Epic Mickey

[Schwaltzvald]

Okay so perhaps others who occasionally visits /v/ or other major game related sites may already have seen news of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Mickey) but...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/em3castle_dwn_view-thumb-620x372-24.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/em13beetleworx_6.jpg

What...? (http://www.fredgambino.co.uk/film_tv_thmbs.html)

This seems to go beyond what Kingdom Hearts have done that's for sure but...

I don't even...

First thought the concept art were parody work or just fan stuff much like the whole I, Mario thing was but this seems to be actually official.

More here (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/30/rumor-details-about-warren-spectors-epic-mickey-emerge/)

[Meteo Xavier]

God! First that damn ducktales thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KRQSpORW0) and now this.

Oh, Walt, get out of your cryogenic freezer and look whats happening to your company and legacy!

[Schwaltzvald]

God! First that damn ducktales thing

I actually loled at that because it always struck me as odd seeing him dive into a pool of gold coins as if it was nothing more than a pool of packaging peanuts that were spray painted yellow as I got older; never cared enough way way way back. :lol:

However this upcoming title, for the Wii of all systems... Seriously..? Not bashing for their choice of systems and yet I'm almost compelled to as I have no idea how Nintendo would let this fly if it's anything as I'm currently imagining it will turn out. I'm basically thinking along the lines of Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series mashed with American McGee's "Alice".

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/castle_side02.jpg

Especially this one...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/em12beetle-things.jpg

[sephfire]

Whatever it is, it's being made by Warren Spector. That is cause for excitement.

[Schwaltzvald]

Whatever it is, it's being made by Warren Spector. That is cause for excitement.

Didn't he also work on Deus Ex 2..?

[cobaltstarfire]

It looks pretty neat to me.

[Meteo Xavier]

I actually loled at that because it always struck me as odd seeing him dive into a pool of gold coins as if it was nothing more than a pool of packaging peanuts that were spray painted yellow as I got older; never cared enough way way way back. :lol:

Pool of WATER would've been acceptable too....



However this upcoming title, for the Wii of all systems... Seriously..? Not bashing for their choice of systems and yet I'm almost compelled to as I have no idea how Nintendo would let this fly

Because Nintendo is awesome. Case closed. I might actually have to rent this game when and if it comes out.

[Sporknight]

Kotaku's been keeping tabs on this:
http://kotaku.com/5326858/details-on-the-epic-mickey-game

I'm...excited? It certainly looks damn cool, at the least.

[Schwaltzvald]

Pool of WATER would've been acceptable too....




Because Nintendo is awesome. Case closed. I might actually have to rent this game when and if it comes out.


Pool of water would have been fine but doesn't emulate the whole "swimming in gold coins" thing too well; besides I'm not approaching realism any more than the original creators were when they made the series. :lol:

And I'm all for an awesome game to come out, I'm just curious as to how it will turn out. Remember how recently the "expansion" of Deadspace is essentially on rails..? That sure as hell squashed my interests in it for the time being.

As for Epic Mickey, I'd be all over it if it turns out to be awesome. :)!!

[Nekofrog]

Don't believe anything Kotaku says about the gameplay.

The "gameplay" they're describing was what one person on the neogaf forums said he thought it might be, and cvg (one of the most irresponsible websites in existence for videogame news) took that and ran it as news, hence, Kotaku's source.

CVG is, after all, a website that called the new countdown on Square's website a "Final Fantasy VII Countdown" only because somewhere on the countdown it had the roman numerals VII.

And how did that turn out? Yeah.... not 7 related.

[Final Hero]

One thing's for sure - no way in hell am I letting any of the little kids I know get ahold of a copy of this game. :? Could cause a great number of nightmares if the wrong kid sees it.

[Schwaltzvald]

Don't believe anything Kotaku says about the gameplay.

The "gameplay" they're describing was what one person on the neogaf forums said he thought it might be, and cvg (one of the most irresponsible websites in existence for videogame news) took that and ran it as news, hence, Kotaku's source.

Ah if that's the case then some one needs to update the Deadspace: Extraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space:_Extraction) wiki page as it still describes the gameplay as a first person rail-shooter...

