World of Warcraft

[Arek the Absolute]

fuck that
reroll hakkar alliance
i dont mind givin ya 20 g to start out with
dunns is my name homie

[xinster]

[quote=suzumebachi]1) is cosmos still the de-facto UI mod? if not, what else is good, and where can i get it?

Nobody uses Cosmos anymore. It's outdated. Blizzard added just about everything Cosmos had quite awhile ago, and since then Cosmos pretty much stopped updating. The main UI people use now, from what I've seen, is Titan Bar. Personally, I don't like it a whole lot, but I've heard a lot of really good things about it.

You can find it here (http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=860).


fuck that, get ctmod.

if u dont get a good interface youll have a much less chance of getting addicted, cause youll be getting your ass kicked by guys like me who, although have shitty gear, have borderline hacker interfaces.

[Stalwart Jester]

1) is cosmos still the de-facto UI mod? if not, what else is good, and where can i get it?

Cosmos went down the tubes ages ago.

I suggest CTmod, or the Insomniax Compiliation. Get Titanbar too, because it's nice.

BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET CT-RAIDASSIST. I AM 100% FREAKING SERIOUS. Even if you don't get the full CTmod suite, CTRA is a fucking must.

[suzumebachi]

i used to just use cosmos + CTmod. seemed to work pretty well (i loveeeeeeeeee the cosmos popbar D:)

what's so awesome about titanbar and insomniax?

[The Author]

They are still compatible with the game.

And Insomniax was iffy too for a while...

[suzumebachi]

uhh.. as far as i know cosmos is still compatible.

[The Author]

Either way, I realized when I was still playing that by having compilations, I ended up with 25 different mods I did not want. My main was a rogue, so all the caster related mods weren't used at all. CT raid assist is good, and I enjoyed Nurfed HUD, the rest however, is tailored to a specific set of needs.

[OA]

I love the nurfed UI. I skipped out on the whole cosmos deal because it just seemed kindof flimsy, but nurfed I love.

http://oceansend.com/5502/wow/1.jpg

[Arek the Absolute]

DECURSIVE FTW
That is the only UI I ever use.

[The Author]

You should see my friend with her priest, she could almost bind her left click to one macro/mod and the right click to the another, and she would be instance ready.

She no longer takes any counscious decision when she plays, it's only the macros that do the job.

Another reason why I quit. We were talking about DPS (a couple of rogues) and one said "get this mod (some energy managing thing), I increased my DPS by 5 with it."

Ya know, you are running mods in a game so that the game almost plays by itself. I wish WoW was not moddable.

[zircon]

You should see my friend with her priest, she could almost bind her left click to one macro/mod and the right click to the another, and she would be instance ready.

She no longer takes any counscious decision when she plays, it's only the macros that do the job.

Another reason why I quit. We were talking about DPS (a couple of rogues) and one said "get this mod (some energy managing thing), I increased my DPS by 5 with it."

Ya know, you are running mods in a game so that the game almost plays by itself. I wish WoW was not moddable.

Unfortunately mods can't make you a better PVPer, or better at high end raid content. There are decisions that HAVE to be made by a human.

[Nat]

christmas? holy shit.. last i heard it was supposed to be out like late spring early summer.


well we have 2 more patches pre expansion and with about 3 months per patch with 1.10 just coming out a couple of weeks ago...yeah expansion should come out around christmas/early jan.

[The Author]

You should see my friend with her priest, she could almost bind her left click to one macro/mod and the right click to the another, and she would be instance ready.

She no longer takes any counscious decision when she plays, it's only the macros that do the job.

Another reason why I quit. We were talking about DPS (a couple of rogues) and one said "get this mod (some energy managing thing), I increased my DPS by 5 with it."

Ya know, you are running mods in a game so that the game almost plays by itself. I wish WoW was not moddable.

Unfortunately mods can't make you a better PVPer, or better at high end raid content. There are decisions that HAVE to be made by a human.

Not in most of the guilds I have seen.

Taking decisions often mean "not following the walkthrough linked 25 times on the forum." I have seriously seen some guild leaders complain about someone making decisions during a battle... There is a plan and we must follow it. If we die, we are not following it enough.

These macros are more often than not used in high end PVE gaming to be sure that no one makes the wrong decision. The leaders say which macros you need and which settings you should have.

[zircon]

You should see my friend with her priest, she could almost bind her left click to one macro/mod and the right click to the another, and she would be instance ready.

She no longer takes any counscious decision when she plays, it's only the macros that do the job.

Another reason why I quit. We were talking about DPS (a couple of rogues) and one said "get this mod (some energy managing thing), I increased my DPS by 5 with it."

Ya know, you are running mods in a game so that the game almost plays by itself. I wish WoW was not moddable.

Unfortunately mods can't make you a better PVPer, or better at high end raid content. There are decisions that HAVE to be made by a human.

Not in most of the guilds I have seen.

Taking decisions often mean "not following the walkthrough linked 25 times on the forum." I have seriously seen some guild leaders complain about someone making decisions during a battle... There is a plan and we must follow it. If we die, we are not following it enough.

These macros are more often than not used in high end PVE gaming to be sure that no one makes the wrong decision. The leaders say which macros you need and which settings you should have.

You're talking to someone who does MC, BWL, AQ40, and outdoor encounters. I know the endgame. Macros cannot win difficult battles. You need to be able to adapt in the middle of a fight; that's how the hard encounters work.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

WELL! My server's down for now, so yeah...

Might as well engage in some household cleaning...

[OA]

The guilds that rely on, and worse, force macros on their members are the ones who are always months behind, not to mention in a somewhat poisoned environment.

I've yet to encounter a guild of this type on my server, but there are a few that regulate specs.

If your guild doesnt trust you, why would you even want to be in the guild? There are so many MC/BWL groups that it's not really an issue to get into a different one.

[Nick Hyral]

The problem with WoW anymore is people make it a way of living. You now have farmers that ruin the economy.(Come on.. low end rares costing 180 gold) Not to mention your pvp whores who mod like mad.. I've seen players that the only thing they do is run and jump around in combat as their programs read off commands and use the skills it finds appropriate, he just uses his other UI's to swap equipment as he sees fit while the UI does the rest.

I'm a 30 rogue on Alexstreza and my guild doesn't care one way or another either. I was first full combat dual sword, and then I've switched to dagger and sword.. then full sword.. and at 20 I was a full assassination build. Yet they didn't roll their eyes at me and complain. Seeing modders anymore makes me want to quit the game entirely.. especially after running Deadmines with a priest who was just running UI's set it on auto follow and went to get himself something to eat.

[zircon]

Yeah, my guild's really cool about stuff. My mage is 31 arcane/12 fire/8 frost. I specced just enough into frost to be somewhat useful when I need it, like the shortened casting and +critical damage. My guild doesn't mind if I'm fire; hell, I've still got Arcane Missiles, eh? We've also got a feral druid in the guild, and she even picks up on some of the tanking sometimes. Some of our priests are/were shadow, and our main tank went arms/fury for a whole week just for fun.

The only thing they really encourage is having CT Raid, and that's not -necessarily- a requirement; it's just a "you should really have this, because it really, really, REALLY helps" sort of situation.

It's funny how guilds try to copy other guilds when they do their own runs; the same strategies don't necessarily work with different people.

Haha.. lemme just tell you a couple things real quick about unusual specs ;)

1. When I was specced shadow with about MC level gear, I topped the damage meters. Shadow priests own.. HARD.

2. There's a guild on my server that has a Feral druid tank the Broodlord in Blackwing Lair, one of the more difficult bosses in the game.

3. All warriors in my guild save one (who is only the tertiary main tank) are Arms/Fury/Prot, all the way down to 31 in Arms. I'm on a PVP server so almost all warriors are specced this way.

[Rodin]

1.10 has made all the players on my server scared shitless of the new 5-man instances. I'm a level 57-priest - and I can't get anyone to take me to the end-game instances.

Never mind that I can SHOW them all the various pieces of the Tier 0 sets that I'm wearing from the few instance runs that I have done post-patch. Never mind that I first sucessfully ran UD Strat at level 53.

If you're not 60, you're not going to those instances, unless you get a group together that is actually smart. Players in WoW are such cowards, I swear.

I wouldn't care about being told "You can't go to Scholo" if I hadn't run Scholo last night without wiping once.

[suzumebachi]

1.10 has made all the players on my server scared shitless of the new 5-man instances. I'm a level 57-priest - and I can't get anyone to take me to the end-game instances.

Never mind that I can SHOW them all the various pieces of the Tier 0 sets that I'm wearing from the few instance runs that I have done post-patch. Never mind that I first sucessfully ran UD Strat at level 53.

If you're not 60, you're not going to those instances, unless you get a group together that is actually smart. Players in WoW are such cowards, I swear.

I wouldn't care about being told "You can't go to Scholo" if I hadn't run Scholo last night without wiping once.

did they make the instances harder or something? i started doing UBRS/Scholo/Strat at like lvl 55...

[Rodin]

What they did to the instances was reduce the number of mobs in them and made them 5-man only. So, all the players that completely REFUSED to run these 5-man instances without 10 people are now refusing to take anyone under level 60 on their instance runs.

[Leon K.]

Arek your name is Dunns on Hakkar?


Look me up, names Einalem.

We may have run into each other.

[Joshea]

haha just for those who haven't already seen this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-warrior&T=915419&P=1

[Space Lion]

My current profile (http://ctprofiles.net/8554)

[Solid Krono]

haha just for those who haven't already seen this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-warrior&T=915419&P=1

:lol:

[mecca]

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7499/ss05523of.jpg

[Raenok]

^ I seriously thought he was a Troll for a while.

Anyways, I am officialy out of The League of Fabulous Ninjas, and into the Legion of Discord. Same as as the former, but they have a rule about cursing. Mainly because the leader of the group (it spans across multiple servers and games, apparently) is an uber-Christian (despite the guild's demonic-sounding name). Our ACTUAL guild leader is a pretty nice guy, and he despises excessive PC as much as I do.

[SilentHinata]

I've got 6 level 60's.

[SleazyC]

Yeah, my guild's really cool about stuff. My mage is 31 arcane/12 fire/8 frost. I specced just enough into frost to be somewhat useful when I need it, like the shortened casting and +critical damage. My guild doesn't mind if I'm fire; hell, I've still got Arcane Missiles, eh? We've also got a feral druid in the guild, and she even picks up on some of the tanking sometimes. Some of our priests are/were shadow, and our main tank went arms/fury for a whole week just for fun.

The only thing they really encourage is having CT Raid, and that's not -necessarily- a requirement; it's just a "you should really have this, because it really, really, REALLY helps" sort of situation.

It's funny how guilds try to copy other guilds when they do their own runs; the same strategies don't necessarily work with different people.
It is a fact that forcing a certain spec isn't necessary for raiding but no one can deny that it doesn't help. When you are learning encounters having every single tool at your disposal to help you down X boss makes a difference. Granted if you aren't racing to down a boss then it really doesn't matter or if you just have a guild group of knowledgable and highly competative individuals then I'd say spec doesn't matter

[SilentHinata]

many specs are required for a good reason.

adding debuffs, subtracting debuffs, aggro problems, etc. etc.

[SilentHinata]

Anyone interested in trading account?

Like I said, I've got a handful of 60's () and then a few high level characters.


am looking to trade my account. here is what is on it.

60 Warlock

Has 7/8 Felheart (Tier 1 Set)
2/8 Nemesis
Has Imp for Epic Quest
Great rep with all BG's and factions
Bank loaded with nexus shards and items that can be sold for $$$
Unguilded on a PvP server with a high population and lots of guilds recruiting locks for end-game. Or just own in BG's like I do.
Currently Rank 5



60 Priest
Has 3/8 Prophecy
Vestements of Shifting Sands (AQ epic) Glowing Brightwood Staff with +22 Intellect, Epic Mount, Portals Deck Trinket (epic)
HUNDREDS of gold worth of stuff in bank, stacks and stacks of thorium.
Has epic bug mount from AQ EXTREMELY rare.
Currently rank 7, shadow with my gear and spec I am top of the charts every game in KB's, and this is againts rank 13 warriors and mages. Use silence and fear right and the only class that you will have trouble with on this character is a warlock if they resist too much.
In a low-level guild with a funny name since I've been just PvPing. Get into any guild on the server running end-game though since you are a priest.
PvP server.

60 Warrior
1 Piece of Valor, 300 Alchemist, 300 herbalist, 251 fisher (catch a ton of stonescale eels, this took forever) 150+ cooking. TONS of stonescales and rare herbs in bank.
PvP server.

60 Priest
Unguilded on a PvP server, 300 tailor, 297 enchanter. Has 5 or 6 Devout, has been a while since played. Server is old and established so it would be easy to get geared.

56 Hunter
300 skinner, 280 or so tailor. Server is only a few months old, but many guilds are clearing MC and going into BWL (too easy now :p ) Has materials for two Dawn's Edges and lots of rugged leather and rare goodies on him.
In a one-person guild for humurous purposes (funny name) till I hit 60 and went raiding guild hunting.
PvP server.

