Modified MP3 Tagging & Official OCR Album Art! [Archive]

djpretzel

12-01-2010, 02:41 AM

The latest ReMix posted is the first to use our new official album art and slightly modified tagging that should make things more convenient in iTunes, etc.

First, the visual:

http://ocremix.org/etc/album_art_final.jpg

Now, the (hopefully) less sexy tagging changes:

Album is now "http://ocremix.org" (no "www")
Title field includes single quotes around mix title (e.g. Sonic the Hedgehog 'Love Hurts' OC ReMix instead of Sonic the Hedgehog Love Hurts OC ReMix)
Track # is now populated with the numeric value of the mix ID (OCR01234 = 1234)
Compilation flag is set
Added Publisher, Album Artist and Album Artist URL fields (OverClocked ReMix and http://ocremix.org, respectively)

We'd like feedback on these changes, but much of this has already been discussed in Larry's MP3 tagging improvements thread (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20433).

We also are planning to release 2 updated torrents featuring these tagging revisions applied to all past ReMixes:
OCR00001-OCR02000 & OCR02001-OCR02400

All past ReMixes will include the following updates:

DONE:

MP3 validation (e.g. MPEG frame consistency, length of stored VBR header)
Added missing VBR headers
Removed all non-standard ID3v2.3 tags and all non-ID3v2.3 tags (e.g. ID3v1, APE)
Standardized filenames and ID3v2.3 tags (e.g. proper game titles, correct capitalization/spacing of mix titles, single quotes around mix title)
Quality control & corrections of all existing fields (e.g. ReMixer name changes, missing/corrected composers)
Added Track # (ReMix ID #), Publisher (OverClocked ReMix), Album Artist (OverClocked ReMix) and Album Artist URL ("http://ocremix.org") fields
Added Compilation flag (for grouping of single mixes as one album)
Added game to Grouping/Content Group field for sorting by game title
Added ReMix titles (w/o game name prefix & 'OC ReMix' suffix) to Subtitle field
Standardized URL field (OCR Artist profile URL) and Encoded By field (artist real name & email address)
Added artist submission and website comments to Comments field (when available)
Embedded confirmed lyrics in Comments and Unsynced Lyrics fields

INCOMPLETE:

Removing extra silence from tracks
Higher bitrate encodings (but NO CHANGES OR REVISIONS)
New bitrate/encoding requirement at either 192kbps or VBR1 (ReMixers, post your higher quality encodings here (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28745) and/or send your WAVs, FLACs or HQ encodings to larryoji@ocremix.org)
Lyrics unavailable for some ReMixes (HELP US OUT HERE (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29498))
THINGS WE ARE NOT CHANGING:

ReMixer name(s) as Artist
"http://ocremix.org" as Album Title
"Game" as Genre
Official album art design

Matt E. Waldman

12-01-2010, 02:43 AM

Ooh, lookin' good! Does this apply to all releases or only current and future ones?

SoulinEther

12-01-2010, 03:30 AM

looks like i'll need to be getting torrenting again.

NegimaSonic

12-01-2010, 03:33 AM

I picked TODAY of all days to go through all my songs, OCR included, and adjust the tags in WMP... why...

But, I love the new design!

ZealPath

12-01-2010, 03:57 AM

Finally! Album art! And I have to say, very slick, worth the wait album art at that!

SubNormal J3

12-01-2010, 04:13 AM

egometry

12-01-2010, 04:13 AM

I just created an account after years of listening to ocremixes to say thank you.

Thank you for this update.

CasualVader

12-01-2010, 04:24 AM

Very nice album art and the tagging changes are nice. Though I like making the album art be the title screen or box art of the game the ReMix is from. I also change the album title to the game's name. But that's just me. That album art is really nice though........... *squirms from indecision*

Black Mage

12-01-2010, 04:43 AM

I love the new art and the quotes in the titles. I'm tempted to re-download everything, but fear I may undo years worth of rating and library building if I overwrite all my files.

I am however updating the album art and album names as we speak.

Liontamer

12-01-2010, 04:47 AM

This looks very polished. Good work. As far as the new tags, I think it might be helpful if the tags were exported to a spreadsheet so that the community could check for any errors before it is finalized since there have been so many changes. Just a thought.

There will not be any errors, because I am perfect! In any case, it seems like a headache, BUT I'll think about it.

