Today I am going to buy a new console.

[Atomic Dog]

Which is better, the X360 or the PS3?

If you haven't really ever played either, and you can afford both, which would you get? I really don't know much about either of them. I know that the Xbox is cheaper both in terms of the console itself and in the games, but that is really not an issue for me.

I have no interest whatsoever in live gaming so please do not factor that into your value judgments.

One person has told me that cross-platform games tend to be worse on the PS3. Can anybody verify that?

Does the X360 controller suck just as much as the original Xbox controller? Because I fucking hated that and if the controller is pretty much the same, then tell me now because I won't bother with it.

Put yourself in my shoes. I've got a wad of cash to blow, and I am totally ignorant about both systems. I've never even really played them much. Which way would you go?

[Nekofrog]

The 360 is almost always the primary development platform for multiplatform games, therefor they usually look and run better.

Media-wise they're on the same level minus the bluray drive, both are very good media machines capable of streaming video over the network directly to your TV.

[zircon]

Well, if you don't want to do anything online with multiplayer, most XBLA games become a lot less fun. That normally is a nice selling point of the 360. It has GREAT online play. All of the whining about stupid 12-year olds playing Halo is pretty dumb because you can simply disable voice chat anytime you want. I've never had a problem with that kind of thing. Online play is really necessary for fighting games like HD Remix, Street Fighter IV, BlazBlue or Marvel vs. Capcom, so hopefully you'll reconsider.

The 360 controller is really nice - a lot more elegant than the traditional Xbox controller. I also agree with Neko that cross-platform games seem to do better on the 360, but this difference is USUALLY negligible.

One thing to consider would be game library. With the PS3, you get Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet and inFamous, which are all great games. On the other hand, the 360 gets Gears of War, Halo, Fable, Dead Rising, etc. This is really up to personal preference, so check Wikipedia for the console exclusives to make sure you're not missing out on a game you really wanted.

[Equinox]

if you don't want to waste money get a 360 or you're retarded

[Schwaltzvald]

The only one title that's actually horrible (cross-platformwise) with reports supporting the claim had been for the recent Ghostbusters game. textures/visuals being wonky on the PS3 where as on the 360 it ran with no such issues; other then that I'd say most if not all multi-platform games run well on both systems.

Not sure what is your gaming preferences (rpg/strategy/fps) but I've noticed more niche titles (Valkyrie Chronicles/Disgaea/Fat Princess 3 etc) on the PS3 where as the 360 tend to have a larger library of downloadable "LIVE" games (Castle Crashers in particularly looks like a lot of fun imo, especially with friends).

Personally can't stand the 360 controller if only because of my greater preference to having a comfortable (read functional) directional pad for SF4/BlazBlue/SFIIHDRemix among other titles that uses it too. PC pretty much covers most of what the 360 can play if a title is not available on the PS3 as well. Always liked the PS2 controller and the PS3 feems pretty much the same, even with the buttons feeling very slightly "squishy" but responsive.

Would help to know what kind of games you like to play. It seems like you prefer single player titles but what kind exactly.

Personally I can't think of an RPG on the 360 that would stay on my mind...

[PassivePretentiousness]

Why get either of those if you don't have a wonderswan?

[Atomic Dog]

I'm pretty dedicated to action/adventure games and rpgs. First person shooters are pretty fun too. I don't care much for sports games, I get bored of fighters (Street Fighter, Soul Caliber, etc) quickly. But give me a game like Hitman or Max Payne or Splinter Cell or Prince of Persia and I'll play it for hours on end, repeatedly.

I'm really itching to pick up the new Fallout - lucky me, it's on both systems. I've also been looking at that new Metal Gear. That's only PS3 though, I think.

[Neo Samus]

My opinion is very close to Zicron and Neko's. But it all depends on your preference on games. I say do some research (pros and cons) of both systems and see which one come out on top for you.

I've been looking into a 360 or PS3 lately ever since I got a new TV (42' LG 1080p LCD) and I have been making a list of pros and cons (like I said above) to see what would suit me the best. But I'm not planning on getting one for at least a few months.

[Nekofrog]

I'm pretty dedicated to action/adventure games and rpgs. First person shooters are pretty fun too. I don't care much for sports games, I get bored of fighters (Street Fighter, Soul Caliber, etc) quickly. But give me a game like Hitman or Max Payne or Splinter Cell or Prince of Persia and I'll play it for hours on end, repeatedly.

