Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos - History

[SnappleMan]

I offered him many options. In the end, he wanted to be the only person on that track. I then asked Master Hatchet if he wanted to quit and give the song to Beatdrop, but he was very enthusiastic about the song and just seemed more confident. So I told Beatdrop that MH was staying, and I never got a response.

[Eon_Blue]

I offered him many options. In the end, he wanted to be the only person on that track. I then asked Master Hatchet if he wanted to quit and give the song to Beatdrop, but he was very enthusiastic about the song and just seemed more confident. So I told Beatdrop that MH was staying, and I never got a response.

If beatdrop's intentions are to simply be an elitist prick, then I say the album is better off without him. It's already been established that if you want on the album, you have to earn it.

It's a shame because beatdrop's track really rocked.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I offered him many options. In the end, he wanted to be the only person on that track. I then asked Master Hatchet if he wanted to quit and give the song to Beatdrop, but he was very enthusiastic about the song and just seemed more confident. So I told Beatdrop that MH was staying, and I never got a response.

If beatdrop's intentions are to simply be an elitist prick, then I say the album is better off without him. It's already been established that if you want on the album, you have to earn it.

It's a shame because beatdrop's track really rocked.

Very true. He has too good of a track for him to get all elite on us. But no matter, Hatchet is awesome too.

[hobo]

Damn, he had a good track... Oh well, if he's going to be stubborn like that...

[UltimateSonicFan]

Um, KFC, where is that long overdue PM?

[Vilecat]

Awesome, all this makes me even more excited about the final results. And BrainCells is onboard now? 8) Cool. All the collabs are very very very interesting too.

edit: Akumajo isn't doing Hydrocity anymore? Aaaw, i loved his song :cry:

[Xenon Odyssey]

Well, since I now see who I'm up against, I would like to change my track to Marble Garden. I doubt I can make something to compete with Housethegrate anyhow. Place me down for that; hopefully I can get a worthy WIP by the deadline.

[Kanjika]

FINALLY i have a rough sandopolis WIP...but still not the full song though.

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4101

Enjoy!

[hobo]

Kanjika, you amaze me again. Fantastic take on Sandopolis.

[SnappleMan]

Sandopolis - { (two part collab) 1.DarkeSword+SnappleMan, 2.Zyko+BrainCells }

..... :(


Just listened to yours, it's quite good!

But I must warn you, I'm pulling out all the stops on this one! LET THE BEST MAN WIN! :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Kanji, besides the intro, VERY VERY impressive.

[Kanjika]

Sandopolis - { (two part collab) 1.DarkeSword+SnappleMan, 2.Zyko+BrainCells }

..... :(


Just listened to yours, it's quite good!

But I must warn you, I'm pulling out all the stops on this one! LET THE BEST MAN WIN! :D

YAY COMPETITION!!!

LOL! im sure you guys will be able to do something great too.

And KFC...the intro wasnt even close to what i planned to do. It sort of came out crappy :( I have a very different idea for that violin solo, a MUCH better one.........

And is it just me or is the guitar crappy sounding?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Dammit, my headphones aren't working, so till I buy some more, I have to hold off on recording today like I planned. I'm trying to get some tommorow.

[The Joker]

Okay I'm gonna go ahead & post an updated version of Death Egg.
http://joker.paletteswap.com/Other%20Crap/S3&K%20Remix%20Project%20-%20Destiny%20Awaits%20(Emerald%20Mix).mp3

The emerald mix in paranthesis is just to make it stand apart from the original file, since I'm not sure I wanna continue this version. Tell me what you think. Should I keep refining this version, or should I expand upon the old original?
http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/S3&K%20-%20Joker%20-%20Destiny%20Awaits.mp3

[SnappleMan]

I hope everyone has noticed the update I made to the main post. There will be a new method of compiling the finished tracks (different from old projects), so make sure to read that first post often.

[GaMeBoX]

That was a very bad turn i think. Without a vote, it wont be fair... Well, since i dont got any competition i wont be cryin to much about it, but i think it totally suxx... Very bad idea....

[SnappleMan]

Well, like I said, alot of people wont like it, but it's the best way. With past projects, some of the more experianced musicians, and OCR Judges, felt that a song or two might be better for the album, but, since the popular vote was in favor of the other song, the album had to suffer.

There's no way I'm gonna let someones popularity govern how the music for this project will end up.

One of the ideas was making the voting "blind", but that would mean that:

A) Only me and KFC could get the songs. Killing the teamwork factor.

B) No guarantee that people wont send their songs to friends, killing the annonymity.

There's no way to have a 100% fair vote.

[Kanjika]

That was a very bad turn i think. Without a vote, it wont be fair... Well, since i dont got any competition i wont be cryin to much about it, but i think it totally suxx... Very bad idea....

yes it sucks! Let the people decide what remixes are on the project...i think it would be cool if anyone (any legitimate forum member)could vote for any number of songs. If the people dont decide what mixes are on the project whats the point of releasing this? i dont see how not voting would help quality either.

EDIT....ok now that i rethink this...its a good idea LOL. i just thought how much this could go downhill if we just used what people wanted.

Id not ENTIRELY in favor of the idea still, but it seems like the way thats best

[SnappleMan]

That was a very bad turn i think. Without a vote, it wont be fair... Well, since i dont got any competition i wont be cryin to much about it, but i think it totally suxx... Very bad idea....

yes it sucks! Let the people decide what remixes are on the project...i think it would be cool if anyone (any legitimate forum member)could vote for any number of songs. If the people dont decide what mixes are on the project whats the point of releasing this? i dont see how not voting would help quality either.

Not voting will help quality cuz I'm a stricter judge of music than almost anyone here at OCR, and even VGmix.

[SnappleMan]

As for the people deciding, the people don't know shit. They vote on the most wrong reasons for a song.

They'll see Kanjika has 4 mixes on the album, SomeAsshole49 has only one. They'll more likely vote for SomeAsshole49 because of pity, not quality. This has happened in the past, and is prone to happen again.

I mean, the decisions by KFC and I wont be 100% final, if there's a strong enough demand for it, we'll hold a vote for a song we've already decided on. But for now, it's all on a non-voting basis.

[KyleJCrb]

I think it makes sense to do it by the coordinators choosing instead of a voting process. Remember, Snapple didn't say that the voting process will be done away with altogether; if some songs are very close to each other in terms of quality, they would be voted on. It's a great way to ensure quality control, and it's a good idea on the part of Snapple and KFC to make sure the project is consistant and well-rounded when it is complete. A very good idea, I think.

I might have to "borrow" it once I can get my own project off the ground. :P

[SnappleMan]

Also, I'm thinking of something else we might want to consider.

I personally would not mind having two of the same song back to back. Meaning, if two competing songs are both REALLY great, why not just use both?

There are professional arrangement albums out there which have 2 or 3 versions of the more popular songs on the OST. Why can't we do the same?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I gotta seriously think about that one Snap. I think the Bonus Cuts disc 2 I dead was better.

[GaMeBoX]

i always thought that it was only we in the project that was supposed to vote.. as it previously said in the main post of this projects thread, this is *our* project, and we work as a *team*.

[SnappleMan]

i always thought that it was only we in the project that was supposed to vote.. as it previously said in the main post of this projects thread, this is *our* project, and we work as a *team*.

Yes, and that's why it took me so long to change the compilation system like that. Voting and teamwork are not the same. We don't want teamwork in voting, that's how the wrong songs get voted on. Friends vote for friends, vote for friends vote for friends blah blah blah.

It's more fair to everyone this way.

[Kanjika]

Wow theres alot of stuff that voters could screw up now that i think.

Im 100% in favor of non-voting now :)

[GaMeBoX]

yeah, you got a good point there..

[SnappleMan]

In cases where it's my song vs someone else's, a third party will be called in to talk to KFC about which to use.

[Hadyn]

I was just about to ask about that - I have the strangest feeling now that, even with a third party, you'll win all of those :P

Then again, your music's generally pretty awesome, so I don't mind ^^

[SnappleMan]

Bah, get yerr lips offa my sack, I aint no better than anyone else on this project.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Bah, get yerr lips offa my sack, I aint no better than anyone else on this project.

Congrats, that was the biggest lie you have ever told in the history of your life.

[SnappleMan]

Bah, get yerr lips offa my sack, I aint no better than anyone else on this project.

Congrats, that was the biggest lie you have ever told in the history of your life.

Just because I'm a cock to you doesn't mean that I'm not a very humble man! SUCK IT!

[DCT]

Bah, get yerr lips offa my sack, I aint no better than anyone else on this project.

Congrats, that was the biggest lie you have ever told in the history of your life.

Just because I'm a cock to you doesn't mean that I'm not a very humble man! SUCK IT!
SnappleMan has always been nice to me. :)

Anyway, I'm gonna have to back out. I am getting absolutely nowhere with the Special Stage theme, and I don't think I'll be able to come up with anything substantial by the upcoming deadline. Good luck to everyone involved in the project.

