Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos - History

[Xerol Oplan]

And that my freind, will be up to the Lava Reef remixer.

Which I was going to work in anyway. Start out really rocking the piano, with the main bit from Lava Reef, then calm down for Hidden Palace, then build up to a kickass ending. Whatever the piano-equivalant word for "shred" is, that's what it'll be doing.

And why aren't we remixing the bonus stages, anyway? At least the one with the spheres, I really liked that(and was really really good at it too--almost always could get to 999 rings and several extra lives in there).

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

WEll... there are quite a few tracks.

[Upthorn]

And that my freind, will be up to the Lava Reef remixer.

Which I was going to work in anyway. Start out really rocking the piano, with the main bit from Lava Reef, then calm down for Hidden Palace, then build up to a kickass ending. Whatever the piano-equivalant word for "shred" is, that's what it'll be doing.

And why aren't we remixing the bonus stages, anyway? At least the one with the spheres, I really liked that(and was really really good at it too--almost always could get to 999 rings and several extra lives in there).

I really liked the music from that stage, too. It could be a nice segue between the last Sonic 3 track and the first S&K. Although I'd kinda assume there'd be a boss track there. Maybe Launch Base->Boss 2->Glow Ball->Mushroom Hill

Just a thought...

[jmr]

Race Results:
If we're having the themes from the race stages, why not the music from the results screen? On the other hand, why are we having the themes from the race stages, where do they fit in?
I'm thinking about incorperating this track into the ending of my 'Endless Mine' mix (http://www.rayza.net/misc/jmr-eternalexcavationWIP.mp3). As EM would be the last compitition track, I feel it's appropriate.

[Upthorn]

Race Results:
If we're having the themes from the race stages, why not the music from the results screen? On the other hand, why are we having the themes from the race stages, where do they fit in?
I'm thinking about incorperating this track into the ending of my 'Endless Mine' mix (http://www.rayza.net/misc/EM-2.mp3). As EM would be the last compitition track, I feel it's appropriate.

I agree with that.

[Murmeli Walan]

Sonic & Knuckles Credits:
This is mostly just a mix of a bunch of themes from S&K, remixing this would overlap Mushroom Hill, Lava Reef, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Death Egg(?), Sky Sanctuary, and S&K Super Sonic. Remixing this could very well be pointless.

Actually, I think that could work very well as a piano medley. I remember someone once doing a piano remix of the Sonic 2 Credits that was very well done. A nice piano track would be a good way to end the project, in my opinion.

[Antipode]

Just thought I'd ask something...is anyone adding lyrics to any of these tracks? I don't want to discourage it, but, well, I don't know, none of these would really fit well with lyrics. Just in my opinion.

[Upthorn]

Sonic & Knuckles Credits:
This is mostly just a mix of a bunch of themes from S&K, remixing this would overlap Mushroom Hill, Lava Reef, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Death Egg(?), Sky Sanctuary, and S&K Super Sonic. Remixing this could very well be pointless.

Actually, I think that could work very well as a piano medley. I remember someone once doing a piano remix of the Sonic 2 Credits that was very well done. A nice piano track would be a good way to end the project, in my opinion.

As part of this project, though, if you were going to do a medley, it seems to me like you'd kind of have to include every track that got remixed... which would be time consuming, and pointless.

I'd like to see a remix of the S&K end credits, but I don't think it belongs in this project. Neither does the guy who started it.

[UltimateSonicFan]

Edit: Never Mind, list was updated. If joker can't make the Doomsday Zone remix in time, I can try doing it.

[Sir_NutS]

Just for the record, I've been buggin sadorf about it and he's gonna give hidden palace zone a try.
I'll make sure he does. When it comes to bug the hell out of people, I'm an expert. :wink:

[Hadyn]

Just for the record, I've been buggin sadorf about it and he's gonna give hidden palace zone a try.
I'll make sure he does. When it comes to bug the hell out of people, I'm an expert. :wink:

Wow... Good work nuts!

[Beatdrop]

Oh, uh, for those that haven't been following the thread in the Works In Progress board, I updated my WIP.

http://www.paletteswap.com/beatdrop/Beatdrop%20-%20Sonic%20&%20Knuckles%20-%20Catapult.mp3

[The Joker]

Rejoice peasants! For I have updated my track. I think I've found a good way to go with it. Anyway, still really not mastered & some fx issues in this one, but it's just to give ya'll a good idea what I'm going for. Oh yeah, & I have no intention of not finishing on time. In fact as of this post right here, I officially made the deadline. But I always welcome a good competition.
the linkage:
http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/Sonic%20Knuckles%20-%20Zero%20Hour.mp3

Toma!

[DJ Nova]

djnova's has a good intro idea, but the sounds are waaaay too default fruityloops

I know, and i'm still working on that...

[Upthorn]

Rejoice peasants! For I have updated my track. I think I've found a good way to go with it. Anyway, still really not mastered & some fx issues in this one, but it's just to give ya'll a good idea what I'm going for. Oh yeah, & I have no intention of not finishing on time. In fact as of this post right here, I officially made the deadline. But I always welcome a good competition.
the linkage:
http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/Sonic%20Knuckles%20-%20Zero%20Hour.mp3

Toma!

What happened between the first WIP and this? The only real problem in that one was that the repeated high pitched bell sound was way too loud/high pitched.

In this one, I can no longer even recognize the source. It sounds like it might be in there, but it's definitely being overpowered by what should be the background loops.

[NEG]

Good luck on the project people.

If I may suggest 2 things:

1)If you're going to mix Sonic3&k. You might as well do it properly. By that I mean all the tunes that are possible as a mix.

2)One thing I quite liked from the DKC project is each song fading out and into the next one. If you lot could manage this I think it'll be even better.

Roll on 2008!

[jmr]

If I may suggest 2 things:
1)If you're going to mix Sonic3&k. You might as well do it properly. By that I mean all the tunes that are possible as a mix.
2)One thing I quite liked from the DKC project is each song fading out and into the next one. If you lot could manage this I think it'll be even better.
Roll on 2008!
1. I agree, we should do as many tracks as possible. On the other hand, 40 TRACKS (http://members.lycos.co.uk/jeffswallpapers/boardfiles/EMW/40tracks.txt) would be to many.
EDIT: Although it would be cool if someone made a medley of some of the unused tracks, such as the 3 Bonus Stages.
2. Not all of the songs from the DKC Project were 'crossfaded'. But yeah, I would like to see the tracks on this one 'crossfaded' into one continous track.

[Castel]

Good luck on the project people.
2)One thing I quite liked from the DKC project is each song fading out and into the next one. If you lot could manage this I think it'll be even better.


Relics of the Chozo had better transfers between songs, since you can listen to it on a media player and it sounds like on whole song. If that could be pulled of on this project, it'd be awesome. :D

[Sora]

so far: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54175
yes I know I keep spelling it wrong. I'm typing at a weird angle

[edit]oh, and because my name is sooo long just call me APC.

[NEG]

Good luck on the project people.
2)One thing I quite liked from the DKC project is each song fading out and into the next one. If you lot could manage this I think it'll be even better.


Relics of the Chozo had better transfers between songs, since you can listen to it on a media player and it sounds like on whole song. If that could be pulled of on this project, it'd be awesome. :D

Ah. Didn't download those since I never played Super. Guess I should grab the rom sometime..

[Rayza]

if someone made a medley of some of the unused tracks, such as the 3 Bonus Stages.

Thats the best idea I've heard so far..

I would like to see the tracks on this one 'crossfaded' into one continous track.

Personally I don't like this idea because if you only wanted to listen to 1 song, or have your winamp/cd player on random, the start and end of the songs dont sound quite right. Since winamp has a crossfade plugin, why not use that for personal use instead of hard-coding the files with unnecessary crossfades..

[StarKirby]

DAMN! I was gonna apply to remix the S&K Glowing Ball bonus level. But I see its been cut out. Or am I misguided?

[hobo]

I don't know which Endless Mine mix I like more...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

DAMN! I was gonna apply to remix the S&K Glowing Ball bonus level. But I see its been cut out. Or am I misguided?

I'm thinking about it. BUT PEOPLE, there are 26 tracks!!! Do you really want more than that?

[Rayza]

DAMN! I was gonna apply to remix the S&K Glowing Ball bonus level. But I see its been cut out. Or am I misguided?

If you really want to do it, and can provide a WIP, im sure sith will let it get in there somehow..

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Actually rayza, that's a great idea.


IF YOU WANT A TRACK ON THE SOUNDTRACK THAT ISN'T LISTED IN THE OFFICIAL PROJECT TRACKLIST, MAKE A WIP. IF IT IS GOOD ENOUGH, I'LL LET IT ON, BUT I'M BEING EXTRA STRICT.

[jmr]

Personally I don't like this idea because if you only wanted to listen to 1 song, or have your winamp/cd player on random, the start and end of the songs dont sound quite right. Since winamp has a crossfade plugin, why not use that for personal use instead of hard-coding the files with unnecessary crossfades..Hmm... excellent point.
I don't know which Endless Mine mix I like more... Yeah, there's something about Siamey's mix that I really like, but can't quite match!

Anyway, here's an update to my WIP:
'Eternal Excavation' (http://www.rayza.net/misc/jmr-eternalexcavationWIP.mp3)
Thanks once again to Rayza for hosting this!
Known issues:
- annoying clicking from 0:15 to 0:20
- yeah, it needs to be longer and have more variation.
- something's not right with the drum track at 1:45... ( I thought I fixed that! Oh well!)
EDIT: I might eventually do a drum overhaul if I can come up with something better than what's already there...
So, what do you think?

[Hadyn]

Personally I don't like this idea because if you only wanted to listen to 1 song, or have your winamp/cd player on random, the start and end of the songs dont sound quite right. Since winamp has a crossfade plugin, why not use that for personal use instead of hard-coding the files with unnecessary crossfades..

But this isn't a collection of individual mixes - it's a project, one living, breathing whole.

I agree that if the mixes are submitted to OCR individually then the fades should be removed, but I feel that the project should be designed in such a way that a listener gets the most from the experience if they sit there and listen to it as one overall piece of work, in the order and all that's it's made in. That's what a project is, in my opinion.

~Hadyn

[GeckoYamori]

But this isn't a collection of individual mixes - it's a project, one living, breathing whole.


