Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening: Threshold of a Dream - History

[prophetik music]

i was thinking earlier about why we don't have a webspace, and I can't think of a good reason. at least then we could host the wips there in a locked folder, so that at least we can give each other feedback and such. plus, then it'd be easier when we release it - we wouldn't have to pull a fully finished website out of nowhere near the end of the project.

heard anything from eonblue about graphics?

EDIT: what about sigs? everyone else has one. i know i asked before, but can anyone else on the project throw something together? don't make me go mspain(t) on your sorry arses...

[Aetherius]

Eon made us a cover a while ago, but that's about all.

Escariot has been hosting the wips on his webspace, but the webspace hasn't been released in this thread because I'm witholding the wips from the general populace until the 10th of December.

Meanwhile, it'd be great to have forumsigs, but I can't design them myself.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

like i said in Project Chaos's thread -

I'm going to be outta the scene music-wise for a couple of weeks; In a recent store robbery, I was shot twice (first shot scraped shoulder, second went through). I've been shot before, so I wasn't going crazy, but it does hurt to move it too much, so I'm going to rest my arm for awhile.

-
Although it may not be that long of a time. Plus, I'm getting a guitar upgrade again, so that might motivate me even more.

[prophetik music]

dude, you were shot? crazy.

i knew we had a space for hosting wips, but do we actually have a website, like, with bios on each remixer and more info on the game, the project, etc? if not...does anyone want to do that?

[Eposhark]

Fusion2004 wanted to take a shot at it.

Yeah, some more artwork like sigs would be cool. I'll ask my girlfriend to design some, I'll keep you guys updated.

[Aetherius]

I've talked to KungFuChicken. He will still on the project...and wants to be Canadian. haha.

Meanwhile, That would be a good idea, Epo. Marvellous.

[Eposhark]

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laprojectsig.jpg

Suggestions, critique ? Is this going the right way or ready for the trashcan ?

[Aetherius]

looks alright...but I think the logo should be in the foreground, wouldn't you think?

[Eposhark]

Good point Starky, I told my girlfriend about it, and she said she would try to change it. While she was on it, she'd make some other examples too. The design would stay the same, she just tinkered with some settings, changing accents and such.

She made 14 examples in total, which examples appeals the most to you, and why ? What do we all think ?

For your conveniency, she numbered them ;-)

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/LinkProjectBanners.jpg (1,4 MB) Here's a link to the file, because it's a little too big for this forum :-)

[Eposhark]

Although there hasn't been any response on the Forums, I got some response in the IRC channel. According to that, I made some changes to it :


http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/Link%20banner%2022.jpg

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/Link%20banner%2021.jpg

I like the first better, what do you guys think ? by the way, should it be "Link's Awakening Project" or "Link's Awakening Remix Project" ?

Either way, I left some space open for special, person-specific sigs, like "Project Coordinator", "Site Designer", "Project Participant" or the like, you name it. Gimme some ideas !

(The changes made are : Made Link more highres, changed the color and locating of the title, made the shield and sword around the Z visible)

[Aetherius]

I'm not sure I like the green background soo much. I think it'd be cool if somehow you could make it look more like...a gasoline rainbow. heh, you know? Where the colours all fade into eachother?

Otherwise, I like the tweaked versions better too.

[Benjamin Briggs]

like i said in Project Chaos's thread -

I'm going to be outta the scene music-wise for a couple of weeks; In a recent store robbery, I was shot twice (first shot scraped shoulder, second went through). I've been shot before, so I wasn't going crazy, but it does hurt to move it too much, so I'm going to rest my arm for awhile.

-
Although it may not be that long of a time. Plus, I'm getting a guitar upgrade again, so that might motivate me even more.
I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION YOU DASTARDLY LITTLE PERSON

Also, I'm going to work on my track some more tonight. Don't know if I'll have a substantial update or not, though.

-chth

[Aetherius]

Just a reminder that the following tracks have not been taken:

Track 6 > Tal Tal Heights (6/96)
Track 13 > Turtle Rock (90/96)
Bottle Grotto (21/96)
The Hen House (87/96)
Animal Village (11/96)
Richard's Villa (64/96)
The Trendy/Fishing Games (2/96)<53/96>
Choose a Name (17/96)

I know my name is beside turtle rock, but at the moment, should someone present me with a good wip, I would let them have it.

Meanwhile:
The wip deadline is coming!
Are you ready?!

On thiw wip deadline (Dec. 10th) We will be releasing the wips to the general public. This way, we can give eachother feedback. While I would have preferred to have kept them secret the whole time, and spring the album on everyone without them having heard the tracks, it's hard for anyone to be interested in something they haven't heard, so let's hope the wip release will interest some people.

That said, if you haven't even started *glares* we need to talk.

[Eposhark]

21 :
http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/Link%20banner%2021.jpg
22 :
http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/Link%20banner%2022.jpg
23 :
http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/link%20banner%2023.jpg

[Aetherius]

if possible, I'd like to go with something close to the last one.

[prophetik music]

bumplage

so are we going with the last picture in the last picture post?

[Aetherius]

O_o, better yet, pick whichever one you like best

[KWarp]

*reads thred title*

Still short on staff eh? I suppose this is as good a time as any to offer my talents as a Cellist. (sample) (http://www.olremix.org/remixes/?id=302) Believe it or not I've been playing 5.5 years. Yeah.. recordings tend to make good sound seem less than professional. Hey, I'm around if you need me. >.>

[Aetherius]

Well, as a cellist, we could definitely use you on the last track...maybe. The last track will either be awesome or terrible. heh, but I like to think, piano, violin, guitar, cello, saxophone, and electronic ambience can all get together and make sweet love... :)

[prophetik music]

aeth, are you looking for something to be a ballad, or some really heart-wrenching orchestral thing? cause i've got that whole heart-wrenching thing down pat, and with the instruments available, i might be able to do something...

[Aetherius]

well, something heartwrenching, preferably. It's not JUST the ballad. It's the ballad, followed by the endtheme, which is quite happy. I want something emotional, and awesome. So, I'm hoping we could put all of these instruments to good use in this song. something...experimental prog-rocky...epic...and...somewhat orchestral.

[Eposhark]

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laproject_sig_final.jpg

This is the official Link's Awakening Project sig. Feel free to use it on this forum, on your personal website, or whereever you want to show others you are part of this project.

Currently, we don't have a site, but it's being taken care of. When it is complete (or it is up as a wip), please link to it using the signature above. For now, just link to this thread.

Everyone who wants can use this signature. This is the "blank" signature. People who are part of this project, please ask me to make a personal one for you. So if you want one stating "Project Mixer" or "Site Designer", just say so, and you'll get your special one. If you have other ideas for it, let me know.

Here is the link to use : http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laproject_sig_final.jpg

[prophetik music]

well, something heartwrenching, preferably. It's not JUST the ballad. It's the ballad, followed by the endtheme, which is quite happy. I want something emotional, and awesome. So, I'm hoping we could put all of these instruments to good use in this song. something...experimental prog-rocky...epic...and...somewhat orchestral.

well, now that you have given us such a definition as to what you want to do...do you have a song that might be similar in sound? just for a reference?

[Aetherius]

Nope :D

Edit: as you can see by my signature, I have forumsigs made, courtesy of EpoShark, his girlfriend, and me.

We'll have them available shortly online somewhere. (mine's on imageshack! yay!)

[KWarp]

Well, as a cellist, we could definitely use you on the last track...maybe. The last track will either be awesome or terrible. heh, but I like to think, piano, violin, guitar, cello, saxophone, and electronic ambience can all get together and make sweet love... :)

Heh, you're the boss. :roll:
Also, seems that as of last week my playing ability has improved quite a bit (thanks vibrato! :)). If I'm determined/nagged enough I should be able to record something more current this weekend... I'll do the classic Tetris theme methinks..

[Eposhark]

Update. We (Starky) made some extra sigs, please use them accordingly.

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laproject_banner_supporting_cast.jpg

This is the signature for everyone who wants to use it. As it says, it means you are no mixer and are not affiliated to the project, except you like it. In one word, you are a fan.

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laproject_banner_girlmixer.jpg

This is a remixer sig for the women who are with us. Like Rexy and Monobrow.

http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laproject_banner_boymixer.jpg

This is for the guy-mixers our there. Simple, right.

As said before, try putting them in your signature, while linking to this thread. Aftwards, when the site is up, please link to the that.

This is the way to use it (in my case)



[url=http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=66077][img]http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~s0162853/laproject/laproject_banner_supporting_cast.jpg[/img][/url]

[Hylian Lemon]

I thought there's already been a LA project, but maybe it was dumped. Anyhow, this is going to be a great project and I look forward to the results. More Zelda is never a bad thing. :)

If I were a remixer, I would definately want to get in on this project. But alas, I'm only just trying to learn. Maybe if I ever get good, I can start a project for some other game... *knows that will probably never happen*

*puts supporting image in sig* This project ROCKS.

Just wondering...if everyone gets done with their final versions before January 10, will you release it early or will you just give them the extra time to make sure they have everything exactly how they want it?

