Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[TheCatPhysician]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/pricecd/22copy.jpg

haha you stealer

[Theory of Nonexistence]

lol, shit dude, you almost made me piss my pants.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

lol, shit dude, you almost made me piss my pants.

Ya rlyten characters

[Critical Hit]

*sigh* I'm done waiting. Maybe I just won't get on the interwebs for the next few days so that the next time that I DO there'll almost certainly be something there.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

haha, won't even wait another 4 minutes for the next checkpoint?:p

[TheCatPhysician]

holy crap i had no idea a whole hour just passed

i need to take a break from this

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Yeah lol, same here. But still nothing...

[SirChadlyOC]

So I suppose it's probably a pretty bad sign that Nintendo is delaying the release of information that may or may not reveal a delayed release date for the game. I'm totally excited for this game (and the Web site), but this is kind of ridiculous.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Hey guys, apparently Nintendo Power said that info will be out BEGINNING May 22nd. Heres some nice speculation for you:

When does all of the US turn May 22? When its 12 AM PST. What time is it in Japan then? 4 PM. (previously mentioned that this is when the japanese school kids start getting home) When did the NoJ site say the site would open? Afternoon...

It fits. Sakurai might be waiting for the whole world to be May 22 to release his site. 4PM JPN, 12AM PST, 3AM EST, and you can probably do the rest. Its the best bet now...

hm...well, it makes SOME sense...

[Scufo]

3:00 AM, huh?

It's times like these I wish I lived on the other side of the continent.

[Strike911]

haha, won't even wait another 4 minutes for the next checkpoint?:p

CHECKPOINT!

http://www.torfree.net/~dl663/videogames/Images/daytonass2.jpg

[Blake]

CHECKPOINT!

http://www.torfree.net/~dl663/videogames/Images/daytonass2.jpg

GAME OVER YEAAAAH

[Theory of Nonexistence]

*sigh* I'm beginning to lose hope. Past midnight here and STILL nothing...

[Arek the Absolute]

i was gone almost 4 hours and I come back and it is still not up
fission mailed and it makes me lol

[linkspast]

LOL you guys crack me up. You are staying up till 3am just for some info that will be there in the morning...

well I did get home and avoided this until I looked at the site as not to spoil it for me...

Nerds.. . .we are

[Theory of Nonexistence]

yes...yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. I want to fucking know what's going on with this game. I can't wait until morning. Actually I would, but since yesterday was the last day of school, staying up all night to do nothing sounds better than going to sleep, getting up, and THEN doing nothing.

p.s: another hour, failed....

[Critical Hit]

Well according to someone up there ^ we've got about 20 minutes till it's midnight across the US (excluding AK (where I am) and Hawaii of course)...so we'll see then. It'll be 11pm for me. I'm killing time playing starfox 64 and other VC titles ^_^....anyway, let's cross our fingers for the top of the hour.:neutral:

[Strike911]

yeah well, we`re all gonna feel like asshats when we pass out from exhaustion a few hours from now. Only then will the site be updated. It has been written.

haha.

I certainly hope the news is exciting. I imagine it must be moderately exciting if they are counting down to something... any news is good news at this point in Brawl's short existence

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Yeah, that was me, and uh...15 minutes :3

owait, this just in:

There is no smash bros brawl. Sakurai was unfortunately in a bus accident involving kirby and a bus. More info starting today.

[KakTheInfected]

It's up...

[atmuh]

with
*ahem*
NOTHING


hey look mitsuda is doing music for it
nifty

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Holy shit...check out the musicians...

other than that...ghey at the moment. Guess I'll check back in another week...

*sigh*

[KakTheInfected]

Yup. Luckily for me I wasn't expecting too much. Unfortunately, 99% of the people waiting for a big blowout are going to go nuts and blame Nintendo because they got themselves hyped up.

[atmuh]

ya
you people should have stuck with me

[Critical Hit]

It's up...


.......:whatevaa:

EDIT: It'll be fun to see what all these various composers will do with the classic nintendo themes. I wonder why they decided to get so many..? Not that it's a bad thing, of course. At any rate, I just hope we see a release date soon...that's all I really want. They could leave everything else in the dark until it's released, as long as we get that release date sometime (preferably) soon.

[atmuh]

i like the menu music
and the way your icon looks in game
with the picture and character name

[linkspast]

Lame.

But it is kinda cool that the stages change from night to day. well at least this one does...

[Antipode]

That "menu" music is supposedly the song that plays on the Battlefield stage. It's not actually the menu music.

But yeah...I was kind of expecting something a bit bigger than a musician list...oh well, at least we get daily updates. That probably means, like, a stage or a character, or maybe a song or something daily? I hope? It sounds like they're just "opening" it today and dragging the hype on and on and on...

I just want the damn game already.

[atmuh]

That "menu" music is supposedly the song that plays on the Battlefield stage. It's not actually the menu music.

it is called menu 1
even if it plays in that stage i would assume a song called menu 1 is menu music
maybe

[Theory of Nonexistence]

In other news, whaddya think of my new sig?

[Strike911]

cool. I wonder if any composers that worked on those games might see a character in the roster... *cough* Chronotrigger *cough* NiGHTS *cough*

doubtful but meh good times

[Orange Pylon]

The Cho Aniki composer is contributing to this game.

I'm buying my Wii tomorrow!

[Ciel]

Insane composer roster...

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Yeah, I noticed Yoko Shimomura's on the list...Sora perhaps? Or King Mickey?

Anyway, I'm tired...I'll check for more info tomorrow

[Ray Falling]

Maybe that's why they say: "This is dangerous. It's a little risky.
If you're wondering what I'm talking about, it's the line-up of musicians who are contributing to Super Smash Bros. Brawl."

What's so dangerous? That these people are known for producing music on other big games that may or may not have their characters appearing on SSBB and we're not supposed to know about it yet?

n_n; Hmm, I love living on the edge.

Anyway, I expect mucho updates and not see this site die the day after the hype dies. You know, like Dutch politics... *snap*

[watkinzez]

Holy crap.
I know a lot of people are no doubt complaining about no new characters, but the idea they've got for the soundtrack is seriously cool.

We've asked our group of arrangement supervisors to listen to an elite selection of Nintendo music and asked them to arrange several of their favourite songs...which means there will be quite a large number of songs.

It's like the Japanese gaming industry just did a Nintendo arrangement album.
I'm happy.

[DJ Tempora]

In other news, whaddya think of my new sig?
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5416/japantimetx2.gif

Heh, I made that ^ earlier and didn't really get to use it. Figured you and some of the other folks in here might enjoy.

JAPAN TIME

[TheCatPhysician]

haha, nice work

yeah, today was an adventure. well now i have a new update every weekday to look forward to

[Ninja-san]

Sakuraba's music in the track listing so im extremely thrilled :)

[Raziellink]

Holy crap.
I know a lot of people are no doubt complaining about no new characters, but the idea they've got for the soundtrack is seriously cool.



It's like the Japanese gaming industry just did a Nintendo arrangement album.
I'm happy.

So they are all gonna remix some songs they like? That means that it might be possible that two of them remix thesame song, but eventually, one will get picked. I hope that there will be a way to get a hold of the other songs. I'm curious what all those composers can do with such classic themes.

