Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Rambo]

<<positive feedback>>

...*BOOOOOOM*

[Triad Orion]

I was skeptical at first of the music update (I expected Green Hill Zone, truthfully), but damned if they didn't make it sound really cool and Smash-worthy. I likes it.

[Eulogic]

This was one of the Sonic songs I hoped would make it in. Of course, most of the songs on my list were from Sonic 3.

[mattycat900]

I'm happy with any love they show to the classic sonic games. Hopefully this is an indication of a sonic 3 level! Regardless though, smashbros.com is almost an alternative to ocremix now becuase of all the songs, albeit with less quality and quantity ;)

[Sengin]

Glad to hear that Angel Island is in, but they seriously need to give the Hydrocity zones some lovin'.

[Triad Orion]

Glad to hear that Angel Island is in, but they seriously need to give the Hydrocity zones some lovin'.

*Scruffy (Futurama) Voice* Second.

[Arek the Absolute]

This was one of the Sonic songs I hoped would make it in. Of course, most of the songs on my list were from Sonic 3.

I totally agree. Sonic 3, at least in my opinion, had the best soundtrack out of all the other ones.

[atmuh]

sonic 2 had the best if ya ask me

[Triad Orion]

See, the problem is, every numbered Sonic game on the Genesis had a memorable, catchy soundtrack. I have a hard time picking a "best" one because there were few tracks that sucked in general. Hell, even 3D Blast had a few really good songs in it.

[The Author]

Sonic 2, Metropolis Zone for the win.

[Triad Orion]

(Completely ignoring what I said earlier about picking a best...)

I see your Metropolis Zone and raise you a Chemical Plant Zone. :P

[Arek the Absolute]

I see both of your cruddy songs and raise you the whole S&K3 ost.

Not one song in that game sucked.

[TheCatPhysician]

sorry guys


sonic 2, underground mines or whatever that level was called.

this thread is now about sonic games and their music.

also, cocks.

[Triad Orion]

sorry guys


sonic 2, underground mines or whatever that level was called.



Mystic Cave Zone.

And this thread will be back on track by tomorrow anyway. No worries.

[Eulogic]

I see both of your cruddy songs and raise you the whole S&K3 ost.

Not one song in that game sucked.

I agree.

Green Hill Zone from Sonic 1 will probably make it in because it is so classic.

[Drack]

I see both of your cruddy songs and raise you the whole S&K3 ost.

Not one song in that game sucked.

Hear hear! I hope that "many songs per stage" feature is used heavily with respect to S3&K songs.

However, I disagree on one small point. I disliked the music in Carnival Night Zone.

[mattycat900]

I disliked Carnival Nite Zone for a totally unrelated reason ;)

[Eulogic]

it's the best stage and music

[Steben]

Are they going to include any original tracks in the game as well? I want to say that I heard something along those lines, but I may be mistaken.

If so, they could easily have a lot of music in this game, just by copy-pasting classic tunes that didn't get the remix treatment.

[Scufo]

Are they going to include any original tracks in the game as well? I want to say that I heard something along those lines, but I may be mistaken.

If so, they could easily have a lot of music in this game, just by copy-pasting classic tunes that didn't get the remix treatment.
Yep.

10char

[Airwalker]

Are they going to include any original tracks in the game as well? I want to say that I heard something along those lines, but I may be mistaken.

If so, they could easily have a lot of music in this game, just by copy-pasting classic tunes that didn't get the remix treatment.
answer: ........
Oh... You can, of course, enjoy the original version in this game as well.

[SwordBreaker]

I'm seriously WOWED by the Angel Island Zone remix. Excellent work there, Jun.

Indeed, stuff from Sonic 2 would rock. Chemical Plant Zone and Metropolis Zone rock remixes FTW.

[linkspast]

So now its also a pokemon game... cool..

[Thalzon]

Well, thank goodness you don't need to collect every one on your Subspace Emissary playthrough. I bet certain event matches will act as Boss Rushes.

[Makai]

For some reason, the boss fight with Rayquaza looks unexciting. : P

[SwordBreaker]

You've gotta be kidding me; just when I think things couldn't get any better than this, we now have trophy stands. This will be quite a challenge for perfectionists!

[Codycrusader]

I'm hyped to kick Ray's ass now after seeing that screen. Finally, a legendary pokemon that can I can kill :twisted:.... am I the only one who thinks that would be fun?

[Oddllama]

this thread is now about sonic games and their music.

also, cocks.
Guys, we are ignoring half of this conversation.

I think the best cocks are black cocks, but then again, I am not very creative.

[Ray Falling]

I'm hyped to kick Ray's ass now after seeing that screen...

What did I do? ;_;

Ehehehe.

Just when I thought it couldn't get better, it did! :) It'll be quite a challenge to get all them boss trophies which only adds more to the replay value :) A very good thing these days what with all that crap that doesn't last for more than 5 hours.

Only a monumental error in the gameplay/control/balance side of things can utterly ruin this game now n_n; if that happens, I'll never play a game again *lie-detector explodes*

[BeleagueredandBeset]

I'm hoping for some serious Pokemon Battle music during that Rayquaza fight.

[Mastertoku]

Man, Nintendo knows how to feed off of my innate desire to catch 'em all. I wonder how often Trophy Stands will appear?...

And as long as we're picking favorite Sonic songs... I'll go, as I always do, with boss themes. (preferebly the one from Sonic 2.) But I don't doubt they'll help themselves to some modern Sonic, so my pick for the recents is Sonic Advance's Secret Agent Zone or whatever it's called.

[Neo Samus]

That Angel Island mix is.....can't think of an appropriate word.......one of the best I've heard on the Dojo so far.

[Linkjing Donuts]

what would have been brilliant is if you could capture enemies in whatever pose they were in when you threw the stand at them

[Bigfoot]

Nintendo needs to get on the damn phone and make a phone call! :P

http://gonintendo.com/?p=32159

[I-n-j-i-n]

Puzzle Bobble ripoff.

[Codycrusader]

This is interesting, looks fun.

Medli trophy uhh?

WW Link Confirmed!!!

[Thalzon]

Nintendo needs to get on the damn phone and make a phone call! :P

http://gonintendo.com/?p=32159

One of the replies has it right:

"That's because they already called him about Zero." or something like that. Megaman Zero would be vastly preferred to the OTHER option of BN Megaman. *shudder*

[RTYPEpilot]

This is interesting, looks fun.

Medli trophy uhh?

WW Link Confirmed!!!

That would be pretty cool... Too bad that doesn't actually mean he's confirmed.

I just like that fact that it's something more to do in the game.
Mini games having to do with other aspects of a game are a good thing, especially when a mini-game like this one looks like it will be incredibly fun and increasingly difficult.
It does look like it's similar to Bust-a-Move, but it also looks like it has a little bit of Missile Command and [insert SHMUP here].
I really can't wait to play this.
I definitely know I'm gonna have Spectator Mode running almost constantly at any time that I'm not actually Brawling!

[Drack]

Not a game making update, but not bad either. Somehow I think it will take quite a bit longer to fully unlock Brawl than Melee.

[Mastertoku]

Well, that is full of nift, thus making it nifty.

[RTYPEpilot]

One of the replies has it right:

"That's because they already called him about Zero." or something like that. Megaman Zero would be vastly preferred to the OTHER option of BN Megaman. *shudder*

I might get some nasty looks for this, but I actually thought MM:ZX would be a cool option for his inclusion.

[RTYPEpilot]

Not a game making update, but not bad either. Somehow I think it will take quite a bit longer to fully unlock Brawl than Melee.

