Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening: Threshold of a Dream - History

[Aetherius]

This project and this thread are now dead.
This thread is to inform and recruit people of and for the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remix project.

Please read any post that is linked to throughout this post. They are important updates that will give information about the style of music being asked of the remixers, and the practices and general history of the project and its members.

The Guidelines are as follows:
- Song lengths will probably be between 3 and 6 minutes.
- The genre is restricted to ambient, rock, and orchestral(non-cheesy, please), and preferably, electronic fusion of all three. I hope to have a cohesive mix of songs by way of this genre restriction.
I want this project to be moody and somewhat melancholy. The mood should be fueled by nostalgia. The album would end up being something one might listen to on a rainy day, or while studying. Something peaceful and reflective.
- Unfortunately, the timeframe of this project has been negatively affected by the laziness of certain remixers and myself, as well as several drop-outs, and injuries physical and computer related. That said, the project goes on forever, and will be done when it's done. Your deadline is "as soon as possible, forever"

Update Nov 8th, 2005
Read this: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1995132&sid=d9db97c05043c08e1436adf3463d768f#1995132

Update:
I have changed the format so that any remixer who is on the project, but has not decisively chosen a track, is now an 'undecided' and anyone who has expressed interest, been given my okay, but has not given me a definitive 'yes I'll be on the project' is now a 'maybe' and everyone else is normal. yay.

Remixers in the project thus far:

Aetherius (lazy ass)
Iggy Koopa (done)
The Prophet of Mephisto (done and a half)
Rexy (done)
Fishy
Dafydd (done)
Tensai
chthonic (done)
The Joker (done)
Monobrow (busy, but has worked on it recently)
Ichitootah (missing in action, but I might use the submission anyway)

Anyone else who thinks they ought to have been on this list should send me a PM. Either I have neglected to insert you due to a perceived lack of interest on your part, or I have cut your song, because I did not feel it was up to snuff or in keeping with the style restrictions.

Please remember that I will have to have only those who can show that they could do a good job on the project.

Tracklisting and Remixer associated with it.

These are the songs that I have chosen to be arranged. 17 Tracks, which cover the main themes in the game. I've eliminated most repeating themes, which explains why any theme you might enjoy is missing. The same song arranged differently on the sound track will still be the same song arranged differently by us.
The (#/96) refers to which track is which on the gbs archive, which is available from zophar.net, and also on our webpage.

Track 1 > Legend of Zelda/Overworld Theme (5/96) ------------------
Track 2 > Koholint -Unarmed- (29/96) --------------------- chthonic (done)
Track 3 > Mabe Village (4/96)----------------- LessAshamedOfSelf
Track 4 > Houses (10/96) --------------------- Iggy Koopa (done)
Track 5 > Mysterious Woods (9/96) -----------------
Track 6 > Tal Tal Heights (6/96) ----------------- Tensai/fishy?
Track 7 > Tail Cave (82/96) ----------------- Monobrow
Track 8 > Key Cavern (22/96)
Track 9 > The Dream Shrine (83/96) ------------------ The Joker (done)
Track 10 > CatFish's Maw (75/92)
Track 11 > Face Shrine (88/96) ------------------ The Prophet of Mephisto (Done)
Track 12 > Eagle Tower (91/96) ------------------ Rexy (done)
Track 13 > Turtle Rock (90/96) ------------------ Dafydd (done)
Track 14 > Inside the Egg (18/96)
Track 15 > The Last Battle (35/96)
Track 16 > The Ballad of the Windfish (74/96) ------------ Aetherius
Track 17 > Ballad/End Theme (<63>61/96) ------------ Possible collab of all remixers?
http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1930680&sid=0562c3a5aa2eff618119af071cc59a97#1930680


Important Update: Nov 9th/14th
As of now, anybody who is accepted to the project, but hasn't got a track, is allowed to go through the .gbs themselves, and select a track that sounds sufficiently different from the tracks I have already selected to do. They can unofficially work on those songs, and post their wips here, and if there is room, and if the product is good enough, I will include it in the project. Please do not do this unless I have okay'd you as an artist for the project. Also, these tracks must be in the same style as I have set out for all other tracks.
Again, please try to pick songs which are different from the other tracks, yet melodic enough to actually base a song on. That said, remixes of the 'piece of power song' are unacceptable, as there is not enough material to produce something worthwhile that can still be considered a remix. End update.

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2011277#2011277

EXTENDED Tracklisting and Remixer associated with it.

Bottle Grotto* (21/96)
Animal Village (11/96)
Richard's Villa (64/96) ------------ The Prophet of Mephisto & Fishy (done)
The Trendy/Fishing Games (2/96)<53/96>
Choose a Name (17/96)*
Mr. Write's (55/96) <50/96> ------------ (ichitootah?)

* I don't recommend using these tracks, as they are merely variations of pre-existing themes throughout the game. HOWEVER, I will accept them, if there is a good effort and a good remix to come of it.


There is some dispute as to who will do which tracks. I have taken Windfish, in order that the debate over who will do it, and in what style they will do it will be eliminated. If you don't like my version, well, I'm sorry.

I hope to clear up any debates in this thread as time progresses. (as it turns out, several debates have occurred.)

The IRC channel for the project has died, due to disinterest, asshats

Interested remixers can Post or PM with links to recent works, which I will use to judge whether or not I think you have a place in the project. Don't be offended if I turn you down. I'm happy to provide constructive criticism on your wips and things, but I'd rather not have to be holding your hand through this project. I want people to be independently able to produce good music. Likewise, if the music doesn't fit with the vision I have for this project, I will be inclined to turn it down.

edit: You CAN NOT choose a track until I have heard something recent from you, and determined whether your work would benefit the project. You MUST submit something that shows your current ability, or you will not be considered. I DO NOT know who you are, or your abilities just because you've been around the forums.

Thanks for your interest.
Starky.

[DarkeSword]

Just want to pop in here and say that this project has been approved for organization on the OCR forums.

Good luck Starky.

[Claado Shou]

Hmm...tres interessante...

I can't really show you any of my work, since it's all for projects in progress, but I'll make up something for Track 2 (29/96), and show it to you. Just keep me in mind until I turn something in.

Nice idea. I sort of wanted to do a Zelda project after Chrono Symphonic, but since I dropped the idea, I guess this will work nicely. G'luck.

~.C.S.~

[Xenon Odyssey]

Wah-ho! Didn't see this coming. I remember back when the original thread was around, and you guys were trying to label all 96 songs in the .gbs.

Hm...moody? Guess that throws out my idea for a salsa-type remix of the last track in the .gbs...oh well.

Good luck with this; great to see something of the past come forward with new light!

[Aetherius]

you can't do a salsa remix of a salsa song. It's the same song.

[Chavous]

+ interest points in this thread. I can really get involved in this music. Especially if it versatile in a .mid file (which I found).

I'll take Tail Cave!

[Xenon Odyssey]

you can't do a salsa remix of a salsa song. It's the same song.

X_X

I knew it was too perfect...

But that doesn't mean I can't do some nice moody sax for this, now can't I?

The Zelda theme would work very nice...no, wait; the Overworld theme...cuz that little extra section in there has burned into my memory and now I can't play the original theme. :(

[Escariot]

Can I make it into this remix project?

EDIT: I'll take any track I can get, and even better if I can get a choice

[Aetherius]

Escariot, I'll need to hear something recent from you first, since...I can't for the life of me think whether or not I've heard anything of yours.

[PriZm]

if anybody needs geetarz, I'm in

[Sixto]

I want in! Here's some of my stuff.

Twin Blood (http://tadakichi.baka.us/Sixto_Sounds/Audio/Sixto_Sounds_-_Twin_Blood.mp3)
Wicked Six (http://tadakichi.baka.us/Sixto_Sounds/Audio/Sixto_Sounds_-_Wicked_Six.mp3)
Made in USA (http://tadakichi.baka.us/Sixto_Sounds/Audio/Sixto_Sounds_-_Made_in_USA.mp3)
Jipang (http://tadakichi.baka.us/Sixto_Sounds/Audio/jipang.mp3)

[Xenon Odyssey]

edit: You CAN NOT choose a track until I have heard something recent from you, and determined whether your work would benefit the project. You MUST submit something that shows your current ability, or you will not be considered. I DO NOT know who you are, or your abilities just because you've been around the forums.

K...

Here ya go. (http://www.olremix.org/phpBB/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=72) The best thing there is Thunder 'N Lightning, which isn't really that ambient and all, but meh.

[Aetherius]

Well, Sixto, you're definitely in, though, You're confined to slow rock and ambient type stuff...I don't know how well that suits you. *shrugs* Do you even have time?!

[Chavous]

[quote=Aetherius]
edit: You CAN NOT choose a track until I have heard something recent from you, and determined whether your work would benefit the project. You MUST submit something that shows your current ability, or you will not be considered. I DO NOT know who you are, or your abilities just because you've been around the forums.

Ermm....oh...right...

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4358

This is my most recent, but I've gotten better since then, and am already working on something Ambient-like for Tail Cave.

[Vurez]

Huh, I find it odd you chose to omit track 5 and chose track 1 for the Zelda theme instead. I only say this because track 5 is more unique to the Link's Awakening where as track 1 is pretty much the same Zelda theme we've all heard countless remixes of. Though, I'm sure you thought it through, and probably have your reasons. I guess it is an arrangement in itself.

Anyway, good luck on the project. Hope all goes well.

[Sixto]

Well, Sixto, you're definitely in, though, You're confined to slow rock and ambient type stuff...I don't know how well that suits you. *shrugs* Do you even have time?!

Suits me just fine. And I have about four or five months of free time. :D

I'll do track 1/96, by the way.

[Aetherius]

Actually, you're right. I should change track one to track four. There is that important mid-bit that is left out. Sixto, Adhesive_Boy and Hemophiliac claim that they MIGHT (read "probably won't") do a collab of that first track, but...chances are you'll pull through and they won't.

Just so everyone knows, track one is now 5/96, which is the overworld theme from the game.

[Ichitootah]

I'd be happy to join, if I did i'd probably take something like a slow minor key interpretation of turtle rock. Though I guess I'll let you decide for yourself if you even want me. :)

Remix- Path of the Wind (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=270826&songID=2888586)

Here's a WIP of a remix of a song from the anime Totoro. It's my most recent work, and in my style pretty much, even though its not finished.

You have to sign up to get it, but I'm afraid I don't have many other options but soundclick.

[Rexy]

If you want I could join in; ironically so I've done more moody stuff than anything, according to my VGMix bio. O.o

Anyways, tracks showing my current ability. Let's scoop out a few samples and crap.

"Snowflakes" (http://doulifee.com/prc/Orc/ORC22/ORC22_Rexy_-_Snowflakes.mp3) (piano variation on Ichitootah's "Winter Steppe" for ORC22)
"Anguished Beyond Words" (http://www.rpgamer.com/games/dq/dq2/sounds/mp3/AnguishedBeyondWords(Rexy).mp3) (this *was* going to be the site's first Dragon Warrior 2 mix, but the judges rejected it in the last minute... ouch)
"Time's Anxiety" (http://www.rpgamer.com/games/castlevania/circlemoon/sounds/mp3/TimesAnxiety(Rexy).mp3) (covering Castlevania: CotM's Clock Tower theme, and it was this piece that made me move onto the finals for RPGamer.com's Splendid Performance contest)

I hope this is as deep as we can get it O.o

[Dafydd]

I just read Blizihizake was interested in making a remix of the tal tal heights theme.

I just wanted to tell you that I gave that same song a listen a few days ago and it reminded me so much of the music from "the good, the bad and the ugly". Maybe you don't see it, but that's what I saw. Anyway, if you run out of ideas or haven't come up with a better one already, please consider letting your mix take on the same style as the music from the movie mentioned above. You know, spanish guitars, a marching drum, some choir, and a trumpet in the lead. At least, give the movie music a listen and the idea a thought.

Best of luck to you, and to the entire project.

[Eposhark]

I'll do track 1/96, by the way.

Welcome to the project !

Anyway, I have to inform you that 1/96 is not available anymore. Someone pointed out that it's just the Zelda theme that has been remixed all over and over. Therefore Track 1 of the project will now be 5/96, which is the overworld theme.

Knowing this, which track would you like to do ?

[Sixto]

5/96 is good, then.

[Aetherius]

I'll do track 1/96, by the way.

Welcome to the project !

Anyway, I have to inform you that 1/96 is not available anymore. Someone pointed out that it's just the Zelda theme that has been remixed all over and over. Therefore Track 1 of the project will now be 5/96, which is the overworld theme.

Knowing this, which track would you like to do ?

Way to be totally redundant, Epo.

