Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos - History

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Hello and welcome to
"projekt chaos" THE SONIC 3 & KNUCKLES REMIX PROJECT

Project Director - KungFuChicken!
Co Director - SnappleMan

Second W.I.P Deadline "May 22,2005"

Hello Again! KungFuChicken(or SithLordAku, whatever) here. We have completed the first deadline(which established who was serious about this project). But now we are moving into the second deadline. This is where all the playing stops and we get things going into high gear. By the time this second dealine hits, I expect high quality remixes(very near complete/complete). I'm talking remixes that show we gave it our all.
The main focus of this period in the projects progression is TEAMWORK. This isn't a project about one paticulay person. This damn sure aint about this nigga ;). No, this is OUR project. For the people, by the people. And in our project, we should give the best crtique we can to each other. How are you going to win if you don't give your teammates advice?
I have set up a Quality Control section. This insures that you know where you stand in getting up to standards. It's this simple; "Of Quality' means that you are working with something really good that is more or less up to standards with what I expect. "Neutral" means that while is surely isn't bad, it can use a bit of work before it gets on the "quality" side of things expected. "In the RED" means that I don't see the song getting on the project in it's current condition. Any "In the RED" songs left by the end of the second deadline will sadly have to be excluded from the project. But hopefully, all the songs will be of quality by then!

THANKS to all involved with this project.
Special Thanks to GrayLightning, Snappleman, Xelebes, Rayza, Ritcher, hobo, and Liontamer.
But the biggest thanks I have to give is to DarkeSword. Despite being busy, and me bothering him (or so it seemed) he still helped me alot (indirectly or not). And if it wasn't for him, NONE OF THIS would be going on. There would be no project. In a way, he is like Co-Director.
Thanks.

After thinking about it for a long time, there will be no WIP links posted on the from page. If you want the links, you can ask the mixer personally or find them for yourself. OH, and the project name right now is a temp. It's a code name. It will NOT be the name of the final project.

Data Select - claimed by KungFuChicken!*
Angel Island Zone - claimed by Rexy*
Hydrocity - claimed by yoshi_84 and Gman(collab)*/or Xenon Odyssey*/or AkumajoBelmont*
Marble Garden - claimed by KungFuChicken!(pending)
Carnival Night - claimed by Less Ashamed Of Self*
Icecap - claimed GaMeBoX*/or analoq*/or Kanjika/or Sir Nuts(maybe)
Launch Base - claimed by GeckoYamori*
Mushroom Hill - claimed by GaMeBoX*
Flying Battery - claimed by Beatdrop*
Sandopolis - claimed by DarkeSword*
Lava Reef - claimed by GaMeBoX*
Hidden Palace - claimed by Sir Nuts(with a classified collab partner)* /or Joker*
Sky Santuary - claimed by nesper*/or Sora*/or Kanjika*/or Upthorn*
Death Egg - claimed by DJBren*
Boss 1 (S&K version) - claimed by ffmusicdj*/or General Slicer*
Boss 2 - claimed by Sir Nuts*
Doomsday - claimed by Joker*/or UltimateSonicFan*/ SnappleMan
Final Boss - claimed by Hadyn*/or DjNova*/SnappleMan
Ending Credits(S3 version) - claimed by Rayza*/or Kanjika*/or Sora*
Special Stage - claimed by DCT*
Competition Menu - claimed by nesper*/or antipode*
Azure Lake Competition - claimed by Rayza*
Balloon Park Competition - claimed by Ichitootah*
Chrome Gadget Competition - claimed by Hetcenus*
Endless Mine Competition - claimed by jeffreymroberts*/or Siamey*
Desert Palace Competition - claimed by IcyGuy*


other mixers announced to appear on the project: housethegrate, zyko, ellywu.

Quality Control(this will update as I relisten to songs):
Of Quality for the Project -
DarkeSword - Sandopolis(could use a slight volume level increase and the synths could be played with a little more, but smooth).
Rexy - Angel Island Zone(I feel the drums could be beefed up more and all the sounds could use a bump up in quality, but nice work so far)
GaMeBoX - Mushroom Hill(Not too much now, but the display you showed me is very nice indeed. You are doing the song justice so far.)
AkumajoBelmont - Hydrocity(Nice disco feel you put on the song. It needs better variation on the original song melody, and the synth used could have some effects, panning, ect., but you are on the right track. The voices are distracting, and should be reconsidered on done less distracting. And it takes too long for the original to kick in.)
analoq - Icecap(:D)
Beatdrop - Flying Battery(Some obvious sound issues, but I know you will improve them, and the song is already rocking out.)
Kanjika - Sky Santuary(I think the arrangment can be smoother, but nice work so far.)
Hadyn - Final Boss(The volume and EQ can be worked on a bit moreand the ending is nonexsistant, but this is a very nice remix, and your best work so far IMO.)
Sir Nuts - Hidden Palace(I'm digging most of this already. I feel that the synths could be improved with more effects to make it sound cooler, and the arrangement could be a bit tighter (but it's good now) and the volumes could be balanced more to make it cound less messy, but it's awesome, and that piano is going to be awesome when Me and You know who comes in.)
Neutral (needs a bit of work to get up to quality standards) -
Rayza - Ending Credits(S3 version)(Just needs more is all.)
jeffreymroberts - Endless Mine Competition(Needs a sound upgrade on the synths and whatnot, bonus theme is out of place.)
GaMeBoX - Icecap(very decent remix, it just needs more, it sounds bare.)
Rayza - Azure Lake Competition(The arrangent and idea expressed are cool, but they can all be made much better than what is displayed. The synths can be much more interesting by adding effects, panning, EQ, ect.)
Ichitootah - Balloon Park Competition(So close to being up to quality in my book. I feel that the drums that do come in are a bit too over powering. I also feel that a groove or some drums would make this sounds better instead of them popping up twice for a short time. Try to play with the panning a little more as well.)
GaMeBoX - Lava Reef(I feel it needs some work in the EQ department on most everything, but the ideas you have right now are on the right track. I suggest you add some live guitar.)
Hetcenus - Chrome Gadget(SOUND QUALITY I TELL YOU!!!, and it sucks too, cause I REALLY like it.)
ffmusicdj - Boss 1(needs more.)
Kanjika - Credits(This is really great, although the style is of a surprise for this track. I think a more expanded upgraded arrangement is due. Needs more.)
Yoshi and Gman - Hydrocity(needs more, but the strings don't fit to me)
nesper - Competition Menu(Needs more arrangement, it's fairly repetitve, but the sounds aren't too bad, and you will be rapping over it soon. The Hayeah is so funny to me.)
In the RED (needs a LOT of work) -
Icy Guy - (I need way more than what you gave me, it hasn't set any foundation yet)
DjNova - FinalBoss(Alot of stuff seems offkey, the drums aren't really much, and the arrangment needs to be rethought, and some of the sounds are mediocre and sound very default FLish.)
DJBren - Death Egg(All of the arrangement and sounds can be improved. I suggest you start the song over.)
UltimateSonicFan - Doomsday(All the sounds are pretty crappy. That sax is HORRIBLE, and the drum thing you did was really strung out. Everything else was just messy. Start over.)
nesper - Sky Santuary(I was liking it ok till I heard a few off key notes and that horrible sax. Well, the sax isn't really bad, but it clashes with the feel like so bad. Try again.)




**All other tracks will not be used**

Voting Info
***THE VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER ALL THE TRACKS ARE COMPLETED. STOP ASKING.*** Also, as of now, no more new people.(unless you ask and I approve you.)

Please Mixers, Send songs that you think are 100% complete to ME. Do not post them in this thread. -NO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT NAME IN THIS THREAD TAKE THE DISCUSSION HERE: http://ocrp.kazorum.com/ocrp.html -
Have fun' - SithLordAku
Click Here for the CORRECT Sonic 3 and Knuckles GYM files. (http://www.rayza.net/misc/SONIC3+K.rar)

[Zeality]

Good luck, nukkas.

[Ruth Loose]

We have done Donkey Kong, Sonic 2, Super Metroid...
let's do Streets of Rage II or how about something even more smashing like Super Mario Bros. 3...

[EdgeCrusher]

This is about as exciting as a final fantasy remix project. Really. Exciting. I swear.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

We have done Donkey Kong, Sonic 2, Super Metroid...
let's do Streets of Rage II or how about something even more smashing like Super Mario Bros. 3...

That had nothing to do with THIS project. Please refrain from straying away the topic.

[DarkeSword]

As much as I love S3&K, it's simply too soon after the Sonic 2 project to be starting this. Also, you have no mixers lined up right now. Recruit first, generate serious interest, get some names, and wait. The timing is not good right now, so soon after the official release of a project, especially of a project in the same series of games.

[EDIT]

After initiating discussion with sithlord-aku, I have decided to reopen this thread, due to an interest shown by mixers in the community. I am still opposed to the timing of this project; however, because the interest is there, it seems viable for the time being.

Unlock, leave.

[Zeality]

Lies. I overpowered you in a magnificent battle in the stratosphere, and acquired your mod status long enough to unlock.

[DJ_Aquagenesis]

Sonic 2 remix project was the damn jump off. i cant wait for this one to come out.

[The G-Man]

Here's hoping this turns out as well as the Sonic 2 one did. You know what they say, "Strike while the iron's still hot." Good luck to rounding up all the help.

[Xerol Oplan]

I've sooooo been wanting to do a Lava Reef piano remix for a while now. Count me in.

Is there any particular theme that the project is going to be going for as a whole?

[DarkeSword]

Lies. I overpowered you in a magnificent battle in the stratosphere, and acquired your mod status long enough to unlock.

SHH

[Hadyn]

It's spelt "Hadyn" - I know, my parents can't spell too good... :P

Oh, and yeah. I herby proclaim Lava Reef as mine. ^^

Edit: oh crap, someone already claimed it.

