Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Bigfoot]

So it's fair that some character's have it and some don't? Now everyone has the ability to do one.

Also, nobody even knows how easy/hard it will be to execute it.

[Kureejii Lea]

So it's fair that some character's have it and some don't?

Well, not everyone in Melee could wallspring.

I think this move looks like a fun addition, however.

[Azul v2]

I don't think it would be like Mario Party, because in Mario party the characters move, jump, and spring off each other very slowly. I think to pull this off the guy you are jumping on would have to stand there and take the meteor smash after being jumped on, but I bet that there is time to move away before getting smashed.

[DeathBySpoon]

I can't wait to see Snake do this; it's going to look so ridiculously awesome.

[Ray Falling]

I think some people are reading it wrong. I don't think it is JUST so characters can do a meteor smash. It is only one of many things one could do after performing this jump.
What some people also don't seem to realize that it is very unlikely that an opponent, especially human controlled, would stay in the same place long enough to get jumped on AND meteor smashed without you know, fighting back.

This new tech does in no way make for an instant meteor smash, you still have to do all the work.

Also, that one screenshot suggest that bouncing off of someone using this technique will bring you into your second jump. Note that Yoshi looks like he is "fluttering" after the jump on Wario.

[Makai]

This reminds me of the Mario and Luigi games. Perhaps they will replace the ice climbers?

[DJ Tempora]

That doesn't even make sense, bro.

[Imagery]

I think some people are reading it wrong. I don't think it is JUST so characters can do a meteor smash. It is only one of many things one could do after performing this jump.
What some people also don't seem to realize that it is very unlikely that an opponent, especially human controlled, would stay in the same place long enough to get jumped on AND meteor smashed without you know, fighting back.

This new tech does in no way make for an instant meteor smash, you still have to do all the work.

Uh... the Footstool Jump is in and of itself a Meteor Smash attack. That's why people are talking about the implications of every character being able to perform a Meteor Smash now while only a few had the ability in Melee. Although you are right that the Meteor Smash aspect is not the only implication; the extra jump(s) possible might be strategically intriguing as well.

I still think it looks stupid and I hope it's something that takes skill to pull off or I can see this becoming some seriously cheap bullshit (which is why I referred to Mario Party earlier).

[Ray Falling]

Right, I see what ya mean now. The actual jump on an airborne character would make them fall down...
I was sort of confused because I was thinking one can't bounce off of something that is not grounded.
It would indeed make for a (mini) meteor smash, rather than the extra high bounce.

:) If they're going to include a homerun contest thing again then this technique would make it extra fun :)

[anclunn]

Game-play mechanic update... YES! Glad this going to be a REAL update to smash brothers and not just a bunch of polish and extra features and balancing. I mean I love smash brothers, but new mechanics are a must to keep the game from just being melee 2.0

[Red Shadow]

i have a feeling that if it's used as a meteor smash, the upward velocity of your second jump will be sacrificed

[anclunn]

That doesn't make any sense, as you'd be jumping off of something rather than just on air.

EDIT - Well I guess jumping off air doesn't really make sense either.

[Strike911]

Meh, if it's difficult to execute and you have to time the correct button push RIGHT at the correct spot then it'll be okay.

I really think there is more to it that what they're telling us. There's an opportunity cost in here somewhere... I think its probably your horizontal movement. You probably can get a good jump straight up (maybe a little to the side), but probably not as much as if you would have just jumped without using someone as a footstool.

And... if they make it so you can't do a triple jump after initiating it, then I don't think this move will be unbalanced.

[The Author]

Meh, if it's difficult to execute and you have to time the correct button push RIGHT at the correct spot then it'll be okay.

I really think there is more to it that what they're telling us. There's an opportunity cost in here somewhere... I think its probably your horizontal movement. You probably can get a good jump straight up (maybe a little to the side), but probably not as much as if you would have just jumped without using someone as a footstool.

And... if they make it so you can't do a triple jump after initiating it, then I don't think this move will be unbalanced.

Yeah I'm sure its gonna cost the second jump.

[eternal Zero]

Yeah I'm sure its gonna cost the second jump.

While I don't disagree, it could be otherwise under the logic that you are landing on another "platform" similar to wall jumping.

[Drack]

i have a feeling that if it's used as a meteor smash, the upward velocity of your second jump will be sacrificed

Newton's 3rd law says otherwise. You send yourself up as much as you send them down (before gravity Edit: and mass difference), if the game is physically sound.

Even though we're talking Nintendo physics, jumping on paratroopas isn't any different from jumping on ground enemies.

[Rambo]

Newton's 3rd law says otherwise. You send yourself up as much as you send them down (before gravity), if the game is physically sound.

Even though we're talking Nintendo physics, jumping on paratroopas isn't any different from jumping on ground enemies.

Newtons 7th law states that once over 100% damage, you cannot recover from edges in the same manner.

[Bahamut]

Newtons 7th law states that once over 100% damage, you cannot recover from edges in the same manner.

...you make physicists sad :sad:

[Hector]

You're forgetting to adjust for mass, momentum, torque and the numerous exceptions to Newton's laws that allow you to do such things as double-jump.

[Bigfoot]

That doesn't make any sense, as you'd be jumping off of something rather than just on air.

EDIT - Well I guess jumping off air doesn't really make sense either.

Well, in the pic where Wario is on the ground, you get to actually use him like a trampoline. In the last pic, it just looks like Yoshi just kick's the player and that's it.

[Imagery]

...you make physicists sad :sad:

It's only what you all deserve for making everyone else sad in the first place.

[NeoForte]

OMG Knuckle Joe :O

[Strike911]

Well, in the pic where Wario is on the ground, you get to actually use him like a trampoline. In the last pic, it just looks like Yoshi just kick's the player and that's it.

I wonder if "fatter" characters will throw characters higher in the air... i mean, technically there's more to bounce off of if Wario is under you, than if say, Peach or Pichu was under you. Haha.

Jumping off Pichu just sounds mean. lol.

AND... LAWL at all the Newton's laws comments.

[NeoForte]

Aww he's an Assist Trophy :(

[Strike911]

but a cool assist trophy!!!

I can dig.

[Imagery]

Knuckle Joe? Seriously? Goddamn, Sakurai, you've led us to expect more of your Friday "cliffhangers."

[atmuh]

knuckle joe rocks
but he looks kinda gay

[Strike911]

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/screens/K/vKnuckle_Joe.png

at least he's not THAT knuckle joe.... I was scared there for a second!

Oh, Taito, you mediocre cards!

[Rambo]

I wonder if "fatter" characters will throw characters higher in the air... i mean, technically there's more to bounce off of if Wario is under you, than if say, Peach or Pichu was under you. Haha.

Jumping off Pichu just sounds mean. lol.

AND... LAWL at all the Newton's laws comments.

I would've thought luigi to be the springiest. You actually use him like that in Supestar Saga.. unless I don't remember that game well. In any case, if it is size dependent, I'd like to see someone footstool jump giga bowser.

