View Full Version : OCR Mascot Bio Project - Idling
KyleJCrb
03-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Which is interesting, considering those were the first OCR album projects. It seems that as more albums come out, it takes longer and longer to produce them.
Also, RotC wasn't over 5 hours long. ;)
Hedgehog Heaven took 2.5 years, so I guess it's the odd one out in the early album releases.
Dafydd
03-08-2009, 04:48 PM
Which is interesting, considering those were the first OCR album projects. It seems that as more albums come out, it takes longer and longer to produce them.
Probably because there's like 25 of them running at the same time these days.
Murmeli Walan
03-08-2009, 06:54 PM
Probably because there's like 25 of them running at the same time these days.
Yeah, being run by losers who have no clue about the hard work and effort that goes into a project of that scope.
*cough*
Liontamer
04-11-2009, 02:25 PM
MASCOTS LINKED! (Thanks, djp!)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/polo_83/moena_eyes.gif
THANK YOU!
Dafydd
04-11-2009, 06:19 PM
What do you mean they're LINKED? It doesn't work for me...
Liontamer
04-11-2009, 06:20 PM
What do you mean they're LINKED? It doesn't work for me...
So clear your cache. You don't think Polo would have posted that animated GIF if they didn't work, do you? :lol:
Dafydd
04-11-2009, 06:22 PM
I hate it when this happens. I reloaded the page and now it works.
THANK YOU!!!
EDIT: I noticed watkinzez isn't listed as an editor in the main article. Hum. Was he or do I just think he was because of how many writeups he did? Anyway, I hope we get feedback if there are new games to be added to the appearances lists as more games are being added to the site's database. An announcement might also be nice (or maybe it's more fun letting people discover the new feature on their own :D ).
Dunther
04-11-2009, 07:32 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeee
Darklink42
04-11-2009, 08:11 PM
Works for me. So glad to finally see it in action.
*confetti*
Palpable
04-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Awesome to see this working. Now I can finally figure out who some of these crazy cats are!
Dafydd
04-11-2009, 10:06 PM
That's weird, I'm sure someone (probably LT) wrote here in this thread that if this project was ever completed I would get a project coordinator badge emblazoned under my username. And now I can't find the post... :<
Liontamer
04-12-2009, 12:24 PM
Added a forum title for you, David. GLORY!
Also, I went through myself and manually added mascot pics into each of the entries, and also changed the companies in the "Created by" sections to the OCR organization links, or MobyGames/Wikipedia where applicable. My fault for not asking you guys to handle either before.
I'll see what to do with djp about an announcement.
KyleJCrb
04-12-2009, 12:31 PM
Even though I haven't seen the mascots for several years now, (using the Dark Skin (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5648&highlight=Dark+Skin)) this was an awesome idea and I'm glad to see it finally come to it's full, final realization. Nice work on those bios, folks!
(I) changed the companies in the "Created by" sections to the OCR organization links
Yeah, I was gonna bring that up. I for one appreciate said links changed to intrasite company pages, like how they (and ReMixed games) are linked in the Interview articles.
I'm glad the repeat mascots sharing one bio all show up on their respective pages. By that extension, if it's not too much trouble, could we have the Darkstalker mascots appear on the Darkstalkers Category page?
Personally, I think it's fair game if djp noted the clickability feature in a writeup. We can keep this thread open for bio readers to point out mistakes/broken links for us to fix, or general feedback.
I noticed watkinzez isn't listed as an editor in the main article. Hum. Was he or do I just think he was because of how many writeups he did?
You, Linearity, and I are the editors. Remember all the nitpicking we went through in getting them polished for the site? LT then graced us three with our haloed Wiki accounts because of his trust in us. :salute:
Also, congrats on your new EMBLAZONED title. :-)
Liontamer
04-12-2009, 01:03 PM
You editors get a title too; I want folks to be able to find you guys and contact you whenever they have questions, so you all get GLORY!
DarkeSword
04-12-2009, 02:52 PM
This project is stupid and you are all stupid.
I mean...
Uh...
Dafydd
04-12-2009, 07:13 PM
Added a forum title for you, David. GLORY!
Also, I went through myself and manually added mascot pics into each of the entries, and also changed the companies in the "Created by" sections to the OCR organization links, or MobyGames/Wikipedia where applicable. My fault for not asking you guys to handle either before.
I'll see what to do with djp about an announcement.
Wow, thanks man, for the title and all the other stuff you did. We didn't know how to handle the pics because you said DJP was going to code it so that there wouldn't be a pic in the actual bio, but when a mascot was clicked it would stay the same when the wiki page loaded. Something about the impact on bandwidth it would have to load two mascot images at the same time...eeeh. Anyway, thanks a lot for fixing it for us, and the other stuff.
You, Linearity, and I are the editors. Remember all the nitpicking we went through in getting them polished for the site? LT then graced us three with our haloed Wiki accounts because of his trust in us. :salute:
Also, congrats on your new EMBLAZONED title.
I remember, I just don't remember watkinzez not being part of all that. Congrats to you too. *high fives*
I think my Toejam and Earl bio could do with some editing, still. I read it and didn't really like it very much. I'll try to do something about it soon...
Liontamer
04-12-2009, 07:20 PM
We didn't know how to handle the pics because you said DJP was going to code it so that there wouldn't be a pic in the actual bio, but when a mascot was clicked it would stay the same when the wiki page loaded. Something about the impact on bandwidth it would have to load two mascot images at the same time...eeeh.
Nah, too tough. Ultimately, we can bear the bandwidth, and the mascot changing up top made djp click through them en masse to randomly read the bios, so I see other fans doing the same. Thus it's not a bug, it's a feature. :-)
Palpable
04-12-2009, 08:53 PM
Nah, too tough. Ultimately, we can bear the bandwidth, and the mascot changing up top made djp click through them en masse to randomly read the bios, so I see other fans doing the same. Thus it's not a bug, it's a feature. :-)
Yep, that's exactly what I did too. I thought that was cool.
Darklink42
04-12-2009, 09:52 PM
I had a lot of fun helping nit pick. It's one of the first times I actually got to put my damn english classes to good use. That and counter-pointing with Polo was a lot of fun too.
Linearity
04-13-2009, 03:30 AM
I thought I'd never see the day. But, here it is; excellent.
Good work, everybody.
Dafydd
04-13-2009, 09:52 AM
You too buddy, thanks for everything. And indeed, a winner is us :)
I assume a Street Fighter IV ReMix is set to be posted soon, cuz I saw the title added to several appearance lists. What system are we going with, Arcade ('08) or PlayStation 3 ('09)? I see a lot of the former, but if that's the case, then Dan, Sakura, Cammy, Gen, and Rose cannot have it in their appearance lists. Suppose we get a Soul Calibur II mix and it's listed under PS2. Heihachi would have it linked in his list, but not Link, who appears in the GameCube port. Just as ReMixes can only be categorized under one system, we strive to do the same to titles for every appearance list they're in.
Also, is it just my end, or is there a lot of tall, unused space between the Darkstalkers and the "What Is" text on the DS Category page?
I think my Toejam and Earl bio could do with some editing, still. I read it and didn't really like it very much. I'll try to do something about it soon...
Really? I think it's one of the more comprehensive and fun bios to read (the first paragraph draws me right in). But I understand how you feel. The same thought strikes me sometimes when I read some of my own bios.
Liontamer
04-13-2009, 01:15 PM
I assume a Street Fighter IV ReMix is set to be posted soon, cuz I saw the title added to several appearance lists. What system are we going with, Arcade ('08) or PlayStation 3 ('09)? I see a lot of the former, but if that's the case, then Dan, Sakura, Cammy, Gen, and Rose cannot have it in their appearance lists. Suppose we get a Soul Calibur II mix and it's listed under PS2. Heihachi would have it linked in his list, but not Link, who appears in the GameCube port. Just as ReMixes can only be categorized under one system, we strive to do the same to titles for every appearance list they're in.
The console exclusive characters were listed under the console release, which was in 2009. The PS3 & 360 releases were the same day, so I picked PS3. The other characters in SF4 were already part of 2008's arcade release. And there's no SF4 mix planned; it's just an important recent game appearance to note.
Also, is it just my end, or is there a lot of tall, unused space between the Darkstalkers and the "What Is" text on the DS Category page?
That doesn't happen in Chrome, but djp's already aware of the issue and will be working to fix that; that's an issue with all category pages, not just Darkstalkers.
anosou
04-14-2009, 12:13 PM
I can't click shit :(
Dafydd
04-14-2009, 12:14 PM
So clear your cache. :lol:
Quoted for great justice! All I did was reload the page, then it worked. And I had to do this on every computer I use.
anosou
04-14-2009, 12:35 PM
Quoted for great justice! All I did was reload the page, then it worked. And I had to do this on every computer I use.
Kick ASS. Great stuff, I've been longing for this project since I first saw it :D
Dafydd
04-14-2009, 12:49 PM
I had nearly forgotten about it myself. Eheh... :oops:
WillRock
04-14-2009, 02:34 PM
Great idea guys its a cool new site function :P
just like to point out that in jin kazama's page, it says that jun was killed by ogre, with isn't confirmed in the story -
'It is assumed that Jun was attacked and possibly killed by Ogre between Tekken 2 and Tekken 3. However, this still has yet to be confirmed.' - http://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Jun_Kazama#Trivia
Still, its a nitpick of nitpicks, great work on this.
Dafydd
04-14-2009, 02:38 PM
Thanks, Willrock. Reports like this are encouraged. If anyone else finds errors in the bios, please tell us!
I will delegate verification of this to my, ehum, associates.
just like to point out that in jin kazama's page, it says that jun was killed by ogre, with isn't confirmed in the story -
'It is assumed that Jun was attacked and possibly killed by Ogre between Tekken 2 and Tekken 3. However, this still has yet to be confirmed.' - http://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Jun_Kazama#Trivia
Thank you for pointing that out. In addition to the link you gave, I cross-checked sources on Wikipedia and they too note that Jin's mother is missing rather than killed. Jin's bio has been updated accordingly.
Thin Crust
04-17-2009, 09:26 PM
Woah. I just saw Otacon up there and I was like, when was he ever part of the list of mascots? Then I went to this thread and I saw that the project was done! I haven't clicked a single mascot yet, but believe me, I'm going to have some fun here. Thanks guys.
Sweetness! Rock on everyone who helped make this happen!
The Derrit
05-06-2009, 06:30 AM
Hey,
I've been going through the mascots for WAAAAYYY too long. good job!
One concern, Captain falcon has also been in f-zero x for 64, fzero gx and ax for gamecube and arcade, and the rest of the smash bros. games. just so that list is complete; right now it only has the original f-zero and smash bros for 64.
Dafydd
05-06-2009, 09:30 AM
Most of the smash bros games probably didn't exist when the article for Captain Falcon was first written, so that's probably why they're not listed. I will add F-Zero GX to the Captain Falcon's list of appearances, but not the other ones you mentioned, since they don't have remixes on the site yet.
EDIT: So, who thinks it would be nice to have some bios for the post counts? Some of them already have them (but they'd need to get linked up, of course).
Liontamer
06-04-2009, 10:53 AM
EDIT: So, who thinks it would be nice to have some bios for the post counts? Some of them already have them (but they'd need to get linked up, of course).
Sounds like a good idea. I also have a character bio request that I need someone to fulfill for the site within the next couple of days. It wouldn't be anything too intensive, but would be helpful. If you're a Mascots project contributor that would be willing to help, lemme know here in the thread, please. :-) After that, I do have some other characters that would need to be written up, again, nothing too intensive, but I'm hoping to get a couple of mascots added related to some cool contests we're planning!
I'm interested, both in the post count bios and in LT's request(s). I should note that my computer's been bugging out on me lately, hindering my chances to get/stay online, so I can't guarantee submitting in a timely manner.
Two questions: What would we do for Sheng Long (http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Other/Features/Top%207/2008-03-17%20SF%20win%20quotes/Screens/ShengLong--article_image.jpg)? And is djp gonna change "Bonus-Kun" to "Bonus kun"?
Dafydd
06-04-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm glad you want to help with this Polo, because, depending on what characters we're talking about, I might not be able to. I'm glad some more mascots are about to be added, too. But we're going to leave making the mascot images to djp as usual, right?
Also, unless anyone has anything against it, I would like to rewrite parts of the bios I already wrote. Some of the sentences just don't sound right.
we're going to leave making the mascot images to djp as usual, right?
Yes. :lol: Any mascots I make are for fun, but if djp uses one I "nominate" this way (made by his hand), awesome.
Also, unless anyone has anything against it, I would like to rewrite parts of the bios I already wrote. Some of the sentences just don't sound right.
Go ahead. Fix 'em up for great justice.
Darklink42
06-05-2009, 12:44 AM
If I could, can I also volunteer my help in writing bios? As much as I loved editing, I'd really like to try my hand at writing some this time around.
The Coop
06-05-2009, 04:07 AM
So the characters are being kept secret, eh? Well, if any new one's should happen to be from the Darkstalkers saga, I'd be happy to tackle it.
Dafydd
06-05-2009, 11:38 AM
Great, I'm glad to see people are still interested in this. Looks like when Larry drops the bomb we'll be ready. Remember: duck... and cover.
Liontamer
06-05-2009, 04:20 PM
Thanks a lot for the response, guys, I appreciate it. I'm gonna have some more for you guys to do, but I just have a brief but I think fun one from an upcoming game.
I'd like someone to write up a bio for the Tap Runner from Prope & Sega's Let's Tap, produced in part by Sonic creator Yuji Naka. It'll be the blue Tap Runner if you need to know. :-)
Obviously Tap Runner isn't rich with an in-universe narrative, but a summary of the various courses/obstacles he deals with and some insight as to how the character works with the game mechanics of Let's Tap will cover all bases we need.
Thanks to whomever is brave enough to tackle this! Have fun!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3453/3294196405_c16ac5d0b8.jpg
Potential Sources:
http://www.sega.com/games/lets-tap/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Tap
http://www.flickr.com/photos/segaamerica/3444646805/ (Figurine pic)
Google Image search (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&um=1&sa=1&q=%22Let%27s+Tap%22&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=)
http://nintendo.joystiq.com/tag/lets-tap/
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2009/04/16/lets-learn-about-lets-tap/
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/category/lets-tap/
*raises hand* I'll give the Tap Runner a shot. Thanks for the sources!
Liontamer
06-05-2009, 06:05 PM
*raises hand* I'll give the Tap Runner a shot. Thanks for the sources!
You are a god among men, Polololo!
Ha ha, high compliments from one of the hardest workers in the community!
Tap Runner
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/polo_83/ocr_mascot_blank.png (to be filled in by djp)
Article by: Polo (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Let's Tap
Created by: Prope (http://www.prope.jp/)
First appearance: 2008
Bio
Developed by Prope founder Yuji Naka and his colleagues and published by Sega, Let's Tap is a Wii title that eschews the common "handheld controller" conduit of gameplay. The Wiimote is placed facedown on a flat surface, one which the player taps with their hands, and the Wiimote responds to the pressure and frequency of the vibrations. This drumlike intuition is key to welcoming multiplayer gaming, emphasized in the five minigames of Let's Tap.
The first minigame, Tap Runner, is played on a neon-like side-scrolling racecourse and features glowing stick figures of the same name (blue, pictured, is Player 1). On their way to the finish line, the Tap Runners are met with a myriad of hazards including hurdles, tightropes, falling blocks, and electric orbs, but also advantages like ramps, springs, warp points, and speed-booster rings. Judicious taps overcome each challenge: a hard tap makes a Tap Runner jump a hurdle or gain air when coming off a ramp; rhythmic taps keep him jogging or sprinting depending on the player's own speed; light taps keep one's balance on the tightropes; hasty taps fill up a balloon faster to fly farther along the course; and so on. As with the other minigames, it's all in the taps.
Selected game appearances
=== Wii ===
Let's Tap ( 2008 )
References
Wikipedia - "Let's Tap" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Tap)
Sega :: Games :: Let's Tap (http://www.sega.com/games/lets-tap/)
IGN.com - "TGS 2008: Let's Tap Hands-on" (http://wii.ign.com/articles/917/917968p1.html)
Eurogamer.net - "Let's Tap - Import Review by Keza MacDonald" (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/lets-tap-review)
Dafydd
06-05-2009, 10:43 PM
Looks good to me. I'm missing a pun about tap/running water though... ;-)
Liontamer
06-05-2009, 11:50 PM
Definitely looking good! That's some fast work; thanks! Y'all feel free to debate any tweaks you'd wanna do, but it looks completely ready to go if you want to just add it right into the Wiki. I can do that if you want, but otherwise go for it!
Added to the Wiki! (sans picture and "OCR Mascot ###" redirect page, of course)
Rozovian
09-01-2009, 03:05 PM
The site showed me a missing pic linked to this (http://www.ocremix.org/info/OCR_Mascot_153). Apparently, there's no mascot 153.
Seems like 152 is the last one.
Dafydd
09-01-2009, 05:04 PM
What do you mean, a "missing pic"? And no, there's no mascot 153. From where were you linked to it?
Rozovian
09-01-2009, 06:38 PM
What do you mean, a "missing pic"? And no, there's no mascot 153. From where were you linked to it?
Missing pic, like this here: http://missing.pic
Saw a big square with no pic in the top-right corner of the site, where the mascots appear. It was linked to mascot 153 which doesn't exist (which is why I posted about it). Probably something in the random number generator used to choose mascots for each page or something that's set a number too high.
Dafydd
09-01-2009, 07:15 PM
Ok. Yeah, that makes sense. This should probably be reported in the site issues forum though, as the random number generator isn't within our control. Will you do it or should I?
Rozovian
09-01-2009, 07:27 PM
I willed. :D
Dafydd
09-01-2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks! 10char
Dafydd
11-09-2009, 11:44 AM
After a good half-hour or so of what seemed like an endless cycling through the same 5 characters, but what was intended as a re-read of the write-ups I did, I stumbled upon this:
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_120.png
This doesn't look much like anything I remember from Super Metroid, and I can't say I like this pic compared to the old one, as it portrays him as more of a thrice-and-front-anused Kremling than the dinosaurian nightmare of a beast he really is. Where is this picture from? The wiki article mentions Super Metroid as the source of the image, but I doubt that's correct anymore.
Darklink42
11-09-2009, 07:23 PM
It's from the official artwork for Metroid: Zero Mission, which is a remake of the first game on the Game Boy Advance.
http://metroid.retropixel.net/metroidzm/artwork/
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Kraid
Dafydd
11-09-2009, 10:09 PM
Got it. I'll update the wiki. Thanks! Sorry for raising your post count :)
EDIT: There! Took the opportunity to make a few edits to some of my own bios while I was at it. I'm still not completely happy with the T&E one. It keeps changing subjects, one sentence about them, the next about the game, and too much info on the game compared to the characters. I'll need to fix it up someday. The X (full armor) one looks much better now though.
EDIT2: About Kraid, I noticed the info in the "pictured from" field was updated and therefore correct. Still, the article was wrong and has now been fixed.
Took the opportunity to make a few edits to some of my own bios while I was at it. I'm still not completely happy with the T&E one.
For one thing, it sounds contradictory to say it's "just another quiet day in space" when the funk is playing in the speakers, plus it repeats the first sentence. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the original wording ("everything was the same as always")...
About Kraid, I noticed the info in the "pictured from" field was updated and therefore correct. Still, the article was wrong and has now been fixed.
Good job catching what I missed to make the article consistent. *thumbs up*
Dafydd
11-11-2009, 04:27 PM
I guess you're right. I'll change it back. Later.
Liontamer
05-21-2010, 08:30 PM
BACK IN ACTION!
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_153.png
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_154.png
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_155.png
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_156.png
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_157.png
Anyone who wants to get in on this is appreciated!
More to come...? (Oh snap.)
LuketheXjesse
05-21-2010, 08:33 PM
Bren McGuire from Turrican 2 and 3 totally needs a bio.
Darklink42
05-21-2010, 09:49 PM
Working on a bio for Scrooge McDuck. Work is getting in the way, but I'll upload the rough draft tonight if anyone wants to give me some feedback on it.
Edit: Actually, a quick question. Should I post it here for feedback, or PM it for approval? And if the latter, to who does it get sent to?
Dafydd
05-22-2010, 03:45 PM
Holy cow! More Mascots! Unfortunately, I played Mass Effect as Jane, otherwise I would have looked into it.
Darklink42, go ahead and post the bio right here in the thread, that's the way we've always done it.
Darklink42
05-22-2010, 08:15 PM
Alright, well here's the rough draft. Should I add more, are there grammatically incorrect things? Rip it up guys, I'd expect no less.
Scrooge McDuck
The richest duck in the world, Scrooge McDuck is not one to be content with just that. Be it from competition with others or just plain ennui from being at the top, he is constantly on the lookout for new ways to make money. Not above adventuring, even for being as old as he is, Scrooge has explored countless famous locations in search of treasures, wealth, and fame.
