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[Pi_R_[]ed]

Oh, sorry. Your sig made it look like you have a band...

Well, either way, thanks!

[avaris]

check your pm box homie. Big reply in there.

On a more general note, I wish there were more WIP's for this project right now, but there aren't so we gotta wait. Thanks for comments on the xenogears project. We are running and handling our project in a way that at the end of the day will allow the project to be succesful and reach the full potential that the ost has. It's a different way of running things but we have very good reasons for doing so that have been discussed and decided on by those involved.

I'll do what I can for this project in the meantime like trying to finish up my mix, need some feedback at this point though. I'm wicked busy though, similar to most people this time of year. If I have enough time and am inspired by a track maybe I'll sign up for another, but that wouldn't be for awhile. We def need to get to that 2/3 mark.

[Spunodi]

Sign me up for Dr. Robotnik -

I have a near complete E.G.G.M.A.N ReMix I haven't touched in a while that would be perfect for this.

And I would perhaps tackle Sonic 1 gg boss music - do-do-doo-dududu-de-doo....

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Sure, send me a PM. Finally, another artist, signed on.

ME, not Kanjika. I don't know where that guy's been, but I'm getting worried...

[Pi_R_[]ed]

You know, Avaris brought up something that really hit me, in his PM.

I tried mixing. I downloaded fruity loops, and my computer couldnt handle it. That was three months ago, and now school is back. If anyone can reccomend a course of action, and is willing to help me, I'd love to work on one of these tracks. Nobody's gotten Bowser yet, and maybe with the help of a high-end artist, we could collaborate on a kick-ass track, while I learn what the hell im doing in the first place.

Anyone know any good artists that might be interested?

[Rexy]

I think the best idea to go about this is to track down any Mario specialists. Mind you, what kind of genre do you have in mind for your arrangement; is it rock? Is it trance? Is it salsa? (actually scratch that last suggestion :?)

It would also help if you are able to get out there and promote the project a little more. Being stuck in the Requests forums is tough, and I learnt the hard way with the Dragon Warrior project in its first month or so. From project experience, I would advise you to PM anyone and everyone about it; if you have thoughts of any specific artists covering specific songs (like you did when contacting me to do Cortex), ask them. If that falls through, go through your next choices in line and so on and so on. I am really sure this will help things out.

On top of that I will be able to arrive at the Liverpool campus on Sunday, and once I do I will be able to start work on my arrangement. Odds are I may need to find a guitarist myself to help cover some ground, but we'll see what happens :)

[Foxhull]

i definately agree with Rexy. I never would have had as many remixers as i have over at Humans and Gears without PMing people.
Also, Rexy's current number of posts:2008 (the year i graduate from high school 8O )

[Nineko]

Rexy's current number of posts:2008 (the year i graduate from high school 8O )quick, rexy, delete 6 posts so it will be the year I graduated from high school :lol:

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Why does everyone think I didn't PM enough people? I sent messages out to, maybe 20 people, and double that to 40 when you count what Kanjika sent out.

And, Bowser? Of course he's gonna be rock. If there is any track that expresses the following idea, it's gonna be this one; A good site project shouldn't be distinguishable from the Genres of music featured within. Bowser's gonna rock. Hard. "Bowser is Pissed"? Nowhere near what I want that track to be. Don't get me wrong, it was good; one of my favorites. But, thats more like a stepping stone onto where this track is.

The crowning piece of this album, everyone knows who Bowser is. Starting off with a short bit of final bowser's theme from Mario 64, dark, slow,and maybe a little drugged-out and warped around. Speeds up, into another very short bit of a darker version of the boss music from Sunshine. The main body of the ReMix would be Bowser's theme in 64. Not Koopa's Road, but the on ewhen you actually fight him. Then, I think, using the SMB castle theme for a while, do something with that. Throw the SMW Koopa kids in for a very short while. Finish with "Final Bowser" from 64.

Now, I'm no music expert (And, yet, I'm the coordinator). I mean, it sounds good in my head, but, for real? I don't know. Opinions?

EDIT: I dont know how I could ignore his theme in Yoshi's Island. Thats gotta be in there somewhere. But its seems to crowded, I think.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

1st WIPs due by November 19th. For those of you who couldn't tell, thats the North American Wii release date. Sorry, but thanks you for playing, drop by again soon.

And theres no way I would have given you that 5 anyway. Now go. Go write music. Write like the wind.

