Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos - History

[Bren]

This community is a lot less mature than I expected. No biggie, I guess.

What makes you say that? Random joking around? Its just some harmless fun :)

[Ichitootah]

I inferred that the reason that Sadorf was off the project was because of this "fun". Maybe I didn't read the thread carefully enough. Seems like kind of a needless waste of what probably would have been a good mix.

[Bren]

Eeeeehhyeah.... upon reading the previous page I see what you mean. Kind of awkward, really

[Vilecat]

Wooooah!
My net died on me for almost all last week, and i'm surprized how much work and WIPs appeared in that time. It'll probably be hard to choose between remixers once the songs will all be finished, the remixes all sound so great, even though they're still in progress.

Great job as always guys! Don't give up <3!!

[Mr. Fox]

Question is: Who's gonna claim the ultimate cliche of the soundtrack now? (ultimate cliche can also be interpretated as "freaking amazing")

[Rayza]

Question is: Who's gonna claim the ultimate cliche of the soundtrack now? (ultimate cliche can also be interpretated as "freaking amazing")

Hello everyone.. My name is Sonic the Hedgehog.. The Fastest, Thing, Alive..

[Sora]

wow...gone for an afternoon and all hell breaks loose... :roll:
it's really sad too cause I really like Sadorf's stuff :cry: well guess that's his decision

[AkumajoBelmont]

Hello everyone.. My name is Sonic the Hedgehog.. The Fastest, Thing, Alive..

That's a hint, is it, haha:))

[Sora]

oh and Welcome AkumajoBelmont. I was hopping you would consider joinging this project. Your WIP is awesome :D now the problem is gonna be deciding which Hydrocity to choose from...

[Vilecat]

True, Hydrocity and Sky Sanctuary are crowded, and Ice Cap is freezing alone in the corner. That surprizes me in a way, i doubt the song has been too over remixed yet for people to not be able to innovate on it. It's usually a very popular song, and i thought there'd be as much people giving it a try as for Hydro and Sky Sanc :roll:

[Rexy]

Ice Cap is freezing alone in the corner
:lol: Interesting punch line, man. Although it makes me wonder why so many people are aiming for Sky Sanc...*

Mind, I'd love to give a shot at Ice Cap, however I've got a lot of other projects on my hand as well as the WIP that I currently have here. Whichever happens, I hope it'll work in fitting the legacy that coverage has left behind already.

*Anyone who opted for it for the pure purpose of my take on the theme (http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01324) being utter crap will get a kick in the teeth :P

[Jivemaster]

True, Hydrocity and Sky Sanctuary are crowded, and Ice Cap is freezing alone in the corner. That surprizes me in a way, i doubt the song has been too over remixed yet for people to not be able to innovate on it. It's usually a very popular song, and i thought there'd be as much people giving it a try as for Hydro and Sky Sanc :roll:

No, it has.

-Jive

[AkumajoBelmont]

oh and Welcome AkumajoBelmont. I was hopping you would consider joinging this project. Your WIP is awesome :D now the problem is gonna be deciding which Hydrocity to choose from...

Hey, thanx... it was actually Dryer Lint who convinced me to join the project a few days ago:)) g;ad he did... this is gonna be cool:)

[GaMeBoX]

hehe, i actually have a icecap on ice witch is basicly finished, but its not that spectacular, and not that long, pretty compact.. well... ill post it in a while, and well se what happens...

[GaMeBoX]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3897

[AkumajoBelmont]

That sounds great, i love the whole vibe the track is bringing across... perhaps in the last section the main melody should be played with a bit more, but i like it a lot so far.

[Rexy]

I think another light thing we may need to look into is how we're going to structure the project. I think the Sonic 2 set ended up feeling a bit broken by having the first half dedicated to the individual zones and the second half set for all the short BGMs. So I think when the time comes, the tracks could be given a more thoughtful order to better fit the scopes of the target game, adding in a bit of balance.

I hope you understood what I meant o.O

[GaMeBoX]

perhaps in the last section the main melody should be played with a bit more

i agree, if this will be on the project ill uppgrade it a bit with new stuff...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I think another light thing we may need to look into is how we're going to structure the project. I think the Sonic 2 set ended up feeling a bit broken by having the first half dedicated to the individual zones and the second half set for all the short BGMs. So I think when the time comes, the tracks could be given a more thoughtful order to better fit the scopes of the target game, adding in a bit of balance.

I hope you understood what I meant o.O

I agree.

[Sir_NutS]

heh, I leave OCR for 14 hours and look what happens.
Anyways, the project is going great. I would give ICe Cap a try but there are several reasons why I won't
1)already have my hands full
2)If I do, the project will be named S|r_NutS and OCremixers Mix S&K
3)Enough Ice cap trance remixes.

[Terial]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3897

Man gamebox, I LOVE this. With the instruments you're using, I think you need to speed up the melody a little bit, it seems like your trying to go for an ubeat tune, but it comes off as a little... slow. It's a bit akward but I like it :D . This is awesome, I cant wait to hear more of it.

I wish Jivemaster would give us a pleasant song for this project... he's certianly well qualified from his mixes. (Symphonic Ruin being my absolute favorite mix on the site).

[Sora]

UPDATE: http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334
nothing really new. And the quality will still sound bad cause the hosting service but me on lo fi. :roll:
GaMeBoX: I really like this mix. can't wait to hear more :D

[GaMeBoX]

Well in that case, ill claim ice cap for now, if nobody has anything against it i mean. I do have mushroom hill and lavareef already...

[Dryer Lint]

UPDATE: http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334
nothing really new. And the quality will still sound bad cause the hosting service but me on lo fi. :roll:

The MP3 I downloaded is 112kbps, but it actually sounds slightly more lo-fi than the bitrate would suggest.

Some of the samples aren't too great. Especially the smash-clap-combo is pretty cheap and also quite repetetive.

It's not bad though. But you're competing with Rayza... Good luck! :wink:

[Rexy]

Also, as of now, no more new people.(unless you are going for ICECAP)
I have an idea. It may be a bit of a long shot, but we could make a deal with the people who run the Peoples' Remix Competition and get people to make a remix for that track; the winner gets put on the project. It can be possible - "Rise of a Star" and "Dark Side of Phobos" also did that ^_^

[Sir_NutS]

Also, as of now, no more new people.(unless you are going for ICECAP)
I have an idea. It may be a bit of a long shot, but we could make a deal with the people who run the Peoples' Remix Competition and get people to make a remix for that track; the winner gets put on the project. It can be possible - "Rise of a Star" and "Dark Side of Phobos" also did that ^_^
now tahts a great idea. I'm in for an Ice cap PRC.
Its a good way to fairly decide which mix is better too.

[Txai]

No More Name Talk.

...

Anyway, this project still cracks me up. I´m waiting for the conclusion. The ReMixes are more important now, I guess. And I´m sure about the ReMixer´s opportunity.

Also,

...

[Bren]

On that note...I have a suggestion: Ill volunteer my private message box for project name suggestions, and come the end of the project, Ill list them all and then people vote on which one they like most. How does this sound to completely prevent the flooding of name suggestions from the thread?

[Mr. Fox]

On that note...I have a suggestion: Ill volunteer my private message box for project name suggestions, and come the end of the project, Ill list them all and then people vote on which one they like most. How does this sound to completely prevent the flooding of name suggestions from the thread?

Thats a good idea!

Same thing to the Ice Cap competition thing.

[Upthorn]

On that note...I have a suggestion: Ill volunteer my private message box for project name suggestions, and come the end of the project, Ill list them all and then people vote on which one they like most. How does this sound to completely prevent the flooding of name suggestions from the thread?

I was actually thinking of something similar.

What might be better is if someone could set up a mini-forum somewhere for this project.

With a thread for name discussion, a thread for general project discussion (IE: what are we aiming for with this), a thread for the each of the things rexy was talking about (track order, and reasoning behind it), and a thread for WIP discussion.

[Anthrax]

Has Ice Cap been taken yet?

[Mr. Fox]

Has Ice Cap been taken yet?

GaMeBoyX has it, altough his name hasn't appeard on the main page yet, he is doing a very nice job. Rexy was talking about get a ReMixer out of the Peoples' Remix Competition, which is also a good idea!

[analoq]

i originally had icecap but gave it to roetaka because i thought i'd be better suited for marble zone.
so far it seems i was wrong.
after roetaka dropped i spoke with aku and told him i'd try and develop the ideas i originally had for icecap sometime this week.

so here's yet another avenue in which an icecap mix may materialize.
but it may end up being nothing, so, don't let this stop anyone else from trying.
cheers.

[Sora]

UPDATE: http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334
nothing really new. And the quality will still sound bad cause the hosting service but me on lo fi. :roll:

The MP3 I downloaded is 112kbps, but it actually sounds slightly more lo-fi than the bitrate would suggest.

Some of the samples aren't too great. Especially the smash-clap-combo is pretty cheap and also quite repetetive.

It's not bad though. But you're competing with Rayza... Good luck! :wink:

yeah I gotta fix alot of stuff

[Rexy]

So this means that you're hoping for Ice Cap, analoq? Sounds fair enough. :) But does this mean that you're doing that and Marble Garden?

If not, I'm sure one of them could be brought forward as a possible PRC source :o

As for the mini-forum thing... that definitely sounds good, although does anyone have any ideas on where to grab one?

[Sora]

hmmm....I remember a friend made a forum... I dunno where or how but I think it had something to do with phpBB's website

[analoq]

if my icecap treatment turns out well then i'm going to focus on that and you can throw marble zone to the (prc) dogs.

[Sora]

http://www.kazorum.com/ I think this place...

EDIT: I just made one :wink:

http://ocrp.kazorum.com/

[GaMeBoX]

if analoq wants ice cap ill leave it for him, i already got 2 songs so....

[Sora]

I don't know if this place will fulfill our needs...but there it is

[Kanjika]

Im going to go for ice cap too i think. Thne WIP should be finished soon (although i havent really started) :lol:

[Sora]

There now anyone can post names:
http://ocrp.kazorum.com/ocrp.html

[UltimateSonicFan]

UPDATE: http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334
nothing really new. And the quality will still sound bad cause the hosting service but me on lo fi. :roll:
GaMeBoX: I really like this mix. can't wait to hear more :D

Um, I'm a little confused. Why are you remixing Sonic 3's ending theme?

[Sora]

um...why not?