Scrooge’s first video game appearance is still fondly remembered among gamers, despite not having much of a plot beyond Scrooge hunting for treasure. He hasn’t appeared in many games since then, beyond the sequel to the first Ducktales game. His most notable recent appearance was in Kingdom Hearts 2, where he is said to have helped King Mickey develop the space transit system which links the worlds together. In that game he also has a fondness for sea salt ice cream.
While Scrooge McDuck may seem like a lonely old miser, he actually has two famous relations. He is the uncle to both Donald Duck and, more eminently, the triplets Huey, Louie, and Dewey. His relationship to all of his nephews has softened quite a bit over time, as they have gone on adventures together.
Dafydd
05-22-2010, 08:54 PM
Some suggestions/nitpicks:
"aside from the sequel to that first Duck Tales game".
"even for being as old as he is" -> "even for his respectable age"
"His most notable recent appearance was in Kingdom Hearts 2, in which he is said to have helped King Mickey develop the space transit system which links the worlds together, and a fondness for sea salt ice cream."
"he actually has two famous relations" sounds like he's had sex in public - twice.
Are you an uncle "to" or "of" your nephew?
"Though initally unenthusiastic and harsh towards all of his nephews, their relationship has softened quite a bit over the many hours spent on adventures together."
I'm sure Polo has even better suggestions though. I'm just a silly Swede. :P
Mirby
05-22-2010, 09:02 PM
What about Launchpad? I think it's good, but change "relations" to "relatives" and it should be fine.
Dafydd
05-22-2010, 09:04 PM
In that case it's 4 relatives.
Darklink42
05-22-2010, 09:04 PM
"he actually has two famous relations" sounds like he's had sex in public - twice.
That just made my day. Good points all around. I'll wait and see what Polo has to say, and post a revision after that.
Edit: Two things.
1. Launchpad is not related (by blood) to Scrooge. He's just his stalwart personal pilot. I remembered that from the cartoon, but I also went and checked just to be safe. The reason I didn't include him is because then I'd have to get into the rest of the cast of Ducktales, and that's a longer bio than I thought was necessary.
2. I was actually pondering whether I can delineate the triplets as one relative or whether they needed to be separately counted. I went for the first option on a coin toss, but I might change it to several to avoid confusion if necessary.
Arek the Absolute
05-22-2010, 09:36 PM
Juri is so mine.
hawt korean chick doing tae kwon doe? yes plz
Posting ASAP
Mirby
05-22-2010, 09:53 PM
Hmm... my bad Darklink. I was just thinking you could mention him somewhere at the end like "as they have gone on adventures together with the aid of his trusty pilot Launchpad." Then, if Darkwing Duck ever became a mascot, it would be a perfect segway to link the two. Then again, your choice.
Dafydd
05-22-2010, 09:59 PM
Yes, that's a quick fix. I approve.
Mirby
05-22-2010, 10:09 PM
Sweet! Glad I could help!
Arek the Absolute
05-22-2010, 11:30 PM
Got a tiny bit done. Using Polo's Ryu bio (http://ocremix.org/info/Ryu) as a guide.
Trying to find Juri's backstory is kinda hard since 1) she is a new character and 2) street fighter + story writing/exposition = lol, so this may take a tiny bit.
Here is what I have done so far :) :
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_153.png
Juri
Article by: Arek The Absolute (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=12255)
Pictured from: Super Street Fighter IV
Created by: Capcom
First appearance: 2010
Bio
Beautiful, enticing, and deadly, Han Juri is a woman that definitely proves that roses do have thorns. Juri enters the second chapter of Capcom's "Street Fighter IV" with a bang. (I always write intro paragraphs last, so this will be fleshed out more later)
(paragraph one: background "juri works for S.I.N./has some mysterious ties with bison etc)
Juri uses Tae Kwon Do as her fighting style of choice, a first for the Street Fighter scene. Many fans of fighting games will immediately draw parallels to SNK's own Kim Kaphwan, but rest assured, she is has more than enough merits to label her unique, as if Capcom was making her a cross-company foil. While Kim Kaphwan fights for justice and is epitomes honor in every sense of the word, Juri, staying true to her alias of "spider," is cold and merciless, always toying with her prey after decimating them in combat. Compassion is a word that she eliminated from her dictionary long ago.
Not only in demeanor, Juri is far more offensive and crafty, utilizing the "Feng Shui Engine" implanted in her eye to it's fullest extent. She excels both at both close and long-range combat, making her an extremely tricky opponent to fight against. Quick and agile, she is able to rack up combos and confuse her opponents. With the "Feng Shui Engine," she is able to empower her Senpusha (a pinwheel-esque spin move similar to SNK fighters Kim and Jhun Hoon's Han Getsu Zan and Mangetsu Zan, respectively), and is able to keep her opponents at bay using Fuhajin, a technique that allows her to shoot or store fireballs from her feet at three different angles.
(conclusion if necessary)
Quote
"No holds barred... It's just what every girl wants."
Selected game appearances
Playstation 3
Super Street Fighter IV (2010)
Xbox 360
Super Street Fighter IV (http://ocremix.org/game/609/super-street-fighter-iv-xb360) (2010)
References
Wikipedia - "Juri" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_characters#Juri)
The Fighter's Generation - "Juri" (http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/juri.html)
Fight-A-Base - "Juri" (http://www.fenixware.net/fab/fab_charMain.asp?id=3799&order=0)
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So yea, that's all I got so far. I will work on getting the back-story soon.
Also, what do you think about this pic for her bio if it was shrunk down?
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np2/ssf4/juri-ssf4-art.jpg
Dafydd
05-22-2010, 11:37 PM
I thought it was "No holes barred". How embarrassing. Anyway, I want one of those Feng Shui Engines (though it sounds more like a fancy plug-in for some furnishing simulator that Madonna would really love).
Nicely written, but it seems to me you assume that the reader has previous knowledge of these Zan fireball people. I don't think it actually needs to be any longer than it already is, so try not to flesh out too much.
Arek the Absolute
05-23-2010, 12:04 AM
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Juri Han
Article by: Arek The Absolute (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=12255)
Pictured from: Super Street Fighter IV
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 2010
Bio
Beautiful, enticing, and deadly, Juri Han is a woman that proves that roses do have thorns. She enters the second chapter of Capcom's Street Fighter IV with a bang.
Juri is one of the central characters in the story of Super Street Fighter IV. Skilled and talented, she mastered the martial art of Tae Kwon Do at the age of 15. Her father was a prominent lawyer in charge of prosecuting criminal organizations, and, similarly to Chun-Li's father, had his eye on taking out Shadaloo. Not hesitating to take action to stop her father, Shadaloo kidnapped him, as well as his wife and Juri. Unfortunately, while in captivity, she lost both of her parents, as well as her left eye. Noticing her exceptional skills, brainwashed her to work for them and replaced her left eye. 10 years has passed since the incident, and now she works under a man named Seth as an agent of S.I.N. under the very appropriate alias, "Spider".
Juri uses Tae Kwon Do as her fighting style of choice, a first for the Street Fighter scene. Many fans of fighting games will immediately draw parallels to SNK's own Kim Kaphwan, but she has more than enough merits to label her unique, as if Capcom was making her a cross-company foil. While Kim Kaphwan fights for justice and epitomizes "honor" in every sense of the word, Juri, staying true to her alias of "Spider", is cold and merciless, always toying with her prey after decimating them in combat. Compassion is a word that she eliminated from her dictionary long ago.
Not only different in demeanor from Kim, Juri is far more offensive and crafty, utilizing the "Feng Shui System" implanted as her left eye to its fullest extent. She excels at both close and long-range combat, making her an extremely tricky opponent to fight against. Quick and agile, she is able to rack up combos and confuse her opponents. With the "Feng Shui System", she is able to empower her pinwheel-esque spin move Senpusha, and is able to keep her opponents at bay using Fuhajin, a technique that allows her to shoot or store fireballs from her feet at three different angles. Intended by game producer Yoshinori Ono to be a character that is easily accessible to those newer to fighting games, Juri is a character that is easy to pick up, yet hard to master, making her a well accepted addition to the vast cast of the Street Fighter series.
Quote
"I enjoyed hearing you scream. I'm looking forward to hearing it again."
Selected game appearances
Xbox 360
Super Street Fighter IV (http://ocremix.org/game/609/super-street-fighter-iv-xb360) (2010)
References
Wikipedia - "Juri" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_characters#Juri)
The Fighter's Generation - "Juri" (http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/juri.html)
Fight-A-Base - "Juri" (http://www.fenixware.net/fab/fab_charMain.asp?id=3799&order=0)
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Hope this makes the cut :)
EDIT: revising to fit the tips polo gave :)
Yo people. My computer's on the fritz, meaning I'm working from my family's computer right now, I'm struggling to stay up-to-date with this latest flood of mascots, and I'm not sure I can write a new bio for the time being. But others can claim their mascots to bio-ify and I'll gladly offer feedback.
Darklink42, just for reference, we typically post a bio the way Arek did, in terms of format and readability. It makes our job easier when we enter it into OCR's Wiki. As for Scrooge's bio:
- You nail that he's wealthy and greedy, but I think it would be more colorful if you explained HOW so. Remember his tall building with the golden money symbol on it? How about noting that he spends time swimming in his sea of coins every now and then? And he's always sporting a top hat and a cane. Plus he keeps his number one dime in a glass jar. All these characteristics I remember off the top of my top hat - who wouldn't? List some of those things as a chance to better personalize your words and the old duck's character.
- Details also work wonders for describing the games he appears in. For the first game, note the treasures he seeks in the 4 corners of the earth plus the moon and the fact that he races against Flintheart Glomgold for the goods. Also, try shining light on why gamers are so fondly attached to his first game through positive aspects (play control? music? the Moon's theme? graphics? all of the above?) rather than resigning with "not having much of a plot beyond Scrooge hunting for treasure." Readers would already know that after reading the first paragraph, so branch out.
- Huey, Dewey, and Louie refer to both Scrooge and Donald Duck as their Uncle - so how can one uncle be the uncle of another uncle?
- Yes, there's Launchpad, as well as Mrs. Beakley, Webbigail, the Beagle Boys and their Ma... It's not a prerequisite to list every acquaintance/enemy in a bio, but it would help if they illustrated their relationship to Scrooge to explain his motives, likes, dislikes, daily life, types of adventures, and so on.
- "His relationship to all of his nephews has softened quite a bit over time, as they have gone on adventures together." You're implying he was originally cold to his nephews without establishing that earlier. This is where better exploring his relationships with the other characters would clarify things.
- Out of personal preference, I'd suggest putting the paragraph about his game appearances at the end. You can start by building his character and how it's colored/influenced by who surrounds him (friend and foe), and THEN dive into his eternal desire to hunt still more treasure in video games of all places.
Not bad for a WIP. But Scrooge deserves something richer (pun intended). Best of efforts with your revision.
Sup Arek, that's a creatively engaging first bio you got there. A few notes:
- The Created by line needs a link to the Capcom page in OCR's database.
- "works under Seth" ("works under a man named Seth" might sound better since the current wording implies the reader knows who or what Seth is)
- So far the Xbox 360 is the system associated with the mix currently on OCR, so we'll keep repeat titles (direct ports with no changes) like the PlayStation 3 one off the game appearance lists (unless a song from that system's port of Super SF4 gets mixed).
- There are spelling and punctuation slip-ups in there, and while we can make the changes ourselves when the bio's Wiki'ed, it never hurts to be careful in the first place. Following cleanup, I think this is a go.
P.S. djp Photoshops the mascots, so pester him if you want that badass pic instead of the one he already supplied.
P.S. 2 - I'm flattered you used one of my bios as a guide. :-D
Arek the Absolute
05-23-2010, 01:37 AM
Glad to hear that you like it. It was definitely fun writing it :)
Was thinking of changing the quote, but I am not sure. Here are the two I might change it to:
-"I enjoyed hearing you scream. I'm looking forward to hearing it again."
-"Don't think we're finished here. We have all night, baby..."
I really like the quote I originally chose, but the problem with it, is that the text alone doesn't carry just how impacting it is compared to when you hear her say it in her intro video.
Thoughts?
Darklink42
05-23-2010, 01:42 AM
- Huey, Dewey, and Louie refer to both Scrooge and Donald Duck as their Uncle so how can one uncle be the uncle of another uncle?
I don't think it's ever really established why Donald and The triplets are cousins, but I think it has something to do with that he is actually their grand-uncle. There's a lot of family tree stuff on wikipedia that I didn't really look at. I'll probably take some time to read it and see what the real deal is, but I do know that Scrooge is the "uncle" to both Donald and the triplets.
Otherwise, thanks for the recommendations Polo and Dafydd. I'll tighten up the bio and add some details, and get you guys the revision as soon as I get back from work tonight.
-"I enjoyed hearing you scream. I'm looking forward to hearing it again."
This quote has more impact - it's specific and directly reflects her cold-bloodedness/lack of compassion (not in her dictionary :D), which is already noted. Someone will interpret the second one as "OMFGSEXLOLRULE34" or a cliffhanger that suggests she bides her time for revenge or is, in fact, a tad sympathetic.
There's a lot of family tree stuff on wikipedia that I didn't really look at.
Unfortunately, I'm guilty of this too. Probably because I'm not writing his bio and am not refreshing my memory that well. :lol:
Glad to work with you guys. Let me know when you're satisfied with your end products.
Arek the Absolute
05-23-2010, 02:49 AM
Definitely satisfied with mine.
I agree with your quote choice, so I changed it :)
Juri is ready to go!
Take care that when you add new stuff, Arek, it doesn't clash with what you already wrote. Regarding the paragraph about Juri's background:
- You repeat that she's in Super Street Fighter IV, she practices Tae Kwon Do, and the Feng Shui System is in her left eye. Decide which mentions you want to keep and where.
- "Unfortunately" halfway through suggests that getting kidnapped was a good thing before something bad then befell her.
- "brainwashed her to work for them, as well as replacing her left eye" --> "brainwashed her to work for them and replaced her left eye"
On the nitpick side, you drop extraneous words here and there; "definitely" in the opening sentence, "Very" in the 2nd paragraph's 2nd sentence, and the phrase "rest assured" later on could be cut to keep the bio sounding less fanboy-enthusiastic and more plainly direct. It's okay to have colorfully descriptive bits ("proves that roses do have thorns" = hot; "as if Capcom was making her a cross-company foil" = heh), but mascot bios do strive to be concise and fairly unbiased.
You're almost there, dude. Check it for a consistent tone and no ugly repeats of sorts.
Arek the Absolute
05-23-2010, 10:22 AM
Gotcha.
Fixing :3
Dafydd
05-23-2010, 12:29 PM
http://duckman.pettho.com/tree/l_us.jpg
Before anyone sorted these things out, I was convinced they were all related as uncles and nephews so that Disney wouldn't have to get into the whole parenting and marriage thing. Both Mickey and Donald have notoriously unreliable relationships with their "girlfriends" Minnie and Daisy, of which at least the latter is in no way a stranger to going out with other "men" (often favoring Donald's own cousin), but at the same time jealous enough to sabotage any of his attempts to see other "women". Imagine all this combined with actual parenting, and Disney would have put themselves into the crossfire of a political debate they would probably rather avoid.
EDIT: Dewey's real name is Deuteronomy? No wonder they call him Dewey.
Darklink42
05-23-2010, 09:50 PM
Yeah, that was my response too. Can you imagine what school would be like with a name like that?
Here's the revision. I think it still needs some tweaks here and there, but I'm happier with it.
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_156.png
Scrooge McDuck
Article by: Taylor Lake (Darklink42) (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=15270)
Pictured from: DuckTales
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 1947 (non game)
Bio
Scrooge McDuck started out from the bottom as a lowly shoe shiner in his native hometown of Glasgow, Scotland. From those humble roots, he’s grown to be the richest duck in the world. His first taste of American currency was a dime he got as a kid, and although he now has a tower filled with gold coins that he swims in, he still keeps that dime in a jar to remind himself and his nephews of the value of hard work. Be it from competition with others or just plain ennui from being at the top, he is constantly on the lookout for new ways to make money. Not above adventuring, even at his distinguished age, Scrooge has explored countless famous locations in search of treasures, wealth, and fame.
For all of his wealth, Scrooge was a lonely old miser for a long time, having little to do with his relatives. He is the uncle of Donald Duck, and more eminently, the great-uncle of the triplets Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Once he started looking after his nephews, and shared some adventures with them, he softened considerably and has since become their beloved “Uncle Scrooge”. Wealth also breeds enemies, and Scrooge has his hands full with the likes of fellow Scotsman and tycoon Flintheart Glomgold, as well as the notorious Beagle Boys, a group of thieves dedicated almost exclusively to robbing him.
Aided by his nephews and his bumbling but loyal pilot Launchpad, Scrooge set out in DuckTales to acquire famous treasures from around the world to reinforce his position as the world’s richest duck. This was his first videogame appearance, and is still remembered fondly by gamers for its challenging game play and catchy soundtrack. Scrooge McDuck hasn’t been in many games since then. In Kingdom Hearts II, his most recent appearance, he helped King Mickey develop the space transit system which links the worlds together. He also has a fondness for sea salt ice cream.
Quote
" I wouldn't miss this for all the scones in Scotland!”
Selected game appearances
NES
• Ducktales (http://ocremix.org/game/50/ducktales-nes)(1990)
Playstation 2
• Kingdom Hearts 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/549/kingdom-hearts-ii-ps2) (2005)
References
• Wikipedia- "Scrooge McDuck" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck)
• Wikipedia- "Ducktales" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckTales)
• Ducktales Instruction Manual
Now edited with current suggestions.
Dafydd
05-23-2010, 11:19 PM
This is great! My only complaints this time are about the last paragraph. The last sentence is too long, and also I would prefer if you changed the first part of the first sentence of that last paragraph into "Aided by his nephews and his bumbling but loyal pilot Launchpad" to avoid confusion.
Mirby
05-23-2010, 11:39 PM
I see you already fixed that. Looks great! Split the last sentence in two. Try this:
Scrooge McDuck hasn’t appeared in many games since then; his most recent appearance was in Kingdom Hearts 2, where he is said to have helped King Mickey develop the space transit system which links the worlds together. He also has a fondness for sea salt ice cream.
Cool revision, Mr. T.L. :) Some notes:
- DuckTales has a capital T, according to Wikipedia and most results in a casual Google search. Yeah, I know the game in OCR's database leaves the "t" lowercase, but we'll go with the commonly accepted spelling. I'll bug the higher-ups about the capitalization (and other bio-related matters) soon.
- I think you mean Disney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company) is the creator of Scrooge; both existed before Capcom and the game based on the cartoon influenced by the comics. But I am happy you wrote (non-game) in the First appearance line.
- "Huey, Louie, and Dewey" --> Not Huey, Dewey, and Louie? (the order doesn't HAVE to be traditional, but I anticipate more than a few people going "wait, don't you mean...")
- "and the notorious Beagle Boys" --> I think "as well as" would fit better than "and", since they and F.G. aren't his only enemies. It also flows more easily after the comma.
- "Scrooge set out in Ducktales" --> You mean the NES game, right? Just make it clear, cuz I first thought you were talking about the cartoon. Also, the next sentence treats that mention as unrelated to Scrooge's first VG appearance. Maybe start the 2nd sentence as "This was his first video game appearance, which is still fondly remembered..." or similar, in order to bridge it cleanly.
- "...to once again claim his title as the world’s richest duck." Do you mean he lost his title or simply wants to maintain it?
- "In his most recent appearance in Kingdom Hearts 2" --> "In Kingdom Hearts II, his most recent appearance,..." sounds more concise, IMO.
- "is said to have helped" can be cut to avoid the passive voice.
So far so good. :D
Darklink42
05-24-2010, 01:01 AM
I went and edited in everyone's suggestions. I didn't change the Capcom part just yet, because I wasn't sure whether I should link that tag to the Disney grouping we already have in the OCR list, or to an outside link. Thanks for the solid input guys.
For now, we can use the Wikipedia link. Once djp and co. flesh out the vast majority of the newly added Organizations, we can consider linking there.
And congrats on completing your first mascot bio, Darklink42. It's now in the database. *applause*
Now that I've got my computer and its Internet working again, I'll go ahead and write Fei Long's bio.
Darklink42
05-26-2010, 01:46 AM
I didn't volunteer on the other bios because I've never played the games they are from, but if no one else ends up taking them, I can do another one.
Also, glad to have finally crossed over to the writer's side of things. :mrgreen:
Fei Long
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_155.png
Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 1993
Bio
It's little wonder that Bruce Lee, a movie actor famed for his flamboyant command of martial arts, could influence the creation of fighting game characters in his image. One need only look to Capcom's Street Fighter series to find one of the most direct personifications of him in any fighting game. His name is Fei Long, and ever since The New Challengers, he's been channeling the outfit, mannerisms, and even the shrieking battle cries of the kung fu legend.
A master of Hitenryu kung fu, Fei Long makes full use of his speed and flexibility to catch his opponents off-guard. If he's close, he can dish out a flurry of aptly named one inch punches, or he can "cartwheel" over his opponent (by half-jumping, half-rolling on his back) as an evasive maneuver. Air attacks include flaming kicks: some spiral upwards, and others end a combo like his ultra in Street Fighter IV. His victory poses also emulate Bruce Lee's fighting spirit, whether he brandishes a pair of nunchakus or assumes a battle stance and emits a wailing taunt.