Still though I can't wait to find out more about EM.

[halc]

very strange but quite appealing

but wii-exclusive? lame.

[Meteo Xavier]

People bitch about there not being enough Wii exclusive games, and then when there is, they bitch about it being exclusive! >:P

In my day, if we got a game at all for Christmas, we were lucky. Those were the days of Paperboy TWO! And ROBOTREK! We actually played the games that were available to us, and not worry about what was coming out for Sega Genesis...

Don't worry your pretty little head. We don't even know if the game is going to be that awesome.

[The Damned]

Ah if that's the case then some one needs to update the Deadspace: Extraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space:_Extraction) wiki page as it still describes the gameplay as a first person rail-shooter...

Still though I can't wait to find out more about EM.

I think he was referring to Epic Mickey, not Dead Space.

Just a possibility. I haven't really followed either game.

I first thought this was another "I, Mario" like project: fan-made, just for fun, kind of an experiment in design...

[Meteo Xavier]

What is I, Mario?

[Matt E. Waldman]

Wow, I didn't know this was official! I've always wanted to see Mickey go down a direction like this.

I can't wait to hear more on this one! I also find it neat and odd that Warren Spector is helming this project. At least this game won't fail in the design department!

[Schwaltzvald]

What is I, Mario?

I, Mario (http://specter24.proboards.com/index.cgi), remnants of this projects is barely alive but for the most part, it's pretty dead.

@Damned:

That's odd because the Epic Mickey page mentions nothing of gameplay.

Also...

No information about the game's release on other consoles has been given.

We may see a multi-console release...

[Thalzon]

From the looks of the art, it might be... some post-apocalyptic steampunk setting, maybe? The fact that Mickey, Goofy, and... Dumbo, I guess, all look like reconstructed automatons kind of tells me the theme park was remade into a series of ships (and the castle was left by itself on the plateau).

Maybe the frozen brain of Walt Disney destroyed the world and is leading his theme park army on a mission to cleanse the earth of humanity. Exciting.

[JH Sounds]

No information about the game's release on other consoles has been given.

Heh, I love when Wikipedia contains ambiguous statements like that.

[Arek the Absolute]

ILLiterate and I were talking about this a few days ago.

This seems like it has potential to be really bad ass.

Japan better not touch this.

[sephfire]

Take all of this with a huge grain of salt, but it's the most information about this thing I've been able to find in one place. Rumors are about all we've got at this point.

When it was announced that Warren Spector, the creator of beloved cyberpunk shooter Deus Ex and one of the main talents at Ion Storm, had started working at Disney-owned Junction Point studio after Ion Storm broke apart there was lots of skepticism. In the past few days rumors and leaked concept art of his new project, going by the code name "Epic Mickey" has surfaced, and it's awesome.

So far there's little more than rumors about the actual nature of the game. So far the rumors say that the game is about lesser-known and forgotten Disney characters trying to get their revenge of Mickey Mouse, and that it will be a Wii-exclusive platformer that uses an Okami-like drawing mechanic.

Even without much information on the game the concept and the general look they're establishing has me excited as hell. Using iconic childhood imagery to cobble together surreal, nightmarish contraptions (like the harvester subs having the faces of the 7 Dwarves on front and the teacups from the Alice in Wonderland ride on their backs, as well as the omnipresent four-fingered white gloves Mickey Mouse wears being on everything) not only looks amazing but shows a surprising amount of inventiveness from Disney, considering how protective they've always been of their characters.

So far all I've managed to find is a few blog posts on the subject, sadly. Joystiq seems to have the most concept art but gathering it is an ongoing effort; everything that's been found has been scoured from resumes and portfolios of concept artists, and more seems to be popping up everyday. So I guess until more concrete information comes out this can be a thread to collect information as it appears.

[Schwaltzvald]

Essentially, it will in some respects follow "Okami" in regards to Mickey (& Co?) restoring Disney Land to its former glory after these forgotten/less-known characters Bel-Aired it to oblivion and beyond; Much like how Amaterasu had to restore the former beauty of Japan along with clearing out the demons in "Okami"..?

They better use that adapter for the wiimotes to its full potential if that's the case.