49 Mage
280+ engineer, has good gear, couple hundred gold on her, all rested. Stay in bracket to PvP or level to 60 and start owning. I had a 60 Rogue on the same server, but I deleted him to roll on the other faction (stupid, I know)
PvP server.

43 Shaman
First character. Was on a PvE server, not my cup of tea.

26 Rogue
Twinked out with some amazing gear, I'm not even 29 and I own warriors with crusader in that bracket.







****HERE IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR****

A hunter is my highest priority. Rogue second, but considering all the stuff you are getting I would prolly expect either some alts or some money to make up for it.

Post here or e-mail me at JesusChristMD@gmail.com

[cobaltstarfire]

... Not to mention your pvp whores who mod like mad.. I've seen players that the only thing they do is run and jump around in combat as their programs read off commands and use the skills it finds appropriate, he just uses his other UI's to swap equipment as he sees fit while the UI does the rest...


These mods he's supposidly useing should no longer work after patch 1.10, they made it so that only the default UI is allowed to use "hooks" in its code. Also, even before 1.10 they were illegal and a bannable offence.

If these players have mods that allow them to play without giveing any real input to the game they might as well be botting and I have heard and seen people have their account terminated for much smaller offences.

[SilentHinata]

... Not to mention your pvp whores who mod like mad.. I've seen players that the only thing they do is run and jump around in combat as their programs read off commands and use the skills it finds appropriate, he just uses his other UI's to swap equipment as he sees fit while the UI does the rest...


These mods he's supposidly useing should no longer work after patch 1.10, they made it so that only the default UI is allowed to use "hooks" in its code. Also, even before 1.10 they were illegal and a bannable offence.

If these players have mods that allow them to play without giveing any real input to the game they might as well be botting and I have heard and seen people have their account terminated for much smaller offences.


Watch Ming on LB.

He honestly doesn't do anything but move and thats just foward and backward. all the turning and everything else is done for him.

And he is still doing it.

[cobaltstarfire]

Watch Ming on LB.

He honestly doesn't do anything but move and thats just foward and backward. all the turning and everything else is done for him.

And he is still doing it.

I beleive you, I'm saying it's illegal and if you report him for it enough they will eventualy look into it and terminate his account.

It's the same with anything else, lots of farmers get whiped out simply because people report them enough, sure a new crop of farmers/exploiters show up within a few days, but Blizzard actualy does investigate people that cheat in the game and take action for it despite all the whineing and bitching you see people doing.

[suzumebachi]

agh. i'm disappointed. i rerolled a pally. D:

being used to playing horde, i found it impossible to get into the alliance groove. IMPOSSIBLE. alliance folks are far into doing their own little things and ignoring everything and everyone else. priests won't buff you, even if you buff them first. hell half the time they won't even buff themselves. and forget getting anyone to help you on a quest, the best you'll get is "HAHA LOL NOOB". and to top it all off, i was told by like 10 different people when asking if pallies had any way to pull stuff to "shut up" and be the "buff bot" i'm meant to be. nice.

i'm going back to horde. hopefully on a well established, balanced server. where should i reroll this time guys? (looking for a PvP server in either mountain or pacific time)

[zircon]

You can play with me on Gorefiend. I'm in a really cool guild where I'm an officer; it's been around for about a year now, we do all sorts of content, and we have a <60 division too.

[suzumebachi]

do you guys do a lot of AV? Smolderthorn was great for PvE (especially once Transcendance, Exo, Nightmare's Asylum and company came over) but was pretty lacking on the PvP side. AV pretty much only happened on AV holidays, and even then only once or twice. Otherwise there was no such thing as a pickup BG except on AB holidays.

[zircon]

AVs are usually going all day starting at 10AM EST. By prime time you can expect 2 AVs. On holidays there are way more. Both AB and WSG run all day, pretty much; as Horde, we bitch if the queue time is more than 3 minutes. Most times you get in almost instantly. 5-7 instances of AB and 2-3 of WSG is not uncommon in prime time, and on holidays you see sometimes 10 or more of the holiday instance (AV aside).

Gorefiend is a very competitive server overall; it's lots of fun. For example there is a Horde guild called "No Quarter" EXCLUSIVELY devoted to PVP. They basically don't PVE at all. Once in awhile they *might* run a 20 man but that's it. All of their members are geared out in basically pure PVP gear and despite the fact that some alliance guilds like SiNister and excessive are deep into AQ, NQ is so good at PVP that they often win against guilds with far better gear. Also there are usually at least a handful of Horde grinding to rank 14 at any given time (I know 3 people who are offhand) and even more going to rank 12-13. These people will often form all-day pickup BG groups so they can get fast honor.

[suzumebachi]

awesome. i know where i'm going then.

Smolderthorn wasn't entirely devoid of PvP (there were a few rank 14's) it just lacked the overall population to support it :/

[Phoenix Down]

If and when I get WoW reinstalled and stuff, I'll probably be playing on one of the free fan based servers considering I can't exactly afford the $15 a month to maintain the normal and regular servers of WoW. I used to play on Shadowsong. My regular character was a leather/skinner Craftsmen known as Lhrayven who is a Nightelf with a black nightstalker known as Ebony as her only companion. I'll keep people posted as to when I will get back on and on which specific free-server as well. It would be nice to play with some reliable people. And hopefully people around the same level as me who can help me out with some of my quests. *groans remembering some of her old quests*

[cobaltstarfire]

Sargeras is a good pvp server, it's not as balanced as it once was, but the alliance don't outnumber us horribly. It'd be nice if Horde got more players though, and horde side is fairly friendly/drama free. (Unlike the alliance side).

PVP is strong, and all bg's I've played in can go either way now. (At one point horde reined surpreme, then all our "big" guilds transfered off.) I prefer it going either way myself just cause it means theres some meaning to playing the game.

There is plenty of world pvp.

PVE wise most guilds are playing catch up because all the big ones left in our transfer. We currently have 2 guilds hordeside that can kill nef, and several on their way.

There are many large and small guilds with onyxia on farm status mc up to rag and downing him.

If you want a leveling buddy I'd be willing to possibly roll something with ya...I guess a priest or actualy level my 5 rogue....

[Phoenix Down]

If I could I'd like to play a bloodelf instead of a Darkelf. If I do eventually play horde again, I think instead of undead I'll play as Tauren or Troll. Troll's, if I remember right, don't care so much about nature as do the Tauren's so I might just picked Tauren based also upon that particular position they have in the horde. But I know I'll be starting with alliance and most likely I will play as Nightelf, unless I get the update for bloodelves.

What exactly is the difference between the PvE server and the PvP? I know what PvP stands for, but PvE I'm fairly foggy on. I've never been much of a PvP player, namely because I would hate to think about being killed while I am a low level trying to do my quests and having to run back to my corpse everytime a jack-ass kills me. Is it like that so much? Or is it a bit different from my conceptions?

[cobaltstarfire]

PVP isn't that bad, there's three types of areas on a pvp server, friendly, contested, and enemy. In friendly territory someone of the other faction can't attack you unless you're flagged for pvp. In contested territory you're automaticly flagged and anyone can attack you (and you can attack anyone.) And in enemy territory you can't attack anyone unless they are flagged for pvp. It's not really that bad, yeah there is occasional ganking, but if you're an alert and good player it won't happen that often. (It's always fun to kill people that are trying to gank you :twisted: )

On a PVE realm all territory is pretty much friendly and the other faction can't attack you unless you're flagged for pvp. (PVE means player vs environment). If you don't want to worry about being ganked on occasion play on a pve server and never type /pvp.

[The Xyco]

What exactly is the difference between the PvE server and the PvP? I know what PvP stands for, but PvE I'm fairly foggy on. I've never been much of a PvP player, namely because I would hate to think about being killed while I am a low level trying to do my quests and having to run back to my corpse everytime a jack-ass kills me. Is it like that so much? Or is it a bit different from my conceptions?

It's quite different.

The only system difference between a PvE and PvP server is that you are always PvP-enabled in contested territory on a PvP server. While in friendly territory (which accounts all the newbie zones up to level 20 or so) you're PvP tag will be disabled, although you have the option to enable it and disable it at will. However, in enemy territory, you will be PvP-enable while the opposite faction will not be, which allows them to attack you at will. The same goes for enemies in friendly territory.

Naturally, you won't see a difference between a PvE and PvP server until around level 20, and even then, the contested areas you'll be fighting in (Wetlands, for example) generally won't have very many players of the opposite faction running around killing everyone.

The real differences start to manifest themselves around level 30, where you'll be leveling in zones where Alliance and Horde flightpaths and towns that are in relatively close proximity to each other (Arathi Highlands, for example), OR zones with neutral cities where both factions have direct paths to (Booty Bay in Stranglethorn Vale initially, and later on Gadgetzan in Tanaris).

From what I've heard, most players that moved from PvE to PvP thought that PvE was boring and lacked confrontation... almost as if there was no need for there to be two factions.

I only played up to level 12 on a PvE server before my friend convinced to join PvP. Being on a PvP server feels more of a liability than it does an actual conflict. On a PvP server, you've got to accept the fact that you WILL be ganked by players much higher level than you, and it WILL be frustrating at times.

However, it also makes the game feel more exciting. It's one thing to be running from an angry raptor in STV, but it's a completely different feeling when there are 2 or 3 horde players chasing you down the road. I distinctly remember my early days in STV, and how scary the place was with a flightpath directly from Orgrimmar being so close.

I'd also like to add that being on PvP server makes grouping much more fun. Like I said before, it's one thing to group together to kill an elite quest mob, it's another thing to group together because there's horde lurking nearby...

[suzumebachi]

bwahaha or 1 lvl 60 tauren hunter chasing down 2 or 3 lvl 40 allies :twisted:

i can't stand PvE servers. there's no fear of the unknown. just mobs. and when you're in an area filled with mobs around your level, there's pretty much no fear at all (with the exception of stray elementals, but those are few, far between, and only in specific areas).

on a PvP realm you never know what to expect. you don't know if around that next corner is a shammy willing to help you, or an alliance raid waiting to kill your retarded ass.

plus on PvP realms when you're waiting for BGs to start or waiting for an instance or whatever there's always things to do. like ganking people. funtimes. go park yourself outside of some low-level instance and kill anybody you deem unworthy. it's cruel, i know, but it's all fair game. especially when you recall all the times you got ganked when you were levelling up. or if you're not the cold-blooded killer type, you can even help lowbies of the opposite faction. i tell you that gets 'em even more on edge than anything. half of them is glad you're helping, the other half is scared shitless at what your next move might be. or or or another fun trick is when you come across a group of enemies, kill all of them but 1. wave at the 1 and leave. then come back and do it again. repeatedly. keep the same 1 alive every time. psychological warfare man.

end rant.

edit: i was watching my brother play earlier, and i noticed the dredge strikers in silithus no longer send you flying 300ft when they charge you. disappointing :(

[zircon]

Also there's something to be said for being on a server where saying someone's name inspires fear into the opposing faction. There are times in the BGs where your average horde pug will see a single name on the opposing list, pee their pants, and AFK out. My guild is a guild that inspires terror into Alliance teams - even the very best. And that's a GREAT feeling.

[Phoenix Down]

Wow, thanks for all the info guys. Yeah, I remember the times I ran into horde. There was this one time I was on my way to a quest and this, I believe it was a Tauren, was within the area I was and I was like, "Oh shit, oh shit, please don't kill me". *laughs* I decided to wave at the Tauren when he saw me and he waved right back, I tell you I thought that was pretty damn awesome. They can give us a language barrier, but actions like that are just plain cool, especially if they are friendly and just leave you alone to do whatever it is you are trying to get done.

As I said, thanks for the info and I don't know if I will wind up on a PvP server because I'd like to be on one of those servers where they increased the EXP you receive from monsters, so...I don't know how many of those are PvP vs. PvE.
PvP probably would be a better experience considering you never know what could happen and that is just half the fun of it, unlike witht he PvE servers.

[xinster]

fuck battlegrounds and the stupid honor system. All bg did was breed honor whores and make open world pvp extinct.

[zircon]

I still have TONS of fun in BGs. As long as you don't turn it into a grind, then you can have fun with it. I pull 75-125k a week - nothing special - but I have a blast.

[xinster]

I still have TONS of fun in BGs. As long as you don't turn it into a grind, then you can have fun with it. I pull 75-125k a week - nothing special - but I have a blast.

I'm on one of the oldest servers, bleeding hollow. Sure, i get my kicks on bg once in a while, even without my epic mount, but the power disparity between someone whos been 60 for 3 months and someone whos been 60 for 7 months is just humongous.

there was a video of a guy frostbolt critting for 5k...obviously under very limited circumstances, but he's likely critting regularly for 3k, the trinkets are nerfed, but not THAT nerfed.


The pursuit of advancement is what makes this game so successful, unfortunately the power disparity that results is enormous. Meh, there's plenty of ways to have fun with this game anyway.

