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djpretzel
11-03-2005, 04:23 AM
What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

Navi
11-03-2005, 04:30 AM
I have been privy to many of RTF's tracks in recent times and I have to say, he continues to amaze me. He has a talent for sequencing and some very creative ideas in his head. This track finally gets some OCR lovin' and I know for a fact that it won't be the last time that we see Red Tailed Fox posted on here. Great work!

Hobocop
11-03-2005, 04:58 AM
I've been listening to this song quite a bit over the last couple months, and it still hasn't gotten boring. The new part at 3:47 is a welcome change up, not that this song lacks variety by any means. The beginning is very atmospheric - definitely well done, and does a good job of setting up the mood for the rest of the song. Very accomplished mix, even beats out Wood's Motel in my opinion (though they are close). Good luck in the future RTF, and thanks for ending my long wait for new high-energy Hyrdocity. :D

Psychotic Ninja
11-03-2005, 05:00 AM
BADASS

metaphist
11-03-2005, 05:08 AM
I've had an earlier version of this on my ipod for some time now, I was exited to see it posted on OCR with some changes made. Though I'm a bit particular to the old version since I listened to it alot, this definately has some good additions. Adding the main melody back in around 2:40 worked well, and the little solo a minute later is cool (though I think the transition out of it is a little weird).

I liked it before, and I still like it now. Good stuff, RTF.

Ichitootah
11-03-2005, 05:13 AM
This is definitely a case of awesome arrangement winning over professional sheen. I'm glad cool mixes can still make on virtues other than production values.

debeerguy007
11-03-2005, 05:13 AM
Well, whatdoya know? A Red Tailed Fox remix on OCR. LOL.

I remember when this awesome track was still a WIP on Vgmix. I kept track of its progress, meaning I've kept pretty much each WIP version he posted on vgmix. I gotta say, this remix has certainly gone through some changes since, but good changes mostly. Although I'm quite partial to the finished VGmix version, this one is still quite enjoyable and is definitely going on my hard drive. While I noticed a number of differences in this version that I personally probably wouldn't have made, I have always thought very highly of this remix even in its early stages, And I will continue to do so.

All I've got to say is this.


Red Tailed Fox...welcome to the family.

PassivePretentiousness
11-03-2005, 06:16 AM
I'm not too crazy about this one. Everything sounds pretty low fi and the sounfield feels pretty empty. Many of the samples are downright awful- for example the strings- and in desperate need of humanization. A lot simply doesn't sit very well in the mix. The various little synthy ornamentations sound haphazadly pasted around at :45-1:30... and more or less throughout the song. I like the use of a breakdown to emphasize melody. The groove is pretty reasonable, and the drums do change, but really, that's all there is positive to the song.
I actually don't mind the compositional choices 3:50-4:10. It was a nice breakup from the rest of the song and was probably the best segment in the arrangement.
I feel this is well below the bar. The production doesn't come close to even say, BitMap's BottledMetro, and the arrangement doesn't come close to making up for it.
Sorry.

TheRedBob
11-03-2005, 11:50 AM
I don't think instrumentation is an issue here at all. No, it doesn't sound "real" by any means, but I think that what's there goes quite well together in the style.

It has a groove, and the song has been on repeat since I got it. The samples used don't grate on my nerves by any means, and that leaves me quite open to enjoy the piece. Congrats to Red Tailed Fox, I'm loving this.

BrainCells
11-03-2005, 12:28 PM
Being realistic or not is just a task of choice in my opinion. Still I think this arrangement is great and the sounds used fit very well. Awesome addition to the site library.

Do caralho cara, parabéns!!!

Mr. Bottle Rocket
11-03-2005, 12:59 PM
god yes, i've been waiting for this to be released ever since i saw it in the wip forum like 7 months ago...it's gotten N times better since then, kudos. :D


Não digas asneiras puuuuuto :P

Mr. Fox
11-03-2005, 01:44 PM
So good to get back from a awfull school day I find all this comments. Thank you guys! Me loves you!!!! =D

Red Shadow
11-03-2005, 02:19 PM
Oh, I like this.

Can't think of anything specific to say, but it's good.