With this being a very public project, we have a lot of mixers with very different styles and goals in mind, so it IS a collection of individual mixes. They will certainly not flow together very good.

[jmr]

Well, GeckoYamori has another good point. If the songs don't sound well mixed together, it shouldn't be done. The way I see it, crossfading would only be good if it was executed properly (not a generic 5 second crossfade, but crossfades that fit the individual tracks. (I've done it before with Adobe Audition, and it's turned out pretty good.) As well, not all tracks would be suited to crossfading. If crossfading is used, it must be used properly.

[Upthorn]

But this isn't a collection of individual mixes - it's a project, one living, breathing whole.


With this being a very public project, we have a lot of mixers with very different styles and goals in mind, so it IS a collection of individual mixes. They will certainly not flow together very good.

That has yet to be seen. With some degree of organization and cooperation, it is more than possible to go fluidly from one style to the next.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It's not worth crossfading. There is a reason for this that I will mention later on. Even now, there is no need to really talk about that now.

[StarKirby]

I am an ameteaur, but I do have a decent idea for a remix for the Glowball Stage. I will provide a WIP soon. If I don't make it, that'll be okay. I'm still working on my skills.

[GaMeBoX]

here's now 46 seconds of wip stuff from me... still under heavvy construction. right now i have been tweaking and testing a couple of different instruments... also, been having some issues with the shuffle/straight conflicts in the melody vs the drums.. just thought id share if someone wants a snapshot 8)

Mushroom Hill*:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3683

[UltimateSonicFan]

Rejoice peasants! For I have updated my track. I think I've found a good way to go with it. Anyway, still really not mastered & some fx issues in this one, but it's just to give ya'll a good idea what I'm going for. Oh yeah, & I have no intention of not finishing on time. In fact as of this post right here, I officially made the deadline. But I always welcome a good competition.
the linkage:
http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/Sonic%20Knuckles%20-%20Zero%20Hour.mp3

Toma!

I'm sorry for being such a critic, but I adore this track, and my expectations are sky high for it. That said, this remix lacks the hit that the original has. It never reaches a climax, despite the building of instruments in the intro. It kind of just feels messy. The track sounds more like background music to a heavy guitar riff than a balls-to-the-wall, screaming techno excursion. So, my words of helpfull critisism are to build on that interesting phaser bass with a random, cymbal intesive beat, a strong synth brass section, and finally capture the original harmony with strings paired with the bass. Also, thanks for attempting so far to remix the hardest track ever to remix.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Here is a short rough WIP.

Link Removed, doing a new version in a different style.

[Upthorn]

here's now 46 seconds of wip stuff from me... still under heavvy construction. right now i have been tweaking and testing a couple of different instruments... also, been having some issues with the shuffle/straight conflicts in the melody vs the drums.. just thought id share if someone wants a snapshot 8)

Mushroom Hill*:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3683
It sounds very simple right now. And there are segments of the melody missing. But if you finish the melody and give the sound more depth, it's coming along nicely.


Here is a short rough WIP.

Link Removed, doing a new version in a different style.

I kinda liked it. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't bad, either. Maybe the other style will be better, though. *shrug*

[Antipode]

It might be cool if you put some steel drums in there somewhere.

[Antipode]

Just thought I'd let y'all know, I have a WIP on the way pretty quick here, and it'll be up sometime this week. I'm pretty busy at the moment with school issues.

[Speedy]

i see now it's Sonic 3 and Knuckles going into a project right after the Sonic 2 Project. 8O I'm not that surprised, but I would be if this whole project got done right on it's deadline! Good luck to you all!! 8)

[Rayza]

This is pretty short, but just what I've been doing so far..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure01.mp3

It may all change tomorrow.. Just something I thought of early in the morning..

[The Joker]

Well, I appreciate any feedback. So thanks. But I'd like to make one thing clear. This is in no way finished. It's more of me just settling on a sound, but still playing around with the piece. So, keep that in mind before you rush to judgement.

[Hadyn]

This is pretty short, but just what I've been doing so far..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure01.mp3

It may all change tomorrow.. Just something I thought of early in the morning..

Nice work man! I like the sound, I think you should keep going with this idea :)

[abortretryignore]

This is pretty short, but just what I've been doing so far..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure01.mp3

It may all change tomorrow.. Just something I thought of early in the morning..

LOVE IT!! Don't change a thing, and keep it going!

[Sora]

need more feedback, please
UPDATE:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1469545#1469545

[hobo]

Ooooh, I like. Good work APC

[Bren]

This is pretty short, but just what I've been doing so far..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure01.mp3

It may all change tomorrow.. Just something I thought of early in the morning..

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[djbrayster]

Will these remixes include the original boss tunes from Sonic 3 or only those from Sonic & Knuckles?

As for knuckles, I decided not to use his theme because it's minimal. But if enough people really want to have kunckles theme on this, I may consider having it on. but I feel 25 tracks it enough.

Err.. if people work it right Knuckles' Sonic 3 theme can be classed as the Sonic 3 midboss theme. seeing as it was the same percussion. I would love more mixes if that boss theme. I know this is way old. I just realised where the topic was. I have been looking in the site projects forum wondering why I can see nothing about the project. :oops:
Its at times like this I wish I had more time to really learn how to mix ;_;

And Rayza that Azure Lake demo mix is sweet!

[hobo]

That Azure Lake mix is great, it really captures the feel of the level.

[Nineko]

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure01.mp3
:D very nice. keep on making these great sounds!

[Upthorn]

This is pretty short, but just what I've been doing so far..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure01.mp3

It may all change tomorrow.. Just something I thought of early in the morning..

I only have one problem. The synth the main part is rough and kind of hurts my ears. If you changed it to something softer, this would be perfect.

[hobo]

This just makes me want to play Azure Lake race again.

[Terial]

Rayza, I LOVE the azure mix, however I think that the synth at about 0:13 is a little loud and high pitched, maybey you could tone it down a bit, atm, its really hard to hear the beats in the background, but when I set my eqaulizer just right, I could hear those beats underneath the synth together, and it went together really really well. but it's great work nonetheless! ^_^ I hope you can do that well on the sonic 3 credits. :D

[Rayza]

Rayza, I LOVE the azure mix, however I think that the synth at about 0:13 is a little loud and high pitched, maybey you could tone it down a bit, atm, its really hard to hear the beats in the background

Yeh I know theres a bunch of work to be done still, I like to get my instruments right before I move on with the main composing part. I do tend to make my leads a bit shrill especially when working with headphones. Don't worry, this is like a pre-wip, or something.. Just wanted to let people know I'm not just sitting around :)

[AMT]

Wow, both Sanctuary and Azure Lake are great! Definitly keep going on Azure, the style is perfect.

[Sir_NutS]

The enthusiasm on this project amazes me.

[Upthorn]

need more feedback, please
UPDATE:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1469545#1469545

Your first version had fewer problems, and they were easier to fix. Why did you do this one while I was trying to polish the old version?

[Bren]

I finally decided to post my WIP...anywho, this is completely different than anything any of you are expecting (not probably, definitely), I just hope you like it. Also, I am aware of the add being too quiet at 3:22. It takes a half hour to render this, so Ill fix that among other things next update. Anyway, here's the link (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/bbennett/egg%20stadium_4.mp3)

feedback + suggestions would be great.

[UltimateSonicFan]

Well, I appreciate any feedback. So thanks. But I'd like to make one thing clear. This is in no way finished. It's more of me just settling on a sound, but still playing around with the piece. So, keep that in mind before you rush to judgement.

Sorry, I was kind of rude in the way I put some things. I always envisioned a techno-orchestra-metal piece, and I'm trying to work on that but I lack any skills with drums. However, you do, so do you have any tips (and btw, what prog do you use?).

[hobo]

Woah, love the mix DJBren! Keep it up!

[Upthorn]

I finally decided to post my WIP...anywho, this is completely different than anything any of you are expecting (not probably, definitely), I just hope you like it. Also, I am aware of the add being too quiet at 3:22. It takes a half hour to render this, so Ill fix that among other things next update. Anyway, here's the link (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/bbennett/egg%20stadium_4.mp3)

feedback + suggestions would be great.

Your low tone in the main theme melody isn't quite low enough. (The second and sixth notes in the part that sounds vaguely like synth horns). Other than that, I love the direction you took this.

[Bren]

Thanks, Im really glad you both enjoyed it so far. Upthorn, could you be a bit more specific? I cant really pinpoint what it is you're talking about. What time does it come in?

[Upthorn]

Thanks, Im really glad you both enjoyed it so far. Upthorn, could you be a bit more specific? I cant really pinpoint what it is you're talking about. What time does it come in?

It's the loop of the main theme. In your mix it starts at 0:25. In the original it would start as soon as you started the level. The second and sixth notes in your version are a bit too high to be on key.

Maybe just by a half-step or so.

Edit: Just to try and make sure I've made it clear, I'm adding another phrasing of the description:

The first and second notes in the loop that comes in at 0:25, in all cases of the loop, are high, and slightly off key.

[Sora]

need more feedback, please
UPDATE:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1469545#1469545

Your first version had fewer problems, and they were easier to fix. Why did you do this one while I was trying to polish the old version?

ahhhh it's okay!! I have to versions so I still have the old one that I gave you so I'll work on that one harder and scrap the other one. :wink:

[Upthorn]

need more feedback, please
UPDATE:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1469545#1469545

Your first version had fewer problems, and they were easier to fix. Why did you do this one while I was trying to polish the old version?

ahhhh it's okay!! I have to versions so I still have the old one that I gave you so I'll work on that one harder and scrap the other one. :wink:
Okay. For a while there I was worried you'd abandoned that version while I was working on it. That would have been upsetting.

[Ichitootah]

Alright, my first WIP is ready.

I haven't worked more than an hour on this, so it's pretty rough and short. Any suggestions, ideas on where the song should progress from here?

I've radically changed the feel of the piece from a bouncy sound (pretty ugly) to a more ambient sound (nicer, in my opinion).

Anyway, www.soundclick.com/bands/6/ichitootahmusic.htm

(Helium Stairway)

Glad people are making progress on their respective works as well. Feedback much appreciated. I'm a pretty new mixer, and not that good yet, but I'm still working at it, and suggestions will definitely be taken into account.