[suzumebachi]

On Smolderthorn there were a few groups that would cause the other side to pretty much AFK on the spot. Alliance had Transcendance, Exo, and the KiSS "All-Stars". Trans and Exo weren't the best PvPers but they were geared like f'ing crazy. KiSS all-stars on the other hand was quite skilled. Horde had Nightmare's Asylum. 'nuff said. Horde also had Marverick and Crondizzle who were both High Warlord in their time and either one of them (let alone when you get the two of them together) were capable of carrying an entire BG in their favor.

Anyways I'm about to go roll on Gorefiend Horde. Dunno what I'm gonna make though...

You know what would be cool (but unlikely)? If we all rolled on the same server (like the next time a new PvP server opens up or smth). :(

[zircon]

On Smolderthorn there were a few groups that would cause the other side to pretty much AFK on the spot. Alliance had Transcendance, Exo, and the KiSS "All-Stars". Trans and Exo weren't the best PvPers but they were geared like f'ing crazy. KiSS all-stars on the other hand was quite skilled. Horde had Nightmare's Asylum. 'nuff said. Horde also had Marverick and Crondizzle who were both High Warlord in their time and either one of them (let alone when you get the two of them together) were capable of carrying an entire BG in their favor.

Anyways I'm about to go roll on Gorefiend Horde. Dunno what I'm gonna make though...

You know what would be cool (but unlikely)? If we all rolled on the same server (like the next time a new PvP server opens up or smth). :(

If you're interested in joining my guild, we're low on Hunters and Druids more than anything else. We're completely full on Rogues, satisfied with Warlocks, and have a decent Priest rotation. Shamans can fluctuate but we're not overpopulated on them, same with Mages.

If you're into PVP, we have basically 1 Priest that PVPs - me. No Druids, hardly any Shamans, very few Hunters/Warlocks. Tons of Warriors, Rogues, and Mages though ;)

[Hydro]

I've been playing on Daggerspine since I started. I recently re-activated my account and rolled a new troll mage. I could never play one class for too long, and I had a 29 tauren warrior, a 25 orc hunter, and a 24 tauren shaman. Amongst various others 20 and below. Im hoping to make this new guy my main.

I know a guy who said that you can make 60 in a few days if you play hardcore and know exactly what you're doing, but I dont believe him.

an OCR guild would be kinda cool. But I dont think too many of us on ocr play, and most of us play on different servers, and most dont want to play less with their guild as opposed to more. But if someone starts one ill make a guy and play.

[Rodin]

I would also think that the guy was talking about days /played - that is, not a few days real-time but a few days of playing. I believe the record the last time I checked was 6 days /played to get to 60.

[The Author]

Discipline Priest + Frost mage = easy grinding.

The priest does a mass pull with a psychic scream, he shields himself, then the mage, and then he keeps the mage alive.

[zircon]

I would also think that the guy was talking about days /played - that is, not a few days real-time but a few days of playing. I believe the record the last time I checked was 6 days /played to get to 60.

That sounds probable, but not likely - you'd definitely need to know EXACTLY what you're doing, have lots of gold on hand, twinked gear ready for you at every level, and probably high levels buffing/healing you at all times and making sure yeou don't get ganked. As far as I know, 11-12 days /played is the average for hitting 60. 9-10 is considered fast. Most people who are new to the game or MMORPGs spend time questing, PVPing, using the AH, levelling craft skills (and so forth) which makes things take longer.

[The Author]

I would also think that the guy was talking about days /played - that is, not a few days real-time but a few days of playing. I believe the record the last time I checked was 6 days /played to get to 60.

That sounds probable, but not likely - you'd definitely need to know EXACTLY what you're doing, have lots of gold on hand, twinked gear ready for you at every level, and probably high levels buffing/healing you at all times and making sure yeou don't get ganked. As far as I know, 11-12 days /played is the average for hitting 60. 9-10 is considered fast. Most people who are new to the game or MMORPGs spend time questing, PVPing, using the AH, levelling craft skills (and so forth) which makes things take longer.

I guess shorter would be possible. You would probably need gear at every 5 levels. Always the same kind of weapon (especially racial weapons like a human warrior with a mace) and tons of engineering weapons and potions. If you plan it out well, it would cost around 400 gold at least, and it would help to have crafted sets beforehand. Even then, you would need to also plan another 100 gold for a mount. No profession except first aid (during bathroom breaks), and no quests... Also, creating the character a week or two before the start of the fast grinding (easy low levels with rested XP fly by.) Throw in 4 16 slotter backpacks.

It would be interesting to say the least.

[suzumebachi]

my first toon hit 60 at right about 10 days. some people thought that was actually pretty quick. i recall the guild leader saying it took him like 15 or 16 days. but by the time he did hit 60, he had enough money for his epic mount.. which i never did.

anyways, i'm on Gorefiend now.

look for Atmosphere (Shaman) or Prophetus (Druid).

not sure which to level first though.

[Hydro]

I suppose it could be relatively possible...It just seemed absurd. Ive never had a 60, but my 29 had about 1 day of /played on him. He was going alot faster than some of the other classes ive played. One of the perks of playing multiple char's is that you can play one for a few days and leave the other guys in the Inn, then when you switch to a different guy they have a bunch of Rested xp which makes things go a bit faster. Of course the guy who plays one character will be farther than the guy playing multiple ones.

I have at least 260 hours total /played on WoW. After all of this time, I can finally say my favourite classes are Mage, then Fury Warrior. I had a 19 human mage (untwinked) who devastated in 10-19 WSG, even though most people play Rogues/Hunters in there.

[suzumebachi]

my brother is currently levelling 2 characters. a mage and a warrior, they're both lvl 57. the extra rest xp makes more of a difference than you'd think, plus you have a better chance of getting into UBRS/Scholo/Strat etc if you can be either a tank OR a mage.

in my guild there was a married couple that did this (a priest and a mage). when only one of them was playing, they'd switch between characters whenever one or the other was needed. when they were both playing, they made an excellent team.

[SleazyC]

Fura (formerly of Nightmares Asylum) of Curse leveled to 60 in 5 days played.

[suzumebachi]

NA = no life. :(

[SleazyC]

He left NA, but yes he had a lot of time on his hands to pull that one off. What was even funnier was he is now the gleader of Curse.

[zircon]

TEST REALMS ARE UP. You know what that means, SleazyC. :)

[The Author]

... I'm curious, what are the patch notes this time around?

[zircon]

They're on the WoW site.

World of Warcraft Client Patch
(Disclaimer: These patch notes are for the Public Test Realm and the content of the patch is subject to change.)

World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.10.2

General

* Guild Recruitment channel functionality has been improved to be turned off for players already in guilds, and turned on for players not in guilds by default.
* Fixed a bug which caused players to drop from combat after destroying a totem.
* Fixed a soft-lock bug that occurred under certain conditions when players were near ships, zeppelins, elevators, and the Deeprun Tram.

Mages

* Arcane Power: This aura will no longer stack with Power Infusion. If you use it, Arcane Power's aura will replace Power Infusion's aura.

Paladins

* Holy Shock will now be guaranteed to crit when used offensively while Divine Favor is active.
* Eye for an Eye will now properly produce its damage effect on the attacking caster.

Priests

* Inner Fire: Rank 3 will no longer have charges consumed when Power Word: Shield is active.
* Power Infusion: This aura will no longer stack with Arcane Power. If you attempt to cast it on someone with Arcane Power, the spell will fail.
* Starshards: Ranks 1 and 2 inadvertently received too much bonus from spell damage, while Rank 7 received no bonus from spell damage. Each of those ranks are now fixed to receive the correct bonus.

Rogues

* Fixed a bug which prevented Vanish from working properly under certain conditions.
* Seal Fate will now correctly provide a bonus combat point upon landing a critical strike.

Warlocks

* Improved Shadow Bolt will now proc properly after landing a critical strike with Shadow Bolt.

Warriors

* Rage generated from Unbridled Wrath and Shield Specialization will now display properly in the combat log.

Mac

* Fixed a client crash caused by weather effects when running OS 10.3.9.

World Environment

* Players should no longer become dismounted while riding through certain areas of the Undercity.
* Fixed a number of clipping issues and awkward turns discovered throughout various chained flight paths.
* Certain creatures in Eastern Plaguelands weren't providing reputation gain with the Argent Dawn. This has been fixed.

[xinster]

totally not finished i bet, but at least they unfucked undercity

[Rodin]

Well, it IS just the 1.10.2 patch. I'd be kinda surprised if more than one or two things were added to that.

"Certain creatures in Eastern Plaguelands weren't providing reputation gain with the Argent Dawn. This has been fixed."

This one makes me wonder. What changed in EPL to make them NOT give AD faction in the 1.10 patch? If it had been broken previously, surely it would have been fixed in one of the major patches.

[Conan The Politician]

Well, it IS just the 1.10.2 patch. I'd be kinda surprised if more than one or two things were added to that.

"Certain creatures in Eastern Plaguelands weren't providing reputation gain with the Argent Dawn. This has been fixed."

This one makes me wonder. What changed in EPL to make them NOT give AD faction in the 1.10 patch? If it had been broken previously, surely it would have been fixed in one of the major patches.

I'm not entirely sure on this, but didn't they add new items to be collected for the tier 0.5 set quests. Also, weren't some of the drop rates of items needed for the non-raid epic item quests (Breasplate of the Chromatic Flight, Skyfury Helmet) changed? Perhaps because of these changes, they somehow accidentally screwed up the rep gained from these mobs.

[xinster]

im not renewing my accnt till the mage patch is up

[zircon]

As a matter of fact, ANYONE HERE WITH LEVEL 60s transfer them to the Public Test Realm. We should get an OCR bg team going. :)

[SleazyC]

Yea me and zircon are trying to get on right now. I'm putting down $20 on myself when we finally get on and I get a chance to duel him.

[cobaltstarfire]

I'd do it, 60 druid...horde side.

Specced 8-11-32 so I can attend raids but still pvp reasonably well.

Wouldn't you guys have to list off names though we could find each other in that case?

Druids name is Lorenith in that case...if I get on anyway.

[zircon]

Arendor.

[SleazyC]

Look at my sig :p

[suzumebachi]

agh if my account with my 60's didn't get jacked i'd join you guys. (actually it didn't get jacked i'm just too cheap/lazy to renew it)

[Hydro]

agh if my account with my 60's didn't get jacked i'd join you guys. (actually it didn't get jacked i'm just too cheap/lazy to renew it)

guys i cant find the backspace so ill just change what i said half way through



ps. <3


Sadly enough im not finding much time recently to play this game at all.

[Bigfoot]

Sorry to just jump in this thread, but I'm thinking about re-activating for kicks. I need something to pass time, plus I can get game cards for like $24.


Is there like, 1 big server everyone plays on?

[SleazyC]

Me and zircon are on the Test PVE server and its up just a bit laggy.

btw... zircon 2 Meleganis 0 :(

[xinster]

i just played a test server rogue, and honestly i really dont see how anyone other than a mage can beat an experienced rogue PVPer. I had vigor and imp kidney shot. I was barely using sinister strike cause i was backstabbing so much, and of course, the ridiculous talents like relentless strikes

[zircon]

i just played a test server rogue, and honestly i really dont see how anyone other than a mage can beat an experienced rogue PVPer. I had vigor and imp kidney shot. I was barely using sinister strike cause i was backstabbing so much, and of course, the ridiculous talents like relentless strikes

Well..

<-

Priests, played correctly, have insane damage mitigation and recovery abilities. Every 15 seconds we can put up a shield that absorbs 1100 damage. My Renew spell is always going, which heals for 260 every couple seconds. I have an instant heal (Holy Nova) that does about 300-400 and damages anyone in the area for about 200. As an Undead priest I have a spell that does about 1k damage to an opponent and drains all that to me, as well. Every time I am crit, I recover 25% of that damage over 5 seconds also (so 1k crit = +250 life). With all these abilities combined, it's rare that I even need to use my 1.4 second cast time heal which does about 1.1k life.

Presumably it's the same for a Paladin or Shaman, played well. At least that is the approach I would take.

[Hydro]

i just played a test server rogue, and honestly i really dont see how anyone other than a mage can beat an experienced rogue PVPer. I had vigor and imp kidney shot. I was barely using sinister strike cause i was backstabbing so much, and of course, the ridiculous talents like relentless strikes

Well..

<-

Priests, played correctly, have insane damage mitigation and recovery abilities. Every 15 seconds we can put up a shield that absorbs 1100 damage. My Renew spell is always going, which heals for 260 every couple seconds. I have an instant heal (Holy Nova) that does about 300-400 and damages anyone in the area for about 200. As an Undead priest I have a spell that does about 1k damage to an opponent and drains all that to me, as well. Every time I am crit, I recover 25% of that damage over 5 seconds also (so 1k crit = +250 life). With all these abilities combined, it's rare that I even need to use my 1.4 second cast time heal which does about 1.1k life.

Presumably it's the same for a Paladin or Shaman, played well. At least that is the approach I would take.

How much damage do you put out whilst keeping yourself so alive?

[xinster]

right right, forgot about that priest buff lmao.

[zircon]

i just played a test server rogue, and honestly i really dont see how anyone other than a mage can beat an experienced rogue PVPer. I had vigor and imp kidney shot. I was barely using sinister strike cause i was backstabbing so much, and of course, the ridiculous talents like relentless strikes

Well..

