View Full Version : OCRA-0006 - Chrono Trigger: Chrono Symphonic
Claado Shou
01-04-2006, 12:12 AM
OFFICIAL WEBSITE: http://chrono.ocremix.org
OFFICIAL TORRENT: http://bt.ocremix.org/files/Chrono_Symphonic.torrent
Welcome to the official feedback thread of the OverClocked Remix Site Project, Chrono Symphonic. You may have heard of the project before; then again, you may have stumbled here by some other road. So let me give you a little synopsis, and tell you what this project is all about.
Chrono Symphonic is a project a long time in the making. Starting from the autumn days of October 2004, and ending in the wintry days of January 2006, it’s been a labor of love for everybody that has been a part of it. Initially designed to be the soundtrack for the long-desired Chrono Trigger movie (no, the movie doesn’t exist and probably never will), it encompasses 18 different artists' takes on the way such a film should sound in an orchestral setting, and many more on how it should look and feel. Never has such an abundance of talent been thrown into such a powerful calling, and never has the game Chrono Trigger, which many of us grew up playing, known so much love.
Basically, this is a project aimed at re-imagining Chrono Trigger the way it was imagined in its creators’ heads…a tale of love, and triumph, and struggling for the good of others while leaving your own inhibitions and fears behind. It’s the tale you’ve waited forever to hear…and now, you’re able to hear it.
Welcome to Chrono Symphonic, and enjoy your stay.
P.S. A special thanks goes to: StarZander for creating the Chrono Symphonic website; Compyfox for mastering the finished music; ZeaLitY and the Chrono Compendium for advertising and showing great faith in the project; Eon_Blue for his wonderful album art; pixietricks for being more than just a performer in almost all respects of the project; DarkeSword for his more-than-a-musician contributions to the project; Evilhead for translating the English lyrics into Japanese; VGDJ and Liontamer for super-pimping the project; DJP and the entire OCReMix community for listening and making this a worthwhile endeavor; and Yasunori Mitsuda, Nobuo Uematsu, Noriko Matsueda, and Squaresoft for producing a game and a soundtrack that have wrought many great things in the lives of its audience. Thanks.
~.C.S.~
StarZander
01-04-2006, 12:19 AM
I must say I really like the website. ;)
Arek the Absolute
01-04-2006, 12:42 AM
I think I said this too many times in your other thread....but
Good shit, good shit.
Ab56 v2 aka Ash
01-04-2006, 12:43 AM
This is awesome. I'm lovin' it in a very non-McDonalds kind of way.
I can't seem to get the torrent to work though. Some kind of tracker error.
OverCoat
01-04-2006, 12:44 AM
I'm wondering why the trailer and script and outline are not also included in the trailer?
Anyway I've heard some of the songs [like 3 maybe] before, though they probably sound different by now, however I'm sure the rest will be good also.
I haven't been listening to orchestral music at all for a long time, I don't like it as much as I like the more electronic, experimental styles, so I wonder how my mind will accept this one.
Dark Phazon
01-04-2006, 12:51 AM
I'd just like to point out that due to blizihizake's remixer-name change at OCR, the link on his remixer profile at the Chrono Symphonic site does not work. (sorry if I posted that in the wrong thread, but since this really isn't about the Special Edition, I thought this would be the correct place to post this)
And from what I've listened to so far, this is just awesome.
Compyfox
01-04-2006, 12:59 AM
I need to add this, but the "audition tracks" weren't planned for this release. That's why they aren't in the torrent. Those tracks aren't mastered by myself, so please keep that in mind.
Everything else is planned for the "Special Edition". The page will be fixed tomorrow, too. The Torrent file can be accessed via the mainpage of OCR. If you get tracker errors, please try to fix the ports and set them up properly.
Thanks a lot.
Being
01-04-2006, 01:04 AM
The .flac files of the torrent really are a pisser. As such, I have to download each song manually. If someone could zip (or rar) up all of the mp3s of the project to be hosted, that would probably be a lot better.
DarkeSword
01-04-2006, 01:07 AM
The .flac files of the torrent really are a pisser. As such, I have to download each song manually. If someone could zip (or rar) up all of the mp3s of the project to be hosted, that would probably be a lot better.
Just set your BT client to NOT download the flac files if you don't want them. Any BitTorrent client worth the space it occupies on your harddrive is able to deal with multifile torrents and file selectability.
Bongo Bill
01-04-2006, 01:16 AM
I can ost the RAR file anyway, if Claadou approves.
Unfortunately, when I tried to download with the torrent, it replaced all of my mp3 versions with blank files before I could tell my Bittorrent client to ignore the mp3 version. So it looks like I'm using the torrent.
Edit: yes, I know I could just unpack the mirror pack again, but I feel that by seeding the mp3 files on the torrent as well, I'll be doing more for the community.
Nineko
01-04-2006, 01:16 AM
not sure if this is the best thread or if I should write in the other one. oh well, this post can be deleted once fixed.
in this page: http://vizzed.com/chrono/history.htm, the link to the history thread includes a Session Id.http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45588&sid=a4ea54c95f4a02f5d1b4555f57c91f11you may want to remove it since it's unnecessary and can fuck up some non-firefox browsers.
The Damned
01-04-2006, 01:17 AM
I haven't even heard any of the music yet, and I already feel like every project after this is going to suck in comparison...
Way to raise the bar, guys. Thanks a lot. :roll:
HustlerOne
01-04-2006, 01:20 AM
Awesome work guys (don't tell anyone that I realized that the torrent was on the server 24 hours prior to release)... I've listened through about 4 times and am on my 5th playthrough. Thank you so much for an awesome collaboration that gives my memories of this spectacular RPG a cinematic quality. Cheers!
Zeality
01-04-2006, 01:21 AM
Kudos to the remixers; especially Darkesword and Sleepy Emp; I really dig your tracks.
My site is going to get HAMMERED.
Being
01-04-2006, 01:29 AM
Overall, the music in this project is quite nice. I ended up just downloading each song individually.
Good on ya!
DarkeSword
01-04-2006, 01:31 AM
Kudos to the remixers; especially Darkesword and Sleepy Emp; I really dig your tracks.
My site is going to get HAMMERED.
Thanks man; I'd be interested in hearing some more in depth comments later in this thread, if you don't mind.
Funky Munky
01-04-2006, 01:50 AM
Wow... amazing... I've only heard the first song and it sent chills down my spine... I never realized how much I loved the music in this game... I'm going to play it over and over again just so I can hear the music. Looking very much forward to hearing the rest of the soundtrack.
Aurora Firestorm
01-04-2006, 02:04 AM
I snagged the MP3's and I have the torrent downloading, just because.
This is the coolest thing since...I don't know what. Magnificent. Worth the delays and so much more. Worth the over-a-year that it took. It's really cinema quality, amazingly impressive. It's hard to believe that a group of unpaid (for this project, at least) mixers and crew did all this. That's why it's so awesome.
You guys deserve medals. And a vacation. A really long one, after dealing with all of us. Because you've earned that, at the very least. Geniuses, all of you.
<3 Compy, Claado, StarZander, DJP, Eon, and all the other insanely awesome people that made this happen.
Now I go to listen to the rest of it. :)
Zeality
01-04-2006, 02:04 AM
Okay, I'll provide some feedback. Right now I'm rushing like a hellhound.
I'm waiting for my Slashdot submit to go through. I was warned by SquareAmp's webmaster that the current game editor is kind of a nazi, and likes to only post things himself. Nonetheless, I'm hoping this is important enough for this guy's standards. If he posts something else unrelated and makes no mention of the news, I'm just going to submit it somewhere else on the site.
What I submitted was, in case anyone has inside connections iwth Slashdot,
~
Overclocked ReMix's latest site project, Chrono Symphonic, has debuted. It features 25 orchestral rearrangements of Chrono Trigger songs. Though almost completely digital, the album was intended to sound like a movie score. The convolution-based reverb settings used to simulate a live environment were that of the 700-seat Promenadikeskus Concert Hall in Pori, Finland. Over a year in the making, this is OCR's sixth site project.
This release is for the "Regular Version," which features 25 .mp3 tracks over two discs. A few days from now, possibly towards the end of January, a special edition will be released containing extra tracks and bonus material; it will feature a third data disc and also lossless music.
Chrono Symphonic is available here (http://chrono.ocremix.org). Interviews with the entire staff and all remixers involved are also available at the Chrono Compendium (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Stories/21). To celebrate, rom hackers have also released version 2.0 of the Chrono Trigger Coliseum (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Trigger_Coliseum). Happy listening!
GrayLightning
01-04-2006, 02:17 AM
Finally! :wink:
Congrats to everyone involved in the project.
heh, my "Author's Comment" and bio were written by someone else, without anyone asking me. maybe it'd be better just to remove the link? or clarify that it isn't me writing? I know that you guys gave me plenty of warning in regards to writing one of those things, and it's totally my fault that I didn't (I never really had time, but I'll still try to get around to it), but I would have at least appreciated it if you would have run this ghost written version by me, since it contains a few things that aren't true.
also, my arrangement doesn't have any of the Battle With Magus (as far as I know?) - just Marle's theme, the main battle theme, and a small hint of the Lavos theme.
Compyfox
01-04-2006, 03:16 AM
And there goes another thing that's wrong with the page.
Liontamer
01-04-2006, 03:17 AM
heh, my "Author's Comment" and bio were written by someone else, without anyone asking me. maybe it'd be better just to remove the link? or clarify that it isn't me writing? I know that you guys gave me plenty of warning in regards to writing one of those things, and it's totally my fault that I didn't (I never really had time, but I'll still try to get around to it), but I would have at least appreciated it if you would have run this ghost written version by me, since it contains a few things that aren't true.
also, my arrangement doesn't have any of the Battle With Magus (as far as I know?) - just Marle's theme, the main battle theme, and a small hint of the Lavos theme.
Dunno any of the particulars, Mike, but why not take the opportunity now to PM a bio StarZander; I'm sure he'd replace the bootleg one with that.
arias
01-04-2006, 03:31 AM
heh, my "Author's Comment" and bio were written by someone else, without anyone asking me. maybe it'd be better just to remove the link? or clarify that it isn't me writing? I know that you guys gave me plenty of warning in regards to writing one of those things, and it's totally my fault that I didn't (I never really had time, but I'll still try to get around to it), but I would have at least appreciated it if you would have run this ghost written version by me, since it contains a few things that aren't true.
also, my arrangement doesn't have any of the Battle With Magus (as far as I know?) - just Marle's theme, the main battle theme, and a small hint of the Lavos theme.
Ha. Where's the project integrity? Disgraceful.
Loving some of the music; particularly Darkesword's and Sephfire's. Not sure about the poor dissonance in Cox's remix.. some of the other music, I have no particular liking for. In my opinion, the Far Away Times remix is quite poor -- to me, the insertion of Japanese is pretentious. I have no idea why that artistic decision was made. Pixietricks might have a magnificent voice, but it's not the voice for the song (or more specifically, this particular arrangement of it).
And Blake; if you're 16 you have plenty ahead of you. Your song shows glimpses of brilliance, but the consistency in arrangement and choice in instrumentation needs to be further refined.
Congratulations on 3 years of hard work.
extrakun
01-04-2006, 03:34 AM
I know nothing about music, so I just try to explain what I think in what terms I could muster.
Schala and the Queen
Somehow I prefer the pre-mastered verison, but in particular I think it's the singing. It's...too "clean". Kudos to CompyFox for making the singing less washed out. But from 2:15 to 2:22, it gives me the feeling as if pixeltrick is singing karoke to the tune, as if she is just singing over the recording (I know that's the reality...)
It could be just because I listened to the premastered verision too many times either (it had a permanent slot on my mp3 player)
Denadoro Climb
I love this song. I always dig the Wind Tune and this is great. "Great" is an understatement, believe me...But the from 1:00 the drums in the background are...annoying. It might be my subwoofer, but I am using Altec Lansing, and this particular model has no knob to turn the "bam-bam-bam" down.
Those are the more jarring one so far..
Wasn't there a track which incoporates the Singing Mountain?
I am getting this error while trying to play the .flac files:
Chrono_Symphonic_01_Inciting_Incident.flac: ERROR while encoding metadata state = FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_ABORTED
Compyfox
01-04-2006, 03:54 AM
Well you got the FLAC decoder from the FLAC project page? Cause they all work for me
LatentSanity
01-04-2006, 04:01 AM
All I have to say is:
Amazing.
That, and I'm glad that the final version of To Far Away Times didn't have the excess instrumentation behind it.
Great job, everyone.
The Damned
01-04-2006, 04:12 AM
I haven't even heard any of the music yet, and I already feel like every project after this is going to suck in comparison...
Way to raise the bar, guys. Thanks a lot. :roll:
Having listened to the music now, I stand by the above statement.
extrakun
01-04-2006, 04:21 AM
Well you got the FLAC decoder from the FLAC project page? Cause they all work for me
Yes, it's from the SourceForge. I try uninstalling/reinstalling the codex and see if it changes anything.
The Xyco
01-04-2006, 04:43 AM
Here's a general review from yours truly. Very fluffy.
Sometimes when I'm listening to music, either at home on my computer or in my car driving from place to place, I'll put on thematic music, often from video games, and play out different movie scenes in my head to go along with it. Chrono Symphonic essentially took this concept from a different angle and expanded on it, tremendously. Needless to say, I've been very anxious to listen to the final product. After some delays, of which are completely acceptable and understandable (<3 Compy), I finally found it on the front page of OCR. Without delay, I got all the songs, burned two CD's, and went for a drive.
First of all, I'd like to acknowledge the fantastic direction of this project. Unlike previous OCR projects, Chrono Symphonic's concept is ambitious and clear. Creating a movie soundtrack, for a movie that does not even exist mind you, is no small task, and all those involved in the project deserve a well-earned pat on the back for their efforts.
The music is, in the simplest of forms, wonderfully theatrical. I'll admit I haven't yet read the script, but as I listened to the music, I was more than capable of developing the intended themes and images in my imagination (of course, being considerably familiar with the original game's story doesn't hurt either).
One of the most impressive features of Chrono Symphonic is the use of character theme song motifs, particularly those of Frog and Magus, which appear several times throughout the production. The recurring melodies, which manifest themselves in different tones and tempos, really exentuate the procession of events and mark times of strong character influence.
Other times, the twisting of thoughts and emotions through the music really creates a detailed image for the listener. Darkesword wrote this for track 20 - "Crono's Dream"
The script called for Crono to slowly realize that something very wrong was going on, so I tried to illustrate that by using some dissonance and diminished intervals. I think it was pretty effective; as the song progresses, it gets darker and more sinister.”
Damn straight it did. I'll tell you it downright sent shivers down my spine. Chrono Symphonic does this again and again, for several emtions. Courage, fear, sorrow, they're all here, they're all presented very clearly, and they're all within context.
This isn't to say, however, that Chrono Symphonic is without it's faults. Though most of these could be attributed to personal beefs with some artistic liberties, sometimes there were some musical paths walked down that one might raise an eyebrow towards.
From a personal standpoint, I was somewhat disappointed that some previous tracks slated for the project didn't make it. However, it's easily and clearly understandable that some tracks were more suited for the concept than others. Essentially, it's the price you pay for a highly conceptual and specific project such as this, and I have full confidence in those involved that they were the right decisions.
It's been a long wait, but it's been every bit worth waiting for. Use the torrents, get the songs, and listen to them all in succession in one sitting. All in all, Chrono Symphonic succeeds any film it could be intended to supplement.
Some comments on the tracks I felt really stuck out.
Track 07 - "Revelation of Fire":
Interesting use of the trial theme here. I like it, both musically and for it's intent. Really gives off the shock and horror of watching the world being systematically destroyed.
Track 12 - "Darkest Omen":
I remember downloading a previous version of this track quite some time ago. The final product is much more clear and listenable. It's a bit hard to picture this intially as a reminiscence due to this track's kinetic nature, but it does convey that "epic battle" element you mentioned in the comments.
Track 16 - "Schala and the Queen":
Goes without saying that this is one of the more ambitious tracks of the project, combining several elements and ideas all into one tightly-mixed six-and-a-half minute song. As ellywu2 put it, it came off in several stages, all of which help create a highly dramatic effect, a sort of climax of events. I liked how Magus' theme came on to the scene, giving a strong sense of conflict. The final use of the Lavos Battle Theme in the slower, more heroic tone really helps develop the entire idea of a turning point in the story.
By the way, pixietricks, I love your voice.
Track 20 - "Crono's Dream":
As I mentioned before, this track is very effective at conveying a sense of fear. The shivery sound of the strings initially reflect the sinister forces at work that become more and more present as the track develops. I couldn't fall asleep listening to this and not get nightmares.
That about does it for now, I'll put up some more comments as I listen to the project more.
Nice work everyone.
Electronic Samurai
01-04-2006, 07:41 AM
Magnificent.
higgs
01-04-2006, 09:05 AM
Damn Yasunori Mitsuda should definitely hear that. Some way. Somehow.
Also, sorry to say that, but Darkest Omen is kinda poor. It's totally identical to the game original tune except for the last 1min15 where there's an additional piano :?
Wanderer
01-04-2006, 09:18 AM
Just fabulous. I'm so very pleased by how this turned out after following it periodically over the entire process. I can remember listening to early versions of several of the songs, and I am very satisfied with how everything turned out.
It works better than projects before it because it really feels cohesive as a whole while remaining at a very high level of quality. Reading the goals of each song while listening through it the first time enriches the experience so much, and the artists have succeeded in fulfilling Claado's vision through the music. I also really like how certain themes pop up several times throughout the album, whereas we are left with a disjoint feeling with with singular remixes of each theme for previous projects.
Of the new previously unreleased tracks, I'm most impressed with Morning Sunlight, Darkness Dueling, Revelation of Fire, Hymn of Valor, Crono's Dream, and The New Beginning. The album is so consistently good and there was not a single track that was a letdown.
There is a certain sense of magic from this project that I never felt when listening to the other ones. Thanks to everyone involved for bringing this to us, you've made this community proud.
Compyfox
01-04-2006, 12:23 PM
And after one day... the hype is already gone.
Come on folks. Nothing to say about the crappy bass mix and the humongus reverb on most of the tracks? That somebody didn't notice that one yet, hm... And how does it sound on a surround setup (ProLogic)?
Zeality
01-04-2006, 12:29 PM
Well, the slashdot hasn't gone through yet either. The game section has had no new posts since last night when I submitted, so hopefully it'll pop up today.
Amaranth
01-04-2006, 02:39 PM
Holy shit, this is great stuff. You guys rock. :)
DarkeSword
01-04-2006, 03:03 PM
Anyone what to submit a story to Digg?
http://digg.com/
extrakun
01-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Come on folks. Nothing to say about the crappy bass mix and the humongus reverb on most of the tracks? That somebody didn't notice that one yet, hm... And how does it sound on a surround setup (ProLogic)?
I did notice, but you have already stated that you recieved private PMs about it, so...
Dan Kiden
01-04-2006, 04:46 PM
Chrono Symphonic has been a long time coming. It's really a shame that Square never gave Chrono Trigger the kind of orchestral love that it shows for Final Fantasy (concerts! I would kill for a CT concert. You hear me, Square?). But never fear; Claado Shou, OCR and the Chrono Symphonic team have saved the day.
Now, on to the music. As above posters have said, the success of CS relies on its use and reuse of certain character motifs (in subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways) and an awesome sense of cohesion. The goal was one orchestra, one sound; the result is one orchestra.
What sticks out for me is when an artist uses a theme in a fashion different from its original intention. A good example of this is "Crono's Dream," where "Peaceful Days" warps and becomes disorienting. It's unnatural yet familiar, and it works.
By far my favorite track is "To Far Away Times" by Reuben Kee and pixietricks. I'd been following the project a long time, and by that I mean I downloaded every demo, wip, every file that was available to the public before the project went top secret. When I first heard Reuben's WIP of the song, I nearly fell apart. It was so perfect. I'll admit I was hesitant to hear that a vocalist had been added, but after listening and understanding the lyrics, she did nothing but add the undeniable warmth of a soft, human voice. Favorite lyric:
"As the shadow dawns upon us, all I seem to think about is where our hope has faded away into"
Good stuff.