Edit: Soundclick (where my song is hosted )is down, hopefully it'll be back up later.

[Bren]

Thanks, Im really glad you both enjoyed it so far. Upthorn, could you be a bit more specific? I cant really pinpoint what it is you're talking about. What time does it come in?

It's the loop of the main theme. In your mix it starts at 0:25. In the original it would start as soon as you started the level. The second and sixth notes in your version are a bit too high to be on key.

Maybe just by a half-step or so.

Edit: Just to try and make sure I've made it clear, I'm adding another phrasing of the description:

The first and second notes in the loop that comes in at 0:25, in all cases of the loop, are high, and slightly off key.

Hmm, well just to test your theory, I raised the whole song by a half step (matching the GYM) and it seems to be the same. Perhaps you means out of tune, or it was the octave difference that made it sound different (the mix has that section playing an octave higher than the ost)

Anyway, I think I like how the song sounds a half step up, I might leave it this way. :)

I did lower the pitch slightly, and it sounds better now, so it was probably the tuning which needed....um tuning? :roll:

Also, I lowered the guitar one octave in the main theme.

Ok, rendering's done. Heres the New version (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/bbennett/egg%20stadium_5.mp3)

And here's the Old version (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/bbennett/egg%20stadium_4.mp3)

What do you think? Half step up or normal?

[Upthorn]

Thanks, Im really glad you both enjoyed it so far. Upthorn, could you be a bit more specific? I cant really pinpoint what it is you're talking about. What time does it come in?

It's the loop of the main theme. In your mix it starts at 0:25. In the original it would start as soon as you started the level. The second and sixth notes in your version are a bit too high to be on key.

Maybe just by a half-step or so.

Edit: Just to try and make sure I've made it clear, I'm adding another phrasing of the description:

The first and second notes in the loop that comes in at 0:25, in all cases of the loop, are high, and slightly off key.

Hmm, well just to test your theory, I raised the whole song by a half step (matching the GYM) and it seems to be the same. Perhaps you means out of tune, or it was the octave difference that made it sound different (the mix has that section playing an octave higher than the ost)

Anyway, I think I like how the song sounds a half step up, I might leave it this way. :)

I did lower the pitch slightly, and it sounds better now, so it was probably the tuning which needed....um tuning? :roll:

Also, I lowered the guitar one octave in the main theme.

Ok, rendering's done. Heres the New version (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/bbennett/egg%20stadium_5.mp3)

And here's the Old version (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/bbennett/egg%20stadium_4.mp3)

What do you think? Half step up or normal?

The new version no longer sounds off key to me. Perfect.

[Sora]

I'm getting mixed replies :?
which one do people like more? the first one I did, or the second?
both need more of the sky sanctuary melody in the beginning, I know

[Upthorn]

Okay. I need feedback on a possible collaborative submission between myself and APC.

Song is here (http://upthorn.mspencer.net/temp/fordownloading/SkySanctuaryWIP.mp3)
Direct comments, criticsm, and suggestions here (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1471686)

[Hadyn]

Okay. I need feedback on a possible collaborative submission between myself and APC.

Song is here (http://upthorn.mspencer.net/temp/fordownloading/SkySanctuaryWIP.mp3)
Direct comments, criticsm, and suggestions here (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1471686)

There is some horrible clipping going on there... Your EQ work isn't so great - are you maybe using a sub or something to mix this? maybe cheap headphones? There's wayyy too much volume on the kick drum, and it's killing the mix. The other volumes and frequencies are a little dodgy too...

Other than that, though, It's a pretty cool mix..

Fix the EQ stuff, and i'll give more feedback after hearing it properly ^^

[Upthorn]

Okay. I need feedback on a possible collaborative submission between myself and APC.

Song is here (http://upthorn.mspencer.net/temp/fordownloading/SkySanctuaryWIP.mp3)
Direct comments, criticsm, and suggestions here (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1471686)

There is some horrible clipping going on there... Your EQ work isn't so great - are you maybe using a sub or something to mix this? maybe cheap headphones? There's wayyy too much volume on the kick drum, and it's killing the mix. The other volumes and frequencies are a little dodgy too...

Other than that, though, It's a pretty cool mix..

Fix the EQ stuff, and i'll give more feedback after hearing it properly ^^
Fixed the EQ. I think. http://upthorn.mspencer.net/temp/fordownloading/SkySanctuaryWIPEQfix.mp3

[Nicole Adams]

Drown Warning:
I wouldn't be overly upset it this were used in the Hydrocity remix. Just a little, though.

Hmm, that could possibly work for the ending of the song. I'll have to talk to Gman and see what he thinks.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Attention Everyone!

I am feeling super super super sick right now. It's fucked up, everything is swirling around me, and I feel damn lightheaded. I'm going to try to sleep this off, so I wont be able to update that much today. Sorry about this.

[Nicole Adams]

That's okay. Eat your chicken soup and just get better! :D

[Upthorn]

Attention Everyone!

I am feeling super super super sick right now. It's fucked up, everything is swirling around me, and I feel damn lightheaded. I'm going to try to sleep this off, so I wont be able to update that much today. Sorry about this.

Let us know if there's any way we can help while you're sick.

[UltimateSonicFan]

Drown Warning:
I wouldn't be overly upset it this were used in the Hydrocity remix. Just a little, though.

Hmm, that could possibly work for the ending of the song. I'll have to talk to Gman and see what he thinks.

Get rid of that background loop that keeps going up and down the scale. Its out of place in lots of areas.

[hobo]

Attention Everyone!

I am feeling super super super sick right now. It's fucked up, everything is swirling around me, and I feel damn lightheaded. I'm going to try to sleep this off, so I wont be able to update that much today. Sorry about this.

Damn, hope you get better soon :(

[Ichitootah]

Soundclick is back up, anyone feel like listening to my WIP and making suggestions?

www.soundclick.com/bands/6/ichitootahmusic.htm

(Helium Stairway)

or

http://www.soundclick.us/fastk6/09/01/freemp3/ichitootah+heliumstairway.mp3
should work too.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Update - I'm doing better, I still feel crapy, but I can manage now.

Ichi, this is.. surprising. In a good way. My only complaint is that there is no groove yet.

[Hadyn]

Well, Ichi, i'm impressed :D

I like what i'm hearing so far... my only complaint is that one of the drum sounds you've got sounds like mike speakers popping or crackling. It's that kind of higher-pitch 'pop' kinda sound that plays in the drums from 00:56 onwards. Remove that, and I'm happy ^^

As for ideas? Kick in some massive drums right where this ends, add a more defined lead (with more high frequencies so it stands out more) and some louder background pads/strings. You can have it play the same thing that it plays towards the end of what you've got so far - just make it sound fuller and louder - before transitioning into a different section. Perhaps it goes quieter again, but still retains the hi-fi sound with more frequency range than what you've currently got there.

Yeah... what you've got sounds a little lo-fi and muddy because there's a lack of high-frequencies (something I know, because I used to do it all the time until sadorf taught me some nifty EQ tricks). But that's okay. The lo-fi sounds suits the mood and atmosphere that you've got so far. Just make sure that once it transisitions into a fuller sound, you boost up the higher frequencies on some of the instruments to balance out the lower ones.

One cool trick is to split your drum track into three channels - boost up the low frequencies on the kicks, the mid frequencies on the snares, and the high frequencies on the hats. It really does make it sound that much fuller ^^

I'll give you an example incase you're wondering what the hell i'm on about ;)
This is me before I EQ'd my stuff right:
http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/sadorfish.mp3

And this is me after Sadorf showed me tha light:
http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/sadorfishweeee.mp3

EDIT: fixed links

So yeah. You can see a pretty drastic improvement, and the only real major change was some equalising ^^

I hope some of that helps - if you need me to help out in any other way, just ask. I've got access to both FL and Reason (being at an audio college is teh roxor :D ), so if you want help with anything, just ask ^^

I really do love what you've got so far, and I'm dying to hear more! Hurry up! :P

Oh, and sithlord - good to see you're making a fast recovery :)

~Hadyn

[Hetcenus]

What exactly does WIP mean? I kind of deduced it from other topics, but I'd like to be sure? If it is what I think it is, I'm only waiting for a mic here.

PS: I haven't come for more than a week, I think, so I lost 15 pages or so. I still didn't read them... due to 9600 bps connection at 1:00am.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

What does WIP mean....? 8O







Work in Progress.

[RoeTaKa]

WIP is just for a rough ground of what you're doing with the song, where it's going, what it sounds like etc. Just so we know you aren't gonna fuck it up. I won't be posting a WIP, I'd rather just finish my song. I won't encourage the same if you aren't sure about your mix.

Analoq and I are switching mixes, he will be doing Marble Garden now and I will be doing *sigh* Ice Cap. Which, actually, I'm excited about, I'd like to see if I can do anything with it other people really haven't.

Alright, haven't listened to wip's yet but I will be on hand to help with your mix's.

[Ichitootah]

Hadyn, I'm not sure which snare you're talking about, but I am trying the EQ trick you suggested. :)

[Upthorn]

Well, Ichi, i'm impressed :D

I like what i'm hearing so far... my only complaint is that one of the drum sounds you've got sounds like mike speakers popping or crackling. It's that kind of higher-pitch 'pop' kinda sound that plays in the drums from 00:56 onwards. Remove that, and I'm happy ^^

As for ideas? Kick in some massive drums right where this ends, add a more defined lead (with more high frequencies so it stands out more) and some louder background pads/strings. You can have it play the same thing that it plays towards the end of what you've got so far - just make it sound fuller and louder - before transitioning into a different section. Perhaps it goes quieter again, but still retains the hi-fi sound with more frequency range than what you've currently got there.

Yeah... what you've got sounds a little lo-fi and muddy because there's a lack of high-frequencies (something I know, because I used to do it all the time until sadorf taught me some nifty EQ tricks). But that's okay. The lo-fi sounds suits the mood and atmosphere that you've got so far. Just make sure that once it transisitions into a fuller sound, you boost up the higher frequencies on some of the instruments to balance out the lower ones.