[Aetherius]

I thought there's already been a LA project, but maybe it was dumped. Anyhow, this is going to be a great project and I look forward to the results. More Zelda is never a bad thing. :)

If I were a remixer, I would definately want to get in on this project. But alas, I'm only just trying to learn. Maybe if I ever get good, I can start a project for some other game... *knows that will probably never happen*

*puts supporting image in sig* This project ROCKS.

Just wondering...if everyone gets done with their final versions before January 10, will you release it early or will you just give them the extra time to make sure they have everything exactly how they want it?

There WAS a Link's Awakening Project last year. I started it....but the thread died, and...almost all of the wips sucked poo-gas balloons.

Furthermore...
There is NO WAY everyone will be done before January tenth. You'll probably be waiting til at least march...

[prophetik music]

zomg three days

[Aetherius]

I've just added Haydn to the list for Tal Tal Heights. Let's all hope he'll be able to do the song justice.

[prophetik music]

Encare Relicario.

That's the name of my piece, Aeth. I think that works.

anyone speak french and know how to say it? =)

who is this haydn dude, anyways? he's not in the member listing. i tried to pm him, and came up with nothing.

[Hylian Lemon]

There is NO WAY everyone will be done before January tenth. You'll probably be waiting til at least march...
Crap. March?

Well, I'll be expecting some great quality remixes then. :)

Encare Relicario? Can't say I know how to say that, much less what it means.

[Eposhark]

Encare Relicario... Sure doesn't sound French. More like Latin or Italian if you ask me.

[Aetherius]

Encare Relicario... Sure doesn't sound French. More like Latin or Italian if you ask me.

Agreed. Not french

[The Joker]

Prophet, his name is Hadyn. He's pretty good, I think he'll do Tal Tal justice.

[Aetherius]

Shove an LAproject Sig in there!

[Hadyn]

who is this haydn dude, anyways? he's not in the member listing. i tried to pm him, and came up with nothing.

Probably because it's spelt Hadyn ;)

I just found this thread, sorry I didn't get a chance to post earlier.

I was contacted by epo about joining the project, and recently I created a short demo, which I assume he passed on to you guys?

Well yeah, I'd like to be part of the project. On the other hand I live a very busy life sometimes, so if I don't get it done in time there's not much that can be done about it. I will, however, try my best to make it before all the deadlines.

Assuming you've heard my demo, I'd like to know what you thought of it?

Cheers,

~Hadyn

edit: Just noticed joker already cleared up the mistake with my name. Thanks!

[Aetherius]

didn't I tell epo to tell you what I thought of it?

[Eposhark]

Didn't Epo live on another continent and has to sleep too ? :-)

Anyway, welcome to the project Hadyn, your song will rock :-)

[Hadyn]

Thanks, I hope to impress :)

[prophetik music]

Encare Relicario... Sure doesn't sound French. More like Latin or Italian if you ask me.

Agreed. Not french

actually, it's a direct translation of 'Face Shrine' into french, according to freetranslation.com...actually, i just checked it, and it's Spanish, not french. the french translation is something gay-sounding - stupid fag french.

hadyn, check your pm box.

[PriZm]

Actually, the French translation given by this site 'faire face au sanctuaire' means 'to face the shrine' and not Face Shrine. Face Shrine would be 'Le Sanctuaire du Visage' or 'L'autel du Visage' or 'Le Temple du Visage'

[prophetik music]

Actually, the French translation given by this site 'faire face au sanctuaire' means 'to face the shrine' and not Face Shrine. Face Shrine would be 'Le Sanctuaire du Visage' or 'L'autel du Visage' or 'Le Temple du Visage'

that's what i figured. it didn't really make much sense in my limited amount of french i know. Eh...i like Encare Relicaro better anyways. Spanish was my first second language (if you know what i mean), so it rolls off the tongue easier for me.

and how did i know you'd respond to me saying something about the french?

[PriZm]

maybe because of the 'stupid fag french' reference :P

[Aetherius]

Quebecois Unite!

...Wait, I'm not from Quebec.

Anyway, heh, Let's try some Latin instead. I prefer that qua sound to the hard ca sound

[prophetik music]

maybe because of the 'stupid fag french' reference :P

i didn't even remember putting that in there...

i can't translate shrine to latin. Face is Visio, but the word 'shrine' i can't find a translation for. anyone want to try their hand at it?

edit - Or any other language. the welsh, norwegian, and finnish translations are really interesting (you have to change 'shrine' to 'temple' on a few of them, i think)

[KWarp]

Me again, haven't recorded anything recent lately, but here's something the String Quartet I'm in did last month: Clicky! (http://www.kwarp.com/mp3s/sq.mp3)

Yes, we have mad skillz. =3

[Monobrow]

WIP day...Hmmm, well you guys already have my WIP, so bleh. If you need a link to it or anything, just let me know, I will be on later most likely. Anyway, I haven't really had a chance to work on it much lately, (deadlines for school), but when Christmas Break comes, I will have some time to finish it up.

And uh, I guess a small bump. :)

Edit: Also, I just noticed, but LA project sig is HUGE...would you guys mind if I made a smaller one, or resized that one, so it would fit in next to my Kirby Superstar Sig, just wondering. Thanks.

[Eposhark]

Monobrow : Making that sig smaller (as in : resizing the current version) would be pointless, because it wouldn't be readable. The only thing you can see then is the Link and the Zelda logo. If you look REALLY closely, maybe you could read "Link's Awakening Project". You are free to resize your own one, to make it fit next to the Milkyway Wishes one, but making a smaller one would demand too much time I don't have right now.

I based the size of the sig mainly on the Chrono Symphonic sig size. I didn't think most people would be participating in different projects, it seems I was wrong.

Furthermore, taking Latin names as Starky proposed is a good idea if you ask me. The Latin language fits somewhat in the genre restrictions he set. But then we have two possibilities : 1. Take your official song name (e.g. Face Shrine, Mr Write House), and translate it to Latin, or 2. Think of a title for your song (Lid of the Sleepers Eye, Mysterious Shizzle (lol)), and translate that to Latin.

Or we could just let everyone do as they please, obviously. I'm not the one to decide about that, however.

Bottom Line : Try to idle in our IRC Channel as much as you can people ! This is mainly directed to mixers, but everyone is welcome.

[prophetik music]

because of the crap internet at the college I'm at, mIRC basically is blocked in the firewall that the tech department has set up...meaning, i'm not able to idle there just about at all. i can show up and chill once in a while, but usually it doesn't work. just fyi.

[Aetherius]

If you can't get on IRC, you can reach me trhough AIM.
DrFrankenPhreak

Usually, I'll be around to say something like 'meh, don't pay attention to what I just said' or something like that.


Important news!
Well, it's time to release wips.

And by release, I mean 'not hide' as opposed to 'give away.' That said, We're not actually going to suddenly open the floodgates and allow all the remixes to fall into your lap.
NO!

We are in fact going to do nothing. Yes. Nothing.

The remixers in this project are now free to post their remix wips in the wip forums here, alongside this project, and also to host their wips on vgmix or wherever.

That said, Any NEW wips as of today Can be posted here (that's not compulsory, though.)

Keep in mind though, that in posting your wips to places where others can comment on them, where I can't see the comments, is likely to get you comments or ideas that I may think...are not worth using.
Use your better judgement, of course. What sort of thing have you been making, and what sort of thing fits into the project's guidelines, and what sort of thing do other people want to hear? I don't think I need to say that the first two elements are more important than the third, for the moment.

Obviously you'll want to make something that others want to hear, yes, but don't go overhauling your song. As usual, I will still be putting my foot down every now and then to say 'holy crap, that rhodes might as well have been puked up by phil collins and used in a disney movie.' because I really fucking hate Rhodes keyboards. However, there's no accounting for taste, and you've all signed an invisible contract to say that despite there not being any accounting for taste, you will have to account for mine. The end.

On a sadder note, Mr. Douggles, aka SgtRama aka Ramaniscence has decided that he will be unable to continue with the project for reasons of interestinghood. We shall see what becomes of them...*Strokes imaginary beard* in the meantime, I am forced to strike him from the list, and open up the Mysterious woods track for anyone interested. I had thought about droppping it and replacing it with Mr. Write, but as yet, I fear I will have to leave it open. After all, it is an important track.

So once again, Mysterious woods is now free, SgtRama has droped the project, and you are free to release your wips.

[Aetherius]

I've just given KungFuChicken the Mysterious Woods theme, and now the Last battle is free.

[Aetherius]

Bump.

Someone pay attention to us! We're cool, right?

[ShinnyMetal]

we are so totally friggin awesome...I..think

[Hylian Lemon]

Well, you're way cooler than I'll ever be.

Yay WIPs!

I love the last battle theme. Why is it open?? :? *cries*

[Rexy]

Because it's not a popular choice, we think O_o

I'm still working on mine; getting a little rough considering my going home situation on friday, but we'll see what happens from here.

Elements of composition are pushing on well on my side of the gray collab too, and I hope to have something presentable by this weekend.

[The Joker]

My parents totally think I'm cool.

[Eposhark]

My parents want more wips of the mixers. It's doesn't matter you got only a little further. It's just so we can listen to it, and then tell you if you own - or suckkckck.

I look forward to it.

[Aetherius]

that was one of the most bizarre posts ever...

Make mixes. Join the project. I'll love you forever. maybe.

