Super Smash Bros. Brawl [Archive] - Page 31

Raziellink

10-10-2007, 08:32 AM

Coming from someone who said Sheik's grabs were weak, 'dead' is looking more and more like a fun time. :P :P :P :P :P

Edit: I still love you.

Also from my previous post a few pages back...

01 - Smash Emblem
02 - DK Initials [Donkey Kong Series]
03 - Starfox Insigna [Starfox Series]
04 - Star [Kirby Series]
05 - Falcon Icon [F-Zero Series]
06 - S Logo [Metroid Series]
07 - Mother Symbol [Earthbound Series]
08 - Pokeball [Pokemon Series]
09 - Triforce [Zelda Series]
10 - Mushroom [Mario Series]
11 - Yoshi Egg [Yoshi Series]
12 - Sword [Fire Emblem Series]
13 - ?
14 - Plum [Ice Climber Series]
15 - Leaf [Animal Crossing Series]
16 - Wario's W [Wario Series]
17 - FOX Unit Logo [Metal Gear Solid Series]
18 - Pit's Bow [Kid Icarus Series]
19 - ?
20 - Hedgehog Head [Sonic Series]

If 1-14 are vets and 15 and higher are new challengers... It looks like 13 might very well be Mr. Game & Watch since he's the only person left who could be a vet who's icon hasn't be unveiled yet.

Ok, i'll bite. Where did you get this list? Where can you see the icons?

Paratha

10-10-2007, 08:40 AM

View the image of a character series icon (e.g. the tiny Sonic head in the most recent update), and you'll see a file name like world_b_XX.gif, where XX is the series number listed in G-T's post.

So Sonic is #20, since the icon file name is http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_20.gif.

Raziellink

10-10-2007, 08:43 AM

Global-Trance

10-10-2007, 08:46 AM

Show us Game and Watch already to show us #13. :)

KyleJCrb

10-10-2007, 08:46 AM

This is the Smash update I've been waiting for. I was going to buy it anyway, but Sonic just seals the deal.

Arrow

10-10-2007, 08:48 AM

Previous to this update, Pit's icon was numbered as 18, the highest. Now with the unveiling of Sonic, his icon is numbered at 20...

Any guesses as to what icon 19 will be?

Edit: Also it looks like icon 13 is still yet to be unveiled...

13 is Game and Watch, as 12 through 14 all seem to be franchises that debuted in Melee, and G&W is the only one left to reveal from that game. 15 on are franchises new to Brawl, and seem to be alphabetically ordered by their Japanese names translated to English. That means 19 has to be a franchise between Myth of Light (Kid Icarus) and Sonic the Hedgehog.

Possibilities I can immediately think of off the top of my head are Rockman, Pac-man, Pikmin, and Punch Out.

That also means that Castlevania, Resident Evil, and any Square-Enix franchise (except Wild Arms and Xenogears) are right out, since their letters have already been passed up.

Dunther

10-10-2007, 08:49 AM

Oh, and incidentally - in the trailer, after Bowser and Peach's inexplicable dancing, Pit appears to be descending from the sky!... does this mean a return of character intros (as with the original Smash Bros.?)
I'm sure of it...there are too many hints that make me think about it.....like Snake with all the electricity saying "Keep you waiting, uh?"

01 - Smash Emblem
02 - DK Initials [Donkey Kong Series]
03 - Starfox Insigna [Starfox Series]
04 - Star [Kirby Series]
05 - Falcon Icon [F-Zero Series]
06 - S Logo [Metroid Series]
07 - Mother Symbol [Earthbound Series]
08 - Pokeball [Pokemon Series]
09 - Triforce [Zelda Series]
10 - Mushroom [Mario Series]
11 - Yoshi Egg [Yoshi Series]
12 - Sword [Fire Emblem Series]
13 - ?
14 - Plum [Ice Climber Series]
15 - Leaf [Animal Crossing Series]
16 - Wario's W [Wario Series]
17 - FOX Unit Logo [Metal Gear Solid Series]
18 - Pit's Bow [Kid Icarus Series]
19 - ?
20 - Hedgehog Head [Sonic Series]

If 1-14 are vets and 15 and higher are new challengers... It looks like 13 might very well be Mr. Game & Watch since he's the only person left who could be a vet who's icon hasn't be unveiled yet.

So who can be the 19? That's the question...

Paratha

10-10-2007, 08:53 AM

You know, #13 could be Mach Rider, since a song and a trophy were in Melee.

Raziellink

10-10-2007, 08:59 AM

Who says they'll stick to just 20 franchises?

Global-Trance

10-10-2007, 08:59 AM

Yea but he doesn't fall in the category of being a vet... Icons 1-14 are icons of series that have already made an appearance in Smash. It's very possible that there will be many more characters. Melee had 25 (26 if you're picky and count Sheik) and we've yet to get to 25 characters... Is it safe to assume the original four secret characters from 64 (Luigi, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, and Ness) are going to return again? I'd like to say they're keeping those four a secret as a throwback to the original Smash... but that's just me.

Kiyosuki

10-10-2007, 09:01 AM

I just hope his stage has a cool rearrange of a classic Sonic stage song, like the good old Green Hill, something from Sonic CD, or a medley...

...and not the in this WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRLD stuff.

JackKieser

10-10-2007, 09:06 AM

Dude, G-T, that sig making, while simple, was fast. Kudos to probably be one of the first people with sig stuffs from that update (that actually took some sort of work besides screen cap).

And, indeed, sneaky use of spy-like tactics to figure out the 1-20 thing, although I agree with Raziellink; 20 franchises, while a lot to be certain, could still be expanded on. And, personally, after they take care of the Falcon update, I'd like to see them add something totally off the wall. I mean, we all, deep down, knew that Sonic was in. Now, we need him to do something crazy again to show us he's not mellowing out during crunch time.

--Jack Kieser

superjoe30

10-10-2007, 09:15 AM

Zomg Sonic The Hedgehog!

Ray Falling

10-10-2007, 09:30 AM

I don't like Sonic as a character, but it's a very nice update and he looks like he may play quite nicely.

Am I the only one uber excited about the adventure mode though? Blasting through the barrel invested jungle of DK simply looks fantastic :) Just like old times. *flashback to me playing DKC1 over 10 years* (wow, I had bad hair back then ;) )

I'm hoping the release in Europe will follow shortly after US release. T__T;

Vyse the Three Eyes

10-10-2007, 09:30 AM

This is the second time that a video involving Sonic has made me wonder if I was dreaming. The other was the revealing of Shadow the Hedgehog, and that was more wondering if I was stuck in a nightmare.

But this is just epic. I agree with the assertings that Megaman is most likely in, he'd work too well to pass up.

but Tails

You'd tolerate emo-angst gun toting 'dark loner' hedgehog, but not the most iconic character in the series besides Sonic himself?

Dunnowhathuh

10-10-2007, 09:31 AM

Haha, Sonic, awesome stuff.

Theory of N

10-10-2007, 09:48 AM

01 - Smash Emblem
02 - DK Initials [Donkey Kong Series]
03 - Starfox Insigna [Starfox Series]
04 - Star [Kirby Series]
05 - Falcon Icon [F-Zero Series]
06 - S Logo [Metroid Series]
07 - Mother Symbol [Earthbound Series]
08 - Pokeball [Pokemon Series]
09 - Triforce [Zelda Series]
10 - Mushroom [Mario Series]
11 - Yoshi Egg [Yoshi Series]
12 - Sword [Fire Emblem Series]
13 - ?
14 - Plum [Ice Climber Series]
15 - Leaf [Animal Crossing Series]
16 - Wario's W [Wario Series]
17 - FOX Unit Logo [Metal Gear Solid Series]
18 - Pit's Bow [Kid Icarus Series]
19 - ?
20 - Hedgehog Head [Sonic Series]

So, is there a possibility all the logos are uploaded to the site already? If so, I say we all try to force the link to #13.

KakTheInfected

10-10-2007, 09:55 AM

You'd tolerate emo-angst gun toting 'dark loner' hedgehog, but not the most iconic character in the series besides Sonic himself?

Precisely. Besides, someone would have to die if Tails US VA was in Brawl.

Shonen Samurai

10-10-2007, 09:57 AM

So, is there a possibility all the logos are uploaded to the site already? If so, I say we all try to force the link to #13.

404'd. Sorry!

JackKieser

10-10-2007, 10:09 AM

Damn it all! Well, it was worth a shot. And how nutty would THAT have been? I can almost hear Sakurai now...

"And here is our 'hidden' info! You can see it right here on this page? Isn't it convenient?"

--Jack Kieser

EDIT: You know, I have to say that after scrutinizing the video so many times, what I consider to be the best part about this update is that Sonic actually looks and (seems like he) feels like Sonic. I was joking with some friends earlier and said, "See? Look! Sonic can be awesome when he's not in the hands of Sonic Team!"... but it seems that's exactly the case. For the first time in a long time, Sonic looks like he's himself again, and that's awesome. I mean, he looks, moves, and acts exactly like I would have expected him to do. I was really impressed when I saw all the effort put into Snake with the voice actors and the CODEC sequences... but I have to say, seeing Sonic as a badass again feels just about as good, if not better.

Kudo, Sakurai, for actually putting your heart and soul into Sonic. We as gamers really appreciate it, because you're on the path of giving us one of our icons back.

...and fuck Sonic Team.

Wipomatic

10-10-2007, 10:51 AM

I seriously doubt we'll see any more Sonic characters beyond assist trophies. Remember, Sakurai said after Snake we'll be looking at 1 or 2 more third party characters. If there is another third party character it's most likely going to be Bomberman or Megaman or someone along those lines.