I certainly hope so.

[Triad Orion]

I might get some nasty looks for this, but I actually thought MM:ZX would be a cool option for his inclusion.

ZX wasn't a bad Mega Man game by any means, but I think that the Biometal Mega Men don't really represent the series all that well, but that would make for some fascinating potential in Brawl, I'd admit.

I'm suspiscious still about Mega Man's appearance. At this point I'm mostly doubting it, but the tongue in cheek manner of which Inafune addressed the matter is still suspicious, especially considering Sonic got the same treatment. Well, we'll find out soon, one way or the other.

[RTYPEpilot]

ZX wasn't a bad Mega Man game by any means, but I think that the Biometal Mega Men don't really represent the series all that well, but that would make for some fascinating potential in Brawl, I'd admit.

I'm suspiscious still about Mega Man's appearance. At this point I'm mostly doubting it, but the tongue in cheek manner of which Inafune addressed the matter is still suspicious, especially considering Sonic got the same treatment. Well, we'll find out soon, one way or the other.

Yeah, I thought the combination of sword and gun attacks would prove to be very formidable. I know what you mean about the Biometal though...

I hate to compare this all to politics, but Inafune has done what others in the game industry has become very adept to doing to keep information secret; saying just the right thing so as to not confirm anything, but at the same time cover himself should events go the other way.
He's telling us "no", but hinting "yes". Just have to wait and see...

*sigh*

[Linkjing Donuts]

i'ts too late for megaman. you've got, what, less than two months before release? Packaging and shipping will eat up a month, and any time other than that isn't enough to build the models, create the animations, and add any megaman story to the subspace emissary (because you know they wouldn't pull in a 3rd party character without using him to his fullest)

[RTYPEpilot]

i'ts too late for megaman. you've got, what, less than two months before release? Packaging and shipping will eat up a month, and any time other than that isn't enough to build the models, create the animations, and add any megaman story to the subspace emissary (because you know they wouldn't pull in a 3rd party character without using him to his fullest)

Oh yeah. I'm definitely aware of what's required, and how much time it takes for everything to be completed and polished to the same sheen as the rest of the game.
Trust me. I'm not holding my breath, it's only somewhat saddening.

When exactly was that podcast done, anyway...?

[Cortani]

i'ts too late for megaman. you've got, what, less than two months before release? Packaging and shipping will eat up a month, and any time other than that isn't enough to build the models, create the animations, and add any megaman story to the subspace emissary (because you know they wouldn't pull in a 3rd party character without using him to his fullest)

January 24th is less than one month away, actually. Besides, why would an unrevealed character have to be built in the last phase of development? By your reasoning there are no more characters.

Not saying "clearly Megaman is in", just that your logic is a bit wonky.

Anyway, here's hoping he's bluffing.

[Aninymouse]

This has been a great week thus far. The new launcher minigame looks like a lot of fun to me.

[Ralphis]

That interview was done in the beginning of November but that's besides the point. There could be a gag order on Capcom employees about it and he could have been in for a long time. Who's to say? Who really knows. None of us is the answer!

I guess we'll find out soon enough though

[linkspast]

I’m gonna have you play every inch of this game!Best Idea ever....

[Lord.Roderick.i]

Man, I love this new minigame. It's gonna make it lots of fun to get the trophies.
And about Mman, he could have been added a while ago, but kept as a secret from us. Or not at all too.
Im 90% that he wont be in the game though.

[Red Shadow]

After all this time I still wonder whether or not Olimar is going to be a playable character

[Codycrusader]

If they put Olimar in he'll either be a really unique and cheap character or a rip off of the Ice Climbers with the other dude forgot his name. If they were to include any thing from Pikmin, they should make the Pikmin items that you can throw around and make them pick up your enemy and carry them or throw them off the edge. And speaking of items, Pokeball = Shiny pokemon every once in a great while

[Hector]

How about replace the fish pokemon with suffocated pokemon.

[Codycrusader]

That's plan B

EDIT: Thought I'd edit instead of double post but HOLY CRAP, THE ITEM IS AWESOME AS HELL!!!!! I have fond memories of Dragoon and Hydra so this means alot to me...

[linkspast]

Last update till the 7th... I wonder why?

Other than that its been a good week for updates.

[Codycrusader]

I just noticed that, DAMMIT!!! The happiness that Dragoon brought me has been crushed:cry:. It's either a break or they are making last minute tweaks and don't want to update something that might be updated:P Ma..maybe it's Captain Falcon!!!

[Bigfoot]

Last update till the 7th... I wonder why?

Other than that its been a good week for updates.

My guess is vacation.

[Mastertoku]

Of course. Posting updates is hard work, after all.

D'you suppose the first post when he gets back will be a really good one, so as to spur us all on again?...

[Strike911]

OMG! Kirby Air Ride FTW!

Alright.... and an item that feels fresh and completely new!!!

The dragoon should be fun to mess around with, and kudos to sakurai for adding in game mechanics that are outside the box and new to the smash bros franchise.

I wonder if we'll see any more unconventional items like this. I gotta be honest, I kind of like the idea of collecting pieces of items for a mega weapon... I approve!




.... a one week break.... hmm... okay.

[CSmith]

My guess is vacation.

Most of Japan is out for New Year's until the 4th. Guess Nintendo gets that Friday off too.

[Aninymouse]

I'm... not sure how I can survive for a whole week without the DOJO updates... oh man... ugh.

[HideousBeing]

I just noticed that, DAMMIT!!! The happiness that Dragoon brought me has been crushed:cry:. It's either a break or they are making last minute tweaks and don't want to update something that might be updated:P Ma..maybe it's Captain Falcon!!!That'd be nice. They need an entire week to prepare for the awesome announcement of Captain Falcon. Seriously, I can't wait to see how he looks on this game.

[Steben]

My theory is that they're just stalling, since they're scratching around for updates as it is. That's five updates on the save screen ("You can save your data in this game!") that we don't have to put up with. ;)

[Drack]

Interesting tidbit of information, though I don't know how trustworthy the source is.

http://www.wiipals.net/Forum/showthread.php?p=200592#post200592

With a lot more credibility is the official Japanese site posting the boxart: http://www.smashbros.com/jp/package/img/package.jpg
Thoughts?

[Codycrusader]

Maybe he just thought "Fuck it, everyone wants to bitch about the lame updates, so I'm gonna stop it as punishment" doubt it, but it's possible, if Sakurai is a douche that is.

EDIT: Nevermind, Drack set it all straight

[Admiral_C]

Interesting tidbit of information, though I don't know how trustworthy the source is.

http://www.wiipals.net/Forum/showthread.php?p=200592#post200592

Thoughts?

One of the people in that thread asked "who r all the characters on the image"

That's just sad...

[Neonlare]

That is an awesome box-art piece. It seems like a poster you'd expect for a film or such D:.

We need more Meteos BTW.

[Red Shadow]

so now we're up to a confirmed two items from kirby air ride

awesome

i think im gonna go play that for a bit

[friendlyHunter]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2153/brawlboxaj1.jpg

ZOMG Megaman confirmed.

[Neo Samus]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2153/brawlboxaj1.jpg

ZOMG Megaman confirmed.

NO WAI! (10char)

[RTYPEpilot]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2153/brawlboxaj1.jpg

ZOMG Megaman confirmed.

Careful with that code... [FIXED]

[EDIT]: Huh... Looks like it just didn't load the first time. Bizarre.