Kaxon

12-01-2010, 05:15 AM

Great update. I just wish there were a way to get this change without having to redo all 2000+ of my ratings in itunes.

PhoenixWrightEF

12-01-2010, 05:16 AM

This is absolutely amazing! Thanks guys for this much-needed update and the art looks sweeet! No more blurry 250x250 placeholder (which was fine but getting a little outdated...).

Love the track # update especially, doing these manually was getting painstaking.

Now the tags will almost comport with my own variations, but they are minor so no complaints here (I change genre to "Game Remix" and add the release year to album title for my own sorting purposes).

halc

12-01-2010, 05:32 AM

beautiful album art. happy to see quotes around mix titles too. nice work :nicework:

KyleJCrb

12-01-2010, 05:39 AM

I really can't wait for this to be fully implemented. It'll be extremely nice to have everything standardized.

Nex

12-01-2010, 06:57 AM

Awesome stuff. I'm sure these changes will help a lot of people. Looks great too!

Souliarc

12-01-2010, 02:42 PM

Love it alllllll. Thank you.

I hope you all get compensated well <_<........ >_>

:mrgreen:

Liontamer

12-01-2010, 02:49 PM

Love it alllllll. Thank you.

I hope you all get compensated well <_<........ >_>

:mrgreen:

My pockets are bursting with (Monopoly) money!

Souliarc

12-01-2010, 03:10 PM

My pockets are bursting with (Monopoly) money!

D:

*gives purely platonic man love hug*

You know we all love you for it Larry!

Jedi QuestMaster

12-02-2010, 03:18 AM

Not a big deal, & I might be alone on this, but I find it awkward having the album title "OCReMix.org" as well as having that be the title on the album artwork.

Why not "OverClocked ReMix" ?

Surely you want more visitors to the site, but isn't there a snazzier way of doing this?

Please don't kill me. http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilies/scared0016.gif

Liontamer

12-02-2010, 05:42 PM

you want more visitors to the site

See, you answered your own question!

In any case, we've heard people suggest not to use ocremix.org as the album name, and we've never listened. It's worked out great for us! :-)

KyleJCrb

12-02-2010, 08:41 PM

If you want to change the tags for your personal collection, you could always take MP3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/), select all of your remixes, and change the album to whatever you like.

Jedi QuestMaster

12-02-2010, 08:50 PM

See, you answered your own question!

No, I didn't! :shock:

but isn't there a snazzier way of doing this?

Is it too much for people to Google OverClocked ReMix? If people like what they hear, they'll come to the source. It's not like people type in URLs anymore. Right? http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilies/scared0012.gif

Liontamer

12-02-2010, 09:27 PM

Is it too much for people to Google OverClocked ReMix?

YES!

It's too much. This is the interweb. If you don't quickly and directly give someone what they're looking for, then they'll move onto something else. Hence our URL in the album tag in every ReMix.

Jedi QuestMaster

12-03-2010, 01:33 AM

YES!
Wow, that's so huge, it MUST be right! 8O

Guess I can't convince you, oh well.

Liontamer

12-03-2010, 02:11 AM

Wow, that's so huge, it MUST be right! 8O

Guess I can't convince you, oh well.

You guessed right. :-D Of course, you could have saved yourself the trouble via the first post.

THINGS WE ARE NOT CHANGING:

Album Title will always be "http://ocremix.org"

Dunther

12-03-2010, 05:42 PM

First, the visual:
http://ocremix.org/etc/album_art_final.jpg

Nice to have finally an official artwork. I always used this (taken from Last.fm): http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4396/foldersr.jpg
Anyway I think I'll convert the new cover into a 200x200 image too, bigger covers (in mp3 files) are useless in my opinion.

Title field includes single quotes around mix title (e.g. Sonic the Hedgehog 'Love Hurts' OC ReMix instead of Sonic the Hedgehog Love Hurts OC ReMix)
This is way better, now I understand why last.fm fingerprinted some of my OCRs in this way...
Track # is now populated with the numeric value of the mix ID (OCR01234 = 1234)
That would be pretty strange, but it makes sense. I think that my WMP will now change all mp3 names with a track number of four letters at the beginning, but that's ok, at least they won't be in alphabetical order anymore :) .
Compilation flag is set
Nice :)

We also are planning to release 2 updated torrents featuring these tagging revisions applied to all past ReMixes:
OCR00001-OCR02000 & OCR02001-OCR02100
Good thing, too bad I will have to manually select good mixes and give ratings to all of them again, but there's no other way.

