Super Smash Bros. Brawl [Archive] - Page 41

Arek the Absolute

12-13-2007, 07:22 PM

actually no, i saw that bean posted and i wanted to see what it was
and i also wanted to say it so this thread can continue on so the lurkers who were like OMG OMG 10K POSTS can go back to lurking

Ness could get a whole new moveset for all we know. Look at what they did with fox. Sure, his moveset didn't changed, but his look and stance sure has.

We have nothing to fear for just yet.

Rambo

12-13-2007, 07:32 PM

actually no, i saw that bean posted and i wanted to see what it was
and i also wanted to say it so this thread can continue on so the lurkers who were like OMG OMG 10K POSTS can go back to lurking

Yay The thread is back to normal! On that note and speaking of lurkers...
Lurkers in Brawl???

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u24/Rambotnic/lurker.jpg

Bigfoot

12-13-2007, 07:40 PM

Ness is still in guys. I just got special inside sources telling me that he will be wielding his bat at all times like Link/Marth/Roy, etc.

Doing a smash attack with the bat will have a 1% chance of doing a Smaaaaash! for double damage.

Hooooooooooooooooooooly crap

Steben

12-13-2007, 07:42 PM

Ness could get a whole new moveset for all we know.

Ness needs a whole new moveset, anyway. For example, moves that he could actually use in Mother 2 would be nice. All the regular attacks could be the same, but for his specials, I'd think...

Stationary Special: PSI Flash (same as always)
Up Special: PSI Teleport (like Farore's Wind)
Down Special: Shield Beta (a physical counter similar to Marth/Roy)
Over Special: PSI Paralysis or Hypnosis (similar to Jiggly's Lullabye)
Final Smash: PSI Rockin (full-screen damaging attack)

Huh. Now that I think about it, I guess this is why he borrowed his moveset from Paula and Poo... Ness's PSI powers were always boring, except for PSI Rockin.

The Author

12-13-2007, 08:01 PM

Actually, I hear they are gonna replace every character with a pokemon. And your 4 moves will be your directional special attacks.

Arek the Absolute

12-13-2007, 08:03 PM

That would be awesome to see a pokemon game like that.
Would be a lot more fun to play an alternative to the rpg style battles the current pokemon games have been using.

Admiral_C

12-13-2007, 08:31 PM

What they really need is a Pokemon MMO. They have all they need for one. It could be pretty awesome...

Back on topic, Looks like this will be a really fun stage. I can see the smoke bomb being used to great effect here.

Neonlare

12-13-2007, 08:37 PM

We need Pigma for Brawl.
Twisted and torturous, he makes Andross look like a wimp.

Inimitable

12-13-2007, 08:59 PM

http://www.avatardb.com/data/media/78/Star_Fox_-_Pigma.jpg I'm gonna make you squeal reeeaaal good!

Antipode

12-13-2007, 09:07 PM

Ah, my question of what happens at 1000 pages is answered.

Carry on.

MechaFone

12-13-2007, 10:54 PM

Holy raving smash attack, Batman! I missed the 10,000th post!

Linkjing Donuts

12-14-2007, 03:58 AM

That would be awesome to see a pokemon game like that.
Would be a lot more fun to play an alternative to the rpg style battles the current pokemon games have been using.
oh god yes. pokemon fighter

Steben

12-14-2007, 05:13 AM

I always thought it'd be neat as a bonus feature for Smash Bros if they had modes where you could play as the Smash cast in versions of the games these characters hailed, when those games lend to it.

What I mean is, design "Pokemon" characters for Mario, Link, Pit, etc. and let them fight each other and the Smash Pokemon in a turn-based Pokemon-style battle. Also, perhaps a truncated version of Super Mario that you can play as Sonic or Zelda in. Not like the cheesy opening level to Melee's Adventure, but an actual 2D Mario game.

I dunno. That idea sounded really cool when I was 15 and waiting for Melee to come out, anyway.

Eulogic

12-14-2007, 07:05 AM

alas, two characters i'd hoped would be playable

oh well, it's a step up from the previous many updates

Rambo

12-14-2007, 07:09 AM

Yay! No Waluigi! I personally, am thrilled.

Bigfoot

12-14-2007, 07:09 AM

Waluigi should have been playable :[ Oh well.

Neo Samus

12-14-2007, 07:10 AM

That's cool that Stafy is in SSBB at least as an AT. Intersting how you can attack him. I'm glad Waluigi is not playable, not a big fan of him.

cobaltstarfire

12-14-2007, 07:31 AM

Walugi kind of creeps me out, I'm glad he's just an assist...

All that talk of stomping is amusing though.

nookster

12-14-2007, 07:56 AM

Yay! No Waluigi! I personally, am thrilled.

that makes two of us

Ralphis

12-14-2007, 08:11 AM

Make it three of us

Binjovi

12-14-2007, 08:22 AM

I actually like Waluigi, believe it or not. However, I'm glad he's just an Assist Trophy. They've got a lot of Mushroom Kingdom representation as it stands. It's practically a Mario game now.

Brithor

12-14-2007, 09:05 AM

I actually like Waluigi, believe it or not. However, I'm glad he's just an Assist Trophy. They've got a lot of Mushroom Kingdom representation as it stands. It's practically a Mario game now.

Well, seeing as Mario games are Nintendo's biggest franchise and that Smash Bros. takes it's name from a Mario game, one would expect that franchise to get a little more attention.

Lord.Roderick.i

12-14-2007, 09:20 AM

Im personally glad that he is just an AT. WaLuigi is my least favorite character from the Mario Series.
IMO he was created to give Wario a companion just for the hell of it.

FuriousFure

12-14-2007, 09:40 AM

Walugi kind of creeps me out, I'm glad he's just an assist...

All that talk of stomping is amusing though.

it sure is, stomping... ha! waluigi is pretty funny, I just hope to God that they make Wart into an AT. and peach would be the only one who could hurt him!

Morrack

12-14-2007, 10:03 AM

Ha, Sakurai is back on the right track, two Support Trophies revealed instead of just one :D.
I really like this update.

And true, Waluigi as a Support Trophy is perfect. Although I hadn't expected him to be playable at all. Having both Wario and Waluigi playable for the first time in Brawl wouldn't sound logical. Maybe in a next Smash game, who knows.

Cavanikus

12-14-2007, 12:53 PM

that still gives us hope that Luigi is playable

megadave

12-14-2007, 02:44 PM

it sure is, stomping... ha! waluigi is pretty funny, I just hope to God that they make Wart into an AT. and peach would be the only one who could hurt him!

I disagree with you. Make him a playable character instead!! I agree with the vegatable thing though (if he's an AT).

Wipomatic

12-14-2007, 02:48 PM

that still gives us hope that Luigi is playable

I'm pretty certain Luigi will be playable. If they took him out, there would be massive uproar.

Paratha

12-14-2007, 03:41 PM

I'm liking the fact that Stafy is smiling even as he's being kicked by Diddy.

Here's hoping for a Megaman Monday update.

BardicKnowledge

12-14-2007, 04:46 PM

^What version of him would you want? I'd personally prefer the classic series to make an appearence with modern graphics, though I could live with a redone MMX4 white armor. Definitely _not_ MMBN etc. though.

megadave

12-14-2007, 04:51 PM

I'd like classic Mega Man, but a little taller like Mega Man X, and a guy's voice, not a 7-year-old girl's. Kinda like the look of Mega Man in the really awful cartoon, except without the cocky 'tude. That's what I'm hoping for, assuming we get any version of him at all.

Baleshadow

12-14-2007, 06:00 PM

This is somewhat encouraging. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/841/841550p1.html) Here's to hoping it can be incorporated into Brawl.

Airwalker

12-14-2007, 07:08 PM

This is somewhat encouraging. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/841/841550p1.html) Here's to hoping it can be incorporated into Brawl.

I was just about to post that. Yeah, I hope that if at least it isn't in the released version of brawl, that perhaps a system update later will allow the use of voice in Brawl and perhaps other games.

Paratha

12-15-2007, 01:40 AM

^What version of him would you want?

Classic. Though I like the X series more, Classic Megaman is the most iconic.

The Author

12-15-2007, 01:44 AM

Classic. Though I like the X series more, Classic Megaman is the most iconic.
Classic Megaman, and switching to X as the final smash.

Makai

12-15-2007, 01:53 AM

The gameplay is different enough between both series for both to be included as original characters. They would have different special attacks because of the different powers available in their own games, of course, but they could even have differences elsewhere, such as X being able to wall jump and Megaman's running attack being a slide for example.