A movie director took note of Fei Long's prowess and hired him to shoot action films, a career that's evident in Street Fighter Alpha 3. While it's a way to make a living, the Hong Kong fighter is not ultimately satisfied with cinematic fame. He enters the second World Warrior tournament not only to test his grit, but because he feels that choreographed martial arts could never match the real thing.
Quote
"You must learn to block or my speed will always overcome you!"
Selected game appearances
=== Arcade ===
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (http://ocremix.org/game/575/super-street-fighter-ii-the-new-challengers-arc) (1993)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (http://ocremix.org/game/472/super-street-fighter-ii-turbo-arc) (1994)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/576/street-fighter-alpha-2-arc) (1996)
=== Super NES ===
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (http://ocremix.org/game/143/super-street-fighter-ii-the-new-challengers-snes) (1994)
=== PlayStation ===
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/381/street-fighter-alpha-2-ps1) (1996)
=== PlayStation 3 ===
Street Fighter IV (2009)
=== Xbox 360 ===
Super Street Fighter IV (http://ocremix.org/game/609/super-street-fighter-iv-xb360) (2010)
References
Wikipedia - "List of Street Fighter Characters - Fei Long" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_characters#Fei_Long)
The Fighter's Generation - "Fei Long" (http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/feilong.html)
StrategyWiki - "Street Fighter II/Characters/Fei Long" (http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II/Characters/Fei_Long)
Arek the Absolute
05-29-2010, 11:51 AM
Just the motivation I need to finish Juri.
Nicely written, man.
Thanks, yo. May the inspiration work wonders for you.
I also call dibs on T. Hawk.
Dafydd
05-29-2010, 12:16 PM
Nice work, Polo.
T. Hawk
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_157.png
Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 1993
Bio
In the southwestern United States, there lived a tribe of Native Americans called Thunderfoot. Their days of unity were shattered when a crime syndicate called Shadoloo forcibly usurped their land, in the process killing many, enslaving some, and scattering the rest. Thunder Hawk, one of the last survivors of his clan, was an infant when it happened, but he has neither the intention of forgiving the criminals nor the will to give up his heritage to history. Instead, he solemnly vows to take back his homeland and seek out the rest of his kin with his life. What's become of both, he knows not; all he knows is that by entering the second World Warrior tournament, he has a chance to personally bring justice to the head of Shadoloo, the man behind the attack: M. Bison.
Muscular but speedy, merciless in battle yet sympathetic to nature, T. Hawk is a warrior who draws upon the mixed strengths and emotions of generations of a once-proud Native American tribe. As the above image illustrates, his aerial assaults give a literal meaning to his name; he leaps and dives diagonally forward with his arms stretched behind him like a bird of prey, a move which enables him to close in on anyone he fights. Grappling-based beatdowns are where he really cuts loose: T. Hawk grabs his opponent by the head or foot, leaps in the air while spinning them in circles, and smashes them full-force into the ground, sometimes repeatedly. If he executes this barrage as a finishing move, he might even land on his fallen opponent, but in a sitting pose and giving a characteristic open hand salute. Between his moveset and his end goals, T. Hawk desires, above all, to set the spirit of Thunderfoot soaring once again.
Quote
"Your scream sounds like a pathetic war cry!"
Selected game appearances
=== Arcade ===
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (http://ocremix.org/game/575/super-street-fighter-ii-the-new-challengers-arc) (1993)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (http://ocremix.org/game/472/super-street-fighter-ii-turbo-arc) (1994)
=== Super NES ===
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (http://ocremix.org/game/143/super-street-fighter-ii-the-new-challengers-snes) (1994)
=== PlayStation ===
Street Fighter Alpha 3 ( 1998 )
=== Xbox 360 ===
Super Street Fighter IV (http://ocremix.org/game/609/super-street-fighter-iv-xb360) (2010)
References
Wikipedia - "List of Street Fighter characters - T. Hawk" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_characters#T._Hawk)
Street Fighter Wiki - "T. Hawk" (http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/T._Hawk)
'Super Street Fighter 4' Character Guide - T. Hawk (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2010/04/21/super-street-fighter-4-character-guide-t-hawk/)
Dafydd
06-06-2010, 08:58 PM
Nice! My only concern is "What's become of both, he knows not;" - I'm not a native speaker, but I feel "either" or something would be more appropriate here, assuming his homeland and his kin did not both suffer an identical fate. But I'm just a silly Swede.
That could work too. But I stuck with "both" because it's easy to lump his homeland and his kin in the same boat since T. Hawk barely knew them when they were taken from him as an infant. So they're of equal importance. Clever catch nonetheless.
And don't worry about the Mass Effect mascot - I'm writing something for him, too.
Dafydd
06-08-2010, 10:28 AM
Alright.
Yeah, I will make no claims to any character I don't know. Maybe some day djp will want to add, I dunno, Gordon Freeman, I'd be happy to write that one.
EDIT: beloved "Uncle Scrooge."
I want that dot after the quote mark. Am I wrong?
Also, a question from a non native speaker: is it common to say "Once he started looking after his nephews" or does that sound strange to anyone? I'd put it "Once he started to look after his nephews". Maybe it's a regional thing?
Mirby
06-08-2010, 05:58 PM
In English, punctuation goes within quotation marks. So it's correct there.
And that's a regional thing or something... in context, it sounds fine to me.
Darklink42
06-08-2010, 09:00 PM
Alright.
Yeah, I will make no claims to any character I don't know. Maybe some day djp will want to add, I dunno, Gordon Freeman, I'd be happy to write that one.
EDIT:
I want that dot after the quote mark. Am I wrong?
Also, a question from a non native speaker: is it common to say "Once he started looking after his nephews" or does that sound strange to anyone? I'd put it "Once he started to look after his nephews". Maybe it's a regional thing?
As far as I know, the punctuation always goes inside of the quotations, except in rare instances. I don't know about what's done outside of American conventions though, so you could be right when it comes to international observances.
I don't know that I'm qualified to answer your second question, since I wrote it. I assume that it's because I'm used to writing like that, but it could also just be me being lazy. I figure the sentence works either way, depending on how you want to phrase it.
You can say "someone started to do something" and use the infinitive OR say "someone started doing something" with the -ing gerund without raising almost any native speaker's eyebrows. The latter suggests a continuous/ongoing action, and in this instance it works fine because Scrooge is still looking after his nephews.
Commander Shepard
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_154.png
Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Mass Effect
Created by: BioWare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioWare)
First appearance: 2007
Bio
The year is 2183 A.D. Humans don't just planet hop — they board starships and teleport via Mass Relays to neighboring star systems and star clusters. Nanotechnology and cybernetics have advanced far enough to be able to bring a deceased person back to life. A physics phenomenon called "mass effect" has been discovered, and creatures naturally capable of sensing and manipulating it can enhance their prowess with the aid of brain implants. But despite all these leaps in science, turmoil still abounds among the stars. The Milky Way galaxy is governed by a collective body of sentient races called the Council, among whose duties include hiring and dispatching military personnel of various skills and alliances to restore order where needed. One of these is a human named Shepard, the protagonist of the Mass Effect universe.
Commander Shepard's character is built on myriad customization options. While BioWare typically markets him as male, the player can choose to make her female, with the default first names being John and Jane respectively. His/her beginning class may be either a Soldier who's proficient in weapons, an Engineer with a solid grasp of tech items, or an Adept who manipulates the titular "mass effect" in battles. As the player gains experience, combinations of these classes become available. Shepard's birthplace and honed morality are also selectable. Was he/she born on Earth, in space, or on one of Earth's extrasolar colonies? Is he/she a glorious war hero, the lone survivor of a brutal battle, or a coldhearted murderer who cares only about the job and the paycheck? These choices affect everything from Shepard's in-game charisma to the tools he/she can handle to the supporting characters in the romantic subplot.
Shepard enrolled in a fleet called the Human Systems Alliance at the age of 18. Now 29, he/she explores the galaxy aboard a starship called the SSV Normandy, completing all manners of military assignments. Early in the first game, the Normandy crew investigates a human colony that comes under attack by a rogue Spectre, a member of the office of Special Tactics and Reconnaissance. In response, the Council appoints Shepard the first human Spectre, giving him/her the duty to hunt down the alien behind the assault, Saren Arterius. This task is neither simple nor the only one; the galaxy contains extensive side quests, dialogue, and story exposition to match its size and scope, and some of the player's choices affect not only how the game progresses, but also how the ending to one game will affect the beginning and development of the next. Talk about a mass effect.
Quote
"Whatever your plan is, it's going to fail. I'll make sure of that."
Selected game appearances
=== Xbox 360 ===
Mass Effect (http://ocremix.org/game/619/mass-effect-xb360) (2007)
Mass Effect 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/597/mass-effect-2-xb360) (2010)
References
Wikipedia - "Mass Effect" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect)
Wikipedia - "Characters of the Mass Effect universe - Commander Shepard" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_the_Mass_Effect_universe#Commander_S hepard)
Giant Bomb - "Commander Shepard (video game character)" (http://www.giantbomb.com/commander-shepard/94-658/)
Mass Effect (2007) (VG) - Memorable quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1073668/quotes)
Dafydd
06-16-2010, 02:33 PM
Well, not much to say really. Seems to me there's a great deal of talk about the game, but it's a customizable character of whom not much is known. Go ahead and upload it.
Nice pun at the end :)
Gollgagh
06-16-2010, 02:40 PM
been meaning to say something for a while
http://ocremix.org/info/Doom_Trooper
the picture is actually the model from Quake III and not from Doom itself
Dafydd
06-16-2010, 04:58 PM
Oh. Thanks for pointing that out :)
Darklink42
06-27-2010, 01:10 AM
Before a mad rush to write bios for the new characters happens, is there any particular protocol on picking, or is it going to be first calls get dibs?
Mirby
06-27-2010, 01:31 AM
I call dibs on Zero, since I promised I'd do a bio on a character I nominated, and I nominated Zero. Got to keep my word, right?
Guys, it's first dibbed, first written. Darklink42, call your mascot and proceed. Mirby, Zero's all yours. Make it strong.
And Arek, finish Juri Han's bio already. :)
Unfortunately, my computer's internet decided to crap out on me (again) yesterday. I'll fix it ASAP before writing a new bio.
Darklink42
06-27-2010, 06:50 AM
I'd like to call Phoenix Wright for now. I'll have something up in a day or two.
Mirby
06-27-2010, 07:45 AM
Zero
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_161.png
Article by: Mirby (Taylor Brown) (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=23470)
Pictured from: Mega Man X
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 1993
Bio
The year is 21XX; 100 years have passed since the exploits of Mega Man and his battles against Dr. Wily. A new scientist, Dr. Cain, has discovered the lab of Dr. Light. After unsealing the capsule containing X and creating the Reploids, peace reigns. All is calm for eight months, until some of these Reploids go "Maverick" and start destroying the city. A council of Hunters is established to defeat these Mavericks, and Sigma is appointed leader of these Hunters. Sigma was one of the most intelligent Reploids; he contained Dr. Cain's latest circuitry and immunity to all viruses, and he leads the Hunters with great skill.
After two years Reploids move into the "Forbidden Area" somewhere near or in the Rocky Mountains, which held Dr. Light's lab and other ancient artifacts. Zero awakens, and destroys the Hunters that were near there. Sigma decides to face this red Maverick himself to avenge his fallen comrades. During the battle Zero uses Sigma's pride and confidence against him, eventually ripping off one of Sigma's arms. At one point, Sigma gets the upper hand, shattering Zero's helmet gem with a mighty punch and revealing a familiar "W" symbol behind it. While this was exposed, the virus held latent inside Zero's body transfers to Sigma, where it would later become known as the Sigma Virus.
After this incident, Zero is taken to Dr. Cain's lab for analysis, as per Sigma's orders. All malice is gone, and Zero wants to fight for the side of good. Under Sigma's wing, he quickly rises to the rank of SA-class Hunter within Sigma's 17th Elite squad. He helps X out quite frequently, especially once the Sigma Virus finally consumes Sigma's soul and turns him Maverick. He was a friend in the first two games in the X series, and finally became partially playable in Mega Man X3. He would be a fully playable character in all subsequent installments, including the Game Boy Color-exclusive Xtreme series.
In Mega Man X5, during the Colony Fall incident, as it came to be known, the space colony Eurasia was set on a collision course with Earth by Sigma. The old cannon known as Enigma failed, but the backup plan did. Zero was sent in an old spaceship to divert the course and succeeded for the most part, returning to Earth safely. However, an old area was revealed, and both him and X investigated. It was in here that he finally did what he was created to do; fight X in a battle to the death. However, both survived, and went on to fight Sigma. It was here that Zero sacrificed himself for peace, in order that X, and the world, may live.
His personality is quite noble, and has sacrificed himself a few other times in the series for the sake of peace. Zero has been known to act brashly, but he is more often tactically minded and refuses to serve dark purposes. He'll fight whenever fighting is necessary, and always stand up for those he considers friends.
After the X-series, he seals himself up for a century, only to be awakened in order to save the Resistance in the first Mega Man Zero game on Game Boy Advance.
Quote
"What am I fighting for?!?!?"
Selected game appearances
=== Super NES ===
Mega Man X (http://ocremix.org/game/138/mega-man-x-snes) (1993)
Mega Man X3 (http://ocremix.org/game/177/mega-man-x3-snes) (1995)
=== Playstation ===
Mega Man X4 (http://ocremix.org/game/255/mega-man-x4-ps1) (1997)
References
Rockman PM - "Timeline of X" (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=653.0)
Mega Man X4 (1997) (VG) - Memorable quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247514/quotes)
Darklink42
06-27-2010, 09:16 AM
Here's some edits for you Mirby.
Right off the bat, make sure when you link the selected game appearances, they go to the OCRemix site if there is one. I believe that we do that in order to lead people to the appropriate mixes.
Also, after reading it a couple times, I think it might be a better idea to switch the order and start with who Zero is before talking about his history. I know the character from playing the first Megaman Zero game on GBA, but I can see where people who have not played any of them would be confused about where Zero stands on the good/evil scale and, more specifically, what his relationship to Sigma is overall. Speaking of Sigma, I'd recommend describing who he is a little bit too.
Now on to grammar and such, because I'm still up and haven't used my English education for anything important in the last few months.
-There's no need to say "constant battles" Battles works just as well, and you could actually contract the sentence further if you wanted.
-The sentence that starts with "Until some of" is an incomplete sentence. It should be merged with the previous sentence.
-Same problem with the next two sentences, they should be merged into one thought.
-Do the reploids move the forbidden area, or do they move into it? You may also wish to explain a little about which Reploids are moving, and why.
-Why does Zero awaken, and why does he decide to side with the mavericks? Why does Sigma fight against Zero?
-The description of the fight between Sigma and Zero is a couple sentences long, and while cool, might be better served in explaining a little more about Zero's and/or Sigma's goals.
-If you are going to keep the fight description, these sentences need to be corrected:
1. "During the battle, Zero..." Something more like: "During the battle Zero uses Sigma's pride and confidence against him, eventually ripping off one of Sigma's arms."
2."After a short while, Sigma..." Something like: "At one point, Sigma gets the upper hand, shattering Zero's helmet gem and revealing a familar "W" symbol behind it."
-"His personality is quite noble... in fact, he sacrifices himself multiple times in the series for the sake of peace." Ellipsis >:(
-It's not necessary to point out he's not suicidal. By saying that he's noble, it's already implied that he has died for a cause. If anything you can point out that he's not reckless with his life.
-"He can act brash..." Something like: "Zero has been known to act brashly, but he is more often tactically minded and refuses to serve dark purposes."
-I actually want to hear as much about what he does in the Zero games as how he got his start. Why seal himself away for so long, why come back, who was he fighting, and what happened in the end (without spoilers where possible).
Good start. Now you need to just work on polishing it up. Watch out for those split sentences though. You've got a few of those in there where you halved a thought and made it two short sentences where it could have been one medium sentence.
Mirby
06-27-2010, 09:28 AM
I'll do a quick edit.
As for the Zero games, I can't elaborate WITHOUT spoilers. Plus, his memory is gone for a reason that I can't list WITHOUT SPOILERS.
And if X is mascot twice, why can't why have X-series Zero and Zero-series Zero? I'm leaving it open for that.
EDIT: Okay, fixed some parts. Put as much backstory into Sigma as I could while still keeping this about Zero.
And I kept the fight description because it defines why Zero went good and Sigma went evil; it's an integral part of the bio. Plus, SIGMA PAUUNCH!!!
Dafydd
06-27-2010, 09:42 AM
I'm in a hurry, so I'll have to comment on Zero later today. Just popping in to say I didn't hear about the 10 new mascots until today (and then only thanks to Facebook, rofl).
I'm not dibbing it, but I would very much like to write the Companion Cube one.
EDIT: Ok, I found a few more minutes - Mirby, I'm amazed to read so much about Zero I didn't know. You do not, however, mention anything about what goes on in X2, where Zero is in pieces and must be reassembled else faced in combat, reprogrammed as a maverick. I'd also like to know why he has boobs with green nipples and a blond ponytail (for a long time I was sure he was a she). His name could also use an explanation, but that would probably lead to still more spoilers.
Mirby
06-27-2010, 07:22 PM
There's no reasoning as to his design. As for the fight in X2, that's not part of the true storyline (the true storyline is where X collects all parts of Zero).
But I'll definitely go into detail about X5, since that has the integral X vs. Zero part.
My question is this. Should I include who created him? Is it common knowledge that a certain doctor created Zero?
EDIT: Okay, added in X5. Now there are a few details that I could add after the X-series, but they're largely important to the Zero games, and once again, SPOILERS.
Let me know if I put too many spoilers in the X5 part.
Dafydd
06-27-2010, 09:39 PM
So should we tell his whole story up until the Zero games, or should we limit ourselves to what happens in the beginning of Mega Man X, only indicating he continues to appear throughout the X series, rather than going into details as to how? I would like some input on this, and there's really no point in debating grammar and such until it's been decided. I feel the bio reveals too much, myself.
Mirby
06-27-2010, 09:49 PM
Well, most of what transpires between X-series and Zero-series is SPOILERS for events in the Zero-series, so I won't put that in.
And he dies and comes back to life a few times anyways...
The Damned
06-27-2010, 11:10 PM
I just noticed Red from the Pokémon games appeared in the corner. Never saw him there before.
So when I clicked on him to read his page... there wasn't one.
Then I thought, maybe, I could write something for it.
But I can't log-in or sign up to edit the page. The Help page is also non-existent. In fact,I can't seem to find any way to do anything on the Mascot project.
I'm guessing that only certain people can edit the pages. If that's the case, I wouldn't mind writing up the Red page, if no one else has claimed it. I checked back about ten pages, and no one has mentioned Red yet, so I'm guessing it's up for grabs.
Dafydd
06-27-2010, 11:21 PM
Here's how it works: Post your bio here, and we will look it over for QA and upload it for you when we're happy with it. Read the previous posts on this very page of this thread for an example.
The Damned
06-28-2010, 03:05 AM
OK, using the previous four articles as a basis, I have written this rough draft. Personal concerns are that there are too many games listed at the end, and not a large enough variety of sources (namely, only a section from a Wikipedia page and the character article from Bulbapedia, a Pokémon specific wiki). Aside from that, I think it's a decent first shot. Maybe a bit long.
Red
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_165.png
Article by: The Damned (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=8358)
Pictured from: Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen
Created by: Game Freak (http://ocremix.org/org/1874/game-freak)
First appearance: 1996
Bio
Red is the first protagonist of the Pokémon game series. His playable appearances are limited to being the player character in both the original Game Boy games Red, Blue and Yellow, and the Game Boy Advance remakes, Fire Red and Leaf Green. He also appears as the final trainer atop Mount Silver in Gold, Silver and Crystal, as well as their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver. Red also makes cameos in other Nintendo titles, such as Super Smash Bros. Melee.
Red isn't known for speaking much, instead preferring to converse in simple "Yes" and "No" responses to most characters. Most of the time, the person(s) he is engaged with will simply continue to speak without interruption until they are done. This may make Red seem timid, but the truth is, he is highly skilled in Pokémon battling. Red has easily defeated not only the eight Kanto Gym Leaders, but also the Elite Four and the criminal organization Team Rocket.
Upon his victory against the Elite Four, he was crowned the Indigo League Champion. Seeking ever higher skill, he trained on top of the vicious, snow-capped peak of Mount Silver, waiting for a challenger worthy enough to reach him. Only when the player defeats the Elite Four and the Gyms of both the Kanto and Johto regions can he or she challenge Red. Even then, he has had three years to hone his skills and raise his team.
Aside from his vast collection of Pokémon, Red also has access to several useful tools. He has a collapsible bicycle for speedy transportation; a back-pack filled with Pokéballs for catching wild Pokémon; Technical and Hidden Machines, devices used to teach Pokémon new attacks; and the exclusive Pokédex, a device that records all known information on any Pokémon the Red encounters and captures. These tools and his highly trained team of Pokémon have allowed to advance the understanding of Pokémon greatly.