Rexy, your links don't lead to files, they lead to the index page. Send something over IRC. I imagine you'll do fine, but I want to hear something anyway.

Ichitootah I like it, You can be on the project. some of your samples sound a tad muffled, you know, and quite bass-heavy, but as you say, it's a wip. I think it shows that you could pull something good off, though.

Let it be known that Taucer has relinquished his hold on Mabe Village, and will also be dropping down to 'maybe' status. This is a sad day. Someone replace him.

[Rexy]

Rexy, your links don't lead to files, they lead to the index page. Send something over IRC. I imagine you'll do fine, but I want to hear something anyway.
Strange, the links work fine with me O.o Have you tried right-clicking and Save Target As?

[bladiator]

I have taken Windfish, in order that the debate over who will do it, and in what style they will do it will be eliminated. I'd rather not see another cruddy orchestral version, thanks.
:cry:

[Aetherius]

Ah, save target worked, Rexy.
and suffice it to say that you're in, should you choose to be...I'd like to hear you try Eagle Tower, personally.

Sorry Bladiator. It might seem selfish, and I suppose it is. I'd rather see the song done my way than anyone else's, though.

[Xenon Odyssey]

A-ha, I found something worthy of a previous work.

In Search of that Girl... (http://rapidshare.de/files/4410605/Xenon_Odyssey_-_In_Search_of_that_Girl....mp3.html)

Granted, it's not really a remix, but I can change that quite easily, thanks to my AP Music Theory class finally getting somewhere with music-writing.

[Rexy]

Sure, I'll see if I can have a stab at Eagle Tower :) Thanks for bringing me on board.

[Escariot]

Sure, I'll see if I can have a stab at Eagle Tower :) Thanks for bringing me on board.

I take it that Eagle Tower is now out of the question for me

[Aetherius]

*shrugs* not out of the question.
Do any song you like.

[Escariot]

A-ha, I found something worthy of a previous work.

In Search of that Girl... (http://rapidshare.de/files/4410605/Xenon_Odyssey_-_In_Search_of_that_Girl....mp3.html)

Granted, it's not really a remix, but I can change that quite easily, thanks to my AP Music Theory class finally getting somewhere with music-writing.

AP Music Theory?
Wow... We have a Music Theory, but it's practically a study hall, and we get a HUGE binder full of papers that need to be filled by the end of the year...

[Xenon Odyssey]

A-ha, I found something worthy of a previous work.

In Search of that Girl... (http://rapidshare.de/files/4410605/Xenon_Odyssey_-_In_Search_of_that_Girl....mp3.html)

Granted, it's not really a remix, but I can change that quite easily, thanks to my AP Music Theory class finally getting somewhere with music-writing.

AP Music Theory?
Wow... We have a Music Theory, but it's practically a study hall, and we get a HUGE binder full of papers that need to be filled by the end of the year...

We've got like, 11 people in it, and every Friday we have a test. Thursday is solfege (nobody fuckin' told me we actually had to SING in the course... :oops: ), and then melodic and rhythm dictation on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

Can't wait until the seniors graduate; there will be 3 kids (including myself) and the teacher in the class. That'll be fun...

But Aetherius has not said anything about my arrangement In Search of that Girl... (http://rapidshare.de/files/4410605/Xenon_Odyssey_-_In_Search_of_that_Girl....mp3.html). I know he probably ignored my last batch of "works" cuz they are all shtuff from OverLooked ReMiX (http://www.olremix.org), but this one is actually legit, and sound pretty well done. Hell, if it would have just had some arrangement to it, it would have probably been tier 2 or 1 at VGMix...

[Escariot]

OT:
Monday:
- School >> 8:00 - 3:10 (Leave home at 7:05)
- Marching Band >> 3:30 - 5:00-ish
- Arrive >> 5:30-ish

Tuesday:
- School >> 8:00 - 3:10 (Leave home at 7:05)
- School Store >> 3:10 - 3:40
- Yearbook Meeting >> 3:45 - 5:30 or 6:00
- Arrive >> 6:30-ish

Wednesday:
- School >> 8:00 - 3:10 (Leave home at 7:05)
- School Store >> 3:10 - 3:40
- Yearbook Meeting >> 3:45 - 5:30 or 6:00
- Arrive >> 6:30-ish

Thursday:
- School >> 8:00 - 3:10 (Leave home at 7:05)
- Marching Band >> 3:30 - 5:00-ish
- Drumline >> 5:00-ish - 6:00
- Choraliers >> 6:00 - 7:30
- Scat Cats >> 7:30 - 8:30
- Arrive >> 9:00-ish

Friday:
- School >> 8:00 - 3:10 (Leave home at 7:05)
- Football Game >> Between 4:15 and 5:30 - Between 9:30 and 11:30 (Depends on Home or Away)
- Arrive 10:00-ish or Midnight

That's my weekday schedule

Sorry it's a little irrelevant, but I just had to...

[Aetherius]

Xenon, I listened to 'in search of that girl' but I think that I have issues with your sample/sound quality.

[Xenon Odyssey]

Xenon, I listened to 'in search of that girl' but I think that I have issues with your sample/sound quality.

Oh, okay.

Well, since I don't have much experience in ReMixing, I won't bother you with any more tries for the project. I just need to get a better sound card and different speakers.

Anyhow, good luck with this.

[Escariot]

bump

[Claado Shou]

I know I said earlier that I would see what I could do with the Koholint source tune, and I did, and it's not working out. Sorry. After three separate attempts, I'm pretty sure that song isn't cut out for me. Or I'm not cut out for it. Or something equally clever.

G'luck, though.

~.C.S.~

[Aetherius]

Well, no loss there, since Claado's 'submission' was really his audition, and was never on the project to begin with...

Anyway, Just so everyone knows...I've had my internet connection blocked by my service provider because I've exceeded the bandwidth limit by several times. I'll have it back by the third of October.

Please keep arguing over who gets which song and submitting wips. With any luck my 'associates' will listen to them while I'm gone, and then I can listen to them when I get back.

Dance, Puppets!

[Escariot]

On that note... The official page for WIPs and Finals until the project is complete should be done on or before October 9

[Geoffrey Taucer]

If my mabe village (super-upbeat reggae) arrangement and my koholint unarmed arrangement (mix with "hotel california," just to thumb my nose at DJP) are both deemed unnacceptable to this project, I think I'm going to have to officially back out.

I'm still happy to record guitars for anybody who needs them, though.

[Eposhark]

No WIP's yet ?

[Dafydd]

No WIP's yet ?

Seconded...

[prophetik music]

hey, i'm not TheProphecy, i'm The Prophet of Mephisto.

lol.

i'm just starting my wip right now. i'm hoping to make something along the lines of a sonata for saxophone accompanied by strings, padsynths and piano...it doens't sound like much on paper, but think some of ES Posthumus's slower stuff. for now. god knows what its gonna be when i'm done.

i'll post a wip soon.

[Rexy]

Haha, don't feel too discouraged. I accidentally mistook Prophecy for you in the OCR chat once over the summer, so that can account for something. ^_^*

I wish I could say progress would be on with the WIPs at my end, but considering GrayLightning is offering hands for a collab it makes me wonder if we'd work on Eagle Tower together or do a different one outside from that. If anything rises I'd be back here ASAP.

[Aetherius]

Just for the record, I'm back.

Also: Rexy, If you collab with Gray, I might like you or both of you to do another song solo as well...I don't have much faith in my list of mixers, since so many of them are 'tentative'


Also of import:
The oficial project start date is now Monday, the Tenth of October. Which tentatively, gives us until the 10th of january to have everything done. First wips are due December 10th, and finals on January 10th, if we even need that much time. I give you this much time so that you don't feel pressured, but just so you know, the pressure's already on, and you really don't need a whole flipping 3 months, kids.

[Rexy]

Heh, in my case the first WIP date sounds like my finals, because I can't work on my music when I'm home for Christmas 8O

Anyway, sounds good.

[Eposhark]

In case you want to show your WIP's to people who follow this project close-up, please join our IRC channel, and DCC send the files to Escariot. He's the person who maintains the site, and gives you a folder in which he puts all your WIP's for download.

The channel is located here : irc.enterthegame.com - #laproject (Click to join : irc://irc.enterthegame.com/laproject )

[Escariot]

In case you want to show your WIP's to people who follow this project close-up, please join our IRC channel, and DCC send the files to Escariot. He's the person who maintains the site, and gives you a folder in which he puts all your WIP's for download.

The channel is located here : irc.enterthegame.com - #laproject (Click to join : irc://irc.enterthegame.com/laproject )

If you can't connect to IRC, post a link, and I'll download the file, and put it on the offical file house of the LAProject... Link will be posted soon


EDIT: And on Aetherius' note, page will not be posted until after the WIP deadline

[Aetherius]

For the record, I'm planning on keeping the wips private for now. I don't want the mixers to have any input on their tracks outside of my own, or that of the other mixers. This is because...Personally, I don't trust the opinions of the general populace of these forums, and In reality, this project is for my own pleasure and entertainment, and not yours, and so I don't really give a crap whether anyone but me likes the results...

So:
Wips are to be kept private/secretive.
Keep your stupid ideas to yourselves.

[prophetik music]

For the record, I'm planning on keeping the wips private for now. I don't want the mixers to have any input on their tracks outside of my own, or that of the other mixers. This is because...Personally, I don't trust the opinions of the general populace of these forums, and In reality, this project is for my own pleasure and entertainment, and not yours, and so I don't really give a crap whether anyone but me likes the results...

So:
Wips are to be kept private/secretive.
Keep your stupid ideas to yourselves.

fair enough.

[Aetherius]

Lies! It is entirely unfair!

But I don't care!

Poetry And didn't knowetry!

[Sixto]

I'll be leaving out of town for a couple of weeks, so I won't be able to work on any music until I'm back home. But I did already start on my piece and will keep working on it until I leave.

[Jack the Ripper]

I'm a bit interested in this project, but it would seem that the homepage is down.

[prophetik music]

thank you for actually reading the first post, buddy. [/sarcasm]

[Aetherius]

Just for a bit of overkill, If The Prophet of Mephisto's derision wasn't enough for you:

The website is useless. There's no info on it that's not in the first post, and all the info in the first post is up to date, and important. So read the first post. Read it, and read it again, and then learn english, and read it again. That is all.

[Jack the Ripper]

I'm sorry I don't have all the time in the day to read forum posts. I was hoping the site would at least be hosting the tracks-to-be remixed, so that I wouldn't have to waste my time hunting them down, as well.

[prophetik music]

go onto the irc channel and Epo or Iggy will send them to you. thats how I got them.

[Aetherius]

We need more mixers, and we need more of the mixers I have listed actually informing me that they're working. So, if you're a mixer listed on this project, just drop a post that says that you're actually doing something, or at least planning.

Once we have that sorted out, we'll know who's doing what, and we can get out of the requests forum and into general discussion.

[Rexy]

I'm in planning with Eagle Tower. Source is really getting into me, I'm sure of it. Still trying to figure out what to do with Gray though...

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I'm out.

If anybody needs a guitarist, though, I'd be happy to help.

[Eposhark]

The Orihalcon wanted to let us know he is out. But he was too lazy to reply. Or he just didn't want to.

[Fusion2004]

I would like to join the project, and if accepted, claim Mabe Village.

[GrayLightning]

I'm in planning with Eagle Tower. Source is really getting into me, I'm sure of it. Still trying to figure out what to do with Gray though...

Yeah I'm still in. I'll pm you about this soon rexy. Been busy working on some IRL stuff, and also the TA mix. ;)

[Chris McGee]

Hey, I'm still interested. Starky, you need to come by the channel more often.

EDIT: I'm interested in Catfish's Maw, if it's still available that is.

[Fusion2004]

Psshhh, almost forgot to post something for you to listen to.

Heres a original I've been working on as of late:
http://www.fusion2004p.com/Revolutionizing_the_Planet_WIP_2.mp3

(Again, if you do accept me, I would like to remix Mabe Village. It obviously won't be anywhere as synth heavy as the above original, and will feature guitar by GeoffreyTaucer.)

kthx

[Aetherius]

I'm planning to get the last track to be a collaborative remix between a couple of the mixers.

Primarily, I would like one person (preferably not me) to do a basic lay-down of the whole song, say on piano, (I'm looking at you Iggy) and then the other remixers can add parts like guitars or synths, or beats to it that will improve the mix and flesh it out. That way, We'll have something fittingly climactic for the end. I'm looking for Epic and exciting without being frenetic or eccentric.