-DCT

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Bah, get yerr lips offa my sack, I aint no better than anyone else on this project.

Congrats, that was the biggest lie you have ever told in the history of your life.

Just because I'm a cock to you doesn't mean that I'm not a very humble man! SUCK IT!
SnappleMan has always been nice to me. :)

Anyway, I'm gonna have to back out. I am getting absolutely nowhere with the Special Stage theme, and I don't think I'll be able to come up with anything substantial by the upcoming deadline. Good luck to everyone involved in the project.

-DCT

No problem dude. It's all gravy. Love your new song btw. :wink:

[hobo]

I'm all in favor of the non-voting idea, but I prefer the bonus disc idea to the more than one of each track idea.

[phase cactus]

Tell me what you think. Should I keep refining this version, or should I expand upon the old original?
completely-unprovoked-drop-in-boy-and-long-time-lurker says: Yes. By far. Stick with the new one. Much as the old one just grabbed me, the new one grabbed me and slathered us both in super glue. Worlds better than already good. Keep it up.

Oh, and Rexyyyy! I would kill someone if it would get me a link to your Angel Island WIP. I miss it. I listened to it a million times and forgot to move it out of the temporary folder. Now it's deleted and the old link's dead. :\

[Hadyn]

I agree with Phasm, The new version is quite an improvement :)

I have some irks about the drums and stuff, but I'll let you iron it out as much as possible in your own way before offering any advice ^^

good job so far,

~Hadyn

[SnappleMan]

We got a new member onboard, please check the update page! First one to find out gets a free cookie!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DANNY B!#!%#^#!!&$*#*$(*!$^*

[Nineko]

I'm glad to see Danny B joining here. this is going to give even more quality to this excellent project.

[Xenon Odyssey]

Marble Garden - Daniel Baranowsky

...Fuck. Well, there goes my chance to be on the project...not that I would have been in the first place, but eh...

[Rexy]

Well knowing him I think we should be in for some interesting stuff :D

And don't fret, Xeron - as long as you keep up with your work I'm sure you'll have a solid effort to fit on the album ;)

[Jivemaster]

We got a new member onboard, please check the update page! First one to find out gets a free cookie!

Yet Jivemaster's presence remains unnoticed... Will he not bring quality to the project?

I get lonely sometimes :cry:

:)

-Jive

[Kanjika]

Alright ive finally decided which songs im going to do, and which i wont.

Im dropping icecap, and i may finish credits. Sandopolis and sky sanctuary are both very close to being done and ill have final versions soon. Put a big maybe by me on credits...

OH, and put me down for hidden palace too :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

We got a new member onboard, please check the update page! First one to find out gets a free cookie!

Yet Jivemaster's presence remains unnoticed... Will he not bring quality to the project?

I get lonely sometimes :cry:

:)

-Jive

HAHAH, are you kidding me? Trust me, I'm glad you are on the project.

[UltimateSonicFan]

Hey Jive, you told me a long way back you were working on a Doomsday remix. What happened to it?

[Holy Warrior Azar]

I didnt even know Jivemaster remixed anymore, this is just too sweet. :P

[Murmeli Walan]

I didnt even know Jivemaster remixed anymore, this is just too sweet. :P

Yep, looks like he's back from his hiatus. :D

[jmr]

I'm really glad to have all these well known mixers on the project, yet I'm equally glad for the newer, lesser known mixers. It's a good way for them (I mean, us... I consider myself among the 'lesser-known') to get their material out in the open.

[The Joker]

I'm really happy Krispy decided to collab with me. "Beyond The Horizon" should be spectacular indeed!

[Rexy]

Neat, Krispy's on the project :) Best of luck with your contribution, Joker.

Mind, at my end I only have a week left to arrange, and juggling this as well as an RPGamer.com contest entry, two OCR re-subs and whatnot, time is getting rather short. I can say I've incorporated a lot of new ideas since the previous upload, which I feel will best be saved until the project is released.

I am currently going through the file editing as I go through this; once it's done I'll send the finished MP3 to either KFC or Snapple (depends which one is more accessible) and that's that.

Course, if the project is still in development once my sophomore year starts in mid-September I could start something else then... but who knows :P

[EDIT: Oh, and for the record the front page stated that the files shouldn't be over -14dB in terms of RMS; how close do you expect the MP3s to be? about -0.2db out?]

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I am currently going through the file editing as I go through this; once it's done I'll send the finished MP3 to either KFC or Snapple (depends which one is more accessible) and that's that.
]

Most likely me ;)

[UltimateSonicFan]

Sorry to let this carry over to the topic, but are you ignoring your previous statement of giving me a constructive review KFC?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

No, I'm not ignoring you. You should contact me via Aim or Msn, or at least post a link of your mix again.

[SnappleMan]

HAVE YOUR WIPS READY BY THIS SUNDAY!

THe next deadline is coming up. People who don't have any work at this point get kicked off the project.

I should also have another good update by then, so check back with this thread!

And don't worry about making something epic and spectacular by this weekend. All we want to hear is SOME progress.

And most importantly, DO NOT POST FINISHED WORK HERE!

Finished work ONLY goes to KFC and I.

[Kanjika]

Holy fuck i only have tonight and tommorw night to work on my wips!!! Ill be away from home on friday, saturday, and sunday (but ill still have access to the internet, just no remixing.)

And will you take me off icecap and put me on hidden palace already!? :P

[Rexy]

sheesh, how many people are doing hidden palace already? :P

Anyway... yeah. While inbetween sessions of mastering down the finished incarnation for my Angel Island work I already started on a Competition Menu interpretation. I'll probably put up a minute-long demo tomorrow. :)

[Sora]

*flail* take me off Sky Sanctuary already. Mine's sucked so I stopped working on it ages ago. And Hadyn's been busy (as to be suspected :wink:) so we'll probably just be posting the same one that I posted before. (my copy not the collab.)
and I was wondering, do you guys want an intro song? (the sonic3 intro song?) [( I PMed KFC)] [({I'm impatient})] :wink:

[Rexy]

I think the track that people are seeing as an intro is the Data Select theme. Sorry to see things aren't quite working out though, Sora :(

[Sora]

I think the track that people are seeing as an intro is the Data Select theme. Sorry to see things aren't quite working out though, Sora :(
what I meant to say was "for the second CD what would be the intro?" (at least that's what I was asking KFC)

[Rexy]

ah, now I understand O.o knowing the course of the game I think it's Mushroom Hill Zone, although I think we can do with some further clarification.

(That reminds me, one of these days I'll redo my own elder incarnation in some cleaner form or other. Yeah. I hate BuzzMachines.)

[Sora]

I meant would you rather have the Menu Select or the S3 Intro/S&K Intro to start off the CD?

OTHER FORUM'S LINK IN SIG. USE FOR ART AND CD DISCUSSION

[SnappleMan]

Everything will be settled down by mid-late next week. After I get all the WIPs, I'll set final people to the tracks, then the REAL project will start.

My goal is to have as few people competing as possible, so that we can narrow it down and not have people wasting their time on tracks they most likely wont win anyway. (may sound a little harsh, but I was never known to be a softee ;) )

[Hadyn]

Hadyn's been busy (as to be suspected :wink:) so we'll probably just be posting the same one that I posted before. (my copy not the collab.)

I'm sorry hey, not only have I had all these different mixes to work on, but I have exams and a massive assignment to worry about now... With work on top of all of that, it's pretty hectic around here ^^;

[ellywu2]

Hey everyone, i expect the wip for carnival nights will be the same one as before, as like haydn, i've been really busy with exams. Its enough for a WIP piece of course, just thought you should know.

[The Joker]

Yeah. Things have been getting hectic & one unexpected thing after another seems to be occurring in me lifes. I'll try to have an updated version of Death Egg, but it won;t be much changed other than a few compositional differences as well as a new piano sample. I'll try, but the latest wip might have to do.

I'll talk to krispy & try to get a demo of the collab version of Beyond the Horizon.

[Rexy]

Alright, even though I asked for it I didn't get put in as a candidate for the Competition Menu theme. But, I wrote a WIP anyway (http://rexy.herograw.com/schumacher-demo.mp3). :P

You can't have Rexy without piano coverage, am I right? Hehe. What I did was give in a light jazz piano feel towards that theme, as shown by the overall rhythmic surge towards the instrumentation itself. I was kind of hoping for a salooney feel before the racing challenges begin, which usually can be imagined to be the case for racers in real life.

And for those who don't get the "bar owner" in the title, that's named after Michael Schumacher, the most notorious F1 racer from the past 10 years or so 8O

I've got the basic arrangement itself fully established, I just need a few picking upon the technical procedings. Course, the mood is a big, big twist-around from Tomorrow's Wake so that could be saying something.

But be wary, I have a week left to mix stuff. Gulp?

[Sir_NutS]

so many things to do!!!
so little time!!!
me godz!!!

