Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[supremespleen]

Ya know what would really surprise me? If they'd say at the end of the whole show: "oh and btw, you can pick up Smash Bros. Brawl in stores tomorrow..."

0_0; It'll never happen, but I want someone to pull a stunt like that at least once in my lifetime.yeah except for the part where i wouldn't have money saved up :o

[Moseph]

I know he's a fan favorite many want in, but I still have trouble seeing Ridley as a playable character in this. As an assist trophy sure, anything's possible there but as a playable it just seems kind of hard to imagine. Not saying I hate him or anything like that, I don't. And if he were in there I wouldn't complain either but I just have trouble seeing him work as a playable.


I wonder if he'd still be mega-vulnerable to missiles . . .

[HideousBeing]

I just want a release date. I don't want any info on unlockable characters or stuff like that. I want it to be a surprise to me, lol.
Ditto. I am on smashboards.com often now, but I will stop going on until I've unlocked all the characters and stages after the games release. Here too, I guess. Discussing the new unlockables will be the thing to do after Brawl's release.

[Strike911]

e3 occurs this week. I wonder if we'll see an explosion of info in the next few days.

[ThE Sa-X]

I dont think the updates will be any different. However I think after E3, next week, all the revealed info for brawl will be posted on the site.

[friendlyHunter]

In E3 2007, Brawl was beginning

What happen?
Somebody set up us the Brawl.
We get signal.
What!
Main website turn on.
It's you!!

Sakurai:
How are you gentlemen!!
All your updates are belong to us.

What you say!!

Sakurai:
You have no chance to survive until release time.
Ha Ha Ha Ha....

[Ciel]

In E3 2007, Brawl was beginning

What happen?
Somebody set up us the Brawl.
We get signal.
What!
Main website turn on.
It's you!!

Sakurai:
How are you gentlemen!!
All your updates are belong to us.

What you say!!

Sakurai:
You have no chance to survive until release time.
Ha Ha Ha Ha....

That dialogue applies to everything.

[JackKieser]

Man, it's already ten after... what's keeping Sakurai?

--Jack Kieser

[Dopple Boppler]

Hee ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya!

[FuriousFure]

Hee ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya!


This guy needs to calm down.

yeah and metaknight is not the only one it seems... wow.

[FuriousFure]

Hee ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya!


This guy needs to calm down.

yeah and metaknight is not the only one that needs to it seems... wow.

[Ero Elohim]

Ya know what would really surprise me? If they'd say at the end of the whole show: "oh and btw, you can pick up Smash Bros. Brawl in stores tomorrow..."

0_0; It'll never happen, but I want someone to pull a stunt like that at least once in my lifetime.

Unless you're 12 years old or younger, that did happen in your lifetime.

Sega Saturn's "surprise" launch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_saturn#North_America)

[Raziellink]

In E3 2007, Brawl was beginning

What happen?
Somebody set up us the Brawl.
We get signal.
What!
Main website turn on.
It's you!!

Sakurai:
How are you gentlemen!!
All your updates are belong to us.

What you say!!

Sakurai:
You have no chance to survive until release time.
Ha Ha Ha Ha....


Awesome!


tencharacterlimit

[Ray Falling]

Unless you're 12 years old or younger, that did happen in your lifetime.

Sega Saturn's "surprise" launch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_saturn#North_America)

Alright, let me rephrase then: "...I'd like to see that happen to a game I'm actually interested in, at least once in my lifetime."

:D

[Sir_NutS]

meh update for me. Maybe more important for tournament players.

Ke ya ya ya ya... so much meme potential. I want what sakurai smokes when he writes these articles.

[Amayirot Akago]

He's just Japanese, he doesn't smoke anything (at least to my knowledge).

Anyhow, I noticed at IGN it says Europe gets the game in September whereas Japan gets it in December, and USA is still TBA... just an estimate or is this true?

[Wipomatic]

He's just Japanese, he doesn't smoke anything (at least to my knowledge).

Anyhow, I noticed at IGN it says Europe gets the game in September whereas Japan gets it in December, and USA is still TBA... just an estimate or is this true?

Europe never gets anything before everyone else. :(

[StarZander]

Europe never gets anything before everyone else. :(

I remember we got Final Fantasy: Origins before the americans. Like... yay.

[Jaybell]

Meh update, highlight definitely has to be HEY YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA!

Have you ever listened to a little kid describe his or her video games? That's what Sakurai's writeups remind me of. :P

[Amayirot Akago]

Europe never gets anything before everyone else. :(We got Mario Strikers Charged and Wii Play before the US did.

[Dhsu]

Meh update, highlight definitely has to be HEY YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA!
Sounds like an Outkast remix. :P

[mattycat900]

We got Mario Strikers Charged before the US did.

We STILL don't have it. The games been done for like 2 months and we wont get it till the 30th. GARRR>RR>R>R

[Lord.Roderick.i]

A weekend full of anxiety for an awesome update that ended up on deception :(
Very Lame imo
:(
I think every Monday should have a very cool update to compensate for the long wait :P

[wormguy]

HEY YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA

Best update ever.

[Neo Samus]

Update topic: Meh.

Update commentary: Priceless.

[ILLiterate]

meh update for me. Maybe more important for tournament players.Maybe

I take it that you can just hold down A and Metaknight will have his sword constantly slashing, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY REALLY GAY if you could do it all the time while moving or jumping, but that probably won't happen

It also means that there probably won't be a way to cancel C.Falcon's rapid punch

Oh well

[mister_pup]

kinda weird that they mention meta knight in the update when the blog hasn't formally introduced him yet. i guess we know who tomorrow's update will cover.

[atmuh]

Maybe

I take it that you can just hold down A and Metaknight will have his sword constantly slashing, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY REALLY GAY if you could do it all the time while moving or jumping, but that probably won't happen

It also means that there probably won't be a way to cancel C.Falcon's rapid punch

Oh well

yeah i think holding a and constantly attacking is quite stupid

[eternal Zero]

I wouldn't take his word directly on constant attacking. I have a feeling it'll be analogous to burst fire in a FPS. Get me? He'll be mobile or w/e, but you saw it in the trailers. A quick burst of sword flurry. That's probably what is meant here.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

I wonder how well will they implement the online mode on this game, cuz so far I haven't seen any Nintendo game that excels online. I truly hope that this game will be different and better than any other so far.

[Bigfoot]

I wonder how well will they implement the online mode on this game, cuz so far I haven't seen any Nintendo game that excels online. I truly hope that this game will be different and better than any other so far.

Since when has online been confirmed?

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Since when has online been confirmed?
Well, I was checking on IGN and I saw this:
http://www.geocities.com/lord_rodric_i/pics/onlineF.JPG
(http://wii.ign.com/objects/748/748545.html)

[wormguy]

Online has never been officially announced, but it's generally been accepted that Brawl would have an online mode. Am I right?

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Online has never been officially announced, but it's generally been accepted that Brawl would have an online mode. Am I right?
Guess so, but It would totally suck if they cut that out of the final release.

[atmuh]

if there is any lag at all online will be completely unplayable

[wormguy]

if there is any lag at all online will be completely unplayable

This is a hard fact.

[Broken]

if there is any lag at all online will be completely unplayable

unplayable for very competitive players, yes. Everyone else will probably learn to deal.

[wormguy]

unplayable for very competitive players, yes. Everyone else will probably learn to deal.

I dunno - Smash Bros.' gameplay, like most fighting games, hinges probably 95% on timing. Lag would be no good.

[Hum4n After All]

if there is any lag at all online will be completely unplayable

Boot em!

[Antipode]

Since when has online been confirmed?

Well, here's one of the most "official" announcements I've seen..

In addition, gamers will be able to choose their favorite fighter and battle online against friends.

[Strike911]

When Smash Bros. Brawl was first announced, back when they said it was going to be a launch title, they said it was going to have online. That was official straight out of Nintendo's mouth. Additionally, it was also officially stated that the online mode would be different from what we're used to because of how quick of a game Smash Bros is. All of that is official and were all quoted from developers, IE Nintendo. I don't have the articles handy, but I checked it all at the time of the news release, and it was accepted by everyone as true. You can go back and do some digging through google and get the facts, or even this thread. It's all officially true.

Not like that WW link, ice climbers are gone, crappy nonsensical rumors.

So yeah, online mode won't be the traditional smash bros we all know and love. Whatever that means is up to the devs.

I'm willing to bet it will be some sort of minigame experience, or leader boards that report your offline progress to everyone. Something cool would be being able to create something (level, skin, what have you) and share it with other people, or just download bonus content straight from Nintendo. *Shrugs* Seriously, it'll probably be like a race to the finish where you can't attack. No lie! lol.

