OCR01282 - Killer Instinct 'The Wolf of the Opera'

[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[RoeTaKa]

This doesn't sound like it was played and recorded. Tempo is constant throughout which makes me think sequenced. All in all a decent arrangement though. Not a fave of mine though.

[PhoebusApollo]

FINALLY!!! A good Killer Instinct remix...mad props to you.

[RimFrost the Tourianist]

I actually still have the Killer Cuts soundtrack CD somewhere around, and remember this song quite well from KI..while this piano clanking attempts to revitalise the tune ,it sadly doesn't translate too well to my demanding ears :cry:

(i do like some solo piano remixes posted on ocr though, so its not a thing as simple as hating pianos..)

[Archaon]

If this sounded like actual piano playing I wouldn't mind it so much, but as it is...it seems rather robotic and bland. Didn't like this one.

[The Womb]

I agree more emotion would be nice but I gotta give credit its well done and I like it kinda

[phantomINTELLECT]

This is really good. How many takes did it take you to get this down? There is a serious lack of classically trained musicians these days and it's nice to hear someone who actually knows what they are doing

[omega_squid]

Maybe they should just change the name of this site to "Piano Arrangement Remix". For what it's worth though, at least this is a good song from a game I like. I like the interpretive aspect of the piece, and I think the composer did a good job with the flourishes and improvising at the beginning, and emulating the low string section of the original song at the halfway point, where the song really kicks in.

As a point of contention, I actually don't think it's dark or loud enough. Fortissimo man, fortissimo! Loud is good and especially in the low end we lose a bit of the original's 'oomph'. You might say it sounds a bit too sequenced, but overall it's a really elegant interpretation of the original, it just takes it in a completely different direction. Probably not going on my playlist, but still worth a listen.

[big giant circles]

i like it. i agree with prot when he says this would be more impressive live. it really would be an incredible thing to be recorded so.

otherwise, great arrangement, and this is an enjoyable piano tune. nice job!

[ella guro]

I agree with a lot of the comments here that while the arrangement itself is well done and definitely passable, there is a lack of dynamic contrast throughout the whole piece (and it doesn't help that the piano sample itself isn't very strong either). If this were played live, it would obviously address those two major problems.

Yes, the arrangement is good; but it's a shame that it wasn't made more listenable.

[LazarCotoron]

I'm willing to grant all of you that in regards to the original piece, this mix is a bit off, but I've never seen that as a reason to knock an arrangement. And I readily admit that I am NOT a musician and can rarely tell the difference between live and well done sequenced recordings (save through reverb)...

However, as a piece, I think this is maybe not interesting, but enjoyable to listen to. It was mentioned earlier this is robotic, but then, so are most Bach pieces. The only reason they have any emotion to them at all is because the person playing it got sick of playing it the way it was specifically written.

I notice a lot with people involved in artistic industries, be they music, advertising, or more preferred method of illustration, people who get heavily involved in the methods and feelings of things tend to forget the wider audience of people who simply enjoy the act of, in this case, listening. Despite a piece like the Trial in Concert being a fantastic remix with a real human element and clear passion injected into the piece, its mere existence doesn't make this bad.

Bad is taking speaker fuzz and feedback and calling it music. This shows some creative direction, clear thinking as the original piece sounds quite different, and some good decisions in how to set it up.

Like I said, I like this one.

[Uboichi2]

I agree with a lot of the comments here that while the arrangement itself is well done and definitely passable, there is a lack of dynamic contrast throughout the whole piece (and it doesn't help that the piano sample itself isn't very strong either). If this were played live, it would obviously address those two major problems.

Yes, the arrangement is good; but it's a shame that it wasn't made more listenable.

Lack of dynamic contrast is maybe do to the fact that the original hasn't got lot of dynamic contrast neither. I tried to stay close to the original, but with a touch of my own fantasy.

And about the Piano sample... It is in fact my very own piano you hear playing. Okay, it's a digital Roland, but the key's are sampled note by note. On top of that, I've played on a lot of different Grands, and this one sounds most like a Steinway, which is naturally, because the the samples are of a Steinway's.

And @ the fortissimo guy: I'm sorry, but my piano wouldn't go any louder without clipping the audio, and if I recorded too soft, there was a lot of noise when I raised the amplitude.

[ella guro]

Lack of dynamic contrast is maybe do to the fact that the original hasn't got lot of dynamic contrast neither. I tried to stay close to the original, but with a touch of my own fantasy.