Well then, i'll take... let me get back to you on that one. *goes to listen to the ost*

[The Instrument of GAWD]

You forgot a few short but deccent tracks:

http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/invincib.mid
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/knuckles.mid
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/noway.mid

[Hadyn]

Two questions:

Is this the end-boss theme: http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/s3finalboss.mid ?

And if so, can I take it?

If not, then I'll take Azure Lake :)

[Xerol Oplan]

It's spelt "Hadyn" - I know, my parents can't spell too good... :P

Oh, and yeah. I herby proclaim Lava Reef as mine. ^^

Edit: oh crap, someone already claimed it.

Well then, i'll take... let me get back to you on that one. *goes to listen to the ost*

Well, if you want to collab, we can share it. I'm not sure about the timeframe that this project's going to take on, so I'm not even sure if I'll be able to get it done if it's a very short timeframe. Hopefully it won't be as long as the S2 project, but I don't want it to be like 3 weeks long either.

[Hadyn]

It's spelt "Hadyn" - I know, my parents can't spell too good... :P

Oh, and yeah. I herby proclaim Lava Reef as mine. ^^

Edit: oh crap, someone already claimed it.

Well then, i'll take... let me get back to you on that one. *goes to listen to the ost*

Well, if you want to collab, we can share it. I'm not sure about the timeframe that this project's going to take on, so I'm not even sure if I'll be able to get it done if it's a very short timeframe. Hopefully it won't be as long as the S2 project, but I don't want it to be like 3 weeks long either.

sithlord himself said "There is no need to rush at all, time makes things better in my opinion.", so there should be plenty of time. I'll let you take the track yourself though - you claimed it first, and I think i'd rather hear a piano version of it than whatever i'd make ^^

[Nicole Adams]

*snatches Hydrocity*

Yes, please put me down for that track, sithlord-aku. I'll be remixing act 2 of that zone. That particular song will be kinda tough, me thinks, but I'll see what I can do. :) Finals are in a week so hopefully I'll be able to produce a wip during spring break.

[The Joker]

Yeah, I reiterate (haha DJ Pretzel you will rue the day you left out the re in your iteration thingy dill) my stance that I'm in... though I have no idea which song I want to call. So, yeah, there you go.

[Rexy]

hm, well if this project goes ahead I wouldn't mind having a stab at the Angel Island Zone theme :)
And yeah, it did feel rather soon after the Sonic 2 remix project, but whichever happens it'll be interesting to see how far it could go ;)

[Bren]

Keep your gleamy paws off death egg! Not that im participating in this project or anything...but Im currently working on a remix of it...Ah hell, dont these projects do remixes that have already been done anyway? Damnit to hell!

[hobo]

I can't mix (yet...) but I would be happy to help in any way I can. I don't want to see this project shot down...

[GeckoYamori]

Don't touch SoR2 :/

[Hadyn]

Don't touch SoR2 :/

What's SoR got to do with this?

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Anybody mind if I attempt "Sky Sanctuary"? I can only really come up with a midi so I dont want to claim it if someone else does but I would like to give it a try. Maybe by the time it's due I'll be able to convert it to another program that isnt midi.

[Nineko]

S3&K has one of my favourite soundtracks ever, simply LOVING some of those tunes. you know that I am not very good at remixing so it's better that I remix nothing, but I must encourage this project and if you think I can do something for you just tell me.

but, why mods don't move this thread to the project section?

[hobo]

The project needs to establish itself first.

[Murmeli Walan]

Someone please get analoq on board for this.

[Hetcenus]

Since everybody is taking the songs, I would like to get one too. Let me try Chrome Gadget, OK?

And I think we forgot a track on the list. Since Lava Reef Zone has two very different OST's (and the LRZ Act 2 is exactly like Hidden Palace Zone), we should consider two tracks for them.

[Hadyn]

Someone please get analoq on board for this.

Haha, I already suggested to sithlord-aku that he try and recruit analoq :P

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

iNDEED. I am trying to get analoq on the shit. He seems to eb showing intrest. Only time will tell. For now, I'm updating the first post :wink:

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Two questions:

Is this the end-boss theme: http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/s3finalboss.mid ?

And if so, can I take it?

If not, then I'll take Azure Lake :)

Yeah, that would be Doomsday pt2 (aka zone 2 aka final boss aka ... yeah)

[hobo]

Is Richter gonna get involved? Lol.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I'm guessing he is going to do a remix on it. I talked to him about it. But I'd really want him to design the site for me, but that's not till way later.

[supremespleen]

This looks like it will be awesome.
Someone get Analoq.
x)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Oh, almost forgot- BANNING ICE CAP.









jus playing. As for the Lava Reef Zone, My decesion of keeping them as one track stands.

[UncleSporky]

I'm interested in this, but not much of a remixer yet...though this could be my big break. :)

You forgot a track, too...the "competition over" music.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I didn't forget it, I'm leaving it off. We have quite a few tracks as it is.

[UncleSporky]

K, sorry. :) Can I temporarily claim Desert Palace Competition? I have to say that I fully don't expect anything I do to be worthwhile, but if I try hard enough, I might surprise myself.

EDIT: The Zophar GYM is wrong about this. Desert Palace and Chrome Gadget are switched. I want the real Desert one.

[GeckoYamori]

I don't have my hopes set high for this, I'm with darkeSword. I'm reserving Launch Base though just in case. This could potentially take even longer than the Sonic 2 project.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I don't have my hopes set high for this, I'm with darkeSword. I'm reserving Launch Base though just in case. This could potentially take even longer than the Sonic 2 project.

Thanks BUDDY... :?

Anyway, please, stop downing this. As for taking longer, so what? What's the rush man? Be cool, and this should be a smooth ride.

[richter]

Is Richter gonna get involved? Lol.I'm guessing he is going to do a remix on it. I talked to him about it. But I'd really want him to design the site for me, but that's not till way later.
Hey guys :D Thanks for thinking of me...

I love these projects (obviously). Yeah, it's really quite early to be launching imo, but sithlord seems really dedicated and the excitement in the community is undeniable. Especially with folks like Sir Nuts, Rayza, Hadyn, Joker, DarkeSword, Beatdrop... did I miss someone? Phew though, that's impressive by itself. So looks like it could definitely be successful.

I'm happy to help in any way I can (if not remixing, then yes site design down the road). Sith, I'll hit you up on ICQ soon. In the meantime, good luck everyone!

[Firedrake]

Will these remixes include the original boss tunes from Sonic 3 or only those from Sonic & Knuckles?

[Zeality]

SHould go both. Knuckle's old theme and his new need remixing.

[hobo]

I'm really looking forward to this... S3+K is one of my favorite games ever.
This project already has a nice line up of mixers... I hope it succeeds.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Will these remixes include the original boss tunes from Sonic 3 or only those from Sonic & Knuckles?

I'm just using the boss themes in the GYM. Boss 1 and 2.

As for knuckles, I decided not to use his theme because it's minimal. But if enough people really want to have kunckles theme on this, I may consider having it on. but I feel 25 tracks it enough.


GALD TO SEE RICHTER!!!!! Yeah, just hit me up on icq man.

[UncleSporky]

Can we suggest possible styles for remixes? Because Carnival Night would be amazing as a series of crazy breakbeats made up of random sound effects. It sounds like Stomp or something with a little melody.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Up to the remixer what style they want to do. But please, mixers, don't over do the techno. Exceptions for Sir Nuts. :wink: I have this interesting idea to have the soundtrack be in like a radioshow like layout. More on that later.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Up to the remixer what style they want to do. But please, mixers, don't over do the techno. Exceptions for Sir Nuts. :wink: I have this interesting idea to have the soundtrack be in like a radioshow like layout. More on that later.

Dont worry, I'm doing a hard rocking version of Sky Sanctuary, although it will just be a midi for the time being, unless I can afford Fruity Loops or Reason in the next month or two. Is it at all possible if I complete the arrangement as a midi for someone to resequence it with better samples?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I can do it. After you finish.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

I can do it. After you finish.

Tubular. :D I'll get right to work!

[hobo]

Dont worry, I'm doing a hard rocking version of Sky Sanctuary,

Can't wait to hear that one!

[Rexy]

don't over do the techno
Bleh, I suck at techno, so there's no way you're getting squealing synths from me :P

[PlatformerMastah]

I'm really eager to see this project finished. :D I just hope it doesn't take as long as Hedgehog Heaven did. :P

[Xerol Oplan]

Just getting started, but it's something: http://www.lggaming.com/user/xerol/songs/s3_lavareef_piano.mp3

[jmr]

I think I'd like to try my hand at one of these tracks. Put me down for 'Endless Mine'.

[Bren]

Ah..what the hell...give me a temp spot on death egg and Ill wait and see what other mixes will sound like and decide then if I want to be a part of this.

[Rexy]

As far as I'm concerned it may take several weeks before I could provide a WIP due to Easter break, but I hope to make a good start. Hope this wouldn't panic anyone ;)

[Xerol Oplan]

Oh, by the way, this is just a temporary UN change for Monday...put me down as Xerol from now on, okay?

[Hemophiliac]

Yea i'd so love to do Ice Cap zone, in my semi-orchestral/choral style. However, i've got myself tied up with finalizing my track for the doom project (just picked it up not long ago). I'd really like to participate in this project though. For now i'd be interested in collabing on it maybe, or just being put down to pick up any tracks that people drop, kinda like a backup mixer or something.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Rexy, take all the time you need.
Hemo, I'll put you down as a back up.
Xerol it is.
jeff and DJBren, welcome to the camp.
Xerol, I think this is going to end up sounding boss!

[EnzoBot]

I'm eager to hear this project come together. Sonic 3/ & Knuckles are my favorite sonic games and one of my favorite soundtracks ever.

yoshi_84, please do Hydrocity the justice it deserves! :D

Good luck guys.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

analoq is now on the project. joy. :D

[Xerol Oplan]

Xerol, I think this is going to end up sounding boss!

:?:

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Xerol, I think this is going to end up sounding boss!

:?:

LMAO. :roll:

Good man, good.