[Terial]

UPDATE: http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334
nothing really new. And the quality will still sound bad cause the hosting service but me on lo fi. :roll:
GaMeBoX: I really like this mix. can't wait to hear more :D

Um, I'm a little confused. Why are you remixing Sonic 3's ending theme?

Because that's one of the songs on the projects... and I must say, Sora is doing quite a good job for this song, I like where its going, I dont like it as much as the original, but its certianly better than any remix of it ive heard.

[Sora]

thanks :D soooo I made a forum for OCR's use. Who's joining?
EDIT: but of course this is all for KFC. If he doesn't like a forum.I'll delete it. I'll make him a mod or somethin'.

[Rayza]

And I´m sure about the ReMixer´s opportunity.

This guy is always talking in tongues or something..

[Sora]

need info on what to do about the forums. what kinda topics, threads, and forums do you want?

[CleverConveyence]

As you can see, I already posted there with my ideas.
d(^-^d)

[Sora]

As you can see, I already posted there with my ideas.
d(^-^d)
I know I was just wondering if the registering thing is working cause it seems like no register...ers

EDIT: when I go home I'll appoint Mods :lol:

[Sir_NutS]

And I´m sure about the ReMixer´s opportunity.

This guy is always talking in tongues or something..
Fun shit. Always.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

What's your problem "Txai"?


Oh and Rexy, Good idea, but I have to think about it a little first.

Sora, good job making that forum. That was a VERY smooth move. I will be looking over the names.

[Sora]

What's your problem "Txai"?


Oh and Rexy, Good idea, but I have to think about it a little first.

Sora, good job making that forum. That was a VERY smooth move. I will be looking over the names.

ha. I didn't think of it so don't give the credit to me :lol:

[Vilecat]

Im going to go for ice cap too i think. Thne WIP should be finished soon (although i havent really started) :lol:
Does that mean we'll get an orchestrated version of it in the song choices? Sweet 8)

[Sora]

UPDATE for all you peoples here:
http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334

[UltimateSonicFan]

I guess the main problem is you never hear it throughout the course of S3&K, and no one is doing the real ending. It would be so much more interesting to hear a remix of essentially every song in one track.

[Ichitootah]

What's your problem "Txai"?



Uh, you realize that English is not his first language, right?

He's actually pretty good for a 14 year old posting on foreign language boards.

[Antipode]

I guess the main problem is you never hear it throughout the course of S3&K, and no one is doing the real ending. It would be so much more interesting to hear a remix of essentially every song in one track.

I dunno, I sort of disagree on that - we already have all the songs here, and a remix of the real ending, unless extremely well-done, would just be a regular remix but with as many tunes crammed in as possible and not enough attention paid to the song itself.

[Sir_NutS]

OK like, put me on ice cap. and put a BIG, bold maybe besides.

[Upthorn]

And I´m sure about the ReMixer´s opportunity.

This guy is always talking in tongues or something..

I think he meant... potential?
or, ability, maybe.

Anyway, he's definitely doing a better job with English than most Americans his age would do with any other language.

[Hadyn]

What's your problem "Txai"?



Uh, you realize that English is not his first language, right?

He's actually pretty good for a 14 year old posting on foreign language boards.

I agree. Hell, as far as the internet's concerned he probably speaks better English than some English people do themselves :P

I say we should only correct him if he says something really wrong, otherwise we can normally understand what he's trying to say so it's fine.

[Hadyn]

UPDATE for all you peoples here:
http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334

I somewhat disagree with this track being on the project considering all the other S3-only tracks got dropped, but hey, i'll get over it ^^

Your progressions and song structure are quite good, but horrible equalising makes this difficult to listen to. What's with the claps? The drums sound so proffessional apart from that dodgey clap synth (and bad EQ work). It also appears that there's a fair bit of phase/flange on some of the instruments, which is making me cringe a little. I'm not sure it works in this piece - maybe try and see how it sounds without it?

Ohwell. Overall, you've got some really cool material here, I just don't agree with the Equalising and effects. I'll give it a listen on headphones later to give better EQ comments, but yeah.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

What's your problem "Txai"?



Uh, you realize that English is not his first language, right?

He's actually pretty good for a 14 year old posting on foreign language boards.

Actually, I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up and sorry to Txai. Nuts, I'll update the first page with your name when I get back from my classes.

[carra]

UPDATE for all you peoples here:
http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334

I somewhat disagree with this track being on the project considering all the other S3-only tracks got dropped, but hey, i'll get over it ^^

I think this project is so good because it's pushing many people to mix Sonic songs and put them together. Now the song is getting done it wouldn't be very clever to put it aside...

Anyway Sora, I have to say I liked the previous version best. When I listen the new one, I don't find the same feeling... I think you have overworked it. Doesn't anyone think the same?

[Terial]

UPDATE for all you peoples here:
http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334

I somewhat disagree with this track being on the project considering all the other S3-only tracks got dropped, but hey, i'll get over it ^^

I think this project is so good because it's pushing many people to mix Sonic songs and put them together. Now the song is getting done it wouldn't be very clever to put it aside...

Anyway Sora, I have to say I liked the previous version best. When I listen the new one, I don't find the same feeling... I think you have overworked it. Doesn't anyone think the same?

I persoanlly think he went a bit overboard with the drums in the whole song, lol. Tone down the drums please. you're putting in allot more drums than were in the original melody.

[Ichitootah]

UPDATE for all you peoples here:
http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102334

I somewhat disagree with this track being on the project considering all the other S3-only tracks got dropped, but hey, i'll get over it ^^

I think this project is so good because it's pushing many people to mix Sonic songs and put them together. Now the song is getting done it wouldn't be very clever to put it aside...

Anyway Sora, I have to say I liked the previous version best. When I listen the new one, I don't find the same feeling... I think you have overworked it. Doesn't anyone think the same?

I persoanlly think he went a bit overboard with the drums in the whole song, lol. Tone down the drums please. you're putting in allot more drums than were in the original melody.

The song has a strange watery feel... I don't know exactly what it is, possibly overcompression?

[GaMeBoX]

may be low mp3 bitrate ?

[SnappleMan]

A fart recorded at 320kbps is still a fart.

[Upthorn]

A fart recorded at 320kbps is still a fart.
But a decent song recorded at 32kbps is muddy and distorted.

[SnappleMan]

A fart recorded at 320kbps is still a fart.
But a decent song recorded at 32kbps is muddy and distorted.

And yet you completely miss the point of my post, you bombastic simpleton.

[Sir_NutS]

A fart recorded at 320kbps is still a fart.
But a decent song recorded at 32kbps is muddy and distorted.

And yet you completely miss the point of my post, you bombastic simpleton.
snappleman, stfu and record something for this project plzkthnxafk

[Upthorn]

Contrarily, I completely understood your point and you, in your ostentatious pomposity, missed mine.

Shall I rephrase it so that you can understand?
"No need to be insulting. In fact, making it insulting muddles up your point. Next time just say 'The problem here is not the bitrate.'"

[SnappleMan]

Contrarily, I completely understood your point and you, in your ostentatious pomposity, missed mine.

Shall I rephrase it so that you can understand?
"No need to be insulting. In fact, making it insulting muddles up your point. Next time just say 'The problem here is not the bitrate.'"

I like how you trick yourself into thinking I give a turtles asshole about what you got to say. I recommend you load up your FL studio and get your frustration out in the form of music. Then post it here and get tons of mindless praise from everyone and their dog just because they feel too sorry for you to tell you that it sucks.

Your hostility scares me, and I fear for my safety. Please don't reply to me anymore :(

[Sora]

wow...my song seems to be controversial to some people... :wink:
the claps are gone. they were a mistake :oops:
the eq is bad I admit. My computer is so slow I had to export it quickly so I didn't get to working on it. yes it's not compressed right AND the hosting service lowers the quality of the song. sooo all in all: I like the drums. They're not going anywhere. the claps ruin the drums so they're gone. I'll see what it sounds like without the Phase. And it's up to KFC to decide if this song stays. I don't see why not... it's a song...from Sonic 3... well known... why not? as for everyone bitching at each other: argue over the PM system or somehing. Cause all you're doing is making more stuff for the remixers to scroll down when we come here. This all seems pointless... unless someone wants to help with the compression, cause I"m self taught and am still learning stuff. :wink:

[Rexy]

I hate to say this, but I feel Snapple has a point. If we're going to make this project work (and maybe surprass Hedgehog Heaven) we could do with criticising each other to help push our pieces to full perfection.

Mind, I found a nice link (http://dwellingoduels.rock-out.net/tutorials/4) that can help with some encoding issues anyone seems to have. It can be worth having a try ;)

[Sora]

I hate to say this, but I feel Snapple has a point. If we're going to make this project work (and maybe surprass Hedgehog Heaven) we could do with criticising each other to help push our pieces to full perfection.


well, yes. Criticism is nice, as long as it's helpful and not a waste. :wink:

[Sora]

ok the forum idea was great but it would help if everyone was there too. http://ocrp.kazorum.com/ocrp.html
that way you don't have to keep scrolling through stuff. The link is now in my sig when you want to go there. So if ALL remixers would register there, it'll work out easier. :wink:

[UltimateSonicFan]

I guess the main problem is you never hear it throughout the course of S3&K, and no one is doing the real ending. It would be so much more interesting to hear a remix of essentially every song in one track.

I dunno, I sort of disagree on that - we already have all the songs here, and a remix of the real ending, unless extremely well-done, would just be a regular remix but with as many tunes crammed in as possible and not enough attention paid to the song itself.

Mind you, there is some original melody that deserves to be remixed. Personally, I'm not that impressed by his remix. I'm not going to go in depth about melody and its cohesiveness, because that would make me a hypocrite. However, I will say the real ending would appeal to everybody moreso than doing a different games' ending for the xth time.

[-RK-]

Wow, I've definately been away awhile from this thread. Lots of controversy. :lol:

Anyways, I hope to have a completed arrangement by mid next week. Just checking in I guess.

[Sora]

I guess the main problem is you never hear it throughout the course of S3&K, and no one is doing the real ending. It would be so much more interesting to hear a remix of essentially every song in one track.

I dunno, I sort of disagree on that - we already have all the songs here, and a remix of the real ending, unless extremely well-done, would just be a regular remix but with as many tunes crammed in as possible and not enough attention paid to the song itself.

Mind you, there is some original melody that deserves to be remixed. Personally, I'm not that impressed by his remix. I'm not going to go in depth about melody and its cohesiveness, because that would make me a hypocrite. However, I will say the real ending would appeal to everybody moreso than doing a different games' ending for the xth time.

