Danny Elfman, once the electronica comes in). I actually have enough classical/orchestra+electronica mixes to warrant creating a new id3 genre tag for them - and this is among the best of them. I could gripe about the bland ending, but that's about it.

[willow-whisp]

The previous remixes of "The Day the World was Revived" have fallen short for me - they lacked the harmony and the desolate yet hopeful mood of the original. I greatly favor Unknown's part in this remix (no offense to Zircon naturally, for this particular song, I have longed to hear it arranged in an orchestral way).

I have sort of wished that Unknown would score one of my animations for me, and this mix (combined with his "Storm in the Desert" piece) keeps him at the top of my list once again. Thanks for the inspiration and the nostalgia - I hope you two plan on collaborating again.

[Hallucid]

This started off as some little piano-y thing i expectied to hear in some sad little cutscene in something like Disgaea. Then it turned all technoish and made me want to kick the asses of things, which is always a good sign. Nice job!

[FinalTrigger85]

Well Done. Great piece of music you guys got here. I must say I thoroughly enjoyed this song. Keep up the good work! :D

[FinalTrigger85]

Well Done. Great piece of music you guys got here. I must say I thoroughly enjoyed this song. Keep up the good work! :D

[ResidentPS2]

I greatly enjoyed this piece. As mentioned earlier, I cannot help but think of Edward Scissorhands while listening to this one. You definitely feel the sorrow from that movie when you listen to this remix. I wonder if you were influenced by that soundtrack. If so, great work here.

[mrjag]

I were sad if this was a trance VS orchestral. I wish to see orchestral in the background, and not the trance. Anyway, this is a collab, so the best of both worlds playing together is always tasty to be enjoyed.
Trance should be born early. The chimes break could last a little longer. Orchestral part had to be less superb. These resolve everything. :lol:

[Aninymouse]

I greatly enjoyed this piece. As mentioned earlier, I cannot help but think of Edward Scissorhands while listening to this one. You definitely feel the sorrow from that movie when you listen to this remix. I wonder if you were influenced by that soundtrack. If so, great work here.

Uncanny. I heard a very strong resemblance ot Edward Scissorhands in this as well.

I don't have much to add myself. This mix is wonderful. Go get it if you like orchestral with some bite.

Hope to hear some more from both zircon & Unknown. Keep up the good work, both of you.

[Akaroo]

I've heard a ton of incredible music from this site during the last two years that I have been comming here, but this track required me to register so I could rant.

It's awesome. Yes it does sound somewhat Danny-Elfman-esque at the beginning but it's definitely welcome in my opinion. Around 2:00 the balance of techno to orchestral was incredible. Between 2:15 and 2:30 one steps back and the other takes the lead.

The first half is gorgeous and sort of apprehensive, the second half is very daring. The great transition from one to the other gives the listening group a rush.

Awesome peice.

[tk1337]

I actually have enough classical/orchestra+electronica mixes to warrant creating a new id3 genre tag for them - and this is among the best of them.

Indeed, this is a great remix. I don't believe it can be reiterated anymore. It did remind me slightly of Danny Elfman, but not too much. The techno-main theme reminded me a lot of "Man With a Machine Gun" from Final Fantasy VIII, though. Awesome remix; keep up the good works. =)

-tk

P.S. Orchestral+Electronic=Orchestronic?

[Epyon3001]

Sorry, but i just HAVE to add my name to this list. I really enjoyed this mix. It's the first really good on I've heard in awhile. It's also the best Chrono Trigger remix I've heard in awhile. Good job and keep up the good work!

[Nobbynob Littlun]

Techno gone terribly right.

[Antisheep]

1 word: Amen

[Chrono721]

I was trying to find a piece for my orchestra to play, and I came across this. I though "WOW!" this is pretty good! I have to get the sheet music, or arrange this! Then came the techno section during 2:30 or so. I was like... ARGHH! It's a great remix. Though... Synthesisers wouldn't go well with an orchestra... and also, We don't have synthesisers. ^_^. I really enjoy this piece even though I don't like techno songs. Great JOB!!!
-Charles Yip

[BlueMage]

Typically, orchestrated pieces can sound all-encompassing/grand/etc but will often lack the 'oomph' offered by electronic manipulation, the converse being that electronica can sound too removed from reality/'normal' instruments to evoke the same sort of feeling. Common sense says "Fine, throw both together, and you'll get the best of both worlds." and for once, this held true.

The blending of two very different musical types, while sounding as though it were the most natural thing possible, makes this one remix I'll be listening to for a long time.