[SnappleMan]

Alright, even though I asked for it I didn't get put in as a candidate for the Competition Menu theme. But, I wrote a WIP anyway (http://rexy.herograw.com/schumacher-demo.mp3). :P

You can't have Rexy without piano coverage, am I right? Hehe. What I did was give in a light jazz piano feel towards that theme, as shown by the overall rhythmic surge towards the instrumentation itself. I was kind of hoping for a salooney feel before the racing challenges begin, which usually can be imagined to be the case for racers in real life.

And for those who don't get the "bar owner" in the title, that's named after Michael Schumacher, the most notorious F1 racer from the past 10 years or so 8O

I've got the basic arrangement itself fully established, I just need a few picking upon the technical procedings. Course, the mood is a big, big twist-around from Tomorrow's Wake so that could be saying something.

But be wary, I have a week left to mix stuff. Gulp?

Dammit woman, I added you!

[Rexy]

:lmassoff:

While I'm here thanks for the commentary dropped off towards my Angel Island work. I'll see if I can look into the file sometime tomorrow, providing that I'm not too occupied with other things :P

[GeckoYamori]

Jesus christ, I can't come up with anything good that's slower than 110bpm. I guess I'll just switch to what I do best.

[Kanjika]

WTF will somebody update the freakin post?! Im doing HIdden palace, Sandopolis, and Sky sanctuary...NOT icecap.

And all my finished WIPs will be posted later, or tomorrow. :)

[Sora]

since I'll probably be gone in the next few days:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3913
It's only the stuff I worked on. When Hadyn's done juggling his busy life style we'll put something entirely new together. :wink: (poor Hadyn's always busy :lol: ) and Snappleman never really answered the question of: "Should we have the S3 intro start the second CD?".

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Calm down Kanji, I'm updating now lol. As for the SK intro thing, I'll have to peep your track.

Rexy - Loving your new track!

[Rexy]

Hehe, thanks ^^ although, I'm worried if I scared you off doing your own adaptation? 8O

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Nah, I just lost intrest, and I have three tracks anyway already.

[Kanjika]

Fucking vgmix and their crappy WIP system! I had to reupload Sky Sanctuary because i uploaded a bad mp3. I upload and find i cant upload any more for 24 hours,so i cant put hidden palace there. Oh well, i always hated those idiots and that dumbass site. Ill host elsewhere.

For now, heres the Sky Sanctuary and Sandopolis (updated) WIPs.

Sandopolis: http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4101

SS: http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4169

[Rexy]

I know how you feel, but the people at VGMix are very protective over people who flood the recent releases or the WIP boards with the same song. That happened a lot during version 1, but even with that in mind I don't see it as a reason to curse against the site.

That said, I can help you provide hosting through a folder on my FTP :) If you want you can mail the file in my direction and I'll hook it up with the masses.

I'm still digging your Sky Sanc work, although then again... that may be because of my experience with the theme that I know how to see a firm establishment of the music when I see one :P

[Master Hatchet]

God damn piece of shit. That's the second time this month my computer has decided to corrupt one of my project files, FUCK. At least for my DoD entry I only had to re-do my drums which I wasn't very far into anyways, but SHIT my whole Flying Battery file is FUCKED and now I'm getting bad disk sectors on my Audio drive.


I'm very, VERY sorry everyone, you have no idea how upset I am.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Ugh, I know the feeling. That fucking sucks.

[danny B]

I'm thinking about posting a very early WIP once I get scratch vocals recorded. Is that cool?

-D

[Rexy]

Dammit Dan, a... vocal Marble Garden? Funny you mention that, because I had similar visions of that kind of mix a few months back... complete with Mythril Nazgul doing a rap in the middle :P

But eh, good luck with it. I'm definitely interested in this one :)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I'm thinking about posting a very early WIP once I get scratch vocals recorded. Is that cool?

-D

ok.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

I'm thinking about posting a very early WIP once I get scratch vocals recorded. Is that cool?

-D

Are you going to sound like "REM" like you did in the Earthworm Jim arrangement?

[SnappleMan]

God damn piece of shit. That's the second time this month my computer has decided to corrupt one of my project files, FUCK. At least for my DoD entry I only had to re-do my drums which I wasn't very far into anyways, but SHIT my whole Flying Battery file is FUCKED and now I'm getting bad disk sectors on my Audio drive.


I'm very, VERY sorry everyone, you have no idea how upset I am.

I feel your pain man... Damn shooter month... Anyway, if you can't take on Flying Battery, let me know, I'll take it over.

[GaMeBoX]

what does the *closed* mean ??

[Sir_NutS]

I'll upload a new hidden palace demo tonight. Also I'll work more on my boss 2 song too, I'm gonna have some free time this weekend(AT LAST!) so I'm gonna spend it mixing.
yay!

[Rexy]

Mmmm... more Nutty goodness. :) It'll be interesting to see what you have at hand.

Damn shooter month...
What, you still think this is February? 8O

[Nineko]

heres the Sky Sanctuary WIP.
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4169I can say only "8O". never heard a song like this, I gave you a
YES

+1 for judge style!

seriously, I love this ReMix. there are still some minor issues to fix up, but man, this is already a best in my favourite ranking.

congratulations and keep on this wonderful work!

[SnappleMan]

what does the *closed* mean ??

It means that there are no more people allowed to chose that track. By the end of this coming week, I hope to have all of the tracks closed off.

[The Joker]

Does that mean you guys are also making it so that only one person is doing a song? Like if there is 2 people right now on an open song, once it's closed there will only be one?

[SnappleMan]

Nope. If the WIPs we get both show promise, then the song is locked with both people working on it. It means that there can be no more competing for that track.

[Sir_NutS]

as promised(though a little late), another hidden palace demo:

ftp://66.221.70.133/FS/The_Unseen_Wonders.mp3

yes I know, the levels are really crazy towards the end, but I'll soften them up later.

The piano part isn't a live performance , but at the end It will be(I hope so)
Comments are welcome.

[Rexy]

eh, Nuts... since when was the Hidden Palace theme played during the second act Robotnik encounters? :)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Tommorow I will be making a few surprise cuts of people I feel have VERY little involvement or of people I don't feel are ready to work on a full fledged project. - kFc.

[Sir_NutS]

eh, Nuts... since when was the Hidden Palace theme played during the second act Robotnik encounters? :)
LOL wrong naming

ftp://66.221.70.133/FS/The_Unseen_Wonders.mp3

[Ichitootah]

Out of the blue, I have decided to post my WIP of Balloon Park Competition in this thread.

Helium Stairways (http://www.soundclick.us/fastkG/10/04/freemp3/ichitootah+heliumstairways.mp3)

Well, off to review some WIPs!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Impressive work Ichi, even though it sounds way different. I'm still trying to find out how your WIP sounds anything like the original. I hit you back about it.

[captain_llama]

I thought the same thing, until I listened to the original again and realized Ichitootah slowed the melody waaay down. An interesting variation...

[Ichitootah]

The main section I have pretty much put in directly, though I may have changed the tone or a few notes. Much of the beginning is from the song as well, albeit not as major, but almost the exact same notes (I think). If you still can't find any similarity, I'll elaborate further.

[Nineko]

don't care about them, Ichi.
your song is really nice. and I can easily recognize the original tune. maybe that's because I actually played a lot with S3&K while other people here don't :roll: . there aren't wrong notes here, the melody is pretty clear, as well as the chord progression. that's definitely Balloon Park.
nice job, man! :wink:

[GeckoYamori]

Man, this is really frustrating. I hope I can get something ready in time. First I was going for Hip Hop, but it didn't work out as expected, so I switched to breakbeat. That sounded pretty boring and not that different from Jivemaster's remix. Then I tried some House. It sounded better but wasn't quite there yet. Now I'm trying to turn the bassline into some latino brass chords.

[captain_llama]

nineko - You underestimate me...I have played 130,482,588,528 hours of S3&K! That's why I'm posting here (I'm not a remixer)! But no one said anything negative. In fact, I like that this mix creates a different mood from the original.

[Kanjika]

VGMIX IS BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. I cant submit a WIP for 4 days since i deleted an old one.

BULLSHIT. lol.

Since id rather not get kicked off Hidden palace, heres the intro to the song. The main part of the song is very unfinished so far (and is actually similar to my sandopolis wip in some ways). This intro probably wont be so long in the finished version either.

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=554896&t=8198

Enjoy!

[Nineko]

nineko - You underestimate me...I have played 130,482,588,528 hours of S3&K! That's why I'm posting here (I'm not a remixer)! But no one said anything negative. In fact, I like that this mix creates a different mood from the original.my sarcastic comment was for KFC, not for you. I knew you're a real Sonic player. :wink:

Btw, as djp said in the guidelines, a ReMix means that you should actually do something different on a tune. Otherwise, ReMixers can take .gym files and do straight conversions saying that they are "remixes". I think Ichi's interpretation is very well done and it still has the original melody in it.

regards.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Kanjika.... oh my........... friggen.........jesus..... christ.....