But who knows really... Nintendo is weak when it comes to online experiences (except for the Virtual Console)... so, I'm not really holding my breath for any of the online gameplay in Smash Bros. Yes I would love to see a fully robust online mode of play, but Nintendo has never really grasped the whole online gaming thing.

I mean, yeah, I've played Mario Kart DS online, but ... hell, come on, there were more features to play with people you know back in 1994 when we were playing Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 and other ancient games... hell I'd wager cash that any terrible PC game with a multiplayer aspect is probably better than anything Nintendo has come up with yet. And it saddens me to say that because I like Nintendo.

I know from experience that fighting games, well, specifically Dead or Alive, was ridiculously difficult to play because of the lag, so... yeah.

[wormguy]

DoA 4 was pretty good in terms of lag, actually.

And I'm not so sure about this minigame or leaderboard stuff - that would be pretty disappointing.

[Dopple Boppler]

But who knows really... Nintendo is weak when it comes to online experiences (except for the Virtual Console)... so, I'm not really holding my breath for any of the online gameplay in Smash Bros. Yes I would love to see a fully robust online mode of play, but Nintendo has never really grasped the whole online gaming thing.

Well, in Nintendo's defense, even though I didn't care too much for the game itself because of wicked crab handage, Metroid Prime Hunters had a pretty robust online interface going on. But yeah, the other WiFi enabled Nintendo games I've played haven't really had the best online.

But lag or no, they'd definitely lose some sales if they were to exclude online play. Everyone I know aside from myself and a handful of real life friends are buying the game for the sole purpose of online play. And even if there is lag, I don't play the game for tournament stuff anyways; for me Smash Bros. is first and foremost an ode to Nintendo and a wetdream for Nintendo fans, then a party game, and then a serious tournament game. I know most of the people on these boards are hardcore gamers and whatnot, but Smash Bros. is a game that appeals to all kinds of gamers, including the ones that don't mind a pinch of lag in their online soup. So yeah, definitely beneficial to have some kind of online stuff in this, especially if Nintendo plans on not being bombed by some crazy fan if they decided to not include it.

[Critical Hit]

Well, in Nintendo's defense, even though I didn't care too much for the game itself because of wicked crab handage, Metroid Prime Hunters had a pretty robust online interface going on. But yeah, the other WiFi enabled Nintendo games I've played haven't really had the best online.

But lag or no, they'd definitely lose some sales if they were to exclude online play. Everyone I know aside from myself and a handful of real life friends are buying the game for the sole purpose of online play. And even if there is lag, I don't play the game for tournament stuff anyways; for me Smash Bros. is first and foremost an ode to Nintendo and a wetdream for Nintendo fans, then a party game, and then a serious tournament game. I know most of the people on these boards are hardcore gamers and whatnot, but Smash Bros. is a game that appeals to all kinds of gamers, including the ones that don't mind a pinch of lag in their online soup. So yeah, definitely beneficial to have some kind of online stuff in this, especially if Nintendo plans on not being bombed by some crazy fan if they decided to not include it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. As much as I love fighting for the competitive play, the game remains to me at its core as an incredibly fun giant Nintendo-themed pillow fight, letting players duke it out as their fav chars... of course as much as I'd love [exceptional] online play, I won't crucify myself or Nintendo if it doesn't. Hell I'm just thrilled they decided to do another iteration of Smash Bros altogether.

[Soma]

When Smash Bros. Brawl was first announced, back when they said it was going to be a launch title, they said it was going to have online. That was official straight out of Nintendo's mouth. Additionally, it was also officially stated that the online mode would be different from what we're used to because of how quick of a game Smash Bros is. All of that is official and were all quoted from developers, IE Nintendo. I don't have the articles handy, but I checked it all at the time of the news release, and it was accepted by everyone as true. You can go back and do some digging through google and get the facts, or even this thread. It's all officially true.

Not like that WW link, ice climbers are gone, crappy nonsensical rumors.

So yeah, online mode won't be the traditional smash bros we all know and love. Whatever that means is up to the devs.

I'm willing to bet it will be some sort of minigame experience, or leader boards that report your offline progress to everyone. Something cool would be being able to create something (level, skin, what have you) and share it with other people, or just download bonus content straight from Nintendo. *Shrugs* Seriously, it'll probably be like a race to the finish where you can't attack. No lie! lol.

But who knows really... Nintendo is weak when it comes to online experiences (except for the Virtual Console)... so, I'm not really holding my breath for any of the online gameplay in Smash Bros. Yes I would love to see a fully robust online mode of play, but Nintendo has never really grasped the whole online gaming thing.

I mean, yeah, I've played Mario Kart DS online, but ... hell, come on, there were more features to play with people you know back in 1994 when we were playing Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 and other ancient games... hell I'd wager cash that any terrible PC game with a multiplayer aspect is probably better than anything Nintendo has come up with yet. And it saddens me to say that because I like Nintendo.

I know from experience that fighting games, well, specifically Dead or Alive, was ridiculously difficult to play because of the lag, so... yeah.
X-band for the SNES had a far more robust online experience than anything Nintendo has done since. And i realize Nintendo didn't exactly make the X-band device or service. But that makes me sad.

[Broken]

X-band for the SNES had a far more robust online experience than anything Nintendo has done since. And i realize Nintendo didn't exactly make the X-band device or service. But that makes me sad.

Wow, that thing is amazing. Years ahead of its time. That kind of reminds me of something that Triforce was telling me a long time ago.

That nothing is new. It's all been done before.

[Neonlare]

Suddenly, it's Wright!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/items/assist/images/assist03/assist03_070710a.jpg

[atmuh]

Awesome. Now THAT’S what I call city-building.

[Strike911]

lol!! simcity. Zomg!! In Assist trophies?!

Wow, didn't expect a game like that to show up. That wasn't a 1st or 2nd party game right? That was... Maxis right?

And if that's true, does that mean we'll see other 3rd party characters as assist trophies. I thought all of those were going to be exclusively Nintendo franchise characters. Guess I was wrong. That's exciting. So that is why this update rocks, possible other 3rd party assist trophies... and well, bringing back something from my childhood. I guess perhaps its games published by Nintendo.

"You mean THAT Dr. Wright?"

And I know it was said earlier, but there will be serious injustice if Phoenix Wright isn't in this game somehow!

Anyway, yeah, I'm digging the buildings. I used to love playing SimCity, and creating a giant city then just wasting it. hehe. ^_^

[StarZander]

Hahaha! Awesome Assist Trophy! Dr. Wright always bugged me, but now I can use his annoyance against others. Wee! Although, I'll probably be the one who gets hit by his wonderful buildings the most.

[JackKieser]

It's official. Anything and everything is fair game for Smash Bros. from now on. Thank you, Mr. Sakurai, for blowing the lid off of all of our preconceived notions about who is viable to be included.

Whoever first suggested the disembodied head of Dr. Kawashima might not be that far off...

--Jack Kieser

[ThE Sa-X]

And I know it was said earlier, but there will be serious injustice if Phoenix Wright isn't in this game somehow!

Yes, If Phoenix Wright isnt in the game, I will cry and go strangle sakurai.

[Global-Trance]

Dr. Wright vs. Bowser City Disaster

[anne amère]

I am disapointed.

I am BEYOND disapointed.

I feel INSULTED.

I can't believe that Sakurai put something so RIDICULOUS-looking in the game. A man with two giant orbs of green hair...and a Hitler moustache. Dear GOD, so LAME.

I do not want to play some kiddy cartoony childish game made for little babies.

This information isn't exciting. It doesn't impact gameplay in very significant way. It's not interesting at all, it's just tiny inconsequential info. Another minor, lame update of no importance.

Sakurai, you are seriously making me angry. Show us something that actually matters.

[Eulogic]

Old or boring or lame or minor or inconsequential or unexciting updates are not good.

Daily updates are not neccesarily good.

Lame info daily? Yeah, that just sucks.

Something is better than nothing? No, not neccesarily, especially if that 'something' is just stupid stuff nobody cards about.

Daily updates =/= Good.

[JackKieser]

Hah... I thought that post looked familiar. Seriously, man... pwned. Find something new to complain about.

Personally, I don't find it insignificant at all. Especially if he can aim the skyscrapers at multiple people. Even if it's a one-shot, though... you get caught in that, and you're gonna feel it, from the looks of it.

--Jack Kieser

PS... Aww, the post flaming anne amère for posting the exact same thing on the Gamefaqs boards is gone... it doesn't feel so scathing in here anymore.

