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I wanted to do a Famitracker/instrumental band crossover originally, but found that too nerveracking logistically, so now it just has a NES intro.
The ending is based on 'The Orphan of Storm', the 'Victory!' tune.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?omzddfgytnz
Original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FR_i-EbDc
I tried to shape the original track into something less dissonant, while keeping its frantic spirit.
It's pretty liberal at times, people not familiar with the source might have a hard time getting all the links. But whenever there's no melodic/harmonic similarity going on, there's usually a rhythmic one.
Not sure about the sound yet, the compression makes it sounds pretty meaty but also a bit too muddy and squashed at times. Probably still gonna work on that.
Sam Ascher-Weiss
07-15-2009, 05:08 AM
mannnnnnn you rule so hard it's ridiculous!!!! Long live NASE!
SplinterOfChaos
07-15-2009, 11:39 AM
Yeah, this is crazy, messy, awesome.
I'd comment that it's a little muddy and squashed at times, but you seemed to have already noticed. ;p
Tricklozen
07-15-2009, 12:38 PM
In summary--details, yes--but it also feels like a zip compressed musical performance at the end.
The sweet changes starting at 2:02 could perhaps be taken advantage of more, especially the organ'n'bass break + brass.
2:13 -- The melodic focus seems to be diminished here--expected it to be the main focus.
Sounds good.
In summary--details, yes--but it also feels like a zip compressed musical performance at the end.
The sweet changes starting at 2:02 could perhaps be taken advantage of more, especially the organ'n'bass break + brass.
2:13 -- The melodic focus seems to be diminished here--expected it to be the main focus.
Sounds good.
Absolutely, spot on. I had the exact same feelings about the final part after I relistened the next day. Guess I rushed it a bit and wanted to get done. I think I'll add another another few measures of the 2:13 progression, vary it up and do something with the counter-melody of the original. It has to feel like a proper finale.
Thanks y'all, thanks for the support Sam :)
Gario
07-15-2009, 02:27 PM
Damn, this is slick! You've made a rather uncatchy (but frantic) song into a catchy (and frantic) song, which is awesome. I agree that it's unfocused at the end, which detracts from the rest of the track, and the track is certainly overcompressed, in general.
No, I can't fathom why you are not an OCRemixer, yet - the stuff you put out is great!
Harmony
07-15-2009, 03:25 PM
Very cool. I guess I feel a little differently about some criticisms. The compression add lots of tension to me, which is a good thing for this frantic piece. Plus, things open up when they need to (1:52-2:10).
The melody that comes in at 2:13 feels underdeveloped at first, but it fleshes itself out and resolves nicely by the time it leaves the scene around 2:35. I think what would help it not feel so weak at first is if you hold off on the drums at 2:13 until a few measures later. They're going full steam from the get-go but the newly introduced melody is just building up momentum. IMO, that's a mismatch.
I think the ending is fine. It SMACKS of SoM flavor, especially the driving kick and snare dominated percussion palette. awesome :)
Very cool. I guess I feel a little differently about some criticisms. The compression add lots of tension to me, which is a good thing for this frantic piece. Plus, things open up when they need to (1:52-2:10).
Yes, it's more a matter of finetuning the grade of compression, maybe automating it for a few sections.
I'm a lazy bastard when it comes to production, the compressor is on the master channel ;) It sounds great to me the way it is at times like 0:37, gives the clav that nice pulsing sound, it just gets a tad heavy sometimes when more instruments join in.
The melody that comes in at 2:13 feels underdeveloped at first, but it fleshes itself out and resolves nicely by the time it leaves the scene around 2:35. I think what would help it not feel so weak at first is if you hold off on the drums at 2:13 until a few measures later. They're going full steam from the get-go but the newly introduced melody is just building up momentum. IMO, that's a mismatch.
Good idea.
I think the ending is fine. It SMACKS of SoM flavor, especially the driving kick and snare dominated percussion palette. awesome :)
The ending is going to stay there for sure! When I said finale, I meant the 2:13-2:35 bit. I just want to flesh that part out better to not make the 2:35+ resolution seem premature.
Great to hear you dig it Harmony, esp. considering that you seem to be about as much a SoM fanboy as i am. :)
Gario: Thanks. I haven't submitted anything until recently. There's a Castlevania mix of mine waiting in the to be posted list, expect it around...Q4 2010? Lol.
Harmony
07-15-2009, 05:17 PM
Great to hear you dig it Harmony, esp. considering that you seem to be about as much a SoM fanboy as i am. :) Haha, so true.
Dave Harris
07-15-2009, 10:23 PM
Sam's been showing me some of your tracks, this one included. Just wanted to pop by and say this is h0mgz awesomes, and i hope you continue in this vain :3 I'm a sucker for highly liberal stuff of this type, plus I can take any amount of SoM love. Looking forward to seeing this completed, and anything else you make/have made~
Sam's been showing me some of your tracks, this one included. Just wanted to pop by and say this is h0mgz awesomes, and i hope you continue in this vain :3 I'm a sucker for highly liberal stuff of this type, plus I can take any amount of SoM love. Looking forward to seeing this completed, and anything else you make/have made~
You're Blitz Lunar! Sam in turn showed me some of your tracks too, I love em! You're a master of everchanging prog-infested chiptunery, man.
Thanks for the kind words.
Monobrow
07-20-2009, 08:54 AM
I guess I have to comment on this too! This is basically ear candy so I am glad you are the candyman. Hahaha, when that guitar comes in I am such a happy little girl omg.
Thanks dude, please don't stop making the wacky muzaks. That organ is friggin badass!
2:10 section seems a little minimalistic after such a great build, also kind of makes the next section with the steel drum not as contrasty and cute? That's my only thing that I could notice.
YEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
bananabomberman
07-28-2009, 04:14 AM
Has a very catchy funness to it. I think the frantic-ness fits quite well. I am presuming the ending isn't finished though? ;]
Finally worked on this again. Pretty happy with the climax now.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mzym0nzqnm0
The constant buildups at the middle of the track might seem a little weird, but i grew to like them after a while.
Dave Harris
08-17-2009, 02:11 PM
this is just incredible. i really really hope this gets posted!
this is just incredible. i really really hope this gets posted!
thanks dave! I hope so as well, it's way more out there than my previous submissions. I'm thinking about providing an analysis to calm down the 50% judges, haha.
djpretzel
08-17-2009, 08:12 PM
thanks dave! I hope so as well, it's way more out there than my previous submissions. I'm thinking about providing an analysis to calm down the 50% judges, haha.
It'd help. I certainly enjoyed it; very original & would be a great addition to the site...
yeah, this is pretty sweet. love the chiptune intro. the transition at 1:55ish was nice. cool solos at the end and the drum patterns from about 2:45 onward were rockin' (especially that little stutter at 3:01)
i strongly approve of this remix :razz:
ty halc.
Submitted :) See you in 2011, remix...IF it works out.
Gario
08-25-2009, 05:04 AM
I can't believe I missed your update - things have been hectic for me recently, I guess :|.
Ah well, I hear it now, and it woulds like you've changed quite a bit, there. It sounds like you've got quite a bit more going on there than before (yet sounds so much clearer) - I'm liking the effect of the sound wash your giving.
I don't see why the judges would give this any trouble, at all - the source is actually very clearly there... it's just different motives from the source meshed in different ways, and anyone who doesn't hear that is a NEWB!~! :lol:
Really, though - I hope for a great success on this one, and I hope it's not in 2011, either :).
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