The Author

10-10-2007, 11:00 AM

The prophecy, it has come. Sonic in a good game.

...

It has been so long. Too bad it spells armageddons.

superjoe30

10-10-2007, 11:00 AM

I don't like Sonic as a character

Just do what I do and pretend Sega didn't make any games after the Genesis. Yay Sonic!

Takashi

10-10-2007, 11:03 AM

you know who should be number 19

Viewtiful Joe..hell yeah Henshin-A-Go-Go Baby!
what that was the GCN game of the year and was really loved by the critics and he'd be sweet for brawl
...though that would be a dream..sigh...chances are that Dan Smith might get in over Joe though..stupid lack of fans

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 11:16 AM

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh shit
my friend is going to flip

supremespleen

10-10-2007, 11:18 AM

ohhh my goodness!
i never would have thought :o

makes sense, what with olympic games and all

Wipomatic

10-10-2007, 11:18 AM

Does anyone know how to download the clips off the site? I'd like to be able to watch this without having to load it each time.

Mr.Roboto

10-10-2007, 11:26 AM

Sonic before Captain Falcon.

Fuck you Nintendo.Fuck you.

Hopefully he's playable at E 4 All.

*Sigh*Sonic would have been a nice surprise to know without reading about it.

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 11:27 AM

I'm not really a fan of Sonic. I guess that Nintendo fanboy of myself when I was little is still inside of me :P

But seriously, they're really good at making things work. Sonic looks like he'll be a good character.

Broken

10-10-2007, 11:29 AM

Well the shit's hit the fan now. After this update I can't really count anyone out of the Brawl line-up. Who's next- Ryu Hyabusa?

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 11:29 AM

Fuck. Look at the left side of the screen. Release Date: TBD.

wut da FUX MAN
so much for SET RELEASE DATE
hurr at us
hurr at us indeed

nice japan gets it in 08
since they got this game before we did last year, bet we are getting it in 08 too
bummer

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 11:32 AM

Well the shit's hit the fan now. After this update I can't really count anyone out of the Brawl line-up. Who's next- Ryu Hyabusa?

Cloud, duh.

Zeklan

10-10-2007, 11:40 AM

Yay.
No seriously.

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 11:44 AM

just to clarify was it reggie who said at e3 that we would be getting this game in dec cause if so he lied
he LIED

supremespleen

10-10-2007, 11:46 AM

I better have my December 3. I will be so pissed.

edit: sonic might overtake falco/samus as my main. soooo much nostalgia.

XZero

10-10-2007, 11:52 AM

I don't think the December 3 release date is out. It is street dated in the GameStop computer; to clarify, that means that there is a date next to it, then a title (as there is with every game), and then it says (STD:12/03). Companies, to the best of my knowledge, never street date a game without it being official. That having been said, yesterday's post means that the worldwide release date is 12/3.

Of course, this game could be the exception to the street date rule. I don't recall, though; did the release date section on the left ever actually say 12/3?

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 11:56 AM

yes
and no at the worldwide release cause go look at japans release date
k
thx

Jam Stunna

10-10-2007, 11:57 AM

This update is fan service for anyone who had to live during the early 90's and choose between Mario and Sonic. I just gave my third-grade self a high five.

Theory of N

10-10-2007, 11:58 AM

Yeah, it did. Maybe they just recently decided to put Sonic in the game. They said the info was released at a Fall 07 Nintendo conference and that's about as inside as it gets. Also, this

There’s still a little more development to be done... I’m hoping to complete it without incident.

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 12:05 PM

sakurai could at least do us a favor and take THIS (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info01.html) down

JackKieser

10-10-2007, 12:05 PM

Personally, I think that the US date is still on, but just in case, they pulled it down from the US site just in case something goes terribly, terribly wrong and we get pushed back to Japan's date. There really isn't much to say that Sakurai is so deep in work that they have to push the game back for us (JP never technically got a firm date, so they haven't been pushed back yet), and he even said himself that, barring tragic acts of some higher power, the game is still on track.

But I could be wrong. Here's hoping. *takes a drink of brandy*

--Jack Kieser

Raziellink

10-10-2007, 12:09 PM

Since no date has been released for Europe, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. :)

Red Shadow

10-10-2007, 12:09 PM

all the kids at smashboards are having a field day with this

Mewtation

10-10-2007, 12:15 PM

Oh, shit, now they have to have Shadow. That would make my fucking day.

Don't complain about later release dates. Later release dates mean they have more time to make sure the game doesn't suck, right?

iskyoork

10-10-2007, 12:16 PM

All I have to say is YaY Awesome.

Takashi

10-10-2007, 12:25 PM

I had a revelation!
Sakuri said on sonic's screen
The one whose Smash appearance has been most desiredhes in from far away at supersonic speed.

What does that mean..Sakuri is listening to us...he's listening to the fans and seriously I commend him for it hell Smash Bros Brawl really is one big fan-service

but then another thought popped in my head.. the big poll they had when this game was announced..If memory serves Sonic was the most requested character...then I started thinking on some of the other characters that have been announced that were on that list

Lyn(Assist Trophy), Diddy (Playable), Samurai Goroh(Assist Trophy), Ike(Playable), Andross(Assist Trophy).. just to name a few

so chances are he might of got most of the requests that were on there in some form or another...

you all are pry thinking while reading this, what of the third third party character... Sakuri said only 3

well if memory serves who was the second most wanted third party?

Geno (if he counts as third party..not 100% on that one), Megaman, and Simon Belmont

so its pry between those 3..2 if geno isnt third party

Raziellink

10-10-2007, 12:29 PM

Time to jump on the bandwagon and have a Smash banner of my own. At least mine has Captain Falcon in it...

Ninja-san

10-10-2007, 12:29 PM

Haha I was wondering why the page was taking so long to load. Looks like Sonic's gonna be fun to play as.

Infinity's End

10-10-2007, 12:30 PM

*Prays for Megaman to be the next 3rd party character*
actually it's highly likely that the next character unveiled will be 3rd party. If you check the filenames of each of the icons next to the character names, they're numbered:
01 - Smash Bros.
02 - Donkey Kong
03 - Star Fox
04 - Kirby
05 - F-Zero
06 - Metroid
07 - Earthbound
08 - Pokémon
09 - Zelda
10 - Mario
11 - Yoshi
12 - Fire Emblem
13 - ???
14 - Ice Climber
15 - Animal Crossing
16 - Wario
17 - Snake
18 - Kid Icarus
19 - ???
20 - Sonic

SO... #13 and #19 are left... most people believe Game & Watch is gonna be #13, but who knows?

iskyoork

10-10-2007, 12:36 PM

If MegaMan is the third, I will never have to buy another video game again.

Raziellink

10-10-2007, 12:43 PM

One i'd most rather see, is Terry Bogard.

Or i could keep on dreaming.

Mr. Wizard

10-10-2007, 12:46 PM

Now I'm hoping for a Casino Night Zone level. It probably won't happen, though.

Kureejii Lea

10-10-2007, 12:49 PM

I like X better than Rock, but that's just me. The latter would probably be chosen to represent the series as a whole.

Anyway, Sonic - haha, awesome. Looks like that downward kick is from Sonic Battle even.

Green Hill Zone is an obvious choice, but I hope they go in another direction in terms of stages. Green Hill's always used (SA2 bonus stage, Sonic Advance 3's remixes, etc..), and as iconic as it is, I'd love for some other levels/music to get some love. There are a lot of neat visuals from across the series and tons of great music.

An Angel Island stage that periodically falls into the water and rises again could be fun. Rouge could run off with the emerald.

Wonder if chao will make an appearance. An angry swarm of the little guys for assist trophy?

Zeklan

10-10-2007, 12:56 PM

Although Green Hill does seem the most likely choice, I would love to see a Starlight Zone or Death Egg level.

!Nekko!

10-10-2007, 01:00 PM

Shhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeet.

I'm not surprised, but now I don't have to keep wondering.

And wheres captain falcon?

megadave

10-10-2007, 01:00 PM

Holy Mother Of Christ It's Sonic The Fucking Hedgehog!!!

dsx100

10-10-2007, 01:03 PM

*Wow who would have guessed Sonic would be in Brawl!*

Seriously though, this is awsome. Everybody knew he was going to be a playable character but at least its official now. I also really really hope they don't delay this game like they did in japan. It would be the worst delay in the history of video games.

Zeklan

10-10-2007, 01:06 PM

Red Sonic
White Sonic
Green Sonic
Black/Red Sonic

Alternate colors are fun.

Airwalker

10-10-2007, 01:10 PM

If Brawl has Sonic, how do you think they'd reveal it? Would they save it for the last week to create a lot of hype, or would they throw it out at some earlier point--maybe just hint at it? Or perhaps it would be a secret through launch?

My guess? The day after Sonic and Mario Olympics is released, as to not take any of the swagger away from that being their first cross-game.

I guess we were all wrong on this one.

megadave

10-10-2007, 01:12 PM

If MegaMan is the third, I will never have to buy another video game again.

At least not for a veeeerrrry long time. Seriously, if MegaMan is in there, I will eat my shirt. Seriously, if he's in there, and anyone says that it's not the best game ever, they will be wrong.

Zeklan

10-10-2007, 01:16 PM

Seriously, if MegaMan is in there, I will eat my shirt. Seriously, if he's in there, and anyone says that it's not the best game ever, they will be wrong.

This man speaks the truth.

!Nekko!

10-10-2007, 01:18 PM

Sonic looks like he'll be a big combo-er like Falcon. Looks like I finally found my second, maybe.

Dunther

10-10-2007, 01:25 PM

Alternate colors are fun.
Alternate costumes are better.