<-

Priests, played correctly, have insane damage mitigation and recovery abilities. Every 15 seconds we can put up a shield that absorbs 1100 damage. My Renew spell is always going, which heals for 260 every couple seconds. I have an instant heal (Holy Nova) that does about 300-400 and damages anyone in the area for about 200. As an Undead priest I have a spell that does about 1k damage to an opponent and drains all that to me, as well. Every time I am crit, I recover 25% of that damage over 5 seconds also (so 1k crit = +250 life). With all these abilities combined, it's rare that I even need to use my 1.4 second cast time heal which does about 1.1k life.

Presumably it's the same for a Paladin or Shaman, played well. At least that is the approach I would take.

How much damage do you put out whilst keeping yourself so alive?

Not a lot. I usually do about 100 dps, primarily from Shadow Word: Pain and (if I'm trying) Devouring Plague. This is further augmented with Power Infusion and the Zandalarian Hero Charm, but even so, it can take several rounds of dots before the opponent is dead. Occasionally I will use Mind Blast (400-600 dmg on a cooldown) or my Wand (80 or so dps). This is as compared to Shadow priests who can do 400 dps no problem (MF ticks for 250, SW:P ticks for 250, Devouring Plague for 250, and all that damage builds up with Shadow Vulnerability). Plus of course they are getting healed due to Vampiric Embrace.

xinster; No, it's pretty much player skill. SleazyC was quite confident he could beat me and I have no doubt he beat 99% of Priests on his server. In addition I was quite capable of beating people 1v1 and surviving in PVP pre-1.10, but the additional changes are welcome. I am a very good player so I can make use of them well. I would wager that a VERY small segment of the Priest population really knows what they are doing when it comes to PVP.

[Skilless]

I, being a priest, can rarly beat a rogue (a fairly decked one) if they get the jump on me with repetative stun locks to keep me locked down enough that I can not cast. However; if the rogue doesnt kill me when he has used all of his points / fails to stun lock then I will just dot and fear then mind flay his ass down with my shield and VE up. It's all based on the circumstance. I just respec'd Disc / Holy soo im really weak because i don't have that much +dmg gear. Id like to one day be this guy - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737260276585568647&q=p

BTW, I got Shard of The Scale last night, OMFG woot.

[GeckoYamori]

Aren't hunters rogue killers?

[mecca]

Aren't hunters rogue killers?

I prefer to think of them as trap-campers.

Naturally I'm not going to fuck myself because they want a duel to begin in their favour, so I sit in stealth until they get bored and reckless :twisted:

[GeckoYamori]

It's impossible to win a duel without being called a coward anyway, regardless of class.

[mecca]

It's impossible to win a duel without being called a coward anyway, regardless of class.

PVP is a different kettle of fish altogether: hunters are often concerned with targets they can actually see which leaves a world of opportunity to those of us with cheapshot and crippling poison :)

[xinster]

xinster; No, it's pretty much player skill. SleazyC was quite confident he could beat me and I have no doubt he beat 99% of Priests on his server. In addition I was quite capable of beating people 1v1 and surviving in PVP pre-1.10, but the additional changes are welcome. I am a very good player so I can make use of them well. I would wager that a VERY small segment of the Priest population really knows what they are doing when it comes to PVP.

Would you say Mind blast is a necessary talent for a shadow priest? I opted for the lower enemy shadow resist, and got martydom and some other talents rather than imp mind blast.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priests2/talents.html?5000220000000002305001000000000050252 0103511051

[zircon]

I, being a priest, can rarly beat a rogue (a fairly decked one) if they get the jump on me with repetative stun locks to keep me locked down enough that I can not cast. However; if the rogue doesnt kill me when he has used all of his points / fails to stun lock then I will just dot and fear then mind flay his ass down with my shield and VE up. It's all based on the circumstance. I just respec'd Disc / Holy soo im really weak because i don't have that much +dmg gear. Id like to one day be this guy - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737260276585568647&q=p

BTW, I got Shard of The Scale last night, OMFG woot.

If you can't survive the initial stunlock, your health and armor is too low. Unless the Rogue is decked out in AQ gear, 4k+ health self buffed should be sufficient. Just remember, as soon as the stunlock begins, start spamming Fear and prepare to immediately throw up a Shield, Renew, and a Flash Heal. Then DoT the Rogue and proceed as normal.

xinster; that build is OK but IMO, skip the Holy tree except for Healing Focus. The imp Fort/Shield is nice for survivability and personally I like having Inner Focus in Discipline for an almost-guaranteed Crit (or free Devouring Plague). But whatever you do try to get 2-3 points into Imp Mind Blast. It's useful.

[Raenok]

Aren't hunters rogue killers?

I prefer to think of them as trap-campers.

Naturally I'm not going to fuck myself because they want a duel to begin in their favour, so I sit in stealth until they get bored and reckless :twisted:

Track Hidden.

[SleazyC]

xinster; No, it's pretty much player skill. SleazyC was quite confident he could beat me and I have no doubt he beat 99% of Priests on his server. In addition I was quite capable of beating people 1v1 and surviving in PVP pre-1.10, but the additional changes are welcome. I am a very good player so I can make use of them well. I would wager that a VERY small segment of the Priest population really knows what they are doing when it comes to PVP.
I'll second this right here. I don't think I've ever fought a priest on my server that played like zircon even though some of them sported the same gear or better. I definately want to get some more fights in with him as the second time we fought I did a lot better even though zircon still ended up pummeling me.

[mecca]

Aren't hunters rogue killers?

I prefer to think of them as trap-campers.

Naturally I'm not going to fuck myself because they want a duel to begin in their favour, so I sit in stealth until they get bored and reckless :twisted:

Track Hidden.

I R SMRT WITH TWO-WRD ANSWERS. BUT I R FORGETTING SEVERAL ROGERY ADVANTAGES LIKE TREES AND OTHER VARIOUS COVER LOL.

[GeckoYamori]

Nevermind the big fucking arrow pointing above your head.

[mecca]

Id like to one day be this guy - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737260276585568647&q=p

Judging from that tune used, Zircon has seen that video before.. Am I right? :)

[zircon]

Yep ;)

[mecca]

Nevermind the big fucking arrow pointing above your head.

(Oh really? 1.1 means Hunters can cast mark on already-stealthed characters?)

EDIT: NO. RESUBMIT.

[Phoenix Down]

j0 everyone, I'm back with an update on the WoW situation. For the most part I am on WoW now, the only thing is I'm having problems getting it reinstalled on my computer oddly enough, but I jack a friends comp every now and again to play as my

Night Elf/ Lhrayven/ Profession (Probably skinning and leathercrafting)/ Realm: The Deceived Realm
and I am going on level 14 right now.

This isn't my old character, she was like level 31 or 32. I'm playing on The Deceived Realm which is a free server (in case some did not know that). So if anyone wants, look me up. You can easily find the The Deceived Realm here http://clandeceived.com/.

Lucreshia over and out!

[zircon]

BTW: if you thought it was bad before, Sleazy, I'm working on picking up my new enchants and Ironweave gear. Once I finish what I need I'm going to have nearly 5k HP self buffed and nearly 4k armor. :)

[xinster]

brilliant suggestions for my priest. I have noticed some quite necessary changes...

[mecca]

BTW: if you thought it was bad before, Sleazy, I'm working on picking up my new enchants and Ironweave gear. Once I finish what I need I'm going to have nearly 5k HP self buffed and nearly 4k armor. :)

I thought you were rogue..?

[zircon]

No, Priest.

[The Author]

j0 everyone, I'm back with an update on the WoW situation. For the most part I am on WoW now, the only thing is I'm having problems getting it reinstalled on my computer oddly enough, but I jack a friends comp every now and again to play as my

Night Elf/ Lhrayven/ Profession (Probably skinning and leathercrafting)/ Realm: The Deceived Realm
and I am going on level 14 right now.

This isn't my old character, she was like level 31 or 32. I'm playing on The Deceived Realm which is a free server (in case some did not know that). So if anyone wants, look me up. You can easily find the The Deceived Realm here http://clandeceived.com/.

Lucreshia over and out!

I recommend herbalism/alchemy.

Leatherworking is not all that good. Self sufficience/self buffing pushes any character a lot further than putting armor kits on stuff you can easily buy off AH because of the money you make from seling superfluous potions.

[suzumebachi]

Nevermind the big fucking arrow pointing above your head.

(Oh really? 1.1 means Hunters can cast mark on already-stealthed characters?)

EDIT: NO. RESUBMIT.

No. However, hunters are still rogue killers 1v1. Allow me to once again mention Track Hidden. Trees are pointless when you become a giant blip on the hunter's minimap. Also, Flare. And not to mention hunter pets when set to agressive also have a better chance to detect you and break your stealth.

My druid is lvl 17 now (Prophetus on Gorefiend). Druids are fun, but without cat form the DPS is so low it's ridiculous. Doing the Samophlange quest in the barrens was a pain because I couldn't kill the goblins fast enough to clear it out so I could reach the control panel and the switches. They literally respawned just as fast as I was killing them. HOWEVER, in the same area, I survived some shit (omfg goblins are aggro happy) that probably only a paladin or a good priest would have survived. Druids are f'ing tough.

[Phoenix Down]

j0 everyone, I'm back with an update on the WoW situation. For the most part I am on WoW now, the only thing is I'm having problems getting it reinstalled on my computer oddly enough, but I jack a friends comp every now and again to play as my

Night Elf/ Lhrayven/ Profession (Probably skinning and leathercrafting)/ Realm: The Deceived Realm
and I am going on level 14 right now.

This isn't my old character, she was like level 31 or 32. I'm playing on The Deceived Realm which is a free server (in case some did not know that). So if anyone wants, look me up. You can easily find the The Deceived Realm here http://clandeceived.com/.

Lucreshia over and out!

I recommend herbalism/alchemy.

Leatherworking is not all that good. Self sufficience/self buffing pushes any character a lot further than putting armor kits on stuff you can easily buy off AH because of the money you make from seling superfluous potions.

I already have leatherworking as my craft. I don't plan on taking up those again till I create a second character, which I do plan on, so it really doesn't matter much.

[The Xyco]

My druid is lvl 17 now (Prophetus on Gorefiend). Druids are fun, but without cat form the DPS is so low it's ridiculous. Doing the Samophlange quest in the barrens was a pain because I couldn't kill the goblins fast enough to clear it out so I could reach the control panel and the switches. They literally respawned just as fast as I was killing them. HOWEVER, in the same area, I survived some shit (omfg goblins are aggro happy) that probably only a paladin or a good priest would have survived. Druids are f'ing tough.

No kidding. I've seen three high DPS classes attempt to gank a druid in Gadgetzan while in bear form. They were in the 48-55 level range, the druid was 46. Though the druid didn't stand a chance, he lasted ALOT longer than anyone could've expected. It wasn't until a hunter laid down an aimed shot that he went down.

You'll jump for joy when you get cat form. The difference between bear and cat DPS is remarkable. The biggest drawback is that you'll lose that incredible survivability. However, if you self-cast rejuvenation prior to engaging any mobs, you'll last alot longer. What I've found with a solo druid is that switching between cat, bear, and normal forms are key to surviving.

The first character I seriously played was a druid. I liked it alot, until I got to level 20 or so and realized that, to groups, I was nothing more than a healer. I really wish these types of games would have less dependence on healing classes, because they are always few and far between.

[zircon]

You'd be surprised. Lots of people play Priests, Shamans, and Paladins. Given that Priests can spec Shadow and do uber dps, and Druids *can* feasibly go Moonkin or Feral, I'd say WoW allows for more flexibility than any other MMORPG of its kind.

[suzumebachi]

yeah, but good luck doing end game as a feral druid.

raid leader: "what spec are you?"
druid: "feral"
leader: "is that like, healing and stuff"
druid: "uhh no"
leader: "you can heal right"
druid: "not very we--"
* druid has been removed from the group

also, paladins are so incredibly strong now since their patch. i was sitting in the crossroads when i see some 60 paladin come running through with like 6 gaurds on him. he literally runs right up to the flight master, aggros him and begins to tank the flight master, 2 wyverns, and the 6 gaurds. it took him like 5 minutes, but he fucking solo'd a god damn flight master with 6 gaurds and 2 wyverns on him. jesus. if that's not overpowered i don't know what is.

[cobaltstarfire]

yeah, but good luck doing end game as a feral druid.

raid leader: "what spec are you?"
druid: "feral"
leader: "is that like, healing and stuff"
druid: "uhh no"
leader: "you can heal right"
druid: "not very we--"
* druid has been removed from the group



That doesn't happen as much anymore with feral druids, atleast not on my server. Feral druids heal just fine and people are learning that. Maybe not quite as efficiently as a resto druid, but well enough to heal for bwl. People are also starting to accept that druids can tank instances and offtank pretty decently in raids. I have offtanked sulferon myself and I'm a restoration druid... Amazeingly enough I get to use innervate on MYSELF because our priests aren't total retards.