[Spc1st]

Well, if you are still taking participants, I can give the Last Boss theme a shot if no one else wants to.

[prophetik music]

Well, if you are still taking participants, I can give the Last Boss theme a shot if no one else wants to.

hey, another RA mixer!

[Aetherius]

Well, if you are still taking participants, I can give the Last Boss theme a shot if no one else wants to.

got an audition piece?

[Aetherius]

doublepost'd!

uhm, News:
Spc1st, after showing me a rather nice arrangement of one of my favourite themesongs from one of my favourite shows that made me cry like a baby has been given the Last battle.

Now, just so everyone knows...we still don't have anybody doing turtle rock...Which means....I'll probably have to do it myself.

Just for the record, if any of you have songs that are overly repetitive, rather than seek to find ways that will make the song be not as repetitive, an alternative method would also be to make your remix short. This would allow us to fit all of the 18 tracks we have so far fit onto one CD. That said....don't all of you go shortening your songs on me, jerks.

I've already mentioned to shinnymetal that he ought to shorten some parts of his, and I know that if I'm forced to do turtle rock, it'll probably end up being pretty short too.

so, everyone do your best. Gao.

[Lumpy_Otaku]

any idea when this will be finished?

[Hylian Lemon]

He said probably around March. :P

Hopefully a little sooner, though.

[Aetherius]

any idea when this will be finished?

*shakes fist* It'll be finished when people take the empty songs and finish them!

[Hadyn]

When you say "short", what time do you mean, roughly?

Like, 3 mins? Or shorter? 2? What's the shortest a mix should be?

Mine should fairly easily break 3 mins, but I'm just curious to know for sure.

[Aetherius]

When Isay short, I mean between about 2 and a half minutes to 6 minutes. Longer than six minutes is bordering on hogging everyone else's time.

[Lumpy_Otaku]

I can't wait until this is finished. Best of luck finding people to fill empty slots.

[The Joker]

Mine is around... 3:09 right now. It's fairly minimalist, & ambient. I haven't settled on percussion yet, but I'm thinking filtered spy-ish drums. Anyway, it's past the 3 minute mark.

[Aetherius]

I'd say everyone should shoot for around 4 minutes, give or take.

[Spc1st]

Well, I'll get the ball rolling I guess - here's what I've sketched out of the Last Battle remix so far:

The bright-side of insomnia (http://www.snipamasta.co.uk/hosted/Spc1st/Music/MP3s/Last%20Battle%20Draft.mp3) :P

[Aetherius]

Well. The thing about that mix is that it's well arranged...but it's using some really...not good horn sounds. The drums are alright, but as I usually end up finding myself saying...Almost all of this stuff sounds like a General MIDI soundbank. ...Unless of course...it was your plan to write in midi first...

Either Way, I think if you gave your project files (depending on what you're using to make this) to someone-- i.e. me-- they could switch up some of the sounds so that they come out sounding less synthesized.
I also think that some of your brass stabs could be replaced by a live guitar, if someone else were interested....i.e. me.

Of course, if this is just preliminary, allow me to add ketchup to the foot in my mouth.

[Spc1st]

Funny you should mention that - nearly all the samples were actually from the Konkakt 2 Libary (the percussion sets used Sam Demos, and the ensemble strings is some freebie I've found somewhere). I guess it might be that I haven't quite gotten the hang of effectively using them - especially the VSL ones with their "stuffy" ambience and perhaps overly specialized articulations; I've stuck with the "sfz" ones for the brass hits for convenience, though I'll try to see if the other articulations provide for more realism.

I'm using Sonar to make this, but here's the MIDI version (http://www.snipamasta.co.uk/hosted/Spc1st/Music/MIDIs/Last%20Battle-GM.mid) (stripped of the non-GM percussion).

As for the guitar thing, if you can pull off those chords, give it a try and we can see how turns out.

[Ichitootah]

You're capable of much more than this sound quality and much richer texture with Kontakt 2. The composition sounds good, I don't know what to say really. Needs more equalizing and effects work most likely, but pretty good job so far with the arrangement.

[Chris McGee]

WIP (http://www.gporter.net/chris/music/Catfish's%20Maw_3.mp3)

Very sorry it's a week late, I've been ridiculously busy with Christmas-related things. :(

[Dafydd]

any idea when this will be finished?

*shakes fist* It'll be finished when people take the empty songs and finish them!

From the look of the first page, all of the songs are taken... except maybe "Turtle Rock", so if that's the case, I'm willing to give it a try. Giving it a listen, I really like the song, and I'm surprised noone else has picked it already... Here's some of my previous (although mostly unfinished) work:

vgmix page (http://www.vgmix.com/search.php?username=Dafydd&show_songs=1&wip=1) (Turtle Rock WiP "Sköldpaddsklippan" here)

older stuff (http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26UD6NFLV8X4B16HL913DC9RH9) (Note that Wave2 uses a drum loop sample while as Wave3 does not)

Orchestral (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NV1BL37UM1O81095NBK351I3D), in case you want a sample of that too.

I realize most of this doesn't have the "melancholy" feel to it or wouldn't work well to study too, but I can change. The problem is that the song itself gives me a rather haunting and stressful feel, which makes me lean into the same style as used in system shock 2... It doesn't sound like the song's gonna fit into that relaxing feel without some pretty heavy modification... but slowing it down might help somewhat.

Beware that some of my above work is rather old. I'd look forward to doing some electronica again, instead of the rather futile rock attemps above... Gimme a go and I'll have a WiP for you before christmas eve. Now that christmas is here and I'll be outta school this wednesday, I'll have a considerable lot of more free time on my hands.

EDIT: I couldn't help myself from making a WiP tonight... a very early, and possibly completely wrongful one, that I'm sure won't please everyone. It's on the VGmix page. It's my first song ever using reason, which I got from a friend this very night. Consider the style of the WiP so far to be what could be the very heaviest part of the entire finished song, stylewise. The rest will probably be softer and more ambient. The entire song could easily be made slower if necessary. I'm considering it already. Also - I'm aware that the bassline doesn't follow the gbs exactly, which gives it a rather different feel. I will include both this varation and the original one alternatingly in the final song. I'll probably finish this, be it part of the project or not.

EDIT AGAIN: I added some reverb to the drums and the bass, which improved the song considerably, imho. Unfortunately, VGMix won't let me update until tomorrow, so here's another link (http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NPH34BRYLRI9235QHPL5J12C8).

Looks like I've been doing this wrong from the start... I've based the song key on the second harp note instead of the first one, so my basslines are 2 semitones up from what they should be. Changing everything back seems unreasonable, though. There's just too much dissonance. (note that this isn't a problem in the GBS, I think it's my new harp lead that kinda screws it up...) The harp plays a scale of B, C#, F, G and putting the bass note to B here just shreds my ears here because there's both a diminished fifth and a minor sixth in the same chord (try playing the notes on a piano and you'll see). Doing it my way, putting the bass note to C#, there's a major third instead of a minor sixth, which makes for a chord that doesn't clash with the bass note as badly as the first. Unless others consider this change a huge problem for whatever reason, I'll keep my new chords. I'll try to let the original song play at some point (with the correct notes).

Writing all this is all assuming you'll let me in on this, but you seemed less than happy about having to mix this track yourself and there doesn't seem to be anyone else around to do it... If you don't like the style of song at all, go ahead and tell me, and I'll try something else.

[Aetherius]

hmm, I'm not particularly looking for Relaxing.

I'm looking for atmospheric music.
I think the wip's okay, so far...but I'm not sure if I like it as a project piece quite yet. I'm not so big on that big crunchy synth you're using as a bass, as sometimes when it goes low, it loses its melodicness and just plays the same note when it's not supposed to.

I'm not going to give this the oficial Okay yet.
Let's see what other people have to say about it...

[Dafydd]

I'm not particularily happy about the bass, either. I would have liked something more distorted, but still not so synthy and, like you said, crunchy. It's one of the easier things to change though, once I find something better to replace it with. I was more worried about being all wrong on the atmosphere part. Or that I was making the completely wrong kind of music. But, yeah, let your team have their say.

[Eposhark]

I'm kinda part of the project, although I'm not a mixer. Furthermore, my opinion regarding music doesn't really count, because I know nothing of it, but I'll give it anyway :

The bass doesn't please me either. Especially at 00:29 (when the bass comes into play first), the introduction of the bass is too sudden. I also think the bass should never dominate over the lead melody, which it kinda does at this point, after 00:30 that is. Also, the "roaring" sounds, like a really low electric guitar (I think that's what Stark meant with Big Crunchy Synth ?) seems really out of place. In the original piece, something like a pizzicato is used as part of the bass, maybe you can try such a thing ?

Hope it's a little helpful. I cannot say wether this track is potentially project worthy or not, though.

[Dafydd]

Everything is sudden in this wip... nothing's finished, nothing's definite. The idea was to use a few minutes to build up the urge for a beat or something heavier, but I'm not happy with hardly anything... except the new harp lead I made and how the main melody suddenly becomes the background when the drums come in and echoes forward when the bass isn't playing... again, this is supposed to be the heaviest part of the song, and not to be dominating the entirety of it. I was thinking of using pizzicato, too... But once the drums come in, which should be at around past 2 or 3 minutes into the song, you'd want something more than pizzicato for a bass. And then I really think the drums and bass should sort of dominate the song at that point, or it'll sound really weird, having the heavier parts in the background... The alternative would be a remix of strictly orchestral nature, which I think would be a very strange approach to the source material. I also think there's only so much you could do with it if it were to be a rock arrangement, although I'd like to introduce some rock elements to what I'm doing now as well.