Airwalker

10-10-2007, 01:25 PM

sakurai could at least do us a favor and take THIS (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info01.html) down

They took it down on the Japan site...

anthonium

10-10-2007, 01:31 PM

I think I just peed myself a lil

Sir_NutS

10-10-2007, 01:34 PM

The internet just exploded.

Moseph

10-10-2007, 01:36 PM

ZOMGWTFSONIC!!!1

That's all I have to say.

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 01:36 PM

Captain Falcon better be the next character revealed. :(

Airwalker

10-10-2007, 01:54 PM

Moseph

10-10-2007, 02:08 PM

Is anybody else a little sad with the English voice actor for Sonic?

After all, we all know Family Matter's Jaleel White is the true voice of Sonic. (I just bought the Sonic SatAm series last week...)

I always preferred playing Sonic Adventure 2 with the Japanese voices.

Presumably the existence of Sonic in Brawl means we can also look forward to some Sonic items ... shields, perhaps?

Triad Orion

10-10-2007, 02:30 PM

"Hot damn!"

That's about what I have to say about today's update. :P

HideousBeing

10-10-2007, 02:35 PM

They took it down on the Japan site...
Wait, why?
So Sonic joins. What little dialog he has is of course, corny as everything he says in his new games. Bring back the un-arrogant Sonic from 2D sega. *Sighs* I guess I could just pretend.

megadave

10-10-2007, 02:57 PM

Alpine Flame

10-10-2007, 03:04 PM

Wait, why?
So Sonic joins. What little dialog he has is of course, corny as everything he says in his new games. Bring back the un-arrogant Sonic from 2D sega. *Sighs* I guess I could just pretend.

I think sonic was supposed to be mute. Kinda like, this is the price you pay for being this fraking fast. I could totally see a gory webcomic on it.
"We can make him uver-fast, but his legs will look like sticks and he wont be able to talk." Doctor has flashback
"This is just like the operation we did on that Mario guy! You know where we made him have a super-jump? Too bad he's hooked on shrooms now...
Doc reaches for a laser and shoots a few guilt viruses outta the way.

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 03:10 PM

Hmm, it looks like Sonic's upB will have a spring appear beneath him as it shoots him up.

Cecilff2

10-10-2007, 03:26 PM

I like X better than Rock, but that's just me. The latter would probably be chosen to represent the series as a whole.

I'd prefer zero to either of those actually. But thats not gonna happen cause he isn't the mascot of the megaman games. I could see him being an assist and he just runs in, blasts someone's arm off and leaves.

cobaltstarfire

10-10-2007, 03:33 PM

Wait, why?
So Sonic joins. What little dialog he has is of course, corny as everything he says in his new games. Bring back the un-arrogant Sonic from 2D sega. *Sighs* I guess I could just pretend.

I dunno, he seemed kind of arrogant/attitudey in a way in the old games too (and the movie, and the american cartoons), the way they characterized him in the newer games didn't seem to be much of a leap at all beyound adding voices to the characters.

I feel kind of giddy about this update, but sad too because Tails is awesome and it's pretty certain he won't be a playable character along side sonic.

Sonic looks like a fun character to play, I'm still going to main Yoshi though.

JackKieser

10-10-2007, 04:07 PM

Moseph

10-10-2007, 04:27 PM

I just now thought of something; I guess it's kind of obvious, but it's really early here, and I'm still kind of out of it.

Ok, so Sonic will, apparently, be an active character in the Subspace Emissary... that means that the third party character will actually be included in this little storyline... which, theoretically means that Snake can have a part in the story, too. Personally, I think that's great, as it would have been strange if the third party characters were left out of SSE just because they were third party... and because if you're going to fight an army, why WOULDN'T you want Solid Snake on your side?

Not to mention the fastest being alive. That helps, too. :)

--Jack Kieser

Actually, I've never understood why people have been saying third-party characters won't be involved in the story. The whole SSB universe is basically one great big parody (as the Metal Gear codec clips have demonstrated) -- any character can be made to fit very easily. I also can't see why the mere fact of being third-party would make a difference. If the characters' original companies had some sort of problem with what Nintendo was doing with the characters in SSB, they wouldn't have licensed the characters to Nintendo in the first place.

Strike911

10-10-2007, 04:45 PM

Bring back the un-arrogant Sonic from 2D sega. *Sighs* I guess I could just pretend.

Sonic's always been arrogant and too cool for school. In Sonic 1 and 2 he's get pissed and tap his foot if you made him wait. Additionally, Sega's marketting and advertising departments were on record saying that the tried to make a Sonic look cooler and have "more attitude" than Mario, his chief competition at the time. He's always been like that, and like they said above, he's been portrayed that way in all the cartoons, comic books, and such 15 years ago. The more recent games are a different intepretation of the character, but fundamentally he's the same quirky, attitude filled hedgehog.

:)

After all, we all know Family Matter's Jaleel White is the true voice of Sonic. (I just bought the Sonic SatAm series last week...)

DID IIII DO THAAAT???

HEH HEH HA *SNORT*

.... okay that's enough Steve Urkel stuff.

ILLiterate

10-10-2007, 04:53 PM

If that air dive move is a A move, combined with his speed, Sonic is going to be a bastard to be reckoned with

The Pezman

10-10-2007, 05:05 PM

I get the feeling that, because Nintendo's running the show, Sonic will be gutted to Mewtwo-like extents.

Also, you know what time it is?

IT'S TIME FOR A SONIC SPIN!!!! W00H00!!!!!11111

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 05:06 PM

i would be happy
except you know the pushback and all
what a way to mask the delay with this update

Geoffrey Taucer

10-10-2007, 05:24 PM

i would be happy
except you know the pushback and all
what a way to mask the delay with this update

Worth it. I'd rather see it delayed and have them take the time to perfect it than see them rush it out the door unfinished.

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 05:26 PM

<Larry> when it's out, you and every other whiner will still buy it/play it
<Nicholas> hell ya i will
<Nicholas> no doubt in my mind on that
<Larry> then your complaints are a moot point
<Nicholas> im mainly bitter cause i requested the release date off and its hard as fuck for me to get days off at my job
<Nicholas> so its like
<Nicholas> fuck

truth

Broken

10-10-2007, 05:32 PM

Worth it. I'd rather see it delayed and have them take the time to perfect it than see them rush it out the door unfinished.

I say, as long as it's here by Christmas time, it's fine. What would be best is if they timed up the release of the game with an influx of unit wii shipments to retailers (so, you know I could play the game on my own wii,) but I don't see either of those things happening. And, Taucer, I agree that the developers should have some flexibility on their release date, but they should be accountable for having the game out in a reasonable amount of time (I'm hoping this quarter, but it better not end up pulling a Twilight Princess.)

Strike911

10-10-2007, 05:37 PM

There has been a lot of games coming out first in NA and later in Japan... if SSBB does this, it wouldn't be the first, so there's still hope.

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 05:39 PM

I say, as long as it's here by Christmas time, it's fine. What would be best is if they timed up the release of the game with an influx of unit wii shipments to retailers (so, you know I could play the game on my own wii,) but I don't see either of those things happening. And, Taucer, I agree that the developers should have some flexibility on their release date, but they should be accountable for having the game out in a reasonable amount of time (I'm hoping this quarter, but it better not end up pulling a Twilight Princess.)

Oh man, if they pulled a Twilight Princess, I would be very saddened...

Neo Samus

10-10-2007, 05:39 PM

Nothing's offical about the pushback on the US release date.

I knew Sonic was gonna be in Brawl. Now, about Falcon.....Sakurai-san if you are reading any of our posts, announce Falcon NOW!!!!

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 05:42 PM

I couldn't help notice Sonic doing a sort of "Falcon Kick" like move in the movie. Could he be a replacement for your beloved falcon?
kek let the rumors flood

Neo Samus

10-10-2007, 05:45 PM

I couldn't help notice Sonic doing a sort of "Falcon Kick" like move in the movie. Could he be a replacement for your beloved falcon?
kek let the rumors flood

No way. Falcon's gotta be in it.

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 05:46 PM

But how can you be certain?
come children fall prey to your inner doubt

Neo Samus

10-10-2007, 05:48 PM

Arek the Absolute

10-10-2007, 05:54 PM

Neo Samus

10-10-2007, 06:00 PM

Where exactly are you guys seeing these damn icons?
A link would be very helpful.

I would post it but I'm at work....damn filters!!!! But the icons are on the top left of each update. For example, Sonic. Where you see his name (above his picture) to the left of his name shows his icon. I hope this helps. If not, can someone post an image, and if possible not from Smashbros.....filter blocks the images from there.....

Wipomatic

10-10-2007, 06:12 PM

Maybe they'll release Brawl in Europe first!
Yeah, I know they won't. :-(

Geoffrey Taucer

10-10-2007, 06:20 PM

Oh man, if they pulled a Twilight Princess, I would be very saddened...

It would be better than pulling a Xenogears; releasing a half-finished game that could have, had the dev team had more time and money, been far and away the greatest game of all time.

Alpine Flame

10-10-2007, 06:20 PM

Maybe they'll release Brawl in Europe first!
Yeah, I know they won't. :-(

That will happen when the americas are taken over by Europe. It's bound to happen sometime...

Geoffrey Taucer

10-10-2007, 06:22 PM

That will happen when the americas are taken over by Europe. It's bound to happen sometime...

Since Europe's been so successful at that in the past.

GameBrain_vX

10-10-2007, 06:31 PM

Honestly, I really don't know. But Falcon is one of the most popular characters in Smash. Plus, haven't they shown his logo when they announced Goroh as an assist? Why have his icon if he's not in the game.

Yup, Goroh is listed with the Falcon symbol, indicating that the Captain is in the game.