...mind you his spikes and horns wouldn't be pleasant.

[Brithor]

Giga Bowser is supposed to be invincible, I don't think you can stomp him.

[eternal Zero]

They really did a great job with Knuckle Joe. I kinda want to know how he'll decide which attack to finish with. I hope it's not random and he's got some limited AI in there to see number of players above or next to him or whatever the case may be. Kinda like how Staryu and Scizor had tracking.

[Jaybell]

KNUCKLE JOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

these assist trophies are such a great addition to the game.

[Sir_NutS]

haha, knuckle joe. Nice.

[Drack]

Interestingly, this shows us that the assist trophies have multiple moves.

They're more sophisticated than the poké balls we've seen in Melee, where the pokémon would do the same routine no matter what - It looks like this fella has some AI.

[FuriousFure]

these assist trophies are such a great addition to the game.


I want Tetris as a Assist Trophy. Huge tetris Pieces would fall outta the sky like how Onyx did in Smash Bros.

[Neonlare]

I want Tetris as a Assist Trophy. Huge tetris Pieces would fall outta the sky like how Onyx did in Smash Bros.

Screw that, I'd like a Tetris-themed level.

[friendlyHunter]

Well, if they put Dr. Mario back in (unlikely I think), his final smash could have the player control the movement of giant pills as they fall onto the stage.

But Tetris would make an absolutely amazing stage: blocks keep falling down, dynamically changing the floor. And when a full row is completed, it disappears of course (or EXPLODES!!). It'd play like an insanely souped-up Bridge of Eldin (with uneven ground and a shorter horizontal size), but look 10 times better. Some of the Tetris songs would totally fit in a Smash Bros fight too, especially if they're remixed =D

Footstool jump on Giga Bowser? I don't think the collision detection is NEARLY that good - his shell darts around so fast, it'd be harder to land on than that useless cloud in Melee's Yoshi stage.

Footstool jump on Luigi could sometimes send the player up into the sky for a KO =D Would be an amazing game mechanic if jumping on different characters worked slightly differently.

[Arek the Absolute]

If you are expecting me to go "fanboy" over this update...
you are right.

This is a pretty sweet update.

[Ray Falling]

But Tetris would make an absolutely amazing stage: blocks keep falling down, dynamically changing the floor. And when a full row is completed, it disappears of course (or EXPLODES!!). It'd play like an insanely souped-up Bridge of Eldin (with uneven ground and a shorter horizontal size), but look 10 times better. Some of the Tetris songs would totally fit in a Smash Bros fight too, especially if they're remixed =D


Since many crazy ideas suggested here were put in recently (coincidence or Japanese mind controling techniques) I expect your Tetris level in tomorrow's update :) It's brilliant and would make so much sense it doesn't even make sense.

[Neonlare]

Since many crazy ideas suggested here were put in recently (coincidence or Japanese mind controling techniques) I expect your Tetris level in tomorrow's update :) It's brilliant and would make so much sense it doesn't even make sense.

Wait is there something I wasn't aware of before? Time Dragon time!

http://falkor.ytmnd.com/

*returns*

Yes, it's confirmed, as is Little Mac.

http://i.somethingawful.com/u/russ/goldmine14/zip3.gif

O wait...

[Brithor]

I expect your Tetris level in tomorrow's update :)

Too bad there's no update tomorrow.

[Wintermute]

Knuckle Joe looks pretty sweet.

Little Mac would make an excellent assist trophy if he isn't a full on character. C'mon! His one two one two uppercut punch combo is pwn.

[Jam Stunna]

Argh, my wife is trying to teach me how to powershield and I just can't get it. She taught my teams partner in about five seconds yesterday, and now he reflects everything. Maybe I'm just retarded or something.

[Bigfoot]

So today my friend says his friend that I've never met was holding a tourney today at his house. He says that he said they're really good, so I figured cool, I get to play with some elite people.

Turns out they were all just random people that play with items. I mean, nothing wrong with that, but I was just hoping to finally play against some "tourney style" players.

[Dhsu]

Argh, my wife is trying to teach me how to powershield and I just can't get it. She taught my teams partner in about five seconds yesterday, and now he reflects everything. Maybe I'm just retarded or something.
Heh, I think it just takes practice.

[Ray Falling]

Too bad there's no update tomorrow.

D'oh! Silly me, you're right x_x

[mattycat900]

Little mac is right under simon belmont on my most wanted character list.

[BardicKnowledge]

I'd really like to see Mike Jones (of Startropics) be an AT. Others that should be there not mentioned yet include anyone from Earthbound, Lolo (from the Adventures of Lolo), and Master Higgins / dinosaurs (Adventure Island).

[eternal Zero]

Heh, I think it just takes practice.

There aren't any truer words for the more advanced techniques in smash.

[Effector]

I just back from a week-long vacation and had to read like twenty pages of this thread. You guys need to be funnier, dammit. With the exceptions of Archetype of Sagacity's post and the Newton's laws jokes, it was a miserable fail.

Although Jam Stunna's wife thing is kinda cute.

I did miss this thread for its sheer time-wasting abilities.

[Chuckles]

There aren't any truer words for the more advanced techniques in smash.

My favorite example of these is catching items. Nothing better than to stand there and let someone chuck a bob-omb at you and then grab it and wing it back before they know wtf happened.

Course, it's really hard when I haven't done it in a while. Which makes it less impressive when I get all blowed up like.

[Kiyosuki]

Knuckle Joe is a great addition. SSB is all about obscurity so really anything goes. The usual rules of "they'd never put that in there, it hasn't been used in forever!" in most games is really out the window.

You know I wouldn't be surprised if one of the assist trophies is going to be a bunch of Metroids. You have to admit, that'd be pretty cool. And it would work well too, they cling to you and slow you down while draining life.

[friendlyHunter]

They pretty much can't NOT include metroids, they'd be the most fun assist trophy. Besides Ridley and some of the classic enemies (zoomers, sidehoppers, etc.), there's really not much Metroid material to include as an assist trophy. If there's no metroids in Brawl, I'll... eat a goat. Or part of one. Eventually. Again.
...Maybe.

[The Author]

They pretty much can't NOT include metroids, they'd be the most fun assist trophy. Besides Ridley and some of the classic enemies (zoomers, sidehoppers, etc.), there's really not much Metroid material to include as an assist trophy. If there's no metroids in Brawl, I'll... eat a goat. Or part of one. Eventually. Again.
...Maybe.So, you're gonna go to the God of War 3 launch?

[ILLiterate]

They pretty much can't NOT include metroids
Which means they pretty much can include metroids

Yeah they will no brainer

[friendlyHunter]

You know what's a real "no brainer"? Not including the Mother Brain! Arrrrr, terrible puns ahoy!


By the way:

"can't not include" =/= "can include"

"can't not include" = ~( ~include ) = include

You needs ta gets mo' practice on ya boolean logic, P!