About the mixing (this is for Compyfox): I consider myself an average musician (piano and organ) and have no real hope to learn all the technicalities of audio mixing and engineering, but I hope you can take what I'm going to say to heart:
Ignorance is bliss.
I have no idea about reverb or -5 dB vs -10 dB, whatever. But I do know what's pleasing to my ears. This stuff, Chrono Symphonic, is pleasing to the ears.
These fans have been waiting a long time for this. They're in love with the source material and the Remixers' work. I don't think the Average Joe Gamer is going to beat you up over it. It's kinda disconcerting to hear you knock your own work. It sounds great. So relax and take some pride in what you've done.
All in all, great job. In the time that I've taken to listen to CS and type up this post, my mind has changed. Square, I don't need to wish for a CT orchestral concert that will never happen. I have Chrono Symphonic.
GrayLightning
01-04-2006, 06:16 PM
And after one day... the hype is already gone.
Come on folks. Nothing to say about the crappy bass mix and the humongus reverb on most of the tracks? That somebody didn't notice that one yet, hm... And how does it sound on a surround setup (ProLogic)?
Actually we were discussing this project in the panel last night. Liontamer and I felt the reverb was actually too small and dry for a film score type soundtrack or this particular context.
[21:33] <Liontamer> He tried to do a small hall sound, but I think it doesn't sound full at all.... It's too dry. (Larry was fine with this direct quote)
There are many ways to approach an orchestral mix, but in this context, more reverb and lushness is usually better.
DrFizzle
01-04-2006, 07:01 PM
start digging!
http://digg.com/music/Chrono_Trigger_Movie_Soundtrack
Heh...seems the pixie tracks are getting a lot of attention. :) I personally think they're great too, but there were some issues with pronunciation that were distracting to me. Particularly the pronunciation of combination vowels as a single syllable. When singing in Japanese, each vowel is pronounced individually over separate syllables. The same goes for ending n's. So "chiheisen" would be sung "chi-he-e-se-n," in five beats, not three. In addition, in the case of doubled consonants, the preceding vowel is extended by a beat. So "ikkai" would be sung "i-i-ka-i," over four beats instead of two.
Check out this helpful page (http://www.chudahs-corner.com/singing/index.php) if you want more info (or if you just want to make sure I'm not pulling your leg ;) ).
Great job with the project in general though. Thanks and congratulations to everyone who participated!
Jillian Aversa
01-04-2006, 09:06 PM
I see what you're saying Dhsu, and I appreciate the effort. But the reason there were a few spots like that are because the lyrics were written first in English by Claado Shou, and *then* translated. I had to sing the text that was given to me according to the music that was provided, so the two didn't always match up. I tried to make the best of the situation.
Honestly, I've been studying and singing in the language for almost two years now, so I know the loops. I think you're being just a tad picky.
Zeality
01-04-2006, 09:10 PM
...
Anyway, Slashdot still hasn't posted the news, probably because the Game guy has a ton of stuff to post today. I'm going to give it until midnight.
DanTheClam
01-04-2006, 09:44 PM
I registered for the forums months ago, and I've heard a lot of remixes that I thought about reviewing for my first post. However, nothing ever quite pushed me hard enough to review until Chrono Symphonic, so it earns that dubious honor.
First of all, to all the remixers, you guys did an amazing job. I've listened through 3 times and am on my 4th time through now, and all of this music is simply wonderful. Also, major props go to Claado Shou, Compyfox, StarZander, eon_blue, and any others I missed who worked on the project aspect. Thanks to all of you who worked so hard on this. I'll go into a bit of detail on my favorite pieces so far:
"Blue Skies Over Guardia" - Darkesword. I got this track from OCR months ago and loved it from first hearing it. It's already an old favorite, so I guess it's got an unfair advantage on the others. Parts of it have a very un-orchestral sound (particularly the clapping-like sound, which sounds more like Darkesword's more conventional mixes), but actually I think this gives the track a lot of its energy. The bell is a nice way to introduce the track, and the strings develop it well. The brass carries the melody nicely, and the string and piano doing harmony fit very well. I especially like the solo piano (well, solo piano + bell and later solo piano + strings) parts.
"Manifest Destiny" - SirRus. I love the pizzicato strings (though I'm not such a big fan of the xylophone [I guess that's what that sound is?] that accompanies the pizzicato strings). They make a good substitution for the original instrumentation, something I was a little worried about before hearing the mix; it's a little unusual music to put into orchestral format. Also, there's great variation from the simple background line every now and then; some of the variations on the original arpeggio that the pizz strings play just sound really good. Also, the solo string instrument (sounds more like a viola than a violin, but doesn't really matter) is well-used and has a great tone quality to it. Great arrangement.
"Darkest Omen" - mv. The Black Omen music was my favorite part of the CT Soundtrack, and this arrangement definitely does it justice. I especially like the low brass throughout, and the strings during the bridge. The percussion is also very nicely done throughout. The brief choir hits are a cool touch.
"The New Beginning" - Sleepy Emp. Doesn't really catch my attention at the beginning, but about a minute in, it really picks up. The variations on the melody are extremely well done, and the instrumentation is great. Who doesn't love a little wind chimes every now and then?
"To Far Away Times" - Reuben Kee and pixietricks. Beautiful piano, beautiful voice, pretty arrangement. What more is there to say?
I'm going to be listening to this music for a long, long time. Thanks to everybody who worked on this for giving us a lasting gift.
farok
01-04-2006, 09:50 PM
I have been lurking here a few months trying to learn a little about the remixes. I personally prefer the orchestral or piano mixes to the electronic mixes. I've been following this particular project since page 85 or 90 and have been patiently waiting. Now that it's released, I can't help but be amazed at the final product! I agree with Dan Kiden that while I don't know the different aspects of mixing, I do know that I love the final results! While I haven't listened to all the tracks yet, I will say that I'm impressed so much that I had to register and post a big thank you to Claado, Compy, and everyone else who has played a part in this project. You all deserve so much more than you get, and I HOPE you didn't take the pitiful complaints that you got on the development thread seriously. The project was WELL worth the wait! Again, thanks for an awesome and nostalgic auditory experience.
Farok
PS - The only thing I've noticed that seemed a little odd is that some of the tracks seem to end relatively suddenly...
That's because they are crossfaded into the next track. You should play them all back to back to get the full effect. :)
I see what you're saying Dhsu, and I appreciate the effort. But the reason there were a few spots like that are because the lyrics were written first in English by Claado Shou, and *then* translated. I had to sing the text that was given to me according to the music that was provided, so the two didn't always match up. I tried to make the best of the situation.
Honestly, I've been studying and singing in the language for almost two years now, so I know the loops. I think you're being just a tad picky.
Hey, people are paid to be "picky"! :D Besides, that's about as picky as saying you should avoid parallel 5ths in your partwriting assignments, or that you shouldn't drink soup with a fork. It's not just a matter of "to-may-to" vs. "to-mah-to." :P
Of course, I did realize the circumstances you had to work with, but before I posted, I went back to listen to your Zelda64 arrangement and noticed the same issues, and in that case you were at a greater liberty to change the notes or words. So yeah, my comments weren't meant as an attack, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't an honest mistake. I hope you understand how it could've come across that way.
higgs
01-04-2006, 10:22 PM
Why is there written "Well, it's my turn to go on a journey!" at the bottom right hand corner of the album art?
Zeality
01-04-2006, 10:45 PM
That's Mitsuda's line in the Dream Team ending of Chrono Trigger. He then walks out of the room.
Jillian Aversa
01-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Hey, people are paid to be "picky"! Besides, that's about as picky as saying you should avoid parallel 5ths in your partwriting assignments, or that you shouldn't drink soup with a fork. It's not just a matter of "to-may-to" vs. "to-mah-to."
Of course, I did realize the circumstances you had to work with, but before I posted, I went back to listen to your Zelda64 arrangement and noticed the same issues, and in that case you were at a greater liberty to change the notes or words. So yeah, my comments weren't meant as an attack, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't an honest mistake. I hope you understand how it could've come across that way.
Yeah, my Zelda mix was recorded over a year ago; I've learned a lot since then. But honestly, that website you linked to is mainly for pop singing, and even then they aren't set rules. There is a lot more liberty than you would think, and in classical singing it's a whole different story. I probabaly know a lot *more* about this stuff than you, no offense. I have two Japanese teachers at Johns Hopkins, plus a Japanese vocal coach at Peabody Conservatory of Music... :roll:
Tegeran
01-05-2006, 12:09 AM
Yikes. I just stopped my server from seeding the torrent for a while to let it just serve the mp3s (I'll start seeding again when things cool down a little).
My 10mbit/sec connection bursts to ~20. The torrent was holding steady at 15mbit/sec plus the HTTP traffic from the mp3s. Apparently, somebody likes Chrono Symphonic. :)
Claado Shou
01-05-2006, 12:25 AM
Thanks for the nice comments, everyone. As for the less-favorable comments lingering out there, you can't please all of the people all of the time. I hope you'll listen to it again without listening for what's wrong, and just enjoy everything that went right.
As for Zas's issue...the same thing happened with mv and Russell Cox. They didn't get to me in time, so I took what they had said in the past and fluffed it up. Now that we have the chance to correct it (since they're paying attention now), we will. I'm sort of indisposed ATM Zas, but tell StarZander what to fix and he'll do it as soon as he can. And if I remember correctly, on the last dozen or so pages of the other thread, you said that Battle with Magus was in there. So that's why I put it in.
Compyfox, please stop trying to make everyone aware of the imperfections in the site. Just be happy it's released, instead of upset that StarZander couldn't be here to release on time. You broke so many deadlines yourself, it's essentially the pot calling the kettle black. It'll get fixed eventually.
As for everyone else, please continue to share your thoughts. I appreciate all the enthusiasm.
~.C.S.~
Ab56 v2 aka Ash
01-05-2006, 12:28 AM
My real gripe with this project (even though it's really good) is that a few source tunes were used so much that I lost interest in some tracks. Just check out the remix track listing at the CS page. Frog's Theme makes FIVE appearances! Battle With Magus has six! I know they're both good tracks and I'm not opposed to using source tunes more than once, but that was total overkill if I do say so myself.
Some personal favorite tracks are:
Morning Sunlight - sephire, SirRus
Door to the End of Time - blakey
In terms of the imagery, I can totally see Crono and the gang tentatively taking steps in a cold, musty courtyard toward a sleeping old man and seeing the portals to all the other times on their way. That was beautiful man.
Schala and the Queen - ellywu, pixietricks
Crono's Dream - Darkesword
Shariq, this is creepy as heck, ji. The transition from the happy feeling to the sense of impending doom was smooth.
I will write more when I finish reading Frankenstein :x
underburntskies
01-05-2006, 01:21 AM
My real gripe with this project (even though it's really good) is that a few source tunes were used so much that I lost interest in some tracks. Just check out the remix track listing at the CS page. Frog's Theme makes FIVE appearances! Battle With Magus has six! I know they're both good tracks and I'm not opposed to using source tunes more than once, but that was total overkill if I do say so myself.
I would agree if it were just a remix project. Since this is the soundtrack to the Chrono Trigger "movie," I personally feel that the repitition of certain themes is appropriate.
Anyway, I just want to say that I've been following this project since Claado Shou first proposed the idea back in 2004. All that I can say is that everybody involved has done an incredible job. In my opinion, this is easily the best site project that I have yet heard. Fucking beautiful.
But honestly, that website you linked to is mainly for pop singing, and even then they aren't set rules. There is a lot more liberty than you would think, and in classical singing it's a whole different story. I probabaly know a lot *more* about this stuff than you, no offense. I have two Japanese teachers at Johns Hopkins, plus a Japanese vocal coach at Peabody Conservatory of Music... :roll:
Well, 18th century theory principles aren't the be-all end-all of composition either, but they apply to other genres as well and following them keeps music from sounding weird. Besides, Chrono Trigger isn't exactly what I'd call classical Japanese music. :)
Of course, if your two Japanese teachers and Japanese vocal coach say it's all right, then I suppose I can't disagree. Carry on.
Jillian Aversa
01-05-2006, 01:37 AM
Besides, Chrono Trigger isn't exactly what I'd call classical Japanese music.
The game is Japanese and the project is symphonic. I think that's enough to warrant some classical decisions. ^_^
mikelee
01-05-2006, 01:47 AM
My real gripe with this project (even though it's really good) is that a few source tunes were used so much that I lost interest in some tracks. Just check out the remix track listing at the CS page. Frog's Theme makes FIVE appearances! Battle With Magus has six! I know they're both good tracks and I'm not opposed to using source tunes more than once, but that was total overkill if I do say so myself.
I wanted to wait until I had listened to the whole album a few times before saying anything, but I felt like I should respond to this first.
On one level, I have to agree that there seems to be some overuse of source tunes. But that's not really my complaint, because I think that it was pretty cool that a single project could use certain source tunes so many ways, in so many interpretations, and in so many different contexts. There may a couple of times when this doesn't work as well, but in general, I feel that it's a cool thing when a single mix can interweave different themes in it. And if you think about it, there are definitely lots of movie soundtracks that use the same melodies more than once, perhaps changing from major to minor, or at a different tempo, or for totally different scenes.
My real complaint, though, would be the omission of certain tunes. Of course I respect the decision to keep the scope of the cinematic interpretation down as movies always make these decisions out of necessity, but there were some memorable tunes I really miss (particularly the part where the trumpets come in during Magus's tune, the epic parts of the World Revolution theme, and many of the dungeon themes, like the sewer music). Overall though, I'm very much impressed. Great job, and thanks to all who made the project what it was.
-Mike
(full review to come later...might not be for a few days though)
Well, I just noticed the part I was talking about in the Magus theme in Unknown's Parting of Ways, and the little oboe solo take on it works extremely well. Just goes to show I ought to stick to my word and wait until I stop using this thing as background music and really give it a serious listen before saying anything about it...
DragonAvenger
01-05-2006, 01:54 AM
I'm on my second listenthrough at the moment and I love it! I really like that you had the specific goal of a movie soundtrack, and it really sounds exactly like it. Very nice.
I am dissapointed that I didn't hear a full on "To Good Friends" mix in there. When coupled with "To Far Away Times" I feel like it holds much more power.
arias
01-05-2006, 02:18 AM
But honestly, that website you linked to is mainly for pop singing, and even then they aren't set rules. There is a lot more liberty than you would think, and in classical singing it's a whole different story. I probabaly know a lot *more* about this stuff than you, no offense. I have two Japanese teachers at Johns Hopkins, plus a Japanese vocal coach at Peabody Conservatory of Music... :roll:
Well, 18th century theory principles aren't the be-all end-all of composition either, but they apply to other genres as well and following them keeps music from sounding weird. Besides, Chrono Trigger isn't exactly what I'd call classical Japanese music. :)
Of course, if your two Japanese teachers and Japanese vocal coach say it's all right, then I suppose I can't disagree. Carry on.
Why argue? The professionals must have it right. The trained must have it right. There is no value in the opinions of the untrained, or lesser trained. Or so some people claim :roll:
Still think people can do with a little more modesty, and not take the negative comments as "unable to please everyone" but appropriate feedback that you can choose to consider whether or not to take upon as direction to improve. Or discard, if your musical vision differs.
Following this post, I received PMs..
Do you stalk me? I swear, the only times I see you post are to get on my case. You're a prick.
Oh sure, balancing out opinions, uh huh. (troll)
:roll: Well, I surrender. No matter, good work on most of the stuff, people.
Zeality
01-05-2006, 02:25 AM
Slashdot has still not posted the news.
If someone else has connections or wants to try, please include mention of the interview and Coliseum 2.0.
SirRus
01-05-2006, 02:54 AM
I have listened to nearly the whole album in random order and am now going through "chronologically" so to speak. A lot of these have rocked! I'll give my full impressions of some of my favorites later, but for now I have to say to seph, it's a good thing we threw in those church bells into our collab - it flowed real smooth into Darkeswords "Blue Skies" mix, I think it might even be the very same bell sample! Hah, great work everyone, I am very very impressed with all the talent that went into this project, from music composition to production to organization and presentation. We rock.
watkinzez
01-05-2006, 03:03 AM
This was the first site project I listened to all the way through without going ahead and spoiling it. Blame bitorrent on that one. I'm glad I did, though, as Chrono Symphonic doesn't seem to work half as well separately. Not since Relics of the Chozo has a logical progression been used to effect within the entire collaboration. Not without a few hiccups on the way, however.
The album opens with Inciting Incident, which was always a good start to open with. It's short, sweet, a nice build up that tugs on the CT fanboy's nostalgia they've had ever since finishing the game. Here we begin to see the fruits of Compyfox's labour, this track having been released for quite a while. The main difference is the percussion, being much deeper and more satisfying. It sounds good, but to agree with Gray and Larry, a feeling of dryness comes across somewhat.
From its beginning, Morning Sunlight seems a little redundant due to its similar intro, but does end up being an asset to the album. The use of piano in the latter stages brings a warmth to the track, and acts as a 'calm before the storm' entry. Despite its relative obscurity in the context of the album, this came across rather well, and is one of my favourites.
Blue Skies Over Guardia was always a favourite Darkesword track of mine, preferring his orchestral works over others. Though it may seem cheap to simply reuse that track in this release, the blow is softened by Roland's mastering- now the lower end has more power than before.
I've never heard any of Sleepy Emp's work before (unless a name change was in order), but I have to say that I was impressed with his work and To Lands Unknown. A pity this had to end prematurely in order to work with the script.
The dark intro set a good mood for a battle track, but I'm not sure the piano quite worked for Darkness Dueling. Nice soloing, but I wasn't quite feeling 'an onslaught of robotic enemies'. For its short time in the spotlight, the song repeated the melody twice, so maybe the lack on length on it was a good thing after all.
Zas' recent Prelude mix on OCR was a good track, and definitely advocated his talents. I don't feel Lucca's Arrival was quite as good, but was a nice addition to the album. One thing that striked me, however, was the mastering- Prelude gave off more power than this track, though that may have more to do with the composition than Roland's work.
Seeing Claado Shou's name on the tracklist always gave me an uneasy feeling, not having heard his work before, as well as being a relative newcomer in the community. Revelation of Fire brought mixed feelings upon listening- the strings seemed mechanical, as was the rest of the composition. I don't feel like the Trial source tune worked well in this context, which was always more trivial compared to the big bad Lavos. Length also seemed to strangle this one a bit, not allowing a sufficient buildup in the song.
The opening drums on Hymn of Valor were a little underwhelming, midi like in nature. Good news, then, that they gave little indication on the rest of the song. This one was good, a sufficient buildup projecting power without being particularly loud.
I'm glad ellywu2 came through in finishing his work on Chrono Symphonic, as his songs always indicate power and pacing. Frog's Intervention is possibly my favourite track on the album (which may or may not have to do with the source tune). Nevertheless, this one does the Frog theme justice in my words, an epicness present with use of volume and build to end up with a great representation of one of the coolest source tunes for a frog ever.
At first I though PLBenjaminZ was the same as Neil Benjamin of Far Away Memories and Tragedy of a Bullet- no big loss, as Denadoro Climb turns out to be a decent spin on the oft covered Wind Scene. Nothing much to say here, as it's what you'd expect in such an arrangement. I'm a little perplexed on why such a source tune was used in this song, however, Underground Sewer being the actual tune played in this section of the game.
ellywu2 with Frog's theme again, yet The Masamune manages to be an entirely different take on the theme. You can tell that the scene which this plays in would be a classic movie moment, upon seeing the Masamune glinting atop the rock. Though being of the same source from the same artist, this track also manages to be one of my favourites.
I doubt a mixer as prominent as mv needs help on his work, as Darkest Omen doesn't do much wrong per se. It is precariously close to the source though, and its place here in the track list seems very strange. In terms of the Frog/Cyrus flashback, it doesn't work at all. Orchestration wise, it's great.
