Nintendo DS

[Crabsmasher]

Hey Pokefans, more info today. Check www.serebii.net or http://pokemonelite2000.com/ for deatils. A new poke, and the full in-game map are revealed. And there are a few new videos showing actual battles, so you can see how the touch screen is used.What was that whole touch screen thing about? Are you going to be able to play dress up with your Pokemon? :?

[Klowd]

Well, Connection Tour tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to make a decent attempt in the Mario Kart competition, considering I haven't played for a while.
You should play me beforehand.

Eh, I got owned anyway. Made it to the semis where everyone was Yoshi in the Egg Kart, and came last. Hey, at least I won a New SMB coffee flask and belt for knowing how many Mario Kart games there are- 6!
That's cool. Too bad they don't do the Connection Tour in the US. I'm one of those Egg Cart people.

[The Damned]

What was that whole touch screen thing about? Are you going to be able to play dress up with your Pokemon? :?
It's for item management, issuing attack commands during a battle, and what appears to some form of decoration or item use on your pokemon. There isn't any info on that last part. I would expect there to be some more info later this month.

[Crabsmasher]

What was that whole touch screen thing about? Are you going to be able to play dress up with your Pokemon? :?
It's for item management, issuing attack commands during a battle, and what appears to some form of decoration or item use on your pokemon. There isn't any info on that last part. I would expect there to be some more info later this month.Thats really what I was talking about, I knew about the other stuff. I should have been more specific. I just wanted to know if there was any info... but there isn't any.

[watkinzez]

Well, Connection Tour tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to make a decent attempt in the Mario Kart competition, considering I haven't played for a while.
You should play me beforehand.

Eh, I got owned anyway. Made it to the semis where everyone was Yoshi in the Egg Kart, and came last. Hey, at least I won a New SMB coffee flask and belt for knowing how many Mario Kart games there are- 6!

O_o Wait, what? Super, 64, Double Dash, Super Circuit, and DS... what am I missing?

Yo missing this. (http://mario20th.nintendo.com.au/)

[FiremanJoe]

Ok, enough of this Pokemon banter. :POpera for DS (http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/) comes out in Japan in 8 days.

[Bigfoot]

Ok, enough of this Pokemon banter. :POpera for DS (http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/) comes out in Japan in 8 days.

It'd be cool if there were just different language settings for it.

[Razumen]

Ok, enough of this Pokemon banter. :POpera for DS (http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/) comes out in Japan in 8 days.

It'd be cool if there were just different language settings for it.

I used to be kind of excited for that, but when I found out there was going to be no Flash, sound or video support well, I'm not sure I really care anymore.

[Smoke]

Ok, enough of this Pokemon banter. :POpera for DS (http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/) comes out in Japan in 8 days.

It'd be cool if there were just different language settings for it.

I used to be kind of excited for that, but when I found out there was going to be no Flash, sound or video support well, I'm not sure I really care anymore.

I can see a use for it, the only disadvantage is that WiFi networks aren't as far spread as cellphone networks. It'd be a nice replacement for my cellphone browser(Which also doesn't do flash, video or sound) and it'd make looking up stuff while fixing someone's computer a hell of a lot easier.

It's not a PC browser replacement.

[watkinzez]

New Zealand Story remake for the DS. (http://www.ds-x2.com/index.php?id=5467)

Fecking awesome.

[Avatar of Justice]

I just want Opera for DS so I can login to my school's wifi network, (requires a web browser) then pop in Mario Kart and play. My DS should stay authenticated for awhile.

[Razumen]

It's not a PC browser replacement.

No, but that doesn't mean it has to suck.

[!Nekko!]

It's not a PC browser replacement.

No, but that doesn't mean it has to suck.

I think he just meant that its not as capable as PC Browsers, which is a given. But as a portable device with a web browser, it still has potential.

Anyway, have they announced a price for it yet in the U.S.? I probably won't be willing to pay more than $20 for it since I have a laptop already. I'd probably use it for things like looking up friend's codes or faqs. If given the chance, I'd probably find other hilarious things to use the browser for.

[G_D]

Flippin' sweet sig

That's awesome.

[Smoke]

It's not a PC browser replacement.

No, but that doesn't mean it has to suck.

Compared to cellphone browsers, it's much better. And that's what they're pretty much going for.

Hell, even Opera Mini (http://mini.opera.com) is far superior to the default browser on my phone.

[Bigfoot]

I always wondered if there was a wallpaper sized image of the mushrooms in Nekko's sig.

[supremespleen]

I always wondered if there was a wallpaper sized image of the mushrooms in Nekko's sig.I think there is. Check around DeviantArt.

[PinkPikachu]

I would die from an almost school-girlish giddy-laughter if Square-Enix released a sequel/Alt Story/ Same Engine Game of Chrono Trigger. I mean, with the Touch screen, you could like manipulate Time/Space, or direct attacks, or move peoples arround. I mean, its almost like, DEATH COOLNESS!

[Bigfoot]

I would die from an almost school-girlish giddy-laughter if Square-Enix released a sequel/Alt Story/ Same Engine Game of Chrono Trigger. I mean, with the Touch screen, you could like manipulate Time/Space, or direct attacks, or move peoples arround. I mean, its almost like, DEATH COOLNESS!

I'd be happy with just a port to the GBA.

[The Damned]

I'd be happy with just a port to the DS, with that there SNES button setup.
Fixed. How else can I properly save Lucca's mother from a horrible, crippled life by pressing her name out using the buttons?

Oh, and spoilers.

[Bigfoot]

I'd be happy with just a port to the DS, with that there SNES button setup.
Fixed. How else can I properly save Lucca's mother from a horrible, crippled life by pressing her name out using the buttons?

Oh, and spoilers.

Shutup, it's been like, 6+ years since I've played :[

[Evilhead]

New Zealand Story remake for the DS. (http://www.ds-x2.com/index.php?id=5467)

Fecking awesome.

OOOOO!!

[linkspast]

It be cool if they had a ds cart, that would run touch screen buttons on the bottom screen for gba games.

[The Damned]

Not happening. GBA games were never designed for touch screen use, and trying to make some sort of unifying system for converting/adding on such support would be goddamn impossible. You would have to make such a system customized for each and every single game. And I hardly think that anyone would be willing or even capable of doing the programming and manufacturing.

Nice fantasy.

[linkspast]

Yeha thats what i kinda figured. but you would not be able to say. "this area on the touch screen is the same as the X button" and so on. Or would that not work?

[The Damned]

Considering GBAs don't have an "x" button, that would be a little difficult.

[linkspast]

ok ya got me, i havent picked one up in a bit. yeha guess it would never work.

[Smoke]

Yeha thats what i kinda figured. but you would not be able to say. "this area on the touch screen is the same as the X button" and so on. Or would that not work?

Considering the buttons for GBA games are already there on the console itself, you're looking at some nice redundancy.

Maybe you could sell it to DS owners with defective buttons but a functional touchscreen though :P.

[JoeFu]

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/castlevaniaportraitofruin/news.html?sid=6154504

When asked about Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin's wireless features, Iga explained that the game will offer a two-player cooperative mode that can be played either locally or online. Cooperative games will be played on special stages which, although the translation wasn't entirely clear, we're assuming refers to levels different to those found in the single-player game, and the monsters contained therein will vary according to whether the game is online or local because of technical limitations. Also supported locally and online will be a shop mode, where you can buy, sell, and trade items with other players.





HELLS YEAH~

[G_D]

Well, I didn't really want to clog the DS thread with my own personal crap that is only mildly related to any topics discussed therein, but I guess that mods like clogged threads. That being said:

I've decided to do a 2-part mod to my DS. I have already taken it apart and put it back together, so I know what I'm getting into (pretty much).

The first part will be easy: I'm painting it. I think I'm going to go with a dark green, and put a Triforce on the cover (doesn't that just spell nerd?). I'll be using automotive trim paint, so I shouldn't have any problems with adherence or the like.

The second part is going to be more difficult. I'm going to try to extend the wireless range somehow. I have noticed that the wireless on the DS is not very good, especially when you're stealing it, Oops, probably shouldn't have said that... so I want to try to improve on this.

The reason for this post is to ask for a little help with the project. First, should the Triforce be a pale yellow (that was all I could find), or should it be gold? My main fear is that gold will look tacky. I'll also take other color/theme suggestions. Also, does anyone here know enough about wireless internet to help figure out how to extend the range? Basically, the wireless antenna in the DS is two leads on a circuit board in the top. Does it improve reception to have the leads further apart? Does it improve reception if the leads have a larger surface area? These are the things I don't know. I've also considered adding a custom connector on the back so that I can attach an after-market wireless antenna.

Does any of this sound at all rational, or should I just scrap the idea? I'm also willing to take others' ideas, so if there's something you always wanted to see done to a DS I'll consider it (nothing destructive, though).

[Power Surge]

Bump.

If this is old, I apologize.

Nintendo DS headset revealed (http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6657)

It's about fucking time. Although, only MPH and, in the future, Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam are games that I know of that have/will have VoIP support which will put this accessory to good use. For other games that use the mic, it'll mean less spittle on the screens. At $9 US (or more if you plan to import one), it's not a very risky investment. I have a splitter, so if it has just the one earphone shown in the image instead of two, I'll likely get one.

[supremespleen]

Pretty lame, I had just started getting into WiFi play again, and now my adapter is all screwed up.

Edit: Great Deku, I would use enamel paint, probably. Best check to make sure that that won't hurt the DS, but most enamels are glossy. A flat green DS might look odd.

[Crabsmasher]

Bump.

If this is old, I apologize.

Nintendo DS headset revealed (http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6657)

It's about fucking time. Although, only MPH and, in the future, Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam are games that I know of that have/will have VoIP support which will put this accessory to good use. For other games that use the mic, it'll mean less spittle on the screens. At $9 US (or more if you plan to import one), it's not a very risky investment. I have a splitter, so if it has just the one earphone shown in the image instead of two, I'll likely get one.Pokemon Diamond/Pearl will also have chat features.

[CE]

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/castlevaniaportraitofruin/news.html?sid=6154504

When asked about Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin's wireless features, Iga explained that the game will offer a two-player cooperative mode that can be played either locally or online. Cooperative games will be played on special stages which, although the translation wasn't entirely clear, we're assuming refers to levels different to those found in the single-player game, and the monsters contained therein will vary according to whether the game is online or local because of technical limitations. Also supported locally and online will be a shop mode, where you can buy, sell, and trade items with other players.