As for Sonic, what do you think are his moves? My best guesses from the video:

v Smash: Helicopter kick? ala Sheik
v attack (air): One-legged stomp
^ attack (air): Flip similar to Fox an Falco
Standard special: Spin dash (chargeable)
v Special: Weaker but faster Falcon Kick.
Final Smash: Super Sonic

He's fast and appears to have powerful attacks (we don't know the % on the opponents). If they're going to give Sonic a weakness, it'll be his recovery or his defense.

Dunther

10-10-2007, 06:41 PM

I always preferred playing Sonic Adventure 2 with the Japanese voices.

Presumably the existence of Sonic in Brawl means we can also look forward to some Sonic items ... shields, perhaps?

In the video I saw a...what is the esact name? that red things that blow you up...springs maybe?
Well there was one of these things on Delfinia...so yes, will be Sonic items.

Actually, I've never understood why people have been saying third-party characters won't be involved in the story. The whole SSB universe is basically one great big parody (as the Metal Gear codec clips have demonstrated) -- any character can be made to fit very easily. I also can't see why the mere fact of being third-party would make a difference. If the characters' original companies had some sort of problem with what Nintendo was doing with the characters in SSB, they wouldn't have licensed the characters to Nintendo in the first place.

I will prefer if the non-Nintendo characters would not fit in the story...a good idea is to make some sidequests with separate stories for Snake and Sonic...

Rambo

10-10-2007, 06:43 PM

Gee... i wonder what his final smash will be. :-P
And I'd like to see a ring battle replace coin battle. That would be interesting..

Ray Falling

10-10-2007, 06:55 PM

One thing I noticed from the videos so far is that smash attacks seem to be much more powerful now in terms of sending someone flying much easier, and jumps go much higher as well.

I do like how specials link with attacks much smoother and I'm sure everything is properly balanced and fine tuned.

Also, damage percentages seem to go up very fast?

Everything so far looks epic and smooth :) This will be one game to play for a loooong time.

Antipode

10-10-2007, 07:20 PM

It would be great if sonic's down b was the spindash...and if you press it over and over again it would charge up, just like the old sonics - releasing down shoots you away. THAT would be great.

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 07:20 PM

I couldn't help notice Sonic doing a sort of "Falcon Kick" like move in the movie. Could he be a replacement for your beloved falcon?
kek let the rumors flood

omg, don't say something like that. :(

It would be great if sonic's down b was the spindash...and if you press it over and over again it would charge up, just like the old sonics - releasing down shoots you away. THAT would be great.

Isn't that how it works?

Global-Trance

10-10-2007, 07:30 PM

That's probably what it would be. If you watch the video, Sonic does a sweep move much like Mario's down smash at some point so that's probably his down smash. If that's not Sonic's down B, then it'll be his down tilt A.

Theory of N

10-10-2007, 07:30 PM

In the video I saw a...what is the esact name? that red things that blow you up...springs maybe?
Well there was one of these things on Delfinia...so yes, will be Sonic items.

Not necessarily. It could be Sonic's up+B.

Antipode

10-10-2007, 07:57 PM

So now we'll have to see some sonic items. Personally I think it'd be great if they implemented the three shields - the water shield bounces you up to your previous jump height upon landing (and I guess protects you from squirtle/fludd's water attacks), the lightning shield gives you a third mid-air jump (and protects you from the electric attacks of pikachu, pichu if he's in it, and Ness if he's in it), and the fire shield allows you to attack and rocket quickly back and forth across the stage (and protects you from charizard, bowser and mario's fire attacks). Getting like 10-20% of damage should kill the shield.

Syka

10-10-2007, 08:26 PM

Another thing today's update shows is that there's probably at least two more franchises they haven't announced yet. Look at the filenames for the icons.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif - Smash Bros.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_02.gif - Donkey Kong
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_03.gif - Star Fox
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_04.gif - Kirby
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_05.gif - F-Zero
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_06.gif - Metroid
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_07.gif - Earthbound
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_08.gif - Pokemon
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_09.gif - Zelda
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_10.gif - Mario
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_11.gif - Yoshi
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_12.gif - Fire Emblem
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_13.gif - Unknown
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_14.gif - Ice Climbers
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_15.gif - Animal Crossing
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_16.gif - Wario
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_17.gif - Metal Gear
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_18.gif - Kid Icarus
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_19.gif - Unknown
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_20.gif - Sonic

Notice that 1-11 are from SSB, 12&14 are new to SSBM, and 15 onward are new to SSBB. Leads me to believe that 13 is Game & Watch, and 19 is a new franchise.

(Note: This idea has been previously posted on this thread by someone else, but with Sonic's inclusion, we now know that there's most likely another new franchise.)

Kiyosuki

10-10-2007, 08:28 PM

omg, don't say something like that. :(

I wouldn't worry. I find it hard to believe they'd put the Ice Climbers back in, and put Samurai Goroh in as an assist trophy, but not Captain Falcon.

Airwalker

10-10-2007, 08:53 PM

atmuh

10-10-2007, 09:15 PM

live and leeeeeeeeeeearn
hanging on the edge of tomorrooooooooow

Jaybell

10-10-2007, 09:21 PM

live and leeeeeeeeeeearn
hanging on the edge of tomorrooooooooow

dundunDOWdundunDOWdundunDOWdowDOWDOWWWWWWWWWWWW

As for the last "third-party" character, it's really either Cloud, one of the Belmonts, or Megaman. Although I am totally not ruling out Master Chief.

Sir_NutS

10-10-2007, 09:35 PM

Strike911

10-10-2007, 09:42 PM

It would be great if sonic's down b was the spindash...and if you press it over and over again it would charge up, just like the old sonics - releasing down shoots you away. THAT would be great.

Totally onboard! and if you keep pressing b and holding down it charges up just like in Sonic 2 and 3!! That would be sooo sweet!

@ JayBell

Master Chief wasn't in any Nintendo games. There's talk of Halo DS, but I doubt MC will be in Smash. Maybe the next version of Smash brothers though.

Only characters that have appeared on Nintendo consoles will be in Smash. Sakurai has said this officially.

Cloud technically was a summon on the GBA version of Kingdom Hearts... so... I guess technically it's possible but I doubt it, unless Nintendo wants all the old Square fans to hop on the bandwagon (which they would... Square has almost all RPG fans under their girly-anime-man thumbs)... seriously, Cloud+Snake+Sonic+Mario is a killer lineup, but I doubt it. I seriously, seriously, seriously, doubt it. Hardcore doubt it.

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/kh/khcom/screens/khcom009.jpg

The more I think about it, the more logical a choice is picking a character from a Capcom franchise... Belmont, Megaman, or Ryu. or even viewtiful joe. or A Resident Evil character. Capcom has a ton of great characters and to me is the best candidate for a 3rd party appearance in Smash since Nintendo and Capcom worked together on quite a few of the Zelda titles on GameBoy Color back in the day, and even some recent ones.

Capcom supports Nintendo with great software usually before other systems get stuff (Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7)so I think it's logical to make a guess that they'll be the next (and last?) character to appear, if Sakurai even lets one more 3rd party character in.... he said 2 or 3, remember?

Hum4n After All

10-10-2007, 09:46 PM

Mother of god on earth and in heaven at the exact same time.
This is a big "In yo face!" to all those who doubted it.

Neonlare

10-10-2007, 09:47 PM

Belmonts for Brawl next.

megadave

10-10-2007, 09:49 PM

Belmonts for Brawl next.

Fine with me. Put the whole fuggin N team on there.

Sir_NutS

10-10-2007, 09:57 PM

Fine with me. Put the whole fuggin N team on there.

I can even see an event match for that.

The Author

10-10-2007, 10:09 PM

I can even see an event match for that.

Event 87, Geeks who live in the past!!!

supremespleen

10-10-2007, 10:20 PM

Cloud would be dumb. Master Chief would be hilariously awesome but simultaneously impossible.
My guess is Simon or Soma or something.

JackKieser

10-10-2007, 10:21 PM

I really hope they bring those back; honestly, the Event Matches were some of the only times I didn't play with Link, cause I just didn't have the motivation. And thanks to that, I can (kind of) use more than one person. Of course, I have PLENTY of motivation to play multiple peoples in Brawl... but the fact still stands.

--Jack Kieser

Zup

10-10-2007, 10:39 PM

I still say that the most likely Square character would be Sora. Not that I want him, but he's much more likely than Cloud. Crono is too old school; I'm sure Square wants to promote current games, and Sora fits the bill all too well.

Personally, I want that number 19 to be Olimar's symbol; I think he'd be awesome.

Or, in my wonderful dreams...

HOLD IT! Phoenix Wright approaches!

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 10:53 PM

Beaumonts for Brawl next.

fixed

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7362/castlevaniabeaumontzt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Antipode

10-10-2007, 10:55 PM

Cloud would be dumb. Master Chief would be hilariously awesome but simultaneously impossible.
My guess is Simon or Soma or something.

Can't deny it would be pretty great to have a fight between mario, sonic, mc and snake.

Strike911

10-10-2007, 11:14 PM

Someone mentioned the N team...

Seriously... Megaman, Simon, and captain N. That's all we need. That's it. Already have Pit. We're 1/4th of the way there! lol.

haha, yeah, after thinking about it, my money is on MegaMan's Brawl appearance.

so wait, did Captain N show up anywhere outside of North America? Does Japan even know about him?

edit:
Captain N for Brawl!

Bigfoot

10-10-2007, 11:28 PM

I was thinking maybe Aeris could be in Brawl, but she died.

TSU

10-11-2007, 12:02 AM

Cloud!?

It's all about BLACK MAGE.