If you dislike the whole idea, I'll scrap it. And if you find someone who can do it better, or if Aetherius thinks he can, and wants to, that's how it should be. :) I'm doing this in part because I want to help, and in part because of the glory that comes with being in a remix project. If my work doesn't help the project, then it doesn't belong. That said, I'm asking you for further constructive critisism, helpful opinions and suggestions before declining my offer. I'm also not saying you should let me in on the project until you are convinced that the end result is actually going to be something you like.

Remember, it's a wip...

[Spc1st]

I really like the delayed/reverberated harp parts - it really adds an ethereal and evasive feel to the piece. But when the bass and amen break comes in, the mood quickly is punctured into a much more straightforward and generic feel. I'm not saying that you can't have a more conventional section somewhere in the piece, but let the first section comfortably establish itself and develop first some more before moving on.

[Dafydd]

That's the idea.

[Aetherius]

Remember, I wasn't saying rock OR orchestral OR electronic, I was saying Rock, orchestral, and electronic AS ONE. Like...put them together if you can.

also, unless you're making DnB...the drums and bass probably shouldn't be the main focus of your piece...I mean...melody's what it's all about...otherwise it's not a song.

UPDATE:

Just so everyone knows, I'm going away for christmas in approximately 13 minutes...which means I'll be away from my own personal computer for about 2 weeks.
I'll try to check up on the thread, but I probably won't be around nearly as much.

I want everyone to work as hard as possible on getting done by January 10th. I will be suspending the deadline for a few people I've already spoken to, but I'm expecting anybody who signed up before the beginning of december to be relatively close to being done in January sometime.

Please post wips as you work on the song, so I can follow along with your progress. I want everyone to be actively commenting and being constructive.

Finally, spread the word, yo. Nobody cares about us! Spread the word!

[prophetik music]

Remember, I wasn't saying rock OR orchestral OR electronic, I was saying Rock, orchestral, and electronic AS ONE. Like...put them together if you can.

also, unless you're making DnB...the drums and bass probably shouldn't be the main focus of your piece...I mean...melody's what it's all about...otherwise it's not a song.

UPDATE:

Just so everyone knows, I'm going away for christmas in approximately 13 minutes...which means I'll be away from my own personal computer for about 2 weeks.
I'll try to check up on the thread, but I probably won't be around nearly as much.

I want everyone to work as hard as possible on getting done by January 10th. I will be suspending the deadline for a few people I've already spoken to, but I'm expecting anybody who signed up before the beginning of december to be relatively close to being done in January sometime.

Please post wips as you work on the song, so I can follow along with your progress. I want everyone to be actively commenting and being constructive.

Finally, spread the word, yo. Nobody cares about us! Spread the word!

I care

[Aetherius]

Anyway, I think what we need is for dafydd to give us a further progressed wip with more done to see whether it'll be okay. I think It could be alright in terms of sound quality, but style and mood are important.

[Hadyn]

Agreed. I'm not quite feeling it yet, but if he takes it a little further it'll become clearer whether this idea can really work or not ^^

[Dafydd]

Give me a few days and I'll try to present you with something... more presentable.

To be honest, this is really the first song I've made that has a sound quality that I'm content with myself. I've been stuck with soundfonts and cakewalk so far, and even though I was often pleased with my work as far as arrangement goes, the sound quality always sucked. In the spur of the joy of the sound quality of reason, I just blasted away with all I had. I'll try not to let you down, although, of course, my WiP won't be perfect, either... :)

EDIT: I just gave USA's mix a listen... and... I'd really like to know what exactly it was that you didn't like about it, so I don't make the same mistakes...

[Aetherius]

I HATE rhodes keyboards, and furthermore, his drums were subpar in terms of sound quality. Apart from his inability to enjoy and embrace my extreme dislike for those two things, my opinion is that his song being pulled was the result of misunderstanding, and his own swollen pride. No, I'm not talking about a penis.

Furthermore, Merry Christmas, Thread. Your present is a bump that you don't deserve.

[prophetik music]

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY AND ALSO AETH

[Dafydd]

Merry christmas to you, too. Ok, I'll leave the rhodes out. I actually had some in my very original version... Although they were a lot more jazzy/funky than those of USA's. Plus, they were mostly there to give the harps a fuller sound. But I'll leave them out. They don't go very well with the atmosphere I'm aiming for right now anyway... :)

[Benjamin Briggs]

Hey, I like the chorus you applied to the drum beat in the later version, but you should fade it in and out like every four bars. As in, have the beat start straight and clean and then morph into the fuller chorused beat and back again over a span of eight bars. If you're using FL, automating the chorus effect's volume from 0-100% would do the trick quite nicely. You could also add some light distortion to the beat, make the bass less stereo and more centered, make the harp part louder so it's more of a focus, and add some countermelodies on a synth or something similar. You could even add like, tribal drums or something.

At least that's what I would do. :)

-chth

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

dafydd, I can record guitar for you instead of that god awful sample you are using lol :)

[Benjamin Briggs]

He means that he can replace your bass synth with a real distorted guitar.

GOOD IDEA IN MY BOOK.

-chth

[prophetik music]

dafydd, I can record guitar for you instead of that god awful sample you are using lol :)
how are you feeling?

[Dafydd]

All of these are good ideas. I'm not sure what kind of electric guitar I'd want though, preferrably a distorted bass. I haven't had the opportunity to try anything yet. Expect an update tomorrow.

[Eposhark]

Sooo... How is everyone's song coming along?

[Ichitootah]

January 10th eh? Wow... I'd better get working.

[PriZm]

All of these are good ideas. I'm not sure what kind of electric guitar I'd want though, preferably a distorted bass. I haven't had the opportunity to try anything yet. Expect an update tomorrow.

well I do have a 7-string

[Hadyn]

I think jan 10 is an old date. It better be an old date. I'm not going to make it otherwise.

I'm struggling to finish all my work for Project Chaos first, and I've officially put my work for this project aside for the time being. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to finish this mix... just not in the next ten days... And I'm in the final two months of my diploma, so there's a lot of work for me to focus on there, aswell. So yeah, Jan 10 is not good.

[Aetherius]

I will be suspending the deadline for a few people I've already spoken to, but I'm expecting anybody who signed up before the beginning of december to be relatively close to being done in January sometime.


Quit your whining.

[Hadyn]

Haha, Project Directors always have such an aura of gentleness floating about them.

[Aetherius]

my venomous spines are ever so soft...just like a young woman's breast, except it's sharp, poisonous, and not at all pleasant.

now everyone quit celebrating and get back to work.

[Dafydd]

To some of them, gentleness is a necessity... although it comes naturally, most of the time. :)!!

[Aetherius]

Happy new year thread.

I hope the rest of you aren't alone and depressed like I am.

[SirRus]

could you all use any more mixers for the extended tracklisting or IS YOU FULL

[Aetherius]

Gimme some of that SirRus-y goodness...You know the rules, right?

[SirRus]

da rules? like make good music? or the part about nostalgia/ambient/orchestral/rock/melancholy/fusion... I read the first post and related links

I don't know if this WIP fits da rules, please clarify by yaying or naying the progress/approach of this GLORIFIED HEN HOUSE REMIX:

http://students.ou.edu/S/Ravi.U.Sharma-1/SirRusHENHOUSEWIP.mp3

[Aetherius]

Well, that was reasonable...
I'm a bit iffy on the drums being so hard, though. Might just be a volume issue for me, though.

I see you've altered the song by making it minor. It's not what I would have done, but I think it works. You can have it.

[SirRus]

hmmm youre right... the drums and whatnot don't capture the theme all that well, I'll look into it and change it up some. I should make it sound more like my Lufia II song I have on the WIP forum right now.

Edit - updizzled same link, new drums, thats all for now

[Eposhark]

5 days from Final Day ! Where are all those mixes?

[prophetik music]

i'll be uploading a revised version of my song soon to vgmix, and i'll put the link on this site. I played with some volumes, and added some piano at the end. Also, i fixed some problems with the double bass part.

where the heck are all those wips we were supposed to have?

EDIT - Facies Templum (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=5384) - this is officially the final version of my version of 'Face Shrine'. i'm assuming you guys will upload this to whatever server we're using?

[Rexy]

Because Gray has obviously been missing in action since the track between us was chosen, the interpretation of Inside the Egg hasn't been started yet. I know, that's kinda disappointing but I'm sure we can get something set in the coming month.

I will at least finish up my Eagle Tower material this week. That, I can easily assure. Thank God for returning to campus.

[Dafydd]

Hi

assuming I'm still under consideration, here's an update (http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2VYNBZQQE9CUB28QMNXT9ETUCA). VGMIX is being stupid so I'm stuck with these yousendit links for now. Save the file on your disk so you won't have to dl it again, I think it'll only work for 10 downloads or something... make sure the coordinator gets a copy. ... Heck, if the first one expires, use this one (http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0SRF107KN6K5O2KGJZUBCLSQYJ), instead... That should allow everyone interested one download each. I'm going away for at least a week and a half, but I'll be able to continue when I get back and have the song finished at the end of January. I've been trying to listen to everyone's advice, and now it's all just basically limited by knowledge of the software...