In regards to the hunter gripe a bit further up. Track hidden is trash, it does NOT track stuff like track beasts/humanoids/ect. It improves stealth detection slightly, and if the hunter detects someone stealthed yeah there will be a dot, but as soon as you move away the dot will disapear. Track hidden has never alerted me of rogues or cats before they were already within range of stunning me, and most hunters keep their pet on defensive or passive so the pet probably won't react. A good rogue can kill a good hunter, yeah hunters have an advantage, but they are killable.

[suzumebachi]

also, no improved mark of the wild? no guild.

[zircon]

Yeah I dunno what kind of shitty guilds you guys are in. We've got at least 2 Feral druids right now in my guild and they're very nice to have, especially for PVP (best WSG flag runners in the game).

[zircon]

My guild has room for anyone. We're cool like that. :)

Population? It's Medium. As Horde, you will rarely see a queue longer than 1m. If it's 5m, it's a "broken queue" and 15m is considered "ridiculous". All afternoon my queues have been within 10 seconds, just as a reference. Never had login queues.. ever.

[Epyon3001]

I play WoW quite Avidly. I go to a smart-kid, live-on-campus dorm Highschool, and a large group of my friends and I play on Suramar, Alliance side. We have a nice family-friendly guild, though we have recently gotten into MC and Onyxia. Just thought i'd throw out my shout. :D

[Hydro]

Yknow what? Ill start a horde on Gorefiend too. Sounds like fun.

Im not expecting to join, but rather curious- Zircon, does your guild have level requirements for joining? I often see guilds with such (which I would assume doesnt matter for alts).

[zircon]

My guild, Shadowlords, currently is very interesting. We are the biggest guild on the server so we have a VERY wide range of players - we also have a sub-guild called Shadowtwinks where we have most of our alts and lower level players.

[suzumebachi]

Level 21 now. Cat form is awesome and holy shit the 30% running speed talent is awesome.

I did something extremely retarded though. I ran through WC with some random fgts and... I forgot to loot the Gem of Serpentis. D: D: D:

*pounds face into keyboard*

edit: how do i get into shadowtwinks?

[SleazyC]

I will second the feral druid in end-game raiding situation. We currently have two feral druids with one of them being Rank 13 and they totally rock especially on the Nefarian encounter. They can sit back and intercept Draknoids that leak out and also shift into cat form for some extra dps. Also the +crit aura is a big favorite with the rogues!

Zircon - Been hearing a lot about Ironweave and Vhell wears a couple pieces as well. We need to get back onto test so we can fight again as I want to bring that rank 13 druid in our guild. Also need to find a less laggy area to duel in.

[zircon]

I will second the feral druid in end-game raiding situation. We currently have two feral druids with one of them being Rank 13 and they totally rock especially on the Nefarian encounter. They can sit back and intercept Draknoids that leak out and also shift into cat form for some extra dps. Also the +crit aura is a big favorite with the rogues!

Zircon - Been hearing a lot about Ironweave and Vhell wears a couple pieces as well. We need to get back onto test so we can fight again as I want to bring that rank 13 druid in our guild. Also need to find a less laggy area to duel in.

Alright, sounds good. Yeah I desperately want Ironweave; if I can get the four pieces I want, with the appropriate enchants, I'll be sitting at about ~1800 unbuffed armor and ~4.1k unbuffed HP. Maybe a little more if I can get a Smoking Heart of the Mountain. That's over 500 armor and 300 hp than I have now. However lately I've been doing PVE hardcore to get various healing items; lately I've acquired the Handguards of Transcendence, Rejuvinating Gem, Bindings of Transcendence, and the Shroud of Pure Thought. I even picked up a Band of Dark Dominion for when I go back to shadow. Built-up DKP ftw. :)

[SleazyC]

Yea nothing's dropping for me at the moment. All I really need are rings, trinkets and various jewlery.

[Raenok]

As a level 30 Hunter, I must say, Feign Death is one useful ability. Take, for example, when I finally decided to hunt down Steelsnap in 1k Needles. I figured it would be a long aimless search though the northwestern part, but I guess I was lucky since a found him about to cross my path with his two minions. So I waited until he was at a prime position to fire at him, sent Scavenger (my wolf pet) after him, and fired upon him until he died. Well, my shots are somehow more powerful tan my pet, SOOO he charged after me. He was a half HP, though, so it was easy to take care of him. But I forgot about his two lackeys. so, I sent my pet after them while I looted Steelsnap. Unfortanately, Scavenger was killed, and his two lackeys came after me. I tried to run, but I figured it would be worhless, and went for Feign Death to see if it would work. Worked like a charm. After the coast was clear, I got up and ran off to TB to get the second quest. In conclusion, I might be using that a LOT more from now on in tight situations.

Also, reading the article about Naxxramas on the WopW website made me ponder about a possible insult-fight between Sylvanas and the Lich King. Might not be funny to you guys, but it is to me.

[mecca]

So I was starting my Darkmantle 0.5 armour quest when I decided to take two days off University to hasten the process.

I was halfway through 45min Baron when we wiped for the second time, everyone was moaning and pointing fingers, and I started to wonder what the fuck happened to the last year of my life, and deleted all my characters.

WoW's gameplay is bollocks. It's the neverending quest to get bigger and better weaponry so you can walk through your respective city showing it off, coupled with the social aspect (even if it is comprised of immature retards with little or no comprehension of punctuation and grammar).

and I gotta say..






















































WHAT IN THE NAME OF FUCK HAVE I DONE!?

[suzumebachi]

I nearly did the same thing back in December. Fortunately I just decided to cancel my account instead. So my 60's are still there, somewhere in cyberspace, waiting for me. In the mean time I'm using my brother's account.

Anyways, I joined Malevolent Gaze on Gorefiend. Holy shit 465 members D: ..They let me in after I ran WC with some of their alts as main healer. BAHAHAHA FERAL SPEC FTW.

[xinster]

So I was starting my Darkmantle 0.5 armour quest when I decided to take two days off University to hasten the process.

I was halfway through 45min Baron when we wiped for the second time, everyone was moaning and pointing fingers, and I started to wonder what the fuck happened to the last year of my life, and deleted all my characters.

WoW's gameplay is bollocks. It's the neverending quest to get bigger and better weaponry so you can walk through your respective city showing it off, coupled with the social aspect (even if it is comprised of immature retards with little or no comprehension of punctuation and grammar).

and I gotta say..






















































WHAT IN THE NAME OF FUCK HAVE I DONE!?

rofl, was that a joke or serious? i lol'd anyway.

[mecca]

rofl, was that a joke or serious? i lol'd anyway.

Believe me, it was serious. I almost rolled a caster again last night in desperation, but thankfully my brother changed the account password in time.

[suzumebachi]

damn crackfiends. i won't have a lot of time to play for the next two weeks or so. this week is hell week, and next week is finals. plus i have tracks to finish and songs to post.

[Shonen Samurai]

I've recently rerolled with a bunch of my Lothar buddies on Dentarg. It's only a month old. I'm having a good time. If anyone wants to reroll there and join us, let me know. My warrior's name is Putrefaction.

[OA]

whew, i need a little break after the arathi basin weekend; I played more than I ever have I think, and it was awesome!

On my server we (the horde) are outnumbered 4 to 1, so our preformed team can have 5 second queue times while the alliance preforms have to wait at least an hour. We've gotten so well organized that our team that is mostly in blues can beat out alliance teams that are in full T2 gear (the advantage of having a huge population is the ease of raiding).

Is this situation common on your servers?

I know that our raiding groups are sortof messed up two with only like two or three raids being run by just a guild, and the rest (maybe 12 or so) are all comprised of multiple guilds joining together.

[zircon]

I've recently rerolled with a bunch of my Lothar buddies on Dentarg. It's only a month old. I'm having a good time. If anyone wants to reroll there and join us, let me know. My warrior's name is Putrefaction.

Alliance or Horde? Please say Alliance.

[Casual Gmoe]

Geez, nobody is from Thunderhorn? I have a 55, soon 56, Night Elf Warrior named Masamuri, look me up if your ever on. ^_^

[suzumebachi]

there's a guy i talk to at school sometimes about WoW that plays on Thunderhorn. idunno his name though, just that he plays a female NE hunter. -_-

Shonen: Alliance or Horde?

[GeckoYamori]

I thought they got rid of war efforts for newly created servers. There's nothing going on at my server, anyway.

I rolled a pally dwarf on the new one for a refreshing experience. I just got Verigan's Fist and oh boy, is it fun or what? First thing I did was smack up a lvl28 tauren shaman, at level 22.

[Shonen Samurai]

Suzu: I just rolled Horde since my guy on Lothar is Alliance.

[zircon]

~3450 armor now self buffed, still sitting at around 4650 HP. 6.2-6.3k mana. However I also have +15 defense now which doesn't hurt. I am now the most durable priest Hordeside on my server. NEED MORE GEAR

[SleazyC]

~3450 armor now self buffed, still sitting at around 4650 HP. 6.2-6.3k mana. However I also have +15 defense now which doesn't hurt. I am now the most durable priest Hordeside on my server. NEED MORE GEAR
Burn in hell...

Had to study today and missed out on picking up a Drake Fang Tailsman as well. Oh well maybe I'll just hoarde all my points for Death Dealers.

[suzumebachi]

~3450 armor

D:

that's... a lot.

[The Xyco]

So I'm thinking of starting on a new server. My current server (Thunderlord), is just way too full of level 60's and endgame guilds to have any fun, even when I'm relatively close to level 60 (Highest character is currently 47). I just went through two and a half hours of mediating between old guild buddies on personal problems, something which I have to deal with way too much in real life, much less a game full of Dwarves named "Chuccnorrris" and dancing, naked, purple elves. Most of the people I play with are way too concerned with endgame content and are leveling way too fast for me to even have time to enjoy the game with them. By now, all my contacts has moved on to fairly exclusive guilds that take up all their playing time.

I played around with the idea of starting my own guild, but you have to have prospects for endgame material to be even taken seriously by charter signers. It's just not a friendly environment for new characters, or anyone not dedicating four hours a day just to make quota. Like someone before me said, it's become too much like a business.

Oh, and God forbid Blizzard ever open up our server to transfers.

So I'm looking for suggestions. Server suggestions, race/class suggestions. Anything. This game can be really fun, but now when it's a chore to play.

I was thinking of joining a RP-PvP server, if nothing for a significant drop in 12 year-olds and being able to strike up some decent conversations with people, not ending up in a group of 4 Chinese farmers every time I run instances. Only thing is that there are only four RP-PvP servers, and I'm sure they have a similar establishment of my current one. If anyone knows different, let me know.

As for race/class, I was thinking either a Human Warrior, or Night Elf Rogue. More likely the former, since my main character was a Night Elf, and the early quests got really repetitive. I'm still open to the idea of playing Horde though, but only if I can be convinced that Trolls aren't that ugly.

[zircon]

~3450 armor

D:

that's... a lot.

Yep. That's a lot for Leather, actually. It's average for mail w/ 2hander.

[[deltree]]

So I'm thinking of starting on a new server. My current server (Thunderlord), is just way too full of level 60's and endgame guilds to have any fun, even when I'm relatively close to level 60 (Highest character is currently 47). I just went through two and a half hours of mediating between old guild buddies on personal problems, something which I have to deal with way too much in real life, much less a game full of Dwarves named "Chuccnorrris" and dancing, naked, purple elves. Most of the people I play with are way too concerned with endgame content and are leveling way too fast for me to even have time to enjoy the game with them. By now, all my contacts has moved on to fairly exclusive guilds that take up all their playing time.

I played around with the idea of starting my own guild, but you have to have prospects for endgame material to be even taken seriously by charter signers. It's just not a friendly environment for new characters, or anyone not dedicating four hours a day just to make quota. Like someone before me said, it's become too much like a business.

Oh, and God forbid Blizzard ever open up our server to transfers.

So I'm looking for suggestions. Server suggestions, race/class suggestions. Anything. This game can be really fun, but now when it's a chore to play.

I was thinking of joining a RP-PvP server, if nothing for a significant drop in 12 year-olds and being able to strike up some decent conversations with people, not ending up in a group of 4 Chinese farmers every time I run instances. Only thing is that there are only four RP-PvP servers, and I'm sure they have a similar establishment of my current one. If anyone knows different, let me know.

As for race/class, I was thinking either a Human Warrior, or Night Elf Rogue. More likely the former, since my main character was a Night Elf, and the early quests got really repetitive. I'm still open to the idea of playing Horde though, but only if I can be convinced that Trolls aren't that ugly.

Male trolls look stupid really, Blizzard made them slouch over way too much. Also their noses are too long and they are really thin. But, if you want a decent looking Horde character, play a female one.

[xinster]

lol my friend was sick of overpriced and overpopulated bullshit queues so he randomly xferred asap, and it was like getting teleported to a nether world, where you can only play single player cause of how low the population was. i lmaoed

[Shonen Samurai]

I disagree! Xyco, roll on Dentarg Horde with me.

[suzumebachi]

Gorefiend horde with me and zircon :(

...hmm everybody is playing horde.

maybe we should all get together and roll alliance somewhere.

