Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Arek the Absolute]

told ya

[Kal aMari]

The only reason I can think of is simply that he doesn't really fit in the current art style of the game. In a game where the closest we have a an actual male human possibly lactates in his closet, someone normal like Snake lighting up a cig and snapping necks seems...weird

[CE]

Think about it... Snake's grab is... and by pressing A you deal damage by appling pressure to... Oh my god yes!

[Archaon]

The only reason I can think of is simply that he doesn't really fit in the current art style of the game. In a game where the closest we have a an actual male human possibly lactates in his closet,

...what, Captain Falcon?

[KakTheInfected]

I don't even get the "Snake doesn't fit" argument. They'll make him fit.

Besides, if there's one character that's going to draw non-Nintendo fans to Smash Bros. and Wii, it has to be Snake. He's easily the biggest badass ever created in the game industry.

[!Nekko!]

I'm kind of hoping that since they apparently have Konami on their side they'll throw in James Sunderland and Pyramid Head as unlockables just to spite the people throwing out reason 2.

They better include the Mannequins to make the Pyramid Heads happy :wink:

[ILLiterate]

I'm guessing Snake's special will be particularly awesome.Jump in a Metal Gear, stay invincible for like 20 seconds

[CE]

I'm guessing Snake's special will be particularly awesome.Jump in a Metal Gear, stay invincible for like 20 seconds


I was thinking something more along the lines of a string of awesome slo-mo combos like in Twin Snakes. Backflip Backflip Kick Punch Uppercut Mid Air Kick or something.

[Strike911]

First of all I wanted to say in response to the capcom comments. I think it may be likely, because lets not forget Capcom willingly did "Capcom Vs. SNK" which was pretty awesome, in the past.

My Arena Wishlist

- Metal Gear Rex. Fighting on various parts of him, a scrolling level similar to Rainbow Cruise except the level would take place on the massive Metal Gear Rex, and the entire time its shooting stuff at you, and stuff. Maybe an occasional appearance from a Genome soldier who gets a "!" over his head. lol. Piece of Rex could be destroyed.

Any Metal Gear level would be fine as long as they didn't suck and throw you in the stupid Metal Gear Ray fight from MGS2.

- I would like a crumbling Ganon's Tower from Ocarina of Time. You start on the top, it shows Ganon falling over for a split second before the level starts, and then the roof collapses. Of course the players would drop down into the level below where the fighting could continue. Every couple seconds the floor would give and crumble and the players would drop into the floor below. Maybe on some floors there would be some Zelda baddies awaiting to join the fight briefly. Of course there would be some awesome destruction effects going on in the background.

- A REAL GOOD StarFox battle going on. I wanna see explosions, crashing ships, building being leveled, and I want to fight all in the middle of it and avoid it all. I think THAT would be great.

My Characters Wishlist
-Ash
-Team Rocket!!!
-Pig ganon... like in oot.
-CRANKY Kong
-they should change young link to look like Windwaker.
-Toad
-Koopa Troopa
-Some of the Koopa Kids!!!
-Nester (equipped with Nintendo Power mags and a bowling ball, think about it!)
-Pikmin controlled by Olimar
-Samurai Goroh


*3rd party characters*
-Ryu
-Mega Man
-the character from NiGHTS into Dreams
-Sonic (and any various others Sonic characters)
-Sephiroth (I've never played FF7, but I think this would be cool)
-Some Phantasy Star Online characters (Humar, Racast... mags included (maybe the mags could be items to pick up)
-Ulala from Space Channel 5!
-Ryo Hazuki from Shenume
-Sparkster
-The Harvest Moon kid
-BomberMan (old school BomberMan, not the new one)
-heck Nintendo let them borrow Link, lets get Mitsarugi from Soul Calibur. hehe.

[The Author]

...


Cervantes...


Think about it.

[Arek the Absolute]

ANYONE GET THE LYRICS YET OMG?!

[Jenga]

You know what would be incredible?

If Capcom got Ryu from Street Fighter in there.

I mean, everyone knows that Mario is a shoto anyway.Fuck Ryu. Dan Hibiki is where it's at. I mean he'd be perfect for this game with his humor and all.

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

WTF the trailer looks so awesome...i loved metaknight and the special attack idea...i think thei'll make it not overpowered by making the item rare and the attacks not 1 hit KOs but rather grotesque dmg dealers

[Kenobio]

First of all I wanted to say in response to the capcom comments. I think it may be likely, because lets not forget Capcom willingly did "Capcom Vs. SNK" which was pretty awesome, in the past.

My Arena Wishlist

- I would like a crumbling Ganon's Tower from Ocarina of Time. You start on the top, it shows Ganon falling over for a split second before the level starts, and then the roof collapses. Of course the players would drop down into the level below where the fighting could continue. Every couple seconds the floor would give and crumble and the players would drop into the floor below. Maybe on some floors there would be some Zelda baddies awaiting to join the fight briefly. Of course there would be some awesome destruction effects going on in the background.

- A REAL GOOD StarFox battle going on. I wanna see explosions, crashing ships, building being leveled, and I want to fight all in the middle of it and avoid it all. I think THAT would be great.

Those are great ideas for an arena wishlist. I also like the idea of having Pikmin as characters. Being able to change their colors on the character select screen to change between various types of Pikmin (water Pikmin, red Pikmin, etc) would be pretty awesome as well.

[The Author]

You know... I don't know what I would have given to be in that conference room, to see the nintendo people stand up, show the video, then at the end, have the communication start...

We see the trailer and expect it, but they saw it and the reaction must have been priceless.

[Jam Stunna]

I just want to see more Fire Emblem love in the game.

Characters:

Zephiel (FE 6)
Lyndis (FE 7)
Hector (FE 7)
Lyon (FE 8)

Stages:
Sanctuary of Dragons (FE 6)
Dragon's Gate (FE 7)

Songs:
Beneath a New Light (FE 6)
In the Name of Bern (FE 6)
Companions (FE 7)
Dragon's Gate II (FE 7)
Distant Roads (FE 8)
Land of Promise (FE 8)

Actually, Zephiel might be hard to pull off as a character, since he's so huge and slow in the game. He'd probably be better as a villain. Along those lines, I think it would be cool if adventure mode had a branching boss system, where you could fight different final bosses depending on your performance. Instead of just fighting Bowser or Giga Bowser, you can fight Pig Gannon, Majora's Mask, Zephiel, Nergal, or any number of final villains. But that's really a stretch I think.

[Arek the Absolute]

You know what would be incredible?

If Capcom got Ryu from Street Fighter in there.

I mean, everyone knows that Mario is a shoto anyway.Fuck Ryu. Dan Hibiki is where it's at. I mean he'd be perfect for this game with his humor and all.

I actually agree with you 100% there Jenga.

They could totally do a level based on the insides of Nova.
I know kwarp would cream over that :D

[Razumen]

If Tecmo had some smarts they should try and get Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden in, even though they are with Microsoft, the series started on the NES. That would be flippin' awesome if he was put in.

In fact, I think I'll enter that into the character suggestion form, anyone good with Japanese want to help?

[Ero Elohim]

I'm guessing Snake's special will be particularly awesome.Jump in a Metal Gear, stay invincible for like 20 seconds


I was thinking something more along the lines of a string of awesome slo-mo combos like in Twin Snakes. Backflip Backflip Kick Punch Uppercut Mid Air Kick or something.

No. As I stated in the Wii thread, Snake's special should call in Grey Fox (as the Ninja) to jump in, slash at the other characters, then grab the closest one and continually cry out "SNAKE! FIRE THE STINGER!" to which you have 5 seconds to hit B and fire a rocket launcher which detonates in a massive explosion on impact.

Come on. I'd laugh my ass off every time the move is pulled off.

[Razumen]

I'm guessing Snake's special will be particularly awesome.Jump in a Metal Gear, stay invincible for like 20 seconds


I was thinking something more along the lines of a string of awesome slo-mo combos like in Twin Snakes. Backflip Backflip Kick Punch Uppercut Mid Air Kick or something.

No. As I stated in the Wii thread, Snake's special should call in Grey Fox (as the Ninja) to jump in, slash at the other characters, then grab the closest one and continually cry out "SNAKE! FIRE THE STINGER!" to which you have 5 seconds to hit B and fire a rocket launcher which detonates in a massive explosion on impact.

Come on. I'd laugh my ass off every time the move is pulled off.

I second this.

[Mr.Roboto]

In terms of snakes ability's, we know he has to card board box.

I'd say we'll see something along the lines of the tranquilizer.

[AzureZeal]

I'm hoping they add in Metal Mario's theme song from the original SSB. That still remains as one of my favorite game songs.
You know what else I'd like to see? That dude from KNiGHTS that was on the Sega Saturn.

[Dunnowhathuh]

Haha, Snake, didn't see that one comin.

[wormguy]

Wow. Out of all the characters I would have speculated coming into SSB, Snake was the lowest possibility on my list. And...
Metaknight = win

[The Mutericator]

Yeah, this is becoming a list title, but I'll throw my two cents in:

With the growing popularity of Metroid, I'll bet on a couple more Metroid stages (a stage with Ridley flying around wildly, attacking random players, perhaps, or Dark Aether, where characters take damage outside roving light spheres of protection, or maybe the Artifact Temple, where the huge temple pillars move around at random and will shoot up and down from the ground, maybe combined with the Ridley stage above).

Also, I'd predict one Kid Icarus stage.

[wormguy]

Yeah, this is becoming a list title, but I'll throw my two cents in:

With the growing popularity of Metroid, I'll bet on a couple more Metroid stages (a stage with Ridley flying around wildly, attacking random players, perhaps, or Dark Aether, where characters take damage outside roving light spheres of protection, or maybe the Artifact Temple, where the huge temple pillars move around at random and will shoot up and down from the ground, maybe combined with the Ridley stage above).

Also, I'd predict one Kid Icarus stage.

If they put Pit in game, yeah, you're probably right about the Kid Icarus stage.
On a side note:
I always said that Smash Bros. needed supers and finally they have come.

[Foxxiña]

I don't understand anti-Snake people. That's the beauty of Smash Bros. It takes characters that have absolutly no business even meeting each other, then making them fight. Come on, the idea of Snake choking Popo in a grab would be awesome.

Snake's taunt should be like Luigi's in that it deals 1-3% damage, in that, Snake takes a smoke off a cigerette then puts it out on a character nearby.

[SirChadlyOC]

Ok time for some major speculation here.

On http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/index.html , Masahiro Sakurai, the director of SSBB, says that he is working with a studio that he cannot name. He goes on to mention that the studio had just finished a big game project, and were willing to work on the SSBB project. If Sakurai accepted the job in May of 2005, and the project he talks about finished a large-scale game soon afterwards, which studio might he be talking about? Which big game completed soon after E3 last year?

My first impulse is to guess Metroid Prime 2, which if true means that the studio is Retro Studios. The inclusion of the new Samus character helps support (but not prove) this theory. So what do you guys think?

[wormguy]

Ok time for some major speculation here.

On http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/index.html , Masahiro Sakurai, the director of SSBB, says that he is working with a studio that he cannot name. He goes on to mention that the studio had just finished a big game project, and were willing to work on the SSBB project. If Sakurai accepted the job in May of 2005, and the project he talks about finished a large-scale game soon afterwards, which studio might he be talking about? Which big game completed soon after E3 last year?

My first impulse is to guess Metroid Prime 2, which if true means that the studio is Retro Studios. The inclusion of the new Samus character helps support (but not prove) this theory. So what do you guys think?

Of course not, you fool, they're too busy working on MP3 to satisfy the masses.

[Arek the Absolute]

So like....seriously
Can someone find the lyrics to that song?

[JoeFu]

So like....seriously
Can someone find the lyrics to that song?

Please, I would also like a translated version :D

[Rellik]

Given the huge team working on SSBB, and the increased size of the storage capacity of Wii media over GC media, I'm curious as to the quantity of characters/levels.

I mean, sure, there were PLENTY of characters and PLENTY of arenas in SSBM - but why not MORE 8) why not overwhelm us with sheer vastness of content - take the endlessness of SSBM's trophy mode and apply it to creating dozens of secret characters and secret stages, and who knows where you could end up. From the looks of it, Snake won't be the only 3rd party participant (as indicated from the interviews - plus it would be REALLY silly if he was :roll: what was it, a celebrity endorsement?), so that could be a great way to expand the universe, as long as the 1st-party to 3rd-party ratio stays at a good 4:1 or higher.

The whole style seems radically different - not really sure how to take it, but I'm sure it'll be great. The brash title, the over-the-top super-moves, the dramatic arenas, the cinematic trailor, the heavy Nobuo music, the uncharacteristic fan-service, the addition of 3rd-party characters... none of these things are bad :) not at all - but they are definitely different. I think going WAY overboard on quantity of characters and arenas would be perfectly well in keeping with that paradigm shift - so bring it on :D :mrgreen:

[SirChadlyOC]

Ok time for some major speculation here.