[Critical Hit]

So they are all gonna remix some songs they like? That means that it might be possible that two of them remix thesame song, but eventually, one will get picked. I hope that there will be a way to get a hold of the other songs. I'm curious what all those composers can do with such classic themes.

They'll probably just do what they did in Melee; have multiple tracks per level, and it will randomly select which song to play when you enter the stage. Or at least that's what I'd assume (and hope). That way we can see all kinds of different takes from different composers on various songs we all know and love.

[!Nekko!]

Not exactly the info dump I was expecting but still kind of cool. This will only be truly cool if they actually update it almost daily. The musician list was kind of neat. I know a lot of people are going to be speculating whose going to be in the game based on that list, even though most of those game composers are probably just free-lance now, like Nobuo Uematsu. Now to wait until tomorrow!

[JoeFu]

WOW at the musicians list. This game will have awesome music... I mean wtf, talk about an allstar cast just to make music. Also I'm pretty happy that we'll be getting info on the the game regularly now, instead of waiting months for a tiny bit of info.

Hopefully a new trailer is shown at the Nintendo event today or tomorrow though.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Holy shit, look at that musicians list.

[The Mutericator]

Sakuraba's music in the track listing so im extremely thrilled :)

WHOALY SHIT SAKURABA? I didn't even see her the first time I went through that list... sweetness, this game's soundtrack is gonna rock ass, if nothing else.

This is enough of an info dump for me. I'm happy.

[The Author]

Is Smash becoming the "In" thing in videogames?


Some kind of project that people wish to be part of? I mean, that list is something. Old rivals working together. When you think about it, to have people like Kojima "beg" to be in this game, and then you see such a list. I think this game is gonna be one of the most memorable of this generation if they manage to get an all star cast like that for all aspects of the game.

(although we know more about music related people than about "lead background animation designers"... oh well.)

[watkinzez]

I can imagine Sakurai going up to industry people and saying "sup wanna work on brawl?"
Oh, and Sakuraba's arrangement in MP3 format-

http://www.shacknews.com/remo/smash.mp3

[Kureejii Lea]

Yasunori Mitsuda, Yoko Shimomura and Motoi Sakuraba. Awesome.

[KyleJCrb]

WHOALY SHIT SAKURABA? I didn't even see her the first time I went through that list... sweetness, this game's soundtrack is gonna rock ass, if nothing else.

Sakuraba's a dude, dude. :P

[Arek the Absolute]

a site facelift and a new song....thats pretty much it
good thing i didnt stay up for this

[megadave]

There's a Wiimote icon by the 'How To Play' section - Maybe this things played with the Wiimote rather than the classic controller?

[Arek the Absolute]

ugh didnt you hear
gamecube controller plzkthx

[Ninja-san]

Are they still selling new controllers? Mine are all better much messed up.

[anthonium]

Think we can say we know some of the new characters in the game based on the music composers? The fact I see the guy that composed Golden Sun music makes me a bit giddy about the possibility of Golden Sun characters in the game.

[Arek the Absolute]

reading the last 80 or so posts of fanboys is pure lol
if nintendo did anything right with the site, it was making fanboys squirm

[cobaltstarfire]

D:

The song feels a little dead...I hope the rest are better.

*hides*

[Sir_NutS]

woah, that's one heck of a list of composers. I mean, even Yuzo Koshiro is there...

This could be, as the website states, a historic moment in video game music (as geeky as that sounds). Nice fucking work nintendo.

[Ninja-san]

Anyone know where i can grab the main theme by Uematsu?

[!Nekko!]

Think we can say we know some of the new characters in the game based on the music composers? The fact I see the guy that composed Golden Sun music makes me a bit giddy about the possibility of Golden Sun characters in the game.

Check back at my post on the last page (p. 255). Composers can be independent of their game companies, so don't get your hopes up. The prospect of composing music for their game's character's level is definitely a tasty thought, though.

[megadave]

ugh didnt you hear
gamecube controller plzkthx

Yeah, like 2,000 years ago. But that wiimote icon is still there on the official site.

[The Mutericator]

Sakuraba's a dude, dude. :P

Weird. I always thought he was a girl for some reason... maybe I got him confused with the girl who sings the opening in Phantasia? I have no idea.

Here's, again, to Golden Sun characters.

[The Author]

Yeah, like 2,000 years ago. But that wiimote icon is still there on the official site.

...

As I have often stated:

A NINTENDO CANADA HIGH RANKED EMPLOYEE STATED (the same night he gave me my free Wii) THAT SSBB WOULD USE THE WIIMOTE.

I even questionned his answer stating that what I heard online was classic controller or gamecube controller. He repeated: "It's a Wii game, it's gonna use the Wiimote."

[Dark Chocobo]

They said that they'd have multiple control schemes. Maybe they'll have an option for the Wiimote and one for the GCN controller.

[Drack]

...

As I have often stated:

A NINTENDO CANADA HIGH RANKED EMPLOYEE STATED (the same night he gave me my free Wii) THAT SSBB WOULD USE THE WIIMOTE.

I even questionned his answer stating that what I heard online was classic controller or gamecube controller. He repeated: "It's a Wii game, it's gonna use the Wiimote."I'm sorry, but I'm taking that response with not a grain, but a mountain of salt.

Answers have been across the board when Nintendo employees have been asked about Brawl's controls. From my perspective, it's easy to see how a classic or gamecube controller would work - just like Melee did!

But a Wiimote + Chuck combo isn't likely gonna cut it. You have A attack, B attack, Jump (Not everyone uses up to jump), shield w/ grab, and shield w/o grab. Unless you want to use the D-pad on the wiimote, that's not going to work out. And if you do,it's not going to be comfortable.

I predict multiple control schemes, but I don't think many will use the 'mote.

Edit: Bolded a statement.

[The Author]

I will personally disregard your theories. Nothing against you, but I prefer to listen to what an official employee (high ranking too) of Nintendo said than to go into the speculation realm of things.

Even if I am wrong and you are right, I believe that my information as of now has a semblance of credibility. Your theory is just that, theory.

[megadave]

Time will tell.

[captaineegee]

Well crap, now I guess I have to buy a Wii. The music alone to me is worth. SSBM is the game that got me to buy a Cube as well.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I will personally disregard your theories. Nothing against you, but I prefer to listen to what an official employee (high ranking too) of Nintendo said than to go into the speculation realm of things.

Even if I am wrong and you are right, I believe that my information as of now has a semblance of credibility. Your theory is just that, theory.

If you go back and check that blog back on p. 243, (http://nintendrone.blog.com/) IF this can be considered a credible source and considering he says he got an interview w/ someone very closely related to the dev team, the main focus of the control scheme will be the classic GCN controllers and Nintendo is contemplating putting them back on the market.

Players will be able to choose from multiple control options. Main focus is on GC controller, and Nintendo is currently considering redistribution of them.

[The Author]

Again, the guy who gave me this information would know about that, he was in the marketing aspect of the company. Deciding to bring back the GC controller would be something he would be well aware of, since almost every issue from putting an item back on the market would be known by him. These issues would also have been known back in october, when I spoke with him. Sadly, my lack of a tape recorder (I was there to win a Wii and not interview marketing people about information concerning a videogame that was far off.) means that I cannot replay the exact discussion, but I remember him clearly stating that brawl would use the Wiimote.