Tepid
11-03-2005, 04:29 PM
I loved this song the moment I first heard it on vgmix and still do to this day. This is a fine day when Sonic and breakbeat unite in harmony. Also, loving the usage of synths in the song, which bring back those memories.

I've been listening to Caio's stuff for a while now, and this was a breakthrough in his sequencing, and his stuff just keeps improving. However, I still favour this one, he did a great job adding some jazzy influences into the composition, and the breakbeat drums were always a good idea.

Nice work Caio!

Mr. Fox
11-03-2005, 04:40 PM
I loved this song the moment I first heard it on vgmix and still do to this day. This is a fine day when Sonic and breakbeat unite in harmony. Also, loving the usage of synths in the song, which bring back those memories.

I've been listening to Caio's stuff for a while now, and this was a breakthrough in his sequencing, and his stuff just keeps improving. However, I still favour this one, he did a great job adding some jazzy influences into the composition, and the breakbeat drums were always a good idea.

Nice work Caio!

Send me Roses! :wink:

* I hope you get the hidden message!

Txai
11-03-2005, 04:54 PM
Hahahah!! My great friend!!

Isso tá muito bom, cara! Eu me lembro da versão anterior. E isto melhorou bastante! Gosto dos sentimentos novos que você colocou no tema da Hydrocity Zone. A percussão tá ótima; você colocou efeitos agradáveis de filtro e de panning. Eu também gosto da percussão tropical. Os instrumentos todos, ao menos para mim, são de grande qualidade. A flauta que você pôs tem tudo a ver com a música. Os synths são também muito bons; trazem uma sensação de música eletrônica agitada, assim como o contexto inteiro do remix. Tem muitos elementos aqui, inclusive alguns conceitos de jazz que eu realmente apreciei.

Por todos os diabos!! Isso é música briliante, cara!!

Triad Orion
11-03-2005, 05:05 PM
I could not wait for someone to finally do a remix that did Hyrdocity Zone Act 2 justice here on OC Remix. Finally... someone who takes it and does it right. You sir? You are my hero.

Wonderfully catchy, fresh, and I love the fact that it changes and adapts over time. My two gripes are that it takes a bit too long to get to the main theme,(though once it gets there, it's spectacular), and the ending is a tad abrupt. All in all, though... very respectable work, and from the sounds of it, all the work you put into this paid off.

Tepid
11-03-2005, 06:06 PM
Send me Roses! :wink:
Heck yeah sucka, you know I will! :lol:

Panz3rWolfe
11-03-2005, 09:00 PM
I was a big fan of the WIPs back on Vgmix, and the original which I thought came out there (I could be wrong). But regardless its easy to see the differences in quality and technicality between the two. This newer version is superior in so many ways. Nice work.

Hetcenus
11-04-2005, 02:08 AM
OK, buddy, it's almost 1:00 am now, and I'm here just to listen to this. If I get disappointed I'm afraid I'll have to take three buses just to go to your place and kill you reallllly slowly...

Jokes apart, I'd like to analyze this from the technical aspect and stuff like that, but I lack the knowledge for it. So let just the Sonic-fan-who-likes-mixes version of myself talk:

Damn crazy man!!!! Lots things mixed up together and one of the coolest songs ever!!! Just gotta listen again!!! Does anything fail in there??? I GUESS NOT!
It just could be here... (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=57395)

Jokes again, you're safe, man. And I just imagined which kind of comment would Mr. Pretzel write if this fox had a white tail...

E AGORA EH PRESSIONAH O DJP PRA FAZE UM FORUM EM PORTUGUES PRA NOIS!!!! 8)

(Useless but cheerful post...)

Lord_Amon
11-04-2005, 02:54 AM
Hetcenus:
And I just imagined which kind of comment would Mr. Pretzel write if this fox had a white tail...
i thought it was red And white ? :p



good song Dj Pretzel, i've listened to it a couple of times in the last 30 mins, really is a good track.

just a suggestion from a newbie: maybe work back down the beat at 3:30 - 3:55, it seems to drop off very quick going from an up-beat techno to a slower paced chill-mix.

other than that definantly a very well made song ! :D

KirbySSB
11-04-2005, 05:51 AM
This is absolutely awesome. Congratulations. :)

Nineko
11-05-2005, 12:53 AM
one of the best tracks I've ever heard. now I'm too lazy to write a review, but I liked it :wink:

PlastikBag
11-05-2005, 04:23 AM
I enjoyed this. The samples and humanizing really aren't too great, but the arrangement and the fresh drum track more than make up for that shortcoming. It does a lot in its almost 6 minutes of length, and its just fun to listen to. Not to mention it's from my favorite theme in the game.