On http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/index.html , Masahiro Sakurai, the director of SSBB, says that he is working with a studio that he cannot name. He goes on to mention that the studio had just finished a big game project, and were willing to work on the SSBB project. If Sakurai accepted the job in May of 2005, and the project he talks about finished a large-scale game soon afterwards, which studio might he be talking about? Which big game completed soon after E3 last year?

My first impulse is to guess Metroid Prime 2, which if true means that the studio is Retro Studios. The inclusion of the new Samus character helps support (but not prove) this theory. So what do you guys think?

Of course not, you fool, they're too busy working on MP3 to satisfy the masses.

Ahh, good point. That pretty much eliminates Retro as a posibility, so who else can we consider? Maybe Namco, who would have completed Mario Baseball and Tales of Symphonia around then (I think).

[wormguy]

Ok time for some major speculation here.

On http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/index.html , Masahiro Sakurai, the director of SSBB, says that he is working with a studio that he cannot name. He goes on to mention that the studio had just finished a big game project, and were willing to work on the SSBB project. If Sakurai accepted the job in May of 2005, and the project he talks about finished a large-scale game soon afterwards, which studio might he be talking about? Which big game completed soon after E3 last year?

My first impulse is to guess Metroid Prime 2, which if true means that the studio is Retro Studios. The inclusion of the new Samus character helps support (but not prove) this theory. So what do you guys think?

Of course not, you fool, they're too busy working on MP3 to satisfy the masses.

Ahh, good point. That pretty much eliminates Retro as a posibility, so who else can we consider? Maybe Namco, who would have completed Mario Baseball and Tales of Symphonia around then (I think).

Namco isn't really a specific dev studio, and Tales of Symphonia was 2004, am I right? Let's try to come up with some more independent dev companies rather than large-scale producers...personally, none come to mind right now, but if anyone has any ideas...

[Dhsu]

Snake's taunt should be like Luigi's in that it deals 1-3% damage, in that, Snake takes a smoke off a cigerette then puts it out on a character nearby.
I think it's more likely that it'd actually hurt Snake, just like in the MGS games. It would be the ultimate insult, to finish off an opponent with a taunt that causes self-inflicted damage. :D

[Infinity's End]

there's a few things that need to be laid to rest:

Sonic was already in his own fighting game. Sega and Nintendo hate each other. This is 1993. What are you thinking!!?!

Doesn't ANYONE remember Dream Mix TV World Fighters? Oh, I guess not since it was never released in the US.
So, this will be Mr. Solid Snake's 2nd game where he is to be featured as a playable fighter. Let's look at the roster:

Bomberman, Master Higgins (from Adventure Island), Optimus Prime (from Transformers), Simon Belmont (from Castlevania), the Mascot from Konami’s Baseball series, characters from BeyBlade and Licca (from Licca family and friends). Solid Snake, Moai from Arkanoid, and many more... I really wish I could find the official website, it had the whole roster and cool pics.
UPDATE: Well, after some research, the website used to be worldfighters.com, but it seems it no longer exists. Just goes to show how much of a failure the game was!

Also - Capcom has featured Megaman in tons of other fighting games already so the chances that they'll put him in SSBB is really low. I think Snake is just in there because Kojima wanted him to be. That's it, plain and simple. Otherwise, we're just going to get Nintendo characters, and that's that.

and sorry if someone's already mentioned this...don't really want to skim 20 pages of "oh god I want so-and-so to be in the next Smash!"

[Mr. Wizard]

Speaking of Dream Mix TV World Fighters...

Ever since I heard Konami was already on board with this thing, I'm personally hoping for the inclusion of a whip-brandishing Belmont, either Simon or Trevor. Cross-crash supermove? Oh hell yes. May be a tad overpowered, though. :-P I highly doubt seeing a Belmont in SSB:B will happen, but I highly doubted the Snake news when I first heard it.

Dare to dream.

[Kal aMari]

In all likeness, I think that Sonic is the only third-party character with any real chance of making it in. Yes, playing as Belmont, Crash, Ryu, Dan, or one of the other million TP characters mentioned (or, as an ultimate nose-thumb, the Spartan :lol: ) would be pretty damn cool. However, bear in mind that the only reason why Snake made it is that Kojima practically begged Shiggy to put him in. So far, there's been only one other character whose creator has been serious about including in Smash Bros., and that's Sonic. In an interview several months ago, Yuji Naka mentioned that he would have loved to see Sonic in SSBM, and that he had talked to Miyamato about the manner. That sounds like more work than Kojima's done towards pushing Snake.

Going by this (and it really hurts my pride to say it), it looks like Sonic is the new shoo-in for SSBB.

[/$0.02 from a newb]

[wormguy]

That's unfortunate, if there's one character I don't want to see in SSB, it's Sonic. Seeing as his primary attack is jump.

[Mouser X]

Sonic has been in a fighting game before. I think it was called Sonic Fighters, and it was on the arcade. I've wanted to try it out (via emulation) but I don't know what arcade system it was on, and I'm not even sure what the game was called, so I haven't put much effort into finding it. Though, from what I've read, it was actually started as a joke because one of the developers was bored. The boss guy liked it, so they developed it further, and released it. I seem to recall that it's good for a few laughs, but that it wasn't really a lasting game. Also, who's to say that Sonic can't have some new moves? Sure, a spin attack is necessary, but it should be a short burst thing. Personly, I'd love to see Sonic in SSBB. I've always wanted to have a fight between him and Mario (or vice-versa, however you want to look at it).

I must admit that I've never gotten further than 3 or 4 stages (if even that far) in a Sonic game, so I'm not a *huge* fan of the series. I do love the music though, and I think as a character that Sonic is awesome (perhaps not the "newer" Sonic, I'm more familiar with the Genesis Sonic). Actually, in Sonic Robo Blast 2 I've gotten somewhat far (at least to stage 3, perhaps to stage 4), but that's a fan-made game, so it doesn't exactly count. And, I always play as Tails and fly over everything... Really, good game, I think, but I still avoid direct "combat." Either way though, I'd still like to see Sonic in SSBB. Perhaps with Tails and Knuckles even (though, just Sonic himself would be good enough for me). Mouser X out.

[KWarp]

They could totally do a level based on the insides of Nova.
I know kwarp would cream over that :D
Like the Halberd isn't already awesome enough. :roll:

That's unfortunate, if there's one character I don't want to see in SSB, it's Mario. Seeing as his primary attack is jump.

fixed :P

[JSZilla]

Bump. For love.

This trailer is so damn sexy.

[Kal aMari]

They could totally do a level based on the insides of Nova.
I know kwarp would cream over that :D
Like the Halberd isn't already awesome enough. :roll:

That's unfortunate, if there's one character I don't want to see in SSB, it's Mario. Seeing as his primary attack is jump.

fixed :P

Amen, and amen. I think I was wiggin' out more over the Halberd than ZS Samus.

[Kureejii Lea]

Sonic has been in a fighting game before. I think it was called Sonic Fighters, and it was on the arcade. I've wanted to try it out (via emulation) but I don't know what arcade system it was on, and I'm not even sure what the game was called, so I haven't put much effort into finding it. Though, from what I've read, it was actually started as a joke because one of the developers was bored. The boss guy liked it, so they developed it further, and released it. I seem to recall that it's good for a few laughs, but that it wasn't really a lasting game.

Sonic the Fighters, aka Sonic Championship. It was fun in a silly way, but yeah, not too deep.

There's also Sonic Battle. The gameplay wasn't too hot, but oddly enough the story had more to it than usual and the sprite animation was fairly nice.

EDIT: So, uh, has this (http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/index.html) been posted yet? Supposedly they're accepting suggestions for characters and music.

Now you have the chance to decide the future of your favorite fighting game! The poll allows for submissions of both character and music suggestiong. Voice your opinions now! The poll can be found here...

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/index.html




This page explains the poll, just click the button at the bottom of the page to start.

Doing so will take you to the poll page. Enter a nickname in the first box. The second box has a drop down where you can choose from three selections. To sugest a character, choose the option that reads

キャラクターについての思い入れ

The third box (the really big one) is where you insert the body of your suggestion. I chose to include both an english and a Japanese version. If you choose to do the same, just write your english message, and copy it into google translator and select 'english to japanese'. Then copy the japanese text into the poll message box under the english version.

Although the site is in Japanese, you can easily make it through with the aid of google translator...



http://www.google.com/language_tools


Voice your opinion now! Here is an example of how your finished message may look.

■ニックネーム
Nintendofan_7
■投稿テーマ
キャラクターについての思い入れ
■投稿内容

I would really like to see Tingle as a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. After his great influence, he deserves it! He could also have some awesome attacks...just imagine his kool-oh- im-pa attack! Please put Tingle in Super Smash Bros. Brawl! I know a LOT of people would appreciate it. I'm sorry if this message is hard to read, I don't speak Japanese.

私は実際に極度の粉砕Brosのプレーできる特性としてうずきを見ることを望む。 口論。彼の大きい影響が、彼それに値した後! 彼はまた…攻撃をある驚くばかりの攻撃を彼のkoolオハイオ州impa想像してちょうどもらうことができ る! 極度の粉砕Brosの置かれたうずき。 口論! 私は多くの人々が感謝したことを知っている。私はこのメッセージが読みにくければ残念私話さない日本語をで ある。 私は訳者を使用した。 再度ありがとう!

[TheCatPhysician]

Given the huge team working on SSBB, and the increased size of the storage capacity of Wii media over GC media, I'm curious as to the quantity of characters/levels.

I mean, sure, there were PLENTY of characters and PLENTY of arenas in SSBM - but why not MORE 8) why not overwhelm us with sheer vastness of content - take the endlessness of SSBM's trophy mode and apply it to creating dozens of secret characters and secret stages, and who knows where you could end up. From the looks of it, Snake won't be the only 3rd party participant (as indicated from the interviews - plus it would be REALLY silly if he was :roll: what was it, a celebrity endorsement?), so that could be a great way to expand the universe, as long as the 1st-party to 3rd-party ratio stays at a good 4:1 or higher.

The whole style seems radically different - not really sure how to take it, but I'm sure it'll be great. The brash title, the over-the-top super-moves, the dramatic arenas, the cinematic trailor, the heavy Nobuo music, the uncharacteristic fan-service, the addition of 3rd-party characters... none of these things are bad :) not at all - but they are definitely different. I think going WAY overboard on quantity of characters and arenas would be perfectly well in keeping with that paradigm shift - so bring it on :D :mrgreen:

I want alot of new characters too, but you have to remember that having balanced characters is also very important. It takes alot of testing to get all the characters balanced, so they can't just keep piling them all on. It takes alot of time for each one. Probably the biggest mistake in Melee, balance-wise, was chain grabbing. Mainly chain grabbing with Sheik. Sheik can chaingrab certain characters so badly (Bowser, Link, Pichu, etc.), it's basically like if a good Sheik gets one grab on that character, they will get chaingrabbed to death, no questions asked. They are more than likely going to fix this in SSBB, but other stuff will be discovered.

As a competitive Smash player, balancing the characters is very important to me. Of course, it's impossible to make the game completely balanced, and it would probably suck if it was. But people will discover and exploit everything they can, so the developers need to make sure to do alot of testing for each character to keep the game an excellent fighting game with an insane amount of depth, like Melee.

For the record, chain grabbing, or chain throwing, is just chaining together throws. Sheik's is one of the most famous. She uses her down throw to chain-grab, which, on most characters, pops the character right up for another grab. Certain characters can be chain-grabbed to really high percents, and then finished off with something like a down throw to forward air (Sheik's forward air has insane knockback, so this works out a little too nicely for her). It is possible to escape chain grabbing though; making your DI (directional influence, just pressing a direction in the air to make your character move that way) as unpredictable as possible, and DI'ing towards a platform (if there is one on the stage). But if it's Sheik vs. someone like Bowser or Link on Final Destination, and the Sheik is relatively good at chasing DI, the Link or Bowser is not going to have fun.

Heh, I got kind of carried away, sorry. I just love talking about Smash Bros. :D

Oh, and I just realized something: If the game is online, hopefully they will just patch some of the stuff that gets discovered that really throws the balance off. But hopefully if they do this, they won't take out every little thing that gets discovered. It would be really bad if they took out something essential like wavedashing or jump-cancelling shines, just because a bunch of noobs complained about getting beat by people who take the game seriously enough to discover cool things. Holy CRAP that would suck. Maybe they could make it so that when you go online, it automatically downloads the latest patches, but then when you play against someone, you can have a little option thing where you can choose to remove certain patches. It would be kind of an obscure option that you don't have to set every time, because casual gamers wouldn't care about it. They would just want to get in the game and start smashing (don't get me wrong, this is perfectly fine.)

[Drake5017]

Speaking of Dream Mix TV World Fighters...

Ever since I heard Konami was already on board with this thing, I'm personally hoping for the inclusion of a whip-brandishing Belmont, either Simon or Trevor. Cross-crash supermove? Oh hell yes. May be a tad overpowered, though. :-P I highly doubt seeing a Belmont in SSB:B will happen, but I highly doubted the Snake news when I first heard it.