MechaFone

12-15-2007, 02:11 AM

Forget it! I'm not doing the stupid slide!

Arek the Absolute

12-15-2007, 02:12 AM

who said you had to

plus the slide could be his charge kick he got from charge man

Aninymouse

12-15-2007, 02:17 AM

Cutman's saw blades would totally decimate everybody.

Arek the Absolute

12-15-2007, 02:38 AM

uh
cutman uses scissors
metal man uses saw blades

Binjovi

12-15-2007, 03:22 AM

Metal Blade is so ridiculously overpowered, it could be his final smash. :<

Actually, that would be an interesting FS mechanic. It could replace each directional special with an appropriately launched metal blade for massive damage (including diagonals). He wouldn't be invincible, but staying out of his line of fire would take priority over trying to knock him off the edge.

Makai

12-15-2007, 03:57 AM

Heck, they might as well give him only one b attack and give it 8 way directionality.

Oddllama

12-15-2007, 05:14 AM

Lord.Roderick.i

12-15-2007, 05:34 AM

WHY ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT MEGAMAN!?! I SEE THIS TALK ABOUT MEGAMAN AND I GET EXCITED AND I HAVE TO CHECK THE SITE AND THEN HE IS NOT THERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW DISAPPOINTED YOU HAVE MADE ME??
You dont understand though.
This Megaman talk is the weekend talk, and weekend talks usually have nothing to do with updates.

The Derrit

12-15-2007, 05:52 AM

As an addendum, all caps is also not relevant to how angry you are; you have 9000+ posts, you should know better!

For shame.

Arek the Absolute

12-15-2007, 06:04 AM

shaddap the derrit

Oddllama

12-15-2007, 08:02 AM

As an addendum, all caps is also not relevant to how angry you are; you have 9000+ posts, you should know better!

For shame.
I am above the law.

There is no amount of caps, no emoticon, no combination of bolding and size enhancing... nothing that could express my anger at that moment.
Never use His name in vain again.

Never.

Zeklan

12-15-2007, 08:07 AM

shaddap the derrit
O shit.
Arek.

On another note, I'm back online whooooo!

Sag Ee Mana

12-15-2007, 12:33 PM

Frenchy's stalking...

That's nice to see people don't change around here :)

Have a nice day !

Dhsu

12-15-2007, 12:45 PM

Did anyone anyone see the word "DEFLICKER" and think it was something much, much naughtier?

Rambo

12-15-2007, 06:07 PM

Did anyone anyone see the word "DEFLICKER" and think it was something much, much naughtier?

hahahahaha. I did now. If they hadn't crammed all those letters onto one little icon, that might not have been a problem! Most unfortunate.

Hector

12-15-2007, 07:19 PM

If metalman and cutman are coming up, we'd have better chances hoping that Capcom simply rips off the Smash franchise with a similar megaman game (they've certainly got enough characters, though some of the characters might have to fight over the status of being THE fire-based robot).

Moseph

12-16-2007, 03:10 AM

Did anyone anyone see the word "DEFLICKER" and think it was something much, much naughtier?

That same thought occurred to me the first time I played the old Sega game named Flicky.

Codycrusader

12-16-2007, 04:22 AM

So I bought Pokemon Snap on the VC and as I was playing I thought of two things, a new Pokemon Snap for the Wii and that Todd or Ted or whatever his name is and the little buggy should be an Assist Trophy. He could fly around and run you down and take pics of you that make you dizzy and crap, and then at the end of the game you get the pics from his angle. Pretty snazzy ehh?

Drack

12-16-2007, 04:53 AM

PESTER BALLS FUCK the all caps filter

atmuh

12-16-2007, 05:08 AM

someone said balls that wasnt me

Aninymouse

12-16-2007, 07:14 PM

Agreed, pester balls for the next item. Todd riding around on his Pokemon Snap buggy thing would be an awesome AT, too! As much as I love Pokemon, I'm surprised I never even thought to include stuff from Snap... I mean, I used to go to Toys R Us when I was younger JUST to play the Snap demo for hours...

Codycrusader

12-16-2007, 10:03 PM

I completly forgot about the pester balls. And while the topic of pokemon is still buzzing a lil' bit, I hope they don't add any off the crappy pokemon games they've been making (Mystery Dungeon, Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Ranger, and Pokemon Channel), I think we can all agree that they shouldn't even be mentioned in Brawl.

Aninymouse

12-17-2007, 02:44 AM

Agreed (10 char).

cobaltstarfire

12-17-2007, 03:25 AM

Did anyone anyone see the word "DEFLICKER" and think it was something much, much naughtier?

....

No.

I liked mystery dungeon...but I do agree that there isn't really anything from it that can be added to smash...seeing as most everything in it is already referencing back to some other pokemon game.

Steben

12-17-2007, 04:01 AM

I'd like to see Pester Balls work like the Mini (Poison?) 'Shroom or the faulty Hammer. They'd look pretty similar to the real thing, but once you pick it up it explodes and stuns you for a few moments.

Cortani

12-17-2007, 07:06 AM

Awesome update? In my Smash Dojo?

The more co-op the better, imho.

atmuh

12-17-2007, 07:07 AM

co op play in useless areas

Arek the Absolute

12-17-2007, 07:08 AM

Codycrusader

12-17-2007, 07:15 AM

I'm pissed that the awesome updates were short lived. But co-op is cool. Can't wait to totally piss my friends off with friendly fire... if that's even in co-op.

SirChadlyOC

12-17-2007, 07:18 AM

Clearly, this is not Mega Man. :cry:

However, this update is much better than most of the recent ones. I wish all games had lots of co-op. Now I just wonder if I can convince my girlfriend to play SSBB...

friendlyHunter

12-17-2007, 07:31 AM

Haha, the pokemon trainer has an alternate costume with green hair! Is that costume from a Pokemon game or cartoon, or was it made up just for Brawl? Oh wait that's a green hat :oops:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various19/various19_071217d-l.jpg

Anyway, it looks like the 3 pokemon have alternate colour schemes as well.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070813f.jpg

They still have some moves updates I've been waiting patiently for... If they have any major new characters up their sleeves (Megaman!!), it'd be pretty anticlimactic for them to release the game before they reveal the character on the Dojo. And especially anticlimactic to anyone in Europe.... What day is the Japan release again??

atmuh

12-17-2007, 07:33 AM

What day is the Japan release again??

january 24
i eagerly await it

FuriousFure

12-17-2007, 08:45 AM

Lord.Roderick.i

12-17-2007, 09:10 AM

Anyone ever plays coin battle?
I've had the game since it came out and I've played coin battle like 20 something times.
Now it has bills too... I wonder how is that gonna work... :S

Oddllama

12-17-2007, 09:19 AM

[11:08:01 PM] Atma says: i hate events
[11:08:06 PM] Arek says: sucks for you
[11:08:08 PM] Arek says: cause i like them
[11:08:11 PM] Atma says: :[
[11:08:14 PM] Arek says: ps
[11:08:15 PM] Arek says: your mom
He got you good, chump!

Clearly, this is not Mega Man. :cry:

I thought I told you people not to use His name in vain again!

#Az

12-17-2007, 02:24 PM

After all the Megaman Monday hype, loading up DOJO to see another mode update was extremely disappointing.

So much so that I felt the need to register and post about it.

MechaFone

12-17-2007, 03:54 PM

I thought I told you people not to use His name in vain again!
We want BigMan! We want GreatMan! We want MegaBlueBoy! That dude that Bob and George make fun of!

Jam Stunna

12-17-2007, 05:51 PM

I was thinking that it would be awesome if they had a stage based on the final battle in Wind Waker.

linkspast

12-17-2007, 06:17 PM

I was thinking that it would be awesome if they had a stage based on the final battle in Wind Waker.

Like an event or an actual map?

Funny how hes just says " oh yeah coin battles are in... oh and 2p target test.."

A decent update...

Jam Stunna

12-17-2007, 06:18 PM

An actual map, hopefully.

nookster

12-17-2007, 08:43 PM

I was thinking that it would be awesome if they had a stage based on the final battle in Wind Waker.

I think it would be awesome if they had ANY stage from windwaker

Codycrusader

12-17-2007, 11:53 PM

I think it would be awesome if they had ANY stage from windwaker
Preferably Outset Island, that music is so catchy! I forgot to add this on my last post but you Mega Men (That is what I call the Mega Man fan base... I know it sucks, bite me) got PWNED HARD!!1!1!!11!!1

atmuh

12-18-2007, 02:53 AM

why the balls is this thread about mega man
hed make a crappy brawl character

Scufo

12-18-2007, 03:46 AM

why the balls is this thread about mega man
hed make a crappy brawl character
Ok now you're just trolling.