I don't really understand this.Are you saying that it wasn't an original part of the S3 Soundtrack? It's a well known song and deserves recognition. I don't understand how anyone calling himself "UltimateSonicFan" would think that a song from S3 shouldn't be on the CD. :?

[SlightlyOddGuy]

The "real" ending doesn't cover the Sonic 3 tunes in the first place, which is somewhat against the spirit of the project. Even if you only did the S&K tunes, that's at seven or eight zones in one song, which would be difficult to combine into a cohesive track that anyone would want to listen on its own merit, and even worse if you toss Sonic 3 zones in besides. It just makes more sense to mix one song, instead of trying to combine fourteen into a single megamix.

However, I will say the real ending would appeal to everybody moreso than doing a different games' ending for the xth time.

I personally prefer the Sonic 3 ending anyway, and wish they would've used it in S3&K instead of the S&K ending, which doesn't do the full game justice.

[Sora]

whoo a thread to limit scrolling:
http://ocrp.kazorum.com/ocrp-about13.html
that's what it's here for :wink:
let's not let the people of OC see us quarrel. 8)

[SnappleMan]

Hah, thanks for the backup, Rexy, but I didn't even hear the dudes song :( I just replied for the sake of being an asshole. Looks like I stirred up quite a bit of controversy!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Anyway, updated the main page with Kanji and Nuts.

[SnappleMan]

Hello and welcome to
THE SONIC 3 & KNUCKLES REMIX PROJECT

Second W.I.P Deadline "Pending"

I have been wanted to do remixes for this soundtrack for as long as I can remember. It is my personal favorite Sonic soundtrack, and knowing that people want to do this project just made me want to do it even more.

One issue I had with trying to make this soundtrack into a remix project was the fact that it has quite a few tracks within it. I thought about it and came up with a simple solution.

Let's use "Mushroom Hill Zone 1 and 2" as an example.
These are two seperate zones, but under the surface, they have the same melodies. This has led me to decide that we should just put the zones togheter and let you pic the source material from the two zones of the area you decided to try and remix. Sound simple?

Here is the list of tracks that will be used in the soundtrack(the stars by the names are for cleared W.I.Ps)(If your name has 3 "!"s on it, it means by the end of the day, without a WIP, you are gone(unless you contact me with a good reason).).:

Data Select - claimed by KungFuChicken!*
Angel Island Zone - claimed by Rexy*
Hydrocity - claimed by yoshi_84 and Gman(collab)*/or Red Tailed Fox*/or Xenon Odyssey*/or AkumajoBelmont*
Marble Garden - claimed by analoq(pending)
Carnival Night - claimed by Less Ashamed Of Self*
Icecap - claimed GaMeBoX*/or analoq(pending)/or Kanjika/or Sir Nuts(maybe)
Launch Base - claimed by GeckoYamori*
Mushroom Hill - claimed by GaMeBoX*
Flying Battery - claimed by Beatdrop*
Sandopolis - claimed by DarkeSword*
Lava Reef - claimed by GaMeBoX*
Hidden Palace - claimed by Sir Nuts(with a classified collab partner)* /or Joker*
Sky Santuary - claimed by nesper*/or Sora*/or Kanjika*/or Upthorn*
Death Egg - claimed by DJBren*
Boss 1 (S&K version) - claimed by ffmusicdj*/or General Slicer*
Boss 2 - claimed by Sir Nuts*/or Red Tailed Fox and Luiza TSM(collab)*
Doomsday - claimed by Joker*/or UltimateSonicFan*
Final Boss - claimed by Hadyn*/or DjNova*
Ending Credits(S3 version) - claimed by Rayza/or Kanjika*/or Sora*
Special Stage - claimed by DCT*
Competition Menu - claimed by nesper*/or antipode*
Azure Lake Competition - claimed by Rayza*/or LordMaestro*
Balloon Park Competition - claimed by Ichitootah*
Chrome Gadget Competition - claimed by Hetcenus*
Endless Mine Competition - claimed by jeffreymroberts*/or Siamey*
Desert Palace Competition - claimed by IcyGuy*


**All other tracks will not be used**

Voting Info
***THE VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER ALL THE TRACKS ARE COMPLETED. STOP ASKING.*** Also, as of now, no more new people.(unless you are going for ICECAP)

Anyone can grab a track, and if someone has a track that you wanted to do, you can work on it as well, and then there will be a vote.
note -NO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT NAME IN THIS THREAD TAKE THE DISCUSSION HERE: http://ocrp.kazorum.com/ocrp.html -
Have fun' - SithLordAku
Click Here for the CORRECT Sonic 3 and Knuckles GYM files. (http://www.rayza.net/misc/SONIC3+K.rar)

[Hadyn]

Nice work Snappleman :P

Sora: the reason people aren't sure about including this song is because it didn't actually appear in "Sonic 3 and Knuckles" (you know, the S3 cart plugged into the S&K cart, creating the best sonic game evvveerrrrrrrr).

We're not remixing the Sonic 3 music AND the sonic and Knucles music, but rather we're remixing the music that appears in "Sonic 3 and Knuckles". For the most part, that covers the themes from both games, but some tracks from S3 are actually cut out or replaced in the soundtrack for S&K. That credits theme is one of the one that was cut out.

[-RK-]

Stepped away for awhile, and decided to play around with what I had a little more.

http://www.remix.herograw.com/LordMaestro/AzureLakeV3.mp3

Still just a prototype, messing around and such. Lots of stuff I intend to change, but it would be cool to get some early opinions on it.

[Rayza]

Since I'm a little behind on the Credits theme (due to PC changeover..) I'm posting what little I have, if only to prove that I am working on it.. Nothing much yet, just the arp, drums and bass..

Using the sidechain on the compressor to get that pumping sound when the bass kick comes in. Not sure if I like the overall feel/genre that much yet, but I'll see what other people say..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/credits01.mp3

Edit: There is no structure yet, just the parts I've been working on. No this is not necessarily how it will start, etc.. Just an example of whats going on..

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

We're not remixing the Sonic 3 music AND the sonic and Knucles music, but rather we're remixing the music that appears in "Sonic 3 and Knuckles". For the most part, that covers the themes from both games, but some tracks from S3 are actually cut out or replaced in the soundtrack for S&K. That credits theme is one of the one that was cut out.

That comment was KEY people.

[Hadyn]

Heh, apart from the typos. In the second sentence I said "S&K" instead of "S3&K", and in the last sentence I meant to say "ones" instead of "one". Ohwelllllll ^^;

~Hadyn

[Sora]

whoo seems that a lot of discussion aroud the credits. I only mixed it cause it was on the front page list thing.

[Terial]

Since I'm a little behind on the Credits theme (due to PC changeover..) I'm posting what little I have, if only to prove that I am working on it.. Nothing much yet, just the arp, drums and bass..

Using the sidechain on the compressor to get that pumping sound when the bass kick comes in. Not sure if I like the overall feel/genre that much yet, but I'll see what other people say..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/credits01.mp3

Edit: There is no structure yet, just the parts I've been working on. No this is not necessarily how it will start, etc.. Just an example of whats going on..

The instrument you chose for the techno beat at the very begining is cool. I think the bass at 0:13 needs to be louder and sound a bit "chrasier" though. Maybe clapping might go good in this song at some point? And the synth (I think its a synth? lol) that comes in at 0:28 doesnt seem right for the song. It takes longer for your WIP to "get the ball rolling" lol as compared to the original song. But that would be good if its a long song and is great ^^. Overall, its okay, as this is just you showing something you've done right? I cant wait to hear more of it from you Rayza :D

[Holy Warrior Azar]

It's crap that the Act 1 boss music from Sonic 3 was NOT carried over into Sonic 3 & Knuckles. That really sucks. Somebody outside the project should cover that one anyway.

BTW, do both Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles have Howard Drossin as the composer, or is the guy who did the music for Sonic 3 a seperate person?

[Upthorn]

Since I'm a little behind on the Credits theme (due to PC changeover..) I'm posting what little I have, if only to prove that I am working on it.. Nothing much yet, just the arp, drums and bass..

Using the sidechain on the compressor to get that pumping sound when the bass kick comes in. Not sure if I like the overall feel/genre that much yet, but I'll see what other people say..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/credits01.mp3

Edit: There is no structure yet, just the parts I've been working on. No this is not necessarily how it will start, etc.. Just an example of whats going on..

I love it so far.
The kicks that come in at 0:13 could use more loudness.

And the low synth that comes in at 0:28 sounds like the backup rhythm to a piece that you don't have ready yet... So I hope it's supposed to be the backup rhythm to a piece you don't have ready yet.

[Sora]

really good Rayza!
drats I don't like the competition

[UltimateSonicFan]

Since I'm a little behind on the Credits theme (due to PC changeover..) I'm posting what little I have, if only to prove that I am working on it.. Nothing much yet, just the arp, drums and bass..

Using the sidechain on the compressor to get that pumping sound when the bass kick comes in. Not sure if I like the overall feel/genre that much yet, but I'll see what other people say..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/credits01.mp3

Edit: There is no structure yet, just the parts I've been working on. No this is not necessarily how it will start, etc.. Just an example of whats going on..


Nice, but this doesn't appear in S3&K, like I said before. For all those who don't know, Sonic & Knuckles featured a add-in slot that allowed you to play past games with knuckles. Sonic 3 & Knuckles was designed as one game, but produced with two cartridges. Thats why there is so much continuity between the two games.

[Sora]

It's up to KFC to decide the fate of the dreaded "S3 Staff Roll" :lol: since it was on the list already, I think he's already made up his mind, but it's his call.

[Terial]

I would hate to not have the S3 Staff Roll in this project, it is my favorite sonic song ^^. I really think that it should be put in. The S&K Staff Role would have to be EXTREMLY well done to be good in this project, if that could be done, it would be nice to have both in. I would much rather see the S3 Staff Role on the project though.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Since I'm a little behind on the Credits theme (due to PC changeover..) I'm posting what little I have, if only to prove that I am working on it.. Nothing much yet, just the arp, drums and bass..

Using the sidechain on the compressor to get that pumping sound when the bass kick comes in. Not sure if I like the overall feel/genre that much yet, but I'll see what other people say..

http://www.rayza.net/misc/credits01.mp3

Edit: There is no structure yet, just the parts I've been working on. No this is not necessarily how it will start, etc.. Just an example of whats going on..