Dare to dream.

Well if anyone cares to speculate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Drake5017/CV.jpg

This looks like a level tailored to CV. I fact in the red circle I painted looks to be a coffin standing up. Perhaps Simon Belmont might be in the cards......or my eyes are playing tricks on me and this is a Fire Emblem level.

[Arek the Absolute]

Here is something to discuss about:
Listen to the part where they are fighting on top of mushroom kingdom's castle. Right after mario smash attacks, you hear a sound that sounds very similar to donkey kong's smash attack.
DK TO BE IN SEQUEL? OMG

Seriously though, lyrics plz

[Dhsu]

It would be really bad if they took out something essential like wavedashing or jump-cancelling shines, just because a bunch of noobs complained about getting beat by people who take the game seriously enough to discover cool things.
I doubt they'll take out WDing, as it was an intentional part of Melee. Perhaps not to the extent that people have been using it, but intentional nonetheless.

[Infinity's End]

i must say, the lyrics are VERY Uematsu.
here's the lyrics for you whiners:

ali babaaaaa
eee eee oooooo
solissyhassissbeeeee
fafa fee hassy mommyyyyyyy

ali babaaaaa
eee eee oooooo
foody flay faaaaairrrrr
to be eating a spooooooon

all of youuuuu are idioooooots
all of he froooom idiooooots?

bell asshat beeboos
weeeeee found a
they found a need to speak ONE DAY
weeee plaaaaaaaaayyyy

and I was going to translate more, but I got bored. can't blame me for trying :D

[Dhsu]

Speaking of Dream Mix TV World Fighters...

Ever since I heard Konami was already on board with this thing, I'm personally hoping for the inclusion of a whip-brandishing Belmont, either Simon or Trevor. Cross-crash supermove? Oh hell yes. May be a tad overpowered, though. :-P I highly doubt seeing a Belmont in SSB:B will happen, but I highly doubted the Snake news when I first heard it.

Dare to dream.

Well if anyone cares to speculate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Drake5017/CV.jpg

This looks like a level tailored to CV. I fact in the red circle I painted looks to be a coffin standing up. Perhaps Simon Belmont might be in the cards......or my eyes are playing tricks on me and this is a Fire Emblem level.
That looks like part of the painting on the back wall.

[TheCatPhysician]

i must say, the lyrics are VERY Uematsu.
here's the lyrics for you whiners:

ali babaaaaa
eee eee oooooo
solissyhassissbeeeee
fafa fee hassy mommyyyyyyy

ali babaaaaa
eee eee oooooo
foody flay faaaaairrrrr
to be eating a spooooooon

all of youuuuu are idioooooots
all of he froooom idiooooots?

bell asshat beeboos
weeeeee found a
they found a need to speak ONE DAY
weeee plaaaaaaaaayyyy

and I was going to translate more, but I got bored. can't blame me for trying :D

HAHA! That is so awesome! Oh man, it sounds like that's what they're actually saying.

[Kiyosuki]

I wonder if this SSB title is going to be tailored around the Wii controller...and if so then how I wonder.

Or if it'll be mostly regulated to the small, traditional controller also announced.

[TheCatPhysician]

How will Super Smash Bros. for Wii take advantage of the controller?

Mr. Sakurai: We've actually been working with some different ideas, and we've found that trying to implement too much of the motion sensor could actually get in the way of the game. We're looking at trying to keep the controls simple, as they have been in past games. Of course, you all know that the Wii hardware has ports for the GameCube controller as well. So, I'll just say now that you may not want to throw away your GameCube controllers just yet!

I can't be any happier with the way they decided to use the controller. On Smashboards, we didn't even consider it a possibility that they would let you use the Gamecube controller, because Nintendo said you won't be able to use Gamecube controllers for Wii games (that was a long time ago).

Don't get me wrong, I'm very, very excited about the Wiimote's features, it's just I'm glad they didn't use them in Smash, because it would change the game way too much. And...it just wouldn't work.

[Kiyosuki]

Interesting...I missed that little bit of info.

Going with Nintendo's motif of having the best backwards compatability of any system to date, I wouldn't be surprised if that went for the controllers too.

I remember last year they mentioned that the Wii would be able to potentially use every Nintendo controller in history with the right gear (as an official feature rather than a third party accessory.) I haven't heard more about that this year though, but its not a farcry.

[Binjovi]

i must say, the lyrics are VERY Uematsu.
here's the lyrics for you whiners:

ali babaaaaa
eee eee oooooo
solissyhassissbeeeee
fafa fee hassy mommyyyyyyy

ali babaaaaa
eee eee oooooo
foody flay faaaaairrrrr
to be eating a spooooooon

all of youuuuu are idioooooots
all of he froooom idiooooots?

bell asshat beeboos
weeeeee found a
they found a need to speak ONE DAY
weeee plaaaaaaaaayyyy

and I was going to translate more, but I got bored. can't blame me for trying :D

Aaaaaaaaah! It's got me!
Eee-aaay!
Oooh! Iiiit's go-ot meee!
So cheese, let me be.
We only need four cats
we molest ve-ey (very?) ooooon (hard?)

They ate a dog bone.
Would noooooot know it's pain.
Not faaair, seeeeeee?

There I finished it because I'm not lazy. :lol:

I'm not entirely sure about some of it, 'cause it's a little hard to tell exactly what they're saying. The part you have that goes, "All of he froooooom idiooooots," sounds better and makes more sense as, "All they found are idioooots." Try it out.

On a more serious note, I would like to know what they're actually saying.

[Kiyosuki]

My friend mentioned this to me today.

With Snake in there, what if they made "cigs" an item? :D

[Strike911]

A Ciggarette Item would be cool. lol, bad for your health but damn it makes you look cool.

I just hope Snake's punches and kicks are the same as his attacks in the MGS games. Punch, punch, kick. Maybe his dash attack could be the roll that you can do. Whenever he grabs someone he always gets them from behind the neck when he holding them, and maybe his downward throw would be popping their neck and throwing them on the ground (That sounds a little too violent maybe for SSB... *shrugs*).

Maybe for alternate costumes we'll see MGS1 Snake, MGS2 Snake, MGS4 Snake, and maybe Liquid Snake. ^_^ If they felt really generous maybe they could throw in a Big Boss variant with a beard/trenchcoat and an eyepatch.

I wonder if they'll include any MGS items... maybe Chaff grenades... the screen goes a little fuzzy, not too much though, all scores are hidden breifly, temporarily makes Proxy mines useless, maybe disables homing functions of certain characters attacks, maybe even give the thrower a temporary half-visible/half-invisible fuzziness around them. *shrugs* Just throwing out ideas.

I bet we'll see Ration type health items showing up with all the various assortments of foods.

Maybe a military CYPHER that can be grabbed and tossed up into the air. It'll fly with you and automatically shoot at enemies like a drone gun. It wouldn't really have stopping power, but it would rack up 1% hits real fast if you stayed in its line of sight. Once its out of ammo (or is destroyed by your enemies) it flies away or blows up.

I wouldn't mind a super long bandana that when used in combination with certain items gave you infinite ammo for brief period of time. For example, infinite Super Scope ammo or Ray Gun ammo or Stars from the Wand, until the bandana wears off wears off. Maybe each shot you make, makes the bandana shorter, so instead of wasting that particular gun's ammo, you're using the bandana in its place. Maybe it could give you a very slight power boost to your ranged attacks? *shrugs*

What about a stun grenade? Make's a little pop and any characters caught in the tiny little burst of light would instantly be in "broken shield status."

Well, the Stinger is pretty obvious. Maybe it could lock on to enemies if you aim correctly with it, (Maybe hold A to aim, then use the control stick to adjust your angle, after you fire you can aim your weapon and it'll move to wear you're aiming similar to the way its controlled in MGS.). The projectile would be very similar to Samus's heat seeking missiles, except you only get three shots and its faster and stronger than Samus's.

HahaHHAHA!! What about an item that turns the character old and Grey, makes their attacks weak and they get slow! lol. And they get a HORRIBLY ugly Grey mustache, *Cough* MSG4 Snake *cough*

[Hum4n After All]

So it seems that the characters have some sort of a "special" after they get the SSB logo thingy.
Just imagine what the other characters will have!

[RocketSniper]

Hehehe, it's just a cardboard box. Which is strangely the only character level non-movable object. Hmm, wonder what's in it. Get outta the way.

!

*Superscopes snake to death*

[BlueMage]

Snake finally returns to where he belongs .... we've missed you Snake, we've missed you.

[The Author]

Speaking of Dream Mix TV World Fighters...

Ever since I heard Konami was already on board with this thing, I'm personally hoping for the inclusion of a whip-brandishing Belmont, either Simon or Trevor. Cross-crash supermove? Oh hell yes. May be a tad overpowered, though. :-P I highly doubt seeing a Belmont in SSB:B will happen, but I highly doubted the Snake news when I first heard it.

Dare to dream.

Well if anyone cares to speculate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Drake5017/CV.jpg

This looks like a level tailored to CV. I fact in the red circle I painted looks to be a coffin standing up. Perhaps Simon Belmont might be in the cards......or my eyes are playing tricks on me and this is a Fire Emblem level.
That looks like part of the painting on the back wall.

However, that painting on the wall looks a little like the Dracula crest. (Inverted bat wings over a white cross).

[Ninja-san]

The level could also be from somthing in Twilight Princess. We still havent seen the whole game. Im just being skeptical on it being from CV just cause if Simon was to be shown they would have done it in the trailer

*edit* actually its reminding me of that church in resident evil 4

[The Author]

The trailer only shows the initial characters.

Hidden characters or unlockable characters would not be shown in the trailer.

Think: Mr Game and Watch, or Young Link...

[Doulifée]

The trailer only shows the initial characters.

Hidden characters or unlockable characters would not be shown in the trailer.

Think: Mr Game and Watch, or Young Link...

I concur with that. you're not supposed to show everyone in a trailer. where is the surprise then?

[Bobwillis]

Zero Suit Samus used what looked either like a light saber or a light whip...

[The Author]

Zero Suit Samus used what looked either like a light saber or a light whip...

Long range stun gun, short range light whip blade....

...

Zero Suit Samus is gonna be a Belmont clone...

[!Nekko!]

Zero Suit Samus used what looked either like a light saber or a light whip...

Long range stun gun, short range light whip blade....

...

Zero Suit Samus is gonna be a Belmont clone...

Or Ivy one to an extent, thats what I picked up.

[The Author]

Except Ivy is most likely not in the game...

But there is a chance for a Belmont to be in the game. And the possible move set seems to indicate that samus would have a whip in addition to a ranged attack.

Simon Belmont could be a Samus clone, with the cross instead of the blaster...

[Mr. Wizard]

Simon Belmont could be a Samus clone, with the cross instead of the blaster...
Or daggers, or axes, or holy water. Or all three! I'm sure many of the sub-weapons will be included into his moveset if, indeed, one of the Belmonts is a character.

[!Nekko!]

I wasn't anticipating Ivy in the game, I was just referring to Samus's entrance reminding me of Ivy's. Now that I think bout it, Link did appear in SC2, so other characters from SC MIGHT be fair game. Its wholey unlikely, but so was Snake.

[Doulifée]

Simon Belmont could be a Samus clone, with the cross instead of the blaster...
Or daggers, or axes, or holy water. Or all three! I'm sure many of the sub-weapons will be included into his moveset if, indeed, one of the Belmonts is a character.

SNAKE VS METAL GIANT BELMONT. lol

with new character, that mean new fun challenge.

[Dhsu]

Hehehe, it's just a cardboard box. Which is strangely the only character level non-movable object. Hmm, wonder what's in it. Get outta the way.

!

*Superscopes snake to death*
Haha, they've got to put the red exclamation point in the game somehow.

[The Author]

Hehehe, it's just a cardboard box. Which is strangely the only character level non-movable object. Hmm, wonder what's in it. Get outta the way.

!

*Superscopes snake to death*
Haha, they've got to put the red exclamation point in the game somehow.

Look at the video:

Then pay attention to the front of the box.

[The Mutericator]

I wasn't anticipating Ivy in the game, I was just referring to Samus's entrance reminding me of Ivy's. Now that I think bout it, Link did appear in SC2, so other characters from SC MIGHT be fair game. Its wholey unlikely, but so was Snake.

Soul Calibur = Namco Bandai.

Metal Gear Solid = Konami.

Namco Bandai =/= Konami.

KNOW YOUR THIRD PARTIES, SOLDIER!

[Mr. Wizard]

My mind is stuck in Castlevania mode.

All of this is pure speculation and wishful thinking on my part, but if Simon Belmont ends up in the game his taunt absolutely has to be the Graveyard Duck giving him the silk bag to live longer.

[The wingless]

My mind is stuck in Castlevania mode.

All of this is pure speculation and wishful thinking on my part, but if Simon Belmont ends up in the game his taunt absolutely has to be the Graveyard Duck giving him the silk bag to live longer.

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard on the internet in recent memory

[Linearity]

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard on the internet in recent memory
That's going pretty damn far.