As good as the source tune is, Confronting the Mystic fails to do the same thing to the listener. Diving head first into the main tune seemed premature and goes against what the original tune was doing in the first place. In other genres, I'd praise the variation from the original, but for a bombastic orchestral score, the buildup just isn't there. Sorry, sephfire.
I wouldn't have counted Door to the End of Time to premiere Chrono Symphonic on the OCR front page, but after, actually listening to it, one realises its flair in using several source tunes to recreate Chrono Trigger on the silver screen. From the interesting intro to the fading ending, the transitions help capture the feeling without being too long or tedious. I've always liked Set Sail, and to see more from Blake is a treat. Nice work.
We've heard it far too many times, but SirRus manages to prevent the Zeal melody from sounding bland and a 'been there, got the t- shirt' vibe. Manifest Destiny actually capitalizes on the Eastern flavour of the source, oft overlooked by other mixers. Like the respective section in the game, this song is fairly short, and thankfully doesn't outstay its welcome.
I'm not sure what to think with the Schala and the Queen collaboration. The longest track on the album, I got a vibe of medleyitis initially, and I'm not sure whether the transition to vocals worked too well. Even knowing that they would appear, the sudden onslaught of Japanese made me go, "What're you doing here, Miss Goldin?" extrakun's comment on a karaoke vibe felt apparent, the volume change too much in a small amount of time. After overlooking that issue, however, the song manages to create an interesting experience. Even now I'm not quite sure where it's going to go compositionally, which could be seen as a plus or minus. I'm leaning to the more positive side personally, the ending capping off a long track well.
Mr Triplett returns once more in The Third Guru, with much the same problems as his first track on the album. Upon first listen, my thought was that the two tracks were originally one, cut in half with a melody painted over. Though that may sound harsh, I feel that it's noticeable enough not to ignore. I hope that you, Andrew, use these tracks to improve your musical ability, as they do contain promise, just too mechanical.
Rellik is a multi talented musician, evident in both his electronica and orchestral works. Though the name is already taken (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01242/), Beneath the Surface manages to take the desperation in the original source tune and use it with flair. The power and volume is impressive, I wish it were that much longer.
Mr Ansari second track on the album is more a bridge than a seperate song, The Rising acting as a prelude to the imminent battles ahead. Nothing amazing, but it doesn't really have to draw attention to itself. The short length helps it cover the repetition.
A double Darkesword with Crono's Dream. Really a black sheep on the album, Shariq accomplishes something different as compared to the rest of the songs. The descent into an unsettling, off key rendition of the theme is an interesting and fun to listen to effect, but it would have been cooler if there was more of an ending to the piece.
If you've heard one Russell Cox piece, you've heard them all, not that that's a bad thing. For such a turning point in the score, The Chrono Trigger seems to lack an emotion that would be needed at this point. Standalone, however, it's a nice song, which may be a little too quiet. The ending helps wrap things up with a sudden burst of sound and energy.
Tyler Heath rocks. There's no doubting that fact. A Parting of Ways uses bursts of sound to help keep the listener interested, and breaks up the monotomy to create a great experience. The dynamics really make the song, and help create a precursor feeling to the next track, and the final battle.
The Last Stand was a great surprise to me, a sign of maturation from RoeTaKa's musical ability. I could never envision him doing an orchestral piece, but here Alex manages to deliver a emotionally powerful final battle score. Some of the transitions were a bit stunted, and a bad note is apparent at 5:18 , but the final product worked well in the album (I'm liking 3:25 as a glimmer of hope), standing up to expectation. I'm confident we'll see the name RoeTaKa on OCR's home page soon enough.
The aftermath, one expects something something mushy and soothing, but the explosion of orchestra in The New Beginning definitely helps round out Chrono Symphonic in a grand way. This is really a great ending to the album, no complaints here.
Acting as the ending credits solo piece, the rendition of To Far Away Times is a great piece. Despite my listening to it far too many times before the project's release, it still has a freshness in its composition, lyrics, and singing. A great collaboration from Reuben Kee, pixietricks and Claado Shou.
Despite some improvements that could be made in various areas, I feel that this came out rather well. It's not my favourite project (I doubt anything will ever top Kong in Concert for me), but this was quality. I thank everyone that helped make this a reality. And I'm not even that big a fan of Chrono Trigger (still haven't beaten Lavos, dammit).
SILVERWOLF
01-05-2006, 05:08 AM
If you've heard one Russell Cox piece, you've heard them all, not that that's a bad thing. For such a turning point in the score, The Chrono Trigger seems to lack an emotion that would be needed at this point. Standalone, however, it's a nice song, which may be a little too quiet. The ending helps wrap things up with a sudden burst of sound and energy.
Personally I think the very soft and simple section with just the xylophone (I probably spelled that wrong, and I don't know if it's even that instrument) from 2:18 to 2:33 is a very emotional part of the piece. I only wish it lasted longer.
sephfire
01-05-2006, 05:26 AM
As good as the source tune is, Confronting the Mystic fails to do the same thing to the listener. Diving head first into the main tune seemed premature and goes against what the original tune was doing in the first place. In other genres, I'd praise the variation from the original, but for a bombastic orchestral score, the buildup just isn't there. Sorry, sephfire.
I can't argue with you. :roll: Such are the limitations of the 2 minute time limit. There are probably ways that such an intro could have been forced in, but as far as "script-adherence" goes, I still stand by my arrangement decisions with this one (mostly).
As long as I'm explaining, I had imagined a lot of the emotional buildup being driven by the scene's pre-fight dialogue. Then the chorus/string buildup would come in just as Magus made it clear that he was about to kill himself some intrusive pre-teens (by lifting his scythe or whatever). Then the music moves straight into the battle. Halfway through, the intensity drops as a resounding BOOM alerts everyone to Lavos's awakening. Then the panicky music at the end plays as everyone tries to escape the huge vortex.
Again, things could definitely have been reworked. If I were to do it all over again, I'd concern myself less with the script and more with service to the source tune. I may eventually create an extended version of the track for OCR submission to do just that, but until then I'm still quite proud of the remix as it is.
BTW, great work everyone. This is definitely a real treat. :)
SILVERWOLF
01-05-2006, 06:01 AM
Ack, I can't believe I haven't even written a simple "Thank You" yet :oops:
So yeah, THANKS!!! :D
watkinzez
01-05-2006, 07:41 AM
As good as the source tune is, Confronting the Mystic fails to do the same thing to the listener. Diving head first into the main tune seemed premature and goes against what the original tune was doing in the first place. In other genres, I'd praise the variation from the original, but for a bombastic orchestral score, the buildup just isn't there. Sorry, sephfire.
I can't argue with you. :roll: Such are the limitations of the 2 minute time limit. There are probably ways that such an intro could have been forced in, but as far as "script-adherence" goes, I still stand by my arrangement decisions with this one (mostly).
As long as I'm explaining, I had imagined a lot of the emotional buildup being driven by the scene's pre-fight dialogue. Then the chorus/string buildup would come in just as Magus made it clear that he was about to kill himself some intrusive pre-teens (by lifting his scythe or whatever). Then the music moves straight into the battle. Halfway through, the intensity drops as a resounding BOOM alerts everyone to Lavos's awakening. Then the panicky music at the end plays as everyone tries to escape the huge vortex.
Again, things could definitely have been reworked. If I were to do it all over again, I'd concern myself less with the script and more with service to the source tune. I may eventually create an extended version of the track for OCR submission to do just that, but until then I'm still quite proud of the remix as it is.
BTW, great work everyone. This is definitely a real treat. :)
Cool. An extended mix would be something to look out for, Magus seems to be a tune everyone overlooks because it's such a good track in the first place (though Unknown's piece on the project was pretty good).
PLBenjaminZ
01-05-2006, 08:21 AM
At first I though PLBenjaminZ was the same as Neil Benjamin of Far Away Memories and Tragedy of a Bullet- no big loss, as Denadoro Climb turns out to be a decent spin on the oft covered Wind Scene. Nothing much to say here, as it's what you'd expect in such an arrangement. I'm a little perplexed on why such a source tune was used in this song, however, Underground Sewer being the actual tune played in this section of the game.
Sorry to disappoint you for not being whoever that is lol... I'm just some dumb kid who started trying to remix Chrono Trigger songs last year when out of no where an opportunity to make an orchestral arrangement of one of my favorite games presented itself, so I auditioned and what do you know I got accepted. :) Denadoro Climb was the fourth arrangement I've ever made in my life (with the audition peice being the third) and the second arrangement I made actually was Underground Sewer, so I didn't think I'd want to arrange the same song twice... :?
Anyways, great job on the project everyone! It turned out to be a lot better than I expected it to be. My favorite piece by far is A Parting of Ways. It has a lot of feeling to it and I just like the instrumentation for some reason (the bells, but OMG WAS THAT A GUITAR at 2:59!?!? I WISH I COULD'VE USED GUITARS ON MY PIECE LOL!); but mainly the way Unknown protrayed Magus was what made it great to me. I can't wait for the Special Edition now! Remastered tracks and new ones :twisted: I want more~ :roll:
eDit: cool 50 posts i'm a dan hibiki now, whatever that is :?
ps: i like red guitars... and pineapple.
SirRus
01-05-2006, 08:34 AM
yeah i heard guitar in unknowns track wtf.. it is definitely one my faves though
Funky Munky
01-05-2006, 04:34 PM
I've listened to more of the soudntrack since my last post, and I have one thing to say:
Thank You
Chrono Trigger music is so amazing, and this only boosts my love for the game's music.
I've heard the first song several times now and it still sends chills down my spine...
This will be on my most played list for a long time...
Ice Dragon
01-05-2006, 05:36 PM
Wow, this is excellent stuff. I'm big on orchestral music and in fact I have a big 100+ song playlist of orchestral and piano remixes that I really enjoy. I was looking forward to something less aggressive than past site projects such as the Doom and Metroid ones. I really like Chrono Trigger music as well, so overall I was ready for a project like this. This is definitely a well done album.
Sephfire – Inciting Incident 3:36
Excellent, nice introduction. I really liked this.
Sephfire, SirRus – Morning Sunlight 4:23
Nice. I'm always a stickler for some good piano. The violins really rocked, I got chills when I listened to this for about the 4th time (I listen to this album in order, and only in order). Still, I wish there were 'more' violins. That is to say, normally I think of an orchestra as having more violins playing. So layering violins might be interesting for this.
DarkeSword – Blue Skies Over Guardia 4:40
Not much different from the original that I listen to regularly, but I do notice a difference with the 'clapping'. Even so, I really like this still. Personally though, I wish there were 'more' violins.
Sleepy Emp – To Lands Unknown 2:06
Woohoo, I'm digging this. Just way way way too short for me. The complaints about violins in previous mixes doesn't hold for this one, it really sounds like you have a good orchestra-sized team of violinists :)
LunarHeart – Darkness Dueling 2:10
I really like this. I like the pace. Just way way too short, like the last one. I felt like the piano was just getting good and then it stopped :(
I heard someone else say that this didn't sound appropriate for a scene in which Chrono & Co. are attacked by a horde of robots. I agree, but I would have expected something more electronic anyway so this works for me. Besides, I didn't read the script so I don't have any preconceived notion about how this should sound :) Although I did play Chrono Trigger.
Zas – Lucca's Arrival 3:05
Excellent. I felt that about half-way through I was entering Bowser's castle, but anyway...:) I really enjoyed this one. A little on the short side, but not bad.
Claado Shou – Revelation of Fire 2:21
I really liked this, certainly a more epic take on the trial theme. I always liked the trial theme. Feels a bit short though.
Red Omen – Hymn of Valor 3:36
Me likey. I think you really captured the feeling of valor in this mix. I really enjoyed this and it always seems to capture my attention when I'm listening to this album. It just feels like it ends too abruptly. I was just getting into the horns and bam, they're gone. Could have used being a bit louder, except for that last 35 seconds, that's plenty loud :)
Ellywu2 – Frog's Intervention 3:43
I love the original mix you did a while back, and I love this one just as much. This is even more epic sounding as well, it really captures the feeling I got when I played Chrono Trigger, really awesome. Just one problem. It ends WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too abruptly. WAY WAY WAY to fast. Scary fast.
PLBenjaminZ – Denadoro Climb 2:31
This rocks, I really enjoyed this. Just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short.
Ellywu2 – The Masamune 4:09
This rocks, I listened to the beginning part about a dozen times when Compy Fox gave use a preview of it. Epic almost sounds like an underestimation. Frog's theme kicks butt, and so does this mix. I could use more violins though.
mv – Darkest Omen 3:41
This was probably my least favorite mix in this album, sorry to say. Maybe it is the source theme, but I just can't get into this song. I have it among some others of mv's mixes, and I certainly like those others more. The ending seems a bit abrupt as well, same as some other mixes in this album.
Sephfire – Confronting the Mystic 3:41
Woo, goose pimples. I love this, but it is just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaay too short!
Blake Perdue – Door to the End of Time 5:34
I like this, it really does have the End of Time vibe to it at the beginning. The mixture of themes with the End of Time vibe was awesome, it was sort of like everybody was reminiscing about their homes at this point. I really enjoyed this one, kudos.
SirRus – Manifest Destiny 2:34
Ah, the zeal theme. A lot of people really like this theme, but I am not as enthusiastic about it as them. Still, this was really good. I think the bass was just a bit too harsh in this one. I had to turn down the bass on my Klipsch 2.1 speakers before the windows blew out :). Was a bit short too.
Ellywu2, Pixietricks – Schala and the Queen 6:34
The schala theme has definitely gotten some attention among vgmixers. I liked this. I see it as sort of a tribute to the guys that made all this great music in the first place, so I don't mind the Japanese. Plus the singing is really good, very emotional, so only love there.
Some have complained of a 'karaoke' feel to the vocal parts, but I see it as an internal prayer or song by schala, a monologue of sorts, so therefore the music being softer during the vocal parts seems appropriate to me. Excellent overall.
Claado Shou – The Third Guru 2:17
This was alright, no real climax or emotion. Seemed more like an intermission piece to me. Good thing it was short or it would have seemed more like an orchestra/trance mix :)
Rellik – Beneath the Surface 3:07
I like Rellik's past stuff, and this is no different. I really enjoyed this. This did end a bit abruptly, though.
DarkeSword – The Rising 2:07
This was alright, it does feel like it leads into the next song a bit though. I can imagine Lavos' rising being ominous, and this gives that feeling perfectly. A bit short, but for this mix it seems appropriate.
DarkeSword – Crono's Dream 2:23
This is decent. It seemed a bit repetitive to me, and I didn't enjoy the dissonance as much as others have. Maybe it's because I haven't read the script, but as music without a script is was lacking.
Russell Cox – The Chrono Trigger 3:27
This was a bit slow going for me, but it was pretty good getting near the end. It actually had a bit of a music box or lullaby feel to it. I liked it.
Unknown – A Parting of Ways 4:18
Unknown is good, always good. This was excellent, I really enjoyed it. The ending was awesome.
RoeTaKa – The Last Stand 5:33
This is really good. I do get that feeling that a last stand is going down with the intro, like it's all or nothing. The last quarter was probably my favorite part of this mix. It ended a bit abruptly though.
Sleepy Emp – The New Beginning 2:54
Yaaaa, they won! Excellent intro. Like you last mix you make great use of those deep trumpets or horns (I'm not a musician so I can't tell, but it's one of them :)). This is kick butt stuff.
Reuben Kee, Pixietricks – To Far Away Times 3:52
It's the end? Dang. Well, this was a good ending. Personally, the choice to mix Japanese and English rubs me the wrong way. Someone else said that it seemed pretentious (he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder, not sure why), and I'd have to agree. I think someone was just trying to show off :). The Japanese seemed to just barge in uninvited. It was a shock at first to me. I guess one could see it as another tribute, but I don't know...
Overall, I say this was an excellent album and was fairly well done. Many of the songs should have definitely been longer, and too many of the songs had abrupt endings. From what I hear, there were time restrictions for at least some of the songs. Bad decision in my opinion. I think the remixers should have been given more flexibility to add that 'personal' touch to their songs to develop and expand the song they remixed a bit more. Also, I think some of the songs could have used a more orchestral feel to them, like with the violins for instance (I commented about this in some of the songs already). I also agree with others that some of these songs where a bit on the dry side, but I imagine trying to make all the songs fit with one concert hall was challenging considering the difference of bass levels in many of the songs (especially with Manifest Destiny).
One of the best albums on this site. Great job everybody, and thanks!
After listening through the entire album, I feel I must register on the forums and express my thanks to everyone involved in the project.
Thank you for such a wonderful Chrono Trigger collection -- this album rocks!
Your talents are truly amazing!
Jillian Aversa
01-05-2006, 06:32 PM
Reuben Kee, Pixietricks – To Far Away Times 3:52
It's the end? Dang. Well, this was a good ending. Personally, the choice to mix Japanese and English rubs me the wrong way. Someone else said that it seemed pretentious (he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder, not sure why), and I'd have to agree. I think someone was just trying to show off . The Japanese seemed to just barge in uninvited. It was a shock at first to me. I guess one could see it as another tribute, but I don't know...
I'm sorry you feel that way. The reason Claado Shou thought both Japanese and English would be appropriate is that it is a common occurrence in movie credits, which tend to feature a bilingual pop song. I assure you that it was not pretention on his part; he doesn't even know Japanese. Also, Evilhead did the translation and I sang it because we were asked to. Simple as that. It was meant as a tribute, yes, but moreso just because that's the way things are often done in the business. :P
Ice Dragon
01-05-2006, 06:53 PM
Well, I don't normally watch the ending credits of a movie so I don't normally hear the music at the end either.
If you wanted to do it the 'Japanese way', you'd have done most of it in Japanese and then had one word or phrase in English (Japanese pop seems to do that often). That's something I might have been able to understand :) As it is this is orchestral, not pop, music so I'm not sure how it fits logically.
To be clear, I meant no offense by my comments. I'm just a lowly listener is all :twisted: I think every person should be given honest and constructive criticism for the work they do, so I try to do my best in both regards.
DarkeSword
01-05-2006, 07:14 PM
DarkeSword – The Rising 2:07
This was alright, it does feel like it leads into the next song a bit though. I can imagine Lavos' rising being ominous, and this gives that feeling perfectly. A bit short, but for this mix it seems appropriate.
DarkeSword – Crono's Dream 2:23
This is decent. It seemed a bit repetitive to me, and I didn't enjoy the dissonance as much as others have. Maybe it's because I haven't read the script, but as music without a script is was lacking.
In my defense (;)), the project's main idea was 'movie score.' I wrote these tracks to underscore what was happening in the scenes I wrote for; I had the script open while I was composing these.
Doing something in the style of a movie score doesn't automatically mean 'Hollywood quality sounds;' it means accentuating what the audience sees with what the audience hears. That's not to say that movie scores can't or shouldn't be strong melodically, but the approach I took with these two tracks was different than the approach taken when writing standalone tracks.
Actually, it's one of the (very few) things that I don't like about this project; some of the songs try to stand on their own too much rather than strive to be integral with 'the movie;' the most serious offender being Blue Skies Over Guardia! In retrospect, it would have been a better idea to use something more akin to djpretzel's Jethro and Vash at the Fair (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01029/); if I was watching a CT movie and Blue Skies was playing the whole time that Crono and Marle were at the fair, I'd get sick of it.
In the context of the project's theme of 'movie score,' I think that The Rising and, in particular, Crono's Dream, are successful pieces, and I'm very proud of what I was able to accomplish as far as melding thematic material and invoking certain moods. I'm not an orchestral arranger (despite past arrangements I've done), which is why they're simple pieces, but I think that they're some of my best works in terms of realizing the original intent I composed them with.
herograw
01-05-2006, 08:18 PM
afk
Ice Dragon
01-05-2006, 08:27 PM
The idea is nice, to make a movie score, but it falls down when listened to for the sake of music. For instance, Lord of the Rings had great music and it did a masterful job of conveying emotions to the audience, but the soundtrack falls down when it comes to sitting at my computer and listening to it. Since the intended purpose was to make a movie score, then I can see why you and others made their songs the way they did, but it seems to me that this project would have had the worst of both worlds if it would have had more music like yours (this sounds bad, but let me finish).