And again, the guy was there to give 10 Wiis during a 30 minute lived television show dedicated to the Wii. They did not send Jimmy the coffee boy to do that distribution. As far as I know, at that point in time, they were sure they were gonna use the Wiimote. Unless something dramatically changed, I don't think the game will force people to buy GC controllers or classic controllers.

[Silent Mike]

I really hope they include the Stage 1 (http://dl1.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/dl/2226/64feae/Starfox%20Assault%20Orchestra%20Original%20Soundtr ack%20(Nintendo%20Dream%20130)/02_audiotrack_02.mp3) song from Star Fox Assault. The game was mediocre but that song would work really well in Smash.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I don't think the game will force people to buy GC controllers or classic controllers.

and why not? They did something similar with Crystal Chronicles. http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=86

Besides, at the risk of sounding like a dick(which I don't mean to be), your info is dated and by someone in the production team. This info is hot and by someone on the DEV team. Even if they don't market the GCN controllers again, I'm pretty sure they'll be making it primarily for GCN controllers. Besides, most people who have a wii, more than likely have a GCN and people who get Brawl more than likely got into it from Melee, so they're not really forcing most people to go buy new controllers.

[Drack]

Disregarding the flame...

Here's a sincere question: If the Wiimote/Chuck is the control scheme of choice, what kind of input mapping could be effective and comfortable?

[The Author]

Isn't there a rule kinda like the Godwin's Law concerning the use of VGcats or Penny Arcade as part of a debate? It kinda feels like there should be one.

Edit... this is looking like a Benford's Law of Controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law_of_controversy) situation.

Anyway, I can assume that they could make the control schemes use motion sensing. Like move your controler quickly up for a jump, down for a jump down, left or right for a dodge/roll move...

[Theory of Nonexistence]

lol, the point of that was to show that Nintendo's done it before. If you wanted to play multiplayer on FF: CC, you had to go out and buy GCN - GBA cables and if you didn't have one, a GBA as well.

[Dunther]

If someone wants to download the Menu 1 theme:
http://dunther.altervista.org/music/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl_-_Menu_1.mp3

[Theory of Nonexistence]

haha, your playlist in your sig is filled with "menu1".

[Neonlare]

Returning just to post something about the musicians...

Some of the Musicians have vague information on the games they've composed for, whereas others have a much more defined amount. For example, ROMANCING SAGA Series, whereas others include names such as Golden Sun and Actraiser.

My hypothesis is that the names that are thrown in deliberately (if they have a game after or before) may be hinting to characters, example would be Actraiser (there was a 2nd game) and Mother 3 (why not say part of the Mother series? Unless this guy only did Mother 3 music). Another strange thing is the way they've CAPPED CHRONO TRIGGER/XENOGEARS, because thoose games aren't usually said with CAPITAL LETTERS. They might be gesting at something...

[JoeFu]

Awesome, thanks for the link. The menu song is freaking awesome and the rearranged one is awesome too.

Download didn't work...


Man... I can't wait to hear all the music in the game.


Rofl, time for people to make up crazy stuff because of the composers.... although Crono would be cool.

[Red Shadow]

if the composers were to determine the characters featured in game, i'd shudder to think of how they would explain the cho aniki series to an american audience

[dsx100]

Just saw the site this morning. The composer list is freaking awsome. I wish they could have included more music samples. The Night and Day thing for stages is alright too. Hopefully more info will come sometime before or at E3.

[The Author]

if the composers were to determine the characters featured in game, i'd shudder to think of how they would explain the cho aniki series to an american audience

...

I still wonder how the hell did Katamari Damaci made some kind of sense. I believe that people like Jack Thompson would have their heads implode ib the presence of anything cho aniki related.

[Strike911]

well with all the music talk, I hope I'm not the only one rooting for another game that supports mp3 playback... even if it was a really hard unlock it'd be worth it. WE NEED MORE SUPPORTED GAMES!

And....Assigning remixes to levels... that'd rock sir. You know it.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Hopefully more info will come sometime before or at E3.


Sakurai is supposedly updating the site everyday. Unfortunately, it's probably around the same time everyday...4 PM Japan Time

[CE]

Because guys in Canada know what the crackpot japanese developer wants.

To be honest, Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe are both huge jokes since if Nintendo of Japan says something, they can't do jack shit otherwise. They're nothing but giant translators.

[Cerrax]

I hope that this isn't the final version of the menu music or else this is teh lose. I thought they were going to have a fullorchestra and choir for the soundtrack? I mean the arrangement is very nice, but the synth orchestra hurts my ears. Real instruments plz.

[Strike911]

I hope that this isn't the final version of the menu music or else this is teh lose. I thought they were going to have a fullorchestra and choir for the soundtrack? I mean the arrangement is very nice, but the synth orchestra hurts my ears. Real instruments plz.

agreed. I mean, the old smash had almost all of its tracks as a real orchestra... what is it with Nintendo and its lack of orchestras. -_- Even crappy games now have good music utilizing real instruments. Nintendo always seems to be behind the curve in this regard. *cough* Twilight Princess *cough* For crying out loud, the only exception really was Starfox Assault, and it was the most mediocre of Nintendo games released in the last couple years.

Now if this is just some small theme, in the form of an extra, okay, I might be able to live with that, but the bar set by Melee really needs to make sure that the music is good. I really want some high quality tracks to listen to for as much as I play Smash.

Perhaps they're saving the good stuff for last. I mean, they do have some pretty good musicians on that list from games with great scores. Nintendo is staying tight lipped about everything from Smash Bros Brawl, so maybe we can assume they're showing pithy, non-exciting things first and ramping up for the better stuff. I mean, that first song they released was awesome.

Anyway... the arrangement is good. I just want to hear the smash bros version of the Metal gear solid theme. ^_^

[DJ Tempora]

I hope that this isn't the final version of the menu music or else this is teh lose. I thought they were going to have a fullorchestra and choir for the soundtrack? I mean the arrangement is very nice, but the synth orchestra hurts my ears. Real instruments plz.
Well, I have no actual evidence to back this up... but just on conjecture I'd say that they are going to orchestrate everything at the end, when all the music is composed. Orchestration is expensive, no need to hire the orchestra multiple times just for blog updates.

[EDIT] Oh, and in case you didn't know, it says on the blog that the majority of the music WILL be orchestrated. I don't know about "Menu 1," but there ya go.

[shpladoink]

Bongo Bill and I managed to get into the beta. I think it was only like the first 2500 or something that happened to check their buy channel at midnight yesterday. Pretty great fun so far.

[FuriousFure]

Yasunori Mitsuda
(PROCYON STUDIO CO., LTD.) CHRONO TRIGGER / XENOGEARS



please, someone explain that is nothing and what exactly this means before i get my hopes high(er).

[Dhsu]

What's there to explain? Yasunori Mitsuda, the owner of Procyon Studio Co., Ltd. and composer of Chrono Trigger and Xenogears, is composing something for Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

[Kureejii Lea]

Weird. I always thought he was a girl for some reason... maybe I got him confused with the girl who sings the opening in Phantasia? I have no idea.

That's Yoshida Yukari. However, Motoi Sakuraba's daughter (grandaughter?) Mio sings a track in Baten Kaitos Origins...

[DeathBySpoon]

As much as I would love for it to be true, I'm not getting my hopes up for Crono being a character. If he is though, his level could be ace; I'd love a Lavos time-warp style level where it went through the different time periods in one area.