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/thumb/1/18/M3on3-blackmage.png/120px-M3on3-blackmage.png

Triad Orion

10-11-2007, 12:12 AM

Makai

10-11-2007, 12:23 AM

How long is Sakurai going to continue updating the site? I hope he doesn't keep going all the way through the new January 24th release date.

Airwalker

10-11-2007, 12:43 AM

Hey Guys! I got some amazing news that will rock your socks off! We have practically an official confirmation of a new character in Brawl!

If you look at the closely at the newest update... you can see this image near the bottom of the page.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/sonic/sonic_071010d-l.jpg

Now, if you use Photoshop on that blob in the bottom right corner. You'll need to sharpen, apply Tiles, blur it a little, zoom in, liquify around the top of the blob, and use the splatter filter, you can almost make it out...

http://www.file.airwalking.com/marCONFIRMED.jpg

Yes, do you see what I see? It's official, guys. Mario is in Smash Brother Brawl! Either that or maybe I am seeing Megaman. It's a little hard to tell, but I think we can say it's official.

:tomatoface:

Geoffrey Taucer

10-11-2007, 12:50 AM

Fuck the Belmonts.

Fuck Megaman.

AND ESPECIALLY FUCK CLOUD.

I wanna see Crono.

Linkjing Donuts

10-11-2007, 12:53 AM

NiGHTS for brawl

Mastertoku

10-11-2007, 01:01 AM

They took it down on the Japan site...
...that would be because it is the reported American launch date.

Mastertoku

10-11-2007, 01:12 AM

Ah. Apologies.

Anyhow, this is just a thought - a highly unlikely one - but were they to include more than one Sonic character, I'd welcome E-102 Gamma.

Also, Mario and Sonic co-op is going to be beautiful. Like a gaming spiritual experience.

EDIT: Eh?! Where'd the post go?

Kiyosuki

10-11-2007, 01:12 AM

Someone said it earlier, but if Mega Man (the Classic version) makes it in, Brawl is basically complete. Assuming Falcon makes his return, which frankly I don't see why he wouldn't, as F-Zero's still really popular, you can't get much more awesome than Mega Man. Someone did bring up the idea of a Belmont, which I would fully support as well. Now, if Mega Man and a Belmont (probably Simon) joined in, then it would be hands down the most awesome game on the Wii.

I know its improbable (I'll never say impossible with this game at this point though.) but another nostalgia bomb-shell along with those guys would be Ryu Hayabusa. He's synonymous with X-Box now but come on...who's memory of the 8 to 16 bit era doesn't have the old Ninja Gaiden games highly regarded?

And Vic Viper as an assist trophy.

The Pezman

10-11-2007, 01:22 AM

I know I won't be getting a Wii, but my friend, who's got on, will definitely get Brawl and I may be able to play it.

But I want to go toe to toe against all of you at MAGfest and get my ass roundly kicked.

Hum4n After All

10-11-2007, 01:25 AM

How long is Sakurai going to continue updating the site? I hope he doesn't keep going all the way through the new January 24th release date.

Que que?!
What are chu talking about?

Antipode

10-11-2007, 01:35 AM

That's the new japan release date. So yeah, what are you talkin' about? (Unless you live in Japan)

Airwalker

10-11-2007, 01:43 AM

Yeah, there is no word on America's release date yet. I believe we were already getting it weeks before Japan anyway.

But I couldn't conceive anything that would affect Japan's release yet leave America's unscathed when the game is originally made in Japan.

!Nekko!

10-11-2007, 01:47 AM

http://www.file.airwalking.com/marCONFIRMED.jpg

I think I see a Tetris piece in that picture. Fuck Sonic - Tetris is a new playble character!

Bigfoot

10-11-2007, 01:53 AM

I see Missingno.

The Author

10-11-2007, 01:55 AM

I see Missingno.

I see Truman.

oh wait

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/The-Truman-Show-Poster-C10314403.jpeg

Moseph

10-11-2007, 02:30 AM

The more I think about it, the more logical a choice is picking a character from a Capcom franchise... Belmont, Megaman, or Ryu. or even viewtiful joe. or A Resident Evil character. Capcom has a ton of great characters and to me is the best candidate for a 3rd party appearance in Smash since Nintendo and Capcom worked together on quite a few of the Zelda titles on GameBoy Color back in the day, and even some recent ones.

Capcom supports Nintendo with great software usually before other systems get stuff (Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7)so I think it's logical to make a guess that they'll be the next (and last?) character to appear, if Sakurai even lets one more 3rd party character in.... he said 2 or 3, remember?

Pursuing the line of reasoning that says companies with close relationships to Nintendo are more likely ...

It's possible we'll see a Hudson Soft character -- probably would be Bomberman. Hudson's in charge of the Mario Party Games, so the background is there.

Or Namco. They did stuff with Star Fox and the Mario Kart arcade game -- which had Pac-Man as a playable character. I think he'd be the most likely Namco character, although I can't imagine his special moves being very interesting.

Personally, I want to see classic Mega Man. Although I'd settle for Chun-Li, too. It would be fun to see a character from a traditional fighting game in SSB.

Theory of N

10-11-2007, 02:42 AM

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b2/Slowpoke.gif
Slowpoke for Brawl.

Flaming Wuzzle

10-11-2007, 03:15 AM

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b2/Slowpoke.gif
Slowpoke for Melee.
Fixed that for you.

Rambo

10-11-2007, 03:50 AM

fixed

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7362/castlevaniabeaumontzt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wtf? is that real?
blasphemy

linkspast

10-11-2007, 04:08 AM

Sonic is here.... wow, I was hoping that sonic was not going to be in brawl. Not sure why. mostly cause all his recent games suck.... but after seeing his intro video... I am excited to play as him.

Rambo

10-11-2007, 04:45 AM

Sonic is here.... wow, I was hoping that sonic was not going to be in brawl. Not sure why. mostly cause all his recent games suck.... but after seeing his intro video... I am excited to play as him.

My sentiments were exactly that. He looks really well integrated. I am thoroughly please.. and even stoked now.

Fenrir

10-11-2007, 04:58 AM

which had Pac-Man as a playable character. I think he'd be the most likely Namco character

This is quite possibly the stupidest idea in the entire thread.

Ferret

10-11-2007, 05:09 AM

EVERYONE KNOWS, and I do mean EVERYONE, that the first Namco character to grace a smash brothers title will most likely be one from the Tales series. Or, you know, not, but given that I'm not that familiar with Namco characters to begin with I guess it's up to the execs to decide.

Sure there's stuff the fans want to see but there are also things that the game developers want to put into the game which might not make it because of time constraints or licensing issues. The point here is that just because you say it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

At least this time around Sonic isn't an April Fool's Day joke. And like all the other scoring and soundtrack stuff, Live and Learn seems to have gotten a nice update, too. I wonder if there's a full version included in the game or if what we heard is the extent of the vocals.

(Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the Vic Viper as an assist trophy, but that's Konami and not Namco, though they both do have some decent stuff going on for them. Just at the moment I can't think of what it could be.)

Broken

10-11-2007, 05:16 AM

This is quite possibly the stupidest idea in the entire thread.

Now, now, I'm sure he's not the first person who's thought of this. I don't belive Pac-Man is the most likely Namco character to be included, but I'm certainly not going to rule his appearance out of the game.

Ralphis

10-11-2007, 05:18 AM

And like all the other scoring and soundtrack stuff, Live and Learn seems to have gotten a nice update, too. I wonder if there's a full version included in the game or if what we heard is the extent of the vocals.

I imagine it was cut up specifically for the trailer

atmuh

10-11-2007, 05:26 AM

live and leeeearn
if you beg or if you borroooooooooooow
live and leeeearn
you may never find your waaaaaaaaay

WOOOOOOooooooOOOoooyeah

I-n-j-i-n

10-11-2007, 05:32 AM

EVERYONE KNOWS, and I do mean EVERYONE, that the first Namco character to grace a smash brothers title will most likely be one from the Tales series. Or, you know, not, but given that I'm not that familiar with Namco characters to begin with I guess it's up to the execs to decide.

Um. No. Tales characters are okay, but they are far from being iconic Namco characters. There's about a hundred Namco characters they can come across before even considering Tales ones, though I bet they would put in the JRPG ones in there anyway.

(Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the Vic Viper as an assist trophy, but that's Konami and not Namco, though they both do have some decent stuff going on for them. Just at the moment I can't think of what it could be.)

Are you kidding me?

Ever heard of the Prince of the Cosmos? PAC-MAN??? Just about any Soul Calibur characters ever? Tekken characters (just about all those mental cases could fit into an SSB game easily). As for JRPG types, I would think Xenosaga/Xenogears characters should take precedence.

And Konami? Wow, what is this, 'bash all 3rd parties' night?

Suikoden characters alone could fill up a SSB lineup ten times. And I don't even need to get into details about Castlevania.

Tenucha

10-11-2007, 05:36 AM

Live and Learn sounded exactly the same from whichever Sonic Adventure title it came from... o_0

His appearance didn't surprise me. The video was nice too! He looks solid as a fighter from what they showed... I wouldn't be surprised if Tails and Knuckles were assists or came into help Sonic with special attacks.
Atleast the first Mario/Sonic game now, as we know, is destined to be epic! The Olympics title... not entirly sure about.

atmuh

10-11-2007, 05:38 AM

anyone who buys that olympic garbage is an extremely retarded fanboy

eternal Zero

10-11-2007, 05:42 AM

I'm just happy they're using the SA2 Sonic. That and I enjoy Live and Learn. I thought I'd have an easy time transitioning and just keeping my main, but there's just so much I want to try now that I doubt I'll keep the same characters under my belt.

Paratha

10-11-2007, 05:44 AM

NAMCO character?