A movie score with no movie is missing the part that makes the music make any sense. With no movie I don't get to watch any characters' mono/dialogues, and I don't get to see facial expressions or other body language.
A movie score with no movie doesn't give me 'stand-alone' songs that convey emotion and tell a story without words. It's like a soul with no body, almost lifeless. EDIT: Actually, there is one exception. Musicals do give stand-alone music :) Maybe the Chrono Symphonic movie is a musical?
Look for the
Bear necessities...
In fact, a movie score doesn't even try to tell a story, only convey the emotion of the setting or the characters in the story. Most of the time the music in movies is in the background, giving subtle hints to the audience about what is going on.
So in fact the criticism of your song(s) isn't so much a criticism of them but of the basic premise of this project. You might have done a spectacular job of making a movie score, but I'll never know with no movie :?
DarkeSword
01-05-2006, 08:49 PM
You can always read the script while listening. :wink:
Mouser X
01-05-2006, 09:13 PM
I noticed that none of the files in the torrent contain track numbers in the tags (MP3s or FLACs). Any particular reason for this? I was going to request that they include the track numbers when they release the "Special Edition" when I remembered that it would only be released in ISO format, and track numbers in the tags aren't really going to work in that regard... So, I was just wondering if some clarification on that could be provieded.
As for the album itself, I think it turned out great! Thanks a lot. Definatly "professional release" (like you'd see in a store and such) quality. However, an "Extended Mix Edition" would be awesome! Forget the restraints on track time made by the script! Remake (or extend, or whatever) the tracks to the length that the ReMixer feels is appropriate for the song. Of course, stick to the general idea of the whole project, but give each individual track the time/attention it deserves.
In saying that, what I mean is that I think the album turned out great. I'd just like to see some of the songs and themes expanded on, sort of like what has been mentioned in some of the earlier reviews.
Again, thanks for the great music. And, thanks in advance for clarification on the track numbers instance. Mouser X over and out.
OmegaMe
01-06-2006, 12:14 AM
Hey ho! Just thought I'd say I love the project... and I don't mind the soundtrack thing, 'cause I listen to movie soundtracks all the time. This makes really good music for doing homework while listening. Hehe, the singing caught me off guard though...
I love all the tracks on this, unlike in other past projects where I've just picked out the best songs. I'm not even that familiar with Chrono Trigger, but this is a great project. (Although I can't wait for project chaos either...)
Rockin' Awesome.
Red Omen
01-06-2006, 12:39 AM
Red Omen – Hymn of Valor 3:36
It just feels like it ends too abruptly. I was just getting into the horns and bam, they're gone.
I feel the same way. The reason why it's like that is because I was approaching deadline - and the deadline was the day I moved into college.
shh don't tell anyone
lokoluis15
01-06-2006, 12:40 AM
I registered on OCRemix just to encourage the makers of this projects and tell them that they did a great job. I enjoy the soundtrack very much and I have been following it for a couple months now, very excited about it.
I believe that all of the songs in this collection do justice to the CT songs that are remixed, and all proivide a range of interpretations from different mixers.
Although I enjoyed every track on this collection, I stand by some criticisms that some tracks are too short. Confronting the Mystic is one of my favorite tracks on this album, but it's short length makes the enjoyment quick and over with. A pseudo correction for this is to just put it twice in a row on my tracklist, ;). I highly encourage the mixers to do stand-alone versions of their songs. They sound great together and in the "movie" context, but some enhanced versions surely couldn't hurt.
Finally I must say that I absolutely loved the last song, To Far Away Times. Pixietricks has such a great voice and the piano arrangement is stunning. I don't know if it is allowed or not, but I would love to have a copy of the sheet music for the piano in that song. I cannot stop listening to it, you guys did an awesome job.
Congratulations to all the remixers and everyone involved, you all worked very hard and it is evident in the quality of the final product. Good Job!
Chocolate Supra
01-06-2006, 12:54 AM
I wish I were more musically inclined, I'd give a review that'd do the project some justice, but alas, film is more my passion and focus. Therefore, as a hopeful filmmaker who has always wanted to adapt CT into a movie, constantly dreaming of how the themes and music and images will all come together, let me say that this finished product is everything I'd ever hoped it would be and then some. I was afraid I'd be distracted by artistic liberties and synth-that-doesn't-sound-like-orchestra, but thank God, neither happened.
I purposely listened without reading the script or looking at track names, just hit "select all" and "enter." I can say the whole thing flows quite well- anyone who is familliar with Chrono Trigger can see the story unfolding as they listen, even with some of the rearrangements Claado made to the story (dude, having Magus finish Zeal- I can't believe I didn't think of that when trying to come up with my own version for a movie. ;) brilliance). Fantastic stuff. Heck, I joined OCR for the sole purpose of patting everyone on the back.
Big thanks to all who contributed and worked. SO much that is part of my life was influenced by other people, but Chrono Trigger and the love of its story, characters, and music has always been one of the few things that was entirely me. CT means a lot to me, and I may go as far as to say this was as much a realization of a dream to me as it was to y'all. I'll be listening to this for a very, very long time.
BTW, to Reuben Kee and pixietricks- "To Far Away Times" made me cry. Made me feel like I was saying goodbye to a best friend. Hope you're happy, you two. ;)
Eon_Blue
01-06-2006, 12:57 AM
Why is there written "Well, it's my turn to go on a journey!" at the bottom right hand corner of the album art?
Hah, someone found it. I didn't expect too many people to examine it that closely. Just a little bit of trivia for the project. You can't see it at all on a printed copy - or at least I couldn't...
Red Omen
01-06-2006, 01:01 AM
Why is there written "Well, it's my turn to go on a journey!" at the bottom right hand corner of the album art?
Hah, someone found it. I didn't expect too many people to examine it that closely. Just a little bit of trivia for the project. You can't see it at all on a printed copy - or at least I couldn't...
You put that there? That's awesome!
See, in the "speedy" ending, you get to meet all the developers. When you talk to Yasunori Mitsuda, who looks like Toma, that's what he says. Then he walks out the door and disappears.
Eon_Blue
01-06-2006, 01:04 AM
Why is there written "Well, it's my turn to go on a journey!" at the bottom right hand corner of the album art?
Hah, someone found it. I didn't expect too many people to examine it that closely. Just a little bit of trivia for the project. You can't see it at all on a printed copy - or at least I couldn't...
You put that there? That's awesome!
See, in the "speedy" ending, you get to meet all the developers. When you talk to Yasunori Mitsuda, who looks like Toma, that's what he says. Then he walks out the door and disappears.
Yeah, more of a tribute to Mitsuda than anything else. Not like the album already isn't...
Looking at it now, it's pretty easy to spot... should have made it dimmer.
I was here from the early beginnings of this project, I just chose not to post around the forums...I must say it's a great accomplishment. Beautiful pieces are in this project. Bravo to all of the remixers who took part in it. :D
Zeality
01-06-2006, 02:05 AM
Okay, it looks like "Zonk" isn't going to post my news at Slashdot. He's running the game section like a blog, posting everything himself.
son of a bitch bastard-dick cockblasting shitcock asser of a fuckcrack lovestick fagraper
How do we proceed?
Compyfox
01-06-2006, 02:39 AM
Well... leave it be, Zeality. Leave it be. It'll get on there eventually... As did the Doom project. We have a Wiki, we were posted on Digg.com, some other random torrent trackers, hell even on joystix. What else do you want?
I noticed that none of the files in the torrent contain track numbers in the tags (MP3s or FLACs). Any particular reason for this? I was going to request that they include the track numbers when they release the "Special Edition" when I remembered that it would only be released in ISO format, and track numbers in the tags aren't really going to work in that regard... So, I was just wondering if some clarification on that could be provieded.
Any reason why I should have inserted tracknumbers? Arent't the tags already enough? I tagged those files (mp3) with a tool called UltraTracker. If I had done this by hand, it would have taken me hours. The FLACs were done with FLAC frontend and tagged by hand in Winamp. Took me a while already.
And I don't see the "need" for using tracknumbers if the filenames already have this already, too.
As for the album itself, I think it turned out great! Thanks a lot. Definatly "professional release" (like you'd see in a store and such) quality. However, an "Extended Mix Edition" would be awesome! Forget the restraints on track time made by the script! Remake (or extend, or whatever) the tracks to the length that the ReMixer feels is appropriate for the song. Of course, stick to the general idea of the whole project, but give each individual track the time/attention it deserves.
There won't be "extended tracks" of this album. The music was written over a year ago and doing something like this would take another half year to push out a "Special Edition". Sorry to say that.
sephfire
01-06-2006, 04:04 AM
The idea is nice, to make a movie score, but it falls down when listened to for the sake of music. For instance, Lord of the Rings had great music and it did a masterful job of conveying emotions to the audience, but the soundtrack falls down when it comes to sitting at my computer and listening to it. Since the intended purpose was to make a movie score, then I can see why you and others made their songs the way they did, but it seems to me that this project would have had the worst of both worlds if it would have had more music like yours (this sounds bad, but let me finish).
A movie score with no movie is missing the part that makes the music make any sense. With no movie I don't get to watch any characters' mono/dialogues, and I don't get to see facial expressions or other body language.
A movie score with no movie doesn't give me 'stand-alone' songs that convey emotion and tell a story without words. It's like a soul with no body, almost lifeless. EDIT: Actually, there is one exception. Musicals do give stand-alone music :) Maybe the Chrono Symphonic movie is a musical?
Look for the
Bear necessities...
In fact, a movie score doesn't even try to tell a story, only convey the emotion of the setting or the characters in the story. Most of the time the music in movies is in the background, giving subtle hints to the audience about what is going on.
So in fact the criticism of your song(s) isn't so much a criticism of them but of the basic premise of this project. You might have done a spectacular job of making a movie score, but I'll never know with no movie :?
OCReMix has an enormous Chrono Trigger section. Well over 60 tracks have been composed remixing the music from this game (and there's a lot of quality music to be found in there, let me assure you). This project has a more defined purpose than to just "make 25 more remixes but all orchestral." The "film score" organization and arrangment of this album is what makes it so unique.
And you don't have to see the movie to appreciate the dynamics of this album. Listen to it all the way through. If you know the game's story, you can follow the storyline placement just by hearing the music. The dynamics of the album as a whole reflect the dynamics of the Chrono Trigger story itself. So long as you know the game, you can follow the soundtrack.
Chrono Symphonic is a single united composition, not just a collection of many tracks. This is reflected in Claado's script and in Compy's hard production work to make each individual track flow together. This was the goal from the very beginning.
Ice Dragon
01-06-2006, 04:53 AM
OCReMix has an enormous Chrono Trigger section. Well over 60 tracks have been composed remixing the music from this game (and there's a lot of quality music to be found in there, let me assure you). This project has a more defined purpose than to just "make 25 more remixes but all orchestral." The "film score" organization and arrangment of this album is what makes it so unique.
And you don't have to see the movie to appreciate the dynamics of this album. Listen to it all the way through. If you know the game's story, you can follow the storyline placement just by hearing the music. The dynamics of the album as a whole reflect the dynamics of the Chrono Trigger story itself. So long as you know the game, you can follow the soundtrack.
Chrono Symphonic is a single united composition, not just a collection of many tracks. This is reflected in Claado's script and in Compy's hard production work to make each individual track flow together. This was the goal from the very beginning.
I played through Chrono Trigger a few times and can remember much of the storyline, and I would agree that the music in this album does flow well. Thanks to the stand-alone remixes.
I liked The Rising and think it had a distinctly different feel compared to Crono's Dream. If this were a 'true' movie soundtrack than I imagine that the album would be rather boring, with only a handful of 'stand-alone' songs to grab my attention. The rest would be background music like Crono's Dream. Same with the Lord of the Rings soundtrack.
So long as you know the game, you can follow the soundtrack.
This is important. If there were less 'stand-alone' songs in this album and people didn't have a game to visualize the story, then I imagine this album would have gotten fewer positive reviews. People don't mind background music (I certainly don't), but it certainly doesn't get the kind of attention 'foreground' music gets. And background music certainly can't tell a story.
I beg to differ on your point about Chrono Symphonic not being 'just a collection of many tracks'. I find that many of the songs could easily stand alone and get good reviews by themselves. How many of the songs weren't made specifically for this album? I can pick out at least 3 that I know of. Two weren't all the different from the originals. I'd dare to describe Chrono Symphonic as a collection of very well done, stand-alone songs that also flow well together to form a story, with some background music as lead-ins to other stand-alone songs. I'd say that Relics of the Chozo more closely follows your description of CS (but not completely) in being a single united composition, even if artificially in some parts, by the fade-in to each successive track in the album. Sure, RotC also had its share of background music as well, but I enjoyed (some of) it as well.
I'd say that a truely single united composition would have had one source of sound fonts/samples and more coordination between the composers to plan volume levels, bass levels, etc. to truely unite the album (and subsequently make Compy Fox's life a bit easier). For instance, you would have agreed to a set amount of violinists, pianists, trumpet players, etc. and utilised them accordingly in a more united fashion. I suppose this is a bit anal retentive, but it would be quite united.
SirRus
01-06-2006, 06:59 AM
I'd say that a truely single united composition would have had one source of sound fonts/samples and more coordination between the composers to plan volume levels, bass levels, etc. to truely unite the album (and subsequently make Compy Fox's life a bit easier). For instance, you would have agreed to a set amount of violinists, pianists, trumpet players, etc. and utilised them accordingly in a more united fashion. I suppose this is a bit anal retentive, but it would be quite united.
I believe at first we were being limited to using the same free soundfonts like squidfont, cadenzza, etc. Then we all realized that only Bliz and Unknown can make free orchestral soundfonts sound like the shit. So we got to use whatever OMG$$$ samples we wanted. I am still confused about Unknowns use of guitar in his track, I think that might have been overboard or something.
sephfire
01-06-2006, 07:32 AM
I played through Chrono Trigger a few times and can remember much of the storyline, and I would agree that the music in this album does flow well. Thanks to the stand-alone remixes.
I liked The Rising and think it had a distinctly different feel compared to Crono's Dream. If this were a 'true' movie soundtrack than I imagine that the album would be rather boring, with only a handful of 'stand-alone' songs to grab my attention. The rest would be background music like Crono's Dream. Same with the Lord of the Rings soundtrack.
So long as you know the game, you can follow the soundtrack.
This is important. If there were less 'stand-alone' songs in this album and people didn't have a game to visualize the story, then I imagine this album would have gotten fewer positive reviews. People don't mind background music (I certainly don't), but it certainly doesn't get the kind of attention 'foreground' music gets. And background music certainly can't tell a story.
I beg to differ on your point about Chrono Symphonic not being 'just a collection of many tracks'. I find that many of the songs could easily stand alone and get good reviews by themselves. How many of the songs weren't made specifically for this album? I can pick out at least 3 that I know of. Two weren't all the different from the originals. I'd dare to describe Chrono Symphonic as a collection of very well done, stand-alone songs that also flow well together to form a story, with some background music as lead-ins to other stand-alone songs. I'd say that Relics of the Chozo more closely follows your description of CS (but not completely) in being a single united composition, even if artificially in some parts, by the fade-in to each successive track in the album. Sure, RotC also had its share of background music as well, but I enjoyed (some of) it as well.
I'm not saying that the tracks can't stand alone independent from the whole. That's obviously untrue. As you said, several of the tracks were composed before the project began. I'm saying that Chrono Symphonic (by design) meshes into a single composition in a way that no other project has until now (though others come very close).
I'd say that a truely single united composition would have had one source of sound fonts/samples and more coordination between the composers to plan volume levels, bass levels, etc. to truely unite the album (and subsequently make Compy Fox's life a bit easier). For instance, you would have agreed to a set amount of violinists, pianists, trumpet players, etc. and utilised them accordingly in a more united fashion. I suppose this is a bit anal retentive, but it would be quite united.
I agree with that. However, with everyone using different software and resources, it would be incredibly difficult to have EVERYONE use the same samples/etc and master settings without resorting to freeware. Granted, Unknown has proven that free stuff can work wonders, but not all of us have mastered this technique. There are lots of other ways that such unity and coordination could have been accomplished, but most of them would have involved money or an incredible sacrifice of time to achieve. I think things were organized efficiently given our resources.
Also, the entertainment value of film soundtracks is rather objective. I've been listening to the soundtracks from "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "The Island" ever since I bought them without succumbing to boredom. Film soundtracks don't necessarily have to limit themselves to simple "background music."
aarolye
01-06-2006, 07:57 AM
Great job! I bet everyone's said this so many times, but I wanted to say it too. :P
I have been going to this site ever since 6 years ago when I accidently discovered it. Luckily, I finally remembered the name of the site and found it again.
I was so awed when I heard the Symphonic music because everyone's styles are so diverse yet they made this orchestra-like. I felt the same intensity as Lord of the Rings music made me feel and the unpredictable heart-stopping emotions I got from playing Clock Tower for the first time (since I am the typical girl and stopped playing after 5 minutes of it ^^).
Overall, the music highly surpasses the average Square RPG. I wish this CD was used as the music of FF Advent Children.
Well, I'll stop babbling now! Thanks for great compositions and broadening my music horizon~ :D
sephfire
01-06-2006, 08:21 AM
I believe at first we were being limited to using the same free soundfonts like squidfont, cadenzza, etc. Then we all realized that only Bliz and Unknown can make free orchestral soundfonts sound like the shit. So we got to use whatever OMG$$$ samples we wanted.
Yeah. I envy those guys' ability in that area. They take the free stuff and work miracles. I have the ability to consistently make Reason's decent orkester library sound like crap spewing from a marching band tuba at haltime. :lol:
Unknown needs to create a tutorial or something explaining how he does that. I'd pay money. Seriously.
DragonAvenger
01-06-2006, 02:10 PM
The idea is nice, to make a movie score, but it falls down when listened to for the sake of music. For instance, Lord of the Rings had great music and it did a masterful job of conveying emotions to the audience, but the soundtrack falls down when it comes to sitting at my computer and listening to it. Since the intended purpose was to make a movie score, then I can see why you and others made their songs the way they did, but it seems to me that this project would have had the worst of both worlds if it would have had more music like yours (this sounds bad, but let me finish).
A movie score with no movie is missing the part that makes the music make any sense. With no movie I don't get to watch any characters' mono/dialogues, and I don't get to see facial expressions or other body language.
A movie score with no movie doesn't give me 'stand-alone' songs that convey emotion and tell a story without words. It's like a soul with no body, almost lifeless. EDIT: Actually, there is one exception. Musicals do give stand-alone music :) Maybe the Chrono Symphonic movie is a musical?
Look for the
Bear necessities...
In fact, a movie score doesn't even try to tell a story, only convey the emotion of the setting or the characters in the story. Most of the time the music in movies is in the background, giving subtle hints to the audience about what is going on.
So in fact the criticism of your song(s) isn't so much a criticism of them but of the basic premise of this project. You might have done a spectacular job of making a movie score, but I'll never know with no movie :?
You can't imagine what the movie would be like by reading the script? I think doing that acheives an even greater level to CS since while there is a basic plot, you can think of the details as you listen, and make it fit your style. Basically, you can make the movie perfect for you.
I actually have yet to read the script, but I can still feel the ideas for the scenes and how they would play out.
DarkeSword
01-06-2006, 02:19 PM
I believe at first we were being limited to using the same free soundfonts like squidfont, cadenzza, etc. Then we all realized that only Bliz and Unknown can make free orchestral soundfonts sound like the shit. So we got to use whatever OMG$$$ samples we wanted.
Yeah. I envy those guys' ability in that area. They take the free stuff and work miracles. I have the ability to consistently make Reason's decent orkester library sound like crap spewing from a marching band tuba at haltime. :lol:
Unknown needs to create a tutorial or something explaining how he does that. I'd pay money. Seriously.