Also, is it normal to have 36 composers for one game? That sounds like a lot, and I'm wondering if he means that songs made by these people will be used, not them actually composing for it. Even if each person only did one song, that's 36 tracks already; take out a few for menus and such and we have at least 30ish levels. That seems excessive, or am I mistaken?

[Dunther]

haha, your playlist in your sig is filled with "menu1".

Eehhehe I listened it only 3 times anyway :P

[The Author]

As much as I would love for it to be true, I'm not getting my hopes up for Crono being a character. If he is though, his level could be ace; I'd love a Lavos time-warp style level where it went through the different time periods in one area.

Also, is it normal to have 36 composers for one game? That sounds like a lot, and I'm wondering if he means that songs made by these people will be used, not them actually composing for it. Even if each person only did one song, that's 36 tracks already; take out a few for menus and such and we have at least 30ish levels. That seems excessive, or am I mistaken?

If you assume 20 characters, you will have at least 20 stage. Since you have an end credit song for each character, that alone is 40 songs. You might have extra stages (like the final destination stage and the event stages) that's about 5 stages, and 5 songs.

You have the main theme, the menu theme, the "trophy room" theme, and the minigame theme. 4 songs.

Easily 49 songs with 20 charaters and 25 levels.

Since this seems to be an all-star game, it could be conceivable to have 1 composer from a specific series to at least be credited for the character's theme, and at the most be part of the team that composes the new version for SSBB.

[The Mutericator]

That's Yoshida Yukari. However, Motoi Sakuraba's daughter (grandaughter?) Mio sings a track in Baten Kaitos Origins...

Nah, I never played BTO, so I guess I must have gotten confused with Yoshida. My mistake.

[Bigfoot]

Wow, that musician list is very impressive.

[Final_metroid]

Huge disappointment, took away all game information. Its just a ploy to restate already known information with maybe 1 or 2 new things in a daily fashion to keep crazed fans satisfied. Composer list doesn't mean anything, does not equate to remixed themes, and therefore does not equate to inclusion of characters either. Only remotely interesting feature was "how to play" section. I'd rather new gameplay information come online than all this garbage.

[G_D]

For those of you wondering if "Menu 1" is a final arrangement for Brawl, READ!

Here on Smash Bros. Dojo, we will share that music with you through occasional trial listening. Since this is my first post, I thought I would give you an arrangement of the song you probably heard most often in Super Smash Bros. Melee, Menu 1.
Motoi Sakuraba headed up that arrangement!
"Menu 1" Source: Super Smash Bros. Melee (1:22)
I'm surprised you didn't recognize it, anyway. That's very sad. And you consider yourselves Smash players...

[Bigfoot]

Huge disappointment, took away all game information. Its just a ploy to restate already known information with maybe 1 or 2 new things in a daily fashion to keep crazed fans satisfied. Composer list doesn't mean anything, does not equate to remixed themes, and therefore does not equate to inclusion of characters either. Only remotely interesting feature was "how to play" section. I'd rather new gameplay information come online than all this garbage.

Wow.

I'm sure it'll all come in good time. Chill out.

[ILLiterate]

Masafumi Takada - killer7 / GOD HAND
Masato Kouda - Monster Hunter / Devil May Cry
Michiko Naruke - Wild Arms series
Tomoko Sasaki (TOKIOHEIDI) - NiGHTS
Yasunori Mitsuda - CHRONO TRIGGER / XENOGEARS
Yuzo Koshiro (ANCIENT) - ActRaiser / Street of Rage
So right now, I'm at the shitting my pants part of excitment for this game because of possible characters from Streets of Rage, NiGHTS(probably for sure, since the game is going to be on the Wii), Wild Arms, God Hand and Devil May Cry. Not to mention just the music that these people make is insanely epic

So yeah A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ would read blog again

[JoeFu]

Wow you guys need to calm down. I don't think any of those people from your wanted list will ever be in the game. Just because they are arranging music doesn't mean a character will be in the game. Sakurai said like 3 3rd party people. Also, a requirement was that they had to be on a Nintendo system so yeah... and NiGHTS guy would be weird, I'd rather have Sonic than "it".


I'm just happy that we will be getting info daily, be it old or new.

[mattycat900]

yeah, its unlikely that anyone of these composers are making songs based on their game. They are just making songs based on the source material of old nintendo games and past smashes as well as a few new additions with new 3rd party characters and odds and ends so we will definitly not see anything that has not appeared on a nintendo system in brawl to repeat what was stated before.

Despite this, this is a crazy amount of composers and i cant wait to see what kind of amazing soundtrack they can compile.

[megadave]

You folks really do like to dream. If I see all of these non-Nintendo characters appear, then I'll laugh my ass off. Until then, I'll be laughing at you. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Streets of Rage? HAHAHAHHAHAH.

Chrono? HAHAHAHAH FANBOY HAHAHA.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

yes! Uematsu! Maybe they'll put Cloud or Sephiroth in the game! :D

[Dark Chocobo]

You folks really do like to dream. If I see all of these non-Nintendo characters appear, then I'll laugh my ass off. Until then, I'll be laughing at you. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Streets of Rage? HAHAHAHHAHAH.

Chrono? HAHAHAHAH FANBOY HAHAHA.

Because, you know, dreaming is such a useless pastime.

But I'm sure you've never wished for anything in your life ever.

[The Mutericator]

Because guys in Canada know what the crackpot japanese developer wants.

To be honest, Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe are both huge jokes since if Nintendo of Japan says something, they can't do jack shit otherwise. They're nothing but giant translators.

And that's why we're developing the Metroid Prime games over here, amirite?

They aren't just translators, please try again.

agreed. I mean, the old smash had almost all of its tracks as a real orchestra... what is it with Nintendo and its lack of orchestras. -_- Even crappy games now have good music utilizing real instruments. Nintendo always seems to be behind the curve in this regard. *cough* Twilight Princess *cough* For crying out loud, the only exception really was Starfox Assault, and it was the most mediocre of Nintendo games released in the last couple years.

Namco made Starfox Assault, actually. xD

Bongo Bill and I managed to get into the beta. I think it was only like the first 2500 or something that happened to check their buy channel at midnight yesterday. Pretty great fun so far.

Huh?

Huge disappointment, took away all game information. Its just a ploy to restate already known information with maybe 1 or 2 new things in a daily fashion to keep crazed fans satisfied. Composer list doesn't mean anything, does not equate to remixed themes, and therefore does not equate to inclusion of characters either. Only remotely interesting feature was "how to play" section. I'd rather new gameplay information come online than all this garbage.

Clearly you don't understand how awesome the composer list is.

[KakTheInfected]

I wouldn't say it's unlikely any of these characters *could* be in. I mean, hell...Snake is in. Even though Kojima wanted him, he's still probably the most unlikely third party character anyone would have expected tos how up.

[Scufo]

I wouldn't say it's unlikely any of these characters *could* be in. I mean, hell...Snake is in. Even though Kojima wanted him, he's still probably the most unlikely third party character anyone would have expected tos how up.
But regardless, characters can't be included unless they were on a Nintendo system at one point. So that rules out Devil May Cry, Streets of Rage...probably some others but I'm too lazy to check.