[ILLiterate]

By the way:

"can't not include" =/= "can include"

"can't not include" = ~( ~include ) = include

You needs ta gets mo' practice on ya boolean logic, P!I laughed, for real

[FlameStream]

You know what's a real "no brainer"? Not including the Mother Brain! Arrrrr, terrible puns ahoy!


By the way:

"can't not include" =/= "can include"

"can't not include" = ~( ~include ) = include

You needs ta gets mo' practice on ya boolean logic, P!

Hmm, sorry to jump in randomly, but I just have to correct you. XP
"can't not include" == "cannot not include"
== "can not not include"
== "can include"

[friendlyHunter]

Hmmm, someone needs to practice their maths.... but whom???

There's gotta be a flaw somewhere here:

"can not not include"
== "can include"
But I can't quite figure it out ><


[Edit]
AHA!

"cannot not include" should be "not CAN(not include)"
where CAN is a predicate such that CAN(T) = T and CAN(F) = F

:.

= "not CAN(not include)"
= "not not include"
= "include"


This is WAY more entertaining than discussing Brawl updates! And with that, I have to go to the can.

...NOT!

[Strike911]

This is WAY more entertaining than discussing Brawl updates! And with that, I have to go to the can.

...NOT!

Wow, you just reminded me of my childhood in elementary school when in the early 90's it was cool to say ...

"PSYCHE!!!"

... as a synonym for "Not!"

*breathes in*
*exhales*

Good times. Good times.

Oh, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, will your influence over me ever stop manifesting itself through internet posts?

Alas.

...

...
...

...

"Now this is the story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down..."

*continues singing*

[Brithor]

These last couple of posts is why I hate weekends. Heh.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

They pretty much can't NOT include metroids, they'd be the most fun assist trophy. Besides Ridley and some of the classic enemies (zoomers, sidehoppers, etc.), there's really not much Metroid material to include as an assist trophy...
What do you mean that theres not much material to include from Metroid Series?!
What about Pirates, elite pirates, Chozo Ghosts, Dark Samus, Mother Brain, the ING?
Pirates would be a really cool addition, specially those gold looking pirates that would jump arround and kick you or something? They would fit pretty well IMO.

[AarowSwift]

Oooo, Metroid Assist Trophy. That really would be awesome. Sure, there are lots of things from Metroid that could make cameo appearances, but the titular critter is a must. It'd fly onto the screen and latch onto an opponent, sending his or her damage percentage sky rocketing. Better yet, it could be the baby Metroid that grew huge and helped Samus out in Super Metroid. If assist trophies are character specific, which makes perfect sense, then that one would be perfect for Samus. In fact, if this doesn't actually happen in the game, I'll be disappointed at the missed opportunity.

[Dyne]

Oooo, Metroid Assist Trophy. That really would be awesome. Sure, there are lots of things from Metroid that could make cameo appearances, but the titular critter is a must. It'd fly onto the screen and latch onto an opponent, sending his or her damage percentage sky rocketing. Better yet, it could be the baby Metroid that grew huge and helped Samus out in Super Metroid. If assist trophies are character specific, which makes perfect sense, then that one would be perfect for Samus. In fact, if this doesn't actually happen in the game, I'll be disappointed at the missed opportunity.

That surely would own! :D Great idea!

[Strike911]

These last couple of posts is why I hate weekends. Heh.

these last couple of posts are what make the weekends bareable; are you kidding?! I don't know how I would survive without these weekend posts since we don't get updates... -_-

you know its true. Don't be hatin'.

[friendlyHunter]

Wouldn't it be kinda scary if the next update was a Metroid assist trophy? Well, it's almost Japan Time...

[Imagery]

Uhhh it's Japan Time plus 20 minutes where's my update?

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Already 3:20am and no update :puppyeyes:

[Makai]

Fashionably late as usual.

[StarZander]

This better be something huge.

[JackKieser]

Man, if this isn't the latest I've ever seen Sakurai at updating the Dojo, it's probably a REALLY close second.

--Jack Kieser

[friendlyHunter]

We all have to do the update dance, to please the update gods. Ironically, that's the same dance that's shown in Makai's sig. Everybody, do the dance!

[JackKieser]

*dances furiously*

... It would help if it wasn't so damn late. But if the update gods demand a dance, so it shall be done.

*dances more*

--Jack Kieser

[Strike911]

I Hate You Knuckle Joe! I Freakin' Hate You! And I Will Remember This Moment When Brawl Ships, And When I See You, I Will Say These Words:

I Hate You!

[JackKieser]

You don't really mean that, do you Strike?

...
...
...

...or do you?

--Jack Kieser

[Strike911]

Oh, I mean it. At first, Knuckle Joe was cool. He could do different moves and kick people's ass, but...

now...

it's different. He's taunting me. He's been taunting me with a dead soul-less glare for 30 something minutes...

...



... bastard!

edit: You should see the madness in the Brawl Website thread at SmashBoards. They're going through like 1 page every minute or so. It's crazy. lol. I'm just watching it all and all their spam. hehe.

[friendlyHunter]

LOL there should be a reality show where there's a bunch of Smash Bros. geeks living in an apartment, and on an unsuspecting Monday morning, the new Brawl update fails to appear. The hours go by, and one by one they go mad =O

[Hobocop]

Joe must be holding Sakurai hostage

[Strike911]

LOL there should be a reality show where there's a bunch of Smash Bros. geeks living in an apartment, and on an unsuspecting Monday morning, the new Brawl update fails to appear. The hours go by, and one by one they go mad =O

This show will be called...

Big Smash Brother


... oh god, im sorry. im sorry, yes its a terrible one. i know.

/failing at life


EDIT: JOE MUST DIE!

[Thalzon]

I seriously doubt anything can top a munchkin with huge jowls and a thong on its head, anyway.

[BigBoss]

everytime I refresh the page joe gets bigger and bigger

[Arek the Absolute]

Sakurai hurry up with this shit so I can go to sleep. My room mate won't shut up about the update being late.

[Strike911]

hmm, just past 40 minutes. I think this one takes the cake for longest Smash Brawl website update...

Hmm... well, I've devoted 40+ minutes of my life to refreshing 4 tiled windows of internet browsers from 4 different languages/regions of the Smash bros website....

I think I need to go to bed.... -_- ..... but the addiction...... can't..... pull self...... away from.................... monitor.... gyaaaaaaahhhh!!

...

and sidenote, Knuckle Joe must be sent to guantanamo bay!

[Makai]

I blame terrorism.

[Arek the Absolute]

itt we see strike fanboy it up like never before

[Strike911]

Knuckle Joe is the terrorist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm fanboying my ass off here. It's hard work.

[Arek the Absolute]

a job you can keep

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Ill wait till 4am, if by then the update is still not up ill go to my bloody bed.
...
Stupid Knuckle Joe :tomatoface:

[Arek the Absolute]

As a kirby enthusiast, I take offense to your hatred towards the joe with knuckles

[BigBoss]

seriously joe is pretty awesome

[friendlyHunter]

Want to kill some time while waiting for the update? Watch all the videos in this thread:
http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11006

Once you finish that, watch a few of these:
http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4193

If you finish all those and the update's still not up, try dancing harder.