Rozovian

12-03-2010, 06:02 PM

Finally! Glad this is finally out, now I can replace... everything... *sigh*

...too bad I will have to manually select good mixes and give ratings to all of them again, but there's no other way.

Tho we all might discover something new this way. :D

As for the art... no orange? ima gonna break out mah photoshopz for my own v of teh art

Chernabogue

12-03-2010, 06:05 PM

Great news! I'll finally manage to complete my OCR collection this way, cool! :)

Liontamer

12-03-2010, 06:15 PM

Anyway I think I'll convert the new cover into a 200x200 image too, bigger covers (in mp3 files) are useless in my opinion.
Just noting, the artwork size wasn't uninformed. It's the smallest size necessary: http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?p=493843&postcount=10

That would be pretty strange, but it makes sense. I think that my WMP will now change all mp3 names with a track number of four letters at the beginning, but that's ok, at least they won't be in alphabetical order anymore :) .

I have no idea what you think is going on with the track # being included in the tags, but I think you're inferring the wrong things.

Good thing, too bad I will have to manually select good mixes and give ratings to all of them again, but there's no other way.
Or you could load both sets of files into your players, sort them by title or artist, and then line things up so you can copy your old rating into the new file. Or just relisten to everything (my biased recommendation).

As for the art... no orange?

Maybe djp will explain his rationale behind the art and why he now hates orange (obviously).

ima gonna break out mah photoshopz for my own v of teh art

Good luck there, rebel. :-D

SubNormal J3

12-03-2010, 07:52 PM

Maybe djp will explain his rationale behind the art and why he now hates orange (obviously).

I think the art looks great how it is, but I'm confused. The YouTube videos are orange... :neutral:

Liontamer

12-03-2010, 08:05 PM

Maybe djp will explain his rationale behind the art and why he now hates orange (obviously).

I think the art looks great how it is, but I'm confused. The YouTube videos are orange... :neutral:

Lesson: Don't try sarcasm on the web!

luhny

12-03-2010, 08:21 PM

very practical and comprehensible changes. me likes.

plus: beautiful new art.

also i will redownload the torrents with the applied changes. this looks like a HELL LOT of work, so i am gonna make use of this awesome provided service. thanks alot for tagging everything for us. other people might have said: "that's the new tagging, if you want old stuff tagged: do it yourself". so kudos to you.

cheers,
-luhny

Dunther

12-03-2010, 10:32 PM

I have no idea what you think is going on with the track # being included in the tags, but I think you're inferring the wrong things.

Oh don't worry, it's simple: my Windows Media Player renames tracks with the number track before the title like:
15 Airman (Original, Short Ver.).mp3
and so an OCR will be like...
2136 Contra Force 'Power Trip' OC ReMix.mp3

But that's ok uh, I was just talking about it, I'm happy you're making these changes :)

Liontamer

12-04-2010, 02:34 AM

Oh don't worry, it's simple: my Windows Media Player renames tracks with the number track before the title like:
15 Airman (Original, Short Ver.).mp3
and so an OCR will be like...
2136 Contra Force 'Power Trip' OC ReMix.mp3

But that's ok uh, I was just talking about it, I'm happy you're making these changes :)

Yeah, that's weird. Is that something having to do with your preferences that your WMP changes your filenames?

Dunther

12-04-2010, 03:20 PM

Yeah, that's weird. Is that something having to do with your preferences that your WMP changes your filenames?

Sure, I've chosen this because it's the way I prefer for the album folders :)

monkofevil

12-05-2010, 05:13 AM

Real excited for those updated torrents, is there an ETA so myself and others can avoid spamming other boards asking about it?

Liontamer

12-05-2010, 05:44 AM

Real excited for those updated torrents, is there an ETA so myself and others can avoid spamming other boards asking about it?

Relatively soon...ish. (aka no immediate ETA, but coming along)

PhoenixWrightEF

12-05-2010, 03:45 PM

Anyway I think I'll convert the new cover into a 200x200 image too, bigger covers (in mp3 files) are useless in my opinion.

