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Imagist
05-29-2007, 09:51 PM
Somebody who wants to Emphasize the word.

In other words, a retard? Possibly a Shakespearean or Victorian retard?

The colors are, in fact, the special titles for each version of the DS Lite - Pearl Pink, Something Blue, et cetera.

But pink is not a special title. In that case you should not capitalize pink.

It's not that I would refuse a pink DS. But I'm paying for it and I want to bloody pay for a white DS.

Darth GourryGN
05-30-2007, 01:12 AM
I'd like to Emphasize something:
I have an R4 (Revolution for DS). It is Awesome.
That is all.

Not really...

I used to not care much about homebrew software besides moonshell (for pictures, mp3s, movies). I still don't.

But I found two programs that I actually like to use:
Phidias (http://www.sivullinen.fi/nds/projects.php) (<-link) and DSOrganize (http://www.dragonminded.com/?loc=ndsdev/DSOrganize) (<-link).

Phidias is a drawing program that's pretty fun to use. It's got just enough functions to let you create a masterpiece or two.
Behold:
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1320/28uv2.png
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6426/29ro5.png
So awesome.
You can even create custom brushes. It doesn't fix your suckiness, though. And the phidias.nds file size is 666kB, so, congratulations, you found the Pope's ds drawing program.

DSOrganize is a digital swiss army knife that has a Calendar, Day Planner, Address book, Todo list, scribble pad, file browser (now you can change filenames and copy and mess sh!t up just like you wanted), scientific calculator, IRC kjigger, and web browser(text only). Also, you can download ds demos and keep 'em without worrying about the power shutoff.

Speaking of drawing stuff, Drawn to Life (http://ds.ign.com/objects/824/824374.html) looks interesting. It reminds me of Graffiti Kingdom. You get to draw your own character, and parts of the environment. I imagine that there will be a lot of people will have Phallusmen riding Wangships through the Testiclouds.

It looks like it will be similar to Graffiti kingdom in that it will be too short and easy, and more time will be spent drawing stuff than playing the rest of the game. But it should be fun.

I'm annoyed that Dragon Quest 9 is going to be a turn-based game now. I never enjoyed the previous DQ games, but I was hoping for a good long action RPG when I heard about the change for IX. The multiplayer portion sounds especially whack.

At least Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates still looks like it's on track to be great.

Mouser X
05-30-2007, 01:45 AM
In regards to homebrew, here's somethng worth checking out. WordUp (http://www.superpanic.com/wordup_download.html) looks like a pretty interesting game. I don't have a flashcart, so I haven't tried it myself. However, the description definitely has me interested. I'm now (again) considering getting a flashcart... Mouser X out.

UnforgivingEdges
05-30-2007, 02:16 AM
You should only charge it when it's close to being dead. If you constantly charge it, it'll wear on the battery after a while. That's what happened to my first DS. It's life went down by like a third before I traded it in.

NOT true. The DS uses a Lithium Ion battery, and as such, should be charged whenever possible to ensure maximum battery life (which decreases exponentially, not linearly, if you use your "charge when it's close to being dead" method).

-Unlike Ni-Cd (Nickel Cadmium) batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%. Lithium-ion batteries should never be "deep-cycled" like Ni-Cd batteries.

-Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted to empty (0%).

-Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.

-It is significantly beneficial to avoid storing a lithium-ion battery at full charge. A Li-ion battery stored at 40% charge will last many times longer than one stored at 100% charge, particularly at higher temperatures.

-If a Li-ion battery is stored with too low a charge, there is a risk of allowing the charge to drop below the battery's low-voltage threshold, resulting in an unrecoverably dead battery. Once the charge has dropped to this level, recharging it can be dangerous. An internal safety circuit will therefore open to prevent charging, and the battery will be for all practical purposes dead.

So to answer your question Oddlama, charge it at night after any day in which you played your DS.

Evilhead
05-30-2007, 02:33 PM
I'd like to Emphasize something:
I have an R4 (Revolution for DS). It is Awesome.
That is all.

Not really...

I used to not care much about homebrew software besides moonshell (for pictures, mp3s, movies). I still don't.

But I found two programs that I actually like to use:
Phidias (http://www.sivullinen.fi/nds/projects.php) (<-link) and DSOrganize (http://www.dragonminded.com/?loc=ndsdev/DSOrganize) (<-link).

Phidias is a drawing program that's pretty fun to use. It's got just enough functions to let you create a masterpiece or two.
Behold:
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1320/28uv2.png
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6426/29ro5.png
So awesome.
You can even create custom brushes. It doesn't fix your suckiness, though. And the phidias.nds file size is 666kB, so, congratulations, you found the Pope's ds drawing program.

DSOrganize is a digital swiss army knife that has a Calendar, Day Planner, Address book, Todo list, scribble pad, file browser (now you can change filenames and copy and mess sh!t up just like you wanted), scientific calculator, IRC kjigger, and web browser(text only). Also, you can download ds demos and keep 'em without worrying about the power shutoff.

Hey, thanks for posting this stuff. I've been looking for some good DS homebrew, especially a paint program. Cheers.

q-pa
05-30-2007, 04:00 PM
If we're talking homebrew, don't forget DSAIM (http://dev-scene.com/NDS/DSAIM) (an AIM client for the DS!) :-)

Also, Dev-Scene (http://dev-scene.com/Main_Page) is a great resource for all things homebrew on the DS and Wii.

Have fun. 8-)


Edit: Has anyone successfully connected to #ocremix or #vgdj using DSOrganize or IRCDS (http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/IRCDS)? It's not working for me...

Imagist
05-31-2007, 03:40 AM
So I managed to get a hold of a Polar White DS Lite today. Not only does it feel good in my hands, but holy shit is Phoenix Wright a good game. There's a part in the second chapter when Gumshoe is on the stand, and when you press him for mentioning "hard evidence" even though he provided none, he says, "D-Did I say that?" And then Phoenix, the judge, and even Edgeworth all in turn say, "You did say that." Hilarious. The music's not too shabby either.

Oddllama
05-31-2007, 05:16 AM
This thread is huge... quick response?

How do I get this homebrew program onto my DS?
That sketching one seems rad, but it doesn't give me any instructions in the site.

KakTheInfected
05-31-2007, 05:31 AM
Well, do you have the proper hardware (R4, M3, Supercard DS, anything) to do it? If not, you need that first.

Then you download that program, make sure it's patched for whatever device you're using, put it on that device, then have fun.

Czar Diego
05-31-2007, 05:44 AM
NOT true. The DS uses a Lithium Ion battery, and as such, should be charged whenever possible to ensure maximum battery life (which decreases exponentially, not linearly, if you use your "charge when it's close to being dead" method).



So to answer your question Oddlama, charge it at night after any day in which you played your DS.
I stand corrected.

OA
05-31-2007, 06:05 PM
I have been rocking Etrian Odyssey for the last few weeks and it's pretty refreshing to play a game that has an actual sense of difficulty. I am also digging the turn based nature of it, since I play it while working on mixes.
I have a main party all around level 20 or so and i'm on the 6th floor.
What really sold me on it was the feature where you can name all your d00dz and pick their classes/portraits. Of course, I made myself and 4 random hunnies (just like real life lolololol)as my party.

Hale-Bopp
05-31-2007, 07:34 PM
Edit: Has anyone successfully connected to #ocremix or #vgdj using DSOrganize or IRCDS (http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/IRCDS)? It's not working for me...

IRCDS works great. I just gave it a shot and connected to #ocremix on the first try. I have the M3 Simply, btw, and I'm lovin' it.

q-pa
05-31-2007, 10:06 PM
IRCDS works great. I just gave it a shot and connected to #ocremix on the first try. I have the M3 Simply, btw, and I'm lovin' it.I know the server is irc.enterthegame.com, but is the port the default of 6667?

I always get:

(Re)connecting...
Connecting to : irc.enterthegame.com/ (6667)
Could not resolve hostname


Edit: I managed to connect using the IRC feature of DSOrganize, but help would still be appreciated. Thanks.

Hale-Bopp
06-02-2007, 05:00 AM
I use all default settings to connect. IRCDS gets a bit flaky now and then, but it's reliable enough for the most part. Certainly far better than DSOrganize's setup, as you may have already noticed.

q-pa
06-04-2007, 05:03 AM
OK, don't know what I did exactly but after messing around with the settings IRCDS is working now.
Thanks for all your help anyway :-D


In other news, the American version of Opera's Nintnedo DS Browser (http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/) is supposed to be coming out tomorrow. Is anyone going to be getting it--or does anybody care? Me: I've been using a patched European version when it's been useful...

Bahamut
06-05-2007, 04:56 PM
So, Planet Puzzle League comes out today - who's ready to lose to me?

Broken
06-05-2007, 05:13 PM
So, Planet Puzzle League comes out today - who's ready to lose to me?

I hope you make your game freeze up.....

Kanthos
06-05-2007, 05:38 PM
So, Planet Puzzle League comes out today - who's ready to lose to me?

I'll consider getting it, it looks fun. It's not out yet here in Canada though; we're generally a day or two behind you American folks for game releases.

Also, is the built-in voice chat worth doing with the built-in mic and headphones/built-in speakers, or is it worth getting a headset?

eternal Zero
06-05-2007, 05:43 PM
I really want to get Etrian Odyssey. Old school hardcore dungeon crawling for the win! How is the class system though? I mean, in terms of the balance and not having two of them available to you from the get-go.

Also, a little off-topic, but I've only recently realized the gems that Atlus is bringing state-side.

Drack
06-05-2007, 06:01 PM
So, Planet Puzzle League comes out today - who's ready to lose to me?

That is a Tetris Attack clone, right? And online? If it integrates the touch as well as Meteos did, I can see this becoming quite popular.

I've added it to the ClanOCR database in my sig.

OA
06-05-2007, 06:02 PM
I really want to get Etrian Odyssey. Old school hardcore dungeon crawling for the win! How is the class system though? I mean, in terms of the balance and not having two of them available to you from the get-go.




The classes can be a little intimidating to power up; basically when you gain a level, you get a point you can use to improve an aspect of the character, and they give you a lot of options. You may want to read up on the skills and such first, because getting certain skills unlocks others; though it doesn't tell you what you need to power up before certain skills get unlocked.

The nice thing is that you can have a ton of characters and just switch out party members as needed. I initially had a troubador, but my party wasnt doing enough damage, so I switched her out with a survivalist, and things went a lot better. I still have the troubadour just chilling in case I want to switch back, so though the game is difficult, there is some flexibility.

edit: sorry I missed part of your question. The classes are all pretty balanced, though some have certain situations where they are more or less useful. Alchemists are pretty much the heavy damage casters, but they suck up MP like crazy, so during most encounters they will be smacking with their crappy stick for 5 damage. When it comes to FOEs (minibosees) and strata bosses (every 5 floors or so), they are super useful, rocking out 150ish per spell. There is a tank-style warrior who can taunt and has a ton of damage, also very useful for bosses, but not as good for regular fights, though certainly more useful than an alchemist. Of course your party will need a healer, who can't damage either, but you won't make it much past level 15 without one.

I've heard of people having 2 groups, one designed for cutting through floors and exploring, and one designed to deal huge damage to a single target. I havn't unlocked either or the extra characters, but I assume they are just like gravy chars; if anyone has either of them and actually knows, i'm curious to know as well.

