OCR01989 - Chrono Trigger ' ...And in Her Self-Loathing and Despair, She Found Wrath'

[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[Mr. X]

I have been a huge fan of this since I heard it on myspace. Glad to see its finally on OCR

[Monobrow]

Not a huge fan of metal myself, but color me impressed <3

[MechaFone]

This remix is fantastic. Excellent job!

[Brandon Strader]

I love almost all forms of metal. I really enjoy this remix.

The production is really top notch on this. The kick is nice and punchy, and the drums are present but not over the top. I love the pinch harmonics and stompbox usage halfway through, and the following clean breakdowns are really clean and open.

My only complaints are that maybe the song is a little TOO clean, and also the lack of vocals. It's a great listen without them but you can't deny for a metalcore song, the vocals are almost a necessity. ;)

GREAT Work, I've loved every song I've heard from you so far. Thanks!

[Rhythmroo]

:thumbsup: Felt the whole mix was great, a pleasure to listen too and loved the kicks. :D

[nrich]

guitars felt too digital and washed out, they could've benefit from more tape saturation (maybe more variance, too? open string chugs are almost too obvious). at least the drums didn't sound TOO programmed like most people have them, but again, also could've benefit from some compression and saturation to bring out the "crack" in the snare. the cymbals bothered me a little as well. the arrangement is all right, i wasn't that impressed and all the dissonant riffs in the breakdowns were cheap (bands like korn abuse them, it's been done) but yknow, it's metalcore. loule

[LuIzA]

Thanks everyone for the kind words. :D

guitars felt too digital and washed out, they could've benefit from more tape saturation (maybe more variance, too? open string chugs are almost too obvious).

which guitars? the leads are recorded with a PocketPOD or just direct with plug-ins, but the rhythms are recorded through a tube amp, so if those sounded digital, the whole purpose was defeated haha. And the open string chugs ARE obvious, that's what I love about metalcore. :) breakdowns \m/

[Shade]

This is exactly what often-mixed songs need! Balls, chunk, and breakdowns - as many breakdowns as possible. I never realized how well Schala lent itself to melodeath harmonies.

Really great drum programming for the most part, but to my ears, the clean break might have sounded better without that rim hit sound, and with a bit more low end (maybe some reverb too?) to the bass drum. The clicky triggered-sounding bass is great with low riffs, but at least until the clean chords really come in, it feels like you should be able to hear more of it.

[MrKrueger]

My eyes always brighten when I see a LuIzA mix posted. And this one definitely doesn't disappoint. What can I say, I'm a sucker for a metal remix of any game song. Great job on this remix! \oo/

[ella guro]

Good stuff! I had serious reservations about something as melancholy and ethereal-sounding as Schala's theme being interpreted in this genre, but I think LuIzA pulled it off about as well as anyone could hope to.

[LuIzA]

The clicky triggered-sounding bass is great with low riffs, but at least until the clean chords really come in, it feels like you should be able to hear more of it.

I totally agree... I wanted to do that, but at the time I didn't know how I could automate a Superior 2.0 individual track.

[Brandon Strader]

tube amp

^ Win.

Just sounded a little too clean. 'Disagree' with digital comment.

[SwordBreaker]

Been a fan of this ever since DoD and it's WIP stages. Glad you finally returned to the scene via this mix, LuIzA. As always, it doesn't disappoint. I can listen to the Tom Morello influences clearly. :)

Keep it up, dudet. Your CT mixes are hyping me up to actually play the game. Yep, hard to believe that I have not played this game yet.

You never posted Dimensional Horizons in OCR, btw. That track still rocks! Could use some remastering like Fire Cross and it'll be ready for more exposure.

[Radiowar]

this is amazing. can't think of anything else to say. reminds me of stemage's version of brinstar sort of. f yeah

[LuIzA]

You never posted Dimensional Horizons in OCR, btw. That track still rocks! Could use some remastering like Fire Cross and it'll be ready for more exposure.

now that you said it, I thought of posting it, but the reason I haven't is because it's 8+ minutes long, so the mp3 would have to be pretty shitty in quality to make it fit 6Mb.
Now that the limit increased to 8Mb, I'll consider doing it, just gotta see if it won't hurt the quality AND perhaps solve my personal issues with the song (and find the files haha)... But again, thank you for taking your time to record vocals for it.