Come on now.

atmuh

12-18-2007, 03:50 AM

Ok now you're just trolling.

Come on now.

uh no i enter the thread hoping to see some discussion about super smash brothers brawl since the thread is entitled super smash bros brawl and i see only posts about mega man and honestly i really dont think hed make a good character in brawl all hed do is make all you silly fanboys asplode with uncontrollable joy not because of the type of character he is but only because of the existence of him and i dont agree with that reasoning

Tenucha

12-18-2007, 04:07 AM

why the balls is this thread about mega man
hed make a crappy brawl character
You're right... I vote on Earthworm Jim ;)

MechaFone

12-18-2007, 04:29 AM

haha! Earthworm Jim's Final Smash: Queen Slug-for-a-butt chases Jim around the whole screen, he shoots at her and misses and hits everybody else and the whole screen gets flattened by the Queen's big giant quivering, pulsating, Slug-like ASS.

Gerbah

12-18-2007, 04:48 AM

uh no i enter the thread hoping to see some discussion about super smash brothers brawl since the thread is entitled super smash bros brawl and i see only posts about mega man and honestly i really dont think hed make a good character in brawl all hed do is make all you silly fanboys asplode with uncontrollable joy not because of the type of character he is but only because of the existence of him and i dont agree with that reasoning

yeh i mean whats next sonic? OH WAIT.

ANY-dang-way. Have we talked about todays update yet? I'm really liking how there are so many co-op modes, because well, sometimes it gets a little draining to be constantly competing against each other, I want to be friendly every so often! I'm hoping that we can do team battles online, but I can team up with someone on the same console, I'd abuse that feature like nobodies business.

Now let's all speculate on what the update is gonna be in a couple hours! More game modes?

...Probably...

atmuh

12-18-2007, 07:07 AM

i LOVED the metroid prime stage but then he was like owait it flips
why cant there be more cool stages that THEY JUST LEAVE ALONE

Mastertoku

12-18-2007, 07:09 AM

I have a feeling the Orpheon Frigate will be best understood when seen in action - the screenshots are a little unclear. Maybe it's just me, though.

And Porky's theme - I have mixed feelings on. Does it sound sufficiently Smash-ful to everybody else?... I mean, if it's just me...

friendlyHunter

12-18-2007, 07:37 AM

Question: Do they keep putting the worst Mother songs in Smash, or just the ones that I happen to think are the worst Mother songs? The Mother 2 (Earthbound) soundtrack alone is FULL of amazing material, yet so far they've managed to avoid putting a single good Earthbound songs in a Smash Bros game. Same with StarFox and Pokemon... am I the only one with these woes? What does "woes" mean?

And I already knew the Smash team was completely unable to translate a 2D Metroid room into a 3D Metroid stage, but how can they fail at translating a 3D Metroid room into... hmm... THE SAME 3D Metroid room?!?? I don't remember exactly what the Pirate Frigate in Metroid Prime looked like, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't ugly as sin. Worst colour scheme ever.

And oh yeah, it flips upside down. .....WHY???

If they put Ridley in the game, they'll probably make up something dumb for him to do like fly at the camera to block everyone's view, and then stomp around on the ground shooting ice lasers from his eyes and nostrils.

Actually, that sound hella cool.

Or, at least it would, if I knew what "hella" is supposed to mean....

BardicKnowledge

12-18-2007, 08:55 AM

I also disapprove of the tune, but since I haven't played Mother 3, I have to reserve total judgment. I enjoyed the Earthbound tunes in Melee though....

Oddllama

12-18-2007, 09:40 AM

Lord.Roderick.i

12-18-2007, 02:28 PM

Airwalker

12-18-2007, 02:30 PM

Yeesh, make a stage dynamic and everybody cries foul. God forbid there be anything other than a static flat stage with two ends.

Gerbah

12-18-2007, 02:41 PM

Wow, I am the ONLY person who LOVES the music, but then again I've played through Mother 3... Really, it was my favorite track in the game, and they did a great job with it I think.

Plus they are using Snowman from Mother 1+2, as we know. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pollyanna... But yeah, I like the music, and the stage isn't bad, nothing incredible but still pretty cool to look at out of context.

The Author

12-18-2007, 02:43 PM

The stage flips because in MP when the space station would go down into Aether it would be upside down (and full of water)

Tallon IV, not Aether.

Ralphis

12-18-2007, 03:09 PM

Hey I thought his name was Pokey, not porky

Lord.Roderick.i

12-18-2007, 03:16 PM

Tallon IV, not Aether.

Oops...
OMG I cant believe I made that mistake :p

The Author

12-18-2007, 03:21 PM

Oh, and I want a Majora's Mask level ON THE FREAKING MOON.

I mean, that water stage was nice and all, but it was not a "significant" location all things considered. MM would be better represented by the clock tower or the moon, should they chose to throw in a MM level in.

Steben

12-18-2007, 04:40 PM

Hey I thought his name was Pokey, not porky

You're right... perhaps they decided to retcon the translation? Since he's supposed to be a Pig King and all.

Not that it matters what the official translation is, because they'll never actually officially translate a Mother game for us.

Red Shadow

12-18-2007, 05:13 PM

porky is and always has been pokey's japanese name

the fact that theyre using the japanese name is one of those things that makes you realize we're never getting mother 3 officially translated

Airwalker

12-18-2007, 06:07 PM

porky is and always has been pokey's japanese name

the fact that theyre using the japanese name is one of those things that makes you realize we're never getting mother 3 officially translated

Or you could be one of those optimists and see the inclusion of Mother 3 as a sign that demand will increase and may lead to a US release, a la Fire Emblem. Perhaps we'll have a more faithful translation?

Here's to Mother 3 on Mother's Day, 2008! (That's right, I'm calling a date.)

Ferret

12-18-2007, 07:11 PM

Well I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see a Metroid-themed level but I'm wondering if the Parasite Queen will attack players or if it's just atmosphere and the only hazard is the rotating stage the way it was with Brinstar Depths.

Oh, and Final Destination with Bob-Ombs only set on Very High.
>:D

Scufo

12-18-2007, 07:53 PM

And oh yeah, it flips upside down. .....WHY???
Seriously. I don't recall the frigate ever randomly flipping in MP. Dynamic stages are all good and well, but not when they don't make any goddamn sense.

Plus, with the exception of Pokemon Stadium and maybe Mute City, did anyone actually play any of Melee's moving/changing stages on a regular basis? Cause I sure as hell didn't. Normal MP stage plz.

cobaltstarfire

12-18-2007, 08:05 PM

Plus, with the exception of Pokemon Stadium and maybe Mute City, did anyone actually play any of Melee's moving/changing stages on a regular basis? Cause I sure as hell didn't. Normal MP stage plz.

I know people that enjoyed playing on Poke-floats quite a bit.

Theres plenty of other levels that don't seem to move around a lot, go play on one of those if you don't like the moving ones.

Admiral_C

12-18-2007, 08:09 PM

Seriously. I don't recall the frigate ever randomly flipping in MP. Dynamic stages are all good and well, but not when they don't make any goddamn sense.

Yes... Because SMASH BROTHERS, is supposed to make sense...

Bigfoot

12-18-2007, 08:19 PM

Seriously. I don't recall the frigate ever randomly flipping in MP. Dynamic stages are all good and well, but not when they don't make any goddamn sense.

Brinstar on Melee doesn't make sense either.

Mr.Roboto

12-18-2007, 08:36 PM

I know people that enjoyed playing on Poke-floats quite a bit.

Theres plenty of other levels that don't seem to move around a lot, go play on one of those if you don't like the moving ones.

Don't forget about Big Blue,thats a pretty awesome stage too.

Scufo

12-18-2007, 09:35 PM

I never said moving stages are bad. But after the WHOA THIS STAGE IS MOVING effect wears off you just end up having to fight the stage more than your opponents and it gets annoying. Go into your records and I guarantee your most played stages will not be pokefloats, or big blue, or flat zone, or rainbow cruise, or icicle mountain.

The queen should periodically attack with its huge beam thingy instead (kind of like Lugia's attack but not insta-death). Then you would have a cool hazard that's true to the game but isn't too intrusive.

IMO.