[Triad Orion]

So I'm thinking of starting on a new server. My current server (Thunderlord), is just way too full of level 60's and endgame guilds to have any fun, even when I'm relatively close to level 60 (Highest character is currently 47). I just went through two and a half hours of mediating between old guild buddies on personal problems, something which I have to deal with way too much in real life, much less a game full of Dwarves named "Chuccnorrris" and dancing, naked, purple elves. Most of the people I play with are way too concerned with endgame content and are leveling way too fast for me to even have time to enjoy the game with them. By now, all my contacts has moved on to fairly exclusive guilds that take up all their playing time.

I played around with the idea of starting my own guild, but you have to have prospects for endgame material to be even taken seriously by charter signers. It's just not a friendly environment for new characters, or anyone not dedicating four hours a day just to make quota. Like someone before me said, it's become too much like a business.

Oh, and God forbid Blizzard ever open up our server to transfers.

So I'm looking for suggestions. Server suggestions, race/class suggestions. Anything. This game can be really fun, but now when it's a chore to play.

I was thinking of joining a RP-PvP server, if nothing for a significant drop in 12 year-olds and being able to strike up some decent conversations with people, not ending up in a group of 4 Chinese farmers every time I run instances. Only thing is that there are only four RP-PvP servers, and I'm sure they have a similar establishment of my current one. If anyone knows different, let me know.

As for race/class, I was thinking either a Human Warrior, or Night Elf Rogue. More likely the former, since my main character was a Night Elf, and the early quests got really repetitive. I'm still open to the idea of playing Horde though, but only if I can be convinced that Trolls aren't that ugly.

Male trolls look stupid really, Blizzard made them slouch over way too much. Also their noses are too long and they are really thin. But, if you want a decent looking Horde character, play a female one.

Hey, I like my male Troll, thanks. The slouching is what makes him awesome. :D

[suzumebachi]

trolls are cool. trolls are my friends. i think it takes a certain personality type to roll a troll.

i, on the other hand, like to roll taurens. i like being able to block the screen of the undead priest so he can't see wtf is going on. bwahahaehaer. plus, gnomes barely come up to my ankles. it's like, y hallo thar you fiendish midget, let us see if you fit in my mouth without chewing!

though, if i were to reroll alliance, i'd probably make a gnome. a gnome warrior. KiSS on Smolderthorn used a gnome warrior as an MT once vs. Lord Kazzak. that was mighty entertaining to grief. and watch. but mostly grief.

[The Author]

Back when I still played, there were only two tanks I trusted. Our guild's main tank (because I actually didn't have a choice but to trust him) and a gnome warrior.

The first time I went to Onyxia, we had the gnome as a main tank, and trust me, it was a marvelous sight.

[suzumebachi]

some hunter kited Dreamstalker all the way to XR on gorefiend. very entertaining it was watching all the lowbies try to attack it.

[xinster]

azuregos went to org once

[zircon]

There's something about a giant Tauren in full Wrath going toe to toe with one of the twin emps :)

BTW: fun stuff, my guild leader is pretty much about to cancel his account since he's bored with the game. Guess who the new leader is ><

[Xaleph]

There's something about a giant Tauren in full Wrath going toe to toe with one of the twin emps :)

BTW: fun stuff, my guild leader is pretty much about to cancel his account since he's bored with the game. Guess who the new leader is ><

Grats =)

I'm gonna ask you some strategies later.

[weggy]

Not sure if this'll see any views way down in this thread, but...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149638.html

Turns out WoWs gonna be a movie.

[Villainelle]

Haven't been here in a loooong time, but have been on WoW most of the past 2 years. Just wanted to post my character name here in case any of you old-timers might see this. (Hi Gray. :P)

Server: Lightbringer
OCR Name: Leah
Char Name: Villainelle
Race: Human
Class: Rogue

In an endgame guild doing AQ40 (Twin Emps atm). Come say hi sometime if you remember me.

[GrayLightning]

Haven't been here in a loooong time, but have been on WoW most of the past 2 years. Just wanted to post my character name here in case any of you old-timers might see this. (Hi Gray. :P)


Good to see you around! :o You've been missed.

You all need to stop playing this game, it's taken over your lives. :lol:

[Arek the Absolute]

supposed image link about the new alliance race. dunno where though

[suzumebachi]

also, blizzard has released info on the new shaman and mage talents. holy crap the new mage frost tree is GODLY.

[Arek the Absolute]

saw that and i was like man makes me want to play my mage again but he is just 40 and i dont feel like doing booty bay

wonder how the shaman will be with this review. hope they nerf earth shock to only 50% chance to stop a school cause that shit is realy annoying

[mecca]

Because it's not posted enough:

http://dall.no.sapo.pt/index.html

[GeckoYamori]

New alliance race:
http://www.curse-gaming.com/static/nimage/29/img0044.jpg

Looks like night elves, only not as incredibly gay.

[Raenok]

New alliance race:
http://www.curse-gaming.com/static/nimage/29/img0044.jpg

Looks like night elves, only not as incredibly gay.

Link doesn't work.

[suzumebachi]

curse-gaming.com appears to either be nonexistant or severely broken.

[The Author]

Curse gaming breaks on every patch day... people go there to download mods.

[GeckoYamori]

No biggie, the news is all over the place by now. The new race is called Eredar. I'm not big in Warcraft lore, but apparently they were wisps that transformed into this shape after Warcraft 3.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Eredar

[CE]

Because it's not posted enough:

http://dall.no.sapo.pt/index.html

I still don't get why that's on the portuguese site, Sapo...

[ellywu2]

If any EU players want an account with a 60 NE hunter, 40ish Human warrior and 40ish Tauren shaman PM me. I can't vouch for gear, as i deleted it all a while back, but the accounts fallen into disuse atm.

Ally characters are on Sunstrider, Horde is on The Maelstrom.

[Raenok]

No biggie, the news is all over the place by now. The new race is called Eredar. I'm not big in Warcraft lore, but apparently they were wisps that transformed into this shape after Warcraft 3.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Eredar

Not exactly. From the official WoW site, the eredar were transformed to the Burning Legion, but a few resisted, and escaped to find a save haven, with the BL in hot pursuit. They eventually settled on the Dreanor, wich they had a neutral stance with the Orc clans there. Of course, the BL found out, and used the Orcs against the draenei ("Exiled ones", thier official name). After being almost wiped, only 20% of them fled off to remote corners, were they found the source of the corruption of the Orcs. Of course, some were mutated into lesser forms, like the Draenei in the Swamp of Sorrows we see right now, and soon tried to find a new home. But the Blood Elves stole a technology from them, and forced them to crash on Azeroth. They saw that Orcs were settled on the planet, and decided to ally themselves with the Alliance instead, since they now detest the Orcs. That's at least what I gather.

Speaking of them...they look quite nice. But LOOK. A THIRD RACE OF PALADAINS?! ROFLOMGWFTHAX (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/draenei.html)

[KakTheInfected]

I really don't want to get back into playing WoW again, but the expansion looks like it could be lots of fun...I feel the addiction coming over me again :evil:

[suzumebachi]

oh shit so the draenei ARE the eredar. holy crap.

[Arek the Absolute]

draenai pally lol

[[deltree]]

The draenei males look like Klingons

[Ero Elohim]

The Draenei look like my kind of race. Big, beefy, but not giant like Tauren. I might be making another Warrior when Burning Crusade comes out.

[Sad Panda]

Hey would any one happen o know the password to get the murloc pet in the rouge part of IH i think you have to goto blizcon to get it and while that would be cool i cant afford that on my budget but a murloc pet would be fun

[suzumebachi]

i think you missed the boat there buddy. blizzcon was like.. 6 months ago.

[Sad Panda]

i know i couldnt afford it and by next year ill be in the air force about to ship off to kadeana
so no blizzcon for me...saddness

[cheese-cube]

also, blizzard has released info on the new shaman and mage talents. holy crap the new mage frost tree is GODLY.

As a Mage I am very pleased the new talent tree. The talent Winter's Chill has been turned from a mediocre talent to a must have (Original Winter's Chill: "Tier 2 1/3 Increases the power of your Chill effects by slowing the target's movement by an additional 4%/7%/10%" New Winter's Chill: "Tier 6 1/5 Gives your Frost damage spells a 20%/40%/60%/80%/100% chance to apply the Winter's Chill effect, which increases the chance a Frost spell will critically hit the target by 1%. Stacks up to 5 times.") The new Arcane Resilience talent (Tier 3 1/1 Increases your armour by an amount equal to 50% of your Intellect.) that replaces Evocation is good because it will increase the survivability of Mages, something a lot of people have been wanting. I also like how they made Arcane Explosion an instant cast by default and that they removed Evocation as a talent and made it a skill. It’s also good that they haven't changed the tree's too radically so I can still have my 18 Arcane 33 Frost build (Here is my current build (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mages/talents.html?0050505102000000000000000000005050201 320501351) and my new build (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mages2/talents.html?0050505102000000000000000000000250503 0102051351)). When I first heard that they were reviewing Mages I was scared because I thought they'd nerf them but I am very pleased with what they have done. Word up Blizzard.

[GeckoYamori]

The new Shaman Elemental tree is an incredible improvement, I have a caster Shaman I'm very dissatisfied with because Elemental as it is now does very little actual improvements to spellcasting.

[Skilless]

I didnt look to see if this link was already posted but www.whataboutpp.com

It shows pics of supposed Tier 3, Jewelcrafting, Legendary staff and the like that will be coming out in patch 1.11 and the ex-pack. (Priest and Sham tier 3 looks the best imo)

[TheRedBob]

The Draenei look like my kind of race. Big, beefy, but not giant like Tauren. I might be making another Warrior when Burning Crusade comes out.

Not to mention their legs are bent back like an AT-TE. My friends and I are all making Draenei on the same server.

[Bigfoot]

Just got into the game again because I actually have people to play with now.


I started a Gnome Mage on Burning Blade because that's where my friends are. If anyone else is on that server let me know.


I also have a few Horde characters on Arthas. Highest is 47 Undead Rogue.



What tradeskills should a Mage get anyhow?

[[deltree]]

Just got into the game again because I actually have people to play with now.


I started a Gnome Mage on Burning Blade because that's where my friends are. If anyone else is on that server let me know.


I also have a few Horde characters on Arthas. Highest is 47 Undead Rogue.



What tradeskills should a Mage get anyhow?

Alchemy, Tailoring, and Enchanting are all good caster skills. Alchemy for filling in buff holes. Tailoring for armor to wear/sell. Enchanting is great at higher levels but its such a money sink until ya get the good enchants. Then it rocks with the self-enchanting and charging people for enchants.
Also, in case some people didn't know having two gathering skills first makes big coinage so you don't have to worry about saving up for that mount.

[Bigfoot]

Just got into the game again because I actually have people to play with now.


I started a Gnome Mage on Burning Blade because that's where my friends are. If anyone else is on that server let me know.


I also have a few Horde characters on Arthas. Highest is 47 Undead Rogue.



What tradeskills should a Mage get anyhow?

Alchemy, Tailoring, and Enchanting are all good caster skills. Alchemy for filling in buff holes. Tailoring for armor to wear/sell. Enchanting is great at higher levels but its such a money sink until ya get the good enchants. Then it rocks with the self-enchanting and charging people for enchants.
Also, in case some people didn't know having two gathering skills first makes big coinage so you don't have to worry about saving up for that mount.

Thanks for the suggestions. You can only have 2 right? I might just go with Alchemy and Enchanting.

[The Author]

You need herbalism to pull off alchemy.

[Raenok]

So, anyways...I saw a wonderful spectacle last night. Usually on Alleria, Alliance guys usually ride through the top of Org to get to Thrall. But THIS time, I got to see 20-25 of them have the courage to go through the gates and barrel thier way through. Of course, my team pushed them back outside the gates and landed in a stalemate. Never got o see the end. Had to go do something.

But dang if it wasn't wonderful.

[Bigfoot]

Hmm, is it me or is WoW being laggy even though I have decent latency. 70-150ms. Lots of people i've seen are pretty skippy on my screen.

[Bigfoot]

Hmm, is it me or is WoW being laggy even though I have decent latency. 70-150ms. Lots of people i've seen are pretty skippy on my screen.

Sounds more like a hardware problem. You'll usually get some lag if you have any less than 1GB of RAM.

Well, I have 1gig of ram now and my video card is the X800XL. I run 1680x1050 with pretty much maxed out settings.

Maybe the new weather effects are the culprit? :P

[KakTheInfected]

What's your CPU? WoW is pretty picky about almost every single component in your PC.

[Bigfoot]

AMD 3700+ San Diegeo if I remember correctly. I've played WoW on this comp before and never experienced this before.

It's as if everyones playing on dial-up lol, because that's what it looked like.

[KakTheInfected]

There was a patch awhile back that caused all characters to move like that. It could be an error on Blizzard's end.

[Bigfoot]

There was a patch awhile back that caused all characters to move like that. It could be an error on Blizzard's end.

LOL, nice patch -_-

[Arek the Absolute]

You need herbalism to pull off alchemy.
not if your a twink!