[BigBoss]

--Jack Kieser

STOP SIGNING YOUR FUCKING POSTS.

[wormguy]

Stop bitching whenever the updates don't meet your expectations. It's enough that we get any info at all.

It's not like anyone is forcing you to read the damn updates. All this whining is just getting on my nerves.

[Chuckles]

STOP SIGNING YOUR FUCKING POSTS.

Glad I'm not the only one.

[nookster]

I am disapointed.

I am BEYOND disapointed.

I feel INSULTED.

I can't believe that Sakurai put something so RIDICULOUS-looking in the game. A man with two giant orbs of green hair...and a Hitler moustache. Dear GOD, so LAME.

I do not want to play some kiddy cartoony childish game made for little babies.

This information isn't exciting. It doesn't impact gameplay in very significant way. It's not interesting at all, it's just tiny inconsequential info. Another minor, lame update of no importance.

Sakurai, you are seriously making me angry. Show us something that actually matters.


Hahaha, i see it right now. Kid behind computer getting really mad because he doesn't like an item in a game with tons of other content. Great priorities in life :D

Haha, great joke man. I mean, being mad about something being to kiddy in a game that also features pokemons, kirby and bananapeels to slip on. Genius joke.

...

It was a joke right?

[Arek the Absolute]

Hah... I thought that post looked familiar. Seriously, man... pwned. Find something new to complain about.

Personally, I don't find it insignificant at all. Especially if he can aim the skyscrapers at multiple people. Even if it's a one-shot, though... you get caught in that, and you're gonna feel it, from the looks of it.

--Jack Kieser

PS... Aww, the post flaming anne amère for posting the exact same thing on the Gamefaqs boards is gone... it doesn't feel so scathing in here anymore.

1)Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so let them voice it. You complaining about their "issues" about the updates makes you worse than them. Shut the fuck up.

2) You aren't cthonic, so stop signing your damn posts.

also lloyd irving as smash character plzkthx :o

[Ray Falling]

I always think "ZOMG NEW CHARACTER???" when I see these things. I didn't realize he was an assist trophy untill the end of the update said so ehehehe.
Pretty obvious though, but right now, anything goes :)

I think it's an interesting update ;_; iep, though I kind of don't want to know more so I'll be surprised when I get the game, but on the other hand I really want to know more too :)

Also for those complainers: you can't have a good update EVERY day. It's called balance, and not being an idiot for releasing allll the important info right away.

[Smoke]

Wow, didn't expect a game like that to show up. That wasn't a 1st or 2nd party game right? That was... Maxis right?

SimCity is originally a Maxis IP. However, the SNES version was developed by Nintendo with a license of the game concept, making all new characters appearing in it Nintendo characters. Hell, the SNES SC has Bowser as a possible disaster and a Mario statue.

Not to mention that Dr. Wright shows up in Link's Awakening in a nice cameo too.

Anyway, this shows that SSBB might have quite a few lesser-known characters in it. Maybe Tamagon will show up too(He was also in SSBM as a trophy)

[Amayirot Akago]

That is effing brilliant. I want this game NOW.

[Drack]

I've got an idea/prediction.

Assist trophies get unlocked as you acquire them as trophies, ssbm style, in the single player.

Just a thought.

[megadave]

I saw the name Dr. Wright, and I was thinking about Dr. Light (when it was mistakenly spelled Dr.Wright as well), and I started to get shivers down my spine.

I scrolled down even further, and I saw the SimCity Dr. Wright.

Then, I was like "Oh, that guy. I guess that's still kinda cool."

Anyway, I hope they don't give away too many secrets - I still want this game to be a surprise when it comes out. Heck, I knew way too much about the new Zelda TP when it came out, and it ruined it for me.

[Sir_NutS]

Dr Wright.. lol

[Smoke]

I've got an idea/prediction.

Assist trophies get unlocked as you acquire them as trophies, ssbm style, in the single player.

Just a thought.

How about the game reading your existing SSBM save to unlock a few nice extras? Or savegames already on your Wii?

[anclunn]

THe best thing about the daily updates is that it gives people something to speculate over and then gives them something new so we don't keep going off on a tangent based on our own speculation.

[Drack]

How about the game reading your existing SSBM save to unlock a few nice extras? Or savegames already on your Wii?
You just reminded me of Psycho Mantis in MGS Twin Snakes.

"You like Zelda games! You've been playing Super Mario Sunshine!
???! I SEE YOU LIKE ETERNAL DARKNESS!!!!"

[BardicKnowledge]

I think that this has been one of my top 5 updates. Not because this information is more essential than the others, but because this update encourages me to dream more that I previously thought I could.

No one here thought of including Nintendo IP as vague as SNES SimCity, I'd venture. Therefore, the update tells us that anything we can think about in the world of Nintendo IP is equally vaild.

Basically, any update that gives me hope of seeing Michael Jones (the yo-yo wielding baseball pitcher, not the crappy music star) in the game is a good one. :p

[Sir_NutS]

How about the game reading your existing SSBM save to unlock a few nice extras? Or savegames already on your Wii?

SSBM did that, if you had a savegame of mario sunshine, I think.

[Airwalker]

I think that this has been one of my top 5 updates. Not because this information is more essential than the others, but because this update encourages me to dream more that I previously thought I could.

My thoughts exactly. That's a rather obscure reference.

Though I was really really hoping for Phoenix Wright as a playable character. Ah well, now I shall unleash the power of Will Wright upon you!

[Neo Samus]

You just reminded me of Psycho Mantis in MGS Twin Snakes.

"You like Zelda games! You've been playing Super Mario Sunshine!
???! I SEE YOU LIKE ETERNAL DARKNESS!!!!"

That was my favorite part of MGS.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

BEST UPDATE EVER!!!!!!!!
I would have never thought of Mr. Wright being a playable character!!!
And the Skyscraper move, thats just sweet!!!

[supremespleen]

BEST UPDATE EVER!!!!!!!!
I would have never thought of Mr. Wright being a playable character!!!
And the Skyscraper move, thats just sweet!!!Not playable - he's an assist trophy.

[Culturekoi]

BEST UPDATE EVER!!!!!!!!
I would have never thought of Mr. Wright being a playable character!!!
And the Skyscraper move, thats just sweet!!!Not playable - he's an assist trophy.

And so we witness the death of a dream. :razz:

[Lord.Roderick.i]

And so we witness the death of a dream. :razz:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My heart just splitted in two:cry:

[Sir_NutS]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My heart just splitted in two:cry:

Read. It's good for the heart.

[JackKieser]

1)Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so let them voice it. You complaining about their "issues" about the updates makes you worse than them. Shut the fuck up.

2) You aren't cthonic, so stop signing your damn posts.

also lloyd irving as smash character plzkthx :o

Ok, so, I hate to respond to this here, but oh well.

1) I totally understand that everyone is entitled to an opinion. That's cool. What I was referring to in my post was that someone had flamed that dude for ctrl-c/ctrl-v'ing his exact post from the Gamefaqs boards, which I think is kind of a dumb thing to do. At least re-form your sentences, if not your thoughts. So, when I read the same post I had read on GF's, I lol'ed. Unfortunately, the person's post I was referring to has since been removed.

2) Why does anyone care about me signing my posts? It's an endearing character trait; I do it everywhere, not just on these boards. Like you said, it's a free world, so deal with it.


As for Dr. Wright... I wonder if he'll always pop up the same set of skyscrapers, or if it will be different each time. I think it'd be cool to see an office building one time and a business district another. Maybe they could do differing amounts of knockback and damage; the taller the building the more damage it does, but the shorter the building, the more ground it covers.

--Jack Kieser

[Chuckles]

2) Why does anyone care about me signing my posts? It's an endearing character trait;

That, my friend, is very much up for debate right now.

Good rule of thumb: When you are the only one that considers something you do as "an endearing character trait", it's not.

[JackKieser]

That, my friend, is very much up for debate right now.

Good rule of thumb: When you are the only one that considers something you do as "an endearing character trait", it's not.

Wow, never actually thought I'd ever get into a forum debate like this...

If you read (and quoted) on, you would have noticed that I said I carried it over from everything I write. I do it off this board, as well, like in e-mails. So... if you're willing to disregard everyone who knows me personally in real life, then yes, you're right. You would all determine whether it is a character trait or not. But you don't, so... yeah.

This is a Smash Bros. thread. Next time you guys want to complain to me, do it in a PM.

I do believe the current subject is the good Dr.?