MechaFone

12-18-2007, 09:40 PM

Icicle mountain, least played. Pokefloats and Big Blue are played often, 'cause I likes a good challenge when I'm playing. (...it also gives me a chance to keep playing for more than three minutes 'cause I suck. And playing around obstacles gives me more of a chance to show off my hit 'em and run-repeat technique...cough)

HideousBeing

12-18-2007, 09:49 PM

Yes... Because SMASH BROTHERS, is supposed to make sense...
Naturally. I mean, I double jump all the time. I also fly further when I get in fights after every consecutive hit I get, until I get pummeled so high, I fall far away from the fightground and nondescriptly dissappear with a bling. Then, of course, I spawn on lit up gyro-platform, or else my family would miss me.

Codycrusader

12-18-2007, 10:23 PM

That's cool, hope they have more references to the Prime series. But this stage made me think of all of the other moving stages which made me think of the 3rd parties... I'm starting to get the feeling that Brawl might be a little sucky because it's sticking to the "OMG TEH STAGE IZ MOVING WIT SONICZ!1!!1!11!!!1" and it's gonna only do that crap. I suppose the Sakuri dude or however you spell it is bored

Mr Jarna

12-18-2007, 10:24 PM

You forgot to mention that you have a colorful shield that pops up whenever you don't want to take a hit...or an egg.

Also, I just realized that I'm not going to be able to play as Sonic, for whenever I jump and go into the little ball I'm going to try to hit people with my jump ala every Sonic game ever.

cobaltstarfire

12-18-2007, 11:41 PM

I thought his jump and spin jump were separated in Brawl? Maybe I thought wrong though. (heh that's what I get for thinking?)

I'm too lazy to check my records, and they would hardly do any good since my friends and I played smash on like 4 different systems depending on where we were and who we were with. We all tended to turn off Rainbow cruise, G&W level, Venom, icicle mountain, both the mushroom kingdom stages.

We'd pick the stage with the random, not by any specific preference. So in all likelihood there isn't a huge disparity between play counts on moving and stationary stages...

Global-Trance

12-19-2007, 01:25 AM

I went to Northern California Ultimate Biweekly at San Jose State University.
Biggest f'ing tournament I've been to with a large handful of top names in the state there. Here's the list of the 48 of the 90 people. The bottom 42 players not listed were all eliminated in pools.

Singles (90 Entrants, 48 in Bracket Only)

1: SilentSpectre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vziStKcg6g)
2: Zhu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjKWs7IMdPQ)
3: Falcomist
4: Nemesis
5: Mexican
5: Lucien
7: Tang
7: Meep
9: Germ
9: Mr. Ganondorf
9: SideFX
9: Choknater
13: Zelgadis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44CRrJVhUIo)
13: BTZO
13: Frotaz
13: Phil
17: Khepri
17: Mike666
17: DRGN
17: HugQ
17: SNPR
17: Kira
17: Delphiki
17: Hyuga
25: Nek
25: AfroJustin
25: Global-Trance
25: SYNSEER
25: Hydrokirby
25: Simna
25: Mike Haze
25: T0mmy
33: P
33: JP
33: D4DDy
33: Hardgay
33: Kizzo
33: Nhat
33: Darkmatma
33: Twin
33: HMW
33: Mexi
33: Scamp
33: Zoap
33: Ian
33: BB
33: REL
33: Quak

Arek the Absolute

12-19-2007, 01:30 AM

zhu getting second? no shock there

Drack

12-19-2007, 01:34 AM

There were no smashers in Orpheon before it crashed.

This should be an underwater level.

Oddllama

12-19-2007, 06:41 AM

Moving stages take the focus away from playing well and put it on avoiding falling off. They make for poor stages.

Just because "smash brothers" doesn't make much sense doesn't mean you shouldn't put effort into level design and balance.

and I would not bat an eyelash if Mother 3 is released with more Japanese names. It's happened before, and a simple name difference isn't much of an idicator of a non-release.

atmuh

12-19-2007, 07:03 AM

"This item has absolutely no relevance for [90% of smash players]."

"But, if you don’t alert each other, you may not hit your teammate."

so how do i heal my teammate in an online match again???

linkspast

12-19-2007, 07:04 AM

So, its like food.... you can throw....

I-n-j-i-n

12-19-2007, 07:06 AM

I think this item is pretty boring/totally-useless in single player and free for alls and outright essential for serious multiplayer contests.

Hopefully this means we see more serious team battles in SSB unlike the typical 1 vs 1 in tournaments.

atmuh

12-19-2007, 07:08 AM

Aninymouse

12-19-2007, 07:12 AM

What Atma said.

I-n-j-i-n

12-19-2007, 07:21 AM

tournaments ban items
ESPECIALLY recovery items

<3 tournaments

It doesn't make sense to put in such tactical items if it's not going to be used. That said, tourneys can be bullshit that way too.

Global-Trance

12-19-2007, 07:31 AM

There's plenty of team battles at tournaments if you like... go to them.

Broken

12-19-2007, 07:34 AM

I'm not going to lie. That's probably THE dumbest item I've ever seen. An item that doesn't allow you to heal yourself and may heal your opponent. Thanks, but I'd rather rape someone's sheild with Mr. Saturn.

Drack

12-19-2007, 08:02 AM

What if you throw it up and it falls back onto you?

TSU

12-19-2007, 08:08 AM

What if you throw it up and it falls back onto you?

I was thinking that exactly.

Scufo

12-19-2007, 12:56 PM

I'm not a big fan of recovery items. But I can see this being kinda cool for team battles. Non-serious ones, of course.

Brithor

12-19-2007, 01:42 PM

I'm not a big fan of recovery items. But I can see this being kinda cool for team battles. Non-serious ones, of course.

Non-serious ones? This item requires a lot of coordination to be used successfully... serious enough to me.

#Az

12-19-2007, 01:59 PM

A lot of coordination?

... Standing in front of a team mate? Shit, I'm out.

Srs indeed.

Rambo

12-19-2007, 05:33 PM

I wonder if it can be reflected. If your teammate (fox) doesn't need it.. but you're much closer to it, if you can throw it at him and have him reflect it. lulz

BeleagueredandBeset

12-19-2007, 09:44 PM

So... it's basically an Anybody-You-Chuck-It-At Healer...?

Wow. I have, at least to some degree, appreciated every item they've come up with so far. But this is nonsense. I'm a huge Nintendo fan, and I say this is nonsense.

When would you use this? If your teammate can't fend for himself and/or obtain his own recovery items, then you need to find a new teammate.

This is pointless. The ONLY way I could see this not being pointless would be if you turned all other healing items off, in which case I could possibly imagine some interesting cooperative play.

I hope tomorrow's update doesn't suck.

Effector

12-19-2007, 10:24 PM

Jeez, everyone. I reacted in a similarly critical way when I saw the update on my lunch break, but on further reflection, it seems like it would open up a few tactical doors we haven't seen in Smash before. Previously, the recover damage, it was more of "the guys with higher damage goes for the item, while the other guy keeps the opponents at bay", while with this item, it's an interesting reversal of the roles, with the addition of your opponents trying to get in the way in hopes of getting hit with the healer.

Dunno about you guys, but 90% of my Smash matches with other humans are team matches. And I almost always play with the majority of the items on. So, while I don't think this is the single most amazing item ever, I can see it mixing up the old Smash formula a bit.

As for tourneyfags, they can discard three-quarters of these updates, anyways, seeing as they won't be playing with/on them. :3 Just kidding, I love you guys. Not really.

Jam Stunna

12-19-2007, 11:39 PM

I posted this on Smashboards first, but I liked it so I'm bringing it here:

Memories of a Smash Noob, Volume I

Am I the only person that was a little disappointed when they learned that Mew2King doesn't actually play Mewtwo in tournaments?

Roy was obviously better than Marth, because he had fire, and Falco's laser sucked because it was slower than Fox's.

Link was amazing because of Up B edgeguards.

I called my brother cheap the first time he edgehogged me.

The very first tournament I went to, I expected to win because I was as good as my friend, who I thought was great. Then I played Cort in my first match.

Hyrule Temple was a great stage.

Wavedashing was just a fancy trick that people did to feel good about themselves.

Beating someone in a free-for-all= beating them in a 1-on-1.

Peach was for people who sucked and couldn't recover without her floatiness.

The meteor smash was the best move in the game.

Arek the Absolute

12-20-2007, 12:22 AM

useless item omg omg game sucks omg omg

Strike911

12-20-2007, 12:39 AM

Interesting item. . . . not necessarily for what it does, but for the likelyhood of items that can be used by teams...

what if there's an item that requires two people to use it? Like... a really large gun or something?