[GenericDerrick]

Good god, I freakin' love Kirby Air Ride, I am so glad that they added something from it. Dragoon was the shit, I loved collecting the pieces in City Trial. Hydra was a freakin' beast though, it plowed through everything. :razz: I approve of this update.

[Ralphis]

I'm not sure if this has been talked about in the thread so far but it's the weekend so let's take it in another direction for a moment.

Thus far, everyone (including me), has pretty much said characters like Megaman and a Belmont should or probably will make it in. However, I remember a while ago Sakurai said that he intended to have more American representation in Brawl. So who do you think could be a third party rep for the Americans?

One character which immediately comes to mind, which in a way represented Sony back during the PSX/N64 era, is Crash Bandicoot. Nowadays he's made it to the Nintendo systems from Cube, GBA, DS, Wii, etc, so he definitely has quite a few Nintendo games under his belt. It would certainly round out the Sega/Nintendo/PSX rivalry of the 90s.

I think he's a pretty lame character on a personal note.

Also Earthworm Jim (please).

So what do you guys think? What American (or maybe even European; Ubisoft) characters would you like to see or think have a shot making it into Brawl?

[Neonlare]

I'm not sure if this has been talked about in the thread so far but it's the weekend so let's take it in another direction for a moment.

Thus far, everyone (including me), has pretty much said characters like Megaman and a Belmont should or probably will make it in. However, I remember a while ago Sakurai said that he intended to have more American representation in Brawl. So who do you think could be a third party rep for the Americans?

One character which immediately comes to mind, which in a way represented Sony back during the PSX/N64 era, is Crash Bandicoot. Nowadays he's made it to the Nintendo systems from Cube, GBA, DS, Wii, etc, so he definitely has quite a few Nintendo games under his belt. It would certainly round out the Sega/Nintendo/PSX rivalry of the 90s.

I think he's a pretty lame character on a personal note.

Also Earthworm Jim (please).

So what do you guys think? What American (or maybe even European; Ubisoft) characters would you like to see or think have a shot making it into Brawl?

Master Chief?

[Eulogic]

A boy, potentially with his blob.

[linkspast]

A boy, potentially with his blob.

I heard they made out like kings... with a years supply of jelly beans.

[Thalzon]

How about a Japanese-developed game that was never released in Japan? That's right -- STARTROPICS.

Mike Jones has had 2 games, man. C'mon, Nintendo, pleeeeeeease?

[FREAK55]

How about a Japanese-developed game that was never released in Japan? That's right -- STARTROPICS.

Mike Jones has had 2 games, man. C'mon, Nintendo, pleeeeeeease?

That would be freakin' awsome. And I think that it could work too. Mike had plenty of weapons that he used throughout the two games.

[RealFolkBlues]

Mike Jones has had 2 games, man. C'mon, Nintendo, pleeeeeeease?

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/09/36/24/94/0009362494002_500X500.jpg

[Antipode]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2153/brawlboxaj1.jpg

ZOMG Megaman confirmed.

Hahahaha very nice. That game had the best boxart ever...

[Linkjing Donuts]

I'm not sure if this has been talked about in the thread so far but it's the weekend so let's take it in another direction for a moment.

Thus far, everyone (including me), has pretty much said characters like Megaman and a Belmont should or probably will make it in. However, I remember a while ago Sakurai said that he intended to have more American representation in Brawl. So who do you think could be a third party rep for the Americans?

One character which immediately comes to mind, which in a way represented Sony back during the PSX/N64 era, is Crash Bandicoot. Nowadays he's made it to the Nintendo systems from Cube, GBA, DS, Wii, etc, so he definitely has quite a few Nintendo games under his belt. It would certainly round out the Sega/Nintendo/PSX rivalry of the 90s.

I think he's a pretty lame character on a personal note.

Also Earthworm Jim (please).

So what do you guys think? What American (or maybe even European; Ubisoft) characters would you like to see or think have a shot making it into Brawl?
american elite beat agents

[Strike911]

Western characters (non Japanese) ?

hmm.... that is a real tough one... besides the aforementioned Earthworm Jim (and Crash)... I can't really think of any good characters from Western studios... besides some Mortal Kombat characters...

StarCraft was on the N64... would it be weird to see a Space Marine show up? Or a Zergling? Wouldn't that be weird!!

Hmm... what else? I'm having a real difficult time thinking of some... *HMM*

I guess technically Diddy Kong (and Donkey Kong's representation) could be considered western from Rare's influence on the evolution of Donkey Kong's persona.... man... what a toughie. I just cannot for the life of me, think of any Western characters that have been on a Nintendo system...

Rayman, maybe? Spiderman? Batman? Err, I don't know how licensing would work with that... I doubt any comic book superheroes would ever show up, although it would be cool. Used to be a lot of StarWars stuff from back in the day............... but that'd be weird.

hmmmm....... video game characters..... *thinks really hard*

.... oh to hell with this.... Japan is so xenophobic anyway, Sakurai probably meant for Japanese characters that Westerners are aware of. BUT STILL, there are tons of Japan only characters showing up... hmm...

Nintendo did have something going with EA, like how Mario, Peach, and Luigi showed up in NBA Street.... maybe some EA property will show up... *shrugs* but all they do is license crap ... I can't think....

EDIT: AH HA! SAM FISHER. *whew*

[Kureejii Lea]

american elite beat agents

Chieftain for Brawl!

...man, what an odd mental image.

[Thalzon]

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/09/36/24/94/0009362494002_500X500.jpg

Well, the game COULD use some more racial representation...

[RealFolkBlues]

Well, the game COULD use some more racial representation...

Shadow? (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=140)

Thanks for quoting that, though. I thought it was an okay joke that noone noticed because it ended a page.

[Codycrusader]

Guitar Hero was on Wii so I dunno Pandora or Lou could possibly be an American character... Tira or Ivy from Soul Calibur could be a character too. RealFolkBlues... your sig is made of awesome just because it's the first Bebop one I've sen with Jet in it.

EDIT: Nevermind about SC, I just remembered that it's Japan made, still they'd be cool

[RealFolkBlues]

Guitar Hero was on Wii so I dunno Pandora or Lou could possibly be an American character... Tira or Ivy from Soul Calibur could be a character too. RealFolkBlues... your sig is made of awesome just because it's the first Bebop one I've sen with Jet in it.

EDIT: Nevermind about SC, I just remembered that it's Japan made, still they'd be cool

A couple things. First, thank you sir for the compliment. Jet is NARROWLY my second favorite character in the series. Your sig made me and a co-worker lol pretty hard.

Secondly, Nintendo has a controlling portion of NamcoBandai's stock, so a Soul Calibur character isn't out of the question, especially after Link having been in SC2. Granted, it wouldn't really qualify as a western-produced character, but I would love to wreck somebody's world with Astaroth or Nightmare.

[JCvgluvr]

So, after lurking for quite some time (a few months, I believe), I've finally gone and registered. Can't wait to argue the finer points of SSBB with you guys!

Wow, this thread has been great. Its basically a summary of all the craziness that happens on the Gamefaqs SSBB message board (without a majority of the stupidity).

Before I say anything else, let me state that if Mega Man classic is in Brawl, and has the ability to gain a new power by KO-ing an enemy (so he doesn't copy like Kirby does), this game will be the single best game of this, and perhaps any generation!!!

On the latest subject...american reps...I really can't think of any that deserve it. Sorry!