:shock:

Believe me there is a HUGE difference between 200x200 and 600x600 on my iPhone 4's display (920x640). The smaller art just doesn't look as sharp/refined. Makes me really regret, years ago, saying "Oh I think 300x300 will be fine" when I first embarked on my album-art project for my music library. In most cases the file size difference is minor unless you're getting up to 1000x1000 and higher, and if you're into collecting music then I think you've already forgone the "I don't have enough hard drive space for that" argument. 8) Don't make the same mistake I did!

I'm thrilled to see 600x600 as the new default, looks awesome on my iPhone and even Foobar when I maximize my player window. Coincidentally Bandcamp defaults to 700x700 for embedded art, which is pretty close too.

other people might have said: "that's the new tagging, if you want old stuff tagged: do it yourself". so kudos to you.

I agree, I think it's great you guys are doing this. I don't understand why, to this day, artists put music on the web with incomplete/improper tagging (and I do mean the artists themselves, not * ahem * others who might put them up somewhere, usually with proper tagging). I mean there's an ocean of music and why make it harder for us to look you up later? Updating all the older OCR tracks and making them easily available says to me, as a listener, that somebody cares about the branding and consistency, which is huge.

Oh and Larry, I think the URL in the album title is a great idea as this makes it drop-dead simple for new visitors to know exactly where the mix came from with no ambiguity or pain. In the modern era of "everything now" it really IS asking a lot for someone to take that extra step of Googling your site. Although many/most of us care enough to take that extra step, that's probably because on some level we're all music enthusiasts. The average listener is much lazier/busy/ambivalent IMHO. (And although I change the album title for my own library, I still agree with the decision as it's just good marketing sense!)

Dunther

12-05-2010, 03:57 PM

:shock:

Believe me there is a HUGE difference between 200x200 and 600x600 on my iPhone 4's display. Just doesn't look as sharp/refined. Makes me really regret, years ago, saying "Oh I think 300x300 will be fine" when I first embarked on my album-art project for my music library. In most cases the file size difference is minor unless you're getting up to 1000x1000 and higher, and if you're into collecting music then I think you've already forgone the "I don't have enough hard drive space for that" argument. 8)

I'm thrilled to see 600x600 as the new default, looks awesome on my iPhone and even Foobar when I maximize my player window. Coincidentally Bandcamp defaults to 700x700 for embedded art, which is pretty close too.

Well I don't know...I like to have the fullsize album art in the folder but in mp3 files I prefer using a 200x200 one, wich is the one that Windows Media Player creates :P

12-05-2010, 05:44 PM

Liontamer

12-05-2010, 06:00 PM

I just have a small concern: The new torrents will have updated ID3v2 tags for mix numbers 2100 and below and, as of now, mix numbers 2136 and higher have the updated tagging. So, there's a gap of 35 mixes that don't have the updated tagging, and I was just wondering when those would be take care of.
Every hosted mix on the mirrors we have will be replaced with the updated tags. ...Durr? Yes. Durr. :-)

Also, just to confirm, I know, for example, that some of the old Ocarina of Time mixes list the game as "Zelda 64" where others give the full "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time", so are these and other similar discrepancies being clarified?

Nah, I decided to be a dick and not correct any information, i.e.:

All past ReMixes will include the following updates:

DONE:

Standardized filenames and ID3v2 tags (e.g. proper game names, correct capitalization and spacing of mix titles)

No worries.

Guy In Rubber Suit

12-06-2010, 02:32 AM

Relatively soon...ish. (aka no immediate ETA, but coming along)

Not soon enough!

This is great news, and I love the album artwork. I've been mulling over a long time of making my own but ended up just being incredibly lazy. Or I can say that my telekinetic prowess has finally grown to such a capacity that I influenced djpretzel and liontamer and all involved to create an album cover and retag all of the previous mixes. Now to improve upon my telekinesis and make them work faster!

Dafydd

12-08-2010, 02:10 PM

Someone might have said already, but it would have been sweet to go with "OCReMix" in the genre field. I know "Game" is final, I'm just speaking my mind.

DarkeSword

12-08-2010, 02:19 PM

Someone might have said already, but it would have been sweet to go with "OCReMix" in the genre field. I know "Game" is final, I'm just speaking my mind.
That's even less of a genre than 'game' is. :P

KyleJCrb

12-08-2010, 02:35 PM

OCR defies genres!