In mind, I have Iggy (on piano), MagiNinja (on violin), Myself (on atmosphere and percussion, possibly guitar) and Maybe Taucer or Prophet of Mephisto on guitars and saxophone respectively. If anybody on the project is interested, and if anyone who can contribute live instruments is interested, let me know, and we'll get on that.

This idea is secondary to the remixing of all other tracks. SO, Primarily, work on your own track, and in the off time, or when you're done, work on this track.
Wait until I've secured a person for the main-layout, though.

That is all.
Starkles.

[Escariot]

biggeda biggeda bump!

[prophetik music]

I'm planning to get the last track to be a collaborative remix between a couple of the mixers.

Primarily, I would like one person (preferably not me) to do a basic lay-down of the whole song, say on piano, (I'm looking at you Iggy) and then the other remixers can add parts like guitars or synths, or beats to it that will improve the mix and flesh it out. That way, We'll have something fittingly climactic for the end. I'm looking for Epic and exciting without being frenetic or eccentric.

In mind, I have Iggy (on piano), MagiNinja (on violin), Myself (on atmosphere and percussion, possibly guitar) and Maybe Taucer or Prophet of Mephisto on guitars and saxophone respectively. If anybody on the project is interested, and if anyone who can contribute live instruments is interested, let me know, and we'll get on that.

This idea is secondary to the remixing of all other tracks. SO, Primarily, work on your own track, and in the off time, or when you're done, work on this track.
Wait until I've secured a person for the main-layout, though.

That is all.
Starkles.

i can do vocals, also, if you need them. I've got a lower voice, but i can still help out. also, I can do bass guitar, if we so feel the urge.

[Aetherius]

If anybody's actually working...let me know...

And here are still openings for mixers...I'm still taking auditions, if you, or anyone you know might be interested, send me a song...

[Arek the Absolute]

Hmm, quite interesting. Goodluck with this dude. Hope it goes far.

[Terrisare]

if you are relativley new to the mixing community, is it alright if you submit a WIP as your audition due to lack of other material to submit?

edit: by WIP I mean a WIP of the song you want to mix for this project, not some random WIP.

[Rexy]

ok, so I managed to get in contact with Gray concerning the collaborative effort.

<Rexy> vgmix: rock bias or pure coincidence?
<Rexy> if it is, I need to collab with prizm :P
<Rexy> speaking of collabs, got any thoughts on what tracks we might do together for the link's awakening project?
<GrayLightning> i thought you already picked it
<GrayLightning> ?
<Rexy> nah, I thought you said that we need to figure out what to do together
<GrayLightning> hmm
<GrayLightning> when is this due again
<GrayLightning> i should find time to listen to the soundtrack
<Rexy> the first WIP date is dec 10
<GrayLightning> but worst case scenario, i'm willing to do whatever one you want
We discussed ideas on how to put the mix together, and in what style too. I have a feeling we might do Tail Cave, although the word is still waiting to be official on what track we're doing.

But as soon as more info is available, we'll be back in touch :)

[Zoola]

I don't have time to do a track, but I want to tell you guys I have high hopes for this project. I actually began replaying this game a few days ago, and remembering all those catchy tunes. I await eagerly for the final project!

[Aetherius]

if you are relativley new to the mixing community, is it alright if you submit a WIP as your audition due to lack of other material to submit?

edit: by WIP I mean a WIP of the song you want to mix for this project, not some random WIP.

That's fine, but I would worry that being so new, you might not have the skills required for this scale of project...

however, that's not to say I won't check out your wip :)


Rexy and Gray:
Just pick a flippin' song, and be awesome. If you have time, though, rexy...I'd like for you to do an Eagle Tower Remix too, though, cause...like...damnit, I want someone good to do it. haha.

[prophetik music]

hey aetherius, can you update the original post with who's in, who's maybe, who's not, who's doing what, etc? just curious.

edit 900 w00t

[Chris McGee]

Just to let you know, I'm still working on my song.

[Rexy]

Starky, I have a 1-minute WIP ready to show you. I'll PM it to you ASAP.

[Escariot]

Starky, I have a 1-minute WIP ready to show you. I'll PM it to you ASAP.

If you read the earlier posts, please get onto IRC

irc://irc.enterthegame.com/laproject and send to Escariot/Escaruit (Alternate nick and stupid internet connection don't go well)

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I think it's safe to say I won't be doing a mix for this.

But I'm still offering guitar.

[Rexy]

Starky, I have a 1-minute WIP ready to show you. I'll PM it to you ASAP.

If you read the earlier posts, please get onto IRC

irc://irc.enterthegame.com/laproject and send to Escariot/Escaruit (Alternate nick and stupid internet connection don't go well)
But I can't get onto IRC from college :(

[Arek the Absolute]

Yo peeps. Just curious on how to get a chanserver thingy for your irc chat. I am thinking of making an irc chat for my project, so I could use some tips on hosting and such.
Thanks for the help in advance.

EDIT: nevermind. Got one. :)

[Escariot]

Starky, I have a 1-minute WIP ready to show you. I'll PM it to you ASAP.

If you read the earlier posts, please get onto IRC

irc://irc.enterthegame.com/laproject and send to Escariot/Escaruit (Alternate nick and stupid internet connection don't go well)
But I can't get onto IRC from college :(

PM Me with a link or something...

[Rexy]

PM Me with a link or something...
ok, I will do that.

Since submitting the first demo to Starky last week, I've managed to add in 2 more minutes of music. I'll be ready to submit that version your way :)

[Aetherius]

this is your official bump.

p.s. keep working...I don't see enough from you guys.

[prophetik music]

got more done so far. still sonic issues, since i am recording everything, but at least i've got a very basic full-length wip. where do you want it?

[Aetherius]

oooh, from behind.

actually, just PM it to me on here, IM it to me on AIM, or DCC it to me/Escariot on IRC

[DarkeSword]

Moved to General; lets get some more mixers people!

[Nintendo_Ace]

Unfortunately,, I don thave near the expertise or experience in remixing to help out (as much as i wish I could) BUt it soudn slike a good concept. I'll be interested to start hearing WIPs

oh and will somebdy PLEASE in clude Manbo's Mambo. Its a must have at least somewhere in a remix. even if its only a few second sit needs to be in there. (though if someone coudl do a full track for it alone or it and somehting else, i would be incredibly impressed)

good luck to all!

[Aetherius]

Moved to General; lets get some more mixers people!

A-thank you.

Just making sure everyone knows that we still need about 5 songs to be assigned to people. Let's see some participation... :( I don't want to have to cut tracks.

[Benjamin Briggs]

OH FUCKING SNAP

Why did I not see this sooner? Why am I just now stumbling across this? This was a great idea to begin with, and I'm glad to see it back. This might be a great opportunity for me to try a different style of remixing. Go here (http://www.ocremix.org/remixer/id/444/) or here (http://www.vgmix.com/search.php?username=chthonic&show_songs=1) for my past work.

Let me know if you want me on, and I'll look for a track. :)

-chth

[Rexy]

I can imagine something in the style of Anthem of a Misguided Youth should you chip in :)

Still, mine's coming well. Been a bit busier than the usual this week due to in-class tests and team report deadlines, but I'm building up some very reasonable foundations here.

And I still need word back from Gray on what other track to do so that I can actually start the background sketch >.>

[Chris McGee]

Mine's coming along. I might have a wip for this weekend. :/

[Aetherius]

chstyfuidydhonic,

I haven't listened to the 'past work' things, but I believe I've heard something...*shrugs* if Fusion can be on, you can be on...because...like...Fusion's a loser.

[Benjamin Briggs]

chstyfuidydhonic,

I haven't listened to the 'past work' things, but I believe I've heard something...*shrugs* if Fusion can be on, you can be on...because...like...Fusion's a loser.
Thank you for your clearly unadulterated enthusiasm. I'll look for a track later on today.

-chth

[Eon_Blue]

chstyfuidydhonic,

I haven't listened to the 'past work' things, but I believe I've heard something...*shrugs* if Fusion can be on, you can be on...because...like...Fusion's a loser.

Does that mean I'm on too?

Hah - no, I may be a loser, but I can't remix like DS or Zircon.


:D :D :D

[Aetherius]

Thank you for your clearly unadulterated enthusiasm. I'll look for a track later on today.
-chth

It's my nature :) don't be discouraged.

edit: in light of certain new developments, you are under NO circumstances to refer to this project as 'LARP' ever. Sweet jesus, people. NEVER refer to us as LARP. We are the 'LA project.' sing it, if you want.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Man, I can't wait for LARP to be completed :lol:

Don't hurt me ;)

[suzumebachi]

how did i miss this thread?

anyways if there's anything i can help with, gimme a holler.

[prophetik music]

hey, if you want to know what kind of stuff chthonic does, look at his 'linear groove' of tetris over at VGMix. its pretty hawt.

also, eon's not bad with his synths. i'll work with him if his stuff alone isn't good enough to get him on (which i think it is, but i'm just a n00b anyways).

k i'm done

[Aetherius]

Thank you for your clearly unadulterated enthusiasm. I'll look for a track later on today.

-chth

Well, I'd already heard 'it's my turn to dream', which... Well, in essence, I can't stand it when people remix the ballad or tal tal, because... I never think it does the original the justice it deserves. *shrugs* I'm pretty reverent when it comes to Link's Awakening.

Anyway, having heard other stuff, I can tell that you've got the ability to make something good, just gotta pick a song, and make sure that you stay within the (pretty tight) constraints I've put on genre and mood.

[Aetherius]

how did i miss this thread?

anyways if there's anything i can help with, gimme a holler.

because you don't listen to me when I talk to you, asswad.


Also:

Eon, give me something to hear, and I'll tell you if you can remix for us. If you have time, it'd be cool if you could throw a little art or something our way...

edit: oops, double post.

The joker is on as well...

Just a reminder here: Make sure that you can work within the genre/mood restrictions I've set out. I'm not looking for upbeat stuff, hard-rocking stuff, or hip-hop. Also, I'm not looking for STRAIGHT orchestral, soft-rock, and ambient/electronic. I'd prefer a mixture of (at least two of) the three. However, don't be discouraged. Start a short wip, and if it doesn't fit the mood, I'll see if I can point you in a direction that fits more with my vision for the project.

[PassivePretentiousness]

I'd be in on this in a second if I didn't suk at music.

Best of luck.

[Eon_Blue]

how did i miss this thread?

anyways if there's anything i can help with, gimme a holler.

because you don't listen to me when I talk to you, asswad.


Also:

Eon, give me something to hear, and I'll tell you if you can remix for us. If you have time, it'd be cool if you could throw a little art or something our way...

edit: oops, double post.

The joker is on as well...

Just a reminder here: Make sure that you can work within the genre/mood restrictions I've set out. I'm not looking for upbeat stuff, hard-rocking stuff, or hip-hop. Also, I'm not looking for STRAIGHT orchestral, soft-rock, and ambient/electronic. I'd prefer a mixture of (at least two of) the three. However, don't be discouraged. Start a short wip, and if it doesn't fit the mood, I'll see if I can point you in a direction that fits more with my vision for the project.

I cannot remix for you. Art, yes; remix, no. Unless I get really good all of a sudden, and can pick up a track that no one else wanted, I don't think I'll be able to offer anything interesting.

I'll mess around with some artwork when I get the chance. I guess that's quite a ways off anyway.

[!Nekko!]

OH FUCKING SNAP
Exactly. I will definately try to get in on this project. I know the limitations of my skill so if anything list me as a "maybe/probably not but still want to really bad."

Edit: I'm takin a crack at Tail Cave and seeing what sound I can get.

[ArseAssassin]

Track 8 > Key Cavern (22/96)I could give this one a go. WIP coming as soon as I get around to posting it.

[!Nekko!]

Here is the beginning stages of my Tail Cave WIP (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~djnoll/tailcave.mp3)

Also, I have examples of my works at my myspace (http://www.myspace.com/tjnekko) page.

[Aetherius]

Well, nekko, at the moment, all I can say is that there isn't really anything going on in that wip.

I mean...basically, it's just the original, but with your own instruments. The samples aren't too great, unfortunately, and the synth is alright. Just, at the moment, it doesn't seem that that's the kind of material that would benefit the project.

By the way, that bell doesn't have the range to play notes that low. The lower notes go off-key.

[!Nekko!]

Agreed. Its an early stage and I was just trying to get the idea across. I wasn't submitting this and probably won't be soon. I'll be working on it and making it deeper. I'll post it again once it actually has substance. Thanks for the input though.

[PassivePretentiousness]

Agreed. Its an early stage and I was just trying to get the idea across. I wasn't submitting this and probably won't be soon. I'll be working on it and making it deeper. I'll post it again once it actually has substance. Thanks for the input though.