Although I could see NiGHTS happen, if only to promote the upcoming Wii release.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Although I could see NiGHTS happen, if only to promote the upcoming Wii release.


NiGHTS had a cameo in Sonic Adventure which was released on the GCN.

[Antipode]

it is called menu 1
even if it plays in that stage i would assume a song called menu 1 is menu music
maybe

I was always under the impression that the actual menu music for brawl was the music heard in the background of the Nintendo World trailer from Nov 06. I think it's called Menu 1 just because it's obviously a remix of the Melee menu theme. Still, if I'm right then it is strange that they didn't call it "Battlefield" or something.

[G_D]

I was always under the impression that the actual menu music for brawl was the music heard in the background of the Nintendo World trailer from Nov 06. I think it's called Menu 1 just because it's obviously a remix of the Melee menu theme. Still, if I'm right then it is strange that they didn't call it "Battlefield" or something.

^ Basically that's what I was getting at in my post a page back. Sakurai even STATES that it is an arrangement of the Melee menu theme, and there is no mention of it being in SSBB. Don't go making too many assumptions about this song; I suspect it's just teaser material.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Man, it sucks to have no life. I'm probably going to up until 2 am again waiting for the page to update...

Of course they're probably only going to put in Zero Suit Samus, Wario, Pit, Meta Knight, Snake, Pikachu, Link, Mario, and Kirby in the character section and leave it at that.

[ILLiterate]

But regardless, characters can't be included unless they were on a Nintendo system at one point. So that rules out Devil May Cry, Streets of Rage...probably some others but I'm too lazy to check.

Although I could see NiGHTS happen, if only to promote the upcoming Wii release.
Streets of Rage is on the virtual console, NiGHTs will be on the Wii in the future

[Antipode]

^ Basically that's what I was getting at in my post a page back. Sakurai even STATES that it is an arrangement of the Melee menu theme, and there is no mention of it being in SSBB. Don't go making too many assumptions about this song; I suspect it's just teaser material.

Ok, once again, the site says "The song called Menu 1 found under the topic The Musicians plays on [the Battlefield stage]." This quote is under the "stages" section. So yes, it is in fact in the game, and like I say, I just don't think it's the menu theme because it's being used in a stage already. Again, I think the menu theme for Brawl is probably the music played in the background of the Nintendo World trailer - it just sounds like what they'd probably use, and it features that same "main theme" that Uematsu composed.

[Strike911]

okay, I've been reading above that people are saying the site'll get updated daily? Where that come from? I'm merely curious, not trying to debunk anything.

EDIT: HAHAHAHAHA RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE FREAKIN' SITE HAHAHA n/m

woo....

btw, Antipode, cool album preview you got there. :)

/Offtopic

[KakTheInfected]

Site updated with Mario and Link profiles. It'll certainly be interesting to see what they throw up there every weekday.

[Critical Hit]

Site updated with Mario and Link profiles. It'll certainly be interesting to see what they throw up there every weekday.

I was just about to post this myself. It looks like they may actually keep up with the daily updates, which is pretty nice, especially, when they run out of old info to post, and we might actually see some new stuff. Here's to hoping.

[Strike911]

Cool stuff.

Is link crouching and aiming with his bow in that last pic? Hmmm!

I really like the way the lighting is set in this game. Looks really nice. ^_^

[KWarp]

When they run out of old information to post, they stop posting information. :?

Was really hoping for a new trailer...

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Was really hoping for a new trailer...

in time...

but, boy, was I wrong. It was even worse than I said it was going to be lol. They're going to drag this out as looooooooooooooooooong as they can...

[watkinzez]

Dammit, I wish more Mario games would adopt the denim overalls look.

[The Author]

Well, maybe they dont wanna spoil too much of the game. I hate buying a game and knowing everything there is to know about it

[Ninja-san]

Will Link still have his bombs?

[Dark Chocobo]

I would assume so, I doubt they'd remove them.

Also, we've only got a few more days of known info before they have to do new stuff.

We've got...what, 6 more character profiles and one more known stage? At most, we should get another week of known stuff before the new updates begin.

[Murmeli Walan]

I'm just glad there are finally steady updates and info coming in. Hell, it could just be pictures of Sakurai's ass, and I'd still be glad for the update.

Also, looks like every weeknight at 11 will be the blog updates.

[SwordBreaker]

Man...I'd never thought I'd see the day all these composers come under one roof. Awesome, simply awesome. It's almost as if the SSBB soundtrack is some sort of collaborative remixing project ala OC Remix.

[TheCatPhysician]

"Will Link still have his bombs?"

"I would assume so, I doubt they'd remove them."

I think he was wondering because it looks like Link can crouch and shoot arrows, which going by Melee's controls would mean you hold down and press B, which is what you press for bombs. I'm really curious to see what they're doing with crouching, with all this crouchwalking and everything.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Well, maybe they dont wanna spoil too much of the game. I hate buying a game and knowing everything there is to know about it

I doubt they'd put in any secret unlockable things. I just want to know the starting lineup of characters.

[Dhsu]

"Will Link still have his bombs?"

"I would assume so, I doubt they'd remove them."

I think he was wondering because it looks like Link can crouch and shoot arrows, which going by Melee's controls would mean you hold down and press B, which is what you press for bombs. I'm really curious to see what they're doing with crouching, with all this crouchwalking and everything.
Most likely crouching will be a separate button, for example X on the GameCube controller.

[The Author]

I doubt they'd put in any secret unlockable things. I just want to know the starting lineup of characters.

Mario
Pikachu
Samus
Kirby
Link
Fox

And possibly Pit, Metaknight, Wario, and Snake.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Mario
Pikachu
Samus
Kirby
Link
Fox

And possibly Pit, Metaknight, Wario, and Snake.

Yeah, and that's only 10. Unless they want to take a step back from melee, there's going to be at least 12. Well, not necessarily, but it makes a lot of sense.

[JoeFu]

I remembering Sakurai saying that all the third party guys have to be unlocked. I think that the originals from SSB will be the first guys you can use and unlock.

[Dhsu]

Unless you find Jill, the master of unlocking.

[Neo Samus]

I actually like the arrangement of Menu 1 done by Motoi Sakuraba. It may not be orchestrated but its still got that charm to it.

[Raziellink]

Most likely crouching will be a separate button, for example X on the GameCube controller.

But then you wouldn't be able to get a bomb. You'll have to hold X and then press the B button. Unless it's a toggle, it could get a bit tricky.

[dsx100]

I love the way link looks in this game. The captured his Twilight Princesses design perfectly. Mario looks really good as well. So far this game looks like it is going to have some nice lighting and animation. Hopefully they can release running smoothly at 60 fps throughout.

[Ninja-san]

"Will Link still have his bombs?"

"I would assume so, I doubt they'd remove them."

I think he was wondering because it looks like Link can crouch and shoot arrows, which going by Melee's controls would mean you hold down and press B, which is what you press for bombs. I'm really curious to see what they're doing with crouching, with all this crouchwalking and everything.

Acutally Its just the bombs. Im a big bomb freak.
Also i hope they didnt take the sheild power out. I piss my freind alot just stopping in front of him so the sheild knocks it out.

[megadave]

I love the way link looks in this game. The captured his Twilight Princesses design perfectly. Mario looks really good as well. So far this game looks like it is going to have some nice lighting and animation. Hopefully they can release running smoothly at 60 fps throughout.