One cool trick is to split your drum track into three channels - boost up the low frequencies on the kicks, the mid frequencies on the snares, and the high frequencies on the hats. It really does make it sound that much fuller ^^

I'll give you an example incase you're wondering what the hell i'm on about ;)
This is me before I EQ'd my stuff right:
http://hadyn.no-ip.org/sadorfish.mp3

And this is me after Sadorf showed me tha light:
http://hadyn.no-ip.org/sadorfishweeee.mp3

So yeah. You can see a pretty drastic improvement, and the only real major change was some equalising ^^

I hope some of that helps - if you need me to help out in any other way, just ask. I've got access to both FL and Reason (being at an audio college is teh roxor :D ), so if you want help with anything, just ask ^^

I really do love what you've got so far, and I'm dying to hear more! Hurry up! :P

Oh, and sithlord - good to see you're making a fast recovery :)

~Hadyn

Did you listen to my remix with the fixed EQ? I could really use your comments on that.

[Sadorf]

Well, Ichi, i'm impressed :D

I like what i'm hearing so far... my only complaint is that one of the drum sounds you've got sounds like mike speakers popping or crackling. It's that kind of higher-pitch 'pop' kinda sound that plays in the drums from 00:56 onwards. Remove that, and I'm happy ^^

As for ideas? Kick in some massive drums right where this ends, add a more defined lead (with more high frequencies so it stands out more) and some louder background pads/strings. You can have it play the same thing that it plays towards the end of what you've got so far - just make it sound fuller and louder - before transitioning into a different section. Perhaps it goes quieter again, but still retains the hi-fi sound with more frequency range than what you've currently got there.

Yeah... what you've got sounds a little lo-fi and muddy because there's a lack of high-frequencies (something I know, because I used to do it all the time until sadorf taught me some nifty EQ tricks). But that's okay. The lo-fi sounds suits the mood and atmosphere that you've got so far. Just make sure that once it transisitions into a fuller sound, you boost up the higher frequencies on some of the instruments to balance out the lower ones.

One cool trick is to split your drum track into three channels - boost up the low frequencies on the kicks, the mid frequencies on the snares, and the high frequencies on the hats. It really does make it sound that much fuller ^^

I'll give you an example incase you're wondering what the hell i'm on about ;)
This is me before I EQ'd my stuff right:
http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/sadorfish.mp3

And this is me after Sadorf showed me tha light:
http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/sadorfishweeee.mp3

EDIT: fixed links

So yeah. You can see a pretty drastic improvement, and the only real major change was some equalising ^^

I hope some of that helps - if you need me to help out in any other way, just ask. I've got access to both FL and Reason (being at an audio college is teh roxor :D ), so if you want help with anything, just ask ^^

I really do love what you've got so far, and I'm dying to hear more! Hurry up! :P

Oh, and sithlord - good to see you're making a fast recovery :)

~Hadyn

:D
http://66.221.70.133/sadorf/Music/Dunno_Demo3.mp3

[Patrick Burns]

One cool trick is to split your drum track into three channels - boost up the low frequencies on the kicks, the mid frequencies on the snares, and the high frequencies on the hats. It really does make it sound that much fuller ^^

or, how about you just leave it on one channel, and turn the volume up... wakka wakka wa :tomatoface:
...or not

no really, good tip

[Peon U]

Well, Ichi, i'm impressed :D

I like what i'm hearing so far... my only complaint is that one of the drum sounds you've got sounds like mike speakers popping or crackling. It's that kind of higher-pitch 'pop' kinda sound that plays in the drums from 00:56 onwards. Remove that, and I'm happy ^^

As for ideas? Kick in some massive drums right where this ends, add a more defined lead (with more high frequencies so it stands out more) and some louder background pads/strings. You can have it play the same thing that it plays towards the end of what you've got so far - just make it sound fuller and louder - before transitioning into a different section. Perhaps it goes quieter again, but still retains the hi-fi sound with more frequency range than what you've currently got there.

Yeah... what you've got sounds a little lo-fi and muddy because there's a lack of high-frequencies (something I know, because I used to do it all the time until sadorf taught me some nifty EQ tricks). But that's okay. The lo-fi sounds suits the mood and atmosphere that you've got so far. Just make sure that once it transisitions into a fuller sound, you boost up the higher frequencies on some of the instruments to balance out the lower ones.

One cool trick is to split your drum track into three channels - boost up the low frequencies on the kicks, the mid frequencies on the snares, and the high frequencies on the hats. It really does make it sound that much fuller ^^

I'll give you an example incase you're wondering what the hell i'm on about ;)
This is me before I EQ'd my stuff right:
http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/sadorfish.mp3

And this is me after Sadorf showed me tha light:
http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/sadorfishweeee.mp3

EDIT: fixed links

So yeah. You can see a pretty drastic improvement, and the only real major change was some equalising ^^

I hope some of that helps - if you need me to help out in any other way, just ask. I've got access to both FL and Reason (being at an audio college is teh roxor :D ), so if you want help with anything, just ask ^^

I really do love what you've got so far, and I'm dying to hear more! Hurry up! :P

Oh, and sithlord - good to see you're making a fast recovery :)

~Hadyn

:D
http://66.221.70.133/sadorf/Music/Dunno_Demo3.mp3

wow i likes

[hobo]

Okay. I need feedback on a possible collaborative submission between myself and APC.

Song is here (http://upthorn.mspencer.net/temp/fordownloading/SkySanctuaryWIP.mp3)
Direct comments, criticsm, and suggestions here (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1471686)

There is some horrible clipping going on there... Your EQ work isn't so great - are you maybe using a sub or something to mix this? maybe cheap headphones? There's wayyy too much volume on the kick drum, and it's killing the mix. The other volumes and frequencies are a little dodgy too...

Other than that, though, It's a pretty cool mix..

Fix the EQ stuff, and i'll give more feedback after hearing it properly ^^
Fixed the EQ. I think. http://upthorn.mspencer.net/temp/fordownloading/SkySanctuaryWIPEQfix.mp3

I love it! It's damn near perfect.

[The Joker]

Upthorn, your mix is great... though one thing strikes me as a bit odd. Your mix sounds a whole lot like a reworked "Dark Corners" by J.Cuts off of a FL demo song. So... hmm, I don't know, I'd start over or at least make some maojr tweaks to set it apart from said demo song.

[The Joker]

Upthorn, your mix is great... though one thing strikes me as a bit odd. Your mix sounds a whole lot like a reworked "Dark Corners" by J.Cuts off of a FL demo song. So... hmm, I don't know, I'd start over or at least make some maojr tweaks to set it apart from said demo song.

[Upthorn]

Upthorn, your mix is great... though one thing strikes me as a bit odd. Your mix sounds a whole lot like a reworked "Dark Corners" by J.Cuts off of a FL demo song. So... hmm, I don't know, I'd start over or at least make some maojr tweaks to set it apart from said demo song.

Thanks. I'll change it.

PS: You accidentally posted twice.

[Hetcenus]

What does WIP mean....? 8O







Work in Progress.

WIP is just for a rough ground of what you're doing with the song, where it's going, what it sounds like etc. Just so we know you aren't gonna fuck it up.

Thank you both for helping me. You still gotta teach me Internet English a lot more...
Anyway, it's more or less what I had thought. I hope I upload a WIP by next week (although I still think it's a little weak)

[DUCKB0Y]

I hope this turns out better than the Sonic 2 project because frankly... Only like... one or two songs on that project were... good.

[hobo]

This will be good. The WIPs so far are fantastic.

[Upthorn]

I hope this turns out better than the Sonic 2 project because frankly... Only like... one or two songs on that project were... good.

Well, the S3&K project has better source material. And (I think) a larger portion of experienced remixers.

[hobo]

I also think the enthusiasm is better here, because many, many people wanted a S3+K project, so everyone wants to pitch in.

[DUCKB0Y]

I hope this turns out better than the Sonic 2 project because frankly... Only like... one or two songs on that project were... good.

Well, the S3&K project has better source material.

Once could argue that, as I think Sonic 2's music was better.

Of course, Sonic 2's my favorite, so I'm a little biased :P

[RoeTaKa]

I hope this turns out better than the Sonic 2 project because frankly... Only like... one or two songs on that project were... good.

Well, the S3&K project has better source material. And (I think) a larger portion of experienced remixers.

Check the (YAY)'s :wink:.

[Vilecat]

I've only seen there's finally a S3&K remix project on OCR today :lol: I'm very eager to see what will become of it, and let's hope it'll move to the Site Project board (and stay there). I'll lurk more to see what becomes of this project, good luck guys!... like you need any, mwhaha! <3!!!

[Sadorf]

first page says cleared for wip, i havent even started song yet...so yeah that aint right


k bye

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

http://www.vgmix.com/download?3713

Here is a short sample WIP of how my song is going to sound. It's like a taste test lol.

http://www.vgmix.com/download?3713

[Hadyn]

http://www.vgmix.com/download?3713

Here is a short sample WIP of how my song is going to sound. It's like a taste test lol.

http://www.vgmix.com/download?3713

I like the weird bass, and I love the drums! The Lead throws me off a little bit... both in what it's playing and it's overall sound. Strings are cool, but seem a little muddy. Maybe too much reverb on them compared to the rest of the song? You could up their mid and high frequencies aswell to get a crisper sound ^^

Other than that... hmmm... The progression seems a little slow... And the way it's built up at the start, it's like I expect the strings to come in at 26:00 - and so it feels a little empty from then until they come in.

Cool ideas though, and I can't wait to hear a little more :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Ugh, I'm stuck on working the main melody into the song..ugh.

[Hadyn]

I hope this turns out better than the Sonic 2 project because frankly... Only like... one or two songs on that project were... good.

Well, the S3&K project has better source material. And (I think) a larger portion of experienced remixers.

Check the (YAY)'s :wink:.

Heh, I don't think the (YAY)'s were such a great idea... It might make the other mixers feel a little less yay :P

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Good point.

[hobo]

Hey, nice mix sith! :)

[Upthorn]

Upthorn, your mix is great... though one thing strikes me as a bit odd. Your mix sounds a whole lot like a reworked "Dark Corners" by J.Cuts off of a FL demo song. So... hmm, I don't know, I'd start over or at least make some maojr tweaks to set it apart from said demo song.

Thanks. I'll change it.

PS: You accidentally posted twice.