[Rexy]

Like I said, the staff are only doing the restrictions to prevent flooding :? Nothing to do with the music quality or anything.

hm... oh well, might as well bring my final few contributions to wraps :)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Ok, making cuts NOW. If your name isn't on the cuts list on the front page, you are good for now..

[DJ Nova]

Ok so here is an update on my remix. Since the drum weren't really much, i decided to add some conga's, only that didn't really work out very well...that why i have 2 versions now, one with, and one without the conga's. Please tell me if i should keep 'em or drop 'em.

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3doomsday(novamix).mp3
Conga's

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3doomsday(novamix2nocongas).mp3
No conga's

Also, i'm a total n00b when it comes to eq'ing. I just can't do it cause i don't know how and what...if some one could help me with that, i would be very grateful (i use FL, as some might already have noticed :wink: )

[jmr]

Here's my latest version:
www.rayza.net/misc/jmr-ee-may22.mp3
(thanks to Rayza for hosting, as usual)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Ok so here is an update on my remix. Since the drum weren't really much, i decided to add some conga's, only that didn't really work out very well...that why i have 2 versions now, one with, and one without the conga's. Please tell me if i should keep 'em or drop 'em.

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3doomsday(novamix).mp3
Conga's

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3doomsday(novamix2nocongas).mp3
No conga's

Also, i'm a total n00b when it comes to eq'ing. I just can't do it cause i don't know how and what...if some one could help me with that, i would be very grateful (i use FL, as some might already have noticed :wink: ) Woah, nice save - I had cut you. I'll look over these and put you back on.

[DJ Nova]

I read your post just after I submitted mine (yes it took me over ten minutes to write that!)

[Nicole Adams]

Whew! I finally caught up and read the whole thread and some pages from the old one. I'm sure most of you noticed me and Gman are not doing Hydrocity anymore. Communication was frustrating and I lost all inspiration for the song. However, I am giving NutS some vocals for his Boss 2 remix. Hopefully it'll turn out as cool as we hope! Anyway, glad to see this project rollin' along quite nicely! Keep it up everyone!

[Hadyn]

VGMIX IS BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. I cant submit a WIP for 4 days since i deleted an old one.

BULLSHIT. lol.

Since id rather not get kicked off Hidden palace, heres the intro to the song. The main part of the song is very unfinished so far (and is actually similar to my sandopolis wip in some ways). This intro probably wont be so long in the finished version either.

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=554896&t=8198

Enjoy!

I enjoyed...

I really f*cking enjoyed o.O

On a side note, I'm collaborating with Ellywu2 on the carnival night theme. Just noticed it hadn't changed on the front page. If you want the latest version, you'll have to ask him for the link ^^;

edit: I'm still on a massive assignment and I have exams this week, but things should hypothetically quiet down after this, and I might have some time to work on these remixes some more :D

[Antipode]

I'll get back to you guys in just about an hour with my WIP. It's almost done.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

antipode, it's good to see that you haven't completely forgotten about the project. I'll look forward to the track.

Also, in other news my Special Stage theme is almost done :)... but I haven't started on Chrome Gatget :(

[Xenon Odyssey]

Regarding the now *free* tracks on the first page, are those being given to people already on the project, or can people not on the project give a try for those and have judgement accordingly?

Since I've nothing to do and need something to occupy my time with something that will be worth something in the end.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Before we put you on, we have to hear a WIP FIRST.

[Rayza]

Ok almost done, need to tag on an ending mostly and fix little bits.. Been workin on a few other things that can be found at http://www.rayza.net

Heres the almost done wip:

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure-almostdone.mp3

I also don't have enough mojo to finish the credits theme so I've been taken off of that one..

[SnappleMan]

Just got GrayLightning onboard for Desert Palace.

[Nicole Adams]

Ok almost done, need to tag on an ending mostly and fix little bits.. Been workin on a few other things that can be found at http://www.rayza.net

Heres the almost done wip:

http://www.rayza.net/misc/azure-almostdone.mp3

I also don't have enough mojo to finish the credits theme so I've been taken off of that one..

Cool stuff, Rayza! That goes for the soundtrack, too. :wink:

[Icy Guy]

Shit. I finally get a chance to update my WIP (I've been grounded. The reason? Windows died. Yes, I've been grounded because Windows died.), and then I find out that, in spite of what it apparently says on the front page, I've been cut. To boot, Gray gets Desert Palace, which means that I shouldn't even post what I have so far, since it's obvious anything he'll make will beat what I've made.

In the forgotten words of online gaming:

Good game, guys, and good luck.

[Antipode]

Ok. I've screwed with this thing for long enough.

Here's what I've got at this point.
http://www.paletteswap.com/music/?p=download&id=30

Tell me what you think.

[Ichitootah]

Shit. I finally get a chance to update my WIP (I've been grounded. The reason? Windows died. Yes, I've been grounded because Windows died.), and then I find out that, in spite of what it apparently says on the front page, I've been cut. To boot, Gray gets Desert Palace, which means that I shouldn't even post what I have so far, since it's obvious anything he'll make will beat what I've made.

In the forgotten words of online gaming:

Good game, guys, and good luck.

:cry:

I'm a huge fan of both your track from the DKC2 project and your Hedgehog Heaven track.

It's really a shame to see you off the project, especially now that you've got an updated WIP.

At least post it... Please?

[Rexy]

Just got GrayLightning onboard for Desert Palace.
One word - awesome :D

[KyleJCrb]

Just got GrayLightning onboard for Desert Palace.
One word - awesome :D

I think that outlook goes for the entire project. I can't wait for the final product on this one. :)

[Rexy]

No, really. ^_^ I really, *really* love GrayLightning's work, and to see him show his contributions to this track will be really interesting to witness. Larry, Compyfox, if either of you are reading this... he is really not a jerk.

Hehe... really? :P

[Hadyn]

really.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Icy, nothing personal, I just feel that haven't contributed much at all since this started. No offense of course.

[KyleJCrb]

No, really. ^_^ I really, *really* love GrayLightning's work, and to see him show his contributions to this track will be really interesting to witness. Larry, Compyfox, if either of you are reading this... he is really not a jerk.

Hehe... really? :P

Of course he's good. Why do you think I recruited him and am trying to get him to choose a damn track or two for the Tales project? :P

And where might they get the idea that Gray is a jerk? He's always been a nice guy over at VGMix...

[Hadyn]

He's at VGmix!? What a jerk*!

*not really

[jmr]

Icy, nothing personal, I just feel that haven't contributed much at all since this started. No offense of course.
...(I've been grounded. The reason? Windows died. Yes, I've been grounded because Windows died.)...
I dunno about anyone else, but I feel that to be a legitimate excuse.
I'm personally a big fan of Icy Guy's work, and I feel a little disapointed that he has been cut from this project.

[Terial]

*shakes fist at rayza* dropping the credits are you?
*cracks knuckles* we'll fix that -_-

actually... I'm sad to see you drop it :( I was looking forward to seeing your take on it. *Sigh* hopefully someone will come up with a good remix of the credits that really pleases me and fulfill's my expectations... oh well, I still love the azure lake mix :wink:

[GrayLightning]

No, really. ^_^ I really, *really* love GrayLightning's work, and to see him show his contributions to this track will be really interesting to witness. Larry, Compyfox, if either of you are reading this... he is really not a jerk.

Hehe... really? :P

Of course he's good. Why do you think I recruited him and am trying to get him to choose a damn track or two for the Tales project? :P

And where might they get the idea that Gray is a jerk? He's always been a nice guy over at VGMix...

I didn't actually hear the radio stream, so I'm not sure what the context of that was? Both of them are friends of mine. They were just joking around on air, in response to me constantly saying larry is "smelly." Lesson #1, never listen to larry. Lesson #2 Larry can never come up with any good jokes/liners, his always confuse people. Lesson #3 He's a chump. :wink: Oh and he smells of swine too.

Anyway, I'm gonna try to start work on this mix this week. It's going to be difficult since there's really not much to work with in the source material. Hopefully I can do something interesting with it.

Kyle, I'll get back to you on the stuff ASAP. :)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Icy, nothing personal, I just feel that haven't contributed much at all since this started. No offense of course.
...(I've been grounded. The reason? Windows died. Yes, I've been grounded because Windows died.)...
I dunno about anyone else, but I feel that to be a legitimate excuse.
I'm personally a big fan of Icy Guy's work, and I feel a little disapointed that he has been cut from this project.

I am aware of that, but I don't feel that I can count on him to get something done, and because of his lackluster WIP that he really didn't do much of anything on, just brought me to my decesion faster. Once again, no offense to Icy Guy, cause I like his music.


EDIT oh yeah, antipode you are back on the project now, since your WIP was ok, but dude, the bass and stuff is just ear bleeding, and get GeoDude to record guitar for you instead of you using sucker, ehem, slayer.

[SnappleMan]

Well, Gray IS a jerk. He offered me a nickle to tickle his pickle. And boy did I tickle! For Free!