Quote
"..."
Selected game appearances
=== Game Boy ===
Pokémon Red, Blue (1996)
Pokémon Yellow: Special Pikachu Edition (1998 )
=== Game Boy Color ===
Pokémon Gold and Silver (1999)
Pokémon Crystal (http://ocremix.org/game/573/pokemon-crystal-gbc) (2000)
=== Nintendo N64 ===
Pokémon Stadium 2 (2000)
=== GameCube ===
Pokémon Colosseum (2003)
Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness (2005)
=== Game Boy Advance ===
Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (2004)
=== Wii ===
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2008 )
=== DS ===
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (2009)
References
Bulbapedia - "Red (Game)" (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_%28game%29)
Wikipedia - "List of Pokémon Characters" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_characters#Protagonists)
Mirby
06-28-2010, 03:15 AM
Zero
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_161.png
Article by: Mirby (Taylor Brown) (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=23470)
Pictured from: Mega Man X6
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 1993
Bio
After the awakening of the robot known simply as X (http://ocremix.org/info/X), peace reigns. All is calm for eight months, until some of these Reploids go "Maverick" and start destroying the city. A council of Hunters is established to defeat these Mavericks, and Sigma is appointed leader of these Hunters.
After two years a group of Hunters move into the "Forbidden Area" somewhere near or in the Rocky Mountains, which hold Dr. Light's lab and other ancient artifacts. Zero awakens, and destroys the Hunters that intruded upon his solitude. Sigma then faces this red Maverick himself to avenge his fallen comrades. During the battle Zero uses Sigma's pride and confidence against him, eventually ripping off one of Sigma's arms. At one point, Sigma gets the upper hand, shattering Zero's helmet gem with a mighty punch and revealing a "W" symbol behind it. While this was exposed, a virus held latent inside Zero's body since his creation is transmitted to Sigma, where it would later become known as the Sigma Virus.
After this incident, Zero is taken to Dr. Cain's lab for analysis, as per Sigma's orders. All malice is gone, and Zero wants to fight for the side of good. Under Sigma's wing, he quickly rises to the rank of SA-class Hunter within Sigma's 17th Elite squad. He helps X out quite frequently, especially once the Sigma Virus finally consumes Sigma's soul and turns him Maverick. He was a friend in the first two games in the X series, and finally became partially playable in Mega Man X3. He would be a fully playable character in all subsequent installments, including the Game Boy Color-exclusive Xtreme series. During the events of Mega Man X5, he finally did what he was created to do, and fought X in a battle that was supposed to be to the death.
His personality is quite noble, and has sacrificed himself a few other times in the series for the sake of peace. Zero has been known to act brashly, but he is more often tactically minded and refuses to serve dark purposes. His power and abilities are much greater than that of X, something that X uses as a goal to reach. He'll fight whenever fighting is necessary, and always stand up for those he considers friends.
After the X-series, he seals himself up for a century, only to be awakened in order to save the Resistance in the first Mega Man Zero game on Game Boy Advance.
Quote
"What am I fighting for?!?!?"
Selected game appearances
=== Super NES ===
Mega Man X (http://ocremix.org/game/138/mega-man-x-snes) (1993)
Mega Man X2 (http://ocremix.org/game/412/mega-man-x2-snes) (1994)
Mega Man X3 (http://ocremix.org/game/177/mega-man-x3-snes) (1995)
=== Playstation ===
Mega Man X4 (http://ocremix.org/game/255/mega-man-x4-ps1) (1997)
Mega Man X5 (http://ocremix.org/game/612/mega-man-x5-ps1) (2000)
=== Game Boy Advance ===
Mega Man Zero 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/434/mega-man-zero-2-gba) (2003)
References
Rockman PM - "Timeline of X" (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=653.0)
Mega Man X4 (1997) (VG) - Memorable quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247514/quotes)
[Reposted to keep it on the active page, with some slight edits]
Also, I think that's pretty good, Damned. Although, as was said previously, try to link games in the Appearances section to their pages here. It might be hard, due to the lack of remixes from the series.
The Damned
06-28-2010, 04:10 AM
Also, I think that's pretty good, Damned. Although, as was said previously, try to link games in the Appearances section to their pages here. It might be hard, due to the lack of remixes from the series.
Considering there's only one, yeah. Edited to remove unnecessary links.
If only there was some project that could fill that in a bit... :<
Mirby
06-28-2010, 04:12 AM
Sorry, but I just read my quote as "That's pretty damned good..."
And yeah... if only... *thinks*
:D
Feedback on Zero:
- Your first paragraph repeats some of what X's bio (http://ocremix.org/info/X) initially states (Dr. Light's lab is found by Dr. Cain, some Reploids go "Maverick," etc.). We don't want to give readers a lot of the same info, practically word for word, in two bios. It would be easier if you wrote something like "After the awakening of the robot known as X..." and "X" would be a link to his bio. It'll save you some hassle regarding story setting/buildup.
- I don't think you really need to give away that many facts about Sigma, since he's not the focus of the bio. Some details like his being the leader of the Hunters can be mentioned in passing or in more concise bits later on. His battle with Zero precipitates their changing stances from good <--> evil, so you can leave it in, but the mention of the virus inside Zero comes outta nowhere (bring it up earlier if it helps explain his attack after waking up), and the W on Zero's helmet is not directly explained, so it feels superfluous. Also, ripping off Sigma's arm? I've always seen him with two functioning arms.
- I thought Reploids and Mavericks didn't have "souls" (cuz they're robots). Did you mean Sigma's programming/personality?
- Why is the backstory of Mega Man X5 important? Simply saying that Zero does what he was created to do (fight X) would be sufficient; however, the outcome repeats/spoils what the next paragraph states in fewer words (that he sacrifices himself for the sake of peace) - that's a useful way to reveal what happens to him at the ends of some games without just saying "he dies." I say keep that bit.
- You nail his personality. Excellent. Now what of his Beam Saber? And his abilities compared to X? And how does he view/help/hinder his partner?
Some extra tidbits:
- That Zero image is actually from Mega Man X6 (the filename here (http://www.themmnetwork.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=18&pos=115) and the instruction manual over on replacementdocs confirm it).
- Isn't Zero's quote from the anime? If possible, give him a line he says in one of the games.
- Zero also appears in X2 (http://ocremix.org/game/412/mega-man-x2-snes), X5 (http://ocremix.org/game/612/mega-man-x5-ps1), and Mega Man Zero 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/434/mega-man-zero-2-gba) during normal gameplay. Add 'em to his appearance list.
- To my knowledge, no mascot bio until now has ever cited a forum thread as a reference link. I'm not doubting the accuracy of the info - it's just that a forum thread is more openly prone to discussion, debate, editing, locking, and deletion than a standalone fan page or Wikipedia page or whatever. If you can link a reference like that that has the exact same (or more) info, it would be much appreciated. If not, don't worry about it.
In sum: keep working on it. Focus on what's directly important to Zero and keep it concise.
Feedback on Red:
- For now, we'll link to the Wikipedia page on Game Freak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Freak) - it's only until djp/LT fill out the company page and have it link to the remixed Pokémon titles.
- Personally, I think "even so" or "but even then" would sound better than "even then" (3rd paragraph).
- Backpack is one word. Or is the hyphenated "back-pack" a correct spelling in your region?
- "any Pokémon the Red encounters" --> You mean any Pokémon THAT Red encounters?
- If he's a silent protagonist, he doesn't need a quote (even if it is "..."). We tried it with Crono and company before, but later said "nah, forget it."
- Don't forget to link to Pokémon Red (http://ocremix.org/game/508/pokemon-red-gb) in the appearance list. Pokémon Blue can be a separate title because OCR lists a mix under only one title of a pair of games that have the same music/features/whatever. (Biased, yeah, but the higher-ups decided on this.) Similarly, the Gold and Silver, FireRed and LeafGreen, and HeartGold and SoulSilver titles can be separated. The Pictured from line, however, can reflect both titles.
- 14 titles is kinda pushing it, but it's not TOO much. There's only one pair under some systems, and the release years between pairs are rather far apart. As for the reference links - our only rule regarding them is to never have only a Wikipedia link. You're in the clear, but if you know of another relevant Pokémon resource whose url doesn't end in -pedia, you can add it.
Overall: you cover Red's items, goals, achievements, personality... that's awesome, and I think this bio's worthy for inclusion.
Mirby
06-28-2010, 05:49 AM
First off, the forum thread is some of the most accurate info there is in relation to the timeline of the X series; the person who compiled it double, triple, dodectuple checked his facts. And most of it is gained from instruction manuals and in-game events.
I'm not listing any of the Zero games because it's a differently designed Zero in those games; I'm going for this Zero design as it is his appearance in the X series, not the Zero series. I know it's just an art-style swap, but if X is in twice, I hope that someday Zero-series Zero can be in as well, and we can link that game then.
I didn't know what game the image was from... eheheh...
Reploids do in fact have souls; see Mega Man Xtreme 2, known in Japan as Rockman X2: Soul Eraser. The events in that game were later referenced by Alia in, I think it was X5, as the Soul Erasure incident.
I'd explain the W, but wouldn't bringing up the fact that Wily created Zero be spoilers for the average person reading the bio? After all, that information is only found out via beating X4 and more importantly X5.
I'll work on the rest.
EDIT: Okay, edited. A few more things.
The quote is from an anime cutscene in Mega Man X4, not a separate product. Therefore, he says it in a game.
I do not know of anything that relates as to why Zero has the Z-Saber. Therefore, I'm leaving it out.
As for ripping off Sigma's arm, it was obviously repaired. If Zero was put back together in X2, there's nothing saying that Sigma couldn't have had his arm reattached.
Dafydd
06-28-2010, 09:28 AM
Damned,
Why no mention of Red's beginnings, how he sets out to find those things on behalf of Professor Oak and his quest to fill in the many blanks of the Pokédex, and his nemesis; Blue? I also don't see any mention of the cartoons. (EDIT: Wait, I'm confusing him with Ash, sorry about that)
Also, lol:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/03/Wild_Prof_Oak.jpg/180px-Wild_Prof_Oak.jpg
- If he's a silent protagonist, he doesn't need a quote (even if it is "..."). We tried it with Crono and company before, but later said "nah, forget it."
I was hoping to include one of the following (without quote marks) as the cube's quote. It's actually quoting someone else, but the quote is about the fact that the cube does not speak, so I thought it would kind of count anyway, because it's really not the same thing at all as when i.e. Alyx says to Gordon Freeman (another silent protagonist) that he's a "man of few words", because in this case, the quote, having no quote marks, is really aimed at the reader of the article, not the player or an in-game character. If this distinction makes no sense to you, please request that I explain.
The Enrichment Center reminds you that the Weighted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and, in fact, cannot speak.
The Enrichment Center reminds you that the Weighted Companion Cube [...], in fact, cannot speak.
Thoughts?
Mirby
06-28-2010, 09:30 AM
CURSE THAT WILD PROFESSOR OAK! QUICK, USE THE MASTER BALL!
rofl
The Damned
06-28-2010, 05:56 PM
Newer version, fixed glaring typos and errors. Added some more to a few paragraphs, removed quote.
Red
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_165.png
Article by: The Damned (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=8358)
Pictured from: Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen
Created by: Game Freak (http://ocremix.org/org/1874/game-freak)
First appearance: 1996
Bio
Red is the first protagonist of the Pokémon game series. His playable appearances are limited to being the player character in both the original Game Boy games Red, Blue and Yellow, and the Game Boy Advance remakes, Fire Red and Leaf Green. He also appears as the final trainer atop Mount Silver in Gold, Silver and Crystal, as well as their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver. Red also makes cameos in other Nintendo titles, such as Super Smash Bros. Melee.
Red began his journey though his homeland of Kanto, a place of open county and bustling cities. Professor Oak, the leading expert on creatures called Pokémon, enlisted Red to aid his research. Given the task of finding and capturing as many Pokémon as he could, Red headed out onto an adventure of exploration, discovery and action.
Red isn't known for speaking much, instead preferring to converse in simple "Yes" and "No" responses to most characters. Most of the time, the person(s) he is engaged with will simply continue to speak without interruption until they are done. This may make Red seem timid, but the truth is, he is highly skilled in Pokémon battling. Red has easily defeated not only the eight Kanto Gym Leaders, highly skilled trainers specializing in certain types of Pokémon, but also the Elite Four, the highest ranked trainers in the land. Red also single-handedly defeated the criminal organization Team Rocket, trainers who use Pokémon as tools and weapons to spread their influence across the land.
Upon his victory against the Elite Four, he was crowned the Indigo League Champion. Seeking ever higher skill, he trained on top of the vicious, snow-capped peak of Mount Silver, waiting for a challenger worthy enough to reach him. In the sequel games, the player can only face Red after defeating the Gym Leaders of both the Kanto and Johto regions, and the Elite Four. But even then, he has had three years to hone his skills and raise his team, making this battle one of he most difficult of the entire series.
Aside from his vast collection of Pokémon, Red also has access to several useful tools. He has a collapsible bicycle for speedy transportation; a backpack filled with Pokéballs for catching wild Pokémon; Technical and Hidden Machines, devices used to teach Pokémon new attacks; and the exclusive Pokédex, a device that records all known information on any Pokémon that Red encounters and captures. These tools and his highly trained team of Pokémon have allowed to advance the understanding of Pokémon greatly.
Selected game appearances
=== Game Boy ===
Pokémon Red, Blue (http://ocremix.org/game/508/pokemon-red-gb) (1996)
Pokémon Yellow: Special Pikachu Edition (1998 )
=== Game Boy Color ===
Pokémon Gold and Silver (1999)
Pokémon Crystal (http://ocremix.org/game/573/pokemon-crystal-gbc) (2000)
=== Game Boy Advance ===
Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (2004)
=== Wii ===
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2008 )
=== DS ===
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (2009)
References
Bulbapedia - "Red (Game)" (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_%28game%29)
Wikipedia - "List of Pokémon Characters" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_characters#Protagonists)
The Damned
06-28-2010, 06:02 PM
Feedback on Red:
- Personally, I think "even so" or "but even then" would sound better than "even then" (3rd paragraph).
Fixed.
- Backpack is one word. Or is the hyphenated "back-pack" a correct spelling in your region?
It seems to be. Spell-check isn't freaking out over it.
- "any Pokémon the Red encounters" --> You mean any Pokémon THAT Red encounters?
Fixed. Good eye. I didn't notice it.
- If he's a silent protagonist, he doesn't need a quote (even if it is "..."). We tried it with Crono and company before, but later said "nah, forget it."
I was going to put "Yes/No" but that didn't seem right as a quote.
- Don't forget to link to Pokémon Red (http://ocremix.org/game/508/pokemon-red-gb) in the appearance list. Pokémon Blue can be a separate title because OCR lists a mix under only one title of a pair of games that have the same music/features/whatever. (Biased, yeah, but the higher-ups decided on this.)
Odd, when I went to the games list of remixes, it didn't show up. Fixed.
Similarly, the Gold and Silver, FireRed and LeafGreen, and HeartGold and SoulSilver titles can be separated. The Pictured from line, however, can reflect both titles.
Not entreily sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
- 14 titles is kinda pushing it, but it's not TOO much. There's only one pair under some systems, and the release years between pairs are rather far apart. As for the reference links - our only rule regarding them is to never have only a Wikipedia link. You're in the clear, but if you know of another relevant Pokémon resource whose url doesn't end in -pedia, you can add it.
Technically, I could remove the N64, GameCube and Wii games, as they list Red as only showing up in one battle... but then I would have to do the same for GSC/HGSS, as he also shows up for only one battle. And Brawl doesn't let you control him directly, so much as his pokémon. But again, that also applies to the core games, so I can't do that either.
Worst case, I can ditch the Stadium 2 and GameCube games. His only appearance in those ones is a trainer you can fight in the battling portion of the games. Stadium 2 is basically fighting a series of other trainers, with absolutely no story. Colosseum and XD have stories, but you fight Red outside of the story, in the same way in Stadium 2. It's not part of the plot, and doesn't affect anything game-wise.
As for more sources... sadly, there are only a few. Most Pokémon sites cater towards news and game mechanics, with only minimal character, plot and setting info. Serebii.net has tons of news and a lot about how the games work, but the only other info they have is for the anime, but not the game.
Smogon is entirely about game mechanics, so they're out.
Pokébeach is more like Serebii, they deal in news mostly. They have lots of anime stuff, but nothing on game stuff.
There just aren't enough third-party sites that deal in this area of information. Bulbapedia is pretty much the only real source of detailed articles on game characters.
Damned,
Why no mention of Red's beginnings, how he sets out to find those things on behalf of Professor Oak and his quest to fill in the many blanks of the Pokédex, and his nemesis; Blue? I also don't see any mention of the cartoons. (EDIT: Wait, I'm confusing him with Ash, sorry about that)
I think his beginnings are too basic to include. "Hey kid, here's a Pokédex, go fill it out for me, OK?" doesn't really make for good reading. Also, his rival is pretty much a lower-tier character; he only shows up a few times, he hardly puts up a challenge, and he is quickly supplanted upon your arrival. He's more like... a bump in the road then a rival. Even then, the article is about Red, not Red's rival. It seems out of place.
Besides, anyone that has played any of the games knows exactly how it starts.
Dafydd
06-28-2010, 06:33 PM
The bios are mainly intended for people who haven't played the games, mind you. ;-) I think the bio should at least mention something about his background, not only who he is right now. It needn't be long, maybe just something along the lines of
Red isn't known for speaking much, instead preferring to converse in simple "Yes" and "No" responses to most characters. Most of the time, the person(s) he is engaged with will simply continue to speak without interruption until they are done. This may make Red seem timid, but the truth is, he is highly skilled in Pokémon battling. Though Red started out as a nobody, given one single pokémon to get him started on his quest to find every Pokémon in the world, he has since easily defeated not only the eight Kanto Gym Leaders, but also the Elite Four and the criminal organization Team Rocket.
Then again, to someone who hasn't played the game, what the heck is a Kanto Gym? Or even a Pokémon? I find these things a lot more important than listing every game in which he is a playable character.
Maybe I'm biased against both Zero's and Red's bios because I never played anything beyond X3 (doubt I even beat that) and Pokémon Blue (definitely did not beat that), but there it is.
The Damned
06-28-2010, 07:54 PM
Good point. I'll edit the last version instead of making anew one.
More feedback on Zero:
- "Sigma decides to face" --> more like "Sigma then faces" or just "Sigma faces" because as leader of the Hunters, how can he decide not to avenge his fallen comrades?
- I think the word "familiar" threw me off regarding the W. Maybe cut it or change it to "curious" or "visible" or something, just so other people won't demand WHY it's familiar.
- Since you don't establish the virus earlier, it would sound clearer if the sentence read "while this was exposed, a virus held latent inside Zero's body..."
- If he's the same character in the Mega Man Zero series, which you concede in your last sentence, then Mega Man Zero 2 should logically be in his appearance list. But if djp does add MMZ-style Zero as a mascot in the future (keep lobbying for it), we'll adjust the appearance lists accordingly.
Once these nitpicks are dealt with, the bio will be passable. Despite no mention of his Z-Saber, Zero does have a solid history, personality, and motives, plus established relationships with Sigma and X ("His power and abilities are much greater than that of X, something that X uses as a goal to reach" = nice).
Dafydd, I think I understand what you mean, but if a mascot not only doesn't speak but also has a quote without "quotation marks," that would just go against what we've established. Of course, it'd be hilarious if you could somehow fit that idea (and one or both "quotes") in the bio, as a sort of quirk relative to the Companion Cube.
More feedback on Red:
- "a place of open county" --> You mean country, right?
Similarly, the Gold and Silver, FireRed and LeafGreen, and HeartGold and SoulSilver titles can be separated. The Pictured from line, however, can reflect both titles.
Not entreily sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
I mean the paired titles can be split/sorted like this:
=== Game Boy ===
Pokémon Red (http://ocremix.org/game/508/pokemon-red-gb) (1996)
Pokémon Blue (1996)
=== Game Boy Color ===
Pokémon Gold (1999)
Pokémon Silver (1999)
...
=== Game Boy Advance ===
Pokémon FireRed (2004)
Pokémon LeafGreen (2004)
...
=== Nintendo DS ===
Pokémon HeartGold (2009)
Pokémon SoulSilver (2009)
Notice how Red is linked but Blue isn't. This is what I meant when I said OCR files mixes under only one title. And since Red's appearance in FireRed is the same as LeafGreen, both titles can stay in his Pictured from line.
- Your Bulbapedia link is a thorough and extensive resource on Red's character and all, and while the Wikipedia link does have only a small bit on him, it includes info on the other characters brought up in the bio (Gym Leaders, Team Rocket, etc.) which would act as a supplement.
The important thing is you've done your research (thumbs up) and cited the most relevant links. That's good. Just fix that initial bit early on and separate the paired titles (unless you still have questions about it) and Red's bio should be all set.
Mirby
06-29-2010, 02:57 AM
Okay, fixed up.
And since X has Zero 2 as a game in his bio, I guess Zero can too... :P
The Damned
06-29-2010, 03:26 AM
- "a place of open county" --> You mean country, right?