Boss = Good

[Xenon Odyssey]

I think we should have done a Mario project or something, instead of jumping from Sonic 2 to Sonic 3+Knuckles. But that's just my opinion; take it or leave it. What will happen after this? Someone to do the original Sonic the Hedgehog?

If I ever get any music software besides the damn free edition of FruityLoops that I used to make my craptacular remix that didn't make it on Hedgehog Heaven, then I'd participate. But, only time will tell if that happens. Hopefully soon. I'd love to make IceCap into something nobody's ever hear before (because I, quite frankly, am sick of the techno the song gets.)

My tree-fiddy for the hour. Have fun with it.

[DJ Nova]

http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/s3_credits.mid

Is this "Ending"? Because I might want to remix this.

Or else maybe Doomsday pt 2 (I know it has already been claimed, but just in case :wink: )

I'll try some stuff and see if can make anything of eitehr one of these tracks...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/s3_credits.mid

Is this "Ending"? Because I might want to remix this.

Or else maybe Doomsday pt 2 (I know it has already been claimed, but just in case :wink: )

I'll try some stuff and see if can make anything of eitehr one of these tracks...

Yes, that is "Ending".

[RoeTaKa]

Alright I decided to get on board with this project for the Marble Garden track. Will be working hard on it in time to come. Cheers Sith.

[hobo]

I think we should have done a Mario project or something, instead of jumping from Sonic 2 to Sonic 3+Knuckles.

I think it's a good idea. People have been crying out for S3+K for ages.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I think we should have done a Mario project or something, instead of jumping from Sonic 2 to Sonic 3+Knuckles.

I think it's a good idea. People have been crying out for S3+K for ages.

I have been set on doing this project before I started remixing. I WANT THIS. Plus, we all know Mario is slow and Sonic can lap him 20 times. ggs.

[Rayza]

All the good stuff been claimed already huh.. I get the pick of the fat kids and geeks.. Hmm..

Also I thought a SF2 project would be neat, but theres already a bunch of pro albums out there.. I think..

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

All the good stuff been claimed already huh.. I get the pick of the fat kids and geeks.. Hmm..

Also I thought a SF2 project would be neat, but theres already a bunch of pro albums out there.. I think..

Dude, you can pick any track you want. There will just be a vote. I always wanted to see a Competition remix from you. Or Mushroom Hill. Or Carnival Night!!!!!! WOOO!!!

[GeckoYamori]

I'll share Launch Base with you ;)

[ellywu2]

if you need someone to do it, i can do ice cap....
well, someone has to.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

analoq has ice cap. unless you want to try to compete with him lol.

[ellywu2]

lol nope.

[PlatformerMastah]

To the guy who's doing an Endless Mine remix, make it awesome. :lol: The original is really good, and I'd love to hear a great remix of it.

[Rayza]

Also sithlord-aku, if you need any help with anything I'll try my best to help. I've always liked the Sonic 3 music the best so I'm all on board for this project..

[Rayza]

On another note, I claimed Azure Lake and Ending (end 1.gym) I'm guessing End 2.gym is from Knuckles cuz I don't really recognize it but i'll try to incorporate both of them..

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Welcome to the team my man! 8)

[Nineko]

my favourite tracks?
super sonic's theme (in S&K)
azure lake (the competition)
flying battery
mushroom hill (act 2)
sky sanctuary

[GaMeBoX]

ill take mushroom hill if its available !

got some mixes on vgmix if you wanna check me up
this is the latest:
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3611


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[DCT]

Another Sonic remix project...I never get tired of these things. :)

sithlord, I noticed you claimed Carnival Night. Maybe I'll try that one too, in the interest of 'friendly competition.' :wink:

-DCT

[jmr]

To the guy who's doing an Endless Mine remix, make it awesome. :lol: The original is really good, and I'd love to hear a great remix of it.
I love the original as well. I'll do my best!

[DarkeSword]

Christ, I come back today to find three pages of degeneration into bullshittery. The thread has been manually rolled back.

It's so funny when n00bs argue. :roll:

Anyway, sithlord-aku, you need to be fair and equitable when dealing with potential mixers. This is the nature of the project in the manner that you envisioned it, and as such, you have to be consistent accross the board.

To everyone else, that's enough of the bullshittery, please. :roll:

Carry on.

[-RK-]

Dont worry, you wont be dissapointed. Mushroom hill zone was always my favorite song on the soundtrack. That and Azure lake. But whatever.

Sweet project sith. Good job running it too. If you need any help, let me know. I'll do anything I can fit in to help.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I wouldn't say "good job" but I'm trying ;) Welcome to the project LM.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

First Page Updated with a deadline.

I set this date as a W.I.P deadline so I can see who is still serious about being in this project. 4 weeks seems like more than enough time.

[UltimateSonicFan]

FYI: There are two endings, and the one said is not in fact the S3&K ending. The true ending theme is the song that sounds like the S&K theme.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

I know. They are both counted as one track, and I'm letting the remixer who is working on it now (that's Rayza) pick which songs melodies and source tunes he is going to use.

[Ichitootah]

Balloon Park Competition is looking mighty fine right now. I've always wanted to be in an OCR project.

Count me in.

[Linearity]

Jesus, 7 pages in one day? DarkeSword is right, don't jump into this too quickly. I wanted to be part of this, but I wanted some time to refine my skills. Hedgehog Heaven just came out, and you want to shoot off another project in less than a month? I give you all of my encouragement, but timing, guys, timing!

I want in, but I'm not good enough yet with a synthesizer, and I don't know how to use soundfonts. *sigh* If you absolutely need somebody, talk to me, but I'm a "remixer-to-be" as my sig says, not a complete remixer yet. I'm saying all this because my hopes are crushed and I need to vent.

COME ON! I was all excited to be part of a project. God dammit. Okay, I'm done.

[The Instrument of GAWD]

You forgot a few short but deccent tracks:

http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/invincib.mid
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/knuckles.mid
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/noway.mid

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Those tracks aren't being used.

[The Instrument of GAWD]

Those tracks aren't being used.

Why not?

[nesper]

can i do lava reef?

[jmr]

Those tracks aren't being used.
Why not?
Well, in my opinion, 25 tracks is enough!
And besides, both the Knuckles theme and Invincibility theme have two different versions each, the Sonic 3 version, and the Sonic and Knuckles versions.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Sure nesper, I got you on there, but your work with have to be voted on against Xerol's remix (welcome back). Can you handle to challenge? :wink:

[ffmusic dj]

Hello and welcome to
THE SONIC 3 & KNUCKLES REMIX PROJECT

W.I.P Deadline "Saturday; April 9th, 2005"

I have been wanted to do remixes for this soundtrack for as long as I can remember. It is my personal favorite Sonic soundtrack, and knowing that people want to do this project just made me want to do it even more.

One issue I had with trying to make this soundtrack into a remix project was the fact that it has quite a few tracks within it. I thought about it and came up with a simple solution.

Let's use "Mushroom Hill Zone 1 and 2" as an example.
These are two seperate zones, but under the surface, they have the same melodies. This has led me to decide that we should just put the zones togheter and let you pic the source material from the two zones of the area you decided to try and remix. Sound simple?

Here is the list of tracks that will be used in the soundtrack:

Select Game - claimed by sithlord-aku
Angel Island Zone - claimed by Rexy
Hydrocity - claimed by yoshi_84
Marble Garden - claimed by RoeTaka
Carnival Night - claimed by DCT
Icecap - claimed by analoq
Launch Base - claimed by GeckoYamori
Mushroom Hill - claimed by Lord Maestro
Flying Battery - claimed by Beatdrop
Sandopolis - claimed by DarkeSword
Lava Reef - claimed by nesper/or Xerol (tenative)
Sky Santuary - claimed by Azar
Death Egg - claimed by DJBren
Boss 1 - FREE
Boss 2 - claimed by Sir Nuts
Doomsday pt1 - FREE
Doomsday pt2 - claimed by Hadyn
Ending - claimed by Rayza
Special Stage - claimed by DCT
Competition Menu - FREE
Azure Lake Competition - claimed by Rayza
Balloon Park Competition - claimed by Ichitootah
Chrome Gadget Competition - claimed by Hetcenus
Endless Mine Competition - claimed by jeffreymroberts
Desert Competition - claimed by UncleSporky(temporary for now)


Here are a list of 100-80% surefire remixers on the project-
Beatdrop(YAY)
Lordmaestro
yoshi_84
joker
Haydn
Rayza(YAY)
Sir Nuts(YAY)
myself :)
DarkeSword(YAY)
analoq(YAY)
RoeTaka(YAY)

There is no need to rush at all, time makes things better in my opinion. As for myself, I will be working on a track (Select Game) while I wait. I hope that this becomes a successful remix project. Anyone can grab a track, and if someone has a track that you wanted to do, you can work on it as well, and then there will be a vote. Have fun' - SithLordAku
Click Here for the Sonic 3 and Knuckles GYM files. (http://www.zophar.net/gym/SK+SONIC3.RAR)

I'll take Boss 1!

[The Instrument of GAWD]

Those tracks aren't being used.
Why not?
Well, in my opinion, 25 tracks is enough!
And besides, both the Knuckles theme and Invincibility theme have two different versions each, the Sonic 3 version, and the Sonic and Knuckles versions.

Yeah, but the S&K ver. of those tracks overide the S3 ones, when you connect the games anyway. If it was seriously concidered tho, the tracks that have two versions could be put into one track; Invisibilty, Knuckles, etc.

Anyway, I'm just pointing out afew short deccent ones that weren't on the first page.

[nesper]

i guess...i was wanting to try the comp menu as well so i guess i'll just work on both of them and if i don't get lava reef then i can still have that one. even if i do get it i'd be willing to do them both. it's whatever though. :)

[Hadyn]

Up to the remixer what style they want to do. But please, mixers, don't over do the techno.