[sephfire]

Essentially, it will in some respects follow "Okami" in regards to Mickey (& Co?) restoring Disney Land to its former glory after these forgotten/less-known characters Bel-Aired it to oblivion and beyond; Much like how Amaterasu had to restore the former beauty of Japan along with clearing out the demons in "Okami"..?.

They could also have a lot of fun using this considering the hand-drawn nature of Disney classic animation. This could be amazing. It could also explain Wii-exclusivity (if that is, in fact, true).

[Schwaltzvald]

From one end of the spectrum starting with Steam Boat Willie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEaT_UQnVM), and possibly ending it at the other end with Runaway Brain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LBZU1M_xWc&feature=related)...

I'm kinda disappointed in myself in not seeing it sooner... :lol:

[SynthesizedStampede]

Been keeping my eye on this ever since I've heard about it. Looks real interesting and the concepts look really promising. I just hope it turns out being "epic" instead of a cancelled project :-(.

[Dr.Flintlock]

So when we talk supposed obscure characters getting revenge on Mickey, are we referring to villains or anyone?

Because personally, I could see some extremely nasty versions of Percival McCleach from The Rescuers Down Under and The Horned King from The Black Cauldron.

Seriously, the latter baddie is probably one of the most under-appreciated and scarier Disney characters ever conceived. Putting him in this would just be downright diabolical.

[Nekofrog]

No, more like Dingy Dog and the mad scientist who tried to merge Pluto with a chicken.

[SynthesizedStampede]

Oh gosh, I can see why some of these characters would want to get revenge on Mickey for their lack of popularity: I haven't even heard of some of the ones being mentioned. Maybe I'm just too much of a young 'un >_<.

[friendlyHunter]

Japan better not touch this.
Bad news: new concept art shows a spikey-haired protagonist with giant shoes fighting JRPG battles with a gigantic key.

Because personally, I could see some extremely nasty versions of Percival McCleach from The Rescuers Down Under and The Horned King from The Black Cauldron.
Holy hell McCleach had better be in this o_O That thing he drove was badass enough... I can see that guy piloting (or merged with) a giant hideous mech of some sort =D

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm waffling between what the shit and a joygasm right now. Just wow.

[K.B.]

Everything I've seen thus far leads me to believe this will be complete wretched kickassness. With the prefect balancing done against all things right and good, a la disney. If the powers that be pull this off without betraying the concept, this should be game worth every minute of playtime.

I'm to assume no one else entered with the expectation of finding a new debilitating drug?

[NNY]

I'm betting that the main antagonist will be Oswald The Lucky Rabbit, going by this picture.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2245/oswald1.jpg

Not only is Oswald obscure, he was completely overshadowed by Mickey Mouse. Check out his wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_the_Lucky_Rabbit

[Schwaltzvald]

I'm betting that the main antagonist will be Oswald The Lucky Rabbit, going by this picture.

Considering the following on the same page,

When the character’s future is determined, they are planning a big splash.

Oh boy this ought to be interesting, however I have doubts of Oswald being the antagonist. Oswald's more like a long lost brother to Mickey considering who created them, and the change of hands Oswald went through before ultimately returning to Disney. Had he stayed under Walt I can see the possibility that there would be, in this case, a one-sided rivalry as you'd never see that from Mickey; at least perhaps not explicitly.

But then I suppose if he is the one behind it all, I sincerely hope they take him farther than this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADrojCw6amM&feature=channel_page) :lol:

[big giant circles]

This is true. It's really not Mickey/Disney's fault that Oswalt got "tossed aside", considering Disney lost him in a crooked deal with Universal.

[NNY]

It might not have been Mickey who screwed him out of stardome, however, he's obscure and was completely overshadowed by Mickey Mouse. What else would he need to motivate him for revenge? Given Warren Specter's love for the Disney history, I can really see this happening. Who else could they do? Pete? Malificent? All that shit's been done (and beaten like a dead horse) in Kingdom Hearts.