[atmuh]

Before I say anything else, let me state that if Mega Man classic is in Brawl, and has the ability to gain a new power by KO-ing an enemy (so he doesn't copy like Kirby does), this game will be the single best game of this, and perhaps any generation!!!


having a character in a game doesnt make it the greatest game ever if they somehow screwed up mechanics they could have enough characters to make every fanboy in the world wet himself but suck

[Zup]

having a character in a game doesnt make it the greatest game ever if they somehow screwed up mechanics they could have enough characters to make every fanboy in the world wet himself but suck

Right, because all evidence so far shows us sloppy programming and poor game mechanics. Plus, both previous games were horrible.


[/Stupidity]

[atmuh]

no but i am just trying to convey the fact that the inclusion of a single character does in no way cause this game to be anywhere closer to perfection than it would be without that


also hey look 1 week no updates
im probably late on that

well hopefully therell be a leak of the jap version before then so we can know EVERYTHING about the game

[Drack]

Looks like the online testing has finally tapered down to zero.

This convinces me a lot more than the japanese image that Brawl is done.
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~schapman/brawl.png

[Codycrusader]

Custom Graphs ehh? Good enough!

No seriously, (almost) ONE MORE MONTH BEFORE BRAWL COMES OUT!!! I just thought about Brawl and I got hyper. But anyway, if Mega Man is in Brawl, I won't use him, IMO he's a queer. If they are or shall I say did include any more 3rd parties, it should be NiGHTS, seen the game at Blockbuster today and s/he looked like s/he'd be an interesting character. Or Leon or Ada from RE4 since, you know it did make the Gamecube a lil more famous I guess. Or the dude from Geist.... he'd be better as an AT.

[RTYPEpilot]

So, after lurking for quite some time (a few months, I believe), I've finally gone and registered. Can't wait to argue the finer points of SSBB with you guys!

Wow, this thread has been great. Its basically a summary of all the craziness that happens on the Gamefaqs SSBB message board (without a majority of the stupidity).

I was lurking for quite a while too before I realized it was gonna take me forever to actually read through the 1k posts. When I finally got around to posting, I had to have my password reset because it had been a long time since the previous time I had posted anything.

But yes; [discussing] the finer points of SSBB will be the highlight of my days up until the day it's released.

I will probably be happy even if they don't add any more third-party characters. They've done such a great job with everything already, and I bet they have a whole lot more planned than they've revealed already. More third-party characters will just be more icing on [a very sweet] cake, so to speak.

Just the ability to play my friends online is one of the biggest things I'm looking forward to.

I just hope custom levels can be used for Wi-Fi battles! Any thoughts/info on this...?

[RTYPEpilot]

Looks like the online testing has finally tapered down to zero.

This convinces me a lot more than the japanese image that Brawl is done.
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~schapman/brawl.png

What is this graph from?

[EDIT]: I see the URL from the graph background, and I visited the site. It looks like a pretty spiffy app.

[atmuh]

do not question drack
he is always right

[Admiral_C]

do not question drack
he is always right

Because it was confirmed that Bowser is purposely added in the clouds, right? They just look like clouds to me.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/images/modea01/modea01_070720j-l.jpg
^--Actual smashbros.com photo linked, no photoshopping.

If you don't see it, then you just don't see it. It's there.
Mostly...always right... (>.>)

[Zombie]

1000+ pages of this thread? Wow, this is probably the longest thread I have ever seen on ocr.

This game almost here! I can't wait. January is gonna be a long month.

[Aninymouse]

Mostly...always right... (>.>)

What's that supposed to mean? Don't tell me you're one of those who didn't see Bowser in the clouds... But, let's say you didn't -- that's a pretty neat-o graph he has there. People like graphs.

[Drack]

Bowser is most definitely in the clouds in that picture.

Anyway, if you want to verify that graph, the source is WFCStatus, which can be found at http://wfcstatus.net/. It is a program that polls Nintendo's WFC servers for activity and reports the statistics it finds.

Always right? I have been wrong before. I remember that day pretty well considering how long ago it happened.

[Neonlare]

Here's a thought that just occured to me.

The other Hunters in Metroid - Hunters. They have a possibility to enter this game, Metroid is a series ill-represented as it is in SSBB, so this could be possible.

[Neo Samus]

If anything it will be Ridley. The bounty hunters from MPH are not very popular.

I wonder how good the chances of Sparkster be included are?

[atmuh]

Always right? I have been wrong before. I remember that day pretty well considering how long ago it happened.

well there was that one time where the planets were in some odd configuration and for an instant i knew something that had to do with computers that drack didnt

then they moved again and my instant of extreme happiness was over D:

[Neonlare]

well there was that one time where the planets were in some odd configuration and for an instant i knew something that had to do with computers that drack didnt

then they moved again and my instant of extreme happiness was over D:

True Star Control 3 Confirmed?

[GenericDerrick]

Meh, I thought this looked interesting. :<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iywuFiodRk
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iywuFiodRk)

[RTYPEpilot]

do not question drack
he is always right

I now move on to question drack's inability to be questioned.

But seriously, I wasn't questioning what he said to be true in the first place.
I just thought the graph was nifty, and wanted to know where it came from.

On the bowser-cloud issue:
I can see something that looks similar to Bowser, but it looks more like his deformed cousin or something; definitely not the spitting image. Also, being pretty good with 3D graphics techniques, the part of the clouds where it sort of looks like Bowser looks to me like one of a radial-symmetry array of particle systems centered about the point of origin for the Halberd.

The shape of the clouds just doesn't match Bowser's geometry enough for me to really say they intended the clouds to resemble him. Although, who knows, maybe they intended it to be subliminal.

*SHURGS*

[Eulogic]

I see Bowser, but not any of the others. The clouds on either side of his head are his claws.

Then again, I'm not even sold on there being anything in the clouds.

[RTYPEpilot]

Here's a thought that just occured to me.

The other Hunters in Metroid - Hunters. They have a possibility to enter this game, Metroid is a series ill-represented as it is in SSBB, so this could be possible.

Agreed. Though I'm not sure more than one other hunter from Hunters, or Prime 3 will be included as playable.

If anything it will be Ridley. The bounty hunters from MPH are not very popular.

As much as I think it'd be completely awesome to play as Ridley, I just don't think it's possible seeing as how ridiculously huge he is compared to everyone else.
A great reference is "Diorama 1" from the extras gallery in MP3:Corruption. I mean, how the crap is he supposed to fit on the stage??
If Ridley makes it in the game, I suspect he's most likely to be a boss, like Rayquaza.

If anyone, I'm expecting to see either a GF Marine, a Space Pirate, and/or Dark Samus in some form, playable or not.
They've already included a Metroid as an Assist Trophy, so I suppose that could mean they're finally giving my favorite game series more love this time around.

Here's hoping!

[Hum4n After All]

I expect a big ass super special awesome update at the end of the week.

[Makai]

http://smashdash.net/

These are pretty enjoyable. Very well done. Flash commentary on the past week of smash in each episode.

[JCvgluvr]

But anyway, if Mega Man is in Brawl, I won't use him, IMO he's a queer. If they are or shall I say did include any more 3rd parties, it should be NiGHTSWow, his logic is quite funny! Nights is so manly, am I right? Lol!

And I don't just want some weird Mega Man rep! I want the bona fide experience! Just like we're getting with Sonic and Snake. I wouldn't have it any other way!

[RTYPEpilot]

I can just see it now. The "blue bomber" takes a beating from the the magical androgynous jester...

Yikes...:shock:

Don't get me wrong, I think NiGHTS is a cool character, but he doesn't exactly scream "manly", nor does Mega Man really fit the bill for "queer".... IMO.