[Ninja-san]

I wasn't anticipating Ivy in the game, I was just referring to Samus's entrance reminding me of Ivy's. Now that I think bout it, Link did appear in SC2, so other characters from SC MIGHT be fair game. Its wholey unlikely, but so was Snake.

It would be pretty cool to see a soul calibur character since nintedno did give one of theirs like you said. I think another post mentioned cervantes which would rock :D

[Mr. Wizard]

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard on the internet in recent memory
Like tens of thousands of others on gaming sites such as these, I'm just throwing things out there. I would thank you for taking five seconds out of your time to reply, but your approval isn't necessary or required; in fact, nobody's approval is necessary or required. We know very little about the next Smash Brothers apart from what Nintendo has already shown us in the video. Vague statements in interviews that hint to possible additional 3rd party characters leads to speculation. A thread like this created well before the game's release date amounts to speculation. The majority of said speculation is not, nor will ever be, true -- much to your comfort, I'm sure.

Have a good day, Wingless. And thank you for your remix "Pearlsong." I enjoyed it.

[Sir_NutS]

for those who didn't know, konami already had its own smash bros clone for gamecube, in which was showcased simon belmont along other famous (although more known in japan) konami mascots.

I will look up the name and give you a link.

[Mr. Wizard]

for those who didn't know, konami already had its own smash bros clone for gamecube, in which was showcased simon belmont along other famous (although more known in japan) konami mascots.

I will look up the name and give you a link.
I think it was Dream Mix TV World Fighters, unless there's another one I'm unfamiliar with. Someone mentioned it a few pages ago.

[Jam Stunna]

It would be really bad if they took out something essential like wavedashing or jump-cancelling shines, just because a bunch of noobs complained about getting beat by people who take the game seriously enough to discover cool things.
I doubt they'll take out WDing, as it was an intentional part of Melee. Perhaps not to the extent that people have been using it, but intentional nonetheless.

If you watch the trailer closely, Mario actually does a wavedash. Right before Snake appears from underneath the box, Mario jumps into the air, wavedashes and does a down smash on Link.

[Sir_NutS]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/462/462190p1.html

Seems like solid snake was there too, which I didn't remember. I can see some of these characters, like bomberman and mister higgins, probably making an appereance in SSBB too.

EDIT: http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092203f.htm
...This is the most wacky and stupid mix of different characters ever.

[Arek the Absolute]

Man, even though they said that America would be getting the same version of the page japan got, they LIED.
Stupid japan being able to vote and not us.
Blasphemy! Blasphemy I say.
Oh and Beat totally over megaman. Beat got my vote.

[The wingless]

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard on the internet in recent memory
Like tens of thousands of others on gaming sites such as these, I'm just throwing things out there. I would thank you for taking five seconds out of your time to reply, but your approval isn't necessary or required; in fact, nobody's approval is necessary or required. We know very little about the next Smash Brothers apart from what Nintendo has already shown us in the video. Vague statements in interviews that hint to possible additional 3rd party characters leads to speculation. A thread like this created well before the game's release date amounts to speculation. The majority of said speculation is not, nor will ever be, true -- much to your comfort, I'm sure.

Have a good day, Wingless. And thank you for your remix "Pearlsong." I enjoyed it.

as with all my fans, I will destroy you.

[CE]

OMG, the wingless posted on my thread. By the way, are you working on the next Mortal Kombat?

[Arek the Absolute]

gg goes to mr wizard

[!Nekko!]

I wasn't anticipating Ivy in the game, I was just referring to Samus's entrance reminding me of Ivy's. Now that I think bout it, Link did appear in SC2, so other characters from SC MIGHT be fair game. Its wholey unlikely, but so was Snake.

Soul Calibur = Namco Bandai.

Metal Gear Solid = Konami.

Namco Bandai =/= Konami.

KNOW YOUR THIRD PARTIES, SOLDIER!

Sir! I was aware of that, Sir!. I wasn't drawing a comparison between the 3rd party companies, just pointing out Link in SC2 which could possibly mean Namco characters might make an appearance in SSB. Namco did help with Mario Baseball, so them and Nintendo are probably on atleast talking terms. :wink:

Anyway, what I'm getting at is SSB need mores Dig-Dug and Pac-Man and maybe some Katamari love.

[megadave]

I wasn't anticipating Ivy in the game, I was just referring to Samus's entrance reminding me of Ivy's. Now that I think bout it, Link did appear in SC2, so other characters from SC MIGHT be fair game. Its wholey unlikely, but so was Snake.

Soul Calibur = Namco Bandai.

Metal Gear Solid = Konami.

Namco Bandai =/= Konami.

KNOW YOUR THIRD PARTIES, SOLDIER!

Sir! I was aware of that, Sir!. I wasn't drawing a comparison between the 3rd party companies, just pointing out Link in SC2 which could possibly mean Namco characters might make an appearance in SSB. Namco did help with Mario Baseball, so them and Nintendo are probably on atleast talking terms. :wink:

Anyway, what I'm getting at is SSB need mores Dig-Dug and Pac-Man and maybe some Katamari love.

No.

[Dahlia]

I don't imagine it'd be too hard for a Castlevania character to slip in there. After all, Soma has sold many, many copies of games over two Nintendo systems now. He's fairly famous nowadays. I know the more hardcore CV fans will want Simon though.

What I'd really like to see is Lyndis from Fire Emblem. I bet it'd be pretty likely for her to make it in if the fans push for it. I already submitted her in the suggestion box thing.

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

I want Diddy and Dixie in the game as one character, just like Popo and Nana as the Ice Climbers. I imagine Diddy and Dixie sucking as individual characters.

Diddy's projectile weapon from DK64 can be a B. Cartwheel is Forward b. Diddy's rocket boosters + Dixie's hair could be an Up B. Down B would be a tag move to switch between both characters ala Zelda (as suggested by OCRE).

That would be sweet.

[Hadriel]

Castlevania, like Metal Gear, is another game that was originally on the NES. It's even made by Konami, to boot; it shouldn't be too hard to snag a vampire hunter or two.

[BlueMage]

As with Snake, it'd be good to see the Belmonts returning to their rightful home.

[Infinity's End]

Metroid's the best character. He's cool because he can shoot missiles!

[JoeFu]

Metroid's the best character. He's cool because he can shoot missiles!

Okay...

[[\(-_-)/]]

Metroid's the best character. He's cool because he can shoot missiles!

Okay...

Uumm..

[Infinity's End]

you guys didn't think I was actually SERIOUS, right? :lol:

[Hadriel]

We've had stupider people before.

So can anyone provide me with a link to a version of the trailer that doesn't fucking skip every three seconds?

[Aninymouse]

Metroid's the best character. He's cool because he can shoot missiles!

Okay...

Uumm..

How I shot missile?




But yeah. Brawl has me very excited. I never got all that good at Smash in the first place, sure, but I tried and I had a lot of fun. I actually got to about a high-to-moderate level for all of about two months. Used to main

DK
Mewtwo
Zelda

...but then I stopped playing around 2005.

Hopefully in 2007 I'll be seeing you guys around the Wii-nternet, smashing up Mew and DK again, if Nintendo knows what's good for them!

[The Xyco]

We've had stupider people before.

So can anyone provide me with a link to a version of the trailer that doesn't fucking skip every three seconds?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4503332649651467155&q=smash+brothers

Consider me late, but I just found out today that Snake is going to be in this game. I didn't believe it at first when a friend of mine told me, but then he showed me the trailer. Solid Snake sharing game space with Donkey Kong, Mario, Link, and Kirby: not in my most twisted LSD hallucinations did I see THAT one coming.


This E3 is jes' full of surprises.

[Tai_Zidek]

Me and a bud were talking the other day, and we agreed that a metriod should be an item in SSBB. When they apear they would be in little canisters, and you throw it at your enemy, it drains their health, then comes back to you and refills yours with what it was able to take from your opponent. Like the baby in Super Metriod (I have that right don't I?) that helps you out in the end. I think it would be a nice touch.

Another thing we thought about was that the different costums could be the character from different games. So say you pick Mario, he would have one of his 8-bit forms, then the Mario from Super Mario World, then Mario 64, Sunshine, and the last would be the Galaxy/SSBB Mario. They could even release those later as clone characters of Mario via a download, each with it's own powers, like SMB3 Mario using the raccoon suit for his Down + B, and Sunshine Mario able to use the Flud for his Up + B and B moves.

[Wipomatic]

I think a Sunshine Mario would be better than the Doc, as there's more chance for variety with moves and style of play.
Also three Links would be nice, Majora's mask one with masks for the B moves, Windwaker one with the grappling hook and Deku leaf and things and the TP one as seen in the video.

[CE]

I don't imagine it'd be too hard for a Castlevania character to slip in there. After all, Soma has sold many, many copies of games over two Nintendo systems now. He's fairly famous nowadays. I know the more hardcore CV fans will want Simon though.

What I'd really like to see is Lyndis from Fire Emblem. I bet it'd be pretty likely for her to make it in if the fans push for it. I already submitted her in the suggestion box thing.

Yes, her sword skills are 1337er then Marth's.

[Infinity's End]

I've been playing with Samus since the very first Smash. We actually started the first "SSB Club" at Ohio State. So Zero Suit Samus has me pretty freakin' exited.

I loved when people would come up while we were playing and be like, "Ness!?" Who the hell is that? What game is HE from!? and I slowly rolled my eyes and said he's the main character of Earthbound....

and then the same thing happened with Marth & Roy...or even Mr. G&W.

I went to E3 2001 (best E3 ever?) and all we did, basically, for 3 days straight, was play SSBM. The Nintendo booth, for god knows what reason, was really empty on day 3 - you could just walk up to a machine and play all you want. We even snuck into the secret black curtain booths and played SSBM on the big screens. Man that was something I'll never forget. You could only be 6 characters - but Samus was playable - and so was Peach, who would soon become my 3rd alt. next to DK.

So Brawl has me stunned - I am really concerned about how the WiFi connection is going to play out - Friend Codes and random strangers, it seems....

Also - Maybe they'll have AC powerups, like Mr. Resetti coming on the screen and bitching you out! How cool would that be?

God, it's a great time to be a gamer.

[Bren]

Seeing Meta Knight in that trailer sold me...

I now must buy a Revolution and this game.

[Dunther]

We've had stupider people before.

So can anyone provide me with a link to a version of the trailer that doesn't fucking skip every three seconds?

http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=9P6NY6XO

[Super-Duper Sombrero]

SSBB looks good. I hope they don's use Button-mashing combos like in mortal kombat, Soul Caliber, or any other fighting game. Granted, some are good, but I dont like the BBA><^BA< to grab your opponent.

[Decoy Octopus]

Seeing Meta Knight in that trailer sold me...

I now must buy a Revolution and this game.
Are you being a conscientious objector or are you just unaware that Revolution is no more?

[wormguy]

If they don't bring Ness back, I will cry.

I wonder, though, if this game will retain the feel of SSBM or radically change it like the jump from SSB to SSBM.

[Foxxiña]

SSBB looks good. I hope they don's use Button-mashing combos like in mortal kombat, Soul Caliber, or any other fighting game. Granted, some are good, but I dont like the BBA><^BA< to grab your opponent.Why the hell would they do that? That's the complete anti-thesis of Super Smash Bros.

[Zeklan]

I can't wait to use Pit.
Don't know why...
He just looks like he'd be fun to use.

Also, I'd like to see Ephriam from Fire Emblem.
He uses a spear and if thier gonna throw weapons into
the mix, I'd like to see a little variety.

I think, if any other Fire Emblem people get in
it will probably be Ike from the GC Fire Emblem.

[JoeFu]

I agree on Ephriam, that dude was pretty cool, if they put him in there, then they should also put Erika in the game too, maybe those guys can replace Marth or something, but I hope Marth is still in the game.

[Zan-kun]

This may have been posted already, but since I haven't read the whole thread, I'll post it anyway.

You can post your submissions for characters/music in English! (http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=6819)

You read that right. Just follow the directions given in the link and you're set.

kthxbye

[Geoffrey Taucer]

EVERYBODY REQUEST MORE EARTHBOUND CHARACTERS

[Sag Ee Mana]

EVERYBODY REQUEST MORE EARTHBOUND CHARACTERS

Too late :lol:

[anthonium]

Has anybody thought about BONK being in Smash Brothers already?

[G_D]

I don't think anyone has posted this (http://www.smashbros.com/en/main.html) yet.

[Darkmetamorphasis]

Seeing Meta Knight in that trailer sold me...

I now must buy a Revolution and this game.
Are you being a conscientious objector or are you just unaware that Revolution is no more?
Actually I still call it the Revolution rather than Wii, it just stuck with me since it was first talked about. Meta Knight being in there was a good plus. Though I really like how they added Wario Ware! Wario. That was something I've been talking about. Though I'm sure this has been talked about also, I never really got the purpose of the Nintendog? Perhaps a online feature to mess with others?

[Dexie]

I think, if any other Fire Emblem people get in
it will probably be Ike from the GC Fire Emblem.