I'm really itching to pick up the new Fallout - lucky me, it's on both systems. I've also been looking at that new Metal Gear. That's only PS3 though, I think.

If you like RPGs, then the PS3 is not for you.

[Ferret]

Why get either of those if you don't have a wonderswan?

The X360 controller is already wireless--It uses 2 AA batteries for power. The button layout is similar to the original Xbox controller, with the addition of the left and right bumpers.

Overall the X360 controller actually feels better than the older Xbox controller, though having an identical shape hurts it somewhat.

[Schwaltzvald]

If you like RPGs, then the PS3 is not for you.

Name one RPG on the 360 that's actually memorable/worth completing please that isn't already available on the PS3; I wont even bring up the Eternal Sonata issue. :lol:

As for Fallout 3, you're better off getting it for the PC (imo) but I think the PS3 version got shafted on the expansions the game got for the PC/360 versions...

[Atomic Dog]

I was told that they're coming bundled with a special version or some shit to be released in October.

[Wideruled]

i do have both consoles (actually every major recent platform outside of the DSI and PSPGO)

I enjoyed my 360 and enjoy my PS3. the PS3 gets more use due to the fact that it has a a blu ray player, and its a wee bit better on the media streaming support (though i havent tried on the 360 in a while).

I would recommend compiling a list of the exclusives that you want and see which platform has more of the ones you want to play. Get that one.

or you could always do what i did, get one and in about 5 or 6 months get the other. That way you can have the best of both worlds :D

[Nekofrog]

Name one RPG on the 360 that's actually memorable/worth completing please that isn't already available on the PS3; I wont even bring up the Eternal Sonata issue. :lol:

As for Fallout 3, you're better off getting it for the PC (imo) but I think the PS3 version got shafted on the expansions the game got for the PC/360 versions...

Mass Effect
Lost Odyssey

[Wideruled]

Mass Effect
Lost Odyssey

blue dragon?

[Nekofrog]

I can add some more onto the list that might eventually come to the PS3, but for NOW are only available on the 360.

Fanboys can't admit it, the PS3 has almost nothing in terms of RPGs that are unavailable anywhere else. It has one RPG I think that is exclusive (valkyrie profile), and even THAT game didn't sell well enough to warrant a PS3 sequel, the PSP is getting it instead.

[Equinox]

Mass Effect
Lost Odyssey

both of these games are epic win and lost odyssey deserves a lot more credit than what it gets these days

[Cecilff2]

I'd add Tales of Vesperia to that list too, but it looks like that one will be coming to the PS3 eventually.

[OverCoat]

Xbox 360 will RROD within a year
PS3 has nogames

[Equinox]

Xbox 360 will RROD within a year
PS3 has nogames

i've had my console well over two years, no rrod

[BardicKnowledge]

I'd get the 360 just because the support for expansion packs etc tends to come sooner for 360 than it does for PS3.

With the exception of MGS4 (which admittedly, is ridiculously good) the genres of games you mention are mostly multiplatform. Might as well get the system that gets bonuses first.

^Assuming you don't need the blu-ray player of course.

[DarkeSword]

I'd add Tales of Vesperia to that list too, but it looks like that one will be coming to the PS3 eventually.
With a crapload of new content added as well.

I've got both, and they're both good systems. I just comes down to what games you want to play.

From the games you've mentioned, I'd say just get a PS3 because you want to play Metal Gear. All the other games you talked about (PoP, Splinter Cell, etc.) are cross-platform anyway. Want RPGs? XBOX would be better, but Valkyria Chronicles should tide you over until stuff like FFXIII and FFvsXIII drop.

[K.B.]

How the hell are you on a video game (and music) site without any knowledge of current games?

I don't waste money on new systems ($750 over the past couple years has bought me a ps2 and a cube plus about 60 games for those two, psx, snes, and nes - including a half-dozen high-ticket items like Xenogears), but... if I were going to waste money it'd be on the PS3. I could live with a system with fewer games, but I could not justify my decision to spend a substantial amount of money on a piece-of-shit product. Which the 360 still is, or at least was not even a year ago when I did my research, with failure rates of their 'improved heat sink version' at nearly 10%. Yeah, fuck that. Verdict is still out on the library too, since Japan still loves their PS3 so they'll keep making games for it.