[Arek the Absolute]

Or you guys can practice Melee to better your scrubby skills at it.

[Makai]

Sakurai got himself a girl.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

As a Kirby enthusiast, I take offense to your hatred towards the Joe with knuckles
Well, since I've never played a single Kirby game, I don't really hate Joe, but every time I hit the reload button and he comes up gives me the willies :?

[BigBoss]

Yay Donkey Kong okay sleep now.

[Makai]

It took him an hour to put this up? >.<

[Arek the Absolute]

It is a game. The website will be here in the morning. Either go to sleep or do something to pre occupy your mind.

Fucking obsessors are acting as though the update is something that will kill you if you don't see. That is a sure sign of you needing take a break and go fucking outside.

[NeoForte]

DK Final Smash!

[Dopple Boppler]

It is a game. The website will be here in the morning. Either go to sleep or do something to pre occupy your mind.

Fucking obsessors are acting as though the update is something that will kill you if you don't see. That is a sure sign of you needing take a break and go fucking outside.

T-t-take it easy, will ya!

[Lord.Roderick.i]

ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!!!!!
And I wasn't expecting his FS to be bongo like, I just hope that it wont play the DK Rap

[JackKieser]

Pssh... for THAT wait, I was expecting something a little less... gimmicky.

--Jack Kieser

[Arek the Absolute]

Percussionists benefit well from this update.

[Hobocop]

Why all this emphasis on the bongo games :(

[friendlyHunter]

Sakurai got himself a girl.

Naw. Clearly he was just drunk.

[Edit]
Hmmm, another update that doesn't tell us much what the move actually DOES. Looks like you're supposed to run away from DK, or... maybe not? Maybe you're supposed to camp out on the safest ground (middle of the stage?)

[Lord.Roderick.i]

And now i can finally go to bed in peace :mrgreen:
kinda, but I was expecting something much better.

[FuriousFure]

hmmm... those who want to can look into this update and maybe see something deeper.

like at only certain times FS's can be invincible. stuff like that.

[Makai]

hmmm... those who want to can look into this update and maybe see something deeper.

Go to bed. We waited an hour to see a product placement cleverly disguised as a ridiculous Final Smash.

[Strike911]

Ah, DK Final Smash. Oh, cool, so you can actually play the bongos to the beat if you want? That's cool. Not as impressive as I was hoping, but interesting none the less.

to celebrate the absence of Knuckle Joe's taunting stare, and his fall from power at the top of the SmashBros.com website, I've created this image while waiting for the update....

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6282/joeke8.jpg


... it passed the time.*sigh* oh Photoshop, you card.

It is a game. The website will be here in the morning. Either go to sleep or do something to pre occupy your mind.

Fucking obsessors are acting as though the update is something that will kill you if you don't see. That is a sure sign of you needing take a break and go fucking outside.

... its all in good fun. The only real overreaction I see here is your last post.... but that's it. I enjoy the update, and it's fun to get riled up about it, but again, its all in good fun and not serious at all... it's all playful.

[friendlyHunter]

Ohh, what's that font??


like at only certain times FS's can be invincible. stuff like that.
Seems logical that ALL the final smashes make you invincible until they're over... unless you fall off the stage. Heh, I hope you can't interrupt FS's by breaking the ground underneath the guy =p

[Eulogic]

Go to bed. We waited an hour to see a product placement cleverly disguised as a ridiculous Final Smash.

If referencing other games is "product placement," how are any of the Smash Bros. games anything but?

[Makai]

If referencing other games is "product placement," how are any of the Smash Bros. games anything but?

I think it's pushing the Smash Bros. concept a little when they introduce peripherals into the gameplay. Of course, I'm forgetting the Super Scope and the like they had in Melee, but imagine if the Nintendo DS was announced as a playable item.

EDIT: Screw whatever I just said, that'd be awesome :D

[Eulogic]

I'd be interested to see how they incorporated it, but not surprised about the nature of the item itself. I could see a stylus item before a DS though.

Not to mention that the bongos do appear in the Donkey Konga games (and maybe some of the others that utilize the bongo controller).

[FuriousFure]

I think it's pushing the Smash Bros. concept a little when they introduce peripherals into the gameplay.

OMG! that'll be like Metal Gear Solid 4 having snake use a Ps3 Controller in game!

yeah, it's been happening for awhile... nothing anybody can do about it. guess we'll just have to be good little consumers and enjoy the in-game advertising.


for some reason i want to try Donkey Konga now. hmmm....

[Miletus]

Wow some of you guys sure are obsessing over these updates - and are disappointed nearly every time? Anyway I wonder whether it means you play the drums in time with the level music or if some music is overlaid when you do the final smash that you play to. Either way it sounds like a great idea, way more creative than, say, Mario's variation on 'big laser'.

[Sag Ee Mana]

Lol, about those updates maybe I feel happy to live in France and get those the morning at 9. :<

[Sir_NutS]

I must say this is one of the funniest updates so far. The expression of mario in the first pic, and wario in the third, lmao. The captions were fun too.

[eternal Zero]

I must say this is one of the funniest updates so far. The expression of mario in the first pic, and wario in the third, lmao. The captions were fun too.

I noticed Mario, too. Wario's in the third pic is jsut his getting hurt animation I would think, but I really want to know how to make Mario do that.

[megadave]

OMG! that'll be like Metal Gear Solid 4 having snake use a Ps3 Controller in game!

yeah, it's been happening for awhile... nothing anybody can do about it. guess we'll just have to be good little consumers and enjoy the in-game advertising.


for some reason i want to try Donkey Konga now. hmmm....

Well, even the inclusion of Nintendo characters could be called 'in-game advertising'.

By the way, get DK Jungle Beat - It's very fun, and the Bongos do seriously kick ass.

[Brithor]

I noticed Mario, too. Wario's in the third pic is jsut his getting hurt animation I would think, but I really want to know how to make Mario do that.

Isn't that the way Mario ends his spinning (down+B I think it was) move?

[Sir_NutS]

Isn't that the way Mario ends his spinning (down+B I think it was) move?

Yeah I thought the same. I just think they look pretty funny in the situation.

[Dunther]

I like the DK's Final Smash!
I had the same idea some days ago :)

[Neo Samus]

I hope all the Final Smashes are this creative. We already know Kirby's will be.

[Dunther]

I hope all the Final Smashes are this creative. We already know Kirby's will be.

The Kirby's Final Smash...hmm...it's unknown how it will works...maybe you can do some damage to someone and create food?

I hope that Kirby could inale food in quantity with the B button...

[megadave]

Yeah, I remember from the E3 trailer that Kirby was stirring and boiling Mario in a big pot.

[Dunther]

Yeah, I remember from the E3 trailer that Kirby was stirring and boiling Mario in a big pot.

Yes, the Cook Ability.

[Neo Samus]

Then Mario going into a rage from being burned/cooked alive!! O_O :<

[Ray Falling]

DK's Final Smash inspired me to go play Jungle Beat again, ehehe.