[KyleJCrb]

Well, Gray IS a jerk. He offered me a nickle to tickle his pickle. And boy did I tickle! For Free!

So is THAT what it takes to get Gray on projects? Hmmm...

[hobo]

Kanjika, I friggin love your Mixes!

[Murmeli Walan]

Well, Gray IS a jerk. He offered me a nickle to tickle his pickle. And boy did I tickle! For Free!

So is THAT what it takes to get Gray on projects? Hmmm...

So that's what I'm doing wrong!

I'm gonna get more men on my project than you, Kyle!

[Vilecat]

Ok, that's enough. I want Snap's cock, not that kinda stuff x.x;; (to tell the truth, it's kinda a hot cock )
Edit: Who edited my post? :?

I got a question that's more or less about the project right now. Will you make the name and CD artwork proposals publicly, or people will absolutely need to go on that -very dead- forum created a moth or so ago for that?

I'm mostly sure it won't be any time soon (more after the next deadline), but it's good to know in advance.

[Nicole Adams]

Well, okay can we not have this thread turn into the old one please? :?

[Kanjika]

Take it elsewhere you picklewankers!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Btw, Kanji, don't post anymore WIPs. message me to see why.

[Vilecat]

-_- ah ah ah, the edit on my post is soooo funny.

For project coordinators to act like kids doesn't give a lot of credibility to the project, and i think you know that. To joke around for a bit shouldn't be stopped, but please don't fall too far that way.

I nicely ask that you don't transform my posts by adding such comments anymore. You may in your own by quoting me if you like, but this was childish acting.

And i have a boyfriend already anyway. I do not feel the need for a Snapple cock, nor any other sort of cock. And those Snapple bottles are small imho, so for the rest... :roll: j/k

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Looks like you can't joke on the net anymore... Anyway, we stopped a long time ago.

[Vilecat]

EDIT - I understand that the joking has stopped and that the CD cover and name dicussion will be held in the other forums until KFC and Snapple decides it's time to make it a project focus.

My own edit : I appreciate the answer, although i'd like the person doing this to just post instead of always editing my own posts. If asked that way, i'll gladly delete mine immediatly afterwards to keep the subject on the project. Bla bla bla, i'm not doing it anymore, bla bla bla, this one's the last, etc.
Also it'd have kept me from posting 2 more times off-topic after the question i asked, with the edit incident. Stop doing that and i'll stop posting in the friggin thread if it what it takes you, geez =/ I can even erase all the posts i did in this thread if you're still not happy with all that.

[Antipode]

Yeah KFC, the bass on my speakers here is shot, and I realized I overcompensated when I first listened on headphones.
Whatever, I'll fix that up along with some of the distortion. About the guitar, I've still been considering what to do about that. I slapped slayer on there and yes that's a bad idea, but it's more a background line than anything...I might just use an entirely different instrument.

Oh one more thing, I notice I'm on both the "to be removed" and "tracklisting" lists, but it doesn't really matter to me as you just said I'm staying. And yes, I'm relieved. Good stuff, y'all - I look forward to hearing the arrangements.

[Ichitootah]

Hey, um... It says that cuts will soon be made with regard to the quality of work.

But there is still no listing of whether our work is good enough or not.

Can I expect one some time in the future?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I'd rather just me and Snapple tell you guys straight up. After some more work is done, then I'll send out pms to everyone about their tracks.

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

To all who may have been looking forward to what else I would've brought to the table; sorry. I was lazy and, for some reason, somewhat unmotivated. Also, I think a song of that detail/nature is both beyond my current skill level and requires more time than I was able to invest.

Good luck all!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

To all who may have been looking forward to what else I would've brought to the table; sorry. I was lazy and, for some reason, somewhat unmotivated. Also, I think a song of that detail/nature is both beyond my current skill level and requires more time than I was able to invest.

Good luck all!

No problem man, and thanks for showing concern :)

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Hey, what's the deal on Boss Music 1? Wasnt Haroon (ffmusicdj) going to do that one, did he drop?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

He was removed from the project for lack of any kind of concern or input. And lack of contact.

[SnappleMan]

He was removed from the project for lack of any kind of concern or input. And lack of contact.

Aye, good riddance.

[Hadyn]

I have holidays in a week, and will desperately try to get my shit together and finish my stuff then...

I've been trying to contact Ellywu2 for a while now - he added the cool drums to the piece, but hasn't sent the .flp back my way yet. It's been about a month now, hopefully he can send it my way soon ^^;

As for the other collabs, I'll have to see what happens... I should be able to work on them, but I don't really have any rock-solid ideas, and i'm not sure how the quality will turn out in the end. We'll have to see when I work on them next ^^

Oh, and Final Boss is still being a bitch - I've tried to optimize the way i'm mastering it as much as possible, but it still runs as slow as ever... It was a reasonable length anyways, maybe I can just throw an ending on and leave it at that... it's just a shame it's taking so much power just to edit it...

~Hadyn

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Try making everything else low priority in task manager.

[Metal Man88]

I know this might be somewhat off-topic, but I remember long ago that Snappleman made a WIP of a Doomsday Zone remix, but then never released that. Is that similar to what track he will be putting for Doomsday in this version.

Also sorry if non-project people aren't allowed in the topic. Just curious, since I've been wanting to see a Doomsday remix for a very long time.

If nothing else, I can say to keep up the good work. A shame I lack music remixing abilities, because my Soundblaster 2 NS Laptop would come quite in handy for that...

Anyway, just curious. I loved that WIP Snappleman made of Doomsday zone eons ago. As my name might suggest, I like heavy-metal esque stuff.

[SnappleMan]

Sorry to say, you'll be terribly dissapointed. :(

[KyleJCrb]

Yeah, Snapple was telling me that his new version of Doomsday will be nothing like his old one. Kinda dissappointing, actually. :(

[Rexy]

Mind you, we usually expect Snapple to come up with the good stuff, so don't be too disappointed if things don't quite go your way ;)

[Holy Warrior Azar]

There's always a chance it will be better than the previous vesrion, right?

Also, the suspense is killing me regarding the first boss music, who will be taking charge of that one?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Azar - Still looking..

[Metal Man88]

No big, really. I mean, at this point, as long as there is even one remix of the Doomsday Zone, I'm happy. Because I haven't seen an mp3 remix of it... ever.

[KyleJCrb]

No big, really. I mean, at this point, as long as there is even one remix of the Doomsday Zone, I'm happy. Because I haven't seen an mp3 remix of it... ever.

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=944

[Rexy]

Kyle, that's the final boss, not Doomsday :P

[KyleJCrb]

Kyle, that's the final boss, not Doomsday :P

Buh-wha...?


So it is...Hmmm. I guess that's what I get for not listening to it again to be sure. :P

[Bren]

I started a wip on first boss. Its not official that Im doing it for the project yet, just letting everyone know. I may or may not go someplace with it.

edit: some days later: Turns out it's going quite well and I will continue to work on this and death egg both for the project.

[Metal Man88]

Yeah, that's the thing. The Doomsday Zone is confused with the Final Boss theme a lot.

The difference is that the Doomsday Zone only appears in Knuckles's last fight and/or the 'Doomsday Zone', both of which are far less remembered than the Final Boss areas. Oh well.

[Chavous]

I'm gonna try to make a WIP of the first boss zone too....though this one is going to either get cut or not. I'm going to finish it. :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Do you have experiance?

[Bren]

Yeah, that's the thing. The Doomsday Zone is confused with the Final Boss theme a lot.

The difference is that the Doomsday Zone only appears in Knuckles's last fight and/or the 'Doomsday Zone', both of which are far less remembered than the Final Boss areas. Oh well.

I thought only Hyper Sonic went to Doomsday. If I remember correct, the game ends for Knuckles after he fights Robotnik on the surface of the death egg.

[KyleJCrb]

Yeah, that's the thing. The Doomsday Zone is confused with the Final Boss theme a lot.

The difference is that the Doomsday Zone only appears in Knuckles's last fight and/or the 'Doomsday Zone', both of which are far less remembered than the Final Boss areas. Oh well.

I thought only Hyper Sonic went to Doomsday. If I remember correct, the game ends for Knuckles after he fights Robotnik on the surface of the death egg.

For clarification:

Normal Sonic (and any form of Tails): Final battle is against the giant walking Egg Robot on the Death Egg. Final Boss is the song.

Super Sonic/Hyper Sonic: Final battle is Doomsday Zone, after the Death Egg battle mentioned above. Doomsday is the song.

Knuckles: Final battle against Super Metal Sonic in Sky Sanctuary (Knuckles never goes to Death Egg). Final Boss is the song.

[Rexy]

Knuckles: Final battle against Super Metal Sonic in Sky Sanctuary (Knuckles never goes to Death Egg). Final Boss is the song.
For your information that's a 2-part battle (and an awesome one nonetheless). First part has you fighting against normal Metal Sonic, just like you did at the end of Sky Sanc with Sonic/Tails/S&T, and that's where the Final Boss music is played. The second part has MS using the Master Emerald to charge into Super Metal Sonic, and you fight him with the Doomsday music running in the background.