Dafydd

12-08-2010, 03:28 PM

OCR defines genres!
Fixed. 10char

Liontamer

12-09-2010, 01:50 PM

Someone might have said already, but it would have been sweet to go with "OCReMix" in the genre field. I know "Game" is final, I'm just speaking my mind.

Can't say that makes sense, but have at it, hoss. :-)

Dafydd

12-09-2010, 06:45 PM

Can't say that makes sense, but have at it, hoss. :-)
See fixed quote in post above yours.

Liontamer

12-09-2010, 07:26 PM

See fixed quote in post above yours.

I saw. Just co-signing on the idea being bleh. :lol:

void.pointer

12-10-2010, 07:02 PM

I'm very excited about these changes and I can't wait for the torrents.

I wholeheartedly believe the artist field should obviously be the artist. They deserve all the credit for their own work. However, I still complain about this only because when you're talking about 2000+ OCRemixes in my music library, it becomes awful hard to find an artist like "George Strait" amidst all of the OCRemix artists that I honestly don't know about nor ever will.

Looking forward to some torrent links soon!

Mini-Me

12-14-2010, 08:58 AM

Not that my opinion carries any weight, but I think the list of tagging decisions includes all the right calls. One of the best decisions IMO was to reinstate* the single quotes around the song title, e.g.:
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 'House of Frogs' OC ReMix

This is helpful for aesthetics, clarity (especially for lesser known games with obscure titles and few ReMixes), and for separating the three components of the title via script. I used to add the quotes manually so I could run my files through a script and easily find/replace inconsistent game titles. That said, it looks like I won't even have to do that anymore, for great justice!

Until now, I was actually a bit nervous about this retagging project. I was excited about more consistent official tagging, but I was nervous that I'd have to manually separate game titles and song titles all over again. Thankfully, it looks like that won't be the case. Plus, since I won't need to change anything myself anymore, I can help seed the torrent(s) too. :)

*I say "reinstate," but was this ever actually the official convention until now, or did it come from the way titles are displayed on the site, or what? I just remember that older ReMixes included it, but ones from recent years made the title look like a single monolithic phrase. Musicbrainz was convinced that including single-quote separators was the right way to do things even before this new move [back?] to it, and I always figured it had to have been an official convention from the past given its relative eccentricity. After all, if it came from P2P users spontaneously adding separation before sharing, they probably would have used hyphens instead, with spaces at both sides.

Poke'G

12-22-2010, 06:56 AM

This information looks awesome, so a big thank you to the higher ups at OC Remix.

My only criticism is, unfortunately, about the album tag.

Can't the album title be "http://ocremix.org - 'Name of Game'"? From what I've read by Liontamer, it seems you guys made the decision for solely "http://ocremix.org" based on ease of site recognition. Is that the only concern involved?

While I can agree with simple marketing, having the game's name in there as well would make organization much, much easier. Not everyone has an iPod and organizing/sorting music on some MP3 players without album info is a pain, and if a simple web address was your only concern, would it hurt to have both in there, clearly marked?

Still, this standardization is an amazing effort you guys are pulling off, so thanks again. I can't wait for these torrents.

Kuolema

01-04-2011, 11:55 PM

Hey, is there any update on the torrents yet?

Mike OShay

01-05-2011, 11:25 AM

I'm also curious when the torrents are going to be complete and available. Several years ago, when it was just OCR1-1250, I listened through everything and told myself I'd do it again once the torrent(s) for 1-2000 were released. OCR2000 came out a while ago, and now my music library is horribly out-of-date.

Plus, I'm always looking for something legal that's somewhat high-traffic and somewhat high-size to help out my seeding ratio.

Nutritious

01-05-2011, 05:16 PM

Poke'G

01-31-2011, 08:16 AM

Yes, I'd prefer dozens (or likely hundreds) of albums with the ability to select by game as opposed to one album with 2000+ songs to sift through. If someone would not want a ton of albums on their player, they could just pick and choose what games to transfer over.

It's just my two cents on their proposal. These new torrents are a lot of work for them regardless, so I'm still grateful that standardization is happening at all.

Chernabogue

02-10-2011, 12:29 PM

So, how is going the new tagging process? :)

KyleJCrb

02-10-2011, 12:48 PM

So, how is going the new tagging process? :)

Isn't the tagging pretty much done on Larry's end? I think it just rests on djp to set up updated torrents and reupload every song on the site (which is no small task, mind you.)