It's not that difficult; just use the right amounts of reverb and stereo separation, and pay attention to velocities. Write realistic rhythms, and know the limitations of your sounds. You need to treat a violin sample as a violin sample, not a real violin, and understand its limitations. That's how I approach sequencing any 'real' instrument, and it's what I did when I wrote my tracks for this project.
sephfire
01-06-2006, 03:08 PM
I believe at first we were being limited to using the same free soundfonts like squidfont, cadenzza, etc. Then we all realized that only Bliz and Unknown can make free orchestral soundfonts sound like the shit. So we got to use whatever OMG$$$ samples we wanted.
Yeah. I envy those guys' ability in that area. They take the free stuff and work miracles. I have the ability to consistently make Reason's decent orkester library sound like crap spewing from a marching band tuba at haltime. :lol:
Unknown needs to create a tutorial or something explaining how he does that. I'd pay money. Seriously.
It's not that difficult; just use the right amounts of reverb and stereo separation, and pay attention to velocities. Write realistic rhythms, and know the limitations of your sounds. You need to treat a violin sample as a violin sample, not a real violin, and understand its limitations. That's how I approach sequencing any 'real' instrument, and it's what I did when I wrote my tracks for this project.
That makes sense. I'll keep that approach in mind for the future.
PLBenjaminZ
01-06-2006, 07:40 PM
I believe at first we were being limited to using the same free soundfonts like squidfont, cadenzza, etc. Then we all realized that only Bliz and Unknown can make free orchestral soundfonts sound like the shit. So we got to use whatever OMG$$$ samples we wanted.
Yeah. I envy those guys' ability in that area. They take the free stuff and work miracles. I have the ability to consistently make Reason's decent orkester library sound like crap spewing from a marching band tuba at haltime. :lol:
As far as I'm concerned.... <_< *hides* >_> ...everything I used was free :roll: But then again I guess my stuff isn't the shit lol... I wish I had some of the samples some of you guys used. That would've greatly reduced my limitations, I don't know how many times I told myself "damnit I can't get the right sound!" :oops: I say we all should've used only Edirol Orchestral because that's the only thing I used ;););););););) jk
Overall, the music highly surpasses the average Square RPG. I wish this CD was used as the music of FF Advent Children.
I thought the music in FF Advent Children was great(well at least the last battle song, that had me in tears how incredibly cool it was)!
...and to the people suggesting we should've taken off the time restrictions to the music because there's no actual movie, I already tried this argument about a year ago (it's somewhere in this thread) and I was brought down horribly by a counter argument :roll: (something along the lines of making it funner because it was more of a challenge to make those restrictions). Now that I look back, I think it's better this way anyway; I don't think I'd want to listen to 4 CD's of really long orchestral arrangements... just my opinion :wink: The only downside is that some of the content feels too short now. :(
I like smiley's. It says so in my sig.
ps:Unknown needs to create a tutorial or something explaining how he does that. I'd pay money. Seriously.u maen rych ppl gib mee moneh soo i ken goh bai beter sampels nau~ :roll: jk
...or maybe i need a job :P
Sleepy Emp
01-06-2006, 11:38 PM
I used free samples, too. Spend an hour rummaging through Hammersound and SF2Midi and you'd be surprised what you will find.
SirRus
01-07-2006, 01:49 AM
I used free samples, too. Spend an hour rummaging through Hammersound and SF2Midi and you'd be surprised what you will find.
Yeah uhh "The New Beginning" is freaking sweet. Kudos man.
Tyler Heath
01-07-2006, 02:55 AM
Unknown needs to create a tutorial or something explaining how he does that. I'd pay money. Seriously.
hahahahah
guys
I'm not nearly as good at this as you seem to think. I've just been using those samples for about as long as I've been writing orchestral music - you learn what sounds good.
hence, I write in like, one style. (this one)
Flamewave
01-07-2006, 03:33 AM
Very nice work, all of you. Absolutely enjoyed it. :D
I agree! Best soundtrack EVER made, especially The Masamune was great!
But I hope that SquareEnix don't do the same 'trick' as they did with CR. That was a real dissapointment...
:(
Eon_Blue
01-07-2006, 03:32 PM
I agree! Best soundtrack EVER made, especially The Masamune was great!
But I hope that SquareEnix don't do the same 'trick' as they did with CR. That was a real dissapointment...
:(
What trick? It's already out - not a whole lot they can do about containing it now.
Aurora Firestorm
01-07-2006, 11:39 PM
Even though RoeTaka hasn't appeared in here yet, I'd still like to ask him why he decided to put in those interrupting, out-of-place drum riffs at about 3:18 and 3:50 of The Last Stand. He completely stops the music for a moment and disrupts the flow of everything twice, which doesn't match with an epic battle, to me. That was pretty much the biggest beef I had with the music, aside from The Third Guru as a track. I was expecting something more grandiose for a final battle as well, like huge epic fantasy orchestral stuff, so I kept waiting for the orchestra to really flare...but it never did. But that doesn't reall bug me as much as the random stops in the song.
On to my randomness. Cheers to Rellik for the most awesome rendition of Undersea Palace ever. That chorus section at 2:03 just rocks my world. It's very appropriately eerie.
A Parting of Ways was the most brilliantly original use of Magus' Theme...I didn't know it could be put into so many forms in a single song and still be awesome. Also kudos to the mysterious little section around 2:32. The little high-pitched trail-off into the violins has to be my favorite section of the song. It's the little things in life, I tell you.
I still fail to see where Singing Mountain is in Revelation of Fire. And, Wings that Cross Time in The Third Guru. Slightly disappointed over the former.
At first, Pixietricks' singing jumped out at me a lot, but then the song grew on me and took its spot as my favorite. I actually like how clear her singing is. And, I love the Japanese and English together -- I don't think it's pretentious at all, and it's a neat twist that I didn't expect.
And speaking of Pixie's songs, I'm glad the orchestra backdrop didn't make it into To Far Away Times. It's better as it is now.
Also, where did "The Epoch" and "Zeal Ice" go to? I know Magus' Redemption became A Parting of Ways, and I assume Darkened Skies became The Rising, but those two seemed to have disappeared, replaced by The Third Guru and Beneath the Surface. Were they just deleted? Zeal Ice, I was really looking forward to, and it's even a WIP on the old page. It had the Zeal Palace music (Zeal evil theme) on it, which I was really hoping would show up clearly on the album.
herograw
01-08-2006, 02:39 AM
These tracks are YAWN-TASTIC
Compyfox
01-08-2006, 04:05 AM
Care to elaborate or are you one of those in the "Door to the End of Time" feedback thread who mentions that and vanishes.
D.Radium
01-08-2006, 04:12 AM
Well since Claado hasn't responded to my PM regarding the matter here's quasi-feedback on the project.
Since I was rather awestruck at the music of this arrangement I went out and made some more art for it, just a wallpaper. (I'm curious btw, I noticed this while colouring, why does Magus have such a white skin tone compared to his family?)
Anyway, I don't know why, but listening to the orchestral version make me think of some scenes that were lacking a little more emotional premise in CT (although if overdone it ends up like Xenosaga where people moan about too many cutscenes :lol:), one being Magus and his rather dark past. Soo.. just an impossible oneshot of his one loved one in this world before she died. If this was a movie or something I don't know if Schala would actually realize that Prophet was actually her brother or not, but anyway I took off his hat and lookie who's inside ^^ Poor girl.. her mother's insane and tries to kill her, Dalton pretends she's his bitch, her brother gets dimensionally MIA, and after all that she dies. I think she could use that hug :<
In an earlier design phase I was debating putting a scene with her injured lying against the wall with a ghostly Magus with her right as the temple was collapsing but I figured that might be overdoing it a bit.
Click for Preview (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/TrinityFactor/Chrono_Symphonic-SatC-1600x1200.jpg)
Photobucket won't hold the full 1600x1200 image so I've stuck an archived version for download on filefront, tell me if it doesn't work.
Wallpaper Pack (2.49mb) (http://files.filefront.com/ChronoSymphonic_wppackrar/;4580207;;/fileinfo.html) (included are fullsize jpg and png versions, winrar archive at highest compression)
If it's worthy enough I hoped the project coordinator could stick it in the torrent but whatever. I spent too many sleepless nights on this ><
Comments n crits and stuff welcome.
DarkeSword
01-08-2006, 04:35 AM
If it's worthy enough I hoped the project coordinator could stick it in the torrent but whatever.
While it's nice, it really doesn't have anything to do with Chrono Symphonic. It's really just run-of-the-mill CT fanart. So no, I don't see this going into the torrent.
Tsukou
01-08-2006, 05:42 AM
I went through a few interesting tracks, and I must give you guys props on this. The main thing that pulls me in is when you put this in your main page.
Basically, this is a project aimed at re-imagining Chrono Trigger the way it was imagined in its creators’ heads…a tale of love, and triumph, and struggling for the good of others while leaving your own inhibitions and fears behind. It’s the tale you’ve waited forever to hear…and now, you’re able to hear it.
The spirit that you ocrs carry I feel needs to be more spread throughout the world, and I congratulate you on that.
Fusilliban
01-08-2006, 05:55 AM
I've been listening to this for a couple of days, as a 25-track playlist. I'm pretty damn pleased by this. The tracks meld together nicely (most of the time) and a lot of these remixes make me enjoy, again, tracks that I've become sick of, listening to them way too much out of love. (Side note: I can't play Chrono Trigger any more. I've done so too many times, and I've memorized it.) This stuff is solid and I like it. That said, I find it easier to say what I don't like than what I do.
Inciting Incident: Holy crap, dude, this is awesome. Seriously. Here's a theme I've heard way, way too many times, that's had all the life stripped out of it, and you make me like it again. Thank you. The pounding drums at 1:20-2:27 are a particularly nice touch.
Morning Sunlight: A nice piece, but I find it overall unremarkable. It has what I think is the right sense of emotion.
Blue Skies Over Guardia: Heard it before. Love it. I think I like it better without the claps, but possibly over time I'll change this. My girlfriend (who has a more keen musical ear than I do) tells me that there's a drum sound from 1:33-2:19 that my ear can't really hear well without dropping all but the 1k band on my Winamp equalizer.
To Lands Unknown: The tail end of this song reminds me a lot of some of the music from Warcraft II, though the audio samples are notably better. But really, it's a short piece, and it feels transitionary, so it's hard to say much about it. Given the movie-soundtrack goal of the album, this is probably a good sign.
Darkness Dueling: Here's another piece I've heard too many times, with new life breathed into it. Thanks. I'm not sure what the point behind the break at 1:07 is. I sort of feel as though the track would have been better if it didn't take that moment to pause - if it just blew through, as it were.
Lucca's Arrival: Nicely epic. A decent listen. Not something I'd be likely to pull out and listen to again as a standalone, but that's not the point of this project.
Revelation of Fire: Spekkosaurus pretty well owned Trial. Zircon did so more recently. Compared to those two... I just can't enjoy any rendition. This prevents me from having any useful comments.
Hymn of Fire: This song has a good solid slow build, which I'm generally a sucker for. It's well put together (though some of the strings strongly remind me of Lords of the Realm 2 - same sample set maybe?). The end seems grafted on. Like, there's a pretty poor transition between what I'm hearing at 2:50 and 2:53. The actual end of the track is also a little abrupt, as has already been mentioned.
Frog's Intervention: Here's another slow build. It's worth it. 1:52 starts a section that begins 'really nice' and builds rather quickly to 'gorgeous.' The end is stupidly abrupt, including the final fade, which is too fast. (At first I wondered if I had a bad file.) All around a good piece.
Denadoro Climb: This is a nice rendition of Wind Scene. It's appropriately cinematic, which I think is tricky to do with the original. I have no idea why this is here in the listing though - the original doesn't really match any of the script that I see, or anything. Still, a fine job by the remixer here.
The Masamune: More epic Frog stuff from ellywu2. Similar to the other piece, but that's not a complaint.
Black Omen: At the moment, this is my favorite piece on the entire album. It's gotten panned by a couple people for being really similar to the original, but it sounds good and that's what I value most. 0:25-0:29 - this is a straight rip from the beginning of FF6's Airship theme. It fits well, except for the part where it jars me as I say to myself "wait, wrong game." Anyhow, I love all over this track as a standalone piece and plan to give it plenty of airplay - but I have no idea why it's in the middle of the album or the script.
Confronting the Mystic: This is not the Magus remix I am looking for. (The Magus mix I'm looking for has a bad ass brass section.) That said, this piece is still pretty fantastic and I think I can classify myself as a sephire fan now. The opening needs work - it only plays two or three notes, when a low tour through the first few bars of Magus proper would (I think) serve a lot better.
Door to the End of Time: This is bad movie soundtrack, it's way too busy. It's a fine song to listen to, though. It's a pretty impressive medley, and it flows surprisingly well - I really wouldn't think you could blend the parts together as well as they have been. The bit at 3:40 reminds me of something, and if I could remember what it was...
Manifest Destiny: This is gorgeous. The string lead really makes the track - good call on using it. This is another track I'd gotten burned out on, and like again. It's very busy and full of wonder, and fits the mood the script calls for perfectly. I think the end would be better served by a slow fade out than the wind-down it has.
Schala and the Queen: Oh dear. It's Schala's theme. I sort of have this vision of Claado et al. thinking of all the different people that would want to cover Schala, and only wanting one track, then making up for it by making that track six and a half minutes long and then giving it to two people. I don't know if that's really what happened, but whatever decision was made, it was a good one. The instrumentals are really solid, and the vocal work is the best on the album. Overall the piece has a nicely operatic quality that I really enjoy. This song is not easy to listen to, but it is very good. The end is really nice - not what I'm expecting, but good stuff with the horns. Again - burned out on the melody, new life breathed into it by the Chrono Symphonic team. Hurrah!
The Third Guru: I'm not really impressed with this. The only thing that really stands out is the measure-marking bass/cello beat, which is Too Much, in that it wants to be a foghorn when it grows up. With the bass turned down this is a nice track to listen to - and who doesn't love 5/8? Not a standout track, but that's okay, it's supposed to be a transitional piece. The last couple of seconds sound like a tip o' the hat to Wutai.
Beneath the Surface: This is a really interesting and different take on Undersea Palace. I like it a lot but can't entirely explain why. The end is missing some key percussion (wooden block? tambourine hit? not sure exactly how to describe either of them) from the original and I feel that gives it an incomplete sound.
The Rising: zomg, leitmotif. Good transitional piece. Not so much fun to listen to on its own, but a really well put together track nonetheless.
Crono's Dream: I swear, I can almost hear the crappy seagull synth in the background. It's like my SNES is calling to me. And then it proceeds to creep me out. Again - not a good standalone piece, but excellent soundtrack work, especially from the scene description I've seen.
The Chrono Trigger: This song is kinda... schlocky. I suppose that means it's good stuff from a soundtrack point of view, and it probably has all kinds of technical things going for it, but... I don't like it.
A Parting of Ways: Interesting take on Magus. I was neutral on it until I read the part of the movie it's supposed to accompany, now I think it's fine work. I'll have to think on this piece more before my opinion solidifies, but I like it.
The Last Stand: I'm pretty impressed that you can roll up all the various battle themes from CT into this little ball of cool. Some of the transitions are a little rough, but overall it hangs together pretty well. The end is... anticlimactic.
The New Beginning: I call shenanigans on this whole "Chrono Cross" thing. The Guardia Millenial Fair part is really fantastic, and considering the other versions of Millenial Fair it has to stand up against (Blue Skies, Jethro and Vash, the Brink of Time cut) that's no mean feat. I very much get a movie-montage-goodbye feel as I listen to this piece, so good stuff there. The end sort of takes me by surprise - if this is really supposed to be the last piece before credits, a longer roll-out might serve better there.
To Far Away Times: It's easy to evoke emotion with this piece if you don't fuck it up. That said, I think doing it right is really hard. Doing it right in piano *and* vocals at the same time is tricky, but it's been done. The vocal work feels a little grafted on in places - it doesn't complement the music as well as most of the vocal work earlier on the album. That said, from what I've read, the vocal stuff was in fact added on, so the fact that it only feels that way in a couple places is probably a really good sign. I'd be interested to hear an instrumental version - is there one available? I sort of wish this song were longer, but I think that what I really wish is for To Far Away Times (and hence the game/album) to not be over already.
This is good stuff, guys. Thanks for taking the time to put this piece together, for coming up with it in the first place... Claado, the script overview I've seen does a decent job of condensing the relatively complex plot of CT into something you could screen in two hours, and kudos to you for being insane enough to start this project in the first place.
Ichitootah
01-08-2006, 06:18 AM
Just want to compliment sephire on the first track, which is downright incredible. The other stuff is nice too, but Inciting Incident just really grabbed me. Wow.
PLBenjaminZ
01-08-2006, 07:04 AM
Denadoro Climb: This is a nice rendition of Wind Scene. It's appropriately cinematic, which I think is tricky to do with the original. I have no idea why this is here in the listing though - the original doesn't really match any of the script that I see, or anything. Still, a fine job by the remixer here.
Claado told me my scene was just background music for a scale up a mountain anyway, and that the actual scenes would involve "battle music" and dialogue with pauses, so I just took a track I liked that matched a.... big mountain-like scene and arranged it. I would've arranged Underground Sewer as that is Denadoro Mountain's music, but as I said in an earlier post, I already remixed that song just before collaborating with this project and I didn't feel like re-arranging it again. I felt that Wind Scene was appropriate anyway, and I liked that song... :roll:
Even though RoeTaka hasn't appeared in here yet, I'd still like to ask him why he decided to put in those interrupting, out-of-place drum riffs at about 3:18 and 3:50 of The Last Stand. He completely stops the music for a moment and disrupts the flow of everything twice, which doesn't match with an epic battle, to me. That was pretty much the biggest beef I had with the music, aside from The Third Guru as a track. I was expecting something more grandiose for a final battle as well, like huge epic fantasy orchestral stuff, so I kept waiting for the orchestra to really flare...but it never did. But that doesn't reall bug me as much as the random stops in the song.
The stops, if you weren't smart enough to have figured it out by now (after reading all these posts about how the music generally fits the script), are done to reflect certain pauses in the script. I know my version of the Final Battle also has two pauses in it (well the second pause is more like a mood change, but still)...
These tracks are YAWN-TASTICI'm sorry you feel that way...
sephfire
01-08-2006, 07:29 AM
Just want to compliment sephire on the first track, which is downright incredible. The other stuff is nice too, but Inciting Incident just really grabbed me. Wow.
Thank you. :)
Antelucan
01-08-2006, 04:15 PM
You know, I think it's funny how Person 1 loves track A but hates track B, Person 2 dislikes track A but loves track C, while Person 3 doesn't really care for track C but has a thing for track B.
The great thing about Chrono Symphonic seems to be you are guaranteed to love something about it, even if you dislike something else.
And then there are those of us who are simply in awe at the entire thing.
boojay
01-08-2006, 10:08 PM
bravo guys. This project has truly brought a tear to my eye. Awesome, AWESOME work!
nostalgic anticipation as I download Chrono Symphonic
Subz1987
01-09-2006, 05:21 AM
awesome! i love it, and it was worth the wait.
Hagure_Metal
01-09-2006, 07:33 PM
Hi all, I'm a newbie on this, so If there is anything wrong in what I'm gonna say... I apologize.
I haven't seen any URLs for the direct download of the soundtrack... so I offer a subdomain to host the whole soundtrack (in a single file) on it.
What do you people think? If anyone is interested please send me a private message ...or it would be ok to reply in this thread.
Thanks for reading,
- Hagure_Metal.
Compyfox
01-09-2006, 07:47 PM
Why would you do that if there's a torrent pack available that gives you pretty high download rates? Your "full pack" would also differ from the packs "we" offered. I don't see a reason in that to be honest.
Hagure_Metal
01-09-2006, 07:53 PM
Thanks for the replying.
Well, of course my pack would be nothing if it's not official, I mean, if you don't link it in the official website.
Respect to torrents, there's many people like me who doesn't use it, so it would be bad to download bittorrent only to download the soundtrack.
But well, that's the only thing why I've offered that. Anyways, if you don't want to accept the request, it would be fine.
greetings.