[Bleck]

Who else could they do? Pete? Malificent?


http://www.olivier-ladeuix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/hrece_horecollar.jpg

[Dr.Flintlock]

I just thought of another one. They could put Frollo in their and make him some sort of maniacal scientist dabbling in the occult. Theories aside however, I don't see how they could pull him off sans the late Tony Jay.

Umm and while I know Chernabog was in Kingdom Hearts, his part was so miniscule, he almost NEEDS to be in this thing. Giant, steam-driven bio-mech version of Chernabog could actually be pretty unsettling.

...On another slightly different note, if the concept art shows Goofy all mechanized, I'm predicting all sorts of nasty for Mr. Donald...

[big giant circles]

It might not have been Mickey who screwed him out of stardome, however, he's obscure and was completely overshadowed by Mickey Mouse. What else would he need to motivate him for revenge? Given Warren Specter's love for the Disney history, I can really see this happening. Who else could they do? Pete? Malificent? All that shit's been done (and beaten like a dead horse) in Kingdom Hearts.

I suppose you make a solid point there.

[NNY]

http://www.olivier-ladeuix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/hrece_horecollar.jpg

I was going to use this guy's name when saying "beaten like a dead horse" but I don't know his name.

[Bleck]

I was going to use this guy's name when saying "beaten like a dead horse" but I don't know his name.

Horace Horsecollar

[DarkeSword]

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/05/spoiler-alert-epic-november-issue-revealed.aspx

Wow.

[Schwaltzvald]

I made a thread about it a good while ago but it's nice to see an update.

A November release however... :nicework:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/epicmickey_cover_single.jpg

[Inimitable]

Holy crap it's real! All this time I still figured it was a pipe dream.

So... who's making a wallpaper out of the full cover (http://gameinformer.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/00.00.00.00.06/7558.epicmickey_2D00_cover.jpg)? :razz:

[Matt E. Waldman]

Whoa, glad to see it's real! :D

I am SOOO stoked for this. This art style is fantastic.

[JoeFu]

some dude at neogaf made a huge wallpaper for it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17897129&postcount=1212

[Tables]

omg its real

fapfapfapfapfap

[Bleck]

oh my god OH MY GOD YES

[SynthesizedStampede]

Very nice. Looking forward to any info for this game...heck we don't even know what genre it will be yet.

[big giant circles]

Does anyone else see (spoiler)Oswald's head just inside the Gate?

[Bleck]

oh my god I never would have noticed that

[K.B.]

I still want the drink.

[Hale-Bopp]

I think I've been waiting for something like this ever since Castle of Illusion.

[The UnMod OutKast]

some dude at neogaf made a huge wallpaper for it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17897129&postcount=1212

Sexellent! Thankyou.

[The Derrit]

YES.

I am so excited for this my mind is jizzing right now

[Cottus&Gyes]

Looks like I can get my Mussorgsky on in this game :D

[big giant circles]

oh my god I never would have noticed that

I wouldn't have if not for the hi-res picture.

[metalsnakejuice]

Hell yeah, this looks so intriguing and artistic for a Disney game.

Can not wait to read more information about this.

[Vilecat]

I think I've been waiting for something like this ever since Castle of Illusion.
Same. Totally saving the wallpaper format too.

[Gollgagh]

for shame, Darke

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24750

[DarkeSword]

for shame, Darke

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24750
I am inferior!

[big giant circles]

Yeah man, what the heck? :-? :roll: lol

[NeoForte]

So....scans and screenshots and details finally revealed. I lov the retro Mickey modela nd seeing Oswald again~ The actual game screenshots took a while but I'm warming up to them. I hope we see more areas.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=89307

[K.B.]

Game needs less of this kiddiness, more of the concept-art scary. If the screenshots don't get darker as they give more promos (assuming they're done chronologically game-wise), I'm calling letdown.

[big giant circles]

I agree. Those screenshots just put a damper in my enthusiasm.

[Gollgagh]

I really want this to be good

Mickey has always been one of my favorite characters of anything so I don't want to see this thing fall flat on its face

[Thalzon]

Those screens actually make a lot of sense. Games rarely resemble their concept art completely, and no matter how "epic" this is, we have to remember that it's still Disney, and therefore a certain level of "not scaring the shit out of five-year-olds" is required... Or has been since like 1965 at least.