!Nekko!. you're a cool dood. work on something and submit it to oc regardless of what direction the project takes.

[Benjamin Briggs]

Hey Starky, can I call you Starky?

Anyway Starky, did you enjoy It's My Turn to Dream at all? Just curious. Also, I am looking forward to trying a broad soundscape involving lots of dreamy synths, acoustic drumset, minimal orchestral elements such as strings and solo winds, and live played classical acoustic guitar. You can also count on a lot of tastefully applied reverb, filters, and maybe some subtle distortion.

I'll pick a track by tommorrow night, if not by the end of tonight.

-chth

[charlena]

Anyway, good luck on the project. Hope all goes well.
I wish you good luck, man.

[prophetik music]

Hey Starky, can I call you Starky?

Anyway Starky, did you enjoy It's My Turn to Dream at all? Just curious. Also, I am looking forward to trying a broad soundscape involving lots of dreamy synths, acoustic drumset, minimal orchestral elements such as strings and solo winds, and live played classical acoustic guitar. You can also count on a lot of tastefully applied reverb, filters, and maybe some subtle distortion.

I'll pick a track by tommorrow night, if not by the end of tonight.

-chth

i hate it when people actually know what they're doing...cause I don't.

[Benjamin Briggs]

Hey Starky, can I call you Starky?

Anyway Starky, did you enjoy It's My Turn to Dream at all? Just curious. Also, I am looking forward to trying a broad soundscape involving lots of dreamy synths, acoustic drumset, minimal orchestral elements such as strings and solo winds, and live played classical acoustic guitar. You can also count on a lot of tastefully applied reverb, filters, and maybe some subtle distortion.

I'll pick a track by tommorrow night, if not by the end of tonight.

-chth

i hate it when people actually know what they're doing...cause I don't.
FUN FACT: That was a bunch of wordy bullshit that basically means "I'm going to try to make it slow". :)

-chth

[Aetherius]

It seems to me like some people are getting pithy...
*glares around patronizingly*

Anyway, chrktonic (it's faster to keymash your name than to remember the order of the first four letters...), I didn't LIKE 'my turn to dream' but I also didn't hate it. Redundant: I would have been indifferent to it, were it not for my distaste for any remixes at all of Link's Awakening material. (I am sure That I will have to fight back that predisposition all the time during this project...) I figure if the project is under my supervision, there's a better chance that I will feel each song has been done justice.

That said, I can appreciate the arrangement and quality of the work you did with it. Blah blah blah

I guess it seems like I might be antagonizing you specifically, but I'm not trying to antagonize anyone.

Anyway, your fancy wordiness... though it sounds fancy, and wordy, isn't really going to help me understand what you're going to do...
I'm thinking that the best way to remedy that would be to...apply the ideas...and make a wip :)


Also, for the masses: sarcasm is like...stupid. shut up.

[Benjamin Briggs]

It seems to me like some people are getting pithy...
*glares around patronizingly*

Anyway, chrktonic (it's faster to keymash your name than to remember the order of the first four letters...), I didn't LIKE 'my turn to dream' but I also didn't hate it. Redundant: I would have been indifferent to it, were it not for my distaste for any remixes at all of Link's Awakening material. (I am sure That I will have to fight back that predisposition all the time during this project...) I figure if the project is under my supervision, there's a better chance that I will feel each song has been done justice.

That said, I can appreciate the arrangement and quality of the work you did with it. Blah blah blah

I guess it seems like I might be antagonizing you specifically, but I'm not trying to antagonize anyone.

Anyway, your fancy wordiness... though it sounds fancy, and wordy, isn't really going to help me understand what you're going to do...
I'm thinking that the best way to remedy that would be to...apply the ideas...and make a wip :)


Also, for the masses: sarcasm is like...stupid. shut up.
You remind me of me. :) I'll get that WiP as soon as possible.

-chth

[Escariot]

Just a reminder to remixers...

Please don't post your WIP in this thread... Send to Aetherius or I through IRC, PM, or AIM...

Aetherius' AIM: DrFrankenPhreak
Escariot's AIM: Escariot45

[Aetherius]

Just a reminder to remixers...

Please don't post your WIP in this thread... Send to Aetherius or I through IRC, PM, or AIM...

Aetherius' AIM: DrFrankenPhreak
Escariot's AIM: Escariot45

to clarify further: you may post wips or songs if they are your audition pieces, however, once your song has been confirmed as yours to work on, your wips are to be private until December 10th.

[Benjamin Briggs]

Kolohint - 29/96

Give me a day or two to shit out a WiP.

-chth

[The Joker]

Yeah, I'll have a wip soon. I have this killer cold or something. Whenever I try to make music my head ends up pounding. Sucks. Anyway... toodles!

[Aetherius]

buump

[Sinewav]

Are you still taking remixers? Here's some of my recent music if you are.

The Betrayal (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038619&q=hi) - RPG Pre-battle music/orchestral
Battle with Judas (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038634&q=hi) - RPG battle music/orchestral
The Day the World Crashed (WIP) (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038660&q=hi) - Chrono Trigger Remix/ambient/electronica
The Garden (WIP) (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038646&q=hi) - Ambient

[Terial]

8O remix project? for the first zelda I ever played? LIK! OMGAD! *is psyched* great idea! I'm really looking forward to this!

[Aetherius]

Are you still taking remixers? Here's some of my recent music if you are.

The Betrayal (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038619&q=hi) - RPG Pre-battle music/orchestral
Battle with Judas (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038634&q=hi) - RPG battle music/orchestral
The Day the World Crashed (WIP) (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038660&q=hi) - Chrono Trigger Remix/ambient/electronica
The Garden (WIP) (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038646&q=hi) - Ambient

well, I've only listened to the Ct remix wip as yet, but it sounds pretty good. I'll sign you up.

[Sinewav]

Are you still taking remixers? Here's some of my recent music if you are.

The Betrayal (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038619&q=hi) - RPG Pre-battle music/orchestral
Battle with Judas (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038634&q=hi) - RPG battle music/orchestral
The Day the World Crashed (WIP) (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038660&q=hi) - Chrono Trigger Remix/ambient/electronica
The Garden (WIP) (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3038646&q=hi) - Ambient

well, I've only listened to the Ct remix wip as yet, but it sounds pretty good. I'll sign you up.

Sweet. So assuming that you don't change your mind and kick me out after hearing the other songs (:lol:), can I take on Tail Cave? I'm thinking sort of a darker ambient/orchestral sound with more of an emphasis on the ambient.

[Aetherius]

yeah, try Tailcave out, I guess.

[Monobrow]

Hmmm...well, I haven't been having any fun with Turtle Rock at all...and actually have been working on a Tail Cave track myself...

But I guess it's up to Starky in the end anyway. I'll still be working on it.

Edit: Hmmm, to the guy who is also working on Tail Cave, if you would like to collab on Tail Cave, I have some stuff down so far, rather than us competing. But it's up to you.

[DarkeSword]

Moved to WIP.

[Slothboy]

Well, I'm new to the forums but not new to music production. I'd love to take on an unassigned track for this.

A demo of my work:

http://www.soundclick.com/util/downloadSong.cfm?ID=3053144&key=AF663066-4

[Usa]

joah... Looks nice so far. :)

EDIT: I will give Turtle Rock a try, since I have some ideas in my head, and Monobrow just officially left that song. Just to let all of ya' know :)

[Hemophiliac]

i was just informed that Blizi was going to be dropping Tal Tal Heights, and if thus...Unknown and myself would be picking it up in collaboration. :D

[Aetherius]

damnit, how come I don't know about this?

Hemo, that would be nice.

[ShinnyMetal]

Hey...I would Like to do Key Cavern If I may still do so ^^

[Aetherius]

Just on an important note:

the point of this thread is to keep everyone up to date on what's going on, etc.

So...if you can't do your song, or you want to do something different, let me know before you throw all your eggs into a new basket.

Also, Like I've said a million times, you can't go saying 'hey, I'll take this song~!' before I've even heard whether your music is worth listening to any more than it's worth listening to a cow fart, skidmarks.

[ShinnyMetal]

Just on an important note:

the point of this thread is to keep everyone up to date on what's going on, etc.

So...if you can't do your song, or you want to do something different, let me know before you throw all your eggs into a new basket.

Also, Like I've said a million times, you can't go saying 'hey, I'll take this song~!' before I've even heard whether your music is worth listening to any more than it's worth listening to a cow fart, skidmarks.

well I can give you something easily (I just figure for some reason you had...cause it is on this forum...so yeah ^^; )

http://rapidshare.de/files/7293569/BleedMyTears.mp3.html

BAM

there

[I.Medley]

Just on an important note:

the point of this thread is to keep everyone up to date on what's going on, etc.

So...if you can't do your song, or you want to do something different, let me know before you throw all your eggs into a new basket.

Also, Like I've said a million times, you can't go saying 'hey, I'll take this song~!' before I've even heard whether your music is worth listening to any more than it's worth listening to a cow fart, skidmarks.

well I can give you something easily (I just figure for some reason you had...cause it is on this forum...so yeah ^^; )

http://rapidshare.de/files/7293569/BleedMyTears.mp3.html

BAM

there

You really should indicate that this is a WIP, and not a fully completed mix. That may color his opinion somewhat.

Unless, of course, it is already complete.

[ShinnyMetal]

Just on an important note:

the point of this thread is to keep everyone up to date on what's going on, etc.

So...if you can't do your song, or you want to do something different, let me know before you throw all your eggs into a new basket.

Also, Like I've said a million times, you can't go saying 'hey, I'll take this song~!' before I've even heard whether your music is worth listening to any more than it's worth listening to a cow fart, skidmarks.

well I can give you something easily (I just figure for some reason you had...cause it is on this forum...so yeah ^^; )

http://rapidshare.de/files/7293569/BleedMyTears.mp3.html

BAM

there

You really should indicate that this is a WIP, and not a fully completed mix. That may color his opinion somewhat.

Unless, of course, it is already complete.


If I do anything else it is volume tweeks that it..it is technicly finished in my book.

[prophetik music]

hey aeth

i recorded my sax parts today. i guess i wrote the part more difficult than i thought...

well, anyways, i'll have a much more updated wip very soon. after i insert the sax parts, and adjust some volumes, i'll be done. BWAHAHAHA FIRST DONE

[Aetherius]

with regards to that 'I just figured you had' comment, a few posts ago... No, I haven't. These forums are shit. read the first post.

[DistantJ]

Damn, didn't see this thread in time! I did a remix of Ballad of the Windfish a long time ago which everybody seemed to love, and I had been thinking about revisiting it (from scratch) now that I have so much more experience, could have been in this project, heh, nevermind, I'll still make the song. =)

[Slothboy]

Aeth,

I posted a request on the last page... Metal got a reply but I didn't.


Any songs left without mixers?

[Usa]

Aeth,

I posted a request on the last page... Metal got a reply but I didn't.

Prolly you're not l337 enough :)

[Aetherius]

there are about 3 and a half songs left.

However, Magininja has the prior claim on either 'inside the egg' or 'the last battle'

Rev, sorry. I'm giving tailcave to Monobrow. If you want, try one of the other songs. If you're interested, also try 'mysterious woods' or slime cave, considering Doug doesn't look like he even remembers he's on the project...

Usa, your bitterness saddens and amuses me. refrain from posting again, unless you have something non flammatory to say.

Slothboy, I'll take a look at your song, but I'm getting swamped with remixers, and I'm running low on songs to divide between people. I may simply have to tell people no whether or not they've got the talent I'm looking for or not. Apologies to all.

Also, for the record, If I complain about your sound quality, and you love your sound quality, then we have issues. I will not allow something with sounds I dislike to be on the project, so the ultimate solution is to find something I do like, or shove off. I'd prefer the former, especially if the other parts of the song are good.

anyway, that's all today. I'll try to get confirmations from the aforementioned people who are telling me they're doing a song, and haven't turned anything up for me yet.

Sorry if you don't get included in the project, it's just the way things go. Seventeen tracks is a lot of songs, but eighteen remixers is still one too many.

Edit: Slothboy,
I've just listened to your FFVIII remix...butas cool as it may be...I'm not looking for dance or techno or trance or that kind of thing. I'm looking for mellow slowed down stuff, so...if you have anything like that to show me, that'd be good, cause I don't know from this whether you can actually do what I'm looking for.

[ShinnyMetal]

I can take anything I posted a song further up. I can understand if you don't want me in this...just let me know.

I am also sorry for being so naive

here is the song again, incase you didn't notice it:



Candlelit Corridors (bloody Tears) (http://rapidshare.de/files/7293569/BleedMyTears.mp3.html)

[Astantia]

Good luck guys, I'm looking forward to this.