--Jack Kieser

PS... There, I'm sorry I made a mistake in the choosing of my words; I changed it. It's a Smash Bros. THREAD. Doesn't change the fact that you don't rule the Internet. ;)

And Sir_NutS... I'm glad you heeded my request. Your respect really means a lot. [/sarcasm]

[Sir_NutS]

Wow, never actually thought I'd ever get into a forum debate like this...

If you read (and quoted) on, you would have noticed that I said I carried it over from everything I write. I do it off this board, as well, like in e-mails. So... if you're willing to disregard everyone know knows me personally in real life, then yes, you're right. You would all determine whether it is a character trait or not. But you don't, so... yeah.

This is a Smash Bros. forum. Next time you guys want to complain to me, do it in a PM.

I do believe the current subject is the good Dr.?

--Jack Kieser

-These are not smash bros forums, it's just a thread.
-signing your posts is retarded, that's what the signature section is for, unless, of course, you're cht, which is not the case.
-Internet is serious, serious business. Learn.

[nookster]

Wow. I LOVE the new update, not because i care about it (nice, give's us a sense of how obscure they are willing to go. that's it) but because since then i've witnessed:
Some 13 year olds really getting upset because they are not getting the full scoop on a game with a release date six months away, and a real life unmod style discussion about someone signing his post and how stupid it is.
So, massive lolz. It's great to see my need for SSBB opinions, internet drama, and someone being insulted by a gamedeveloper because said developer revealed an item all rolled into one thread.

I... i lurk to much.

And i miss unmod...

And..and, i LOVE you guys.
(And really hope to god some of you aren't real :D )

Ps.
About Loyd Irving, i'm not giving it even a small chance. But damn, that WOULD be nice though.
Ahwell, with the inclusion of docter wright, everything seems possible. Inconsequential, stupid update that he is

--Nik (aw, lemme try it once, feels good :D

[Chuckles]

-Internet is serious, serious business. Learn.

Bottom line.

[Jam Stunna]

Quick question: Is the Perfect Control video done with some sort of assistance?

[nookster]

I hope that tomorrow, they reveal that Charizard is still inside a pokeball.
I'd love to see a discussion about that.

What i'm curious about is the level of extra content. Melee had an insane amount of content, which i loved. Curious if they can improve on that. Individual adventure modes, real endings, unlockable art, costumes, give everyone their one souledge and calibur weapon, and...

oh wait

[Global-Trance]

Quick question: Is the Perfect Control video done with some sort of assistance?

Um. Yes. Notice the frame shuffler at the top. The game was pretty much slowed down to frame by frame and then put together. It's all possible, but near impossible to be that precise 100% of the time.


Hmmm.... I should really see if I can do that perfect Fox waveshine where he's changing his face direction.

[Effector]

So I got the new EGM in today. Rumor Mill column says, and I quote:

Here's a Super Smash Bros. Brawl nugget for you: I discovered the game will use the popular physics engine Havok (used in games like Crackdown).

So greet this with the normal skepticism that accompanies rumors, especially SSBB rumors, but keep in mind that Sakurai has touted the improved physics and that EGM's Rumor Mill is fairly selective and usually right. Not to say they don't make mistakes, but they've got a pretty good column.

[Ray Falling]

Anyway, I hope they don't give away too many secrets - I still want this game to be a surprise when it comes out.

The thing is, you can stop reading here and stop watching the Smash site right now, but then there's still that bit of info you want to know that will really sell the game to you, but you don't want to know the info that would spoil it so you don't want to buy the game anymore.
When you realize the info you're reading will spoil it, it's already too late :)

So maybe a good question is: what bit of info is it that we need right now that would satisfy our needs completelt but not ruin the surprise?

...

Ha, release date n_n

[JackKieser]

As much as that would be nice... I really can't find it in myself to have the hope that Nintendo will give us a release date, even at minE3. Maybe a new trailer or something, but I just have this sneaking suspicion that Nintendo will give Brawl's release date separately, maybe when there isn't anything else to take away attention.

...even though all focus would be on that anyway. Meh.

--Jack Kieser

[Cerrax]

What i'm curious about is the level of extra content. Melee had an insane amount of content, which i loved. Curious if they can improve on that. Individual adventure modes, real endings, unlockable art, costumes, give everyone their one souledge and calibur weapon, and...

oh wait

Ah the truth comes out, even in sarcasm. I too wouldlike SSB to be mopre like Soul Calibur in terms of extra content. It would be better than the crappy trophy collecting of Melee.

[friendlyHunter]

I've got an idea/prediction.

Assist trophies get unlocked as you acquire them as trophies, ssbm style, in the single player.

Just a thought.
Seems more likely you'll simply encounter them as you fight, multiplayer, singleplayer, whatever. If there's a special "item select" for the assist trophies, chances are it'll be hidden by default (as tradition has dictated). Will this hypothetical "trophy select" screen contain all the trophies in the game, or only the ones you've encountered? Or will you unlock the trophy select screen BY encountering all the assist trophies?? If this screen does exist, will it have info on the trophies like the SSBM trophies? If so, approximately how big will the font be? 8 pixels tall? 9? 22? I'm personally hoping somewhere in the range of 11 to 11.4, but I'm not about to get my hopes up =(


Also, the guy who mentioned Mike Jones (from Star Tropics) - indeed, he'd be a great assist trophy. Heck, he'd make a great playable character with a fully awesome set of moves from the original game(s); seems the only thing to stop him is lack of popularity... that didn't stop Game & Watch though! :roll: Bah, I'm still pessimistic.


My prediction for stuff they'll release: the thing that Jack just said about the release date sounds likely. As for the stuff we all want to know about (character list etc.), such as Sonic... chances are they'll release that in a trailer, rather than a daily update. As for the updates, I'm hoping soon they'll give the shpiel on Zero Suit Samus (separate character or not?). I'm also looking forward to Metroid stages and Samus moves, Wario moves, Metaknight moves.... I'd be happy with a complete list of (non-hidden) characters and moves right about now =p I'd be happy if the kept a lot of the Final Smashes secret though, have them blow you away first-hand in the game ^_^


To the angry kid who couldn't handle today's update: if you weren't joking... just relax! :) NOW!! ;-)
I'd say "don't worry, tommorow's update is going to be better!", but chances are I'd be lying. To be honest, that was a great update. Obscure characters ahoy!



As for the whole "extra content" topic... I'd be completely content with the amount of stages/items/characters in Melee (less even), so long as they have a whole crapload of assist trophies. I much more care about the quality of extra stuff - if the extra stages aren't fun, if the extra characters are clones, if the assist trophies are totally lame... then it's just not worth it. If all the content gets as much care as Mr. Wright over there, looks like Brawl will be chock-full of quality stuff =]

I'm hoping for some nice single-player though... I want beating to it feel like it needs skill, rather than luck (often Melee depends on luck for me, as I often fall to my death out of the blue :oops:). Things like unique character entrances, unique character endings, etc. would be a bonus. Holy crap, they could have different bosses for each character, tailored to each character's fighting style for maximum fun-ness! That Master Hand's boring old predictable moves just don't cut it anymore.... Samus could fight one of the many classic Metroid bosses, Fox would be able to literally kick giant-Andross-face's face in the face, and Bowser could go up for a final clash against Mario... and of course, Kirby would fight Marx. Ahhh, we can only dream.......

[Lord.Roderick.i]

...
To the angry kid who couldn't handle today's update: if you weren't joking... just relax! :) NOW!! ;-)
I'd say "don't worry, tommorow's update is going to be better!", but chances are I'd be lying. To be honest, that was a great update. Obscure characters ahoy!
...


I was partly joking, but in a way I was excited about using him... I really didn't notice the item icon on the top-right corner :sad:
Oh well...
About tomorrow's E3. It sucks that Brawl won't be in it :sad:

[friendlyHunter]

Nonono not you, the other guy :oops: Should've been more specific, heh.

[Edit]
Here we go:
I am disapointed.

I am BEYOND disapointed.

I feel INSULTED.

I can't believe that Sakurai put something so RIDICULOUS-looking in the game. A man with two giant orbs of green hair...and a Hitler moustache. Dear GOD, so LAME.

I do not want to play some kiddy cartoony childish game made for little babies.

This information isn't exciting. It doesn't impact gameplay in very significant way. It's not interesting at all, it's just tiny inconsequential info. Another minor, lame update of no importance.

Sakurai, you are seriously making me angry. Show us something that actually matters.
Is that sarcasm? Please tell us, so we can unscrupulously judge you!

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Originally Posted by anne amère http://www.ocremix.org/forums/../images/vbulletin/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?p=292504#post292504)
I am disapointed.

I am BEYOND disapointed.