Liontamer

02-10-2011, 01:21 PM

Isn't the tagging pretty much done on Larry's end? I think it just rests on djp to set up updated torrents and reupload every song on the site (which is no small task, mind you.)

There's one more change I'd like to do with artist URLs that's taking me some time, plus Dave and I need to work out the logistics of the change.

Yes, I'd prefer dozens (or likely hundreds) of albums with the ability to select by game as opposed to one album with 2000+ songs to sift through. If someone would not want a ton of albums on their player, they could just pick and choose what games to transfer over.

It's just my two cents on their proposal. These new torrents are a lot of work for them regardless, so I'm still grateful that standardization is happening at all.

Once the files are out, you can get MP3tag and redo stuff to your heart's content.

Kizyr

02-14-2011, 05:53 PM

There's one more change I'd like to do with artist URLs that's taking me some time, plus Dave and I need to work out the logistics of the change.
Apologies if you've gotten this question way too much, Larry, but is there an ETA on the new torrents becoming available? Are we talking a few weeks, or still another couple of months?

Once the files are out, you can get MP3tag and redo stuff to your heart's content.
One issue is that, with the quotes, I'm not sure how to distinguish between the name of the game and the name of the track, unless there's another few fields and an updated version of MP3Tag that I'm unaware of.

Anyone tagging experts know an easy way to do this? KF

Liontamer

02-14-2011, 06:47 PM

Apologies if you've gotten this question way too much, Larry, but is there an ETA on the new torrents becoming available? Are we talking a few weeks, or still another couple of months?

Months, but working on it. I'm in the D's as far as my last artist URL updates. The issue of artist link 404s came up, and linking to the OCR artist page was the best way to avoid 404s, as well as provide a link that could then fans to see all the social pages an artist has.

One issue is that, with the quotes, I'm not sure how to distinguish between the name of the game and the name of the track, unless there's another few fields and an updated version of MP3Tag that I'm unaware of.

Anyone tagging experts know an easy way to do this? KF

The point of the quotes is to more clearly separate the game title from the remix name. Not sure how it does anything BUT make it clearer. :lol: The Title field will always use the style of Game Name 'ReMix Title' OC ReMix. Everything will also use the Subtitle field to house just the plain title of the ReMix w/o the game name or OC ReMix. That field can be made visible through MP3tag, though, in iTunes, Subtitle is mapped to the video Description field.

Kizyr

02-16-2011, 07:03 PM

The point of the quotes is to more clearly separate the game title from the remix name. Not sure how it does anything BUT make it clearer. :lol: The Title field will always use the style of Game Name 'ReMix Title' OC ReMix. Everything will also use the Subtitle field to house just the plain title of the ReMix w/o the game name or OC ReMix. That field can be made visible through MP3tag, though, in iTunes, Subtitle is mapped to the video Description field.
I think I may have worded that poorly, my mistake. The quotes make the song title vs. game title clear, definitely, but I was thinking of how to make this clear in MP3Tag (or some other tag program) if, say, I wanted to organize it into subfolders based on games or something. It was really more of a MP3Tag/utility question, not one about the tags themselves.

The Subtitle field basically solves all of that. I could use the quotation marks in the Title field as delimiters as well, but an errant apostrophe in the title would trip that up (e.g., "Super Mario World 'Super Mario's Sleigh Ride' OC ReMix could end up with 'Super Mario' as the remix title). KF

Liontamer

02-16-2011, 09:43 PM

I think I may have worded that poorly, my mistake. The quotes make the song title vs. game title clear, definitely, but I was thinking of how to make this clear in MP3Tag (or some other tag program) if, say, I wanted to organize it into subfolders based on games or something. It was really more of a MP3Tag/utility question, not one about the tags themselves.

The Subtitle field basically solves all of that. I could use the quotation marks in the Title field as delimiters as well, but an errant apostrophe in the title would trip that up (e.g., "Super Mario World 'Super Mario's Sleigh Ride' OC ReMix could end up with 'Super Mario' as the remix title). KF
Nah, np. Both the Content Group and Original Album fields will have the full game names there, so even if you change the title tags, you'll still have the ability to sort by game in iTunes.