[Ichitootah]

I can take anything I posted a song further up. I can understand if you don't want me in this...just let me know.

I am also sorry for being so naive

here is the song again, incase you didn't notice it:



Candlelit Corridors (bloody Tears) (http://rapidshare.de/files/7293569/BleedMyTears.mp3.html)

Just FYI your song has almost a minute of silence at the end, unless winamp deceives me. And yeah, sorry I wasn't here for the anything, kinda forgot about it. But it looks like you've got enough mixers anyway so whatever. Good luck.

[Usa]

Usa, your bitterness saddens and amuses me. refrain from posting again, unless you have something non flammatory to say.

What bitterness? As you might have noticed already, I'm not down or something now just because you don't want me on the project. There's always VGMix! :)

Also, for the record, If I complain about your sound quality, and you love your sound quality, then we have issues. I will not allow something with sounds I dislike to be on the project, so the ultimate solution is to find something I do like, or shove off. I'd prefer the former, especially if the other parts of the song are good.

It's OK to give hints what you like and what not, but it's not OK to take away artistic freedom from remixers by telling them what to do and what not in such a nitpicky way. Unless you want them to be remixing slaves, instead of remixers. But then, wouldn't it be best if you took over all of the tracks to ensure they are exactly the way you like them to be? Yes, this is the truth. Face it, man! :P

And talking about flammatory or unfriendly manners, there are more friendly ways to say you don't like a mix to be on the project, for example "Sorry, but this is not exactly the sound I was looking for, I don't think it fits the planned project's mood" or something like that. We could have talked about everything, I might even have changed the sounds you didn't like that much - but the way you talked with/about me didn't make me feel like I was accepted and respected as a human being in the first place. And that is the main reason why I don't feel like participating anymore.

[Aetherius]

What bitterness? As you might have noticed already, I'm not down or something now just because you don't want me on the project. There's always VGMix! :)

There is no such thing as Vgmix, it is a fiction, created by virt to let angry people think they have talent, to the sane population, it's a horror story.



It's OK to give hints what you like and what not, but it's not OK to take away artistic freedom from remixers by telling them what to do and what not in such a nitpicky way. Unless you want them to be remixing slaves, instead of remixers. But then, wouldn't it be best if you took over all of the tracks to ensure they are exactly the way you like them to be? Yes, this is the truth. Face it, man! :P


It is entirely okay for me to tell you what you can and can't do on this project. It's my project. read the first page.


And talking about flammatory or unfriendly manners, there are more friendly ways to say you don't like a mix to be on the project, for example "Sorry, but this is not exactly the sound I was looking for, I don't think it fits the planned project's mood" or something like that. We could have talked about everything, I might even have changed the sounds you didn't like that much - but the way you talked with/about me didn't make me feel like I was accepted and respected as a human being in the first place. And that is the main reason why I don't feel like participating anymore.

The song was the type of song I was looking for. The sounds you used in the song were not.

It is not in my nature to say something other than what I think, the way I think it.

I didn't talk about you.

You weren't participating, originally.


Furthermore, I hereby declare that should anyone even THINK of making a post in this thread, they must read the first post, and click any links therein.

As the person running the project, it is at my discretion which songs are given to whom, who may be given a song, and what kind of song I want to be given, in which way.

Whether I limit your creative freedom is not at question. I most certainly will limit your creative freedom, for the good of the project, and for the good of my sanity. I stated from the beginning that I view all of the songs on this soundtrack with reverence, and I feel that for my own sake, the songs should be remixed, and remixed how I see fit.

I see no reason in starting a project, and allowing it to have songs I dislike on it. That's ridiculous.

The wips I have from the people already on the project are exemplary of the way I would like this project to sound, and they do a very good job. I haven't had to limit anyone's 'creative freedom' as yet, beyond the original stipulations regarding genre and mood. I imagine this is because I would not allow there to be someone on my project who would not be able to meet the requirements I've laid out.

If you don't like the way I do things, tough, go remix on your own, or join another project with a nicer producer. Or suck it up. I do things my way, and I'm open to change and suggestion, but I have no sympathy for those who refuse to accept my terms.
I'm in charge.
Tough titty.

Now, I will have no more posts in this thread that are in any way argumentative. As of now, this thread is, and should be for the recruitment of remixers, and assignment of tracks. When all the tracks are assigned, and everyone has a wip ready, I will release the wips, and we can all start discussing the wips, but until then, this thread is strictly business.

Starting.....now.

I love you all, but not nearly as I love myself and raspberry pie,

Starky

edit: Shinny,
I'll get to you tomorrow, no worries.

[ShinnyMetal]

I can take anything I posted a song further up. I can understand if you don't want me in this...just let me know.

I am also sorry for being so naive

here is the song again, incase you didn't notice it:



Candlelit Corridors (bloody Tears) (http://rapidshare.de/files/7293569/BleedMyTears.mp3.html)

Just FYI your song has almost a minute of silence at the end, unless winamp deceives me. And yeah, sorry I wasn't here for the anything, kinda forgot about it. But it looks like you've got enough mixers anyway so whatever. Good luck.


I KNOW grrr...I donno what is making it happen, it drives me absolutely insane, it doesn't show up when im working on the song however -.- ugh

edit: Shinny,
I'll get to you tomorrow, no worries.

No biggy, take your time

[prophetik music]

uh, aeth - you might want to change the name of the thread. we don't need mixers anymore, from what i can see.

EDIT - i like raspberry pie too.

[ShinnyMetal]

uh, aeth - you might want to change the name of the thread. we don't need mixers anymore, from what i can see.

well there are still songs open, there are many signed up, just not all of them have picked...as seeing the ones that say "undecided"

so there is still possible room for someone if they get on it and attack it (metaphoricly)

[Sinewav]

Hey, um... it says on the main page that Monobrow has Tail Cave... did I get bumped out of the project, or did you just forget to add my name? I PM'd him earlier about collaborating.

Also, assuming that I'm still in, when you say that you want the songs to be "moody", are you looking for a darker sound or a more peaceful sound?

[Aetherius]

Rev, go back a page or two. I made a hugetacular post.

Edit: Rev. Bryant,
'Mood' should be more melancholic than dark, but preferably dark, as opposed to say...uplifting and euphoric. The kind of mood I'm looking for is like the kind of feeling that comes from altruism, which is like 'Holy crap, the main character died....but it's for a good cause!' kind of deal. I'm looking for something gloomy. Not so much peaceful as nostalgic, and Not so much dark as melancholy. Y'dig? (end edit.)

Also, yeah, you haven't been bumped out of the project, but I decided that having heard monobrow's pre-existing wip, it was just the sort of thing I was looking for, and I think I'd like her to do it.

Feel free to collaborate on it, by all means. I haven't bumped you out of the project. If you decide not to collab, there is still turtle rock (sort of), the last battle, inside the egg, and key cavern to be had, as well as possible collaborations with any of the other remixers. I suggest you contact them, if you're interested. (the last track isn't going to be looked at until all the other songs have been assigned, and we know everyone's workload.)

We had some issues with turtle rock, which resulted in me making the decision that since monobrow can no longer do Turtle Rock (for some reason) She can do tailcave. Though, normally I would have made the track fair game for anyone, having heard Monobrow's wip, I feel she would produce the remix I want for that song. That is not to say that you (Rev. bryant) would/will not have done a good job, but politics and obligations... *Slaps forehead*

Anyway, that's why Tailcave is weird.

Now, Why is turtle Rock weird?
We had an issue (again) in which Monobrow felt she could no longer continue with that track, and enlisted Usa (without my prior knowledge) to do the track for her. As it turned out, his wip was cool, but I had issues with the sound of his drums, and his use of one of the nastiest rhodes-y bell things I've ever heard (seriously, right out of a phil collins song, or something) Anyway, he was not pleased by my dislike of his sounds, and got in a little tizzy about it. So... Long story less long, I've decided that no one will do turtle Rock unless they show a genuine interest in the song, and are able to show me that they can produce something reasonable. I made my stance on any issues of any kind with the wips a few posts back (read it.)

So, as things stand, Turtle Rock is off limits unless someone can get excited about it, and be willing to produce something that follows my terms. If no one comes forward, I will be doing the track myself, I suppose....which, due to my laziness will slow down the progress of the project like...8 fold (doesn't make sense).

That said, I don't imagine there's a lot I can do with the track, so it is my hope that someone will present me with a reasonable wip (not an audition, a wip.) which would exemplify the qualities I just mentioned like 3 times.

that is all.

Love from starky, but not his pants, starky doesn't love his own pants enough for them to love you.

[Escariot]

Damn, didn't see this thread in time! I did a remix of Ballad of the Windfish a long time ago which everybody seemed to love, and I had been thinking about revisiting it (from scratch) now that I have so much more experience, could have been in this project, heh, nevermind, I'll still make the song. =)

Did you do the awesome one with the birds in the intro and the deathly heavy kick?

[Monobrow]

Also, yeah, you haven't been bumped out of the project, but I decided that having heard monobrow's pre-existing wip, it was just the sort of thing I was looking for, and I think I'd like her to do it.

Feel free to collaborate on it, by all means. I haven't bumped you out of the project. If you decide not to collab, there is still turtle rock (sort of), the last battle, inside the egg, and key cavern to be had, as well as possible collaborations with any of the other remixers. I suggest you contact them, if you're interested. (the last track isn't going to be looked at until all the other songs have been assigned, and we know everyone's workload.)

We had some issues with turtle rock, which resulted in me making the decision that since monobrow can no longer do Turtle Rock (for some reason) She can do tailcave. Though, normally I would have made the track fair game for anyone, having heard Monobrow's wip, I feel she would produce the remix I want for that song. That is not to say that you (Rev. bryant) would/will not have done a good job, but politics and obligations... *Slaps forehead*

Anyway, that's why Tailcave is weird.

Now, Why is turtle Rock weird?
We had an issue (again) in which Monobrow felt she could no longer continue with that track, and enlisted Usa (without my prior knowledge) to do the track for her. As it turned out, his wip was cool, but I had issues with the sound of his drums, and his use of one of the nastiest rhodes-y bell things I've ever heard (seriously, right out of a phil collins song, or something) Anyway, he was not pleased by my dislike of his sounds, and got in a little tizzy about it. So... Long story less long, I've decided that no one will do turtle Rock unless they show a genuine interest in the song, and are able to show me that they can produce something reasonable. I made my stance on any issues of any kind with the wips a few posts back (read it.)




To clarify a bit: I think I most certainly *could* have produced a Turtle Rock track, but given that I'm 4 months from graduating, and pretty much swamped at school, I didn't feel as if I had enough time to really put the song together, the way I had imagined. Nothing I did was worthy of it. I didn't like where I was taking it at all. I have all these "parts" done, but I couldn't tie them together properly, the way I wanted to. Tail Cave has been much easier.

Also, I remember having a talk about this with Starky, telling him I was having some trouble with the track, and he said, for the most part that I could pick something else that wasn't taken. So around the time you posted, Rev., I had started working on my version of Tail Cave, not knowing it had been taken (and not sure if I was going to attempt it either) Fast forward to a couple days later, I am please with my version of Tail Cave, so I post about it, and Starky isn't around for a couple days.

Then I showed it to my friend Usa, and he wondered what I had done it for, and I told him about the project. He showed some interest in it, and since Turtle Rock was now open, he volunteered to give it a try. I basically told him I wasn't sure what would happen, and that Starky wasn't around, but he decided to make an "audition" track to try it out. No harm done.

*No where did I say that I gave Usa permission to do the track, though I did feel bad about it, but I was thankful for him volunteering to help. He knew that whatever he did wasn't part of the project yet until he got some okay, but no one thought it would hurt to start working on it anyway. Why waste time waiting for an okay when you can get your ideas down "now"? Basically, we didn't think it was a big deal.

The next day, there was a lot of miscommunication, and drama, and here we are.

Anyway, I pmed you, Rev, about what we can do, if anything. All this mess was just bad timing. But that's how it goes I guess.

[prophetik music]

so...someone want to send me the midi and mp3 of turtle rock, so i can take a shot at it?

[Arek the Absolute]

What bitterness? As you might have noticed already, I'm not down or something now just because you don't want me on the project. There's always VGMix! :)

There is no such thing as Vgmix, it is a fiction, created by virt to let angry people think they have talent, to the sane population, it's a horror story.



It's OK to give hints what you like and what not, but it's not OK to take away artistic freedom from remixers by telling them what to do and what not in such a nitpicky way. Unless you want them to be remixing slaves, instead of remixers. But then, wouldn't it be best if you took over all of the tracks to ensure they are exactly the way you like them to be? Yes, this is the truth. Face it, man! :P


It is entirely okay for me to tell you what you can and can't do on this project. It's my project. read the first page.