[avaris]

2 months ahead ya whahaha. I'll have a newer and slightly more extended version by then... :lol: That came out wrong. Well maybe some new pads and def some overall dynamics added. Gonna add some rythm guitar n the last part.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

...Sad to say Manji's out. He's busy, and gonna be for a long while. Which means Sephiroth's Theme is up for grabs.

Let me point out, as I said before, that Seph's got three themes.

Birth of a God
Those Chosen by the Planet
One-Winged Angel

Now, beacause OWA has been redone several times, for things like Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts, and FF7 albums, it has been decided that One-Winged Angel Cannot Be Done Alone! Whoever ends up with Sephiroth needs to know that all 3 themes must be present.

[avaris]

all 3. what about just 2 of 3 might be more reasonable?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, whatever. Its just that, redoing OWA wouldnt result in anything new. I mean sure, you could do it in samba, or mambo. Maybe in the style of the Beach Boys? Or, howabout 50 Cent? You could have someone yodel the latin, or maybe a country-western ballade. But, 2/3's fine. I just dont want to end up with something thats already been heard.

...actually, some of those don't sound too bad.

[Koelsch1]

i definately agree with Rexy. I never would have had as many remixers as i have over at Humans and Gears without PMing people.

5?

[avaris]

i definately agree with Rexy. I never would have had as many remixers as i have over at Humans and Gears without PMing people.

5?

Just bc Im an ass
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/swallace21/stopposting4vrsf1.gif

Seriously though, if u post something here at least make it related to this project and not other projects.
EDIT: I agree with Rexy. Besides all this BS your music is pretty good.

Oh by the way if anyone wants to do the Sephiroth theme OWA and whatever other track you wanna include in a fast paced orchestral track with lots of energy, send me a PM, I have an absolutely wicked idea. I can give you a song that will give you a damn good example of what I'm talking about too.

Even if someone just wants to do the arrangement but does not have the samples to pull it off, I will do the instrumentation for you with Native Instruments Kontakt 2 and Kompakt. I'd do the mix, but I got way too many things going on to do it. But, I could handle doing the instrumentation.

[Rexy]

Koelsch, the guy you quoted has more than five personnel on his project, though I wouldn't be as harsh as he was saying though. As much as I appreciate your sax work, I'd say try not to make it sound like you were attacking the wrong guy(s).

My apologies for posting that message in the Xenogears topic by mistake :oops:

[avaris]

My apologies for posting that message in the Xenogears topic by mistake :oops:

That's cool Rexy. Let's just say it was an "unofficial" bump to our thread. Thanks for the support :wink:

Yeah anyone whose interested :roll: look up there, about the Sephiroth mix.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

"That's cool Rexy"
"i definately agree with Rexy"
"I agree with Rexy"

...you know, sexism work both ways. Its a shame that someone gets respect because they have a different anatomy than you, and not their remixing skills, or anything that pertains to the site we're on. If a judge, or another famous mixer was here, I guarantee HE wouldn't get anywhere near that respect. No offense, Rexy. It's not that you don't deserve it, its just that, to me, it seems like you're getting it for the wrong reason.

soooooooooooooo........, with that all said and done. Avaris, anyone can post anything here. Bumps, ReMixes, why they didn't get their math homework in on time, or what color their underwear is (blue).

Now, I'm on dial up (but my whole county's getting free wi-fi soon!). If The Koelsch's music is as good as you say it is, maybe he'd like to join. If someone can tell me in the next 5 hours if his music is good (like I said, dial-up). Otherwise, by then, I'll find out myself.

If you want to join in at all, that is.

[Koelsch1]

Im kind of interested in this project, but I dont want to sign up because Im not sure if I can commit the time to working on anything at the moment. I dont know, Ill take a look at some of the source material.

But Im available to play sax that anyone may need.

[avaris]

Sexism? Rexy made some good points, so she gets some respect. Don't see anything wrong there. She felt bad bout posting that in our project forum, and I just let her know it's cool. Koelsch just made a comment bout the xenogears project that in my opinion didn't need to be said. He does have some good stuff go check it out the WIP other section. My comment about posting was just a general rule of thumb for myself. Might not be for everyone.

Well these kinda arguments and shit are stupid, and nothing has been accomplished from them. No hard feelings guys.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Yeesh. I guess I did go a little over-the-top there. But, I dunno. I just get a kinda peeved by that stuff. But, no harm done. I just hope that that one little comment doesn't kill this whole thread.