Hmm... I hope we see more items that can be used for team battles. It would add an entirely new dimension to Smash Bros.

friendlyHunter

12-20-2007, 12:53 AM

Umm, so what's so bad about this item? 90% of the time I turn just the recovery items off... but frankly, this looks like the best recovery item they've ever come up with. (Well, maybe second-best, after Diddy's peanuts.)

Just think about all the strategy involved:

3 on 1? Don't have any teammates? Well then you'd better get to it as fast as you can and throw it off the cliff! But dang, your opponents are crowding on either side of you, to throw it past them you'll have to devise some sort of strategy- OHH NOES A STRATEGY, THIS ITEM SUCKS!

Free for all? Well, if you're the type to pick on the guy that's winning, how about throwing it at the guy that's losing? Playing a timed match? Throw it at someone to save their life, preventing another opponent from getting a kill.

And just the thought of an item that you TRY TO INTERCEPT IN MID-FLIGHT is pretty freaking sweet. Ever played Football? Ultimate? Soccer? Countless games are based around passing an item, what could possibly be bad about having an item like that Smash? Hell, Smash Bros. could have a "keep away" or "capture the flag" mode and it'd fit right in. Hmmm, makes me wonder what that soccer ball item will do....

[Edit]

AHA, another FFA strategy: pick up the item and lure some sucker into a trap of motion sensor bombs and Pitfalls. Or lure a 2vs2 opponent into a trap when they go to intercept the item. Combined with bumpers and explosives, the possibilities for fun are endless!!

Scufo

12-20-2007, 12:54 AM

I mostly like this item because it's reminiscent of various shoot-stuff-at-teammates-but-actually-help-them moves in Phantom Dust. Which is an awesome game that no one has heard of.

With normal recovery items the person who's closest to it when it appears gets it (and seeing someone undo all the damage I caused instantly just because they got lucky and a heart container appeared right next to them SUCKS). With this you have to actually do stuff to recover. Stuff that could actually be preventable. So yeah the more I think about it the more I like it. Still shouldn't be used outside casual play though.

Oddllama

12-20-2007, 05:37 AM

-who cares item-

One item

move on

Codycrusader

12-20-2007, 05:56 AM

I don't really care for this item because I never really do team battles

(The new Zelda looks ugly in red, she looks like a grandma :P)

Rambo

12-20-2007, 06:18 AM

I posted this on Smashboards first, but I liked it so I'm bringing it here:
The meteor smash was the best move in the game.

IT'S STILL THE MOST SATISFYING! :<
very nice list btw

SirChadlyOC

12-20-2007, 07:05 AM

This update is good for one thing:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220s-l.jpg

Man, that's hilarious.

Lord.Roderick.i

12-20-2007, 07:07 AM

This update is good for one thing:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220s-l.jpg

Man, that's hilarious.
It would be incredibly funny if they accentuate Kirby's ass too

Jam Stunna

12-20-2007, 07:15 AM

Snake Kirby is amazing.

Dhsu

12-20-2007, 07:19 AM

Hahahaha. This makes up for all the worthless updates we've been getting.

Global-Trance

12-20-2007, 07:28 AM

The beard goes UNDER his arm. THAT's manly.

Steben

12-20-2007, 07:39 AM

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220s-l.jpg

This picture will take the internet by storm.

Strike911

12-20-2007, 07:40 AM

oh man; totally, freakin' worth it.

Snake Kirby is awesome and hilarious on so many levels.

I had been really bored with the updates lately, but this redeems it! :)

Rambo

12-20-2007, 08:01 AM

Hahahaha. This makes up for all the worthless updates we've been getting.

Agreed.
But that's not to say we can go back to getting shit again.....
I'd be more content getting a Kirby costume update EVERYday than what we've been getting....

!Nekko!

12-20-2007, 08:21 AM

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7517/snirbybp8.jpg
Well I was pretty close.

StarZander

12-20-2007, 08:29 AM

Best. Kirby. Evar.

Kiyosuki

12-20-2007, 09:01 AM

Anyone else get this image in their head of a bald Solid Snake?

Scufo

12-20-2007, 01:28 PM

So I guess Dedede can also inhale?

Airwalker

12-20-2007, 03:09 PM

:| What? No Sonic Kirby?

Oh well. Snake Kirby quenches the Kirby thirst. For now.

Bigfoot

12-20-2007, 05:17 PM

:| What? No Sonic Kirby?

Oh well. Snake Kirby quenches the Kirby thirst. For now.

I think it's obvious that they took out Sonic due to disc capacity issues.

Admiral_C

12-20-2007, 06:43 PM

Nah, He's on the 2nd disc...

Neo Samus

12-20-2007, 08:27 PM

Nah, He's on the 2nd disc...

Heh. I gotta kick out that commnet.

Beside Snake Kirby, Zero Kirby looks pretty funny as well.

Strike911

12-20-2007, 09:42 PM

Nah, He's on the 2nd disc...

No, Sonic is on the 3rd disc. I have insider information.

Admiral_C

12-20-2007, 09:55 PM

That's only if you include the "Sonic/Knuckles & Brawl" Expansion disc that you stack on the top of the other disc to unlock extra levels.

Strike911

12-20-2007, 10:31 PM

That's only if you include the "Sonic/Knuckles & Brawl" Expansion disc that you stack on the top of the other disc to unlock extra levels.

oh yeah, I forgot about that one. I'm excited about attaching cartridges and discs to it and to get secret bonus levels.

...but clearly, the best part of the bonus disc is Master Chief when you do 2000 cliff hangers in one game. Again, insider cheat info.

The Mutericator

12-20-2007, 10:49 PM

Anyone else get this image in their head of a bald Solid Snake?

Yes. And it is infinitely worse than every drawing anyone's made of Snake Kirby up until now.

Seriously, does NO ONE working with Sakurai see that he looks bald?

Critical Hit

12-20-2007, 10:53 PM

I like where this thread is going :<

Thin Crust

12-20-2007, 11:14 PM

I like where this thread is going :<

Not entirely sure where it is going. Why does a game thread have over 10,000 posts?

MechaFone

12-20-2007, 11:36 PM

Because Kirtby's transformations and Sonic's lockon capabilities give lurve to the testiclites

atmuh

12-21-2007, 12:27 AM

Not entirely sure where it is going. Why does a game thread have over 10,000 posts?

HEY ITS MY FAVORITE POSTER ON THE INTERNET

Brithor

12-21-2007, 01:49 AM

Yes. And it is infinitely worse than every drawing anyone's made of Snake Kirby up until now.

Seriously, does NO ONE working with Sakurai see that he looks bald?

Heh, it's not THAT bad.

Scufo

12-21-2007, 02:14 AM

Yeah he definitely needs the mullet. This calls for an INTERNET PETITION.

Strike911

12-21-2007, 02:19 AM

...INTERNET PETITION....

To The Waste-of-time-mobile Batman!

I wouldn't mind a mullet, but I think I can deal.

edit: this post is going to come back to haunt me.

Arek the Absolute

12-21-2007, 02:48 AM

a lot of your posts should
but thats okay cause i like you

Rambo

12-21-2007, 02:54 AM

Why does a game thread have over 10,000 posts?
Because this game is more important than God. It says so in the bible.

friendlyHunter

12-21-2007, 03:43 AM

Not entirely sure where it is going. Why does a game thread have over 10,000 posts?
I think it's because it's a thread about Brawl - that counts for about 60% of the posts. But then people keep posting here about Melee because there's no Melee thread - that's another 30%. And then there's the people who make posts that have nothing to do about Smash Bros, and only talk about how ridiculous and epic the thread has gotten - another 8%. The remaining 2% are about topics that are not directly related to the ridiculousness of the thread, and may or may not be related to Brawl in some minor form. Such as this one:
a lot of your posts should
but thats okay cause i like you

I can't not love Snake-Kirby, but I was really looking forward to Wario-kirby with a Wario nose and 'stache. That image will amuse me to no end. Well, time to get photoshoppin'!

Also it appears Kirby does not get Dedede's hammer... and we know that Kirby still has at least one hammer move, but not whether it's a special move or a regular move. So... we just got the "Kirby: Special Moves" update, and yet we know almost NOTHING about Kirby's special moves. But the Snake picture makes it SOOOOO worth it ^_^ Here's hoping for the rest of Kirby's moves tommorow... or Samus' moves, or Zelda's moves or Final Smash.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7517/snirbybp8.jpg
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220s.jpg

It looks like Snake's head got cut horizontally in half, and then each Kirby swallowed one of the halves.