You're welcome.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

From what you're saying in terms of games you enjoy AD, I'd say that your best bet is with the 360. I'd say the biggest pros for the PS3 right now would be the Bluray player(if you like to watch a lot of HD movies and own physical copies), as well as the fact that if you ever feel the inkling to try out online play, PSN is free.

However, the first point is almost irrelevant due to the fact Xbox Live Silver is free and you can rent HD movies on Xbox Live(right now at 720p soon at 1080p) and download 'em relatively fast with a decent net connection. This assuming you're into digital content however. Of course you could ALSO do this on PSN, and I actually prefer the PSN Store myself from using it on my PSP. I'd rather pay with real money than points.

If you're looking for Western RPGs, you can't go wrong with either console, although like it was mentioned before, PS3 usually gets the shaft on DLC. If you want some Japanese made stuff, then you're probably better off getting a DS or a PSP at this point.

Your choice pretty much depends on 3 things: Games you want, media you want, and price you want to pay.

[Bahamut]

I'm gonna guess money isn't so much an issue with AD.

Although I own a PS3, I'm probably not really qualified to talk about it much because I've only owned a few PS3 games - I use mine to play mostly PS2 games, with the only other game getting significant play being Super Stardust HD from the PS Store.

I will say though that I've gotten great amounts of gaming on the 360. Others mentioned Lost Odyssey & Tales of Vesperia for JRPGs, with Mass Effect (I haven't played my copy yet). Star Ocean 4 is on the 360 if you care about that series too. There's also a much better selection of games on XBLA than the PS Store.

The blu-ray player is something great to have though, and probably would appeal to you. Heck, the PS3 is worth a purchase just as a cheap blu-ray player.

[Ferret]

If money's not an issue for you you definitely should look at the library the two consoles offer and your gaming preferences e.g. do you like puzzle games, RPGs, are you a racing title fan, do you like homebrew stuff or DLC? It's important to think about more than just branding and stuff, because to be honest in the long run the games are going to cost you a lot more than the console itself.

[Atomic Dog]

I went with the PS3 - mostly because they threw me a great deal.

80gb system, extra controller, hdmi cable, 3 games (I got to pick two) and 1 blu-ray movie.

I got Fallout and GTA4, along with some game called Little Big Planet.

[Neblix]

I went with the PS3 - mostly because they threw me a great deal.

80gb system, extra controller, hdmi cable, 3 games (I got to pick two) and 1 blu-ray movie.

I got Fallout and GTA4, along with some game called Little Big Planet.


xD Little Big Planet's actually pretty fun once you play it a little while. It's a great game for multiplayer, too.

[Kenobio]

How the hell are you on a video game (and music) site without any knowledge of current games?



Maybe, just maybe, he likes some of the music on this site and likes (and liked) playing games but hasn't had the chance to keep up to date with them.

You're welcome.

[K.B.]

some game called Little Big Planet.
No idea if you'd like it, but from what I've seen I'd seriously lean towards PS3 on that game alone (my previous argument aside).

Maybe, just maybe, he likes some of the music on this site and likes (and liked) playing games but hasn't had the chance to keep up to date with them.

You're welcome.
You're not from offtop. But I'll be nice: since you couldn't tell, that jab was in jest.

[Blue Magic]

I went with the PS3 - mostly because they threw me a great deal.

80gb system, extra controller, hdmi cable, 3 games (I got to pick two) and 1 blu-ray movie.

I got Fallout and GTA4, along with some game called Little Big Planet.

You might enjoy Killzone 2, MGS4 (is a must) for shooter games. The only Action/adventure game I played was Rachet and Clank Future and that was really, really good if you like cartoony games. The Sega collection looks pretty cool too, but I didn't get that one yet.

I got bored with GTA4 for some reason. I loved the past three games, but GTA4 just didn't appeal to me for some reason. And don't bother playing it online cause its stupid and frustrating.

Let me know how that Little Big Planet turns out. I know you'll be honest about it.

[Kenobio]

You're not from offtop. But I'll be nice: since you couldn't tell, that jab was in jest.

My bad. Used to frequent it regularly but don't go there much at all since things took a change.

[Flare4War]

The PS3 is a powerhouse but the 360 is more fun. I have both and I am constantly on the 360. There is simply more fun titles. Also, the 360 is backwards compatible with the original XBox games and the original XBox games are very cheap. The Play Station 3 on the other hand isn't backwards compatible with PS2 games (who the fuck knows why).