It still looks dark and vaguely ominous to me. Sure, there's no monstrosities comprised of several random disney characters anywhere (except that car thing with the Hades face -- weird), but it's still oozing style. The mix of colourful, decidedly happy Mickey with the bizarre architecture and ominous twisted realms is a good contrast.

[Inimitable]

From the article it sounds like Spector has a good handle on it. I've still got hope for this one even if it doesn't live up to the awesome concept art.

[Brushfire]

Me and OHSIR had a good conversation bout this.

<+Brushfire> Lets go ahead and break it down
<OCRE> please do!
<+Brushfire> Starting score of 100
<+Brushfire> The Game: Epic Mickey
<+Brushfire> +20 Points
<+Brushfire> 120
<OCRE> right
<+Brushfire> On the Wii
<+Brushfire> -40 Points
<+Brushfire> 80
<+Brushfire> Marred by terrible Wii Controls
<OCRE> possible shitty motion controls
<OCRE> yeah
<+Brushfire> -20
<+Brushfire> 60
<+Brushfire> Marred by limited graphical power
<+Brushfire> -20
<+Brushfire> 40
<+Brushfire> Cool Concept art
<+Brushfire> +10
<+Brushfire> 50
<+Brushfire> The fact that all the cool in the world can't make up for the fact that this game is on the Wii
<+Brushfire> -50
<OCRE> 0
<+Brushfire> So outta score of 100
<+Brushfire> Epic Mickey gets a 0
<+Brushfire> Strictly because it is on the Wii
<+Brushfire> This is why I hate the Wii

[Thalzon]

I believe you are going by some bizarro alien definition of the word "good" there, buddy.

[atmuh]

Me and OHSIR had a good conversation bout this.

<+Brushfire> Lets go ahead and break it down
<OCRE> please do!
<+Brushfire> Starting score of 100
<+Brushfire> The Game: Epic Mickey
<+Brushfire> +20 Points
<+Brushfire> 120
<OCRE> right
<+Brushfire> On the Wii
<+Brushfire> -40 Points
<+Brushfire> 80
<+Brushfire> Marred by terrible Wii Controls
<OCRE> possible shitty motion controls
<OCRE> yeah
<+Brushfire> -20
<+Brushfire> 60
<+Brushfire> Marred by limited graphical power
<+Brushfire> -20
<+Brushfire> 40
<+Brushfire> Cool Concept art
<+Brushfire> +10
<+Brushfire> 50
<+Brushfire> The fact that all the cool in the world can't make up for the fact that this game is on the Wii
<+Brushfire> -50
<OCRE> 0
<+Brushfire> So outta score of 100
<+Brushfire> Epic Mickey gets a 0
<+Brushfire> Strictly because it is on the Wii
<+Brushfire> This is why I hate the Wii
pretty much dead on

[Inimitable]

<+Brushfire> Lets go ahead and break it down
<OCRE> please do!
<+Brushfire> Starting score of 100
<+Brushfire> The Game: Epic Mickey
<+Brushfire> +20 Points
<+Brushfire> 120
<OCRE> right
<+Brushfire> On the Wii
<+Brushfire> 0 Points because the state of "being on the wii" makes the following deductions superfluous
<+Brushfire> 120
<+Brushfire> Possibly marred by terrible Wii Controls, but maybe not because there have been lots of games without horrible waggle?
<OCRE> possible shitty motion controls
<OCRE> yeah
<+Brushfire> 0
<+Brushfire> 120
<+Brushfire> Supported by limited graphical power but with the potential to be a beautiful game nonetheless depending on how the art comes across in motion? Let's go with this just to be safe
<+Brushfire> -30
<+Brushfire> 90
<+Brushfire> Cool Concept art
<+Brushfire> +10
<+Brushfire> 100
<+Brushfire> The fact that all the sense in the world can't make up for the fact that I love making assumptions about games under the direction of someone who has not produced a Wii game before
<+Brushfire> 0
<OCRE> 0
<+Brushfire> So outta score of 100
<+Brushfire> Epic Mickey gets a 100


Did I get that right?