HELLS YEAH~

That was kinda old... I think it was said right after E3... Still good stuff though, I'm looking forward to it.

[Trace']

I have something to add to this. I went to comic con and saw that Nintendo had a booth. I saw the voice of Mario and the whole bit and they had a bunch of games including Starfox DS and Mario 3 on 3 hoops.

Needless to say, both were amazing. Starfox, you do pretty much everything with the stylus, except the barrel roll :D

Mario 3 on 3 was good too. the controls were easy and it will be a lot morefun playing with people that are real, not computers.

Thats about all I have to add, and I am looking forward to the new pokemon.

[Toadofsky]

If anyone hasn't said it, there's this new Capcom RPG coming out called Contact. Looks very interesting, kind of reminds me of Earthbound for some reason...

Can't wait for Star Fox, but they better let me have different control methods, I don't think I can do without my barrel roll.

[G_D]

:Sigh:

I hate waiting for games that aren't even announced yet. When am I going to finally get my F-Zero love on the DS? Or Fire Emblem?

Not that I have money to buy games as it is. :(

Yeah, Contact looked somewhat interesting, but not enough for me to buy it. I'm still waiting for this (http://www.studioarchcraft.com/project.htm)RPG. I think it was plugged in this thread before, but worth mentioning again.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I have something to add to this. I went to comic con and saw that Nintendo had a booth. I saw the voice of Mario and the whole bit and they had a bunch of games including Starfox DS and Mario 3 on 3 hoops.

Needless to say, both were amazing. Starfox, you do pretty much everything with the stylus, except the barrel roll :D

Mario 3 on 3 was good too. the controls were easy and it will be a lot morefun playing with people that are real, not computers.

You have to be a serious knob to think the controls were remotely good on either of these games.

If anyone hasn't said it, there's this new Capcom RPG coming out called Contact. Looks very interesting, kind of reminds me of Earthbound for some reason...

IT'S NOT CAPCOM, RUBE. The game is being developed by Grasshopper, the same people who did Killer 7, and published in the States by Atlus.

[Trace']

[quote=Trace.]I have something to add to this. I went to comic con and saw that Nintendo had a booth. I saw the voice of Mario and the whole bit and they had a bunch of games including Starfox DS and Mario 3 on 3 hoops.

Needless to say, both were amazing. Starfox, you do pretty much everything with the stylus, except the barrel roll :D

Mario 3 on 3 was good too. the controls were easy and it will be a lot morefun playing with people that are real, not computers.

You have to be a serious knob to think the controls were remotely good on either of these games.

Sure starfox was tricky, but it was easy after a little bit. As for mario, move with the d-pad and dribble/shoot with the stylus. Not that difficult or bad.

[!Nekko!]

Anyone know what the state of the DSpeak (http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/20/nintendo-e3-dspeak-voip-via-nintendo-ds/2) is? It sounded kind of cool, but there appears to be nothing new besides the announcement of a DS headset (http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/31/shot-surfaces-of-nintendo-ds-headset/).

[CE]

Phthisis works at atlus? They made Traume Center! :nicework:

[Bigfoot]

Phthisis works at atlus? They made Traume Center! :nicework:

He tests games or something.

[JoeFu]

http://www.nintendo.com/tinglesurvey/


HELP BRING TINGLE'S RPG HERE!

[Dhsu]

I'm taking that one twice.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Phthisis works at atlus? They made Traume Center! :nicework:

He tests games.

Fixed. I test games. There's no "or something" about it. It's awesome.

[atmuh]

Phthisis works at atlus? They made Traume Center! :nicework:

He tests games.

Fixed. I test games. There's no "or something" about it. It's awesome.

That's a sick job.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Phthisis works at atlus? They made Traume Center! :nicework:

He tests games.

Fixed. I test games. There's no "or something" about it. It's awesome.

That's a sick job.

It is. The downside is that I'm not getting as much exercise as I would like, and I can't talk to anybody about what goes on in the office, and I really really want to.

[Bigfoot]

Phthisis works at atlus? They made Traume Center! :nicework:

He tests games.

Fixed. I test games. There's no "or something" about it. It's awesome.

My bad. Didn't mean to offend.

[JoeFu]

COME ON GUYS!

http://www.nintendo.com/tinglesurvey/

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

[UnforgivingEdges]

COME ON GUYS!

http://www.nintendo.com/tinglesurvey/

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

It's fruity is what it is. Tingle? In his own game? That is so incredibly fruity...

[JoeFu]

BUT IT'S A QUIRKY JAPANESE GAME. We need more of those here. I don't care how fruity tingle is, as long as the game is fun and intersting.

[atmuh]

BUT IT'S A QUIRKY JAPANESE GAME. We need more of those here. I don't care how fruity tingle is, as long as the game is fun and intersting.

I agree. I said that they should make the game but not include Tingle in Twilight Princess in any way. By the way Phthisis I'd never be able to keep my mouth shut if I had your job. Your resiliance is admirable.

[Aninymouse]

Yeah, Contact looked somewhat interesting, but not enough for me to buy it. I'm still waiting for this (http://www.studioarchcraft.com/project.htm)RPG. I think it was plugged in this thread before, but worth mentioning again.

Worth mentioning again INDEED. Here I was, just complaining about how gaming news had been so slow and how there were almost no decent RPGs on the DS when BAM!

Hopefully Project:Exile gets off the ground. I want this thing.


Advance Wars DS is still probably the best RPG for the DS, I think, and it came out a looong time ago. Hopefully FFIII will be worth the wait. For a guy who mostly plays RPGs, the DS has been building it's momentum a bit too slowly.

EDIT: Oh yeah, how could I forget? My life more or less revolves around Pokemon Diamond & Pearl. Good to know there's a few fans in the OCR community. I figured you guys would be burning Pokemon fans at the stake by now.

...then again, I think it's some kind of requirement that you have to love Nintendo games of some kind to register on the forums, right? :)

[Dhsu]

I don't think Advance Wars can be considered an RPG, since there is no character or stat improvement.

[Bobwillis]

Eh, you gain ranks and stuff.

[Aninymouse]

I don't think Advance Wars can be considered an RPG, since there is no character or stat improvement.

Turn-based strategy game?

Off the top of my head, though, the only "mildly tradition" RPGs that were worth anything were AW:DS and Castlevania DS. There've been some recent tries, like Lost Magic, but they're kinda on the meh side. Also, you have to consider that most genres these days seem influenced by SNES RPGs... sports games incorperate upgradable stats, action games incorperate similarly grandious stories, etc.

My point was, I guess, that right now all the potentially great DS RPGs aren't out yet. Nevermind what constitutes an RPG...

[JoeFu]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.

[CE]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.

Contact's out already?

[JoeFu]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.

Yeah, I forgot to mention Contact. I haven't really seen like what the gameplay will be like, but it looks really interesting. That's a game I'm looking forward to too.

The box is awesome.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1344/contacttitlesheet08012006ij7.jpg
EDITED FOR HUGENESS

And Deep Labyrinth looks interesting, but I'm not sure if that's a game I will be getting, but I might get it anyways if I don't have any games to play.


Contact comes out next month right?

[UnforgivingEdges]

Contact comes out next month right?

Yeah, September 12th

[chfuji]

I didn't quite feel like reading over +35 pages of posts so I apologize if I'm being redundant. The new Pokemon games (not the poop that is dungeon rescue whatever) look awesome. Ad-hoc and online play are set to make Pokemon Diamond/Pearl shine like jewels. The localization of Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan (Retitled: Elite Beat Agents) will be interesting to see considering they've retooled it so much that they may as well call it a sequel. If you're into the J-Rock/Pop the import is good for that. I hope whatever licensed music (if at all) that they have in the English version doesn't suck. According to the informative folks at 1up.com the next Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney game will not prominently feature Phoenix Wright. The series will have a new main character taking on the role of ace attorney. If you didn't pick up the first game, good luck doing so now. If you do find it, consider yourself lucky, so make sure to play the heck out of it. So much great stuff to spend money on coming out within the year, so little, little money in my wallet.

[linkspast]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.

Yeah, I forgot to mention Contact. I haven't really seen like what the gameplay will be like, but it looks really interesting. That's a game I'm looking forward to too.

The box is awesome.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1344/contacttitlesheet08012006ij7.jpg
EDITED FOR HUGENESS

And Deep Labyrinth looks interesting, but I'm not sure if that's a game I will be getting, but I might get it anyways if I don't have any games to play.


Contact comes out next month right?

wow that was a massive ds case... sounds intrestring. Looks like the kinda game id get on an impulse buy and be happy about.

[Dhsu]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.
Maybe instead of being an Atlus whore, you should let people buy what they want.

[KWarp]

I've bought more DS games now than in my entire N64's lifecycle. This thing's amazing I tell you. Didn't the DS also hit 21 mil worldwide recently? 10 mil in Japan, 5 mil in US, 5 mil in Europe, 1 mil other methinks.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.
Maybe instead of being an Atlus whore, you should let people buy what they want.

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm broadening horizons.

[Bigfoot]

I've bought more DS games now than in my entire N64's lifecycle. This thing's amazing I tell you. Didn't the DS also hit 21 mil worldwide recently? 10 mil in Japan, 5 mil in US, 5 mil in Europe, 1 mil other methinks.

Indeed. My DS collecion is nearing my GC collection count. Did the DS ever suck on launch, phew.. what a come back.

[Jaswald]

I think a River City Ransom DS game would be really good. You could utilize the Wi-Fi technology for street gangs and stuff like that.

Just a thought, feel free to discuss.

[bouncerboy15]

I've bought more DS games now than in my entire N64's lifecycle. This thing's amazing I tell you. Didn't the DS also hit 21 mil worldwide recently? 10 mil in Japan, 5 mil in US, 5 mil in Europe, 1 mil other methinks.

Indeed. My DS collecion is nearing my GC collection count. Did the DS ever suck on launch, phew.. what a come back.
The launch sure sucked. That's what kept me out of the DS range until a year later....

[Dexie]

I didn't quite feel like reading over +35 pages of posts so I apologize if I'm being redundant. The new Pokemon games (not the poop that is dungeon rescue whatever) look awesome. Ad-hoc and online play are set to make Pokemon Diamond/Pearl shine like jewels. The localization of Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan (Retitled: Elite Beat Agents) will be interesting to see considering they've retooled it so much that they may as well call it a sequel. If you're into the J-Rock/Pop the import is good for that. I hope whatever licensed music (if at all) that they have in the English version doesn't suck. According to the informative folks at 1up.com the next Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney game will not prominently feature Phoenix Wright. The series will have a new main character taking on the role of ace attorney. If you didn't pick up the first game, good luck doing so now. If you do find it, consider yourself lucky, so make sure to play the heck out of it. So much great stuff to spend money on coming out within the year, so little, little money in my wallet.