Eulogic

12-21-2007, 06:35 AM

Here's hoping for the rest of Kirby's moves tommorow... or Samus' moves, or Zelda's moves

They probably didn't change from the last game, and if that is the case, I'd just as soon not have him waste an update on it.

Steben

12-21-2007, 07:00 AM

I'd like to see Kirby gaining analogs of all of a copied opponent's special moves, rather than just the stationary special move. I think that'd make him a more interesting character to play as, and against.

Arek the Absolute

12-21-2007, 07:02 AM

ah fuck
a movie update
someone upload this on youtube please

atmuh

12-21-2007, 07:06 AM

as good as an update is going to get these days

Eulogic

12-21-2007, 07:09 AM

Not really. The new stage wasn't a bad update. The only real new information in this update is that Lucas has a bat smash, Link is paired with Yoshi, and Metaknight is paired with the Ice Climbers. Yawn.

Bigfoot

12-21-2007, 07:10 AM

ah fuck
a movie update
someone upload this on youtube please

It actually loaded for me in a few seconds.

atmuh

12-21-2007, 07:10 AM

updates really dont matter much anymore though
i mean think about it
in a month we are going to know EVERYTHING about this game so there isnt really any sense in them going crazy to get info out

Strike911

12-21-2007, 07:11 AM

It actually loaded for me in a few seconds.

same here. good update. ^_^

Airwalker

12-21-2007, 07:12 AM

It's always nice to see it in action, even if half of it was stuff we've already seen and 19/20ths of the rest was what we were already expecting, and out of all of it, only a small portion is gameplay footage rather than pre-rendered video.

Scufo

12-21-2007, 07:13 AM

So it's a movie introducing a mode...that we've already been introduced to. Hooray for scraping the bottom of the barrel, eh?

Rambo

12-21-2007, 07:17 AM

This video brings my "psyched for this game" level back up to 100%.
What guns were Bowser and Wario using? And was Samus shooting a SUPER missile!?

eternal Zero

12-21-2007, 12:01 PM

So Metaknight -is- acting as a foil to Pit...this only leads me to further believe that nobody really wanted Pit to be added, but they needed some sort of angelic character to balance out the black wings of kirby-like destruction.

#Az

12-21-2007, 12:18 PM

This video brings my "psyched for this game" level back up to 100%.
What guns were Bowser and Wario using? And was Samus shooting a SUPER missile!?
There's a video on gametrailers somewhere of the intro to SSE, in which that cutscene with Wario is shown in full. The gun turns you into a trophy if you get hit, and Wario hits Zelda and runs off with her. I'm assuming that's what Bowser had in mind, too.

EDIT: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26687.html

Yeah, it's the same thing.

Brithor

12-21-2007, 12:29 PM

#Az

12-21-2007, 01:01 PM

If you're basing the foil thing off the fact that the Halberd approaches Pit in his intro, I wouldn't count on it. It looks like the Halberd has been hijacked by the Subspace Army, so I imagine MetaKnight will be after it too.

That or Nintendo have gone all the way and made him into a villain : /

Rambo

12-21-2007, 02:18 PM

There's a video on gametrailers somewhere of the intro to SSE, in which that cutscene with Wario is shown in full. The gun turns you into a trophy if you get hit, and Wario hits Zelda and runs off with her. I'm assuming that's what Bowser had in mind, too.

EDIT: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26687.html

Yeah, it's the same thing.

Perfect! Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that trailer. I like how evil Wario was made out to be in it. Brawl needs more villains. :)

megadave

12-21-2007, 02:37 PM

I'll probably play as Wario first. He has fart attacks. You can't get any cooler than that.

Bigfoot

12-21-2007, 04:02 PM

Lucas seems pretty nimble. He lands on his hands after his attack, haha.

#Az

12-21-2007, 04:04 PM

Perfect! Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that trailer. I like how evil Wario was made out to be in it. Brawl needs more villains. :)
No problem.

Yeah, I agree with you. I'm liking how Melee and Brawl have added counterparts for several of the protagonists in the game, like Link getting Ganondorf, and Kirby getting DeDeDe. That's one of the main reasons I'm hoping Ganondorf's back in, regardless of moveset.

I'll probably play as Wario first. He has fart attacks. You can't get any cooler than that.Admittedly, probably the only reason I'll be avoiding Wario. I don't object to his being in Brawl, though. It was long overdue.

EDIT: Speaking of which, I am for some reason ridiculously hyped about playing as DeDeDe. I'm not a fan of hard-hitters (I mained Marth on Melee for the speed), so I really don't see myself playing him competetively, but he just seems so unlike any other character.

Which is ridiculous, because from the looks of things, he's got alot of Kirby's moves.

Maybe I'm just hot for that epic hammer.

Codycrusader

12-21-2007, 07:47 PM

I really like how the most beautiful part of the song shows the stadium blowing up. And that part when there's a crap load of those doll things getting beat up by a beam sword, who is that fighting, I can't see him/her/it?

Ray Falling

12-21-2007, 10:25 PM

Watching that clip again made me remember the part with Fox, Diddy and Rayquaza and realize how totally awesome the blending of game series is being handled.

It seems like some of the more "bad" guys are using the weapons that turn people into trophies, like discussed earlier. I wonder how that fits into the plot and what needs to be done to "cleanse" them of their evil ways.

Everything looks so great and hilarious at the same time :) Hopefully we'll be playing this game very soon.

Ferret

12-22-2007, 12:51 AM

B
A
B
Y
!

Laser kick laser jump...!

RyuDeathstrike

12-22-2007, 09:22 AM

All I want for christmas is:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f199/WDarling/MyMegaManUpdate.png

Woot. Go Mega.

atmuh

12-22-2007, 05:40 PM

All I want for christmas is:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f199/WDarling/MyMegaManUpdate.png

Woot. Go Mega.

WHY
if ANYTHING something like a belmont would fit as a 3rd party character
megaman does NOT

#Az

12-22-2007, 06:07 PM

Why Belmont?

There's nowhere near enough of a connection, in my opinion.

Bomberman would be a better call, but I think he'd be too limited moveset-wise.

Due to the role of villains this time around, I'm thinking it's possible that last spot could be one, but I really can't think of anyone suitable, looking at the roster. K. Rool seems ruled out through the explanation of DK's involvement being Bowser, the Mario universe already has 3(+?) characters, as does Kirby's now. With Ganondorf returning, so would Link/Zelda's, and the only villain suitable I can think of to add to Fox's universe I see being a Fox clone (Wolf).

The third-parties seem stand-alone, if you ask me, since they are essentially guests, and Pit's role as an onlooker in the SSE intro makes me doubt that his nemesis(es?) will feature, though I know -nothing- about Kid Icarus. As far as I'm aware, the Ice Climbers don't have a counterpart, so if this newcomer is going to be related to anybody, it's going to be Lucas, Ike or Samus as far as I can tell.

Did Samus have a single, set enemy? For such a popular series, Metroid seems under-represented...

linkspast

12-22-2007, 06:36 PM

Did Samus have a single, set enemy? For such a popular series, Metroid seems under-represented...

Space pirates. Kinda. They would make a cool AT, at the very least.

Scufo

12-22-2007, 07:00 PM

So I was in a Gamestop today, and I overheard two employees talking about a Brawl demo that is supposedly coming out with the latest issue of Nintendo Power. I asked them if they were gonna be selling the issue, but they said the demo only goes to subscribers. Nintendo doesn't often release demos though, so this seems a little wierd. Were they just trying to fuck with me or something? Anyone hear about this?

Thalzon

12-22-2007, 07:12 PM

As far as I'm aware, the Ice Climbers don't have a counterpart, so if this newcomer is going to be related to anybody, it's going to be Lucas, Ike or Samus as far as I can tell.

Did Samus have a single, set enemy? For such a popular series, Metroid seems under-represented...

Lucas' nemesis = Porky
Ike's nemesis = Dark Knight or something like that
Samus' nemesis = Ridley or Dark Samus

Personally, I think it'd be cool to see Dark Samus as a playable. She's have Samus' weight and size, but her jumps and entire moveset would be different.

For starters, she floats a lot like Mewtwo. Secondly, in the first battle against her in Prime 2, she showcases about 3 or so moves that could be specials: A scatter laser shot, an invulnerability aura (could be a bit like Nayru's Love), and a move where she turns into a ball of phazon and launches into the ground (could be her 3rd jump). I personally believe she has much potential in that regard.

#Az

12-22-2007, 07:17 PM

Space pirates. Kinda. They would make a cool AT, at the very least.