Yep. It's should be "of open country" (ie, fields of grass and forests and all that naturey stuff). Minor typo.
I mean the paired titles can be split/sorted like this:
Changed.
Notice how Red is linked but Blue isn't. This is what I meant when I said OCR files mixes under only one title. And since Red's appearance in FireRed is the same as LeafGreen, both titles can stay in his Pictured from line.
Gotcha.
- Your Bulbapedia link is a thorough and extensive resource on Red's character and all, and while the Wikipedia link does have only a small bit on him, it includes info on the other characters brought up in the bio (Gym Leaders, Team Rocket, etc.) which would act as a supplement.
So that link should be fine, then.
The Damned
06-29-2010, 03:28 AM
Red
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_165.png
Article by: The Damned (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=8358)
Pictured from: Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen
Created by: Game Freak (http://ocremix.org/org/1874/game-freak)
First appearance: 1996
Bio
Red is the first protagonist of the Pokémon game series. His playable appearances are limited to being the player character in both the original Game Boy games Red, Blue and Yellow, and the Game Boy Advance remakes, Fire Red and Leaf Green. He also appears as the final trainer atop Mount Silver in Gold, Silver and Crystal, as well as their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver. Red also makes cameos in other Nintendo titles, such as Super Smash Bros. Melee.
Red began his journey though his homeland of Kanto, a place of open country and bustling cities. Professor Oak, the leading expert on creatures called Pokémon, enlisted Red to aid his research. Given the task of finding and capturing as many Pokémon as he could, Red headed out onto an adventure of exploration, discovery and action.
Red isn't known for speaking much, instead preferring to converse in simple "Yes" and "No" responses to most characters. Most of the time, the person(s) he is engaged with will simply continue to speak without interruption until they are done. This may make Red seem timid, but the truth is, he is highly skilled in Pokémon battling. Red has easily defeated not only the eight Kanto Gym Leaders, highly skilled trainers specializing in certain types of Pokémon, but also the Elite Four, the highest ranked trainers in the land. Red also single-handedly defeated the criminal organization Team Rocket, trainers who use Pokémon as tools and weapons to spread their influence across the land.
Upon his victory against the Elite Four, he was crowned the Indigo League Champion. Seeking ever higher skill, he trained on top of the vicious, snow-capped peak of Mount Silver, waiting for a challenger worthy enough to reach him. In the sequel games, the player can only face Red after defeating the Gym Leaders of both the Kanto and Johto regions, and the Elite Four. But even then, he has had three years to hone his skills and raise his team, making this battle one of he most difficult of the entire series.
Aside from his vast collection of Pokémon, Red also has access to several useful tools. He has a collapsible bicycle for speedy transportation; a backpack filled with Pokéballs for catching wild Pokémon; Technical and Hidden Machines, devices used to teach Pokémon new attacks; and the exclusive Pokédex, a device that records all known information on any Pokémon that Red encounters and captures. These tools and his highly trained team of Pokémon have allowed to advance the understanding of Pokémon greatly.
Selected game appearances
=== Game Boy ===
Pokémon Red (http://ocremix.org/game/508/pokemon-red-gb) (1996)
Pokémon Blue (1996)
Pokémon Yellow: Special Pikachu Edition (1998 )
=== Game Boy Color ===
Pokémon Gold (1999)
Pokémon Silver (1999)
Pokémon Crystal (http://ocremix.org/game/573/pokemon-crystal-gbc) (2000)
=== Game Boy Advance ===
Pokémon FireRed (2004)
Pokémon LeafGreen (2004)
=== Wii ===
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2008 )
=== DS ===
Pokémon HeartGold (2009)
Pokémon SoulSilver (2009)
References
Bulbapedia - "Red (Game)" (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_%28game%29)
Wikipedia - "List of Pokémon Characters" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_characters#Protagonists)
Yeah, so after some corrections here and there, and removing the more superfluous game appearances, I think this is more detailed without having too much clutter.
Mirby, Damned, thank you both for your hard work. Zero and Red have been added to the Wiki.
The Damned
06-29-2010, 05:19 AM
Well, that was relatively easy...
I wonder if there are any others I can do now.
Dafydd
06-29-2010, 09:02 AM
Red began his journey though his homeland of Kanto
Should be "through", right?
Dafydd
06-29-2010, 09:20 AM
This is über-rough, I just wanted to throw it out there so you can tell me what you think (will fix formatting and such things later). I'm fairly happy with the overall structure of it, though I'm sure my wording is awkward at times. I also put things I didn't know how to write in brackets for now:
Weighted Companion Cube
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_158.png
In 2007, Valve, the creators of the hugely successful Half-Life line of games, released Portal - a first person shooter based not on combat, but on solving various puzzles in order to proceed. The protagonist, Chell, is a test subject at a laboratory called the Enrichment Center, which is run by GLaDOS, an eccentric supercomputer AI. Throughout the game, GLaDOS overwatches and talks to Chell as she proceeds through several very potentially lethal test chambers, using a portal gun to create portals that link one part of the test chamber to another.
Most of the puzzles in the game involve cubes, typically used to activate floor buttons to open doors. However, the Weighted Companion Cube, decorated with pink hearts, is introduced in one of the later puzzles, where GLaDOS informs Chell that the cube will accompany her throughout the test chamber and asks her to take care of it. GLaDOS then reveals that previous test subjects have started perceiving the inanimate cube as alive, and reminds Chell that "the Weighted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab [her] and, in fact, cannot speak." The Companion Cube is used for more than just pushing buttons - among other things, as a stepping stone in an otherwise impossible to climb staircase and as a shield against lethal, flying energy balls. As GLaDOS suggests, it is Chell's only friend, or at least the closest to one she gets at this point in the game. At the end of the level, one that requires that same cube to be used to solve most parts of it, Chell is forced to drop the cube into a fiery pit for "euthanizing" in order to continue to the next test chamber, an act which GLaDOS suggests has been at great moral difficulty to previous test subjects.
As Portal's popularity grew, the Weighted Companion Cube eventually became its mascot of sorts, leading Valve to create merchandise such as fuzzy dice and plush toys based on it.
Links:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Portal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_(video_game)
http://orange.half-life2.com/portal.html
http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Companion_Cube
Appearances:
http://ocremix.org/game/561/portal-win
Mirby
06-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Asking the creator of that timeline thread about what was posted, he had a few things to point out.
The most important thing I need to fix is instead of it ending with "sealed himself up for a century," it should be changed to "sealed himself for a century or so" or something. Is that okay?
Tips for the Weighted Companion Cube:
- "solving various puzzles getting from one place to another" --> In spoken English, a pair of consecutive descriptive actions (with -ing gerunds) doesn't sound weird, but when written, it can cause one to do a double take. It would read better as "in order to get from..." or "and get from..." or similar.
- "The protagonist - Chell - is..." --> I'm sure commas would work fine here ("The protagonist, Chell, is..."). Dashes add extra weight to something, whereas commas are more neighborly/friendly.
- [trying to think of a good way to describe its personality here without saying too much] --> cunningly advanced? almost human? promises cake?
- The second sentence is kinda run-on. You can split it into two and have one noting the protagonist, the lab, and GLaDOS, and the other starting "Throughout the game, GLaDOS overwatches and talks to Chell as she..." Or, you can include GLaDOS interacting with her in one sentence, and then have the next say "Chell proceeds... using a Portal Gun to..."
- "to create portals from one part of the test chamber to another" --> This too sounds fine when spoken but odd when written. You can try "to create portals to teleport from one part..." or "portals that link one part..."
- For GLaDOS's line, the quote mark can surround the outside of the period ("cannot speak.")
- Add "it's (also) used" before "as a stepping stone" because the cube's uses aren't just a list - they carry on the sentence after the dash.
- "...impossible to climb staircase, and as a shield..." --> you can cut the period because this part of the sentence describes two uses grouped after the button-pushing usage.
- "which is a fairly long one" --> I'm not sure what purpose this serves - the fact that the cube is used extensively should suffice to give the reader an idea of the level's intricacy/challenge.
- euthanization --> It's actually euthanizing or euthanatizing.
Not bad thus far. Hope you sort out some of the stuff in [brackets] while touching it up in format and all.
Should be "through", right?
Of course. Fixed.
The most important thing I need to fix is instead of it ending with "sealed himself up for a century," it should be changed to "sealed himself for a century or so" or something. Is that okay?
Even if it's not strictly 100 years, a century can describe that much time in a "give or take" manner (even Wikipedia says "approximately" and "roughly"). The current wording should be fine.
Mirby
07-01-2010, 04:17 AM
I'd say "eccentric" there, Dafydd. That should be an apt spoiler-free description.
Also, apparently my friend there pointed out that his slumber was interrupted for the Elf Wars (Zero-series backstory) and then he went back into slumber after it. But apparently it was a total of 102 years. Meh, close enough.
Dafydd
07-01-2010, 09:42 AM
- "...impossible to climb staircase, and as a shield..." --> you can cut the period because this part of the sentence describes two uses grouped after the button-pushing usage.
Thanks for all the advice. I didn't get this part though.
Crap, I meant the comma, not period. Usually, adding a comma to separate two clauses/ideas in a sentence would unnecessarily slow it down. Example:
"A tool is used as one substitute and as a second one."
"A tool is used as one substitute, and as a second one."
Looking at your sentence again, however, it's probably more preference than rule. I think I'm just used to going by the former example, similar to how I use commas in lists ("one, two, and three items" as opposed to "one, two and three items"). You can keep it as is.
Other notes:
- I understand "Aperture Science" is part of the name of the research facility and the portal gun, but a lot of websites don't include it as part of the mascot's full name. And searching for "Companion Cube" shows results that generally add "Weighted" as a prefix. So your original 3-word name for the mascot was the more popular/established (I suggest we go with that). If you'd like, you can add "Aperture Science" somewhere in the article.
- "Portal Gun" --> This can be lowercase (portal gun) since it's describing the tool without its full "Aperture Science" title.
- percieving --> perceiving (I before E except after C and all that)
- Even if a quote contains the beginning of the sentence being quoted, the starting letter should be lowercase when it's in the middle of the sentence that quotes it (so lowercase the T in "The" in GLaDOS's line). It's like how "you" is changed to "[her]" in order to tweak the quote for the benefit of the reader.
- The second reference link ends in Portal_(video_game (so add the closing parenthesis).
Looking better. After these fixes, you can have the honor of uploading it to the Wiki under the name you're more comfortable with (Weighted Companion Cube or Aperture Science Weighted Companion Cube) while fixing the format and adding Portal's release year and yada yada.
Dafydd
07-02-2010, 09:41 AM
Thanks again, Polo. I'm still not finished with this, so I really appreciate all and any input.
I actually took an English class last term (mostly to get some easy credits), and we were taught about the "I before E except after C" - never heard that before - but I still tend to misspell those words pretty often.
About the comma you mentioned, I removed it, because it's the Uhmerican thing to do. In Swedish, we would write it as "ett, två, och tre" (otherwise it would look to us as if "två och tre" was an entity separate from "ett"), but in English you would write it as "one, two and three", so I did as you said, since the article is, after all, in English.
Made another few changes. I'm going to stare at this for a while longer before I upload it.
There's another quote that would look better, if a quote is to be used for the cube:
"In the event that the Weighted Companion Cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice."
But it still contains "the Enrichment Center". So maybe if we change that to (no quotation marks)
In the event that the Weighted Companion Cube does speak, we urge you to disregard its advice.
Maybe this still isn't a good idea. I wanted it to be a little prank, like that animated picture for ToeJam & Earl we used to have on OCR. Maybe the fact that was removed and replaced with a still (at about the same time that UnMod was removed) should be a hint I'm out of line... OCR is oh so grown-up nowadays :)
Tensei
07-02-2010, 03:54 PM
For one of the newest additions to the OCR-mascots. Feedback is much appreciated. :)
Zephyr
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_167.png
Article by: Tensei-San (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=16286)
Pictured from: Heroes of Newerth
Created by: S2 Games (no OCR entry yet)
First appearance: 2010
Bio
Zephyr is one of 60+ playable heroes in the PC game Heroes of Newerth. While the game is based on a Warcraft 3 modification called "Defense of the Ancients", and borrows many ideas and elements from it, Zephyr is a completely original creation by S2 Games.
According to the ingame lore, Zephyr is part of the Beast Horde, a faction of anthropomorphic animals who have allied themselves with the human Legion to combat the nefarious Hellbourne faction, and defend the land of Newerth. Zephyr does not have a lot of characterization, but he is described as a riddler, a sage, and a lover of sweets. In combat he is simply known as the warrior of the winds. Zephyr's design is based on the looks of real-life horned owls.
Ingame, Zephyr utilizes his windbased powers for both offense and defense, allowing him, for example, to blow his enemies into a desired direction, or using a wind shield to deflect blows and increase his movement speed. Zephyr's ultimate skill conjures a huge typhoon that slows down and damages any enemies caught within, dealing more damage the closer they are to the center.
Zephyr is a popular and strong pick, and isn't hard to learn even for newer players. His cyclones allow him to heal himself up, farm very quickly, and his wind shield gives him great resilience, making him a hero that's quite balanced on both offense and defense.
Zephyr is enjoys considerable popularity among the Heroes of Newerth community due to his relatively goofy appearance, which made him the focal point of several forum memes, such as "party-time Zephyr", depicting Zephyr surrounded by rainbows and disco balls, and a variation on "Haters gonna hate", featuring a picture of a decidedly smug-looking Zephyr.
Quote
"Whoop!"
Selected game appearances
=== PC ===
Heroes of Newerth (2010)
References
Zephyr on the official Heroes of Newerth site. (http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroview.php?hid=31)
Liontamer
07-02-2010, 05:45 PM
In the meantime, could someone make placeholder pages for the new additions? Pololo?
Mirby
07-02-2010, 09:07 PM
Hey, could this be addad as a reference to the Zero bio?
Mega Man X4 - Sigma vs. Maverick Zero Flashback (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlpXQ2WQtrQ)
It's the first fight between Sigma and Zero. Although some details may be a bit different, it's still a good watch for Zero's origins in the X timeline.
What do you know, I got my laptop's internet working again. And the problem was deceptively simple. *sigh* Anyway, I call dibs on Kefka from FF6. But first...
Dafydd - That new quote is also hilarious, but in the end, I think the original one fits the context better.
And yeah, OCR's a big boy now. Copyrights no longer include pudding snacks, the clown-bashing GIF left the Combatribes ReMix page, and the Toyota Supra does not say "Vroom vroom?" according to our refined rules on quotes.
The bio section reads well enough to me, but if you need more time to look it over, that's fine.
Tensei-San - Some pointers for Zephyr:
- Here's the company in OCR's database (http://ocremix.org/org/2876/s2-games). Link it up.
- Warcraft 3 --> Warcraft III (the title uses Roman numerals)
- Both instances of "ingame" would look better with a hyphen (in-game).
- "the human Legion" --> This could be read either as a human named Legion or the official name of a group of humans. Careful with it.
- "Hellbourne faction, and defend" --> Cut the comma because the Beast Horde has 2 objectives laid out before them, not a list of 3 or more.
- "windbased" could also use a hyphen (wind-based).
- "using a wind shield" --> "use a wind shield" (since the previous description also uses the infinitive form)
- "Zephyr's ultimate skill conjures" --> Sounds like the skill, not Zephyr, conjures the attack. You can try "Zephyr's ultimate skill involves him conjuring..." or similar. Just make it clear the owl is the one in control of the move.
- "heal himself up" --> You can cut "up" because "heal up" sounds awkward when "heal (himself)" would be simpler.
- "farm very quickly" --> Uh... what? I'm confused.
- Paragraph 4 can be combined with paragraph 3 to finish detailing Zephyr's skills and how he handles for beginners. Also, the mention that he's popular can be left to paragraph 5.
- "Zephyr is enjoys" --> Cut "is" ;)
- Personal nitpick: Your last single-sentence paragraph brings up "Zephyr" 4 times. Try changing the second two to "him" or "the owl" or something for variation.
- Does Zephyr say something more human-like? If so, you can change it to that. But if he only emits animal-like sounds that aren't exactly unique to him, then leave out his quote.
- PC isn't in OCR's systems list, so we say Windows (or DOS or whatever) in the appearance lists.
- Bios require at least 2 reference links, so add another one about Zephyr and/or the game.
Lots of little notes, I know. But I think he's a pretty interesting character even though I never played Heroes of Newerth. Polish up the bio for great justice.
Liontamer - Do you mean links to the newly uploaded bios like Zero and Red, as well as who's claimed which mascot and has a WIP? Dafydd can probably update the first post with that info, if he's okay with it. Or do you have something else in mind?
P.S. Can you get djp to add the blue Tap Runner already? He's now over a year late.
Mirby - No dice. A few problems with that link:
1) It's more than half action-based entertainment than simplified detail critical to Zero's character/backstory. Reference links stress further READING rather than WATCHING.
2) You said yourself it's a bit different from what you wrote/researched. I don't really see Zero using Sigma's pride or confidence against him. And the W appears before Sigma bashes in Zero's helmet. It's a disservice to point readers to evidence that says "no, actually, it didn't play out that way" in contrast with the details you include in a bio.
3) YouTube comments don't guarantee consistent relevance to the movie or what it presents (lulz and spam and video quotes and all that).
Also, for future reference, it's important to have every fact, reference link, and so forth laid out in a bio BEFORE it's entered into the Wiki rather than bringing up stuff posthumously. We don't entertain adjustments in the wording unless it hinders the basic flow and understanding of a mascot, and reference links are only updated if they get broken or changed. (If a citation vanishes for good, we search for a fitting replacement, but the info provided must be as accurate as possible and cannot conflict with what the bio says or confuse the reader.)
Mirby
07-03-2010, 09:31 AM
my bad, I didn't know. I mainly posted that on a whim. Meh, no matter.
Dafydd
07-04-2010, 11:15 AM
I uploaded the Cube to the Wiki and used the new, short url for the "created by" link.
I know OCR doesn't list this yet, but Portal has been ported (huh huh) to both Xbox, Mac OS and PS3 by now. I only listed it under Windows since OCR does.
Also:
http://www.aeropause.com/archives/images/portal-thumb-410x378.jpg
:nicework: on the upload, Dafydd. There were a few things I corrected in your bio:
- hyphens that act like dashes - were replaced by actual dashes — for improved visibility
- "at great moral difficulty" --> a great moral difficulty
- some instances of italics (they're for game titles and nothing else)
- the Wikiquote link now ends in _(game) so the page doesn't say "redirected from..."
- the last reference's label and link were tweaked for accuracy
Should be fine now.
Kefka Palazzo
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_160.png
Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Dissidia: Final Fantasy
Created by: Square (http://ocremix.org/org/123/square)
First appearance: 1994
Bio
As far as main antagonists go, Final Fantasy VI's Kefka Palazzo ranks among the most criminally insane. His gaudy outfit and clown face mask his destructive tendencies, his short-tempered outbursts, and his lust for power that spares no regard for human life. When he emits his signature cackle (so prevalent that it's even mixed into the final boss music), players know he's up to no good.
At the start of the game, Kefka's a trusted General assigned to carry out the dirty work of Emperor Gestahl. The assignment: to extend the Empire's influence by harnessing and manipulating the force of magic however possible. Creatures that are naturally capable of controlling magic, Espers, are snagged, studied, and raped of their metaphysical potential, which is then transferred into the skill set of everyone loyal to the Emperor. When Kefka first received his share, something inside him snapped, and he desired more power still. It was the beginning of the end of the World of Balance.
Kefka deals with every obstacle swiftly and in his own sadistic manner. When he suspects a king is hiding a person vital to the Empire, he sets his castle aflame to smoke out the individual. To bring an end to another castle's resistance, he poisons their drinking water to make them drop one after another. He doesn't directly fight often, instead choosing to run or have soldiers fight in his stead, but he's not above slaying his own allies if it'll add to his share of spoils. Such is the extent of the General's war crimes that he rearranges the face of the world on both large and small scales, in the process becoming a godly end boss with a sublime command of magic. And with it, he raises his glass to nihilism as he continues to destroy all he wants.
Quote
"Hee, hee! Nothing can beat the music of hundreds of voices screaming in unison!"
Selected game appearances
=== Super NES ===
Final Fantasy VI (http://ocremix.org/game/6/final-fantasy-vi-snes) (1994)
References
Final Fantasy Wiki - "Kefka Palazzo" (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo)
Wikipedia - "Kefka Palazzo" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo)
Badass of the Week: Kefka Palazzo (Cefka) (http://www.badassoftheweek.com/kefka.html)
Dafydd
07-06-2010, 09:49 AM
Thanks for fixing up my bio. I actually thought you could say "at great difficulty", but perhaps it doesn't fit there.
Such are the extent of the General's war crimes
Even though "war crimes" is plural, "extent" is singular, so shouldn't it be "such is the extent"?
Other than that, excellent work as per usual. It's a shame you're not a ReMixer, Polo :<
Ah yes, it should be singular. "Such is the extent..." Yeah, I was probably latching onto the plural "war crimes" and not "extent." Good catch.