Ok, KING OF ALL COSMOS in Brawl.

Moseph

10-11-2007, 05:54 AM

which had Pac-Man as a playable character. I assume he'd be the most likely Namco character because I'm too lazy to research what other games Namco has made.
..... fixed

friendlyHunter

10-11-2007, 06:01 AM

After seeing what they've done with Sonic, I have a little more faith that Brawl's suited Samus too will be true to her origins - a fast agile bounty hunter who shoots freaking everything. Even when Sonic is stationary, it seems he's using his amazing speed to kick ass. Let's hope Samus too makes amazing use her main strength (cool ranged weaponry), even when she's not using ranged attacks. Zero Suit Samus' down smash (with the stun gun) also gives me some hope that suited Samus will use her beam in creative ways like that. And the re-arrangement of Mario's moves (keeping the Smash nostalgia of the "Mario Tornado" whist giving him another Special move that's actually from a Mario game), that gives me hope that Samus' moves will too be rearranged for the better. But I don't need any more hope; I need a Samus moves update. Or a video where she actually does some of her moves. Why won't they show us her moves?! Show me your moves!!! SHOW ME YOUR B- ...I mean YOUR MOVES!!!!

Remember way back when the best update so far was the fact that Samus' suit was really shiny? Now we've got interesting characters like the Pokemon Trainer and Diddy, assist trophies up the wazoo... the updates can only get better, right? And by "better", I mean "show me your moves". They've been deliberately leaving one move out of every Special Moves update - I know what update I'M eagerly waiting for:

"It seems I've been forgetting to tell you about a lot of moves here and there. But here they all are now! Th- there are too many moves to count, how will I ever count them?!

But enough about moves - we are showing here, for the first time in video game history, a screenshot of Samus's Shoosh-shoosh-shoosh-shoosh-shoosh!

Oh sorry, Snake was using his flying reconnaissance camera, the Cypher, to recover. Where was I? Oh yes, you can see a screenshot of Samus' moves. But you've already seen this move, ha ha! It's the regular areal forwards move from Smash Bros., but the fire is a different color?! Ooooh. It’s so dynamic! But that is all I will ever show you of Samus' moves, you will have to buy the game! By the way, the release date for Canada and all the American states that are bordering Canada is April 24, 2008."

Dang it.

Well, here's hoping Megaman is in there. I think we all saw Sonic coming a mile away - Megaman (or Simon, or any other thrid-party character for that matter) would be the first REAL shocker, in terms of playable characters. (well, besides Snake...)

Triad Orion

10-11-2007, 06:34 AM

NAMCO character?

Ok, KING OF ALL COSMOS in Brawl.

"We approve of this message, dull witted Prince."

Had to be said. Sorry. XD

Brushfire

10-11-2007, 06:51 AM

OH

MY

GOD!!

I didn't think it would happen but here it is. *sniff* I'm so happy I could cry....

Takashi

10-11-2007, 06:58 AM

First off WHO STARTED THE CLOUD CRAP...if cloud's in brawl I will personally boycott nintendo forever..dead serious I'll even go as far as tossing my DS in the ocean if cloud is in brawl

There should only be 2..TWO Square-Enix characters to even be considered in Brawl
Geno and Mallow
no Cloud No Squall No Zidane we dont need FF characters in Brawl FF fans already had a fighting game with there beloved franchise (Ergeiz anyone?)

Geno and Mallow on the other hand would fit >.> hell I've been bitching that Geno should be in Smash Bros since the first one

Second off to the person who said King of all Cosmos in Brawl..screw that I say a Katamari Damacy Stage

remember when you lost in We Love Katamari? hell yeah King in the background shooting EYE BEAMS at you while talking of pompadors and why people love the great KING OF ALL COSMOS (and who doesnt by the way?) all the while randomly a Katamari rolls by

by the way Dashing Prince for Brawl!!

JackKieser

10-11-2007, 07:06 AM

"KEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Pretty basic moveset, but I think the fact that you can chain dashes together (especially in the air) means Sonic will be crazy maneuverable.

And the Spring Jump is nice. I didn't expect the spring to stay on the ground, but that's cool.

All in all, I think a good moveset. Of course, we'll have to use it to be sure, but from the looks of it, it's simple and versatile. A+.

--Jack Kieser

Rambo

10-11-2007, 07:09 AM

his final jump is freakin massive.
Now if you had a platform overhead... and there was something on it causing damage.. and Sonic used Up B... would he fall back onto his spring and be shot back into it continuously? lawlipop

Takashi

10-11-2007, 07:11 AM

...ahh Sonic Nostalgia porn

gotta love it

Kiyosuki

10-11-2007, 07:16 AM

The original Sonic the Hedgehog game used only one button. I think its simple yet exhilarating play was its virtue.

And given that this game’s controls are also simple, I think it personifies his distinct characteristics.

Thats awesome. I'm totally digging the mentality they have with him in this, keeping him simple. Although I fear his speed combined with his ease of play is gearing up to make him destined to just become a dominating force in this game.

Strike911

10-11-2007, 07:31 AM

Love it.

and the fact that the spring stays on the ground is awesome...

I can imagine some wicked team uses for that.

DuskyFerret

10-11-2007, 07:49 AM

Going back to new characters, seriously Cloud and Master Chief, that's just stupid. Michael Jordan is way more likely to appear in Brawl than those two, at least he featured in his own Nintendo game, and it wasn't a sport game either.
I think judging by Nintendo's past moves, I don't think they're gonna go for a really obvious character, I reckon they're gonna pick one from out of the blue that's gonna make people go WHAAA!? Say....something like Prehistoric Man? Now, that would top all others.

And what I'm gonna say next is probably gonna make me cop a lot of flame:
First of all, what's all the hype about Captain Falcon? He's practically in for Brawl, no question about it so stop freakin asking for the update already. Some people already said they wanted to save some excitement for the release, so maybe that's all their doing, building some tension.

Secondly Sonic will probably be as good as any other character. Sure he's fast and he can link his moves well but who actually says his moves are gonna have much of an impact if they can be linked so easily? Judging by his speed and Smash's past qualities of fast characters, he'll probably get knocked around quite a bit if someone lands a blow. And his spring jump? Who says it's gonna be as fast as Game and Watch's recovery? It might take him a while to actually pull out the spring and jump on it and whatnot? Plus, he looks pretty vulnerable to a down smash while he's sailing upwards. Just putting it all out there, now be nice won't you?:-P

Binjovi

10-11-2007, 07:53 AM

It's really difficult to tell from the videos, but it looks like you'll actually be able to do attacks after using your up special move. Jumping is obviously still out of the question. In the Sonic video, right after it shows Sonic balancing on the edge, it cuts to him, Donkey, Pit, and Mario duking it out on the Skyworld stage. Immediately after the scene changes, Sonic uses the spring jump up between Donkey and Pit, then proceeds to do an upwards corkscrew kick followed by the "Falcon Kick" into Donkey. Does this mean we'll be able to protect ourselves after using up specials? Or did Sonic just get hit on his way up, canceling his spring jump?

Also, Link's up special looks really cool, and I didn't think the animation for the warp star item could get any smoother/nicer looking.

TheCatPhysician

10-11-2007, 07:57 AM

Love it.

and the fact that the spring stays on the ground is awesome...

I can imagine some wicked team uses for that.

ohgod i can't wait for this game

I-n-j-i-n

10-11-2007, 08:00 AM

Actually Master Chief isn't such a far stretch. Nobody thought it'd happen with DOA4 either but it sorta/kinda happened with that female Spartan. I think it'd be hilarious if Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue makes it though. But that could be a pretty good addition too since he has a lot of nice and good martial arts move that could fit into any SSB scenario.

And Cloud definitely would make a huge entrance, and I think anything is possible after Kingdom Hearts. But I still don't think Square is all that eager for Nintendo cooperation other than releasing some well-selling remakes and spinoffs like they have been.

I wish they go totally crazy and put in some anime character or something.

Kiyosuki

10-11-2007, 08:12 AM

Well Cloud is more synonymous with Sony than any other FF lead I think, but then again years ago I would have said that Solid Snake is more synomyous with Sony than anything too and yet here we are with Snake breaking Mario necks. I mean yeah, there was the classic Metal Gear game but Snake's true origins were really the MSX. Then there's Twin Snakes as a technicality, but here we are with the Metal Gear references in SSBB already showing things like an MGS4 song, and Metal Gear Ray that directly point to games that only appear on a Sony console. So really at this point anything goes, its made it very exciting.

Still though...at least Snake does have Twin Snakes and Metal Gear. Cloud would have the most techicality based appearance on a Nintendo console (Chain of Memories) that it'd almost seem a little cheap to me. I mean if it happened of course there'd be some insanity but it still seems like more of a stretch than anything else.

The problem with FF is that there's no real eternal, overall "representing character" aside from commonly seen jobs, and even the Cids are all different.

Maybe though...-if- we have to have an FF character in there, how about the Light Warriors as a character? Like...literally a transforming character where you can switch between 4-6 of the jobs, all with distinct strengths and weaknesses? Or maybe like how they're doing it in that FF fighting game, by making the Warrior of Light an algamation of everything in FF1? Do a switch move to change the moveset to Fighter Mode, Thief Mode, Black Mage Mode etc.

Or maybe have the new Tactics Advance2 lead with a similar ability. I could certainly see that. I think no matter what including the series' trademark alternate jobs in some way would be essential, nothing would really represent the series better than that. Theoretically.

Takashi

10-11-2007, 10:38 AM

Actually Master Chief isn't such a far stretch. Nobody thought it'd happen with DOA4 either but it sorta/kinda happened with that female Spartan. I think it'd be hilarious if Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue makes it though. But that could be a pretty good addition too since he has a lot of nice and good martial arts move that could fit into any SSB scenario.