Kanthos
06-05-2007, 06:51 PM
I currently have 11 characters and will add another two once I unlock the Ronin and Hexer classes. My main is a Landsknecht (warrior type; their best skill is a passive one that lets them hit twice about 30% of the time when you get it to level 10), Protector (screw taunt, it's useless so far; they hit just about as well as my Landsknecht except when he double-hits; their big strength is Defender which significantly buffs defense for everyone in the party), Alchemist (mage type), Medic (healer, obviously needed; I suggest you pick skills to get revive level 1 as fast as possible), and Survivalist (archer-type; Appollon is my biggest damage-dealer; a boosted appollon does about 350-400 damage right now). These characters are between level 28 and 30 and are currently on level 9 of the dungeon.

I also have 4 other survivalists all around level 14. They can learn all three of the gathering skills (mine, chop, and take) so I'm maxing those out by running them two at a time through the labyrinth with my protector, landsknecht, and medic; when they're higher level I'll start taking skills to avoid combat so I can do quick harvesting runs with a group of 4 plus a protector in case things go wrong.

I also have a troubadour (bard, they do party buffs and enemy debuffs) and dark hunter (screw whips with them, get swords and learn drain, also get boost up), and will make a ronin and hexer when I unlock them. I haven't started either the troubadour or dark hunter yet; all I did was make the characters, but they're still at level 1. However, levelling someone with a high-level party is a snap; buy them the best gear you can and take them to a fairly deep floor in the dungeon. If you can keep them alive (you did learn revive on your medic, right?) they'll level really fast.

The ronin and hexer classes aren't really necessary, I'd think; as long as you have a medic and have levelled enough, you should be fine with a balanced party.

I'll be glad to talk strategy and exact builds; I've already worked out my builds for the 7 main classes after looking at discussion on the Gamespot forums, and I know what to take and why, and why avoiding certain things is a good idea. Perhaps that belongs in a separate thread though.

Imagist
06-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Why is it that the fifth chapter of Phoenix Wright was so awesome gameplay wise but so lackluster story wise?

Whatever, time to shell out another $30 for the sequel.

atmuh
06-05-2007, 07:48 PM
because it was a throw in
not in the original game

eternal Zero
06-05-2007, 08:09 PM
Etrian Odyssey: How do you know the skill trees? I'm assuming the standard you go online to check them out, but are they presented in game? That would be incredible if you could know all the skills and prereqs ahead of time.

Phoenix Wright: That fifth chapter was a lot of fun, but unfortunately I don't think the sequel was up to par with the series although it added more puzzles to solve so when you were investigating it wasn't -as- boring. Though in retrospect, those mini-puzzles made the actual trials easier because it allowed you to look at the evidence objectively before the trial forced you to.

Kanthos
06-05-2007, 08:16 PM
They are presented in-game, although not really as a tree format. But you can go into Custom on the menu (which is where you spend skill points to learn skills) and select a skill for which you don't have the prereqs yet and it tells you what the prereqs are.

eternal Zero
06-05-2007, 08:18 PM
That seriously is amazing. I hate games where they don't tell you any of the prereqs before you start pumping points into skills.

The Author
06-05-2007, 08:20 PM
I am seriously getting interested in that game now. I guess you can put a lot of time in it, but is it time consuming in the sense that you have to play for hours or can you simply pick it up an play once in a while.

eternal Zero
06-05-2007, 08:23 PM
I've read it forces you to spend time on it because you can't save at any point except the town. This excites and worries me. I mean, just imagine spending so much time going down the levels of the dungeon only to die and get screwed either by Game Over or by spending way too much en (I think that's the currency.) reviving your chars.

Kanthos
06-05-2007, 09:05 PM
I've only died once so far, and that was by taking on an FOE on the third floor that I wasn't ready for and I didn't try to escape the battle.

As for money, if you make a team of survivalists to farm item points, you make money really quickly. There's a chop point that's easily accessible on the first floor once you've explored the floor (there's a door from the starting room to the chop point room that you can only use once you go through it from the chop point room). Make a team of 5 level 1 survivalists, give them all 3 points each in chop (you start at 3 skill points and then get 1 more per level), and run them into the room, farm, sleep at the in, repeat. They'll rarely, if ever, get in a fight doing that; it's about 16 steps round trip from the door to the item point, and you'll make about 600 en per trip.

There are similar strategies on other floors, although you'll need to level your farmers a bit to make it to them safely. Another example is on floor 6; you can get right to floor 6 and hit two or three item points pretty easily and come out with a ton of stuff to sell.

As for saving, it's not really a big deal. Firstly, you get an item called warp wire after you finish the first mission (explore and map the first floor). Each costs 100 en, but you can use it to return to town from wherever you are. Think you're going to die? Escape the battle and use a warp wire. Secondly, there are a few places in the dungeon where you get full healing for free; so far, there's a hexer on level 3 who appears there until you defeat the boss on level 5, and there's a spring on level 8. Lastly, every 5 levels you move to a new stratum, and with each new stratum you gain the ability to warp from town to the beginning of that stratum and alternately to warp back out again for free from the warp point. So to get down to level 8, for example, you just have to go through level 6 and 7, not all 8. The game is unforgiving if you don't bring along a warp wire (have one with you always), but as long as you do, you'll rarely be in the dungeon long enough that not being able to save is a huge problem.

KakTheInfected
06-05-2007, 09:32 PM
Planet Puzzle League FC: 481135 619382

Bahamut
06-05-2007, 09:58 PM
I'll get my FC sometime tonight for PPL.

I played one free play match so far, raped the guy, and now I can't select Novice Battle anymore :cry: . I wish there were more online modes though...

Drack
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Planet Puzzle League FC: 481135 619382

Ok, So the format is xxxxxx-xxxxxx for this game? Database (http://drack.1111mb.com/index.php) updated, thanks. Feel free to add your code there :)

Arek the Absolute
06-05-2007, 10:18 PM
Once again, just a friendly reminder to all you DS fans to post your friend codes in the new clanocr database that Drack linked in his post above.

Use it to store your friend codes or to find someone elses. It is a great little thing to have, so go ahead and abuse the heck out of it :D

UnforgivingEdges
06-06-2007, 01:44 AM
I am seriously getting interested in that game now. I guess you can put a lot of time in it, but is it time consuming in the sense that you have to play for hours or can you simply pick it up an play once in a while.

You can do either. Once you start playing it, though, you won't want to put it down.

OA
06-06-2007, 03:34 AM
I play Etrian Odyssey on the ride to work in the morning and when im listening back on mixes and stuff that I am working on.
100 en is not a ton of cash, or you could just close the DS as well. If you like the old school style dungeon crawlers, this one is about as good as i've played.

Linkjing Donuts
06-06-2007, 03:41 AM
ds browser is slow as fuck, but still awesome


also posting from my ds

MaGi_TekK
06-06-2007, 04:17 AM
Hey bahamut, lets play sometime, all the american people online suck and can't survive 2 seconds against em. Find my friend code in the database!

Bahamut
06-06-2007, 04:46 AM
Hey bahamut, lets play sometime, all the american people online suck and can't survive 2 seconds against em. Find my friend code in the database!

I grabbed your FC, IM me sometime or find me in #ocremix or #clanocr

The Author
06-06-2007, 01:23 PM
I play Etrian Odyssey on the ride to work in the morning and when im listening back on mixes and stuff that I am working on.
100 en is not a ton of cash, or you could just close the DS as well. If you like the old school style dungeon crawlers, this one is about as good as i've played.

I can't remember liking them back then, but I was a kid. Nowadays I like varied gaming experiences. And I feel it could be a nice complement to EVE online. Mining can get boring and I'm setting up a mining operation.

OA
06-06-2007, 02:35 PM
I can't remember liking them back then, but I was a kid. Nowadays I like varied gaming experiences. And I feel it could be a nice complement to EVE online. Mining can get boring and I'm setting up a mining operation.


That's part of the beauty of a DS, the games are all pretty reasonably priced, so if you grab one and it's not quite for you, it wasn't quite the $50 investment. Etrian Odyssey is pretty good for doing it while doing other things, since it is a turn based battle system. Just close the DS or leave it going while you do something else, then come back to is as needed. :-)

Dhsu
06-06-2007, 07:54 PM
Does Planet Puzzle League have stylus and pad control? And if so, which is easier?

Drack
06-06-2007, 07:56 PM
Does Planet Puzzle League have stylus and pad control? And if so, which is easier?

It does both. IMO stylus is much easier to use.

I still like meteos much better .. /grumble

Bahamut
06-06-2007, 08:11 PM
Does Planet Puzzle League have stylus and pad control? And if so, which is easier?

I'm too used to the d-pad to even really use the stylus...it seems some of the really good players are using the d-pad too.

Edit: So I'm 33-4 so far I think in ranked matches...and wtf is with competent and pretty good players getting scared off? I've had 2-3 disconnects in the middle of the game so far.

Dhsu
06-06-2007, 09:23 PM
A solid 13x chain tends to have that effect on people who thought they were good. :P

Kanthos
06-06-2007, 10:03 PM
Still sitting on the fence between getting Planet Puzzle League and sticking with my wife's copy of Meteos (or getting my own so I don't have to put up with the Disney version. She only got it because it was a trade-in copy and was cheap). Drack, why do you like Meteos better? Bahamut, which do you recommend and why?

Dhsu
06-06-2007, 10:18 PM
I'm not Bahamut, but there really isn't a question as to which game is better: Puzzle League wins hands down. It's just infinitely more deep than Meteos could ever be.

Drack
06-06-2007, 10:24 PM
Still sitting on the fence between getting Planet Puzzle League and sticking with my wife's copy of Meteos (or getting my own so I don't have to put up with the Disney version. She only got it because it was a trade-in copy and was cheap). Drack, why do you like Meteos better? Bahamut, which do you recommend and why?

I like Meteos better because it's more frantic, fast-paced, and action packed. While I'm not denying in the least that PPL requires you to think fast, it kind of "locks up" for a second whenever you make a trio, giving you a chance to combo but at the same time stopping the growth of stuff from below you. You can't even force it with the L+R combo.

With Meteos, if I'm on a roll, you bet I'm holding L and having the game throw everything it can at me while I combo it right back. Constantly fearful of death, I'm making moves as fast as I can think of them. Step jumping ignitions and building up bigger and bigger rockets, while having the game dump as much as possible onto the heap and shooting the whole damn thing at the enemy. That's classic. There is also so much diversity (dare I say, depth?) between the various planets.

With PPL, it's more of a set up. You make a trio, the game kind of pauses and lets you think of how you can combo it. It's more about strategy than action and reaction speed. The game will even give you hints in the form of an arrow telling you to move a block this way to that when it falls it makes another trio. The comboing system of PPL is more similar to Puyo Puyo than it is to Meteos: You get a combo if when the blocks that fall form your last trio fall in such a way that they make another trio, as opposed to meteos's "secondary ignitions" where you make an ignition on or adjacent to one you've already made. It's a different style of play, and one I enjoy less than blowing stuff up.

Both games have excellent music.

there really isn't a question as to which game is betterYou are entitled to your opinion, but this comment reeks of "Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong."

Dhsu
06-06-2007, 10:57 PM
Of course, because it's true. :) There are few absolutes in the world, but there's no doubt that Tetris Attack is one of them.

atmuh
06-06-2007, 11:06 PM
i dont like tetris attack

captaineegee
06-07-2007, 12:38 AM
Is anyone interested in buying a DSlite, with 3 games? It works well and I have the original box it came in. Let me know if you are interested.

KakTheInfected
06-07-2007, 01:26 AM
PM Japan.

There are some insane people online in PPL. I didn't think I was good or anything but I certainly didn't get expect to get destroyed so badly by some of these guys.

Dhsu
06-07-2007, 02:18 AM
i dont like tetris attack
I bet you are also not good at it am i rite

Bahamut
06-07-2007, 02:35 AM
PM Japan.