I'm thinking a guitar/electronica mix ^^

maybe Doomsday pt 2 (I know it has already been claimed, but just in case :wink: )

Haha - The only thing that'll stop me from mixing that, is death ;)

Oh yeah, Congratulations sithlord - you've got quite a line-up there :)

[Antipode]

Hey there. I'd like to take a crack at the Competition Menu theme. It could be interesting, and if my version doesn't make the cut I'm sure someone else would gladly try it out.

EDIT: Hey, I just realized nesper made the same comment. I'm sure there would be no harm in having two versions to choose from.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

ffmusicdj!! welcome to the project man.
antipode, same to you :D

[GSlicer]

I'll take Boss 1!

I was going to try my hand at Boss 1, but I don't think I stand much of a chance now :P
I'll still give it a shot, though, just for fun.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

welcome aboard sailor!

[Antipode]

Wow, this project has the potential to be very very good. S3&K has excellent source material, and there are quite a few very talented people here.

[The Joker]

Guess I'll claim Doomsday 1, but if I feel like it, I may do one of the other claimed songs.

Edit: Although after listening to it a few times, I'm sure it'd make a bad arsed son of a gun mix. MotherFather's!

[Beatdrop]

MotherFather? As in...

You stupid motherfather chinese dentist!

????

[Rayza]

MotherFather? As in...

You stupid motherfather chinese dentist!

????

Yay Mr. Show :)

Time for chinese dentist? If 2:30 (tooth-hurty), he fixy!

Uhhhh.. Back on topic.. WIPs in April people! Chop chop..

[The Joker]

To answer your questions yes. Ya motherfather. Oohhh, & a new word for my project buddies....

Today's word is: Petus. pronounced P'tus.

And yeah, I found both a midi & a mp3 of my song. So yay!

[Siamey]

im gonna sift through my old angel island project and see if i can make it cool again

[Nicole Adams]

yoshi_84, please do Hydrocity the justice it deserves! :D

I hope I can! Act 2 is a tough song with a lot going on, but I plan on analyzing each part of a MIDI and get a real feel for what I want to do. I have some ideas, including some live jazz guitar so we'll just have to see. :) Good luck to all! :D

[Hetcenus]

Although I think April 9th is a fine deadline for the WIP, maybe I won't be able to upload it. I have problems... I started university last Monday, in another city, going back and forth every day, I can only use the (crappy) internet on Sundays and daybreak, and I got real hardware trouble here...
SOMEBODY HELP ME :!: :!: :!:
BTW, It's almost 6:00am here. Gotta go.

[Hetcenus]

Although I think April 9th is a fine deadline for the WIP, maybe I won't be able to upload it. I have problems... I started university last Monday, in another city, going back and forth every day, I can only use the (crappy) internet on Sundays and daybreak, and I got real hardware trouble here...
SOMEBODY HELP ME :!: :!: :!:
BTW, It's almost 6:00am here. Gotta go.

[Bren]

By the way, did you know there's two versions of Launch Base? One is from the original cart, and the other is from the PC version of the game (which is what I have, and all of the other songs are exactly the same, its just that one which is different)

[Hadyn]

Behold! My first WIP: http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails.mp3

Let me know if it sucks. I can easily start again ^^

[-RK-]

haha Hadyn, Clever title. :lol:

Oh, and DJBren, I believe Sith only wants the counsole games covered here.

[StarZander]

If someone needs webspace for their WIPs, then PM me or msg me on MSN, as I can offer some of my own webspace.

[Bren]

Behold! My first WIP: http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails.mp3

Let me know if it sucks. I can easily start again ^^

ACK!! My head exploded after the first 14 seconds of this, but other than that, not a bad start.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Console version baby!

Cool start Hadyn!

[StarZander]

If someone needs webspace for their WIPs, then PM me or msg me on MSN, as I can offer some of my own webspace.

[Murmeli Walan]

I love the fact that analoq's covering IceCap. It's gonna be sweet to hear it in his style.

I just hope this project gets released at least sometime this year. :wink:

[DJ Nova]

I know it doesn't sound like much now (especially compared to Hadyn's WiP), but here is my WiP of Doomsday pt 2:

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3doomsday.mp3

Hope it doens't suck to much...

[Hadyn]

newer WIP: http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails2.mp3

EDIT: Whoops... posted wrong link. Fixed now.

Just all my ideas thrown together into a short piece so you guys can see what I have in mind. All feedback is great :)

[Hadyn]

I know it doesn't sound like much now (especially compared to Hadyn's WiP), but here is my WiP of Doomsday pt 2:

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3doomsday.mp3

Hope it doens't suck to much...

Actually, once it gets into it, I really like it :) Sounds less depressing than mine ;)

I'm a little scared now I have some competition :P

Keep it up man!

[Siamey]

im assuming since haroon and rayza are in, then there is no complaints with trance/house styles

[Hadyn]

im assuming since haroon and rayza are in, then there is no complaints with trance/house styles

They're fine, it's just that it'd kind of suck if too many tracks were in the same style.

[hobo]

Wow, I like those WIPs... I'm not sure which I would prefer...

Good job.

[PlatformerMastah]

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[GeckoYamori]

I'm going for a Dr. Dre/Chronic style.

[Navi]

I'm going for a Dr. Dre/Chronic style.
fuck yeah

[Hadyn]

Can the remixes have vocals? I kinda want mine to have lyrics...

[hobo]

I've never been a huge fan of mixes with lyrics.

[nesper]

i'm gonna mix the comp menu with vocals and my style is gonna be hip hop as well. i'm shooting for more of a dirty south thang though. :) i was thinking about it and well...i'm trying out for three of the mixes. originally i wanted to do sky sanctuary but this thread blew up pretty fucking quick so i did'nt get the chance to get it and i had already started working on it...so...yeah...that's the latest from me. peace.

[GeckoYamori]

I'm not sure if it will actually be Hip Hop (Which I'm not very good at, + I never do anything below 105bpm), but the overall feel and atmosphere will be the same.

[nesper]

I'm not sure if it will actually be Hip Hop (Which I'm not very good at, + I never do anything below 105bpm), but the overall feel and atmosphere will be the same.

looking forward to it dawg!

[Sir_NutS]

im assuming since haroon and rayza are in, then there is no complaints with trance/house styles
I hope not :wink:

[Holy Warrior Azar]

i wanted to do sky sanctuary but this thread blew up pretty fucking quick so i did'nt get the chance to get it and i had already started working on it.

If your doing a rock version of it, I'll gladly hand it over. But if not, I'll be willing to compete. :wink:

You'd probably win though, I have very limited resources and the most I'll have by that deadline is a .mus file in need of conversion and tweaking. But I'm going at Sky Sanctuary head on, this needs a hard rock arrangment, and I'll use whatever I have to make one.

[Nicole Adams]

newer WIP: http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails2.mp3

EDIT: Whoops... posted wrong link. Fixed now.

Just all my ideas thrown together into a short piece so you guys can see what I have in mind. All feedback is great :)

Pretty cool stuff you got there. Love the percussion and the title! :wink:

I gotta go to math in about ten minutes, which really sucks cause I've come up with a lot more ideas for my Hydrocity mix. Oy, the two hours won't go by quick enough! At least I got my Big Bad Voodoo Daddy CD to pop in my CD player for some inspiration while I'm cruisin' to the college. :)

[MysticStampede]

I'd just like to come out of "hiding" to show my support for this project, and I think it's fine that it's starting even though Hedgehog Heaven just came out, because it's a great soundtrack and there seems to be enough interest in it. It's funny, because yesterday I was playing S3&K on Sonic Mega Collection and I thought it would be cool if there was ever a site project for it and I come here and BOOM! there it is.

I would have loved to take a shot a Sandopolis Zone, the final boss theme, or the Doomsday Zone theme, but sadly I don't have a program and even if I did I bet my lack of experience would hinder my ability to incorporate my ideas....oh well, whatever.

On a (pointless) side note, I noticed how the mid-boss theme and the Flying Battery Zone theme have the same James Bond type of thing going on in them.

Oh, and Hadyn, I'll have to hurt you if you add lyrics to that song......but nice job so far!

[Beatdrop]

http://www.paletteswap.com/beatdrop/Beatdrop%20-%20Sonic%20&%20Knuckles%20-%20Catapult.mp3

There are some issues in this WIP that I haven't gotten around to fixing yet (mainly mastering issues), but this should give you a good idea where I'm going with mine.

[hobo]

Oooh, nice job Beatdrop.

[Siamey]

ok, so heres a little WIP i have of endless mine.

even though its claimed by jeffreymroberts id still like to make one, and get a vote or somethin.

please forgive the weirdness of the intro, as i have only spent about 20 min on it so far, and im still trying to cope with a few of the deceptively annoying features that were introduced in reason 3.0


http://www.siamey.com/mind_shafts.mp3

[hobo]

Hmm... not bad at all... Can jeff top this?

[Navi]

I'm not sure if it will actually be Hip Hop (Which I'm not very good at, + I never do anything below 105bpm), but the overall feel and atmosphere will be the same.


If you need a rapper...cough...cough...

[sae]

Looking like fun, Sithlord! It's really seems to be snowballing as well.

I know it might be early, but I was thinking you could lay out a set of the rules you have already decided on in your first post.

Also, you said there could be competition over themes. It's not a bad idea to encourage people to take tracks that haven't been claimed yet, but you shouldn't discourage them from taking up tracks that other, more established mixers have jumped on. The more songs to pick from/vote on, the better I say!

[Sir_NutS]

hmm there's a lot of enthusiasm on this project on the remixers part.. I've worked on my song as well and I might provide a WIP tonight.

[nesper]

If your doing a rock version of it, I'll gladly hand it over. But if not, I'll be willing to compete. :wink:

You'd probably win though, I have very limited resources and the most I'll have by that deadline is a .mus file in need of conversion and tweaking. But I'm going at Sky Sanctuary head on, this needs a hard rock arrangment, and I'll use whatever I have to make one.

haha...naw it's gonna be house...don't sell yourself short too quickly though...i ain't the best remixer and despite what you might think of me i don't think too many ppl enjoy my style.