[KyleJCrb]

I've been listening to this for months, and it never gets old. Luiza has really honed her craft and expanded her capabilities over the years, and this is just the culmination of that. Personally, it's the best remix of Schala's theme, in the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMuO-8S_0Wg).

[zyko]

very cool stuff

[Dunther]

Wow, better than the still great DoD version :D awesome!

[Joshua Morse]

This is quite amazing; really creative stuff, LuIzA!

[SwordBreaker]

now that you said it, I thought of posting it, but the reason I haven't is because it's 8+ minutes long, so the mp3 would have to be pretty shitty in quality to make it fit 6Mb.
Now that the limit increased to 8Mb, I'll consider doing it, just gotta see if it won't hurt the quality AND perhaps solve my personal issues with the song (and find the files haha)... But again, thank you for taking your time to record vocals for it.

No probs, dudet. It was fun doing those. If you need me to re-record them, I think I can manage to do so as soon as I'm done with exams. Just holler.

And yeah Dunther, this is better than the DoD version. The volume is of the overall mix is actually higher I suppose. :)

[Djinn]

This is right up my alley. Thanks for turning in one of the best Schala mixes I've ever heard!

[Sixto]

Good lord, this track is awesome! Those rhythm guitars sound really meaty. Tight-as-hell playing on the riffs. Reminds me of Nekofrog's stuff. Wish the lead was a little louder, but awesome nonetheless. That whammy pedal/killswitch bit was so great, too. Make more of this stuff!

[ambient]

Wow, this track is awesome! Definitely a standout remix of this theme. Love the guitar work, absolutely amazing, and the interpretation of the theme is great. Still, got some reservations. It wanders around too much for my taste. Rather than developing it kinda jumps around in different directions. They do flow, but as soon as I start enjoying the riffs and percs it jumps to something different.

But it is a matter of taste. Maybe I just listen to too much progressive house/trance, which are all about repetition and slow buildup.

Awesome job! Keep it up!

[Darth Magus]

I like this. Heavy and emotional. Well done.

Admittedly, I think "Cessation of Mammon" was better. Ashane and you made one of the best Schala mixes I've ever heard with that one. Perhaps if OCR ever changes that format you could post that here, but as it stands "Loathing" is a great alternative. I look forward to hearing more from you in the future. :)

[KyleJCrb]

Admittedly, I think "Cessation of Mammon" was better.

I talked to Luiza about that one. She HATES it. I mean, loathes it. Literally. She won't even listen to it.

[Darth Magus]

I talked to Luiza about that one. She HATES it. I mean, loathes it. Literally. She won't even listen to it.

No kidding? I would never have guessed that. I've been a big Chrono fan since the game came out years ago and I've listened to just about every CT/CC mix out there that I can find... I consider that mix one of the best. I guess it is easy to get tired of a song after a while though, if you created it. Radiohead and "Creep" come to mind.

[LuIzA]

it's true. that song was never finished. I absolutely hate my voice in it, and writing the lyrics was a pretty painful experience. I mean how do you like Queen Zeal and Schala having the same voice? with an accent, no less? haha
I really don't like writing at all, so when you consider I was a below national average writer (when it came to everything but spelling/grammar) back in high school, I'm sure you can picture just how painful it was to get those lyrics out in a day. Most of the song's work was done 3 days before the DoD deadline at the time, so I waited until most of it was done before writing...
maybe I'd feel differently about it if it was ever finished, and I have no real idea why it was never, but (with all due respect) I think Ashane has far better works than this...

EDIT: before the "question" (for the lack of a better word) is raised, the making of this song has nothing to do with "Cessation..." or the fact it was never finished.

[Darth Magus]

it's true. that song was never finished. I absolutely hate my voice in it, and writing the lyrics was a pretty painful experience. I mean how do you like Queen Zeal and Schala having the same voice? with an accent, no less? haha
I really don't like writing at all, so when you consider I was a below national average writer (when it came to everything but spelling/grammar) back in high school, I'm sure you can picture just how painful it was to get those lyrics out in a day. Most of the song's work was done 3 days before the DoD deadline at the time, so I waited until most of it was done before writing...
maybe I'd feel differently about it if it was ever finished, and I have no real idea why it was never, but (with all due respect) I think Ashane has far better works than this...

EDIT: before the "question" (for the lack of a better word) is raised, the making of this song has nothing to do with "Cessation..." or the fact it was never finished.