I feel INSULTED.

I can't believe that Sakurai put something so RIDICULOUS-looking in the game. A man with two giant orbs of green hair...and a Hitler moustache. Dear GOD, so LAME.

I do not want to play some kiddy cartoony childish game made for little babies.

This information isn't exciting. It doesn't impact gameplay in very significant way. It's not interesting at all, it's just tiny inconsequential info. Another minor, lame update of no importance.

Sakurai, you are seriously making me angry. Show us something that actually matters.

WOW
I think that was a lil too much... I mean the update wasn't that bad... I think that the one before yesterday's was far worse (imo)

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Sorry for the double post, but...
The bumper is BACK!!!!!!!
WOOT!!!!!!

[Dhsu]

Awesome, I missed those.

[Strike911]

I can't believe that Sakurai put something so RIDICULOUS-looking in the game. A man with two giant orbs of green hair...and a Hitler moustache. Dear GOD, so LAME.

I do not want to play some kiddy cartoony childish (blah blah blah... edited for content by Strike911 because of incessant bitching)

uhh... you realize there's a yellow cartoon mouse with red cheeks that only says "pikachu" over and over, right? Last time I checked Smash Bros wasn't the posterchild for M-rated hootinannies that you're so badly yearning for.

Oh... you know that. Ah, okay, just checking. Kthnx.

May I suggest the PS3 thread?

or...

Maybe you'd prefer DragonBall Z because IT LIKE ZOMG THE BEST ANIME EVAAAARRRRRR!!!!!!!111111 IT IS THE MOST MATURE TV SHOW FOR KIDS EVAR! LIKE I'M GOING TO DEFINE MYSELF BY ITS OBVIOUS MATURITY BY EMBRACING IT XOORZZ!@!@ LO@LL@11 ZOMG!! OMGG!! BULMA IS a HAWTY!! LAWL!!!!1111 Zomg/1!! WTF BBQ!!~!!!!11ljkashdfkl;!~!~

Edit: yay bumper!!!

[anne amère]

We have known about the bumper for eight years.

This news is as old as could possibly be.

I would DEFINATELY prefer to learn something NEW instead of about some old stupid item nobody cares about.

Not to mention, this information isn't exciting. It doesn't impact gameplay in any very significant way. It's not interesting at all, it's just tiny inconsequential info. Another minor, lame update of no importance.

Sakurai, you have failed hard tonight.

"den y do u keep checkin 4 updaits lol"

On the 1/10000000000 chance it will actually be something relevant.

[Strike911]

We have known about the bumper for eight years.

This news is as old as could possibly be.

I would DEFINATELY prefer to learn something NEW instead of about some old stupid item nobody cares about.

Not to mention, this information isn't exciting. It doesn't impact gameplay in any very significant way. It's not interesting at all, it's just tiny inconsequential info. Another minor, lame update of no importance.

Sakurai, you have failed hard tonight.

"den y do u keep checkin 4 updaits lol"

On the 1/10000000000 chance it will actually be something relevant.

roffle. roffle. roffle.

I'd say he's "failed" just about equally with most of the other nights. I mean seriously, its not often that we get really truly groundbreaking, or earthshaking updates, but its nice to get new info every night rather than get droughts for months at a time. . . . . . . . . . .

for reals.

[Dhsu]

Your mom has failed hard tonight.

[JackKieser]

Ouch. Here's some aloe vera for that nasty burn. *hands anne some creme* ;)

Really, though... eight years old? I fail to see the accuracy of that statement. I, for one, have not known for eight years that Brawl would contain that particular item.

Oh, you mean we knew about the ITEM for eight years. Right. Still, I don't see how that's pointless information, especially how the bumper, in my opinion, is way better than the spinny Melee bumper-thing. Or, at least, more useful. And controllable.

--Jack Kieser

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Ouch. Here's some aloe vera for that nasty burn. *hands anne some creme* ;)

Really, though... eight years old? I fail to see the accuracy of that statement. I, for one, have not known for eight years that Brawl would contain that particular item.

Oh, you mean we knew about the ITEM for eight years. Right. Still, I don't see how that's pointless information, especially how the bumper, in my opinion, is way better than the spinny Melee bumper-thing. Or, at least, more useful. And controllable.

--Jack Kieser
Indeed...
And WTF is wrong with you Anne M. If you hate all these updates so much then, why don't you just check it once a week? So you can only appreciate the good ones.

[JackKieser]

Easy, for the same reason none of us can...





...because Sakurai has an iron grip on our souls at this point.

--Jack Kieser

[nookster]

I'm insulted by this update

Bumper is way to kiddy

Seriously though. Nice update. These are the kind of things i want to know about. Eldin bridge made my do my little happy dance (big zelda fanboy at heart), but ultimately, I would've rather gone nuts about it when i saw it pop up on my tv screen, controller in hand, and my celebrating smashfriends around me. Same with final smashes.
The update that got me excited was the one sakurai warned everyone would have a different flavour.
I wonder if this also extents to gameplay, a new (rumoured?) physics engine would help.

Who would like Brawl to play more like Smashbros 64? I like both styles, but curious what the popular opinion is

[FuriousFure]

Great GoogelyMoogely! a random item from the N64 Smash Bros!!!

Old = AWESOME.



in all realness (cause i keep it real, homes) i liked the bumber way better than that weird little spinning thing in Melee.

too some, this is a pointless update, but to others its like finding an old pair of shoes: you can't help but to want to try them on again just for the hell of it.

[BigBoss]

--Jack Kieser

STOP IT FUCK.

[Hum4n After All]

This is one of the items I wanted back so bad.
I'm happy its back.
Now only if they bring Hitmonlee back in the Pokeball.

[Strike911]

So apparently it pretty much functions just like the Spinner thing ... since it can stop in the air now ... and like the old bumper since you can throw it on the ground...

So since the new bumper is just the old bumper plus the spinner combined, I wonder if they'll even include the spinner in the final game, instead of both the new bumper and the spinner... which would really be redundant, since the new bumper does both jobs. I mean... it would be redundant. Redundant.

Redundant?

New Spinner = Old Bumper + Spinner

Redundant.

[Arek the Absolute]

Easy, for the same reason none of us can...





...because Sakurai has an iron grip on our souls at this point.

--Jack Kieser

Yours maybe.
PS- stop signing your posts

[Brithor]

^lol

I hope they don't bring it back, 'cause the spinning thingy was wayy to annoying.

[Rambo]

--Jack Kieser

Keep it up! :)!!

On a completely unrelated note.... Bumpers kick ass.
Whoever thought it was a good idea to get rid of bumpers and introduce flippers was a fool. I'm glad they've changed it back. Bumpers are an item worth taking seriously. (unlike gay flippers) ESPECIALLY now that they can be suspended. (in item form) Woot woot.

[Drack]

I liked the n64 bumper way more than the melee spinner.

Compared to gooey bombs, cracka launchers, and Groudon pokeballs, it's not too powerful an item.

I wonder how many items we'll see before release? Speaking of which ... WHEN IS THE RELEASE?

--Drack

[megadave]

Like never. They're going to push it back for several years and release on a newer console.

[iskyoork]

Im really happy to see that the old bumper is back, I never liked the spinner.

--Iskyoork

[Sir_NutS]

Well I do agree that they're more useful than spinners. Meh update though.

--fuckyermum

[Ray Falling]

I liked the n64 bumper way more than the melee spinner.

Compared to gooey bombs, cracka launchers, and Groudon pokeballs, it's not too powerful an item.

I wonder how many items we'll see before release? Speaking of which ... WHEN IS THE RELEASE?

--Drack

Well, not every item needs to be powerful. Again, it's all about balance.

Anyway; this calls for 4 player, small stage, bumper only, item appearance ratio very high :)

*Scottish accent:* it'll be pinball hell 0_0;

[HideousBeing]

Picture updates are so hollow. I hope at E3 we get a trailer that shows all the new added characters moving and attacking as well as the new stages. I want to see this "different flavor" Bowser has this time.

[Ero Elohim]

Just popping in to do this.

-- Ero

[supremespleen]

Ah well, I suppose not every update will be awesome.
--spleen

[Bigfoot]

Dec 3rd is the release date.. well, it's still this year at least lol.

[Effector]

Dec. 3, bitches.

[Airwalker]

Dec 3rd is the release date.. well, it's still this year at least lol.

I was on the edge of my seat. I was hoping he'd say "It will release... TOMMOROW!"

Eheh...

[eternal Zero]

Hello holiday release. That'll be big bucks for sure. I just hope there isn't a shortage like the Wii.