Also, you can say "at great difficulty," but not "at great moral difficulty."
Arek the Absolute
07-06-2010, 10:07 AM
Summer school or not, this is getting done.
Much appreciation to Polo for being understanding and patient.
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*snip*
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Any thoughts?
I was wondering when you would make a comeback, Arek. It gladdens my heart to see you're still in the game. Here's your notes:
- Agent is spelled with one G, not two.
- "implanted as her left eye" --> implanted in her left eye
- "an extremely tricky opponent" --> "a tricky opponent" would work better because "extremely" would be debatable to Street Fighter pros.
- "shoot or store fireballs from her feet at three different angles" --> It sounds like she stores fireballs from different angles. Do you mean she stores fireballs in her feet and shoots them at three different angles?
- "well accepted" --> add a hyphen (well-accepted)
The good news is that you adequately trimmed down the paragraph about her backstory that gave you so much trouble. Mysterious yet purposeful = enticing without spoilers. I can also imagine how scary M. Bison and Shadoloo are from this description - one encounter crushes your life and turns you into a fighter seeking revenge. Wow.
After this round of cleanup (as long as you clarify that fourth note), Juri Han will most certainly be ready for the Wiki. Go for it.
Arek the Absolute
07-06-2010, 11:09 AM
lol at the typos. this is what i get for trying to type after doing a good load of studying. :3
and yup, she can store up to three fireballs, one for each kick button, and launch them at different angles depending on the kick.
Edited as requested by the awesome Polo:
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_153.png
Juri Han
Article by: Arek The Absolute (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=12255)
Pictured from: Super Street Fighter IV
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 2010
Bio
Beautiful, enticing, and deadly, Juri Han is a woman who proves that roses do have thorns. She enters the second chapter of Capcom's Street Fighter IV with a bang.
Working under a man named Seth as an agent of S.I.N. under the very appropriate alias, "Spider", Juri is a character shrouded in mystery. As dark and maniacal as she is, Juri once lived life as a normal girl, but just as with Chun-Li, her life made a tragic twist once M. Bison and Shadaloo came into the picture. Juri's intentions for entering the tournament are fittingly mysterious, but whatever they may be, encountering M. Bison is definitely a key motivation.
Juri uses Tae Kwon Do as her fighting style of choice, a first for the Street Fighter scene. Many fans of fighting games will immediately draw parallels to SNK's own Kim Kaphwan, but she has more than enough merits to label her unique, as if Capcom was making her a cross-company foil. While Kim Kaphwan fights for justice and epitomizes "honor" in every sense of the word, Juri, staying true to her alias of "Spider", is cold and merciless, always toying with her prey after decimating them in combat. Compassion is a word she eliminated from her dictionary long ago.
Not only different in demeanor from Kim, Juri is far more offensive and crafty, utilizing the "Feng Shui System" implanted in her left eye to its fullest extent. She excels at both close and long-range combat, making her a tricky opponent to fight against. Quick and agile, she can to rack up combos and confuse her opponents. With the "Feng Shui System", she is able to empower her pinwheel-esque spin move Senpusha, and can keep her opponents at bay using Fuhajin, a technique allowing her to store fireballs in her feet and shoot them at three different angles. Intended by game producer Yoshinori Ono to be a character who is easily accessible to those newer to fighting games, Juri is a character that is easy to pick up, yet hard to master, making her a well-accepted addition to the vast cast of the Street Fighter series.
Quote
"I enjoyed hearing you scream. I'm looking forward to hearing it again."
Selected game appearances
Xbox 360
Super Street Fighter IV (http://ocremix.org/game/609/super-street-fighter-iv-xb360) (2010)
References
Wikipedia - "Juri" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_characters#Juri)
The Fighter's Generation - "Juri" (http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/juri.html)
Fight-A-Base - "Juri" (http://www.fenixware.net/fab/fab_charMain.asp?id=3799&order=0)
Dafydd
07-06-2010, 11:35 AM
I'd like to see some of those "is able to" switched for "can" or removed altogether, especially when you have it twice in the same sentence, but that's just me. Try
she is able to empower her pinwheel-esque spin move Senpusha, and can keep her opponents at bay using Fuhajin
or even
she can empower her pinwheel-esque spin move Senpusha, and keeps her opponents at bay using Fuhajin
just to demonstrate my point.
Overall, there's a few parts that bother me a little, like "is a woman that proves that", "but one that is clear, is that", "is a word that she". But I'm not generally a fan of the word "that", one I prefer to omit whenever possible. It's all a matter of style, and your choice. I just thought I should point it out while I still can.
And Juri Han's finally been uploaded, taking into account Dafydd's feedback as well. One thing I should mention is that "Feng Shui Engine" comes up far more than "Feng Shui System" in a Google search, so I went with that instead.
Anyway, cheers, Arek. :nicework:
Arek the Absolute
07-06-2010, 12:39 PM
Awesome!
Thanks to you both for the editing help and patience!
It was fun. Looking forward to doing another sometime in the future *hopefully during a time without school :P*
Kefka Palazzo has just been uploaded, and now I'll try my hand at Guybrush Threepwood.
Dafydd
07-07-2010, 10:22 AM
Looking forward to it, mighty pirate.
Darklink42
07-08-2010, 04:21 AM
Extremely rough version. I think I'm need of a little direction on this one before I continue, so feel free to offer any advice you've got. Apologies for the delay.
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Phoenix Wright
Article by: Taylor Lake (Darklink42) (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=15270)
Pictured from: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 2001
Bio
When it was first ported overseas to America, there was some doubt about how Ace Attorney series would be received. Now known for its over-the-top court room cases, excellent storytelling, and huge cast of memorable characters, the series and Phoenix Wright himself has become a well known name to gamers. In particular, his trademark shout of “Objection!” and his finger pointing, full arm thrust have become popular icons among gamers and internet surfers alike.
Phoenix Wright is a defense lawyer who takes on cases that often seem hopeless. His ability to turn crushing loss into success is the reason why every case is referred to as a “turnabout”. Despite this, he’s not a very confidant man when put under the gun, often having to rely on his friends to point out where he’s gone wrong. But he believes very firmly in the innocence of his clients, and isn’t afraid to argue against everyone he knows to prove it. Outside of the courtroom, he is a genuinely caring man who looks after those who have been wronged. He is, however, generous to a fault, often forced to buy or pay for things that his friends want.
The series itself focuses on Phoenix Wright and various trials throughout his career which have brought him into contact with some of his closest friends and allies. The Fey family, for instance, play a major role in his life. Mia Fey acts as his mentor and friend, but it is her younger sister Maya, who is his constant companion. She tags along as his partner, providing helpful advice and counter-pointing Phoenix’s often dry observations with her own quirky observations. Among his other allies are the bumbling but loyal Detective Dick Gumshoe, his fiercest competitor Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth, and the ever troublemaking Larry Butz.
Quote
" Take That!”
Selected game appearances
Phoenix Wright (http://ocremix.org/game/493/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-nds) (2001)
References
Wikipedia- "Phoenix Wright" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Wright_(character))
Court Records Profile- "Phoenix Wright" (http://www.court-records.net/chara-phoenix.htm)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Instruction Manual
HOLD IT! *slaps hands on table*
(a.k.a. feedback)
- I went and checked, and that mascot image is actually from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations.
- Care to elaborate on how and why the series was thought not to be well-received at first? Like, the courtroom might be a controversial setting for an adventure game? Americans jaded by courtroom dramas? The characters' names and the game dialogue too difficult to translate faithfully? The first sentence is an unresolved cliff-hanger.
- "excellent storytelling" --> "Excellent" is more opinion than fact. Is it fast-paced? Does it allow multiple resolutions? Is the atmosphere tense and true to a courtroom case? Specify.
- "the series and Phoenix Wright himself has become" --> You mean have become, since you're grouping 1) the series and 2) Phoenix Wright as two items.
- "well known" --> add a hyphen (well-known)
- "and his finger pointing, full arm thrust have become" --> The part "full arm thrust" after the comma doesn't feel secured. Either add a comma after "thrust" or cut the comma already there and add "with his" to make the clause complete.
- Out of curiosity, why add "internet surfers" to the mix? I mean, sure, it's true, what with internet memes and the Phoenix Wrong parodies and so on, but it might be more accurate if you said the internet community rather than surfers. The current wording just raised an eyebrow.
- "turnabout". --> We talked about this before - the period goes within the quote marks, remember?
- confidant --> confident (E, not A)
- "The Fey family, for instance, play a major role" --> I might be wrong on this, but isn't the Fey family referred to as one item, meaning it should be followed by a singular S-ending verb (plays)? "The family plays a major role..." is the wording I imagine. If you said "the people/members of the Fey family..." then it would end in a plural non-S-ending verb (play). I think British English accepts "the family play a major role..." as grammatically correct, however.
- "but it is her younger sister Maya, who is his constant companion" --> Either cut the comma here or add another after the word "sister."
- counter-pointing --> Counterpointing doesn't have a hyphen.
- So Miles Edgeworth is an ally at one point? If so, you might need to explain how and when he sides with Phoenix, because anyone not in the know would end up confused on the prosecutor's stance. Maybe put him at the end of the list, along with an aside or footnote-ish tidbit.
- I'm familiar with the lawyer's quote, but it's not unique enough to him. Anyone can say "take that!" in any number of situations. The Phoenix Wright series has tons of dialogue, I'm aware, and something specific that only he would say would fit better.
- A linked game in the Selected game appearances list requires its full title (Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney), the system above it (Nintendo DS, according to what's at the end of its link), and the correct year of release (2005 for the DS port, not 2001).
Since the series is rife with case study spoilers, you made the right choice to focus on Phoenix's character and his relationships with friends/enemies. If you feel it's not enough, you can add how he got his start as a lawyer or what influenced him to become one, if it's simple enough. And perhaps you can give an overview about how the games play out. You know, how you gather and present evidence, how cross-examinations work, what happens if the player screws up on an accusation, etc.
Liontamer
07-09-2010, 03:35 AM
STYLE CHANGES
http://ocremix.org/info/Kefka_Palazzo
Move the quote up top and make it it's own italicized section header, i.e.
== ''"QUOTATION STUFF"'' ==
Quotes look silly having their own section, plus it's cooler to have them up top, makeing it more compelling to read the subsequent bios.
Also, for all first mentions of the character name in the article, please bold the name, i.e.
'''Kefka Palazzo'''
Thanks to anyone who can help! I think these are small but important revisions. To keep easy track of this, work alphabetically. I've done N-Z.
I actually go by mascot number (from 001 onwards), not alphabetically. That's how I ordered it in one of my TXT files that contains a copy of every article's Wiki source code. Just saying.
The bios are certainly more attention-grabbing with the quotes more prominently featured. Moving the quotes and bolding the initial mascot name appearances have both been finished.
Also, I removed Ness's quote because it goes against the last part of his bio ("Ness does not talk during the entirety of the game...").
Liontamer
07-10-2010, 10:23 AM
Also, I removed Ness's quote because it goes against the last part of his bio ("Ness does not talk during the entirety of the game...").
Apparently, he says/thinks that to himself in a dream at the end of EarthBound. He just didn't speak or have his thoughts presented for most of EarthBound. He's talked in the Smash series, so he's not entirely mute throughout his character history. So there's no reason there shouldn't at least be something in the way of a quote. If it's a matter of using a legitimate quote or attempting to make a sentence "true" through omission, go with the former. :-)
Demonstray
07-10-2010, 11:20 AM
Uh I just clicked the HUnewearl (Mascot 027 apparently) from Phantasy Star Online, and there's no mention of PSO Episodes I&II on Gamecube, only on the Xbox. I own the Gamecube version, in case there's any doubt. :-)
I know, I'm just nitpicking. :razz:
Apparently, he says/thinks that to himself in a dream at the end of EarthBound. He just didn't speak or have his thoughts presented for most of EarthBound. He's talked in the Smash series, so he's not entirely mute throughout his character history. So there's no reason there shouldn't at least be something in the way of a quote. If it's a matter of using a legitimate quote or attempting to make a sentence "true" through omission, go with the former. :-)
Points taken. I reinstated his quote and reworded the bio's final sentence for accuracy. :)
Btw, Voldo only emits gags/hacks/breaths of hot air that aren't precisely unique to him or even understandable English. (I mean, his mouth's covered like his eyes.) So his "quote" is not practically serviceable. :(
Uh I just clicked the HUnewearl (Mascot 027 apparently) from Phantasy Star Online, and there's no mention of PSO Episodes I&II on Gamecube, only on the Xbox. I own the Gamecube version, in case there's any doubt. :-)
I know, I'm just nitpicking. :razz:
True, it's ported to both systems. I just put it under Xbox for variety (apart from Dreamcast and GameCube) and because the GameCube version isn't remixed on OCR (if it was, it would be properly listed and linked).
Dafydd
07-11-2010, 11:08 AM
It's funny how this project sees no action at all for long streches of time and then suddenly all hell breaks loose. Thanks for updating the bios according to the new guidelines!
I like the Phoenix Wright bio, aside from a few misspelled words and missing "the". Fix it up according to Polo's suggestions and let us have a look at the result! :)
Darklink42
07-11-2010, 08:30 PM
It's funny how this project sees no action at all for long streches of time and then suddenly all hell breaks loose. Thanks for updating the bios according to the new guidelines!
I like the Phoenix Wright bio, aside from a few misspelled words and missing "the". Fix it up according to Polo's suggestions and let us have a look at the result! :)
Should have it fixed up by tonight and posted.
Edit: I actually have a question if anyone knows the answer. Was Phoenix Wright the first game to be set almost entirely in the courtroom? I think it was, but I haven't been able to find a lot of reliable information to confirm or deny that idea.
Darklink42
07-12-2010, 04:48 AM
Hey Polo, thanks for the look up on the picture. I assumed it was the same one as the instruction manual for the first game without looking closely at the one we're using. I chose the word "surfers" originally as a way to avoid using the word "meme" in the article. I realized later that it's kind of a dated term at this point, and felt kind of old. Also, is the second sentence alright, or should I attempt to explain better why the adventure game genre was considered outdated before this and a couple of other games were released?
Phoenix Wright
" I was hoping I'd come up with a question while pounding on my desk ... I didn't.”
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_162.png
Article by: Taylor Lake (Darklink42) (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=15270)
Pictured from: Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations
Created by: Capcom (http://ocremix.org/org/4/capcom)
First appearance: 2001
Bio
When it was first ported overseas to America, there was some doubt about how the Ace Attorney series would be received. It was a pure adventure game, an entry into a genre which had been all but replaced by action-adventure and role-playing games, along with the advent of more powerful gaming platforms. Now known for its over-the-top courtroom cases, expert blend of dark scenarios and humorous storytelling, and huge cast of memorable characters, the series and Phoenix Wright himself have become a familiar name to gamers. In particular, his trademark shout of “Objection!” with his finger pointing, full arm thrust have become popular icons among gamers and the internet community alike.
Phoenix Wright is a defense lawyer who takes on cases that often seem hopeless. His ability to turn crushing loss into success is the reason why every case is referred to as a “turnabout.” Despite this, he’s not a very confident man when put under the gun, often having to rely on his friends to point out where he’s gone wrong. Phoenix makes up for his flaws by believing very firmly in the innocence of his clients, and is willing to argue against everyone he knows to prove it. Outside of the courtroom, he is a genuinely caring man who looks after those who have been wronged. He is, however, generous to a fault, often ending up paying for things that his friends want.
The series itself focuses on Phoenix Wright and the various trials throughout his career which have brought him into contact with some of his closest friends and allies. The Fey family, for instance, plays a major role in his life, starting when Mia Fey defends Phoenix in court. Once he decides to become a lawyer, Mia acts as his boss, mentor, and best friend. Despite that, it is her younger sister Maya that becomes his constant companion. She tags along as his partner, providing helpful advice and counterpointing Phoenix’s often dry observations with her own quirky ones. Among his other allies are the bumbling but loyal Detective Dick Gumshoe, the ever troublemaking Larry Butz, and his fiercest competitor, Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth, who has come to respect Phoenix and even act as a reluctant ally after losing several cases against him.
Selected game appearances
Nintendo DS
-Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (http://ocremix.org/game/493/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-nds) (2005)
References
Wikipedia- "Phoenix Wright" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Wright_(character))
Court Records Profile- "Phoenix Wright" (http://www.court-records.net/chara-phoenix.htm)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Instruction Manual
Also, is the second sentence alright, or should I attempt to explain better why the adventure game genre was considered outdated before this and a couple of other games were released?
Yeah, I think a clearer explanation is in order. A genre having only a handful of titles for it doesn't always mean one more addition will suck (if, say, every previous title is awesome). If you mean to say the genre's scope is generally restricting/difficult/tedious - and that the Ace Attorney games take place in the courtroom, one of the most serious places on earth - it might help answer the first sentence's hidden question.
- "1990’s and early 2000’s" --> You actually don't need apostrophes when describing decades; "1990s and early 2000s" works.
- "Court room" is actually one word (courtroom)
- "buy or pay for" --> These sound like the same thing. I think "pay for" would cover all bases re expenses.
- trouble-making --> You had it right before; there's no hyphen in troublemaking.
- "competitor Prosecutor" --> I think a comma would help here, since you put two descriptive nouns together. You can't be a competitor Prosecutor, but you can be a competitor AND a Prosecutor.
So yeah, the first note's a point of contention right now. But the rest of the article's certainly improved.
Guybrush Threepwood
"I may be a dunce, but at least I'm a mighty pirate dunce!"
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_159.png
Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Tales of Monkey Island
Created by: LucasArts (http://ocremix.org/org/41/lucasarts)
First appearance: 1990
Bio
Guybrush Threepwood, self-proclaimed "mighty pirate," is the protagonist of every Monkey Island game. Although his appearance changes along with the art style in each installment, he maintains his cheerful disposition, his wit, and his proud ability to hold his breath for ten minutes.
In the first game, The Secret of Monkey Island, Guybrush is a castaway on Mêlée Island with a burning urge to be a swashbuckler. To prove himself worthy, he must complete the three trials of piratehood: swordplay (besting the Sword Master in combat), thievery (stealing a relic from the Governor's mansion), and treasure huntery (finding the titular secret of Monkey Island). Along the way, he falls in love with the Governor, Elaine Marley, and rescues her from the ghost pirate LeChuck, the main antagonist of the series. In life and death, LeChuck has become the most feared pirate in the Caribbean, at least until Guybrush foils his plans, and in later games, he seeks to master the darkest voodoo arts in an effort to both reclaim control of the seas and rid himself of the lad. Fortunately, Guybrush is backed by his share of crew members and recurring allies on his adventures, including the Voodoo Lady, the mapmaker Wally B. Feed, the hermit Herman Toothrot, and of course his "plunderbunny" Elaine.
Through the combined use of the point-and-click interface and the humorous writing style of many LucasArts titles, Guybrush builds his reputation as a buccaneer to be reckoned with. If he can't afford a ship, he'll sail waters in a fitting substitute, like a coffin or a bumper car or even a child's flotation device. His pockets are deep and plentiful, and he plunders anything useful to solve a puzzle, such as a live monkey, a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle, and a person's spit. When talking to other characters, the player's response choices can range from direct to colorfully non sequitur — in particular, a sport called insult swordfighting requires the delivery of scathing retorts to match the opponent's in order to win a sword duel. And if all else fails, our hero can resort to selling someone some fine leather jackets, or he can distract them with "look behind you, a three-headed monkey!"
Selected game appearances
=== DOS ===
The Secret of Monkey Island (http://ocremix.org/game/212/secret-of-monkey-island-dos) (1990)
Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge (http://ocremix.org/game/302/monkey-island-2-lechucks-revenge-dos) (1991)
=== Windows ===
The Curse of Monkey Island (1997)
Escape from Monkey Island (2000)
Tales of Monkey Island (2009)
References
Wikipedia - "Guybrush Threepwood" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guybrush_Threepwood)
The Monkey Island SCUMM Bar - "The Secret of Monkey Island" (http://scummbar.com/games/index.php?game=1&sub=info)
LucasArts.com | The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition (http://www.lucasarts.com/games/monkeyisland/)
Wikiquote - "Monkey Island" (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Monkey_Island)
Darklink42
07-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Edited. I hope that better gets across what I was shooting for. I originally wanted to say that it was the first game to tackle the courtroom, but since I can't back that up with any real proof, I thought it might be better to point out that the Ace Attorney series has helped bring back adventure games as a genre from near extinction.
Also some minor edits for Guybrush:
- I just now realized that "Mêlée" is actually supposed to have those two grammatical marks. >_>
- "Along the way, he falls in love with the Governor, Elaine Marley, and rescues..." Feels like a nitpick, but does there need to be a comma after "along the way"?
- "and the humor characteristic of many LucasArts titles" "The humorous characteristics of many..."
- "like a coffin or a bumper car or even a child's flotation device" I feel like we've covered it before, but does there need to be commas after the "or"s?
Pretty solid bio there Polo.
Ah, so it was being measured by its more widely preferred competition. That's understandable. We'll see what Dafydd has to say about it, then hopefully Phoenix can be Wiki'ed up.
