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Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-24-2009, 05:30 PM
So the other thread went on into the oblivion that is nonexistence, so I thought I'd go ahead and create another thread.
So what's everyone watching? What's coming up in the coming months that we should look out for? Was anyone annoyed by Gundam 00 S2?
Discussion commence!
Gollgagh
07-24-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm trying to find time to catch up on some classics like Lupin III and Samurai Champloo
I finally watched Cowboy Bebop earlier this summer but haven't seen anythings since
Meteo Xavier
07-24-2009, 05:38 PM
I can't recommend Ichigo Mashimaro enough. I caught it two years ago and, risking the title of Loli-fan, I absolutely fucking love it.
The soundtrack, for those you who love J-pop, is the fucking royal jelly. Every song I've heard is the best I've ever heard.
S2 of 00 was disappointing but tolerable to me. I liked some of the gundam designs.
Haven't been into anime as much lately but I've started watching Canaan and Umineko no naku koro ni and both are suprisingly entertaining and have kept my entrance through the first 3 or so episodes. I would recommend both. Umineko is a murder mystery (think Clue.. in a mansion, people getting picked off) with a touch of fantasy/paranormal. Canaan reminds me of Noir a bit, young girl assassin but the overall plot escapes me at the moment.
Schwaltzvald
07-24-2009, 05:57 PM
Decided to rewatch Eureka 7 as I'm currently 'collecting' Gundam 00... very very slowly...
Waiting for the newer episodes of Hajime no Ippo to slowly come out as well.
Avatar of Justice
07-24-2009, 06:14 PM
Decided to rewatch Eureka 7 as I'm currently 'collecting' Gundam 00... very very slowly...
Waiting for the newer episodes of Hajime no Ippo to slowly come out as well.
I wish Bandai would make another non-Gundam show as good as Eureka 7 (or Geass). I fucking loved it. Gundam 00 is a total joke starting around the halfway point of season 2.
Ferret
07-24-2009, 06:18 PM
I'm paused around episode 12 of Gurren Lagann, trying to find other stuff to watch too...
I have Witchblade sitting on my external HD but for some reason I haven't watched past episode 3 or 4 or someshit.
Heh.
Schwaltzvald
07-24-2009, 06:29 PM
Gundam 00 is a total joke starting around the halfway point of season 2.
That so..? Welp time to look for something else then.
*new Hajime no Ippo episodes starting now...*
k-wix
07-24-2009, 06:39 PM
So the other thread went on into the oblivion that is nonexistence, so I thought I'd go ahead and create another thread.
So what's everyone watching? What's coming up in the coming months that we should look out for? Was anyone annoyed by Gundam 00 S2?
Discussion commence!
This is honestly, mostly old stuff, but I've really enjoyed these few series over the last few months with the g/f. Can't recommend these enough.
Dennou Coil
amazingly unique anime. great concept! The animation is just too good.
Fruits Basket
good, solid story. great characters, even if a little cute.
Lovely Complex
great love story. Lots of funny moments. Starts out slow, but really has
a unique way with the animation. Loved it.
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzuhima
amazingly good anime. great characters, awesome story.
Haibane Renmei
just finished this one, a little slow, doesn't do much, but man, its
really unique, again, superb characters. Some very 'omg' moments. Love the
emotional intensity in this one.
The Damned
07-24-2009, 06:40 PM
Irresponsible Captain Taylor... even though all the Japanese stuff says it's "Tylor", but whatever.
Sometimes old shows you've never seen before are just as good as newer shows you've seen several times.
Avatar of Justice
07-24-2009, 07:33 PM
Irresponsible Captain Taylor... even though all the Japanese stuff says it's "Tylor", but whatever.
Sometimes old shows you've never seen before are just as good as newer shows you've seen several times.
Tylor was the first anime comedy I could really get into. It was nice to see something trying to be funny without being stupid school kids and something that had a very endearing cast. Cryburn and Andressen are win.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-24-2009, 07:35 PM
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzuhima
amazingly good anime. great characters, awesome story.
I'd totally recommend the first season of Haruhi. Season 2 is quite literally stuck in a loop.
No seriously, the gang is caught up in a time loop created by her and the past 5 episodes have been the same exact thing with minor alterations and no resolution. I have no idea who thought this would be a good idea for TV.
And yeah, Gundam 00 S2 was pretty weak compared to season 1 and it even got progressively worse.
DarkeSword
07-24-2009, 07:35 PM
I wish Bandai would make another non-Gundam show as good as Eureka 7 (or Geass). I fucking loved it. Gundam 00 is a total joke starting around the halfway point of season 2.
Try Bounen no Xam'd, aka Xam'd: Lost Memories. It's made by the same folks that did Eureka 7, and it's got a similarly grand tone.
Arrow
07-24-2009, 07:40 PM
No seriously, the gang is caught up in a time loop created by her and the past 5 episodes have been the same exact thing with minor alterations and no resolution. I have no idea who thought this would be a good idea for TV.
On the plus side, next episode is supposed to be the end of the loop, thank god.
Avatar of Justice
07-24-2009, 07:43 PM
I'd totally recommend the first season of Haruhi. Season 2 is quite literally stuck in a loop.
What? There's a season 2 of Haruhi? Holy shit.
The Damned
07-24-2009, 08:45 PM
It sucks. Avoid it for now.
Seriously, I haven't seen a show go so downhill so fast.
Gollgagh
07-24-2009, 09:07 PM
No seriously, the gang is caught up in a time loop created by her and the past 5 episodes have been the same exact thing with minor alterations and no resolution. I have no idea who thought this would be a good idea for TV.
I loved that volume in the novels.
LuketheXjesse
07-24-2009, 09:15 PM
me and some pals bought all the FullMetal Alchemist episodes and blazed through the series. Fantastic show.
Next up: Yu Yu Hakusho.
Ninja-san
07-25-2009, 12:27 AM
Series I've enjoyed lately are Boccano!, Kekkaishi and Black Lagoon...sadly that's all I'm coming up with anime wise. I haven't seen any good ones lately.
Im downloading a movie right now called Nitaboh. Not sure what it's gonna be like but I like the story summary and told the soundtrack is beautiful
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-25-2009, 12:03 PM
Also been watching Phantom - Requiem For The Phantom as well as the new version of Full Metal Alchemist. New FMA is quite the departure from the first series and I think I like it, while Phantom is pretty much another girls with guns in the same vein as Noir, but mixed with The Professional and a little Gungrave as well. I'm lovin' it.
I-n-j-i-n
07-25-2009, 12:45 PM
Phantom had a really great first half and almost-too-similar-to-the-Professional second half. I hope it throws more curveballs because the show is solid so far.
And yeah, this season's FMA is LEAGUES better than the last one. Mainly because this is the 'real story' of the manga and not some bastardization and hippie-hand-holding version of it. And the animation/music of EACH episode is amazing. It's obvious they pumped a lot of effort and money into this one. Bones seems to be doing that recently, the same story with Soul Eater before it.
Now I'm getting around to Tokyo Magnitude 8.0. It's like a typical disaster movie, but except it's anime. lol
relyanCe
07-25-2009, 02:02 PM
Recently finished watching Claymore, Chobits, and Kaze no Stigma
Claymore was almost as awesome as Devil May Cry and Chobits was a welcome departure from depressing downer-ending anime. Kaze no Stigma was... cool, i guess. Oh, and Code Geass was lame after season 1 ended. Causality just doesn't stick it's neck out that far to try and ruin the life of one person.
Going a bit further back, I finally finished all of the Evangelion stuff, got clinically depressed, and moved on only to find they're remaking it so i'll be obligated to watch that depressing dysfunctional cast angst all over themselves while blowing crap up again. at least i get to gawk at ZOMFG REI BANDAGE GIRL again!
Watching S2 of Gundam 00 as well, and rather enjoying it, though i'm only 8 eps in at the moment.
Started Black Lagoon, but i doubt I'll finish it. Tried to watch the Negima anime, but found it harder to get into than the manga.
I'll probably just watch Gurren Lagann again.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-25-2009, 02:12 PM
It pains me so much that they don't continue the Berserk and Claymore animes as both mangas are not only much further in the story, but much more awesome. Unfortunately the weak "ending" to the Claymore anime pretty much ensures they'll never do it unless it's a total redo.
I also forgot to recommend Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino. It has a bit more focus than the first season, and is much better(even though I thought the first season was great). The art direction is different, but the season itself is great.
Dj Mokram
07-25-2009, 06:14 PM
Have pretty much narrowed to my top 20 all-times favorites animes, and re-watch them from time to time.
Will probably list them here someday...
Recently, I've been through the whole Full Metal Panic season 1,2 and Fumoffu again. It's oldies but goodies.
This summer, I'm planning to go again through Witch Hunter Robin, Kino no Tabi, Wolf Rain, and possibly Ergo Proxy.
Yeah, I'm an old-fashioned guy like that. :mrgreen:
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-26-2009, 04:34 PM
I hope it throws more curveballs because the show is solid so far.
So how about that curve ball? 8-O
TehDonut
07-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Finished shikabane hime, it was alright, some parts got me on the edge of my seat though. (OP is sooo goooooooood)
I'm watching Toradora right now, and so far its pretty good.
Jack&TheBox
07-26-2009, 10:12 PM
Alright, time to bust out some random stuff for you folks. Personally, I never really watched anime or read manga until about four-six months ago, but ever since I've been devouring it for some reason.
Here are some interesting/great/little known ones that you should check out:
Black Cat
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni / When the Cicadas Cry
Monster
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi
Air Gear (if only for the awesome soundtrack)
Only check out the anime of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! if you can handle extreme shounen manganess. The manga is a lot better than you'd think, and you get hooked pretty quick.
Berserk is a classic but should definitely be watched. It's my personal favorite. And if you don't want it to end how it does (which is incredibly brutal to the viewer), check out the manga. All the current volumes are online and it's still being written (which is amazing considering it's been around for over a decade). The only reason I may deter you from it, though, is that the author tends to take month long breaks between chapters (the next chapter is due in September, for example), and the manga is in no way close to being over.
Those are just a few I can remember off the top of my head that really grabbed me. There was one about some weird angel that bashes in some kid's head repeatedly that was hilarious, but I can't remember the title for the life of me. Anyway, enough rambling. Check'em out, but don't take my word for it.
I-n-j-i-n
07-27-2009, 01:22 AM
So how about that curve ball? 8-O
Really good, as expected of Phantom. lol. It's really not the most innovative show, but it just does it so tastefully and with very good gravitas. And the music is just chilling at times. Amazing soundtrack, really.
As for Berserk and Claymore, the most people can expect is maybe an OVA of Berserk or if there's enough demand (I doubt it), it might make it into an anime overhaul like Full Metal Alchemist did. At least with Claymore, they can do something about it, though Madhouse stupidly decided to go with an anime-original ending. Maybe they can do something about it...
And speaking of Higurashi, the new show Umineko no Naku Koro Ni (When Seagulls Cry) is really good too. It's basically like Higurashi except with a mystery surrounding a witch instead of a rural god like in Higurashi.