[Wipomatic]

Dec 3rd is the release date.. well, it's still this year at least lol.


Not for Europe. :'( It'll probably be next August or something.

[Sir_NutS]

yay, its coming this year, and gives me enough time to pay my debts and get a wii. Awesomeness.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

I was on the edge of my seat. I was hoping he'd say "It will release... TOMMOROW!"

Eheh...
Yeah... I was thinking he was gonna say: "...I'm pleased to announce that Brawl will come our Next Month" or something like that, I was so excited :D

[Red Shadow]

hey hey, just enough time to play through prime 3 once or twice

[Neo Samus]

So Dec. 3 eh? Sweet. NOw if only I could fine th emoney to get it.....anyone need a spleen?

[Zeklan]

I will have mine reserved ASAP.

[dsx100]

I will have mine reserved ASAP.

Same here. Hopefully today.

Dec. 3 might be a little far off but at least we now have a concrete release date.

[Oddllama]

So Dec. 3 eh? Sweet. NOw if only I could fine th emoney to get it.....anyone need a spleen?
A kidney and a pancreas and we'll talk.

[Neo Samus]

Didn't Melee Release in Dec?

What the crap.....it's the same day as Melee!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee

Also, Oddllama, We have a DEAL!!!!

[Penfold]

I will have mine reserved ASAP.

tencharacterlimit

[Binjovi]

Not that I was worried he wouldn't be in the game or anything...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Binjovi/DKB.png

But it is nice to see him. That's one more old character confirmed at least.

[Penfold]

Not that I was worried he wouldn't be in the game or anything...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Binjovi/DKB.png

But it is nice to see him. That's one more old character confirmed at least.

Took me a minute to realize that was DK lol.

[Shining Mirage]

Same here.

[eternal Zero]

What the crap.....it's the same day as Melee!

Now that's nifty.

[atmuh]

ive had this reserved for almost a year now

[Raziellink]

Didn't Melee Release in Dec?

What the crap.....it's the same day as Melee!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee

Also, Oddllama, We have a DEAL!!!!

Yes, 3rd of the December, STATESIDE....Europeans will have to wait. Same shit with Super Paper Mario.

[FuriousFure]

Well, There have been known to float in the air since the N64 era. Princess Peach's Castle.

The one that floated and moved back and forth across the top of the level.

[dsx100]

ive had this reserved for almost a year now

Some stores don't let you reserve a game until a actual release date is given by the company. So some of us weren't luckly enough to reserve that way back.

[Penfold]

Some stores don't let you reserve a game until a actual release date is given by the company. So some of us weren't luckly enough to reserve that way back.

Yeah, that's how EB/Gamstop operates (though it seems like their online store component lets you preorder a game as soon as they have it on the site). I'll be preordering from amazon, at any rate :-P.

[Ray Falling]

Hmm, reserving is a good idea now that you guys mention it.
I underestimated my tiny little country when it came to reserving a Wii. I managed to do it, but should have done it much sooner. :)

Not getting this game on release day is unacceptable 0_0

[Final_metroid]

how did this release date come to be? Wikipedia must've drawn that date from somewhere, wheres the original source that stated it?

nevermind saw wiki source

[anne amère]

i am playing ssbb it kinda sucks

[Strike911]

December 3rd for the Americas. Hmm. That's about a 3 or 4 weeks later than I was originally expecting. Meh, I can deal. December will be here in no time. :)

Nintendo seriously better show some more info, movies, screens, or whatever... this is E3 for crying out loud.

[megadave]

i am playing ssbb it kinda sucks

Yeah and I can shoot photon beams out of my ass.

[JackKieser]

Yeah and I can shoot photon beams out of my ass.

Wow, really?? That's really cool! Kind of like...

Oh, wait. That's sarcasm, isn't it?

I'm just happy we have that damn date, although I didn't realize that it is going to release on the same day as Melee. My friends and I had a bet going on it, and I had money on the anniversary of the Wii itself, so at least I got the "anniversary" part right, kinda.

And to whoever said it would be unacceptable to have this game on any other day than launch... my school is next door to NOA. That place is gonna be flooded. I shudder to think of the hijinks that will ensue...

--Jack Kieser

[Sir_NutS]

I will reserve this game, even if I don't have a wii yet.

--leekmahbawls

[Red Shadow]

yeah man seriously

--Danny Dinkins

[Neonlare]

Mmm, found this on the GameTrailers forums, looks interesting...

http://www.freewebs.com/mlghighvoltage/bj.bmp

It makes sense, because I remember that character having a similar ability in Sunshine, then again, it could just be Meta-Knight with Cloak Shield :P.

[Wipomatic]

Yes, 3rd of the December, STATESIDE....Europeans will have to wait. Same shit with Super Paper Mario.

If Super Paper Mario is any indication, we'll be waiting until NEXT December. :cry:

[Ray Falling]

Mmm, found this on the GameTrailers forums, looks interesting...

http://www.freewebs.com/mlghighvoltage/bj.bmp

It makes sense, because I remember that character having a similar ability in Sunshine, then again, it could just be Meta-Knight with Cloak Shield :P.

It's actually Donkey Kong.

[friendlyHunter]

Nah, DK's WAY bigger than that in Brawl. Why'd they chose to make him so big, by the way? I really have no idea. If they make Diddy (assuming he's in the game) the same size that he is in Donkey Kong Country (relative to DK), then he'll probably be taller than all of the human characters.

That blurry thing in the image? Looks like one of those weak little goblins in Twilight Princess that hang out around the bridge.

[Effector]

That blurry thing in the image? Looks like one of those weak little goblins in Twilight Princess that hang out around the bridge.

Definitely is. Waay to skinny to be Bowser Jr.

EDIT: IIRC, they're called Bulbins. It shouldn't be too much of a stretch to think that if Sakurai's going to put King Bulbin (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage05.html) in for stage interaction, maybe some of the minions will show up. Eh.

[atmuh]

i suck balls

--Jack Kieser
_______________
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4971/tcwd6.pnghttp://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5461/breedercardfinalmf7.png

[DeathBySpoon]

Wait, where have we seen DK in Brawl? I mean, of course he's going to be in it, he's an original starter, but I have yet to see his Brawl model.

[Flaming Wuzzle]

Wait, where have we seen DK in Brawl? I mean, of course he's going to be in it, he's an original starter, but I have yet to see his Brawl model.

He was in part of the clip that was playing during the conference when Reggie announced the release date.

[JackKieser]

Haha, Atma... Very funny.

Although, I will admit, I saw my Trainer Card and was very, very confused for about 1/2 a second.

--Jack Kieser

[Ray Falling]

That blurry thing in the image? Looks like one of those weak little goblins in Twilight Princess that hang out around the bridge.

Yeah you're right it looks more like a goblin :)

[Bigfoot]

Is it me or does Bowser seem a little bigger?

[!Nekko!]

Oh man. That's the week before finals... This is bad. Real bad.

[Raziellink]

It's actually Donkey Kong.

Lol? No way. Like stated above, it's one of those goblins hanging around the bridge.

[DeathBySpoon]

Hey, if you watch right around 0:40 during the bridge scene in question, you can check out the physics in action; take a look at Kirby bouncing off the floor as he shoots to the left after the huge explosion.

EDIT: Also, Fox's new stage looks amazing, and WOO! Samus gameplay footage! Whoever is playing her kinda sucks, but it's still awesome to see.

[Bigfoot]

Hey, if you watch right around 0:40 during the bridge scene in question, you can check out the physics in action; take a look at Kirby bouncing off the floor as he shoots to the left after the huge explosion.

Whoever is playing Samus after that scene doesn't know how to recover on the stage too well lol

Also, what the heck is that big blue ball that Pikachu shoots out? Some new form of charged Electric attack(similar to Samus')?

[DeathBySpoon]

She even regains control right after being hit when she does her bair, yet she still continues to fly right off the side...

Extended footage from what we saw in the full video here!

http://gametrailers.com/game/2686.html

EDIT AGAIN: Dang, that wasn't much at all. Just Giga-Bowser chasing Pikachu and Link's Final Smash.

Also, that blue ball is Pikachu's Final Smash. You control how it moves.

[Shining Mirage]

Okay, a little help... I can't get to a calendar right now. Decmber 3rd is what day?

[Bigfoot]

Okay, a little help... I can't get to a calendar right now. Decmber 3rd is what day?

Monday

10 characters

[Shining Mirage]

Monday

10 characters

Ha-HA! The irony in that. The game that I've been waiting for is to be released on a work day... Delicious.

[friendlyHunter]

About Samus violating the strict "you must recover" legislation: why bother recovering, when you can instead make Samus do a cool move??