The Koelsch1, if you've been keeping up, I did say that I want to do a jazz album, if this ones as much of a succes as I hope. Ill keep you in the back of my head for now.

[Koelsch1]

Ok, put me down for Earthbound.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

You got it, chief.

[Kirbymixer]

I'm suprised no one took King Dedede yet. Can I take it? :)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

You got an audition? PM me one of your works, Ill listen, then (hopefully) you get on.

If you don't have any work, well... we can work something out.

[Nineko]

ed]You got an audition?He has a lot of cool stuff. Speaking of Kirby games, I suggest you to look at here: http://shariqansari.com/kirby/media.php :wink:

[Rexy]

Most of Kirbymixer's tracks are at VGMix, though it's hard saying that now ever since that site's down at the moment. I think the only two remixes that seem to be in mere existance at the moment is "Drops of Dreamriver" from Rise of the Star (which Nineko linked to) and his sole entry into the PRC "I See Light", which ironically, covered some Kirby 64 music (http://www.doulifee.com/prc/PrcSong/prc.php?prcid=45) ;)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

"At the moment"? Hasn't it been over a year at this point? Well, whatever. Kirbymixer, you're on.

Wow. 2 Signed on, on the same page of the thread. Now we're making some progress.

[Kirbymixer]

Hurray \o/

Anyway. Why is that deadline while half of the tracks aren't claimed?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, I gave mixers two months. Ample time for a WIP. But if someone doesnt get it in by then, they're out.

Its not really for getting things done early, it just lets them know that sooner or later they are going to have to get things done. If they're serious about the project, they will ind the time to get the WIP in. See?

Oh, by the way, I officially decided (although I've already mentioned it plenty times) that we ARE GOING TO HAVE A VOLUME 2. That way, we cover what we missed (and the rest in vol. III!). Besides, It'll give us all something to do.

This is a warning: KANJIKA, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, POST, GODDAMIT! ITS BEEN A MONTH!. If he doesn't show soon, I'm picking someone new to help. It's not that I need any assistance at the time being, but saying you are dedicated, and showing it are two different things.

Oh, BTW, we now have 14/27 people signed up. Think its time to ask for a move? We may not have every track assigned like some projects cough*megaman*cough, but thats what "general" is for, right? The attention, to get new people to sign up!

Would anyone have a problem if we end up with any tracks with two mixers? In the most optomistic light possible, every track would have 5 people on it. But that ain't happening. But, usually, having more than one mier on a track lets it develop into something deeper, because it gets two viewpoints, and two sets of mixing skills, right?

[Anorak]

Wa-wait!

I'd like to audition, if you'll have me. I have some remixes that are mostly done that you can hear. I'll understand if you only want notable people that are already prevalent here on though.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Man, thats what I like to see. mlo, you want it, you got it. Screw famous people (no offense to famous people). They get cars, they have huge houses, they get to go on commercial space flights... I think its about time the average joes gets their cut! My fellow humans, let us rise, rise and throw a rebellion against Hollywood and the likes! No more crappy buddy movies! No more sappy Romances! And how about making the news back into the news? It's not supposed to be a sitcom. I just want to know if its going to rain this weekend! And commercials should advertise the product they're selling! I take bake what I said before! All offense to famous people. They suck.

... mlo you don't need to be a famous mixer to get on. You just need to be good. So, where are these said "WIP"s? Do you have a track in mind?

[Anorak]

Well, I'd rather choose what track to do after being 'confirmed' for the project. I'll PM you the links for a couple WIPs and I guess you can decide from there.

[Foxhull]

my most recently uploaded WIP is on the forums(its about a month old), check it out, but know that i am completely redoing it, that is just a bit of concept work

[Kanjika]

ed]This is a warning: KANJIKA, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, POST, GODDAMIT! ITS BEEN A MONTH!. If he doesn't show soon, I'm picking someone new to help. It's not that I need any assistance at the time being, but saying you are dedicated, and showing it are two different things.

I told you that I would start checking here again, so don't worry.

And everyone can also send wips to me now.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Oooooooooooooo. Close, man. Nice save.

mlo, you're on. Pick a track, and go give it hell. Oh, you wanted to be on this project? I gotcha.

No.

No, no. Sure! Go ahead! Really, go pick something. No fooling this time.