I have a new version that should sound better, let me know if it still has problems. http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1476060

[UltimateSonicFan]

I've been trying to get out a work in progress, but I just plain suck at drum beats. Its not like I don't have any ideas, its just that it is impossible for me to convey them in FL. Also, I lack any space to show any work I have. So, a little help? (BTW: Joker, I forgot to mention you have real skills with the drums)

[Red Shadow]

sign up at vgmix and post the tracks there. its what a lot of people do.

[RoeTaKa]

Um, I really don't think songs should be put as wip's on vgmix cause it spoils the project idea, everyone will know the songs when it's released and to me that just says pointless.

[Red Shadow]

i suppose oyu have a point there. it wont bother me though, since i generally dont download WIPs.

anyway if he doesnt want that, i guess he could sign up for multiple free accounts and host the tracks, that way its spread across a number of places for alleviation of bandwidth concerns.

sign up for geocities, angelfire, tripod, lycos, etc. use more than one.

I hope this turns out better than the Sonic 2 project because frankly... Only like... one or two songs on that project were... good.

Well, the S3&K project has better source material.

Once could argue that, as I think Sonic 2's music was better.

Of course, Sonic 2's my favorite, so I'm a little biased :P
If you like the sonic 2 music as much as you say you do, you would love the whole thing. Just because you were expecting it to all be trance/piano/rock, etc., and got your hopes up, doesnt mean the other genre'd songs are bad.

Trance/techno/so on and so forth makes up my favorite overall genre of music, and i prefer those over just about anything else, but i like the whole damned compilation because its music from the game i have the fondest memories of and still like to play, and i know where all of it is from. I expect to enjoy this project just as much, and you should take the time to listen to the rest of the sonic 2 project. LEARN TO LIKE IT.

[Rayza]

Ok then.. My first "official" WIP for the project.
Azure lake, serene and peaceful at the start then gets going into race mode, happy and dancey. Ignore the tiny click when the rhythm chords come in, Reason loves doing this to me.

Let me know what you think..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure02.mp3

[Hadyn]

Awesome stuff Rayza!

I have a few suggestions though...

First of all, keep the water/bird soundeffects going until the full drums come in (maybe have them fade out slowly as the drums take over). As it is, it seemed they faded out too early and left a gap of emptyness.

I like the synths, but they all seem kind of... Blunt. I'm not sure how to describe it, they just lack any real impact... Or something. Maybe add a tiny bit of distortion or somethng? I don't know... I could be completely wrong. I love what they play and everything, just the sound of them seems a little weak.

Ohwell, can't wait to hear more - keep it up! :D

[Terial]

Rayza, your azure lake is awesome! its got that same cool beat and happy feeling to it as the previous version did, and I like the begining. It reminds me of jivemaster's symphonic ruin (one of my absolute fav remixes) I think it would be cool if you made the rain a little bit louder, and there sounds like there is a ruffiling noise, is that supposed to be wind? its not really clear. but I like where your going with the song! keep it up :)

[Rayza]

I think it would be cool if you made the rain a little bit louder, and there sounds like there is a ruffiling noise, is that supposed to be wind? its not really clear.

Well its a recording of rain on a lake with birds chirping and such.. I can probably bring up the level on the rain a little bit. Glad people are liking it so far..

I think sith said he didn't want us posting WIP's after a certain time so I don't know how many more versions I'll be setting free on here. Probably at least one more after this one..

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I'll let you guys know when to stop posting WIPs. :wink:

[Upthorn]

I think it would be cool if you made the rain a little bit louder, and there sounds like there is a ruffiling noise, is that supposed to be wind? its not really clear.

Well its a recording of rain on a lake with birds chirping and such.. I can probably bring up the level on the rain a little bit. Glad people are liking it so far..

I think sith said he didn't want us posting WIP's after a certain time so I don't know how many more versions I'll be setting free on here. Probably at least one more after this one..

Great work so far. Again, my only complaint is that the lead instrument sounds jagged and screechy. In the fingernails on chalk-board sense.

[Rayza]

Again, my only complaint is that the lead instrument sounds jagged and screechy. In the fingernails on chalk-board sense.

It's been toned way down since the first WIP I posted. Maybe you have too much treble on your speaker settings..

[Upthorn]

Again, my only complaint is that the lead instrument sounds jagged and screechy. In the fingernails on chalk-board sense.

It's been toned way down since the first WIP I posted. Maybe you have too much treble on your speaker settings..

I did notice that it had been toned down. But there's something about it that still makes me kind of want to cover my ears. May I humbly suggest changing the instrument to something just a little less jagged?

[Rayza]

I did notice that it had been toned down. But there's something about it that still makes me kind of want to cover my ears. May I humbly suggest changing the instrument to something just a little less jagged?

Only if I hear more similar comments from people. I've sent it out to many people I know and no one's made that particular comment. Personally I think its fine. I'm not really keen on changing a lead instrument because 1 person doesnt like it. :?

[SnappleMan]

370+ replies and I JUST NOW heard of this project? I must be getting old...


I just hope you people do a better job than that Hedgehog Heaven piece of trash.

[SnappleMan]

<exclude analoq's tracks>

Tertiated.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

370+ replies and I JUST NOW heard of this project? I must be getting old...


I just hope you people do a better job than that Hedgehog Heaven piece of trash.

Can you say "pwnt"?

[DarkeSword]

370+ replies and I JUST NOW heard of this project? I must be getting old...


I just hope you people do a better job than that Hedgehog Heaven piece of trash.

Can you say "pwnt"?

Pwnt.

:|

[Terial]

I cannot wait to hear the WIP of the Sonic 3 Credits! XD

anyway, after the deadline, will you guys create a site and post songs there and update it allot with new stuff? Or will you just wait untill the project is perfected to post it on the web? just curious.

[Rayza]

I cannot wait to hear the WIP of the Sonic 3 Credits! XD

anyway, after the deadline, will you guys create a site and post songs there and update it allot with new stuff? Or will you just wait untill the project is perfected to post it on the web? just curious.

That deadline is only for the first work in progress. There will be more deadlines after the April 9th one.

[hobo]

Upthorn: One of my favorite songs in the game is now also one of my favorite mixes in this project.

Rayza: I love the way you're taking this mix, keep it up!

[Nicole Adams]

Heh, I don't think the (YAY)'s were such a great idea... It might make the other mixers feel a little less yay :P

Yay to me and Joker! (Since we were like the only two that didn't have "YAY" next to our names.) :) Nice job on your WIP, Rayza. I think the lead synth sounds fine to me. A lot more "gentle" than how it was in your first WIP. Keep it up!

[Ichitootah]

<exclude analoq's tracks>

Tertiated.

The project just included many new mixers, and didn't have very rigorous quality screening, but that doesn't mean that the tracks by the experienced mixers that WERE on the project were bad. And there were quite a few.

[SlightlyOddGuy]

This project needs Sonic 3 Miniboss and the Glowing Spheres bonus stage. :cry:

Anyway, most of the WIPs so far freakin' own, and I'm ecstatic to see this have such a great start. Here's hoping that it doesn't take a year and a half.

[Upthorn]

This project needs Sonic 3 Miniboss and the Glowing Spheres bonus stage. :cry:

Anyway, most of the WIPs so far freakin' own, and I'm ecstatic to see this have such a great start. Here's hoping that it doesn't take a year and a half.

I agree with you on the Sonic 3 miniboss.

Glowing Spheres, though, is kind of iffy. The music is good, but there are a whole bunch of tracks to do already, and where, exactly, would it go?

[SlightlyOddGuy]

I'd drop it in next to the special stage, personally. I'll agree that it isn't crucial, but it'd be nice to at least get one of the bonus stages in there. Depends on the mixers and overall project length, I suppose.

[Vilecat]

I've been lurking in this thread for a while now, so excuse me for my sudden intrusion...
But couldn't the different stage bonus songs be mixed together? Instead of adding only one, having all of them in a song could be nice. Of course that's if 1st : someone's up to remix them and 2nd : if it can be added to the project. Or something like that...

[Upthorn]

I've been lurking in this thread for a while now, so excuse me for my sudden intrusion...
But couldn't the different stage bonus songs be mixed together? Instead of adding only one, having all of them in a song could be nice. Of course that's if 1st : someone's up to remix them and 2nd : if it can be added to the project. Or something like that...

The three songs have radically different styles. Two of them are the kind of songs you wouldn't want to listen to outside of the context of playing the game. Glowing Spheres is the exception.

[Vilecat]

Aaw =/
I don't know, i like the 3 songs about as much. Kinda agree that they don't have the same "feeling", but i thought remixing them together could work.

[SlightlyOddGuy]

The official S3&K remix album has a track with the three of them and the special stage mixed together, mainly accomplished through adding drum solos between each song. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't a great success either.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I've made comments about the left off tracks, and I'm not going to restate them again.

[UltimateSonicFan]

Hey Sith, do you want me to send you my WIP via e-mail? I wish I could have more but the bones of it, but I suck at drums, so even the WIP will lack them. Thank you.

[The Joker]

Oh yeah, I barely remembered you asked for drum help... somewhere in the boards. I wish I could help you USF. But I really can't without knowing what program your using... what sound your going for, your actual mix sounds like.

[Patrick Burns]

I've made comments about the left off tracks, and I'm not going to restate them again.

for heaven's sake, people... this we-need-a-project-to-remix-this-track mentality is really annoying me. if there are some tracks you want hear arranged, then step up to the plate and take a crack at it! all you need is some interest (which im assuming you have seeing as though you are here) some software (there is plenty of free stuff on the net) and a little bit of help (found right here at ocr). i guess there are any number of reasons why some one would start a project, but the primary reason is to encourage everyone (and not just those who happened to be in right place at the right time and "claimed" their track) to remix a soundtrack that isn't getting much attention. actually being on a project, particularly one of this caliber, makes little difference... other than getting your track posted on a web site that is only going to be seen by ocr goers anyway

[Rayza]

if there are some tracks you want hear arranged, then step up to the plate and take a crack at it!

Well it's one thing to say it, but something entirely different to do it. I'm hoping that this project will have a certain caliber of quality to it. Not just anyone will be able to grab some software and make a tune that can stand among the others as a collection.

Sure, I encourage anyone to make a mix of something that hasn't yet been decided upon. However, if you're new to writing music, keep in mind it will probably be a long shot to be included.