And talking about flammatory or unfriendly manners, there are more friendly ways to say you don't like a mix to be on the project, for example "Sorry, but this is not exactly the sound I was looking for, I don't think it fits the planned project's mood" or something like that. We could have talked about everything, I might even have changed the sounds you didn't like that much - but the way you talked with/about me didn't make me feel like I was accepted and respected as a human being in the first place. And that is the main reason why I don't feel like participating anymore.

The song was the type of song I was looking for. The sounds you used in the song were not.

It is not in my nature to say something other than what I think, the way I think it.

I didn't talk about you.

You weren't participating, originally.


Furthermore, I hereby declare that should anyone even THINK of making a post in this thread, they must read the first post, and click any links therein.

As the person running the project, it is at my discretion which songs are given to whom, who may be given a song, and what kind of song I want to be given, in which way.

Whether I limit your creative freedom is not at question. I most certainly will limit your creative freedom, for the good of the project, and for the good of my sanity. I stated from the beginning that I view all of the songs on this soundtrack with reverence, and I feel that for my own sake, the songs should be remixed, and remixed how I see fit.

I see no reason in starting a project, and allowing it to have songs I dislike on it. That's ridiculous.

The wips I have from the people already on the project are exemplary of the way I would like this project to sound, and they do a very good job. I haven't had to limit anyone's 'creative freedom' as yet, beyond the original stipulations regarding genre and mood. I imagine this is because I would not allow there to be someone on my project who would not be able to meet the requirements I've laid out.

If you don't like the way I do things, tough, go remix on your own, or join another project with a nicer producer. Or suck it up. I do things my way, and I'm open to change and suggestion, but I have no sympathy for those who refuse to accept my terms.
I'm in charge.
Tough titty.

Now, I will have no more posts in this thread that are in any way argumentative. As of now, this thread is, and should be for the recruitment of remixers, and assignment of tracks. When all the tracks are assigned, and everyone has a wip ready, I will release the wips, and we can all start discussing the wips, but until then, this thread is strictly business.

Starting.....now.

I love you all, but not nearly as I love myself and raspberry pie,

Starky

edit: Shinny,
I'll get to you tomorrow, no worries.


lol internet = serious business

[Usa]

[...] Anyway, he was not pleased by my dislike of his sounds, and got in a little tizzy about it. [...]

That is just not true. When I went to #laproject together with Monobrow to explain the situation, I showed the WIP to Aetherius to know if he wants to take the mix on the project or if I can release it on VGMix, in case he doesn't like it. Turned out that he didn't like it, but that's not a big deal, since I was already prepared for that outcome. So, no drama involved. The only thing I found a bit unfriendly was the way he talked about my mix, but that's none of my business anymore since I am not taking part in anything depicted in this thread here.

[Aetherius]

I didn't dislike it. I liked it.
You were adverse to changing the things about it that I didn't like so much.

[Slothboy]

Aeth,

I can totally do slow and melancholic :)

I don't really have anything to show you, however... So I can understand you wouldn't be willing to hand over something to someone whom you're not sure is going to produce the right thing.

So, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion, could I possibly work on a song *unofficially* and show you a WIP by the end of the weekend?

If so, which song would you like me to do? I've listened to all the "free" ones and feel I could do any of them, so it's up to you.


If not, that's totally cool. I understand :)

[Aetherius]

Slothboy, you may do what you've asked, but for the sake of the project, I'm asking that rather than do one of the tracks in my tracklisting, you do the following:

As of now, anybody who is accepted to the project, but hasn't got a track, is allowed to go through the .gbs themselves, and select a track that sounds sufficiently different from the tracks I have already selected to do. They can unofficially work on those songs, and post their wips here, and if there is room, and if the product is good enough, I will include it in the project. Please do not do this unless I have okay'd you as an artist for the project. Also, these tracks must be in the same style as I have set out for all other tracks.
Again, please try to pick songs which are different from the other tracks, yet melodic enough to actually base a song on. That said, remixes of the 'piece of power song' are unacceptable, as there is not enough material to produce something worthwhile that can still be considered a remix. y'dig?

If I get enough songs of this type, I may be able to extend the album to two discs, which would be convenient.

Slothboy, you are officially an unofficial member of the project :P

Good luck.

[prophetik music]

so...someone want to send me the midi and mp3 of turtle rock, so i can take a shot at it?

[ShinnyMetal]

so...someone want to send me the midi and mp3 of turtle rock, so i can take a shot at it?

go to VGMUSIC.COM

the ultimate data base for midi's

:P

[Eposhark]

so...someone want to send me the midi and mp3 of turtle rock, so i can take a shot at it?

You can also get the original .gbs file from this site, and then look at the right number of the song in the first post of this thread.

[prophetik music]

for some reason, i can't get gbs files to play, no matter what player i got and no matter where i put it. thats why i requested an mp3 of the file - i know we had them on that aborted site that this project was using, but i don't have the url anymore.

[ShinnyMetal]

for some reason, i can't get gbs files to play, no matter what player i got and no matter where i put it. thats why i requested an mp3 of the file - i know we had them on that aborted site that this project was using, but i don't have the url anymore.

if you didn't know, you play the .gbs files on a gameboy emulator

[prophetik music]

oh. thanks.

[Rexy]

Still making headway on my track, although IT essays have been bringing me down a lil bit more than the usual. I will have a finished product before I leave campus, I assure you.

I see that there are only two tracks on the main album remaining. I've PM'd Gray while thinking our styles would fit better on Inside the Egg more so than the Final Battle theme (it screams prog rock, I'm telling you :)). I'll be back in contact as soon as I get a response.

[KyleJCrb]

the Final Battle theme (it screams prog rock, I'm telling you :)).

Did someone say prog rock? Well then, that someone better call Christian Pacaud or PriZm for this thing! :P

[prophetik music]

the Final Battle theme (it screams prog rock, I'm telling you :)).

Did someone say prog rock? Well then, that someone better call Christian Pacaud or PriZm for this thing! :P
i like PriZm. he's good.

wait, what happened to the whole ambient or orchestral thing? i'm done with a chill classical track, so someone better not tell me i coulda tranced this and been done like two weeks earlier.

[Aetherius]

they're not in charge.

Though, slow/moody prog rock is basically the only kind of rock that IS acceptable for this.

[Aetherius]

Double Post/bump!

for the record, Hemophiliac has withdrawn his 'services' from this production, as he feels that he and I will 'clash' too much.

I agree.

He and I hold some very different views about music.


Because I think it will be beneficial to the project members, allow me to elaborate on my particular view.

Music is instinctual.
The only kind of 'real' music is the kind that is made through intuition, instinct, and personal preference. Music theory is a theory of structure, which dismisses the emotional and personal qualities of a song in favour of the structure of that song.

So, when listening to music, it is important to appreciate the song for what it is. A song, not what makes it a song. Musical structure is a coincidence, not an inevitability. Refuse to be told how to write music. Write music how it comes out. Write music like an uncontrollable liquid bowel movement. Music isn't a lego tower, it's a waterfall. Music just is.

Now, go write music. Don't make it.

Yeah, it's 5 in the flippin' morning. Let me wax poetic while I'm still awake.

[Hemophiliac]

you shouldn't have asked me to elaborate on the one thing...and all would be good wouldn't it?

[Slothboy]

Aeth, check your PMs.

[Aetherius]

you shouldn't have asked me to elaborate on the one thing...and all would be good wouldn't it?

I really don't care that you're gone.
All is, and always was good.

[Tyler Heath]

is there any particular reason you're being such an ass to hemo aside from some dissenting opinions, or is it just an everyday thing for you?


edit:

ah, ok. from what I've gathered from reading this thread, it's an everyday thing. sorry to have disturbed, keep up the assery.

[Aetherius]

is there any particular reason you're being such an ass to hemo aside from some dissenting opinions, or is it just an everyday thing for you?
edit:
ah, ok. from what I've gathered from reading this thread, it's an everyday thing. sorry to have disturbed, keep up the assery.

If honesty and thinking that music should be about the emotions it produces, and not its structure equates being an ass, then ok.
(hah, that sentence has a poor structure, doesn't it?)


The project will continue as planned.

If anyone has issues with the way I plan to continue running this project, then either talk it out with me or leave. I will continue to respond honestly.

If I demand that my remixers have a personal connection with the songs, It doesn't seem to me that I'm asking too much. I just want a good, heartfelt project, not some robotic 'I can mix this, because I can mix anything' attitude.

Good luck to everyone who remains, I anticipate at least one more of these little coups. Sorry for the inconvenience. Try to ignore it, and do your best.


edit: if anyone's wondering where these crazy happenings are going on, it's usually in #laproject, so judge for yourselves.

[Ichitootah]

If I demand that my remixers have a personal connection with the songs, It doesn't seem to me that I'm asking too much. I just want a good, heartfelt project, not some robotic 'I can mix this, because I can mix anything' attitude.


Just out of curiosity does this mean that you only accept remixers that have played the game and love the theme personally or something? Or do they form the personal connection with the song on the spot?

[Aetherius]

Either. *shrugs* I just want the remixers to appreciate the songs for what they are. (no, not 'on the spot' but it's not so hard to grow to love a piece of music. If you don't like the material, you're not likely to do a very good job of remixing it.)

I don't want them to tackle the songs as a challenge, but to pay tribute to songs that they think are worthy of tribute.

[Tyler Heath]

If honesty and thinking that music should be about the emotions it produces, and not its structure equates being an ass, then ok.
(hah, that sentence has a poor structure, doesn't it?)

you're assuming I'm responding to your opinion on music. I'm not. I was actually talking about your response to hemo's question.

however.

it seems to me that you're saying that music should be pure, raw emotion and no refined elements, thus making music on the whole a hit-or-miss scenario. it also sounds like you think your opinion on music should override centuries of work and theorizing and structuring that defines what elements within music are. music theory is an organization tool - a way to teach musicians what can sound good, what usually sounds bad, and how to write in a way that is generally appealing. music written solely by intuition would eventually result in a catastrophic array of dissonance and generic chord progressions.

on another note, the more I read of what you post in this thread, the more it's beginning to seem like your entire aim in this project is to get people to arrange these songs purely for your enjoyment. it's like a "screw everyone else, screw the artist, do it my way or go to hell" kind of attitude.

but hey. I'm not in charge of this project, so in this regard my opinion is apparently null and void when the all-deciding project leader steps in.

[Aetherius]

on another note, the more I read of what you post in this thread, the more it's beginning to seem like your entire aim in this project is to get people to arrange these songs purely for your enjoyment. it's like a "screw everyone else, screw the artist, do it my way or go to hell" kind of attitude.

but hey. I'm not in charge of this project, so in this regard my opinion is apparently null and void when the all-deciding project leader steps in.

I knew what you were responding to. But my response wasn't intended to be malicious. I was setting him straight. His opinion was that anything he produced would be better than what anyone else on this project could produce. He thought that his contribution to the project would be worth more than the other contributions, and he would be wrong in thinking that. All contributions will be equal.

"screw everyone else, screw the artist, do it my way or go to hell" <-- yeah, that basically sums it up.
However, 'my way' is looser than you make it seem. My way, as stated in the first post is that the songs must evoke nostaligic and melancholic emotions, and preferably feature at least two of three genres, rock, ambient, and orchestral. That's not such a hard thing to do. I wasn't asking people who usually make trance music to make orchestral. I was asking people who usually make rock/ambient/orchestral to join the project, and do what they do best.

Then things get tricky.

The deciding factor is...whether I like it or not.
I'm not that picky, really. I get picky when it comes to low quality samples, or wrong notes, but in general, if someone produces something good and solid, which fits in with the project's intended mood, I'll leave it alone. In some instances, in which...I feel that a lead sounds extremely out of place, as was the case with one of chthonic's wips, I 'd ask to replace that with something more fitting. These are merely suggestions, but if something simply refuses to reconcile itself with me, I will be inclined to reject it.

That said, my motivation doesn't have to be the same motivation as that of the mixers. If my reasoning is basically: "screw everyone else, screw the artist, do it my way or go to hell" That doesn't mean that a mixer has to feel that they are my pawn, or doing me a favour. I want them to feel as though they're doing themselves a favour, or a service to the community.

Unfortunately, I have a very strong emotional attachment to this music, and it is my perogative, as the person who is (poorly) running this project, to have people and music that would do justice to the originalk music on it. Sorry if you feel that it should be a free-for-all, but I have to draw the line somewhere. I'm not censoring your freedom of expression by telling you that 'your shitty drum samples make my ears bleed' though that sort of talk is unnecessarily antagonistic, for which I apologise.