[Bigfoot]

I'm so behind on WoW termanology. lol

[The Author]

You need herbalism to pull off alchemy.
not if your a twink!

Homosexual young boys dating older men have nothing to do with it.

[suzumebachi]

my computer:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+
1GB DDR400
GeForce 4 4200 128mb
250gb SATA HDD

I'm on 56k and I get no lag. Sometimes I'll get some occassional stuttering when entering Org and loading all the players, but that's it. Maybe you need to tone down your graphics settings (kill the AA or something).

AV is hella unplayable though. Not so much the graphics as much as the fact that 56k just simply can't handle that much madness. Makes me a very sad panda. I want to get me a frostwolf already damnit, but that ain't never gonna happen. :(

[Bigfoot]

my computer:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+
1GB DDR400
GeForce 4 4200 128mb
250gb SATA HDD

I'm on 56k and I get no lag. Sometimes I'll get some occassional stuttering when entering Org and loading all the players, but that's it. Maybe you need to tone down your graphics settings (kill the AA or something).

AV is hella unplayable though. Not so much the graphics as much as the fact that 56k just simply can't handle that much madness. Makes me a very sad panda. I want to get me a frostwolf already damnit, but that ain't never gonna happen. :(

You say you have 56k and you get no lag. I find that impossible. It may not look like you're experiencing lag on your screen, but trust me you're probably lagging on other people's screens.


It's like on Nintendo Wi-fi people say 56k works and that you don't have to have high-speed cable. They say they experience no lag. Sure on their DS they don't, but on their opponents they're jittering all over :P

[suzumebachi]

i may be skippy on other people's screens, but people aren't skippy on mine.

anyways, new racials:

Draenei:
* Blessing of the Naaru - heals the target of 50 damage over 15 sec (1.5 sec cast)
* Gemcutting - Jewelcrafting skill increased by 15
* Inspiring Presence - Increases chance to hit with spells by 1% for all party members within 30 yards
* Shadow Resistance - increased by 10

Blood Elves:
* Arcane Affinity - Enchanting increased by 15
* Arcane Torrent - Silence all enemies within 8 yards for 2 sec. In addition, you gain 20 Energy, Mana or Rage for each Mana Tap charge currently affecting you.
* Magic Resistance - All resistances increased by 5
* Mana Tap - Drains 50 mana from your target and charges you with Arcane energy until cancelled. This effect stacks up to 3 times.

That Draenei HoT looks severely gimped though. Hopefully the amount healed increases as you level, because at lvl 60 (let alone at 70) 50hp is absolutely dick. Same with the blood elf racials. 50 mana ain't dick.

[Bigfoot]

So I'm playing alliance on Burning Blade. Level 18 Gnome Mage atm.


My main guys are on Arthas. Horde ranging lvls of 47, 19, and below.


I'm wondering are there a bunch of OCR people on a Horde pvp server that I could get in on? I pretty much solo'd my way with a few instance groups here and there to 47 on my rogue with no guild heh. Well, I was in one but it was so dumb and unorganized. That lasted a few days. I wouldn't mind starting over from Arthas on a new server if I had a good community to go to that does raids n' stuff.

[KakTheInfected]

Well, I used to play on Nathreizm and might take up the game again when the expansion comes out :P

It's a pretty good PVP server. Horde PUGs always crush Alliance PUGs, but there are some very good Alliance guilds.

[luminaire23]

That Draenei HoT looks severely gimped though. Hopefully the amount healed increases as you level, because at lvl 60 (let alone at 70) 50hp is absolutely dick. Same with the blood elf racials. 50 mana ain't dick.

I definitely know that the Draenei HoT scales as you level(it's about as potent as Regrowth or Renew according to Blizz). Also, Inspiring Presence changes depending on what class you are(1% physical hit with warriors, I believe).

Not sure about Blood Elf's racials scaling, but you can suck out other types of "energy" other than mana and convert it to your own type(i.e. Rage to mana, mana to energy, etc.). Not to mention the 2 sec. AoE silence. Since I've just started a horde character, I may give a BE Warlock a whirl when BC launches.

[xinster]

inspiring presence is pissing me off. It's bad enough alliance have pallies now they get that shit? I wouldn't care if they made draenei better than bloodelves (functionality wise) but to make them better in group pve is ridiculous.


lmfao at mana tap giving a warrior 60 rage.

[cobaltstarfire]

Everyone knows alliance is PVE easy mode.

I think that the belf racial that leeches other peoples rage/energy/mana will be different depending on the class, just like the aura that draenei will have will (supposidly) differ for each class.

I also think that these racials will be nerfed into the ground before burning crusade is released.

[zircon]

Well, that was an interesting end to an interesting guild. After the old GM left, about 5 people left with him (quit the game). Then, over the next week, about 10-15 more people left, all of whom were our most geared core. A few officers quit, our main tanks left. Basically the guild was in shambles, unable to even get through MC, even though we had beaten Nef before. It was pretty clear it was over. After a huge chunk of other people left last night I headed out myself, and distributed parts of the guild bank to people who had worked to earn it. Crazy stuff.

[SleazyC]

Well, that was an interesting end to an interesting guild. After the old GM left, about 5 people left with him (quit the game). Then, over the next week, about 10-15 more people left, all of whom were our most geared core. A few officers quit, our main tanks left. Basically the guild was in shambles, unable to even get through MC, even though we had beaten Nef before. It was pretty clear it was over. After a huge chunk of other people left last night I headed out myself, and distributed parts of the guild bank to people who had worked to earn it. Crazy stuff.
Sorry to here it happened like that. What are your plans now if you don't mind me asking?

[Bigfoot]

The new tier 3 armor looks nice. I like the looks of the warlocks.

Let's see if I can even get Tier 1 stuff :[ lol

[mecca]

Same :( (http://guild.dreamreaper.nl/)

[The Author]

I don't even know what happened to my old guild...

Anyway, with my friends starting to play again, WoW has gotten pretty tempting, but my computer being crappy is kinda saving me from falling back into the addiction.

I'm sad to hear about your guilds, but I guess it's all part of online gaming.

[zircon]

Well, that was an interesting end to an interesting guild. After the old GM left, about 5 people left with him (quit the game). Then, over the next week, about 10-15 more people left, all of whom were our most geared core. A few officers quit, our main tanks left. Basically the guild was in shambles, unable to even get through MC, even though we had beaten Nef before. It was pretty clear it was over. After a huge chunk of other people left last night I headed out myself, and distributed parts of the guild bank to people who had worked to earn it. Crazy stuff.
Sorry to here it happened like that. What are your plans now if you don't mind me asking?

I don't know. It's the only guild I've ever been in, but I've gained such a good reputation over time that I have access to basically any guild I want now. Which is pretty cool. So I apped to "Black Letter Day" which is a small, tight group of very skilled players.

[ellywu2]

The new tier 3 armor looks nice. I like the looks of the warlocks.


They ride single file, to hide their numbers.

[Bigfoot]

Is anyone in a good Horde guild on a PVP server that I can get in on? When I say good, I mean like pretty good sized that does end game raids n what not.

[Nat]

Everyone knows alliance is PVE easy mode.


Too bad its not easy enough to warrant thousands upon thousands of people crying about it. I don't know of any guilds alliance side who can execute him better than us but, do you know of a little guy that goes by the name of viscidus?

[zircon]

Wow, one optional boss. As opposed to trivializing Onyxia, Razorgore, Nefarian, Taerar, etc. with Fear Ward alone.

[The Author]

Can't you just do a will of the forsaken rotation or some shit?

[zircon]

No.

But Paladins are definitely easymode for virtually everything, Dwarf priests aside. Blessing of Wisdom + Judgement of Wisdom are simply superior; a handful of Paladins can get more buffs for more people in the raid than a handful of Shamans, their auras stack with their blessings, better aggro reduction, the list goes on.

[Raenok]

The new tier 3 armor looks nice. I like the looks of the warlocks.


They ride single file, to hide their numbers.

Oh, hey, look, it's like those carnival games with the ducks and the single-file lines and the targets and the rifles.

[Nat]

Wow, one optional boss. As opposed to trivializing Onyxia, Razorgore, Nefarian, Taerar, etc. with Fear Ward alone.

Its not as gamebreaking as people make it out to be - and its far from trivializing the bosses as that one spell shouldn't be banked on keeping the entire raid alive, seeing that so many other things are happening that don't make fear ward that much of a major piece of the fight, but if its the case then that would be a very poor group of players.


I will say that during progression it is very useful but after that its not needed terribly, if at all - and with only the main tank being the primary concern to not get feared, its nothing that grounding totems and a smart MT that knows how to stance dance can't fix.



There are plenty of terrible people out there who still can't and may never beat those bosses even with the supossed silver bullet they may posess. Maybe I never noticed but when was fear ward ever used in a Razorgore fight?


And if you really wanted to bring up an issues with why most people truly think alliance is easy mode, Blessing of kings and salv would have done the trick.

[zircon]

Wow, one optional boss. As opposed to trivializing Onyxia, Razorgore, Nefarian, Taerar, etc. with Fear Ward alone.

Its not as gamebreaking as people make it out to be - and its far from trivializing the bosses as that one spell shouldn't be banked on keeping the entire raid alive, seeing that so many other things are happening that don't make fear ward that much of a major piece of the fight, but if its the case then that would be a very poor group of players.

I will say that during progression it is very useful but after that its not needed terribly, if at all - and with only the main tank being the primary concern to not get feared, its nothing that grounding totems and a smart MT that knows how to stance dance can't fix.

There are plenty of terrible people out there who still can't and may never beat those bosses even with the supossed silver bullet they may posess. Maybe I never noticed but when was fear ward ever used in a Razorgore fight?


And if you really wanted to bring up an issues with why most people truly think alliance is easy mode, Blessing of kings and salv would have done the trick.

I misspoke re: razorgore. DI'ing him makes it quite a bit easier.

And obviously, you don't NEED to rely on fearward, but it makes things a hell of a lot easier. My old guild was stuck on Nef for 2 months. Our only problem? The MT getting feared. The tanks were not skilled enough to stance dance, and tremor totems are completely unreliable (if you know their mechanics, they are not proactive, they may take up to 3 seconds to activate). EVERY other part of the fight we had on lockdown. Our healing was fine, Phase 1 was fine, DPS was fine, callouts were fine. The simple fact is that if we had been Alliance, we would have killed nef MUCH sooner.

Once again, Alliance really is easy mode. I'm aware BoK and BoS are very powerful also, but Fear Ward in particular pisses me off because I'm an Undead Priest and I don't get it. I would trade Devouring Plague anyday for it. Hell, I'd trade WotF for Stoneform too, given that our trinket dispels Fear but we have no way to get out of Poisons (Viper Sting, Crippling, etc) with gear or Horde racials.

[Nat]

I guess i'll accept the fact that it is an easier faction to play for pve...its just that when I hear the words "easy mode" it multiplies in my mind to make me makes it sound like our faction is a walk in the park, because it isn't...and you must be the only undead to want to trade his racial (maybe cause you are a priest) because all my friends make fun of will beacuse they think its so overpowered. Stoneform has its uses but more often then not its not used...

You also have to understand (which im sure you do)that horde racials are more pvp oriented...am I allowed to say that horde has it easy mode for pvp?


And im sure you know DI'ing Razor is a bannable offense.

[zircon]

I guess i'll accept the fact that it is an easier faction to play for pve...its just that when I hear the words "easy mode" it multiplies in my mind to make me makes it sound like our faction is a walk in the park, because it isn't...and you must be the only undead to want to trade his racial (maybe cause you are a priest) because all my friends make fun of will beacuse they think its so overpowered. Stoneform has its uses but more often then not its not used...

You also have to understand (which im sure you do)that horde racials are more pvp oriented...am I allowed to say that horde has it easy mode for pvp?

And im sure you know DI'ing Razor is a bannable offense.

Fear Ward is a PRIEST racial. Will of the Forsaken is a non-class racial. I would trade my Priest racials for the Dwarf Priest racials. Or the Human ones for that matter. Devouring Plague is nice but highly limited in its use.

Horde does not have it easy mode for PVP either. Paladins are superior healers in every way, shape, and form to horde healers. They are by far the most durable and effective combat healers on the battlefield. Priests don't hold a candle to them; no parry, no block, often less than 1/3 the armor, no Cleanse, no immune shield, worse mana efficiency, etc. Shamans have their uses as well but while I have lost countless times on teams with 3-4 Shamans, I have rarely seen a Paladin-heavy team lose (these are comparably geared + skilled players).

[Nat]

Yeah your right, I don't know why I was thinking of will. At least you can be happy to not have the NE racial...


Okay it might not be exactly "easy mode" status but just due to the obvious racials (25 percent stun resist, war stomp, will, etc) geared toward pvp and seeing how shaman are an offensive oriented support class (windfury) as opposed to paladins i'd be hard pressed to say that horde don't have an advantage.


And to be more specific when I say PVP I mean an orginized 5 man group. More than 1 pally in a 5 man group would be bad news - coming from a (very smart)pally in my guild the only reason you'd ever use double pally would be if it was an alliance vs alliance with a cheese group of just pallies and warriors.