Elite Beat Agents IS a sequel. It features new characters and liscensed songs. Livin' La Vida Loca and Walkie Talkie Man have already been confirmed. XD

And yeah, GS4 has a new main character, but GS 2, releasing in the states of Phoenix Wright: Justice For All, still stars the title hero. Plus, the first game got rereleased, so it shouldn't be that hard to find.

[Dhsu]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.
Maybe instead of being an Atlus whore, you should let people buy what they want.

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm broadening horizons.
I dunno, calling someone a "whore" seems pretty forceful to me.

Might be just me, though. :/

[Penfold]

I can't wait for FFIII, CoM, and I heard good things about Magical Vacation 2 or whatever it's being called here.

AND WHERE IS OUR FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE DS??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

I really don't want to wait for the Wii for the next Fire Emblem.

Maybe instead of being a Square-Enix and Nintendo whore you should check out other quality offerings like Contact and Deep Labyrinth.
Maybe instead of being an Atlus whore, you should let people buy what they want.

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm broadening horizons.
I dunno, calling someone a "whore" seems pretty forceful to me.

Might be just me, though. :/

I'd also say that Phthisis is a little biased, given that he works for Atlus :P. Reguardless, the more of Contact I see the more I want it (when is it released stateside?). Of course, I still desperately want a Fire Emblem to be released to the DS and am really looking forward to FFIII (I'm sure as hell not as Square-Enix whore, and I'm only attracted to Nintendo games that are fun...and that tends to be, well, most of them these days :P). Yay for the DS, yay for choices, yay for games!

[CE]

Pheonix Wright and Trauma Center arrived today, after an exceptionally short waiting period. Pheonix seems like a blast, I haven't played Trauma Center yet, but my brother is right now, he says it's good and I trust his judgment. Those guys over there seem to have done a nice job Phthisis. BTW, what is it that you do exactly?

[Bigfoot]

Phoenix Wright is indeed awesome. I think I'm going to pick up TC tonight.



He tests games btw.



Only game testing chance I have here in Florida is with EA sports, and it's an hour drive for $8 an hour. So screw that.

[CE]

EA sports huh? I'd go there to test the soccer games, but not much. You might have a chance to test Madden Wii...no?

BTW, I'm on the second case, with that annoying April girl... She's lying, I know. She's gonna burn. I do like seeing her eye twitch when she's in trouble though. And I'm noticing some...unfair "jiggliness"... cheater.

[CE]

Sorry for the double post, but here's some interesting article on the DS, and Nintendo's overall strategy and success with it.

MSN Money (of msn.com), in an article from the financial website thestreet.com, explain why nintendo has "hit the next level" with the Nintendo DS, financially-wise.

The article (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/TheStreet/NintendoHitsTheNextLevel.aspx)

[The Damned]

Hmmm... Contact, Pokemon D/P, Zelda... this is going to be a very expensive season for games.

Oh, and that whole Wii thing, that too.

[The Damned]

What the fuck? Page two? Not on my watch...

Yeah, so Pokemon stuff has been revealed through CoroCoro magazine, and it's something.

First, what appears to be the new starters have been revealed, and one of them is a monkey with a flaming ass. Seriously. Look for yourselves here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Japanese_Scan_2006-08-05_02.jpg).

And then we have the online stuff. It's not just battling (although that's been expanded as well). Contests's have returned and been expanded a bit, and there's this whole underground world (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/More_September_2006_CoroCoro_scans_leaked_to_Inter net) you can play online in. Secret Bases from RSE make up this giant cave system where you can play games like Capture the Flag with other people, and set traps for each other. You can also take part in treasure-hunting, and maybe even more. Looks to be the most feature-filled generation of the series.

Oh, and there's this one pokemon, looks like a parrot, that you can use the DS's microphone to record your own sounds/words, and have it scream it as an attack. Think of how many people will have one that screams "FUCK!" at you in a battle.

Oh, and a Chocobo game (http://ds.ign.com/articles/723/723115p1.html) for the DS. I would like more details, but it's all good.

[Crabsmasher]

Pokemon Online is ending up alot more extensive than I ever expected. This is awesome! NWFC is slowly getting better and better. So with this whole underground thing does that mean that they are getting rid of friend codes for this game?

[G_D]

Looks like DS is my console of choice this winter. As much as I'd like to get a Wii, I am being forced to limit my spending significantly. Wii will have to wait. Besides, with so many incredible DS games coming up, I probably won't even notice the Wii's absence.

[Bigfoot]

You know what just hit me last night...


I think it'd be cool to see a Spy vs Spy on the DS.

[eternal Zero]

That monkey with the flaming ass reminds me of Cyndaquil with the back...cept...like Charmander without the decency. Although, that water starter looks really too cute to be taken seriously.

[KWarp]

Those Pokemon designs are a little too "neo" for me. I'll wait for more details.

[The Damned]

You know what just hit me last night...


I think it'd be cool to see a Spy vs Spy on the DS.
Oh yeah... I don't see why not. Two screens, you're on the bottom one, and can use the touch screen for various tasks, maybe even taps or something, I don't know... and your opponent is on the top.

It's been a long time since I'e even seen that game.

[Bigfoot]

You know what just hit me last night...


I think it'd be cool to see a Spy vs Spy on the DS.
Oh yeah... I don't see why not. Two screens, you're on the bottom one, and can use the touch screen for various tasks, maybe even taps or something, I don't know... and your opponent is on the top.

It's been a long time since I'e even seen that game.

My cousin had Spy vs Spy on the original Game Boy. Good times.. haha.

[JoeFu]

Screen of Jump Ultimate Stars.

I'm thinking I'm gonna import this one. I didn't get the first one, but I really want to get this one.

http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6683

[KWarp]

I've played it. Really fun. :)

[Penfold]

Sorry for the double post, but here's some interesting article on the DS, and Nintendo's overall strategy and success with it.

MSN Money (of msn.com), in an article from the financial website thestreet.com, explain why nintendo has "hit the next level" with the Nintendo DS, financially-wise.

The article (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/TheStreet/NintendoHitsTheNextLevel.aspx)

Just read the article, pretty interesting...especially when they noted that LocoRoco didn't sell (and saying it was like a Nintendo-style game). Seems like many of the avid Sony supporters I see (in the US at least) are graphics whores and don't often care how fun a game is if it's not really pretty (and do often call Nintendo games "dumb" and "childish," and go off about how Nintendo games have "bad graphics"), so it seems like trying to market a game like that on the PSP is trying to market it to the wrong audience. Then again, Katamari Damashi are Sony platform-exclusive and those seemed to sell well, despite not having stunning graphics. Meh, I dunno, just my take on it.

[KWarp]

I'm really interested in Loco Roco. :(

[Unstable Hamster]

I played the loco roco demo, I say meh. What intrest me in the psp right now is the power stone collection.

But I'm really in the wrong thread to talk about this :wink:

I can NOT wait for the new starfox for the ds coming out at the end of the month. That will get me back online playing games.

[JoeFu]

I put the demo on my friends PSP. I really love the music. The music is just so happy and cheery in the game, but the gameplay is kinda frustrating. If it was something like Kirby Tilt N' Tumble, it would be way more enjoyable.

[Mouser X]

I posted this earlier (like, a day ago at least), but it seems that the post was lost, or deleted... Anyway, I found this (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/4922) video of Star Fox for the DS (it asked me if you're over 18, though I have no idea why. The video is completely clean in all regards. After trying the link though, it seems to work fine, so maybe it's just me). This is showing in-game play using the wi-fi ability. About 1/2 through, you can see the guy do a barrel roll. It certainly looks player controlled to me. Hopefully this is a possible indication that some of the issues people have mentioned earlier have been addressed, and possibly taken care of.

Either way, the game looks pretty good, graphically speaking. At least, for a DS game. I'm certainly looking forward to it, but I think I'd like to try out a demo, if one is available. Especially since I have extreamly limited funds. Anyway, hopefully someone finds this video informative. Mouser X over and out.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I posted this earlier (like, a day ago at least), but it seems that the post was lost, or deleted... Anyway, I found this (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/4922) video of Star Fox for the DS (it asked me if you're over 18, though I have no idea why. The video is completely clean in all regards. After trying the link though, it seems to work fine, so maybe it's just me). This is showing in-game play using the wi-fi ability. About 1/2 through, you can see the guy do a barrel roll. It certainly looks player controlled to me. Hopefully this is a possible indication that some of the issues people have mentioned earlier have been addressed, and possibly taken care of.

Yeah, it seems they changed it so now doing a barrel roll is a scribbling motion left or right on the touch screen.

Which really complicates the controls all the more. The game is going to be a complete mess.

[Atypic]

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, but Children of Mana is a excellent game for the DS. I picked it up at Tsutaya's recently (couple of weeks ago) and I just finished it. Been a bit busy. At any rate, I don't know if this is of much use, but i took some pics of the game since I have no idea how to dump screens from the DS.

Ingame, fighting one of the first bosses. Pretty standard use of the dual screens, but convenient and practical.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/474/1bw6.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1bw6.jpg)

Ingame, dialogue mode - characters have different expressions depending on the situation and context, looks nice I think.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2265/2fd8.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2fd8.jpg)

Last one, this is from the opening video wich is animated, about 10fps or something. It really brings a quality feel to the game. I was thinking about making a gv/tube of it if anyone is interested (it probably exists already anyway..?)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7014/3ce8.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3ce8.jpg)

[Mouser X]

Once again, in regards to Star Fox on the DS, I just found this (http://ds.ign.com/articles/723/723646p1.html) IGN article. They spent some time on the Japanese version, and said that it handled surprisingly well. Of course, I wouldn't expect you people to blindly accept what IGN said about the game. However, if what they said is accurate, then I think it will certainly be a worthwhile game. Though, I'm definatly going to have to try it for myself first. Hopefully they have it on demo, or something, at the local store here, when it comes out.

Anyway, since I hadn't seen it linked earlier, I thought it would at least be reasonably useful to post a link to the article here. Mouser X out.