[Patrick Burns]

Sure, I encourage anyone to make a mix of something that hasn't yet been decided upon. However, if you're new to writing music, keep in mind it will probably be a long shot to be included.

not suggesting that anyone's mix would be added to the project... i just want more people to try this stuff out for themselves.

btw, rayza. im getting a 404 on your remix of vega's theme

[Rayza]

btw, rayza. im getting a 404 on your remix of vega's theme

Oh yeh.. I was cleaning out my webspace and forgot I had linked to that one.. It's back now, thanks..

[Vilecat]

if there are some tracks you want hear arranged, then step up to the plate and take a crack at it!

Well it's one thing to say it, but something entirely different to do it. I'm hoping that this project will have a certain caliber of quality to it. Not just anyone will be able to grab some software and make a tune that can stand among the others as a collection.

Sure, I encourage anyone to make a mix of something that hasn't yet been decided upon. However, if you're new to writing music, keep in mind it will probably be a long shot to be included.

I didn't think a suggestion would create such a commotion. I do have an idea of how much work it can take to remix a song, and i know working with audio isn't my thing, even post-synchro. I doubt it can stop us from asking around though (there wouldn't be a Requests section on the board if so), out of curiosity.
I also agree on the quality part, which is why beginners, or even non-remixers should only be spectators, and not try to accomplish a job we're not good enough at. But a more experienced remixer could do it for us :D

Sorry sithlord-aku, if you got pissed at this. Can i do another suggestion though? When you said you previously talked about the matter... err... where is it exactly? Could you put it on the front page with the other info (big letters maybe)? It might keep people from asking over and over ^_^;;

[Rayza]

IF YOU WANT A TRACK ON THE SOUNDTRACK THAT ISN'T LISTED IN THE OFFICIAL PROJECT TRACKLIST, MAKE A WIP. IF IT IS GOOD ENOUGH, I'LL LET IT ON, BUT I'M BEING EXTRA STRICT.

I think the problem was that there was already like 25 tracks or something and it was getting a little lengthy. The meat and potatoes of the soundtrack are there, just a few tracks that people are nit-picking about. We'll see what happens I guess..

[sae]

370+ replies and I JUST NOW heard of this project? I must be getting old...


I just hope you people do a better job than that Hedgehog Heaven piece of trash.

Can you say "pwnt"?

What? Aren't you sort of riding on the buzz created by HH, or am I not understanding your reply?

I don't know how much longer I'll be able to stay away from the wip's. But, bah, I don't have the musical knowledge to help critique them, so no use sort of spoiling it for myself.

[Rayza]

What? Aren't you sort of riding on the buzz created by HH, or am I not understanding your reply?

No, Snappleman didn't like HH overall. I don't think calling it a piece of trash would be the right way to put it either.

Oh and 400 posts now, 1/5 of the way to getting this moved to the Site Projects forum!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Yeah, what Rayza said :wink:


And yes USF, you can email the song to me. I'd RATHER you message me though.

[SnappleMan]

No, Snappleman didn't like HH overall. I don't think calling it a piece of trash would be the right way to put it either.

But any other way wouldn't really be SnappleMan-ish
:( ...

[UltimateSonicFan]

Thanks Joker, I have FL Studio 4, and it does include a pretty good drum sample kit. I can make high energy beats, but they just don't always fit the melody and are repetitive. How do you transfer your ideas on PC?

EDIT: I was also thinking of making a surround sound version, does anyone think that would be cool?

[Sadorf]

Just for the record, I've been buggin sadorf about it and he's gonna give hidden palace zone a try.
I'll make sure he does. When it comes to bug the hell out of people, I'm an expert. :wink:

Just for the record, I have tried like 5 times to get a decent start, but every single try has led to pure shit. I said to nuts and a few others, that i would give one attempt at the song...well, ive tried more than once. Find someone else to mix the song, i will not be trying to mix it anymore.

SO YEAH HIDDEN PALACE ZONE IS FREE

Thats all i got.. good luck on the project

BYE

[GaMeBoX]

I hereby announce that i claim the *Lava Reef Zone* (/Hidden Palace witch is said to be considered as one track right ??) Anyways, i got a nice wip goin on, ill post it in a day or two..

[Sadorf]

I hereby announce that i claim the Lava Reef Zone/Hidden Palace (witch is said to be considered as one track right ??) Anyways, i got a nice wip goin on, ill post it in a day or two..

No they are not considered one track. while hidden palace does have some of the lava reef melody, its not all the same.

[GaMeBoX]

ok, that line was just removed from the front page this very second.... or maybe not... i could swear that note was there a minute ago... well well... no problem

[Sir_NutS]

Just for the record, I've been buggin sadorf about it and he's gonna give hidden palace zone a try.
I'll make sure he does. When it comes to bug the hell out of people, I'm an expert. :wink:

Just for the record, I have tried like 5 times to get a decent start, but every single try has led to pure shit. I said to nuts and a few others, that i would give one attempt at the song...well, ive tried more than once. Find someone else to mix the song, i will not be trying to mix it anymore.

SO YEAH HIDDEN PALACE ZONE IS FREE

Thats all i got.. good luck on the project

BYE

U BNASTARD!!!
DON'T THINK I'VE GIVEN UP BUGGIN YOU!!! THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!

-_-

anyways I MIGHT give Hidden Palace a try. So put me on the list with a BIG maybe on it.

[Xerol Oplan]

Ok, I will take my track through to completion, so please take that "tentative" off. Also, although someone else may do a better remix, I'm going to make 3 songs: Lava Reef alone, Hidden Palace alone, and then a single combined track, since when I started working I assumed Hidden Palace was part of Lava Reef.

[-RK-]

Well, I'm officially dropping Mushroom hill, but I have Picked up Azure Lake zone, and have a cool, chill WIP that I'll post up in a day or two.

[Upthorn]

Ok, I will take my track through to completion, so please take that "tentative" off. Also, although someone else may do a better remix, I'm going to make 3 songs: Lava Reef alone, Hidden Palace alone, and then a single combined track, since when I started working I assumed Hidden Palace was part of Lava Reef.

I went back and played through sonic 3 & knuckles the other day. I figured out why there's been all this controversy about whether or not Lava Reef and Hidden Palace are the same song:
There is no "Act 2" song for Lava Reef. Instead, the Hidden Palace song plays during Lava Reef Act 2.

[Rayza]

Well, I'm officially dropping Mushroom hill, but I have Picked up Azure Lake zone, and have a cool, chill WIP that I'll post up in a day or two.

Steppin' on my toes eh.. Heh.. Well a chillout mix for a race zone is an interesting idea.

[Sora]

newest WIP
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54175&start=15

[The Joker]

You can put me down as a maybe in Hidden Palace as well Sith. Oh, & I should be uploading a newer version of my Doomsday mix... like in the next week.

[GaMeBoX]

got the lava reef wip uploaded now!

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3741

[Hadyn]

Very cool, but the bass and drums are far too overpowering.

[Terial]

Gamebox, I like your lava reef WIP so far, its great.
I do feel that you need more of a bild-up in the begining, it kind of just jumps onto you. also, at one point in the song it feels kind of blank and really soft, I personally do not like this, but it's your mix, and I do like it overall despite those two points

[DamonPlus]

What´s the final name? Equidna Heaven? Master Emeralds? Super Sonic Jam? Hedgeog Night Fever???

[Rayza]

What´s the final name? Equidna Heaven? Master Emeralds? Super Sonic Jam? Hedgeog Night Fever???

Why don't we worry about getting the first WIP finished for now.. The title is one of the last things we need to worry about. [/repeat endlessly]

[DamonPlus]

I only asked it because people was giving names like 10 pages ago.

[Hadyn]

Yeah, like two people, and they were stopped pretty promptly.

Think of this like a story or something - in that you title it after it's done.

~Hadyn

[-RK-]

Well, I'm officially dropping Mushroom hill, but I have Picked up Azure Lake zone, and have a cool, chill WIP that I'll post up in a day or two.

Steppin' on my toes eh.. Heh.. Well a chillout mix for a race zone is an interesting idea.

Haha, yeah. I thought why not instead of making a crappy mix of a zone I HATE, make a good one of a zone I love? :lol:

All I care is the best song get's on the project. I like yours thus far Rayza, BTW.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

The drums on your track GB are painful. Also, if you aren't going to record live guitar, I'd be interested in doing it. It's shaping up good. minus the drums. Oh, and don't drop Mushroom Hill, your remix of it is one of my favorite WIPs so far.

[-RK-]

Hmm... Lucky for all of you, I got bored. :lol:

Here's a quick prototype I whipped up in about an hour. Barely any mastering or nothin, just a WIP that is basically showing what style I'm going for. This isnt really the arrangement either. But a good prototype WIP thingie.

Momentary Standstill (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3747)

I like everyone elses so far too. Havent heard something I havent liked yet.

[Hadyn]

Still haven't found a way to successfully extend my mix, and so i'm going to have a rest from it for a little bit. I'll think of something eventually, but i'll going to rest from it for a little while.

In the mean time... I kind of want to give Sky Sanctuary a shot - I love that tune. Might have something done within the next few days (or maybe even hours - depends how I feel).

[Upthorn]

Still haven't found a way to successfully extend my mix, and so i'm going to have a rest from it for a little bit. I'll think of something eventually, but i'll going to rest from it for a little while.

In the mean time... I kind of want to give Sky Sanctuary a shot - I love that tune. Might have something done within the next few days (or maybe even hours - depends how I feel).

If you want to work on sky sanctuary, I could use some help with mine...

[Hadyn]

I would, but I really want to go in my own direction with it. Thanks for the offer, though.

[Upthorn]

I wouldn't consider it offering so much as begging, but anyway.
I look forward to hearing your interpretation.

[Antipode]

So just a quick question - in terms of what is due on April 9th, is it a fully completed but not polished song or just at least something showing that we're making progress, and if so how long should it be minimum (:30, 1:00, etc.)?

[Hadyn]

So just a quick question - in terms of what is due on April 9th, is it a fully completed but not polished song or just at least something showing that we're making progress, and if so how long should it be minimum (:30, 1:00, etc.)?

My take:

Something that shows progress, but not completed... My opinion is that it should atleast be a minute long to fully prove that you're really going somewhere with it.