EDIT:
- "Along the way, he falls in love with the Governor, Elaine Marley, and rescues..." Feels like a nitpick, but does there need to be a comma after "along the way"?
It helps it feel more contained. It is kind of a preference thing, but I noticed Liontamer added some commas in these sorts of places in some bios when he did the quote moving and name bolding. If anything, it makes the reader hold their breath as they learn what Guybrush did "along the way."
- "and the humor characteristic of many LucasArts titles" "The humorous characteristics of many..."
I was referring to the hilarious writing style, especially the dialogue in Monkey Island and Grim Fandango and all. Your suggestion sounds fine, although "characteristics" as a noun can refer to more than just the writing. But I altered it to make it clearer.
- "like a coffin or a bumper car or even a child's flotation device" I feel like we've covered it before, but does there need to be commas after the "or"s?
Not if you choose to lazily throw out items like "this or that or whatever." I also noticed I originally had several comma-separated listings of three (i.e. one, two, and three) and wanted to change it up so the bio wouldn't get stale.
Thanks though.
Dafydd
07-12-2010, 11:51 AM
Me like commas. Keep them.
Regarding the humorous writing style and your wish to indicate that the writing style is not only humorous but features a rather particular kind of humor, this feels like a wonderful opportunity make use of the word "trademark". Especially since there is already a trademarked work in that same sentence, as this makes for a nice pun. :<
I don't know if it really needs mentioning, but at least in the later installments of the series, there's not only insult sword fighting, but also insult arm wrestling, and, I'm sure, at least one more insult sport besides those two.
Not really fond of the ending though. Seem like it's written as if three-headed monkeys and selling fine leather jackets is the funniest shit ever, and therefore a fine grande finale. Just being as ass about it while I still can :)
Now, on to Phoenix Wright...
"role-playing games, along with the advent" - here I'd actually prefer to do away with comma.
"often forced to pay for things that his friends want" - how is he forced to pay for them? How about "often ending up paying for things"? "Forced" feels too strong in this context, but maybe there's a reason for it, in which case I'd like to hear an example... :)
"wrong. But he" - I'm not big on "But" being the first word of a sentence. How about "However, " or something? This is just personal preference, really, I'm just throwing it, like everything else I say, out there.
"Phoenix Wright and various trials" - I want a "the" before "various", because it feels like those various trials aren't just any random trials, but specific ones that have had a profound impact on his life. I could be wrong. Also, there's no explanation as to how he comes into contact with the Fey family - did he defend one of the members of this family, is one of them a co-worker of his, what?
Little nitpicks, all of it, and I'm feeling grumpy, too. Sorry if I come off as too harsh.
Darklink42
07-12-2010, 09:06 PM
Made most of the edits, and no, they didn't seem that harsh.
I feel like the comma before "along" is justified unless I re-write the whole sentence. Maybe it's just me reading it weird, but it looks funky without that comma there for a brief break in the two concepts.
I thought that explaining how each of the Fey family members played a role was sufficient, but if it's really bothersome, I changed it up a little. I don't know if it's any better. Your call.
Dafydd
07-12-2010, 09:37 PM
Yeah, I like the edit you made. I'm sorry to be so indecisive, but I think maybe that "But" you changed into a "However" would be better off as a "but" preceded by a comma instead of a period. That would make it read better, I think. Again, just... throwing it out there. Sorry for the hassle. What do you think?
Darklink42
07-12-2010, 10:00 PM
I think both suck actually, after really looking at them. Your original point stands, but the "however" just read wrong overall too. I made a different edit to the sentence that seems a little better, and avoids either word.
Dafydd
07-12-2010, 10:12 PM
That's better. Thanks!
Abadoss
07-12-2010, 10:46 PM
[...] and treasure huntery (finding the titular secret of Monkey Island).
Not quite. The treasure he was supposed to find for the three trials was the Treasure of Mêlée Island (a t-shirt).
Phoenix Wright's bio looks finished to me. My only note is that counterpointing (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/counterpoint), again, is one word, not two. You want to upload it, Dafydd, or should I?
The treasure he was supposed to find for the three trials was the Treasure of Mêlée Island.
Fixed. Thanks for double-checking.
Looking over Guybrush's bio, I think I crammed too much into my 3rd paragraph, so I had to simplify a few things. Here's v.2:
Guybrush Threepwood
"I may be a dunce, but at least I'm a mighty pirate dunce!"
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Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Tales of Monkey Island
Created by: LucasArts (http://ocremix.org/org/41/lucasarts)
First appearance: 1990
Bio
Guybrush Threepwood, self-proclaimed "mighty pirate," is the protagonist of every Monkey Island game. Although his appearance changes along with the art style in each installment, he maintains his cheerful disposition, his wit, and his proud ability to hold his breath for ten minutes.
In the first game, The Secret of Monkey Island, Guybrush is a castaway on Mêlée Island with a burning urge to be a swashbuckler. To prove himself worthy, he must complete the three trials of piratehood: swordplay (besting the Sword Master in combat), thievery (stealing a relic from the Governor's mansion), and treasure huntery (finding the Treasure of Mêlée Island). Along the way, he falls in love with the Governor, Elaine Marley, and rescues her from the ghost pirate LeChuck, the main antagonist of the series. In life and death, LeChuck has become the most feared pirate in the Caribbean, at least until Guybrush foils his plans, and in later games, he seeks to master the darkest voodoo arts in an effort to both reclaim control of the seas and rid himself of the lad. Fortunately, Guybrush is backed by his share of crew members and recurring allies on his adventures, including the Voodoo Lady, the mapmaker Wally B. Feed, the hermit Herman Toothrot, and of course his "plunderbunny" Elaine.
The gameplay of each Monkey Island title centers around solving puzzles through a point-and-click interface. Guybrush's pockets are deep and plentiful, and everywhere he goes he plunders anything useful — from live animals to human spit — and applies it to other objects, people, and situations in order to advance. Some puzzles depend on choosing the right response — sports like insult swordfighting and insult arm wrestling require the delivery of scathing retorts that match the opponent's in order to gain the upper hand (for example, "you fight like a dairy farmer" can only be countered with "how appropriate. You fight like a cow").
No matter what Guybrush crosses — seas, villains, or swords — those who know of his deeds view him as a buccaneer to be reckoned with.
Selected game appearances
=== DOS ===
The Secret of Monkey Island (http://ocremix.org/game/212/secret-of-monkey-island-dos) (1990)
Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge (http://ocremix.org/game/302/monkey-island-2-lechucks-revenge-dos) (1991)
=== Windows ===
The Curse of Monkey Island (1997)
Escape from Monkey Island (2000)
Tales of Monkey Island (2009)
References
Wikipedia - "Guybrush Threepwood" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guybrush_Threepwood)
The Monkey Island SCUMM Bar - "The Secret of Monkey Island" (http://scummbar.com/games/index.php?game=1&sub=info)
LucasArts.com | The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition (http://www.lucasarts.com/games/monkeyisland/)
Wikiquote - "Monkey Island" (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Monkey_Island)
Dafydd
07-14-2010, 10:59 AM
Might as well let you do it, I think you have more routine in that area. Personally, I'm not sure what goes in italics in a bio. Game titles, is that all?
Shame you didn't get something about crossbones into that last sentence. :lol:
All righty. Phoenix has now joined the great Mascot category in the sky. And yeah, only game titles are italicized (EDIT: and game series, movies, books, and magazines, if they appear in the bio).
Shame you didn't get something about crossbones into that last sentence. :lol:
Bwa ha ha, that's clever. Although I think it might fly over more than a few people's heads the first time if it wasn't directly a compound word.
"He crosses... bones? As in dead people? Does he dig up... OH, crossBONES! HAHAHAHAHAetc."
Dafydd
07-14-2010, 12:33 PM
Yeah, most of my jokes tend to fly over people's heads. As a result, most people don't think I'm that much fun. Glad to have another clever person around (though I never doubted your being so, and though I'm not sure you actually found that joke funny whether you got it or not) ;-)
I got it. It was just more clever than funny. :-)
Following Phoenix, Guybrush has now been added to the ranks. Next, I'll take a stab at Heavy from Team Fortress 2.
Dafydd
07-14-2010, 05:27 PM
Looking forward to it. I don't feel like I can contribute all that much more to writing bios for the latest batch of new mascots, but I will lurk around, ready with nitpicks whenever someone else posts one.
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Tensei
07-14-2010, 09:51 PM
Zephyr
"Wisdom flies with the wind."
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Article by: Tensei-San (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=16286)
Pictured from: Heroes of Newerth
Created by: S2 Games (http://ocremix.org/org/2876/s2-games)
First appearance: 2010
Bio
Zephyr is one of 60+ playable heroes in the PC game Heroes of Newerth. While the game is based on a Warcraft III modification called "Defense of the Ancients", and borrows many ideas and elements from it, Zephyr is a completely original creation by S2 Games.
According to the in-game lore, Zephyr is part of the Beast Horde, a faction of anthropomorphic animals who have allied themselves with the Legion of humans to combat the nefarious Hellbourne faction and defend the land of Newerth. Zephyr does not have a lot of characterization, but he is described as a riddler, a sage, and a lover of sweets. In combat he is simply known as the warrior of the winds. Zephyr's design is based on the looks of real-life horned owls.
In-game, Zephyr utilizes his wind-based powers for both offense and defense, allowing him, for example, to blow his enemies into a desired direction, or to use a wind shield to deflect blows and increase his movement speed. His ultimate skill involves him conjuring a huge typhoon that slows down and damages any enemies caught within, dealing more damage the closer they are to the center. Zephyr is a popular and strong pick, and isn't hard to learn even for newer players. His cyclones give him both the ability to heal himself, as well as a way of getting an early gold-advantage, while his wind shield gives him great resilience, making him a hero that's quite balanced on both offense and defense.
Zephyr enjoys considerable popularity among the Heroes of Newerth community due to his relatively goofy appearance, which made him the focal point of several forum memes, such as "party-time Zephyr", depicting him surrounded by rainbows and disco balls, and a variation on "Haters gonna hate", featuring the owl with a decidedly smug look on his face.
Selected game appearances
=== Windows/OS X ===
Heroes of Newerth (2010)
References
Zephyr on the official Heroes of Newerth site. (http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroview.php?hid=31)
Zephyr on the Heroes of Newerth Wiki. (unofficial) (http://honwiki.net/wiki/Zephyr)
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Sorry for the late response, I forgot all about it. Edited according to Polo's pointers (thanks :) )
Abadoss
07-14-2010, 10:59 PM
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That weird anime dude is Zidane from Final Fantasy IX...
Dafydd
07-15-2010, 10:10 AM
Thanks, dude! I knew putting that in the title would bring some attention, if nothing else. This project was always about letting those unfamiliar with any of the mascots learn a little bit about them, and a name and a game is a good start. :)
Zephyr's looking good! I'll let Polo run it over with his own nitpick machine to avoid any uncomfortable bumps down the road. I completely forgot about any previous versions of this, sorry about that. I think I would have written it as "the closer they are to its center" rather than "the center", not saying that's necessarily any better.
More notes for Zephyr:
- "Defense of the Ancients", and borrows many ideas --> Personal preference, but the sentence would flow a little smoother without the comma here.
- "or to use a wind shield" --> Cut the word "to" here. The wording follows the form of "his powers allow him to (do one thing) or (do another)" so a second "to" is unnecessary.
I think I would have written it as "the closer they are to its center" rather than "the center", not saying that's necessarily any better.
That could work. Alternatively, the word "it" can be added after "any enemies caught within" for clarity/completion.
- "Zephyr is a popular and strong pick, and isn't hard to learn even for newer players." --> This sentence breaks up the flow when it's in the middle of the paragraph detailing his skill set. I suggest moving it to the end of the paragraph and rewording it (skip four notes down for details).
- "His cyclones give him both the ability to heal himself, as well as a way of getting..." --> This clause would work better if you worded it as "His cyclones give him both the ability to heal himself and a way of getting..." or if you cut the word "both" from it.
- "an early gold-advantage" --> I take it this is a rewording of the "farms quickly" bit I was confused about before? It's still kind of unclear; do you mean he earns extra gold in a fight? (That sounds like the essence of it.)
- "great resilience" --> Replace "great" with something less subjective, like "considerable" or "above average" or something.
- "making him a hero that's quite balanced on both offense and defense." --> I think this clause, plus the one I noted four steps above, should be one closing sentence, reading something like "Because his offense and defense are quite balanced, Zephyr isn't hard to learn even for new players." You don't have to say he's popular because that's already said in the next paragraph, and "strong pick" is already implied in his balanced skills/stats without being subjective. (Also, you should obviously put a period after "resilience.")
Basically, there's some odd grammatical wordings here and there, not to mention chances for improvement in the flow. I'm glad you were able to follow my notes last time, and I hope these aren't too hard to understand either. :)
Tensei
07-16-2010, 06:52 PM
- "an early gold-advantage" --> I take it this is a rewording of the "farms quickly" bit I was confused about before? It's still kind of unclear; do you mean he earns extra gold in a fight? (That sounds like the essence of it.)
Again, thanks for the notes, I'll put up an improved version soonish.
I think I need to clarify a bit on the games mechanics: I originally used 'farming' in the MMO sense of getting gold and items from killing monsters, but I suppose it isn't a term everyone is familiar with. This game operates on a principle similar to MMORPGs where you get gold for killing AI-controlled units, which in turn you can use to buy items that allow you to deal more damage, grant you more armor, etc.
Getting gold faster than other players is a pretty significant advantage, so I kinda felt like pointing that out in the bio, but I'd rather not dedicate an entire paragraph to detailing the games mechanics. That's why I tried to use a concise, catch-all term for it. Maybe you have a better suggestion/synonym? (I'm not a native speaker)
Arek the Absolute
07-16-2010, 07:04 PM
My love for Zidane *as well as the fact that I am finally on summer vacation* is really making me want to write it.
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I won't "claim" him, but I will definitely be working on something for a "just-in-case" situation.
Gonna use Polo's Squall bio as inspiration.
Getting gold faster than other players is a pretty significant advantage, so I kinda felt like pointing that out in the bio, but I'd rather not dedicate an entire paragraph to detailing the games mechanics. That's why I tried to use a concise, catch-all term for it. Maybe you have a better suggestion/synonym? (I'm not a native speaker)
I agree that going into the game's mechanics would deviate from the bio's focus. And I don't have an equally concise term for "gold farming" for those who don't know much about these kinds of games. That leaves two options:
1) Make the sentence clear enough for the layperson. Example: "His cyclones give him the power to heal himself, and in addition, they help him gather gold quicker and earlier in battles than others." (In this example, you might have to cut the fact that his wind shield gives him resilience. The wind shield is brought up earlier in the paragraph, after all.)
2) Leave it out of the bio. Since the MMO interface isn't deeply explored, there would be no harm in leaving out a detail dependent on it. I think the bio has more than enough strong points to offset its absence.
P.S. You have a solid grasp of English for a non-native speaker. :)
My love for Zidane *as well as the fact that I am finally on summer vacation* is really making me want to write it.
I won't "claim" him, but I will definitely be working on something for a "just-in-case" situation.
Not trying to rush you, but you're practically saying "dibs." We're almost done with these latest mascots, and the sooner you get down to it, the less of a chance that someone might steal Zidane from you. If you have just a WIP, we can help you the same way we helped you with your Juri Han bio.
Abadoss
07-17-2010, 04:23 PM
One final note for Guybrush: Mêlée Island™ needs to be trademarked, as that's how it always appeared in the games.
Mêlée Island™ needs to be trademarked, as that's how it always appeared in the games.
Done.™
Heavy
"Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe. *sniff* Maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet."
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Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Team Fortress 2
Created by: Valve (http://ocremix.org/org/1001/valve)
First appearance: 2007
Bio
In Team Fortress 2, two holding companies secretly control both halves of the world's governments through spy fortresses from behind false fronts. Reliable Excavation & Demolition (RED) and Builders League United (BLU) constantly fight for each other's share of authority, solving their disputes with open bloodshed. This is carried out by opposing teams of specially trained character classes who plunge their all into manpower, firepower, and intelligence gathering. Of the nine classes, the Heavy Weapons Guy is the central figure of the game, having starred in the first Meet the Team video.
Hailing from Russia, the Heavy is a bear of a man that loves guns, killing, and calling men who are no match for him cowards and babies. His primary weapon is the Minigun, which he affectionately calls Sasha, and it fires a continuous barrage of bullets after a second of spin-up time. The Natascha operates in a similar fashion but has the capability of slowing its targets with each bullet hit. Due to his own slow speed but high stamina, the Heavy makes full use of these guns in ambushes and when defending wide areas, plowing through defenses and making escape difficult. Other times, if the Heavy can't afford the delay in revving up, he'll shoot quicker shots via Shotgun. In close range, he may even resort to using his fists, with or without Killing Gloves of Boxing on. And should his health fail, he can call a time-out for a few seconds to munch on a Sandvich or a Dalokohs bar.
Combining measured movements, deep-voiced declarations, and a passion for pegging off pests, the Heavy honors his moniker to the hilt.
Selected game appearances
=== Windows ===
Team Fortress 2 (http://ocremix.org/game/604/team-fortress-2-win) (2007)
References
Wikipedia - "Team Fortress 2" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Fortress_2)
Team Fortress Wiki - "Heavy" (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Heavy)
Team Fortress Wiki - "Meet the Heavy" (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Meet_the_Heavy)
DarkeSword
07-19-2010, 01:36 PM
They're called the "Killing Gloves of Boxing," not the "Killing Boxing Gloves." The distinction is important because the abbreviation is supposed to be K.G.B.
Dafydd
07-19-2010, 08:05 PM
I thought I would never see the day when Polo didn't get his facts straight, but here it is. Tears dribble down my chin as the realization of the end of the world hits me like a baseball bat to the groin.
Aside from the gloves, I think this one's ripe for upload.
DarkeSword
07-19-2010, 09:01 PM
Dribble down, not dripple.
As expected of a detail-oriented TF2 admin+player.
The K.G.B. bit has been corrected and the bio now resides among the other Hs in the Hallowed List of Articles.
And I'll take care of the last uncalled mascot, Rayman.
Dafydd
07-21-2010, 06:59 PM
Dribble down, not dripple.
Thanks for your concern. I feel compelled to say something witty about that 'e' in your username, but I'd probably regret it at some point.
Looking forward to seeing that Ray-Man bio!
A humble 5th birthday to a tl;dr thread full of articles, edits, and rules about the English language. You're half OCR's age, and although djp hasn't posted in you once (as of this post), eh still thinks you're meritorious and doesn't afraid of anything.
Cheers.
Rayman
"Yahoo! Alright ladies and gents, let's roll!"
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Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Rayman 2: The Great Escape
Created by: Ubisoft (http://ocremix.org/org/68/ubisoft)
First appearance: 1995
Bio
How does one born without arms, legs, or even a neck keep his head and extremities close together? The world may never know, but this enigma doesn't seem the least bit odd to Rayman, who stars in a series of platformers where physics-defying phenomena are commonplace. His distinct anatomy, heroic antics, and personality all help him shine as Ubisoft's official mascot.
A typical Rayman adventure involves the limbless one rescuing his friends and reclaiming his world from whatever swarm of invaders descends upon it. Villains like the cloaked Mr. Dark, the pirate Admiral Razorbeard, and the Rabbids all have their own methods of stirring up trouble, from stealing a world-balancing essence to imprisoning the natives. Among the good guys, there's Lums (magical bugs), Teensies (stout advisors), and Fairies like Betilla and Ly, who grant Rayman some of his powers to fight their would-be conquerors.
Punching is Rayman's primary mode of attack — he winds up and throws his fists not only to pummel enemies, but also to move obstacles from his path. His range increases in the second game when he can shoot energy spheres from his mitts. There's a power-up in the third game called Laser Washing Powder which, when picked up, dresses Rayman in one of several combat fatigues that come equipped with unique abilities, such as lowering platforms, shooting guided missiles, and electrocuting enemies. Even his quaffs of hair have a use: they can spin like a helicopter propeller and allow him to fly or glide through the air.
Whatever the price Rayman must pay for his own freedom and others', at least it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Selected game appearances
=== Jaguar ===
Rayman (1995)
=== Nintendo 64 ===
Rayman 2: The Great Escape (http://ocremix.org/game/470/rayman-2-the-great-escape-n64) (1999)
=== GameCube ===
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc (2003)
=== Wii ===
Rayman Raving Rabbids (2006)
References
Wikipedia - "Rayman (character)" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayman_(character))
Rayman instruction manual
Rayman 2: The Great Escape instruction manual
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc instruction manual
Rayman Wiki - "Rayman" (http://rayman.wikia.com/wiki/Rayman)
Mirby
07-26-2010, 07:28 PM
How does one born? A bit of a grammatical error, methinks.
Also, ironic you mention that, when it seems like the next Rayman game explains that.
Darklink42
07-26-2010, 08:15 PM
Actually, it's not a grammatical error, it flows with the sentence. He's stating within the question that Rayman was born with no limbs.
"eh still thinks" is though. Still, happy birthday mascot project. Good article Polo.