Well, for an unfinished song I thought it was very good. But, then again I might be biased towards CT/CC music. Nonetheless, this is about your new song, not an old one, so I'll stop doting on about past mixes. Whatever the case may be, I can only hope that you continue to crank out quality tunes such as "Loathing".

[big giant circles]

very very cool track. love it!

[Cyril the Wolf]

So basically, in the middle of this song I forgot that I was resting my voice, so then I started screaming along with random lyrics vaguely based on the title...

Yea, so I didn't get to do that for very long, stupid illness.

But, its awesome, its not just Metalcore, its exemplary of every metalcore band EVER and it also features some guest spots by Tom Morello, if he were to ever do metalcore.

Great job!

[evktalo]

The existence of this mix improves my life. Thank you.

--Eino

[Zidane]

Hah, thanks, now I can feel like a badass listening to Schala's Theme. Rad.

[OA]

Awesome effects on some of the guitars, and great drum programming. Great chugs, and some really inspired ideas. Easily one of my favorites From Luiza.

[Audity]

prty amazing for a schala remix. I really wish the ending would do what it does, BUT have a final, finishing sustaining blow so to speak. As it is now it merely fades out basically (not technically, but musically). And, given all the uniqueness beforehand, I'm sure something great could've been whipped up for the end.

[Bradums]

Very well done. It was very drum-driven, and the guitar kept a steady tone for the theme. It gave it a metalcore sound without taking away from the melancholy nature of the song.

You should work on it some more, though. Not saying it's not a complete song, but it'd be awesome to see what else you could add to the metalcore Schala's Theme.

[Bahamut]

To be honest, this isn't as gritty as I was expecting from the mix writeup heh. It seems to be mixed on the more quiet side from what I can tell, which is unfortunate :-( .

As everyone else has said though, this is pretty damn creative for a Schala mix. It makes me wonder why don't more people try to take artistic liberties, instead of attempting the same hashed out versions in the same hashed out styles.

Can't wait to hear more, you've improved quite a bit from when I heard Fire Cross ~5 years back!

[veeboy]

This is simply awesome! hehe

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

This is such a badass mix. Guys... this Brazillian chick makes better metal than most of the rest of us. Love everything about this mix.

[Emunator]

Nice take on a great theme, you definitely tread a lot of new ground here stylistically. Everything is appropriately grungy and crunchy for the genre you chose to remix in :-)

Everything you put out there seems to be an opus in its own respect, LuIzA, and you haven't given any indication that you'll do anything but improve your craft in the future. Keep it up!

[Platonist]

this mix is full-on bad-ass! you've come a really long way LuIzA, i've always loved your remixes, and this one is no exception.
Great programming and guitarplay! Top Notch. 8-)
also, i love how the lead guitar somewhat feels like it's in the background. :nicework:

sidenote:
did anyone else notice that this is the 100:th chrono trigger remix on the site? ^^

[LuIzA]

also, i love how the lead guitar somewhat feels like it's in the background. :nicework:

sidenote:
did anyone else notice that this is the 100:th chrono trigger remix on the site? ^^

that was intentional actually. I was hoping placing the lead a little to the back would draw attention to the rhythm guitars.

sidenote: it is??

[KyleJCrb]

Taking into account medleys with Chrono Cross and other games, yes it is (http://ocremix.org/game/16/chrono-trigger-snes/remixes?&offset=0&sort=). Just by itself though, it's only the 93rd.

[Martin Penwald]

I like how varied the remix is. As has been said before, the individual parts are rather short, but they're long enough to appreciate them, and the frequent changes make this remix a blast to listen to.

Furthermore, I like the sound of the guitars. Right up my alley.

[jumpalexei]

I first played this game when it first came out and I still remember how good the soundtrack is. Schala's Theme is one of my favourite tracks and this mix is kick-ass.

[Rozovian]

While the rest of the track is "only" great, the 0:20-31 is nothing short of stellar. Was haunting me for weeks, when I was at work, when I was outdoors, when I was in town; it just started playing in my head. If that's not a sign of success, I don't know what is. :D

[LuIzA]

A remastered version in on my YouTube Channel (http://www.youtube.com/luiza177music). check it out!

[Kuolema]

I actually only played Chrono Trigger a few months ago, but I was able to identify almost every source just from listening to mixes from this site. Needless to say, I think this song is very good. My favorite version of Schala's theme I think!