Jillian Aversa
01-09-2006, 10:13 PM
Hehe, where are you from, Hagure?
You have... how do I say... cute manner of speaking. Greetings. :D
DarkeSword
01-09-2006, 10:52 PM
Hi all, I'm a newbie on this, so If there is anything wrong in what I'm gonna say... I apologize.
I haven't seen any URLs for the direct download of the soundtrack... so I offer a subdomain to host the whole soundtrack (in a single file) on it.
What do you people think? If anyone is interested please send me a private message ...or it would be ok to reply in this thread.
Thanks for reading,
- Hagure_Metal.
There are direct links on the website for you to download the MP3s one-by-one.
heh, my "Author's Comment" and bio were written by someone else, without anyone asking me. maybe it'd be better just to remove the link? or clarify that it isn't me writing? I know that you guys gave me plenty of warning in regards to writing one of those things, and it's totally my fault that I didn't (I never really had time, but I'll still try to get around to it), but I would have at least appreciated it if you would have run this ghost written version by me, since it contains a few things that aren't true.
also, my arrangement doesn't have any of the Battle With Magus (as far as I know?) - just Marle's theme, the main battle theme, and a small hint of the Lavos theme.
I PMd Claudo about this and it still hasn't been changed. Anyone else I should talk to?
Liontamer
01-09-2006, 11:14 PM
heh, my "Author's Comment" and bio were written by someone else, without anyone asking me. maybe it'd be better just to remove the link? or clarify that it isn't me writing? I know that you guys gave me plenty of warning in regards to writing one of those things, and it's totally my fault that I didn't (I never really had time, but I'll still try to get around to it), but I would have at least appreciated it if you would have run this ghost written version by me, since it contains a few things that aren't true.
also, my arrangement doesn't have any of the Battle With Magus (as far as I know?) - just Marle's theme, the main battle theme, and a small hint of the Lavos theme.
I PMd Claudo about this and it still hasn't been changed. Anyone else I should talk to?
Message StarZander, since he's the webmaster.
GNU1516
01-10-2006, 12:25 AM
wow this is the best remixing project i've ever heard
Hagure_Metal
01-10-2006, 12:34 AM
There are direct links on the website for you to download the MP3s one-by-one.
Well, I was meaning to have the link for the "whole" sountrack in a compressed file, just like Bound Together.
By the way...
Hehe, where are you from, Hagure?
I'm from Chile =D... very far, far away tehehe. That could explain my poor english.
You have... how do I say... cute manner of speaking. Greetings. :D
Nothing to say.... *blushes*
--
Anyways, Has anyone think about my request?
See ya all.
herograw
01-10-2006, 12:37 AM
These tracks are YAWN-TASTICI'm sorry you feel that way...
Don't get me wrong. the music does what it was made (err... remade) to do, and does it well. However, I do not feel that it would warrant standalone attention if it were in an actual movie/game. Sort of like LotR, as someone might have said previously. The original chrono trigger music made me stop and acknowledge it. This doesn't.
Compyfox
01-10-2006, 01:06 AM
There are direct links on the website for you to download the MP3s one-by-one.
Well, I was meaning to have the link for the "whole" sountrack in a compressed file, just like Bound Together.
We are not the others. And what would that bring? MP3s are already compressed, a RAR wouldn't "compress" the files any further.
Anyways, Has anyone think about my request?
Thought about it and as one of those who "released" it, I say "no need for that". There aren't RAR packs for OCR either and you can get all files easily via the homepage. So I have to agree with DarkeSword.
Zeality
01-10-2006, 01:07 AM
I resubmitted the story to Slashdot's Index section, which serves as a sort of general news category. This should bypass the Game Editor, who is bent on running the game section like his personal blog.
VIVE LE ZEALITY
Hagure_Metal
01-10-2006, 01:12 AM
Compyfox, I've known all your efforts, no need to say what you've done for so outstanding project like Chrono Symphonic is.
I was just saying this request as an alternative, but... no need to insist. I think you all are alright.
Keep doing the good job kids!
herograw
01-10-2006, 02:32 AM
There are direct links on the website for you to download the MP3s one-by-one.
Well, I was meaning to have the link for the "whole" sountrack in a compressed file, just like Bound Together.
We are not the others. And what would that bring? MP3s are already compressed, a RAR wouldn't "compress" the files any further.
Anyways, Has anyone think about my request?
Thought about it and as one of those who "released" it, I say "no need for that". There aren't RAR packs for OCR either and you can get all files easily via the homepage. So I have to agree with DarkeSword.
*removed (http://symphonic.herograw.org/final/Chrono%20Symphonic%20(mp3%20version).rar)*
*Compyfox/EDIT (http://symphonic.herograw.org/final/Chrono%20Symphonic%20(mp3%20version).rar): Zing*
Compyfox
01-10-2006, 04:17 AM
In this RAR version is a typo in one of the tracks and I'd prefer NOT sharing that pack. We have mirrors for that and a torrent set. That's why I removed the link.
herograw
01-10-2006, 06:58 AM
In this RAR version is a typo in one of the tracks and I'd prefer NOT sharing that pack. We have mirrors for that and a torrent set. That's why I removed the link.
the rar'd mp3 pack was taken directly from the torrent..
to make sure my memory wasn't playing tricks on me I re-downloaded the rar file, unarchived it, introduced it back into the torrent folder, and started up the torrent. guess what? seeding......
perhaps you should check the torrent distribution for typos :P
EDIT: Is this typo consistent in the official mirrors as well? because it appears that the files I downloaded thru official mirrors and via bittorrent (not to mention the rar file) are identical. weird, ehh??
Compyfox
01-10-2006, 11:38 AM
Torrent fixes "faulty" files. But I know for a fact that the "RAR" pack I offered had a typo in the filename and the ID tags. The particular file should be automatically fixed (checked, and it is).
Still I said why there's no "need" for a mp3 pack - we have enough mirrors. why do you ignore that? I removed that link again. And please leave it be this time!
BTW:
What about the pagefixes you were asked to do? You totally ignored that, too?
Bundeslang
01-10-2006, 12:46 PM
I enjoyed the project.
G.WeLs
01-10-2006, 02:03 PM
I really like the project! There should be more like this, even for other games, where a lot of remixes are made from. (i would prefer one of terranigma) Im happy having a CT-Soundtrack-CD, with nice cover in my regal now! :)
i just missed some of the best ct-remixes on the compilation:
- The Frontier
- Far Away Memories
- Town Life (on acoustic guitar)
- Predetermination
(there are even some more good ones, but they wouldn't fit in the arrangement)
but really good work at all! gratz!
herograw
01-10-2006, 05:39 PM
Torrent fixes "faulty" files. But I know for a fact that the "RAR" pack I offered had a typo in the filename and the ID tags. The particular file should be automatically fixed (checked, and it is).
Still I said why there's no "need" for a mp3 pack - we have enough mirrors. why do you ignore that? I removed that link again. And please leave it be this time (http://symphonic.herograw.org/final/Chrono%20Symphonic%20(mp3%20version).rar)!
BTW:
What about the pagefixes you were asked to do? You totally ignored that, too?
If you're talking about the "Chrono_Symphonic_Mirror_Pack_(mp3).rar" on my server, I didn't use that one. I made a .rar of the mp3 folder from the torrent. perhaps that wasn't clear enough??
DarkeSword
01-10-2006, 06:40 PM
Torrent fixes "faulty" files. But I know for a fact that the "RAR" pack I offered had a typo in the filename and the ID tags. The particular file should be automatically fixed (checked, and it is).
Still I said why there's no "need" for a mp3 pack - we have enough mirrors. why do you ignore that? I removed that link again. And please leave it be this time (http://symphonic.herograw.org/final/Chrono%20Symphonic%20(mp3%20version).rar)!
BTW:
What about the pagefixes you were asked to do? You totally ignored that, too?
If you're talking about the "Chrono_Symphonic_Mirror_Pack_(mp3).rar" on my server, I didn't use that one. I made a .rar of the mp3 folder from the torrent. perhaps that wasn't clear enough??
Compy, there's nothing wrong with herograw providing a rar file of the MP3s as they're released on the torrent. You can never have 'enough' mirrors. If this helps to alleviate bandwidth consumption, isn't that all the better? The point is getting the music out there, and there are no errors with the tagging or filenames, because the files in this rar are taken directly from the torrent download, so rest easy.
Compyfox
01-10-2006, 07:10 PM
...what-ever
mDuo13
01-13-2006, 12:07 AM
When I was listening, and suddenly pixietricks' voice kicked in, my first thought was that my playlist had slipped into my anime soundtracks folder.
Then it occurred to me, and I said, "Wow."
Jillian Aversa
01-13-2006, 12:14 AM
Wow, thanks mDuo! ^_^
joe_cam
01-13-2006, 03:25 AM
Damn Compy, let him have his rar file for download. I think I'll download his rar file just to spite you... Watch that ego, boy...
I'll admit, I'm skeptical downloading this because I heard it's been quite disappointing, but I'll check it out with an open mind and hope for the best. Guess we'll see in a few days.
Rellik
01-13-2006, 11:55 AM
Damn Compy, let him have his rar file for download. I think I'll download his rar file just to spite you... Watch that ego, boy...
Compy may have been central to the project and put months of his own work into it, but that doesn't mean he's not acting for what, in his opinion, is in Chrono Symphonic's best interests. :roll: (sorry, reading this, that was rather confusing - in the interest of not being misunderstood, it might clarify if I just say outright that it's a pro-Compyfox post :P)
Darkmetamorphasis
01-13-2006, 07:48 PM
I liked the first half of the project, and I was like wow....if this were the OST of the movie..I'd buy it in an instant! And when I heard Pixietricks' voice on the second half, I literally yelled "Holy crap this is good!" Big CT fan, and its great to know that this was available. Really good job to all the remixers that made this possible for us fans!
Arcana
01-14-2006, 05:21 AM
I loaded the files up and dumped them into my iTunes and then started cooking supper. After about six or seven tracks, I was baffled at the very odd ordering of the tracks -- for example, Blake's track, which featured a medley of the Chrono Trigger themes, seemed to be a very odd introduction.
Now that I'm back at my computer, I have figured it out - someone didn't fill out the "Track Number" field or the "Disc Number" field in the ID3 tags. :(
I recommend that this be fixed; in the meantime, I'll be renumbering the tracks.
EDIT: I see Mouser X already pointed this out, and CompyFox replied, asking "Why should I?"
The reason is because many music players, namely, iTunes, sorts the tracks using the metadata in the ID3 tags. When I loaded it up, it noticed that there were no track numbers, and then proceeded to sort by artist, so I was listening to Blake's tracks first, then Darkesword's. I remember questioning the ordering of the tracks and thinking that this project's organization was questionable, at best, and it hardly allowed me to "relive the game" in symphonic glory like I had hoped. I had to go through the track list and renumber the tracks myself, which should have been an unnecessary activity, and I felt it ruined, a little bit, the impact of some of the first time listening to the track.
I advise that this project (and all future OCR projects) include track numbering. Like it ir not, iTunes, and its associated iPod are insanely popular and the average new listener might well be in fact downloading this project to listen on their iPod or iTunes.
boojay
01-14-2006, 07:33 AM
I've heard two of your performances thus far pixietricks, and i gotta say, kick-frickin'-ass!
To Far Away Times & Schala and The Queen
Arek the Absolute
01-14-2006, 07:55 AM
Arcana brings up a damn good point. We will be making sure to do that for our project.
Good lookin out homey.
DJrew
01-15-2006, 05:06 AM
I've heard two of your performances thus far pixietricks, and i gotta say, kick-frickin'-ass!
To Far Away Times & Schala and The Queen
i got these tracks two months earlier and they are totally awesome. pixietricks has a sweet voice and when i heard those tracks i couldn't wait to get the rest. good job everyone!
Kadosho
01-15-2006, 09:41 PM
Just listening to a bit of CS.. excellent work.
Honestly moved to hear this soundtrack in full orchestral.
Though a bit of the artists have dev'd into other styles, goes to show a huge amount of talent.
(*plus kudos to pixie! words just can't describe the angelic voice you have)
DarkeSword
01-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Looks like someone didn't read the rules and posted a review in the other thread. Because I'm not totally heartless, I'm going to quote the review here.
dear Chrono Symphonic team, thank you for recreating my most beloved game music ever. I was and always will be quiet in anticipation of my dearest game when enjoying your recreation and thank you deep down from the bottom of my heart. You recreated something more than music:
true emotion! laughter and smile - tears and cry
boojay
01-17-2006, 02:40 PM
Looks like someone didn't read the rules and posted a review in the other thread. Because I'm not totally heartless, I'm going to quote the review here.
dear Chrono Symphonic team, thank you for recreating my most beloved game music ever. I was and always will be quiet in anticipation of my dearest game when enjoying your recreation and thank you deep down from the bottom of my heart. You recreated something more than music:
true emotion! laughter and smile - tears and cry
seraphia: ok, I take it back
(j/k)
ambient
01-17-2006, 06:55 PM
Great project!
I was a bit skeptical about the whole "symphonic/cinematic" idea, but I have to admit that this project came out well. Sure, it is still sort of a mixed bag, but overall I would rate it a success.
My absolute favorite is mv's Darkest Omen. It blows away my previos favorite on the site, which was actually also done by mv - Time Chill.
Compyfox
01-18-2006, 04:21 PM
Again... somebody couldn't read the topic title, so I'll be closing the other thread till there're some news taking place. Sorry about that. Here's the feedback from the other thread:
Dudes! I just registered on these forums in order to say THANK YOU. I only heard of this Symphonic project today because I was searching Chrono Trigger music over the internet after a long time. Although it seems that this has been going on for a while, I must say this is just what CT needs. While Brink of Time was a nice arranged album, fans have made something even nicer! AWESOME. Keep up the good work.
So... When are we going to revamp the game with updated graphics, gameplay, additional sidequests and TECHS (Magus always needed more Combos)... Not that CT isn't a superb game in itself. :D
KyleJCrb
01-19-2006, 01:55 AM
Congrats guys, you are absolutely shattering my bandwidth this month. :lol: 48 gigs out of 60 used in just a couple weeks. I'm averaging several gigs a day on downloads, all for CS songs. Quite impressive. I never got that much activity for any previous remix projects I have mirrored.
Congrats guys, you are absolutely shattering my bandwidth this month. :lol: 48 gigs out of 60 used in just a couple weeks. I'm averaging several gigs a day on downloads, all for CS songs. Quite impressive. I never got that much activity for any previous remix projects I have mirrored.
It wasnt me I swear! I torrented. :lol:
Anyway, great job guys. This is definately going to be a project OCR will remember for a long time coming.
joe_cam
01-21-2006, 01:01 AM
Good effort, not really what I was expecting, some of the arrangements are fantastic, but the synth. Eww.
Enjoyable as background music.
Bongo Bill
01-24-2006, 02:00 AM
I'm up to 52GB for January, but that's not all CS. Is that the best you can do, Internet?
DarkeSword
01-24-2006, 02:42 AM
Enjoyable as background music.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Forgotten
01-24-2006, 04:31 AM
truely use hav out done urself. please keep doing what u do coz im sure everybody in this community loves all ur work.
looking forward to ur next project =)
good job team
KyleJCrb
01-24-2006, 04:43 AM
I've finally gotten to listen to CS, I'll be honest here: Except for a couple good tracks, I was a little underwhelmed. This project is by no means bad, but...I dunno. It just didn't really strike a chord with me. Part of it could be that I have no history with CT, so there's no nostalgia factor, but that's never stopped me from enjoying a lot of other songs from games I've never played before (which includes other CT remixes).
So I'll say that this project was a good effort and could probably fit in a movie, but I wasn't exactly overwhelmed by it. I can appreciate the hard work put into it, and there are a few tracks that are great. Overall though, I'd say that this project was only average at best.
Just my 2 cents.
StarZander
01-25-2006, 08:43 AM
This project has become very popular, all over the world. Here is some evidence of this:
Dear Zander,
Hello! I´m jornalist and editor of MP3 Magazine, a brazilian magazine about digital music. I would like to include all songs of Chrono Symphonic in next issue. This material is very good! Can you send me autorization or more details about the distribution terms?
Thanks
Alessandro Treguer
MP3 Magazine
www.grupoterabyte.com.br
+5511 4426 85 83
+5511 8276 45 47
I got this mail today. I don't really know about the legal issues, but if all the songs would come with a magazine, that you pay for, doesn't that mean you pay for the songs too? Or does that not count? I need someone with more expertise on this. I'm going to talk to Claado too.
KyleJCrb
01-25-2006, 11:44 AM
Hey, that's pretty dang cool. It may not be my thing personally, but this project IS very popular, and it is enjoyable for the most part. Glad to see OCR site projects getting major recognition like that, anyway. ;)
sephfire
01-25-2006, 02:06 PM
Dude ... that's friggin awesome.
Roblord
01-25-2006, 06:12 PM
Well, I'm new to the site but I'm here to say this:
CHRONO SYMPHONIC IS GREAT!
I would like to thank all the people that worked in the project. I'm thanking you all because of the pleasure you make me feel when I listen the songs.
Your work in the arrangments was a masterpiece.
I'm looking foward to new projects... :D
RoeTaKa
01-26-2006, 06:26 PM
Hey Pixie, I stumbled onto this xanga site and the girl has yours and Rue's orchestral version of the ending song for her page music, frggin' hilarious! She even used my Chrono Cross mix once on her page before, but you knocked me off! Haha, that's great Thought I'd share :wink:.
edit - ooohhh forgot the link haha http://www.xanga.com/Yaoi_dracones
Oh, congrats guys on a great project, some awesome stuff :D.
The Joker
01-27-2006, 05:56 AM
... How exactly did you... stumble on to this site, Alex? I mean, you likey the yaoi? Cause if you do, that's cool... ya perv! :P
BTW, I've only d/l a couple of tracks, but they sound pretty good. Also, Rellik, Ellywu, pixie(I tell you what you is... A good singer), & Roe... the heck was I saying? Oh yeah, Good friggin Job!
monieyang
01-27-2006, 06:14 AM
Okay, so the ONLY reason why I registered in OCR Forums is to post my comments on the Chrono Symphonic project.
First off, I'm an avid fan of the Chrono Trigger series. I've played all the games, (yes, including hacked versions of Radical Dreamers for the SNES). And after playing every single one of the games I've always had a yearning for something more. A sequel? A prequel? Who knows! All I know is that after Chrono Cross, I've wanted a little something else. I've waited and waited, hoping that maybe a new game will come out. Or maybe, even a 3D remake of Chrono Trigger! (God, can you imagine that?!)
The music is just brilliantly rearranged! I'll be honest and say this straight forth: I'm no musician. But you know what? That doesn't matter to me! What matters is that I'm an average consumer/listener who loves what he hears! And I definitely love the entire soundtrack. If ever there was such a real movie made, I hope that the producers/directors put as much effort and energy into it as did these young musicians who collaborated together to bring us CT Symphonic.
Great work everybody! This project just proves to me that internet collaboration on a wide scale is still possible and achievable (yet tolerable!) ^_^
~ monie yang
(by the way, Pixietricks you have a BEAUTIFUL voice!!!)
RoeTaKa
01-27-2006, 03:26 PM
... How exactly did you... stumble on to this site, Alex? I mean, you likey the yaoi? Cause if you do, that's cool... ya perv! :P
Haha totally forgot that might make me look weird, I just typed my name into google and see what came up, it's fun to do now and then!
And after playing every single one of the games I've always had a yearning for something more. A sequel? A prequel? Who knows! All I know is that after Chrono Cross, I've wanted a little something else. I've waited and waited, hoping that maybe a new game will come out.
Visit http://www.chronocompendium.com my friend, all the news you'd want on fan sequels or mods for chrono trigger is right there.
xamgis
01-30-2006, 05:05 PM
Honestly I didn't enjoy this project as I've enjoyed previous projects. I thought some of the music fell short of what could have been done with it instead of making a faux movie score. The Magus Battle theme and the Trial theme are two songs I thought could have been done differently and still come off just as powerful. I realize (to an extent) the direction that this project was going in. But I feel that the remixer could have been given more control of where they wanted to take the mix.