[Gollgagh]

you guys are on a :roll:

[atmuh]

<+Brushfire> Lets go ahead and break it down
<OCRE> please do!
<+Brushfire> Starting score of 100
<+Brushfire> The Game: Epic Mickey
<+Brushfire> +20 Points
<+Brushfire> 120
<OCRE> right
<+Brushfire> On the Wii
<+Brushfire> 0 Points because the state of "being on the wii" makes the following deductions superfluous
<+Brushfire> 120
<+Brushfire> Possibly marred by terrible Wii Controls, but maybe not because there have been lots of games without horrible waggle?
<OCRE> possible shitty motion controls
<OCRE> yeah
<+Brushfire> 0
<+Brushfire> 120
<+Brushfire> Supported by limited graphical power but with the potential to be a beautiful game nonetheless depending on how the art comes across in motion? Let's go with this just to be safe
<+Brushfire> -30
<+Brushfire> 90
<+Brushfire> Cool Concept art
<+Brushfire> +10
<+Brushfire> 100
<+Brushfire> The fact that all the sense in the world can't make up for the fact that I love making assumptions about games under the direction of someone who has not produced a Wii game before
<+Brushfire> 0
<OCRE> 0
<+Brushfire> So outta score of 100
<+Brushfire> Epic Mickey gets a 100


Did I get that right?
i remember when i used to be a blind nintendo fanboy too

[Inimitable]

Pulling out the fanboy card so quickly? I really hate this argument, so I'll summarize a different way.

Look, the screenshots don't look very good when you compare them to the awesome concept art. OK. Got it. But this is the first time we've even seen the game, and we haven't seen much of it. Maybe it's like Wind Waker or Okami that only looks good once it's in motion (setting the bar too high, probably, but you get the idea)?

There have also been some great Wii games without waggle as well as some great motion-controlled games - to automatically assume wii game = bad control is silly. In fact, one of the core mechanics of the game is the painting effect; as that will clearly make or break the game I doubt someone like Spector would just let it fall into "break."

Or it could be a crapfest with waggle and Disney and n64 textures. Point is we really can't tell yet and it's still a year away. The article seems to indicate that Spector (who has a great track record, obviously) has a good idea of where this game needs to go to be great. At this point, that's enough for me. If we see gameplay a few months from now that looks catastrophic, I've got no problem abandoning all hope. But I've got no reason to yet...

[big giant circles]

well, regardless of all this, I can only hope that I get to hear a review of it on ZP :)

[Brushfire]

Pulling out the fanboy card so quickly? I really hate this argument, so I'll summarize a different way.

Look, the screenshots don't look very good when you compare them to the awesome concept art. OK. Got it. But this is the first time we've even seen the game, and we haven't seen much of it. Maybe it's like Wind Waker or Okami that only looks good once it's in motion (setting the bar too high, probably, but you get the idea)?

DON'T YOU EVER COMPARE THIS TO THOSE GAMES!! THOSE EARNED THE BRUSHFIRE SEAL OF APPROVAL. I was all for this game, till I heard it was on the Wii. Name all 7 Wii games worth owning. That's right, there are only 7 games worth owning drowning in a sea of shitty games.

There have also been some great Wii games without waggle as well as some great motion-controlled games - to automatically assume wii game = bad control is silly. In fact, one of the core mechanics of the game is the painting effect; as that will clearly make or break the game I doubt someone like Spector would just let it fall into "break."

Who are these Spector folks, I never heard of them until now. A quick wiki search yields that they are A FUCKING BASS COMPANY. I even tried alternative spelling. Turns out you meant Warren Spector, a guy who made Deus Ex, which wasn't bad, but it was a shooter. Hardly translates into a kids game, which is what the Wii plays by the way. On the Control problems, name one game that has benifited from Wii controls. I can think of one. Metroid Prime 3. And even then, the Sensor bar is wonky, the Wiimote is wonky, AND FUCK THE NUNCHAK, THAT THING IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT OUTSIDE OF A RED RINGED XBOX.