If you have an elite TV and sound system, don't discount the PS3's ability to play BlueRay discs because the BlueRay player it comes with is actually really nice and operates quite smooth. If you just want to game like no other than get the XBox though.

To give a definitive answer, if you want to go with the safer bet buy the XBox. I have more fun on it than PS3 by far. When you do buy it purchase a copy of Ninja Gaiden II....and a 12 pack of beer.

Edit: And no AD, the 360 controller doesn't suck it's built much better than the original one.

[Ronyn]

I base my opinion off being a former PS3 owner; I only played my friend's 360 and never owned one. Probably gonna piss a few people off but here goes:

Get a PS3. The whole "xbox 360 pwnz!" is really kind of a fad based on hype IMO. Many of my friends have had to put up with the whole Red Ring of Death, and don't have good stories to tell about dealing with Microsoft about it. If you do decide to go 360, only good reason I could think of would be for games that aren't on PS3.

Best reason to get a PS3: HD DVD is dead, and Blu-ray is here to stay. The mere possibilities with Blu-ray mean we haven't seen Sony's best days with this system yet. You can play HD movies, which are getting cheaper now because Blu-ray plants are springing up production after winning the war. HD DVD movies may not get as cheap to manufacture, or games.

Blu-ray also just supports more data because it's newer, better technology. And they also designed the specs for it intelligently, something DVD never accomplished. The programming for the games is written in a specific track so it can be optimally retrieved with minimal loading, making game loading faster.

Downside is newer systems aren't backwards compatible with PS2 discs, but they will still play PS1 games ok. They did this to make them cheaper. PS Store actually has a lot of classics available you can download for a low price though. The store is also very good to put out demos for many games, so you can try before you buy. Controllers are pretty much the same, never had wireless problems with them. Downside is when you gotta charge them the USB cord is like 6 ft., which is genuinely obnoxious to sit that close to your system (might get 2 so you can always have one charging).

[Bleck]

if you have a ps3 then I hope you got a lot of ps2 games to play

once you're done with littlebigplanet and metal gear solid 4 there's pretty much no other exclusives worth noting

[duckyboycantfly]

also want to know what the best consul is noob?

PC

[Flare4War]

also want to know what the best consul is noob?

PC

Wowz, ducky. Yer' rilly smahrt.

[TheLeviathan]

if you have a ps3 then I hope you got a lot of ps2 games to play

once you're done with littlebigplanet and metal gear solid 4 there's pretty much no other exclusives worth noting


Valkyria Chronicles is worth noting for sure.

[Bleck]

Valkyria Chronicles is worth noting for sure.

yeah maybe if you're a japedophile

[Kenobio]

I haven't played it myself, but I've heard the PS3-exclusive Infamous is really good.

[Flare4War]

I haven't played it myself, but I've heard the PS3-exclusive Infamous is really good.

The game play is well done but the storyline is mediocre at best.

Honestly I didn't really care for it. After I rented it my brother played through it and won it in my bedroom. He really like it but I thought it was really dull and linear the whole way through myself.

[duckyboycantfly]

The following is my honest opinion. I do not own, or plan to own, either the XBOX 360 or PS3 entertainment systems. This opinion is mostly based off of friends system's.

I think the 360 is best for games right now, this very moment. It's got an impressive backlog, especially if you've never owned an xbox before, and has great dlc, along with NATAL (lul) and good looking prospects for the future. Plus the controller is actually a lot better, once you get used to it (I use it for my PC, so I guess I can't really say that honestly, since I don't play many 360 games with it)

That being said, the PS3 will probably win the war in games of the future. By this I mean, right now there are games coming out for it that look promising, and there are games out now that are great, by no means am I detracting from them, just saying the 360 has more "great" games now. But I see the PS3 being similar to the PS2, in that 5-10 years after owning it, you will still find yourself playing it. And there will still be great games being released for it. Maybe. On the plus side, it's a great blu-ray player, so there's that.

So yeah. Play great games now, or maybe hold off on the chance of there being great games in the future.

Also I guess I should note live/whatever the fuck the 360 uses >>>> psn

I guess I should also also note I did not read a single other post in this thread, including anything past PS3 or XBOX360 in your post. So yeah.