OverCoat
07-27-2009, 03:12 AM
I'm in the middle of Toward the Terra right now
it's quite good
Brycepops
07-27-2009, 04:03 AM
Fist. of. the. North. Star. Watch it. Nao.
I'm going to keep recommending it every time.
I'm currently watching Dragon Ball Kai and going through Space Adventure Cobra (I can see where they might have gotten the idea for Vash the Stampede from.)
Dj Mokram
07-27-2009, 01:40 PM
Black Cat (if only for the awesome soundtrack)
Fixed. :wink:
The manga is great, but avoid the anime if possible.
Despite my love for Taku Iwasaki's music, and the cool OP song, most episodes have unfortunately been drawn by a 8years old kid.
They butchered the anime imo.
TheSnowStorm
07-27-2009, 04:25 PM
Fist. of. the. North. Star. Watch it. Nao.
I will and I shall. It is the most manliness anime of all time.
Well, this past weekend I finished up watching the first season of Haruhi Suzumiya. It's a good series, a bit overrated and overhype but generally at the end, it was a pretty damn good show. The humor and the whole shit about Haruhi's reality wrapping powers got to me. I am hearing the second season isn't really that great at all since it is just a repeat of the same damn episode through a diffrent viewpoint of a character.
The only characters who I actually like were Kyon (because of him being a cynical bastard), Ryoko (for her being a nutcase, pyscho-bitch), and that esper dude(for the comedic relife). Haruhi was cool and all but it's really a meh for her. And I don't see why Yuki is so damn popular. I really didn't like her. At all.
Avatar of Justice
07-27-2009, 05:47 PM
A friend and I are preparing for a Gundam SEED rewatch. One of my favorite pieces of fiction ever.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-27-2009, 06:00 PM
SEED was indeed good, and after awhile I started getting used to the dubs(save the dub for Lacus' songs).
SEED Destiny however is a trainwreck that didn't know what it wanted to be. I think I read somewhere that it was supposed to be some kind of allegory to or at least influenced somewhat by the confusion of the current war in Iraq.
If you ask me, they succeeded in spades in that regard. I was confused and irritated as fuck.
Hector
07-27-2009, 07:02 PM
Gundam seed was good. But their habit of recycling footage drove me crazy at times. And the main two characters, after their initial period of development, became quite dull. The secondary characters were great all the way through though.
I'm actually just starting to watch Destiny now. I'm not at a point where I can judge it. What about Gundam 00 though? How's that compared to Seed?
relyanCe
07-27-2009, 07:06 PM
Slayers.
How could i forget Slayers!
one of the best anime ever made. Everyone go watch it if you haven't, everything else be damned
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Gundam seed was good. But their habit of recycling footage drove me crazy at times. And the main two characters, after their initial period of development, became quite dull. The secondary characters were great all the way through though.
I'm actually just starting to watch Destiny now. I'm not at a point where I can judge it. What about Gundam 00 though? How's that compared to Seed?
Season 1 of Gundam 00 is pretty great, or at least moderately good although I don't know if I prefer it over SEED. I can't really recommend it though being that it ends on a cliffhanger and you'll have to subject yourself to the pain of watching season 2 to see the resolution(?) of it all.
Another anime that just finished recently was K-on!, which is pretty much Beck meets Azumanga Daioh with more of a focus. If you haven't seen Beck, I'd recommend that as well.
Did I mention Gungrave? If anyone has missed out on this, go see it post haste. If I had a top 5 anime list, it'd definitely be there.
relyanCe
07-27-2009, 07:56 PM
i dunno where all the hate for 00 Season 2 is coming from, I've been enjoying the character development immensely. Then again, i'm only just under halfway through, so maybe I just haven't seen enough.
Brycepops
07-27-2009, 07:58 PM
I will and I shall. It is the most manliness anime of all time.
http://www.heartofmadness.net/ - They subbed all 152 episodes :3
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-27-2009, 08:00 PM
i dunno where all the hate for 00 Season 2 is coming from, I've been enjoying the character development immensely. Then again, i'm only just under halfway through, so maybe I just haven't seen enough.
Don't worry, you'll get there. :-P
Winter's Wings
07-27-2009, 08:02 PM
I'm actually just starting to watch Destiny now. I'm not at a point where I can judge it. What about Gundam 00 though? How's that compared to Seed?
IMO, Gundam Wing will always reign supreme as the best Gundam show ever. However, I would put the first season of Gundam 00 right behind it (and SEED close behind that).
The second season, though...? I mean, I've only watched up to episode 13 so far...but it just all seems pointless so far. I think they honestly should've just ended Gundam 00 at 25 episodes. =\ I mean, episode 25 was the big epic OH SHI- battle they always have anyway, so it seemed a fitting spot for it to end.
As for Destiny...I'd be understating my dissatisfaction with that series if I said I wanted to drive a large wooden stake through both of my eyes rather than watch it again.
Dennou Coil
amazingly unique anime. great concept! The animation is just too good.
Good God YES - watch this series!!! I generally can't stand this type of anime, but I found myself utterly astonished by how awesome it really was. The soundtrack isn't bad, either - especially the full version of the opening. =D
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-27-2009, 08:07 PM
The worst part about Destiny is that it has my favorite characters out of the "Seedverse".
Winter's Wings
07-27-2009, 09:06 PM
If Shinn is your favorite character (or even one of them), I'm gonna kick your ass LOL... >.>
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-27-2009, 09:46 PM
The only thing I liked about Shinn is the fact that he is the ONLY main character in a Gundam series(aside from my No.1 fav Shiro Amada) that actually had military training going into it, and his background was interesting as a "casualty" of war. Too bad they botched him as an interesting character.
My reasoning for my two favorite characters from the series aren't very complex, I just like Stellar and Luna's character designs.
Thin Crust
07-28-2009, 12:24 AM
IMO, Gundam Wing will always reign supreme as the best Gundam show ever. However, I would put the first season of Gundam 00 right behind it (and SEED close behind that).
The second season, though...? I mean, I've only watched up to episode 13 so far...but it just all seems pointless so far. I think they honestly should've just ended Gundam 00 at 25 episodes. =\ I mean, episode 25 was the big epic OH SHI- battle they always have anyway, so it seemed a fitting spot for it to end.
As for Destiny...I'd be understating my dissatisfaction with that series if I said I wanted to drive a large wooden stake through both of my eyes rather than watch it again.
They had to continue. Every gundam series has always had 50 episodes.
...
...
Or so I think. I have yet to see one that didn't.
HalcyonSpirit
07-28-2009, 12:45 AM
If OVAs count, then 08th MS Team qualifies with only 12 episodes.
Also, when I first saw mention here that the new Haruhi season sucked because the past 5 episodes have been the same thing over and over again with minor variations, I thought you were joking. I was wrong. Oh so wrong. It was somewhat interesting to try to note every little change in each episode, but otherwise... DEAR LORD WHY!?!?! Two episodes would've been enough!
If they want to pull this season off with even a mediocre rating, the rest of the season needs to be freaking awesome.
OverCoat
07-28-2009, 06:13 AM
I will and I shall. It is the most manliness anime of all time.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1638/kaiser400.jpg
Kaiser Reinhardt disagrees, but acknowledges Kenshiro is a total badass anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koqYK33E1oo
^ best dub ever [dnb music!]
Avatar of Justice
07-28-2009, 02:22 PM
i dunno where all the hate for 00 Season 2 is coming from, I've been enjoying the character development immensely. Then again, i'm only just under halfway through, so maybe I just haven't seen enough.
Yeah, it jumped the shark at a specific moment for me. Like, that moment was dumb when I saw it, and looking back, after that moment, the entire show went downhill. I think it is exactly the halfway point too.
My thoughts on Destiny are complicated. It is very obvious that the writers didn't know where they were going most of the show and just sort of cobbled the plot together. And yet, it has awesome moments (the final confrontation between Kira and Dullindal (Durandal?), the episodes where Kira and Athrun are fighting yet again, Kira vs. Shinn). Those moments get my pulse racing, so I can forgive the show for that. People tend to hate Kira and Lacus in Destiny a bit and are unhappy with what happened to Cagalli. As far as Cagalli goes, I can see how two years of dealing with a bunch of political d-bags (I imagine all of Orb's cool politicians died with her father in SEED) would grind a person down, especially someone like Cagalli who is much more of a warrior than a politician. Kira and Lacus are accused of being too perfect, but since Lacus is my anime dream woman my response is "She's perfect and that's a problem?" Someone who is feminine, talented, intelligent, a great leader, and who hands out Gundams to stop wars sounds like an awesome package to me.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-28-2009, 05:43 PM
What bugged me most about Destiny was the arbitrary nature of everything. Stuff happened because the writers needed something to happen, but there wasn't any real build up or anything to most of what was going on. What's worse is how they treated most of the main characters from the first series.
Brycepops
07-28-2009, 06:03 PM
Kaiser Reinhardt disagrees, but acknowledges Kenshiro is a total badass anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koqYK33E1oo
^ best dub ever [dnb music!]
I came buckets when I watched this on the Action Channel a few years back. I liked the way he announced the moves he did.
TheSnowStorm
07-28-2009, 08:22 PM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1638/kaiser400.jpg
Kaiser Reinhardt disagrees, but acknowledges Kenshiro is a total badass anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koqYK33E1oo
^ best dub ever [dnb music!]
Kaiser looks like a manly man as well but I haven't heard of him so I can't truly judge.
I heard the second season of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is pure shit due to the Endless Eight arc is just a loop. If that's true then that's a shame seeing how well done the first season was.
In fact, what other anime should I watch besides North Star that I might enjoy. I a humor and action kinda guy who also like a great story, character development and great music.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Golden Boy.
OverCoat
07-28-2009, 10:35 PM
IMO, Gundam Wing will always reign supreme as the best Gundam show ever. However, I would put the first season of Gundam 00 right behind it (and SEED close behind that).
I neglected to watch any gundam series for a long time, I think the newest one I'd ever watched was Gundam Wing, because I watched that as a kid, and I've seen most of the UC gundam anime out there since then [MSG, 0080, 0083, Zeta, Double Zeta] and god damn was I disappointed in Gundam 00. Right off the bat. None of the characters were likeable except for Sergei and his little loli clonevat soldier sidekick. I did like the mecha designs for the non-gundam mobile suits, but that's about it. After seeing so much UC gundam series I wasn't surprised that half the main characters died at the end of the first season, but I didn't care enough about what happened next so I don't think I'll see season 2. I have more important things to do with my time :P and there are better mecha shows out there. Macross Frontier, which iirc aired at the same time Gundam 00 did, is a far more interesting anime.
Oh, and Reinhardt there is from probably the best anime ever, Legend of Galactic Heroes
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1786
If you enjoy scifi anime and haven't seen this yet... oh man. I have yet to witness any storytelling so epic, even in non-anime.