Nice, but this doesn't appear in S3&K, like I said before. For all those who don't know, Sonic & Knuckles featured a add-in slot that allowed you to play past games with knuckles. Sonic 3 & Knuckles was designed as one game, but produced with two cartridges. Thats why there is so much continuity between the two games.

OK, EVERYONE PLEASE SHUT UP

The track that will be used is the track that Rayza and Sora are doing right now. Which is the Sonic 3 credits. NO the sonic and knuckles ending will NOT be included. There should be NO MORE disscusion about it.

[Rexy]

I still feel it'll work better with the Sonic 3 credits theme - I mean, if someone had to make an interpretation of the S&K version it'll be like taking everyone else's mixes (at least some of the S&K ones) and just cutting them up and putting them against one another.

Course, we can do with a good breath of originality ^^;

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Just I case you may have missed it, I'm going to say it again.

OK, EVERYONE PLEASE SHUT UP

The track that will be used is the track that Rayza and Sora are doing right now. Which is the Sonic 3 credits. NO the sonic and knuckles ending will NOT be included. There should be NO MORE disscusion about it.

That was not directed at Rexy.

[Upthorn]

In case anyone missed it, there has been a mini-forum set up for this project at http://ocrp.kazorum.com

This should allow more orderly discussion about the various & sundry aspects of this project.
It would work better if everyone who's related to this project signed up over there.

Especially KFC (formerly known as Sith), who could then be allowed to moderate that forum.

[Rexy]

Just I case you may have missed it
Yep, I certainly did. I think we were a few seconds between each other's posts? 8O

[The Joker]

Good to see everyone's mixes are going well. I haven't posted an updated version of my mixes (by the way, I deleted the original WIP from my site). The reason being... crap, that was in parentsthesis... oh well, the reason being, I scraped those versions in favor of newer better ones. I got the Hidden Palace theme more akin to Christopher Heral's BG&E soundtrack. And I'm goign for a more soundtrack-ish symphonica for Doomsday. I should have updates soon enough. So... p00t!

[Sappharad]

OK, EVERYONE PLEASE SHUT UP

The track that will be used is the track that Rayza and Sora are doing right now. Which is the Sonic 3 credits. NO the sonic and knuckles ending will NOT be included. There should be NO MORE disscusion about it.
I for one would like to thank you for making this decision. Since the S&K credits music is just a combination of S&K songs that are already being remixed, it is a very good idea to go out with something else. :-)
Thank you, and good luck on your project.

[Icy Guy]

Yes, I'm still alive.

However, my activity (or lack thereof) over the past two weeks may lead you guys to think otherwise. I have a perfectly reasonable explanation (read: not "I'm lazy") as to why I was absent: computer problems. My motherboard thought it would be amusing to die on me, so, short of using "school" computers (I only recently discovered that OCR and some other places I visit aren't blocked), I've been without a computer since April 5th. If all goes well, I should be back by next Saturday (the 23rd).

Just thought I'd pop in and let you guys (mainly sith; you have no idea how glad I am that I got my WIP off to him a day or two before my comp died) know that I'll be back in action soon. Hopefully. :)

[Murmeli Walan]

analoq...pending?!

I will be very sad if he doesn't contribute to the project.

[Upthorn]

I think he's been having computer problems or something.

[Rexy]

Whichever happens, I hope his contributions come around; if not, we may need to throw that to the PRC dogs, like he said :?

[analoq]

other than the fact it's a pc, my computer is fine.
i've just been busy with school, starting a new job, and my free time has been competing with doom3 (me play games? how rare!)

so my progress has been very slow.
but i should be able to pick up the pace on icecap soon enough.

i haven't recorded a single note yet, but i've been playing around with several ideas on my guitar and keyboards.
once i've got the ideas in place, the rest should come naturally.

cheers.

[UltimateSonicFan]

We get told to shut up about the discussion of the credits, yet all of you keep going on talking about how your opinion is better. Look, I still want you guys to work on the Sonic 3 credits, but can you please try the real credits? I can garuntee that some of the hardcore fans that like these remixes will be sorely disappointed. Do you guys care? Probably not. I'm just saying if you are doing this for a little posterity, just take a wack at the S3&K ending (I'm sure KFC will allow that).


BTW: Listen to it instead of assume what the ending is. There are some cool original parts within it.

[Rexy]

I know there are some cool original parts, but at the end of the day it's still a medley. I feel we should still stick with KFC's decisions and take that into account. :whatevaa:

[Kanjika]

lol you guys are arguing alot

Well, im just letting you guys know that i'll definitley be updating Sky Sanctuary and the Credits theme (and they'll sound ALOT better). I may not do anything for icecap though....we;ll see. I've bought a new HDD for all my sample libraries and i have to re load just about all the samples into these songs, and i've been busy re-arranging stuff.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

USF, The decesion stands.

[RoeTaKa]

Whichever happens, I hope his contributions come around; if not, we may need to throw that to the PRC dogs, like he said :?

Don't know if I said it before but, screw you lot to try and throw a song in PRC direction, it's a good competition dont take fucking advantage of it.

[Mr. Fox]

Whichever happens, I hope his contributions come around; if not, we may need to throw that to the PRC dogs, like he said :?

Don't know if I said it before but, screw you lot to try and throw a song in PRC direction, it's a good competition dont take fucking advantage of it.

You should calm down.
We not taking advantage of it, we are just suggesting a song for the competition (actually a very GOOD song) and an oportunity for the winner of this good competition to put the song in the project. I don't see anything wrong with it...

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Now now Roetaka, I'm sure Rexy meant "Dogs" in a good way. Right?

[RoeTaKa]

Whichever happens, I hope his contributions come around; if not, we may need to throw that to the PRC dogs, like he said :?

Don't know if I said it before but, screw you lot to try and throw a song in PRC direction, it's a good competition dont take fucking advantage of it.

You should calm down.
We not taking advantage of it, we are just suggesting a song for the competition (actually a very GOOD song) and an oportunity for the winner of this good competition to put the song in the project. I don't see anything wrong with it...

For one it'd most likely have been mixed on OC anyways, then there is no suprise in the competition but to find "This week our royal asses have been hijacked by the S3+K project to do a song for them, looks like this week you won't be having any fun then, your work is already claimed" its dumb.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

You know, I'll probably get slapped for asking this...

Is there any chance that we can post links to the remixs in the first post? I'll even go hunt down all the links. :wink:

[-RK-]

Whichever happens, I hope his contributions come around; if not, we may need to throw that to the PRC dogs, like he said :?

Don't know if I said it before but, screw you lot to try and throw a song in PRC direction, it's a good competition dont take fucking advantage of it.

You should calm down.
We not taking advantage of it, we are just suggesting a song for the competition (actually a very GOOD song) and an oportunity for the winner of this good competition to put the song in the project. I don't see anything wrong with it...

For one it'd most likely have been mixed on OC anyways, then there is no suprise in the competition but to find "This week our royal asses have been hijacked by the S3+K project to do a song for them, looks like this week you won't be having any fun then, your work is already claimed" its dumb.

I agree with Alex. I participate in just about every PRC for the fun and community of it, but if the other two projects who tried that have seen, each time they tried it, they only got about 3 songs, and with limited quality. Every other week we get about an average of 6 to 9. PRC isnt there to make songs for projects who cant recruit remixers for itself. Personally, I have no fun those weeks, and I dont think many people would even participate.

For some of use Regulars to PRC, we look forward to each week having another song to practice our skill in, and have fun, not to have pressure of making a song for a project.

[Hadyn]

Alright, whatever.

This argument is pointless - KFC never said anything about PRC. You can worry about that when it happens, if it happens, which is pretty unlikely.

The end.

[The Joker]

Wow... there's a lot of crying over milk not yet spilled. Anyway, here's a demo of my mix. To be more specific, it's the b side of my mix. Which is still unfinished. Oh yeah, it's Hidden Palace.

http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/S3&K%20RP%20-%20Beyond%20The%20Horizon.mp3

[RoeTaKa]

You lot should stop being so smug, you're not that great.

[Upthorn]

Roetaka: I have no idea what that was even in response to. It seems a little out of nowhere...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

RoeTaka...? What the fuck is wrong with you all of a sudden? I never said that PRC thing would happen. So what you are saying really means nothing.

[Dryer Lint]

You know, I'll probably get slapped for asking this...

Is there any chance that we can post links to the remixs in the first post? I'll even go hunt down all the links. :wink:

This somehow got lost in the current debate, but I'll second it.

Links please!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I don't want to make links avalible like that. I want the remixes to be low profile.

[SnappleMan]

It may seem like I'm being an asshole when it comes to this project, but I have seriously not heard anything remotely good in this thread :(

I hope the work that's being kept secret is mindblowing stuff.. cuz if not...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It may seem like I'm being an asshole when it comes to this project, but I have seriously not heard anything remotely good in this thread :(

I hope the work that's being kept secret is mindblowing stuff.. cuz if not...

Oh be quiet. Then again, everyone has there opinion. And you are a negative person anyway. You can say all you want to me about what I just said. Consider it ignored.

[SnappleMan]

It may seem like I'm being an asshole when it comes to this project, but I have seriously not heard anything remotely good in this thread :(

I hope the work that's being kept secret is mindblowing stuff.. cuz if not...

Oh be quiet. Then again, everyone has there opinion. And you are a negative person anyway. You can say all you want to me about what I just said. Consider it ignored.

Hah, that's good. Practice your ignoring skills. You'll need to ignore A LOT of people when you release this ball of turd.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It may seem like I'm being an asshole when it comes to this project, but I have seriously not heard anything remotely good in this thread :(

I hope the work that's being kept secret is mindblowing stuff.. cuz if not...

Oh be quiet. Then again, everyone has there opinion. And you are a negative person anyway. You can say all you want to me about what I just said. Consider it ignored.

Hah, that's good. Practice your ignoring skills. You'll need to ignore A LOT of people when you release this ball of turd.

INCREDBLE that you try to fucking review an album that isn't even finished. That's stupid and ignorant. I expected more from you.

[SnappleMan]

It may seem like I'm being an asshole when it comes to this project, but I have seriously not heard anything remotely good in this thread :(

I hope the work that's being kept secret is mindblowing stuff.. cuz if not...

Oh be quiet. Then again, everyone has there opinion. And you are a negative person anyway. You can say all you want to me about what I just said. Consider it ignored.

Hah, that's good. Practice your ignoring skills. You'll need to ignore A LOT of people when you release this ball of turd.