MORE HYDROCITY MIXES PLZTHX.

(And good work)

Jabadoterry
11-06-2005, 09:48 AM
Loved this remix, it is far better than that bottled metro remix as seen in the past, definaly a tune added to the top of my fave list for sega remixes as far as this song goes, until someone makes something better... well I somehow doubt they can make a better remix for this song in general hehe, Great work, looking forward to more awesome remixes such as this! 10 out of 10

Hetcenus
11-06-2005, 10:27 AM
i thought it was red And white ? :p
:D

If you meant Miles Prower, for me it's orange and white.
And I meant the musician fox...

Fridge
11-06-2005, 10:02 PM
Yeah, I don't really have anything specific to add, but this is definitely one of my favorite tracks to come out of here in a while, ESPECIALLY by someone who isn't already one of the more "established" names here. Great stuff.

StormEagle83
11-06-2005, 10:03 PM
I like it alot.[/img]

KyleJCrb
11-07-2005, 02:10 AM
I'm glad to see this one up here, as I enjoyed it a lot on VGMix, and thought it would be a great addition to the OCR repertoire. Nice job, RTF! The improvements over the VGMix release really add a lot and make this worth listening to. :)

jorgandar
11-07-2005, 09:20 PM
nice. love the jazzy tunes. Something seemed a little bit off on the pan positions in the drum lines. the rythms were excellent. i wont nit-pick over instrument quality. some of it was good others ok. ic an tell you mixed a lot of different elements into this.

Zutnunzor
11-07-2005, 11:36 PM
Gee, This was one of my favorites when it was posted in the S&KIII Project forums. Glad to see it make it to the front of OCR, and such a wonderful addition it is. Great job RTF, Can't wait to see what else you cook up.

Dark Mirage
11-09-2005, 07:13 AM
Incredible remix. I can't getn enough of the middle parts where the the song really picks up. Awesome work man

RimFrost the Tourianist
11-09-2005, 07:09 PM
Exceptionally well-made remix of Hydrocity theme :D

Congrats RTF.

badhabit
11-09-2005, 09:00 PM
Amazing mix, every section of it. I love how the quiet theme at 2:00, picks up until 3:00, then returns to the quiet theme at 3:45.

Great work.

Alpha001
11-12-2005, 05:06 AM
Been waiting for a remix of Hydrocity for a while, and what I heard doesn't disappoint. It's varied and section 2:00 to 3:45 is just awesome. Great job, I'm definitely looking forward to your next work. :D

Martin Penwald
11-13-2005, 12:29 PM
I admit I've been a Nintendo-Fanboy back in the days, so I don't really know the original. But I still enjoyed this mix, especially the slower (1:57) and melodic parts (4:04) as well as when it picks up some speed (3:01).
Awfulness at its best.

TX-419
11-21-2005, 08:51 PM
Wow. This is absolutely freaking awesome. I loved the original song (Especially act 2) and this does a VERY good job at staying true to the original song and still keeping varied. It never really sticks with one style, but somehow manages to keep the original beat almost intact. Definitely going on the favorites list.

Zekian
11-30-2005, 10:22 PM
This may be my favorite Sonic remix on the site. It's definitely in the top 3 at least. When the theme finally kicks in at 1:28, I get shivers. This has variety, stays close enough to the original without being a carbon copy, and it just sounds incredible. Absolutely amazing.

Cutter
12-08-2005, 07:54 PM
Sorry to sound like I have nothing new to say, but I like this remix very much.

StormEagle83
12-11-2005, 02:53 AM
I like it alot.

SynthesizedStampede
12-18-2005, 07:00 AM
I absolutely love this remix. I've grown up with Sonic, and everytime I pop in Sonic Jam to in my Saturn, and play Sonic 3 locked on to Sonic & Knuckles, I ALWAYS love getting to Hydrocity Zone and listening to the music. ALWAYS.