There are some insane people online in PPL. I didn't think I was good or anything but I certainly didn't get expect to get destroyed so badly by some of these guys.

Yeah, I'm loving the challenge of online. So far I'm 77-8, and others who've seen me play at MAGfest earlier in the year know how good I am. I'm still dominating most of the good players though - some of them even disconnect on me midgame :-? .

And I just played 3 matches with MaGi_TekK, lost 1-2, but they were great matches.

UnforgivingEdges
06-07-2007, 03:03 AM
i dont like tetris attack

Neither do I.

Dhsu is lame; it's one of the absolutes in the world. See, I can do it too.

Dhsu
06-07-2007, 03:57 AM
At least I'm not an Atlus shill. ;)

vega12
06-07-2007, 04:47 AM
Does anyone know if I could play people with PPL games, when I have the Japanese one?

Also, it is my opinion that the stylus is the superior control mechanism. You can move about the screen quickly and accurately, as well as swap panels multiple squares rapidly and flawlessly. It's hard to do the small tricky moves, but for chaining, that small hurdle is easily outweighed by the mobility the stylus gives you.

Also, you can raise the stack while chaining. It's an option (at least in the Japanese version). This has allowed me to break 100,000 points on time trial with a 55+ chain and bonuses.

I just wish I had an easy way to get online to tear it up there! The only time I did get online, I played two matches against the same person for some reason, and they were completely new to the game.

Evilhead
06-07-2007, 05:28 AM
Yeah, some of the Japanese players are just insane... I thought I was pretty good at Puyo Puyo, but then I played the 15th Anniversary Collection online and damn... I was destroyed consistantly. These guys just throw out 10+ chains like they are nothing. But for some reason I kill everyone at Tetris.

Bahamut
06-07-2007, 05:34 AM
Yeah, some of the Japanese players are just insane... I thought I was pretty good at Puyo Puyo, but then I played the 15th Anniversary Collection online and damn... I was destroyed consistantly. These guys just throw out 10+ chains like they are nothing. But for some reason I kill everyone at Tetris.

Yeah, that's like me too - I didn't even notice I had a 22 chain in a battle before since I was on the phone, so I had to cut it off since anything at 12+ is a waste for garbage blocks and lets them raise up their screen to get the ! blocks to send you shock blocks with (which happened, but I still beat the guy handily anyway).


As for Kanthos's previous question on PPL vs. Meteos, of course it's a no brainer for me to pick PPL (being a huge Tetris Attack fan and all). Meteos just lacks depth and becomes more of a stylus frenzy than strategy, while PPL has well defined strategies and trumps Meteos in pure gameplay depth.

UnforgivingEdges
06-07-2007, 06:33 AM
At least I'm not an Atlus shill. ;)

Technically they're not paying me anymore. But it's hard to deny that they've been releasing some seriously kick ass games in the past year or so.

Broken
06-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Man, now y'all are getting me excited about puzzle games again. I went and played Kamoh in some old school Tetris yesterday. Good times.

You know, when I think about it, puzzle games and fighting games have many similarities. At their heart, they're both just about out-smarting your opponent (like many games are of course), but they also require knowledge of their respective rules/ complex systems and quick reaction time at higher levels. Not to mention both genres usually are known for their interesting artistic direction (ie. Tetris Attack, Guilty Gear, Lumines, Jo Jo's Bizzare Advenure)




Mind games.

eternal Zero
06-07-2007, 06:41 PM
That logic seems to be at the base of all games capable of high-level competitive play in my opinion. In theory, if you know the game enough and can read people well you can be good at the game. This doesn't bring physical factors such as quick eyes or reaction time into play however.

atmuh
06-07-2007, 07:18 PM
for my puzzles on my ds i just play bust a move ds
because bust a move is the best puzzle game ever

Dhsu
06-07-2007, 07:33 PM
OOo, didn't know they had it on DS, must go pick it up sometime.

atmuh
06-07-2007, 07:42 PM
yes get it
i thought i was terrible at first because you had to pull back like a slingshot and aim with the stylus
but then i realized you could turn that off and just play regular
and its quite good

Dhsu
06-07-2007, 07:46 PM
Is there Wi-Fi? TELL ME YES.

atmuh
06-07-2007, 07:47 PM
n o

Kanthos
06-07-2007, 07:52 PM
My wife has Bust-A-Move, and I prefer it with the stylus actually. No Wifi is a disappointment, but we play locally once in a while.

Dr. Wilhelm
06-08-2007, 12:12 PM
Wow, nice to see such a huge discussion here on the DS (I'm new here), especially since I come in on one of my favorite topics, puzzle games.

I'm pretty much in love with my DS at the moment, it gets more attention than the other mess of consoles laying around my room.

Current titles I own are:
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Dragon Quest Heroes Rocket Slime
Elite Beat Agents
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales
Kirby Squeek Squad
Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice for All
Pokemon: Pearl Version
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
Resident Evil Deadly Silence
Starfox Command
Touch the Dead
Yoshi's Island DS

Not much of a collection yet but I'm working on it, which brings me to a question... any recommendations? I'm open to all genres for the most part, and a lot of the games at the store I work at are on discount for $18, so maybe there's a gem there I don't know about? Thanks.

Also, is it at all sad I spend most of my break time at work to play Ouendan rather than eat food?

Schwaltzvald
06-08-2007, 12:30 PM
Got Tetris DS, since I never bought any other variation except for the original Tetris for the old grey brick. It brought a tear to my eye and made me very happy :D

great game to play while waiting for my computer to run its anti-virus scans and waiting for other stuff to finish.

Kanthos
06-08-2007, 04:25 PM
I picked up a copy of Planet Puzzle League last night. Much much better than Meteos. My wife has it today, since she's trying it out to see if she wants a copy too, but I'm quite impressed with it from the 45 minutes I was able to play for.

supremespleen
06-08-2007, 04:51 PM
Normally I'm not one for WWII games, but this (http://ds.ign.com/articles/794/794621p1.html) looks pretty damn sweet.

UnforgivingEdges
06-08-2007, 11:15 PM
Not much of a collection yet but I'm working on it, which brings me to a question... any recommendations? I'm open to all genres for the most part, and a lot of the games at the store I work at are on discount for $18, so maybe there's a gem there I don't know about? Thanks.


Etrian Odyssey

Dr. Wilhelm
06-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Etrian Odyssey

A friend of mine picked this up recently and seems to be enjoying it so far. I'm in the market for a new RPG to play actually so prehaps I will check this out, thanks.

OA
06-09-2007, 05:38 AM
that Etrian Odyssey

so hot right now!

Broken
06-09-2007, 05:42 AM
Wow, nice to see such a huge discussion here on the DS (I'm new here), especially since I come in on one of my favorite topics, puzzle games.

I'm pretty much in love with my DS at the moment, it gets more attention than the other mess of consoles laying around my room.

Current titles I own are:
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Dragon Quest Heroes Rocket Slime
Elite Beat Agents
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales
Kirby Squeek Squad
Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice for All
Pokemon: Pearl Version
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
Resident Evil Deadly Silence
Starfox Command
Touch the Dead
Yoshi's Island DS

Not much of a collection yet but I'm working on it, which brings me to a question... any recommendations? I'm open to all genres for the most part, and a lot of the games at the store I work at are on discount for $18, so maybe there's a gem there I don't know about? Thanks.

Also, is it at all sad I spend most of my break time at work to play Ouendan rather than eat food?

Advance Wars DS. I've only played it a few times, but it seems to be made with the same quality gameplay and presentation that the first two games are full of.

Kanthos
06-09-2007, 06:03 AM
Advance Wars DS. I've only played it a few times, but it seems to be made with the same quality gameplay and presentation that the first two games are full of.

Good luck finding that game, but if you get a copy, it's great. I second Etrian Odyssey and also suggest Planet Puzzle League and Clubhouse Games.

Imagist
06-10-2007, 07:20 PM
I got Phoenix Wright 2 last night and while the music so far is cheesy, it's not horrible. I don't have much time to play today but tomorrow night should be a blast.

atmuh
06-10-2007, 07:27 PM
I got Phoenix Wright 2 last night and while the music so far is cheesy, it's not horrible. I don't have much time to play today but tomorrow night should be a blast.

just finished this game yesterday
the music gets better and better as you go and the writing is better than the first in my opinion
so yeah go for it

south pacific islander
06-10-2007, 07:33 PM
The game is good. The last case was really intresting and I actually enjoyed the plot twist.

atmuh
06-10-2007, 07:38 PM
I actually enjoyed the plot twist.

how can you not

Imagist
06-10-2007, 09:12 PM
just finished this game yesterday
the music gets better and better as you go and the writing is better than the first in my opinion
so yeah go for it

I think anything short of Zero Wing has better writing than the last episode of the first game. I was trying to keep a tally of misspellings and awful grammar and incorrect punctuation, but I got tired after a while and just wanted to get through the ordeal once and for all.

atmuh
06-10-2007, 09:36 PM
in the original version there were only 4 cases
the fifth was a throw in to use some DS features so it actually wasnt supposed to be in the game
i liked it though

in case 3 of jfa there was a moment where i laughed out loud pretty hard

Warmech
06-10-2007, 10:36 PM
Yeah, Turnabout Big Top had a lot of lulz.

Now that I think of it all these cases had some good plot twists. I personally think the big plot twist at the end of the second case was the biggest. I think my jaw might have dropped on that one.

atmuh
06-11-2007, 02:37 AM
Yeah, Turnabout Big Top had a lot of lulz.

Now that I think of it all these cases had some good plot twists. I personally think the big plot twist at the end of the second case was the biggest. I think my jaw might have dropped on that one.

there was no way to guess it

Warmech
06-11-2007, 03:24 AM
no way jose

Imagist
06-11-2007, 04:25 AM
in the original version there were only 4 cases
the fifth was a throw in to use some DS features so it actually wasnt supposed to be in the game
i liked it though

ya weve been over this

It was good gameplay and somewhat interesting story but also very unpolished (too obviously tacked on) and, once all the characters were introduced, completely predictable.

Czar Diego
06-11-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm in need of a good racer besides Mario Kart. Any suggestions?
Also, I enjoyed Castlevania PoR immensely, and was wondering about the similarities and differences between it and the other DS game.

Also, to Dr. Wilhelm, get Mario Kart and Tetris DS. They're amazing, especially in multiplayer.

eternal Zero
06-11-2007, 07:40 PM
DoS was a great game. Similar in gameplay to Jon, but it has it's own little twist on magic and the like. After unlocking 100% in both games, I can definitely say you get a greater feeling of omnipotence in DoS than you do in PoR.

Ultranoir
06-12-2007, 02:34 AM
Also, to Dr. Wilhelm, get Mario Kart and Tetris DS. They're amazing, especially in multiplayer.

He sold it to get Pokémon Pearl Version actually. :-( But don't think any less of the guy - it was a good idea at the time, considering everyone was pretty "ZOMG!" on Pokémon (though that didn't last).

I want to pick it up myself. Like most of the DS' Nintendo official games, it's just a pick-up & play fun time.

DoS was a great game. Similar in gameplay to Jon, but it has it's own little twist on magic and the like. After unlocking 100% in both games, I can definitely say you get a greater feeling of omnipotence in DoS than you do in PoR.

Such is the difference between a Belmont and what Soma Cruz is (for those who haven't played the game yet).

My DS collection isn't too extenstive, but it's mostly full of games I consider have replayability and pick-up value, which is really important for a hand-held.

Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney: Justice For All (labeled under A for Capcom's attempts to make it stand out as the title)
Cooking Mama
Elite Beat Agents
Final Fantasy III
Mario Hoops 3 on 3
Pokemon Diamond Version
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence
Touch The Dead

Not a very large collection, as most of the play-&-finish games my friends decide to buy, so I just sort of take a lend of their games and play or finish them. I need to pick up some more pick-up and play games like Tetris and Mario Kart, but other than that, not bad for a frugal shopper like myself.