INCREDBLE that you try to fucking review an album that isn't even finished. That's stupid and ignorant. I expected more from you.

Review? You misunderstand me, friend. I'm merely pointing out that:

1) The terrible management (you) has no idea of how to run a successful project (this should have already been done and forgotten by now).

2) Unless the demos that are already in this thread get deleted and erased from my memory, finishing them up wont make a bit of difference as to how they will sound. The entire album will most likely be a boring ass techno-"PHAT BEETZ"-soundtrack, minus a couple of tracks from the two talented people you got on there. It'll all sound like one continuous (and bad) song.

From what I've read in this thread, this project is nothing more than a support group for bad "ReMixerZ".

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Already been done? Are you kidding me? You have no idea what you are talking about.

[SnappleMan]

Already been done? Are you kidding me? You have no idea what you are talking about.

You argue like a 13 year old at GameFaqs. By already done, I mean the demos posted. I don't mean completed songs.

I'm just upset to see yet another terrible Sonic project. It's doomed to fail miserably, you know this. Why you still continue to work on this crapfest is beyond me. Your turnout is terribly low, you have no way to motivate your team, and the work they've already done is crap. How can you ignore this?

It makes me angry when I see stupid asses trying to copy the success of Kong in Concert. The only way you'll get this project to be successful, is to get rid of 90% of your team and try to recruit the best people OCR has to offer.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Blah blah blah. Say what you want. It hurts to know when you are ignorant huh?

You can continue to be stupid if you want too. Just stop thinking that your opinions are law. You will hurt your own brain.

[RoeTaKa]

The doom project back in september started off pretty shit, with not much going to it. Now its near completion with some amazing songs and that's all I'm allowed to say. It's only been like a few weeks you can't judge how anything is going to turn out till it's all wrapped up.

Alot of songs are floating around at the moment in a sort of vote, so nothings confident. To be honest it's not very encouraging to see about half of the songs on the wip thread, kinda shows a lack of confidence. But that's how the doom project started off aswell (lol the amount of doom songs in the thread was pretty funny). I wasn't fond of The sonic 2 project, too much electronica and boring arrangements for my liking. I'm sure that can be avoided again.

At the moment, I wouldn't say spectacular things could happen to this project for a few good months when people start shaping up and practising with their music. Seriously you guys keep practising it gets better. I can't say much myself for I don't like remixing that much for I can't find enough arrangement creativity or inspiration from them but it could happen soon. I could join the project in the next few months if people drop and if I am all settled in my personal life.

So yeah, Snapple, shut your mouth it's that simple. Although you might be encouraging some of the mixers out there to shape up a bit, I can still label you "dickhead" since Sith is a good friend.

Note to "n00b" mixers, if you're fresh to music and mixing, take a stance to work hard on music and whether you could be in a project yet or not. You could work months on a song but like in classic RPG's, you can only build up one weapon to a certain level, start getting better weapons to build up to greater levels.

[Mr. Fox]

The only way you'll get this project to be successful, is to get rid of 90% of your team and try to recruit the best people OCR has to offer.

The word "respect" comes to mind...
I mean, it's ok for you to think we all suck, and this is never going to be sucessful because we don't have Vigilante, GrayLighting or... erm... you, around. It's ok for you to think there's no tallented people here. It's ok for you to think we are going straight down. And it is even ok for you to think KFC is doing a poor job...

I am not discussing your point of view (which I think it's completely wrong and pretentious), what incredibly fascinates me is the lack of politness you showed. And you say that KFC behaves like he's 13.

Look, you have no reason or right to come in this thread and start to say the things you said, it's not only pointless, but quite rude and, shall I say, stupid. If you think we are going down, fine. I think you should seat on the sofa with a nice sofisticated drink and watch it premiere.
But let me tell you, you might get a little suprised/dissapointed with the end of the story...

And other thing: stop thinking you are a very big of a deal. I respect you as a great Remixer, but you just showed some good amount of immaturity.

[SnappleMan]

HAH! You think I need a reason, you are mistaken.

Until this thread gets moved to the projects forum, it can't be taken seriously.

[SnappleMan]

If you people actually want a SERIOUS respone from me, I'll give you one.

The main reason I'm such a prick to this project, is because most of the people on it don't seem to be giving it as much effort as they should.

Until the artists themselves want to do their very best and make the project shine, it'll be doomed to fail.

[RoeTaKa]

If you people actually want a SERIOUS respone from me, I'll give you one.

The main reason I'm such a prick to this project, is because most of the people on it don't seem to be giving it as much effort as they should.

Until the artists themselves want to do their very best and make the project shine, it'll be doomed to fail.

Honestly I can't help but agree.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

If you people actually want a SERIOUS respone from me, I'll give you one.

The main reason I'm such a prick to this project, is because most of the people on it don't seem to be giving it as much effort as they should.

Until the artists themselves want to do their very best and make the project shine, it'll be doomed to fail.

Agreed.

[Ichitootah]

I know that being called a bad remixer and calling the group of WIPs that my song is a part of a ball of turd has motivated me to create music to the best of my effort.

The only thing that could make my creative drive stronger is if I was insulted exclusively and personally!


Actually I was kidding it lowered my self esteem keep snapplman out of our support group


:(

[Hadyn]

If you people actually want a SERIOUS respone from me, I'll give you one.

The main reason I'm such a prick to this project, is because most of the people on it don't seem to be giving it as much effort as they should.

Until the artists themselves want to do their very best and make the project shine, it'll be doomed to fail.

That's GOLD, Snappleman.

You want us to make a good project, so in order to help you decide to arse about and insult the hell out of us as much as possible.

Yeah, that's really going to have us all inspired...

I'm with Ichi here. Leave until you find something productive to say.

[Xenon Odyssey]

TEH INTARWEB IZ SERIOUS BUSYNESS

I feel safe because the only person who has heard my song is KFC. Unless people are crafty and found out where I have it hosted...
But that's unlikely.

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[Ichitootah]

TEH INTARWEB IZ SERIOUS BUSYNESS



You're right, it isn't, but I take my music seriously.

[Eon_Blue]

If you people actually want a SERIOUS respone from me, I'll give you one.

The main reason I'm such a prick to this project, is because most of the people on it don't seem to be giving it as much effort as they should.

Until the artists themselves want to do their very best and make the project shine, it'll be doomed to fail.

Agreed.

And the person supposed to motivate these people and ensure things get done is the project coordinator - who's done pretty much nothing but spew childish retorts at anyone who doesn't think this project is the greatest thing since indoor plumbing.

I've already seen examples of his incompetence first hand, which were conveniently erased - I'm sure several people would have a similar opinion of this project had they read the conversations between sithlord and I. I have absolutely no faith in this project, and should it fail, I certainly hope someone grabs the reins and steers this thing in the right direction. It's much too good a soundtrack to be bastardized by a half assed remix project.

But I digress. This post will likely be erased anyway. I've got a nasty habit of speaking truths no one wants to hear.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I love you to. You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, so I suggest not to judge stuff by it's cover. And the purpose of the second deadline was to make sure that quality comes in, where as the first deadline was to see who is ACTUALLY in this. Don't think I have been just sitting here is what I'm trying to say. So calm down, sit back, and wait to see what happens.

[Eon_Blue]

I love you to. You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, so I suggest not to judge stuff by it's cover. And the purpose of the second deadline was to make sure that quality comes in, where as the first deadline was to see who is ACTUALLY in this. Don't think I have been just sitting here is what I'm trying to say. So calm down, sit back, and wait to see what happens.

This is hardly judging a book by it's cover. Your attitude blows, and it's absolutely essential to the success of this project.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Yeah, ok Eon. You are right.

[Vilecat]

Ok guys, lower those flame-throwers. Instead of spending energy at "bashing" on each other like that, why not use it to improve the project quality, or the lack of it, whichever you think is the current situation. I don't wanna know the answer to that for each person, because it's not what will make the project advance.

Constructive criticism will be, by far, most welcome compared to procrastination on one's opinion.

Back to the project : KFC, got any news from Beatdrop yet? I saw your post in the Rise of the Star thread, and you got me worried =x

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I talked to him today. He is fine, and getting back on track and what not methinks.

[Vilecat]

I talked to him today. He is fine, and getting back on track and what not methinks.
Ok, phew. That's good to hear :D

[Ichitootah]

Constructive criticism will be, by far, the most welcome thing EVAR Quote slightly modified


Yes! Post in the forum we have! Constructive criticism in the WIP section there has been pretty scarce so far.

Utilize your energies more effectively!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Updated first post with Quality Control section 8)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Getting around to everything may take about another day or so.

[Rexy]

I still think Snapple has a light point about the amount of quality here. :? Then again, most of the mixes here are involved in fighting over one song (Hydrocity, Sky Sanctuary) so that shouldn't be taken a bit too personally.

What I was hoping for him to do was to provide some constructive criticism for what we as remixers *should* be doing to our works. That way we can learn from our experience and be sure to develop our own works securely.

Putting it this way I think the turnout is much more professional than the Sonic 2 project. Back then the only pro-artists that managed to show themselves were analoq, FFMusicDj and Sir Nuts. Now in this project we've got further assistance from Beatdrop, DarkeSword, AkumajoBelmont, Rayza, Gecko Yamori, etc. That could have easily helped increase the general quality factor here.

But if we're going to have to keep going, we'll need to show as much criticism as we can; even upon much of the stellar works already contributed.

(And for the record, I don't do techno because I suck at it :P)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Me and Snapple talked, and he made some nice points that I will consider exercising. Yeah, we do have some people that should bring some high quality stuff to the table. I think with a little more pressure, we can get this project rolling, and the quality will increase.

[Rexy]

equinox, yeah it may feel rough, but do you think you could give us a few pointers on how to go about some of the projects? ;)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

equinox, yeah it may feel rough, but do you think you could give us a few pointers on how to go about some of the projects? ;)

here we go :|

[Xelebes]

Equinox, please don't taunt the remixers. While you may be getting a few laughs, you'll end up creating a mess on the forums that the moderators have to clean up. The moderators had to do this when Eccles went on his little tirade in the WIP forums a year ago.

[The Joker]

Wow... just wow. I can't believe how far this whole thread degraded. And all due to a few guys thinking that negative reinforcement is actually productive. If you don't like a song(s), then quit whining & offer some advice on how to fix it. Not this totally Elite sounding jibberish,i.e, "I think you smell bad & you mix does too, like a big pile of...." You know what I'm saying.