[AMT]

Damn, both of those Doomsday's are awesome... I don't know which I like more. Maybe you two could even collaborate on it? I dunno. Beatdrop, that one's hella nice too. Always loved Flying Battery.

[hobo]

I have to say, I'm impressed with how well this project is advancing.

[RazorVayne]

Just a small, off-topic question - Does anyone know what happened to The Banjo-Kazooie project?

[Castel]

Hey, is the Doomsday Zone theme included in this project (the one where you have to use Super Sonic to defeat the robot by flying through the asteroids)?

[AMT]

Yeah, and we have 2 versions so far. Read back a few pages to hear.

[Nicole Adams]

Nice job on your WIPs, Siamey and Beatdrop! Now, let's see what I can do for Hydrocity. Hopefully a WIP will be up soon.

[StarZander]

Just a small, off-topic question - Does anyone know what happened to The Banjo-Kazooie project?

It pretty much just... died.

[GeckoYamori]

I'm not sure if it will actually be Hip Hop (Which I'm not very good at, + I never do anything below 105bpm), but the overall feel and atmosphere will be the same.


If you need a rapper...cough...cough...

No rapping, I'm gonna throw in some electric piano/sax solos instead. Maybe for a separate vocal version.

Anyway, here's a really early draft
http://geckoyamori.savagewar.co.uk/Launch%20Base%20(S3K%20Project).mp3

Gangsta Lead isn't quite there yet.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Hey, is the Doomsday Zone theme included in this project (the one where you have to use Super Sonic to defeat the robot by flying through the asteroids)? There is zone 1 (Doomsday pt1) and Zone 2 (pt2)

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Haydn - Yes, you can use vocals. Btw, your remix ix awesome so far man!
Siamey - You can trance the hell out of your shit, no coplaints ;) We have very talented remixers, so any style used will be great. Keep it up on that remix!:D
Beatdrop - Very impressive work man. :)
GeckoYamori
HAHA, funky shit. I like that man! Great start :)
hobo - All I can say considering jeff vs siamey is... we shall see! I have heard both though.

Nice work so far fellahs. Keep it up!

Have a Nice day'

[Icy Guy]

Sweet jibbly giblets! An S3K project already?!

Anyway, I'm trying to decide what to take. I can't make up my mind between the Special Stage (This is the 3D one with the spheres, NOT the gumball machine or glowing orbs and bumpers, right?), Desert Palace, Chrome Gadget, and Marble Garden. Of course, I'm not so masochistic that I'd want to handle all four of those. I'm not asking to be randomly signed up for one or all of those at the moment, either - I'm just putting my thoughts down on paper (HTML?) so I can see them, and hopefully organize them, allowing me to make my decision.

Also, that's some good stuff in the WIP department, guys. Keep it up. :)

Btw: Hadyn, I've noticed you've gone back to using your guitar, like you did in some of your earlier mixes (yes, I remember your DKC2 mines remix, as well as your Ice Cap mix). As with those earlier mixes, is it live? I suspect it is, but I'm just curious.

[Castel]

Hey, is the Doomsday Zone theme included in this project (the one where you have to use Super Sonic to defeat the robot by flying through the asteroids)? There is zone 1 (Doomsday pt1) and Zone 2 (pt2)

Zone 2 sounds like the fight with the last boss of Sonic 3.

The song I'm thinking of is this one:

http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/S%26Kfinalboss2.mid

Is that Doomsday Zone 1?

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Yes.

[Castel]

Yes.

Ok, that was confusing me for a second. Thanks for the info! :D

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

No problem

Mixers!

I am maping out a rough plan that we all we TRY to follow, so expect that real soon.

[DarkeSword]

Yes.

Except in the game, it's not Doomsday Zone. It's the Final Boss theme; it happens before you enter Doomsday.

That's faulty labelling. :?

[UncleSporky]

Shoot. Amazing WIPs. You know what, you'd better take me off the project before I embarrass myself. :) I don't really have time for it anyway, especially if it were to be my first "good" remix. College and stuff beckons. Carry on...

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Yes.

Except in the game, it's not Doomsday Zone. It's the Final Boss theme; it happens before you enter Doomsday.

That's faulty labelling. :?

Yeah, but in the gym file, lists as doomsday zone 1 and zone 2. If it's that serious though, I'll be glad to change it :)

[Rayza]

you'd better take me off the project

Clapclapclap.. Our first dropped mixer.. Easy come, easy go..

[UncleSporky]

Hey, now... Take it easy, I'm a n00b, I don't count.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Hey, now... Take it easy, I'm a n00b, I don't count.

lol, well, sorry you had to drop, and hope you get better man! :wink:

[-RK-]

Hey, now... Take it easy, I'm a n00b, I don't count.

lol, well, sorry you had to drop, and hope you get better man! :wink:

Likewise. Keep on keepin on.

Also, not to sound antsy or "oo oo oo oo" but... what are the requirements for getting this in the site project fourm?

I'm not saying I want it in there right away, just curious as to what those are.

[Rayza]

I'm thinking it has to get widely noticed and taken seriously. Also a good plan wouldnt hurt.. I think if we can get a bunch of wip's going, and the mod's see it wasn't just a fad or something it may get moved..

[GSlicer]

Early WIP. The ReMix yet to be titled.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/generalslicermusic.htm

[Xerol Oplan]

It's a sticky, for crying out loud. (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=35905)

Anyway, got another 3 measures done, nothing worth rendering another mp3 though.

I can set up an FTP account on LG to host WiPs and the like, but there's no access control(we can make it read only or read-write, that's it), so it'd have to run on the honor system that you won't delete/overwrite other people's WiPs and only use it for THIS project. I'd only give out the FTP info to the mixers anyway, in private, so it doesn't get flooded with junk files.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

It's a sticky, for crying out loud. (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=35905)

Anyway, got another 3 measures done, nothing worth rendering another mp3 though.

I can set up an FTP account on LG to host WiPs and the like, but there's no access control(we can make it read only or read-write, that's it), so it'd have to run on the honor system that you won't delete/overwrite other people's WiPs and only use it for THIS project. I'd only give out the FTP info to the mixers anyway, in private, so it doesn't get flooded with junk files.

You beat me to it lol.

That would be great if you set up that account. I think that the mixers are mature enough to use it only for this project ;)

[Murmeli Walan]

Sorry to hear you drop out, Sporky. I know how you feel.

Hey, now there's another track for analo...I mean, anyone to claim!

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Sorry to hear you drop out, Sporky. I know how you feel.

Hey, now there's another track for analo...I mean, anyone to claim!

lol, he is a busy man lol.

[Murmeli Walan]

Sorry to hear you drop out, Sporky. I know how you feel.

Hey, now there's another track for analo...I mean, anyone to claim!

lol, he is a busy man lol.

Yeah, I know. But I can always dream.

Speaking of the Desert Palace theme, I noticed that the Desert Palace and Chrome Gadget themes are switched in the GYM files. These files are pretty poorly organized.

[The G-Man]

Those files are indeed poorly organized, it may be wise to try Shadow of a Hedgehog if .mp3s are needed that are both tagged correctly and missing in that archive.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

This has indeed been any annoying issue that we have had to work around. I am going to look around to see if I can snag the ost for you guys.

[Murmeli Walan]

Those files are indeed poorly organized, it may be wise to try Shadow of a Hedgehog if .mp3s are needed that are both tagged correctly and missing in that archive.

That's what I was going to suggest. SoaH hasn't let me down yet.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/sonic3k.shtml

That has the accurate tracklist.

[Moo2u]

I haven't really read the entire thred, but just curius, is the "No Game" music going to be featured on this? It's when you put in a game that's not Sonic 2 or 3 into Sonic and Knuckles and the words "No Game" or something like that appear overhead. It's also used as the Race Results music. I remember that using Sonic 1 to unlock a secret speical stage to play. I liked the music, and hardly anyone remembers it. Just curious folks!

Here's a link to it...
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/planetdreamcast/sonic/music/sonic3k/47_-_Race_Results.mp3

I look foward to this project! Good luck everybody.

[Nicole Adams]

Well, after hours of trying to come up with something, I think I finally have. This is a very short WIP, but at least it's something. Very minimal mastering done, among other things. Tell me what ya think.

Hydrocity WIP [v1]
ftp://66.221.70.133/yoshi_84/Hydrocity%20WIP%20[v1].mp3

EDIT: General Slicer, awesome work on your WIP!

[Rayza]

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/sonic3k.shtml

That has the accurate tracklist.

Dang, need a gamespy ID huh.. Do they send you lots of spam if you sign up?

[jmr]

I know this is overkill, but for those who want a complete and accurate Sonic 3 & Knuckles GYM soundtrack (checked it myself), here you are:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jeffswallpapers/boardfiles/EMW/SONIC3+K.rar
(Copy+Paste the Link if necessairy... and if someone wants to, they can mirror it) I hope it uploaded all right.
And here's (http://members.lycos.co.uk/jeffswallpapers/boardfiles/EMW/S3+K-Gym.txt) the list of all the files in the RAR.

[The G-Man]

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/sonic3k.shtml

That has the accurate tracklist.

Dang, need a gamespy ID huh.. Do they send you lots of spam if you sign up?

I haven't gotten one bit of spam from them as far as I know.

[Murmeli Walan]

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/sonic3k.shtml

That has the accurate tracklist.

Dang, need a gamespy ID huh.. Do they send you lots of spam if you sign up?

I haven't gotten one bit of spam from them as far as I know.

Yeah, don't worry about spam at all with gamespy.

[Rayza]

I know this is overkill, but for those who want a complete and accurate Sonic 3 & Knuckles GYM soundtrack (checked it myself), here you are:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/jeffswallpapers/boardfiles/EMW/SONIC3+K.rar
(Copy+Paste the Link if necessairy... and if someone wants to, they can mirror it) I hope it uploaded all right.
And here's (http://members.lycos.co.uk/jeffswallpapers/boardfiles/EMW/S3+K-Gym.txt) the list of all the files in the RAR.