Or it could be a crapfest with waggle and Disney and n64 textures. Point is we really can't tell yet and it's still a year away. The article seems to indicate that Spector (who has a great track record, obviously) has a good idea of where this game needs to go to be great. At this point, that's enough for me. If we see gameplay a few months from now that looks catastrophic, I've got no problem abandoning all hope. But I've got no reason to yet...

And you totally finished your arguement for the game by saying it will suck. Not even blind Nintendo faith either. For Shame...

The problem with nearly all of the games on the Wii is the same problem with all of anime. Nintendo has no Quaility Assurance department, every single crappy thing that you can think of gets through. That is why this game (http://www.amazon.com/Biggest-Loser-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002BUSVJO/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1255681906&sr=1-12) exists.

[Schwaltzvald]

The problem with nearly all of the games on the Wii is the same problem with all of anime.

I thought you hated all of anime in general.

As for the Wii, being the most popular, shouldn't it be expected to have tons of shit on it? For all we trash on the PS3 for lack of content and the 360 for shoddy hardware, The Wii is the con-artist's dream come true in the gaming industry.

Despite this, The Wii does have some actual worthwhile gems on it, or at least have titles that are good and bound to entertain someone.

Animal Crossing
Baroque (You'll have to really get into this mindfuck to enjoy it)
Battalion Wars 2
Castle of Shikigami III (OH SHIT A Wii SHMUP title!)
Deadspace: Extraction - (typical rail shooter but does a good job of it, mostly for fans of DS only)
De Blob
Dokapon Kingdom: (trolls and those that enjoy shitting on your associates would love this - Atlus has dubbed the game "friendship destroying" in their marketing materials)
Final Fantasy: (almost anything from the franchise is good on the Wii depending on the gamer so long as said gamer lets go of preconceived prejudices)
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Ghostbusters: The Game (surprisingly decent on the Wii)
Guilty Gear XX ^ Core
Harvest Moon (I know some still play the series for as long as it's chugging along)
Mushroom Men
No More Heroes (It was awesome and with upcoming sequel, who's to say it won't be more awesome)
Okami - (prefer the PS2 version myself personally)
Resident Evil (looks like Capcom's gonna port the rest of the original series onto the Wii, Zero and the remake already ported over to the Wii)
Rune Factory Frontier - {Harvest Moon with swordplay)

For all the "Biggest Loser"s, "Rock Band"s, and "Barbie/Bratz" garbage, there are some actually decent, if not good games for the Wii.

Didn't even mention Mario or Zelda this round.

[Thalzon]

Don't forget Zack & Wiki, Little King's Story, House of the Dead: Overkill, Excitebots, and the Klonoa Remake.

I remember seeing some stick figure comic (probably from 4chan, admittedly) where Stick Guy A is complaining about all the games that are on or coming to the Wii that he wants to play. Stick Guy B asks the obvious: "Why don't you just fucking buy a Wii?" A retorts with "Because it has no games!"

Maybe if people played something besides Mario, Metroid, and Smash Bros on the Wii, or heck, even tried games that don't score above 90 on metacritic, we wouldn't even need to have this discussion.

[Schwaltzvald]

Maybe if people played something besides Mario, Metroid, and Smash Bros on the Wii, or heck, even tried games that don't score above 90 on metacritic, we wouldn't even need to have this discussion.

But then they'd have nothing to be bitter about or will worry about their rep as well as not earning trophies that amount to nothing! D:

[cobaltstarfire]

I'm not sure what is worse, blind love of something, or blind hatred of it.

Actually they both suck, and it's even more annoying when the two forces crash together in a thread about a game that hasn't even been released yet.

[Gollgagh]

hence my "you guys are on a :roll:" comment

[Schwaltzvald]

I don't know about the whole blind love for the Wii, but I find it rather ignorant to say there's nothing actually good for the Wii, let alone any console.

(except for the 360 only because PC trumps it but that's just my opinion lol)

Then again I do have the Wii and PS3 so I must have a whole lot of nothing :<

We should wait till it comes out to see if it's shit or not.

[Brushfire]

I thought you hated all of anime in general. Except ones that prove themselves worthy

As for the Wii, being the most popular, shouldn't it be expected to have tons of shit on it? For all we trash on the PS3 for lack of content and the 360 for shoddy hardware, The Wii is the con-artist's dream come true in the gaming industry.