[Anorak]

Hey! I almost fell for that... :P

I'll do K. Rool's track.

[Foxhull]

update on my WIP is posted, check it out

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I just realized...

I put a link to our thread in my signature, and have been visiting the general thread more than usual lately. In less than a week, our thread view count shot up from 8000 to 9000. I think I'm onto something...

[Kanjika]

ed]I just realized...

I put a link to our thread in my signature, and have been visiting the general thread more than usual lately. In less than a week, our thread view count shot up from 8000 to 9000. I think I'm onto something...

YES. We need project sigs. Anyone who wants to give it a shot, go ahead.

[Ronyn]

I was just thinking last week that it might be cool to remix the Atma Weapon theme from FFVI (Orchestral). Any chance that boss list is flexible, or is it in stone already? That's okay if it is. I think I still might be interested in maybe tackling one, if you want me to. I'll pick one if 'ney' on Atma Weapon.

Edit: Oh nm. I didn't see the voting ended part. Hmm...let's see...

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, there's always volume two. At any rate, it's better than putting 45 mixes onto one album...

[Ronyn]

Want me to try a mix? I'm thinking probably Illusion of Gaia.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Sure. You have an audition piece? I ask that every time, no one seems to get it...

HUGE ISSUE!! Some people signed up for this project (namely Dew., Cerrax, and Adhesive_Boy) got the PM's I sent out, but have not yet read them. I have all of their AIM's listed for myself, but only Adhesive_Boy is ever on, although he is always away. How do I get their attention? I only have AIM, but if anyone else has one of the other services, try to get their attention. I don't want to lose anybody just because they ran out of time.

[Ronyn]

You'll have to forgive me, I'm just too lazy to read. :wink: Plus I don't check Request forum that often so this thread is new to me. Sorry bout that.

Well I got some new samples, so I'd hate to give you old crap. I have a submission on the judges panel now though:

http://www.jamesgeorgemusicandsound.com/files/Visions_Of_Kin.mp3

It's kind of a tamer track though. If I do a boss theme, don't worry, I'll pull out the kick ass stuff, whatever I got.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, the first 16 seconds are OK, too bad the download corrupted after that. It's not your fault, its mine. Ill have to re-download it some other time.

BUT! I came up with an idea for sigs. On the left, all the bad guys in a group, chasing the good guys off the right. If they can fly, they fly. Bowser in the Koopa Clown Car, DeDeDe holding his mallet above his head, Mother Brain in a jar on wheels...?

Mario leading the group, hat almost flying off, Samus in morph ball form, Sonic... also rolled up into a ball. But they all looked scared shitless, like "Oh man, we're really screwed now".

Anyone think that could all be fit into a little sig?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

OOH! IDEA! Everyone remembers "Zero Wing"? In fact, OCR was the first place to rediscover it, I think. Did CATS have a theme? You know where I;m going with this...

[Ronyn]

Just for fun I threw some samples on top of the gaia theme just to see what kind of sound I could get. The end result:

http://www.jamesgeorgemusicandsound.com/files/gaia.mp3

It's a rip, I know, of course I'll arrange it if I work on it, but it'll give you an idea; consider it an audition. 8) Not mixed or mastered either, so be lenient.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

If I do a boss theme, don't worry, I'll pull out the kick ass stuff, whatever I got.

You'd better. It got interesting towards the end, and now I want to hear more! The only problem is that, if thats the intro, it's too long. So, I guess your on. Don't disappoint!

Kick Ass should be our tagline. If not badass, which I have used uncountable amounts of times.

ReMixers, think of your favorite mix, in this genre. Everybody has one. Now, do better than that. Simple! Don't give "It's too hard" or "There's no way I could be that good!". Just... be better. If that artist is better than you, point him or her in our direction. Or, better yet. why not take a good opportunity to collaborate? Maybe you will end up making a great team.

[Kirbymixer]

Collaborations aren't automatically better... and they're harder to make.

[Rexy]

That's true. The Overture collab for Children of Erdrick was scrapped and left to a single figure to do the job. :?

But either way, I'm seeing that this is steadily making headway. Though, to tie in with the 75% fill quota rule that was mentioned in the FAQ, I'd probably say you'd aim for at least 20 filled spots before you start raiding GenDisc. I hope this is some kind of help.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Collaborations aren't automatically better... and they're harder to make.