The graphics look really good from what I've seen. Definitely a jump over the last Smash Brothers. But they will look truly good if it holds 60 fps.

I like the background in the sky stage. Really pretty. I think that this game will have more of an 'epic' feel and less of a campy feel as compared to the last few Smash Brothers.

[!Nekko!]

"Will Link still have his bombs?"

"I would assume so, I doubt they'd remove them."

I think he was wondering because it looks like Link can crouch and shoot arrows, which going by Melee's controls would mean you hold down and press B, which is what you press for bombs. I'm really curious to see what they're doing with crouching, with all this crouchwalking and everything.

Well, Up is jump, but you can still do up+button attacks without too much problem. I don't see why being able to crouch/crouch walk would be different. I guess you'll have to get used to quickly hitting down+B instead of holding it down.

[Strike911]

Perhaps you can hold B to initiate the arrow pull. Then you can adjust his stance with up and down, possibly and optionally, the angle with left and right?

That would be simple and easy...

or even possibly simpler, maybe you'll have "Smash attacks" for your special moves... Down+B=bomb, downward Smash+B=crouching arrow? Meh, I don't know how that would work.

Perhaps that's just Links full animation now when he's pulled back his arrow as far as it can go? *shrugs*

Hell, it could just be pictures of Sakurai's ass...

hehe. You sir have an idea for the best Smash Bros Brawl level ever...

no seriously... EVER.

[Ciel]

I actually like the arrangement of Menu 1 done by Motoi Sakuraba. It may not be orchestrated but its still got that charm to it.

I doubt most people would be able to tell the difference anyway, if they didn't already know.

[Arek the Absolute]

Sorry, but I am disappointed with it. So many epic artists and THAT is what they come up with? I know it was just Motoi Sakuraba and Hirokazu Ando that made it, but come the fuck on. It could be way more epic than what it is.

[Antipode]

So I want this damn game. The hype has a grip around my throat. I'm 90% sure they'll wind up probably including Waluigi (since they've got Wario), and I'd love to see them include Samurai Goroh. Also, a feature I'd REALLY like to see is heavy customization of costumes - have like, different outfit pieces to choose from and all that, and then also let you change the color of each part. Stuff like that. Just having different color schemes for the one outfit would be lame in this, particularly online where it would be nice to have some kind of personal touches (think the icon in Mario Kart DS, things like that).
And yeah Arek, I agree that the theme they have up there didn't really impress me...I don't know quite what it was about it. Partially the arrangement and the instruments too. I hope they fix it up a bit. The remake of that theme that played in Final Destination in Melee was much better, I thought.

Also,
btw, Antipode, cool album preview you got there. :)
Thanks, man! :-D

[anthonium]

Hmm the character model for Link doesn't seem to be the one from TP as far as face and hair goes. Doesn't the link in TP have brown hair and the face look a bit more human like? Anyway not a big deal, just noticing.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Hmm the character model for Link doesn't seem to be the one from TP as far as face and hair goes. Doesn't the link in TP have brown hair and the face look a bit more human like? Anyway not a big deal, just noticing.

Not really...

http://wiimedia.gamespy.com/wii/image/article/745/745573/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-20061113011308668.jpg

I think the lighting makes it look browner. If you look at the art and stuff (not gameplay) you'll see it's pretty blonde. And what do you mean more human?

The shield is what gets me. The Brawl version of it just seems to pop out, when the TP one doesn't as much. If you look close enough it looks about the same but it's much more accentuated in Brawl.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Awesome! Wasn't expecting anything new this early, but...

GOOEY BOMB!

Apparently it's a motion sensor bomb that can stick to people. If you run into/next to someone it will be transferred to them and explode...pretty sweet stuff. I want one.

[KakTheInfected]

That's pretty awesome. I wonder how you get it off other than transferring it to another person.

[atmuh]

sounds like stickin a grenade to me

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Also, is it just me or does it seem like the characters interact with each other more. Like, they look almost directly at the character they're attacking. In that second picture of the Gooey Bomb entry, Mario is looking back as he's running away and in the fourth one, mario looks all dejected. I wonder if that's going to be part of gameplay or if they're just images.

[Strike911]

i would imagine the looking at the closest character thing is feasible. 3D Fighting games have done that for years... it'll be a welcome addition to Smash's look. I had yet to notice it, so thanks for mentioning!

Smash bros Melee had a low level of experessions from the characters. It looks like they're really expanding on the animations. The only thing is I doubt we'll ever really notice them too much in game. They're hella sweet though.

gooey bomb!! Sounds fun, like a really lethal hot potato... I can imagine a ton of neat scenarios with that item...

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I'm also starting to see a pattern in these updates. I think they're trying to get some info on every aspect of the game in first so I'm expecting some news on game modes tomorrow.

[mister_pup]

In that second picture of the Gooey Bomb entry, Mario is looking back as he's running away

this picture is hilarious to me for some reason. mario has this look like he's thinking, "ha, what you gonna do now, bitch?" as he's running off.

Wario got stuck by Mario.

[Arek the Absolute]

halo weapons meets smashbros

[KakTheInfected]

halo weapons meets smashbros

Master Chief confirmed.

[SwordBreaker]

Love that Gooey bomb. An innovative and original weapon for Brawl. I wonder which game is it inspired from? It does look a bit like Morpheel/Amoeba from the Zelda series, and I do remember "Gooey" being Kirby's sidekick in Dreamland 3 for SNES.

[Arek the Absolute]

original - no
innovative - so so

which game is it inspired from? anything that uses proxy mines and/or halo

[Tael]

which game is it inspired from? anything that uses proxy mines and/or haloShadow Warrior had sticky bombs, Perfect Dark's mines stuck to people, and Red Faction's remote charge could be attached to people. The idea was common before Halo made it famous.

[Arek the Absolute]

wow, you did a great job on noticing that i said anything that uses proxy mines which was BEFORE the halo remark
nice selective reading there buddy

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I love the way the thing looks. It doesn't look like a glitchy ball inside of Wario (like in Melee, if you got two characters really close, how they're inside each other.) It looks like there's actually something there.

[Tael]

wow, you did a great job on noticing that i said anything that uses proxy mines which was BEFORE the halo remark
nice selective reading there buddyExcept I gave examples that weren't simply proximity mines. Perfect Dark had timed and remote mines that stuck, and Red Faction's remote charge was remotely-detonated.

[Ninja-san]

The Gooey bomb looks really distrubing to me...

[!Nekko!]

I wonder if they will have the character's follow each other's movements with their heads (kinda like Mario looking back). Just an aesthetic detail, but I would think it would add a little more life to the fighters.

[Sir_NutS]

nice new item. I can see myself kamikazing into players with high damage after some of the sticky-bombed my ass. Fun times.

[Mewtation]

halo weapons meets smashbros
Oh, come on, Halo totally ripped Smash Bros's Beam Sword off with the Plasma Sword.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Oh, come on, Halo totally ripped Smash Bros's Beam Sword off with the Plasma Sword.

That was a joke, right? I mean, since both ripped off star wars?

[!Nekko!]

Quit griping about who took what from where and think of the possibilities!