Off topic maybe, but Jungle Beat actually has a level in space which could very well have been the inspiration for Mario Galaxy (or vice versa). The same team was said to be working on Galaxy as well, so that wouldn't surprise me :)

Looking forward to tomorrow's update.

[nohero]

This update, along with the Jungle Beat level, make me fear that we have a very slim chance of seeing Diddy, Dixie, or K. Rool in the game. The DKCs aren't getting any love at all.

[Sag Ee Mana]

This update, along with the Jungle Beat level, make me fear that we have a very slim chance of seeing Diddy, Dixie, or K. Rool in the game. The DKCs aren't getting any love at all.

Assist Trophies !!!

[ILLiterate]

No. Diddy Kong is one of the most wanted characters in the game in Japan and North America, he will probably be in

[Makai]

No. Diddy Kong is one of the most wanted characters in the game in Japan and North America, he will probably be in

Sort of like Deoxys? :whatevaa:

[Imagery]

No. Diddy Kong is one of the most wanted characters in the game in Japan and North America, he will probably be in

I'm sure you have a factual source to back up that claim?

[Arek the Absolute]

Shut the fuck up Imagery, you wannabe elitist prick. You have been nothing but annoying with you trying to sound superior over everything, which just makes you more of a fucking ass.

He got that info from when Sakurai had the request portion of the old japanese smash bros site up.

[anclunn]

Are those results still isted anywhere? I'd like to see that poll, and how it turned out.

[Hum4n After All]

Shut the fuck up Imagery, you wannabe elitist prick. You have been nothing but annoying with you trying to sound superior over everything, which just makes you more of a fucking ass.

He got that info from when Sakurai had the request portion of the old japanese smash bros site up.

I think this picture is most appropriate for this situation.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ChaosSorceror/Kitties/banish-thee-from-this-realm-cat.jpg
lawl

[Arek the Absolute]

Make sure to say who the hell that is aimed at D:<

[Imagery]

Shut the fuck up Imagery, you wannabe elitist prick. You have been nothing but annoying with you trying to sound superior over everything, which just makes you more of a fucking ass.

He got that info from when Sakurai had the request portion of the old japanese smash bros site up.

I love it when you try to sound something other than nub. All you can do is swear your little heart out about it and you still go nowhere fast. I don't deny the basic sentiment of your claims (I = pompous ass, hurrr, ding ding we have a genius), but who cares? Fight back (in some more potent manner than sad little sobs and forum whining) or get over it.

FYI, this is why I was asking:

Are those results still isted anywhere? I'd like to see that poll, and how it turned out.

LOLOK?

[Arek the Absolute]

Oh shut the hell up Imagery.

"Fight back (in some more potent manner than sad little sobs and forum whining) or get over it."

Rofl, why waste my time going into major detail about why I am sick of almost every post you do? You have already confirmed what I have said.

I will say this, though. The difference between how you post and how someone else does, even if they both ask the same thing, is how you go about it. Honestly, yours, especially considering how you have posted in the past, has a more sarcastic tone than anclunn's post did.

Anyhow, internet drama etc etc etc i'm done.

[Imagery]

I will say this, though. The difference between how you post and how someone else does, even if they both ask the same thing, is how you go about it. Honestly, yours, especially considering how you have posted in the past, has a more sarcastic tone than anclunn's post did.

kthx I didn't know that at all... I am completely ignorant of everything I do

[Arek the Absolute]

Seems like it.

[Imagery]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ChaosSorceror/JesusFF.gif

lol

[ILLiterate]

That's a great picture

I'm sure you have a factual source to back up that claim?
I haven't seen the poll anywhere myself but Smash Boards says the Japanese Poll Sakurai took (that he does for all smash games) had Diddy as one of the highest voted characters to appear in the game, another was Ridley and we're all pretty sure he's coming as well, I've posted a few other characters on pages long ago, such as Richard Belmont

[Bigfoot]

No. Diddy Kong is one of the most wanted characters in the game in Japan and North America, he will probably be in

I thought it was Sonic? :roll:

[Imagery]

I haven't seen the poll anywhere myself but Smash Boards says the Japanese Poll Sakurai took (that he does for all smash games) had Diddy as one of the highest voted characters to appear in the game, another was Ridley and we're all pretty sure he's coming as well, I've posted a few other characters on pages long ago, such as Richard Belmont

So... your answer's no, then.

I thought it was Sonic? :roll:

He did say "one of," I'll give him that.

[Chuckles]

People please, can't you see this video game is tearing the family apart?

[Imagery]

People please, can't you see this video game is tearing the family apart?

they ruin lives you know

shit guys how did jt get in this thread??

[Inimitable]

Man these Smash Bros updates are kinda slow
Yeah but I heard Diddy Kong will probably be in the game
What? I'm sure you're not just pulling this out of your ass, are you?
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ELITIST PRICK
What

[Arek the Absolute]

This coming from someone who obviously does not read the posts in this thread very much.

Imagery and I are both the same person, if you would just look harder.

People need to notice these things.

[Inimitable]

Good thing I have all the alt accounts memorized

[Imagery]

This coming from someone who obviously does not read the posts in this thread very much.

Imagery and I are both the same person, if you would just look harder.

People need to notice these things.

sir that is a gross and offensive suggestion

I demand compensation for the emotional damage you have caused me this day

[Arek the Absolute]

Considering that we both post in the same manner about the same things basically in the same exact way, you know it is true. Though, yes I must admit, it did kill me a bit inside to type out that we are similar. It isn't exactly something easy to admit and it is a gross thought, that much is very true.

[Hum4n After All]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ChaosSorceror/JesusFF.gif

lol

I know.
xD

[BigBoss]

bigboss is my alt account

[Imagery]

Considering that we both post in the same manner about the same things basically in the same exact way, you know it is true. Though, yes I must admit, it did kill me a bit inside to type out that we are similar. It isn't exactly something easy to admit and it is a gross thought, that much is very true.

except I don't flail verbally at people I think are pretentious wiitards like a nubbley nublet

[Arek the Absolute]

D:
-------

[Imagery]

nubbley is a great word

it's pronounced like bubbly but insulting

[Arek the Absolute]

jacking it
nublet

[Imagery]

I hate you

[Effef]

So I herd there was this game called Super Smash brothers

[Imagery]

So I herd there was this game called Super Smash brothers

sounds dum

[Mastertoku]

Geez.

Sakurai was 40 mins late yesterday...

He should have posted today's update 40 mins early!

Really, I doubt we're going to see much that's actually new (ie. characters and such) until they're finished milking all the actual content they've shown us in videos but haven't actually released info on yet. Like Meta Knight. Or that Metal Gear stage (?).

[NeoForte]

New Item, Pitfall....interesting

[FuriousFure]

weird...






but could be fun.

[Airwalker]

It looks like a fun item, of course. It's nice to have things outside of the "throw at person" type objects.

:-( But I always cry a little when the update is not an amazing new character or detail.