I remember the Doom project fell through after the guy in charge of it dropped out. Myth took over & heck, it's become something that will rival, if not surpass KiC. So, get off your hi horses, & too the people invloved in actually mixing the project, take whats good in the negative posts, move on, & stop giving oxygen to the fires. The End.

[Rexy]

Wow... just wow. I can't believe how far this whole thread degraded. And all due to a few guys thinking that negative reinforcement is actually productive. If you don't like a song(s), then quit whining & offer some advice on how to fix it. Not this totally Elite sounding jibberish,i.e, "I think you smell bad & you mix does too, like a big pile of...." You know what I'm saying.

I remember the Doom project fell through after the guy in charge of it dropped out. Myth took over & heck, it's become something that will rival, if not surpass KiC. So, get off your hi horses, & too the people invloved in actually mixing the project, take whats good in the negative posts, move on, & stop giving oxygen to the fires. The End.
That's exactly what we're gesturing at - looking at ways to improve our own works. :)

Although, it can be a bit difficult to me because I didn't receive much criticism on my latest revision...

[Sir_NutS]

I MAEK TEH BOOM SHCIK LAOLq11!!!!

[Hadyn]

This thread is pathetic. It should be locked, for the benefit of society.

I like the "gay+1" in you sig, and I agree with it. Every time you post, OCR does get a little gayer.

Go away now.

Rexy: can you link me to your WIP, i'll give it a listen :)

[Rexy]

Sure, but remember to right-click and "save target as" (http://www.angelfire.com/music6/moulinrex/divided-grace3.mp3) :P

Quickly mentioning what I intended again - the first half reflects upon the scenery of the first act, as peaceful as ever and with blue skies flapping around it. This half then ended with a climatic proportion as signalled by the zone's mid boss - you know, that machine that ends up putting the whole island in flames.
The second half then shows a good amount of grief over the island's fate. No longer is it full of peace - it will take a long time just to recover from its own tormented state. Angrily, the player (controlling Sonic, Tails or Knuckles) makes their dash through the second act, gradually regaining their feelings while going around the many pitfalls that eventually lead to the zone boss as well as the Hydrocity Zone upon kicking the crap outta Eggman.

I managed to take in the account of lowering the drum volume ever so slightly and adding some reverb onto the muted trumpet. And I also thought carefully about how to reflect on anger at the end of the first half and the return of the core instrumentation within the second half; things that came to mind here were angry distortion (which have been applied upon some synth VSTs floating around the college campus), a steadier drum beat and a lot of timpani action.

Mind, time is getting rather short at my end, and with exams coming I may even struggle to mix these days. :( But heck, be sure to drop a line or two.

[Hadyn]

Well, I love it :D

Though it's quite quiet - I think you need to up the volume a bit, and work on bringing out some more of the high frequencies - particularly on the hats, and maybe some more mid on the snares.

But yeah, you have some really nice sounding stuff going on... I absolutely love the whole first half... It gets a little too crazy for my liking at 2:17, but after that short section, everything's great :)

As for the section at 2:17...

Personally, I think you need to completely rewrite what you've got there. The vibe I got from that part of the stage was like a feeling of despair and helplessness as you can't stop the impending doom - a rain of fire.

Make it sound thrilling and suspenseful... Maybe drop the drums, or bring in something bigger - timpanis and an orchestral kit, perhaps... though i'm not sure how it'd fit with the rest...

Another option is to just get rid of that sectin alltogether, and have it go straight to the section at 2:30. I think that'd work well too :)

Either way, you've got some great sounding stuff here, looking forward to seeing the next update for sure :D

[Upthorn]

That's exactly what we're gesturing at - looking at ways to improve our own works. :)

Although, it can be a bit difficult to me because I didn't receive much criticism on my latest revision...

I kept meaning to.
What I said the first time, about the middle transition (2:13) sounding like a cartoon chase montage still holds true.
I'd recommend changing the instrument on the pattern with the has double stabs, and chase-type melody.

Let me know if you can't tell what I'm talking about, from my description.

Apart from that, the bit at the end where it speeds back up is a bit sudden, and that portion (3:36-4:32) lasts too long. I'd suggest basically going straight from 3:44 to 4:11. I want to use the verb "splice" to describe what I'd like to hear happen.

Once again, I apologize if I'm sounding overly bossy: to me, "constructive criticism" means having a solution in mind.

[The Joker]

Well Rexy, it's sounding better, & I like the structure alot in the revision. It's a shame to hear you'll have less time to tweak this mix, at least until summer that is. But the things in my opinion that need to be strengthened are the latter parts of the song. The darker tone needs to be a little more... moody & somber.

Side b of your mix, 3:36 or so, needs more... ominous flava. Maybe get rid of the backing notes, the rapid fire melody that accompanies the lead. Maybe slow down that part, just that part while leaving the overall tempo of the song intact, & maybe even switching thsat instrument with a delayed dark piano would do the trick. Changing the happy sounding drum beat would also help this sections intended mood. I guess what I'm trying to say, is if your gonna make the last section sad & moody, take it hardcore sad & moody. Oh, & I completely agree with haydn about 2:11-2:27-ish. It messes with the flow.

And, while I'm at it, how do you guys (& gals)like the newer direction I'm taking Hidden Palace?

[Eon_Blue]

I remember the Doom project fell through after the guy in charge of it dropped out. Myth took over & heck, it's become something that will rival, if not surpass KiC. So, get off your hi horses, & too the people invloved in actually mixing the project, take whats good in the negative posts, move on, & stop giving oxygen to the fires. The End.

I can't believe you used that example as SUPPORT for this project - that bit of information is MUCH more relevant than you think.

Not once have I shown concern with the quality of the mixers. I've heard a few wips, but that's only somewhat indicitave of what the final product. I can't pass judgement on something I don't know enough about. Sithlord's crappy attitude (which I've seen plenty of), however, does nothing but hinder this project.

[The Joker]

I'm glad you caught that little thing I mentioned. I actually meant it that way. If this project starts to fall apart & Sith can't handle it, I'll be one of the first people trying to keep it alive. I'm sure a whole butt load will as well. But for the time being, Sith is the director, & until otherwise, we just have to bare with him. It's a big load to lead a project.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Big Load? You have no idea. And I think that Eon doesn't really get that/

[Xenon Odyssey]

Wow. Such hatred and disgust. You know, may be if we actually posted either WIPs, some feedback to the songs, or something to progress/improve the projet that isn't negative, the thread won't be locked for flaming and insults.

With that said, progress on my WIP is slowly but surely.



...you know what, I doubt anybody is going to read this, or even bother taking the advice. Post Count +1.

"Why Can't We Be Friends? Why Can't We Be Friends..."

[Eon_Blue]

Big Load? You have no idea. And I think that Eon doesn't really get that/

I fail to see where you could know anything about 'leading' a project.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Big Load? You have no idea. And I think that Eon doesn't really get that/

I fail to see where you could know anything about 'leading' a project.

Well it IS 60+ pages in, and everybody has gotten started, and there are multiple people on each track, and some pretty frequent remixers are showing lots of interest. That's not good leadership?

[Eon_Blue]

Big Load? You have no idea. And I think that Eon doesn't really get that/

I fail to see where you could know anything about 'leading' a project.

Well it IS 60+ pages in, and everybody has gotten started, and there are multiple people on each track, and some pretty frequent remixers are showing lots of interest. That's not good leadership?

80% of the posts are entirely irrelevant to the album, this one included.

People have started because of their own interest - sithlord had nothing to do with that. Essentially, the only right thing Sithlord HAS done is gather attention to the project. It's the wrong kind of attention.

His reactions to anyone who doubts the success of this project are laughable. Fortunately for him, much of his comments - including the ones made directly to me - have been erased.

Yeah, he apologized, said he was out of line, etc, then tried to make things right (I ended up sigging it, it was too much comedy gold to let go), but I had decided then that should this project end up finished, it'll be an absolute stroke of luck (or not, we'll have to hear the remixes to determine that) that it did.

That's enough bashing him for me though, I'll just let this all go, and we can see where it ends up. Good luck, all.

[DCT]

When you people get your shit together, please let me know. Until then, good luck with your project.

-DCT

[hobo]

I agree. Pull yourselves together and make this project happen. Or I will be sending ninja monkeys.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Eon, only 3 people have complained to me so far out of who knows how many. Everyone on the project is cool. You are one of the only people beefing. And you aren't on the project. Just wait and see what happens. I just can't sit and let someone bad mouth the project that isn't finished yet. I hope you can understand that. Also, I have said some things that may have made me out as a jerk. But this is the internet, some of the stuff may not be as serious as you think. Everyone who talks to me and knows me knows I don't have an attitue problem.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Thanks for the good luck. Just don't think I'm not doing anything. Don't think that every single detail of the project is taking place in this thread. Cause you'd be VERY VERY VERY wrong.

[hobo]

Argh, this project better not die, the WIPs are sounding better than the other projects already (to me anyway).

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

That other forum isn't what I'm talking about.

Look, fuck all the bullshit, it's time to get to work.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Instant messaging has been the driving force of this project.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Also, I have to say one thing. I have no intention of seeing this project go down. I am going to see this to the end, and the commitment I show to this project will be plentiful. I putting my all into making this project rise to the top. So let me assure that to all you nano talkers who seem content on breaking me down.

[Rexy]

Well yeah, it's by here that I'm starting to feel some light concern. o_O I often thought that I should at least have a stab at getting onto a project made accessible right across OCRemix. Now given the light bashing on either side, I'm now concerned on whether this is going to happen or not. It's almost arguments like these that are making me concerned of dropping out.

But yeah, we need thought and support to be able to get through this. I know that we can do it because we managed to sign up for the project in the first place.

Even if KFC does end up dropping out from the strain, I'm sure that much of us will be able to help push the project further forward. *cue brief nod*

Anyhow... thanks for your commentations on the mix. Can't really seem to go into your critiques in depth at this stage having just come back from a long 12-hour musical rehersal (you hear me, I'm going to be involved in a musical comedy on Thursday night), but I hope to be able to take them to heart and apply them within the stages of the mix. Thanks all!

It's a shame to hear you'll have less time to tweak this mix, at least until summer that is.

Unfortunately, from the end of May onwards I'd be at home - I won't be able to access Cubase over the Summer break. :( That shows how strainful for time I am. But I do hope to clear a (hopefully) finalized version by at least the middle of next month.