Kirby bouncing there might look like "new physics", in that it might not have been in Melee. But if anyone thinks that you need a physics engine to do that.... HA! HAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Seems like if a physics engine is being used, it would be only used for stuff like animating character's hair, clothes, ragdoll bouncing animations, that sort of thing. Chances are it wouldn't effect gameplay. Looks like there's some new gameplay "physics" though too =)


Oh man. That's the week before finals... This is bad. Real bad.
Can't wait one week? Well, sure, it's easy to avoid BUYING it for a week, but PLAYING it..... surely resisting the urge to spend/waste way too many hours playing will be greater a challenge than any exam can ever be! Just don't start playing, or you won't be able to stop!!

[nookster]

Is it me or does Bowser seem a little bigger?

definitly bigger.

[Imagery]

Ha-HA! The irony in that. The game that I've been waiting for is to be released on a work day... Delicious.

Um, pretty much all games have been released on Mondays for quite a while now. They may not be available in stores until Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but Monday release dates are the norm.

[Shining Mirage]

Um, pretty much all games have been released on Mondays for quite a while now. They may not be available in stores until Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but Monday release dates are the norm.

Nothing that I ever wanted this bad. Especially on a day that I'm being replaced for someone else going on vacation, so I'm pulling a double shift that two week period... Starting with Dec. 3rd.

[JackKieser]

Oh, that sucks, man. Yay for college; mine is so crazy intense, they tell incoming students that they are almost prohibited from getting a job. But, the school hosts launch parties for major games and systems, so it's all good as far as we're concerned.

I've pulled double shifts on launch days before, so I feel for you.

--Jack Kieser

[Dexie]

I have a feeling tommorrow's Japan Time update is going to be something big.

--Dexie

[supremespleen]

I have a feeling tommorrow's Japan Time update is going to be something big.

--DexieI hope so. Sure I'm excited, but so far, E3 has been kind of underwhelming.

--splenix wright, ace attorney

[Red Shadow]

i'm kind of expecting them to post whatever trailer was playing in the background

--Barry Bonds

[Wipomatic]

Japan Time already?

[Jam Stunna]

i'm kind of expecting them to post whatever trailer was playing in the background

--Barry Bonds

Can I join the fad? Also, I hope they reveal a few more female characters for Brawl.

--Boo Bradley

[!Nekko!]

Dang, they made DK look nice. I was kinda pissed when they started taking him out of Mario Party games, so this is good news (even though I knew original crew would come back.)

-Desu

[Imagery]

Dang, they made DK look nice. I was kinda pissed when they started taking him out of Mario Party games, so this is good news (even though I knew original crew would come back.)

I never realized it back with Bowser's screenshots, but looking at the shots of DK and the new footage with Bowser, hot damn is there a size difference between the big powerhouses and other characters. Were they so relatively enormous in Melee, too? If so, I never noticed it, but it's really obvious now.

[FuriousFure]

Nice. DK looks really nice. his head seems bigger more like DKC than more recent games.

Heres hoping for the NEW and improved DK rap featuring Biggie and Snoop Dogg.

[watkinzez]

Heres hoping for the NEW and improved DK rap featuring Biggie and Snoop Dogg.

I can see Nintendo doing that and forfeiting the need for a Gangplank Galleon or Brambles level with appropriate music.

[friendlyHunter]

Personally, I'm hoping for a DK stage with that brambles theme (http://www.ocremix.org/song/id/20/). A remix of that tune by those composers would surely be good. If a slow/soothing remix doesn't fit with a fight, they could even make great techno-ish remix.

Either that, or a pirate level! =D Chances are a rocking boat (responds to waves and/or players' weight) would be fun. Especially with some pirate-tastic DKC2 remixes ^^
Destructible pirate level with cannons! And barrels! And cannon-barrels! And those pirate krocs that make everyone's favourite sound effect when you attack them! ONNNK!


[Fake Edit]
What the **** you stole my post and nicely summarized it! :nicework:

[FuriousFure]

yeah... that was a joke. i really don't want the DK rap to be in Brawl

[Strike911]

i'm kind of expecting them to post whatever trailer was playing in the background

--Barry Bonds

it was on the smash bros website, pre normal time. Seeing this game running so smoothyl looks incredible. Really cool to watch. Everything just looks so damn cool.

Edit: So does anyone think we'll get a normal update too?

[Lord.Roderick.i]

yeah... that was a joke. i really don't want the DK rap to be in Brawl
lol...Anyways
DK looks awesome, with all the hair and what not.

[ILLiterate]

Oh fucking wow, they're not nerfing Fox at all from the looks of the video combined with what we've learned

Firefox still goes incredibly high, the fire from it hurts you, the bazooka looks crazy, he has all the same moves

Boo

[Eulogic]

if the dk rap isnt in the game i will not buy the game and also i will slit my wrists

[JackKieser]

I think that the idea of having a new Snoop-written DK Rap is a good one, provided whatever stage it plays in has Snoop in the background shooting Kremlins.

--Jack Kieser

[ThE Sa-X]

Oh man. That's the week before finals... This is bad. Real bad.

Yes, Agreed...

[bouncerboy15]

if the dk rap isnt in the game i will not buy the game and also i will slit my wrists
Slit slit slit!

[Strike911]

I think that the idea of having a new Snoop-written DK Rap is a good one, provided whatever stage it plays in has Snoop in the background shooting Kremlins.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

No 3am update :( ?

[Aninymouse]

the bazooka looks crazy
Actually, I think that's a Cracker Launcher Fox is holding.

[Drack]

I agree that there needs to be a Gangplank Galleon stage and music.

There also needs to be a giant explosion caused by Lanky Kong, completely obliterating himself, the DK Rap, and every other terrible idea that came from DK64, happening sometime before December 3rd.

If Snoop Dogg wants to do Smash bros music, let him do a Kirby song (http://www.google.com/search?q=Snoop+Dogg+Kirby&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a).

[megadave]

if the dk rap isnt in the game i will not buy the game and also i will slit my wrists

Me too. I love the DK rap. I think I'll break out my N64 just to hear it in true fashion.

[Sir_NutS]

Video looks nice. Me likey.

[Broken]

Finally a release date. I'm done with this website thing now.

[HideousBeing]

I am so pre-ordering mine when we can. Where should you go to look into making pre-orders?

[Wipomatic]

I know there are still daily updates but this is still a bit disappointing.

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/804/804234p1.html

[BigBoss]

I know there are still daily updates but this is still a bit disappointing.

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/804/804234p1.html

OH THANKS NONE OF US KNEW THAT LIKE A WEEK AGO

[Broken]

I know there are still daily updates but this is still a bit disappointing.

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/804/804234p1.html

Well they said they're going to set aside a special time for Brawl, so I suppose they want to focus all their attention on a specific day that the game can be spotlighted by itself instead of at E3 where it's 1 of many high profile titles on display.

[eternal Zero]

Well, I agree with Nintendo on this one. Why do you want to show your entire hand at once? You already have your consumer's attention with showing them a little bit of information each and every day. You have them hooked, they'll keep coming back for more and more information. So why do you want to show them more than you have to? Milk it out. Keep it going until the day you release the game in order to ensure that nobody has the slightest chance of forgetting about the biggest thing that has happened to gaming. Ever. (That last part was in the eyes of Nintendo, not myself.)

[Bigfoot]

I'm glad Nintendo isn't releasing a lot of details about the game. All of these little mini updates about one specific item or stage is a pretty good thing we have going right now anyway.

[megadave]

Yes, but if they keep giving updates until the release date, we will know everything.

Some similar happened with Zelda TP, and it ruined the experience for me.

[anthonium]

Well now that I know a release date I will no longer be checking the smashbros website since that is all the info I needed to know. I want the game to take me completely by surprise when I first play it. I don't want to know what items are already there and characters. That'll just ruin it for me. Well until December 3rd!

[supremespleen]

Yes, but if they keep giving updates until the release date, we will know everything.

Some similar happened with Zelda TP, and it ruined the experience for me.Then don't read it.

[Wipomatic]

The release date would mean more to me if it applied to Europe. :(

[watkinzez]

There also needs to be a giant explosion caused by Lanky Kong, completely obliterating himself, the DK Rap, and every other terrible idea that came from DK64, happening sometime before December 3rd.

Hey. Hey.
No knocking Lanky. That's going too far.

[defender!!]

he can handstand when he needs to!

[Strike911]

he can handstand when he needs to!

and... I hear he can stretch his arms out...