KakTheInfected
06-20-2007, 09:11 PM
Anyone else playing Japanaese Phantom Hourglass? It looks AMAZING.

q-pa
06-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Anyone else playing Japanaese Phantom Hourglass? It looks AMAZING.
Whoa, it's out already??

Let me get on that pronto!

Darth GourryGN
06-20-2007, 09:40 PM
Time Ace is a good StarFox clone. And only $20 too.

JoeFu
06-20-2007, 09:41 PM
Whoa, it's out already??

Let me get on that pronto!



In Japan its out this weekend, but I think kak downloaded it though.

Penfold
06-20-2007, 09:48 PM
Anyone else playing Japanaese Phantom Hourglass? It looks AMAZING.

I read the gameplay is really great too, despite most people's initial reaction to the stylus control and whatnot. Personally, after playing some Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales, all-stylus control has really grown on me.

Dexie
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2007_06_21_Sonic_DS/

Wait, WHAT? O_o

Bioware? Doing a SONIC game? An RPG at that?

Did the world just flip upside down or something? I'm confused here...

Dhsu
06-21-2007, 05:59 PM
Did the world just get flipturned upside down or something?
Fix'd. :lol:

Imagist
06-21-2007, 06:12 PM
So most of Phoenix Wright: Justice For All has actually been pretty predictable so far, except maybe the final twist of the second case, but this last case just has been going absolutely bonkers. I have no idea what the hell is going on yet, and I think I'm pretty far into it.

Arek the Absolute
06-21-2007, 06:15 PM
Fix'd. :lol:

gg

Honestly, a Sonic RPG just makes it sound like Sega is trying to be more like Mario. Just because Mario had 3 successful RPG's so far does not mean that Sega should immediately think that Sonic could do the same. This is going to be one interesting game, that is for sure. If anything though, we know that this game will sell like hot cakes because there is a huge sonic fanbase out there that eats up any sonic game that is produced.

Drack
06-21-2007, 06:17 PM
gg

Honestly, a Sonic RPG just makes it sound like Sega is trying to be more like Mario. Just because Mario had 3 successful RPG's so far does not mean that Sega should immediately think that Sonic could do the same. This is going to be one interesting game, that is for sure. If anything though, we know that this game will sell like hot cakes because there is a huge sonic fanbase out there that eats up any sonic game that is produced.

More like 6.

Super Mario RPG
Paper Mario
Paper Mario TTYD
Super Paper Mario (debatable, but RPG doesn't necessarily imply turn-based)
Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time

Arek the Absolute
06-21-2007, 06:27 PM
More like 6.

Super Mario RPG
Paper Mario
Paper Mario TTYD
Super Paper Mario (debatable, but RPG doesn't necessarily imply turn-based)
Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time

Completely forgot about the portable ones. Also, I consider Super Paper Mario more of an Action RPG.

Kanthos
06-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Anyone playing Chocobo Tales? I'm on the final boss, and overall it's been quite a good game, although there are a few minigames that have made me want to pull my hair out and I still can't finish them. The only other minigame collection I've played is Bomberman Land Touch, and this one is better, in my opinion. A few less games involving blowing in the microphone (only two), and the card game battles add a neat strategy component. I just don't like that there's 3 or 4 cards I can't get because I can't seem to get a gold rating on the minigames needed to unlock them, but besides that, quite enjoyable.

JoeFu
06-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Roft at bioware/sega sonic rpg. I wonder what it'll be like. Bioware are the guys that made KOTOR right?

Ero Elohim
06-21-2007, 07:31 PM
Roft at bioware/sega sonic rpg. I wonder what it'll be like. Bioware are the guys that made KOTOR right?

And Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, and the upcoming Mass Effect.

JoeFu
06-21-2007, 07:37 PM
I just know that their known for western RPGs, so I wonder if Sonic RPG will play like one.

Dhsu
06-21-2007, 07:45 PM
I sure hope so.

KWarp
06-21-2007, 08:03 PM
Sonic RPG makes sense to me, Sonic Western RPG does not. I predict more info at E3.

Kanthos
06-21-2007, 09:08 PM
And Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, and the upcoming Mass Effect.

And Neverwinter Nights

watkinzez
06-22-2007, 03:06 AM
The Tingle RPG is getting an English release! (http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/798/798270p1.html) Hell yeah! :grin:

Dhsu
06-22-2007, 05:00 AM
w00000000t

SetzerGabbiani
06-22-2007, 06:36 AM
I wont let that happen.

Also,

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/mastersword15/2bb860e7301f4e1ef546942a4881fdbd.gif

LOLOMGBBQZZ!!!1111

Damn that's funny

watkinzez
06-22-2007, 06:57 AM
You made me think Klowd was back. :(

Drack
06-22-2007, 01:53 PM
<obligatory>http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/02/eatsmoney.gif</obligatory>

eternal Zero
06-22-2007, 01:59 PM
And Neverwinter Nights

But not NWN 2... :cry:

AMT
06-22-2007, 04:58 PM
Brothers in Arms DS:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20836.html

This looks amazing. Zelda has been tempting me to buy a DS again, and this plus Pokemon plus Planet Puzzle League plus the recently announced Contra 4 might just push me to do it...

Darth GourryGN
06-22-2007, 09:52 PM
Welcome to Darth GourryGN (GN:get naked? see page 334) Gaming Magazine of Terror that Nobody Ordered but Your Money Has Left Your Bank Account Anyway HAHAHAHA issue 3 1/3.
For great justice, some games you should buy:

Brothers in Arms DS is not too shabby. Of course it is short and has no online multiplayer and has a low framerate and stupid AI, but as far as WWII shooters on the DS go, it is the best (not that there is a lot to choose from). If you've played a WWII shooter, you know what to expect. I guess it is different from other Brothers in Arms games in that it is a third person shooter and you don't get to command anyone. If you like shooting stupid Nazis using good Metroid Prime Hunters style controls, and I think that's most sane people, then you'll like this game. Once again, it's very short (5-6 hours) though.
Rating: 3.9 hand grenades (hey put the pin back in that one!) out of 5.

Time Ace is a fun Star Fox 64 style game that professional game reviewers do not seem to like. It seems that like Freedom Wings (another DS budget flight game that I love), they all decided to play it for 15 minutes then review it. It is a budget game, but it is better than most full price DS games, so for $20 you can give professional game reviewers and companies that overcharge for crap the finger and get a fun game. The game throws a lot of enemies at you and has no slowdown at all (but with a relatively short draw distance, like StarFox Command), and I found the writing to be kind of funny. The game is a bit short, but shooters tend to be. Very fun game.
Rating: "I am not a professional so that's why you can totally trust me" out of 7.

Transformers for DS surprised me. From what I can tell I am sober, and it is shockingly not crap. I played the Decepticons version (yup, two versions of the game), and you basically get to run around GTA style, blowing crap up, finding new vehicles to scan and turn into, and picking up Autobyte (lol) grunts and beating them with their own comrades. You gain experience and level up from missions and killing enemies (or civilians). The game really reminds me of Grand Theft Auto III. You even have a meter in the top right hand corner of the screen showing the "threat level" that you pose, and the police have a few funny phrases ("We are under attack by a giant, uh, metal man. Please advise.") that they say. The game is fully voiced and the voice acting is good. Also you can pick up Autobots and use them as a club to beat other 'bots. I guess I already said that. It's fun.
Rating: "I like hitting them with their own guys" out of AllSpark.

I haven't played the online mode for Transformers yet, but there apparently is one, and track will be kept of which side is winning the war, I hear.

I'm playing Zelda, and it looks nice. It's too bad it has to be the overhead viewpoint, because in my opinion it detracts from the visual side of things slightly. However, the stylus-only controls are really nice. Physically slashing at enemies is fun, and it has never been easier to throw rocks at people and chickens. A nice feature is the ability to write on the map. So you can vent frustrations by writing curse words on the locations that give you trouble. And I hope you like having a faerie saying "Hey, hey" at you, because it finds you... just kidding... or am I?

And finally:
This. (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/hannahmontana2/news.html?sid=6172683)
Sounds like some nice features buried in some licensed crap.
Why can't I get a nice music making game for my DS without it being in Japanese or completely imasculating or woefully lacking features or asinine or imasculating or exploding in your face and melting your hands or...

*end communication*

atmuh
06-22-2007, 10:22 PM
Welcome to Darth GourryGN (GN:get naked? see page 334) Gaming Magazine of Terror that Nobody Ordered but Your Money Has Left Your Bank Account Anyway HAHAHAHA issue 3 1/3.

what

I'm playing Zelda, and it looks nice. It's too bad it has to be the overhead viewpoint, because in my opinion it detracts from the visual side of things slightly. However, the stylus-only controls are really nice. Physically slashing at enemies is fun, and it has never been easier to throw rocks at people and chickens. A nice feature is the ability to write on the map. So you can vent frustrations by writing curse words on the locations that give you trouble. And I hope you like having a faerie saying "Hey, hey" at you, because it finds you... just kidding... or am I?

i knew from the trailer nintendo was going to throw this crap at us
after playing twilight princess all i want to swing the sword is a freaking button

KakTheInfected
06-22-2007, 10:34 PM
After playing through 4 dungeons I can safely say there is no reason why you would want to play with traditional controls in this game. Everything is so fast and accurate with the touch screen.

q-pa
06-22-2007, 10:45 PM
after playing twilight princess all i want to swing the sword is a freaking button
Get the Gamecube edition of Twilight Princess ;-)

Darth GourryGN
06-22-2007, 10:54 PM
what


http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5367/panandzoom1mj7.gif

OA
06-23-2007, 12:15 AM
ok, contra 4 is 4 players at once WTF why did no one tell me this?

This has gone from something I was probably going to get to a must-have title.

FF tactics 2 looks pretty nice as well, though I hope the story is more like the original and not FFTA.

edit: Looks like OCR got a shoutout in the contra 4 interview in nintendo power. GG OCR.

Drack
06-25-2007, 07:26 PM
Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is AWESOME.

But you CANNOT play it without a good knowledge of Japanese. Way too much depends on the text to wing it. It's a good thing I have a fluent friend I can spend weekends with.

q-pa
06-25-2007, 08:43 PM
Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is AWESOME.

But you CANNOT play it without a good knowledge of Japanese. Way too much depends on the text to wing it. It's a good thing I have a fluent friend I can spend weekends with.

Yeah, I'm like under 10 minutes into it and I'm already stuck.
Any idea how to get past that broken bridge thingy? I don't even have a damn sword yet...

Drack
06-25-2007, 09:18 PM
Yeah, I'm like under 10 minutes into it and I'm already stuck.
Any idea how to get past that broken bridge thingy? I don't even have a damn sword yet...

Highlight for the puzzle *The first puzzle is to write down the number of trees on the island.*

Highlight for the solution *Write a 7 with the touch screen.*

But you're gonna need help like that every step of the way if you don't get the text. Forget it until there's at least a minimal fan translation.

If you've got your heart set on going further, highlight for more solutions, but this is all you're gonna get.

*Say hello into the mic in the house. English "Hello" works*
*You need to mark the map with the locations of the fires to open the door.*

I'm sure GameFAQs will have all the spoilers required to get a decent amount into the game by now.

q-pa
06-27-2007, 10:42 PM
...
But you're gonna need help like that every step of the way if you don't get the text. Forget it until there's at least a minimal fan translation.