Winter's Wings
07-29-2009, 11:36 AM
I think I liked Gundam 00 a lot because it did a very good job of showing the flaws of the pilots and people within the different organizations. Gundam always tries to show how flawed everyone is, but in the end shows how everything works out despite those flaws, and I really like that for some reason. It may or may not have something to do with my working for IT, and feeling like the entire world is collapsing around my cubicle on a daily basis. =P
I also liked how they killed off a lot of the characters in Gundam 00. I *REALLY HATE* shows that don't kill their characters when they need to. Watch Bleach for a fantastic example. It blows my mind that you can have a show based on fighting, and still manage to go entire arcs without killing characters (not even the bad guys). Say what you want about Naruto, but at least the author is willing to let characters go when they need to go.
My only problem with the show, is that they did such a great job setting up for the second season...and then they botched it. On top of that, it appears they've already made their point in the first season (again, haven't watched the whole second season yet though). In Gundam Wing, there's a bunch of themes of conflict, and they're introduced steadily one by one until the end, where it all comes together (and you see the soldiers triumphing over the "soulless" mobile dolls). That's what made it great. Gundam 00 doesn't use its themes well on the whole... I kinda felt like SEED and SEED Destiny were sorta lacking in that area, too.
Avatar of Justice
07-29-2009, 07:49 PM
My biggest problem with Gundam 00 is that it pussied out on the issues it presents initially in the show. To me, the whole theme of Gundam 00 was "Is it acceptable to use force to bring about world peace?" In Season Two we are supposed to accept that it is not because we are supposed to just accept that the A-LAWS are bad. Sure, the A-LAWS do horrible shit. But if people had not opposed them, the A-LAWS presumably would not have attacked them. Were the A-LAWs exploiting them somehow? All I saw was idiots opposing authority and being beat down for it which is what it would take to enforce world peace. Setsuna & co. would just babble some nonsense about how they now fight for the future and we were supposed to just side with them. I remember when Billy confronts Sumeragi at the end and lays out why he supports the A-LAWS. I said "You know what? You're right. Shoot that bitch!"
Celestial Being just came off as big hypocrites to me. So, an organization like the A-LAWS that goes around attacking people who fight against world government is bad. And yet, Celestial Being, an organization that is implied to be the big watchdog of the world at the end of the show is the exact same thing. It's members simply have no one in the world government giving them oversight and we are just supposed to trust them. I have no problem with the concept, but I don't like it when the A-LAWS stood for the same thing and are for some reason villains for it while Celestial Being is A-OK.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-29-2009, 08:50 PM
Except for the part where A-LAWS kills civilians indiscriminately with excessive force.
DarkeSword
07-29-2009, 09:25 PM
My biggest problem with Gundam 00 is that it pussied out on the issues it presents initially in the show. To me, the whole theme of Gundam 00 was "Is it acceptable to use force to bring about world peace?" In Season Two we are supposed to accept that it is not because we are supposed to just accept that the A-LAWS are bad. Sure, the A-LAWS do horrible shit. But if people had not opposed them, the A-LAWS presumably would not have attacked them. Were the A-LAWs exploiting them somehow? All I saw was idiots opposing authority and being beat down for it which is what it would take to enforce world peace. Setsuna & co. would just babble some nonsense about how they now fight for the future and we were supposed to just side with them. I remember when Billy confronts Sumeragi at the end and lays out why he supports the A-LAWS. I said "You know what? You're right. Shoot that bitch!"
Celestial Being just came off as big hypocrites to me. So, an organization like the A-LAWS that goes around attacking people who fight against world government is bad. And yet, Celestial Being, an organization that is implied to be the big watchdog of the world at the end of the show is the exact same thing. It's members simply have no one in the world government giving them oversight and we are just supposed to trust them. I have no problem with the concept, but I don't like it when the A-LAWS stood for the same thing and are for some reason villains for it while Celestial Being is A-OK.
In the 2nd season, CB realized they did more harm than good.
And the A-Laws committed absolute atrocities in the name of "preserving order." Memento Mori, anyone?
relyanCe
07-30-2009, 04:48 AM
you'd think after this many gundam shows people would start to realize that protagonist doesn't mean good guys. It follows the gundams because it's called Gundam, but that doesn't mean the morality is black and white and the gundam pilots are doing the right thing all the time. Before the Memento Mori, I was leaning toward the A-LAWS despite their harsh methods.
I-n-j-i-n
07-30-2009, 08:40 AM
That is before the A-Laws decided to kill millions with a press of a button. A bit silly that they'd do that considering they had the upper hand...
As for an anime recommendation in general, I'd say Genius Party is a must watch if you ever need a reminder why anime is typically considered the tops in the animation genre and maybe in any media as to showing wonderment in audio-visual form. Some of them are literally eyepopping and unfortunately, they don't have a domestic DVD of it yet. But plucking it off of Tokyotosho is so worth it. Get it any way you can. Can't go wrong with a bunch of 15 minute shorts based off of the theme of 'birth' that just goes to every types of storytelling extremes you can think of.
Bleck
07-30-2009, 08:44 AM
I've never seen a Gundam show that had a plot that made sense or was really deep
if you want giant robots, you watch a Gundam - if you want an interesting plot, you watch The Big O or RahXephon or Space Runaway Ideon
I-n-j-i-n
07-30-2009, 01:10 PM
For the story and not just for the sexy boytoys, Gundam Wing had some pretty interesting and unique ideas about war. A lot of weird plotholes and convenient 'super explosion didn't kill a boy (albeit superpowered) when he detonated it right next to him' stuff though.
00 also came close to being pretty innovative because they were following Wing's storyline for most of the first half. Then the second half made a tragic mistake of copying Zeta, which is a total nonsensical emofest, and that ruined almost everything. I hope the movie returns to the Wing-esque storytelling.
Avatar of Justice
07-30-2009, 01:25 PM
you'd think after this many gundam shows people would start to realize that protagonist doesn't mean good guys. It follows the gundams because it's called Gundam, but that doesn't mean the morality is black and white and the gundam pilots are doing the right thing all the time. Before the Memento Mori, I was leaning toward the A-LAWS despite their harsh methods.
As someone who loves moral ambiguity in story telling, I don't have a problem if 00 had actually managed it. However, the main characters of the show just seemed like what they were fighting, except they babbled vague nonsense about how they have to change and the future. Moral ambiguity is no fun if one of the sides doesn't have a good point.
Gollgagh
07-30-2009, 01:25 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm loving the timeloop thing in Haruhi 2
Thin Crust
07-30-2009, 02:43 PM
*SPOILER WARNING*
The thing I hated most about 00 was also in the second season. The first thing that got really annoying was the nonsense with Saji and Luise. They just wouldn't stop whining. People have already talked about this so I won't go into it any further.
The second thing was the innovators themselves. They were so annoying and went on and on about how they were the superior beings whom all peoples should bow down to. Even though they were getting beaten left and right. And in addition, no matter how many times they got beaten, they just ejected and came back.
But this is the thing that really got me. The innovators kept pulling supersuit after supersuit out of their arse. Where do they keep getting these superior mobile suits? If they keep getting better and better, why didn't they just use the more advanced models in the first place instead of waiting until the other ones were defeated?
And the last thing that I didn't like was that it followed almost all the other gundam shows in the way that technology skyrocketed near the end. Let's look at Gundam Wing. At the beginning of the series, there were only Leos and Aires suits. Later the water models: Picies and Cancer were added. Before long, the mobile doll Taurus was invented, which required an upgrade to the gundams for them to be able to fight them. And finally, the Virgo suits were introduced as the ultimate fighting machine. These 4 suits comprised everything that the armies possessed. And the Leos were present during the last and final battle. Contrast this with 00 and see how everything just blew out of proportion. Even with respect to the advanced models in GW, there were only the 5ive gundams, the Tall Geese and the Tall Geese rebuilt, Epyon, and Wing 0. (I don't count the Mercurious and Vey8)(SP) But in 00, you just couldn't keep track of all the new suits that were released every episode. I don't like when they do that and it's what GW did very well.
Now that I’m done with that, I want to bring up another popular gundam series called Code Geass. I don’t care what anyone says, it is a gundam show developed by the same people, having the standard 50 episode requirement, and having the required recap episodes that sums up everything in the series that occurs in every gundam show.
I’ve got to ask, am I the only one who hated that show? The black knights never win. They always run away and somehow, their ranks grow despite that. I could go on a long rant about all the things that were wrong with that show, and how the author did some really weird things in order to manipulate the story to his liking. But I’d rather not go into all that.
Avatar of Justice
07-30-2009, 03:08 PM
Yeah, one nice thing about Wing is that it IS pretty easy to keep track of the enemy suits. I think a lot of it has to do with the logical progression of the suits and the fact that there are less of them (and that they don't all look really similar). Original Gundam and Zeta Gundam just constantly throw new suits at you and they just don't seem that different besides maybe being a different color. 00 suffered from that too.
Arrow
07-30-2009, 06:02 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm loving the timeloop thing in Haruhi 2
In terms of storytelling, it's a very interesting ride, but it's also kind of frustratingly boring to have to watch essentially the same episode over and over again with minor variations eight times.
It's amusing seeing how many different ways Haruhi can almost murder Mikuru with a beach ball though.
Gollgagh
07-30-2009, 06:12 PM
well I loved it in the novels as well so seeing it played out with every single episode completely reanimated is kind of a treat for me
TheSnowStorm
07-30-2009, 06:26 PM
I just gonna wait until the whole Endless Eights shit is over. I do not wanna watch the same damn episode with minor adjustments or a different viewpoint from each characters.
Fuck and I also need to watch Fist of the North Star.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-30-2009, 06:34 PM
Here's to hoping that Kyon finally figures out that there isn't some kind of space time vortex outside that restaurant and actually follows Haruhi out this time.
Gollgagh
07-30-2009, 06:35 PM
I just gonna wait until the whole Endless Eights shit is over. I do not wanna watch the same damn episode with minor adjustments or a different viewpoint from each characters.
that's the point
I think I'm the odd one out that's actually enjoying it
TheSnowStorm
07-30-2009, 07:05 PM
that's the point
I think I'm the odd one out that's actually enjoying it
You do however, gotta give credit to the writers of Endless Eight seeing how they trolled a fanbase like it was nothing. Seriously, you put a popular anime on hold for a few years, finally come out with a new season only to write the episodes to the point that it is the same deal for every last one of them so far.
Seriously, you can not tell me that is some amazing trolling.
Geoffrey Taucer
07-30-2009, 08:47 PM
So does avatar count as anime?
I just finished the series and thought it was brilliant. Definitely one of my favorite series.
relyanCe
07-30-2009, 08:58 PM
Now that I’m done with that, I want to bring up another popular gundam series called Code Geass. I don’t care what anyone says, it is a gundam show developed by the same people, having the standard 50 episode requirement, and having the required recap episodes that sums up everything in the series that occurs in every gundam show.
I’ve got to ask, am I the only one who hated that show? The black knights never win. They always run away and somehow, their ranks grow despite that. I could go on a long rant about all the things that were wrong with that show, and how the author did some really weird things in order to manipulate the story to his liking. But I’d rather not go into all that.
Code Geass was retarded for many reasons but the biggest one for was because it either vilified or killed off any (and i mean ANY) sympathetic characters. And if ANYONE calls Kallen a sympathetic character I'm going to shoot him in the fricking face.