Yeah, but they can be better, too. Im not saying do it, but what happens if a great mixer comes along, and says sign me up for "x" when its already taken? Just... be ready.

And noone has answered my problem, yet Some people signed up for this project (namely Dew., Cerrax, and Adhesive_Boy) got the PM's I sent out, but have not yet read them. I have all of their AIM's listed for myself, but only Adhesive_Boy is ever on, although he is always away. How do I get their attention? I only have AIM, but if anyone else has one of the other services, try to get their attention. I don't want to lose anybody just because they ran out of time.

Everyone remembers "Zero Wing"? In fact, OCR was the first place to rediscover it, I think. Did CATS have a theme? You know where I'm going with this...

Comments? Did CATS even have a theme?

[Arek the Absolute]

Avaris you better make the sinistral battle song kick major ass. You know that that song is one that has been highly anticipated.
The bar is quite high. ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE?

[avaris]

Avaris you better make the sinistral battle song kick major ass. You know that that song is one that has been highly anticipated.
The bar is quite high. ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE?

Don't get your panties all in a bunch, it's gonna be bad ass. It's a pretty intense mix. Been goin through all my shiznite from Komplete 3 gathering instruments. Alot of the arrangement is already in place.

This game holds a special place in my heart right next to FF4. (or FFII like it says on the original title screen on the snes) I remember screwin up with the three differen coloured towers in the middle of the game and having to start over mother...

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Don't get your panties all in a bunch, it's gonna be bad ass.

Badass? It better be. Yeah!

[Ronyn]

Finally got off my ass and found the forums. Posted some work, will update from now on.

P.S. Put my name on the list bro! No track usurpers! Plus I'll feel all special warm and fuzzy. :wink:

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Totally sorry about that. But, good luck with the mix.

OK, well then... any other news?

[andyjayne]

Still recruiting? I'm interested in remixing Phantasy Star 4 - Dark Force in a similar style to Ulver, though I probably wouldn't be able to get that style captured by the first WIP date.

[Anorak]

ed]Everyone remembers "Zero Wing"? In fact, OCR was the first place to rediscover it, I think. Did CATS have a theme? You know where I'm going with this...

Comments? Did CATS even have a theme?

I downloaded the game's GYMs. It doesn't look like CATS had a theme, no. If someone who actually played the game can confirm this, that'd be nice.

Suppose someone could do the Intro. Would that be a statement of CATS' theme? I dunno.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Of course we're still recruiting! Or, rather, no. You know, I think the remaining tracks are fine on their own. We can always just go and put MIDI's in the album... no one would mind, right?

Yeah, yeah, I gotta lay off the sarcasm. Here's what Ill do:

I set the WIP date for Nov. 19, on Sep. 25. That was 55 days (I think, was my math off?). So, today's the 11th. Ill give you 55 days, same as everybody else. Thats till Dec. 5 (again... I think). How bout I do that for everybody who joins from this point on? 55 days for a WIP, I think thats good enough, right?

On a similar point... Cerrax and Dew. still haven't checked their inboxes... if someone else has a way to contact them, please do so. I sent them both emails... but, well, I dont know where that'll go.

[Foxhull]

FL is messing with me right now so its gonna be a little bit before i can update my WIP

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, yours is already in, so no problem.

BUT WAIT!!!! I just realised, we have over 10,000 pageviews! Happy day to me!

[andyjayne]

ed]So, today's the 11th. Ill give you 55 days, same as everybody else. Thats till Dec. 5 (again... I think).
Several sweetnesses. That'll give me time to work on the arrangement and buy some new gear so I should be able to try and get the track in that sort of style by then. :D

[Ronyn]

I'll just pretend you said two months. I have enough fingers to count to that. :P

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Yeah, OK. All's good. I'm a little... suspicious of all the new additions in the past week, however. Is this some sort of prank? Seriously? Aww... whatever. Ill just go add you to the list. There you go!

[Ronyn]

<--- member since 2003 seeeeeeeeee :wink: I'm just clueless and lazy to have noticed this project before.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Absolutely. You have to be the most slothful person I have ever met. I am personally disgusted, and your foulness is stinking up our thread. Leave, before your disease spreads to the rest of us. Just... just go.

Like I said, too much sarcasm. Don't actually leave. But the Calvin and Hobbes sig is too much. I'm thinking of scanning through my old books, too find a good sequence like that, if you wouldn't mind. I loved their books, and you made me go back and read them, for the first time in three years. Good for you!