I think anyone that worked on this mix had played the Chrono Trigger game, and probably several times, so it's not like they wouldn't know the kinds of emotions and feelings to put behind their interpretation of the music. Again, I say that I know this was supposed to be more of a faux movie score not a game score, but I still think it could have been done differently.
I'm not saying I didn't enjoy this project at all, but overall I found it lacking to the standards of previous projects.
Draginvry
01-31-2006, 01:47 PM
I thought some of the music fell short of what could have been done with it instead of making a faux movie score.
Sadly, I have to agree. I'm not a big fan of movie arrangements to begin with.
Still, the project is awesome. Plus, it had SirRus.
Jillian Aversa
01-31-2006, 02:31 PM
Hey Pixie, I stumbled onto this xanga site and the girl has yours and Rue's orchestral version of the ending song for her page music, frggin' hilarious! She even used my Chrono Cross mix once on her page before, but you knocked me off! Haha, that's great Thought I'd share :wink:.
edit - ooohhh forgot the link haha http://www.xanga.com/Yaoi_dracones
Oh, congrats guys on a great project, some awesome stuff :D.
ROFL! Yaoi... The best part is, what does our sentimental song have to do with kissing guys? :lol:
Compyfox
01-31-2006, 02:37 PM
Even guys do have feelings...
Ice Dragon
02-01-2006, 04:41 PM
So...
What about the Special Edition? The topic is closed so I was wondering what's going on with that?
BTW, it's nice to know I wasn't the only one that felt the movie score idea lacked when it came to listening music. At least I'm not the weird one anymore :)
SirRus
02-01-2006, 06:52 PM
Still, the project is awesome. Plus, it had SirRus.
Yeah, that's what all the ladies are thinking too.
KyleJCrb
02-02-2006, 01:22 AM
So...
What about the Special Edition? The topic is closed so I was wondering what's going on with that?
Compy's workin' on it. It'll be done when it's done.
This was an excellent project, and all of the songs were great! The only complaint that I have is that it seems like the main theme was mixed into just about every song, which got a little old. Also, I noticed a couple songs mixed in there that I already had...Blue Skies Over Guardia is the one that I can remember...but that's ok :).
Overall, though, I really liked it.
Compyfox
02-03-2006, 06:15 PM
In every Chrono Trigger song is a part of the main theme. Even in the original version. Same happened with almost all Final Fantasy games. Especially FF7.
Another thing that makes "Chrono Symphonic" so special compared to other remixing projects is not the engineering, or the singer, or the remixers. Nope... Chrono Symphonic is the first remixing project (on OCR) that didn't follow the rule "okay you do this and that track and that track only". The mixers could do what they want with their "interpretations". They chose a source tune and mixed it into a complete score. Movie based or not - it is something special.
And as already mentioned - the score works best if you have a picture in front of you. So... why not try to play this music while playing Chrono Trigger again? Does it still not apeal?
To the "Special Edition":
I can only quote Kyle - I'm working on it and it's done when it's done. I won't go into it any further.
The thread was closed because it was misused as "feedback" thread, even though in the topic and on the first page was (and still is) standing that this thread is not for feedback and congrats. I'll post in there again if I have some relevant infos for you. Patience...
Fareq
02-06-2006, 03:03 AM
Bandwith numbers eh? My mirror got hit for 45.856 GB last month. Not bad at all. Nice work.
Hmm... well, when the special edition comes out, if you're in need of more mirrors, I could probably help out. I don't know how close to their limits all the mirrors are (or how big the Special Edition release will be), but if you're running low on bandwidth, let me know... I've got a bit I could spare.
Oh, and since this *is* the feedback thread...
awesome, can't wait for the special edition!
MC Axel
02-06-2006, 04:34 AM
It's great I love the music styles, songs like these make me want to start remixing... And then thinking about computer restrictions and lack of money for good programs and a decent sound card, just sends me back to playing my guitar.
Crabsmasher
02-08-2006, 12:48 PM
Absolutely Awesome.
GrayLightning
02-12-2006, 08:35 PM
I promised Ravi to comment on his CS mixes a while back, but I've been too busy up til now to listen to it with any great deal of detail.
Morning Sunlight by sephfire/SirRus
Nice work you two. This one really surprised me, as it seems very different from the work you two normally do. EQing/velocities of the marc/stac strings at the onset could have been a little more distinct to accent those passages though.
I recognize the reason piano and think the tone of it fits this piece perfectly. It has that nice gentile sound that I particularly like. The supporting strings and woodwinds add a nice touch and background element to the mix. Very nicely done you both!
Manifest Destiny by SirRus
This one I had to hear, I've heard the wip versions and the previous version of this.
Nice to see the stereo spread finally expanded on in this version. ;) The balance and placement is more refined now. I thought as usual for you, the creativity and the arrangement concepts brought to the table were handled very nicely. I'm not sure if those disco violins fit this piece as well as it could have though, but that's a small complaint. Compy did a nice job adding some space here between the various elements.
A little underdeveloped, and the ending could have been smoother with the ify ritardando and bass drum hit.
Small issues aside, I thought this was extremely well done, and a great listen. I'm not surprised that a lot of people are particularly citing your mix amongst the crowd. Good job bro, proud of you. Keep at it and keep improving!
grey_the_angel
02-12-2006, 09:20 PM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
I.Medley
02-12-2006, 11:40 PM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
Chrono Symphonic focuses only on Chrono Trigger.
Site Projects work on a game by game basis. Someone (or a group of people) come up with an idea for a project, and foster interest and participation by remixers, artists, and fans.
In other words, if you want a Chrono Cross project, you should try to organize it yourself.
grey_the_angel
02-12-2006, 11:50 PM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
Chrono Symphonic focuses only on Chrono Trigger.
Site Projects work on a game by game basis. Someone (or a group of people) come up with an idea for a project, and foster interest and participation by remixers, artists, and fans.
In other words, if you want a Chrono Cross project, you should try to organize it yourself. I would, but I have no musical talent other than my turntables.
KyleJCrb
02-13-2006, 12:12 AM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
Chrono Symphonic focuses only on Chrono Trigger.
Site Projects work on a game by game basis. Someone (or a group of people) come up with an idea for a project, and foster interest and participation by remixers, artists, and fans.
In other words, if you want a Chrono Cross project, you should try to organize it yourself. I would, but I have no musical talent other than my turntables.
Who said you needed musical talent?
Jillian Aversa
02-13-2006, 03:23 AM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
Chrono Symphonic focuses only on Chrono Trigger.
Site Projects work on a game by game basis. Someone (or a group of people) come up with an idea for a project, and foster interest and participation by remixers, artists, and fans.
In other words, if you want a Chrono Cross project, you should try to organize it yourself. I would, but I have no musical talent other than my turntables.
Who said you needed musical talent?
Well, you at least need to be known and respected in the community for people to follow you... Stick around, grey; maybe sometime. :P
grey_the_angel
02-13-2006, 03:28 AM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
Chrono Symphonic focuses only on Chrono Trigger.
Site Projects work on a game by game basis. Someone (or a group of people) come up with an idea for a project, and foster interest and participation by remixers, artists, and fans.
In other words, if you want a Chrono Cross project, you should try to organize it yourself. I would, but I have no musical talent other than my turntables.
Who said you needed musical talent?
Well, you at least need to be known and respected in the community for people to follow you... Stick around, grey; maybe sometime. :P If's it crap about the game, I'd be world famous. :D
ResEvil07
02-18-2006, 02:00 AM
As usual I am late to these kind of things *sigh*. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents worth: This project was the coolest thing I have ever heard coming out of remixing in a pretty good while. Everybody did an incredible job putting it all together. Absolutly incredible!!
Jillian Aversa
02-20-2006, 07:13 AM
VGDJ Chrono Symphonic Interview with Claado Shou available HERE (http://www.vgdj.net/Shows/Chrono%20Symphonic%20Interview.mp3)!
Tascar
02-24-2006, 02:06 AM
I think a score-type thing for Chrono Cross would be rather cool. Though in the many times throughout the years I had tried to imagine one, it seems ridiculously daunting. The plot to Chrono Cross is just so much more complex and hard to adapt than Chrono Trigger's.
Wevar
02-25-2006, 11:19 PM
Honestly, I think this is the most boring collection of remixes I have ever listened to. Mv's Darkest Omen is totally sweet, but the rest? Oh God, there's just no edge to it AT ALL! Here's a tip, guys: Orchestral remixes can have power, too. They don't HAVE to be boring as hell.
I am disappointed.
I almost started crying when the main theme was over. It felt like it never even started. It was just a bunch of half-assed orchestral sounds that never really formed into a melody. I can't believe that you actually made two CDs in 2006 (or was it 2005?) that were ground into dust by 1995 console music from a cart. What a crock.
watkinzez
02-25-2006, 11:49 PM
IP check anyone?
DarkeSword
03-01-2006, 04:16 PM
IP check isn't necessary, but Ramirez's review was moved to Abuse.
If you're going to review something, go ahead and review it intelligently. Insulting remixers won't get you anywhere. Review the music, not the people, please. :roll:
Last Crusader
03-03-2006, 12:54 AM
I only liked a few of the songs, but most of the tracks and the my overall feel on the music is that it doesn't have enough "umph" to it...
I didn't want to post in here for the last 3 months, thinking it was just me being biased against it, but I agree completely. Most of the tracks didn't have the passion they deserved. Many of the songs did have passion, but were unfortunately slow to start, and ended just when getting me interested. Tracks inspired by Magus had a sense of danger, but not the tormented side of it.
I truly am sorry that I didn't enjoy this as much as I should have, I am sorry to the remixers that dedicated their time to this that I didn't appreciate their work as much as was warranted. If there is any consolation to these artists, I still believe that I am biased by the constant delays and the promises of immaculate music. Nothing could have lived up to the promises made, and broken from September through January. If anyone was not reading the release discussion thread waiting with baited breath, I suggest you give it a listen and make your own choice. Otherwise, if anyone who followed the thread for the four months leading to the release has yet to get it, save yourself the trouble.
SirRus
03-03-2006, 08:09 PM
I like it.
Sleepy Emp
03-04-2006, 03:20 PM
Chrono Symphonic was included in the latest issue of the Russian gaming magazine "Game.EXE".
sephfire
03-07-2006, 04:59 PM
Chrono Symphonic was included in the latest issue of the Russian gaming magazine "Game.EXE".
Sweet.
I can't imagine what kind of crazy expectations some of you guys must have had, but I've been thoroughly enjoying CS since release day. Can't wait for the special edition.
Compyfox
03-07-2006, 05:33 PM
Is it possible to get a copy with translation? Also copies from all other magazine "coverings"? I should check all german magazines about that.
EDIT:
Didn't find anything special on a quick search. Just a couple of german blogs where C.S. was menioned. But nothing in a games amagazine or one of the leading german anime magazines (which is dissapointing, cause I know there is a fanbase there).
Liontamer
03-07-2006, 08:08 PM
Chrono Symphonic was included in the latest issue of the Russian gaming magazine "Game.EXE".
Yeah, how about some more information; cover date, issue number, page, what did the review/plug say.
Sleepy Emp
03-07-2006, 10:52 PM
The whole project as well as album cover art were included in the "gaming music" section of the magazine's DVD (#3, 2006), together with some Doom and Heretic remixes, Auto-Assault and Survivor soundtracks. The commentary wrote (please bear with my amateurish translation):
"Chrono Symphonic - a tribute-symphony.
This impressive work was performed by the enthusiasts from our favorite Overclocked Remix community. It is a tribute of esteem to the stunning soundtrack of the Chrono Trigger game (1995, Squaresoft, SNES), a musical "thank you!" to its authors: Yasunori Mitsuda, Nobuo Uematsu and Noriko Mats. Yasunori Mitsuda is the first in this list, of course.
The Chrono Symphonic project (http://chrono.ocremix.org), organized by Claado Shou, was started in October 2004, and was finished by this year's January. Eighteen different musicians took part in the project (including our compatriot). But the thing that started it all, you won't believe it, was a script for the Chrono Trigger movie, written by the aforementioned Claado Shou. The movie is less than likely to see the light of day, but its soundtrack is here. Many thanks to the authors!"
Compyfox
03-23-2006, 02:39 AM
To those who're interested:
Chrono Symphonic will be featured in next's VG Frequency (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=542364#542364) episode (EP #84, Sat 3/25, 10pm EST) along with interviews and some previously unreleased material that will be available on the upcoming "Special Edition (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2132452#2132452)".
I'll talk about some new infos regarding the "Special Edition" in the official Chrono Symphonic Project History (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2132452#2132452) thread later. Just gimme a bit to pin down some stuff.
I can't imagine what kind of crazy expectations some of you guys must have had, but I've been thoroughly enjoying CS since release day. Can't wait for the special edition.
I agree. The music owns and I have listened those tracks almost every day since I downloaded them.
That SE will be awesome!! :D :D :D
Ikuaod2
03-28-2006, 07:37 PM
I know a lot of work went into making those tracks. As a whole, I liked them. Though I will agree with some other points that were brought up, the feel and mood to the tracks. Some of them could have been a little stronger, but there were many I enjoyed. So congradulations on the Music, I've been listening to it a lot. Overall it was good, but personaly I thought some could have been stronger. Thanks for the hardwork to produce the music!
Gadiandi
04-16-2006, 03:57 PM
Chrono Symphonic is an excellent album! Thanks to everyone who worked on it. There were a few songs that I didn't like much but overall it is top-notch!
I think it would be great if a movie was made to go with the music but that probably won't be happening. Not any time soon anyway.
The Mutericator
04-17-2006, 03:21 PM
The only thing I would have done differently is that I would have started out the first track with the clock ticking back and forth like it did in the game, and then built up from there.
Oh, and the final battle track would have been more like the original... crazy, off the wall (but still orchestral) instead of the royal, regal, knight-like version on CS.
But overall, I liked it. Not as much as Bound Together, which I'm still listening to, but it was pretty good.
Daning
04-25-2006, 10:42 PM
Oh My God?
I got the shivers from this. It's just too good.
RepressedChaos
05-03-2006, 05:49 AM
I really enjoyed the album my friends were asking me if I could burn them copys :) I cried when it was released in a good kinda way
Claado Shou
05-06-2006, 10:33 PM
*sorry for posting bad thread.* so was their ever plans to do a cross section of this? cause it seriously seems half assed to do only one game in a series.
Chrono Symphonic focuses only on Chrono Trigger.
Site Projects work on a game by game basis. Someone (or a group of people) come up with an idea for a project, and foster interest and participation by remixers, artists, and fans.
In other words, if you want a Chrono Cross project, you should try to organize it yourself. I would, but I have no musical talent other than my turntables.
Who said you needed musical talent?
Well, you at least need to be known and respected in the community for people to follow you... Stick around, grey; maybe sometime. :P
Interesting you say that, because when I started the project, NO ONE knew who I was. The only thing I had to my name was the TBMC (Theme-Based Mixing Contest) which lasted all of 4 posts and was called a shameless rip on the OVGMC (which I helped zircon organize, but nevermind that...). Everyone except for the remixers just thought I was some dumb*ss trying to make a name for myself (which was half-right...I'll let you decide which half).
So, as long as you can grab their attention, pay no mind to your postcount, or their discourse about your project. If you want it, go and get it. I did.
~.C.S.~
RepressedChaos
05-07-2006, 11:28 PM
I'd absolutly love to be part of a remix project but I don't know how to remix period
Nintendo-GuRu
05-10-2006, 08:03 PM
Well, seeing as how CT is one of my favorite games, I was more than enthralled to hear that there was a giant remixing project (I was also enthralled to hear about the Chrono Resurection, too bad it was shut down, RIP). I've listened to both the CD's a good 5 times, and I thought I'd throw on my input on each individual song. Some were magnificent, and I also thought that some of the songs were completely murdered. But anyway, lets start going down the list, eh?
*Note* I did look at each song as part of a movie score, not as if I were replaying the game.
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1)Inciting Incident - sephfire, good job man. I really liked the pickup at 1:19, with the addition of the toms. The melody switch at 2:30 was a little cheesy, I felt, but theres really not a whole lot to say. Overall, good job.
2)Morning Sunlight - Another good song. There was a nice little LOTR feel at 1:47 which was pretty cool, and I was really diggin' the piano at 2:04. Good work.
3)Blue Skies Over Gaurdia - Darkesword, you beast. The beginning to this song sent major CHILLS down my spine (I think I may have popped one =/). BUT, even though I loved the intro, I wasn't the biggest fan of the tempo change of the melody (from the original song). I think having it more upbeat really gives it a more sparattic feel, like you're actually at a fair. But the mixing was great, I just couldn't get into it.
4)To Lands Unknown - The pickup at 0:51 was nice. This song definitely had a movie feel, sounded quite professional. Good job, Sleepy.
5)Darkness Dueling - Haha, you pulled a Morrowind intro =P. The piano was GREAT in this song. Very nice addition. And in the larger scale, I think the overall song had a huge Gershwin feel, especially at 0:38. Quite an accomplishment, great job, Lunar.
6)Lucca's Arrival - Meh, an average song. The horns at 1:25 were rather cheesy. It really doesn't do anything for me.
7)Revelation of Fire - Claado, good job. The pick up at 0:35 was great, I could very easily picture the court scene again. But, the drums at the intro of the song were a little iffy, I didn't care for 'em too much. But I did like the song, good job.
8)Hymn of Valor - 0:57 was rad. Nice intro with the snareroll. Though, at times, I couldn't hear the song you were trying to remix... In other words, it felt as though half of it was your own composition. Meh, average.
9)Frog's Intervention - ellywu2, I apologize in advance for my comments on your songs, I really don't have anything against you, I actually like your other work... But anyway, Frog's Intervention. You barely scratched the surface of his theme. I mean, half the song was a giant crescendo into NOTHING. I mean, its very ethereal, it would be good for like Frog getting the Masamune (we'll talk about that one later) but this specific scene would be Frog kicking ass. Song = murdered. Didn't like it very much at all.
10)Denadoro Climb - PLBZ, great job. I was worried that the person who did this song would destroy it (mainly because its one of the prettiest songs in original score) but you did it perfectly. Not too powerful, not too soft, it was the perfect tempo, perfect volume, just a great all around job.
11)The Masamune - *Sigh* I loved the intro. 0:40 was awesome, I could totally picture Frog getting the Masamune for the first time, I swear I got a boner. But... you completely waste a great intro. After 0:40 you get soft a bit... then in 2:30 you come back in with the SAME EXACT THING AS 0:40! I mean, when you actually hit his main theme, its toward the end, and again, its ethereal. The best scene in the game is when Frog cuts the cliff to get into Magus's castle, and this would be the song that would be playing. HIS THEME SHOULD BE PUMPING, IT SHOULD BE BLOWING MY BALL SACK OUT MY BUTT. But no, its nice and soft and bleh. Song = murdered.
12)Darkest Omen - O...M...G... *erection*. Awesome work, by far one of the best songs of the entire score. I could totally picture Chrono, Frog and Marle running through the Black Omen, kicking ass. 2:48 was SO GREAT. With the addition of the vocals, ugh, I loved it. Awesome work, mv.
13)Confronting the Mystic - My two favorite songs of the game: Frog's theme, Magus's theme. I had high expectations of this song (considering you did it, sephfire) and I felt as though I was a little let down. The song was a good song in and of itself, but I was longing for more low end, more power, more... UMPH. It just felt a little empty to me. It was okay, though.
14)Door to the End of Time - Not much to say, Blake, great song. Very professional.
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I'll comment the 2nd CD soon, right now I have to get to Hist. class. Peace~
Funky Munky
05-10-2006, 08:12 PM
Loved it. Four up. 10 Gold stars.