*SPOILER*
Lellouch's poor poor mother who was murdered for no reason? Part of the evil plan to mind rape the world
Nunally, Lellouch's poor poor crippled sister? Nuked millions of people because, well... I don't even know why she did it
Lellouch? Please. There's a reason his fan nickname is Le Douche.
Shirley? Shot by some psycho FOR NO REASON.
Kallen? I mean seriously, she was basically a fangirl with a giant robot who had no idea about anything and had was less loyal than fricken Starscream when the chips were down.
And Suzaku. Don't get me started on Suzaku.
*END SPOILER*
The only character I could really sympathize with was Euphemia, because her death was such a pathetic piece of idiot-writer feces.
anyway, anyone know when Slayers Revolution/Evolution-R's gonna get an English dubbing and American DVD release?
Hector
07-31-2009, 12:26 AM
You watched through 50 episodes of an anime and you hated it that much? I hope that you were at least getting something else out of the anime.
I myself liked Code Geass, the first season more than the second. I like it when characters die and heroes do things they shouldn't--at least in an action anime.
But I was wondering, does anyone else get sick of flying mechas? I don't mind when they fly for a little while, but I can't stand it when they spend most of a battle flying. It makes me wonder why they bothered putting legs on the things if they aren't going to use them.
relyanCe
07-31-2009, 02:49 AM
the 'splosions n' flyin' robits were cool, but i finished it mostly because i always finish animes that i watch at least 6 episodes of. I dunno why. It's the reason i won't watch berserk, cuz i know I'll hate the ending. I don't really mind killing off characters and moral ambiguity, but the number of fridge-stuffings was ridiculous in CG. Also, the writers couldn't seem to write Lellouch consistently at all.
I get tired of flying mecha too, but what irks me most about "real robot" mecha animes is how the hell do you make it kick, punch, hell, even shoot properly with a couple joysticks?
Gollgagh
07-31-2009, 02:52 AM
You do however, gotta give credit to the writers of Endless Eight seeing how they trolled a fanbase like it was nothing. Seriously, you put a popular anime on hold for a few years, finally come out with a new season only to write the episodes to the point that it is the same deal for every last one of them so far.
have you read the books
hell, if you even think about the premise of E.E., it be obvious that they'd have to "copy and paste" the script for the episodes
it's more the fact that they're using this particular story at all then how they're doing it
I-n-j-i-n
07-31-2009, 11:56 AM
*SPOILER WARNING*
The thing I hated most about 00 was also in the second season. The first thing that got really annoying was the nonsense with Saji and Luise. They just wouldn't stop whining. People have already talked about this so I won't go into it any further.
The second thing was the innovators themselves. They were so annoying and went on and on about how they were the superior beings whom all peoples should bow down to. Even though they were getting beaten left and right. And in addition, no matter how many times they got beaten, they just ejected and came back.
But this is the thing that really got me. The innovators kept pulling supersuit after supersuit out of their arse. Where do they keep getting these superior mobile suits? If they keep getting better and better, why didn't they just use the more advanced models in the first place instead of waiting until the other ones were defeated?
And the last thing that I didn't like was that it followed almost all the other gundam shows in the way that technology skyrocketed near the end. Let's look at Gundam Wing. At the beginning of the series, there were only Leos and Aires suits. Later the water models: Picies and Cancer were added. Before long, the mobile doll Taurus was invented, which required an upgrade to the gundams for them to be able to fight them. And finally, the Virgo suits were introduced as the ultimate fighting machine. These 4 suits comprised everything that the armies possessed. And the Leos were present during the last and final battle. Contrast this with 00 and see how everything just blew out of proportion. Even with respect to the advanced models in GW, there were only the 5ive gundams, the Tall Geese and the Tall Geese rebuilt, Epyon, and Wing 0. (I don't count the Mercurious and Vey8)(SP) But in 00, you just couldn't keep track of all the new suits that were released every episode. I don't like when they do that and it's what GW did very well.
Now that I’m done with that, I want to bring up another popular gundam series called Code Geass. I don’t care what anyone says, it is a gundam show developed by the same people, having the standard 50 episode requirement, and having the required recap episodes that sums up everything in the series that occurs in every gundam show.
I’ve got to ask, am I the only one who hated that show? The black knights never win. They always run away and somehow, their ranks grow despite that. I could go on a long rant about all the things that were wrong with that show, and how the author did some really weird things in order to manipulate the story to his liking. But I’d rather not go into all that.
Regarding 00, what I said before seems to have rang true. The unnecessary emo relationships and the whole "WE ARE SUPER HUMANS and > than humans" seems to ring true and plucked straight out of that terrible Zeta series.
As for Geass, I actually liked it, but mostly because there were funny plottwists and not because of its actual, serious story, which was very hard to take in too seriously.
And as for Endless Eight, I honestly don't care about the reason anymore. I am pretty much pissed. I actually understand the REASONING to doing it and especially if it copies straight out of the novels, but I think it's just more gimmickry than anything. Especially with Kyoto Animation, which has had its share of weird animation flops in the past year. I would think they wouldn't and maybe shouldn't do this when they are in a bit of a pinch overall.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-31-2009, 11:59 AM
As an idea for reading Endless Eight might be cool, but you can read through the entire thing in a night. In a weekly 30 minute show, this is not fun nor a good idea to keep an audience attached. At all.
cobaltstarfire
07-31-2009, 01:17 PM
Code Geass was retarded for many reasons but the biggest one for was because it either vilified or killed off any (and i mean ANY) sympathetic characters. And if ANYONE calls Kallen a sympathetic character I'm going to shoot him in the fricking face.
I hated Code Geass, something about it in it's entirety was very unlikeable to me, but for some reason I still wanted to watch it and see what happened by then end.
But, I think it's killing off and/or vilification of just about every character was the whole point of that anime, a giant morally ambiguous mash up of characters that aren't for the most part likable, and aren't really supposed to be.
That said I am so glad I am done watching that horror of an anime, I guess it must have had a compelling enough of a story (or maybe it was just such a magnificent train wreck) it succeeded at what it set out to do I suspect so it still gets my kudos even if I hate it.
Avatar of Justice
07-31-2009, 04:03 PM
Kallen? I mean seriously, she was basically a fangirl with a giant robot who had no idea about anything and had was less loyal than fricken Starscream when the chips were down.
What? She was the only one who pretty much remained loyal to Lelouch and held out hope that he wasn't a total bastard who had used the Black Knights for nefarious ends. Her kiss certainly didn't say "I HATE YOU!" to me.
Code Geass 2nd season dragged a bit (China arc I'm looking at you), but I loved it overall. Lelouch is one of two male characters that I would be gay for (the other being Gaius Baltar from Battlestar Galactica). :-) The fact that you can't really pin him down into any archetype besides Magnificent Bastard makes him totally awesome.
TheSnowStorm
07-31-2009, 07:25 PM
have you read the books
Since when do black men read books?
All ignorant and borderline racist shit aside, no I haven't despite I found a website where somebody has already uploaded most of the books' text. Heard the books are the best of the three Haruhi-related media (the manga[which is pure boring shit]), the anime[which I enjoyed very much], and the books[which I have yet to read].)
I also found a song that can basically detail Endless Eight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPjjnfGKrPc
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-31-2009, 10:11 PM
So... Yeah...
Still going on.
I just lost another 24 minutes of my life.
I-n-j-i-n
08-01-2009, 09:43 AM
As an idea for reading Endless Eight might be cool, but you can read through the entire thing in a night. In a weekly 30 minute show, this is not fun nor a good idea to keep an audience attached. At all.
Also, something like that might make sense if it is a gripping mystery. But it isn't. It's about Haruhi, the totally ignorant ditz she is, to stop exploiting the time warp. That is really not a mystery at all... And I have a feeling that no matter how good the conclusion is, it won't make up for the slaving of time.
Honestly, out of maybe 30 anime shows I'm currently following right now, I actually dread watching Haruhi the most. I even like some pretty crappily made shows over Haruhi. At least I'm watching something new for most anime out there.
Dr.Flintlock
08-07-2009, 07:32 AM
I went ahead and picked up Mamoru Oshi's Latest, little film called The Sky Crawlers. Just watched it last time when I was feeling a little more melancholy than usual. You usually have to be in a certain mood when watching his movies as their narrative structure's pretty different from most anime I've seen. In any case, traditionally interesting philosophical points, poignant characterizations, and some lovely animation made it into quite the movie.
Also, I guess Ponyo: On the Cliff By the Sea, Miyazaki's latest film, is set to hit theaters Friday the 14th. Anyone else as excited as I am?
OverCoat
08-07-2009, 08:33 AM
I reviewed that "Toward the Terra" anime I was talking about:
http://www.animeremix.org/animix_forums/viewtopic.php?id=2161
I-n-j-i-n
08-08-2009, 04:16 PM
I went ahead and picked up Mamoru Oshi's Latest, little film called The Sky Crawlers. Just watched it last time when I was feeling a little more melancholy than usual. You usually have to be in a certain mood when watching his movies as their narrative structure's pretty different from most anime I've seen. In any case, traditionally interesting philosophical points, poignant characterizations, and some lovely animation made it into quite the movie.
Also, I guess Ponyo: On the Cliff By the Sea, Miyazaki's latest film, is set to hit theaters Friday the 14th. Anyone else as excited as I am?
Sky Crawlers was pretty decent and it was basically melancholic to be melancholic it seemed. There's a movie out, Moon, that basically has the same plot twist as Sky Crawlers.
As for Ponyo, I watched it a while ago and honestly, aside from the amazing visuals having to do with the seas, I was pretty disappointed. There's not much of a plot turn and it ends pretty abruptly and without much explanation for anything. Miyazaki movies always end a bit abruptly, but Ponyo might take the cake for that.
Dr.Flintlock
08-09-2009, 06:17 AM
Sky Crawlers was pretty decent and it was basically melancholic to be melancholic it seemed. There's a movie out, Moon, that basically has the same plot twist as Sky Crawlers.
As for Ponyo, I watched it a while ago and honestly, aside from the amazing visuals having to do with the seas, I was pretty disappointed. There's not much of a plot turn and it ends pretty abruptly and without much explanation for anything. Miyazaki movies always end a bit abruptly, but Ponyo might take the cake for that.
Oh bummer. It is true a lot of his films do seem to end pretty abruptly (I'm looking at you Porco Rosso), but I guess I tend to dismiss this pretty much as I watch a lot of animated stuff because it looks pretty, even if the plot's a bit lacking.
That being said, I have seen Moon and I did see the resemblence with plot twists, but I think Moon ended pretty abruptly too. I enjoyed that one more so due to Kevin Spacey's HAL-like robot intelligence.
Back on topic, I think my big drawing point with Sky Crawlers was the actual scenes of aircraft flying about, and the commentary about "The Teacher" and such. The overall message in the film was good, but I will say that you're right, it did seem to be melancholic for melancholic's sake.