Look at the castle in the trailer, notably the flags.

They have the symbol of that one country from Path of Radiance.

And since the Wii FE is a sequel to PoR....I'm guessing someone from that game is showing up in Brawl. ^^

[Jam Stunna]

And since the Wii FE is a sequel to PoR....

Source?

[Dexie]

Edit: Bah, can't find the link, but it involved one of the characters looking a lot like Sothe from PoR.

[Zeklan]

Edit: Bah, can't find the link, but it involved one of the characters looking a lot like Sothe from PoR.

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/706/706206/fire-emblem-20060509002122577.jpg
No tell me that don't look like Sothe.

[cobaltstarfire]

Edit: Bah, can't find the link, but it involved one of the characters looking a lot like Sothe from PoR.

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/706/706206/fire-emblem-20060509002122577.jpg
No tell me that don't look like Sothe.

Looks like the rogue character from Sacred Stones to me...maybe even just a generic rogue even.....

[Ramaniscence]

More like GREAT DEITY LINK, DAMNIT.

[Murmeli Walan]

I requested Soda Popinski, Star Man (from Pro Wrestling), and Ludwig Von Koopa.

Man, the wait for this game is gonna be sheer torture.

[The Author]

Agreed.

[Murmeli Walan]

Agreed.

Yeah, I've been excited about games before, but never like this. I've even noticed that I've watched the trailer at least once a day since it came out. The same goes for Nobuo's theme.

Hopefully, this doesn't drive me insane.

[Sag Ee Mana]

50 characters ? 40 stages ? More maybe ?

2006 will be an everlasting year :lol:
We still have the official site, hoping for the next updates...

[Zeklan]

I've even noticed that I've watched the trailer at least once a day since it came out. The same goes for Nobuo's theme.

Hopefully, this doesn't drive me insane.

:lol:
You too, huh?

[Red Shadow]

I do believe I just submitted a suggestion for Captain Olimar to be a playable character were he not already.

[CE]

Agreed.

Yeah, I've been excited about games before, but never like this. I've even noticed that I've watched the trailer at least once a day since it came out. The same goes for Nobuo's theme.

Hopefully, this doesn't drive me insane.

My thoughts and actions exactly.

[The Author]

I just put SSBM back in my cube and I realised I was missing the last set of trophies from All-Star mode.

It's been a while though and I put it on very easy.

So much fun.

[ZangZip]

I've heard rumors (rumors being the operative word here) that Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles will all be involved. (Like I said, RUMOR)

[The Author]

There has been official talk about maybe getting sonic in.

I guess it's up to sega.

[KakTheInfected]

I've never understood why people like Sonic so much. It seems to me that you can beat all of his 2D games just by holding right on the control pad.

[The Author]

I've never understood why people like Sonic so much. It seems to me that you can beat all of his 2D games just by holding right on the control pad.

Now you go ahead and try that.

You won't get past level 1.

(Plus you could claim the same thing about Mario,s 2-d games.)

[KakTheInfected]

Obviously I wasn't being literal, but most stages you can breeze through just by running to the right and jumping over a few obstacles. And if you get hit you just scramble to pick up one of your rings while you're briefly immune.

I wouldn't say it's the same for Mario's 2D games. When you get hit, you lose your powerup and depending on what that powerup was, one more hit will kill you.

[CE]

Obviously I wasn't being literal, but most stages you can breeze through just by running to the right and jumping over a few obstacles. And if you get hit you just scramble to pick up one of your rings while you're briefly immune.

I wouldn't say it's the same for Mario's 2D games. When you get hit, you lose your powerup and depending on what that powerup was, one more hit will kill you.

But it's about the speed, the music, the rush of going at high speeds like no 2D game ever allowed before. The whole level design is pure genius. Not like I can say that for the latter Sonics...

I just put SSBM back in my cube and I realised I was missing the last set of trophies from All-Star mode.

It's been a while though and I put it on very easy.

So much fun.

Yeah it is. Just been polishing up my Ganondorf skills with my brother. Well... On my brother. He's all like: "OMG LINK IS TEH PERFECT 2 BEAT GANONDURF!"
"Uhh... no it's not. Here let me show you."

STOCK 3 ALL ITEMS ON MEDIUM, STAGE: FINAL DESTINATION

I win. Rematch. I win. No items. I win. 3 different stages. I win. I gotta get my friends over...

[KakTheInfected]

But it's about the speed, the music, the rush of going at high speeds like no 2D game ever allowed before. The whole level design is pure genius. Not like I can say that for the latter Sonics...

The problem I have with it is that while you're using that speed, you skip a large portion of the stage. Yes, you could explore the whole thing, but why? Sonic doesn't move very fast if you do that...

[cobaltstarfire]

The problem I have with it is that while you're using that speed, you skip a large portion of the stage. Yes, you could explore the whole thing, but why? Sonic doesn't move very fast if you do that...

There really was a bit of an exploration and skill factor to the orignal sonic games. I'd even hazzard to say there was more to the Sonic levels then to the Mario ones because there are so many different paths you can take through them, wereas mario is just puttering from start to finish and jumping on the enemies.

They aren't really much different to me gameplay wise, only you have to have slightly better reflexes and control in a sonic game to not die.

For the record, everytime you get hit by something your rings fly further away and don't stick around as long, so if you're really crappy at a sonic game and get hit alot eventualy you'll be trying to hold onto that one last ring or else die.

But this is a smash bros thread...so

I personaly do hope to see atleast sonic knuckles and tails in the games, it's be cool to pit the mario and sonic franchise against each other. That and I'm a bit of a sonic fangirl.

[NeoTitan]

I would like to see some Square-Enix characters in the game. Cloud, Auron, Crono, Frog, and Sora would be pretty cool.

[Ferret]

Good luck getting Square characters in a nintendo game.
Because last time I checked Squeenix didn't want to honor Nintendo with licensing out any of their characters; plus Square's a third-party developer anyway and up to now all the characters have been from first party (nintendo directly) or a second party development house (creatures, for example).

[NeoTitan]

I know that it's doubtful, but I would still like to see it.

....hmm....I wasn't aware that...err KONAMI (it could of happened to anybody)... was a second party developer (Solid Snake)....

[Bobwillis]

I know that it's doubtful, but I would still like to see it.

....hmm....I wasn't aware that Konami was a second party developer (Solid Snake)....

[Sag Ee Mana]

I know that it's doubtful, but I would still like to see it.

....hmm....I wasn't aware that Capcom was a second party developer (Solid Snake)....

Konami ?


So, I've always to play a SSB game with SoM, Chrono, FF (6,etc) characters ...
Maybe one day Square will do the big one, but if it's like Jump Super Stars, it would be less interesting than the true Smash Bros :P
However, I'm ready for that kind of piece of museum !

[JoeFu]

Why does everybody want Square characters in the game so badly?

If you want to play around with Cloud in a fighting game, go pick up Ergheiz or something. It would be cool, but its nothing to drool over. I hope Nintendo just puts most of the Nintendo people in first before adding others.

[Ferret]

I reiterate that we won't likely be seeing any square characters, so stop speculating on them already. Instead think about what other second party chars (and for the record Konami is a third party but they have given Nintendo permission to use Solid snake, thus his appearance in the trailer) will be appearing.

[Sag Ee Mana]

Err... I wanted to say a SSB-"like" game, sorry. Mistake.
Because I'm thinking about that even before Smahs Bros 64 existed :P
(that was a dream when I played on my SNES ^^)

[JoeFu]

If anything, Nintendo just HAS to put Reggie in the game. That would be so awesome if they did that for fun.

But if Nintendo was to add more characters from third-party people, I would think Viewtiful Joe would be a good choice, seeing how it was a better seller on the GC instead of the PS2.

[NeoTitan]

Capcom...Konami...same thing. Ok, so I just failed at life and mixed up two high-profile developers. I'll go kill myself to make up for it.

Here is a new suggestion: Jesus Christ.

[TheLeviathan]

I would like to see some Square-Enix characters in the game. Cloud, Auron, Crono, Frog, and Sora would be pretty cool.

More like Geno and Mallow :D . It would actually make sense if they were in SSBB since they were in an actual mario game. We just have to hope that Nintendo can get the rights to them.

[Stealthshark]

More like Geno and Mallow

[Volt]

Geno made a tiny appearance in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. I think there might be some possibility of him getting in Smash, but I wouldn't count on it.

[Mr. Wizard]

If anything, Nintendo just HAS to put Reggie in the game. That would be so awesome if they did that for fun.
Only if he kicks ass and takes names as a supermove. :wink:

I've honestly been thinking about the music more than any new characters. I wonder what nostalgic bit of goodness they will draw from the Kid Icarus soundtrack? What music will be played in the MGS level (if there is one)?

[wormguy]

If anything, Nintendo just HAS to put Reggie in the game. That would be so awesome if they did that for fun.
Only if he kicks ass and takes names as a supermove. :wink:

I've honestly been thinking about the music more than any new characters. I wonder what nostalgic bit of goodness they will draw from the Kid Icarus soundtrack? What music will be played in the MGS level (if there is one)?

Ooh, the possibilities of an MGS level...
They've already seem to have done a good job with Metaknight's airship.

[Dunther]

If anything, Nintendo just HAS to put Reggie in the game. That would be so awesome if they did that for fun.
Only if he kicks ass and takes names as a supermove. :wink:

I've honestly been thinking about the music more than any new characters. I wonder what nostalgic bit of goodness they will draw from the Kid Icarus soundtrack? What music will be played in the MGS level (if there is one)?

I hope for the Rex's lair.....maybe ON the Rex!

[Raenok]

If anything, Nintendo just HAS to put Reggie in the game. That would be so awesome if they did that for fun.
Only if he kicks ass and takes names as a supermove. :wink:

I've honestly been thinking about the music more than any new characters. I wonder what nostalgic bit of goodness they will draw from the Kid Icarus soundtrack? What music will be played in the MGS level (if there is one)?

I hope for the Rex's lair.....maybe ON the Rex!

Even better: Snake's supermove.

[Calpis]

If anything, Nintendo just HAS to put Reggie in the game. That would be so awesome if they did that for fun.
Only if he kicks ass and takes names as a supermove. :wink:

I've honestly been thinking about the music more than any new characters. I wonder what nostalgic bit of goodness they will draw from the Kid Icarus soundtrack? What music will be played in the MGS level (if there is one)?

I hope for the Rex's lair.....maybe ON the Rex!

Even better: Snake's supermove.Maybe CQC?

[The Instrument of GAWD]

Hmm, can't help that this talk of Solid Snake is a joke or a hoax... like Sonic and Tails was for SSBM.

[KakTheInfected]

Hmm, can't help that this talk of Solid Snake is a joke or a hoax... like Sonic and Tails was for SSBM.

I shouldn't have to ask this but, you are aware that it's an absolute fact that Snake is in the game right?

[The Instrument of GAWD]

Hmm, can't help that this talk of Solid Snake is a joke or a hoax... like Sonic and Tails was for SSBM.

I shouldn't have to ask this but, you are aware that it's an absolute fact that Snake is in the game right?

No, I haven't been following news of this new SSB and/or this Wii thing.

[The Pancake]

This game would be perfect if Segata Sanshiro were a character.... (Theme and all).

[Necrotic]

Hmm, can't help that this talk of Solid Snake is a joke or a hoax... like Sonic and Tails was for SSBM.

I shouldn't have to ask this but, you are aware that it's an absolute fact that Snake is in the game right?

No, I haven't been following news of this new SSB and/or this Wii thing.

Check the end of this (http://www.smashbros.com/en/movie/index.html) video.


-Nick

[TheRedBob]

New mix made me think of this...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl needs one character more than any other. Rayman.

[J2L]

New mix made me think of this...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl needs one character more than any other. Rayman.

not a bad choice, but i think it needs someone else ever more, and im not sure if anyone has said it yet but, Viewtiful Joe.

[eternal Zero]

New mix made me think of this...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl needs one character more than any other. Rayman.

not a bad choice, but i think it needs someone else ever more, and im not sure if anyone has said it yet but, Viewtiful Joe.

He's getting his own sort of party smash game, isn't he? Or has he already gotten it? I haven't played the series since I fully completed the first one.

[JoeFu]

New mix made me think of this...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl needs one character more than any other. Rayman.

not a bad choice, but i think it needs someone else ever more, and im not sure if anyone has said it yet but, Viewtiful Joe.

He's getting his own sort of party smash game, isn't he? Or has he already gotten it? I haven't played the series since I fully completed the first one.

Yeah, the game came out already.

Anyways, I found on a different forum that found that the castle level was from FE:POR, so we may see the character from the game.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/juno500/SSBB6.jpg

The flag is supposed to be the emblem of one the nations there.

[AzureZeal]

Nobody's mentioned anyone from Jet Force Gemini, yet? Playing Mizar does seem pretty interesting.

[J2L]

Anyways, I found on a different forum that found that the castle level was from FE:POR, so we may see the character from the game.

FE:POR...
:?:

[JoeFu]

Kay, you quoted it wrong, and it's Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance.