We'll be sure to advance on, believe me ;)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Rexy, I can't even get in touch with you out side of the forums. And KFC isn't dropping out of anything. I put the quality section in the front to give people an idea about what could be worked on. I will also take the time to keep heavy contact with all the mixers to insure they create the worst they are capable of.

[GrayLightning]

As entertaining the last pages of tit for tat are, the points have been made then. There's very little, if anything to be gained at this point. Kungfu has just expressed the dedication. Whether or not the project will be successful or not remains to be seen, but ultimately it's up to him/mixers involved in this.

There are other methods of reaching Kungfu on this topic, this manner is only proving distracting to him and this thread. A healthy exchange of ideas is certainly important, especially at this stage, but going in circles in this negative way is just pointless. Let's move on, shall we?

[Rexy]

Rexy, I can't even get in touch with you out side of the forums.
There's always my email - bev.wooff@gmail.com ;)

And yeah, I'm sure we can be able to move on in piece. Gray has managed to raise a valid statement with his contribution on hold - if we keep arguing in this manner, this project will end up going nowhere o_O

[AMT]

Rexy, the link to your WIP is dead. Angelfire problems?

[Rexy]

Oh funk... :? Who thinks I should put it up at VGMix as a WIP? (although that in itself may have to wait until Friday because I put forward a Jak and Daxter WIP a couple of days ago) Or at least point me in the direction of other suitable file space?

[AMT]

I can host it. Talk to me on AIM, Pogo708

[Rexy]

I don't have AIM (in fact, that buggered thing hates me X.x); I could email it to you if your mailbox is big enough for a 5MB+ file.

[AMT]

Sure, Pogo708@cableone.net

[analoq]

my experience with the management on this project hasn't really been much different from say...
my experiences on kong, sonic2, doom, kirby, or even smetroid.

i only speak for myself... but i can't say he's been doing anything 'wrong' or 'terrible' from my perspective.
though if you're so vehement that you want to try and convince me otherwise, contact me on aim and not pollute this thread. thanks.
cheers.

[AMT]

Alright Rexy, got it up.

http://myweb.cableone.net/rebelart/divided-grace3.mp3

Not much better of a host, but it shouldn't go down.
Nice sounding song, I like it, although I agree with the others about the part at 2:17; it's really out of place. Great work, can't wait to hear more!

[Rexy]

Well I know for a fact that I'd be re-writing that area from scratch, as well as taking out the strange sweep-accordion part beforehand. I hope to provide a gradual and more dimented panicked segment to be able to replace it (think those orchestrated builds in "A Day in the Life" by the Beatles), although given work deadlines and a few other future provisions I may struggle to do much mixing before going home for the Summer.

Thanks very much for the commentation, and the alternative hosting. :nicework:

[AMT]

That's a creepy Emoticon.
O_o

[Metal Man88]

Ah yes. I have been watching this project for a while, and I really hope to see what it's like when it's finished. However, there is one thing I'm curious about. You see, I have to page through the topic manually to find the links to the WIPs, and that can be inconvenient. You don't have to listen to my idea or even give me a response, but I was thinking, if it is possible, you could try to link to the WIPs in the first post? (Even if the links may or may not get outdated rather quickly; and one may even have to ask the remixer's permission first)

[Xelebes]

Ah yes. I have been watching this project for a while, and I really hope to see what it's like when it's finished. However, there is one thing I'm curious about. You see, I have to page through the topic manually to find the links to the WIPs, and that can be inconvenient. You don't have to listen to my idea or even give me a response, but I was thinking, if it is possible, you could try to link to the WIPs in the first post? (Even if the links may or may not get outdated rather quickly; and one may even have to ask the remixer's permission first)

This sounds like a very good idea. I might suggest you do it sithlord.

[AMT]

I'm pretty sure he already said he wouldn't already...

[Xenon Odyssey]

You know, I'll probably get slapped for asking this...

Is there any chance that we can post links to the remixs in the first post? I'll even go hunt down all the links. :wink:

I don't want to make links avalible like that. I want the remixes to be low profile.

:whatevaa:

[Terial]

This bashing of this project is getting fucking ridiculous :evil:. It's not doing anything but aggravating people and wasting pages. If you're going to bitch at KFC, do it in PM or instant messenges. If you want to motivate the mixers, motivate them by encouraging them to do their best or give constructive critism, dont shit in the topic. I doubt anyone will give this more than a glance after looking at my post count, but I hope someone will. I may not be mixing or really doing much of anything, but i am commenting on a few mixes that I feel like I should, and I consider that helping a bit. To those flaming, you're NOT helping this project.

[Nineko]

This bashing of this project is getting fucking ridiculous :evil:. It's not doing anything but aggravating people and wasting pages. If you're going to bitch at KFC, do it in PM or instant messenges. If you want to motivate the mixers, motivate them by encouraging them to do their best or give constructive critism, dont shit in the topic. I doubt anyone will give this more than a glance after looking at my post count, but I hope someone will. I may not be mixing or really doing much of anything, but i am commenting on a few mixes that I feel like I should, and I consider that helping a bit. To those flaming, you're NOT helping this project.postcount doesn't really matter, but I quoted this for you if this can make you glad. holy words.
I love S3&K soundtrack and I want this project to grew up, even if I don't like KFC at all.

[Terial]

This bashing of this project is getting fucking ridiculous :evil:. It's not doing anything but aggravating people and wasting pages. If you're going to bitch at KFC, do it in PM or instant messenges. If you want to motivate the mixers, motivate them by encouraging them to do their best or give constructive critism, dont shit in the topic. I doubt anyone will give this more than a glance after looking at my post count, but I hope someone will. I may not be mixing or really doing much of anything, but i am commenting on a few mixes that I feel like I should, and I consider that helping a bit. To those flaming, you're NOT helping this project.postcount doesn't really matter, but I quoted this for you if this can make you glad. holy words.
I love S3&K soundtrack and I want this project to grew up, even if I don't like KFC at all.

thanks for the quoting :lol: . I made this account because of this project, it's gotten me more involved in OCR. And S3&K is probably my absolute favorite game and I adore every part of it. So I really hope no one doubts my seriousness towards this project.

[irriadin]

I don't want to make links avalible like that. I want the remixes to be low profile.

:whatevaa:

I'd really like to know where that quote comes from. That's pretty inexplicable, not wanting people to listen to how the project is progressing. If you are going to make your project public, then you can't expect to keep remixes "low profile" by making people wade through 60+ pages to find them.

Again, if you are going to run a public project, you can't expect to hide WIP's. And I still do not understand why you would even want to do that in the first place...

[Hadyn]

my experience with the management on this project hasn't really been much different from say...
my experiences on kong, sonic2, doom, kirby, or even smetroid.

i only speak for myself... but i can't say he's been doing anything 'wrong' or 'terrible' from my perspective.
though if you're so vehement that you want to try and convince me otherwise, contact me on aim and not pollute this thread. thanks.
cheers.

Ah, I was waiting for someone to say something like that. Although I wasn't involved in the other projects, I did follow them quite strongly, and it really seems that, if anything, KFC is trying to be more involved than other project leaders.

No one bitched this hard about, say Darkeswords Kirby project, and he only posted in it about once a month at times. The point is, we all knew he was working on it in the background... So why not trust KFC about the same thing?

I guess people doubt KFC's ability simply because he's not a well-known mixer or a judge... which is dumb.

Everything's okay right now. If it gets bad, we'll worry about it then.

[SnappleMan]

Hah, people who weren't involved with KiC don't know shit about how it went down. Binnie was a hardass when he needed to be, and for the most part, alot of the quality tracks were the first ones to be completed. This forced the rest of the team to work their asses off to try and compete with the quality of the more experianced arrangers.

Not only that, but the people who finished hassled the people who weren't done. And Binnie's involvement went much deeper than most of you think.

[Vilecat]

Once again, could the whole discussion about whether or not the project is doing good, and if yes or not KFC is doing enough for his project to give results, be put aside? Geez guys...

Gimme WIPs to comment on, not a silly debate of opinions like this one >:0

Rexy, the small changes you did to your remix make it sound better. And the only points i'd comment on have already been mentioned before, and in a better way that i'd have been able to tell. I hope you'll be able to work as much on your remix as you've planned to.

[AkumajoBelmont]

I got an update on my Hydro city WIP...

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3874

Added some rough vocoder vocals in to the mix...

I'm still working on the last half of the song, so nothing new on that front...

Otherwise, there's more percussion, more instruments, more bass and better mixing.

Read up on all the changes i've done in the WIP section.

Hope u's like it so far:)

Robbie

[Ichitootah]

WIP #3-

Helium Stairways (http://www.ichitootah.com/_private/Helium%20Stairways%20(WIP).mp3)

Comments/feedback appreciated as always.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I don't want to make links avalible like that. I want the remixes to be low profile.

:whatevaa:

I'd really like to know where that quote comes from. That's pretty inexplicable, not wanting people to listen to how the project is progressing. If you are going to make your project public, then you can't expect to keep remixes "low profile" by making people wade through 60+ pages to find them.

Again, if you are going to run a public project, you can't expect to hide WIP's. And I still do not understand why you would even want to do that in the first place...

In other words, like Darke's project, I'm not just going to make a WIP list.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

No wait, actually... I will do that. Expect WIP links soon. It would help if all the remixers involved post their WIP links again. Not including analoq, since he wants to directly send me his remix. (If I'm not mistaken)

But once the song is done, the link will be taken down. I am thinking of having people who think their songs are done send the link directly to me for it to be approved.

[Hadyn]

Hah, people who weren't involved with KiC don't know shit about how it went down.

And people who aren't involved in this project - ie. you - probably don't know shit about it either. Stop being an ass.

Ichi - What did you change from the last version? I can't put my finger on it specifically, and I don't have the old mp3 handy, but there was something about it I think I prefered in the older one ^^;

[GaMeBoX]

My links:

Icecap:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3897

Lavareef:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3741

Mushroom hill:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3683

[Sir_NutS]

I agree in that the WIPs must be kept down until the final version. First, offering a crapload of WIPs with pretty much almost no difference between each version will onl pollute the thread. Second, whats the fun of making a project if everybody grabbed the songs before it was finished? this happened with a lot of the tracks for the S2 project. And its the reason I'm not giving away WIPs.
People know what to expect from people like Darkesword, Gecko Yamori, analoq or even me, they don't need WIPs to know if the project will be good or bad.

[Upthorn]

I'm sitting somewhere in the middle on this.