Yes, but it's not like most SNES game music composers where that concerned with dynamic contrast. The original is clearly not meant to sound like a classical arrangement for piano like this is, and it was obviously limited to the SNES sound capabilities. I think this mix would bear equally as much resemblance to the original and be a more realistic application into the genre of the arrangement with more contrast.

And about the Piano sample... It is in fact my very own piano you hear playing. Okay, it's a digital Roland, but the key's are sampled note by note. On top of that, I've played on a lot of different Grands, and this one sounds most like a Steinway, which is naturally, because the the samples are of a Steinway's.

After listening to this a bit more, I'm willing to admit that the problem is probably not in the sample but the constant repetition of some chords in a loud, choppy staccato delivery. I don't claim to know everything about piano arrangements, but the lack of subtlety in the delivery seems to be what is flattening out the sound of the piano.

[Txai]

Oh, yes! The Saberwolf Theme!

I do not hesitate.The arrangement of this piano is genuine. How to explain that its sound touches the soul?

Cheap imitations not touch in the soul.

[Ramenking]

This is very easy one of the best oc remixes ever. That is the end of it. Good God you have blessed us with this remix and me and God don't even get along like that.

[Sal]

I will start off by saying this is a fantastic mix of one of my all time favourite pieces of VG music. So welldone there.

But like others have mentioned it sounds too sequenced, it lacks feeling and emotion which is a shame because the way you have arranged this piece, it has enormous potential for that. I'd have to disagree with you when you said that the original didn't have much dynamic contrast because well, it did. In spades.

Can't fault the arrangement, just needs more oomph.

[Corporal Eschebone]

I have the CD that this song [Tooth & Claw] is from... Except I don't know where it is and haven't listened to it in years. Even still, the melody is very familiar...

But anyway, I like it, even if it isn't very complex or anything. Nice background music.

[Art_lover]

I thought it was a nice piano remix to Saberwolf's theme even if it wasn't to almost everyone's standards of a good remix (yes I've read the reviews). Quite enjoyable to listen to and I added it to my playlist.

[linkwolf]

:? cool remix but i think it's done better by darangen. go to his site the link is on this site and look for vgremix link and look for the song deck the claws.this verson is closer to the killer cuts verson. just with heavy guitar and snyth guitar riff's over the piano. very cool check this one out guy's :)

[DJ Pili]

I like the original song, and this ReMix pays good homage to it. However, this song would sound better if played with a real pipe organ and some cellos.

[SiC-DCoN]

Killer Instinct definitely has some cool fukin music man. Whoever is out there PLZ make more remixes of KI music or even from Gold but man something has to be released. The game kicks ass.

[meccaneer]

I miss that dog. I still have the Killer Cuts CD.

I really dig the piano work here; impressive playing. And I think there is enough contrast. At first listen, I liked the original more since there is so much more going on. After a few listens, I realized that this piano solo is very good in it's own accord. I would love to hear it in concert.

[okami_chi]

This game is a classic, and the way you brought out one of my favorite character themes of all time was spectacular. The piano layering was well done, and thank you for keeping in beat... it drives me nuts to listen to a song that can't choose which beat to follow. This one earned my liking... which isn't easy...

[Darkmetamorphasis]

I really liked this song. I did really remind me of an opera (well that if KI made an opera) But I would've liked it better if there were at least some strings added, but nonetheless, its very good.

[Dionyseus]

Has potential, however this recording lacks emotion, sounds like a robot played it.

[Ranch Doritos]

I liked it because I love Sabertooth... buh where'z the life ? Where'z the dramatic enterances? Where'z the Strings!!
Please remake another!

[Raffael Zabbot]

Beautiful song, it made me feel so nostalgic...

Actually I like this stripped-down piano version. If the intention was to make it more operistic, it could have a more orchestral approach, but as it is, it's just fine.

[OA]

The arrangement is great, but it is pretty mechanical sounding. The different sections have great transitions, and there is some real power behind the chords. I really liked the arpeggios as well, and even though i'm unfamilir with the source, the mix is compelling enough to make me want to check it out.

I'd love to hear this performed live with 2 pianos. :-)

[Crulex]

Loving it. The piano only sounding verison of this theme is really good and simple. Don't really get why everyone is knocking it, as it has a beautiful melody and doesn't seem to trip over notes. Granted, I will note the almost robotic sound at times, but I like it. Nice!

[Daemos]

The player of the piano is very skilled, the melody is rather moody, and kinda reminds me of black/white cartoon music. Maybe it's just me.

the piano seems a little off on the high end, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's just how that piano plays.