[J2L]

thanx and the quote comment wasnt needed btw

[Kal aMari]

Nobody's mentioned anyone from Jet Force Gemini, yet? Playing Mizar does seem pretty interesting.

Seeing as the entire JFG universe is currently second party to Microsoft, that's not likely.

[CubeNES]

Little Mac from Punch Out!!

He must be in the game. 'Nuff said.

[Razumen]

To me, Sonic doesn't seem very likely to appear in SSBB, unlike Snake he doesn't have any past on a Nintendo system (Other than as a rival). But I guess crazier stuff has happened.

I'd really like to see Ryu Hayabusa from the Ninja Gaiden series in SSBB though, he just has so much potential for ass-kickery it'd be shame if he doesn't make it.

[Binjovi]

To me, Sonic doesn't seem very likely to appear in SSBB, unlike Snake he doesn't have any past on a Nintendo system (Other than as a rival). But I guess crazier stuff has happened.

Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Advance, Sonic Advance 2, Sonic Advance 3, Sonic Rush, etc... Sure they're all relatively new (and the first few are ports), but so is Path of Radiance (if that's truly the castle in the trailer). Sega also worked on F-Zero GX (awesome game), and are currently making a Wii exclusive Sonic. I wouldn't rule them out that quickly.

To those that would like Knuckles in the game, I have to disagree. As much as I like him, his ability to float endlessly AND climb walls would make him too difficult to knock off and keep off. Sure they could gimp him, but I'd rather him not be present than suck. If I was going to pick three Sonic Characters it'd be Sonic, Tails, and Robotnik (in some kind of mecha contraption).

[watkinzez]

New mix made me think of this...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl needs one character more than any other. Rayman.

I wanted to say that first. He ain't the most likely one to be picked, but Michel Ancel seems to be interested in the Wii, and Rayman would fit in rather well..

Not to mention that some upgraded Rayman music would be sex.

[The Pancake]

I'd really like to see Ryu Hayabusa from the Ninja Gaiden series in SSBB though, he just has so much potential for ass-kickery it'd be shame if he doesn't make it.

Too bad Team Ninja seems to be enjoying the XBOX 360. Though if you really want to fight as Ryu, why not just pick up DOA4 (even though he looks like a total wuss when you can see his whole face)? I dunno, he doesn't seem like a Smash Bros type character for me. He'd have to fight in a completely different way from DOA. Then again, neither does Snake, but Metal Gear has always had a good sense of humor.

[Back_Lit]

Lil Mac in SSBB...hmmmmmmm that sounds pretty slick, but I still would like Mach Rider to be in it :D

[anthonium]

I still say Bonk would be cool.

[genghisdani]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but do you guys realize that there are silhouettes of 5 of the SSBB characters on the official page (http://www.smashbros.com)?

Enlarged (8x) and enhanced for your viewing pleasure:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5822/char15gl.gif http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4014/char25sg.gif http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7475/char34tn.gif http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2776/char49wc.gif http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6671/char57au.gif

Speculations, anyone?

[Volt]

It seems to me that those are the characters that were actually revealed.

In order:
Metaknight
Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Wario
Snake

[genghisdani]

It seems to me that those are the characters that were actually revealed.

In order:
Metaknight
Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Wario
Snake
...

After reviewing the video, I must admit defeat. Good eye, though.

[Zeklan]

I'm dying for more news.
Just about anything would do, really.

[Sag Ee Mana]

I'm dying for more news.
Just about anything would do, really.

Maybe we have to wait for one whole year.
So it seems normal that new informations about the game will be hard to get! :cry:

(one year -_-)

[Penfold]

New mix made me think of this...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl needs one character more than any other. Rayman.

not a bad choice, but i think it needs someone else ever more, and im not sure if anyone has said it yet but, Viewtiful Joe.

He's getting his own sort of party smash game, isn't he? Or has he already gotten it? I haven't played the series since I fully completed the first one.

Yeah, the game came out already.

Anyways, I found on a different forum that found that the castle level was from FE:POR, so we may see the character from the game.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/juno500/SSBB6.jpg

The flag is supposed to be the emblem of one the nations there.

Dunno. Check out the pic below, the black symbol w/ red background is the closest thing in Fire Emblem on Gamecube to the one there. If you look at the two closely, the one from SSBB looks like it could be a more stylized version of the Daein symbol...skewed a little. :!: Well, I just hope that's an indicator of having either Ike or Titania in SSBB :D .
Hell, who among us even played a Fire Emblem with Marth or Roy in it? I didn't really care much about FE until I played the GC version, but was the FE that Marth was in even available outside of Japan? As for Roy, he was in a GBA FE right? Anyone know the answer to these? 8) http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/OmegaSupreme1/daeinsymbol.jpg

[Zombie]

I'd like to see Skull Kid as a playable character.

Also, this is just a fun idea that I have, a 2D, 8-Bit themed mode that you'd use the Wii controller on :wink: . Just for the hell of it.

[Penfold]

I dunno if this has already been discussed here or not, but I wonder if by having Nobuo Uematsu doing the score for SSBB if that also hints at Square-Enix's willingness to sell the rights to use well-know Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest characters. I'm not a huge fan of the FF series, but I think it'd be cool to have Cloud, Barret, Tidus, or even Sora to join the fray (especially Sora 8) ). Better yet, Crono from Chrono Trigger! :D

[Sag Ee Mana]

They could also put the same music but in different versions like classic, techno, rock... And we can chose the one we want holding L, R, or the music changes with the game (time alert, arena is moving, etc etc)

[Necrotic]

I'm pretty sure Uematsu went solo, didn't he?


-Nick

[Arek the Absolute]

I'm pretty sure Uematsu went solo, didn't he?


-Nick

That assumption is indeed fact.

[Penfold]

I'm pretty sure Uematsu went solo, didn't he?


-Nick

That assumption is indeed fact.

Oh ok, I guess that'd make sense. Ah well. Still, it'd be cool to have Crono in there...I mean, Chrono Trigger was originally a game on the SNES after all (though I'm sure Square-Enix wouldn't be in favor of whoring out their characters without ridiculous sums of money :P ).

[KakTheInfected]

I'm really not a fan of Square games, but I would really like to see Crono or Magus in Smash Bros.

It's possible...the series hasn't been touched for years now though.

[Calpis]

Only few Square characters are really appropriate for Smash Brothers, IMO.

Also, I sure hope that new songs for existing stages are part of the Connect24 thing. I get really sick of hearing the same damn songs on Melee, so I normally play with the music off. It'd be nice if they let you use your own MP3s, but I realize there's only a small to nonexistant chance of that.

[The Instrument of GAWD]

Now that I think about it, Snake in SSBB makes some sense. Kojima and Mayamoto are friend's and all. Guess Mayamoto payed Kojima back for making Twin Snakes.

Now, with Kid Icarus (Pit) in this, I feel hopeful. Espically for stage and music. The stage could be chalk full o' shit, like the little Grim Reaper dudes floating in and make the music change to the freak tune when he spots you.

The possiblities are nice.

P.S. BTW, is there a video of this stuff? That's downloadable, not streaming?

[Strike911]

This game would be perfect if Segata Sanshiro were a character.... (Theme and all).

YOU WIN!

We all should use the suggestion form and submit Segata Sanshiro!!!!!! I love the theme too!! haha!

[watkinzez]

I dunno if this has already been discussed here or not, but I wonder if by having Nobuo Uematsu doing the score for SSBB if that also hints at Square-Enix's willingness to sell the rights to use well-know Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest characters. I'm not a huge fan of the FF series, but I think it'd be cool to have Cloud, Barret, Tidus, or even Sora to join the fray (especially Sora 8) ). Better yet, Crono from Chrono Trigger! :D

Doing main theme /= score. He did the same thing for Final Fantasy 12, so expect Hirokazu Ando to return for the rest.

[Penfold]

Now that I think about it, Snake in SSBB makes some sense. Kojima and Mayamoto are friend's and all. Guess Mayamoto payed Kojima back for making Twin Snakes.

Now, with Kid Icarus (Pit) in this, I feel hopeful. Espically for stage and music. The stage could be chalk full o' shit, like the little Grim Reaper dudes floating in and make the music change to the freak tune when he spots you.

The possiblities are nice.

P.S. BTW, is there a video of this stuff? That's downloadable, not streaming?

Yeah, on IGN they have the option to either stream the trailer or dl the trailer (the dl'able version off to the side of the vid thumbnail). Here's a link for quicker reference http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html
I'm really excited about Pit being in the game too. I hope this is gonna lead to Kid Icarus Wii (so far I haven't heard any official Nintendo news about it). Pit is really due to star in his own game again anyhow IMO.

[Penfold]

I dunno if this has already been discussed here or not, but I wonder if by having Nobuo Uematsu doing the score for SSBB if that also hints at Square-Enix's willingness to sell the rights to use well-know Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest characters. I'm not a huge fan of the FF series, but I think it'd be cool to have Cloud, Barret, Tidus, or even Sora to join the fray (especially Sora 8) ). Better yet, Crono from Chrono Trigger! :D

Doing main theme /= score. He did the same thing for Final Fantasy 12, so expect Hirokazu Ando to return for the rest.

Oh, I musta misread. I thought I had read somewhere it wasn't just the main theme he was doing, but all the music for the game. I stand corrected though lol.

[Cerrax]

I dunno if this has already been discussed here or not, but I wonder if by having Nobuo Uematsu doing the score for SSBB if that also hints at Square-Enix's willingness to sell the rights to use well-know Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest characters. I'm not a huge fan of the FF series, but I think it'd be cool to have Cloud, Barret, Tidus, or even Sora to join the fray (especially Sora 8) ). Better yet, Crono from Chrono Trigger! :D

Doing main theme /= score. He did the same thing for Final Fantasy 12, so expect Hirokazu Ando to return for the rest.

Oh, I musta misread. I thought I had read somewhere it wasn't just the main theme he was doing, but all the music for the game. I stand corrected though lol.

The only information they've given about the music is that Uematsu wrote the main theme and that an entire orchestra with Latin opera choir will be availible for the entire soundtrack. No details about who exactly will be writing tracks for all parts of the game.

[StarZander]

Well, since this is an SSB thread, then I should be able to get some help with Melee, right? Well, here's my problem:

About a week ago, I got SSBM, and have been playing ot all the time (ofcourse), and I'm trying to beat everything. I've gotten all the characters, and right now I'm working on beating the Home-Run Contest. Atleast get 1500 ft, but the best I've done is about 1100 ft (not sure, since in my game it's in meters).

So... How should I do this? What character should I use? I've read in some places that I should use Yoshi or Ice Climbers, and I've tried a few strategies people have posted, but I don't understand it all. They confuse me. So... Any pointers, or strategies for a guy who knows of no SSBM terms at all?

[Global-Trance]

Woohoo. I just obtained a press kit for Super Smash Bros Brawl with a lot of nice artwork!

<3 E3 access.

[cobaltstarfire]

Homerun thingy

I used Yoshi, basicly you just do a bunch of bycicle kicks to the sandbag. It helps if you use very short hops so that you'll do maximum damage to the bag.

Try to get about 3 or 4 bycicle kicks off them do a smash attack with the baseball bat (It'll be all sparkly) And you should bet well over 1400 feet.

[Wipomatic]

Well, since this is an SSB thread, then I should be able to get some help with Melee, right? Well, here's my problem:

About a week ago, I got SSBM, and have been playing ot all the time (ofcourse), and I'm trying to beat everything. I've gotten all the characters, and right now I'm working on beating the Home-Run Contest. Atleast get 1500 ft, but the best I've done is about 1100 ft (not sure, since in my game it's in meters).

So... How should I do this? What character should I use? I've read in some places that I should use Yoshi or Ice Climbers, and I've tried a few strategies people have posted, but I don't understand it all. They confuse me. So... Any pointers, or strategies for a guy who knows of no SSBM terms at all?

Use Yoshi, and attack the sandbag by tapping the jump button and then using his down A flutter kick a few times, that should give it enough damage to go far enough.

[Jam Stunna]

[
Dunno. Check out the pic below, the black symbol w/ red background is the closest thing in Fire Emblem on Gamecube to the one there. If you look at the two closely, the one from SSBB looks like it could be a more stylized version of the Daein symbol...skewed a little. :!: Well, I just hope that's an indicator of having either Ike or Titania in SSBB :D .
Hell, who among us even played a Fire Emblem with Marth or Roy in it? I didn't really care much about FE until I played the GC version, but was the FE that Marth was in even available outside of Japan? As for Roy, he was in a GBA FE right? Anyone know the answer to these? 8)

Marth was in both Fire Emblem 1 and 3, neither of which was released outside of Japan. Roy was in Fire Emblem 6, which was the first Fire Emblem for the GBA. Once again though, it was never released outside of Japan. He also made a cameo in Fire Emblem 7.

[genghisdani]

According to a Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akaneia), Akaneia was supposed to be a map in SSBM. Perhaps this is Akaneia?

[CE]

Only few Square characters are really appropriate for Smash Brothers, IMO.