...
I'm sure GameFAQs will have all the spoilers required to get a decent amount into the game by now.Oh, I see. Standard exploration ain't gonna cut it anymore...
Damn you for being innovative, Nintendo! ;-)

If it's going to be this much trouble, I think I'll just wait for the English version. I never got to play the GBA version of Link to the Past, maybe I'll pick that up while I'm waiting.

Black Mage
06-28-2007, 03:45 PM
I was talking with some co-workers yesterday, all of whom are about my age (mid-20's) and was astounded that none of them had ever heard of the DS. Is it just the people I know, or is there a general lack of knowledge about the DS?

Penfold
06-28-2007, 03:54 PM
I was talking with some co-workers yesterday, all of whom are about my age (mid-20's) and was astounded that none of them had ever heard of the DS. Is it just the people I know, or is there a general lack of knowledge about the DS?

Huh, weird. All I know is my friends and co-workers of similar age at least know about the DS, if not own one. Even my mom heard of the DS separate from me, since she heard about Brain Age and wanted it for that (she bought it, then my grandparents tried it out and bought one too).

Neo Samus
06-28-2007, 03:54 PM
I was talking with some co-workers yesterday, all of whom are about my age (mid-20's) and was astounded that none of them had ever heard of the DS. Is it just the people I know, or is there a general lack of knowledge about the DS?

Almost everyone I know has at least "heard" of the DS. I think it's the people you know. The DS is huge in America (but we already knew that). That is strange that they haven't even heard of it. Do they know about the Wii?

Black Mage
06-28-2007, 04:13 PM
Yeah, they know about the Wii, though the just call it "that new Nintendo." Maybe the DS thing has to do with so many people still calling it a GameBoy. So when I mention a DS, they don't quite comprehend that the DS is not technically in the GameBoy line (for some reason).

Neo Samus
06-28-2007, 04:32 PM
"That new Nintendo" LOL I love when people don't the name of something and call it "that new thing"

Bigfoot
06-28-2007, 05:30 PM
I dunno about you guys, but I'm excited for Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 coming out for the DS with online play. Those were the best MK games, not this 3D crap.

OA
06-28-2007, 07:40 PM
I dunno about you guys, but I'm excited for Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 coming out for the DS with online play. Those were the best MK games, not this 3D crap.

I never was a fan of Mortal Kombat games, but any DS game that has online play is cool in my book. I wish puzzle quest had online play; my wife and I have been playing the hell out of it, but on the same card, and no one nearby is nearly as far as we are (level 45 or so), so we can't challenge (aka pwn) anyone. :/

q-pa
06-28-2007, 08:14 PM
"That new Nintendo" LOL
Yes, because we all know the Wii is the immediate successor to the original "Nintendo," the NES (for those old enough to remember when the name was synonymous with all video games)

More like the New New New NEW Nintendo!

Maybe the DS thing has to do with so many people still calling it a GameBoy. So when I mention a DS, they don't quite comprehend that the DS is not technically in the GameBoy line (for some reason).If I remember correctly, the DS was not originally intended as a successor to the Gameboy Advance; it was going to be it's own line. But due to the DS's success and the GBA's limitations (and maybe influence from the PSP ;-)) I guess it's playing the role anyway.


Edit:I dunno about you guys, but I'm excited for Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 coming out for the DS with online play. Those were the best MK games, not this 3D crap.I wouldn't be so optimistic if I were you. They have a very bad track record with portable games and ports in general. MK Advance, anyone?

And why couldn't they just port MK2, which the vast majority agree is the best in the series anyway?

Bigfoot
06-28-2007, 10:58 PM
Screens of Contra 4 are up.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3160665


I want I want I want I want

The Damned
06-29-2007, 12:52 AM
Screens of Contra 4 are up.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3160665


I want I want I want I want

I will only get it if the old Komani code is put in there, and I can use it anytime I want/need to.

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start FTW!

Bahamut
06-29-2007, 03:13 AM
Even better, virt is doing the soundtrack of Contra 4, so I'm definitely picking the game up.

BardicKnowledge
06-29-2007, 05:33 AM
^^ Agreed. When I saw that Virt was doing the music, I was pumped. Might actually go out and buy this one (as opposed to flash-carting it).

Soma
06-29-2007, 06:51 AM
I dunno about you guys, but I'm excited for Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 coming out for the DS with online play. Those were the best MK games, not this 3D crap.
Think that's the one that's available on xbox live arcade, i already bought that one but it's neat that it's coming for DS too. Contra 4 looks pretty cool i was never a contra fan though.

Bigfoot
06-30-2007, 05:27 AM
Contra 4 DS in action in different sections of this video.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/12644


Now this is the Contra that I've known and loved.

Avatar of Justice
06-30-2007, 06:53 AM
Contra 4 DS in action in different sections of this video.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/12644


Now this is the Contra that I've known and loved.

The writeup over at 1up about Contra 4 was funny in that they conveniently ignored Contra Shattered Solider and just went on and on about how no true Contra sequel has appeared. I mean it doesn't have the spread gun, but it played like Contra to me. And it was harder than fuck.

Nicholestien
06-30-2007, 05:51 PM
anyone play mario kart?

The Damned
06-30-2007, 06:26 PM
Frequently.

Nicholestien
07-01-2007, 12:29 PM
up for a few games later today?

q-pa
07-02-2007, 03:10 AM
I'm always up for some Mario Kart. Find me on #ocremix or--more frequently--AIM.

KWarp
07-02-2007, 07:29 AM
I acquired Band Brothers at Anime Expo. Kinda regretting the purchase. Two thumbs is a little too limited for faster music. I see why Nintendo never really pushed the game.

Drack
07-02-2007, 02:06 PM
This hasn't been mentioned yet:

Mega Man ZX Advent is slated for a July 12 (J) release.

Looking forward to it.

The Damned
07-02-2007, 04:34 PM
So Zelda, Phantom Hourglass has been announced for North America on October 1st.

Link (pun intended) (http://kotaku.com/gaming/oh-snap%21/phantom-hourglass-dated-for-the-us-274166.php)

Bigfoot
07-02-2007, 07:38 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21065.html

I just noticed, after watching this video again, that there is no blood.

So lame.. it's Mortal Kombat for crying out loud. Hopefully there will be a blood code like the Genesis had for MK1.


I'm afraid if they ever did release a new Duke Nukem game that he'll be forced to say things like "I'll rip your head off and doo-doo down your neck".

Darth GourryGN
07-03-2007, 05:05 AM
Did I mention that Transformers is awesome on DS? It is buggy as hell and has no real online mode, but it kicks ass. It has a Pokemon feel to it not just with the two different versions but in finding new vehicles to turn into which kicks ass because it changes the look and weapons of your robot. School bus? Sure. Funky Bus? Hell yeah, firing purple plasma balls.

Anyone who is dying to make music on their DS should try NitroTracker (http://nitrotracker.tobw.net/). It is a tracker. I didn't really know anything about trackers but I thought it would be fun to try and figure it out. You can record samples using the DS microphone, which is all sorts of ear raping fun.

eternal Zero
07-03-2007, 05:35 AM
I'm thinking of upgrading to a DS Lite soon. Even though I've still got a fully functioning red DS in awesome condition, I'm convinced that a Lite definitely helps your gameplay. Seriously, I find the screen/stylus combo better and I do like the brighter screens. The main point of this post is to ask if you guys think that a redesign of the DS will be released at the next E3. There's been some chatter about it, and it's definitely worth waiting for...if it's really coming. Opinions?

KWarp
07-03-2007, 08:16 AM
I'm thinking of upgrading to a DS Lite soon. Even though I've still got a fully functioning red DS in awesome condition, I'm convinced that a Lite definitely helps your gameplay. Seriously, I find the screen/stylus combo better and I do like the brighter screens. The main point of this post is to ask if you guys think that a redesign of the DS will be released at the next E3. There's been some chatter about it, and it's definitely worth waiting for...if it's really coming. Opinions?
I'm against a redesign, whatever it is. I've heard they're actually making the screens bigger and more readable.

Drack
07-03-2007, 02:27 PM
I don't think there will be another redesign. The Lite is fine as is. The original DS needed it though.

And if there is one, I'm keeping my lite anyway.

The Damned
07-03-2007, 04:30 PM
Yeah, I just got a Lite about a month ago, and once I got that skin/protector cover on it, it's pretty damn nice.

A redesign now? Too soon. Way to soon. The Lite isn't exactly lacking in anything. The screens are pretty damn bright and clear, and the battery life is good. A redesign now would be pointless.

Bigfoot
07-03-2007, 07:48 PM
The redesign, if there is one, is geared towards older folks.

You know, like those phones with massive buttons.

Shining Mirage
07-03-2007, 10:53 PM
I purchased my DS lite maybe about a week or two ago and am very much satisfied with what I have. Now that I hear news of another DS variant, I'm wondering the true purpose in this?

Any news on what these spectacular changes will be...
(Other than the possibility of larger buttons, Like Bigfoot said...)

Soma
07-03-2007, 11:20 PM
I'm pretty happy with my DS Lite. It's funny though before i had my Lite i very rarely played DS. Maybe it just took that long for some interesting games to come out. I doubt there's a new redesign being revealed at e3 there probably will be some new colors though. I think i'm getting too old (22) to appreciate different colored handheld/consoles anymore. I owned 2 different GBA's and 2 different SP's. My lite and wii are both white and i could care less if they make new colors in the future, though i admit that a black wii could be very sexy.

Darth GourryGN
07-04-2007, 03:09 AM
I'm in the minority who don't see the DS Lite as an overall improvement. The brighter screens and longer battery life are nice, but the D-pad sucks, the size is too small, I'm not into the ipod look, those damn kids won't stop with their hip hop music and skatboarding, but I bought one (black is the only decent color so far) anyway.

I would be glad to see another redesign. It's not like I would have to buy it. But I probably would.

Also, that dirty stylus witch molestation game is coming out in Japan soon. Doki Doki Majo Shinpan (translation: WHAM! WHAM! Pound that Witch with Your Stylus For Great Justice).
The website is hilarious:

Are You Bad Person? (http://www.dokimajo.com/english/)

...

Very Yes

The Pezman
07-04-2007, 03:35 AM
One (hopefully) good thing about the iPhone is that it will signify the end of all things stylus, including the DS. Q-pa let me play his, but he told me I had to use the stylus on the touchscreen because... I don't quite remember why. But there was a reason, I'm almost sure of it.

The Damned
07-04-2007, 05:44 PM
So, the GameBoy Camera has be reincarnated (http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/07/nintendo-announ.html). Yay?

I see it uses the GBA slot. I mean, that's what the slot is there for, using accessories... but still sort of cool to see the slot actually doing something besides having a GBA cart sticking out.

Black Mage
07-04-2007, 06:11 PM
I purchased my DS lite maybe about a week or two ago and am very much satisfied with what I have. Now that I hear news of another DS variant, I'm wondering the true purpose in this?

$$$$$$$$$
If Nintendo releases a new DS, then a lot of people who already bought the DS and subsequently the DS Lite, would go out and buy the new new DS.

Marketing at its best...and most annoying.

Bahamut
07-04-2007, 08:03 PM
One (hopefully) good thing about the iPhone is that it will signify the end of all things stylus, including the DS. Q-pa let me play his, but he told me I had to use the stylus on the touchscreen because... I don't quite remember why. But there was a reason, I'm almost sure of it.

You could use your fingers on the touchscreen...but why would you dirty it up like that?

Hawkwing
07-04-2007, 08:09 PM
Stylus's are usually more accurate to use than fingers.

Thats a good reason.

Shining Mirage
07-04-2007, 08:15 PM
$$$$$$$$$
If Nintendo releases a new DS, then a lot of people who already bought the DS and subsequently the DS Lite, would go out and buy the new new DS.