Nintendo-GuRu
05-11-2006, 02:51 AM
Heres the continuation of my review~
Disc 2
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15)Manifest Destiny - OMGOSH SIRRUS. I lovedddddd the violinnnnn. One of the best songs of the score, by far. Perfect tempo, perfect volume, perfect mastering, perfect mix, ugh, perfect! Loved it. <3
16)Schala and the Queen - Not much to say about this one. I couldn't stand the vocals at 2:07. Ruined the song for me. The rest of the song was average, though.
17)The Third Guru - Claado, I did like this song, I just feel as though it gets very monotonous and repetitive. Good job, though, I felt as though it didn't go anywhere.
18)Beneath the Surface - Another very professional song. I could so easily picture the movie. I loved the pickup at 2:24. I do think that the vocals were very choppy, though. Good job, Rellik.
19)The Rising - Again, I felt as though this song didn't go anywhere. Was rather monotonous, great intro, but from there, not much build. Meh, average.
20)Chrono's Dream - Darke, this was awesome work. I loved the violin at 0:47, and the minor key at 1:38 was cool too. Great work.
21)The Chrono Trigger - Very mellow song, and it did its job well. Nice pickup with Marle's theme at 2:35, Russell. Nice work.
22)A Parting of Ways - 1:02 made me happy. Not much to say here, good job, even though some of it was a tad cheesy.
23)The Last Stand - I liked the intro, nice build. I do think that 1:14 felt very empty though. Once that is over, and the main melody kicks in, the song really picks up. Liked it, nice work RoeTaKa.
24)The New Beginning - This song was great. Nice addition with the town theme at 0:23, and I also liked the addition of the fair theme at 1:01. Decent job, Sleepy.
25) To Far Away Times - 0:00-0:23, "Wow, this is a very pretty intro". 0:24, "Wow, I really hate this song". Maybe its just me, I dunno, I just cannot stand the vocals. She went flat quite a bit, and beyond that, I just... Ugh. Just don't care for it. Meh, so-so work.
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So there you have it. Thats my overall look on the entire project. But, I am no expert, so don't listen to what I say. =P
Thank you to all who worked on the CS, it was and enjoyment (well, mainly).
zikon
06-03-2006, 06:39 PM
LOVED IT!! TWO THUMBS UP! GREEN LIGHTS ACROSS THE BOARD!!!
antacid03
06-14-2006, 05:01 AM
16)Schala and the Queen - Not much to say about this one. I couldn't stand the vocals at 2:07. Ruined the song for me. The rest of the song was average, though.
I guess I'm a Schala nut, 'cause I love this one. Had to read the lyrics before I got a full grasp on what was going on, but everytime I hear this play... :cry:
Thank you, Pixie!
MajLink
06-30-2006, 07:12 AM
Yeah it was amazing, chrono trigger is my favorite game of all time, and so i was real happy when everyone of the songs was avle to do the game justice. I could still recognize my favorite tunes, but then at the same time they had a new twist. All in all i loved it. Out of all the songs my personal favorite is a toss up between either track 2 or 3, but still all the others were great!
Green_Machine
07-11-2006, 03:01 AM
I'm really excited about listening to this, but at the moment only one person is seeding at a whopping 4kb/sec. Can some more people please seed?
Claado Shou
08-04-2006, 03:26 AM
Just, uh, popping in for a sec. Just a tiny second...
...
...to let everyone know that CHRONO SYMPHONIC is now the most-torrented Site Project on OCR, and has NO signs of slowing down anytime soon.
Y'know, thought it might be worth, like, mentioning and stuff.
BTW, I'm in Guam, so Hafa Adai!
~.C.S.~
John Revoredo
08-23-2006, 08:07 PM
some mixes are outstanding ( UNKNOWN FOR PRESIDENT!!!, YEAH). However, very few others aren't that good because their orchestra sounds fake . But , i have to confess that i liked it. I wish i could have participated :cry:
mDuo13
09-15-2006, 11:48 PM
I just wanted to say that, even now, I am continuing to heartily enjoy this project. It is the only OCR project for which I have kept every single track. To everyone who participated: I am impressed. You have continued to prove that Chrono Trigger is the most remixable game ever made.
DrNeedlove
09-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Inciting Incident by sephfire.
I could see this as the into to the CT film, as stated how you wanted it to be perceived. The pick up was done nicely as well as the change in tempo. Very nicely done.
Morning Sunlight by sephfire and SirRus
Calming, much like the morning after a great storm. It’s clean and fresh. The incoming piano was abrupt, but overall flowed well with the song. The melody was nice and easy to hear. The bells were a nice addition near the end. Very well done.
Blue Skies Over Guardia by DarkeSword
The transition from “Morning Sunlight” to this song was right on. The upbeat tempo makes this a fun song to listen to. It sounds like what the song is supposed to, a day at the fair. Fun and without a worry in the world. The tempo change was fresh and went well with the song.
To Lands Unknown by Sleepy Emp
Mysterious, dark, the stings are great. At :53 the pickup is done nicely. I am pretty sure that this would work with the part of the game, but to be 100% I would have to see the two together. Overall a nice piece.
Darkness Dueling by LunarHeart
The drums rocked!!! Very nice intro makes me feel like I am in trouble and need to run. This would work very well with the fights done in this part of the game.
Lucca’s Arrival by Zas
The song begins sad. Slow tempo makes you feel that Chrono and Marle are scared and not sure what to do. Not my favorite song, but done well.
Revelation of Fire by Claado Shou
Into was great, the cello was nice. The drums at ~:20 were a nice touch. :036 Here is where I think that the into and the rest of the song don’t mesh. The song from :036 to 1:13 remind me of the imps through out the game. With a little change here and there it could be a solid piece.
Hymn of Valor by Red Omen
Majestic intro, the calm before the storm. Very nicely done until 1:27. Not sure what went the music was saying. Then at 2:00 I could hear the melody again. Then at 2:53 the majestic feel, but some of the notes to me did not fit well. Not bad.
Frog’s Intervention by ellywu2
Sounds like a horror film, not sure the idea you had was put into music well. The changes at :54 were strange. I feel this does not go well with the part, but I might need to see them together. 1:50ish had a majestic feel to it, which I liked. I could feel Frog in this part of the song. At parts you needed to bring out the melody a bit more. The song ended abruptly. Cut out the beginning parts, bring out the melody and have an ending and you have a nice piece.
Denadoro Climb by PLBenjaminz
Very nicely done, fits well with the part of the game. The tempos and volume were done well. A solid piece.
The Masamune by ellywu2
The into was awesome!!! I could see the majestic sword coming together as one. I like the soft melody of Frog’s song, but the overall the part at 1:27 was too quite. My opinion is that you should have kept building this majestic theme. Then at 2:30 you pick back the great work you had at the into. Then quite, but not as before, then Frog’s song into a good ending. With some work this could be one of the best songs.
Darkest Omen by mv
Man you get right to the point. Nice intro. Fast, dark makes me want to run scared. The piano was done nicely. The piano around 1:38 and the choir there after transition well into the slower tempo. The chimes are a nice way to transition back into the dark omen feel. I love the piano again at 2:11 and on. Huge end, the choir again plays well with the feel of the music. A nicely done piece and is becoming one of my favorites on the album.
Confronting the Mystic by sephfire
This is a huge part in the game. The intro was nice, I could see the battle. Then Magus’s music with strings is always nice. The only complaint is the song could have been more. It is nicely done but could be a bit more powerful, maybe adding more of Magus’s theme.
Door to the End of Time by Blake Perdue
The intro was mysterious. Easy to see how the characters feel. The oboe and bassoon version of Frog’s theme at 1:44 was nicely done. Parts of this would also make a great ending theme for a CT movie. A very nice piece.
Manifest Destiny by SirRus
This was a hard song for me to review for I am tainted by Zealous Entropy by Ashane. If you have never heard that mix download it now!!! Now back to the song at hand. The violin was done very well. I could see a symphony playing this song and it goes well with the part of the game. One of the best on the album by far. Nice mix SirRus.
Schala and the Queen by ellywu2 and pixietricks
The intro was a bit slow, but I could see talking being done at this part, more of a background type of music. Ahhh pixietricks, a breath of fresh air into this song. You voice goes well with the music. Ellywu2 did a good job with the tempos and volumes as the words were being sung. 2:55, Magus’s theme, nice. Then a build up to the words, nicely done. Sometimes the music did not flow great, sounded like different songs. The change at 5:33 was nicely done. Very powerful. One of the better songs.
The Third Guru by Claado Shou
The strings are a nice play on the music. The cello was a bit loud and could have served better softer. It made the song repetitive. Quite it down and bring the melody up and you have a decent piece.
Beneath the Surface by Rellik
Powerful. A storm brewing, a fierce battle to take place. Then a calm before the voices are added, a nice transition. The end was great! Very nicely done.
The Rising by DarkeSword
Quick intro, dark, the choir sets the tone. Magus’s theme was done nicely. I could see the darkness in this song, as a story is being told, the truth unfolded. A nice song, then it just ends. Other than that, solid.
Chrono’s Dream by DarkeSword
Morning Sunlight theme was done well at the start, with a twist to show that things are not what they seem. Slowly the change was done to show Chrono seeing the differences. I could see this in the music. Nice.
The Chrono Trigger by Russell Cox
A very relaxing song. Mellow and soft. Then with some dark overtones you shift moods very nicely. A nice piece.
A Parting of Ways by Unknown
The song was done well. Internal struggles, as shown with Magus’s theme. Back and forth. A nice piece that easily gets its idea across. But I expect nothing less from Unknown.
The Last Stand by RoeTaKa
The build up was great. Made me feel how huge the battle to that was about to ensue was. The fast tempo was done well, not to sure at 1:23, did not sound right. Then at 1:40 back on track. I could “see” battle raging on. Lavos vs Chrono and his team. 3:10, a nice transition into the next part of the song. Some parts did not follow each other very well. A decent song.
The New Beginning by Sleepy Emp
The intro is right on here. A mixture of emotions is shown through out this song. Happiness, sadness, joy, excitement, hope. Very nicely done.
To Far Away Time by Reuben Kee and pixietricks
The intro was awesome. Then pixietricks comes in, very nice. Calming. This song could easily be shown as the credits role, and it would keep people in their seats. By far one of my favorites on the entire album.
Overall
This is a great album that should be downloaded by CT fans and those who may not of ever played the game alike. It is easy to get lost in the music and find yourself day dreaming about the parts of the game. An album that should be on everyone’s iPod ® or in their CD case.
Kholdstare
09-23-2006, 03:01 PM
Personally, I loved every secon dof it. I just wish there was a little less coverage on frog's theme or magus (seemed kinda like overkill to me) and more on some of the other stuff. Or even if the project was the same but just had a few more tracks from some of the other music. Just my two cents.
Great job though!
Magus05
10-01-2006, 03:35 AM
I'm not sure who all this is directed to, hopefully they will see it and know.
Chrono Trigger was the first video game that I ever had a true connection with. The story was so caring, and the characters were so memorable, it's the only game I can still pick up and play at almost any time.
That said, when I stumbled upon this project, I was very excited. I downloaded it, listened to it, and I can honestly say a few things.
1. Everybody involved is extremely talented. No need to name anybody specific; everybody involved should be proud of what they have created. Chrono Trigger was the first game that made me cry, and some of these tracks sent me back to the first time I played this wonderful game.
2. This has got to be the most amazing fan project ever. To take music from a game and recompile it into a modern form is one thing; but to extract the themes of each track and create entirely new songs is just outstanding.
I don't feel like writing an in depth review, I don't think it really fits the project. Is it perfect? Of course not. But neither was the game it was based on and I still loved it.
If I could have one request, it would be to have "To Far Away Times" slightly altered. I don't really like the japanese section of the song. Not knocking the vocalist, her voice is beautiful, I just think it kind of interrupts the song. But that's just my opinion. I realize there is a specific reason it was done, I just thought I'd put that out there.
Anyways, thanks to everybody involved. You have literally given me a bit of my childhood back.
Luna child
10-17-2006, 06:33 PM
I'm a fan of Chrono Trigger since the 90's...
I've also been a fan of the OCRemix crew since '04 and been listening to y'all ever since.I enjoy listening to the 'Chrono Symphonic' album during work and class and hope to hear mroe mixes from popular old school games..
I just want to thank the artists who took the time to put together these wonderful mixes.
SirRus
10-18-2006, 07:41 AM
Hah, wow as a hardcore CT fan myself, I feel like we have really done a service to CT fans everywhere. This was a spectacular idea - once again gotta give props Claado for the idea and seeing it through. Good job everyone, this is a classic project that I never get tired of listening to from time to time, because the themes are so nostalgic and we all did a great job with our reinterpretations and making them our own.
Claado Shou
10-20-2006, 01:54 AM
Thank you so much for everything you guys have said about the project. Listening to it at school, at work, to help put you to sleep at night...these are the best places and times to listen to this project, I think. Sit down and listen to it once to coordinate the scenes with the music, but otherwise, it's relaxing and meditative. Engaging, sure, but still, it's a soundtrack. And I'm glad you guys are treating it as one.
BTW, if you guys haven't heard, I'll soon be starting another (similar) project to CS, called "Phantasy Symphonic: A Cinematic Adaptation" (tentative), based on the game Phantasy Star IV (Genesis). If you're interested in helping out with design, website hosting, banner-creation, anything you can think of, let me know (PM, in here, whatev). I'd appreciate some pre-project work to really launch this thing off at high speed.
~.C.S.~
Luna child
10-20-2006, 10:08 PM
Thank you so much for everything you guys have said about the project. Listening to it at school, at work, to help put you to sleep at night...these are the best places and times to listen to this project, I think. Sit down and listen to it once to coordinate the scenes with the music, but otherwise, it's relaxing and meditative. Engaging, sure, but still, it's a soundtrack. And I'm glad you guys are treating it as one.
BTW, if you guys haven't heard, I'll soon be starting another (similar) project to CS, called "Phantasy Symphonic: A Cinematic Adaptation" (tentative), based on the game Phantasy Star IV (Genesis). If you're interested in helping out with design, website hosting, banner-creation, anything you can think of, let me know (PM, in here, whatev). I'd appreciate some pre-project work to really launch this thing off at high speed.
~.C.S.~
Oh! thanx! ^_^
I wish I knew how to do the kool things with music like you guys can.
I really enjoyed the Phantasy Star series (well.. part of it..), but it's still one of my favorites; I like its music.
linkspast
11-12-2006, 04:13 AM
So all I have to say is that I have a female friend who dose not like video games at all. and she heard this and could not belive it came out of a video game.
It is so awesome. Thanks for all your work.
muzikal-phoenix
01-26-2007, 01:48 AM
I...love...this...so...much...
dont have any particular favorites...yet [except for maybe Hymn Of Valor...the outro is just beautiful.
more comments to come
Shulleoghedd
02-19-2007, 09:04 PM
I don't know if this is the better place to put this but...
I've added voice to the trailer of Chrono Symphonic. It's not perfect, but it's my best. Hope you like it. Here:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/Shulleoghedd/th_ChronoSymphonicTrailer.jpg (http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/Shulleoghedd/?action=view¤t=ChronoSymphonicTrailer.flv)
I don't know if this is the better place to put this but...
I've added voice to the trailer of Chrono Symphonic. It's not perfect, but it's my best. Hope you like it. Here:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/Shulleoghedd/th_ChronoSymphonicTrailer.jpg (http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/Shulleoghedd/?action=view¤t=ChronoSymphonicTrailer.flv)
The accent is distracting, but it's a pretty cool concept.
Leme Inthrigil
04-17-2007, 09:34 PM
I'm wondering if anyone minds if I start making a movie with the soundtrack and script of this project. If you have any objections, please tell me. I'd like to get the permission of everyone who helped with the project.
The Pezman
10-22-2007, 02:01 AM
It doesn't sound like anything came of the request of the poster above me. I have a similar sort of request.
As many people on this forum know, I am an editor of the increasingly well-known Chrono Trigger Novel Project (linked to in my sig). We're seeking official publication and are very close to sending out chapters to Square. They know of our existence and we have not been C&D'ed, so that alone is an indication that they're willing to give us a shot. We've been writing & editing the novel as well as collecting signatures for an official petition to Square Enix indicating the fans really do want this.
We made an appearance at MAGFest last year to bolster publicity and gain signatures. We made a few small waves and got cozy with some of the OCR community. Ever since, I've been getting more involved here in addition to working on the CTNP.
We're definitely going to return for MAGFest VI, and this time we want to really make ourselves known with an official event. This event will probably be a dramatic reading of some selections from the novel, followed by a Q&A session. We'd gain more attention this way, and it's better than just asking for signatures.
We were hoping that, in order to make the dramatic reading more... well... dramatic, the appropriate Chrono Symphonic track could play in the background for whatever scenes we choose to read. It could serve as an unofficial alliance between these two organizations, and I think it would work out really well.
ThatsGobbles
06-21-2008, 12:15 AM
So, for the sake of correct tagging, did pixietricks actually participate in the song remixing/arrangement, or only vocals?
Just wondering so I can know whether to put her as vocalist AND arranger or just vocalist.
baron.cecil
10-19-2008, 10:36 PM
Hello,
Did they release the Chrono Symphonic sheet music? If so, where can I find it?
DarkeSword
10-20-2008, 01:21 AM
No, there was no official CS sheet music. Sorry. Your best bet is to contact the remixer for the specific song you want sheet music for.
For the record, if you want sheet music for my tracks on the project, you're out of luck, because there is none.
Fused King
05-11-2009, 04:44 PM
I was wondering if anyone has the translation of the lyrics from "Schala and the Queen" and I also want yo know what language the lyrics are. I'm thinking it's Japanese (because the game is pretty traditional in its drawings and such) but I'm not entirely sure. Enlighten me.
zircon
05-11-2009, 06:39 PM
http://www.vizzed.com/chrono/remixes.htm
Check the "Lyrics" link for Schala and the Queen.
marcio772
06-15-2009, 05:50 PM
awesome remix, thanks.
yosefu
07-09-2009, 10:30 AM
I would like to thank all the remixers because as a listener i think this album is just pure gold. It sounds great and very cinermatic so thankyou for creating this. Great job guys
KillaGouge
08-02-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm currently working a DVD project for Chrono Compendium (http://www.chronocompendium.com/) that will cover their video playthrough of Crimson Echoes. I'm, asking permission to use some of the Chrono Symphonic music for menu background music and the like. Would that be alright?
DarkeSword
08-02-2009, 03:33 PM
All three of my tracks are okay to use, but please use the OC ReMix version of Blue Skies Over Guardia (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01095/) instead of the album version.
In any case, project mixes fall under the OCR Terms of Use in the Content Policy (http://www.ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy). Make sure to read that.
KillaGouge
08-02-2009, 04:41 PM
Thank you very much for your prompt reply. I read over the Content Policy and I will be sure to include all artists and track names in the credits. Also, there will be a zero cost for the end result.
CovaH_Havoc
10-27-2009, 08:41 PM
I have not heard such well done remixes in a long time and the remixers of this deserve so much props for this. The song "Darkness Dueling" is fantastic! and there are so many songs to complement. To all who had a part in this CD keep up the good work I wish to hear even more amazing songs in the future.
CovaH_Havoc
10-27-2009, 09:12 PM
One more thing I forgot to mention... If anyone who has done this CD is interested I would like to make a suggestion to try and remix "Boss Battle 2" it is a pretty good song and from what I have seen in this CD i am sure you would make it sound even more awesome
higgs
11-08-2009, 08:23 AM
I would like to know if there is any update on the Special Edition. I don't want to urge anyone but it's been a very long time. When will it be released?
DarkeSword
11-08-2009, 10:32 PM
There is no Special Edition.
Yeah I think Compyfox was planning one, but as far as I know he's long gone.
The Dual Dragons
02-06-2010, 02:47 PM
Man, I remember this was the first ReMix project I ever joined, wish I could redo my track! hahaha (Darkness Dueling).
TheThirdGuru
09-21-2010, 04:53 PM
First of all... hi!! I'm new here. Greg from NJ/PA, and an English Major.
So here's my question for y'all...
On the Chrono Symphonic album, who does the female vocals for To Far Away Times? They're BEAUTIFUL, and I'm in love with that song. Thanks!!
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