PadawanSpider

02-19-2011, 05:01 PM

Man... I've been downloading the old torrents and sorting things and then I googled for OC remix album art and found this thread. *facepalm* BUT! Thank you thank you thank you!

I'm gonna stop sorting now. :D Looking forward to the finished product.

Late Mistakes

03-20-2011, 09:01 PM

Since there will be a massive re-tagging or has been.

The albums that got released previously, will they also get new tags/torrents? Upgraded bitrates? Wavs converted to FLAC, FLAC compressed to level 8? Albums with damaged or wrong tracks get the proper ones inserted (Missingno, the ANSWER)? Will game names on the site be changed previous to the whole release? Mega man and a few others show Roman Numerals on the boxes yet are called by 1, 2, etc.

Will the sites for each track be updated to give proper timing? And will it be attributed to the remixers current or previous aliases (if they have changed?

It may also be helpful to try and add/edit all the artists/music to musicbrainz

P.S. Sorry, I ramble a lot.

Dafydd

03-21-2011, 01:11 AM

Regarding the Mega Man series, the title screens have Roman numerals on both consoles, but afaik the box art uses Roman numerals only for the Game Boy games, while the NES games have "normal" numbers. Wikipedia, mmhp.net, mobygames etc. all acknowledge that same convention.

Late Mistakes

03-22-2011, 11:48 PM

Dafydd: I see what you mean. The Japanese Rockman versions also sometimes use the 1-10 numbering system and not roman numerals. My critique about the numbering scheme used on the site is wrong, since even the games vary themselves.

Dafydd

03-23-2011, 12:25 AM

Unlike the NES games, the Game Boy games are known as "Rockman World" in Japan, which means either numeral works fine. The first, numberless game in Game Boy series in the rest of the world has the subtitle "Dr. Wily's Revenge" to distinguish it from the first, NES Mega Man game. For the sequels on both consoles though, the kind of numeral is the only way to tell which game (and console) you're talking about. That's why they have to be used consistently. Like I said, the box art is very consistent about this, but the games have only Roman numerals in the title screens - both on the NES and on the Game Boy.

Axiem

10-27-2011, 02:02 AM

It's been 5 months...any word on the progress here? Or did I miss an important thread elsewhere?

Liontamer

11-02-2011, 02:49 PM

It's been 5 months...any word on the progress here? Or did I miss an important thread elsewhere?

I've mentioned in a few other threads, but the plan is to roll the updated stuff out before the end of the year, or after MAGFest in January, which'll be after the holiday season.

I'm waiting for some WAVs from djpretzel to update his mixes, and we should be good with the files themselves. Then comes dealing with how to update everything on the database side.

Axiem

11-03-2011, 01:55 AM

Awesome. I'm looking forward to the new torrents! :)

Legion303

01-02-2012, 12:45 PM

Liontamer

01-02-2012, 01:13 PM

MP3s below 2136 are missing the Track tag (or where present, it's "0") in the mirrors. Something like mp3tag can fix this problem with a simple html export/import on each mirror, instead of having to reup old songs.
All the updates in the OP have already been applied to my collection of mixes. Once we're finished and good to go with doing these replacements, you'll see that everything has been overhauled and fixed. :-)

mrnerdhair

01-17-2012, 04:19 PM

Been waiting expectantly for release of this project. Now that MAGFest is over, is there a chance of a near-term release?

Please? Pretty please?

KyleJCrb

01-17-2012, 05:12 PM

Larry is tagging the HELL out of these remixes!

void.pointer

02-01-2012, 10:04 PM

How are things looking here? Any updates?

Liontamer

02-02-2012, 03:21 AM

How are things looking here? Any updates?

Thanks for checking in. This has clearly been a long-tail type of project. :-)

We've recently updated the standards by 1) removing the filesize limit, and 2) asking for all encodings from now on to either be 192kbps or VBR1 quality.

Because of this change in the standards, we're going to make a final push for upgraded encodings from the ReMixers for whatever older material we can get, then it's working out the logistics with djp on how to properly replace every file in the database, which is tougher than it looks.

Just FYI, periodically I'm privately backing up my work in 2 places (external drive and online), so if my comp fried tomorrow, we wouldn't lose all of this progress. Sorry for the wait, though I promise it'll be worth it for this set of music. :-)