Marketing at its best...and most annoying.

Best, you say? Making 3 variants of the same damned system in order to keep up with the damands of the already twisted industry.

Can you imagine what lines you're going to hear after this E3?

"Hey man, I got that new DS that so many of my friends wanted..."
"Oh, you mean the one that costs $20-30 more than the previous one..."

EDIT: *sighs* Whatever. I understand you, B.M.

Evilhead
07-05-2007, 12:59 AM
Best, you say? Making 3 variants of the same damned system in order to keep up with the damands of the already twisted industry.

Can you imagine what lines you're going to hear after this E3?

"Hey man, I got that new DS that so many of my friends wanted..."
"Oh, you mean the one that costs $20-30 more than the previous one..."

EDIT: *sighs* Whatever. I understand you, B.M.

Well, they did that with the GBA. I wouldn't say it's out of the question to see another DS remake down the line, but I'd say it would be at least a year or more from now.

Dhsu
07-05-2007, 04:49 AM
Yeah, I think a DS Micro is kind of inevitable. And it will shine with the light of a thousand suns.

Bigfoot
07-05-2007, 05:32 AM
Yeah, I think a DS Micro is kind of inevitable. And it will shine with the light of a thousand suns.

And the DS will just be one giant screen that includes both so there's no breakaway line. Buttons/dpad? Attatchment add-ons.

The Author
07-05-2007, 06:42 AM
DS Powerglove.

Dark Chocobo
07-05-2007, 07:08 AM
DS Powerglove.

That would be so BAD!

No srsly. With all the rumblings of a PSP redesign, I think Nintendo's happy with the DS Lite, and I would honestly be surprised if they released another redesigm somewhere down the road.

eternal Zero
07-05-2007, 01:57 PM
Also, that dirty stylus witch molestation game is coming out in Japan soon. Doki Doki Majo Shinpan (translation: WHAM! WHAM! Pound that Witch with Your Stylus For Great Justice).
The website is hilarious:

Are You Bad Person? (http://www.dokimajo.com/english/)

...

Very Yes

I don't know what to say about this game, lol.

Drack
07-05-2007, 02:06 PM
I don't know what to say about this game, lol.

Only in Japan would such games be created.

I am so gonna try it.

Bigfoot
07-06-2007, 12:05 AM
Exclamation Warriors in action. This game is ridiculous lol. I would love to see someone playing this on a plane/train/bus.

Evilhead, are you a Club Nintendo member? Japan always gets better shit than we do, lol.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21270.html

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-06-2007, 12:07 AM
I now officially declare that Capcom must produce a Street Fighter game/port for the DS with online play. Preferably SF3 or SFA3.

Evilhead
07-06-2007, 01:09 AM
Exclamation Warriors in action. This game is ridiculous lol. I would love to see someone playing this on a plane/train/bus.

Evilhead, are you a Club Nintendo member? Japan always gets better shit than we do, lol.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21270.html

ME, part of the Nintendo Club? Oh ho ho! Actually no though...
And a game that you control only using your voice? Hmm... sounds like it could get a little old, and there's no way to play it on the train!


These days it seems like I do about 90% of my gaming on the DS. Having an R4 card is the best. There are a lot of DS games worth purchasing, but the card has allowed me to check out games I normally would never think to buy, and enjoy others who have the ability to be entertaining for just a week or so. A few sleeper hits that I've really enjoyed lately is Picross DS and Sega Presents Touch Darts. I know there have been other Picross games for portable systems, but this is the first one I've tried out, and obviously it makes good use of the stylus. For those of you who haven't played it, it's kind of like Sudoku with pixel art. The puzzles start of quite easy but level up in difficulty quite smoothly. It's quite addicting! And Touch Darts is a really fun game. I enjoy darts in real life (just played with some friends last night, in fact), but I'd imagine it would be fun for just about anyone. It's kind of like the darts in clubhouse games except you have much greater control of the darts. But there is definitely room for error and skill to come into play so it replicates real darts quite well. Except in real darts I rather rarely get that treble 20. The game is also quite polished with a nice variety of boards/venues, and the customizable 3D darts look quite nice. Check it out if you see it.

Dhsu
07-06-2007, 01:47 AM
Having an R4 card is the best.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what the best flashcart/passcard combination(s) are if I want both NDS and GBA homebrew? Basically some pros/cons of the R4 vs. M3 vs. G6 vs. EZ4 vs. SuperCard vs. etc would be nice.

Evilhead
07-06-2007, 01:56 AM
Basically if you want to do anything involving GBA games/homebrew, you'll need a slot-2 card. The R4/R3 can't deal with GBA roms at the moment, and probably won't ever be able to. Beyond that I don't know much about the slot-2 cards.

q-pa
07-06-2007, 04:13 AM
Speaking of which, does anyone know what the best flashcart/passcard combination(s) are if I want both NDS and GBA homebrew? Basically some pros/cons of the R4 vs. M3 vs. G6 vs. EZ4 vs. SuperCard vs. etc would be nice.I bought a SuperCard MiniSD (http://eng.supercard.cn/products_sd.htm) back when I only had a GBA, and complimented it with a Supercard DS ONE (http://eng.supercard.cn/products_scdsone.htm) when I got my DS a few months ago.

The SuperCard MiniSD for Slot 2 has its downsides; mainly how all games must be patched first on Windows before moving them to the card and how battery saves must be saved to the MiniSD card manually :whatevaa:. Even then you sometimes have to fiddle with the patching settings; some games like Sonic the Hedgehog are slow regardless and some like Super Monkey Ball Jr. and the NES Classics series won't load at all! One plus about the card though is it has Goomba GameBoy and PocketNES NES emulators built in with drag-and-drop support.

But I have yet to find any problems with the DS ONE. It's drag-and-drop, handles saves automatically and has a good text displayer and media player. The only game that I found not to work with it is the Sonic Rush E3 2005 beta (you have to turn off saves). If you have both Slot 1 and Slot 2 solutions you can load the DS Browser without having to patch it first and of course have GBA union.

I've ran DS homebrew (DSOrganize and Mini vMac DS among others) with no problems, but never really got into GBA homebrew. If you're looking for more information on the different card types
I recommend scene portal sites like www.gbatemp.net/ and www.ds-scene.net/


Finally, The Engrish instruction manuals for both cards is both hillarious and sad.:tomatoface:

Drack
07-06-2007, 04:49 AM
Disclaimer: Piracy is evil!!!!!!

If you want both DS and GBA, only a slot 2 cartridge will work.

I use an M3 Perfect (and I have the lite microSD variant). It's the best out there if you want everything.

Sure, you need to patch DS games, but firmware updates are frequent and comprehensive when needed. I've never had a game not work a week or so after it's released and normally new games work right off the bat. Homebrew works fine, both .nds and .ds.gba. Unlike the Supercard, gba games run at full speed. Saving is seamless - the games save as normal and it gets backed up to the flash every boot. Never had any gba incompatibilities.

It's expensive, but it's the best.

Now, if you'd rather have built-in flash for some reason (highest model has 1 gigabyte I believe .. maybe even 512MB) the G6 is made by the same company and does the same thing.

Some other slot-2 cards are "almost as good" but generally have pretty big flaws. Supercard is the only one that comes close and it has problems with a lot of GBA games.

Slot 1 cards are cheaper and don't need games to be patched but do not do GBA at all.

You will need a Passme to use a slot 2 card, at least until you flash it (which requires the passme to do so you're buying one if you go slot-2). Passcard 3 works. Superkey works. Basically anything with "3" in it works. Avoid the Max media launcher as it has problems with sleep mode. Aside from that they're pretty much all the same. The sole function of the passme is to boot a slot 2 card.

Dhsu
07-06-2007, 06:59 AM
Cool, thanks guys.

The M3 sounds awesome, but I have a few concerns. The first and main concern is whether it will work as a standalone GBA flashcart as well. Basically it'd be nice if I could use it with my SP as well...no particular reason, it'd just be cool if I could.

The secondary and related concern is pretty minor but still worth addressing, namely form factor. I don't feel comfortable being restricted to Lite shells...again, options are a plus. How many versions of the M3 Perfect are there anyway?

The third issue might be more important than the first (unless I'm missing something), specifically the matter of actually buying a microSD card and reader/writer. I can deal with the $10-20 cost of the media, but I'd rather not buy a separate device to read/write. Does the M3 come with one?

The G6 does look like an attractive solution as well, if only because it comes with a GBA shell in addition to the Lite shells. :P Not to mention it has built-in media and comes with a USB adapter. Space doesn't worry me too much...1GB is plenty for me.

And lastly...would it be too much to ask for rumble? ^_^;;

Of course, this might be all moot until I take care of that "getting a job" issue...

Drack
07-06-2007, 01:55 PM
Cool, thanks guys.

The M3 sounds awesome, but I have a few concerns. The first and main concern is whether it will work as a standalone GBA flashcart as well. Basically it'd be nice if I could use it with my SP as well...no particular reason, it'd just be cool if I could.

The secondary and related concern is pretty minor but still worth addressing, namely form factor. I don't feel comfortable being restricted to Lite shells...again, options are a plus. How many versions of the M3 Perfect are there anyway?The microSD variant is a Lite-shell, and can only be used in a DS Lite.
The miniSD variant is the size of a GBA cart, a natural fit for a GBA or DS Fat. The fullsize SD variant is a little larger, sticking out of any device a little bit.

The third issue might be more important than the first (unless I'm missing something), specifically the matter of actually buying a microSD card and reader/writer. I can deal with the $10-20 cost of the media, but I'd rather not buy a separate device to read/write. Does the M3 come with one?
No, it doesn't - I use this (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDDR-103-MobileMate-TransFlash-Package/dp/B000652LUG) (which reads all sizes of SD without an adapter). Also, my laptop and printer both have built-in SD slots. Most digital cameras do as well, and virtually all microSD and miniSD cards come with an adapter to make it fit in a fullsize SD slot.

The G6 does look like an attractive solution as well, if only because it comes with a GBA shell in addition to the Lite shells. :P Not to mention it has built-in media and comes with a USB adapter. Space doesn't worry me too much...1GB is plenty for me. And lastly...would it be too much to ask for rumble? ^_^;;
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: M3 and G6 do not have this feature. There is a Supercard variant that does. However, the Supercard Rumble is basically a slot 2 cart that acts like a slot 1 cart - they took the necessary hardware for GBA out to make room for the motor.
Of course, this might be all moot until I take care of that "getting a job" issue...Hope I helped.

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-06-2007, 04:03 PM
So here's a shoutout to everyone who plays Mario Kart DS online.


STOP DISCONNECTING JUST 'CAUSE YOU LOST ONE RACE!!!

Godammit, this is pissing me off. It's about fun, people.

The Damned
07-06-2007, 04:40 PM
BUT BUT BUT... WINNING IS HOW I HAVE TEH FUNS! IF SUM! ELSE WINS, HOW CAN I HAVE TEH FUN!?!?!?!!11

/gamefaqs

Shining Mirage
07-07-2007, 04:09 AM
DS Powerglove.

Oh lord, I don't even want to hear that word... Take that back, RD.

*shudders* ...:cry:

Bigfoot
07-12-2007, 12:20 AM
Golden Sun DS

awesome

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/11/golden-sun-ds-shown-at-small-nintendo-gathering/

Ray Falling
07-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Golden Sun DS

awesome

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/11/golden-sun-ds-shown-at-small-nintendo-gathering/

Some say thats a fake, but if its true then heck yes! Good thing i didnt sell my DS just yet :)

Imagist
07-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Golden Sun DS

awesome

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/11/golden-sun-ds-shown-at-small-nintendo-gathering/

Holy shit if they're pulling my leg I'll pull theirs RIGHT GODDAMN OFF.