Kyle, whatever happened to your Sonic knowledge these days? :)

[KyleJCrb]

Knuckles: Final battle against Super Metal Sonic in Sky Sanctuary (Knuckles never goes to Death Egg). Final Boss is the song.
For your information that's a 2-part battle (and an awesome one nonetheless). First part has you fighting against normal Metal Sonic, just like you did at the end of Sky Sanc with Sonic/Tails/S&T, and that's where the Final Boss music is played. The second part has MS using the Master Emerald to charge into Super Metal Sonic, and you fight him with the Doomsday music running in the background.

Kyle, whatever happened to your Sonic knowledge these days? :)

...Dang it! Doomsday DOES play in Knuckles' battle (I remembered the fact that it was a two-parter, but didn't think it was necessary to mention :P). Something kept telling me it didn't. Y'know, for someone with the goal to play and completely beat Sonic 3 & Knuckles every time I get another version of it somewhere (my cartridge, Sonic Mega Collection, and PC versions of the game are cleared with all 3 characters, and all with all 14 emeralds), you'd think I'd remember these things.

[Chavous]

Yes, KFC, I have experience, but yes, I am also relatively new. If you would like to check out one of my pieces, go here.

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4021

I also do well with strong comments to improve my music.

[Bren]

Knuckles: Final battle against Super Metal Sonic in Sky Sanctuary (Knuckles never goes to Death Egg). Final Boss is the song.
For your information that's a 2-part battle (and an awesome one nonetheless). First part has you fighting against normal Metal Sonic, just like you did at the end of Sky Sanc with Sonic/Tails/S&T, and that's where the Final Boss music is played. The second part has MS using the Master Emerald to charge into Super Metal Sonic, and you fight him with the Doomsday music running in the background.

Kyle, whatever happened to your Sonic knowledge these days? :)

...Dang it! Doomsday DOES play in Knuckles' battle (I remembered the fact that it was a two-parter, but didn't think it was necessary to mention :P). Something kept telling me it didn't. Y'know, for someone with the goal to play and completely beat Sonic 3 & Knuckles every time I get another version of it somewhere (my cartridge, Sonic Mega Collection, and PC versions of the game are cleared with all 3 characters, and all with all 14 emeralds), you'd think I'd remember these things.

Oh wow, you're right...wowzers, I need to play it again, just because I havent for over 8 years....yes, must play it again. I remember about 10 years or so ago, I used to play it day in and day out...beat the game several times and replayed it several times just because to me it never got boring...ah yes those were the days.

[Eon_Blue]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/pccover2.jpg

Just messing around right now.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Very interesting my man!

But where be sonic and knuckles :lol:

[Eon_Blue]

Haven't you heard? Subtlety is the cool thing to do.

Give me time.

[Dahlia]

The blue and red is very subtle, very classy. Nice work, at least for a prototype!

[Eon_Blue]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/pccover3.jpg

This one makes it a little more obvious.

[Dahlia]

Now I regret not having jumped onto this project when I first saw it, and all because of your awesome cover. XD

[Ichitootah]

Very professional looking, nice work. I'd almost prefer the more subtle version though, not sure why.

They both look good, but the one without the huge faces just looks so nice.

I realize that these are just prototypes, just makes me even more excited for the finals. :)

[KyleJCrb]

You know, with it on a cover like that, the name "Project Chaos" is actually pretty cool. :)

[carra]

Now that I read the Doomsday thing, I realized that DJ Nova's song is mistitled, since it's actually a remix of Final Boss. Oh, and now that I'm talking about this song I'll tell you 2 things Nova:

- I prefer it without congas ;)
- I like ot overall, but I find the transition from about 1:30 to 2:00 too slow.

And that cover looks quite nice.

[Blue Magic]

Whats up everyone,

I'm sorry if I'm extremely late on this, but do you guys have room for one more on this project?

I made a jazzy remix of the Lava Reef/ Hidden Palace Zone and release it over on VG Mix.
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4154
(Its actually doing quite well over there. Teir 1 :D )

Since I don't plan on submitting it here at OC, I figure it would be nice if it was included on your project for recongnition purposes.

If you guys don't want it, or if its too late, I understand.

Thanks

[Rexy]

I managed to listen to it Blue; sounds neat, I can tell you that, and I feel it's one of your better efforts IMO. I'll have a review done soon, I can assure you.

But in terms of getting it on the project, I think you're a little late. The tracks that are done for the project aren't meant to be released until it's finished. I think you've gone as far as devising music for it the wrong way round. :P

Mind you, if you want to join the project and have a stab at another source (and we desperately need someone for Boss 1!) I hope you'll be able to follow what the project coordinators are expecting.

Thanks for taking interest! ;)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Let me go over the song Blue :)

AND NICE COVER EON!

[Txai]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/pccover3.jpg

This one makes it a little more obvious.

Word.

[nesper]

song sounds really good blue...i think the ambient effects are good and add a really nice touch...some chill shit to sit back and get blowed up to. 8)

[Blue Magic]

Well thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

I wish I could help out and do "Boss 1" for you guys, but I'm starting a new job and don't think I'll be able to dedicate the amount of time needed to produce a good mix. But, since I will probably be starting sometime next week, I'll have a few days left to mess around. (If I'm in the zone, I sould finish it an about two to three days.)

If you guys can direct me to the original tune in MIDI format, I'll see what I can do, but like I said, I can't guarantee that it will be done in time unless I can come up with some ideas really quick.

[Rexy]

Well it would have been easier if you would have downloaded a plugin for Winamp that would play the original GYM file O.o Mind you, if it's a MIDI you're looking for there's one over here (http://www.espiokaos.com/midis/sk_sg_08.mid). I hope it helps out somewhat!

[Blue Magic]

Cool. This will be fine.

Thanks Rexy. I'll get started on it.

By the way, how much time do I have?

[Rexy]

They want the final WIPs in for July 1st, although knowing you you'd come up with solid stuff rather quickly :)

[Blue Magic]

They want the final WIPs in for July 1st, although knowing you you'd come up with solid stuff rather quickly :)

LOL...thanks Rexy.

Ok here we go:

I have been working on the "Boss 1" mix for about an hour now. And I realized that it had this James Bond feel to it (so I called "Sneak Attack"). I don't know if you guys will like it or not because of that, but anyway...

There is nothing too complex about it yet. I just want to know how you guys feel about it before I continue.

I am not able to make a direct link to the song, so you'll have to go to my page to check it out.

The link is in my sig.

[Dahlia]

I find it extremely unfair that Mr.Norman makes one bloody song with a simple chromatic pattern ascending and descending and now it's like the "James Bond" thing.

No fair! I say, "Nevermind James Bond! Just enjoy the music!"

My favorite part is from 0:20 - 0:40 when the new string part and the piano comes in.

(I'm a huge connoisseur of the Bond movies from the 60's to 90's, don't get me wrong. XD)

[Chavous]

I find it extremely unfair that Mr.Norman makes one bloody song with a simple chromatic pattern ascending and descending and now it's like the "James Bond" thing.

I know what you mean. I had a couple of my friends say the same thing. It's kinda aggrevating.

[Dahlia]

Tell them, "You know how many chromaticisms like that Chopin made?" :P

[SnappleMan]

Hey people! Tis been a long time since I've replied to this thread!

I've been busy workin on my songs!

Anyway, I've been getting work from everyone, and it's starting to sound better and better! I'm very impressed by how many of you have stepped up and are delivering the goods


Eon, that cover looks fantastic! A suggestion though, you should soften the lines on Sonic and Knuckles, blend em into the background a bit, have them in there, but be more subtle. And shit, project Chaos is sounding pretty damn cool. Who knows, we might keep it as the title.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Anyway, I've been getting work from everyone, and it's starting to sound better and better! I'm very impressed by how many of you have stepped up and are delivering the goods


And shit, project Chaos is sounding pretty damn cool. Who knows, we might keep it as the title.

I haven't been getting work from too much anyone, and Project Chaos would be a great choice lol. I thought it would fit the theme of the game, so that is why I thought of it.

EDIT - on the subject of Snapple, people are getting the misunderstanding that Snap took over the project. You couldn't be more wrong. Me and Snap are working as a duo. I'm no better than he is and vice versa. So before you go running to JUST snappleman about project issues, remember who started this and remember that you should talk to us BOTH, even if it means PMing us. I had 6 people ask me if Snapple too over the project, and that is just not true.

[SnappleMan]

By everyone I mean like, 4 people that I've had my doubts about, and DanB (who's really kickin ass on that Marble Garden track).


So yeah.

[Rexy]

Now that you mention all this, I'm just concerned over how far I've gone. i've sent my finished Competition Menu mix to KFC yet Snapple was still to get exposure to it; meanwhile with Angel Island he claimed that he'd fix the bass for me before I send off the finished mix in KFC's direction.