I-n-j-i-n
08-09-2009, 08:13 AM
It still was a pretty good movie. Not like Oshii's 'technobabble for technobabble sakes' stuff with all his Ghost in the Shell movies. At least with the angst this time, it was very tangible. Even if the REASON why the European nations adopted JAPANESE pilots to fight PROXY wars. I can't ever figure that out. They never explained. Emotionwise though, it was spot on.
As for Ponyo, I'd say it's still worth a watch at least for the amazing visuals. If there was a more complete ocean based anime movie, I'd say it's My Beautiful Girl Mari, but Ponyo will poke your eyes out with the prettiness.
TheSnowStorm
08-10-2009, 05:55 AM
Heard Endless Eights is over.
Now is the series worth watching again?
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
08-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Yeah it's finally over. Whether or not the series is still worth watching is yet to be seen though. EE had a stupid ending after all.
Brushfire
08-10-2009, 01:12 PM
Ponyo sucked, like most Miyazaki films. I saw it as part of a double feature with some other movie@( I think it was Major Dramatic Baseball Movie, seriously that is the name of the movie.) Both were a profound waste of time. Ponyo did have some nice visuals, but it was still anincoherant mess that most of his films are.
Let the hate begin.
OverCoat
08-11-2009, 05:02 AM
Ponyo sucked, like most Miyazaki films.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8467/youmadt.jpg
Azuth
08-11-2009, 05:08 AM
Yeah it's finally over. Whether or not the series is still worth watching is yet to be seen though. EE had a stupid ending after all.
I think the stupid ending is more due to how the story was handled than anything. In the light novels, Endless Eight is just a one chapter story, at maybe a 20 minute read, so the ending was perfectly satisfactory to me in that context. Now when they somehow manage to drag it out over 2 months worth of copy/paste TV episodes, then it's incredibly underwhelming.
If they stick to the novels without doing anything crazy, the rest of the season should be enjoyable though.
I-n-j-i-n
08-13-2009, 09:03 AM
Ponyo sucked, like most Miyazaki films. I saw it as part of a double feature with some other movie@( I think it was Major Dramatic Baseball Movie, seriously that is the name of the movie.) Both were a profound waste of time. Ponyo did have some nice visuals, but it was still anincoherant mess that most of his films are.
Let the hate begin.
No hate, because I agree 100%. Miyazaki movies, as classics they tend to be, are quite overhyped. Even though not many ambitious anime exists out there that boasts Miyazaki visuals, the story is all over the place with most Miyazaki movies.
And Ponyo had amazing ambience but almost no real meat to the story. And the 'finale' thudded to the ground like a heavy stone. Weird story pacing.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
08-13-2009, 05:28 PM
Why do people fire their load all over Miyazaki stuff?
Princess Mononoke was weak, and Spirited Away was meh...
relyanCe
08-13-2009, 05:56 PM
anyone else hear about the new Evangelion remake? It's been making a theatre run throughout the US and Canada for a few months, but has yet to reach me here in FL.
Yeah, the original was a mindscrew of epic proportions, but the preview trailer just looks amazing technically, so i'll probably see it if/when it hits the sunshine state.
Meteo Xavier
08-13-2009, 06:13 PM
No hate, because I agree 100%. Miyazaki movies, as classics they tend to be, are quite overhyped. Even though not many ambitious anime exists out there that boasts Miyazaki visuals, the story is all over the place with most Miyazaki movies.
I have never agreed with a comment less. Does it not seem logical that that might the point with Miyazaki, then?
Why does a film have to be one thing or another besides what it is? You're not talking about a sloppy amateur film made by a film student, you're talking about a professionally made film by a world renowned creator. What other credentials does he need to have before you can just sit and enjoy a movie like it was intended instead of playing Toronto Film Festival Chief Judge?
Some movies you just sit and WATCH. Some do not require certain linearity to flow from beginning to end. With Miyazaki, you just sit and watch and thats how you enjoy. Thats what made Spirited Away incredible.
cobaltstarfire
08-13-2009, 08:43 PM
anyone else hear about the new Evangelion remake? It's been making a theatre run throughout the US and Canada for a few months, but has yet to reach me here in FL.
Yeah, the original was a mindscrew of epic proportions, but the preview trailer just looks amazing technically, so i'll probably see it if/when it hits the sunshine state.
I saw the first movie, it was pretty good, basically the same as the first angels up to just before Asuka shows up. I think it does a much better job than the original anime did in terms of expanding the characters and making some of the angels a bit more interesting while not diverging too far from it.
I've heard the next few movies are going to more wildly move away from the original content, I look forward to seeing it if it's as good as the first one was anyway.
That said Ponyo doesn't look interesting to me at all, but my cousin is likely going to drag me out to see it.
I like Miyazaki movies, I agree some of them were kind of meh, but all of them I've been able to at least enjoy the ride. I don't personally find them difficult to follow and understand most of the time, and even if the endings are often sudden, they fit with what's been going on fine enough for me.
I don't really care if other people don't like them though, that's their opinion after all it doesn't make someones taste better or worse, just different.
That said Ponyo doesn't look interesting to me at all, but my cousin will undoubtedly drag me to see it eventually.
Tmansdc
08-13-2009, 09:21 PM
I'm sorta into anime but really need to get more into it as I plan to go to AX and comic-con next year.
Jack&TheBox
08-14-2009, 01:40 AM
Thought I'd pop by and mention an anime I just started watching:
Seto no Hanayome
I haven't laughed so hard, or so consistently, at something in a long, long time. Check it out.
I-n-j-i-n
08-14-2009, 08:24 AM
I have never agreed with a comment less. Does it not seem logical that that might the point with Miyazaki, then?
Why does a film have to be one thing or another besides what it is? You're not talking about a sloppy amateur film made by a film student, you're talking about a professionally made film by a world renowned creator. What other credentials does he need to have before you can just sit and enjoy a movie like it was intended instead of playing Toronto Film Festival Chief Judge?
Some movies you just sit and WATCH. Some do not require certain linearity to flow from beginning to end. With Miyazaki, you just sit and watch and thats how you enjoy. Thats what made Spirited Away incredible.
I wouldn't really say that I hate Miyazaki movies really, because I do think 99% of the times, it is an incredible watch. Even if the story falls apart like in Howl's Moving Castle (which apparently butchered the original book's story), it was still a very convincing watch.
I don't think his stuff is amateurish really. They still are all classics even to my eyes. It's just that his storytelling techniques really aren't the epitome the anime medium could reach. Especially with Ponyo, where the end-game really does not really exist, you could see the fault in that. Though again, the experience is so mesmerizing, it almost doesn't matter.
But I still think anime as a movie experience hasn't reached that ceiling of compelling visuals + amazing storytelling. Even Oshii movies have the 'long-droning-technobabble+weird-philosophizing' thing going on, even at their height.
The only thing that gets me is when some reviews cite his works as perfect or complete. To me, it would be if the storytelling comes together better and more concisely. Some movies like The Girl Who Leapt Through Time came very close, though that movie's end-game was an epic trainwreck.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
08-14-2009, 12:24 PM
Looks like it's time for a thread merge.
Avatar of Justice
08-14-2009, 01:34 PM
Check out The Place Promised in Our Early Days. It's a very very beautiful anime movie and one of my favorite movies period. It deals with themes of longing, loss, and betraying the dreams of childhood as you grow into adulthood.
Check out The Place Promised in Our Early Days. It's a very very beautiful anime movie and one of my favorite movies period. It deals with themes of longing, loss, and betraying the dreams of childhood as you grow into adulthood.
I second anything done by Makoto Shinkai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makoto_Shinkai). Some of the prettiest visuals I've seen.
I-n-j-i-n
08-16-2009, 10:43 AM
For Shinkai, 5 Centimeters Per Second is his best and most recent one so far.
Thankfully, he's letting other character designers do the character art for him now. When he tried to do it all by himself with Voices of a Distant Star, while it was innovative and all, you could tell he can't draw humans for crap. lol
Animaster
08-16-2009, 05:55 PM
If you don't mind my asking, has anyone ever seen Azumanga Daioh? I saw a few episodes and thought it was hilarious. I especially love Osaka.
k-wix
08-16-2009, 10:17 PM
If you don't mind my asking, has anyone ever seen Azumanga Daioh? I saw a few episodes and thought it was hilarious. I especially love Osaka.
Probably my #1 anime, some of the funniest stuff i have ever seen.
Animaster
08-16-2009, 11:53 PM
Cool. Along with Osaka, I find Sakaki to be rather funny as well with her obsession with cats and cuteness. Of course I love cats as well(you would be surprised at how many I have).
Caster13
08-17-2009, 01:35 AM
I can (poorly) play some of the soundtrack on the violin.
Gollgagh
08-17-2009, 02:43 AM
If you don't mind my asking, has anyone ever seen Azumanga Daioh?
anyone
it's like the first thing everyone watches
also Kasuga is mine
Animaster
08-17-2009, 03:31 AM
Osaka's gotta be one of the funniest anime characters I've ever seen(I rarely watch anime, so, that's not a lot of characters).
DJ Mighty
08-17-2009, 04:45 AM
i know its kinda old but i still love Ranma 1/2. Classic stuff right there.
Meteo Xavier
08-17-2009, 06:00 AM
It's just that his storytelling techniques really aren't the epitome the anime medium could reach.
But I still think anime as a movie experience hasn't reached that ceiling of compelling visuals + amazing storytelling.
This way of explaining it is far more reasonable. I even agree to a point, I'm just saying if a movie has to be judged, it should be judged with other things in mind than just academic terms.
This is largely my problem with critics altogether.
They are critics.
They used to be people who enjoyed the medium of entertainment profusely until they decided to take jobs talking about them. Now they watch all the elements a movie comprises, but not the movie themselves. They go IN looking for cogs and wheels instead of just looking at the damn clock.
I could go on and on, but mostly I want to get back to my point that sometimes movies just WORK as they are and to let something vague like "storytelling" get in the way is the exact opposite of why someone should be watching movies at all.
Arrow
08-17-2009, 07:30 AM
I have never seen Azumanga Daioh, but this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftAMtTH6mKQ) done killed me.
I-n-j-i-n
08-17-2009, 07:57 AM
This way of explaining it is far more reasonable. I even agree to a point, I'm just saying if a movie has to be judged, it should be judged with other things in mind than just academic terms.
This is largely my problem with critics altogether.
They are critics.
They used to be people who enjoyed the medium of entertainment profusely until they decided to take jobs talking about them. Now they watch all the elements a movie comprises, but not the movie themselves. They go IN looking for cogs and wheels instead of just looking at the damn clock.
I could go on and on, but mostly I want to get back to my point that sometimes movies just WORK as they are and to let something vague like "storytelling" get in the way is the exact opposite of why someone should be watching movies at all.
Well, I guess I've long since entered the 'critic mode' since I'm so into the entire genre of anime now. Though it's ironic since I even watch crappy shows just to be a completionist about it.
But either way, the one thing that Miyazaki is simply uncontested is with his visual imagery and the art of actual animating things. To me, there has been way worse animated shows but with better story pacing and the actual act of telling a story.