Meanwhile, I feel that ignoring expression and emotion in music is lice censoring one's own freedom of expression.

...Anyway.
If I can stop myself, I will not respond to any more of these off-topic posts regarding my motivation or decisions. This project is about enhancement and appreciation, not for posts, which essentially say 'OMG STARKY'S AN ASSHOLE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE HAPPY SONGS ON HIS PROJECT!'

End topic.

So, who wants Tal Tal?

[ShinnyMetal]

I could experiment around with some ideas on Tal Tal

[Monobrow]

If honesty and thinking that music should be about the emotions it produces, and not its structure equates being an ass, then ok.
(hah, that sentence has a poor structure, doesn't it?)


however.

it seems to me that you're saying that music should be pure, raw emotion and no refined elements, thus making music on the whole a hit-or-miss scenario. it also sounds like you think your opinion on music should override centuries of work and theorizing and structuring that defines what elements within music are. music theory is an organization tool - a way to teach musicians what can sound good, what usually sounds bad, and how to write in a way that is generally appealing. music written solely by intuition would eventually result in a catastrophic array of dissonance and generic chord progressions.

Believe it or not, there is another side to this argument. I agree what music theory is nice, and arguably essential somewhat, if you are a serious musician. But there have been COUNTLESS people who have NOT studied theory, and yet have come out and contributed to society with wonderful music anyway. Not all music written solely by intuition can be categorized as eventually becoming bad, because music is an art form, and "good" and "bad" is all in the eye of the beholder. If you don't like something, that's up to you, but if you don't like something just because it's not holding up to a learned value, maybe you should take another look around and open your mind up a bit more.

Even though I have never extensively studied music theory, I can appreciate its value, and if I had the time, I would probably be a lot more interested, because like any art form, if you really want to "master" it, you need to have some sort of foundation to get your foot through the door, and then practice, practice, practice, until you find your voice. BUT, there are people who are naturally gifted, and most likely, their sense of "music theory" is in itself, intuitive. It's "there", even if you don't know it.

This takes away from saying that intuitive music will end up being "bad". Maybe some random music professor told you this, but I have seen plenty of people just improv-ing some wonderful sounds, that if they based their chord changes, etc. solely on theory, would never take the chance to try something new. What I mean by this, I guess, is that it all depends on your confidence level as a musician, naturally, or studied, or both. Also, if I were to apply theory in any sort of fashion, I'd do it as an afterthought, to figure out "why" I liked a certain song, or why I didn't like something else, instead of using a set of rules as a basis for writing music. I am not saying that theory is bullshit, etc., in fact, I think it's a good way to go, because if you ever want to break the rules, you have to know what they are first. But, fifty years ago, people were questioning the validity of rock and roll, because they couldn't fit it into their values. They had to "change" what they thought about music. So to me, music theory is one big musical documentary, that has evolved over time, as our way to categorize and figure out why we like those weird sound waves merging together to create a sensation in our brains. Using it as a tool to "write" though, I would think of more as a personality thing.

Emotion is also another wild card. People CAN tell if you put your heart into your music. This is why so much of the music we hear on the radio today is full of "CRAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIN" lyrics, because people can identify with it. It's why there's opera, musicals, movie scores...It's a form of communication. And like all communication, sincerity counts. So I would probably get the impression that someone really cared about the music they were making if they were really into it, relaying some sort of message about it, as opposed to "I am going to use this type of chord progression in this song just to see if I can do it"

Anyway, if I had a point, I can't remember it, but I will say this: In theory, you may think that there is always a right way to do things, but...the word theory, well there you have it.

[KyleJCrb]

Remember, music theory is exactly what it says: a theory. It's not set in stone, and it's not always the best way to do things. Just my two cents.

[Arek the Absolute]

If honesty and thinking that music should be about the emotions it produces, and not its structure equates being an ass, then ok.
(hah, that sentence has a poor structure, doesn't it?)

you're assuming I'm responding to your opinion on music. I'm not. I was actually talking about your response to hemo's question.

however.

it seems to me that you're saying that music should be pure, raw emotion and no refined elements, thus making music on the whole a hit-or-miss scenario. it also sounds like you think your opinion on music should override centuries of work and theorizing and structuring that defines what elements within music are. music theory is an organization tool - a way to teach musicians what can sound good, what usually sounds bad, and how to write in a way that is generally appealing. music written solely by intuition would eventually result in a catastrophic array of dissonance and generic chord progressions.

on another note, the more I read of what you post in this thread, the more it's beginning to seem like your entire aim in this project is to get people to arrange these songs purely for your enjoyment. it's like a "screw everyone else, screw the artist, do it my way or go to hell" kind of attitude.

but hey. I'm not in charge of this project, so in this regard my opinion is apparently null and void when the all-deciding project leader steps in.


Good f'ing show.

Seriously though, this project is about remixing a groovy kick me in the butt man that was good soundtrack. Everyone has their own guidelines for their project. If that is how starky wants to run it, then let him run it.
Just wanting to say though, that this is getting a LOT of bad hype, sadly...This drama has to go or noone will really take this seriously :(

[Aetherius]

*yawns* a much needed grey area.

If anyone hadn't noticed...we have 16 mixers, and 16 tracks. If each of us does one song...we're gold.

speaking of bad hype:
Any more drama from people who have already created drama, will be regarded as sabotage. :D
How ya like them apples?

[Escariot]

...you people give me a headache...

[Arek the Absolute]

...you people give me a headache...

Comes with any project. Gotta love it :)

[Usa]

I didn't dislike it. I liked it.
You were adverse to changing the things about it that I didn't like so much.

*sigh* Why do I have to put all the things right that people put wrong here?

First of all, Aetherius didn't ask me to change anything, he just said how the sounds made him vomit or made his ears bleed. There was not a single positive comment in there, so how in the world should I figure out that he actually liked the mix? There were other people in the channel at that time that can prove me right. This is starting to get ridiculous now...

So.. no drama involved, never intended to create any, sorry to have bothered you with my mix which led to this lengthy discussion...now...will this ever end?

[Aetherius]

I didn't dislike it. I liked it.
You were adverse to changing the things about it that I didn't like so much.

*sigh* Why do I have to put all the things right that people put wrong here?

First of all, Aetherius didn't ask me to change anything, he just said how the sounds made him vomit or made his ears bleed. There was not a single positive comment in there, so how in the world should I figure out that he actually liked the mix? There were other people in the channel at that time that can prove me right. This is starting to get ridiculous now...

So.. no drama involved, never intended to create any, sorry to have bothered you with my mix which led to this lengthy discussion...now...will this ever end?

The argument that involved you fell by the wayside a few days ago. we're on a new one now.

You don't have to set anything right. in fact, the only thing I would suggest that you DO have to do is stop posting here. Do not reply to this post,do not pass go, do not collect self-satisfaction.

I told you at least three times that I liked the mix, but not the sounds.

go away already.

[I.Medley]

I didn't dislike it. I liked it.
You were adverse to changing the things about it that I didn't like so much.

*sigh* Why do I have to put all the things right that people put wrong here?

First of all, Aetherius didn't ask me to change anything, he just said how the sounds made him vomit or made his ears bleed. There was not a single positive comment in there, so how in the world should I figure out that he actually liked the mix? There were other people in the channel at that time that can prove me right. This is starting to get ridiculous now...

So.. no drama involved, never intended to create any, sorry to have bothered you with my mix which led to this lengthy discussion...now...will this ever end?

The argument that involved you fell by the wayside a few days ago. we're on a new one now.

You don't have to set anything right. in fact, the only thing I would suggest that you DO have to do is stop posting here. Do not reply to this post,do not pass go, do not collect self-satisfaction.

I told you at least three times that I liked the mix, but not the sounds.

go away already.

Of course, just because a new topic of discussion has come up doesn't mean that the older one has reached any form of closure.

However, it seems that this drama has already been resolved, in one form or another.

In any event, I just want to encourage all of the remixers on this project. Do your best! Make awesome songs!

[prophetik music]

sweet lord.

when you signed onto the project, you implicitly (sp?) agree to the rules that the project coordinator set down. that's just how it is. so, if Aeth doesn't like something that you've got, QUIT YOUR BITCHING. you're just re-enforcing your immature qualities. Aeth didn't like my original strings in my song, so i changed them, and now it sounds better. that wasn't that hard, was it?

THIS (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=1940) is what he's trying to prevent.

THIS (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=4136) is what you should do.

[Aetherius]

let's just pretend that I don't hate starblast for a moment, and agree with Mr. Mephisto. He's right.

[prophetik music]

i hate fatblast too, i just posted that link cause the name is relevent.

[Ichitootah]

After reading your new rules (in specific, accepted mixers can look through the GBS and remix a song for the project), I'd like to re-audition. I already have a 2:00 WIP which can serve as my audition piece as well. Though it obviously has a LOT of things that need to be cleaned up, and doesn't feature all that much of the theme at this point (though I'm just getting into a theme-intensive section) it should do. It'll be a remix of Weird Mister Write. I'm pretty good about taking criticism as well, so feel free to do your worst.

WIP (http://www.tindeck.com/audio/my?loc=137cp-Mr.WriteWIP.mp3)

[Usa]

sweet lord.

when you signed onto the project, you implicitly (sp?) agree to the rules that the project coordinator set down. that's just how it is. so, if Aeth doesn't like something that you've got, QUIT YOUR BITCHING.

Sweet Lord, *that's* TOO much now!

1) I haven't signed onto this project to start with. I merely volunteered to do a song and thought I would make someone happy with it. I was prepared that it might not fit in the project because I haven't asked before, and that's how it turned out in the end.

2) Aeth did NOT tell me to change it, just how he hates it. I could post the chatlog here, but I won't because it would just add drama to the whole situation here. Just believe me it was this way.

3) I know Aeth told me not to post here again, but that *IS* too much now, really! You can't accuse me of things I haven't done at all! So, and now I ask you a favor in return for not posting here anymore. Please don't tell any more things that are not true about me, K? K. Stop bashing me for no reason. Please.

[Aetherius]

Well, I like this wip, Ichitootah. I liked your prior submission too. Pretty kickin.

the only thing that's getting to me is that low warbly voice...thing. I can hear the warbling too well for it to fade into the background, and make the other elements come out.

Meanwhile...wow, where'd the melody go? Heh, I can hear it somewhat in that guitar solo...thingy. I look forward to seeing what this'll turn into. Back onto the list you go.

Also, just for informational purposes, the rule about the selection of unused gbs tracks applies only to songs that are not easily recognizeable as a different version of one of the tracks I've already selected.

Some of these tracks which could be done are:
Bottle Grotto (21/96) <I don't recommend this one>
The Hen House (87/96)
Animal Village (if you can come up with something good...) (11/96)
Richard's Villa (64/96)
The Trendy/Fishing Games (2/96) <also 53/96, which is a bit funkier>
Choose a Name (17/96)
Mr. Write's (55/96) <also 50/96. One of the two is Mr. Write's Girlfriend.>

In the event that any or all of these songs can get remixed, I will re-arrange the track order (chronologically. in-game) and split the album into two discs, ending somewhere in the middle, with an average, of possibly 12 tracks on each album. I don't think any of the other tracks are possibilities, really. I hadn't intended to make this a double album. Remixers are still needed. :) Again with the Auditions.

[Aetherius]

3) I know Aeth told me not to post here again, but that *IS* too much now, really! You can't accuse me of things I haven't done at all! So, and now I ask you a favor in return for not posting here anymore. Please don't tell any more things that are not true about me, K? K. Stop bashing me for no reason. Please.

HORY CLAP YOU'RE RIGHT! I SOOOO DID!
...I was kinda expecting you to stop checking this project's thread if you're not interested in its development. It's the logical thing to do.
Secondarily, if you'd been paying attention, you'd know that there are indeed others who feel the same way as you do, but for different reasons, and under different circumstances. The prophet's statements apply to the other people, not you. however, I will agree with his view in saying, 'quit your bitching' we were done with you pages ago. You just keep coming back.

Posts like these are disruptive to the flow of the project.

I hereby declare (with the authourity that I have, to silence your freedom of speach *shifts eyes*) that Should anymore posts arise, like Usa's or Hemophiliac's, or Unknown's, or even some of my own, everybody simply ignore them. Do not post any responses to them. If you have something important to say in the defense of me, or in defense of the project, send it via PM. I will not stand for any more disruptive posts. If necessary, I will attempt to contact a moderator and have them delete the offending posts from this thread, for posterity's sake. I would really like to get this crap over with, so that we can all just make good music, and give it to people who want to listen to good music.