I could see this goo bomb being a fun game of keep away. I remember an item in Gauntlet Legends where you became IT and it was just a game of tag with the other players. I don't think it actually did anything, but it was pretty entertaining being announced who was it. I'm a pretty reckless and suicidal player when I play smash, so I could see myself having a LOT of fun with this.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Quit griping about who took what from where and think of the possibilities!


You could play terrorist with it. Stick one on yourself and enter any large well-known landmark and/or public building screaming "JIHAD AMERICA".

[Dark Chocobo]

You could play terrorist with it. Stick one on yourself and enter any large well-known landmark and/or public building screaming "JIHAD AMERICA".

Considering I used to do that with standard bob-ombs, I now have a new toy to play with.

Or imagine throwing it at someone trying to reach the edge.

"I made it! Hey, what's that thing stuck to BLAM!! *death sound*"

[atmuh]

sounds like stickin a grenade to me

halo weapons meets smashbros

i said it first
silly

[Penfold]

Cool. I'm enjoying this daily update thing, even when they are pretty small updates.

So after playing many an hour of Punch-Out!!, I decided I'd really like to at least see a cameo of Little Mac in Brawl (in the background of a stage would even be cool).

[Geoffrey Taucer]

If their "daily updates" consist of telling us about 1 item or character each day, they could drag it out pretty long without telling us anything interesting.

[atmuh]

If their "daily updates" consist of telling us about 1 item or character each day, they could drag it out pretty long without telling us anything interesting.

you had doubt that would happen?

[Mewtation]

That was a joke, right? I mean, since both ripped off star wars?
Ahaha, totally.

[linkspast]

everything is a starwars ripoff.

[Wipomatic]

everything is a starwars ripoff.

Well Star Wars is just a "The Hidden Fortress" rip off.

[Neo Samus]

They'll give a bunch of small updates then a big one every now and then......well at least I hope that's what they do.

[megadave]

Everything is a ripoff of something. Every thing.

[!Nekko!]

I'm a ripoff of my parents.

[Neo Samus]

I'm a ripoff of my parents.



LOL!!! I got a kick out of that one.

[Ferret]

Don't forget hidden characters, which they probably WON'T tell us about, and confirmed third-party characters, which they probably will tell us about (besides Snake and Pit, who I'm ambiguous on being a third-party character).

*hits fingers in frustration, hits backspace a dozen times in this post alone.*

Also, stages and items and why the hell are they introducing a sticky bomb? Why not just supply an item that dims the screen and drops a few proximity mines in random places on the stage?

[Penfold]

Pit, who I'm ambiguous on being a third-party character

He's actually 1st party, just to clarify for you ;-).

[Red Shadow]

because youre not in charge of this game's production, that's why

[The Mutericator]

Don't forget hidden characters, which they probably WON'T tell us about, and confirmed third-party characters, which they probably will tell us about (besides Snake and Pit, who I'm ambiguous on being a third-party character).

*hits fingers in frustration, hits backspace a dozen times in this post alone.*

Also, stages and items and why the hell are they introducing a sticky bomb? Why not just supply an item that dims the screen and drops a few proximity mines in random places on the stage?

And why can't you have both?

[Arek the Absolute]

I'm a ripoff of my parents.

A cheap one at that.

<3

[Antipode]

I need to see third party characters. I need them now.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I need to see third party characters. I need them now.

ten characters

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I need to see third party characters. I need them now.

thirded lol

[The Mutericator]

I need to see third party characters. I need them now.
Fourth'd for great justice.

[Antipode]

I feel so used...

[KakTheInfected]

Updated with Pit info...omg!!!

I actually don't care about Pit. I liked the game but meh to the character himself...

[Inimitable]

I am so tired of these tiny, tiny screenshots. Come on.

[The Author]

Updated with Pit info...omg!!!

I actually don't care about Pit. I liked the game but meh to the character himself...

If you actually read Pit's info, you'll get a clue that the gameplay may have somewhat changed:


"The arrows Pit's bow unleashes shoot out like beams of light. Players can control the curves of their trajectories."

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I'm actually glad I fell asleep last night instead of staying up for that update...incredibly useless...except the trajectory thing. But that's not worth staying up for.

[The Mutericator]

I'm actually glad I fell asleep last night instead of staying up for that update...incredibly useless...except the trajectory thing. But that's not worth staying up for.

I just get up every morning and look at it then.

[atmuh]

If you actually read Pit's info, you'll get a clue that the gameplay may have somewhat changed:


"The arrows Pit's bow unleashes shoot out like beams of light. Players can control the curves of their trajectories."

uh like in melee when you could curve the missiles from samus or links boomerang?

[anthonium]

I'm seriously not impressed by the website. I know they can't put a lot of info for the game but still the site feels amateurish to me and it seems as if a 10yr old wrote the descriptions.

[The Author]

I'm seriously not impressed by the website. I know they can't put a lot of info for the game but still the site feels amateurish to me and it seems as if a 10yr old wrote the descriptions.

Maybe its because they are written by a japanese guy...

[Ninja-san]

Staring at Pit's design makes me wish they used the design from the Trophy of him from Melee.

[Imagery]

Maybe its because they are written by a japanese guy...

Or because they are written to be friendly to both young and old, like everything else Wii-related.

[Thalzon]

Staring at Pit's design makes me wish they used the design from the Trophy of him from Melee.

I bet it's 'cause you wanted to see him fight in his white underoos.

[Raziellink]

Maybe its because they are written by a japanese guy...

Which actually makes it pretty impressive. Besides, i kinda think it's funny.

[The Author]

He is so excited, and it does not help that I picture Hiro Nokamura (from Heroes) when I see a japanese guy writing these posts.

[Wipomatic]

Staring at Pit's design makes me wish they used the design from the Trophy of him from Melee.

I actually think the exact opposite. I hated the way he looked on that trophy and I'm glad they changed him.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Is today Friday or Saturday in Japan? Cuz the site says "weekdays" so I don't want to keep looking for it if there's not an update :p

[KakTheInfected]

Saturday, so don't expect an update.

[atmuh]

Is today Friday or Saturday in Japan? Cuz the site says "weekdays" so I don't want to keep looking for it if there's not an update :p

why dont you wait a week or two
forget about it
and then check the site
it will seem like there is a lot of info!

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Because I can't forget about it... :(

[ILLiterate]

Got a tournament today at Alameda CA (I'm helping run the brackets), I'll post the results when I come back

[Wipomatic]

I wonder... Do you think Nintendo might release more stages or items or something through the shop channel once Brawl is released?

[KakTheInfected]

I doubt Nintendo has even figured out how to patch actual games on the Wii yet, so I'll say no...but I'm an ass so who knows.

[friendlyHunter]

I am so tired of these tiny, tiny screenshots. Come on.

If you click on a tiny, tiny screenshot it'll show you a tiny screenshot. Try it, it works.


My theory about the website: once they get at least one thing in each category, stuff will start to flow in quicker. First he'll post few more minor things like the gooey bomb - they'll say little about specific details, but they'll make subtle statements like "We're throwing out the old items that suck and adding good new ones that make for a fun and balanced game". Then he's gonna "reveal" all the characters we already know about, then others from Melee like Bowser and Zelda, and THEN any third party characters. I'm optimistic about Sonic myself, but Megaman just doesn't seem too likely right now :(

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I hope they DON'T reveal any unlockable/secret characters. That would kind of ruin the fun of playing the game. I'd only like to know the new starting lineup characters. I mean, if they do reveal them, so be it but I'd prefer they didn't :/

[Hum4n After All]

Snake lawl.
Snake:"How did I uh jump twice?! I uh...double jumped!"