Thanks Jeff.. I also hope you're not wrong :)

COMPLETE GYM COLLECTION MIRRORED HERE (http://www.rayza.net/misc/SONIC3+K.rar)

[Nicole Adams]

Well, I've decided to do a collab on the Hydrocity mix with Gman so can you add his name to the main post, sithlord-aku? Thank you! :D

[square-x]

I guess I'll try something. I'm not sure what though, maybe nesper and I can collab on lava reef or something. I might find something I like more though, but yeah, count me in on this.

[The G-Man]

Well, I've decided to do a collab on the Hydrocity mix with Gman so can you add his name to the main post, sithlord-aku? Thank you! :D

I hope you don't mean this "Gman." I'm no musician, I'm just trying to help out. :?

[Gman]

Oh..I see how it is yoshi! you left me for The G-Man!
I was sure you wanted to collab with me *cry*

[Rayza]

I'm working on a more "Official" list so that we're all on the same page here. Get the proper gym pack either from my link (http://www.rayza.net/misc/SONIC3+K.rar) or the one jeff provided..

[Mr. Bottle Rocket]

slight off topic but just how the heck does one rip GYM files anyways? :?

[Rayza]

slight off topic but just how the heck does one rip GYM files anyways? :?

Some emulators allow you to "save gym file" or something similar to that..

[Mr. Bottle Rocket]

hmm gotta check if mine does that...if not then it's off to Zophar.net to get one...Sparkster needs a GYM OST thingamaboobie somewhere.

[Rayza]

I went through sithlords original list and compared it to the "official" gym list (http://www.rayza.net/misc/SONIC3+K.rar) and theres quite a few discrepancies to clear up. At this point I think we should be referencing filenames rather than act names/events so we know exactly what we're talking about. Here is what I've found. (assume .gym at the end of all filenames)

01-Sega - FREE/Possibly Unused
02-S3TitleScreen - FREE
03-SKTitleScreen - FREE
04-DataSelect - claimed by sithlord-aku

05/06-AngelIsland - claimed by Rexy
07/08-HydroCity - claimed by yoshi_84
09/10-MarbleGarden - claimed by RoeTaka
11/12-CarnivalNight - claimed by DCT
13/14-IceCap - claimed by analoq
15/16-LaunchBase - claimed by GeckoYamori
17/18-MushroomHill - claimed by Lord Maestro/or GaMeBoX
19/20-FlyingBattery - claimed by Beatdrop
21/22-Sandopolis - DarkeSword
23-LavaReef - claimed by nesper/or Xerol (tenative)
24-HiddenPalace - FREE/Possibly too similar to 23-LavaReef
25-SkySanctuary - claimed by Azar/or nesper
26/27-DeathEgg - claimed by DJBren
28-Doomsday - claimed by Joker

29-ActCleared - FREE/Possibly Unused
30-S3Knuckles - FREE/Possibly Unused
31-SKKnuckles - FREE/Possibly Unused
32-GumballBonus - FREE/Possibly Unused
33-GlowballBonus - FREE/Possibly Unused
34-SlotMachineBonus - FREE/Possibly Unused
35-SpecialStage - claimed by DCT
36-ChaosEmerald - FREE/Possibly Unused
37-S3SuperSonic - FREE/Possibly Unused
38-SKSuperSonic - FREE/Possibly Unused
39-S3ExtraLife - FREE/Possibly Unused
40-SKExtraLife - FREE/Possibly Unused
41-Continue - FREE/Possibly Unused

42-CompetitionMenu - claimed by nesper/or antipode
43-AzureLake - claimed by Rayza
44-BalloonPark - claimed by Ichitootah
45-ChromeGadget - claimed by Hetcenus
46-DesertPalace - FREE
47-EndlessMine - claimed by jeffreymroberts/or Siamey
48-RaceResults - FREE

49-Drowning - FREE/Possibly Unused
50-GameOver - FREE/Possibly Unused

51-S3Act1Boss - claimed by ffmusicdj/or General Slicer
52-SKAct1Boss - (Did they claim S3 or SK act 1 boss?)

53-Act2Boss - claimed by Sir Nuts
54-FinalBoss - claimed by Hadyn/or DjNova
55-S3Ending - FREE/Possibly Unused
56-S3Credits - claimed by Rayza
57-SKEnding - FREE/Possibly Unused
58-SKCredits - FREE (sounds like a megamix/compilation of many themes)

I've made comments (in bold) and listed every gym from the pack. Some are very short in which case I wasn't sure if we'd use them or not. Others just haven't been discussed yet and I wasn't sure what was actually going to be used/not used.

I also combined many of the main act themes since we decided many are very similar and the artist can choose which (or both) he wants to use for their mix.

If there are any major errors let me know..

[Nicole Adams]

Oh..I see how it is yoshi! you left me for The G-Man!
I was sure you wanted to collab with me *cry*

Quit yer cryin' man! I need your madskillz for Hydrocity! 8)

[Hadyn]

28-Doomsday - claimed by Joker & "pt2" claimed by Hadyn/or DjNova (I don't see 1 & 2, please clear this up)
54-FinalBoss - FREE (I think?)


Doomsday pt 2 is actually FinalBoss. So I'm remixing that.

[Rayza]

28-Doomsday - claimed by Joker & "pt2" claimed by Hadyn/or DjNova (I don't see 1 & 2, please clear this up)
54-FinalBoss - FREE (I think?)


Doomsday pt 2 is actually FinalBoss. So I'm remixing that.

Thanks, updated my list..

[The Joker]

Okinawa han shinto puffy amiyumi! That's japanese for gibberish! I got a really early, thrown together mp3. I'm most likely gonna cut a lot of stuff. Thoguh I'd like to know which parts you folks think I should keep.
http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/Sonic%20Knuckles%20-%20Zero%20Hour.mp3

Not really mastered as much as... I made this!

[DJ Nova]

28-Doomsday - claimed by Joker & "pt2" claimed by Hadyn/or DjNova (I don't see 1 & 2, please clear this up)
54-FinalBoss - FREE (I think?)


Doomsday pt 2 is actually FinalBoss. So I'm remixing that.

I am remixing that too, but i'm already correctly placed on the list :)

[Hadyn]

http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/Sonic%20Knuckles%20-%20Zero%20Hour.mp3

Not really mastered as much as... I made this!

Take out that ear-splitting high-pitched droning noise, and you have a winner on your hands ^^

Yeah... That noise hurts the fck out of my ears, but everything else sounds awesome :)

Early WIP. The ReMix yet to be titled.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/generalslicermusic.htm

Sounding nice man. Keep it up.



Anyway, here's a really early draft
http://geckoyamori.savagewar.co.uk/Launch%20Base%20(S3K%20Project).mp3

Gangsta Lead isn't quite there yet.

Bloody awesome - can't wait to hear more :D

[Sir_NutS]

This is the only WIP I'l give out to the public, so the final release will only be avaliable when the project is released :wink:

ftp://66.221.70.133/FS/Sir_NutS-Run_For_Your_Life,_Knuckles!.mp3

this is the first demo, so it will be improved a lot on the final version, and of course, it wil be longer than that (maybe 5 or 6 minutes).
so yeah enjoy.

[ellywu2]

if you guys still need any tracks done, and no one comes forward send me a pm and i'll do it :)

[AMT]

Anyway, here's a really early draft
http://geckoyamori.savagewar.co.uk/Launch%20Base%20(S3K%20Project).mp3

Gangsta Lead isn't quite there yet.


Sounding good, but that squealing noise... Maybe reduce the volume on it, or something, 'cause I think it'd start to get annoying after a while.


Early WIP. The ReMix yet to be titled.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/generalslicermusic.htm


Excellent man, that one is great!

This is the only WIP I'l give out to the public, so the final release will only be avaliable when the project is released :wink:

ftp://66.221.70.133/FS/Sir_NutS-Run_For_Your_Life,_Knuckles!.mp3

this is the first demo, so it will be improved a lot on the final version, and of course, it wil be longer than that (maybe 5 or 6 minutes).
so yeah enjoy.

Nice name. This one is coming along very nicely, possibly my favorite one so far. Can't wait to hear the final!


http://joker.paletteswap.com/Remixes/Sonic%20Knuckles%20-%20Zero%20Hour.mp3

Not really mastered as much as... I made this!

This one's a good start, I like the style of it. Like Hadyn said, fix that high-pitched noise and it'll be great.

I hope you all don't mind me commenting on the songs, I don't know how to remix at all, so I really have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to composition. I'm just telling you from a listener's standpoint, so feel free to completely disregard this post. <_<

By the way, anyone think up a cool name for the overall project?

[Rexy]

Not yet, but I'll clobber anyone who dares come up with Hedgehog Heaven II :P

[Hadyn]

I've got it! We should call it... Hedgehog Heaven II!

[GaMeBoX]

a first early snapshot of my wip....
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3683

got a nice groove goin....

[AMT]

Run, Hadyn! She's coming!

That was a suprisingly short clip, Gamebox, so I really can't say much. Yeah... I guess this is a pretty useless post....

[Rexy]

:lol: Yeah, just had to come somewhere down the line...

Anyway, I just want to let you know that I have been working on my contribution for the project. It may be a bit dense right now, and even here it's practically unfinished, but it's as much as I could go through before Easter break.

Right-click here and select "Save Target As" (http://www.angelfire.com/music6/moulinrex/divided-grace2.mp3) in order to download the file.

Might as well tell a bit about what I did. The music in both acts of the Angel Island Zone, although similar, seem to portray a different range of melodic values as a whole.
The first half of the piece portrays the island at peace, all leading into a light fast-tempo segment that signifies meeting up with Eggman's fire machine thing.
The second half - which I admit still needs work - showcases the pain of the island, burning into rubble and appearing of more of a hellish nature; even with that painful image in mind, the player still needs to go on to defeat Eggman and reclaim the Chaos Emeralds, even if it does take several zones at a time.