[MrGittins]

I've have a flash cart for my DS so I can run homebrew and roms on it. I've been playing the japanese version of starfox a little bit this week. I managed to complete the training missions even though I cant read any of the text. It's pretty good so far, the actual dog fighting is way too easy though, and there doesn't seem to be any levels where you fly in a linear path like in the SNES and N64 games, which is a shame.
The mario 3 on 3 basketball game absolutely rocks though, I cant recommend that enough.

[Power Surge]

Both the video and the IGN article pretty much confirm for me that Star Fox Command is really gonna suck. Each new game seems to stray farther away from what made Star Fox 64 so awesome. In that regard, Star Fox is Nintendo's Sonic the Hedgehog.

As with any game, I should reserve my judgement until I try it for myself, but so far the game looks very not fun.

[Pallad]

Screen of Jump Ultimate Stars.

I'm thinking I'm gonna import this one. I didn't get the first one, but I really want to get this one.

http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6683

Is there actually any information on the character list in JUS? From the screenshots, all I saw were updated health bars and whatnot.

[CE]

Both the video and the IGN article pretty much confirm for me that Star Fox Command is really gonna suck. Each new game seems to stray farther away from what made Star Fox 64 so awesome. In that regard, Star Fox is Nintendo's Sonic the Hedgehog.

As with any game, I should reserve my judgement until I try it for myself, but so far the game looks very not fun.

Gamespot said the same thing. They were giving it the "suckage" vibe until the end of the article and then tried to redeem it by saying it might've been the language barrier.

Guess good ol' Phthisis was right on this one.

[Dhsu]

Here's how I invision the Starfox DS game should work:

At the beginning of each mission, you're given a map of the level and use your stylus to draw a path through it. There will be branches, but you're not allowed to backtrack, so you must choose wisely. Although maybe there could be a power-up that lets you change your path mid-level.

Then you enter the mission, flying along the "rail" you've drawn. The controls are the same as the original Starfox, except with the extra tricks added in Starfox64. The stylus won't come into play at all, except maybe with bosses, because they always need some sort of gimmick.

And that's it. Sweet and simple. Don't fix what ain't broke, Nintendo.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Guess good ol' Phthisis was right on this one.

I would wait until the game is released before you make that conclusion, but I appreciate the sentiment :P

[The Damned]

But it was released. In Japan.

[JoeFu]

Okay, so I just heard about a game called Luminous Arc for the DS. It's supposed to be an SRPG and it looks interesting because I really want and SRPG for the DS. Also heard who was making the music was and...

Music and sound production by Yasunori Mitsuda


scans from famitsu.
http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88406_lumarc1_591lo.jpg

http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88413_lumarc2_528lo.jpg

I hope this game comes out here, but judging by the lack of info in English, I guess we won't be seeing it.

[Ero Elohim]

Okay, so I just heard about a game called Luminous Arc for the DS. It's supposed to be an SRPG and it looks interesting because I really want and SRPG for the DS. Also heard who was making the music was and...

Music and sound production by Yasunori Mitsuda


scans from famitsu.
http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88406_lumarc1_591lo.jpg

http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88413_lumarc2_528lo.jpg

I hope this game comes out here, but judging by the lack of info in English, I guess we won't be seeing it.

That looks fantastic. Battle system reminds me of FF Tactics, but the story sequences seem more Disgaea-inspired. I could use a good, involved DS RPG. Here's hoping it comes Stateside.

[The Damned]

I R 1337 |-|/\[|<3R! (http://www.gamebrink.com/nintendo-ds/1603-Project_Hacker_Kakusei-reviews.html)

I wonder how the US will take a game where you break into people's computers and hack the megabytes? Sounds like something parents and law officials could get behind and use as an example of how video games teach your children bad things.

[Bigfoot]

I R 1337 |-|/\[|<3R! (http://www.gamebrink.com/nintendo-ds/1603-Project_Hacker_Kakusei-reviews.html)

I wonder how the US will take a game where you break into people's computers and hack the megabytes? Sounds like something parents and law officials could get behind and use as an example of how video games teach your children bad things.


But then there's games that let you be a Surgeon or a Defense Attorney.

So they have other choices as a career path. :p j/k


I doubt anyone would care except Jack Thompson. Well, he probably won't care either because you're not a thug killing people and bangin' hoes.

[Warmech]

bangin' hoes.

[JoeFu]

While it's not that much info, some info from GAF on Luminous Arc.

http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6699

The more I see the two scans, the more I want this game.

[UnforgivingEdges]

While on the subject of GAF, notice the new Famitsu scores (http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6694).

Mario Hoops got a somewhat disappointing 30/40. Might I go 2 for 2 on my E3 impressions (in that I said both Starfox and Mario Hoops weren't that good)?

Time shall most certainly tell.

[Crabsmasher]

I haven't really been looking forward to that Mario Hoops game so if it sucks I don't really care.

Will this game have weird RPG elements like Mario Power Tennis?

[JoeFu]

What is Rune Factory?

I've seen the screen shots and stuff, and know it's made by the Harvest Moon people... Is it like an RPG Harvest Moon or something??

ANyways, I just hope Atlus or someone bring Luminous Arc over here. Anyway you can give them input or something UE?

[Crabsmasher]

Rune Factory: Bokujou Monogatari is a DS game from the Harvest Moon creators, which features RPG elements, such as the ability to tame and raise monsters, and use them as party members.

Sounds to me like a game similar to Pokemon.

[UnforgivingEdges]

What is Rune Factory?

I've seen the screen shots and stuff, and know it's made by the Harvest Moon people... Is it like an RPG Harvest Moon or something??

It's the "New Harvest Moon" series. It's American name is New Havest Moon: Rune Factory and it involves fighting monsters and more traditional RPG elements mixed in to the old HM formula.

ANyways, I just hope Atlus or someone bring Luminous Arc over here. Anyway you can give them input or something UE?

Everyone at the office has been checking out Luminous Arc. Whether or not Atlus decides to do it, I am willing ot bet it gets brought stateside by someone.

Also, you can make your requests heard if you head over to the Atlus.com message boards. They have a qhole forum for game suggestions that fans would like to see localized. That's partially how Steambot Chronicles got brought over.

[CE]

The current market has a kindling for RPGs. Given the lack of an AAA RPG on the DS, I'm guessing Nintendo is going to push Pokemon as hard as they can, and then find another RPG to complement it, for the people who dislike pokemon (like myself). This could be Luminous Arc. Or the other one...contact?

[Fenzark]

So the new Harvest Moon game with feature fighting? That sounds really so odd. I've been a fan of the series since the Gameboy days, and I can't say I seem to like the direction they're taking. :? I guess we can only pray it'll be good.

[Stargem]

That sounds rather...bad, considering the core concept of Harvest Moon. It is like an good idea was snatched up by some foul executive who tainted it with utterly lame things from common games. Hopefully it isn't as bad an idea as it feels to me.

[Fenzark]

Harvest Moon has always been one of the best games, ever in my opinion, because it approaches gaming in a casual, careful and non-violent way, and manages to pull it off with one of the oddest game recipes ever (manage a farm? Atleast at first it was sort of weird). Putting in fighting elements will basically crush the heart of the game, in my opinion.

[Crabsmasher]

I am not sure that this new Rune Factory game is mean to replace the farming games that so many people like. I think it's more of a spin-off that will branch into it's own series. But I could be wrong.

[Baleshadow]

Luminous Arc looks fantastic. So much so that I actually registered on the Atlus forums and posted in the requests thread.

I'm so happy I got my Lite back from Nintendo Customer Service. Now I can buy Trauma Center.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I am not sure that this new Rune Factory game is mean to replace the farming games that so many people like. I think it's more of a spin-off that will branch into it's own series. But I could be wrong.

Yeah, that's how Marvelous Interactive is approaching it. They're going to keep the old Harvest Moon, too, but this is sport of a spin-off series.

[Fenzark]

Ahh, well that sort of explains it I guess. And then I'm perfectly fine with it. Have there any words on a Harvest Moon DS title then?

[Crabsmasher]

Ahh, well that sort of explains it I guess. And then I'm perfectly fine with it. Have there any words on a Harvest Moon DS title then?Yup. IGN just a few videos (http://media.ds.ign.com/media/695/695643/vids_1.html) a couple days ago too.

IGN also had something pretty cool to say about Lumnious Arc:

Marvelous Interactive and Image Epoch are teaming up for an original DS strategy RPG. The latest issue of Famitsu has a blowout on Luminous Arc, which features characters by Shibano Kaito and sound production by Yasunori Mitsuda (Chrono Cross, Xenosaga).

[JoeFu]

Omfg crab, lern 2 reed.

I said that a while back dude!!

I serioiusly can't wait for Luminous Arc, someone just has to bring it over here.

On another note, I finally have Phoenix Wright. I just beat the oh so sad Second Trial. The characters in the game make me so freaking angry sometimes.

[Bigfoot]

Omfg crab, lern 2 reed.

I said that a while back dude!!

I serioiusly can't wait for Luminous Arc, someone just has to bring it over here.

On another note, I finally have Phoenix Wright. I just beat the oh so sad Second Trial. The characters in the game make me so freaking angry sometimes.

The game gets WAY better, trust me. ;)

[Baleshadow]

Omfg crab, lern 2 reed.

I said that a while back dude!!

I serioiusly can't wait for Luminous Arc, someone just has to bring it over here.

On another note, I finally have Phoenix Wright. I just beat the oh so sad Second Trial. The characters in the game make me so freaking angry sometimes.

The game gets WAY better, trust me. ;)

Seriously. Each case tops the one before it.

[CE]

Omfg crab, lern 2 reed.

I said that a while back dude!!

I serioiusly can't wait for Luminous Arc, someone just has to bring it over here.

On another note, I finally have Phoenix Wright. I just beat the oh so sad Second Trial. The characters in the game make me so freaking angry sometimes.

The game gets WAY better, trust me. ;)

Seriously. Each case tops the one before it.

It's awesome. A great return to text based videogames, with a hint of nostalgia, and a ton of laughs. If books were videogames, I'd put this up as a bestseller.

[JoeFu]

Just got done wiith the little kid in Trial 3. I love the leetspeak guy. That was pretty awesome.

[Crabsmasher]

Omfg crab, lern 2 reed.

I said that a while back dude!!

I serioiusly can't wait for Luminous Arc, someone just has to bring it over here.