[prophetik]

i own both. i work at a game store. here's what i see and what i hear.

i prefer my 360. there's a lot of new features coming to it, arcade is the best online service around (and you can get a year for 35 dollars if you keep your eyes open), and if you get a new jasper unit (look for 12.1=12v on the back of the box) then you've got an almost silent unit that will never overheat. ps3 games are more expensive, tend to have about the same level of graphics, and there's significantly fewer of them available. XBLA (live arcade) is the online distribution center for 360, and they've got some phenomenal games as well.

i can go much more in depth if you'd like, but i have limited time currently.

[Drack]

Guys, read the thread. He already bought a PS3. He doesn't give a shit about 360 anymore.

Here are some good PS3 games worth checking out. (He's already got Fallout3, GTA4, and LBP for you tards who didn't read the thread)

Shooters:
Metal Gear Solid 4
Call of Duty 4
Bioshock
Killzone 2
The Orange Box (It's better on PC though!)
Dead Space
Unreal Tournament 3

Fighters:
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger
Street Fighter 4
King of Fighters 12
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix

Everything Else:
Valkyria Chronicles
WipEout HD
Ratchet & Clank Future
Uncharted
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Devil May Cry 4
Rock Band 1 & 2

[BardicKnowledge]

^Add NG Sigma 2 to that nice list above, as it finally has Ayane playable.

[Flare4War]

(He's already got Fallout3, GTA4, and LBP for you tards who didn't read the thread)

Doesn't mean the discussion can't continue just because he made a decision.

Tard...

[Bahamut]

I'm gonna say it again - Super Stardust HD off of the PSN is like crack.

[Flare4War]

Don't forget Fat Princess. I can totally see AD playing that one.

While sucking on a tootsie pop.

[duckyboycantfly]

Guys, read the thread.
Hey man, you gotta hold steady to this threads new spot. We can't give honest feedback anymore. We have to point out our opinion and don't care bout nuffin what sayng anymore.

Stupid.

[XZero]

I don't own either system (proud adult Wii-owner here), and don't really game as much as I used to. Nonetheless, I can offer my opinion based on my experience in the retail end of the gaming industry.

The 360 tends to have the better variety of games overall. There are, of course, exclusives on both, but the 360 tends to have a few more. I will also echo that multi-platform games tend to be developed for the 360 first, so it has that advantage.

That said, the 360 is not without its problems. Without an interest in multiplayer, especially online multiplayer, its uses are somewhat limited. The same can be said of any of the other consoles out there, but this is especially true in the case of the 360, which sports the biggest focus on Live. Another problem, though this one has lessened somewhat recently, is that the 360 has a bad track record and a history of not working. More than any other system, 360s seem to break the most often. Some are older, yes, but I don't personally understand why my 1987 NES still works quite well but a 2008 XBox 360 breaks down.

Another problem with the 360, though this one plagues the PS3 as well, is the lack of RPGs. There are some, but it really depends on what you like. As a JRPG gamer, I love the Tales series, which is currently only on the 360, but coming to the PS3 in the near future. RPGs are currently thriving on the DS and, to a lesser extent, the Wii. Shooters and sports games abound on the 360.

Despite its problems, I would probably still recommend a 360 over a PS3. It has more exclusives, and the games don't need to be installed on a limited hard drive (though I know this isn't really much of an issue). Think about what types of games you like to play, and go with whatever you feel is best.

[Atomic Dog]

Honestly I didn't really care for it. After I rented it my brother played through it and won it in my bedroom. He really like it but I thought it was really dull and linear the whole way through myself.

That's what the chick at Best Buy said. It's why I went with Fallout instead.

And I almost didn't. I literally had Infamous IN MY HANDS, and she talked me into putting it back on the shelf.

Maybe, just maybe, he likes some of the music on this site and likes (and liked) playing games but hasn't had the chance to keep up to date with them.


Actually, I can't remember the last time I downloaded a remix. I just listen to all the old ones I still have from when I first got interested here. Mostly Megaman and Sonic remixes.

But yea, I'm pushing 30. Religiously following games and new consoles ended for me years ago. Now I just see which testimonials impress me more and throw around money like it's nothing.



On a side note, Blu-Ray is fucking awesome. I mean, I didn't think I would be as impressed with it as I was, but damn.

[Flare4War]

On a side note, Blu-Ray is fucking awesome. I mean, I didn't think I would be as impressed with it as I was, but damn.

What shocked me was how well the BluRay player functions on the PS3. When I heard it was going to be BluRay I thought it was going to be a gimped player to shave costs. Instead they put a kick ass one in it.