Thanks for your time, good sirs and madames ^^

[Hadyn]

Latest version!

http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails3.mp3

I need feedback! It's certainly not finished and I'll continue to improve it myself, but if there's something you think I should change or try, TELL ME! I want to make this as good as I can.

It's going to be up next to tracks by some of the best game remix artists around, I don't want it to sound sub-par ^^;

Thanks in advance,

~Hadyn

[Hadyn]

Right-click here and select "Save Target As" (http://www.angelfire.com/music6/moulinrex/divided-grace2.mp3) in order to download the file.

Thanks for your time, good sirs and madames ^^

Holy freak that's cool :D

I mean, there a little things here and there, but damn! Nice going so far! Very nice groove you've got ^^

I'm not sure about the quality of that saxamaphone sound - maybe try some delay or verb?

Also, the song as a whole is *very* quiet, so maybe you could bring up the olume a little ^^

But yeah. Otherwise, I'm loving it :)

[Rexy]

heh, thanks ^^ interesting you mentioned the volume issues, because I had the same problem with the WIPs of my Sonic 2 work at VGMix. Might be the overdose on the percussion levels (again) or something, but when I approach the file again I'll see if I can look into it.

As far as I'm concerned, composition comes before production techniques, although I'm still thinking on about reverb application.

Looking on at your work man, I for one thought the ideas have managed to work well so far, and have worked in portraying the menacing nature of the final boss. Very thoughtful. If there's something I could suggest at this point it could be towards the drum processing; I thought you swamped the snare with too much treble EQ, as it sounds more like a NES snare more than the industrial type you seemed to be aiming for here.

Nonetheless, let's hope this project works on well ^^

[AMT]

Wow. Just wow. Hadyn, you don't have to worry about sounding sub par at all. That's just plain awesome.

Rexy, really nice song there. It's perfect for the beginning of the project- can't wait to hear the finished thing.

[Hadyn]

Hey, thanks - bot of you ^^

Rexy - yeah, I don't like my drums a whole lot - I'll try out what you said next time I work on the piece.

If there's anything else you guys can think of, make sure to let me know. I won't be working on it again for atleast another 15 hours, so that's plenty of time for feedback :)

Thanks again,

~Hadyn

[hobo]

Not yet, but I'll clobber anyone who dares come up with Hedgehog Heaven II :P

How about Emeralds of Chaos?

[Hadyn]

Not yet, but I'll clobber anyone who dares come up with Hedgehog Heaven II :P

How about Emeralds of Chaos?

OMG. :lol: That's made my day

[DJ Nova]

Still lots of stuff i need to change about it, but here is an update on WiP:

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3finalboss.mp3

All of the other WiPs sound very good! Keep up the good work guys! :)

Edit: Fixed link

[nesper]

Still lots of stuff i need to change about it, but here is an update on WiP:

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3finalboss.mp3'

All of the other WiPs sound very good! Keep up the good work guys! :)

link's not working

[Castel]

Not yet, but I'll clobber anyone who dares come up with Hedgehog Heaven II :P

How about Emeralds of Chaos?

OMG. :lol: That's made my day

Ditto. :D

Edit: I had a title idea, but then I realised it sucked.

[Upthorn]

Still lots of stuff i need to change about it, but here is an update on WiP:

http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3finalboss.mp3'

All of the other WiPs sound very good! Keep up the good work guys! :)

link's not working

Do you see the ' at the end of the filename? That's the problem.
Try http://home.planet.nl/~hofm0200/s3finalboss.mp3

:lol: Yeah, just had to come somewhere down the line...

Anyway, I just want to let you know that I have been working on my contribution for the project. It may be a bit dense right now, and even here it's practically unfinished, but it's as much as I could go through before Easter break.

Right-click here and select "Save Target As" (http://www.angelfire.com/music6/moulinrex/divided-grace2.mp3) in order to download the file.

Might as well tell a bit about what I did. The music in both acts of the Angel Island Zone, although similar, seem to portray a different range of melodic values as a whole.
The first half of the piece portrays the island at peace, all leading into a light fast-tempo segment that signifies meeting up with Eggman's fire machine thing.
The second half - which I admit still needs work - showcases the pain of the island, burning into rubble and appearing of more of a hellish nature; even with that painful image in mind, the player still needs to go on to defeat Eggman and reclaim the Chaos Emeralds, even if it does take several zones at a time.

Thanks for your time, good sirs and madames ^^

First, angelfire doesn't allow remote linking, so it should be noted that in order to get that link to work, it has to be copied, and pasted into a new window. At least in Mozilla.

Excellent, excellent work on the first half. I also definitely like your concept. I'm having two problems with the second half. First, the transition, at about 2:15, brings to mind one of those silly chase montages you see in cartoons. Second, at about 3:36, it suddenly turns upbeat again I think I understand what this is (the need to go on despite the pain), the change is a bit too abrupt. You probably know that already. To aid in smoothing the transition, I offer the following advice. Right now, that end part is a bit too happy feeling, what would work better is something that feels a bit angry (in music, as in real life, the transition from sad to angry is smoother than from sad to bouncy). At the same time, I would lengthen the sad part, and shorten the ending (whatever direction you take it in), to end off just as Sonic has gathered his resolve.

Of course, I'm no expert at remixing, and I have no idea how to implement any of what I just suggested, so if you have different ideas, or my suggestions don't make sense, just ignore me.

On a non-critique note: I'm looking forward to hearing your finished version, and I'm glad you're on this project, so I can hear more of your work soon.

[AMT]

Man, those are still so close... DJNova's would really fit in with you zooming through space at insane speeds, while Hadyn's sounds perfect for a final boss fight. Man, great work, both of you.

And Emeralds of Chaos is a pretty cool name... Any other suggestions?

[hobo]

I think EoC would work well for this, what with the Master Emerald and such, but if they didn't like it before, they won't like it now.

[Upthorn]

Man, those are still so close... DJNova's would really fit in with you zooming through space at insane speeds, while Hadyn's sounds perfect for a final boss fight. Man, great work, both of you.

And Emeralds of Chaos is a pretty cool name... Any other suggestions?

I like DJNova's a lot. It's fun and dancy. I'd love to hear it finished. But from the sound I'm hearing from the other wips, Hadyn's is more suited to be in this project/collection. It all depends on what mood we're going for.

Depending on what mood we're going for, "Hedgehog Hell" could be good. As a kind of a nod to Hedgehog Heaven, since this project began so soon after that one's finish, kind of using that as the impetus, but also to say "We're not that."

Alternatively, "Master of Emeralds".

Because, while I don't dislike the suggestion of "Emeralds of Chaos", I have objections to it winning the vote simply because it's got nothing going up against it.

By the way sithlord-aku, if you need someone to help with organization, I'd really like to help out. I don't have any remixing experience, but this project here is my dream, so I want to be of some use. Let me know.

[hobo]

Heh, Hedgehog Hell sounds quite good actually.

And I also wish to be of some use. I have waited for a project like this for some time, and I want to be a part of it.

[GeckoYamori]

The title needs to be something simple and memorable. Frankly, both of the suggestions so far sound pretty lame. But let's not worry about that now.

[hobo]

Hedgehog Heaven 2 & Knuckles?

[Holy Warrior Azar]

nesper is totally going to kick my tail, my arrangement is sucking. Finale drives me nuts! I'm still going to try though, and if sith hates my mix then nesper's good to go, but I am not dropping out. I'll take my spring break next week to come up with a completed rock arrangment midi(who knows, maybe I'll shoot for two just in case :wink: ).

One thing though, when I get it finished, does anybody else here have a completed version of finale so I can send them the .mus to fix the velocities and volume as well as save it in midi format?

[Rexy]

Hey, Upthorn. Thanks a bunch for the commentary concerning my WIP, and I'll be sure to take note on some of your material into account.

Heck, the reason why I implemented a fade-out at the end was that I still have another minute of music to write to add to the nature of the second act, at least with a more climatic closing sequence and a planned transition into the next source in line (Hydrocity Zone).

I did notice some of your problems though;

First, the transition, at about 2:15, brings to mind one of those silly chase montages you see in cartoons.
Yeah, that's just me going overboard with the drum composition, I guess. :P Those were the same problems I had with the earlier versions of Sixty Feet Under, although I'm sure I'll fix that for the next revision.
Second, at about 3:36, it suddenly turns upbeat again I think I understand what this is (the need to go on despite the pain), the change is a bit too abrupt. You probably know that already. To aid in smoothing the transition, I offer the following advice. Right now, that end part is a bit too happy feeling, what would work better is something that feels a bit angry (in music, as in real life, the transition from sad to angry is smoother than from sad to bouncy).
Yeah, suppose that can be fair. The reason why I ended up making it that way was that I was already running out of time when making the WIP, so I had to copy over a few trace elements from the first half to fill the space up. I'll see if I can look into that area over time.

I told you I still needed to work on the second half :P

Anyway, I'm sure to keep on going as soon as opportunities arise again. Meep.

[Upthorn]

Hey, Upthorn. Thanks a bunch for the commentary concerning my WIP, and I'll be sure to take note on some of your material into account.

Heck, the reason why I implemented a fade-out at the end was that I still have another minute of music to write to add to the nature of the second act, at least with a more climatic closing sequence and a planned transition into the next source in line (Hydrocity Zone).

I did notice some of your problems though

I'm glad my commentary was helpful, as I was worried for a minute that I was being overcritical, and might come off as trollish. Your work so far is impressive, keep it up.

[square-x]

they all sound pretty good, i like DJ Novas and s|r nuts the most.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

woo, I gotta do some mad updating! Thanks school. :roll:

The project will be called "The Little Project That Could" ... hehe :lol:

[Rayza]

The title needs to be something simple and memorable. Frankly, both of the suggestions so far sound pretty lame. But let's not worry about that now.

Exactly, you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves.. There are far greater tasks to be completed before the title..