Bigfoot
07-12-2007, 12:26 AM
Some say thats a fake, but if its true then heck yes! Good thing i didnt sell my DS just yet :)

Why would you sell your DS? :O There's plenty of games out for it, well for me anyway :P I don't know what you like.

The Damned
07-12-2007, 12:31 AM
Fuck, someone got to it first.

Anyway... I liked the first one, but I never actually got around to finishing the second. I do know that the story was supposed to end happily ever after, so I don't really see what they plan to do with the plot now.

Bigfoot
07-12-2007, 12:35 AM
Fuck, someone got to it first.

Anyway... I liked the first one, but I never actually got around to finishing the second. I do know that the story was supposed to end happily ever after, so I don't really see what they plan to do with the plot now.

I'm the opposite. I was a late GBA adopter, and got the SP and Golden Sun 2. The first one was no where to be found. :[

Shining Mirage
07-12-2007, 12:41 AM
Hey Bigfoot, at least you didn't have your copy of GS 1 stolen, just days after you beat the game...

Warmech
07-12-2007, 01:13 AM
Well, there was a little wiggle room at the end of Golden Sun 2 where they could make a third game if they reached.

So what's the word on Touch the Dead? I'm all for some zombie action, but not if it sucks.

Kureejii Lea
07-12-2007, 01:42 AM
Golden Sun DS

awesome

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/11/golden-sun-ds-shown-at-small-nintendo-gathering/

Take this with a grain of salt, but I wanna say I've seen the image on the bottom screen a long time ago...

Nintendo_Ace
07-12-2007, 02:37 AM
I'd say actually they had a pretty good amount of room at the end of Lost age. Granted GS 3 would not follow the same plot, it would have to be more of an offshoot, that could potetially tie back into the plot of the first two.

As far as the veracity of this image goes. I'm not too sure. I heard about this from my cousin, the virtual console reviewer (or one of them) for IGN. I'm not entirely sure where he got his info from, but I tend to consider him a very trustworthy source. He also said that apparently its almost ready to be shipped. Hopefully this all turns out to be true, and I coudl have my hands on the long awaited golden sun three some time in the relatively near future.

Darth GourryGN
07-12-2007, 11:43 AM
So what's the word on Touch the Dead? I'm all for some zombie action, but not if it sucks.

It certainly does not suck. But it is not as awesome as it should be. The reloading somehow makes perfect sense but is completely asinine at the same time; you drag a clip across the touch screen which does not work well with the quick action. Aiming is fun as all you have to do is touch the dead, but still challenging as the dead men waddle and move making the headshots difficult. You can upgrade the guns. The game seems long for an on-rails shooter, and tends to drag a bit. But if you absolutely have to touch the dead, you sick freak, you'll ptobably be satisfied with it.

I'm still waiting for DS Air/Jet Impulse (they better not decide to call it DS Air) to be released in the U.S., dammit Nintendo! That crap better have not been delayed till October or some crap. They better have been recording English dialogue or at least not remove the story completely or some crap. Or maybe it's cancelled. Jet Impulse kicks so much ass, I'm gonna go bust some skulls if they screwed it up. I'm gonna kick your ass, Reggie. Wryyyyy--ahem. Sorry for the outburst.

I meant to say awooooooooooooo
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8164/colorsslot1ju5.png (http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors)

Whoa! Where'd that awesome shit come from? My DS? How'd you know GET THE HELL OUT OF MY MIND--I mean Yes, it did. Using a homebrew program called Colors (http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors). It even saves replays of your drawings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD739J3q7Zg). Also, it uses the pressure sensitivity of the DS touch screen. I did not know that the screen is sensitive like that, but touching the screen lightly makes a light stroke,etc. But maybe they're messing with me. The gremlins are in my brain and

Bigfoot
07-12-2007, 09:08 PM
New gameplay video of Contra 4 DS.

Virt is doing really great with the music.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21589.html

Drack
07-12-2007, 10:04 PM
Rockman ZX Advent is out today in Japan.

I will write a review soon as I get my hands on it.

Kanthos
07-12-2007, 10:23 PM
I just discovered this (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/gamespace/index.php?pid=941688) today. Civilization for the DS!

Imagist
07-12-2007, 11:09 PM
I just discovered this (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/gamespace/index.php?pid=941688) today. Civilization for the DS!

After SimCity, I'm not surprised. What really gets me thinking is what they might be planning to do with the Wii version that will push it back to fall while other consoles see it next spring.

Drack
07-13-2007, 02:17 PM
Rockman ZX Advent (ロックマンゼクスアドベント Rokkuman Zekusu Adobento)

Not really any plot spoilers here because I didn't bother deciphering most of the Japanese text. But for those who don't want info, I'm spoilertagging it anyway.
*
A lot is similar to ZX. The intro level is even easier. Instead of starting off with Model X, you start out - and even do the stupidly easy intro boss - in Human form. That's right, you can now shoot in human form, but all you have is a buster that can't charge. Also, a city did not require me to take off my armor, which can be pretty funny, considering the armors I got.

So, a bunch of cutscenes, a bunch of Japanese talk, and some plot I won't spoil later, you start the first real levels, with Model A. It seems to be a pretty weak model. You have got a buster, can dash and walljump and all that, and if you picked the female protagonist, your charge shot is just like the Gemini Laser from Mega Man 3, only it goes much faster (Male protagonist gets a regular charge shot). You encounter Prometheus and Pandora - and they seem to be up to no good. I've got a hunch they will be a bit more important in this game than they were in ZX.

The first boss you get armor from is kind of a wolf. Easy, easy boss fight. Like, the difficulty of a miniboss. They're really going easy on you to start the game off, either that or I mistakenly selected easy mode, ugh. I'll have to translate the menus more carefully and make sure I didn't. More important than the boss is the armor. When I put on the armor, I didn't just have armor on that kind of resembled the boss, I turned into the boss. Yeah, I literally grew to be an 8 foot tall 300 pound wolf guy with a deep masculine voice (I picked the chick protagonist because in ZX Vent sounded like a chick anyway). Most of the moves he did in the fight, I could do. Which is pretty cheap as he could breeze through a lot of places. This is also why I find it pretty funny that I can walk around the city with my armor on. There's a boss walking around your city, and you don't care!

Another level, another boss, this ones a plant guy. Also an easy fight (However, it took no damage from the wolf guy's armor - I had to use Model A or Human (lol))- I hope this game picks up the difficulty pretty quick. It seems that the bosses' attack strategies are a bit less creative than the first ZX. I had no problem dispatching this guy coming in the room with half my health. The armor for him is kind of dumb too. It lets you climb up vines and stuff, but is useless on the ground as you can't move quickly of jump more than like a foot.

Hoping it picks up soon in intensity - so far I'm not liking it as much as the first ZX.
Here are some links:
Wikipedia Entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man_ZX_Advent)
Some screenshots (http://www.dengekionline.com/data/news/2007/4/21/0bb986244e5bd429045dc9f80c9c07c6.html) - I don't know what's going on here because in that shot the player had twice as much weapon bar and some kind of crazy cube attack. I didn't have any of those goodies when I beat this miniboss.

*

Alpine Flame
07-13-2007, 03:00 PM
Hate to take the topic off of Rockman ZX Advent, but has anybody gone out and picked up Hoshigami? It's seems like a fun game so far, kinda like a mix between Final Fantasy Tactics and Disgaea. MMMhm. Finally some good strat-Rpg Goodness on the DS.

Shining Mirage
07-13-2007, 06:33 PM
Hate to take the topic off of Rockman ZX Advent, but has anybody gone out and picked up Hoshigami? It's seems like a fun game so far, kinda like a mix between Final Fantasy Tactics and Disgaea. MMMhm. Finally some good strat-Rpg Goodness on the DS.

Name sounds familiar... What company made that?

CHz
07-13-2007, 06:50 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, but I wanna say I've seen the image on the bottom screen a long time ago...
Yeah, it's totally fake for that reason (before (http://goldensun.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/art/picture.php?cat=5&image_id=251) | after (http://www.joystiq.com/gallery/golden-sun-ds/307650/) | side-by-side (http://www.quiteajolt.com/gff/gs3lolz.png)) and because there's been no official announcement from Nintendo, Camelot, or anyone that this game even exists.

Alpine Flame
07-16-2007, 04:19 PM
Name sounds familiar... What company made that?
The DS Game is made by Aksys, it's a remake from the PSX one of the same name.

Shining Mirage
07-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Didn't that game make it to the U.K.? I remember reading in some magazine that it did...

EDIT: Never mind. I found all the info on Aksys and that game.

UnforgivingEdges
07-17-2007, 02:04 AM
The DS Game is made by Aksys, it's a remake from the PSX one of the same name.

It's published by Aksys, not made by them.

Alpine Flame
07-18-2007, 02:55 PM
It's published by Aksys, not made by them.
Apologies. I tend to use dumbed down verbage at times.

jessethehedgehog
07-18-2007, 05:37 PM
Before, I was more leniant towards the PSP, but after a while, I grew to like the DS more after I got a modchip. The PSP can no longer play homebrew games after being updated past 2.00+, i believe, as for the DS, it always has that function. Some of the homebrews can outdo the PSP, no less. For example, someone converted RPG Maker XP into DS format, and I've seen it played. I think the DS should get more credit that what it's been given.

Power Surge
07-19-2007, 02:45 AM
My apologies if this is already posted and/or no one gives a damn (though I'm sure this will interest many of you anyway).

Remember that Daffy Duck cartoon in which an animator redraws him in different ways to piss him off?

A game based on that cartoon is coming out for DS later this year. (link (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/07/an_e3_gem_for_the_nintendo_ds.html))

Kanthos
07-19-2007, 03:22 PM
Awesome idea! I remember that cartoon and it was great. Hope the game lives up to or surpasses the original.

Neo Samus
07-19-2007, 04:00 PM
That sound's like an awesome idea for a game! I hope the gameplay is just as good!

BardicKnowledge
07-19-2007, 07:31 PM
I don't know if everyone has seen this yet, but a lot of people here are also visual artists via deviant, so click me for happiness. (http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors) It requires a homebrew-capable DS (so go out and buy that R4 already!)

The Pezman
07-19-2007, 10:56 PM
So what's the word on touching the dead?
I don't know, and I never want to.

Broken
07-19-2007, 11:30 PM
I don't know, and I never want to.

It got abysmal reviews from Gamespot and X-play if that means anything to you.

The Damned
07-21-2007, 04:59 AM
But that new one, something Ward, looks a lot better. Early reviews place it pretty high.

Arek the Absolute
07-21-2007, 05:21 AM
The announcement for Tales of Innocence makes me so fucking happy for 2 reasons:
1) It isn't done by Dimps
2) It is going to be on the DS, and any Tales game that Nintendo gets will be promoted like fuck, which means for sure we will get it here in the states.

Sucks that more than likely we won't be getting ToDr or ToR for the psp since those are going to SONY *fucking douchebags*, but at least we will be seeing ToS2 and ToI for sure.

BardicKnowledge
07-21-2007, 10:00 PM
I've got a DS question: What games have I missed that I should really take a look at? Here's a list of what I've played through so far (or am currently playing):

Castlevania (both of them)
Final Fantasy III
Phoenix Wright (both of them...yes!)
Yoshi's Island DS
Kirby (both of them)
Animal Crossing
Sonic Rush
Mario 64
Elite Beat Agents (and the Japanese one)
Trauma Center
Metroid Prime: Hunters
"" Pinball
Electroplankton
Super Monkey Ball
Super Princess Peach
Tetris DS
New Super Mario Bros.
Star Fox Command
Cooking Mama
Clubhouse Games
Hotel Dusk
Custom Robo Arena
FF Chocobo Fables
Pokemon Pearl
Megaman ZX
Dragon Quest Adventures: Rocket Slime

I'm especially on the lookout for good RPG's, even though I know they're few and far between on portable systems. Thanks in advance to anyone answering my question!