On another note, I finally have Phoenix Wright. I just beat the oh so sad Second Trial. The characters in the game make me so freaking angry sometimes.D:

[Aniatad]

When Pokemon D/P comes out, there isn't gonna be any random search to find an opponent :( But there will be fc sharing :)

[The Damned]

It's in German or something (damn my weakness with other languages), but if you want to see all the released videos from Pokemon DP, here you go (http://www.pokewiki.de/Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_und_Pearl/Videos). They show some footage from the new underground area, which is fucking huge, by the way, and some Capture The Flag action.

About the giant underground place... looking at the top screen of the video, I see that there are solid thick lines that seem to completely enclose areas, and it looks like there's no way to get out of one and into another. In fact, there seems to be a small zig-zag shaped area in the center. I can only speculate that they have each area closed off to prevent people from getting lost or to prevent flooding of one area by lots of players. But until it's out in about a month and a half, who knows?

[Aniatad]

Actually It's in Japanese. :o I really like the battle music.

[Silent Mike]

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7050/yoshidh7.jpg

Hmmm. Wi-fi?

[CE]

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7050/yoshidh7.jpg

Hmmm. Wi-fi?

BABY WARIO?! WIN!

[LiquidGlass]

Well that's great... Because one crying baby wasn't enough. Now I get to hear 4 at once with WiFi... Isn't technology great?

[Dhsu]

It looks like they told the artist "We want to see as much butt as possible."

[UnforgivingEdges]

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7050/yoshidh7.jpg

Hmmm. Wi-fi?

The game is going to fucking rock. The E3 demo was so much fun.

[The Damned]

Actually It's in Japanese. :o I really like the battle music.The site, not the videos. Duh.

[Bigfoot]

It looks like they told the artist "We want to see as much butt as possible."


That's what they tell people who make commercials with babies in them.


"Hey, show off their asses." I hate seeing that shit, lol.

[vega12]

Man, I can't wait for Yoshi's Island 2 to come out. The first one is my favorite platformer so far, and the announcement of its sequel at E3 was what prompted me to decide upon getting a Nintendo DS finally :D.

EDIT: Does anyone know when the Japanese release date is?

[CE]

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7050/yoshidh7.jpg

Hmmm. Wi-fi?

The game is going to fucking rock. The E3 demo was so much fun.

Right, I forgot you were there. Tell me, how does the gameplay fare when compared to the original? I'm guessing its pretty much the same right?

[UnforgivingEdges]

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7050/yoshidh7.jpg

Hmmm. Wi-fi?

The game is going to fucking rock. The E3 demo was so much fun.

Right, I forgot you were there. Tell me, how does the gameplay fare when compared to the original? I'm guessing its pretty much the same right?

It's almost identical, except they've now added the ability to switch babies on the fly, and they all have different powers. So Baby Peach, for example, can use her parasol to make Yoshi jump farther

[CE]

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7050/yoshidh7.jpg

Hmmm. Wi-fi?

The game is going to fucking rock. The E3 demo was so much fun.

Right, I forgot you were there. Tell me, how does the gameplay fare when compared to the original? I'm guessing its pretty much the same right?

It's almost identical, except they've now added the ability to switch babies on the fly, and they all have different powers. So Baby Peach, for example, can use her parasol to make Yoshi jump farther

That's great. As long as they don't make it butt easy like NSMB, I'm totally sold.

[KWarp]

Yoshi's Island 2 is my most anticipated DS game this holiday season. :)

Still.. wifi connection? I'm curious.

[Fenzark]

Looks great!! Yoshi's Island was definatily one of my favourite platformers on the SNES. Ahh, the good ol' days .. :D

I really want a Megaman game for the DS. ZS, plz?

[CE]

Looks great!! Yoshi's Island was definatily one of my favourite platformers on the SNES. Ahh, the good ol' days .. :D

I really want a Megaman game for the DS. ZS, plz?

Accoring to the moonpeople, ZS will most likely be awesomeness.

[Fenzark]

Yes! And there shall be much rejoicing.

Anime-like cutscenes .. great graphics .. classical Megaman gameplay .. yes .. yes .. ;_;

[AzureZeal]

Wasn't there a Bomberman DS out on the way or is it already out? cAN'T seem to find it on the GameStop list

[The Mutericator]

Looks great!! Yoshi's Island was definatily one of my favourite platformers on the SNES. Ahh, the good ol' days .. :D

I really want a Megaman game for the DS. ZS, plz?

Accoring to the moonpeople, ZS will most likely be awesomeness.

ZX, not ZS, lol. And there's a Battle Network style game in development, too.

[Dexie]

Wasn't there a Bomberman DS out on the way or is it already out? cAN'T seem to find it on the GameStop list

There's one out, with a wifi version on the way.

[JoeFu]

I'm on the final trial on Phoenix Wright. I slept at 5 in the morning because of that game. WTF. I can't wait for the next one.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Wasn't there a Bomberman DS out on the way or is it already out? cAN'T seem to find it on the GameStop list

Atlus just announced Bomberman Land Touch!. It's not a traditional Bomberman game, per se, but it has classic Bomberman multiplayer over Nintendo WFC so you can play online.

[Bigfoot]

I'm on the final trial on Phoenix Wright. I slept at 5 in the morning because of that game. WTF. I can't wait for the next one.


I beat the final trial around 5am. Wasn't even paying attention to the time. I was like "haha, oh shit".


It was worth it though. Didn't want to put it off another day.

[The Damned]

Yeah, I've noticed that a lot of the DS games I have are like that. I haven't spent this much time playing into the morning since I got my first Gameboy. That blocky light thing that you could slip onto the top? Yeah, that thing. I must have used up more batteries playing at night than anyone other point in my life.

[Bigfoot]

Yeah, I've noticed that a lot of the DS games I have are like that. I haven't spent this much time playing into the morning since I got my first Gameboy. That blocky light thing that you could slip onto the top? Yeah, that thing. I must have used up more batteries playing at night than anyone other point in my life.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3892/lightboyte1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Good times.

[JoeFu]

Scans of Rune Factory...

Game looks really interesting.


http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86792_Rune_Factory_ND09a_rr_372lo.jp g

http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86799_Rune_Factory_ND09b_rr_510lo.jp g

http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86806_Rune_Factory_ND09c_rr_591lo.jp g

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[Warmech]

Hey I had a Light Boy. Bet it's still around here somewhere, but it probably doesn't work anymore.

So why is Canvas Course still $34.99? Wasn't that a launch title? I'd like to pick it up along with Meteos, but not for that much. I also can't find Meteos anymore. :(

[The Damned]

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3892/lightboyte1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Good times.
Close, but more third party. And then with the Color, it was one of these:
http://www.gameoverplus.com/GBACCwormlight.jpg.
God damn day and night cycle in Pokemon Silver ruined my sleep pattern for about a year.

[KWarp]

So why is Canvas Course still $34.99? Wasn't that a launch title? I'd like to pick it up along with Meteos, but not for that much.
Nope, Canvas Curse came out in June of 05, and you know how Nintendo doesn't mark down their games for a looong time. :wink:

[The Damned]

So why is Canvas Course still $34.99? Wasn't that a launch title? I'd like to pick it up along with Meteos, but not for that much.
Nope, Canvas Curse came out in June of 05, and you know how Nintendo doesn't mark down their games for a looong time. :wink:
I've seen Pokemon Red (not the GBA remake, the original) in several stores, and they still have their original release price. I thought it was just some stores forgetting to mark them down because of their age. But then I also saw other games from the same time (roughly, maybe a couple of years or so either way) that had lowered prices. And these are pristine, unopened boxes in major chain stores, not some used ones in an EB. The price tage were recent, maybe a year or so old. I have even once asked the people behind the counter why such a high price for such an old game. They said that something along the lines of "we haven't been told to mark it down."

Now, did he mean Nintendo jasn't told them, or their sections's supervisor hastn't told them?

Incidently, if anyone wants pristine, unopened Gameboy games for $40 CAN, let me know, I can hook you up. :lol:

[The Damned]

Sometimes I question the point of the internet, and then something like this comes along and I remember why I find it so useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNX6jm8V6Tg

Thank you, YouTube.com. A three minute long trailer for Diamond/Pearl, with new areas never seen before, new effects, shots of evolution, trading, and other stuff.

Points of interest:
-A ship going under a drawbridge at 0:35
-Walking under some sort of railway or tracks at 0:36
-The new "Fly" animation at 0:39
-A grass effect when entering a battle at 0:45
-Pokedex features at 1:11
-The new evolution animation at 1:41
-Some footage of the new Contest stuff at 1:51 (including some sort of costume change for the player at 1:52... this is strange. When you enter a Contest, you change outfits? That's new. I wonder if it's just for show, or actually does something)
-The new trading animation at 2:14
-Verification of online voice chat at 2:26
-Footage of some giant mansion at 2:46
-And of course, a Japanese release date and price at 2:55 (September 28th, at 4800 yen
Looks like that graphical upgrade fans have been asking for the last five or so years has finally come through. And the new areas, wherever they are, look very interesting. I haven't felt excited over a new game in quite a few years.

Note: if you hear a sound, like a messaging program bleeping, that's from the video. ISomeone recorded this on their computer. It turns out that the original video was only available for viewing in Japan, as the server it was on rejected addresses from outside the country.

[Antipode]

Wow, this looks great!

This may be the first pokemon game I get since Red/Blue. Trading and battling online would be a great guilty pleasure.

[Baleshadow]

Nice find. This looks like it is going to be excellent.

[Merk]

Slightly off-topic, but whatever happened to the PDA for the DS? Was that something that a lot of people hoped for but never happened? Something just in Japan, or what?

I also can't find Meteos anymore. :(

According to EBGameStop's coming soon, there is a DS game called Meteos coming in March. Not Meteos 2 or anything, just Meteos.

EDIT: Upon examining their site, it appears to be Meteos: Disney Edition (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=180172)

[The Damned]

EDIT: Upon examining their site, it appears to be Meteos: Disney Edition (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=180172)
I... I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[Merk]

EDIT: Upon examining their site, it appears to be Meteos: Disney Edition (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=180172)
I... I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I hurd theirs going to bee a disney final fantasy gaem? itz gonna be called Kingdom Hearts, zomg teh stupid!!

[The Damned]

Hey, it's my right to vomit at Disney-themed games that don't actually add anything to gameplay. Kingdom hearts, at least, was an original story (as original as RPGs get these days) with varied settings. I suspect that Meteos: Disney Edition will simply throw a bunch of Disney faces and logos on everything, leaving it almost exactly the same as the original version.

Hence, puke.

[Merk]

Fine, though they COULD add something to the gameplay, but much like the disney sports games, probably won't.