[Kureejii Lea]

As much as I think it'd be completely awesome to play as Ridley, I just don't think it's possible seeing as how ridiculously huge he is compared to everyone else.
A great reference is "Diorama 1" from the extras gallery in MP3:Corruption. I mean, how the crap is he supposed to fit on the stage??
If Ridley makes it in the game, I suspect he's most likely to be a boss, like Rayquaza.

While I agree Ridley would be most fitting as a boss, I really don't see the logic behind this whole "he's too big to be playable" rationale. First off - Giga Bowswer. Okay, not really, but still - all they'd have to do is resize him; almost the entire Smash cast is not scaled accurately given the differences in character size and artistic/stylisitc proportions. Samus, Captain Falcon, the Zelda cast and the FE guys are all about normal human size and proportion, but Mario and Ness are not (smaller bodies, bigger heads) and then you have guys like Kirby, Sonic and Mewtwo who are supposed to be something like eight inches, three feet and six feet tall respectively. Obviously the heights and proportions are retooled as necessary, so there's no reason they couldn't do the same for any character.

[Codycrusader]

Wow, his logic is quite funny! Nights is so manly, am I right? Lol!
I didn't say NiGHTS was manly, I said he looked interesting to play as. You're logic's funny because you try to act smart but yet you can't read. If you wan't to talk about manly, only one word.... Birdo.

[Sindra]

Needs more Belmont.

[Airwalker]

http://smashdash.net/

These are pretty enjoyable. Very well done. Flash commentary on the past week of smash in each episode.

Hmm, that's not bad. Finally a decent voice over for a funny internet video.

[Steben]

While I agree Ridley would be most fitting as a boss, I really don't see the logic behind this whole "he's too big to be playable" rationale. First off - Giga Bowswer. Okay, not really, but still - all they'd have to do is resize him; almost the entire Smash cast is not scaled accurately given the differences in character size and artistic/stylisitc proportions. Samus, Captain Falcon, the Zelda cast and the FE guys are all about normal human size and proportion, but Mario and Ness are not (smaller bodies, bigger heads) and then you have guys like Kirby, Sonic and Mewtwo who are supposed to be something like eight inches, three feet and six feet tall respectively. Obviously the heights and proportions are retooled as necessary, so there's no reason they couldn't do the same for any character.

Besides, Ridley wasn't much bigger than Samus in the first Metroid game, so a smaller Ridley isn't unheard of.

[Codycrusader]

Yea, it'd be just like what they do to Bowser, Mario Kart he's tiny, Super Maro 64 he's huge

EDIT: To avoid a double post....

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh291/jetblack97/pic.jpg

Does anyone see Bowser in the small box and Robotnik in the big one? I had to look at Robotnik from far away to see him.

[Brithor]

Does anyone see Bowser in the small box and Robotnik in the big one? I had to look at Robotnik from far away to see him.

Are you kidding me? Clouds, AGAIN?

[Codycrusader]

Are you kidding me? Clouds, AGAIN?

lol, I got bored and looked at old updates...so yea, more clouds

[Geoffrey Taucer]

May I have everybody's attention please? The following is a public service announcement:

The clouds are clouds. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you for your time and attention.

[Neonlare]

May I have everybody's attention please? The following is a public service announcement:

The clouds are clouds. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you for your time and attention.

I was going to try and make a pun out of your user name but I decided not to because A.) It's rude and B.) It's british.

It's all about the stadium by the way, there's probably some secret character sitting somewhere on the seats.

[FlagshipAmadeus]

Does anyone see Bowser in the small box and Robotnik in the big one? I had to look at Robotnik from far away to see him.

If they put Dr. Robotnik in somewhere they better call him Dr. Robotnik and not Eggman or whatever because otherwise I will be very angry.

[Arek the Absolute]

cloud talk again?
ah lawdy

[Jam Stunna]

cloud talk again?
ah lawdy

It's going to be a long week.

[linkspast]

Yea, it'd be just like what they do to Bowser, Mario Kart he's tiny, Super Maro 64 he's huge

EDIT: To avoid a double post....

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh291/jetblack97/pic.jpg

Does anyone see Bowser in the small box and Robotnik in the big one? I had to look at Robotnik from far away to see him.

No.... Wait.... I think I see it. hold on... Nope... But I am sure they are just hinting at Clouds appearance... I mean just think omnisla---- never mind.... this is going to be a long seven days.... OMG seven... as in FF7...

Yep a long week indeed...

[Bleck]

If they put Dr. Robotnik in somewhere they better call him Dr. Robotnik and not Eggman or whatever because otherwise I will be very angry.

His name is Dr. Eggman it has always been Dr. Eggman

[RTYPEpilot]

While I agree Ridley would be most fitting as a boss, I really don't see the logic behind this whole "he's too big to be playable" rationale. First off - Giga Bowswer. Okay, not really, but still - all they'd have to do is resize him; almost the entire Smash cast is not scaled accurately given the differences in character size and artistic/stylisitc proportions. Samus, Captain Falcon, the Zelda cast and the FE guys are all about normal human size and proportion, but Mario and Ness are not (smaller bodies, bigger heads) and then you have guys like Kirby, Sonic and Mewtwo who are supposed to be something like eight inches, three feet and six feet tall respectively. Obviously the heights and proportions are retooled as necessary, so there's no reason they couldn't do the same for any character.

While resizing Ridley would be easy, I think it'd detract from his actual character design. He's supposed to be huge. If he was scaled down, he'd look like a scrawny little pterodactyl. Shrinking him would ruin what Ridley is, and I'd really be disappointed if they did shrink him as he'd lose his "effect". Giga Bowser is a behemoth, but he was introduced in Melee, so that is his correct size.
To me, scaling Ridley down would be like doing the same thing to Giga Bowser; he wouldn't be Giga Bowser anymore. He'd be like... "Roid Rage Bowser".

Mario and Ness are of reasonable scale. Their proportions are different, as they are considered "gag" characters in design terminology—they are about two and a half heads tall.
Line up Mario, Peach and Bowser and their relative sizes haven't been changed much, if at all from their original designs. Actually, line everyone up and their sizes are almost exactly the way they should be, except for the small characters.
Samus = approx. 2 meters.
Mewtwo = 6ft 7in. (slightly taller than samus)
Peach = about the same as Samus, which actually surprised me
Mario = correct height relative to Peach
Bowser = same.

I know those aren't all the characters, but if you look at the roster as a whole, you'll find that the only substantial scaling they did was for the small characters:
Pikachu
Pichu
Kirby
Jiggly
Ness (maybe)

Kirby is, of course, an extreme case. I know he's supposed to be 8 inches tall, but he's a Nintendo [Hal Labs] icon, so they had to include him, and there really isn't any choice but to have him be larger than his original design. Having him his original size would be like Smash Bros. Kirby with a perpetual poison mushroom. Not fun.

All the large characters like Bowser and DK didn't need to be scaled as those are their appropriate sizes to begin with. Ridley and Rayquasa are in a totally different size class—they're easily 3-4 times as long/tall as Bowser—so I don't think scaling them down would be effective.

My point is that all characters—besides any character from the Kirby games—retain size relationships reasonably close to their originals. I'm saying that scaling down Ridley would be overdoing it. He's better as a boss.

SORRY THIS WAS SO LONG!

[RTYPEpilot]

I didn't say NiGHTS was manly, I said he looked interesting to play as. You're logic's funny because you try to act smart but yet you can't read. If you wan't to talk about manly, only one word.... Birdo.