...just for you

[atmuh]

donkey kong sixty four was a good game

[JackKieser]

Wow, an interesting bit of trivia for anyone... interested.

According to Wiki (which, as you know, knows all):

"DK Rap" was the first-ever incidence of the word "hell" being spoken aloud in a Nintendo game. It ought to be pointed out that Rare is a British company, and in Britain the word "hell" is not viewed with anything like the opprobrium it is in the US. In order to avoid future controversy, when the Rap was used in later games, "hell" was replaced with "heck".

Also worth noting:

The line "His coconut gun can fire in spurts. If he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt!" was named the fourth worst game line ever in the January 2002 issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly.

Wow, no love for the Rap.

--Jack Kieser

[atmuh]

banmeplz

--Jack Kieser
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[FlagshipAmadeus]

Donkey Kong looks far more disgusting than he did in Melee. However, this is a fine trait, and it makes him far more awesome than he was in Melee.

-C.J. Ballwipe

[supremespleen]

Wow, an interesting bit of trivia for anyone... interested.

According to Wiki (which, as you know, knows all):

"DK Rap" was the first-ever incidence of the word "hell" being spoken aloud in a Nintendo game. It ought to be pointed out that Rare is a British company, and in Britain the word "hell" is not viewed with anything like the opprobrium it is in the US. In order to avoid future controversy, when the Rap was used in later games, "hell" was replaced with "heck".

Also worth noting:

The line "His coconut gun can fire in spurts. If he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt!" was named the fourth worst game line ever in the January 2002 issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly.

Wow, no love for the Rap.

--Jack KieserI liked the 64 DK rap, the one playing in SSBM sucks.
Several years ago, the kids section of the Chicago Tribune did a story writing contest. I wrote some godawful thing about Atlantis (which, at the time, I thought was the epitome of everything written ever). I lost, but was appalled to see that the winner plagiarized a large portion of the DK rap. I was furious, and wrote up a big letter to send in, pointing out this copier's dastardly deed. I never sent it though D:

[defender!!]

i can't think of a possible scenario when i would actually NEED to handstand

[JackKieser]

I liked the 64 DK rap, the one playing in SSBM sucks.
Several years ago, the kids section of the Chicago Tribune did a story writing contest. I wrote some godawful thing about Atlantis (which, at the time, I thought was the epitome of everything written ever). I lost, but was appalled to see that the winner plagiarized a large portion of the DK rap. I was furious, and wrote up a big letter to send in, pointing out this copier's dastardly deed. I never sent it though D:

Man, why not? That's a travesty (the plagiarizing, that is)... I wouldn't let that guy get away with taking stuff like that.

Besides... if DK ever found out, that guy would be dead. It would have only been right to give him fair warning. Watch, one day, he'll answer the door and find a 600 lb. fake gorrila waiting to jump his ass.

--Jack Kieser

Edited for non-double posting:

Man, I went back and watched the 15 second movie they gave us... Volt Tackle has some serious knockback... and damn, Fox DOES go really high. I really don't remember him flying that high with his UpB in Melee...

Now, with even more triple-post editing power!:

JESUS! That stage looks like fun. I can't wait to have K.K. Slider play during a fight!

[Chuckles]

Animal Crossing?

Well, it's something different. Can't say I'll be the first one saying "Guys guys, it's almost 8, let's all go play Brawl on Saturday night!"

[BigBoss]

I will be that first one. I was praying for this.

[Eulogic]

neat stage

[Lord.Roderick.i]

The AC stage is sweet!
I wonder if seasons will change too determined by the Wii’s internal clock.
It would be awesome:D
I can only hope though.

[Strike911]

This is interesting. I wonder if any other levels will be affected by the time of the day... hmm.

EDIT: You always need handstands. Seriously.

[Dopple Boppler]

It's a good time to be alive...

[BigBoss]

A better thing to wonder is if the stage will/could be integrated into the next Animal Crossing game. I think it'd be pretty awesome to check the shop, pick some weeds, talk to a monkey, then switch games and see that monkey watching me kill people.

[Paratha]

Good thing the special event given is at 8 P.M. Saturday.

A time like 10 AM Mon-Fri would cause mass failings of school, work, and the global economy. Based on the hype this game is getting.

[Kureejii Lea]

That is an utter delight. I wonder if the villagers will randomly cycle during the fight, or maybe every time you access the stage or something.

[Amayirot Akago]

Fuck. This game just keeps finding new ways of redefining the word "awesome".

[ILLiterate]

Tom Nook For Brawl

[watkinzez]

Mr. Resetti AT guaranteed.

[Vyse the Three Eyes]

Bwahaha! Oh MAN that rocks!

What's more, given that I don't honestly believe an AC character will make the roster (I expect a Resetti summon, though), this shows that they may be doing quite a few stages that aren't directly tied to the cast. Very cool.

Also, random thought: Given that this is a first time that an 'audience' has existed inside a stage, and given the picture where most are staring at bowser, but the male kid is staring at the clash on the platform, I wonder how detailed they are. Even if it's just looking independantly at whatever they 'find interesting', that'd be really cool.

Oh, and I just dropped in from everywhere, and nowhere. Don't mind me.

[Amayirot Akago]

Mr. Resetti AT guaranteed.
Oh sweet deity yes. I would die a happy man if that were to happen.

[Strike911]

I wonder if there are any secret times that things happen at, really strange hours... 3:45 AM ... Tom Nook's big Pimpin' parade.... *shrugs*

[NeoForte]

Tom would be awesome. Blanca too (draw her face and save in your profile hehe). For some reason I am going to bet its....Ai, the main character for the movie. If I remember at the end of the movie it says See you on the Wii, which is a reference to the Wii game being produced but might open up the option of using her in brawl I guess.

[Mr.Roboto]

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[Ray Falling]

Oh sweet deity yes. I would die a happy man if that were to happen.

No, don't die!

But there’s more...

If you play a match here on Saturday at 8PM...

Oh, I’m too excited to even say it!

That’s right, a live performance. It’s a good time to be alive...

*wink*

This stage even beats the Mario Sunshine stage in my opinion! Holy smokes :) They keep raising the bar, it's insane! Need...game...now...

[Zeklan]

If you play a match here on Saturday at 8PM...

Oh, I’m too excited to even say it!

That’s right, a live performance. It’s a good time to be alive...

Sakurai, you beautiful bastard, you.

[Syka]

Okay, I'm really excited for this game. However...

Am I the only one worried by the fact that all the stages we've seen are essentially flat pieces of ground with a few platforms in the air?

[Mr. Wizard]

I wonder what songs he'll end up playing -- the standard Animal Crossing songs or K.K.-ified tunes from other Nintendo games?

[Arek the Absolute]

Okay, I'm really excited for this game. However...

Am I the only one worried by the fact that all the stages we've seen are essentially flat pieces of ground with a few platforms in the air?

Good god, read through the thread before asking airheaded questions.
No, you aren't the only one.

[Ray Falling]

Okay, I'm really excited for this game. However...

Am I the only one worried by the fact that all the stages we've seen are essentially flat pieces of ground with a few platforms in the air?

Well, I think it is safe to assume that these stages are standard playable stages. They probably won't reveal hidden stages so those will probably have that needed variety.

I'm not even bothered by it too much, but I would definitely also like to see some different type stages.

[Sir_NutS]

Stage looks nice and all, but give me FUN stages, these stages are all alike, and it's starting to get boring. Where are the fun, innovative, and sometimes annoying stages like the poke floats, or rotating brinstar? or even non-flat stages like mushroom kingdom? meh.

[supremespleen]

Animal Crossing stage makes my head explode in awesome. I also really enjoy the flat stages, my most played stage was the big long flat Starfox one in SSBM (cos I never unlocked the final stage)

[Sir_NutS]

Animal Crossing stage makes my head explode in awesome. I also really enjoy the flat stages, my most played stage was the big long flat Starfox one in SSBM (cos I never unlocked the final stage)

That was my favorite stage as well, but it wasn't really flat, at least not like these. These are all pretty much the same, a small platform, with one centered floating platform or two floating platforms on the side. BORING.

[Dunther]

AC stage = AC playable character(s)

Mmm...maybe you can use a "man" from AC...or use yours from the Wild World version (or from a futher version for Wii?)...

[megadave]

Maybe you can make your own character with your Mii?

[Airwalker]

AC stage = AC playable character(s)

It may have been so in the past games, but it's possible Nintendo is just trying to tap all of it's IP bases here without necessarily following the past formula of a couple of characters and a couple of stages per Nintendo game referenced to.

Not that it wouldn't be pretty sweet. I like the idea for the DS character-transfer.