Also, while it sounds pretty kickarse throughout, 4:25-4:30 is where it really picks up, and sounds to my ear like the two styles merge into a single composite, rather than playing off the other.

[Wicked]

I already posted once on this one but one good turn deserves another, especially since I still can't stop listening to this damn song. I can't explain why I like it so much. I love how the electronic and orchestral parts are so distinctly apart from each other...but so together. What's so messed up is now I can't possibly imagine hearing this song without both. Just orchestral or just electronica doesn't cut it anymore. If I were gay, I'd very much like to have sex with the remixers solely based on my opinion of this remix. However, I'm not, so you'll just have to settle for a friendly handshake. Actually, that's not really possible either. Oh well. A smiley face must do. :)

[Chrono721]

Wow. You seem to like the song VERY much. Personally, I do agree with you. The song can't go without both. I couldn't stop listening to it until about a month after it was released. Although, I have to say that the trasition between the techno part and the orchestral part was a bit shakey. I'd still give it a 9.5/10 rating!!!! GREAT JOB!!!!! I'm trying to get a remix created, but... I'm not one of those composer types. -__-;;
-Chrono721

[Impassioned Havoc]

Hm. This remix warrants me logging into my account for the first time in at least 4 months. I've been downloading obsessively from Overclocked lately (bear with me, I'm still on 56K), and I went song by song through Chrono Trigger. Coming across this piece, I must say, this is one of the most adeptly exectued remixes I have downloaded (out of 555, to be precise). Listening to this song, you can really see and appreciate all the orchestration (no pun intended) that went into this remix. I could rant all day about how zircon and Unknown have taken fairly limited source material and turned it into a Orchestral-Techno epic, but what I really love about this piece is the subtlety. There is so much nuance and so many careful adjustments scattered about this remix, and so it succeeds in keeping this piece from ever becoming repetitive. One instance that occurs to me is the development of a more atonal sound, just before the techno beat kicks in. The techno shatters through, and I'm thinking, okay, that's it for the orchestral, but no more than 10 seconds later, it comes powering back in a perfect fusion with the electronic elements. Beautiful, simply beautiful. The one suggestion that occurs to me is the piano at the beginning sounding a bit too electronic. Humanizing it a bit, or most preferably getting a recording of some real piano would be some very sweet icing on an already outstanding cake. But that may just be me, I've been listening to too much kLuTz and Dhsu recently. Overall, great, great work that merits recognition, and, with any luck, will stand as an example for what remixers can aspire to achieve in this largely undeveloped genre.

[Angelus Laminarum]

Umm... yeah. I downloaded this song to my computer about half a month or so ago, and never realized I hadn't left a post. So, here's my bit:

DAMN!

This is a wonderful mix of my two favorite genres of music, taking them both to greater heights than ever possibly imagined before. Excellent work guys!

Ah, just thought of it... I believe EXCELSIOR is the word for this: onward and upward!

P.S. Orchestral+Electronic=Orchestronic?

Actually, I prefer Orchestral+Electronic= Electrestral... sounds more divine? maybe? maybe not... oh well...

[HershDawg]

One of my favorites. I love how he mix straight orchestral with orchestral-tecno.

[LatentSanity]

This is probably my favorite remix that I've downloaded off of OCR. However, after a few listens, I've become less intrested in it. Not, as you might currently be thinking, because I don't like it any more, but because the theme is too well orchestrated.

I'm more of a casual listener, so it's good to be able to follow the song while you're not really paying any attention. When listened to through a good pair of headphones with relatively few distractions, this mix is the best song I've come across, as far as creativity and listenability are concerned. On the offchance that I am trying to type an essay, as will be the case tomorrow, I would probably refrain from listening to this song. "Why?" you may ask. My response is simply, "This song just needs to be listened to."

Although this could be seen as a good thing, it's not that great to be completely distracted from what you're doing for a full six minutes. That's why I generally prefer to listen to orchestral/piano-y remixes while multitasking. They're both easy to listen to in the background, while also being intricate and well crafted for those times when you just want to listen to music.

Despite the rant-ish nature of my review thusfar, I will remind you that I beleive that this is probably one of the better songs on the site. Were you to pose another question to me, one such as "How good is this Remix?", my response would be clear.It's good. Great. God-like. Listen to it now, but not if you plan on doing anything important. It will take over your life entirely for the next six minutes. Probably more. You won't get the full impact until the second time through.

So, that's my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. It's a free country.