This is not finished at all yet... but it's more complete than my last WiP. It's a little loud and stuff... and the ending sucks. The song still has a lot of issues, but I'll fix them... soon. Comments are welcome, of course. Whether I'm in or not.

[Eposhark]

I'm currently working on a page to keep track of all of your mixes. This means that you don't have to go through the trouble of uploading your song anymore : I'll do it for you.

I won't give the URL of the page yet because it's not done, and things would only get confusing otherwise.

So if you have a wip, please rename it to something like "Name - laproject - mixname.mp3", and send it to me. There are several ways :

1. Through DCC, but you have to come to our IRC channel then.
2. Add me on msn : eposhark@hotmail.comNOSPAM
3. Send it to my emailaddress : eposhark@telenet.beNOSPAM
4. Upload it elsewhere for me to download, and give me the link.

If things don't work out, just post here and i'll help you.

NOW GIMME MIXEZZZ 1111

(PS : Yes Prophet, your mix will also be uploaded, that's the purpose of the thing I'll be making.)

[Eposhark]

Alright people, here is the link : http://epo.runningman.be/

So if you have WIP's, gimme ! If you have comments on the site (mistakes and the like) let me know.

[ShinnyMetal]

T_T god damnit, my dad is so delaying his part, its due in two days, and my dad still hasn't recorded the guitar...the last damn thing...he has been putting this off for a month

[Bongo Bill]

I would like to mirror this project when it is complete.

[Aetherius]

Dafydd, I think it's safe to say you're on the project.
I think the bassey cello thing you're using might be too loud, but the bass that comes in with the drums is fine. I like the whole thing, really.

[Eposhark]

I would like to mirror this project when it is complete.

That's a great idea ! But chances are that the project itself will be distributed via the BitTorrent system. However, we will also have a standalone site, with links to the files, comments from the author and such. I plan do it like this then :

Author - Song - Download1 Download2

Where Author is a popuplink with info on the author, Song is a popuplink with info on the song itself, and DL1 is my mirror, and DL2 is your mirror.

So if you want to help this project out, there are 3 things you can do : You can seed the project in BitTorrent, you can host all the files seperately, and you can host a zipfile of all the songs.

[prophetik music]

has anyone heard from EonBlue lately about possibly having artwork for the site? maybe a frontend that looks a little better than black and green?

that said, nice job epo - it's nice to have a central site.

[Eposhark]

Last time I asked (some days ago) he hadn't worked on it since that version. I guess that's because he's unsure wether we even want a site, and how we want it.

Stark should have a discussion with about it.

That said, Rexy and KungFuChicken have a new wip, check them out : http://epo.runningman.be/

edit : added KFC wip.

[Bongo Bill]

I would like to mirror this project when it is complete.

That's a great idea ! But chances are that the project itself will be distributed via the BitTorrent system. However, we will also have a standalone site, with links to the files, comments from the author and such. I plan do it like this then :

Author - Song - Download1 Download2

Where Author is a popuplink with info on the author, Song is a popuplink with info on the song itself, and DL1 is my mirror, and DL2 is your mirror.

So if you want to help this project out, there are 3 things you can do : You can seed the project in BitTorrent, you can host all the files seperately, and you can host a zipfile of all the songs.

PM me with a link to the zip archive about a day before release and I'll host the individual files and the zip and have the links for all of them sent back to you as soon as I can. Send me the torrent as soon as it's up on the tracker and I'll start downloading from there, too.

[The Joker]

Although I'm all for a central site, I think we should refrain from posting finished, or close to finished songs publicly. That just really goes against the purpose of releasing a project, & is more in line with just releasing stand alone songs.

Just my opinion.

[Aetherius]

...Actually, I agree with Joker....perhaps we shall discuss it tomorrow in greater detail, folk.

[Ichitootah]

Passwords! Exclusively passed out to only the most privileged of members!

[Bongo Bill]

Once a song is complete or nears completion, the poster takes down all the files and doesn't link to the finished version. Big-shot project people can get a PM containing the file's location. Mirrors get links to the files as soon as the project is ready for release.

Simple.

[prophetik music]

bongo bill's idea works, methinks.

[Eposhark]

Yup, I got it, my mistake.

So anyone who wants Prophet's song, just ask me and you'll get it. But that also means he has to take it down on Vgmix, right ?

[Rexy]

Just out of question, did you receive Eagle Tower from me last night, Epo? If not I could PM you the link again :)

[Aetherius]

Hmmm, I like your arrangement, rexy, but I feel like your piano sounds too clinky, I don't know if you can do anything about that. And, I'm hoping that you'll be doing a bit more about dynamics in the melody (I can hear dynamics in the background parts...)

Meh, keep it up.

p.s. You KNOWS I love a lot of reverb in the Rizzazz!

[Eposhark]

Just out of question, did you receive Eagle Tower from me last night, Epo? If not I could PM you the link again :)

Yeah, I received it just fine, it's already up on the wip space : http://epo.runningman.be

[Rexy]

I appreciate the feedback Starky, even though with the way this is going the January 10 deadline may not quite fully work out :P

Still I have a few questions. When you mention something about doing more to the "dynamics" do you want me to apply a wider field of dynamics or a smaller one?

And concerning the piano sound, I kept on wondering what people mean when they say it's "clinky". Nonetheless I'm restricted to Cubase SX and not much soundfonts for it out there, and whichever I used won't seem to adapt to the sustain pedal settings, which I think is real make or break over this. Still, if you're referring to a harsh attack I can soften it a few notches pretty easily.

Again, thanks so far :)

[Aetherius]

Yeah, I meant a wider range. there are times when I think it should be quieter. For example, the faster section is all out loud, when I think it could be more subtle.

the clinkyness I'm referring to is to do with the harsh attack, yes. If possible try softening it. Sometimes, when my pianos sound too clunky, I put a filter on them that cuts out some of the highs and mids.

[Rexy]

Also, I've finally been able to extract the MIDI data for my side to "Inside the Egg" with Gray. Just out of question, are MIDIs allowed as appropriate file types for WIP submissions? :?

[Aetherius]

only as an indication of arrangement...since they're not indicative of sound quality...or even instrumentation

[prophetik music]

i just listened to shinny's wip...i've gotta say, there are a few issues but i am very much impressed. great job, shinny/shiny/whatever the heck your name is.

[ShinnyMetal]

i just listened to shinny's wip...i've gotta say, there are a few issues but i am very much impressed. great job, shinny/shiny/whatever the heck your name is.

^^ thank you very much, well it is finished now, (shinny btw, technicly shiny, but >_< whatever) the fished should sound better


so, if you could tell me the issues, so that i could better myself, i would be very pleased ^^

[The Joker]

Dude... I'd keep the final away from public eyes. Plus you linked to Prophet's song.

[prophetik music]

i just listened to shinny's wip...i've gotta say, there are a few issues but i am very much impressed. great job, shinny/shiny/whatever the heck your name is.

^^ thank you very much, well it is finished now, (shinny btw, technicly shiny, but >_< whatever) the fished should sound better

The finished is better BTW (unless you heared it )

so, if you could tell me the issues, so that i could better myself, i would be very pleased ^^

damn you, don't post the final products!

but thanks. and i did listen to the final version, actually. now EDIT YOUR POST!

[ShinnyMetal]

i just listened to shinny's wip...i've gotta say, there are a few issues but i am very much impressed. great job, shinny/shiny/whatever the heck your name is.

^^ thank you very much, well it is finished now, (shinny btw, technicly shiny, but >_< whatever) the fished should sound better

The finished is better BTW (unless you heared it )

so, if you could tell me the issues, so that i could better myself, i would be very pleased ^^

damn you, don't post the final products!

but thanks. and i did listen to the final version, actually. now EDIT YOUR POST!

._. I didn't know...I ahven't been active much

[prophetik music]

i just listened to shinny's wip...i've gotta say, there are a few issues but i am very much impressed. great job, shinny/shiny/whatever the heck your name is.

^^ thank you very much, well it is finished now, (shinny btw, technicly shiny, but >_< whatever) the fished should sound better

The finished is better BTW (unless you heared it )

so, if you could tell me the issues, so that i could better myself, i would be very pleased ^^

damn you, don't post the final products!

but thanks. and i did listen to the final version, actually. now EDIT YOUR POST!

._. I didn't know...I ahven't been active much

s'okay. i shouldn't have shouted. sorry =)

[ShinnyMetal]

i just listened to shinny's wip...i've gotta say, there are a few issues but i am very much impressed. great job, shinny/shiny/whatever the heck your name is.

^^ thank you very much, well it is finished now, (shinny btw, technicly shiny, but >_< whatever) the fished should sound better

The finished is better BTW (unless you heared it )

so, if you could tell me the issues, so that i could better myself, i would be very pleased ^^

damn you, don't post the final products!

but thanks. and i did listen to the final version, actually. now EDIT YOUR POST!