Also, I sure hope that new songs for existing stages are part of the Connect24 thing. I get really sick of hearing the same damn songs on Melee, so I normally play with the music off. It'd be nice if they let you use your own MP3s, but I realize there's only a small to nonexistant chance of that.

I never get bored of Melee's music. When I'm winning, I even fight to it's beat, it looks cool. The only one that gets on my nerves is the standard Final Destination one, because it's the stage I play in the most. Even the DK rap sounds alright. BTW, I loved the DK rap on DK64. Rare humor FTW.

But yes, we all want downloadable content. Especially stages and characters. And if those characters are for free, even better! Like WoW patches or something.

[Cerrax]

Only few Square characters are really appropriate for Smash Brothers, IMO.

Also, I sure hope that new songs for existing stages are part of the Connect24 thing. I get really sick of hearing the same damn songs on Melee, so I normally play with the music off. It'd be nice if they let you use your own MP3s, but I realize there's only a small to nonexistant chance of that.

I never get bored of Melee's music. When I'm winning, I even fight to it's beat, it looks cool. The only one that gets on my nerves is the standard Final Destination one, because it's the stage I play in the most. Even the DK rap sounds alright. BTW, I loved the DK rap on DK64. Rare humor FTW.

But yes, we all want downloadable content. Especially stages and characters. And if those characters are for free, even better! Like WoW patches or something.

I have a whole playlist on my computer of songs I listen to while I Smash. Its a lot better than the same damn songs over and over again.

[CE]

Only few Square characters are really appropriate for Smash Brothers, IMO.

Also, I sure hope that new songs for existing stages are part of the Connect24 thing. I get really sick of hearing the same damn songs on Melee, so I normally play with the music off. It'd be nice if they let you use your own MP3s, but I realize there's only a small to nonexistant chance of that.

I never get bored of Melee's music. When I'm winning, I even fight to it's beat, it looks cool. The only one that gets on my nerves is the standard Final Destination one, because it's the stage I play in the most. Even the DK rap sounds alright. BTW, I loved the DK rap on DK64. Rare humor FTW.

But yes, we all want downloadable content. Especially stages and characters. And if those characters are for free, even better! Like WoW patches or something.

I have a whole playlist on my computer of songs I listen to while I Smash. Its a lot better than the same damn songs over and over again.

Again, I do like those damn songs over and over again.

[The Author]

Why Square-Enix should not put a character in SSBB:

When you think square, you think what?

Final Fantasy.

Each final fantasy, starting from 4, has had a cast of very unique characters. Each character had personalities, moves, and unique traits that made them be loved by everyone (well almost...). From FF4's cast of 10-12 characters to FF6 cast of 18 characters, you already have an issue. The smallest cast was FF5 with 5 characters.

So far, with only the snes generation, we are over 35 potential characters.

FF7 had 7 characters, FF8 had 9, FF9 had 8, FF10 had at least 6, FFX2 as well.

Without including FF11 or 12, we are up to 71 characters. Now, throw in the 1 character from FFMQ, we are up to 72.

But wait, 6 people in CT: 78. A conservative estimate would say there were 15 people in CC. 93. Might as well throw in Secret of Mana 96, Secret of Evermore 97 (the dog does not count.) Seiken detsentsu 3, 103.

Now for villains: At least 2 from each game I named have some form of fan base: 14 games, 28 villains (it's an average, I know). 131.

Oh, I forgot Geno and Mallow:

133.


Hmmm... 133 potential characters. From 15 games...

Do you really want 133 new characters? Can you chose just one. And one that will not piss off fans in one way or another?

Oh and it's Square Enix...Enix also has some good characters.

The truth is that any one of these 133 characters would make a great addition to SSBB. It's rather easy actually, any videogame character can make one. Mr. Game and Watch proved it. So what can they do? Whatever they do they will piss off some of their fans.

SSBB works a lot better if you take specific characters from reoccuring games. (I know, Pit... but still)... Can you name me one character from Square Enix that has been part of a successful series of games and that has remained the same all through it?

Is there one character from any Final Fantasies that has the same portfolio as Link?

Snake has been in about 6 games. He has been around for 20 years. He is still being used now.

Find me one character by Square-Enix like that and we will see if he is a valid addition.


Disclaimer: I know that some characters, namely Pit, Ness, or Dr. Mario, have had a smaller exposure. For a Nintendo character to be on this game is not as complicated as getting Snake or Crono involved. I say that the characters from nintendo can avoid the game series limitation simply because of the specific fan demands. Nintendo does not own a great deal of ongoing series. In a game like SSBB, they include characters from various sources simply because it is a nostalgic throwback. And I guess a one shot character that has gotten a great fan response should be, in all logic, concidered as well. I just think that there aren't that many "Pit"s that still have fans asking for a sequel 20 years after the original.

[CE]

Snake has been in about 6 games. He has been around for 20 years. He is still being used now.

Find me one character by Square-Enix like that and we will see if he is a valid addition.


Well, it's not the same, but Cloud has been around in several games. It's in FF7, considered by many fans as the best one, it's been playable in some games after that, and he has a lot of cameos.

If SE went with one character that didn't piss off that many people, it would be Cloud. And Sephiroth I suppose. Not that I want any of those in SSBB, we've had enough cameos of those guys, but then again, I also don't want any one from Sonic. In fact, the only other 3rd party character's I'd want are a Castlevania one and Megaman...

[Dexie]

Do you really want 133 new characters? Can you chose just one. And one that will not piss off fans in one way or another?


They could always give us a generic Black Mage. :D

[The Author]

Now see, Castlevania has the same problem:

Simon, Trevor, Justin, Julius, and whatnot Belmonts. Then there is Alucard (playable in 3 games.) Soma (playable in 2) All valid additions.

(I would personally say Simon, since he started it all)

Megaman... Or X? Maybe even Zero, or the Zero games....

What about Bass... Protoman... Lots of choices... I would go with Megaman simply because the slide is better than the dash, but it's an opinion, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.


(Ok, Cloud would work... Except Squall/Leon has been in as many games... Vincent too... Slippery slope my friend, slippery slope...)

[genghisdani]

Do you really want 133 new characters? Can you chose just one. And one that will not piss off fans in one way or another?


They could always give us a generic Black Mage. :D
Hell, why not include a generic Red Mage, White Mage, Fighter, Black Belt, & Thief, too?

[The Author]

There is also Ninja, Berserker, Samurai, Dragoon, Archer, Bard, Chemist, Geomancer, Dancer, Blue Mage, Time Mage, Ranger, Summoner, and Mimic...

Now there is a good fighter idea: All the classes of FF5.

[CE]

Now see, Castlevania has the same problem:

Simon, Trevor, Justin, Julius, and whatnot Belmonts. Then there is Alucard (playable in 3 games.) Soma (playable in 2) All valid additions.

(I would personally say Simon, since he started it all)

Megaman... Or X? Maybe even Zero, or the Zero games....

What about Bass... Protoman... Lots of choices... I would go with Megaman simply because the slide is better than the dash, but it's an opinion, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.


(Ok, Cloud would work... Except Squall/Leon has been in as many games... Vincent too... Slippery slope my friend, slippery slope...)

It is a slippery one, but tell me this, if you were a Konami/Capcom/SE rep and you had to choose ONE character to represent the entire Castlevania/Megaman/FF franchise which one would you choose, if they told you you had to satisfy the maximum number of people you could with that choice? The only one who I see having trouble would be the Konami one, since Castlevania's main hero has shifted quite a lot. I'm betting they'd still go for Simon.

Even though I'm sure there are people who love Big the Cat, I'm sure of what Sega would choose if they had to decide between making a hit sonic game or a hit big the cat game. It's all about how many people you satisfy. Personally, I didn't like the fact that Wario wasn't on Melee, but I'm sure many people didn't mind. I did, because I'm a Wario fan.

Anyway, this is just my opinion, I'm sure that we are going to get a Castlevania character in the game, but I don't see any other 3rd party characters in it...

[Penfold]

Why Square-Enix should not put a character in SSBB:

When you think square, you think what?

Final Fantasy.

Each final fantasy, starting from 4, has had a cast of very unique characters. Each character had personalities, moves, and unique traits that made them be loved by everyone (well almost...). From FF4's cast of 10-12 characters to FF6 cast of 18 characters, you already have an issue. The smallest cast was FF5 with 5 characters.

So far, with only the snes generation, we are over 35 potential characters.

FF7 had 7 characters, FF8 had 9, FF9 had 8, FF10 had at least 6, FFX2 as well.

Without including FF11 or 12, we are up to 71 characters. Now, throw in the 1 character from FFMQ, we are up to 72.

But wait, 6 people in CT: 78. A conservative estimate would say there were 15 people in CC. 93. Might as well throw in Secret of Mana 96, Secret of Evermore 97 (the dog does not count.) Seiken detsentsu 3, 103.

Now for villains: At least 2 from each game I named have some form of fan base: 14 games, 28 villains (it's an average, I know). 131.

Oh, I forgot Geno and Mallow:

133.


Hmmm... 133 potential characters. From 15 games...

Do you really want 133 new characters? Can you chose just one. And one that will not piss off fans in one way or another?

Oh and it's Square Enix...Enix also has some good characters.

The truth is that any one of these 133 characters would make a great addition to SSBB. It's rather easy actually, any videogame character can make one. Mr. Game and Watch proved it. So what can they do? Whatever they do they will piss off some of their fans.

SSBB works a lot better if you take specific characters from reoccuring games. (I know, Pit... but still)... Can you name me one character from Square Enix that has been part of a successful series of games and that has remained the same all through it?

Is there one character from any Final Fantasies that has the same portfolio as Link?

Snake has been in about 6 games. He has been around for 20 years. He is still being used now.

Find me one character by Square-Enix like that and we will see if he is a valid addition.


Disclaimer: I know that some characters, namely Pit, Ness, or Dr. Mario, have had a smaller exposure. For a Nintendo character to be on this game is not as complicated as getting Snake or Crono involved. I say that the characters from nintendo can avoid the game series limitation simply because of the specific fan demands. Nintendo does not own a great deal of ongoing series. In a game like SSBB, they include characters from various sources simply because it is a nostalgic throwback. And I guess a one shot character that has gotten a great fan response should be, in all logic, concidered as well. I just think that there aren't that many "Pit"s that still have fans asking for a sequel 20 years after the original.
Now see, Castlevania has the same problem:

Simon, Trevor, Justin, Julius, and whatnot Belmonts. Then there is Alucard (playable in 3 games.) Soma (playable in 2) All valid additions.

(I would personally say Simon, since he started it all)

Megaman... Or X? Maybe even Zero, or the Zero games....

What about Bass... Protoman... Lots of choices... I would go with Megaman simply because the slide is better than the dash, but it's an opinion, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.


(Ok, Cloud would work... Except Squall/Leon has been in as many games... Vincent too... Slippery slope my friend, slippery slope...)

I'm not sure what your logic is here...is it that if they let one Square-Enix, Castlevania, or Megaman character in they'd have to let them all in? I'm assuming you're actually saying something like if they let one in, people would get pissed cuz they didn't put their favorite character in too. I dunno man, that still doesn't make sense to me. Maybe I'm just being naive, but I'd think that a fan of FF, Castlevania, or Megaman games would be glad to just have one character representing their favorite series in SSBB and not be bitchy about not having "Cloud" or "Zero" in it. I guess it's all kind of a moot point anyhow, seeing as how companies like Square-Enix might not even be willing to whore out their characters :P .

[genghisdani]

There is also Ninja, Berserker, Samurai, Dragoon, Archer, Bard, Chemist, Geomancer, Dancer, Blue Mage, Time Mage, Ranger, Summoner, and Mimic...

Now there is a good fighter idea: All the classes of FF5.
I can't wait till FF5 comes to GBA.

[Stealthshark]

It really doesn't bother me. I'll jsut end up trying them all and then reverting back to Ness anyway. :(

Though it would be cool to have X in Brawl since we got Mega Man in MVC2. Besides, X > Zero anyway. :lol:

[Bahamut]

While I like X more, Zero would be a hot addition to Brawl.

[Stealthshark]

While I like X more, Zero would be a hot addition to Brawl.

But depending from what time period they pull X, he could have the sabre as well. 2 for the price of one man!

[genghisdani]

While I like X more, Zero would be a hot addition to Brawl.

But depending from what time period they pull X, he could have the sabre as well. 2 for the price of one man!
But isn't that the whole point of Zero Suit Samus?

[Sir_NutS]

I wouldn't like to think of super smash bros of a title where they will put a lot of third party characters. Snake was ok, it was a good surprise and its a kickass character. But I would like to see only 1 more third party character, I think putting a lot of other non-nintendo stuff in it would break the magic. I know that the director, being the genious he is, wouldn't let this happen so I'd say, don't keep your hopes up for seeing a lot of third party characters in brawl.

[Navi]

i vote to add sir nuts to the Brawl lineup. His BOOM attacks would only be rivaled by his TISS attacks.