So what about my other comment about that PDA software for the DS? Any news?

[The Damned]

I've never even heard of such a program. But it would make sense.

[Penfold]

Has there been no real news/screenshots/vids of Tales of the Tempest yet?

[G_D]

Now if only I could get this equation to work:

Time^5 + Money^10 = I PLAY GAMES!!!!

Sorry, that's dumb. It gets the point across though. Can't wait for Christmas!

[JoeFu]

So I just beat Phoenix Wright. I really can't wait for the next one now. Gosh, that game was too good. I really can't wait for Justice for All, I have to remember to preorder that so I don't have to wait for a year to get the game.

[Bigfoot]

That Pokemon video was orgasmic.

[UnforgivingEdges]

That Pokemon video was orgasmic.

Never again will you use the words Pokemon and orgasmic in the same sentence. It breeds bad visual imagery.

[The Damned]

That Pokemon video was orgasmic.
Like I said, the first time is several years that I've been excited over a new game. Even the awe from Twilight Princess wore off pretty quickly. Diamond/Pearl? It's only been getting stronger.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Alright, so I'm looking to someone who's played that new DS puzzle game Konductra (http://ds.ign.com/objects/785/785824.html). Is it any good? It seems like a more complex version of Polarium, and I'm curious if it's any good.

I love portable puzzle titles, and now that I've mastered both Tetris and Meteos, I need another fix. Gunpey (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/gunpey/index.html) is coming out later this year (the PSP version will probably be better), but in the meantime, how is Konductra?

[KWarp]

Sweet a new, good Pokemon game. Anyone know when the US will get it?

[Crabsmasher]

Holy! That Pokemon video was awesome! So awesome it's time to speculate!

I noticed there was a section with snow and I wonder if that weather will have an effect on the battles in that area. For example accuracy could automatically be lowered because of the heavy weather. Certain attacks like fly could also be harder to use and/or less effective. That could get pretty crazy. Although I doubt it, that snow could mean that every area could be randomly effected by weather depending on it's climate. It would be an interesting feature, but I doubt something like that is being put into place. Perhaps they will have a season system similar to Animal Crossing. When it's fall in your area it's fall in the game. That could be interesting too. Most likely though it will just be that area that's snowy and none of this will ever happen. :P

The video demonstrated the voice chat. I wonder how they are going to solve language barriers. Maybe they will disable voice chat when playing with someone in another region.

Alright, so I'm looking to someone who's played that new DS puzzle game Konductra (http://ds.ign.com/objects/785/785824.html). Is it any good? It seems like a more complex version of Polarium, and I'm curious if it's any good.

I love portable puzzle titles, and now that I've mastered both Tetris and Meteos, I need another fix. Gunpey (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/gunpey/index.html) is coming out later this year (the PSP version will probably be better), but in the meantime, how is Konductra?I haven't personally played it, but a friend told me it plays alot like internet games like Zuma and Luxor.

Has there been no real news/screenshots/vids of Tales of the Tempest yet?
GAF has a scan (http://www.gamesarefun.com/games/ps2/talesofdestiny/34.jpg) from Famitsu.

I didn't like Tales of Symphonia so I don't think I will be getting Tales of the Tempest. Still it's nice to see the DS get some RPG support.

[KWarp]

Take a look at this new DS game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tyhARthnw) :lmassoff:

[Crabsmasher]

Take a look at this new DS game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tyhARthnw) :lmassoff:If they would have released that 10 or 12 years ago it might have been popular. Actually... no.

Edit: Fixed.

[Bigfoot]

Take a look at this new DS game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tyhARthnw) :lmassoff:

Holy shit, Biker Mice From Mars? haha

[UnforgivingEdges]

Alright, so I'm looking to someone who's played that new DS puzzle game Konductra (http://ds.ign.com/objects/785/785824.html). Is it any good? It seems like a more complex version of Polarium, and I'm curious if it's any good.

I love portable puzzle titles, and now that I've mastered both Tetris and Meteos, I need another fix. Gunpey (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/gunpey/index.html) is coming out later this year (the PSP version will probably be better), but in the meantime, how is Konductra?I haven't personally played it, but a friend told me it plays alot like internet games like Zuma and Luxor.

I think you're thinking of Magnetica. Konductra just came out today.

[The Damned]

I noticed there was a section with snow and I wonder if that weather will have an effect on the battles in that area. For example accuracy could automatically be lowered because of the heavy weather. Certain attacks like fly could also be harder to use and/or less effective. That could get pretty crazy.
Rain and Sunlight in RSE had effects in battle. Rain would weaken all Fire attacks and cause Solar Beam to charge for three turns instead of hte normal two, while boosting all Water attacks to cause more damage.

Sunny weather would do the opposite, and make Solar Beam a one-turn powerup and use attack, meaning you could deal out fuckloads of damage over and over.

Both effects were introduced in the second generation, Gold and Silver, but it may be that in Diamond/Pearl, they will also add Sandstorm and Hail effects too. They normally just cause a small amount of damage to most types at the end of each round for five turns. Maybe they could add similar effects this time.
Although I doubt it, that snow could mean that every area could be randomly effected by weather depending on it's climate. It would be an interesting feature, but I doubt something like that is being put into place. Perhaps they will have a season system similar to Animal Crossing. When it's fall in your area it's fall in the game. That could be interesting too. Most likely though it will just be that area that's snowy and none of this will ever happen. :P
I do recall reading on the game directors blog thingy that he had been toying with the idea of making a more realilistic weather system, with changing patterns and locations. But nothing was mentioned on the subject since, and that was months ago. Who knows? They haven't revealed everything yet, and it would be an interesting feature to have.
The video demonstrated the voice chat. I wonder how they are going to solve language barriers. Maybe they will disable voice chat when playing with someone in another region.
I's sort of possible. There's a feature in the game that uses a globe to show you where your trading partner is located in the real world (each peron is going to be represented by a little flashing dot showing their approximate position, and the game keeps track of everyone you trade with, so you can see where all of your trades have come from), so the system can tell where you are from. But I suspect that there's an option to just turn chat off.

We'll see in about six weeks when it comes out in Japan.

/pokenerd

[JoeFu]

omfg stop pokenerding it up and hype up phoenix wright even more.


Anyways, I can't wait until Pokemon comes out either.

Also, I finally watched some videos of Contact. I will now pre-order the game when I have money.

[JoeFu]

omfg double post!!


Anyways, I was wondering if anybody is going to get Deep Labyrinth. The game looks intersting and all, but I just don't know anything about it. It seems its mediocre, IGN gave the game a 6.5, I was just asking to see if anybody is going to get it, and if they do post a review or something.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/725/725603p1.html

Well, after reading a little more about it, I might get the game. It just seems like an interesting thing, and it comes with two different stories.

[UnforgivingEdges]

omfg double post!!


Anyways, I was wondering if anybody is going to get Deep Labyrinth. The game looks intersting and all, but I just don't know anything about it. It seems its mediocre, IGN gave the game a 6.5, I was just asking to see if anybody is going to get it, and if they do post a review or something.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/725/725603p1.html

Well, after reading a little more about it, I might get the game. It just seems like an interesting thing, and it comes with two different stories.

I bought it today, actually. haven't played it yet, but most of the people at work really loved it.

I think the reason it's getting such low scores is that it's so non-traditional that playing it is a bit awkward at first.

It's a rental at least, but come on. Support Atlus! Support first-person RPGs!

[G_D]

Wait, so what is the game that you've been complaining is really bad? In my mind it was Deep Labyrinth. Apparently my mind is wrong?

[UnforgivingEdges]

Wait, so what is the game that you've been complaining is really bad? In my mind it was Deep Labyrinth. Apparently my mind is wrong?

Magna Carta

[JoeFu]

So have you had teh chance to try the game out yet? I still haven't bought the game, and I might not get it after all. Contact comes out in less than a month, so I think I'll just wait for that.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Deep Labyrinth is awesome. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The reviews truly don't do the game justice. Sure it has its flaws, and you can tell it's a port of a cell phone game, but in the same way PSO had its flaws, Deep Labyrinth is addicting as hell (just like PSO).

The touch screen functionality is great, and I really love drawing spell characters in order to cast. It's pretty awesome. Sure there are some things that aren't so great (like the ease of the first chapter), btu overall, I would recommend it. I like it a lot. Great dungeon romp.

Oh yeah and the music by Mr. Mitsuda is fantastic.[/url]

[JoeFu]

Music would be one reason I would get the game. Also just read more about Contact, it seems kinda weird. So like we don't control the fighting in that game at all?

I found that very strange. Maybe I'll get this instead of Contact.



OMFG TINGLE RPG COMMERCIAL~!!!

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/achj/movie/index.html

I had no idea what was going on, but still the game looks really good.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Contact is like an MMO. You can see the enemies in the field, and once you initiate battle, Terry attacks automatically until you tell him to stop or the enemy is defeated.

[G_D]

Sure it has its flaws, and you can tell it's a port of a cell phone game, but in the same way PSO had its flaws, Deep Labyrinth is addicting as hell (just like PSO).

OK FINE YOU WIN.

You mentioned PSO in the same sentence as Deep Labyrinth. Twice. Now I have NO EXCUSE to not buy Deep Labyrinth. Stupid games and me having to pay my hard-earned money for them.

[Baleshadow]

Trauma Center is pretty great. I've been playing it all day.

[JoeFu]

Omfg, datz old news sun...



lawl. Anyways, I am really considering getting deep labyrinth now. I'm going to go to Gamestop this weekend and get it, if i have money.

[The Damned]

Toys R Us is giving away Mew (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Toys_%22R%22_Us_to_distribute_Mew) on Saturaday, Sempterber 30th. If you live in the US, and have a GBA with Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire Red or Leaf Green, you can show up and they will download a Mew onto your game. This is just like a similar event they did back in 1998 for RBY (from which I still have my legit Mew on Silver). Then when the DS games come out, you can transfer it over.

Hopefully, other countries (hackhackcoughCanadacough) will have the same sort of event in the future. Of course, with the DSs online abilities, we could jsut download such things from our homes, negating the whole hassle of finding a store that is participating.

See, I managed to put something vaguely DS-releated in there.

[CE]

I'll skip Deep Labyrinth. The reviews have been a turn off, besides it looks a lot like the Elder Scrolls series and for that I have... the elder scrolls series :?