Why it is a far stretch

1. DOA4 and Halo have the simularties of both appearing on XBOX and XBOX360 Master Chief has never nor will ever appear on nintendo

2. Halo isnt exactly very well recieved in Japan

3. Neither is XBOX for that matter

4. That would just be..weird

The Author

10-11-2007, 11:11 AM

The rules for a character:

Must have appeared on a Nintendo Console.

Why don't you try to get some obscure yet valid characters.

Like the dude from Crysalis.

Zrexe

10-11-2007, 11:36 AM

The problem with FF is that there's no real eternal, overall "representing character" aside from commonly seen jobs, and even the Cids are all different.

Chocoboes!

friendlyHunter

10-11-2007, 01:22 PM

Moogles! ^_^

which had Pac-Man as a playable character. I think he'd be the most likely Namco character

A Mario-themed game called "Super [insert word here] Bros." with a playble Pac-man character? That would surely be the be the greatest game ever conceived, if someone ever made a silly Flash game like that I would be sure to play it!

<_<

>_>

SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION! Play this game, it's amazing! And "Twins with Stealth" is even better apparently.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/400449
http://friendlywarlord.newgrounds.com/

Kiyosuki

10-11-2007, 01:40 PM

I still hope when Captain Falcon is finally revealed that his Final Smash will look something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw

Sir_NutS

10-11-2007, 01:51 PM

I don't want this game.

I need this game.

Gerbah

10-11-2007, 02:08 PM

Ah, come on? All this Namco character speculation and not one person thought of Klonoa? He seems like the perfect choice to me, and not just because he's basically my all-time favorite character (but it helps). He'd be much more interesting than Pac-man, and he still has Pac-man on his hat! Plus he was at least referenced in the Tales series (you could get a Klonoa outfit for Presea in Tales of Symphonia), and it would give them just cause to make another Klonoa game and put it on the Wii (aside from that, Klonoa games recently have all been on the GBA).

But, it's still quite unlikely. If he's announced, I would be extremely surprised (but also extremely happy).

Aninymouse

10-11-2007, 02:13 PM

What does he do? I know he has big ears and, uh... jumps. Maybe something that has to do with a ring? Is that right?

Gerbah

10-11-2007, 02:19 PM

What does he do? I know he has big ears and, uh... jumps. Maybe something that has to do with a ring? Is that right?
Yeah, basically that ring he used was his attack, he used it to inflate enemies and chuck them, or as a double-jump. Plus, those big-ears provided a bit of stall time in mid-air!

Though I suppose you could argue he does more than that, from what I've seen of his abilities in Namco x Capcom.

Probably not providing a great deal of insight on the character, but the games were supposed to be simple to control but still have a lot of great puzzles to them. Plus, Klonoa has his own language, is that worth something?

Fenrir

10-11-2007, 02:20 PM

I think we're losing touch with what would be a good character, versus a good item/level mechanic/etc.

Pac-man would be a good item. Not a good character.

As for namco, KOS-MOS came awfully close to being in Soul Calibur 2 as a cameo character, so I wouldn't discount her (even though it's super unlikely)

MasterSenshi

10-11-2007, 02:33 PM

These last two days have been beyond amazing. Sonic is in! This is a complete dream come true! They can delay it 3 months now and I won't care; I'll just play Mario Galaxy, Metriod and whatever else I can handle between classes and work.

I don't even care about Ness being likely removed now. This is amazing!!!!!

Sakurai needs to be moved up a notch in the echelon of game designers. If this works out, I'll have him up there with sakaguchi-san and a few of my other fave producers. :-P

MasterSenshi

10-11-2007, 02:38 PM

I remember reading on Smashboards about a Halo vs. Smash sales comparison, with people thinking Halo 3 would outsell Smash 3. Halo has sold a ton lately, and I was pretty disposed to the Halo side, even after reading that the prior two iterations had Smash sell more copies.

I think that, regardless of the reason, Smash is going to sell more now. Snake and Sonic... I think a lot of older gamers and hardcore gamers will pick it up just to see if Sonic can beat the crap out of Mario.

Isn't that what we always argued about during the Genesis/SNES era? :)

If they add Dr. Robotnik in, we can see which evil boss is better too. 8-) This is too sweet!

Eulogic

10-11-2007, 04:33 PM

There should only be 2..TWO Square-Enix characters to even be considered in Brawl

Buckethead Lilty and Kefka

Ralphis

10-11-2007, 04:34 PM

So it's official, the game is delayed until February 10th in the US. Curse you Nintendo!

Source: http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/10/11/smash-brothers-wii-delayed-until-febrary-in-the-us/#respond

Bigfoot

10-11-2007, 04:36 PM

Most depressing delay, ever.

megadave

10-11-2007, 04:43 PM

That's lame and weak. Damn. Well, we still have Mario Galaxy and some pretty sweet-looking third party games. And Halloween is this month too! Just trying to look on the bright side. Oh, who am I kidding? This sucks.

Airwalker

10-11-2007, 04:48 PM

Utterly devastating.

Ah well, I will be playing Mario Galaxy as well. I may even pick up that Mario Sonic olympic game to get my Sonic vs. Mario groove on.

BardicKnowledge

10-11-2007, 04:52 PM

This is even worse than when Metroid got delayed. Damn you, Nintendo for getting my hopes up (even though I'm still spending a mint on you this Christmas).

Bigfoot

10-11-2007, 05:20 PM

Here's some screens of gameplay/charcter select/map select.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577p1.html

!Nekko!

10-11-2007, 05:33 PM

Well. At least it's not being released right before my finals.

linkspast

10-11-2007, 05:35 PM

Yeha I dont know about that. I mean why would MTV know?
Whatever just gives me more time to find a wii.

Ray Falling

10-11-2007, 05:42 PM

On a side note: in the other clip from the Sonic update; is that Magmoor caverns (Metroid Prime)? The place where Wario is standing next to a Torchic?

It looks like the monitor station room, right before you enter the ice lands (good times :D )

Wipomatic

10-11-2007, 05:55 PM

Well, being in the UK means this will probably push it's release here to 2009 or something. Wooo :-(

Ralphis

10-11-2007, 05:57 PM

Yeha I dont know about that. I mean why would MTV know?
Whatever just gives me more time to find a wii.

The MTV Multiplayer blog is almost always on the ball with fresh information. Although by now this info is out all over all the big game sites now as well

shikigami

10-11-2007, 06:05 PM

i believe that loud sound i heard earlier was millions of gamers becoming flaccid.

Sir_NutS

10-11-2007, 06:38 PM

This is the most terrible birthday gift nintendo, up yours!

Sgwigly

10-11-2007, 06:45 PM

Does this mean we'll get 60 more updates we wouldn't have gotten otherwise?

Scufo

10-11-2007, 06:51 PM

Ugh. After they made the Dec. 3 date sound so certain, too. I wonder if Sakurai is gonna say anything or just quietly put the new date up.

Drack

10-11-2007, 07:04 PM

Truely terrible news.

Looks like I'm importing the Japanese version.

Ralphis

10-11-2007, 07:16 PM

The time it takes to get from Japan to your place you might as well just wait the extra week

Eulogic

10-11-2007, 07:18 PM

http://wii.ign.com/articles/826/826602p1.html

"we've been told that the customization on any of the styles is endless, actually letting you move any button to any position on any control type."

"Other attacks we've seen already include a floating Metroid that sucks onto battlers, a massive attack of multiple 2D Advance Wars sprites, various Pokemon, a dashing Drill Dozer attack, the Excite Bike attack (similar to the Advance Wars move), and then of course the fire flower, baseball bat, beam sword, and the like."

"Since each character can also switch colors pre-fight, Nintendo took the opportunity to seamlessly include Dark Link as one of the character options."

"Sonic is also an interesting fighter, as he has a ton of seeking moves. A regular special attack sends him spinning into the air at what seems to be the nearest character, delivering a combo of hits in the process."

And some other stuff.

Airwalker

10-11-2007, 07:49 PM

Advance Wars sprite assist trophy! I am complete! I would just die if Andy, Sami or Nell were playables.

Thalzon

10-11-2007, 08:07 PM

Drill Dozer's an assist trophy only? Dammit.

Cecilff2

10-11-2007, 08:14 PM

So if you check IGN, they've got some videos up of gameplay and such. There is a norfair stage for metroid I noticed. That'll probably be a fairly soon future update.

Hector

10-11-2007, 08:31 PM

SirChadlyOC

10-11-2007, 08:36 PM

A serious off-topic debate:

Which delay is worse:
Twilight Princess (twice, right?)
vs.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl

I think I vote SSBB because of all the hype and the slow trickle of news. I think about SSBB at least twice a day now. With TP, I'd forget every once in a while how much I wished I could play it.

Airwalker

10-11-2007, 08:57 PM

This explains why news of Sonic was released recently. It's a bit hard to be truly angry or disappointed about a delay when Sonic is still in your mind.

Unless of course you're adept at being bi-polar.

I'll bet you anything they only announced Sonic this early and put him in the demo to sweeten the crowd back up after the devastating loss of 2 critical Brawling months.

megadave

10-11-2007, 09:20 PM

I'm not mad about this because of not being able to play the game until next year. I'm mad because Nintendo lied about the release date, like they do for every major game they put out. Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope galaxy hits at the right time.

10-11-2007, 09:20 PM

The delay hurts a lot. I was all ready to bust up foos at Magfest too. :-(

I also agree that Sami as a playable smash character would be amazingly fantastic.

KakTheInfected

10-11-2007, 09:26 PM

Delay sucks but over 2 months more of polish on this game? I'm not complaining.