[Hobocop]

It seems that a good chunk of the items revealed so far have multiple strategic uses. Maybe more people will take item-centric matches more seriously. Either way, I'm increasingly looking forward to being able to set up complex traps in this game.

Edit: too bad it doesn't say how long it will stay in play for...

[Strike911]

wow. In some stages this will be REALLY devious...

like those stages that have "fall-through" platforms for you to recover on. Just throw one of these little things out on those kind of recovery platforms and that's what I'd call devious.

Cool item. I like it. I can see a lot of interesting strategies manifesting with this item.

Really, there seems to be an emphasis on items that change the structure of the level, which is cool. There will be a lot "sandbox" type utems to just mess with, it seems.

[friendlyHunter]

Can someone who's played Animal Crossing tell us what the heck this thing is? Is the black stuff sticky, is it some sort of solid hole, or is it just a useless effect that temporarily appears? I'm so curious...!!


[Edit]
Indeed, played some original Smash Bros. today with items on highest; building traps with mines is so great ^_^ Especially when there aren't any comp players to obliviously walk into them. Traps and other items can totally change the dynamic of the whole fight, I love how there's more items like that in Brawl.

[Bigfoot]

Can someone who's played Animal Crossing tell us what the heck this thing is? Is the black stuff sticky, is it some sort of solid hole, or is it just a useless effect that temporarily appears? I'm so curious...!!


[Edit]
Indeed, played some original Smash Bros. today with items on highest; building traps with mines is so great ^_^ Especially when there aren't any comp players to obliviously walk into them. Traps and other items can totally change the dynamic of the whole fight, I love how there's more items like that in Brawl.

It is what it is.. it makes a player in AC fall into a pit. The black stuff is supposed to be dirt I guess.

[friendlyHunter]

But when DK's in there... is he stuck, or can he likely hop back out immediately? or.... is he about to fall clear through the stage??

[BigBoss]

fuck yeah animal crossing

[Hobocop]

Probably similar to DK's B forward in Melee or whatever Togepi does... which is ironic that he's depicted as the victim in the pictures.

[SoloGamer]

But when DK's in there... is he stuck, or can he likely hop back out immediately? or.... is he about to fall clear through the stage??

He's not stuck, he's just falling through the platform

Also, he can't fall clear through the stage, as the pitfall seems to only work on smaller platforms

If you get hit by a Pitfall, you’ll drop through pass-through floors!

[KakTheInfected]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but how cool would it be if the Animal Crossing stage in the game used a section of your AC Wii town as the setting?

...yeah, not THAT cool, but I'd like to see it.

[Ray Falling]

I have to play this game with a certain friend now! For some reason, he'll always fall for his own traps, including proximity mines and the like.
Hilarious :)

[Infinity's End]

and now it's time for... crazy theories for SSBB!!!

So basically, a few of you might have guessed, if there's an Animal Crossing Stage, then there's definitely a character that goes along with it. Further evidence that there's going to be a character based off of AC is the fact that they have the little leaf logo with the hole in it. They don't create a logo unless they are going to have a character to use it behind the percentage counter. There are two ideas that I have for who it's going to be:

1.) Tom Nook: The leaf logo is a heavy hint on that it could be good ol' Tom Nook joining the brawl. Hopefully he'll look cool and not like his N64 graphical counterpart. OR they WILL make him low-poly as a joke, much like G&W was a 2D sprite.

2.) Create-a-Character: This would be a really awesome option - you could be boy or girl, and allow you to change your eyes, hair, clothes, and maybe a hat or moustache like in Wild World. There's a ton of possibilities here. Then, each character would just play the same because they would just share the same moves set. I'm hoping they do this instead...

that's all for now!

[Zeklan]

He's not stuck, he's just falling through the platform

Also, he can't fall clear through the stage, as the pitfall seems to only work on smaller platforms

If the pitfall is thrown on solid ground, it has a holding effect like DK's Forward-B.
If it's thrown on a platform, players fall through the platform.

[Drack]

Fighting AC Town Resident Team!

...Doesn't have quite the ring to it.

For those who haven't played AC, the pitfall goes like this:
-You bury a pitfall seed.
-It is completely invisible.
-Someone steps on it.
-They fall waist-deep into the ground and cannot get back out for about 5 seconds.
-The seed is gone once they escape.

In practice, it should work like a longer duration DK forward B, in mine form.

<obligatory>
Imagine a match on Pit's stage, with just pitfall seeds and proximity mines, items on very high. Breaking the platforms to force other players to go near your traps would make for an interesting match.

Or all pitfall seeds in the DK icicle mountain-like stage they unveiled a while back (or any scrolling stage, really). Trap someone in the ground so they get killed by the scrolling.
</obligatory>

[Scufo]

If the pitfall is thrown on solid ground, it has a holding effect like DK's Forward-B.
If it's thrown on a platform, players fall through the platform.
You sure about that? Notice Sakurai says you fall through if you get hit by the pitfall. The way he says it infers that this is an effect unique to hitting someone directly with the item. If you walk into a planted one, I think you get stuck no matter where you are. Then again, I guess we can't be sure since DK is on solid ground in the first three screenshots.

[Sir_NutS]

fairly interesting item.

[eternal Zero]

>.>;

I'm being more and more disappointed by these updates as time goes on. The idea is nice and all...but it's another implementation of "make someone's move available to all". Think along the lines of the Screw Attack item. I just don't like it.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Fighting AC Town Resident Team!
<obligatory>
Imagine a match on Pit's stage, with just pitfall seeds and proximity mines, items on very high. Breaking the platforms to force other players to go near your traps would make for an interesting match.

Or all pitfall seeds in the DK icicle mountain-like stage they unveiled a while back (or any scrolling stage, really). Trap someone in the ground so they get killed by the scrolling.
</obligatory>
I was going to say the exact same thing :P
I think that would make a very interesting and fun match

[Wipomatic]

>.>;

I'm being more and more disappointed by these updates as time goes on. The idea is nice and all...but it's another implementation of "make someone's move available to all". Think along the lines of the Screw Attack item. I just don't like it.

Don't use that item then, no one's forcing you to.

[Brithor]

>.>;

I'm being more and more disappointed by these updates as time goes on. The idea is nice and all...but it's another implementation of "make someone's move available to all". Think along the lines of the Screw Attack item. I just don't like it.

Eh? This item doesn't give any moves to nobody.
It's a trap item, think more mine than DK.

[Imagery]

1.) Tom Nook: The leaf logo is a heavy hint on that it could be good ol' Tom Nook joining the brawl. Hopefully he'll look cool and not like his N64 graphical counterpart. OR they WILL make him low-poly as a joke, much like G&W was a 2D sprite.

Go back and look at the Smashville stage screenshots. Nook is in the background. It's fairly likely he won't be fighting, too.

Pitfall looks great. I'm just wondering if it will be invisible when set or have an x to mark the spot like in Animal Crossing.

[Brithor]

Well Sakurai said 'It vanishes!' so I suppose it'll be invisible. It wouln't be as much fun if it were marked.