._. I didn't know...I ahven't been active much

s'okay. i shouldn't have shouted. sorry =)

thats ok, well yours is great also ^^

[prophetik music]

bump. how are those wips coming?

[Rexy]

I passed a fourth demo of Eagle Tower to Epo, however he hasn't seen my damn message yet :o

And I passed my half of Inside the Egg to Gray. Should anything else stir up, this topic will be the first to know.

[Eposhark]

I only have these 3 wips of you Rexy : http://epo.runningman.be/Rexy/

It seems you PM'ed me it, 3 new messages, oops. I never noticed heh

Sorry :-) I'll put them up.

[ShinnyMetal]

rawr...

your guys' stuff is comming along fantastic ^^ keep up the good work!!

[Aetherius]

I've asked The Prophet of Mephisto to look into doing a second song, and I may do the same thing myself, once I get done with the SSF2T project's remix. This will help to even out the tracklisting. That said, don't go trying to do a second song if you're done. Wait until I ask you.

[prophetik music]

i'm looking hard at bottle grotto, but don't quote me at that.

[The Joker]

I'm almost finished with mh mix! The next one I send to Starky will most likely be the final... unless he tells me otherwise. But yeah, home stretch!

[Spc1st]

I ended up scrapping my previous draft and started over from scratch. So far, it's still fairly rough, and length-wise it only about hits the half-way mark. Since the balance is a mess, I've kept it in MIDI for now. And yeh, I've used a lot of guitars this time ;). 2nd Draft (http://www.snipamasta.co.uk/hosted/Spc1st/Music/MIDIs/Battle.mid)

[prophetik music]

so, when are we planning on this project to be done?

mixers, how much longer? i can't wait to hear this project completed.

[Rexy]

If I get no tech feedback concerning Eagle Tower I consider that as done compositionally. Any feedback that I do get however will be taken into consideration for the final version.

[Aetherius]

If I get no tech feedback concerning Eagle Tower I consider that as done compositionally. Any feedback that I do get however will be taken into consideration for the final version.


woops, I missed your new wip in the sway of things. I'll give you some feedback later today.

[Ichitootah]

Bigger, better, shinnier(lol), it's my new WIP! Tell me if you like the transitions. I fixed up lots of minor issues and stuff too. I'm approaching final, but still planning to add a decent amount of content onto the end.

True, I haven't been working on this ALL that much. But it will turn out pretty good.

Soundclick sucks (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=270826&songID=3356579)

And cool database. :thumbsup:

[prophetik music]

Bigger, better, shinnier(lol), it's my new WIP! Tell me if you like the transitions. I fixed up lots of minor issues and stuff too. I'm approaching final, but still planning to add a decent amount of content onto the end.

True, I haven't been working on this ALL that much. But it will turn out pretty good.

Soundclick sucks (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=270826&songID=3356579)

And cool database. :thumbsup:

soundclick may suck, but i jsut got that downloaded in 2 seconds. not a bad server.
if i may offer forth some advice, the piano in the very beginning is too bassy, in my opinion, and could use some velocity work. good groove, though.

edit - also, i've got some severe distortion on my end cause it's too loud. just turn it down a little or something, please.

[Aetherius]

hmm, rexy, that's much better. Far less clunky, and it sounds like you made some parts a bit softer, which is nice.

Ichitootah, I like it, ...That transition with the piano back to the melody = me puking, and I'm sure you know it. I'm not too keen on just how jazzy that piano solo is, but I don't feel like bothering to ask you to change de-jazz it.

Spc1st, it's a cool intro, but...like...I can't hear the original in there...and...can you actually play the guitar? because...Sampled guitar is probably one of the sounds I hate most in this world, apart from rhodes...


That is all. Keep at it, my friends. Don't be discouraged. I'm being scathing on purpose.

[Spc1st]

Hmm, I was under the impression that you were offering to play the guitar parts...

As for references to the original, I'll try to make the melody for the first part sound similar to the original(I was trying to rely on the harmony and progression to suggest the original, but it might not be readily apparent). The 2nd part actually has a bit of the theme from the dungeon/boss battle parts too, if that's alright (I'm beginning to realize more and more how the original is very devoid of musicality, so I'm really stretching it). In between the sequenced parts, I'll also try to add more ambient-ish sampled sections, perhaps from the original recording itself. I'll try to get a better draft by this weekend.

[Eposhark]

@ Ichitootah : I have put up your wip at the wipspace (http://epo.runningman.be). Did the "% done" value change?

@ Sp1st : Good to know you're still working on the mix. As soon as you can record in into .mp3 (or .wma or .ogg or whatever, just not .mid), send me your song and I'll upload it on the wipspace. If you need live guitarplaying, you might ask GeoffreyTaucer.

@ Stark : sup

@ Prophet : When it will be done ? When it's done of course. When all the mixes are complete that is. And when the website is complete. AND when the mixes are complete. And if they are good. Considering only 2 mixes are done as of now (but 5 are near completion), I'm guessing 1-2 months.

[Aetherius]

Spc1st, well, whether the original is melodious or not, it's got to be recognizeable. can't just make up your own song and say 'there wasn't much to work with.'
That said, I'd try contacting PriZm about guitar for the part you've written. I know I can't play it at this point.

edit: my guitar playing style is very abstract and noisey...

[prophetik music]

I like PriZm. I might give him a ring about this Bottle Grotto thing...i'm having some trouble with it.

[Spc1st]

Spc1st, well, whether the original is melodious or not, it's got to be recognizeable. can't just make up your own song and say 'there wasn't much to work with.'
That said, I'd try contacting PriZm about guitar for the part you've written. I know I can't play it at this point.

edit: my guitar playing style is very abstract and noisey...

I was trying to avoid making it too much like the original by using more abstract methods (the main "motif" and slight variations of it actually persists almost constantly throughout the piece, in one form or another), and add more variety by putting in some original parts in between them, more to suggest the mood than the music, if you understand what I'm trying to stay.

Well, anyways, I tried to make the middle section more true to the original, though I don't know if you'd agree (the guitars are playing a somewhat butcher version of the bassline, while the strings are playing progressively augmenting canons of the "theme"). Here's the recording (http://www.snipamasta.co.uk/hosted/Spc1st/Music/OGGs/Last%20Battle%20Draft%203.ogg), though it's a quick bounce, not a lot of balancing and whatnot. I'd say it's probably about 2/3 finished.

[Dafydd]

Hi... I'm stuck with my old computer this week, I wasn't able to bring it with me to campus, and I can't continue working before I get it back here... I'm aiming for being done before february. :) I'd like more comments on my song... maybe some help as to how to clean up the sound somewhat... and recommendations on distortion in reason. I couldn't find a distorted sound I liked, but I want to distort the drums somewhat. Also, I'm not too happy with the bass I have right now. Maybe distortion could fix that as well... ?

[prophetik music]

PriZm will be helping me on my moody orchestral/rock influenced piece, fyi. we'll be doing bottle grotto. you can write that in stone.

[ShinnyMetal]

I wanna do another piece...mainly...because I ahve to occupy my time with something slightly constructive ._.



right-o...it would be neat cause I donno...but it would probably be different from my Key Cavern Remix...so you realy can't base it off that realy

[Aetherius]

Like I said. Wait for me to ask you to do it, don't go picking a song.

MAKE PROGRESS, FOOLS!

[Aetherius]

BUMP YOUR ASS!

[prophetik music]

actually, i just discovered that there isn't any melodic content in bottle grotto to speak of at all. so, richard's villa is looking like what we might do.

[Dafydd]

So much for writing stuff in stone. :wink:

[prophetik music]

So much for writing stuff in stone. :wink:
well, i'll still do a remix of bottle grotto for myself at some point...but there's nothing to remix but a series of tritones. i'm not gonna get anything tonal out of that.

besides, stone is broken all the time...and i honestly don't remember writing that post anyways :)

[Aetherius]

I was kinda hoping you'd take richard's villa. I can probably handle Bottle Grotto myself...since it will require MINIMAL effort....just a bunch of noise 'n shit.

[Eon_Blue]

Yeah, I'm still part of this, I've just had a minimal amount of time for anything as of late, and when I do get a chance to fire up the PC, I end up working on my own stuff.

But I'm still on board - I'll get something together soon, I promise.

[prophetik music]

Yeah, I'm still part of this, I've just had a minimal amount of time for anything as of late, and when I do get a chance to fire up the PC, I end up working on my own stuff.

But I'm still on board - I'll get something together soon, I promise.

when was the last time i mentioned i love this guys work?

[The Joker]

Ehy Starky, djou get my pm? I'm pretty sure I'm finished with my song, just need your approval.

[Chris McGee]

I'm doing some serious revisions on my song, as I felt it was lame. So mine might take a little longer than I thought, but I promise the result will be infinately cooler.

[prophetik music]

...djou...

JEW

[ShinnyMetal]

Like I said. Wait for me to ask you to do it, don't go picking a song.

MAKE PROGRESS, FOOLS!

I know..I just realy had to say something since i hadn't for a while, seeing as I realy do want to, I don't need to for a bit since I am working on a original project as of the moment

[The Joker]

Djou sounds like Jew... but is french for "Have you?"

[Aetherius]

Joker, I'm getting some clipping on the strings in the second half (around 2:20). They could probably stand to have lowered volume and maybe a little bit of filtering to cut out the higher shelf.