Antipode

10-11-2007, 09:32 PM

Orrrrr maybe it's already done and they're just trying to give mario galaxy some space (EDIT: No pun intended). That seems a lot more likely.

dsx100

10-11-2007, 09:41 PM

Man this game looks amazing. There are a lot of cool videos at IGN and 1UP of in-game footage. Man I wish I could play it. This makes me even more pissed off that it got delayed. Oh well, it'll come out when its ready. I'm just hoping it won't get delayed agian to like Holiday 2008. That would seriously suck.

Kureejii Lea

10-11-2007, 09:43 PM

http://wiiinsider.de/news_247696.php
Have these been posted yet? I couldn't get the IGN stuff to load, so I dunno if it's the same. Looks like the character-specific intros are definately back.

Dhsu

10-11-2007, 09:53 PM

ZOMG SUPER SONIC

But it didn't look like he picked up a Smash Ball or anything. Does you have to activate it by collecting 50 rings and pressing up while jumping? :P

Sir_NutS

10-11-2007, 10:10 PM

The delay kinda saddens me but at the same time:

1.-The more time they take the more polished the game will be, and you know that when nintendo takes its time to polish stuff up, it delivers.
2.-Gives me more time as well to get out of some debts and buy mi Wii after christmas. Otherwise I would have been in a very tight budget XD

supremespleen

10-11-2007, 10:16 PM

http://wiiinsider.de/news_247696.php
Have these been posted yet? I couldn't get the IGN stuff to load, so I dunno if it's the same. Looks like the character-specific intros are definately back.So glad. That was my favorite part of SSB that didn't make it to SSBM.

edit: HOLY CRAP ADVANCE WARS ASSIST AWESOME

!Nekko!

10-11-2007, 10:31 PM

It would be great if Nintendo would have a demo of Brawl, but then I remembered that the Wii only the has 512MB storage. Fuckers.

Strike911

10-11-2007, 10:51 PM

DELAY?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo!

TheCatPhysician

10-11-2007, 11:16 PM

Dunther

10-12-2007, 12:47 AM

dundunDOWdundunDOWdundunDOWdowDOWDOWWWWWWWWWWWW

As for the last "third-party" character, it's really either Cloud, one of the Belmonts, or Megaman. Although I am totally not ruling out Master Chief.
Cloud would be dumb. Master Chief would be hilariously awesome but simultaneously impossible.
My guess is Simon or Soma or something.

A friend of mine thinked how can be Master Chief in Brawl...with all the moves and all.

NiGHTS for brawl

That's a good and not impossibile idea.

Advance Wars sprite assist trophy! I am complete! I would just die if Andy, Sami or Nell were playables.

Yeah, me too...I love the Advance Wars style...

And...I really don't care of the delay....if this game can be did better I'll wait more.

anclunn

10-12-2007, 12:58 AM

Captain N?

Lotd2242

10-12-2007, 01:05 AM

Goku FTW.

10char

friendlyHunter

10-12-2007, 01:26 AM

http://wii.ign.com/articles/826/826602p1.html

"we've been told that the customization on any of the styles is endless, actually letting you move any button to any position on any control type."

Yay!
And the guy who wrote that first article doesn't know what the word "random" means, yet uses it relentlessly.

"There were multiple times within the fight where we got our butts kicked simply because we were captivated by nostalgia; priceless."

Haha!

Brushfire

10-12-2007, 01:27 AM

I think Smash could use a little Bionic Commando.

Or the guy from Clash at Demonhead, if anybody ever played that.

TheCatPhysician

10-12-2007, 01:28 AM

"A friend of mine thinked how can be Master Chief in Brawl...with all the moves and all."

what.

Hum4n After All

10-12-2007, 01:38 AM

D:

THEY CHANGED THE ANNOUNCER GUY!

man, i suddenly miss his voice, even though i can just turn on melee to hear it. but seriously, hearing someone else's voice saying "free for all!" made me realize how big a part of smash brothers that guy was. he is the SMASH BROTHERS VOICE. where'd he go?!

They did?
How do ya know?
And the delay is fucking gay!
Fuck you Nintendo!
FUCK j00z!
Better put Isaac in it because of this damn delay.

Kiyosuki

10-12-2007, 01:41 AM

I am so glad to see that individual character intros are back for sure.

Theory of N

10-12-2007, 01:41 AM

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ATX4J79PL._AA257_.jpg
Brian for Brawl.

Kiyosuki

10-12-2007, 01:55 AM

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ATX4J79PL._AA257_.jpg
Brian for Brawl.

He has to have out of date N64 graphics.

The Author

10-12-2007, 02:13 AM

And BTW, for those who want Squall or Master Chief in Brawl, I say:

GENERAL CUSTARD.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/S_CustersRevenge_1.png/252px-S_CustersRevenge_1.png

Geoffrey Taucer

10-12-2007, 02:15 AM

God damnit. The IGN people got a chance to play it, and of the three reviewers, NONE BOTHERED TO FIND OUT WHETHER WAVEDASHING STILL WORKS.

TheCatPhysician

10-12-2007, 02:31 AM

God damnit. The IGN people got a chance to play it, and of the three reviewers, NONE BOTHERED TO FIND OUT WHETHER WAVEDASHING STILL WORKS.

i know craploads of competitive smashers are going to E for All so we'll definitely know all kinds of stuff in a week or whenever that thing happens.

Linkjing Donuts

10-12-2007, 03:05 AM

wow, doesn't look like there will as many characters as we hoped for. i count about 30.

Airwalker

10-12-2007, 03:30 AM

wow, doesn't look like there will as many characters as we hoped for. i count about 30.

Umm, where were they listed? The current character selection screen is only for the demo as far as we know or the blocks may shrink as new characters are added, if you were just guessing how many more blocks they could fit in there of the same size.

FlagshipAmadeus

10-12-2007, 04:04 AM

And BTW, for those who want Squall or Master Chief in Brawl, I say:

GENERAL CUSTARD.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/S_CustersRevenge_1.png/252px-S_CustersRevenge_1.png

YEAHHHH CUSTER'S REVENGGGGGE

Eulogic

10-12-2007, 04:05 AM

A few things:

Apparently, Little Mac is an assist trophy.

Apparently, ZZS's final smash turns her back into regular Samus.

Samus uses super missiles instead of regular missiles.

Mario has a Luigi-colored costume (but also still has the Wario one). FLUDD appears to stay around as part of his appearance after he uses it.

The stage below throne room (after it falls through) is some sort of hell looking level.

That painty looking boxart (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/SSBB_Cover.jpg) is real and is on press.nintendo.com.

There is a new spiky ball that grows bigger, lightsabres are blue and look even more like lightsabres now, and there is a new exploding "smart bomb," which looks like a round thing with a B on it. Anyone know what game this is from?

Antipode

10-12-2007, 04:19 AM

Starfox 64?

Linkjing Donuts

10-12-2007, 04:20 AM

Linkjing Donuts

10-12-2007, 04:23 AM

Umm, where were they listed? The current character selection screen is only for the demo as far as we know or the blocks may shrink as new characters are added, if you were just guessing how many more blocks they could fit in there of the same size.
ok calm down

The Pezman

10-12-2007, 04:25 AM

And BTW, for those who want Squall or Master Chief in Brawl, I say:

GENERAL CUSTARD.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Bubsy_front.jpg/421px-Bubsy_front.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Cool_Spot.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Comixzone.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0f/Toe_Jam_%26_Earl.jpg/427px-Toe_Jam_%26_Earl.jpg

The Pezman

10-12-2007, 04:26 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/Vectorman.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Glover_box.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Earthworm_Jim_Nintendo.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Tmnt_7.jpg/220px-Tmnt_7.jpg

The Pezman

10-12-2007, 04:39 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/PoP-megaCD_cover.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/WKarnov.png
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Apologies for the triple post but it was the only way to convey my meme effectively.

Johnny B

10-12-2007, 04:44 AM

Orrrrr maybe it's already done and they're just trying to give mario galaxy some space (EDIT: No pun intended). That seems a lot more likely.

~More like~
Sakurai-san: "How's the game coming along, boys?"
Sakurai's Boys: "Just putting the finishing touches on it now. Should be ready by 2:00 today, in plenty of time for the December 3 release date."
Sakurai-san: "WHAAAT? NOOOO! We can't release this game until the OC Remix group reaches page 1000!! Push it back!"
Boy 1: "To what? They're going at about 100 pages per month, so they should be ready well before Christmas."
Sakurai-san: "Naaaa! Whaaaa!!! Okay then, after Christmas."
Boy 1: "But they can still post in the thread after the game comes out. I mean, it's not like they have to start--"
Sakurai-san: "Quiet. What am I going to tell them on the website?"
Boy 1: "We could tell them we're adding a new character."
Boy 2: "Yeah, can we add Sonic? PLEASE? I've already coded him..."
Sakurai-san: "Fine, whatever. I'll put that on the site now."
Boy 1: "And can I add Mega Man?"
Boy 3: "I wanna play as Simon Belmont. Waa."
Boy 4: "I've already coded Alucard, Brian, Geno, Miis, Mog, Rayman, Rygar, Ryu Hyabusa, and Talim."
Sakurai-san: "Well, aren't you just the over-achiever?"
Boy 4: "Well, I did tell them to you in alphabetical order..."
Sakurai-san: "I bet you think you're getting a pay raise for that. We can put them in, but we'll have to balance all the characters. That puts us at February 10th in USA."
Boy 3: "Waa again."
Sakurai-san: "And I'll tell them the game needs 'polish.' Do you think anyone will believe that, though?"
Boy 1: "They always have."
Sakurai-san: "Good."