Right, yeah, I looked that up and remembered Ridley. He was a trophy in Melee and appeared in the intro, and he flew around in the original Smash Bros. Samus level. Still, an AT sounds most likely.
So I was in a Gamestop today, and I overheard two employees talking about a Brawl demo that is supposedly coming out with the latest issue of Nintendo Power. I asked them if they were gonna be selling the issue, but they said the demo only goes to subscribers. Nintendo doesn't often release demos though, so this seems a little wierd. Were they just trying to fuck with me or something? Anyone hear about this?

Also, Cynical:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/mcbilly/brawl.png

I imagine this is one of those equivocation problems, where people just hear what they want to.

Bigfoot

12-22-2007, 07:36 PM

WHY
if ANYTHING something like a belmont would fit as a 3rd party character
megaman does NOT

WHY woudln't Megaman FIT?

Scufo

12-22-2007, 07:43 PM

Yeah you're gonna have to present quite an argument to convince me that a character doesn't "fit", atma. I think Snake already proved that they can come up with a moveset for just about anybody and make it work. I personally don't care about Megaman, but I don't see how his inclusion would cause any harm.

Also thanks for the clarification, #Az. Kinda figured this thread would have grown by like 20 pages since yesterday if it was true.

Rambo

12-22-2007, 08:17 PM

megaman does NOT

Shhhhh!
..... Oddllama will hear you....

Lord.Roderick.i

12-22-2007, 08:24 PM

Lucas' nemesis = Porky
Ike's nemesis = Dark Knight or something like that
Samus' nemesis = Ridley or Dark Samus

Personally, I think it'd be cool to see Dark Samus as a playable. She's have Samus' weight and size, but her jumps and entire moveset would be different.

For starters, she floats a lot like Mewtwo. Secondly, in the first battle against her in Prime 2, she showcases about 3 or so moves that could be specials: A scatter laser shot, an invulnerability aura (could be a bit like Nayru's Love), and a move where she turns into a ball of phazon and launches into the ground (could be her 3rd jump). I personally believe she has much potential in that regard.
I totally agree with you. DS has great potential and I'd love to see her/it as a playable character.
I think Ridley and the Space Pirates would better fit as ATs

Strike911

12-23-2007, 03:16 AM

Something official about Mega Man and smash Bros straight from Keiji Inafune! It is sad.

During a question/answer session in the latest Bionic Commando podcast, Keiji Inafune lets us know that Mega Man isn’t in Brawl. His answer is pretty fun, and includes a little teasing throughout.

"Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It’s a great series…but, Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call."

The truth or a tease?

I seem to remember Sega saying something eerily similar to this about Sonic a few months ago. But is it too late for Nintendo add a new character under the current schedule for release, even if Nintendo wanted Mega Man in there?

Maybe downloadable content?

Moseph

12-23-2007, 03:28 AM

During a question/answer session in the latest Bionic Commando podcast, Keiji Inafune lets us know that Mega Man isn’t in Brawl. His answer is pretty fun, and includes a little teasing throughout.

"Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It’s a great series…but, Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call."
When the Dojo announces Mega Man, it will be a surprise for everyone! :tomatoface:

Steben

12-23-2007, 03:38 AM

Maybe downloadable content?

lol

'Sad that my first reaction to anyone suggesting DLC from Nintendo is laughter. I really hope Wii Ware makes me a believer, though...

atmuh

12-23-2007, 03:49 AM

dlc on the wii is a joke
i thought it was hilarious when activision announced that they are gonna bring dlc to guitar hero 3 for wii but they then said we have no idea how the heck we'll be able to do that

Triad Orion

12-23-2007, 04:05 AM

Something official about Mega Man and smash Bros straight from Keiji Inafune! It is sad.

The truth or a tease?

I seem to remember Sega saying something eerily similar to this about Sonic a few months ago. But is it too late for Nintendo add a new character under the current schedule for release, even if Nintendo wanted Mega Man in there?

Maybe downloadable content?

I dunno. This sounds like Inafune was going "nudge nudge wink wink." It remains a reasonable possibility that Mega Man is not in Brawl, but I'm still not totally convinced. If a random guy from a Japan only game from the N64 makes it as an assist trophy, the idea of Mega Man still possibly being in the game doesn't seem too farfetched.

By the way, when was that last podcast? Like, recently?

atmuh

12-23-2007, 04:11 AM

if by now nintendo didnt even CONTACT capcom for megaman there is basically no chance
the jap version in released in a month, which means it has to be completed really soon
so for them to add in a new character NOW is probably not gonna happen

Ralphis

12-23-2007, 04:16 AM

By the way, when was that last podcast? Like, recently?

I'm pretty certain that it was on or right around the 20th anniversary.

If you listen to the podcast, the way that the translator speaks the comment makes me still believe that Megaman may be there. It sounded almost like a "I can't say anything, but I'll laugh about it!"

Also, for those who are saying Megaman doesn't belong in here and that he doesn't accurately represent Nintendo, he was in a SHOW ABOUT NINTENDO! He was a main character in Captain N if I remember. I'm pretty sure Megaman is one of THE Nintendo staples. If you ask some person who isn't a geek like us about video games, they will know who you are talking about if you mention Sonic, Mario, or Megaman. I bet a good majority of them would have no clue who Simon Belmont is (not that I don't want him in Brawl, quite the opposite). If any 3rd party character deserved a spot in this game it was Megaman, much more than Sonic or Snake, and that's regardless of if you love him or hate him.

With that said, the game is still going to be amazing either way and I hope to see Geno in some capacity.

atmuh

12-23-2007, 04:24 AM

I'm pretty sure Megaman is one of THE Nintendo staples.

maybe 10 years ago

Bigfoot

12-23-2007, 04:25 AM

ANYTHING can happen. It's SMASH Bros. we're TALKING about here.

atmuh

12-23-2007, 04:26 AM

i love you too bigfoot

Bigfoot

12-23-2007, 04:28 AM

Sorry, I just love how you throw random emphasis on words in all of your posts :P

Ralphis

12-23-2007, 04:34 AM

maybe 10 years ago

Ice Climbers
Game and Watch
Marth
Pit

I was wondering if you could tell me what their relevance is today? And even what someone like Solid Snake's relevance is EVER. Just because you don't LIKE Megaman doesn't mean that he isn't worthy of making the roster. I'm not saying you have to like him, but what I am saying is that you're wrong.

For a game all about fan service and reaching back into the NES/SNES eras, I think your "10 years ago" comment only helps solidify my point. Thank you!

atmuh

12-23-2007, 04:37 AM

Ice Climbers
Game and Watch
Marth
Pit

I was wondering if you could tell me what their relevance is today? And even what someone like Solid Snake's relevance is EVER. Just because you don't LIKE Megaman doesn't mean that he isn't worthy of making the roster. I'm not saying you have to like him, but what I am saying is that you're wrong.

For a game all about fan service and reaching back into the NES/SNES eras, I think your "10 years ago" comment only helps solidify my point. Thank you!

all those characters were exclusive to nintendo and never went to another console
take a look at hmmm every significant mega man game after x3
what consoles were they on?

snake is there because kojima wanted him in melee and nintendo liked the idea but it was too late so they put it on hold

sonics there because segas sold out in every direction possible because they realize that they suck balls at making games and need money wherever they can get it

Ralphis

12-23-2007, 04:41 AM

all those characters were exclusive to nintendo and never went to another console
take a look at hmmm every significant mega man game after x3
what consoles were they on?

snake is there because kojima wanted him in melee and nintendo liked the idea but it was too late so they put it on hold

sonics there because segas sold out in every direction possible because they realize that they suck balls at making games and need money wherever they can get it

What consoles were they on? hmm...well I guess you do have 4 X games and 1 exclusive Megaman Legends game (2) on the playstation...

and Megaman Zero on GBA, and Megaman ZX and some new stuff on DS!

So I guess you're right, that's around 5 PSX megaman games and around 1590592 Nintendo Megaman games.

Why wouldn't Nintendo like the idea of Megaman in the game when it has so much more to do with the legacy and rise of Nintendo consoles? There has been a Megaman game released on EVERY Nintendo console ever, the same is not true with Sonic or Snake.

atmuh

12-23-2007, 04:48 AM

and Megaman Zero on GBA, and Megaman ZX and some new stuff on DS!

i said significant

RyuDeathstrike

12-23-2007, 06:05 AM

I personally believe that Megaman went down hill after his(early) leave from the Nintendo systems, so there were no 'significant' titles after the orriginals. I also believe that he is starting to make a comeback with the GBA/DS titles that keep coming out. All in all, I've known MM all my life, but I've never even played the game with Belmont in it.