I'm way more torn over the fact that people consider Oshii one of the big names in anime movie making, because his movies have since fallen into "Oshii-isms" with his profuse love for cigarettes and Basset Hounds. lol. Oh, and passing off consistent rant/banter/technobabble as actually palatable dialog. Apparently, a lot of people do. I do think he has his chops as an anime director, but IMO he has way more flaws that gets into the way of digesting a story than Miyazaki. With Miyazaki, it's usually being way too terse and mythical about plot progression in general.
Brycepops
08-17-2009, 10:01 AM
Hokuto no Ken.
OverCoat
08-17-2009, 10:12 AM
I'm way more torn over the fact that people consider Oshii one of the big names in anime movie making, because his movies have since fallen into "Oshii-isms" with his profuse love for cigarettes and Basset Hounds.
Oddly enough, I just finished WXIII [the third Patlabor movie] and yes, there's lots of cigarettes, haha.
I'm confused though - it really had nothing to do with Patlabor except that the original cast showed up as like, extras. And there's no real point to them being there, the patlabors themselves don't even show up until the movie's almost over. Still, I liked the old detective from the series and other movies, it was cool they made a movie for him :3 but someone seeing this movie without knowing the connection to Patlabor would be like "lol wut"
DJ Mighty
08-17-2009, 02:07 PM
Ponyo sucked, like most Miyazaki films.
Let the hate begin.
no hate, i could say that about 95% of the anime i have ever seen. I am a huge fan of Miyazaki films and enjoyed Ponyo a lot. In a age where traditional animation is dying he still manages to come out with great stuff. I guess its not for everyone though. To be honest, though it is considered anime, i dont categorize his work with it.
Avatar of Justice
08-17-2009, 04:58 PM
I'm currently rewatching Tylor with my new roommate. God, I love Andressen and Cryburn. Also rewatching Gundam SEED. It's funny, but damn if SEED doesn't have some crappy animation compared to Tylor.
relyanCe
08-17-2009, 06:34 PM
Started watching Darker Than Black a few days ago
its awesome
go watch it
now
Brycepops
09-13-2009, 12:10 PM
Some of the guys over at Hokuto no Gun (The people who've been subbing Souten no Ken) have begun to sub Kinnikuman O_O
http://hokutoarmy.wordpress.com/
Kinslayer
09-13-2009, 02:20 PM
Well, what I'm watching right now in Anime is actually old...I started feeling nostalgic for shows I enjoyed in my youth and started watching Yu-Gi-Oh again...I just really liked the original series when I was a kid...I've also watched Elfen Lied, Trinity Blood, and Blue Gender recently, all good bloody series that were excellent, although Blue Gender kind of freaked me out.
OverCoat
09-14-2009, 04:02 PM
You saw Elfen Lied and Blue Gender... and Blue Gender was the one that freaked you out?
Well, I guess the vagina monsters were pretty weird. I didn't like the ending, it could've been way better.
p.s. my buddy mDuo13 (http://mduo13.com/) posted a review of "Chi's Sweet Home" over at Anime Remix (http://www.animeremix.org/animix_forums/viewtopic.php?id=2168)
Thin Crust
09-14-2009, 11:49 PM
So I just got through the first 5ive episodes of 07-Ghost. And I'm loving it. It has the animation style as Code Geass, with the feel of Trinity Blood. Anyone else see this one yet?
Brushfire
09-15-2009, 02:21 AM
Anime still sucks.
Unless it was Speed Grapher.
I-n-j-i-n
09-15-2009, 07:55 AM
So I just got through the first 5ive episodes of 07-Ghost. And I'm loving it. It has the animation style as Code Geass, with the feel of Trinity Blood. Anyone else see this one yet?
I do. It has a great atmosphere, even if it feels a bit too shonen-ish. There's a LOT of training for the Bishop exam and all...
Otherwise it's a pretty good watch. Though it's one of like 40 anime I'm following..
Native Jovian
09-16-2009, 05:02 AM
It has the animation style as Code Geass, with the feel of Trinity Blood.
I think this is the worst compliment I've ever heard in reference to an anime.
duskvstweak
09-16-2009, 05:08 AM
I just watched Outlaw Star and Samurai Champloo this summer. I liked them both (Champloo preferred). Right now, I'm watching Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood on Hulu and I'm loving it.
Kinslayer
09-16-2009, 06:49 AM
Anime still sucks.
Unless it was Speed Grapher.
:tomatoface:Take that Brushfire...
Blue Gender freaked me out more about the humanity of it, and the main character...and the truth about the sleepers...I didn't like Blue Gender after the Blood changed from red to purple
Brushfire
09-16-2009, 03:00 PM
I really wish anime had some sorta Quality Control to prevent terrible pans of a single loop of animation.
The reason I bring this up, is because I was rewatching Air Gear, and it's animation is horrid. I rember it being decent back in the day. But now, it is garbage.
Like most anime.
Kinslayer
09-16-2009, 10:22 PM
Oh Brushfire!!! :tomatoface::tomatoface:
Anyway, Anime doesn't need quality control, you just have to get used to the idea that it is alot simpler than Western Style animation, and yet more complex at the same time, anime uses roughly 1/3 of the frames used in a Western animation, and yet can do so much more...Anime just acts more realistic, most cartoons are out there, strange, crazy, meant to be diverse, most animes act as though they were filmed...kinda like a movie or TV show...and there are some great animation styles in anime, you just haven't found one that you like, or you let your creative side die...besides, anime characters are fun to imitate...I'd like to get angry someday and have my head take up an entire frame...
TheSnowStorm
09-16-2009, 11:52 PM
Gotta question: Why is that oh-so-popular song "God Knows"...is titled that? Something my friend asked me which I had to bullshit through.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
09-16-2009, 11:58 PM
It has to do with the actual song lyrics.
And the fact that they say it a few times in the actual song.
Subete wo God knows literally means God knows everything.
TheSnowStorm
09-17-2009, 12:04 AM
Okay, that's good to know, I guess. My theory was gonna be seeing the main character is god-like, I assume it was about Haruhi.
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 12:08 AM
well, than there's a falling then, Haruhi, while God-like, definitely is not omniscient...
TheSnowStorm
09-17-2009, 12:12 AM
I wonder, seeing Haruhi (unknowing) wraps reality to an extreme, I wonder what would to happen to the world if she die a violent death by something who wanted to cause chaos or some shit.
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 12:16 AM
I dunno, go kill her and lets see
TheSnowStorm
09-17-2009, 12:19 AM
I dunno, go kill her and lets see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXd3F1kH2Vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBszNDdCIoo
Okay, so as we can see here, she's gonna have a closed casket funeral.
OverCoat
09-17-2009, 02:39 AM
Oh Brushfire!!! :tomatoface::tomatoface:
Anyway, Anime doesn't need quality control
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7599/animemangaepicdrawingfa.jpg
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 03:23 AM
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7599/animemangaepicdrawingfa.jpg
And we have here the first stills of the New Season of Shin-Chan!!! As you can see, our hero has had himself a sex change and some facial modification, but at least we can tell it's human now...
Okay, SOME quality control...XD
Brushfire
09-17-2009, 03:37 AM
Oh Brushfire!!! :tomatoface::tomatoface:
Anyway, Anime does need quality control. Anime just acts more realistic, most cartoons are out there, strange, crazy, meant to be diverse,
Realistic eh?
Is that why physics are all poopy in every anime. Also all anime has those stupid freakout things where d00ds get punched really far and stuff.
Totally realistic.
How about that anime where d00ds fight at redicualously high power levels never seen before. Totally realistic.
I know I am splitting hairs but still.
Anime needs quality visuals, a coherent plot, and three dimensional characters. Most only get 1 of 3 right. And it usually isn't #2.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
09-17-2009, 03:38 AM
That's from the first Kanon, isn't it?
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 04:02 AM
Realistic eh?
Is that why physics are all poopy in every anime. Also all anime has those stupid freakout things where d00ds get punched really far and stuff.
Totally realistic.
How about that anime where d00ds fight at redicualously high power levels never seen before. Totally realistic.
I know I am splitting hairs but still.
Anime needs quality visuals, a coherent plot, and three dimensional characters. Most only get 1 of 3 right. And it usually isn't #2.
I was talking style, not anywhere in that did I mention storyline, plot, or action sequences, anime is more linear in the fact that it produces realistic looking backdrops, buildings, places, and in some instances, normal people...it also adds texture, and regardless of your opinion of it, it's everywhere, most RPG's these days follow Anime storylines, or use Anime for the cutscenes and such, you cannot deny it's popularity, if you don't agree with it, than you don't have to watch it. Plain as that, I'm not holding a gun to your head and turning Sy Fy on Monday nights so you can watch it.
Kenobio
09-17-2009, 04:11 AM
hahahaha what the hell
cobaltstarfire
09-17-2009, 04:13 AM
Most anime does not have realistic looking people by any stretch of the imagination.
And if you think it does, I have a few figure drawing classes full of nudes you should attend so you can learn the concept of correct human proportion among other things.
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 04:15 AM
um, hence the reasoning behind the word "SOME"
cobaltstarfire
09-17-2009, 04:23 AM
If by "some" you mean a small handfull that is extremely negligible and has little baring on the majority of anime.
Kenobio
09-17-2009, 04:24 AM
http://www.ocremix.org/forums/images/avatars/anime/mohs_kyon.gifhttp://www.ocremix.org/forums/images/avatars/anime/mohs_kyon.gifhttp://www.ocremix.org/forums/images/avatars/anime/mohs_kyon.gifhttp://www.ocremix.org/forums/images/avatars/anime/mohs_kyon.gif
relyanCe
09-17-2009, 04:31 AM
who hijacked the anime thread to talk about realism
I wanna know who
cobaltstarfire
09-17-2009, 04:39 AM
I dunno, I like anime, but it's a little silly to tell someone they should like anime just because of it's stylistic elements (be they realistic or otherwise).
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 05:18 AM
so that's just as inaccurate as someone who likes Anime because the characters actually seem MORE human than they do in live action TV/Film? That's my main reason for liking anime, I like the characters better, and the themes...I only brought in the thought of realism because anime as a genre is alot more realistic than Bugs Bunny...geez, I was just making a point...
And Brushfire, I'm sorry I got on your ass about it, okay bud...
OverCoat
09-17-2009, 07:13 AM
I like mecha anime:roll:
see? there we go, someone with a little sense, finally
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 07:21 AM
I have plenty of sense...I just like anime for different things...I guess I'm just too deep a thinker for most people to comprehend.
I-n-j-i-n
09-17-2009, 07:42 AM
I don't know about anime being realistic, but they have much more liberty to experiment than almost any other medium and still be accepted in the mainstream for it.
Also, since it IS animation, there usually are none of the celebrity image politics game like in many actual TV shows. Though there's still some seiyuu/voice actor drama.
Kinslayer
09-17-2009, 10:06 AM
or the dubs have terrible actors...that's one of Anime's few downfalls...sometimes they pick the wrong people for voiceovers.
TheSnowStorm
09-17-2009, 12:36 PM
Fictional pieces of media just HAS to have realism. Look it what that is doing to video games.