[Rayza]

My opinion is that it should atleast be a minute long to fully prove that you're really going somewhere with it.

Thats probably about right, however it's quite easy to make a minute long piece. It's fleshing it out with new ideas without making it grow tiresome which is the hard part.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

The first deadline is to weed the people who are actually serious about the project.

[SnappleMan]

You said weed...

[Hadyn]

I wouldn't consider it offering so much as begging.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I can help. There's just such a big style gap between what i would do and what you have.

I'll give you one tip for future remixing though - find a real life song that you like, then try to mimic that real song's style and sound when you're remixing. Having something there to steal ideas from is very helpful, and it helps you to achieve a kind of realisitc sound, as if your song is a real song - which is basically what remixing is about ^^

Good luck with your mix... I still haven't started mine yet, but i'll get to it soon-ish.

~Hadyn

PS. Sith - is that okay? If I take a break from one remix to work on another?

[hobo]

w00t, I'm going to San Fransisco for 2 weeks, so I'm taking the WIPs with me on my mp3 player. Good Luck with the project, I'll see you when I get back. :D

[Rexy]

Have a nice time out there hobo :) Hopefully we should have some surprises waiting for when you come back.

Mind, for some odd reason I have the urge to arrange one of the sources for piano; may end up taking a while to provide something though :?

[hobo]

Thanks, I'll try. Hopefully I'll be able to check up from Internet cafés etc.

[Hadyn]

Yeah, have fun!

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am STILL working on a sky sanctuary arrangement, although that other guy is going to beat me probably. I'll hopefully have the .mus file ready by next week.

[-RK-]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am STILL working on a sky sanctuary arrangement, although that other guy is going to beat me probably. I'll hopefully have the .mus file ready by next week.

Keep your head up Azar! Just keep working hard! Sky Sanctuary is a sweet song anyways. I'm excited to hear what you come up with.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am STILL working on a sky sanctuary arrangement, although that other guy is going to beat me probably. I'll hopefully have the .mus file ready by next week.

Keep your head up Azar! Just keep working hard! Sky Sanctuary is a sweet song anyways. I'm excited to hear what you come up with.

Thanks a lot for the encouagement dude, I appreciate that. :D I really just hope this hard rocking version fits the song well, and I really hope the .mus file is good enough for sith to convert. All in all though, I will have an arrangement ready next week. I just hope it's good. :oops:

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am STILL working on a sky sanctuary arrangement, although that other guy is going to beat me probably. I'll hopefully have the .mus file ready by next week.

Keep your head up Azar! Just keep working hard! Sky Sanctuary is a sweet song anyways. I'm excited to hear what you come up with.

Thanks a lot for the encouagement dude, I appreciate that. :D I really just hope this hard rocking version fits the song well, and I really hope the .mus file is good enough for sith to convert. All in all though, I will have an arrangement ready next week. I just hope it's good. :oops:

mus... cough

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am STILL working on a sky sanctuary arrangement, although that other guy is going to beat me probably. I'll hopefully have the .mus file ready by next week.

Keep your head up Azar! Just keep working hard! Sky Sanctuary is a sweet song anyways. I'm excited to hear what you come up with.

Thanks a lot for the encouagement dude, I appreciate that. :D I really just hope this hard rocking version fits the song well, and I really hope the .mus file is good enough for sith to convert. All in all though, I will have an arrangement ready next week. I just hope it's good. :oops:

mus... cough

Dont worry, I''l have someone else convert it to a midi for me, I have the trail version of finale and it wont let me save it as a midi.

[-RK-]

Trial Finale sucks. The only thing it's good for is printing sheet music. Isnt there like a 30 dollar Finale Notepad that adds all the midi support and stuff?

[Sora]

[quote="Holy Warrior Azar"]Just checking in to let you guys know I am STILL working on a sky sanctuary arrangement, although that other guy is going to beat me probably.quote]
*pops outta nowhere*
ha. I doubt it.

[Xerol Oplan]

I can convert the trial finale files for you.

Anyway, in other news, this project came up(see sig) so I'm wondering if what I've posted so far is satisfactory enough for a WiP or if I need more.

[Sora]

newest update: I scrapped my old project and tried a little something else:

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54175&start=15

please respond so I can fix the many errors that this most likely has. :wink:

[Terial]

APC, do you have to have a certian level on the boards to enter the topics you've made? the past 2, I havent been able to acsess because i get a message saying "The topic or post you requested does not exist"

[Upthorn]

APC, do you have to have a certian level on the boards to enter the topics you've made? the past 2, I havent been able to acsess because i get a message saying "The topic or post you requested does not exist"

The links APC posted are to the wrong place, you have to be the person who uploaded the song in order to access those pages. The correct link are http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3696

[-RK-]

Ok Sith, here's my WIP for the April 9th update. I would do more before then, but I'm going on spring break, so I dont really have any more time before I get back. I'll resume work once I get back.

This WIP should be sufficient: Momentary Standstill (http://remix.herograw.com/LordMaestro/Azure%20LakeV2.mp3)

[Sora]

APC, do you have to have a certian level on the boards to enter the topics you've made? the past 2, I havent been able to acsess because i get a message saying "The topic or post you requested does not exist"

The links APC posted are to the wrong place, you have to be the person who uploaded the song in order to access those pages. The correct link are http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3696

yeah sorry about that. I was in a hurry.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I can convert the trial finale files for you.

Anyway, in other news, this project came up(see sig) so I'm wondering if what I've posted so far is satisfactory enough for a WiP or if I need more.

No offesnse, but I need a little more from you.

[Kanjika]

Hey, id like to contribute a song or two. I randomly started a sky sanctuary arrangment that i could use here, and im also doing Chrome gadget (but i think ill submit that one to the judges instead, but im not sure). April 9th is a while away so i'll definitley have time to finish things.

[RoeTaKa]

I'm sorry I haven't been a part of this project as much as I would have liked to. I'm working on alot of things and have to get my personal business out of the way. I can't promise an April 9th wip, I can only promise a finished song between near April 9th or some time after that. You won't be disapointed at all I guarantee.

[Sora]

Hey, id like to contribute a song or two. I randomly started a sky sanctuary arrangment that i could use here, and im also doing Chrome gadget (but i think ill submit that one to the judges instead, but im not sure). April 9th is a while away so i'll definitley have time to finish things.

interested in hearing it/them :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Can you at least have SOMETHING? I can be 20 seconds, I don't care, just something to show you are here to stay.

[Xenon Odyssey]

My WIP for Hydro City:

Hydrolocity (http://home.comcast.net/~xenon_odyssey/Xenon_Odyssey_-_Hydrolocity_Bassline_-_WIP.mp3)

Granted, I haven't gotten very far, since I've been bombarded with lots of projects to have a sufficent grade at the end of the quarter. Eventually I'll have my nice alto playing over this garbled mess. And the WIP only took me 15 minutes last night.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

You gave me a WIP of a bassline? 8O

[Xenon Odyssey]

Meh, it's all I could do at the moment. If you want, I'll get some more stuff in there by April 9th. I just wanted to get something down in sound before the deadline flew by. As soon as I get the stupid projects done (4 of 'em over the break...grrr *break chocolate bunny*).

[RoeTaKa]

Can you at least have SOMETHING? I can be 20 seconds, I don't care, just something to show you are here to stay.

From guilt, I'm more than likely going to being something by 9th :P haha.

[AMT]

APC, that Sky Sanctuary mix is top notch. It captures the original feel of the level perfectly. Excellent work man, if it's this good now, the final will be even more amazing.

[Kanjika]

Sith, i think youll be pleased to hear that my Sky Sanctuary wip is coming along GREAT! Ive only worked on it for 15 minutes and its going in an awesome direction. I might be able to get a finished WIP online later, but most likely tomorrow morning.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Sith, i think youll be pleased to hear that my Sky Sanctuary wip is coming along GREAT! Ive only worked on it for 15 minutes and its going in an awesome direction. I might be able to get a finished WIP online later, but most likely tomorrow morning.

5w337!

[Sora]

Excellent work man, if it's this good now, the final will be even more amazing.
ha. that's the problem. I don't think that there's too much I'll add unless and besides the stuff that people find wrong with it. (i.e. no more synth maybe. not too many added or taken out stuff and not too much more scores.) seems to be my week point...I just sit here and say "what now."
so basically nothing dramatic. But I still don't think that I'll win. There's a lot of other ideas that are greater than this.
I'm anxious to hear other mixes of it

[Kanjika]

I'm anxious to hear other mixes of it

Im getting to it... :P

And, i think your mix could use a little more body APC. Right now its okay but i feel that somethings missing. Theres a definite melody and bassline but the song could benefit from more harmony IMO.

BTW, Would you guys like me to post a 20 second snippet, or wait for a finished WIP?

[Sora]

20 seconds doesn't seem like much but it's enough to see what you're accomplishing. sure 20 seconds.
I'll try and create another melody to insert in there or something.

[Kanjika]

Here it is. Ive included a bit of each section so you can get the feeling. This is very preliminary, and the arrangement will be improved.

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=38HYS0KDL4JWM1MM74K6EV74S8 cheapass hosting :P

Enjoy!

[Sora]

sounds very dramatic. I think it rushes into the climax of the song too often (which you probably will change anyway) I like the feel of it. It reminds me of the opening song from SSBMelee and some Pokemon battle song I heard. It has a really nice feel to it. Very orchastrated. Very nice. I likeee very much *puts on repeat*

[Kanjika]

Yes, the first theme normally plays twice as long, but i only included it once, since it basically repeats. Theres a whole intro too, and its completley original, but its unfinished and long so i didnt include it. Anyway, glad you liked it!

Anyone else comment on my wippy? ^_^

[AMT]

Yeah, SSBM intro definitly comes to mind. Nice!

[Vilecat]

Woohoo! Orchestration like i love 'em. It does have a SSBM opening, Pokemon-ish taste to it. It also reminded me of some SC1/SC2 songs. I'd like to heard more than a sample x3~~

[Sora]

it's kinda bad that I"m competeing aginst all these good songs, I like them all... at least I'll feel good when I lose :D

[Kanjika]

Now lets see what i can do with chrome gadget...thats damn hard. The arrangment is already awesome enough!

APC: Don't worry! You'll improve over time. If you dont make this project theres others (alot of them). And since you used FL obviosly, i could help you out with the song if you'd like.