Birdo would make for a fun AT.
Although, if they include Mushroom Kingdom 2 as a past stage, then we'll see the confused... whatever-he-is, again.

[RTYPEpilot]

Besides, Ridley wasn't much bigger than Samus in the first Metroid game, so a smaller Ridley isn't unheard of.

One word: retcon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retconning).

[RTYPEpilot]

Are you kidding me? Clouds, AGAIN?
Next thing you know, someone will say they see Andross in the background nebulae for the Pleiades stage...

Wait for it.....

[Neonlare]

Next thing you know, someone will say they see Andross in the background nebulae for the Pleiades stage...

Wait for it.....

As an assist trophy lol.

So who's looking forward to the game then? @:P.

[Aninymouse]

Everyone went nuts over the first cloud picture because Bowser's head wasn't all that hard to spot in the first place, and it definitely was a "evil makes it's appearence" type thing. Those other clouds... that's kinda silly. It's not an iconic moment, everything moves too fast...

[Strike911]

Man, this will be a rough week without my Smash updates. :_( lol.

In regards to Robotnik, Sega switches between Robotnik and Eggman whenever they feel like it, though recently it's been Eggman.

I don't think it's always been Eggman, at least in North America. My Sonic 1 Genesis Instruction Manual calls him "Dr. Ivo Robotnik" so ... I don't think anyone is wrong to call him either name. I was always under the assumption that Japanese carts got Dr. Eggman and and early western Sonic carts got Dr. Robotnik (though I am slightly unsure of that; just a guess). It's clear that they call him Eggman now, but referring to him as either/or is fine imo.

and....

wow, RTYPEpilot, way to do 4 posts in a row. lol.

EDIT: LAWL CLOUDS!!!!111

@ CodyCrusader : I see a giant dong in the clouds. Clearly a giant dong is playable.

and Ridley is a freakin' Stretch Armstrong (and not the Dhalsim style ones either.. like a freakin' mass changing sea monkey [just add water bitches!]). Does it matter anymore what his size is? It has never been consistent, and probably never will. Nintendo should just bite the bullet and make a dime sized Ridley just to piss in all of our faces, once and for all. Or come up with some ridiculous story that will semi-piece together everything but not really, and just make everything more confusing and retarded (COUGH ZELDA COUGH COUGH)

[atmuh]

assorted nonsense

shut up

[RTYPEpilot]

wow, RTYPEpilot, way to do 4 posts in a row. lol.

Heh. Yeah... I tend to post in volleys. :mrgreen:
I've also become quite fond of this thread. It's tiding me over, as this week is going reeeeally slow.

Smash > crack.

[atmuh]

use the freaking edit button

[RTYPEpilot]

shut up

You do actually own Smash Bros. right? It's pretty easy to see it.

[atmuh]

wait until we can have a match
then youll really shut up

[RTYPEpilot]

wait until we can have a match
then youll really shut up

I wouldn't care if you beat me. Chill.

[Arek the Absolute]

shut up both of you

[atmuh]

kiss me arek

[RTYPEpilot]

shut up both of you
I'm tryin' to talk about Smash. I'm not here to start anything.

[Arek the Absolute]

stop getting defensive and shhhh

[RTYPEpilot]

Moving on to something relevant...

Players can send custom stages to others. I hope they allow those custom stages to be used for wi-fi battles; perhaps after they've been sent to all the other participants.

Just a thought.

[Codycrusader]

I forgot about the custom stages. Yea, that'd be cool to use them but Nintendo tends to a big douche bag when it comes to online. Such as Pokemon Battle Revolution, so what if I tought my Weedle explosion and fly, I deserve to get to use it. But anyway, the custom stages look to me to be a bit lacking unless that was a sample of what it's capable of.

[atmuh]

custom stages allow me to do the one major thing i want in the game
make a line - final destination returns

[Global-Trance]

custom stages allow me to do the one major thing i want in the game
make a line - final destination returns

You might not even have to do this......

[RTYPEpilot]

I forgot about the custom stages. Yea, that'd be cool to use them but Nintendo tends to a big douche bag when it comes to online. Such as Pokemon Battle Revolution, so what if I tought my Weedle explosion and fly, I deserve to get to use it. But anyway, the custom stages look to me to be a bit lacking unless that was a sample of what it's capable of.
If you take a really close look at the images, you can see stage pieces used in the main game, so it looks like there will be a decent library to choose from. I just hope there isn't a small memory limit. I just noticed a "remaining parts" bar at the top of the screen.

Also:

Sakurai say:
"You can create your own stages this time?! No way. REALLY?! With a feature like that, won’t I be able to play this game forever?!"

and...

"Those who enjoy a little effort may be able to enjoy this stage builder for the rest of their lives."

Initially, that sounds great, but the possible implications.... [/paranoia]

[Moseph]

You might not even have to do this......
Yes! It's the return of Final Destination! Many players liked this stage in Super Smash Brothers Melee, but I thought is was a bit drab, and so I've decided to update it. It's just like the Final Destination you know and love, but now it turns sideways and upside down, too! So cool!

10charlimit

[Steben]

(Concerning my post about Ridley's small stature in the original Metroid.)

One word: retcon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retconning).

Incidentally, did they make him bigger for the Metroid Zero Mission game? I know it was a remake of the original, but I'd have to imagine that they updated the bosses a little, since they were ridiculously boring in the original game.

[atmuh]

what did i miss

[RTYPEpilot]

(Concerning my post about Ridley's small stature in the original Metroid.)



Incidentally, did they make him bigger for the Metroid Zero Mission game? I know it was a remake of the original, but I'd have to imagine that they updated the bosses a little, since they were ridiculously boring in the original game.
Yup. They retold the story of Metroid, but updated everything to fit with how things are represented currently and used a new graphical style. They even added a "mecha-Ridley" to spice things up. If you like Metroid, you should check it out.

[Codycrusader]

Yes! It's the return of Final Destination! Many players liked this stage in Super Smash Brothers Melee, but I thought is was a bit drab, and so I've decided to update it. It's just like the Final Destination you know and love, but now it turns sideways and upside down, too! So cool!

Was that from the Mojo?

[Moseph]

Was that from the Mojo?

It's fictional. But if we actually get an update on it, that's what it will be.

[Codycrusader]

It's fictional. But if we actually get an update on it, that's what it will be.
Probably... I'd bet on it

[JCvgluvr]

I didn't say NiGHTS was manly, I said he looked interesting to play as. You're logic's funny because you try to act smart but yet you can't read. If you wan't to talk about manly, only one word.... Birdo.

Okay. You just said that you think Mega Man shouldn't be in Brawl because he's a queer. But then you go and talk about NiGHTS?!

Have you seen "his" eyelashes? They're longer than my mothers! "He" wears a purple Jester's costume! NiGHTS is WAY more queer than Mega Man!

Mega Man has a lot more moveset potential. He has many more (and many better) games. Besides, Sega already got in. There's no way they're getting another rep in Brawl.

That's why your logic is funny.

[Venom]

Lol, i think brawl is gonna be cool

[atmuh]

Lol, i think brawl is gonna be cool

the most enlightening first post ever

[Codycrusader]

I looked at the Japanese site and what do you know, they're holdin' out on us Americans. There's another Kirby song, but it's on his Final Smash sheet. Does that mean that some songs are gonna be exclusive to a certain region? If someone's already said this than it's my fault for not paying attention.

[Eulogic]

We've known about that since the update occured in October. Nice try though.

[Airwalker]

Also, the Japanese site has Cloud listed as a confirmed character.