EDIT: No, nevermind, I guess a sig is personal, and I wouldn't want to go around copying anyone else's. Mine took me two hours to think up... Ok, maybe it was like, 20 minutes, and it wasn't all at once, either, but I still wouldn't want anyone copying it. Everyone knows thats the symbol for Pi, right?


BTW, andyjayne, that one thing on your site, I really liked. Interesting, 'cause its showing off a bunch of styles, but you make it work.

[Ronyn]

Lmao, I'm gonna call you sarcastro, the castro of sarcasm. Yeah, I got your sig. I had to squint to see if you turned the coin into a pie. I think you did. It's the subject of much debate here at NASA (eat sarcasm...sarcasm pie...mua ha ha...!!)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

That coin isn't a pie.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Man, nothing ever turns out right...

I tried to make it look like a pie, and I end up with a cracker. A cracker! Like a saltine you get with soup at a diner. I hate those diners. You go, thinking you are going to end up with a nice meal, but every time you pick something you don't normally eat, it ends up all funky tasting. But I want new things! Every time I end up at a diner, it's either an egg omelette, pancakes, or a cheeseburger! Why don't I just go for lunch, and never stop by for dinner? 'Cause of my idiotic family, that thinks going to a crappy little diner is going to be better then Outback, Olive Garden, or Ben's Kosher Deli. What could possibly be wrong with them, that they think a diner's hot dogs could be better then one from Ben's? Plus, diners never have cream soda, and their meals don't come with knishes! Aaargh! People are so stupid!

[Anorak]

...

So, um, I got about the first minute done. It's at the forum. Some feedback would be nice.

Or feed. Im'a eat lunch. (Such a lax thread.)

[Ronyn]

It's not a pie? Man I'm so disillusioned...

Yes, I agree, very strange thread indeed. Someone type a long ass entry so we can turn the page.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Thats what I like. Already ~10 pageviews. So, I wonder whos listening in? Obviously, me, you, maybe a few other artists. But, do we have any fans yet?

... and tell me how lunch is. What is it, a sandwich? Soup? Souls?

Oh, and of course, there's the mix. IMO, it sounds a little sloppy, but in a good way, like the track itself is trying to pull itself together, out of a ooze-like state. Bits are dripping around, and congealing into a track. Its strange, but theres something primal about ti I like. K. Rool is a croc, after all, untouched by millions of years of evolution. Someone gets it! Tracks based on the character, not the original piece!

[Anorak]

Hmm. Okay. I'll get going on the rest; I definately have my ideas sorted out.

So, in a sense this is like writing a character's theme for a movie. Remixing a theme, whichever. Writing for their character. I sorta just did it without even thinking about it.

But more importantly: I had crackers for lunch.

I know, I know. It was one of those days where there's nothing to make a sandwich with, I don't feel like making anything...so I start snacking and eventually just wander away from the kitchen in dismay.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Crackers, huh? If that isnt some sorta crazy coincidence, I dont know what is (See previous post). I had eggs on a roll, with cheddar cheese, and pepper. Simple, but great. Melts in your mouth warmth, and a bottle of OJ. Tropicana, I think. Does it really matter? Yes! Yes, it does!

But, yeah, the mix represents the character. Case in point, K. Rool is a croc. Unevolved for millennia (the tribal, primal beginning), but somehow manages to find a way to make good use of technology (maybe leading into techno or electronica?) Well, its up to you to decide... As long as you don't end up disappointing. But we shouldnt have to worry about that, should we? We'd better not. You know what happens to those who disappointed? They dont get to announce their lunch here!

And so what if we've got a weird thread? I like it, and obviously you do to if you haven't stopped coming back. I say we celebrate what we've got, not act ashamed of it. We wanna talk about our lunch, well you'd better believe that thats what we're gonna do. In fact, I say we report our lunch every day, unless it's another crappy diner. In that case, keep it to yourself. I really don't want to hear it.

LONG ASS ENTRY:
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGG HHH!

[Kanjika]

ed]

And so what if we've got a weird thread? I like it, and obviously you do to if you haven't stopped coming back. I say we celebrate what we've got, not act ashamed of it. We wanna talk about our lunch, well you'd better believe that thats what we're gonna do. In fact, I say we report our lunch every day, unless it's another crappy diner. In that case, keep it to yourself. I really don't want to hear it.