Now, I'd like to direct anyone who reads this thread to the first post, which holds all of the important updates. Unfortunately, due to these disruptive posts, the important things I have to say regarding the status and future of the project are being buried, and no doubt new posters are getting frightened away by the current hostility, which has unfortunately infected our project.

So, this is my quarantine. My hope is that we will find a cure, before the project dies.

That said, DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST.
I'd much prefer that people respond to my previous post, which is actually important.

[Ichitootah]

Erm, just wanted to show another quick WIP to clarify something. I haven't added or changed much, but it should give you a much better idea of what I was thinking with that last section and how the theme will be incorporated (or at least some of how it will be). WIP (http://www.tindeck.com/audio/my?loc=4137o-Mr.WriteWIP.mp3)

[Aetherius]

:P there it is!

:/ I still don't like that warbly/LFO encrusted pad thing you've got going in the background, though.

I really like where this is going. :D

[The Joker]

I'm still alive! Yay! Anyway, I got a wip that I'ma send to you Aeth/starky... whatever you go by these days. I'll PM you a soon as I upload it!

[Aetherius]

I already told Joker via PM the specifics about his wip,
but suffice it to say that it's quite good. :)

I hope everyone else's wips are going well.

[Slothboy]

Aeth, I can't get to the gbs archive because my college network blocks it as a gaming site *rolls eyes*. I can only access the net from here, so is there another way I can get access to those songs?

Thanks.

[Aetherius]

Well, Slothboy, I've just asked Epo to see if he can host it. We'll see.


Meanwhile, I've come to two possible choices for names of this project, both with obvious pros and cons.

Name #1:
Threshold of a Dream

Name #2:
Lid of the Sleeper's Eye

Now, an obvious con for 'Threshold of a dream' is:
-it's the name of a moody blues album, which is probably why it was the first thing that came to mind.

Obvious pro:
-It doesn't abbreviate into a "blank-ot-blank" name like most other projects do.

Obvious cons for 'Lid of The Sleeper's Eye':
-It DOES abbreviate into a "blank-ot-blank" name.
-It's kinda long.

Obvious pro:
-It's a quote from the game, and not the name of a moody blues album.


So...I don't know which to choose.
I will not take suggestions for new names, but if you like one or the other, let me know, and explain why, and eventually I'll choose one.

[Rexy]

And another con for Lid of the Sleeper's Eye is that someone made a remix (LA no less) of the same title (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3066).

But yeah, good to see stuff like that is chipping along :)

[Aetherius]

Works for me. Threshold of a Dream it is!

[Eon_Blue]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/lacover.jpg

Some ideas I'm messing around with right now.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/lacover.jpg

Some ideas I'm messing around with right now.

Eon, you are way way way too sexy.

[prophetik music]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/lacover.jpg

Some ideas I'm messing around with right now.

i still love you, after all this time.

[Aetherius]

Since we've come up with a not-so-clever name for the project, I want everyone to be coming up with Oh-so-clever names for their songs. Good ones. No lame joke ones.

[PriZm]

hey
how about Marin's Dream or Bubble on a Needle ?
they are both quotes from the game if I remember correctly and Bubble on a Needle is quite cool.

[Slothboy]

I think they already decided on Threshold of a Dream.


Aeth, did you realise that abreviates to ToaD? :D

[Aetherius]

oooh, sexy.

[Eposhark]

hey
how about Marin's Dream or Bubble on a Needle ?
they are both quotes from the game if I remember correctly and Bubble on a Needle is quite cool.

Marin's Dream :

PRO : none
CON : It's too specific, Marin's just a character from the game, although a main one. Furthermore, it's not even Marin's dream.

Bubble on a Needle :

PRO : Well, it's something unique
CON : It doesn't fit the project mood, needle is not a melancholic word.

[prophetik music]

hey
how about Marin's Dream or Bubble on a Needle ?
they are both quotes from the game if I remember correctly and Bubble on a Needle is quite cool.

Marin's Dream :

PRO : none
CON : It's too specific, Marin's just a character from the game, although a main one. Furthermore, it's not even Marin's dream.

Bubble on a Needle :

PRO : Well, it's something unique
CON : It doesn't fit the project mood, needle is not a melancholic word.
depends on what you use the needle in conjunction with.

EDIT: wait, fancy clever names? what the hell do you name a saxophone concerto (aria, if you will) of Face Shrine?

[Xenon Odyssey]

what the hell do you name a saxophone concerto (aria, if you will) of Face Shrine?

Facial Jazz.

Of course, I'd call it Facial Jizz, but that's my loopyness from OLR.

[prophetik music]

what the hell do you name a saxophone concerto (aria, if you will) of Face Shrine?

Facial Jazz.

Of course, I'd call it Facial Jizz, but that's my loopyness from OLR.

that doesn't work. its classical, man.

EDIT AGAIN: what do we have to do to get into 'site projects'?

[Aetherius]

...it's also not a very serious title.

[PriZm]

give it a French name, it always sounds serious/classical :wink:

[Xenon Odyssey]

Facial Expressions.

I think that's serious. At least somewhat.

[prophetik music]

aeth suggested something involving the word "facade" - the c having the little thing on the bottom that resembles it having a dump - and i like that. still thinking on it.

also, when it comes out, first person besides aeth to catch the references in my piece gets fresh cookies delivered right to their doorstep, by the mailman.

[Aetherius]

aww, you noticed. How thoughtful.
:( I wanted çookies, too :(

Speaking of which a ç is called a çedilla, I believe

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

the c having the little thing on the bottom that resembles it having a dump - and i like that.

AHAHAH, ok then.

[Chris McGee]

I'm thinking Catfish's Maw - Belly of the Beast

That's like the main reason I picked this song lol

[ShinnyMetal]

for Key Cavern, I was thinking Key of destiny, but in either

french: Clef de Destin

Italian: Chiave del Destino

or

Portuguese: A Tecla de Destino

?

[Rexy]

Any relation to my collab with k-wix (not LA, unfortunately)? :P (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3756)

[12:12:47] <Epo^^> GrayLightning : Graylightning -> Undecided (LA Project)
[12:12:54] <Epo^^> what's up with it ?
[12:14:07] <GrayLightning> man
[12:14:10] <GrayLightning> i've been so busy
[12:14:14] <GrayLightning> rexy pm'd me about it
[12:14:24] <GrayLightning> she asked me to pick one for our collab
[12:14:34] <GrayLightning> i think i'll just ask her to pick any
[12:14:40] <GrayLightning> and I'm down for anything she wants to do
Inside the Egg it is :) KFC has already gone for the final battle (I'm sure it'll fit him), and I can't imagine Tal Tal Heights fitting our style... but yeah.

[ShinnyMetal]

wtf XD that is halarious...seing on how that is what IM calling my key cavern piece (key of destiny) accually I may go with key of Fate..I donno now

[Eposhark]

What about Japanese names for all ? That would be nifty.
ZERUDA NO DENSETSU !!11

[Aetherius]

Or maybe you could name it after that Extra key in that level that you get, and you're all 'GODDAMNIT! WHAT IS THIS KEY FOR?! And there's really no answer....

[Aetherius]

I'm going away this weekend, so 'til sunday night, don't go quitting the project and giving other people your songs, so that we can live another week without dumbass posts.

[ShinnyMetal]

oo....i forgot about that....i'll think of a nifty name

[Aetherius]

I'm going away this weekend, so 'til sunday night, don't go quitting the project and giving other people your songs, so that we can live another week without dumbass posts.

On second thought:

Assfuckshittercuntbananasandwichdogshittacohatebal loonundergarmentsfuckassbitchfuckercockmongeringan uslickscandinavian asspiratingfuckpants.

[prophetik music]

you just wanted to get to 500, loser.

[Aetherius]

What?!

Aww shit. I'm not a red mage anymore.

[Aetherius]

This is a mah-flippin' bump, yo.

...I'm so white.

Anyway, folks, the first deadline fast approacheth. I need like 3 or 4 more mixers, or we're gonna have to double up. Either way, I wanna see some progress, friends.

I'm like the king of unnecesary double-posts. :(

[prophetik music]

dude, isn't there only like three songs still left? i might be able to do something...maybe. send me info on whats left and where to get midis and i might do something.

[PassivePretentiousness]

linkz awakenin' projekt DX

[Aetherius]

dude, isn't there only like three songs still left? i might be able to do something...maybe. send me info on whats left and where to get midis and i might do something.

As far as I can remember, Tal Tal Heights is still kinda open, though, I'll be extremely selective when it comes to auditioning for it, and at the moment, I'd say turtle Rock is open, since I probably don't have time to do it.

Bottle Grotto* (21/96)
The Hen House (87/96)
Animal Village (11/96)
Richard's Villa (64/96)
The Trendy/Fishing Games (2/96)<53/96>
Choose a Name (17/96)*

As yet there are also these songs available.

though, Prophet, I'd like you to help with the final collaborative piece.

[prophetik music]

whoops, forgot about the extra songs.

i'll dig around and see what i like.

[Aetherius]

Still need people, kids.

I wanna see some good stuff come out of this.

[Dafydd]

To anyone who's interested in grabbing Tal tal heights, please consider the idea I suggested back here (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1883137#1883137).

And to the organizer/coordinator/whatever - would this kind of music (the one suggested in the post that I just linked to) fit within the genre-wise boundaries of the project? ... I would love to join the project, but I'm already involved in a thousand things and this would just be one of the many that would become neglected anyway. But as soon as next week, I could squeeze a collab into my schedule (by neglecting a few hours of sleep every week) if someone likes the idea I had. Otherwise I'm not really interested (although I realize that since I'm not okayed for the project I won't be considered anyway).

If you really want a rock/orchestral/electronica version of every song in the soundtrack, you should have grabbed zircon before he posted his "Clash at the mountains" in the "old fashion" way. I don't see the point in making yet another remix of tal tal heights if it doesn't differ significantly in style from zircon's mix, better then to drop it completely from the project, despite the fact that it's one of the most memorable songs in the entire soundtrack.

[Aetherius]

zircon essentially refused to be on the project, both for reasons of time constraints, and he dislikes me. :) which is perfectly understandable.

Edit: One of the main reasons we've been having trouble with this track is that I want to see it done differently than the others do it as well. I refuse to have another 'blah' electronica version. I'd like something experimental, non-genre-specific, and exciting. Something that appeals to a listener without being generic crud.

Meanwhile, I don't particularly think that an old western style remix of Tal Tal heights would at all fit the theme of this project...Sounds like more of a novelty track than a serious endeavour.

[Eposhark]

Stark :

I have had contact with Hadyn, and I asked him if he was interested in joining the project again. He said he'd look into it, and take a shot at Tal Tal Heights.

He's making a wip of the song, to see wether you like where it's going. If you do like it, I suppose you can let him on the project, and let him continue on it. If you don't like it, you could either let him on the project, but for a different song, or just leave him out the project.

Anything else in particular you want me to say to him ?

[Dafydd]

"time constraints"? But the mix is already finished? :) Oh well. It doesn't surprise me that he doesn't like you, I mean, I don't know either one of you, but you give me the impression of being quite an asshole (in a good way, and possibly just for fun):

...this project is for my own pleasure and entertainment, and not yours, and so I don't really give a crap whether anyone but me likes the results...

So:
Wips are to be kept private/secretive.
Keep your stupid ideas to yourselves.

But that's also what makes you funny and part of what makes this thread interesting to read. Every movie, book and forum (etc...) needs its "personalities". :)!! Anyway, if you think my suggestion is a bad idea, that's fine. I just thought it would be something to consider. ... and I hadn't read that very last sentence before. Sorry :-/

Now is the time when I'll just leave,
... so that we can live another week without dumbass posts. :wink: Again, good luck.

[Aetherius]

has anyone else noticed that people take me WAY too seriously?

[KyleJCrb]

Well, the internet is serious business.

[prophetik music]

has anyone else noticed that people take me WAY too seriously?

lol intarweb

as for that final collab thing, gimme an email or pm about what you want. i'll be happy to help.

[Dafydd]

has anyone else noticed that people take me WAY too seriously?

If you think I'm taking you too seriously, then I think you're taking me too seriously. Wow, is that a catch 22? :dstrbd: No, wait, it's just a potentially never ending loop. Meh. Another dumbass post. Sorry. At least it keeps you guys bumped.

[Aetherius]

new wip from the joker, who is apparently not dead. We'll see what it sounds like later tonight.

[prophetik music]

WEEEELLLLL....
how did it sound?

[Aetherius]

...pretty much the same as the last version, with a longer intro.

It has some nice effects midway through. My brain is like screaming 'WHERE'S THE FUCKING BEAT?!' though. We'll see...