:-P

Okay, maybe not, but the Japan site does have a few extra bits. It's the only one Sakurai actually writes personally. (I've seen the guy who translates those Dojo posts in a Brawl demo video a while ago...) It's an easy thing to miss. I can personally tell ya, I never bothered reading the past 1041 pages. =D Cut the kid some slack. It's a dead week, so it may be good to point out those things others may have missed.

[RTYPEpilot]

Also, the Japanese site has Cloud listed as a confirmed character.

:-P

Okay, maybe not, but the Japan site does have a few extra bits. It's the only one Sakurai actually writes personally. (I've seen the guy who translates those Dojo posts in a Brawl demo video a while ago...) It's an easy thing to miss. I can personally tell ya, I never bothered reading the past 1041 pages. =D Cut the kid some slack. It's a dead week, so it may be good to point out those things others may have missed.

The Kirby song was news to me too. I'll have to stumble around the Japanese site some more. I got tired of trying to read them all when I hit page 20-something.

+1000 pages = not reading them all.

[Bleck]

Lol, i think brawl is gonna be cool

I love this man and all he stands for.

[RTYPEpilot]

I love this man and all he stands for.
1) Agreed.

2) Your sig is priceless. Where'd you find that footage?

[Arek the Absolute]

ytmnd more than likely

[RTYPEpilot]

Tha's cool. Haven't been there in a while.

Oh man, the sig also reminds me they're including banana peels in Brawl.
So much new stuff this time around.
I'm just really glad they brought back the bumpers. Those were fun.

[Arek the Absolute]

you are going to reach 10k posts before i do

[Bleck]

Actually AREK it was on 4CHAN OKAY

[Arek the Absolute]

eh
--------

[Bleck]

Arek quick invite me back into Skype

edit: no wait I forgot my login give me a sec

edit: ok now go name is vintageps

[RTYPEpilot]

you are going to reach 10k posts before i do

Cool. High score.

[atmuh]

aka axle aka blitz aka balls aka atma aka arek aka internet

[Brithor]

Good god, this is going to be a long week.

[RTYPEpilot]

You know it...

So what's the first thing everyone will do in Smash?
Wi-Fi with friends for me.

[nookster]

You know it...

So what's the first thing everyone will do in Smash?
Wi-Fi with friends for me.

Beer, a beamer, and about 15 people for me. :D Gotta love a game-design school.

[RTYPEpilot]

Beer, a beamer, and about 15 people for me. :D Gotta love a game-design school.

That's livin', for sure.
I'm also heading to game design school soon. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Vidilian]

Vid of Kirby's Final smash. Looks really crappy actually...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8WdNMNFrf8M

[Admiral_C]

No, I think its pretty awesome. I can't wait until lines of foreign text fly all over the room and distract my opponents...

[Airwalker]

You know it...

So what's the first thing everyone will do in Smash?
Wi-Fi with friends for me.

I'm going to get every single unlockable character I can. In one sitting.

Of course they'll all be spoiled by then since Japan gets to Smash earlier.

[Effector]

Damn... I hadn't thought of that. D:

*considers swearing off the internet for... 17 days? maybe just this thread*

[Gafgarion]

I hope they put in Falco and Ganondorf; they are my best chars.

[atmuh]

Falco

you and a zillion other high teir silly gooses

[Brithor]

you and a zillion other high teir silly gooses

I chose Falco even before I knew tiers EXISTED.

[Lord.Roderick.i]

I hope they put in Falco and Ganondorf; they are my best chars.
I wish Ganondorf was back, but with a new move set, cuz a clone of C. Falcon w/ no knee is worthless. IMO
Still fun to use tho.

[Ferret]

you and a zillion other high teir silly gooses

Can't use Falco for shit. Always falls too fast and NEVER obeys my inputs!

[Bleck]

I am still hoping and praying for Dr. Mario's safety.

[Drack]

The first thing I'll do? If I'm with my friends at Georgia Tech, multiplayer before any of us have played a second of it.

If no rl friends are handy, wifi with OCR folks who also have it (ClanOCR will be covering the matchmaking for OCR).

If nobody's handy, subspace emissary with Meta Knight.

[atmuh]

The first thing I'll do? If I'm with friends at Tech, multiplayer before any of us have played a second of it.

If no friends are handy, wifi with ClanOCR folks who also have it.

If nobody's handy, subspace emissary with metaknight.

um
when do you go back to school

come on drack you know well have it before then

[Drack]

um
when do you go back to school

come on drack you know well have it before then

I'm going back to Tech in 3 days, 4 tops.

[Antipode]

I'm going to get every single unlockable character I can. In one sitting.

Of course they'll all be spoiled by then since Japan gets to Smash earlier.
I think I'm just going to like, avoid the internet that day. Reminds me of the recent Harry Potter when that was new...

[Drack]

This reminds me. Anyone getting Smash early due to the Japanese getting it sooner or leaks/mods, please use spoilertext with your spoilers (any info not known from the dojo or the demo vids is a spoiler).

[JCvgluvr]

*Scruffy the Janitor's voice*

Second.

[Gafgarion]

I am still hoping and praying for Dr. Mario's safety.

Dude, speaking of Dr. mario, did you know the cape can be used as a hardcore edgeguard?

[atmuh]

Dude, speaking of Dr. mario, did you know the cape can be used as a hardcore edgeguard?

no way really????

[RTYPEpilot]

This reminds me. Anyone getting Smash early due to the Japanese getting it sooner or leaks/mods, please use spoilertext with your spoilers (any info not known from the dojo or the demo vids is a spoiler).
Motion thirded.

[RTYPEpilot]

Vid of Kirby's Final smash. Looks really crappy actually...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8WdNMNFrf8M
I'd imagine anyone who comes within range (either at the beginning of the move or during) will get cooked, leaving Kirby free to grab items.

It doesn't look too bad.

[atmuh]

USE THE FREAKING EDIT BUTTON

[Cortani]

Motion thirded.

Would it be possible to extend said motion to the European release?

[Arek the Absolute]

Would it be possible to extend said motion to the European release?

ahahahahahaahahh

[Raziellink]

ahahahahahaahahh

:'(

(tenchar)

[RTYPEpilot]

How long after the US release is the European release?

[Brithor]

ahahahahahaahahh

You are mean :(

[Airwalker]

This reminds me. Anyone getting Smash early due to the Japanese getting it sooner or leaks/mods, please use spoilertext with your spoilers (any info not known from the dojo or the demo vids is a spoiler).

You just know that somebody here is going to drop the bomb about say... Knuckles and the Phoenix Wright assist trophy or that nobody could find Captain Falcon without spoilertext. It's bound to happen.

[Vidilian]

I'd imagine anyone who comes within range (either at the beginning of the move or during) will get cooked, leaving Kirby free to grab items.

It doesn't look too bad.

Yeah, I guess. It's more of a recovery move anyway. But I still think he could've gotten a better FS. I'm not an expert on Kirby games but I know he's got a lot of better abilities to choose from.

[Paratha]

How long after the US release is the European release?

Ten years.

[atmuh]

You just know that somebody here is going to drop the bomb about say... Knuckles and the Phoenix Wright assist trophy or that nobody could find Captain Falcon without spoilertext. It's bound to happen.

thatll be me

[Zup]

I'm still waiting for Phoenix Wright to be announced as the third third-party character.


TAKE THAT!