Despite this, The Wii does have some actual worthwhile gems on it, or at least have titles that are good and bound to entertain someone.

Animal Crossing - Suffers from Sims-Itis
Baroque (You'll have to really get into this mindfuck to enjoy it) - More Like Snoreroque
Battalion Wars 2 - Yeah that wasn't bad
Castle of Shikigami III (OH SHIT A Wii SHMUP title!) - Horrid
Deadspace: Extraction - (typical rail shooter but does a good job of it, mostly for fans of DS only) - Better Elsewhere
De Blob - Not Bad, Wouldn't buy it or anythin.
Dokapon Kingdom: (trolls and those that enjoy shitting on your associates would love this - Atlus has dubbed the game "friendship destroying" in their marketing materials) - Nah
Final Fantasy: (almost anything from the franchise is good on the Wii depending on the gamer so long as said gamer lets go of preconceived prejudices) - Final Fantasy hasn't seen a GOOD release since 6.
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Suffers from JRPG Syndrome
Ghostbusters: The Game (surprisingly decent on the Wii) - Better on 360 or PS3
Guilty Gear XX ^ Core - Better Than Blazblue, but better on PSP
Harvest Moon (I know some still play the series for as long as it's chugging along) - Joy can be found, though it is better on the DS.
Mushroom Men - Barf
No More Heroes (It was awesome and with upcoming sequel, who's to say it won't be more awesome) - Yeah this was gem.
Okami - (prefer the PS2 version myself personally) - Better on PS... Oh wait you said that.
Resident Evil (looks like Capcom's gonna port the rest of the original series onto the Wii, Zero and the remake already ported over to the Wii) - If they had copied Metroid Prime's Controls, maybe, but better on PS2.
Rune Factory Frontier - {Harvest Moon with swordplay) - Better on DS.

For all the "Biggest Loser"s, "Rock Band"s, and "Barbie/Bratz" garbage, there are some actually decent, if not good games for the Wii.

Didn't even mention Mario or Zelda this round. - Better on Gamecube

Fixed for you.


At Cobalt: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Gollgagh]

are you fucking kidding

no fighter is good on psp

both the dpad and nub are shit for fighters

[K.B.]

This thread is now again about Mickey and how the world of his next game should be dystopian steampunk and not bubblegum two shades darker.

[Shadow Wolf]

This thread is now again about Mickey and how the world of his next game should be dystopian steampunk and not bubblegum two shades darker.

Thank you for feex it, I rove you rong time.

So I looked at the screenshots... I'd like to see them turn the color palette down, for sure. No matter what happens, I think it's gonna be a bit of a mindfuck for people that are used to the 7 minute Mickey cartoons spreading joy and happiness. Will it be Resident Mickey: Attack of the Thrice Damned Demon Bunnies of the Apocalypse? I doubt it. That said, it'll at least get a rental when it comes out.

[Toadofsky]

Thank you for feex it, I rove you rong time.

So I looked at the screenshots... I'd like to see them turn the color palette down, for sure. No matter what happens, I think it's gonna be a bit of a mindfuck for people that are used to the 7 minute Mickey cartoons spreading joy and happiness. Will it be Resident Mickey: Attack of the Thrice Damned Demon Bunnies of the Apocalypse? I doubt it. That said, it'll at least get a rental when it comes out.


As for the whole debate of GOOD Wii games, haven't we had this conversation for like a year or two now? And we still haven't gotten over it?:|

Getting back on the topic at hand...

After seeing some of the screen shots, I don't think I have that much confidence in the game (I didn't really know much about the game in the first place), of course, it's still a year before this game comes out, and the look could potentially change before then. And until it's out, I'd rather not get too over hyped for it.

[NeoForte]

New info from Game INformer.com at:

http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/10/20/Inside-the-Game_3A00_-An-In_2D00_Depth-Look-at-Epic-Mickey_1920_s-Art-and-Animation.aspx

If you have problems looking at some of the vieos there's direct links here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18115947&postcount=3374

and some animated gifs here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18117141&postcount=3388