By the way, Starfox command is almost out people. Who's gonna get it? I won't, UE's told me not to. But I will ignore him if reviews sing it high praise. I confess, reviews mean a lot to me, especially Gamespot's and Gamespy's as a confirmation. I've found that my opinion has been more or less the same as the GS reviewer's ones. No harm to you UE or anything about the SFC thing haha.

[JoeFu]

I think I'll be skipping out on Star Fox too. It just looks like Star Fox 2, the one that never came out. It even looks as easy as it. I beat the beta version of Star Fox 2 in like 20 minutes or something. The only reason I might get SFC is for the multiplayer mode.

[Klowd]

By the way, Starfox command is almost out people. Who's gonna get it?
Unless it gets terrible ratings, I'm buying it on launch day.

[JoeFu]

Well CV:POR looks pretty awesome. I can't wait for that game. Too bad they awesome character designs were killed off for the anime designs :( Oh well. Game looks great though.

[DJLionheart]

Phantom Hourglass is gonna be the bomb.com, but why did they push the release date further away? Wasn't it supposed to come out this year?

Final Fantasy III looks pretty awesome too. You guys should check out its cover-story in October's edition of Nintendo Power. Sweet.
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Now, this isn't exactly a game, but do you guys think it would be cool if Nintendo released a set of Office Tools for DS (Web Browser, Word Processor, Email, etc)? I think it would be useful. Then again, why not just buy a pocket PC?

[The Damned]

Is the October issue out yet? If so, could you please go to page 97, and tell me if there is an article about the Toys R Us Mew giveaway thing. I want some extra confirmation.

Thank you.

[DJLionheart]

Yeah, I've got it right here. It's on September 30th. Take either Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, or LeafGreen to get Mew. Will it work with a DS? Or do you have to have an actual GBA or SP?

I'm excited for Pokemon Pearl and Diamond though. The cards stink, and the show is stupid, but the games rock.

[The Damned]

Confirmation accepted. Awesome. Now to just somehow make it to a US city with a Toys R Us... Should only be about a six hour drive. EDIT: make that a twelve hour drive. The nearest store I could find is in Veradale, Washington. And that assumes that they are even participating in the event in the first place... I guess that I am screwed, and will only ever have one by finding someone to trade with on DP, use a cheat device (not my style) or risk mailing my cart to someone in the US who will do it for me...

No, the DS won't work. I suspect that they will do it one of two ways;

1. Either by hooking up your GBA to a Gamecube, like a demo station, or one specificly setup to handle this event, and just download one onto your cartridge.

2. They will have GBAs with special carts in them that download Mew onto your carts.

Either way, you will needa GBA. The DS has no cable port to connect with either a GBA or Gamecube, and the DSs wireless is completely incompatible with the very limited Gamecube wireless (namely, the Wavebird controller, which wouldn't be used for something like this anyways). GBA only, I'm afraid.

I'm excited for Pokemon Pearl and Diamond though. The cards stink, and the show is stupid, but the games rock.Same.

[atmuh]

By the way, Starfox command is almost out people. Who's gonna get it?
Unless it gets terrible ratings, I'm buying it on launch day.
Same here.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I'll skip Deep Labyrinth. The reviews have been a turn off, besides it looks a lot like the Elder Scrolls series and for that I have... the elder scrolls series :?

By the way, Starfox command is almost out people. Who's gonna get it? I won't, UE's told me not to. But I will ignore him if reviews sing it high praise. I confess, reviews mean a lot to me, especially Gamespot's and Gamespy's as a confirmation. I've found that my opinion has been more or less the same as the GS reviewer's ones. No harm to you UE or anything about the SFC thing haha.

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?

[atmuh]

I'll skip Deep Labyrinth. The reviews have been a turn off, besides it looks a lot like the Elder Scrolls series and for that I have... the elder scrolls series :?

By the way, Starfox command is almost out people. Who's gonna get it? I won't, UE's told me not to. But I will ignore him if reviews sing it high praise. I confess, reviews mean a lot to me, especially Gamespot's and Gamespy's as a confirmation. I've found that my opinion has been more or less the same as the GS reviewer's ones. No harm to you UE or anything about the SFC thing haha.

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?
Nobody here bought it so I have no one to borrow it from. My boss won't let me open a new copy to try it so I guess I'm sticking with Starfox.

[JoeFu]

Has Contact been delayed or something? The Atlus (http://www.atlus.com/) site has a banner that says coming out in October 2006, but the Contact page has it coming out next month...

[UnforgivingEdges]

Has Contact been delayed or something? The Atlus (http://www.atlus.com/) site has a banner that says coming out in October 2006, but the Contact page has it coming out next month...

Hmm, that's interesting. I think I know why, if it's true, but I'm afraid I'm not allowed to say.

Although it does help my wallet if it's delayed.

[JoeFu]

Well, it's not like its a bad thing... But all the games I wanted for September are being pushed back... FFIII is now coming out in November. It looks like I'm going to have to get Deep Labyrinth or something.


Hahahah, forgot Disgaea 2 coming out in like 5 days... That'll keep me busy for a while.

[The Mutericator]

FFIII sold out in Japan, natch.

[CE]

I'll skip Deep Labyrinth. The reviews have been a turn off, besides it looks a lot like the Elder Scrolls series and for that I have... the elder scrolls series :?

By the way, Starfox command is almost out people. Who's gonna get it? I won't, UE's told me not to. But I will ignore him if reviews sing it high praise. I confess, reviews mean a lot to me, especially Gamespot's and Gamespy's as a confirmation. I've found that my opinion has been more or less the same as the GS reviewer's ones. No harm to you UE or anything about the SFC thing haha.

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?

I don't know anyone with Deep Labyrinth yet (portugal remembe?) and renting games is nonexistant here. That's why I trust reviews so much. I gotta, because 8/10 times, the only way I'll get to play the game is buying it. I've noticed that 90% of the times, my opinions match the reviewer's. There are cases where it doesn't of course, but it's usually spot on. And I rarely go for any game below an 8/10. Besides, DL isn't out here yet, and I reserve the importing for major titles, like Megaman ZX. Which I will undoubtedly import. As I said, the resons for me not to get DL are that it's like The Elder Scrolls, only inferior yet portable. And I don't wanna spend 40 euros on the difference sorry :?

[Dragonmaster_Alex]

I was actually RELIEVED when Deep Labyrinth got bad reviews. There are so many awesome games coming out for the Wii and the DS that i fear not being able to play all of the great ones.

[Penfold]

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?

I like how 2 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/starfoxds) counts as inflated for Starfox Command :P

Btw, I'm guessing that you're a contract employee no? Most testers are, so...

[UnforgivingEdges]

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?

I like how 2 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/starfoxds) counts as inflated for Starfox Command :P

Btw, I'm guessing that you're a contract employee no? Most testers are, so...

I don't work for them anymore, so no, no longer a contract employee. And guess what? I'm still enjoying Deep Labyrinth!

Starfox Command is absolute crap. I've played it. For enough time to know that it sucks. But have fun with it. Most gamers are masochists (just look at the popularity of Final Fantasy 7).

[Dhsu]

That must explain why you enjoy playing Dragon Quest VIII.

[UnforgivingEdges]

That must explain why you enjoy playing Dragon Quest VIII.

It's the best RPG I've ever played. Nothing masochistic about it at all.

[Dhsu]

I'm pretty sure lots of people would say the same for FF7. Face it, you like the pain.

[CE]

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?

I like how 2 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/starfoxds) counts as inflated for Starfox Command :P

Btw, I'm guessing that you're a contract employee no? Most testers are, so...

I don't work for them anymore, so no, no longer a contract employee. And guess what? I'm still enjoying Deep Labyrinth!

Starfox Command is absolute crap. I've played it. For enough time to know that it sucks. But have fun with it. Most gamers are masochists (just look at the popularity of Final Fantasy 7).

Maybe SFC got better after the demo you played...

[Smoke]

Here's what I see happening: Starfox Command getting inflated reviews when it's not that good and Deep Labyrinth getting bad reviews when it's actually pretty sweet.

I understand the reliance on reviews, but you're kind of cheating yourself out of a good game based on arbitrary scores. Might I recommend borrowing Deep Labyrinth from someone to give it a try and see if you like it?

I like how 2 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/starfoxds) counts as inflated for Starfox Command :P

Btw, I'm guessing that you're a contract employee no? Most testers are, so...

I don't work for them anymore, so no, no longer a contract employee. And guess what? I'm still enjoying Deep Labyrinth!

Starfox Command is absolute crap. I've played it. For enough time to know that it sucks. But have fun with it. Most gamers are masochists (just look at the popularity of Final Fantasy 7).

Maybe SFC got better after the demo you played...

They already altered the controls a bit, a Barrel Roll can now be done at any time by drawing a circle on the screen, rather than the previously-reported flying through rings. The entire game is still screen-controlled though.

[Penfold]

I don't work for them anymore, so no, no longer a contract employee. And guess what? I'm still enjoying Deep Labyrinth!

Starfox Command is absolute crap. I've played it. For enough time to know that it sucks. But have fun with it. Most gamers are masochists (just look at the popularity of Final Fantasy 7).

LOL, I forgot that Phthisis is the absolute authority on what EVERYONE's tastes must be for games.

No one is attacking Deep Labyrinth, like how you're attacking like everything :P. Enough with your "no one can see beyond 1st party/Square Enix titles but me, so I must enlighten them!"/persecution complex bullshit. Especially here people are aware of the 3rd party titles, so quit your Atlus crusade already. Doesn't matter who makes a game if it doesn't appeal to someone...if people don't care for Deep Labyrinth, they won't but it. You know what else? It's the same thing for Starfox Command, or any other game for that matter. What you're trying to do is what critics do: tell people to buy games cuz you say so, being the high authority you are Mr. ex-contract game tester (not that a pro game designer [or even a critic for that matter] would be any more of an authority).

Lucky for us, there exist DS download stations so we can try out games like DL and SFC before purchasing and decide for ourselves what we like and want to buy. I'm willing to give both a fair try, though they're not even on the list right now and won't be for at least the rest of the calendar year (given all the Wii games I'm getting, plus FFIII and Contact for DS).

EDIT:
Maybe SFC got better after the demo you played...

That's a possibility, one that Phthisis should recognize given that he didn't come in late on a project. He should know all about the different builds that testers have to bug, and how vast the differences can be. Of course, he may just not like the game, which is fine since no one said he HAS to like it :P lol.

[UnforgivingEdges]

OH YEAH HAY GUYZ STARFOX COMMAND IS GOING TO BE AN AWESOME GAME (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116491)

For 12 year-old fgts.