96/100

[RPharazon]

For me, this song brings back days from the N64 era. I was playing Donkey Kong 64 and heard the sad but melodious tunes of the levels. This song seems sad, melodious and deserving of a cavern level, but halfway through it takes you through a experience that makes you think "Wow. It was wrong of me to underestimate the song". This song may be the best I've heard. But not the best on OC. I'm not going to name names.

9.5/10 fireballs.

[Zipp]

The first part of this piece is sheer brilliance. Haunting, and yes, I defenitely agree about the Edward Scissorhands. Never imagined the song being taken in this direction and am glad it did. That said, I wish you'd stuck with this theme for a bit longer than you do. While the addition of a beat is carried out flawlessly, and the transition is nice, I think the listener is set up for something else that never comes again. To be honest, I would've prefered that something else.

Again, this in no way says the second piece isn't well done, it is, but as far as composition goes, I really miss the melodious haunts of the first half of the song. Otherwise, this is an innovative look at a fairly short riff in the Chrono Trigger series (originally from Secret of Mana).

4 out of 5 stars

Zipp

[analyticalchemist]

A wonderful experience overall. I agree, it's amazing how the techno integration wasn't awkward at all.

[KelVarnsen]

This is wonderful. :)

It feels like a very natural fusion. It feels one type of music, not two... it's... "turbo-orchestra."

I'd even call this groundbreaking. It's definitely pro quality... if these two collaborators made a CD, I would most definitely buy it. Eagerly :)

[[blunai]]

I've listened to almost 700 songs on this site, and this is by far the best of them all. I just can't stop listening to it!

[Hybrid_Demon]

Orchestronic<Electrestral by far.

This song warrants special credit. I can't recall the actual tune from CT, yet it is still awesome. Great transition. Going into my favs right away.

[HesTheMan]

One word, or rather, a few: amazing, ground-breaking, and climactic. Definatly Pro quality.

[XXIX]

Two words, kid: Absolutely Fantastic!

[Alianger]

excellent work! this is definitely the most interesting mix i've heard in weeks.. and i've yet to hear the original.

[King Matt I]

Very few songs really blow me away when I first listen to them. Since I'm writing this review, obviously this song is one of them. This song is excellent. It maintains a feeling of emotional drive throughout the song, while not departing wildly from good structure or the basic spirit of the original piece.

Most excellent.

[Bummerdude]

Man, both Unknown and zircon are great, but I
never thought that the result of combining them
would be THIS great. And the original melody is
like 10 seconds, and they´ve created a remix on
6:11, and it doesn´t get repetive.
WHAT IS THIS?!!!!

[nicholai_maelstrom]

Words fail me as I am left awed by this piece. I wouldn't really know how to compliment these two brilliant composers had they done this anymore perfect...

Ever since the first time I listened to a zircon mix, I was thoroughly impressed with the ability that they demonstrated (The remix was the Chrono Trigger - Calamitous Judgement). I must admit, that when it comes down to it, I would rather have nobody do a Chrono Trigger remix for me, other than zircon. Keep up the excellent work! You're incredible and you do the game the justice that it deserves.

And now... for Unknown... I love Unknown's arrangements. The first mix/arrangement that I heard by this composer was Zelda: The Windwaker - Pirates of Dragon Roost Isle. The smooth, hypnotic melody was just so relaxing and easy to get along with. I must admit however, I hadn't really listened to any of their other mixes/arrangements and thus, I was a bit skeptical about seeing Unknown do a CT mix. However, my skepticism was justly proven wrong as this song flows magnificently like all of the others I've heard now...

Then, I saw both of the names coming together under the Chrono Trigger section and I couldn't resist myself... As soon as I saw it all I could say was "This is going to be wicked..." I clicked the links and was already overtaken by the smooth arrngement of Unknown... then, zircon kicked in with the bass and synths and I couldn't resist closing my eyes, nodding my head and laughing out the words, "HELL YEAH!"

This has got to be one of, if not my favorite of all the other remixes that I've heard on this site. Give it up to Unknown and zircon for bringing their talents together and forming a masterpiece!

[about:blank]

This is by FAR one of the best attempts at molding orchestral with electronic, and it works better than any other attempt that I've heard on this site so far. I agree with some of the other posters here who said that you guys should collab more often, it would definitely have good results.

[taelusramza]

I am in agreement. This mix is incredibly well done. So good, in fact, it makes me want to go replay Chrono Trigger. :-D

I really like the blending of the two styles, the orchestral section is well done, and flows into the second half very well. Despite the difference between the two styles, they flow really well, and manage to maintain the feeling of being a single song really well. I really can't say enough about this mix-- amazing job.