Brushfire
09-17-2009, 01:10 PM
I didn't mean to sound like I was putting words in your mouth Yasha. I am just overly critical of everything.
ANOTHER SOUNDSCAPE said it best when he said "You think everything sucks till it prooves itself good."
Also Mecha anime is good when it is done right. And Gundam Wing is not right.
DarkeSword
09-17-2009, 01:57 PM
I have plenty of sense...I just like anime for different things...I guess I'm just too deep a thinker for most people to comprehend.
No, you aren't.
Brushfire
09-17-2009, 04:22 PM
Anime, more like WAHHHHHHNIME.
YUK YUK YUK YUK.
relyanCe
09-17-2009, 08:29 PM
No, you aren't.
Sword'ed!!
Kinslayer
09-18-2009, 07:16 AM
No, you aren't.
If only Gluttony from FMA were real, I'd totally let him eat you...
DarkeSword
09-18-2009, 01:31 PM
If only Gluttony from FMA were real, I'd totally let him eat you...
I'm sorry. That's too deep for me to comprehend.
atmuh
09-18-2009, 02:19 PM
hahahahahahahahahaha
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
09-18-2009, 02:31 PM
Are you fucking five years old, Yashafan?
Kinslayer
09-18-2009, 11:23 PM
No I'm not 5 years old, I just edited the post because I was throwing knives at a certain pretentious, full of himself ass *cough*DarkeSword*cough* and I changed it because it was kind of harsh...I can't stand people that judge other people, and I especially can't stand people with their nose in the air...which, from what I hear alot on the forums is that pretentious, full of himself ass definitely thinks he's too good to even join a discussion without throwing an insult at someone.
Brushfire
09-18-2009, 11:47 PM
Ever since I was a young boy, I played the Silver Ball,
From Off Topic to the WIP boards, I must have played them all,
I aint seen nothing like him in anime hall.
That Yashafan d00d SURE PLAYS A MEAN PINBALL!!
But no seriously, I was watching Rosario Vampire, and that shit sucks...
...Your blood...
YUK YUK YUK
Fishy
09-19-2009, 12:01 AM
No I'm not 5 years old, I just edited the post because I was throwing knives at a certain pretentious, full of himself ass *cough*DarkeSword*cough* and I changed it because it was kind of harsh...I can't stand people that judge other people, and I especially can't stand people with their nose in the air...which, from what I hear alot on the forums is that pretentious, full of himself ass definitely thinks he's too good to even join a discussion without throwing an insult at someone.
Protip: DarkeSword is a bad choice of person to call a pretentious ass.
maniater
09-19-2009, 12:09 AM
Im watching Umineko ^_^ also a bit of Spice and Wolf 2! Man lots of good ones.
cobaltstarfire
09-19-2009, 06:53 AM
No I'm not 5 years old, I just edited the post because I was throwing knives at a certain pretentious, full of himself ass *cough*DarkeSword*cough* and I changed it because it was kind of harsh...I can't stand people that judge other people, and I especially can't stand people with their nose in the air...which, from what I hear alot on the forums is that pretentious, full of himself ass definitely thinks he's too good to even join a discussion without throwing an insult at someone.
You shouldn't throw rocks in glass houses.
It looks like Darkesword is just calling it how it is heh.
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 07:30 AM
Nice rhyming Brushfire...
but seriously, all debate with Darkesword aside, let's get back on topic and talk anime...does anyone have any recommendations from the new stuff that's worth watching? I haven't found an anime worth wasting time on in a while
OverCoat
09-19-2009, 07:48 AM
Well it depends
What are you looking for, action? slice of life? romance? it's hard to say just "anime" since it's not really a genre, it's just a medium.
I mean I could tell you to watch what I'm watching, Sketchbook Full Color'S, but I dunno if you like slow meandering plot involving girls with social anxiety disorders and cats.
I do though. so fucking cute I could just die
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 08:04 AM
I dunno, I'm gay, so I'd probably watch it...lolz...but seriously, I like a little action, some drama, some blood, and just enough of that cutesy anime flair to enjoy...
Just curious, is Haruhi season 2 any good? I haven't really wanted to start it yet.
OverCoat
09-19-2009, 08:06 AM
I like a little action, some drama, some blood, and just enough of that cutesy anime flair to enjoy...
sounds like you're ready for Black Lagoon (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6159)
unless you've already seen it in which case ISNT IT TOTALLY AWESOME
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 08:09 AM
cool, I'll give it a whirl sometime tonight then...
(and what did you mean by giving zircon physical attention in the Mag thread?!)
and just curious, are you a guy or a girl?
atmuh
09-19-2009, 08:12 AM
cool, I'll give it a whirl sometime tonight then...
(and what did you mean by giving zircon physical attention in the Mag thread?!)
and just curious, are you a guy or a girl?
a girl
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 08:29 AM
yeah, the name under her username kinda threw me off...lolz
atmuh
09-19-2009, 08:37 AM
keep typing lolz its adorable
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 08:40 AM
Is the anime Blood+ any good? I've been wanting to watch it, but have yet to find it in good quality online...
Brycepops
09-19-2009, 08:42 AM
Is the anime Blood+ any good? I've been wanting to watch it, but have yet to find it in good quality online...
I used to watch it when it was on Adult Swim. I thought it was pretty good.
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 08:49 AM
yeah, I'll check Dubbed-Scene again and see if they have it, I think they do.
OverCoat
09-19-2009, 08:50 AM
and just curious, are you a guy or a girl?
what
look at my name bro
atmuh
09-19-2009, 08:52 AM
what
look at my name bro
dont worry man i took care of it for ya
Hector
09-19-2009, 01:23 PM
I've got a question for anyone who has seen Elfen Lied:
Is the sound supposed to be screwed up a little? I can hardly even hear the Japanese much of the time.
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 02:34 PM
I'd tell you but I don't watch many subbed episodes, I prefer the dubbed...if you watch the dub there's no sound problems that I know of, although most streams are so high quality that there's alot of hot audio pops in the background...
Kenobio
09-19-2009, 03:01 PM
good dubs are pretty friggin' hard to find
SlickDaddySlick
09-19-2009, 04:49 PM
So I friend of mines got me into Lucky Star.
I am sadden to say this but, I need to do some pop culture resource now seeing Lucky Star makes fun of everything about pop culture.
Kinslayer
09-19-2009, 05:33 PM
@ Kenobio, Elfen Lied was dubbed really well, the voices were really well done, especially the difference between Lucy and Nyu....
@SlickDaddySlick, Congrats, I haven't seen Lucky Star myself, but I've heard of it...I may go back and watch it one of these days, if I'm not bogged down with others.
Cáidh
09-19-2009, 05:44 PM
congrats more like good freaking luck
atmuh
09-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Lucky Star
among the few anime actually worth watching
Fishy
09-19-2009, 10:54 PM
So I enjoy a few types of anime, but I'm generally drawn to the lighter situational type series with kinda silly humour. For example the most recent thing I watched was Minami-Ke; I also enjoyed Full Metal Panic (can't stand Alchemist), Chobits, Great Teacher Onizuka , that type of thing. Also a huge Studio Ghibli fan.
Can anyone recommend any other series I might enjoy based on those?
Native Jovian
09-19-2009, 11:27 PM
I never saw the point of sitcom/slice of life type anime. If that's what you're looking for, why aren't you just watching live-action versions? (That said, I'm not a big fan of those sorts of shows regardless of the medium, so whatever.) Most of the anime I watch is sci-fi or fantasy-ish; you know, the sort of thing that would be completely impossible to do live-action without either a) looking like ass or b) having a ridiculously huge budget.
Someone mentioned Black Lagoon earlier; it's got scads of violence and bad language and all of the sorts of things that soccer moms are terrified of exposing their precious babies to, and completely and utterly lacks anything remotely resembling "cutesy", so I don't really think that's what you're looking for. It's a pretty good series overall, though the second season went downhill when it became The Rock And Revy Show and every other character was kicked into the background without comment.
Fishy
09-19-2009, 11:47 PM
Uh, I would've thought it's pretty obvious that anime has a completely different feel and demeanor from live action in any genre. Like any animation, it allows you to exaggerate and dramatize the simplest of things.
Also Miname Ke is the only one of those things I listed that I'd describe as slice-of-life. The others have at least some sci-fi or fantasy elements core to their story, and Ghibli is as fantasy as it gets. Basically I'm just asking for anything with some funny moments that isn't too serious.
cobaltstarfire
09-20-2009, 12:52 AM
You might like Card Captor Sakura >.>
Or XXXHolic
They're both by CLAMP, CCS is a bit more Shoujou, but since CLAMP really likes genere/audience mixing I'm not sure if you'll notice much. You might be safer with Holic, it's Seinen or whatever (I sort of don't like CLAMPS shift to creepy noodle people though).
I'm also not sure if they'd be slice of life enough for you, but I guess you can give them a shot.
Maybe try Fruitsbasket?
Sorry I'm picking out girly things, but I'm a girl so yeah, that'll happen :P
DarkeSword
09-20-2009, 01:26 AM
No I'm not 5 years old, I just edited the post because I was throwing knives at a certain pretentious, full of himself ass *cough*DarkeSword*cough* and I changed it because it was kind of harsh...I can't stand people that judge other people, and I especially can't stand people with their nose in the air...which, from what I hear alot on the forums is that pretentious, full of himself ass definitely thinks he's too good to even join a discussion without throwing an insult at someone.
Who's throwing insults?
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 02:00 AM
I dunno, definitely not me anymore Darkesword, I've decided to be nice...even when people get on my bad side, after all, we're online...
yeah, I've tried the manga of most of those...didn't like 'em...
And remember, Elfen Lied was violent, and bloody, and had bad language, but Nyu sure was cute!
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
09-20-2009, 02:01 AM
I can't wait for the realization to settle in.
DarkeSword
09-20-2009, 02:05 AM
I dunno, definitely not me anymore Darkesword
Well that's not true. I'm pretty sure you insulted me quite a bit there.
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 02:35 AM
yeah, but what I did and what I'm doing now are two completely different things...I don't like being insulted, and I don't like throwing insults...I've seen something in Offtop go completely out of hand, and after that, insulting people only makes things worse, so therefore I'm just going to post and enjoy myself.
So Black Lagoon anyone? Caught it offchance and loved it....any more recommendations along this line?
(tl to read 20 pages of posts)
DarkeSword
09-20-2009, 02:48 AM
yeah, but what I did and what I'm doing now are two completely different things...I don't like being insulted, and I don't like throwing insults...I've seen something in Offtop go completely out of hand, and after that, insulting people only makes things worse, so therefore I'm just going to post and enjoy myself.
You should apologize.
Black Lagoon is very, very good.
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 02:59 AM
I may have to check it out too, it seems to be being recommended alot in the last couple of days...
You should apologize.
Black Lagoon is very, very good.
I'm sorry?
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 03:37 AM
that was directed at me Red99, not you...
Native Jovian
09-20-2009, 04:04 AM
Also Miname Ke is the only one of those things I listed that I'd describe as slice-of-life.