[Hadyn]

Here it is. Ive included a bit of each section so you can get the feeling. This is very preliminary, and the arrangement will be improved.

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=38HYS0KDL4JWM1MM74K6EV74S8 cheapass hosting :P

Enjoy!

I'm quite impressed! Although It sounds like there's a bit too much reverb on it, and the EQ's a little muddy (need more high frequencies!). The trumpet also feels a little... "empty" when it plays the main theme, but everything else is just amazing! I LOVE IT. MAKE MORE.

Infact, I love it so much that I don't think i'll bother taking on the sky sanctuary theme any more. I want your remix to be on the project.

I might have to try another song instead, or maybe just stick to doing one remix...

It's just become a bit of a pain, working on my final boss mix... I have close to 50 patterns, atleast 8 .wavs, over 20 effects channels, several instances of Sytrus, and for the new section I have three instances of edirol orchestral.

What all of that adds up to is a VERY slow computer... and thus remixing becomes a little difficult. I might have to remove the orchestral section just so FL can run at a decent speed ^^;

~Hadyn

[Rayza]

What all of that adds up to is a VERY slow computer... and thus remixing becomes a little difficult. I might have to remove the orchestral section just so FL can run at a decent speed

I hear ya.. Reason 3.0 is running pretty sluggish for me.. Instead of taking out parts though, I'll get a new computer. :) Its been almost 2 years since I've had this one anyway.

[Upthorn]

Here it is. Ive included a bit of each section so you can get the feeling. This is very preliminary, and the arrangement will be improved.

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=38HYS0KDL4JWM1MM74K6EV74S8 cheapass hosting :P

Enjoy!

You've got a good idea there to play with, but it feels a little nervewracking as compared to the original level. Kind of like the stuff that plays in action movies when everything is going to hell.

I always felt that this level was the opposite. Knuckles just realized that he'd been tricked by Robotnik, and joined forces. And Robotnik hasn't destroyed this place yet. Except for Metal Sonic, none of the badniks are even there before you arrive.

Long story short: the music always gave me a feeling of my goal finally being in sight.

[Hadyn]

Incase anyone's interested, this was the latest version I got done before getting pissed off at how slow FL was running - http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails%203.mp3

Note that the new section is very... crap. Basically. The drums had barely been worked on, as with the piano. There's a lot of work to do there, really, but you can kind of get the idea as to what ideas i have in mind.

[Nicole Adams]

Awesome work on the "Sky Sanctuary" tune, Kanjika. Personally, I love the reverb. It has a concert hall feel to it (whose reverb can be up to four seconds, actually). Can't wait to hear more!

[Vilecat]

Hadyn, you did a great job in finding a new section. I just love that part at 2:07. The bass at 2:14 gives me a Jaws-like feeling, as if something'd be waiting to chomp my head off :0! Don't worry, that's good... the song of course :roll: I still think the same of the violin than before though.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Kanjika, your link isn't working for me.

[Kanjika]

Probably expired...heres a new one

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2029X297QFEIK1I6U2VU6ES9KM

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Probably expired...heres a new one

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2029X297QFEIK1I6U2VU6ES9KM

I lose. You will DEFINATLEY beat me.

Trial Finale sucks. The only thing it's good for is printing sheet music. Isnt there like a 30 dollar Finale Notepad that adds all the midi support and stuff?

Yes, but if I'm going to spend my cash on anything I want it to have everything. Midi keyboard support, sound fonts, something for real compositions. I'm saving up for Fruity Loops although I wont have it by April 9th. I can still do a midi wip though by hand, even though it's really hard putting in each individual note without the keyboard.


*pops outta nowhere*
ha. I doubt it.

Dont doubt it, remember, all I have is a midi. You've got more going for you than you think.

I can convert the trial finale files for you.

Thank you very much. I'll PM hopefully by the end of the week with my WIP.

BTW, sith, do you want my midi to be finished, or will you take an incomplete one as a midi, about how long do you want my WIP to be?

[-RK-]

Dude, Azar, keep the head up. Even if Kajinka's makes it to the project, at least you made a new song right? :lol:

[Kanjika]

Dude, Azar, keep the head up. Even if Kajinka's makes it to the project, at least you made a new song right? :lol:

lol i agree. Keep trying. Don't lose your motivation just because you think you've been beaten. Plenty of times i used to suck but i still tried stuff like this

and...jeez. i never meant to make everyone give up :P

[Upthorn]

I am officially attempting to remix Sky Sanctuary.

I have a question for sithlord-aku, before I submit a work in progress, though: you said that if more than one person wants to do a track, there will be a vote for which version is the best. Will the vote be based on the WIPs, or on the completed versions?

I'm assuming it will be based on the completed versions, but paranoia prevents me from officially submitting a WIP until I'm certain.

[Sadorf]

I am officially attempting to remix Sky Sanctuary.

I have a question for sithlord-aku, before I submit a work in progress, though: you said that if more than one person wants to do a track, there will be a vote for which version is the best. Will the vote be based on the WIPs, or on the completed versions?

I'm assuming it will be based on the completed versions, but paranoia prevents me from officially submitting a WIP until I'm certain.

WIll be the completed versions

[Sadorf]

meh..

after some thought for a bout 5 mins..i decided i will publicly let everyone know..that i...am....mixing... OMFG ICE CAP!...

but yeah, after hidden palace got me nowhere, and after trying a few others, i went with this so i can see if i can bring something with a little change to the shit load of ice cap mixes..

http://66.221.70.133/sadorf/Sonic3/IceCapTest3.mp3

i dount i will release any further wips, cause well..im just not that nice. this will give you all a chance to vaguely hear an idea or 2 that i have. it isnt very clean, it may even hurt your ears, but it was started less than 24 hours ago.

so enjoy (or not) the little demo.

bye bye!

:)

[Sora]

I likeee
it has that traditional Sadorf feel to it. :D

[Kanjika]

Sadorf, that mix sounds nice. It sounds clean and everything, with that nice traditional feel.

[Upthorn]

Sadorf, your WIP is actually the only one so far that I can't find a single problem with. I mean, it doesn't have an ending yet, but if you stuck one on and called it done, I'd put it in my normal playlist.

[Nineko]

sadorf... your wip is a dream that had been streamed into an mp3...
♦G♦R♦E♦A♦T♦!♦

[Hadyn]

Hey Sadorf - I think they like it.

And why the hell wouldn't they!?

Awesome work. Can't wait to hear it finished ^^

[Icy Guy]

Good WIPs so far, everyone. Yes, I'm aware I haven't made any comments yet, but I'm going to save that for April 9th or 10th.

As for my mix...

I've still got plenty of ideas, but I haven't gotten around to throwing anything down in FL yet. Instead, I'm reading Sytrus' manual (this thing is un-frickin'-believable), because I'm planning on buying it. Now why am I saying this? Simple: I want to find some way to incorporate Sytrus into my mix, and I want to buy it first. I have one day to make up my mind on whether or not I want to buy it, and after that, its price goes flying out of my range. Again.

In other words, I'm just making sure that it doesn't appear that I'm going to pull off a spectacular "OMG U BURNED OUT" trick, thus reassuring aku that I'm not going to be the first to drop off the project. I will have something done by April 9th.

Now will it be as poorly-accepted by the remixing community as Cavern Escape? At this point, I can't say. ;)

[Sadorf]

i'm glad most of you liked the demo i posted, but how about something that is a little bit more rough?

http://66.221.70.133/sadorf/Sonic3/IceCapTest4.mp3

couple reasons for the new demo, the lead needed a TINY bit more power to it to stand out a bit more. Also trying to put a few things together for some new sections of the songs. And i changed the current melodies a little while i was at it to make it sound less repetitive.

That is all for now.

bye

[Sora]

wow...Sadorf, your remix is soo good it messed up Winamp... "Winamp has incountered a problem and needs to close" ...

[Sadorf]

wow...Sadorf, your remix is soo good it messed up Winamp... "Winamp has incountered a problem and needs to close" ...

I doubt it was the mp3 that made it crash...

but if it was, blame the vbr. and to fix it

http://66.221.70.133/sadorf/Sonic3/IceCapTest5.mp3

did a few volume changes and switched some of the melodies around a bit to make it flow better, raised piano shit later in the song up an octave so it can be heard better. i encoded it at at 160kbps instead of a vbr... enjoy

bye

EDIT: OMG 500 POSTS!...

[Hadyn]

OMG YOU'RE ONE BAD DUDE!

Nice work man, keep it up ^^

[The Joker]

Alright, I've uploaded a newer version of my doomsday WIP, as well as a Hidden Palace WIP. Both have a slight quirk at the beginning, I'm trying to figure out exactly whats causing them, but they are there for now. Anyway head over to the topic here:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1499898#1499898

And gimme some feedback!

[Sadorf]

Both have a slight quirk at the beginning, I'm trying to figure out exactly whats causing them, but they are there for now.

I dont know exactly what you are using to mix these. But my guess is that the reverb from the previous time it was played just carried over when it came to render the files. To fix it, you can do 2 things:
First would be to close the prog you are using, then reopen it and open the project file and just export the wav with out hitting play at all in it. This way there will be no sounds from previous play since..it wasnt played at all.
Second solution, while leaving the prob open, push play in it and let it go a a second or 2 then hit stop, this way you wont have all the noise from the end of the tracks coming in the beginning.

One of those SHOULD fix the little prob, give them a try. If it is FL you are using, i can gaurentee one of those will work, if its something else like reason, i can only guess that they will work. Give them a try and se what happens.

bye

[Hetcenus]

I'm here just to say I didn't drop the project. But I'm waiting for my broadband internet and, till there, no connection at home. So, I'll be lucky if I upload my WIP till April 9th. Hope you don't kick me if I can't... It's already done, though I still think it needs more original material, since I've been lacking creativity since... when I was born :wink: . All I can say about it is: it's an almost 6 minutes long live piano solo remix. BTW, I don't know why, the quality of the recording is really low :oops:. Can anyone help me?
And sorry, I'm not hearing the WIPs. It'll ruin the surprise...

[The Joker]

I was thinking the same thing Sadorf. So, now that I have someone else giving me the same solution, I'm gonna try it first. Thanks dude. And yeah, I use FL Studio 5.