I had a really bad school taco, so you probably don't want to hear about that. I wonder if the gas I've had all day is because of this :? )

Looks like there's a lot more people on the tracklisting now too. If you have any WIPS, especially newer ones, you can also send them to me. I am not dead.

[avaris]

Thought I'd chime in. I had a peanut butter sandwich, and apple and a yogurt for lunch...the same thing every damn day. Of course it's all I can afford...

Yo Kanjika wat about ur WIP i wanna hear it!

[Anorak]

I didn't have lunch today. And I was really hungry around lunchtime, so I was working with a growling stomach. That is never fun.

Anyway, some people have WIPs in the forum. Although no one except me seems to use it, haha. I do need to get a new WIP up there though, and I'll certainly hook you up with one when I do.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I think... I think... I may have just invented the greatest form of bump ever.

And, I didn't have anything either, although I had pringles, half a pear, and a grilled cheese sandwich when I got home.

[leepmeister]

PI_R_[]ED check your PM box re: remixer for Bowser

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Nice... chalk another one up for Pi, baby, cause its the 9th and bases are loaded.

General Discussion... so close...

[leepmeister]

Greetings fellow remixers. I just joined this project to work on the remix for the Great King Koopa, Bowser. Just wanted to say ...hi to all.
:D

[avaris]

hola senor, by the way what did u have for lunch today..no seriously

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Im in my lab, right now, skipping over lunch. I have work to do. What Im doing on OCR instead, I have no idea...

[andyjayne]

Finished the arrangement of my track. Going to contact around to see if I can get one of the many talented guitarists to take up the job of recording the guitars. The style of the track is pretty different to what I originally said, it's more like a combination between various sub-genres of metal - technical / black / death.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, if leepmeister gets back to me, we may have a live bassist...

[andyjayne]

I am a live bassist and guitarist although I'm not good enough to play this track. :o

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Speaking of which, anyone else up for live instruments? I'd be no help, unless someone needs an accordionist... :? (First emoticon I have ever used. I despise the things, but they get the job done)

[Anorak]

Maybe. I'm not sure how good the quality would be due to my microphone. I'll have to test and see. I could play tenor sax, clarinet, soprano recorder, keyboards and accordion (haha!) at various degrees of difficulty; of course this is useless if you don't have a good mike.

Also, I'm PMing Pi and Kanjika an updated WIP. So watch out for that in the near future, and send me any comments.

No lunch again... this topic has really opened my eyes: I never eat lunch.

[Ronyn]

I play violin, viola, and bass. Although getting hands on the last one might be tough, doubt anyone would write solo bass anyway. If you need solo violin, I'm yer man. I got small hands though so viola usually takes more recording time to get in tune just right.

[Foxhull]

im in the process of learning guitar, but i don't think im good enough to do solos yet, maybe rhythm or backing

lunch...Peanut Butter and Grape Jelly sandwich, pickle, Capri Sonne, hershey kisses, oreos...thats pretty much it.

[leepmeister]

Hey guys. As PI mentioned, I am in fact a bassist. And I have pro recording equipment to boot. So, I can do some bass tracks...

of course, bass is one of the easier things to emulate, compared to the tonal complexity of distorted guitar, so...I'll only do interesting lines, or those that are hard to emulate

Does anyone have a clip of the Bowser laugh from Mario 64? I don't have my N64 at college...

[Anorak]

I can track one down, sure.

EDIT:This the one? (http://www.filelodge.com/files/room28/763781/bowserlaugh.wav)

[leepmeister]

Somehow I remember it being more ... evil :twisted: ...and longer.

But yeah that might do.

[Anorak]

Well, it was a bit longer. I cut it from this file. (http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/sounds/wav/sm64_bowser_message.wav) The music makes it hard to use though.

I'll file through Mario Golf and etc. quick and see if there's anything useable.

EDIT:

Some Mario Golf ones here. (http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/db/wav.ktn?Game=mg-n64)They're more like animal roars though.

Mario Kart's are pretty much the same...

I don't think there are any other games where he laughs, at least that I can find.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

OK, cool. Anyone who said they play an instrument, Ill post it in the main... uhh... post.

On the note of helping the project as a whole, does anyone have one of those really good, really expensive mixing programs? I think the word Im looking to describe this is someone to "master" the tracks. Everyone could send him/her their mixes, and he/she would remaster them. If the burden is too high for someone to do all that, we could always sign on a new person.