So I take that i'm roughly up to date? :)

[Blue Magic]

Hey, another question.

After reading Rexy's last post, I'm wondering, do we have to submit all of the finished songs to KFC or Snapple?

Or do we just post it in this forum??? :?

Help...

[Rexy]

I think it's one or both, but finished songs must NOT be exposed to the public before the project is released 8O

[Blue Magic]

Oh ok. Cool.

I'm almost done putting ideas together. I'll update soon.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I think it's one or both, but finished songs must NOT be exposed to the public before the project is released 8O


Think...? It's on the front page Rexy lol.

[Rexy]

If that's the case... yeah. Guess I'll need to send my Competition Menu mix to Snapple soon :P

And yeah... I think I was a bit sluggish when catching onto that o_o

[Blue Magic]

I think it's one or both, but finished songs must NOT be exposed to the public before the project is released 8O


Think...? It's on the front page Rexy lol.

Thats my bad. I don't usually read all the way through the threads before I post crazy questions. :oops:

*Just read it* In that case, KFC and Snapple, will you guys check out my WIP and tell me what you think?

I have the info on it posted somewhere on the previous page. (I think) :? It might have been the one before that. Its somewhere on the last two pages.

[phase cactus]

What I see here is begging off a really high-res version of that cover, getting it developed at costco as a digital picture, for high-res printing and color quality, and being the envy of all my gaming/music friends.

[Eon_Blue]

What I see here is begging off a really high-res version of that cover, getting it developed at costco as a digital picture, for high-res printing and color quality, and being the envy of all my gaming/music friends.

Quoted for the sake of my ego.

[jmr]

Great work Eon Blue! I'm impressed!
When I did the HH project art (actually, both me AND KFC made versions), I was given a few suggestions, and I guess it wouldn't hurt to pass them along:
...as far as printing's concerned, you're going to want to work with extremely high res files (and high DPI) to get a clean final product. Make sure, too, that you're working in CMYK colour, rather than RGB. RGB is subtractive colour - mix all colours and get white, whereas CMYK is additive - mix all colours and get black, which is how print works. You'll find as a reslt that CMYK doesn't have the vibrancy of RGB, but that's just how print media is ^^
I usually use 1000x1000 pixels for CD Labels. It works out just fine for me.[/quote]
Edit: That's 1000x1000 for the front/inside/disc cover, and 1284x1000 for the back.

[Blue Magic]

God Spammit!!!!!!!!!

I just got a message from my boss telling me that I have to start the orientation courses for my job tomorrow. (Now I damn sure wont be able to work on the Boss 1 remix.)

I'm really sorry guys. :cry:

But I still wanna try to get my "Project Blue" song on the project.

Yo KFC and Snapple, I will be sending you guys a PM with a link to my song in a minute (What I think is a final version). If there is anything that you want me to change, please PM or E-mail me and I'll try to make time to fix it.

Thanks

[Chavous]

Ya......um.....I can't work on the Boss 1 remix either. Not only does it take me a while to do remixing, but one of the mixes that did take a while to do just got put down majorly. I doubt I'll be much of a help to this project. Sorry.

[Rexy]

Aw, don't feel too bad because the Judges' Panel aren't too hot over your work. I mean, look... Hemophiliac and Red Omen have tracks on Kong in Concert and they didn't get past the judges; neither did Jayson Litro when sending his track from Hedgehog Heaven. And heck, I've also got more rejections than actual postings! :P

So just because the judges didn't like them doesn't mean that you're going to struggle with your effort. As far as we're concerned we really need the help over at this end of the field. ;)

Don't feel discouraged. There's still room to polish up your mix for a resub, and even if that doesn't happen you can still work hard on your efforts over here. We've all been down that path, I assure you.

[Dahlia]

Er... well, I like that small bit of melody in the Boss song. I could remix it, but I don't really know how long I could make it given the 28 second source material. I suppose I could make a smallish interlude track out of it. I haven't read the whole thread though, so I don't know if anybody else besides Blue Magic was already doing this.

Maybe I'll just cook up something and send it in.

[GrayLightning]

Ya......um.....I can't work on the Boss 1 remix either. Not only does it take me a while to do remixing, but one of the mixes that did take a while to do just got put down majorly. I doubt I'll be much of a help to this project. Sorry.

Nah it wasn't put down majorly. You do realize we reject a lot of mixers with years of mixing or music experience.

Your mix had some interesting concepts and arrangement ideas, some components were there, some where not. It needed a lot of work on several fronts.

So it was your third mix, it's a good start, and you need to keep it up. Music is a long endeavor, one that's hopefully worth it to you. But it's one that you need to constantly keep working on. There really is no substitute for experience. Keep at it and don't give up.

[Blue Magic]

Hey all,

I'm back again. I decided that I WILL try finish the Boss 1 mix after all. (It was haunting me all day at work)

In my opinion, I'm doing too well on it to just quit. So...you know.

I managed to stretch it out to about 1:30. (Even though I had to loop it.) Do you think that will be long enough, or do you guys want it to be longer?

I'll try to add more variation on it to keep things fresh.

And sorry about not being able to make up my mind. (excuse my Noobness) :oops:

[Hadyn]

1:30 seems very short, especially if it's just looping parts. I think you should aim to make it atleast a minute longer for it to really work out.

[Blue Magic]

Fo sho!!!

I will try to add some original stuff in there before I loop it back and see how it sounds.

[Sora]

yeah...school's ending and I don't have an ISP at my house anymore so I'll be off the internet for 3 months. O.o sorry Hadyn, I might be able to come on a couple times, but not long enough for us to get much stuff done. There's a slight chance I'll be back on, but I doubt we'll have anything done. (still talking to Hadyn) if you want, you can come up with enough stuff to pass the deadline and I'll be back by the next next deadline. (to KFC:) you can kick me off if you want or wait to see if I can come back to post stuff. And um... good luck.

[Rexy]

Sorry to see that had to happen Sora. :( I'm sure you'll be able to manage to visit the web sometime before the semester starts again, although your efforts were well thought out.

Blue: Yep... it's about time I came forth with my thoughts on your WIP ^^

Now I like the James Bond feel that has managed to come around this one. I think that has managed to add to a lighter chilled formation on that side of the mix, and I dig the direction that managed to come around it. Kudos on getting the record set up so far, and I appreciate much of the technical terms that came to it.

I understand how tough it is to be able to mix the theme given its restrictions in terms of length, but I think there needed to be a bit more granted to it. So far I found the arrangement to be really conservative; I was hoping for some expansions to match with the level of New Beginnings or A Warrior's Path, which is what I usually come to expect from you. But knowing you I feel you might be able to get that established later on in the mix.

I tell you what, sometimes it helps to look on remixes of other short themes and see how they got established to what they were. There were quite a few on Relics of the Chozo that did just that and still sounded slick (Premonition of Fell Purpose, Escaping Retribution and Unsettling Nature were a few of which that did just that), and much of the tracks for PRC 2-15 (you know, the Ghostbusters thing) also had their own specific techniques on broadening on a very short piece of music. Even the OneUps fleshed out their skills on a short piece of game music with "Isle de Kirby". Whichever happens, I'm sure you'll come up with your own strategy on how to make yours branch out.

Nonetheless, best of luck with the rest of your mix! :D

[Cyan]

Wtf. A S3&K Remix project ...

I was looking around on the forums, and found this just recently. I'm very interested in this project and hope I can do something for you.

Actually, I have been working on a remix of Sandopolis, not knowing anything about the project. (To bad that so many good remixers already are working on that track...)

I don't know what you think about new people to join the project this late ... but if you're interested I can come up with some songs on "Boss 1", (which was apparently marked as free att the front page), "Death egg" and "Hidden Palace".

[Hetcenus]

I found a studio yesterday where I could record my piano mix, so anybody who had to hear it won't have to worry anymore about the sound quality. It's a little expensive to use it, though, so I'm now looking for a software like the one I saw there. I believe it's a MIDI editor, but, unlike mine, this one allows changing dynamics and exporting to WAV. But that one is for Macintosh, and I'm looking for one for Windows. If anybody know anything that could help, just reply here:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=59339

If I can't get what I need, I guess I'll just pay :cry: and use the studio...

[Hadyn]

yeah...school's ending and I don't have an ISP at my house anymore so I'll be off the internet for 3 months. O.o sorry Hadyn, I might be able to come on a couple times, but not long enough for us to get much stuff done. There's a slight chance I'll be back on, but I doubt we'll have anything done. (still talking to Hadyn) if you want, you can come up with enough stuff to pass the deadline and I'll be back by the next next deadline. (to KFC:) you can kick me off if you want or wait to see if I can come back to post stuff. And um... good luck.