With this remix, I no longer have to play the game to hear the music. It is similar to the original, but has such a twist to make it into a song I can love more. What I ABSOLUTELY love though (even though I know it's not intentional because it's kinda my mind's judgement)is how at around 2:50-3:00, I ALWAYS think that it's the end of the song. But then I look at my CD Player, and omg I have about half of the song left. Hell yes.

But I'm not sure how I would judge this on terms of those who haven't played the game. In terms of music, I'm not skilled in trying to see things from the other side. However, for fans of the game, and the Hydrocity Song, this remix is STRONGLY recommended. Very good work, does the original justice.

I_am_Torgo
12-28-2005, 03:12 AM
I don't know what I can add, but this mix is great for the most part. Some of the more abstract sequences in between the more conservitive coverage bore me a little, but I've always enjoyed a straighter cover to a song then a really abstract mix. The Hydrocity Zone is indeed one of my favorite game tunes of all time, and this is some excellent and much-needed coverage of it.

A big thumbs up. 8/10

BlueMage
04-18-2006, 11:41 AM
I'll be perfectly honest - this did not appeal on first listen. Not that the production was poor, or the arangement horrible .... it just didn't click for me initially.

Well, I listened to it a few more times, and it grew on me considerably. The gunshots are cheesy-awesome. There's a flow to this that builds and fades at least twice throughout the track.

And it's decently suited to walking at a relaxed pace.

Comfortable 6 (>75%).

Vertigo88
04-27-2006, 04:57 PM
The best music in Sonic 3, and you improved upon it?!?! <head explodes>

Mistform_Mk2
04-11-2007, 12:32 AM
Hi. I'm new, and I was wondering what program was used to make this... I use Acid, but am unsatisfied with it.

Mr. Fox
04-11-2007, 01:34 AM
Reason 2.5 back then. Right now, 3.0. But you can easily do better with Acid, IMO.

Mistform_Mk2
04-12-2007, 01:31 AM
thanks :) ill give Reason a shot, considering i have no clue of how to use Acid in any useful way :P. i don't know how to make original sounds and thus use loops, and nothign will come of that that sounds nearly as good as this.

Ragnor
04-14-2007, 05:09 AM
Im pretty sure this was the first OCR track I heard :p

Excluding the Hedgehog Heaven remix album, since I downloaded that from elsewhere

Yeah, this track I thought was pretty okay at first, and actually couldnt remember what it was from (I had only briefly played Sonic at that point, and couldnt get anywhere in Hydrocity Zone) but it eventually became a favourite on my commonly played tracks. You could say this track is what made my initial dislike of the Hydrocity theme into lov xD

Great track, clearly

Holy Land
06-10-2008, 09:32 PM
I can't believe I had overlooked this until now. Sonic 3 & Knuckles is gotta be my favourite soundtrack (I probably know all those songs by heart) and this mix took me waaaay back. :-D

Can't wait to hear more stuff from you in the future.

Marmiduke
12-24-2008, 02:52 AM
For me, early Sonic (read: not the drastically modified soft-rock moods of the 3D games) were always about catchy 90s electropop. So the lesser quality samples in this mix are totally redeemed by the fact that they suit the source material. Whereas if you did the same thing to something like more traditionally inspired music like Super Mario Bros., it would seem more out of place.
However, I'm not a sample freak. If it is arranged well, then sample quality shouldn't come into it. And the mix is arranged more than well enough. Never boring, very Sonic, very Hydrocity. The break in the last third might have seemed completely tacked on if it wasn't so charming. Nice work all round. I'm a fan.

OA
05-03-2010, 05:45 PM
Production is a little weak, specifically the drums, but the arrangement is pretty fun and action-packed, with some great synth work and some nice and varied beats.

Really nice, sunny work. You can't listen to this and be grumpy, it's just not possible. :-)

Crulex
06-03-2011, 09:02 PM
Absolutely terrific ReMix. The upbeat sound, the energy, it was all cool with me. For some reason I got a weird MMX vibe from it in some parts. I can't really explain that one besides possibly the groove of the beat may have reminded me of it, but it's a good thing, trust me. I'm all for ReMixes that can blend in different genres to make something new and intriguing and this is one of them.