[Hobocop]

>.>;

I'm being more and more disappointed by these updates as time goes on. The idea is nice and all...but it's another implementation of "make someone's move available to all". Think along the lines of the Screw Attack item. I just don't like it.


While I agree with being against the idea of making the effects of character's exclusive moves "available to all," I'm kind of hoping that this means they got rid of that move for DK. I just never really liked it much. Then again, I'm sure there's proof somewhere (that escapes me at the moment) where he is using this move in Brawl.

[Hector]

The problem with DK's forward-B was not so much that it was a bad idea as that the move sucked. It was too slow to connect, had not special advantages against a shield, predictable, inferior to a grab in utility and one didn't have enough time to sufficiently damage the enemy. DK's smash or charged neutral-B were far superior.

If the move was made faster, buried the foe regardless of shielding, or buried the enemy a fixed amount of time (which would have made it useful against low-damage foes), then the move would have been fine.

As to these pitfalls, they seem to have some very interesting uses.

[Ferret]

Pitfall in the wall. Pretty good idea.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Has Sakurai changed the update time or what? Is it gonna be at 1pm Japan instead of 12pm?
I hope not :S

[FuriousFure]

well, I don't think he ever actually stated the offical time of updating. so he really can't be late or early.

[Dhsu]

Just go to bed, man. You're not gonna die if you don't see it the instant it's posted.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Lol, you're right, Im also listening to the music I recently bought, and it wont fit in my iPod unless i delete some other songs :(
So I wanna listen to it all before I decide what to put and what not to put in the iPod.
:P

[Chuckles]

Sakurai must have found an exceptionally good brothel this week.

[Strike911]

Wow. I've been working this whole time and forgot about the update... and its not here...

approximately an hour and half late. wow.

SMASH BROTHER NARRATOR: A NEW RECORD!
...



I hope Sakurai didn't like... die or something...

[Amayirot Akago]

If it's taking him this long, it better be good.

*prays for Snake*

[NeoForte]

omg omg omg!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/Neo_Forte/52ly3b6.jpg

[Chuckles]

That there is not half bad.

[FuriousFure]

Hey! wow, Pitfalls! what an update! well, time for bed for me. it was worth waiting up for. man. I'm excited! woo!

[nookster]

You guys do know making a game is hard, stressfull work right? And that the updates are something that are most probabably done between running to the art departement and a meeting about recent development issues or something right?

I maybe be going out on a limb here, but i think the updates are not his work. Making the game is. So if he's late, he's not working extra hard to make the update good (making the update is een case of calling dev and telling them to mail a few screenshots), he's late because they're desperatly trying to make a deadline without sacrificing to much of what they want in there.

[Strike911]

You guys do know making a game is hard, stressfull work right? And that the updates are something that are most probabably done between running to the art departement and a meeting about recent development issues or something right?

I maybe be going out on a limb here, but i think the updates are not his work. Making the game is. So if he's late, he's not working extra hard to make the update good (making the update is een case of calling dev and telling them to mail a few screenshots), he's late because they're desperatly trying to make a deadline without sacrificing to much of what they want in there.


... or he's dead.


lawl at the Japan Time pic. hehehehehe.

[Arek the Absolute]

Hella late update or am I missing something?

[NeoForte]

Still late, haven't missed anything.

[Chuckles]

Hella late update or am I missing something?

Now, see, you went and said "hella", which means you are, in fact, missing something, but not involving SSBB.

[NeoForte]

After 6mins this update will be the longest we've waited for one.

[StarZander]

A new character! A new character! Weeeeeeeeee!


Go Ike!

[Neo Samus]

two words....FUCK...YEAH!!!!

I don't think Marth will be in Brawl.

[Amayirot Akago]

Yay, new character!

Wait, who the fuck is Ike?

Oh well, swords are teh secks, so it's all good.

[Global-Trance]

I knew they wouldn't neglect their newest Fire Emblem on the 'Cube.

[TheLeviathan]

Totally worth it.

[Hobocop]

Does the banner saying "Warning! Challenger Approaching" suggest that he will be an unlockable character, or is it just an image for the site? I'd prefer the "secret" (ie not starter) characters to remain secret until I got to unlock them... Also, do all the characters from Fire Emblem look the same, save for the colour schemes, or is it just coincidental that the characters being put into the SSB series look rather similar? Spare me the hate, I haven't gotten a chance to play the games yet :P

[KakTheInfected]

HAL is gay if they replace Marth with Ike.

[Arek the Absolute]

Holy Fuck. That is awesome.
Ephram next plzkthx
WEAPON TRIANGLE

Ew, he looks so "Gamecube"ish though.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/link/link_070523c.jpg
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/mario/mario_070523d.jpg

VS

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/ike/ike_070801a.jpg


ew...


Now, see, you went and said "hella", which means you are, in fact, missing something, but not involving SSBB.

Oh shut up. You are Californian too, so you know damn well just how much we use that word.

[Ninja-san]

YESSSSSSSSSSS! I Toally love that Ike's in the game but I hope he got the same Fire emblem moves from Melee. Roy was one of my top. But Yay :3

[Hum4n After All]

Please let there be a Golden Sun character.
Please let there be a Golden Sun character.
Please let there be a Golden Sun character.
Please let there be a Golden Sun character.
Please let there be a Golden Sun character.
Please let there be a Golden Sun character.
I fucking need
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ChaosSorceror/Isaac_lSword_CastFront2.gif

[Vidilian]

Now if they can just get Hector and Lyn in on the action I'll be a happy boy. I'm pretty sure they'll leave Marth in the game. I think of him as the main character of the FE series since he came first.

[Ray Falling]

Heck yesh!

I hope he'll have a different moveset from the other FE characters though. His description suggests he has a flare blade-ish move 0_0; but I'm hoping that he can also do the shockwaves, a la demon fang (ToS)

Aether is great stuff too though :) Man, now I need to play FE again ;_; and I have so much other stuff to do first...

*goes play anyway*

[Zeklan]

Fuck Yeah, Ike!

[eternal Zero]

I'd prefer Lyn, but it's better than Marth and Roy. I just hope Aether looks freaking badass.

[Drack]

Aether is Ike's Uber move from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance.

It's a two part attack. He jumps up with his sword (Like marth/roy's B-up) then comes crashing down on them, kind of like Kirby's B-up.

But most importantly, in FE:PoR, this move HEALS Ike for about half the damage it does. You can literally have him do missions solo because of this.

[eternal Zero]

Sorry if I wasn't clear on my point. I have played the game, I know the awesomeness that is Aether. I just hope that Brawl gives it justice. It'll probably be his final smash? So it actually might heal him but only hit a single target?

[Sir_NutS]

Well that's nice, new characters announcements. I hope Sakurai doesn't goes as far as to announce all new characters though. But for those who whine every day about lame updates, this one was for you.