[atmuh]

I wonder... Do you think Nintendo might release more stages or items or something through the shop channel once Brawl is released?

hahahahaha

nintendo: wiiconect24 youll get tons of free content
reality: NOTHING

[Wipomatic]

Is there any way to download the Nintendo World trailer from the site? All the gametrailers versions are crappy.

[KakTheInfected]

IGN has it.

[The Mutericator]

hahahahaha

nintendo: wiiconect24 youll get tons of free content
reality: NOTHING

Corruption is getting extra stages and suits, when it comes out.

We've known that for a while now.

[Wipomatic]

IGN has it.

Awesome, thanks.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

Updated with Pit's special moves, which we already knew from the trailers. He can shoot his arrows and curve the arrow's trajectory much like Zelda's "Din's Fire" it looks like. Also he has "Wings of Icarus" that allows him multiple jumps, like Kirby and Jigglypuff.

However...I don't care much for Pit. GIMME ZERO SUIT SAMUS!

[KakTheInfected]

Jeez, someone sure is eager to run a batch.

[Ninja-san]

Pit's Link with wings...

[The Author]

Pits Link with wings...

And two swords.

No shield.

No bombs.

No boomerang.

A possible multiple jump/glide


Yeah, I see the resemblance. He's also Marth and Roy with wings.

[Ninja-san]

Marth and Roy didnt have projectories. Link's arrows tho have the same capabilites. I don't know i just really hate Pit and his design and feel like hes a leftover character combined with old melee attacks. Nothing New

[Dexie]

Marth and Roy didnt have projectories. Link's arrows tho have the same capabilites. I don't know i just really hate Pit and his design and feel like hes a leftover character combined with old melee attacks. Nothing New


Link's arrows can curve upwards? :<

[The Author]

Link's arrows can curve upwards? :<

OMG characters attack using the same patterns. they are all copies of mario...

Wait until you see him in action. Even clone characters can be fundamentally different. Do I need to point out Gannondorf?

[Dexie]

OMG characters attack using the same patterns. they are all copies of mario...


Mario's just a Ryu clone, anyway. XD

[Soma]

Mario's just a Ryu clone, anyway. XD

I was just thinking, they should put Vectorman in Brawl, Sonic's probably in so why not?

[The Author]

Sheng Long is gonna be in SSBB

[Theory of Nonexistence]

I'm looking forward to playing as Pacman, seeing as he's definitely in.

[anthonium]

Meh I'm tired of this lil bits of info on the site. I'll check it at the end of a month....or a week. One of those.

[The Author]

SSBB Character rooster.

Yes, this is speculation.

Those we know are in:

Mario
Kirby
Snake
Link
Fox
Samus
Pikachu
Pit
Metaknight
Wario

Out of those, we also know that some had ennemies that were in the previous installements:

Bowser
Gannondorf

Out of the original list, we can see Pikachu still being in. We can also assume Jigglypuff will be left in due to his status as a twice included "joke" character.

So far. we have 10 confirmed and 3 possible.

Mario
Kirby
Snake
Link
Fox
Samus
Pikachu
Pit
Metaknight
Wario
Bowser
Gannondorf
Jigglypuff


You can add to your list, but you need to have a "logical" reason to do so.

[Theory of Nonexistence]

So we're back to character speculation...

[The Author]

So we're back to character speculation...

Ya got something better to do?

[Imagery]

SSBB Character rooster

Cock-a-doodle-doo!

[Thalzon]

I imagine Ness, Captain Falcon, Luigi and Donkey Kong are also returning. They were in both previous games as well. Mewtwo returning seems like a safe bet, as does Peach and Zelda.

[Sir_NutS]

deja vu! lol this thread is running around circles. I hope Nintendo releases substantive information before all fans go nuts.

[Thalzon]

They're about a year too late for that.

[The Author]

deja vu! lol this thread is running around circles. I hope Nintendo releases substantive information before all fans go nuts.

...

Sanity has not been seen in quite a while here.

[Wipomatic]

I imagine Ness, Captain Falcon, Luigi and Donkey Kong are also returning. They were in both previous games as well. Mewtwo returning seems like a safe bet, as does Peach and Zelda.

I'd say that Yoshi is almost certainly returning as his stage is clearly in the trailers.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Dunno about Mewtwo returning, but I agree that it's a safe bet that Yoshi, Zelda, and Peach are returning.

[Rambo]

Cock-a-doodle-doo!

Heh... I had a chuckle. :smile:

[Trash]

Wutt about donkay?

[Chuckles]

Dunno about Mewtwo returning, but I agree that it's a safe bet that Yoshi, Zelda, and Peach are returning.

Yeah, although it would be nice if they didn't make yoshi fodder for all the good players this time around. Nothing more satisfying in SMB 64 than pooping players off the edge in an egg.

[Ray Falling]

Yeah, although it would be nice if they didn't make yoshi fodder for all the good players this time around. Nothing more satisfying in SMB 64 than pooping players off the edge in an egg.

Launching 30 Yoshis out of the screen within 10 seconds as Samus in SSB 64 is much more satisfying than that ;)

[HideousBeing]

We can almost certainly expect Luigi's return. He was a hidden character on both SSB games, and will likely be hidden on Brawl as well. I mean, how can you have Mario without Luigi? But didn't Sakurai say something about clones in Brawl?

[Theory of Nonexistence]

deja vu! lol this thread is running around circles.

That's what I'm saying. Character speculation can be found about 100 pages ago...
Pretty much the only thing new to talk about is the daily Sakurai updates. Or just let the thread idle. Better than repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

[atmuh]

That's what I'm saying. Character speculation can be found about 100 pages ago...
Pretty much the only thing new to talk about is the daily Sakurai updates. Or just let the thread idle. Better than repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

the updates are utter garbage
honestly its been said that it seems to be written by a five year old and that is quite true

"He's falling! Danger! ...But don't worry.
The "Wings of Icarus" allow Pit to fly freely through the sky!

In actuality, though, Pit is an angel who cannot ordinarily fly.
After a while, he will fall, so be careful."

[Blake]

lol info dump

[Theory of Nonexistence]

the updates are utter garbage


Didn't say they were good, just that it was pretty much the only thing to talk about. Fortunately, I was wrong...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Release Date – 11/12/2007

Unfortunately, Smash Bros. only featured one playable level, which is what you’re seeing in most of the screenshots. However, there was a demonstration of the game’s Wi-Fi abilities and one new character shown. As you’ve seen, the game looks stunning and in certain instances plays like a dream. There are two available control methods, “Classic” and “Brawl.” Classic utilizes either a Gamecube controller or the Classic controller and plays much like previous entries in the series. Brawl utilizes the Wii Remote and Nunchuk attachment. Various attacks can be increased in strength by moving the Wii Remote in the direction of the attack. You can also add an extra jump when pressing up on the control stick and moving your Remote upwards. Unfortunately, these maneuvers felt tacked on.

Using the motion sensor still just doesn't sound appealing to me.

[Imagery]

Motion sensing control has been confirmed not to be for the main gameplay. That article's nothing more than phony guesswork.