It would be nice if there were a place with all the WIP links.
But it would be nice if it were in a place where only people on the project could access it.

[irriadin]

I agree in that the WIPs must be kept down until the final version. First, offering a crapload of WIPs with pretty much almost no difference between each version will onl pollute the thread. Second, whats the fun of making a project if everybody grabbed the songs before it was finished? this happened with a lot of the tracks for the S2 project. And its the reason I'm not giving away WIPs.
People know what to expect from people like Darkesword, Gecko Yamori, analoq or even me, they don't need WIPs to know if the project will be good or bad.

WIPS aren't finished songs, though. Grabbing them means nothing, as the final product might be completely different. Also, WIP's allow people to comment, offer suggestions, etc. While I can understand wanting to hide finished songs, hiding WIP's doesn't make much sense.

[Vilecat]

I'm sitting somewhere in the middle on this.

It would be nice if there were a place with all the WIP links.
But it would be nice if it were in a place where only people on the project could access it.
Didn't someone make a forum for the project somewhere else? It could be there =P

If some people want to hear THAT bad what the remixes sound like, just browse around. A few clicks never killed anyone from what i know.

btw i gave some comments about the few last WIPs that have been posted here (just in case somone would accuse me of only procrastinating too), except Helium Stairways... I just don't know what to say about it ^^;;;

[analoq]

WIPS aren't finished songs, though. Grabbing them means nothing, as the final product might be completely different. Also, WIP's allow people to comment, offer suggestions, etc. While I can understand wanting to hide finished songs, hiding WIP's doesn't make much sense.
are you deliberately trying to not understand this?
no one said anything about 'hiding' wips except for you.
there's nothing stopping anyone from getting the wips or commenting on them.
"low profile" just means he doesn't (or at least didn't) want to advertise them by keeping an updated list on the front page.

not really any different from most other projects.

[irriadin]

WIPS aren't finished songs, though. Grabbing them means nothing, as the final product might be completely different. Also, WIP's allow people to comment, offer suggestions, etc. While I can understand wanting to hide finished songs, hiding WIP's doesn't make much sense.
are you deliberately trying to not understand this?
no one said anything about 'hiding' wips except for you.
there's nothing stopping anyone from getting the wips or commenting on them.
"low profile" just means he doesn't (or at least didn't) want to advertise them by keeping an updated list on the front page.

not really any different from most other projects.

Um, no I am not deliberately trying to not understand this. I just think keeping WIP's on a low profile goes against the ideology of posting WIPs in the first place, that being review, suggestion, etc. I suppose you'll say that those concerned enough can wade through the topic looking for them, but going through 60+ pages is limited to the insanely dedicated or those following the project ardently.

[Hetcenus]

So everybody needs to go to page 66 to get mine.
Ivory Gadget, WIP #2: http://hetcenus.sitesled.com/IvoryGadgetWIP2.mp3

Still really low quality, sorry for that. I hope you all don't kick me out... although there were some problems I could've fixed, which I didn't because I had little time to record it (if anybody cares, calculus test coming up). Probably I'll make a better recording by the end of the week.

OK, back to the discussion...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Nope, there always have to be stupid disscusions about something. And it always involves people not involved with the project AT all. sigh. I'm about to make a big update, plus the project name will be announced (It's semitemporary though)

[RoeTaKa]

Damn sith change you name, people abreviating it are making me hungry.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

AHAHAHAHHA ^^^

Anyway, I, KFC :lol: , updated the front page. Overhauled it.

[Rexy]

May 22nd... wow 8O Looks as if we'll be sure to give it our all over the incoming month!

Fingers crossed, I'm sure we can get somewhere. Heh.

[RoeTaKa]

I, Mr Roe, take this oppurtunity...to fart.

[Bren]

working on a new wip as we speak. Im trying something different...Ill post it on the other forum when its complete.

[Hadyn]

Projekt Chaos is very similar to one of the names I suggested for the S2 project, so yeah. I like it :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It's only a temp though

[Ichitootah]

Ichi - What did you change from the last version? I can't put my finger on it specifically, and I don't have the old mp3 handy, but there was something about it I think I prefered in the older one ^^;

I put more high end EQ on the hi hats and cymbals, I changed one of the organ sounds, lowered the volume of the entire to reduce clipping, and added a couple new sections. I changed up the drums significantly, though they still sound pretty similar. I also lowered the volume of the supporting synths during the organ part because I thought they were blocking the main instrument out.

I'd guess the most audible changes I made are the EQed hi-hats and the new organ sample. Though if you had your speakers at the same level both listens, the first one probably would have sounded better because of the higher volume.

[Fusion2004]

This projekt has been officially pimped on FusionRadio. (#7)

[UltimateSonicFan]

http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=102978

May 22? Sheesh... I'll try.... heh

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.

[LuIzA]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.

How many other deadlines are there gonna be before the final one?

[Murmeli Walan]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.

How many other deadlines are there gonna be before the final one?

As many as are needed until the project's done.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.

How many other deadlines are there gonna be before the final one?

As many as are needed until the project's done.

More or less.

[Xenon Odyssey]

Projekt Chaos...so simple, yet so awesome...

Anywho. May 22nd?? Sweet. Though I still need to figure out how to record and insert myself in the song, I'm sure I could get my song done before the end of the month.

Oh, and KFC, I'm going to send you a cleaner version of my current WIP (so I don't get label in the RED, which will surely happen with the one I sent you.)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

ok

[The Instrument of GAWD]

Projekt? Come on, you serious about that?

[Rexy]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.
Yeah, but that sounds like my final considering that I won't be using a music tech lab over the summer :?

[Hadyn]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.
Yeah, but that sounds like my final considering that I won't be using a music tech lab over the summer :?

I think we should aim to make it the final. A month is EASILY enough tome to produce a remix -and considering we've all already started, it's not going to take a month to finish...

[Mr. Fox]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.
Yeah, but that sounds like my final considering that I won't be using a music tech lab over the summer :?

I think we should aim to make it the final. A month is EASILY enough tome to produce a remix -and considering we've all already started, it's not going to take a month to finish...

I completely agree

[Murmeli Walan]

Projekt? Come on, you serious about that?

It's not the final title, just a placeholder.

[Hadyn]

It's just the second deadline, not the final.
Yeah, but that sounds like my final considering that I won't be using a music tech lab over the summer :?

I think we should aim to make it the final. A month is EASILY enough tome to produce a remix -and considering we've all already started, it's not going to take a month to finish...

I completely agree

Only I should have said time, not tome... whoops.

Anyways. I'm not saying that, you know, if people aren't done in a month then screw them and launch the project anyway - that would be stupid. I'm just saying it so that most people have a near-completed version within a month, and any touch-ups or anything can be done after... Just forces people to get their shit together, really.

I'm not making sense. need sleep.

boobies.

[SnappleMan]

You people are all forgetting that this is going to be produced as an album. Meaning, all the tracks needs to be analyzed and brought down to the same level.

I think a month won't be enough for some. Two would be better for the final deadline.Then another couple weeks for final production.

[Hetcenus]

Hey, Rexy, could you give me two hands, please? I listened these days to your S&K piano solo remix, Tomorrow`s Wake, and it`s so wonderful!! Could you comment on mine, please? And also, how did you record it?

BTW, KFC, it`s so generous of you to put my mix on the middle line. I know something like that would never enter a serious project...

[Xenon Odyssey]

boobies.

Yay!! Boobies! ( * )( * ) <('.'<) Kirby wants to touch.

Don't click this if you want a happy life (http://home.comcast.net/~xenon_odyssey/Xenon_Odyssey_-_Hydrolocity_-_v2.75.mp3)

If 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, why are there locks on the doors?

[Bren]

Because I think it needs more attention, I added a link to the Kazorum forum in my sig...just to remind people that its there and could really help make critting and project ideas/news easier to keep up with.

[Rexy]

Hey, Rexy, could you give me two hands, please?
http://www.nzim.net.nz/two_hands.jpg

I listened these days to your S&K piano solo remix, Tomorrow`s Wake, and it`s so wonderful!!
Thanks very much ^_^ Glad to see there's someone else out there that likes my crap, mwaha.

Could you comment on mine, please?
Sure, I'll take a look into it - we can do with more Sonic piano.

Mind, in terms of general arrangement, I felt that much of the compositional foundations have done well to add a more reflective side to the Chrome Gadget status (which in turn got more frantic as time managed to go on). I can still sense the theme there - a very thoughtful variation on the source by that aspect. It may be argued that it seemed to go against the frantic nature of the racing stage, however given the basic landscapes of the level itself I can easily imagine one of those reflective moments while residing within that zone itself. :)

But I have to agree with Sithlord that the quality seemed to be rather ridden with noise. I think the problem with that might have been that you ended up recording the track, then normalising it to its peak straight afterwards - big mistake, and that's what I learnt with my initial variation on Tomorrow's Wake. I suggest that before recording you test the mic input - make sure that the input levels are as high as they can go without clipping or peaking, and once that's done you're ready to be able to record.

I hope that helps you. If not, let me know.

And also, how did you record it?
Me? I just wired a soundfont through a MIDI keyboard, then I played my freakin' heart out. 8O That's ok, I would really hope to hold my own equipment to mic up a real piano one of these days.

[Vilecat]

Because I think it needs more attention, I added a link to the Kazorum forum in my sig...just to remind people that its there and could really help make critting and project ideas/news easier to keep up with.
First time i look through it. That's nice to see there are more developpements outside the OCR thread.

[After looking at the artwork section]
So you ARE the Hadyn i saw on DA. I almost asked if it was really you when i saw your zombie pic on the site, but i felt dumb if it wouldn't have been the case. Dude, i love your art style.

... Sorry if this is an unwanted topic in this thread :lol:

[Hadyn]

Because I think it needs more attention, I added a link to the Kazorum forum in my sig...just to remind people that its there and could really help make critting and project ideas/news easier to keep up with.
First time i look through it. That's nice to see there are more developpements outside the OCR thread.

[After looking at the artwork section]
So you ARE the Hadyn i saw on DA. I almost asked if it was really you when i saw your zombie pic on the site, but i felt dumb if it wouldn't have been the case. Dude, i love your art style.

... Sorry if this is an unwanted topic in this thread :lol:

Hehe, thanks man. Yeah, I have some stupid nikname on DA - one of those things that sounded cool 5 years ago but sucks now and I can't change it ^^;

But yeah. That's me. I'm gald you like my stuff! :)