[Alpine Flame]

Remember that we have updates going to the games release (hopefully) which will be in December. Thats about 100 days with updates between now and then. Thats alot of room. Anyway, I like Ike. Or any of FE characters. Now I just keep praying for someone to show up with something other than a sword for a main weapon.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/ike/ike.jpg

Wow, that sword is unbelievably phallic.

[megadave]

Every sword is phallic.

[Cerrax]

Every sword is phallic.

*cough*cloud*cough*

[Baleshadow]

It is awesome that Ike is confirmed. Here's hoping for Hector!

[Imagery]

Does the banner saying "Warning! Challenger Approaching" suggest that he will be an unlockable character, or is it just an image for the site? I'd prefer the "secret" (ie not starter) characters to remain secret until I got to unlock them... Also, do all the characters from Fire Emblem look the same, save for the colour schemes, or is it just coincidental that the characters being put into the SSB series look rather similar? Spare me the hate, I haven't gotten a chance to play the games yet :P

I think the banner is just a confirmation that this is, in fact, a new character announcement. Without it, people might be skeptical and wonder if we're getting another assist trophy.

[nookster]

On the Ike update, what's happening in de third picture? Looks like some kind of forcre/light/wind arrow. Not sure what's going there. Could be the last frames of links spin attack though.

Thoughts?

[Admiral_C]

There's a similar beam of light in the 2nd pic with samus, so I'm assuming its part of his atk animation...

[JoeFu]

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAH!


IKE!

He is so going to be my character.

[Bigfoot]

Great, his sword range is going to be even bigger than Marth's, lol.

[Scufo]

I think the banner is just a confirmation that this is, in fact, a new character announcement. Without it, people might be skeptical and wonder if we're getting another assist trophy.
That's what the little "character" icon in the top-right is for. Plus he's added to the list of characters, so I don't think there'd be any confusion in that aspect.

Regardless, it would be terrible if they revealed unlockable characters before the game is released.

[Imagery]

That's what the little "character" icon in the top-right is for. Plus he's added to the list of characters, so I don't think there'd be any confusion in that aspect.

Regardless, it would be terrible if they revealed unlockable characters before the game is released.

That would be terrible, but you never really know what's going through crazy Japanese game developers' heads.

EDIT: Notice that when you go to Ike's entry through the Characters page, that banner doesn't appear? I think if Sakurai meant for that banner to signify that he's a hidden character, it would be consistent. I'm really sure this is just Sakurai's way of being dramatic about the new character announcement. You know some cheesy greasy fanboys wouldn't believe their eyes if that wasn't there to help break the news.

[Jam Stunna]

two words....FUCK...YEAH!!!!

I don't think Marth will be in Brawl.

It's more likely that Ike is Roy's replacement, since Aether pretty much is a jazzed-up Flare Blade.

I'd prefer Lyn, but it's better than Marth and Roy. I just hope Aether looks freaking badass.

*Points to sig*
There's still hope...

[FuriousFure]

well to me, when i got the page up it seemed more like a spoiler warning banner. cause that's all i could see, and i had to scroll down to see it.

maybe those who do not want to have the secrets revealed shouldn't look at the site. otherwise don't complain if it is unlockable people.

[Imagery]

well to me, when i got the page up it seemed more like a spoiler warning banner. cause that's all i could see, and i had to scroll down to see it.

maybe those who do not want to have the secrets revealed shouldn't look at the site. otherwise don't complain if it is unlockable people.

What the hell kind of resolution are you using? There's no excuse for anything like 640x480 or even 800x600 these days, and it's very very unlikely that the site is designed for such a low resolution, so your... experience is completely of your own accord

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Great, his sword range is going to be even bigger than Marth's, lol.
Which IMO would suck, cuz its kinda unfair for slow chars or some other chars.

[ILLiterate]

Can someone say top tier?

But seriously, at least he looks like a bad ass, not some tiara wearing bitch

[JoeFu]

I read that Sakurai didn't show unlockable characters profiles until after the game, so Ike is pretty much not unlockable. I think Mete-Knight is an unlockable and Snake is too, thats why we haven't seen their profiles yet.

ANyways, I wonder if Ike's Ragnell can shoot stuff out like it did in POR.

[eternal Zero]

*Points to sig*
There's still hope...

You know it!

[Drack]

Aether is Ike's Uber move from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance.

It's a two part attack. He jumps up with his sword (Like marth/roy's B-up) then comes crashing down on them, kind of like Kirby's B-up.

But most importantly, in FE:PoR, this move HEALS Ike for about half the damage it does. You can literally have him do missions solo because of this.

Sorry if I wasn't clear on my point. I have played the game, I know the awesomeness that is Aether. I just hope that Brawl gives it justice. It'll probably be his final smash? So it actually might heal him but only hit a single target?
My post wasn't aimed at you. It was to explain the mentioned move for those who haven't played the game.

[Jaybell]

It's about time a new character was announced! I myself have never played Fire Emblem, but I have heard greatness about it. And besides, that didn't stop me from owning it up as Marth/Roy in Melee. Ike looks about eighty times more badass, if only for his giant glowing sword.

[Strike911]

I am excited. I loved Path of Radiance! And Ike was an awesome character. ^_^_^_^_^_^_^

[Sag Ee Mana]

Roy is my roommate favorite character in Melee, and I love when the swordman says something like "Sangriaaaa" (private joke between my roommate, Doulifee and me when we fight all the night >_>)

I love too the sound when Link's and Roy's swords hit each other...

I wonder what will say Ike when fighting (other than "Yaaah" stuff)

xD

Back to Touhou for now...

[eternal Zero]

He actually had a voiced role in PoR, so I expect he'll speak clear English like the other two spoke pretty good Japanese...except for Roy, lol, he usually grunted instead of talking.

[Arek the Absolute]

I am curious if Sakurai plans on having this be balanced, cause somethings are just like "huh" now to me.

I really hope this doesn't turn into Soul Calibur 3 *console version*.

[Mastertoku]

This is what I was waiting for.

Now I can stop staying up late every night! I can finally go to bed! Sleep is mine once again!

I hope his Lord appearance is available as a costume change, though.

But... one wonders... they had two Emblem characters last time...

I've got my fingers crossed for Hector, Lyndis, Myrrh and the Black Knight. (Though Myrrh could probably be an assist trophy, eh?)

[Ciel]

Okay, now please add Lyndis and Eirika.

[Arek the Absolute]

We can do without Lyndis or Eirika. One sword character from FE is enough. If anything, bring in Ephiram and Hector. Weapon triangle kthx.

ps stop fanboying over lyn she isn't hot eirika is hotter i mean look at those boots lol ciel gots the right idea except the lyndis part

[FuriousFure]

What the hell kind of resolution are you using? There's no excuse for anything like 640x480 or even 800x600 these days, and it's very very unlikely that the site is designed for such a low resolution, so your... experience is completely of your own accord

Wow... talk about over-reaction! this just shows what a complete douche you truly are.
For your information, the resolution that am using for my screen is 1280 x 800.
and I'm pretty sure that's "acceptable" in 21st century.

So why don't you just go home and be quiet, you assclown.