Wasn't referring to you specifically with that comment; Lucky Star was mentioned last page and it's certainly a slice of life anime, at least. Although I was under the impression that Chobits and Great Teacher Onizuka were both pretty slice-of-life-y (though the former being "slice of life with a person-shaped computer android thing"), but I haven't seen them so I'll take your word for it.
Basically I'm just asking for anything with some funny moments that isn't too serious.
Oh? Well, in that case, try FLCL if you haven't already. I also watched the first few episodes of a series called Slap Up Party: Arad Senki a few months ago and that seemed to fit the bill, though I haven't watched past episode 5 or so so I have no idea if it eventually gets more serious, like a lot of anime tend to.
atmuh
09-20-2009, 04:09 AM
Well that's not true. I'm pretty sure you insulted me quite a bit there.
dude you gotta be nice he obviously cant read some people are just less fortunate ya know
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 04:31 AM
I can read quite well, thank you very much, I would know, I've been reading books bigger than your head since I was 9 years old...
anyways...
Chobits could be considered slice-of-life, but it's also a lesson in abstinence...XD
cobaltstarfire
09-20-2009, 04:36 AM
I can read quite well, thank you very much, I would know, I've been reading books bigger than your head since I was 9 years old...
anyways...
Chobits could be considered slice-of-life, but it's also a lesson in abstinence...XD
Be a boastful little prat isn't really going to impress many people, you're just going to make them pick on you more.
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 04:40 AM
it's not a boast, it's the truth...I've had a college reading level since I was 9 years old...the only reason I never got skipped any grades is because I talked too much...regardless of how much smarter I was, I've always been behind in maturity...*shrugs*
LuketheXjesse
09-20-2009, 04:52 AM
I had a super mature reading level as a kid too actually. I always had to read two grade levels higher than the other kids.
JoeFu
09-20-2009, 05:07 AM
is this a omg check how smart i am , lemme get an e-erection by saying how smart i am thread?
Zero Rei Maru
09-20-2009, 05:08 AM
I can read quite well, thank you very much, I would know, I've been reading books bigger than your head since I was 9 years old...
anyways...
Chobits could be considered slice-of-life, but it's also a lesson in abstinence...XD
Dude have you seen the size of atmuh's head? IT IS HUGE!
also chobits is that anime where the aliens come, but they're all like female love slaves right. because that was a hot anime
I'm sensing a trend here...
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 05:14 AM
You're close Zero, but also quite far off (that one's Dear S btw) Chobits takes place in the future where people invent human replica computers known as Persocoms to replace actual human relationships (other than actually having children of course) and it tells the story of a young man who finds the ultimate model known as a Chobit, who unlike other models doesn't have a reset button in her ear, but rather, it's located in her hoo-hah...unfortunately, resetting a Persocom gives them a whole new personality, hence the lesson in abstinence.
JoeFu
09-20-2009, 05:27 AM
I'm pretty sure Zero's right, I remember seeing green hair chick and pink hair chick in chobits, wtf is dears
Kenobio
09-20-2009, 05:30 AM
...the only reason I never got skipped any grades is because I talked too much...
You? Talk too much? No ways...
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 05:37 AM
Nope, Chobits is in no way, shape, form, or fashion about aliens...I've read and watched the whole series while I was in high school...Dear S is about alien women...
Dear S is CLAMP's most hentai-ish shojo manga they've ever produced...
Geoffrey Taucer
09-20-2009, 01:28 PM
it's not a boast, it's the truth...I've had a college reading level since I was 9 years old... and that was a whole year ago!
Hey look I fixed your post
You remind me of a guy who used to post here named MetalFantasy.
atmuh
09-20-2009, 01:31 PM
You remind me of a guy who used to post here named MetalFantasy.
holy crap youre right
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 02:28 PM
I'm suddenly reminded of why I hate people...
Brycepops
09-20-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm suddenly reminded of why I hate people...
Offtop != GenDisc. The mindset of people that post over there is different. It'd be wise to remember that :0 We like to rib each other in GenDisc, but in Offtop it's more like a slap to the balls.
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 02:55 PM
I don't care, it's fucking rude, if people talked to me like that IRL I'd beat the fucking shit out of them.
Native Jovian
09-20-2009, 04:56 PM
I'm digging all this awesome anime discussion in this thread guys.
It's awesome.
atmuh
09-20-2009, 05:47 PM
I'm digging all this awesome anime discussion in this thread guys.
It's awesome.
it could easily be fixed if one person would just stop carrying on
BUT ANYWAYS
i havent watched anything of haruhi season 2
is it all subbed or what i havent really been following anything
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 05:49 PM
yes, it is subbed, they haven't started working on an English dub, nor is one slated for release at the moment.
relyanCe
09-20-2009, 06:06 PM
Goin to see Evangelion 1.0 in a few weeks
i'm excited
Kinslayer
09-20-2009, 06:10 PM
pardon my ignorance, but is that related to Neon Genesis Evangelion, or is it seperate?
Just seen episode 5 of Umineko no Naku Koro ni.
WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS GOING ON!? 8O
relyanCe
09-20-2009, 07:47 PM
pardon my ignorance, but is that related to Neon Genesis Evangelion, or is it seperate?
its a remake tetralogy of NGE called rebuild of Evangelion
the first movie's english dub is playing in theatres currently
Kinslayer
09-21-2009, 03:56 AM
hmm, might have to go see it, NGE was a good show...the manga was quite well done too as I recall.
cobaltstarfire
09-21-2009, 04:24 AM
I hope it does well enough in theaters that all of them will eventually be released in theater.
Then I won't have to feel guilty searching for fan subs...
Native Jovian
09-21-2009, 04:38 AM
hmm, might have to go see it, NGE was a good show...
In what way, exactly? In that the characters were (deliberately) unlikable and unrelatable? In that the plot was nonsensical and the (endless amounts of) symbolism literally meaningless?
Or in that it presented itself in such a pretentious fashion that it successfully tricked an ungodly number of people into believing that those were good things?
The giant robots fighting aliens was pretty kickass, I'll give you that much. (Please don't lecture me about how they weren't really giant robots or aliens.) Too bad that that only took up a fraction of the show -- if that was the majority of it, I'd actually like the series.
cobaltstarfire
09-21-2009, 04:48 AM
Eh to each his own.
Eva isn't among my favorites (I don't really like it that much) but I think it's good at what it's aim is, and the Rebuild 1.0 did a much better job at it.
Actually you might like rebuild more than you liked the original, cause apparently it's more action oriented, and you want to see giant "Robots" fighting it out with giant "aliens" right. :P
Kinslayer
09-21-2009, 06:14 AM
Here's a thought, what series that were really short would you like to see extended/continued?
For me, Outlaw Star is definitely one I'd like to see continued.
LuketheXjesse
09-21-2009, 06:38 AM
Let's talk about anime soundtracks.
What are some REALLY good ones?
One rule: don't give me cruddy annoying j-pop, I want some really beautiful, melodic stuff here. Unless there's metal soundtracks, of course; share those too (unless it's cheezy butt rock reminiscent of DMC 4). The only Anime soundtrack I know of that is totally awesome is .hack//sign's soundtrack, composed by Yuki Kajiura.
REALLY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9LCRQrdMyA) GOOD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azuxnVHcVQc) STUFF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMcvZ3FT9lo) btw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5l3aBrCfQ).
Kinslayer
09-21-2009, 07:02 AM
DeathNote has a really melodic, cool soundtrack...lots of use of guitars, piano, and orchestral elements, not to mention a really good remix of the Exorcist used as the main theme for both L and Near.
I-n-j-i-n
09-21-2009, 07:18 AM
Eureka 7 probably has one of the most hip soundtracks ever. Also the core themes in the series are quite epic and done orchestrally.
The movie version has some really amazing tunes too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YxWyHvyWxA
LuketheXjesse
09-21-2009, 02:19 PM
Post youtube links of recommended songs, while you're at it.
Keep 'em coming, dudes.
The Damned
09-21-2009, 03:14 PM
So, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 ended... and they did some sort of bullshit fake-out thing with one of the characters.
Man, why are shows still doing that? It's a cheap attempt at drama and pulling at heart strings.
Geoffrey Taucer
09-21-2009, 05:19 PM
Let's talk about anime soundtracks.
What are some REALLY good ones?
One rule: don't give me cruddy annoying j-pop, I want some really beautiful, melodic stuff here. Unless there's metal soundtracks, of course; share those too (unless it's cheezy butt rock reminiscent of DMC 4). The only Anime soundtrack I know of that is totally awesome is .hack//sign's soundtrack, composed by Yuki Kajiura.
Anything by Yoko Kanno. Ghost in the Shell is my favorite, but Wolf's Rain is pretty sweet too.
By the way, is Eureka 7 any good subbed? All I've seen is the dubbed version that showed on Adult Swim, and the american voice acting was so obnoxiously whiney that I couldn't bear to watch it for more than a few minutes.
Schwaltzvald
09-21-2009, 05:26 PM
Anything by Yoko Kanno. Ghost in the Shell is my favorite, but Wolf's Rain is pretty sweet too.
By the way, is Eureka 7 any good subbed? All I've seen is the dubbed version that showed on Adult Swim, and the american voice acting was so obnoxiously whiney that I couldn't bear to watch it for more than a few minutes.
The subbed version was pretty good imo as I didn't get that whiney aspect which seems to be the case for the English dub...
LuketheXjesse
09-21-2009, 05:30 PM
Man, the only Anime where voice acting RUINED it for me was One Piece.
I loved the Manga and got all hyped up for it and BAM! Smacked me in the face like a cold wet fish. :(
relyanCe
09-21-2009, 05:53 PM
Gurren Lagann's soundtrack is pretty awesome, and i'm not talking about ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH either even tho it is pretty awesome too
Schwaltzvald
09-21-2009, 06:39 PM
Gurren Lagann's soundtrack is pretty awesome, and i'm not gonna talk about the porn either even tho it is pretty awesome too
Fixed that for you :lol:
relyanCe
09-21-2009, 07:17 PM
wut? characha
Kinslayer
09-21-2009, 08:04 PM
@ Epitaph, Examples of why DeathNote has an amazing soundtrack.
L's Theme A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uUVX376U4M
L's Theme B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlGUYT_zk5o&feature=related
Near's Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaAl-KhpGZ8&feature=related
Low of Solipsism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYhLlz5bK6c&feature=related
Schwaltzvald
09-21-2009, 08:21 PM
wut? characha
Needlessly long story don't worry.
Native Jovian
09-22-2009, 02:41 AM
Anything by Yoko Kanno.
Beaten to it.
FLCL had an awesome soundtrack (though it's certainly j-rock, which doesn't seem to be what you're interested in). Ditto Trigun.
Brushfire
09-22-2009, 03:33 AM
Anime music sucks.
Except for Shiro Sagisu.
EAT IT FATTY'S!!!
LuketheXjesse
09-22-2009, 05:56 AM
L's Theme A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uUVX376U4M
Hrm...was this used somewhere besides death note? I swear I've heard it elsewhere.
The song was okay, it just never really built up to anything. It's good for what it is: a character theme.
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