[Sora]

yo. I wanna compete for SkySanctuary
mines probably won't win cause it's more of a "softer" kinda theme. but mebbee someone could do a collab with it later or something.
will post wip tomorrow.

[Siamey]

djnova's has a good intro idea, but the sounds are waaaay too default fruityloops

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Here are a few things I wanted to point out-

The disscusion of a project name is not need at this time.
Please give your input on the tracks I have decided not to use.
You are allowed to (if you can manage it) input other songs that aren't on the main project into your remix if it fits.
I am going to put stars by WIPs that are clear

[jmr]

Umm, can anyone provide a host for my WIP? Tripod's too damn unreliable!
EDIT: Thanks to Rayza, I now present:
My Currently Untitled Endless Mine Mix (http://www.rayza.net/misc/jmr-eternalexcavationWIP.mp3)
EDIT: New URL, once again courtesy of Rayza. Mix now titled 'Eternal Excavation'.
Known issues:
-Drums need more volume.
-Drums need more variation.
-Everything after the 1 minute mark is still in progress.

So, what do you think?

[Hadyn]

Good morning world!

Thanks to whoever left feedback overnight, keep it coming! I'll be working on my piece again when I get home from college - about 7 hours from now - and I'll need all the critiques I can get so I can make my mix as good as possible when I get back to work on it ^^;

here's that link again: http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails3.mp3

On a side note, I was only able to download the first half a minute of djnova's piece, then it just stops. I've had the same problem with a few other downloads lately (not being able to download the full file) - anyone know what I can do to resolve this?

Cheers people!

~Hadyn

[Upthorn]

Please give your input on the tracks I have decided not to use.

Here is a list of the tracks that are not being used.

Sega
Sonic 3 Title Fanfare
Sonic & Knuckles Title Fanfare
Hidden Palace Zone
Act Cleared Fanfare
S3 Knuckles Theme
S&K Knuckles Theme
Gumball Bonus Stage
Glowball Bonus Stage
Slot Bonus Stage
Chaos Emerald Fanfare
S3 Super Sonic/Invincibility Theme
S&K Super Sonic/Invincibility Theme
S3 Extra Life Fanfare
S&K Extra Life Fanfare
Continue Fanfare
Race Results
Drown Warning
S3 Act 1 Boss Theme
S3 Ending Fanfare
S&K Ending Fanfare
S&K Credits

My thoughts on them:
Sega:
The "Sega" voice would be out of place. I hope noone even uses it as a sound effect. That kind of thing is okay in standalone remixes, but I don't think it works well in projects, like this.

Sonic 3 Title:
The title songs are short, so I labeled them fanfares (they're what plays before you get to the title menu). However, considering that DJ Seith remixed the drowning warning, TWICE, into full length songs, I think the Sonic 3 one should be up for grabs.

Sonic & Knuckles Title:
This title fanfare is the same as the Sonic & Knuckles Super Sonic/Invincibility music, except it doesn't loop. A remix of this would be a remix of the S&K Super Sonic theme.


Hidden Palace:
This track should be included in this project. It is an essential piece. I do not understand why it is not being used.

Act Cleared:
Fanfare, it would be out of place between tracks. Furthermore, using this as a sample inside a track would detract from this project if not the track itself.

Sonic 3 Knuckles theme:
Simplistic, a remix isn't necessary for this project, but if someone can do something with it, I think we should let them.
A short remix could make a nice segue between Angel Island and Hydrocity.

Sonic & Knuckles Knuckles theme:
This is more of a song in it's own right. I don't know where it would be put, and it's not essential to do, but if somone can make one, why not?

Gumball Bonus Stage:
Has a very, very different mood from the rest of the soundtrack. Also, it'd be difficult to do something with to make it a song that can be comfortably listened to separately form playing the game.

Glowball Bonus Stage:
This is an actual song. I would very much like to hear a remix of this. I don't know where it could be fit into the project, though.

Slot Machine Bonus Stage:
See comments for Gumball Bonus Stage.

Chaos Emerald Fanfare:
More of a sound effect. Could possibly be used at the end of the special stage theme without being detrimental it.

Sonic 3 Super Sonic Theme:
Was annoying in the game, but mostly just because it was too fast. I think we should have a remix of both this and the S&K super sonic theme. This could serve as Super Sonic, and be placed before (or after) one of the Boss themes.

Sonic & Knuckles Super Sonic Theme:
Was much less annoying in the game. Except that I ended up hearing it instead of all the other songs. I think this should be included in the project, and be placed between the Final Boss theme and the Doomsday theme. Preferably with the Doomsday theme being the latter.

Sonic 3 Extra Life Fanfare:
Please don't use this in your remixes for this project. I want this project to be good.

Sonic & Knuckles Extra Life Fanfare:
Please don't use this in your remixes for this project, either. It would be disruptive.

Continue Fanfare:
Comments regarding the extra life fanfares also apply to this.

Race Results:
If we're having the themes from the race stages, why not the music from the results screen? On the other hand, why are we having the themes from the race stages, where do they fit in?

Drown Warning:
I wouldn't be overly upset it this were used in the Hydrocity remix. Just a little, though.

Game Over:
Well, I think we're going for a good ending here...

Sonic 3 Act 1 Boss Theme:
I think this would make a nice addition to the list. It's nothing like the S&K version. We could spread the boss themes more evenly through the rest of the songs.

Sonic 3 Ending Fanfare:
10 seconds long, slight variation on the S3 Super Sonic theme. No place in this project.

Sonic & Knuckles Ending Fanfare:
10 seconds long, slight variation on the S&K Super Sonic theme. No place in this project.

Sonic & Knuckles Credits:
This is mostly just a mix of a bunch of themes from S&K, remixing this would overlap Mushroom Hill, Lava Reef, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Death Egg(?), Sky Sanctuary, and S&K Super Sonic. Remixing this could very well be pointless.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Hidden Palace:
This track should be included in this project. It is an essential piece. I do not understand why it is not being used.


As I said on the front page, this will be considered mixed in with Lava Reef sicne they basically sound the same.

[Upthorn]

Hidden Palace:
This track should be included in this project. It is an essential piece. I do not understand why it is not being used.


As I said on the front page, this will be considered mixed in with Lava Reef sicne they basically sound the same.

I didn't see that, sorry. That stated, I disagree.
While there are some similarities between Lava Reef and Hidden Palace, namely sharing a supporting melodic theme, Hidden Palace's main melody is quite distinct from Lava Reef's.

I suppose, though, that if the one transitions from Lava Reef to Hidden Palace, that would be fair...

Edit: I feel like pointing out that you Did ask for input on the tracks that aren't being used. And it is my opinion that this project would be incomplete without a Hidden Palace remix.

Edit 2: It's always nice to refresh the thread after editing a post, and find that a moderator echoed your sentiment.

[DarkeSword]

Hidden Palace:
This track should be included in this project. It is an essential piece. I do not understand why it is not being used.


As I said on the front page, this will be considered mixed in with Lava Reef sicne they basically sound the same.

No, they are not the same; the songs share a continuo line; however, the melodies are different, and they are even listed as separate zones. Excluding Hidden Palace Zone is excluding a very important song in the game.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

And that my freind, will be up to the Lava Reef remixer.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Hidden Palace:
This track should be included in this project. It is an essential piece. I do not understand why it is not being used.


As I said on the front page, this will be considered mixed in with Lava Reef sicne they basically sound the same.

No, they are not the same; the songs share a continuo line; however, the melodies are different, and they are even listed as separate zones. Excluding Hidden Palace Zone is excluding a very important song in the game.

OK, I'll make Hidden Palace seperate. :roll:

[DarkeSword]

Hidden Palace:
This track should be included in this project. It is an essential piece. I do not understand why it is not being used.


As I said on the front page, this will be considered mixed in with Lava Reef sicne they basically sound the same.

No, they are not the same; the songs share a continuo line; however, the melodies are different, and they are even listed as separate zones. Excluding Hidden Palace Zone is excluding a very important song in the game.

OK, I'll make Hidden Palace seperate. :roll:

DON'T ROLL YOUR EYES AT ME I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU

(cool :))

[-RK-]

a first early snapshot of my wip....
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3683

got a nice groove goin....

GameBox, what do you use to mix with? What program I mean. Second, is this onoly supposed to be 19 seconds?

And third, If you use FL, I think a collab would be in order. We could compete, but my song is coming along slightly similar to yours (I'll have mine up later though, very busy lately), so I think a collab would make this song teh sweet. :lol:

AIM or PM me if interested or whateva.

[Hadyn]

Sonic & Knuckles Super Sonic Theme:
Was much less annoying in the game. Except that I ended up hearing it instead of all the other songs. I think this should be included in the project, and be placed between the Final Boss theme and the Doomsday theme. Preferably with the Doomsday theme being the latter.


I could consider adding it to the end of my mix, as part of a transition to the doomsday theme?

I'm not sure how it'll sound though - going from my dark mood, to a happy, fast theme, and then to a theme of impending DOOOOOOOOM.

hose.

It could work.

[Upthorn]

Sonic & Knuckles Super Sonic Theme:
Was much less annoying in the game. Except that I ended up hearing it instead of all the other songs. I think this should be included in the project, and be placed between the Final Boss theme and the Doomsday theme. Preferably with the Doomsday theme being the latter.


I could consider adding it to the end of my mix, as part of a transition to the doomsday theme?

I'm not sure how it'll sound though - going from my dark mood, to a happy, fast theme, and then to a theme of impending DOOOOOOOOM.

hose.

It could work.

Well, I'm picturing it in my head as this:

Huge, evil scary boss. Evil scary boss music.
It looks like the end for our hero, until he goes Hyper-Sonic, and trounces the big evil scary boss. (What? Isn't that how you always played: "You may be big and scary, but I have more than 50 rings. Sucks to be you.")

Only to have him run away into a spaceship with the Master Emerald. (Which is what the Doomsday zone is, hypersonic has to catch up with the Doctor, and save the Master Emerald.)