[The Joker]

That may not be clipping, I'll give it a second look, but I'm pretty sure it's the distortion I added. I wanted them to have some fuzz so I added Fruity Dist to it.

[prophetik music]

supabump.

that said, when's the website gonna be updated?

[Dafydd]

Speaking of the website, I still don't know where to find it... can someone pm me a url in case it's not appropriate to post it openly here in this thread?

And speaking of PM's, I've updated my song and I think it's finished, or nearly so. I want you to listen to it. I'll send a link to prophet and aetherius, because they seem more in charge than the rest of you, but if anyone else wants to listen, just tell me and I'll pm you too.

[Spc1st]

When's the deadline for the final submissions? I'm kinda busy with other projects at the moment, so it'd be nice to know so that I can allot fair time for working on my submission in advance. Thanks.

[prophetik music]

Speaking of the website, I still don't know where to find it... can someone pm me a url in case it's not appropriate to post it openly here in this thread?

And speaking of PM's, I've updated my song and I think it's finished, or nearly so. I want you to listen to it. I'll send a link to prophet and aetherius, because they seem more in charge than the rest of you, but if anyone else wants to listen, just tell me and I'll pm you too.

s'good to know someone cares =). btw, check your oms for the link.

[Aetherius]

Just so everyone knows, the reason that I'm not going around setting a specific due date is more so that I don't feel disappointed when you guys fail to meet that deadline-- again.

That said, the ACTUAL deadline, is from this point onward, Right now. Always. ASAP. When I say 'ASAP' I don't mean 'when you have time' I mean 'make time, and finish it, asshead.'

[prophetik music]

Just so everyone knows, the reason that I'm not going around setting a specific due date is more so that I don't feel disappointed when you guys fail to meet that deadline-- again.

That said, the ACTUAL deadline, is from this point onward, Right now. Always. ASAP. When I say 'ASAP' I don't mean 'when you have time' I mean 'make time, and finish it, asshead.'

do you put an asshat or an asscap on an asshead? what about an asstoque? or an assbeanie?

[Dafydd]

Don't forget about assturbans, asscalottes and assfezes. Hmm... this all reminds me about that South Park episode with the people who suffered from the reversed polarity syndrome...

I am working on my song. Aeth, could you listen to it again and tell me what you think (the new version, which I linked to in the PM I sent you)? Since this is your project, any song that's not good enough for you isn't finished, right? Well... tell me.

[PriZm]

Don't forget about assturbans, asscalottes and assfeces

fixed

[Aetherius]

harr harr.
join my project prizm. You can do eet.

[Dafydd]

Speaking of assfeces...

harr harr.
join my project prizm. You can eat doo.

Fixed...

Wow. Gotta love jokes about poo. :roll:

[prophetik music]

harr harr.
join my project prizm. You can do eet.

hey, don't poach my geetahrist. he's doing Richard's Villa with me.

speaking of which, i just finished the outline. i'll pm you with the details, prizm.

[Argle]

I'm not gonna read all 30 pages now, but is the list closed? Why just today I was thinking today about doing a Link's Awakening mix.

[Aetherius]

List isn't closed, but I don't recognize your name, which implies that...you're an unknown. heh, so, you'd have to audition.

[Argle]

yeah, I'm a newbie. However, I took a gander at the list and saw that someone else was already doing the Mysterious Woods theme, which is the one I'm gonna do, so ne'ermind.

edit: I've only done a couple game arrangements, but if you want to hear the most recent head over to the link in my sig and listen to "A Mountain Most Evil".

Good luck with your project though, I'll definitely keep my eye open for the release. :)

[prophetik music]

hey, why are we still stuck in WIPs and not in Site Projects? don't we have 75% of tracks assigned, when you count PriZm and my collab on Richard's Villa?

[Aetherius]

We're forgotten!

[PriZm]

harr harr.
join my project prizm. You can do eet.

I did, I'm doing guitars for Spc1st and Prophet. Gonna start recording as soon as I get my new gear friday

[prophetik music]

harr harr.
join my project prizm. You can do eet.

I did, I'm doing guitars for Spc1st and Prophet. Gonna start recording as soon as I get my new gear friday

werd. did you understand what i was asking?

[prophetik music]

oops double post.

Why doesn't someone update the website at some point? At least the numbers, so we can see where people are on their mixes.

[Aetherius]

Because no one's made any progress :(

Dafydd, the only thing I can think of is that...It doesn't really have an ending, it just...fades away.

[The Joker]

Well, to be fair, my progress should be at around... 95%. I only have some slight mastering stuff to finish.

[Dafydd]

Me too, I guess... Maybe 85%, but no less. You want an ending, huh? Hm. I thought the fade out was adequate enough, but ok. I'll work something out. There goes another 5 percent. :)

[Spc1st]

With some luck, I should be able to more or less finish writing the piece by tonight, and some tentative mastering. Then, when PriZm finishes with the guitar parts, I'll try to wrap everything up nicely.

[prophetik music]

With some luck, I should be able to more or less finish writing the piece by tonight, and some tentative mastering. Then, when PriZm finishes with the guitar parts, I'll try to wrap everything up nicely.

same here. i'm just waiting on PriZm to send me gweetar parts. then, i'll record my sax parts and have it done the next day.

[PriZm]

With some luck, I should be able to more or less finish writing the piece by tonight, and some tentative mastering. Then, when PriZm finishes with the guitar parts, I'll try to wrap everything up nicely.

same here. i'm just waiting on PriZm to send me gweetar parts. then, i'll record my sax parts and have it done the next day.

Pressure's on me 8)

Prophet: there are a couple of things I'd like to discuss regarding arrangement so I won't be recording guitars this weekend. I'll most likely spend the weekend recording Spc1st guitars and next week tweaking your song if that's alright.

[prophetik music]

With some luck, I should be able to more or less finish writing the piece by tonight, and some tentative mastering. Then, when PriZm finishes with the guitar parts, I'll try to wrap everything up nicely.

same here. i'm just waiting on PriZm to send me gweetar parts. then, i'll record my sax parts and have it done the next day.

Pressure's on me 8)

Prophet: there are a couple of things I'd like to discuss regarding arrangement so I won't be recording guitars this weekend. I'll most likely spend the weekend recording Spc1st guitars and next week tweaking your song if that's alright.

of course. can you email me your questions?

[prophetik music]

super chunk dump bump.

[Aetherius]

I suppose I should maybe get to work on mine...since I've got the week off.

[prophetik music]

I suppose I should maybe get to work on mine...since I've got the week off.

and the collab, you lazy bastard.

[Monobrow]

Aaaaaaaaaaaah.

Yeah, I don't see why this is not in Site Projects yet really.

I'm almost finished with my Kirby Superstar Project song, and then I am going to finish mine for this one right afterwards (I've recently had access to much better samples too) Way to actually finish things for once.

Anyway, would anyone be willing to PM me about my drumwork for my WIP though? (it's basically just a loop right now, but I intend to mix it up a lot) I really suck at drums, so if you have any input, I'd welcome it.


Heh...
This was a rambling bump I guess.

[Hadyn]

I've been really dorment on this since I started. I want to apologise for that - my course has very literally been "full time" , and right now it's worse than ever. I have exams next week, and a heap of assignments to finish up asap before I can officially graduate. After that I have some paid web design work I need to do, after which I may finally be free to work on my track again. But that's atleast a month or so away.

I can completely understand if you want to replace me. I can't make a promise to devote myself entirely to this project, but I'll do what I can.

I'll probably finish my remix eventually either way, but I can't guarentee it'll match your deadlines. Sorry, but that's the best I can do right now.

~Hadyn

[Spc1st]

I'm starting to get a renewed interest in my piece, mostly because come tomorrow, I'll have access to our UNI's $500G+ professional-level studio :D.

[The Joker]

Unless we get like a solid due date, I'm putting off working on my piece. Why, you may ask? Silly rabbit, tricks are for hookers... and I may get a new computer.

[Aetherius]

...I thought you were done anyway, Joker...

[The Joker]

Pretty much. Though using my edirol instead of the sf2 I've been using for the orchestral sections would probably give it a better sound overall.

[Aetherius]

probably. We can wait

you know, we still need 3 more mixers, or so. Anyone up to it?

[Hylian Lemon]

Heh. I would do it if I wasn't a sucky newb.

Somebody had better sign up quick! I'm going crazy waiting for this thing to be finished.

[Dafydd]

Well... considering how far most of the remixers are from a finished version, I think you're gonna have to wait for a while longer. :-(

I'm almost done, starky. Unless you find something you don't like about my next sub. It's the ending taking all this time... I've tried a bunch of ways to do it, but it keeps coming down to that fade out. I don't know how else to finish it. I've also been having problems with mastering the song, making the instruments less smudged into each other and so on. But it's coming.

[prophetik music]

bumplage.

work on your tracks, guys!

update on the song that PriZm and I are doing:
He's currently recording the electric guitar parts. after this is done, i've gotta record some hand percussion and bass guitar, and master it. then record the sax part. master that.

so, still a lot of work. but at least it's coming along.

[Aetherius]

bumpyourass.

It occurs to me that I haven't been in touch withn many of you lately...so...get in touch with me if you're reading this...