[Raenok]

These new bosses for Narraaxmas may change the way guilds use "strategies" for certain high-powered bosses.

[OA]

no offense to your tank, but if you guys were on Nef and he *still* couldnt stance dance, you probably wouldnt have that difficult a time finding an MT who could. That kind of skill you should be learning on magmadar.

As someone who has raided both alliance and hordeside, I do have to say though for PVE pallies are way nicer than shamans; the only thing totems have going for them compared to blessings is that they look cool. Having another class that can dispell makes learning fights a lot easier too on the priests.

Paladins are sick in PVP as well, it's just a good thing that there are so many retarded ones who die with full mana or only heal themselves. Ashkandi paladin? Give me a break...

[Bigfoot]

So I was farming Rock Elementals for fun and this decided to drop:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/986/crushridge4ud.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Nothing too special, but I could always use the money toward my mount that my lvl 48 rogue doesnt have :[

[suzumebachi]

my guild is creeping me out. 500+ members and i hear them moaning every time they wipe on the friggen snake boss in ZG. best they've done in MC is get Luci down to 56%... this guild is weird man. this is the only guild i've ever been in that has too many druids and priests but not enough rogues and mages... seriously wtf.

anyways i hit 41 last night. i'm considering respecing, but i think i'll hold off until 60. (i'm feral currently).

[Bigfoot]

What's a good rogue spec now a days? Right now im 21/2/16 but I think it's pretty gimp. I kind of regret getting Ghostly Strike, but oh well.

[Bren]

my guild is creeping me out. 500+ members and i hear them moaning every time they wipe on the friggen snake boss in ZG. best they've done in MC is get Luci down to 56%... this guild is weird man. this is the only guild i've ever been in that has too many druids and priests but not enough rogues and mages... seriously wtf.

anyways i hit 41 last night. i'm considering respecing, but i think i'll hold off until 60. (i'm feral currently).

Thats sounds 100% like the guild I used to be in on Twisting Nether...they were never meant to go beyond the limits of General Drakkisath or The Beast...but the masses of the guild demanded we move onto real raid instances. After 6 agonizing weeks of not always killing Lucifron...1 time killing Magmadar and never killing Bloodlord Mandokir or Mar'li (spider boss) it disbanded.

Yeah...I havent played on Twisting Nether for about 4 weeks now. Ive made Maelstrom Horde my new WoW home for the time being. This new guild I joined has some great potential. We have a few members who know every strategy for Molten Core, and on the guild's first attempt on Zul Gurub last night they killed the Snake, Bat *and* the Spider boss (thats the one which impressed me)

[suzumebachi]

my guild is creeping me out. 500+ members and i hear them moaning every time they wipe on the friggen snake boss in ZG. best they've done in MC is get Luci down to 56%... this guild is weird man. this is the only guild i've ever been in that has too many druids and priests but not enough rogues and mages... seriously wtf.

anyways i hit 41 last night. i'm considering respecing, but i think i'll hold off until 60. (i'm feral currently).

Thats sounds 100% like the guild I used to be in on Twisting Nether...they were never meant to go beyond the limits of General Drakkisath or The Beast...but the masses of the guild demanded we move onto real raid instances. After 6 agonizing weeks of not always killing Lucifron...1 time killing Magmadar and never killing Bloodlord Mandokir or Mar'li (spider boss) it disbanded.

Yeah...I havent played on Twisting Nether for about 4 weeks now. Ive made Maelstrom Horde my new WoW home for the time being. This new guild I joined has some great potential. We have a few members who know every strategy for Molten Core, and on the guild's first attempt on Zul Gurub last night they killed the Snake, Bat *and* the Spider boss (thats the one which impressed me)

lol my guild on smolderthorn before it disbanded had cleared ZG up to hexxer. we had mandokir on the first try... but this guild can't even kill the snake boss. THE SNAKE BOSS.

*pounds face into keyboard*

[Bren]

I'm sorry...that's quite painful :(

(sounds like finding a new guild is in order...is there any particular reason to stay with this guild?)

[Arek the Absolute]

yay for new tier 3 set
now pallies can truly replace priests as main healers as they were meant to be
pally in front line? the fuck are you smoking. they are healers

....fucking retarded man....

[Ero Elohim]

I just rolled onto Maelstrom - Horde myself. Level 33 Rogue named Feyless. Don't know where you're at (sounds like you hit 60 already) but look me up if you need another /friend.

[Bigfoot]

Getting a guild is so hard it seems.. lol

[zircon]

my guild is creeping me out. 500+ members and i hear them moaning every time they wipe on the friggen snake boss in ZG. best they've done in MC is get Luci down to 56%... this guild is weird man. this is the only guild i've ever been in that has too many druids and priests but not enough rogues and mages... seriously wtf.

anyways i hit 41 last night. i'm considering respecing, but i think i'll hold off until 60. (i'm feral currently).

Malevolent Gaze is kind of a joke. It's a nonfactor guild. The top guilds are basically Limbo (on C'Thun), Rune (on C'Thun), and Black Letter Day (on Huhuran - should die today). Lesser guilds that still aren't bad: Red Cell (on Sartura or Fankriss, BWL on farm), Deadmoon Tribe (on Chrommagus), and The Rebellion (on Vael).

[suzumebachi]

i heard some members of Shadowlords are trying to get back together with a new guild called Innocent Bystanders or something like that.

[Bigfoot]

After actually farming for some gold, I finally got my first mount at lvl 48 :[ lol

[zircon]

i heard some members of Shadowlords are trying to get back together with a new guild called Innocent Bystanders or something like that.

Yeah.. I don't know, something like that. I think Unholy Rapture (another weaker guild) wanted to merge anyway. Regardless, I'm done with SL. They were my guild for a year, and we were ALMOST at the top, but by the time I became GM it was too late to fix it. Everyone was already jumping ship.

[xinster]

little bit of trivia:

most of you guys already know kate from kate's playground plays wow, but i found out today

Brandi Belle from BrandiBelle.com (produced by bangbros) has a 50 on Illidan. Email her about it if your interested, she responded to me in 3 hrs.

[Arek the Absolute]

Ya, thanks for saying exactly who she is.
NOTE: Not work safe for googling her.

[Brycepops]

Ya, thanks for saying exactly who she is.
NOTE: Not work safe for googling her.

:lol: Well if anyone has their name associated with "Bangbros", you should already know you shouldn't be looking them up anywhere else except home :wink: .

[Souliarc]

little bit of trivia:

most of you guys already know kate from kate's playground plays wow, but i found out today

Brandi Belle from BrandiBelle.com (produced by bangbros) has a 50 on Illidan. Email her about it if your interested, she responded to me in 3 hrs.

Have you ever thought that maybe they say stuff like that just to get you to adore them because that's one way they can "relate" to you? With as big as online gaming is, and all those desperate nerds, it would seem to be a fairly easy marketing scheme to put that on their profile :-/

They probably make so much money, they could even get someone to act as the portrayed, in the game.

[The Xyco]

I was originally going to post this at the worldofwarcraft.com forums, but realized I'd probably get nothing more than a hundred "stfu git 2 60 then u can spaek" responses.

So I was watching some PvP videos and trying to get a better idea of how this hunter thing works. This happening just after a brutal night of being destroyed in WSG and having some less-than-pleasant PvP encounters in the Wetlands and Badlands.

One thing I noticed about PvP Hunters (and for all PvP in general) is how small the window of opprotunity is to get off some good shots on your target.

While watching these videos, I was notcing how quickly these hunters were dropping traps, getting out a Scatter/Concussive Shot, etc. Really, I want to know how anyone can time their skills so perfectly, and I'm guessing it has something to do with key configuration.

And let me know if I'm looking too much into this.

I have my keyboard set up the same was I setup my Shooting games. "W" for forward, with "Q" and "E" for strafing, "S" for back, and the number keys above for skills. However, since my hand position is so far to the left, I only have the number keys 1 through 5 within direct reach. The others I have to remove my fingers from movement controls, and since I have pretty big hands, need to make sure I'm hitting the right key with very fast passing glance.

That puts only 5 skills within my direct ability to get out when I want to, which is a scant amount to say the least. Currently the are assigned to Auto-Shoot, Raptor Strike, Hunter's mark, One of the stings (Serpent, Viper, or Scorpid, depending on what I'm fighting the most at the time), and Concussive Shot. My traps aren't even bound to a key, and I have to manually click them.

Is there a better way to set up my command scheme for PvP? I know many people have a seperate PvP - PvE setup, but mine are still restricted to the 5 primary skills, everything else is a toss up as to whether or not I'll be able to effectively use them.

Here's a screenie of how it looks:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g207/thexyco/WoWScrnShot_052406_114459.jpg

[cobaltstarfire]

If you're a clicker.

Move all those skills on the top right bar to the left side. Make it so everything you use alot is clostest to the middle/left of the screen, and make sure stuff you use in conjunction is next to each other.

If you're a hotkey user, I can't help you cause I'm a noob clicker..but I pwn at hunter so meh.

Put Feign Death and Frost trap right next to each other. (NOTE: FD is not working correctly most of the time right now and doesn't always remove you from combat)

Or if you have the know how make a macro, there is a way to make one that will fd/trap for you I just dont know the code :p

Edit:
Here's my UI right now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/cobaltstarfire/hunter.jpg

[ellywu2]

Bind your FD/trap macro or SS to R,

[Rodin]

Some other advice:

If it's 1v1, learn how to AotC kite melee classes. You can take down warriors, rogues, and paladins without even getting hit if you're good enough.

If there is a large battle going on, don't fire on someone who is unengaged. Blast away at that AOEing caster or the warrior who is already slowed by another effect.

If you're going to be PvPing a lot, get the Hawk Eye talent. 6 yards may not seem like much, but it makes one hell of a difference.

You can also do nasty stuff like send your pet in from 60 yards away. If they then target your pet, move up to 41 yards and blast away. If they come after you, run away and let your pet eat them.

Learn to do the 360 jump shot - the damage is slow, but if they never catch you...

[zircon]

Also; freezing trap is DEFINITELY your friend. You can kite people indefinitely with it and Feign Death.

If you see a caster, your pet should be on it. It makes it harder for them to cast spells. Priests are your #1 priority; their self-buff gets diminished as your pet hits it.

Viper Sting on every Priest you see.

[KakTheInfected]

I might be late to the party on this, but they're upgrading the PVP armors? Sweet! I have 1/2 of the Warlord set and I want to start playing again to see what they're like now. General's gloves might finally replace Stronghold Gauntlets...

[zircon]

Yeah, the upgrades look GREAT. They made the Priest set actually worth using, for both DPS AND pvp healing (more armor, stam, mana regen). Fantastic. And they added HWL caster weapons!!!

[KakTheInfected]

Did they upgrade the existing weapons too? I've only seen the armors. If so, link please cause I can't find any info on it :P

[zircon]

No, I don't think they UPGRADED the weapons; they did, however, add 5 new ones, if I recall correctly. Two 1 handers, two offhands, and a 2h mace.

[cobaltstarfire]

If they updated the weapons there has been no word of it.

The druid update kindof blows...took away all the ap on it...

Not that it matters cause I'll never be that rank on my druid. But still, it sucks for the druids that actualy pvp.:(

[zircon]

I don't think you guys lost much AP. I'm pretty sure you gained some nice stam + armor though. Druid PVP != Feral DPS..

[KakTheInfected]

No, I don't think they UPGRADED the weapons; they did, however, add 5 new ones, if I recall correctly. Two 1 handers, two offhands, and a 2h mace.

Well, that's good at least. It always bothered me that the only class that had any real choice at HWL/GM was Warrior and possibly Paladin.

Speaking of, how are Warriors nowadays? I know they went through a bit of nerfs since I quit, and that was after they hacked down our AP way back in the fall of last year...

[zircon]

Warriors own hard because their itemization is superior to basically all other classes.

[cobaltstarfire]

I don't think you guys lost much AP. I'm pretty sure you gained some nice stam + armor though. Druid PVP != Feral DPS..

Druid in PVP == whatever the hell he or she wants to be.

Sure I personaly don't dps, but that's because I'm resto specced and the only other gear I have is for tanking and surviveing world pve. So yeah the gear might be nice for me if I had the desire to pvp that much. (which I don't). I like bearform in pvp, most druids do not.

That gear is AWFULL for those poor oomkin pewpew moonfire druids (and they can do a buttload of dps when geared and played correctly).

Most PVP druids do NOT want to be furry little warriors, they want to dps, and let me tell you a druid can dps very well if he gears and specs for it. The gear for pvp rank is not good for that. Cat druids need ap, agility, and stamina to be good. Str helps, but not as much as agility does because agility gives dodge armor and crit chance, and flat ap helps a druid more then str, since it takes a fair bit of str to get any form of ap on druid.

[zircon]

Yeah, but you're hybrids, thus you get hybrid gear. Hell, even the Priest set is hybridized; it's not pure healing, it's not pure shadow damage, it's not pure regen.. it's a mix. That's the point of it. It's like a Warrior complaining their PVP set doesn't have +15 defense on every piece.