[RTYPEpilot]

Yeah, I guess. It's more of a recovery move anyway. But I still think he could've gotten a better FS. I'm not an expert on Kirby games but I know he's got a lot of better abilities to choose from.
I was also going to originally say that it looked like an elaborate recovery move, but I remembered that I saw other items in the screenshot on the Dojo site. I've only ever played the first Kirby game—and that was also just recently on the Virtual Console—so I'm definitely no Kirby expert either, but I too would imagine he'd have some other more impressive move to use as a Final Smash. Although, the way they introduced it in the first Brawl movie was pretty funny.
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Phoenix Wright in Brawl = hilarious.

[Drack]

As far as kirby's final smash goes, I'm kind of surprised they didn't use Microphone instead of Cook.

[The Mutericator]

As far as kirby's final smash goes, I'm kind of surprised they didn't use Microphone instead of Cook.

Because Cook is so much cooler.

[#Az]

A FS in which Kirby produces a microphone, takes in a huge breath sucking his opponents to him and then bursting into a bout of terrible singing, damaging everyone in range and causing knockback I'm beginning to think would be far more awesome than Cook Kirby.

[Bleck]

I would have made it Crash actually

Just a huge shitfuck rape-plosion that automatically kills everyone

[The Author]

A FS in which Kirby produces a microphone, takes in a huge breath sucking his opponents to him and then bursting into a bout of terrible singing, damaging everyone in range and causing knockback I'm beginning to think would be far more awesome than Cook Kirby.
And would it be that much different than the fireballs or the charged hyper beam ?

[Bleck]

And would it be that much different than the fireballs or the charged hyper beam ?

Yes, because it is neither a fireball or a hyper beam.

[Arek the Absolute]

Skeleton crocomire for assist trophy.

That is one fucked up fight in super metroid.

[friendlyHunter]

No kidding. I got to him with almost full energy, [minor spoilers]I kept getting hit with those super-fast fireballs until I was almost dead, and then I finally realized that you need to use the Crystal Flash before you can hurt him. After that he's kind of easy, but hitting a moving target with bombs is pretty tough when you get there without Spring Ball.[/minor spoilers] True story.

[Arek the Absolute]

As a kid, seeing his flesh melt was fucking crazy. Freaked me the hell out.

[Admiral_C]

What on Zebes are you talking about Hunter? You just shoot him in the friggin' mouth...

As a kid, seeing his flesh melt was fucking crazy. Freaked me the hell out.

I was more scared at the fact that his skeleton swam upstream and appeared again... I thought I was going to have to fight an undead version of him too (0_o)

[Arek the Absolute]

Crocomire dislikes smoke.

[Admiral_C]

Legend of Metroid? (>_<)

[Arek the Absolute]

i love you

[Admiral_C]

Oh come on now... that could be from ANY Final Fantasy (bar 1/2)

[Gafgarion]

Speaking of Crocomire, he always scared me as a little kid for some reason. Once I beat him, I was really happy, until he came out in his skeleton form. But he dropped, so I was happy again.

[Calpis]

I love how the conversation has degenerated into Super Metroid nostalgia since the Dojo took a break.

[Admiral_C]

Its better then talking about the clouds... Though I admit, that was kinda my fault... (>.>)

[Cavanikus]

So if there is a midnight launch what are you going to do as soon as you got home with brawl Story or Wi Fi

[friendlyHunter]

What on Zebes are you talking about Hunter? You just shoot him in the friggin' mouth...

Yeah, for the first part... but I was talking about the skeleton form ;-)

[Gafgarion]

So if there is a midnight launch what are you going to do as soon as you got home with brawl Story or Wi Fi

Wi-Fi definately. Nuff' said.

[Cavanikus]

I think first I'll get on Wi-Fi then go through the story mode with pit and pokemon trainer

[Linkjing Donuts]

I GOT FUCKING KILLED AND MURDERED BY GT




my goodness

[Zombie]

I will definitely go through story mode first. I dunno, to me there's just something wierd about playing multiplayer before single player for some reason.

[Gafgarion]

I hope they will allow the C-Stick in Story mode, not that I hug the C-Stick or anything.

[JCvgluvr]

I would have made it Crash actually

Just a huge shitfuck rape-plosion that automatically kills everyone

See this? This^? This right here?

This fricking wins!

[Arek the Absolute]

I GOT FUCKING KILLED AND MURDERED BY GT




my goodness

lol he 4 stocked you

[Global-Trance]

That I did. That was fun though. Thanks for challenging me and inviting me over to your pad.

[Drack]

Someone claiming to be a beta tester has posted a ton of "inside" information on gamefaqs.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=40558055

Even if it's a complete fabrication, it's an interesting read.

[Arek the Absolute]

The fact that he posted it at gamefaqs rather than a better site, like say smashboards, already makes his whole post lose any credibility.

[Scufo]

Someone claiming to be a beta tester has posted a ton of "inside" information on gamefaqs.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=40558055

Even if it's a complete fabrication, it's an interesting read.
Yeah, probably fake. Sakurai has explicitly stated that no records will be kept online, so that basically debunks him right there. Also Cecil sounds extremely unlikely, as well as Knuckles. Sonic is more of a token character than anything. I highly doubt they'd bring in any more of the Sonic universe.

[Bleck]

Although I am convinced it's mostly bullshit, I am interested in hearing more about Sylux in Brawl.

[RTYPEpilot]

Sylux is broken tool, and I hate him. I really hope they don't include him.

[Florio]

And... what about Geno (you know, the living puppet in Super Mario RPG) ? Forgot him ? Or nobody here wants him to be in Brawl ? It'd be freaking awesome IMO.

[RTYPEpilot]

I've never actually played it, but friends tell me it's a really cool game.
Puppets do make cool fighters, though. :)!!

[MechaFone]

I'm personally all for Geno. Hell, I'd be happy if they brought back the original LOTSS for the Virtual Console. Still, Geno for Brawl would be awesome.

[Brithor]

Geno would be an awesome adition, this game needs more SMRPG love.

[Rambo]

Geno would be an awesome adition, this game needs more SMRPG love.

Saying "I agree" would be an understatement. I'd pretty much burst in my pants if he was in it. And I think it's already been said, but he could have a pretty wicked moveset.

As for LOTSS coming to the VC...
Even though its among my favorite games, I wouldn't buy it because I still have it for my SNES, and I've already beaten it to near perfection in different ways at least 6 times. I say near perfection because I was never able to get that God forsaken super suit. I've gotten the attack scarf for 30 consecutive jumps... But I hold that it's fucking impossible to do 100. My record stands at 47. A number I will never forget....:-x

[Cavanikus]

Someone claiming to be a beta tester has posted a ton of "inside" information on gamefaqs.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=40558055

Even if it's a complete fabrication, it's an interesting read.


more rumors of beta test channel
http://www.miiplaza.net/newsrss/1770677

http://www.qj.net/Rumor-Nintendo-releases-Brawl-Beta-Demo-Channel/pg/49/aid/110926

[Cecilff2]

Capcom has no part of this game, so those asking for Pheonix Wright and Megaman are out of luck.
You can expect however, to see two of Square's characters, Cecil and Geno. If you need more detail, Cecil is a faster version of Ike, with a different Final Smash, and Geno is a blue Scarecrow from some obscure Mario game that attacks using stars and lazers.


FALSE INFO REPORTER. And to think he tried to tell me that I was gonna be in SB:B. May he burn in that special hell reserved for child molesters and people that talk during theaters.

[Admiral_C]

Yeah, for the first part... but I was talking about the skeleton form ;-)

Go play Super Metroid again... (~_~) His skeleton form doesn't fight you... its DEAD!