I'll see what I can do... but I'm being a little held up with my other projects right now... Ellywu still hasn't gotten back to me with the flp files on the Carnival Night collab, and I'm still putting off work on my final boss theme because:

a. computer's sluggish, and
b. Snapps will probably do something better :P

I'll try, but we might not be able to do this one after all ^^;

[GoldenYoshi]

Hmm... I'm thinking of going along for the ride here.

Considering either Azure Lake, or Endless Mine. (Or even both, if that's allowed. :P)

I'll get started on some stuff soon.

[Bren]

Er... well, I like that small bit of melody in the Boss song. I could remix it, but I don't really know how long I could make it given the 28 second source material. I suppose I could make a smallish interlude track out of it. I haven't read the whole thread though, so I don't know if anybody else besides Blue Magic was already doing this.

Maybe I'll just cook up something and send it in.

To answer your curiosity, yes. I stated quite a few pages back I started working on a Boss 1 remix...I'm not sure how many people are working on it currently, considering alot of people have been quiet lately.

[Rexy]

I found a studio yesterday where I could record my piano mix, so anybody who had to hear it won't have to worry anymore about the sound quality. It's a little expensive to use it, though, so I'm now looking for a software like the one I saw there. I believe it's a MIDI editor, but, unlike mine, this one allows changing dynamics and exporting to WAV. But that one is for Macintosh, and I'm looking for one for Windows. If anybody know anything that could help, just reply here:
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=59339

If I can't get what I need, I guess I'll just pay :cry: and use the studio...

How much does it cost? There's no need to panic too much about donating a bit of cash for doing a remix, i assure you. :)

In terms of studio software for Windows, I think Cubase is a good program to use. I'm not sure if there's any demos of it online but I use it rather frequently in encoding my own piano works. ;)

[jmr]

Considering either Azure Lake, or Endless Mine. (Or even both, if that's allowed. :P)
I'll get started on some stuff soon.
Rayza's doing Azure Lake, and I'm doing Endless Mine... However, neither of these tracks are locked.

By the way, are you the same Golden Yoshi (http://board.acmlm.org/profile.php?id=241) that posts on Acmlm's Board? I'm 'JefF' there... (crappy user name, i know!)

[krispy]

Give me the midi and Ill make you a rendering with my equipment.

[GoldenYoshi]

By the way, are you the same Golden Yoshi (http://board.acmlm.org/profile.php?id=241) that posts on Acmlm's Board? I'm 'JefF' there... (crappy user name, i know!)

There's someone else out there with my old name? (No, that isn't me.)

[Hetcenus]

How much does it cost? There's no need to panic too much about donating a bit of cash for doing a remix, i assure you. :)

The big problem is not about this song, but having to use the studio every time I want to record any remix, since I'm slowly getting experience as time goes by (and I hope I start composing more too), even though I got lots of university things to do. If I could do it at home, I bet it would give much less headache.

[Chavous]

You know, the boss 1 remix started out with nobody on it, but now there is like four people working on a mix. Including me. Ya, I decided to try again. Thanx for the encouragement guys :D . This time, I'm taking a different approach, though. Hope you guys like it (not finished yet or posted anywhere).

[Bren]

You know, the boss 1 remix started out with nobody on it, but now there is like four people working on a mix. Including me. Ya, I decided to try again. Thanx for the encouragement guys :D . This time, I'm taking a different approach, though. Hope you guys like it (not finished yet or posted anywhere).

Actually, it was originally FFMusicDJ's job to mix Boss 1, and I assume because of lack of activity, he was kicked off the project. That's why its now labeled as *free*


edit: Umm...has anyone seen kfc anywhere recently?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Dude to family issues, I will not be on the computer for "X" ammount of days. Be back as soon as I can.

[SnappleMan]

Hah.... Dude

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Correction, I wont be here 'as" frequently, but I will be here.

[Sora]

same with me. I just won't be on for long enough to to talk to Hadyn about the collab. (but he can send me a .flp from time to time and I'll give him feedback)
edit: and yes, Hadyn I know you can't get to it and it's okay. :wink:

[Hadyn]

Damnit, I want to finish my collab with Ellywu2 before I move onto the other collabs, but I haven't heard from him in like, a month :(

[analoq]

you know, i'm not gonna have anything for the next deadline.
i've been working fulltime and have enough work to deal with at home --
i have to be selective with my time and i haven't been able to give this project priority.

i'm not so much 'quitting' on this project as i am saying the guys in charge will probably have no choice but to drop me in the near future.

my apologies...

[Sora]

awwwwww I was really looking forward to your stuff (as always :cry: )

[jmr]

i'm not so much 'quitting' on this project as i am saying the guys in charge will probably have no choice but to drop me in the near future.I'm a little dissapointed as well... but hey, even if you don't get on the project, you can still release the song...

[GaMeBoX]

just wanted to say that im alive and i have a pre-finished-wip done... im gonna have to email it or send it at a specific time because i dont have internet at home yet, and it can take up to 4-8 weeks.... anyways, my mail is: djdolber @ gmail . com someone should email me and inform me to what email i should send the wip if im not allowed to upload it on vgmix.... ill be checkin in again later on this mounth... otherwise well have to set up a time when im online to send it through msn or icq....

[GeckoYamori]

SnappleMan ought to get MSN.

[jmr]

SnappleMan ought to get MSN.Agreed. I'm not that fond of AIM.

[TenchuX]

This looks like its going to be a very cool bunch of songs. 8O

[Beatdrop]

Whoa, holy jesus. I missed the part where I was being called stubborn and an elitist prick. What Snapple Man failed to mention is the main reason I saw it fit to just drop out of this project entirely. I currently have so many things to do, musically and otherwise, that I didn't see any reason to bother competing with someone over a song when the end result could have been that I wasted my time on something with relatively low importance. As it stands, I'm working a full-time job; I'm in the Delayed Entry Program for the U.S. Navy; I'm working on music for an arcade game; I have TWO albums in the works, one of which is two discs; I'm trying to come up with a rock-solid remix to make my long-overdue reappearance on OCR; and all the while I'm also trying to fit in time to have something that remotely resembles a social life. So from where I was standing, it seemed like a much better time to devote my time to things that I KNEW would make a difference in some manner.

I'm still going to finish the remix, I'm just not doing it for this project. And even then, it'll still be months before I have it completed. I'm confident that Hatchet will turn out something great in my stead, especially without having to worry about me competing with him.

So there you have it.

[Claado Shou]

Whoa, holy jesus. I missed the part where I was being called stubborn and an elitist prick. What Snapple Man failed to mention is the main reason I saw it fit to just drop out of this project entirely. I currently have so many things to do, musically and otherwise, that I didn't see any reason to bother competing with someone over a song when the end result could have been that I wasted my time on something with relatively low importance. As it stands, I'm working a full-time job; I'm in the Delayed Entry Program for the U.S. Navy; I'm working on music for an arcade game; I have TWO albums in the works, one of which is two discs; I'm trying to come up with a rock-solid remix to make my long-overdue reappearance on OCR; and all the while I'm also trying to fit in time to have something that remotely resembles a social life. So from where I was standing, it seemed like a much better time to devote my time to things that I KNEW would make a difference in some manner.

I'm still going to finish the remix, I'm just not doing it for this project. And even then, it'll still be months before I have it completed. I'm confident that Hatchet will turn out something great in my stead, especially without having to worry about me competing with him.

So there you have it.

That's really cool. When do you leave for Basic Training (boot camp)? What's your rating?

[Dahlia]

Whoa, holy jesus. I missed the part where I was being called stubborn and an elitist prick. What Snapple Man failed to mention is the main reason I saw it fit to just drop out of this project entirely. I currently have so many things to do, musically and otherwise, that I didn't see any reason to bother competing with someone over a song when the end result could have been that I wasted my time on something with relatively low importance. As it stands, I'm working a full-time job; I'm in the Delayed Entry Program for the U.S. Navy; I'm working on music for an arcade game; I have TWO albums in the works, one of which is two discs; I'm trying to come up with a rock-solid remix to make my long-overdue reappearance on OCR; and all the while I'm also trying to fit in time to have something that remotely resembles a social life. So from where I was standing, it seemed like a much better time to devote my time to things that I KNEW would make a difference in some manner.

I'm still going to finish the remix, I'm just not doing it for this project. And even then, it'll still be months before I have it completed. I'm confident that Hatchet will turn out something great in my stead, especially without having to worry about me competing with him.

So there you have it.

I really know where you're coming from. I think the decision you made considering your circumstances was the most mature and logical thing you could have done. Good luck with all the great stuff going on in your life!

[Beatdrop]

That's really cool. When do you leave for Basic Training (boot camp)? What's your rating?

December 28th, 2005. I'm a Cryptologic Technician (Collective), or CTR. I'm hoping for a CTI position to open up before then, which is the Interpretive aspect of Cryptology.

In the meantime, I'm working for Amazon.com. Go me.

[GoldenYoshi]

Dang Beatdrop. You sure get around.

I understand where you're coming from with this. It makes sense to drop something of lowest priority.

So... about 1 week until WIPs are due, I guess. :/