Mirby
07-26-2010, 08:16 PM
I see that now. Eh, no matter.
Dafydd
07-26-2010, 10:37 PM
Haha, I'm a sucker for puns. Good job, mate.
Whatever the price Rayman must pay for his own freedom and others', at least it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Does "must" work as past-tense?
His distinct anatomy, combined with his heroic antics and personality, help him shine as Ubisoft's official mascot.
I'm not sure which is correct in English, but I feel "help" here refers to "his distinct anatomy", so it should be singular, "helps". I'm probably wrong, of course. I don't think I would have felt this way if you'd written "along with" instead of "combined with". When you combine something, it results in a single something, not several, I think. We've probably had this discussion before, but I don't remember what we ended up agreeing on.
Abadoss
07-26-2010, 11:05 PM
Does "must" work as past-tense?
The problem with "must" is not that the sentence is past tense (which it would work in), but that the sentence is in the wrong tense to begin with.
I'm not sure which is correct in English, but I feel "help" here refers to "his distinct anatomy", so it should be singular, "helps". I'm probably wrong, of course. I don't think I would have felt this way if you'd written "along with" instead of "combined with". When you combine something, it results in a single something, not several, I think. We've probably had this discussion before, but I don't remember what we ended up agreeing on.
In this particular case, you're right Dafydd. "Helps" is correct in both cases. "[...]Combined with his heroic antics and personality[...]" is seperate from the rest of the sentence. When dealing with the verb, treat it as though the extra information wasn't there.
Mirby
07-26-2010, 11:08 PM
Yep; when something is in between commas you can treat it as if you could remove it completely.
The problem with "must" is not that the sentence is past tense (which it would work in), but that the sentence is in the wrong tense to begin with.
I'm hinting at what Rayman does in the games from a present tense, like if the reader is following an instruction manual that lays out the current situation at the start (or in the middle) of whatever game is being talked about. I know a cursory reading would tell them "oh, he first defeated so-and-so and then did such-and-such in the end," but it would feel awkward if I suddenly ditched an otherwise consistent tense for another in the last line.
"Villains come. Good guys help him time and again. He attacks like this. His powers include the following. Whatever he must do, at least it isn't too much."
Make sense?
As for "helps" instead of "help," you're right that if I focused on just one aspect (Rayman's anatomy), it would be "helps." My intent was to note that the three aspects I bring up all contribute to his presence as a company mascot. I changed the wording in an effort to reflect this.
I do appreciate the feedback, guys. Thanks.
Dafydd
07-27-2010, 12:40 AM
Alright. Better now. Thanks!
Aaaaaand Rayman's been added to the Wiki, sans limbs.
All that remains is Tensei-San's Zephyr bio and Arek's Zidane bio (if indeed he claimed him). Could you adjust the thread title, Daf?
Dafydd
08-06-2010, 05:42 PM
For some reason, this thread didn't show up in my subscriptions, or I missed it. Will change thread title now.
The Derrit
09-07-2010, 01:08 AM
hey this is probably a bitch question but does anyone keep these updated with new games and such? i just happened to see a couple that weren't exactly exhaustive (ex: bomberman has been in plenty of other games outside the ones he's listed as)
it doesn't make a huge difference but completionism seems to be what you guys are going for.
If a mascot appears in a newly ReMixed game, then yes, we link to the game in the appropriate appearance list(s).
Bomberman was one of the first attempted bios written (http://ocremix.org/forums/showpost.php?p=63090&postcount=102) with an emphasis on a nearly full list. While that's a noble endeavor, it's not trim or practical enough for the casual reader. We introduce the mascots rather than give a complete history, so key titles/linked games would suffice in this manner. It's why we say Selected game appearances. ;-)
Zidane Tribal
"You don't need a reason to help people."
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Article by: Polo (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=11791)
Pictured from: Final Fantasy IX
Created by: Square (http://ocremix.org/org/123/square)
First appearance: 2000
Bio
Zidane Tribal is a consummate thief and the hero of Final Fantasy IX. Since infancy, he was raised by the Tantalus Theater Troupe, a traveling group of thieves who perform for audiences while surreptitiously swiping their goods. Zidane's repertoire is detailed further in battles: he can steal up to four items from the same target, detect what goods they have on them, and up his chances of acquiring rarities. When fighting, dual daggers and thief swords are his weapons of choice. He also has a distraction aptly named "What's That!?" that makes enemies turn around in confusion, allowing for back attacks.
Outside of battles and thievery missions, Zidane is as relaxed and easygoing as any confident individual. Being brought up in a cohesive family unit has its long-reaching advantages: aside from his streetwise skills, his heart has been forged by a sense of belonging, meaning new allies that feel out of place or unsure of themselves get support from their "big brother." Although normally flirtatious when it comes to women, Zidane grows to respect runaway Princess Garnet, whose athletic skills, self-appointed nickname after Zidane's trusty blade (Dagger), and basic obligation to the throne prove she's not just another skirt to chase. One of Zidane's in-battle skills, Protect Girls, can be seen as a reflection of his chivalry in the form of parrying blows meant for female party members. Taken as a whole, Zidane fits perfectly into his social network.
Or does he?
As the story of Final Fantasy IX unfolds, clues about Zidane's own origin come to the fore. Why does he see a blue light in his dreams? Why does it symbolize home? And how is this man named Kuja, the end boss of the game, related to our monkey-tailed hero? Zidane may be carefree, but his congenital desire to know where he came from — and the answers — may be the greatest challenge he faces yet.
Selected game appearances
=== PlayStation ===
Final Fantasy IX (http://ocremix.org/game/14/final-fantasy-ix-ps1) (2000)
References
Wikipedia - "Zidane Tribal" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zidane_Tribal)
Final Fantasy Insider - "Final Fantasy IX Characters" (http://www.ffinsider.net/final-fantasy-9/char.php)
Final Fantasy Wiki - "Zidane Tribal" (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zidane_Tribal)
Forget Me Not (http://zidane.peach-arrow.net/)
Dafydd
09-18-2010, 05:25 PM
The silly Swede would have preferred "Since infancy" to "Since he was an infant". Other than that, thanks for another job well done!
No prob Bob. "Since infancy" works better too. Thanks.
Uploaded.
Dafydd
09-19-2010, 03:45 PM
Great! Zephyr still isn't done yet, is he? I'll send Tensei-San a PM.
EDIT: PM sent.
I guess Tensei can't be bothered to finish Zephyr. (I PM'ed him twice myself with nary a reply.) I say we polish up the bio in his stead and get it over with. The following is an edit using the suggestions I felt worked best while keeping as close to his words as possible.
Zephyr
"Wisdom flies with the wind."
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_167.png
Article by: Joren de Bruin (Tensei-San (http://ocremix.org/forums/member.php?u=16286))
Pictured from: Heroes of Newerth
Created by: S2 Games (http://ocremix.org/org/2876/s2-games)
First appearance: 2010
Bio
Zephyr is one of 60+ playable heroes in the PC game Heroes of Newerth. While the game is based on a Warcraft III modification called "Defense of the Ancients" and borrows many ideas and elements from it, Zephyr is an original creation by S2 Games.
According to the in-game lore, Zephyr is part of the Beast Horde, a faction of anthropomorphic animals who have allied themselves with the Legion of humans to combat the nefarious Hellbourne faction and defend the land of Newerth. Zephyr does not have a lot of characterization, but he is described as a riddler, a sage, and a lover of sweets. In combat he is simply known as the warrior of the winds. Zephyr's design is based on the looks of real-life horned owls.
In-game, Zephyr utilizes his wind-based powers for both offense and defense, allowing him, for example, to blow his enemies into a desired direction, or use a wind shield to deflect blows and increase his movement speed. One skill involves him conjuring a huge typhoon that slows down and damages any enemies caught within, dealing more damage the closer they are to its center. His cyclones give him the ability to heal himself, and in addition, they help him gather gold in battle quicker than others. Because his offense and defense are quite balanced, Zephyr is fairly easy to learn for new players.
Zephyr enjoys considerable popularity among the Heroes of Newerth community due to his relatively goofy appearance, which made him the focal point of several forum memes. "Party-time Zephyr" depicts him surrounded by rainbows and disco balls, and a variation on "haters gonna hate" features the owl with a decidedly smug look on his face.
Selected game appearances
=== Windows ===
Heroes of Newerth (2010)
References
Heroes of Newerth - Heroes Database - "Zephyr" (http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroview.php?hid=31)
Heroes of Newerth Wiki - "Zephyr" (http://honwiki.net/wiki/Zephyr)
Dafydd
09-27-2010, 11:38 AM
Ntpx:
Completely original? Sounds like a tv commercial. Entirely original?
Legion of humans...? Legion of Humans?
Ultimate skill? Most powerful skill? Premier skill? Ultimate sounds like once you have this, you don't need any other. Help me find a better word here.
Isn't hard to learn -> Is fairly easy to learn?
Gather gold in battles or in battle?
http://ocremix.org/forums/images/avatars/games/blizzard/wc2o_peon.gif Zug zug! (Acting on your orders, sire/master/my liege.)
I suppose "an original" (creation) would suffice.
Human(s) is capitalized only when it's written as "Human Legion" (a prefix to describe the officially capitalized Legion). Elsewhere, lowercase wins the majority vote.
How about we say "one skill" to avoid future "yes it is/no it's not ultimate" remarks.
Fairly easy... sounds friendlier, so why not.
Since battles are common rather than random, sure, the lifestyle noun (battle) it shall be.
Dafydd
09-28-2010, 09:33 AM
Ok. Glad I could help :) You gon' get this uploaded?
I dun git it done, pardner. Yeehaw!
And thus the Mascot Bio Project returns to its eternal slumber... at least for now...
Darklink42
09-29-2010, 06:14 AM
We shall guard it well until next time we're needed.
Good job everybody.
Mirby
09-29-2010, 06:23 AM
Phaw, 'twas nothing.
Dafydd
09-29-2010, 07:45 AM
Great! See you next update, guys.
Hey, I didn't see the Peon there last time I looked. "Dar boo!"
djpretzel
01-09-2011, 01:29 AM
MINOR UPDATE - TWO NEW MASCOTS:
Fallout Boy
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_168.png
NiGHTS
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_169.png
Darklink42
01-09-2011, 01:31 AM
Dibs on the Vault-tech (Fallout) boy if no one else has a burning desire to do it.
Dafydd
01-09-2011, 12:51 PM
I claim neither.
KyleJCrb
01-09-2011, 03:00 PM
MINOR UPDATE - TWO NEW MASCOTS:
Fallout Boy
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_168.png
NiGHTS
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_169.png
Any chance of throwing some Kunio-Kun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunio-Kun) in there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kunio.jpg
Mirby
01-09-2011, 06:14 PM
I still think Axl or Django should be in there... I mean, both are good candidates (Axl from a well-known series, Django by a well-known game creator [Hideo Kojima] so...)
Anywho, I think Stevo should tackle the NiGHTS entry. :D
DiGi Valentine
01-10-2011, 05:48 AM
NiGHTS
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_169.png
How convenient. I think i mentioned my utter shock at the lack of a NiGHTS mascot to the OCR Twitter account only a week or two ago. What a fantastic turn around.
OverClocked Remix, baby! They give a shit about your shit :D
Dafydd
01-18-2011, 12:06 AM
Still waiting for someone to claim NiGHTS.
DiGi Valentine
01-18-2011, 12:54 AM
Actually, Level 99 has claimed NiGHTS. At least that's what i've been told anyway.
Mirby
01-18-2011, 04:41 AM
Anywho, I think Stevo should tackle the NiGHTS entry. :D
I don't know if this is what gave you the idea, but all I did was suggest it...
Level 99
01-18-2011, 04:44 AM
I'm writing NiGHTS. I'll be done sometime this week.
Dafydd
01-19-2011, 12:37 AM
Will you change your sig, too? Then it's all yours.
Level 99
01-19-2011, 02:53 AM
Will you change your sig, too? Then it's all yours.
Creepy dancing cat-Stevo is creepy, indeed. I'll change it...sometime...in the future.
Dafydd
01-19-2011, 07:59 AM
Creepy dancing cat-Stevo is beardy, indeed. I'll shave it...sometime...in the future.
I'll hold you to it. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that thing wasn't a cat to begin with...
Level 99
01-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Aight, I hope this is good enough. I used the character's name a lot to avoid as much confusion about gender as possible.
NiGHTS
"...have you ever thought about flying?"
http://ocremix.org/images/template/ocr_mascot_169.png
Article by: Level 99 (http://ocremix.org/artist/5420/level-99)
Pictured from: NiGHTS into Dreams...
Created by: Sega
(http://www.sega.com/) First appearance: 1996
Bio
Anything is possible in dreams. NiGHTS is a resident of the dream world Nightopia, where it spends time playfully flying through the air, performing acrobatics, and playing an invisible flute. When some of the children of Twin Seeds go to sleep and slip into nightmares, they escape into the world of Nightopia and find NiGHTS for the first time.
Originally a creation of the ruler of realm of Nightmare, Wizeman, NiGHTS is a 1st Level Nightmaren. NiGHTS rebelled against Wizeman after he tried to take over Nightopia, and was imprisoned inside the Ideya Palace as a result. Upon dualizing with dreamers who come into contact with NiGHTS, it breaks free and regains the ability to fly and perform tricks. With the help of these dreamers, NiGHTS fights against Wizeman and his henchmen for the freedom of Nightopia.
NiGHTS is a genderless being who's appearance and abilities can change depending on a given situation, such as a bobsled in a snow area and a dolphin when underwater. While usually kind and chivalrous, NiGHTS is also a bit of a prankster, playing jokes and scaring people. NiGHTS also has a complicated relationship with the other 1st Level Nightmaren, Reala, who's abilities are nearly identical to NiGHTS. While NiGHTS is curious and playful, Reala is cold and obedient, never questioning Wizeman's orders to imprison NiGHTS and capture Nightopia.
Will NiGHTS be able to stop Wizeman from taking over the dream world?
Selected game appearances
=== Saturn ===
NiGHTS Into Dreams... (http://ocremix.org/game/136/nights-into-dreams-sat) (1996)
Christmas NiGHTS: Into Dreams... (http://ocremix.org/game/159/christmas-nights-into-dreams-sat) (1996)
=== Game Boy Advance ===
Sonic Pinball Party (2003)
=== Playstation 2 ===
Sega Superstars (2004)
Sonic Riders (2006)
NiGHTS: Into Dreams... (JP) (2008)
Sega Superstars Tennis (2008)
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity (2008)
Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing (2010)
=== Wii ===
NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams... (2007)
References
Wikipedia - "Nights (character)" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nights_%28character%29)
Wikipedia - "Nights into Dreams..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NiGHTS_into_Dreams)
Wikipedia - "Nights: Journey of Dreams" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nights:_Journey_of_Dreams)
NiGHTS: Into Dreams instruction manual
NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams instruction manual
NiGHTSintoDreams.com - "Bio: NiGHTS" (http://www.nightsintodreams.com/?p=352)
DiGi Valentine
01-24-2011, 07:46 PM
I'll have a chat with you about this Stevo but there's a few things that need changing, couple of tid bits that have been mis-explained.
Aside from that, very good.
Dafydd
01-24-2011, 08:48 PM
There's a few issues with genitives/possessives and apostrophes, but my main gripe is with how confusing this was to read.
Originally a creation of the ruler of realm of Nightmare, Wizeman, NiGHTS is a 1st Level Nightmaren.
Nightmare, Wizeman, NiGHTS. :whatevaa: Took me 5 reads to get this sentence. I'm trying to figure out a better one that says the same thing.
NiGHTS is a genderless being who's appearance and abilities can change depending on a given situation, such as a bobsled in a snow area and a dolphin when underwater. This sentence sounds wrong. How about something like
NiGHTS is a genderless being whose appearance and abilities can change depending on the situation, such as into a bobsled in a snow area or into a dolphin when underwater.?
And what's "Twin Seeds"? Earth? Some alternate universe?
Finally, the list of "Selected game appearances" looks more like a complete list to me. It would be better to mention somewhere in the bio that besides being the main character of the NiGHTS series, he/she/it is also playable in several other SEGA (party type of game) titles, though I'm not sure how to word that in a good way.
Sorry if I come off as too harsh. I blame the confusion. :wink:
NiGHTS into Feedback...
- The mascot image is actually from Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity.
- "some of the children of Twin Seeds" --> This would read better as "some children of the city of Twin Seeds" 1) to clarify what Twin Seeds is and 2) because the first "of the" is kinda unnecessary.
- "find NiGHTS for the first time" --> Find or meet?
- "the ruler of realm of Nightmare" --> "the ruler of the realm of Nightmare"
- Yeah, the names Nightmare, Wizeman, and NiGHTS should be separated to avoid confusion, like: "NiGHTS is a 1st Level Nightmaren, originally a creation of..." or: "Wizeman, the ruler of the realm of Nightmare, originally created NiGHTS as..."
- "NiGHTS rebelled against Wizeman after he tried to take over Nightopia, and was imprisoned inside the Ideya Palace as a result." --> For better flow, either cut the comma or put "and as a result was imprisoned..." after it.
- It might help if you briefly explained what "dualizing" is to readers left scratching their heads (touching hands and emitting light? That it?).
- "a genderless being who's appearance" --> Dafydd's right that it should be whose, not who's (possessive).
- "NiGHTS also has a complicated relationship" --> You can cut "also" so you don't repeat it so soon after the previous sentence.
- "Reala, who's abilities" --> also should be whose
- If you want to cut the number of times the name NiGHTS appears in the bio (13), try replacing some instances with "the jester" or "the genderless one" or "the Nightopian" or whatever. You can be creative here, especially in the 3rd paragraph.
- Some of the NiGHTS titles in the appearance list and elsewhere threw me off regarding capitalization and punctuation; I thought Christmas NiGHTS into Dreams... didn't need a colon and "into" should be lowercase (that's how OCR lists the two linked NiGHTS titles). And I'm pretty sure Journey of Dreams doesn't include an ellipsis.
- Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing wasn't released for the PS2; you can move it under Wii (and change the "and" in the title to "&").
Good job introducing the character as opposed to trying to say everything there is about him/her/it. That's what mascot bios should do. For now, just keep spraying Windex on those dirty parts and we'll take another look at it.
Dafydd
01-25-2011, 10:12 AM
Thanks, Polo. And yeah, Stevo, you did a good job with the overall structure, for which I forgot to commend you.
DiGi Valentine
01-25-2011, 07:17 PM
Major thing, which i've already noted to Stevo in an email, is the fact there is a big difference between the term 'genderless' and 'androgynous'.
Genderless implies that the character is of neither gender where as Androgynous applies to both. NiGHTS falls under the androgynous title because Sonic Team as well as Yuji Naka have stated many times in the past that they have designed NiGHTS to be androgynous so the player (or dreamer dreaming of NiGHTS) see's NiGHTS in whatever gender they choose. It was a design feature Naka wanted the character to have so it could be accessible from a boy or girls perspective. Genderless would defeat this design feature by saying NiGHTS has NO gender at all, ever. It's a common mistake people usually use when speaking about NiGHTS.
My idea would be to have the aspect surrounding a dreamers choice on NiGHTS' gender to be explained at an earlier point in the bio and then merely refering to NiGHTS as 'he' for the remainder of bio. For such characters with rare design aspects like this, it's extremely hard to find a decent way of explaining things without it becoming cluttered so opting for simply refering to NiGHTS as 'he' i feel should be allowed to slide. Sonic Team themselves and everyone at SEGA refer to NiGHTS as 'he' for the ease of conversation but the fact still remains that the choice belongs to the person viewing NiGHTS.
So, my two main things with this is just changing genderless to androgynous
and then further explaining why NiGHTS has this aspect so people are clued in to the whole gender thing right at the beginning of the bio.
Aside from that, i love the explanation surrounding Reala and i am also pleased to see NiGHTS' abilities of shape shifting and morphing have also been mentioned as they usually tend to get overlooked a bit.
-edit-
Also, whoops! I totally overlooked that the image is actually from Zero Gravity. I hardly played that game so i forgot he had his new costume design in that one. It's definitely his Journey of Dreams outfit though, the gloves are the biggest giveaway as he didn't wear gloves in NiGHTS into Dreams.
Dafydd
01-25-2011, 11:40 PM
Thanks for sorting that out. I'm not sure about referring to NiGHTS as "he", though it certainly would be very practical. English and its pronouns were obviously based on a world where living things were always either male or female.
Liontamer
01-28-2011, 09:56 PM
Who's got my homey, Vault Boy?
Darklink42
01-28-2011, 10:56 PM
Who's got my homey, Vault Boy?
I do. I'm working up the final edits to the rough draft right now. Should have it done by tonight or tomorrow and it shall be posted here for review, as usual.
Edit: definitely going to be tomorrow. I've got to find a good quote, and do the formatting, but the main text (rough as it is) is ready to go. I'm mostly debating right now whether I should include more about the Fallout universe proper, or try to dig up some more info on the Vault Boy. I will say though, that the research for this one has been pretty interesting. I've learned quite a bit that I didn't pick up from playing 3 and New Vegas.
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