[CE]

i vote to add sir nuts to the Brawl lineup. His BOOM attacks would only be rivaled by his TISS attacks.

sir nuts main A combo:




wait for it












here it comes
















BOOM BOOM TISS!

[Cerrax]

i vote to add sir nuts to the Brawl lineup. His BOOM attacks would only be rivaled by his TISS attacks.

No silly. That would be a combo attack like Marth or Roy when you hit the B button at the correct intervals: BOOM-TISS-BOOM-TISS-BOOM-TISS-BOOM-SSSSMMMAASSSHHHH!

EDIT--Now that I think about it, that would be pretty sweet! Someone write to Nintendo! :D

[G_D]

Why would they bother putting tons of third party characters in Brawl when there are SO MANY MORE NINTENDO CHARACTERS? I mean, seriously, they could use any of at least a dozen Fire Emblem characters now that it has become more popular, they can use more Earthbound characters (maybe even Mother 3 characters), and they've already added 5 new characters. They've also introduced 2 new franchises which will likely see a character in Brawl (Disaster and Project H.A.M.M.E.R.). How many characters do you people want?

P.S. I like the sir nuts idea though ;).

[GreatEvilBetty]

My hopes on SSB:B is that they will put Sonic in it. It would make my year.

Sonic + Samus + Snake = My favorite VG characters of all time.

[TheLeviathan]

https://mavdisk.mnsu.edu/weltea/main/modifiedwii.jpg


*Sigh* If only....

What's up with the kitchen sink though??

[GreatEvilBetty]

https://mavdisk.mnsu.edu/weltea/main/modifiedwii.jpg


*Sigh* If only....

What's up with the kitchen sink though??

Ahhh... Hahahaha... That... That made me laugh...

And not just a little bit.

[The Author]

Send the image to nintendo.

[Kal aMari]

That's arguably the best fake character select screen out there. I can't think of anyone missing that I can't live without, although there are some I'd rather not see as playable characters (Tingle, three AW generals, Olimar, and Pacman to be specific).

[Murmeli Walan]

What's up with the kitchen sink though??

To quote a phrase: "They threw in everything but the kitchen sink." In this case, they threw the sink in there as well. :lol:

[The Xyco]

My hopes on SSB:B is that they will put Sonic in it. It would make my year.

Sonic + Samus + Snake = My favorite VG characters of all time.
Alot of people are hoping for this. I'd assume the producers would at least try to get Sonic & co. into SSBB, given their popularity and a final answer to the tireless argument of who would win in a fight, Mario or Sonic -- it would be an addition with alot of popularity attatched to it. However, it seems to me that they would've announced it by now had anything gone through.

Keep hoping though, you never know.

[GreatEvilBetty]

Keep hoping though, you never know.

I intend to...

[Cerrax]

I'm pretty excited about Pit and MetaKnight more than Snake and Zero Samus. Pit just looks like he'll be a lot of fun to play. And the Kid Icarus stage is sure to be cool too!

[linkspast]

Is there one character from any Final Fantasies that has the same portfolio as Link?



I call him. Cid.
and chocobos and moogles. SSBB with a moogle.

[StarZander]

My hopes still lie in MegaMan. And if he actually gets to be in the game, I hope it's the NES version of him. X was only cool in the first game. If he's not a main character, he could be a semi-clone to Samus. Mostly because of the chargeable Buster.



Is there one character from any Final Fantasies that has the same portfolio as Link?



I call him. Cid.
and chocobos and moogles. SSBB with a moogle.

That's kind of true. Not about Cid, since he's been different in every game, but with Moogles... They have always been Moogles. They would probaby fit perfectly in the game aswell.

[Glenn565]

However, it seems to me that they would've announced it by now had anything gone through.

Then Nintendo would have revealed their hand far too soon. If they announced Sonic now, how could they top it?

That, and I think Nintendo would have him as a Hidden character; not even hinting his existence untill the game is released.

[genghisdani]

Is there one character from any Final Fantasies that has the same portfolio as Link?



I call him. Cid.
and chocobos and moogles. SSBB with a moogle.

That's kind of true. Not about Cid, since he's been different in every game, but with Moogles... They have always been Moogles.
Not in games where there were Mogs.

https://mavdisk.mnsu.edu/weltea/main/modifiedwii.jpg
I can definitely see them putting in Deoxys. It just seems like something they'd do.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

What's up with the kitchen sink though??

To quote a phrase: "They threw in everything but the kitchen sink." In this case, they threw the sink in there as well. :lol:

He (she?) would be the best character ever. :lol:

[Ninja-san]

O god Id to hate see that many characters in the game. Although id like to see what MIssingo would do >)

:D oo Isaac i forgot about him. Hope hes in the game

[Hadriel]

Is there one character from any Final Fantasies that has the same portfolio as Link?

Cloud's been in FFVII, AC, BC, and DC, plus KH I, CoM, and II, and will probably make some kind of an appearance in CC. Admittedly, most of those are side stories set in the same universe, but he's one of like two or three Square characters that has a wide enough recognition and fanbase to make it worth the effort; his special moves are clearly defined from the Limit Break system, and it'd bring a bunch of hardcore Square fans previously uninterested in getting a Wii to the table. Whether you like Cloud or hate him, the only thing he does better than chopping people up is selling things. And you just know that if Cloud made it into SSBB, Sephiroth would come with him. Squall's the only other protagonist suitable for inclusion in the series, though it'd be controversial because FFVIII isn't as well-liked.

Plus, I'd kind of like to see Sony taken down a couple of pegs by having one of their iconic system-selling heroes appear somewhere else. Never was a fan of their business practices.

Cid can't count; each Cid is completely and totally different, and only a few are playable in any capacity. Mog was a playable fighter in FFVI; his Dance moveset could make a great Game-And-Watch type addition. Everyone loves Mogs, and the Chocobo theme is easy to appropriate into a victory theme, though they could just use the standard victory theme.

If Mega Man gets in, I hope it's X, and if it's X, I hope he brings Zero with him. But if I actually entered in all the ideas I've had for the game, I'd spend probably an entire day doing nothing but typing shit and translating it into Japanese.

One thing I've noticed is how a lot of the suggested character additions don't have ready-made musical themes that fans will instantly identify with that character. Sonic and his entourage are possibly the only characters which escape this. And yes, I know Sephiroth has One-Winged Angel, but I'd actually prefer it if they didn't use that under the music-variation conditions. It isn't suited to being an ordinary stage theme, just like Duel of the Fates doesn't work for random back-alley brawls with Jabba's hired goons. It would fit much better in a scenario mission, and the last phrase of the Reunion Tracks version could easily function as his victory theme, but god, it shouldn't be reduced to simple stage music.

That reminds me of something; I'd always said that Simon Belmont should get in, now that we have another Konami character, but what song should represent him? I'm thinking either Bloody Tears or Vampire Killer.

[Mr. Wizard]

That reminds me of something; I'd always said that Simon Belmont should get in, now that we have another Konami character, but what song should represent him? I'm thinking either Bloody Tears or Vampire Killer.
Both are absolutely great songs and I would love to see them redone by the music team onboard with SSB:B, but for me it all depends on the level design. I wouldn't mind seeing the town theme from Simon's Quest if the level was in town. The level could turn from day to night and vice versa, with night-time bringing zombies to damage players and day-time bringing... garlic? I don't know. But if that level design ever came to pass, I'd like to see the music change appropriately, too.

However, I wouldn't argue one bit if Bloody Tears or Vampire Killer made the cut. Love those songs.

[Darkmetamorphasis]

Actually, didnt Konami make their own bralwer? I forgot the name, but it included:
Optimus Prime, Barbie, Bomberman, the wolf from Bloody Roar, Castlevania Chronicles Simon Belmont, Some other characters, and Solid Snake.
I'll try to put up a link if I can find it.

[CE]

https://mavdisk.mnsu.edu/weltea/main/modifiedwii.jpg


VIEWTIFUL JOE! YES!

Seriously, he'd be awesome. You could make him move faster or slower then normal and mess up your opponent's timing.

[Zeklan]

One thing I've noticed is how a lot of the suggested character additions don't have ready-made musical themes that fans will instantly identify with that character. Sonic and his entourage are possibly the only characters which escape this. And yes, I know Sephiroth has One-Winged Angel, but I'd actually prefer it if they didn't use that under the music-variation conditions.

I think the AC version of One Winged Angel would make great stage music.
The pace and beat would be nice to play to.

That being said, I don't think Sephiroth or Cloud should be put in.
I'm fairly accepting when it comes to new characters but they just don't seem right for the game.
Snake I can see and look forward to using, but I just can't picture those two.

[Jordheim]

Dude i am sorry, i read like halfway through page 3 and then i saw i had around 30 left to go. As for me, I used to take smash, both original (during its day) and then melee, so seriously. Like I'm totally about fair fights, so i always play with items set on None, and only on Final Destination. I considering it the fairest level, no one has the advantage of a platform, being above or below someone, its just a flat arena. Favorite characters are Falco, and then Young Link. I love how high Falco jumps. I remember back in the day when i played original and i had never seen SSBM, I literally could not understand how ssbm could be so much faster, or with better graphics. I got ssbm and that was the first time i had ever seen it. After playing a couple of months, i went back to original for a match, and all i saw were these huge block figures for characters compared to GC version. i dont know how i had never seen it before. I used to practice by playing against 3 lvl 9's teamed against me, no friendly fire, and following my rules (final destination, no items) it could get kinda tricky. Also, when a person is trying to get back on stage, i consider not letting him back on "cheap" (i know its part of the game and all, its just my opinion and i respect people who do it just the same) Problem is, i never got to the peak of my abilities i know because i was only able to take on 3 Roys against me. Players with projectiles can be too hard when its 3 teamed against you. I was never able to beat all star mode on very hard with 3 lives and no continues. One time i got to the last match, turns out it was ice climbers, falco and someone else like jiggly or something. Problem was that it was on Venom and thats my most hated level so i got totally owned. I almost threw away the gamecube i got so stressed out. I managed to get all trophies cept 2 of em. One of em was the all star mode trophy when you beat it on hard or very hard no continues, (i refuse to get it off hard) and the other was when you get the all the.. award things like (smash king, or Cliffhanger, or immortal) im missing a couple but im not sure which. i think thats 280 trophies or 279. Im not bragging with what i say but smash used to be a passion so im just letting totally loose on this. I think it would be totally awesome to be able to play online, and meet the best players. Some people say im good, i cant even imagine what a "world champ" of smash would be like, Dodging every single hit.. i dunno i wanna find out with wii :) Also maybe they should put in figures from Castlevania, like Simon or something, that might be fun, maybe a whip grab kinda like bowsers side B move, i dunno, nintendo can figure it out :P Either way, really sorry for the essay, Ill be on 24/7 when online comes out :D

[CE]

Dude i am sorry, i read like halfway through page 3 and then i saw i had around 30 left to go. As for me, I used to take smash, both original (during its day) and then melee, so seriously. Like I'm totally about fair fights, so i always play with items set on None, and only on Final Destination. I considering it the fairest level, no one has the advantage of a platform, being above or below someone, its just a flat arena. Favorite characters are Falco, and then Young Link. I love how high Falco jumps. I remember back in the day when i played original and i had never seen SSBM, I literally could not understand how ssbm could be so much faster, or with better graphics. I got ssbm and that was the first time i had ever seen it. After playing a couple of months, i went back to original for a match, and all i saw were these huge block figures for characters compared to GC version. i dont know how i had never seen it before. I used to practice by playing against 3 lvl 9's teamed against me, no friendly fire, and following my rules (final destination, no items) it could get kinda tricky. Also, when a person is trying to get back on stage, i consider not letting him back on "cheap" (i know its part of the game and all, its just my opinion and i respect people who do it just the same) Problem is, i never got to the peak of my abilities i know because i was only able to take on 3 Roys against me. Players with projectiles can be too hard when its 3 teamed against you. I was never able to beat all star mode on very hard with 3 lives and no continues. One time i got to the last match, turns out it was ice climbers, falco and someone else like jiggly or something. Problem was that it was on Venom and thats my most hated level so i got totally owned. I almost threw away the gamecube i got so stressed out. I managed to get all trophies cept 2 of em. One of em was the all star mode trophy when you beat it on hard or very hard no continues, (i refuse to get it off hard) and the other was when you get the all the.. award things like (smash king, or Cliffhanger, or immortal) im missing a couple but im not sure which. i think thats 280 trophies or 279. Im not bragging with what i say but smash used to be a passion so im just letting totally loose on this. I think it would be totally awesome to be able to play online, and meet the best players. Some people say im good, i cant even imagine what a "world champ" of smash would be like, Dodging every single hit.. i dunno i wanna find out with wii :) Also maybe they should put in figures from Castlevania, like Simon or something, that might be fun, maybe a whip grab kinda like bowsers side B move, i dunno, nintendo can figure it out :P Either way, really sorry for the essay, Ill be on 24/7 when online comes out :D

Holy. Freakin. Crap.

Paragraphs man, paragraphs.

And welcome.

[Zeklan]

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[CE]

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Damn, yours was better.