MM ftw. Thx.

#Az

12-23-2007, 02:46 PM

I think you're missing the point a little with these "tease" comments, Atma.

Don't you think Keiji Inafune would know that is it indeed too late to add Megaman? I hardly see your judgement dwarfing his, and that's what makes it sound to me like Megaman is still very much a possibility.

I'm not a Megaman fan, purely because I haven't played any of the games, but I'm just struggling to justify any other newcomers I can think of. Considering the nature of newcomers already confirmed (Pit, MetaKnight and DeDeDe, all hailing back from early Nintendo consoles [Snake too, though that's probably moot]), Megaman seems logical to me. Dismissing it as not even a possibility and arguing he isn't suitable just isn't the case.

Eulogic

12-23-2007, 03:30 PM

Recent Nintendo systems haven't really been known for their third party games, so it is unsurprising that third party selections would be chosen from earlier games or characters now better known on other systems.

atmuh

12-24-2007, 07:05 AM

Pit, MetaKnight and DeDeDe

how the balls does that correlate to mega man
pit was on nes and never went to another console
metaknight was snes thats it
dedede is everything kirby

the later 2 are made by HAL who also makes smash so um thats as first party as it gets
megaman is not only completely 3rd party but also has been on playstation consoles for a while now

also being that megaman x 4 is like the best one ever id say thats pretty significant

Arek the Absolute

12-24-2007, 07:09 AM

how the balls does that correlate to mega man
pit was on nes and never went to another console
metaknight was snes thats it
dedede is everything kirby

the later 2 are made by HAL who also makes smash so um thats as first party as it gets
megaman is not only completely 3rd party but also has been on playstation consoles for a while now

also being that megaman x 4 is like the best one ever id say thats pretty significant

wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

atmuh

12-24-2007, 07:10 AM

uhhhhh wow...

Inimitable

12-24-2007, 07:11 AM

Best Update Ever?1/1??!

Mastertoku

12-24-2007, 07:11 AM

Oh boy. F-flab.

Suppose we're getting anything special tomorrow? Being what day it is and all?

Arek the Absolute

12-24-2007, 07:12 AM

everyone disregard atmas comments from here on out
lol metaknight was just on snes and thats it
you uneducated dullard

atmuh

12-24-2007, 07:35 AM

which kirby did i miss???
well he was in air ride i think but that doesnt really count even though air ride was an excellent game it wasnt much of an adventurey thingamabob

Codycrusader

12-24-2007, 07:40 AM

They couldn't do this with the Fuion Suit for Samus why...?

Anyway, this update is cool, I like the old Wario better (his new clothes make him look like he's in the Village People) and the flab is just... wow, too much detail

RTYPEpilot

12-24-2007, 07:51 AM

They couldn't do this with the Fuion Suit for Samus why...?

I am also bewildered. I had hoped they'd do something similar with all the characters, but I never saw it, so I thought that was that... Now this?

<---Confused.

Hope the rest of the week is a bit more exciting.

Arek the Absolute

12-24-2007, 08:02 AM

which kirby did i miss???
well he was in air ride i think but that doesnt really count even though air ride was an excellent game it wasnt much of an adventurey thingamabob

Kirby's Adventure
Kirby & the Amazing Mirror
Kirby Squeak Squad

Strike911

12-24-2007, 09:22 AM

Wario Alone. That sucks. I hope that's just a translation issue.

I hope other characters get this treatement... even if their movesets are identical to others, I'd love to see the clones in there rather than not at all (as alternate colors).

Admiral_C

12-24-2007, 03:54 PM

He said, "This outfit appears after the six standard color variations."

So... we got more color options this time around.

@atma: Educate! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaknight

Dunther

12-24-2007, 04:45 PM

Yeah, classic Wario costume! Now I'm sure that I will use him :P

Airwalker

12-24-2007, 05:19 PM

Yeah, we could use this alternate costume business elsewhere.

Dr. Mario (if not own character)
Cel-Shaded Link
N64 princess Zelda
Cel-Shaded Zelda
Female Pokemon Trainer/ Rival Pokemon Trainer
Zero Suit Samus in a 2-piece bikini
Diddy Kong, cross dressed as Dixie Kong
Old Snake
Falco form of Fox (If Falco is not his own character)
Heck, throw in Peppy and Slippy too

etc...

Thalzon

12-24-2007, 05:54 PM

Dixie wouldn't have the same movelist as Diddy by a long shot, and Cel-Shaded Link is too small compared to TP Link.

If we're just going for costumes with no movelist changes, Mario could have dozens of costumes. Link could have the Zora and Magic armour, Zelda could have her cloaked self, Fox could have his Dinosaur Planet outfit, Samus could have the Fusion Suit or the basic Chozo Suit, and Ike could possibly have his older form (from the latest FE game).

But I'd think making other characters into costumes is a step too far removed from this.

Rambo

12-24-2007, 05:56 PM

Yeah, we could use this alternate costume business elsewhere.

Diddy Kong, cross dressed as Dixie Kong
Falco form of Fox (If Falco is not his own character)
Heck, throw in Peppy and Slippy too

etc...

I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel about fox wearing the skins of his comrades..
And Diddy as Dixie? What the shit?

EDIT: Beaten...

Flaming Wuzzle

12-24-2007, 10:25 PM

Wario Alone. That sucks. I hope that's just a translation issue.

It's not. All of them basically say Wario's the only one that gets an alternate costume with its own colors.

Strike911

12-24-2007, 10:36 PM

I think I'd be okay with alternate 'costumes' that are different characters altogether from a similar series... especially as super secret unlocks. The Starfox team make sense to me if Falco isn't his own character anymore, as does Liquid Snake and Old Snake. Plus Mario has tons of outfits that have never been exploited (cough Tanooki cough). So does Link. I think I'd be okay seeing characters like Lucas switch to Ness if Ness isn't playable himself; Heck a Raichu variant of Pikachu; Ike could do a whole slew of FE characters; I'd love to see a zillion different sets even if they don't have their own movesets, because it's better to see more characters included than left out entirely.

Here's hoping there are more characters that can do this. :) In fact, for characters from the Old N64 smash bros, I wouldn't mind seeing old retro N64 polygonal models as alternates; might be a fun nod to the old school crowd.

linkspast

12-24-2007, 10:43 PM

In fact, for characters from the Old N64 smash bros, I wouldn't mind seeing old retro N64 polygonal models as alternates; might be a fun nod to the old school crowd.

I always wanted to see an 8-bit and 16-bit modes.

Dexie

12-25-2007, 12:41 AM

how the balls does that correlate to mega man
pit was on nes and never went to another console
metaknight was snes thats it
dedede is everything kirby

Pit had a sequel on Game Boy.

And Metaknight has been on GCN, GBA, and DS, not to mention the Kirby anime.

Lord.Roderick.i

12-25-2007, 12:45 AM

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY WARRIO ALONE?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boo to Nintendo /cry

atmuh

12-25-2007, 07:03 AM

good music!

Steben

12-25-2007, 07:06 AM

Woo. I will accept this Christmas gift of the Angel Island Zone theme. Also.

It is "Angel Island Zone." It is a song from "Sonic The Hedgehog 3," in which Knuckles first appeared.

Knuckles confirmed?!?! Heh.

Codycrusader

12-25-2007, 07:12 AM

Knuckles confirmed?!?! Heh.

You beat me to it, but anyway

Final Smash: Whoopty Doo
Song: Sweet Remix

Strike911

12-25-2007, 07:14 AM

Oh man... Angel Island!!!!! ^_^_^_^_^_^_^

This song reminds me of being in 3rd grade!!

Brawl is like my entire childhood, and adulthood mixed together. I cannot wait. ^_^

SilverStar

12-25-2007, 07:24 AM

You know, I'm probably the only one who thinks this.. but what if the alternate "costumes" for Sonic are actually Silver, Shadow.. and Knuckles?

Linkjing Donuts

12-25-2007, 07:30 AM

Knuckles would probably have his own moveset, and most likely have the ability to glide like Pit, Charizard, and Metaknight

Antipode

12-25-2007, 07:38 AM

I missed the Wario update, but now that I've seen it I'll definitely say it's one of my favorite updates yet. I was really hoping I could switch to classic Wario, and I've always been one of the only advocates. Also, this Angel Island song is the first I've been totally satisfied with (aside from the DK one, I think). Awesome!