[ocremixfan]

This is a real demonstration of skill! Two completely different styles tied together and creating such good mix!
Unknown and zircon... please keep this 'partnership'! It's really promising! Great work!

[lady zelda]

For the first two minutes, I was enjoying the beauty and tranquility while doing work, and then it just picks up and I had a blast! I love these kinds of mixes for they allow you the oppurtunity to enjoy the music in different ways in just one track i.e. you're hearing the soft soothing sounds at the beginning and then all of a sudden you are grooving uncontrollably in your seat (or wherever you are while listening). Basically, the variety makes it a classic. Now that's what I call an audio adventure, haha.

[The Vagrance]

I remembered this remix from a while back, whenever I first started remixing tunes (although it was 2003/2004 so it wasn't that far back obviously) and I remember this remix just being posted on VGMix, just recently I tried finding it again because I remembered how much I liked it but I had forgotten the name and VGMix was down so I wouldn't be able to find it on there again. Whenever I was listening to the 1001-1500 torrent though, I finally found this piece again, and I must say it sounds almost as good as I remember it. Unknown's part is fantastic, beautifully orchestrated, unfortunately I just feel that zircon's part falls a bit short. All of the synths, while nice, just seem a bit too cheesey for this style.

[John Revoredo]

Unknown's part is fantastic, beautifully orchestrated, unfortunately I just feel that zircon's part falls a bit short. All of the synths, while nice, just seem a bit too cheesey for this style

Yeah, i think the same.

[Audity]

Awesome fusion and cheesy synths aside, I think the end just gets too cluttered. Other than that, yum. Maybe I won't notice when not thinking too much! Though, the fact that I was thinking a lot this time through (about how it's not going to be as good as I remember and about how this type of fusion has high potential to flop) yet still enjoying it, says something.

[meccaneer]

This guy keeps me company in the car a lot. Quite inspirational.

[HerroZerro]

A great song! One of my most listened to out of all the CT Mixes.

The only thing i have against it is from about 3:37 - 4:04 has way too much bass, When I tried these with my Skull Crushers I almost thought they were broken, just a wall of bass that made me turn down the volume.

Other then that i love it!

[daedeloth]

Something as small as the reintroduction of the techno at 4:17 shouldn't have blown me away like it did, but that's just one very slick part of a very slick piece.

[Mr_Masks99]

I sort of liked this until the techno kicked in. That just ruined it for me.

[Flare4War]

Still one of my favorites.

Just good stuff.

[varkken]

After downloading, listening and rating all 1600 (actually only half of them so far) songs from that huge torrent. This is the only song I have given a perfect rating to, It is by far my favorite.
(In all fairness I have actually only listened to and rated 750 or so songs as of yet).

[Lucentas]

I really love the first part, and although the transition into the techno was a bit abrupt, I can still appreciate it. It's the orchestral stuff that makes me really like this, though.

[Gario]

You could bring me to my knees with a remix like this one. I will agree that the orchestral music was stronger than the techno, but I'm not going to say better, at all - to say 'better' or 'worse' would imply that they sounded like two separate entities in the music, which they did not at all. The techno portions needed to be weaker in order to mesh so well with the rest of the orchestral music; you cannot really separate one element from the other. I cannot express how wonderful this remix is in words.

I'm frankly quite amazed that this is from 2004 - incredible work from both of you so long ago. It doesn't surprise me that Zircon is still making amazing remixes today (although it does surprise me that Tyler decided to stop after 2005 - Come on, we need more Tyler remixes, now!).

[UnveiledOsiris]

Love love LOVED this remix. It is a very solid piece and I feel that the techno/trance was integrated perfectly, sending you from tranquil mode to fight mode. In fact, in that sense it's very much like CT itself: one second all's well. Next second, you're off to save the world from Lavos. Very well done.

[Emunator]

Um... well, the two parts stand pretty solidly on their own, and the transition from techno to orchestral isn't bad. But really, the fade between genres could have been a LOT more seamless the first time around. The second one was a little bit better doing it gradually, but I still believe this should have just been two separate mixes. Unknown's orchestration is solid and zircon... well, he's improved a lot but even this isn't too bad, but I'll echo everyone else's sentiments that this was more of a mashup and less of a collab.

[OA]

Nice buildup and though some of the synths are a bit vanilla, the beats are good. This definitely lacks the punch and excitement of Zircon's later stuff, but it's a good gauge of the level he was at when he first started getting stuff on the site. If you dig the theme, you'll find plenty to be excited by, and overall it works decently.