Someone get actively excited about this project!

[The Joker]

I'm excited...mildy! Still a far off way really. Anyway, I'm most likely gonna go ahead & master my track & be finished with it. And if the projects still going on when I get a new comp, then I'll do the appropiate updating. So, expect a finished mp3 &/or wav depending on what you need, kinda soon-ish.

[Spc1st]

I've been kinda busy with lots of other projects lately, but I finally started working on my remix again. Got some of the guitar parts from Prizm, though he couldn't do all the parts I've intended for him, so I'm going to have to rearrange some parts or whatnot. Expect to see a near-final WIP soon.

[prophetik music]

I've been kinda busy with lots of other projects lately, but I finally started working on my remix again. Got some of the guitar parts from Prizm, though he couldn't do all the parts I've intended for him, so I'm going to have to rearrange some parts or whatnot. Expect to see a near-final WIP soon.

wait, prizm's alive? no fair, i've been expecting guitar parts from him for ages.

[ShinnyMetal]

*parties for the project* there :P

just isn't much oing on...I'm just waiting for everyone else to finish *yawn* and Im tired x.x

[Spc1st]

I've been kinda busy with lots of other projects lately, but I finally started working on my remix again. Got some of the guitar parts from Prizm, though he couldn't do all the parts I've intended for him, so I'm going to have to rearrange some parts or whatnot. Expect to see a near-final WIP soon.

wait, prizm's alive? no fair, i've been expecting guitar parts from him for ages.

I've actually only managed to catch him once on MSN - but other than that, he does seem rather dead :P.

[PriZm]

I work from 8h00 to 7h00 pm every day of the week :(

Prophet: I've tried a couple of things for rhythm guitar, but nothing worthy of a song yet, that's probably why you haven't heard from me yet.

spc1st: I haven't touched your intro since then, but I should be able to work something out during the week.

Sorry about the delay

[Aetherius]

finally some progress.

I know some of us are unable to work on anything right now....some of you haven't even started, (bitch).

Anyway, I'm nigh on completed my remix for the SSF2T project...which means that I'll be working on my songs for THIS project finally, which means that since I procrastinated for almost 8 months, you have no excuse.

[prophetik music]

finally some progress.

I know some of us are unable to work on anything right now....some of you haven't even started, (bitch).

Anyway, I'm nigh on completed my remix for the SSF2T project...which means that I'll be working on my songs for THIS project finally, which means that since I procrastinated for almost 8 months, you have no excuse.

or, it means that you have no excuse for being the project admin and you totally let this project's interest die out because you were slacking on your work of the music.

get moving. you've got what, three songs to do? hurry up. your apathy has transfered to the rest of the people on this project.

[Dafydd]

We are all equally responsible for making all of this take so long. Except for the ones of us that are already finished :)

Speaking of which - I'm still having problems coming up with a good way to end my remix, but I have an idea. On new year's eve, I moodily plunked on the piano and improvised a pretty nice piano piece that I think would blend in nicely with a slightly edited version of my current remix.

If I was to allow a transition from where my current remix ends into something slightly different to make room for my piano song and allow it to establish itself for maybe half a minute or a little more, making a suitable ending would be a lot easier. I can assure you the mood of the song won't change much, but it would let it become a lot more melodic. I just wanted to ask you if you think introducing original material isn't appropriate - but given how close my mix has been to the source so far, I think it has plenty of room to spare for such things, but if it is in contrary to the aims of this project, I shall have to think of something else. Which means more time until I'll finish (not that it would matter much, considering how little progress many of the other remixers seems to have made so far).

[Aetherius]

...I don't think you should add it in unless it...is at all thematically and melodically in synch with your source material.

[prophetik music]

We are all equally responsible for making all of this take so long. Except for the ones of us that are already finished :)

Speaking of which - I'm still having problems coming up with a good way to end my remix, but I have an idea. On new year's eve, I moodily plunked on the piano and improvised a pretty nice piano piece that I think would blend in nicely with a slightly edited version of my current remix.

If I was to allow a transition from where my current remix ends into something slightly different to make room for my piano song and allow it to establish itself for maybe half a minute or a little more, making a suitable ending would be a lot easier. I can assure you the mood of the song won't change much, but it would let it become a lot more melodic. I just wanted to ask you if you think introducing original material isn't appropriate - but given how close my mix has been to the source so far, I think it has plenty of room to spare for such things, but if it is in contrary to the aims of this project, I shall have to think of something else. Which means more time until I'll finish (not that it would matter much, considering how little progress many of the other remixers seems to have made so far).

is this piano piece that you plunked out an arrangement of the melody? or was it just something pretty? i would think that if it's an arrangement of the piece in some way, that's fine...but if it's just some pretty crap then probably you shouldn't put it in.

[Aetherius]

haha, that said, maybe you should just improvise a new piano solo that's in the same chord progression of the song you're remixing, and use that instead.

[Dafydd]

Well, umm, the thing is, the reason this turtle rock theme is so weird musically is that it's playing C,D,F#,G#, and then Bb,C,E,F#, back to C,D,F#,G# and then D,E,G,Bb or equivalent. No melody will fit into that kind of key. The only one that can be considered an actual chord is the D,E,G,Bb thingy... Try it on a piano and see for yourself. This is also the reason why my bass note changes from C to D near the end - it feels just as comfortable in C as in D, and this isn't a normal thing. Anyway, I'll add the piano thingy and let you hear the result and if you don't like it I'll scrap it and try something else. It's the best I can come up with right now, though. Give it a few days.

[Aetherius]

Well, unfortunately, SirRus has definitively pulled out of the project. That said, I think I'll remove the 'hen house' theme from the tracklisting alltogether, as it is short, repetitive, and not all that integral to the plot.

[Spc1st]

:(

[Dafydd]

Shame. His was one of the more inventive remixes. In fact, I can't really hear the source tune in the mix, because it's hidden so well... heh.

Crap, this is not what we need. We need people joining in and finishing their songs, not quitting and leaving a WiP for us to mourn by.



I have a new WiP (#5) at the same adress as last time. This one's about a minute longer. Tell me what you think of that last minute of it and whether I should scrap that part and try something else or if I should try to polish it before releasing a final version. Also, please upload both WiP 4 and 5 to the site... I'm still on WiP 3 there. :wink:

[Dafydd]

Hello?

[prophetik music]

Hello?

i think we all gave up.

[Aetherius]

I have an extremely busy week upcoming, and then it'll be smooth sailing for me. I'll check out the wip when I have time, Dafydd.

[Dafydd]

Hello?

i think we all gave up.

Looks like.

[ShinnyMetal]

We haven't given up yet...not...all...of us..that is...

we jsut need to get in touch with the quiet ones thats all

>.>

[prophetik music]

bumpity bump bump bumpity bump bump look at that frosty go....bumpity bump bump bumpity bump bump over the hills of snow...

[Spc1st]

I was actually going to finish it, but then PriZm said he'll try recording the part again, and I've been waiting since.

[Monobrow]

Hey guys, well I just moved from my apartment, and am moving into a new place, currently cleaning, etc. I have yet to set up my computer too. But I will be able to do mix work probably by the end of this week. So I haven't dropped off the face of the earth.

[Aetherius]

yay katie!

[Dafydd]

What about me? I still haven't received any comments whatsoever on a song that's been lying about for a week and a half by now. You sure don't seem to be in a hurry for this project to reach completion. Not that commenting on my song will make much difference now that about half of the tracks are less than 50% complete 2 months after the intended final deadline. Looks like you need to find some new remixers, Aeth. I won't be quitting on you anytime soon, but if progress is going to continue to be this slow, I'm not sure this project is going to be allowed to stay on the forums.

Come on, it's your project! I can advertise our need for replacements in my sig if you want, but you really should try to do more yourself.

[Aetherius]

PM me a link to your mix, dafydd. I'm not going to go running around this thread to look for it.

For the record:
Aetherius --->Busy with school/other music
Iggy Koopa ---> computer's borked for the moment
The Prophet of Mephisto ---> done/waiting on prizm
Sixto ----> broken hand
Rexy ---> can only make music at school, or something
Fusion2004 ---> Lazy ass
Hadyn ---> Nobody knows!
Spc1st ---> Waiting on Prizm
PriZm ---> Being waited on
Dafydd ---> Apparently working on his remix
Shinny Metal ---> Wants to remix all of the songs. I say no.
chthonic ---> claims to be working
Monobrow ---> Just moved in.
The Joker ---> done, I think
Chris McGee ---> AWOL
Ichitootah ---> AWOL
KungFuChicken ---> 'busy'
Slothboy -> Might as well not be on this list
Rev. Bryant -> Same as above
Graylightning -> Probably forgot about this project
MagiNinja -> AWOL

[Sixto]

Broken shoulder, not so broken anymore, back on schedule, big-ass WIP by the end of the week.

[prophetik music]

Broken shoulder, not so broken anymore, back on schedule, big-ass WIP by the end of the week.

didn't you get run over by a forklift or something ridiculous like that?

[The Joker]

Yeah I'm pretty much done. Just need a final render with a cleaner master. I'm pretty sure I'm getting the new comp, so I'm gonna wait a bit, & finish with more horsepower, & better production value.