Bigfoot
07-21-2007, 10:02 PM
Puzzle Quest is pretty good.

Bahamut
07-21-2007, 10:19 PM
Planet Puzzle League - the ultimate puzzle game to date.

Neo Samus
07-22-2007, 04:38 AM
Planet Puzzle League - the ultimate puzzle game to date.

Word, on so many levels.

Hi my name is Neo, and I'm Puzzle League Addict.

JoeFu
07-22-2007, 10:31 PM
I beat PW:JFA last week, pretty awesome game, and the music wasn't that bad. I can't wait for Trials and Tribulations in september and after that its

APOLLO JUSTICE TIME!

Penfold
07-23-2007, 04:47 PM
The announcement for Tales of Innocence makes me so fucking happy for 2 reasons:
1) It isn't done by Dimps
2) It is going to be on the DS, and any Tales game that Nintendo gets will be promoted like fuck, which means for sure we will get it here in the states.

Sucks that more than likely we won't be getting ToDr or ToR for the psp since those are going to SONY *fucking douchebags*, but at least we will be seeing ToS2 and ToI for sure.

Hell yeah. Btw, what was the deal with that other Tales game for DS? It came out in Japan and was rated less-than-stellar (though I still wanted to try it out), but there was never word of it coming out in the US...anybody know if it's even planned to come here?

Kureejii Lea
07-23-2007, 07:49 PM
Hell yeah. Btw, what was the deal with that other Tales game for DS? It came out in Japan and was rated less-than-stellar (though I still wanted to try it out), but there was never word of it coming out in the US...anybody know if it's even planned to come here?

As far as I know, there are no plans to bring Tales of the Tempest over right now. That shouldn't come as too much of a surprise though; a lot of Tales games have never seen localization.

JoeFu
07-23-2007, 09:43 PM
Tales of Innocence looks good, I hope it's better than Tempest. If it is, bring that one over here.

ANd I really don't want tales of the tempest anyways, many people from japan said the game pretty much sucked and could be beaten in 12 hours or less.

TOI trailer on the website.

http://namco-ch.net/talesofinnocence/index.php

Jam Stunna
07-24-2007, 03:06 AM
Yeah, Tales of Innocence looks cool. But why the hell do all Japanese voice actors sound the same?

The Damned
07-24-2007, 03:32 AM
That would be because there are only six actual voice actors in all of Japan. Two men, four women. They use multiple names to help cover lots of roles, and thus be paid more.

In fact, all of Naruto is done by three people (one guy, two chicks).

Kanthos
07-24-2007, 03:45 PM
Anyone tried out Nervous Brickdown yet? It's a Breakout clone and then some. I've had it since it released here and haven't finished it yet (some of the bosses are quite hard; yes, there are *bosses* in a Breakout clone), but it's a good combination of hard and fun with a really good vibe to it. The new ways they've come up with to make a "bounce the ball into blocks and don't let it get past your paddle" style game innovative are fantastic, like drawing your own paddle and using it to clear ink off a piece of paper, or having to switch the colour of your paddle to match the colour of the ball.

q-pa
07-25-2007, 06:05 AM
Anyone tried out Nervous Brickdown yet? It's a Breakout clone and then some.Yeah, I picked it up not too long ago. Only tried Arcade mode and haven't made it very far in that but it is enjoyable, even if it's only a small step up from Arkanoid (same falling-pill power-up system and everything).

It's a bit annoying to have to follow the ball across both screens (at least it is on my original DS) but the graphics are nice. Kind of reminds me of Tetris DS--minus the retro-Nintendo elements of course.

UnforgivingEdges
07-25-2007, 06:54 AM
Anyone excited for Picross on August 1? For that matter, has anyone in PAL land ever played the others in the series? The game looks super intriguing, but I'm still not sure I get how it works. Like some sort of hybrid between a crossword puzzle and sudoku?

Kanthos
07-25-2007, 03:49 PM
Yeah, I picked it up not too long ago. Only tried Arcade mode and haven't made it very far in that but it is enjoyable, even if it's only a small step up from Arkanoid (same falling-pill power-up system and everything).

It's a bit annoying to have to follow the ball across both screens (at least it is on my original DS) but the graphics are nice. Kind of reminds me of Tetris DS--minus the retro-Nintendo elements of course.

World 1 is the only one that is true classic Arkanoid. Get on to some of the other worlds and you'll see what I mean about the game completely reinventing the genre :)

Reaif
07-25-2007, 06:36 PM
I've got a DS question: What games have I missed that I should really take a look at? Here's a list of what I've played through so far (or am currently playing):

Castlevania (both of them)
Final Fantasy III
Phoenix Wright (both of them...yes!)
Yoshi's Island DS
Kirby (both of them)
Animal Crossing
Sonic Rush
Mario 64
Elite Beat Agents (and the Japanese one)
Trauma Center
Metroid Prime: Hunters
"" Pinball
Electroplankton
Super Monkey Ball
Super Princess Peach
Tetris DS
New Super Mario Bros.
Star Fox Command
Cooking Mama
Clubhouse Games
Hotel Dusk
Custom Robo Arena
FF Chocobo Fables
Pokemon Pearl
Megaman ZX
Dragon Quest Adventures: Rocket Slime

I'm especially on the lookout for good RPG's, even though I know they're few and far between on portable systems. Thanks in advance to anyone answering my question!


Etrian Oddysy is really good. I've been playing it and it's kind of like those really old school first person dungeon games where you can make notes and stuff on the map, but this time you get to draw the map as well. a little hard to start, but quite fun none the less.

Mr.Roboto
07-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Advanced Wars:Dual Strike.

Wipomatic
07-26-2007, 09:47 PM
I've been playing a lot of Elite Beat Agents recently and the original DS stylus is killing my finger. I've been thinking of getting some DS lite styluses. Is there anything stopping me using a DS lite stylus on an original DS? They're not made of different stuff or anything?

Dhsu
07-26-2007, 09:57 PM
It won't fit into the holder, but that's about it.

Wipomatic
07-26-2007, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I know it's too big but I'll just keep it on a string somewhere or something. I'd rather that than fucking my finger up.

Bahamut
07-26-2007, 10:08 PM
It's a sign that you're probably holding it too strongly...you should relax the grip and focus more on moving your arm/wrist.

Wipomatic
07-26-2007, 10:10 PM
I try to, but I get excited on Jumpin' Jack Flash and kinda forget. :oops:

q-pa
07-26-2007, 11:04 PM
I recently bought a DS accessory pack that had a stylus-tip that you strap on to the front of your index finger.

I don't know if it would work well in Elite Beat Agents, but just a thought.

Wipomatic
07-28-2007, 07:27 PM
Well fuck. I bought some DS lite Styluses from Game and after five minutes of playing with them on Elite Beat Agents my screen is fucking scratched.

Dhsu
07-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Ouch, that's no good. Hope you use screen protectors.

BardicKnowledge
07-28-2007, 09:00 PM
If you're holding the stylus so tightly that you hurt your hand while playing, that's probably the reason -- the Castlevania (Lite) stylus worked fine on my old fattie DS. With that said, the Lite is way better, and I'm glad I upgraded.

The Unsung Plumber
07-28-2007, 09:54 PM
O.k. I'm looking to sell my old DS and upgrade, So I'm giving everyone on ocr first dibs on it.

It's a launch DS, Pretty good shape, very few scratches on the screens, the front part of the top half of it is scratched though.

It has this skin made my me on it (http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/lancer130/OCR4Done.jpg).

PM or e-mail me if your interested or for more info.

eternal Zero
07-28-2007, 11:34 PM
I'm very partial to the DS lite screen/stylus setup as opposed to the other possible combinations. I used EBA as my basis for testing them all out, and it just feels right for me. The bigger stylus definitely helps you to not overgrip it too.

Bigfoot
07-29-2007, 01:43 AM
A while back I saw a video of UMK3, and it had no blood. I was afraid that Nintendo was going back to the MK1 days, but I saw a screenshot today that definitely had blood.

I can't wait to play people online :D lol

Darth GourryGN
07-29-2007, 04:33 PM
Simple DS Series Vol. 18 The Soukou Kihei Gun Ground is a nice game. It is a clone of Front Mission: Gun Hazard (side scrolling customizable giant robot action). It's Japanese and will probably never come to the U.S. but side-scrolling giant robot action is a universal language.

Games you bastards should be buying but aren't:
Tank Beat
Time Ace
Freedom Wings
Jet Impulse (import)

As far as DS comfort goes, I find the best combination is DSlite stylus with DSnonanorexic. Also, beefing up the lite with a Hori armor thingy is makes it as thick as an original DS and increases comfort.

"Hey, who asked you?"

Bite me.

Also, always use screen protection. There's no reason not to. Without it, one bad decision could create trouble down the line. Can you really trust all those styluses rubbing your touchscreen? Do you know where they've been? When they touch your touchscreen it's like you're touching it with everything that they've touched before.

Think about it. Stay safe. And don't just let every smooth talker open up your clamshell and stick his stylus wherever.

OutLander
07-30-2007, 12:29 AM
Also, always use screen protection. There's no reason not to. Without it, one bad decision could create trouble down the line. Can you really trust all those styluses rubbing your touchscreen? Do you know where they've been? When they touch your touchscreen it's like you're touching it with everything that they've touched before.

Think about it. Stay safe. And don't just let every smooth talker open up your clamshell and stick his stylus wherever.
8-O
That was so innuendo laden that I don't even know where to begin.

Anyways, I like my DS. It has served me well in the short time I've had it.

Bigfoot
07-30-2007, 01:08 AM
I don't use screen protector's. Don't they all leave a nasty sticky residue, or make the screen not as sensitive? I use my DS Lite for everything except EBA lol, so far no scratches here. Although sometimes it feels like I run over a rock on my DS Lite and I'm like "crap!... where's the scratch?"

Arek the Absolute
07-30-2007, 01:23 AM
How fucking gay. I just picked up Megaman Zero and the cart's fucking battery is dead. No wonder the person traded it in. God damn it Gamecrazy, test your games better, cause this is a very stupid mistake that would have never passed by me if I was still working there.

BLAH

Dhsu
07-30-2007, 01:35 AM
8-O
That was so innuendo laden that I don't even know where to begin.
Ever wondered why the company is called "Hori"? Hm...

Arek the Absolute
07-30-2007, 01:36 AM
How fucking gay. I just picked up Megaman Zero and the cart's fucking battery is dead. No wonder the person traded it in. God damn it Gamecrazy, test your games better, cause this is a very stupid mistake that would have never passed by me if I was still working there.

BLAH

UnforgivingEdges
07-30-2007, 01:38 AM
I don't use screen protector's. Don't they all leave a nasty sticky residue, or make the screen not as sensitive? I use my DS Lite for everything except EBA lol, so far no scratches here. Although sometimes it feels like I run over a rock on my DS Lite and I'm like "crap!... where's the scratch?"


The Hori protectors don't leave a residue and are tough as nails. Use them and love them; they're sold at Fry's and some Wal Marts.

Bigfoot
07-30-2007, 01:59 AM
The Hori protectors don't leave a residue and are tough as nails. Use them and love them; they're sold at Fry's and some Wal Marts.

Hmm, cool. Thanks for the heads up.