[Bigfoot]

Ok, we get it. Starfox Command is going to suck.



Holy crap stfu.

[DZComposer]

I imported the Japanese version. It doesn't really suck.

The controls feel intuitive to me (moreso than Star Fox Assault did). Though it would have been nice touse the buttons for a couple of things, such as boost and brake.

The story is so dependant on your choices that I can't really put an overall opinion to it, but I do not like some of the endings.

It could use more variety, yes, but it is still fun.

But, because I am a big Star Fox Fanatic, my opinion will be dismissed as biased so I don't even know why I bother stating it. :roll:

[UnforgivingEdges]

I imported the Japanese version. It doesn't really suck.

The controls feel intuitive to me (moreso than Star Fox Assault did). Though it would have been nice touse the buttons for a couple of things, such as boost and brake.

The story is so dependant on your choices that I can't really put an overall opinion to it, but I do not like some of the endings.

It could use more variety, yes, but it is still fun.

But, because I am a big Star Fox Fanatic, my opinion will be dismissed as biased so I don't even know why I bother stating it. :roll:

YOU'RE BIASED. WHY DID YOU EVEN BOTHER STATING YOUR OPINION?

[DZComposer]

See? :lol:

[bouncerboy15]

I'm looking forward to Star Fox Command. It reminds me of Star Fox 2. (I'm talking about the cancelled SNES game.)

[KWarp]

IGN gave Star Fox Command a pretty good score.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/728/728375p1.html

I'm not interested in the game in the least, but it's good to know the franchise has been brought back to its SNES roots.

[Darth GourryGN]

Get FREEDOM WINGS, bitches!

If you need a flight game for DS, get it. And by get it I mean buy it. It's a combination of flight sim and action rpg and the controls are excellent. Only $20, too.

Tell your parents, "Buy me Freedom Wings or go to Hell!"

That is all. :D

[UnforgivingEdges]

Get FREEDOM WINGS, bitches!

If you need a flight game for DS, get it. And by get it I mean buy it. It's a combination of flight sim and action rpg and the controls are excellent. Only $20, too.

Tell your parents, "Buy me Freedom Wings or go to Hell!"

That is all. :D

Could you elaborate? I was kind of interested in it, but it's not getting very good review scores, and I'd like a hands-on impression from someone.

[Bigfoot]

Ugh, the little plasic surrounding area on my DS Lite is coming off. The little area above the GBA slot. I'm wondering if I should just send it into NOA or replace it with my replacement plan at Best Buy.

[Penfold]

Ugh, the little plasic surrounding area on my DS Lite is coming off. The little area above the GBA slot. I'm wondering if I should just send it into NOA or replace it with my replacement plan at Best Buy.

I'm kinda curious how the replacement plan works. A friend bought his DS at Best Buy with the plan so when the black DS lites come out he can just replace it straight across. Is it something you can only do once?
If you can replace multiple times through the plan, I'd say just do it that way (since you'll receive your replacement immediately instead of waiting a few days for it). Either way, though, maybe NOA should be notified so they're aware of the problem (so they know what percentage has that defect so they can fix it for future waves).

[Darth GourryGN]

Get FREEDOM WINGS, bitches!

If you need a flight game for DS, get it. And by get it I mean buy it. It's a combination of flight sim and action rpg and the controls are excellent. Only $20, too.

Tell your parents, "Buy me Freedom Wings or go to Hell!"

That is all. :D

Could you elaborate? I was kind of interested in it, but it's not getting very good review scores, and I'd like a hands-on impression from someone.

I just got the game yesterday, and I was pleasantly surprised. I've played for about two hours, mostly just flying around busting up random enemies.

You have two options for controlling your plane: "AI mode" and manual mode; you can switch at any time. In AI mode you basically let your plane do the fighting and flying while you tell it where to go/who to kill using the touch screen. You also control the general altitude and speed using sliders on either side of the touch screen. AI mode is nice to use against weaker enemies because the targeting is accurate but your plane doesn't seem to want to turn very fast, so you should take an active role. The other option is manual mode. Manual mode is regular flight-sim style controls; d-pad works like a joystick, L and R buttons the are rudder, and you still use the touch screen for throttle. The buttons are for guns, radar, and targeting. Landing at a runway is simple and forgiving as long as you have even the slightest idea of how a plane lands :D . Manual mode is generally best, as it is more fun and necessary to beat stronger opponents.

You have a buch of choices for upgrading your plane's stats (speed, weight, maneuvering, armor, power) as you level up. You level up in a fashon similar to (exactly like) rpgs. Kill enemies, get experience based on their levels, and get money, too. You buy better weapons and armor with your money.

When you take off and start flying around, air pirates will randomly show up and you'll want to kill them. Once, a short time after taking off there was a cargo plane that was under attack; I saved it, and when I landed and went to the cafe (you go to the cafe to get information from various dirty-looking people). He rewarded me with some money. I talked to another even dirtier-looking guy and he gave me information about a pirate airfield. I decided to head for the airfield and I also decided to use AI mode. Along the way my plane made short work of bad guys at lower levels, but when I got to the target, the AI had a long dogfight with a high level enemy and then got shot down by the heavy fire from the enemy zeppelin. I'll try manual mode next time.

You can fly wherever you want, but you'll want to stay away from areas with high level enemies. Flying from one area to another can take awhile; the game area seems huge. The graphics in the game are excellent for the planes, with spinning propellers and visible pilots. The terrain looks good from the air but some of the textures (mostly the ones for cities) can be pretty bad up close. The music is not spectacular, but it fits the game perfectly.

There is only one save file, and you lose half of your money that you gained when you are shot down. I haven't played multiplayer.

Umm... that's it so far. I haven't really gotten into the story yet, but I don't care if there is much of one because I am enjoying the gameplay so far.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Interesting. 20 bucks eh? I may pick it up if I find a lull in my schedule. I'd like to hear what your overall impressions are once you beat the game.

[Rexy]

I don't want to rub off and sound like a jerk, but I actually like SFC's artwork. I know that it was given a more "realistically-situated" look, but that shouldn't be the reason on why people seem to keep hating on it. It's just art, people.

[Baleshadow]

Ugh, the little plasic surrounding area on my DS Lite is coming off. The little area above the GBA slot. I'm wondering if I should just send it into NOA or replace it with my replacement plan at Best Buy.

That's exactly what happened to me. I sent it in to Nintendo, and they sent me a brand new system within five days.

Just be sure to keep the little thing that plugs into the GBA slot when you do.

[Bigfoot]

Ugh, the little plasic surrounding area on my DS Lite is coming off. The little area above the GBA slot. I'm wondering if I should just send it into NOA or replace it with my replacement plan at Best Buy.

I'm kinda curious how the replacement plan works. A friend bought his DS at Best Buy with the plan so when the black DS lites come out he can just replace it straight across. Is it something you can only do once?
If you can replace multiple times through the plan, I'd say just do it that way (since you'll receive your replacement immediately instead of waiting a few days for it). Either way, though, maybe NOA should be notified so they're aware of the problem (so they know what percentage has that defect so they can fix it for future waves).


I believe as long as you can prove there is something wrong with it, you can exchange it as many times as you want the 1st year.

Ugh, the little plasic surrounding area on my DS Lite is coming off. The little area above the GBA slot. I'm wondering if I should just send it into NOA or replace it with my replacement plan at Best Buy.

That's exactly what happened to me. I sent it in to Nintendo, and they sent me a brand new system within five days.

Just be sure to keep the little thing that plugs into the GBA slot when you do.

Wait, you're saying keep the GBA slot piece when sending it in? Why?

[CE]

page 50 people :D

[Baleshadow]

Wait, you're saying keep the GBA slot piece when sending it in? Why?

Because they don't send you a replacement piece. At least they didn't for me.

[Bigfoot]

Wait, you're saying keep the GBA slot piece when sending it in? Why?

Because they don't send you a replacement piece. At least they didn't for me.

Did they send you just a DS Lite? Or one new in the box?

If it wasn't new in the box, how do you know it wasn't just yours but fixed? :P

[JoeFu]

Nintendo doesn't send in repaired stuff, just look at the serial number of the DS and you can tell easily.

Also, I saw a bunch of copies of Deep Labyrinth at Fry's today, I think I'm gonna go try and get it this weekend.

[Baleshadow]

Wait, you're saying keep the GBA slot piece when sending it in? Why?

Because they don't send you a replacement piece. At least they didn't for me.

Did they send you just a DS Lite? Or one new in the box?

If it wasn't new in the box, how do you know it wasn't just yours but fixed? :P

They just sent the system. The invoice listed it as a new system, the serial number was different, and all the system settings were erased.

[KWarp]

Found a copy of Trauma Center today. Think it was the last one at the store too. I am very pleased. :)

DS Wi-Fi Connection users breaks 2 million. (http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13643) Seems like it's becoming bigger than Xbox Live isn't it? :wink: [/url]

[CE]

Found a copy of Trauma Center today. Think it was the last one at the store too. I am very pleased. :)

DS Wi-Fi Connection users breaks 2 million. (http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13643) Seems like it's becoming bigger than Xbox Live isn't it? :wink: [/url]

Wut? How big is the XBL userbase? Then again it is paid. I'd actually prefer a service like theirs to what it has now :?

[AzureZeal]

Did a search that said that a nearby blockbuster had some leftover copies of Phoenix Wright. I really hope they have some left as this thread has gotten me very interested in this game.

[Smoke]

I picked up a black DS Lite today(Along with reserving a Wii)

I should have done this much earlier.

[KWarp]

Wut? How big is the XBL userbase? Then again it is paid. I'd actually prefer a service like theirs to what it has now :?
They broke 2 million (http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGuGLLLLrN07201305) back in 2005. The DS userbase is growing at more than 3x the rate of Xbox Live (2 million in ~32 months vs 2 million in 9 months), so I think they'll surpass XL before the end of the year. :P

[Penfold]

Holy b'jesus that was fast! (http://ds.ign.com/articles/728/728959p1.html) It's only been out for like 5 days, that's pretty crazy it has sold that well already.

[Power Surge]

Star Fox Command scored an 81% at Game Rankings. (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/933009.asp) Not bad, but I still have doubts.

Still, I might consider getting it now.

[watkinzez]

Looks like Phthisis was right- Starfox's 8.0 on IGN reeks of MK:DD to me in that it wasn't a good game and probably only got that score to lessen the fan backlash.

[CE]

I trust gamespot the most: 7.5

I can't afford a 7.5 game.