Or not.

And if you're planning on using that audio sample... well, now I really cant wait!

[Pi_R_[]ed]

You never know, lets try to contact Scott Burns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Burns). If Kong in Concert got praise, well, who knows, maybe we could go out and get it ourselves... We could have custom voices! SICK!!!

Sephiroth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Newbern), Cortex (www.LexLang.com), Liquid Ocelot (www.camclarke.com)... maybe intros to the website, or short clips of evil laughs, like Bowser, for instance. Hrmmm. the possibilities. Might be hard getting some of them to do it for free, though.

[Anorak]

Hell, we could just record our own voices, and lower/distort them.

[leepmeister]

No stranger to playing with vocal effects :)

But the real thing would be infintely better.

I just captured a bunch of sound clips off of Smash Bros... ;)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Original, or chunky? Err... I mean Melee?

And, yeah, the real thing would definately be better, I was just waiting for someone to say it before me...

Or, rather, getting those guys to speak, what would we have them say? "Hi, this is Sephiroth. Welcome, to the official 'Crescendo to Chaos' site. Have a good lunch!"? The prospect scares the crap outta me.

[Anorak]

There's an unofficial site?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

No, but there absolutely should be. Where we can share our preferences and gripes about food, and share our own recipes.

[Anorak]

I endorse this idea fully. Also, I put forward the title "Crescendo to Cooking."

By the way, did you get a chance to listen to my new WIP yet?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Yeah, it was great, but I guess the original post I had didnt go through, for some reason. It went along these lines:

"Ooh! mlo, I have chills. Its coming along great. The only problems I have to point out right now is the transition at 0:28. That, and something about 2:00 makes me want to play Sonic, but I guess that isn't a real problem."

I dont know why it didnt go through... but it would have gone with my post several up, that mentioned someone mastering the tracks.

Speaking of which...

[Anorak]

Hey, don't look at me. I'm mixing on a zero dollar budget. :lol: I know the Chrono Symphonic project was mastered though, by Compyfox, I think...? You could contact him.

And I'm just wondering when you're planning on moving to Gen. Discussion. We've met the requirements (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=62594) to do so, unless I've misunderstood something. (which is entirely possible)

[Ronyn]

Crescendo to Cooking.....I LOVE IT! ha ha

Sorry mlo, I keep intending to post regarding your mix. I'll try to today.

I could try and master some tracks, I've got the computer and software for it, but I'm still a bit of a neophyte compared to those in the "biz". If you can get someone that really has proven themselves that would be better though. If you can't get anyone, I can give it a shot.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, Rexy said wait until 20, and I don't want to argue about it with someone who has had MUCH more experience than myself, unless she wants to step forward and green light the get-go herself. Other wise, yeah, I completely agree. The fact that we are moving along much faster than the other projects stuck here in requests can only mean that we will have a very positive reaction with anyone that doesn't normally check this section of the forums.

So, what does everyone else think?

And, one more thing. Like I said before, +10,000 page views doesn't happen on it's own. Do we have fans out there, or what? Please, step forward. Knowing that there are people looking forward to this is exciting!

[C T snotkins]

Sorry to get off topic, but the Sloprano link is busted.Could somebody re-upload the WIP,or could sombody contact Sleepy Emp,and see how far he has gotten with it? Just because, we haven't heard from him in a while...

[leepmeister]

I have access to Cubase and its "mastering" (compression and EQ) plug-ins. If someone has more proper experience and the pro plug-ins specifically designed for mastering it would be better, but I am certainly no stranger to trying to master songs (e.g. for my band). I will warn though: as a bassist myself, I am accused of making songs a little bass heavy ;)

Like James George said, someone "in the biz" would be better for the voodoo-arcane art of mastering, but otherwise I can help.

[Sleepy Emp]

The Sloprano track is progressing nicely. I'll post the next WIP soon.

[Anorak]

ed]Well, Rexy said wait until 20, and I don't want to argue about it with someone who has had MUCH more experience than myself, unless she wants to step forward and green light the get-go herself. Other wise, yeah, I completely agree. The fact that we are moving along much faster than the other projects stuck here in requests can only mean that we will have a very positive reaction with anyone that doesn't normally check this section of the forums.

So, what does everyone else think?

And, one more thing. Like I said before, +10,000 page views doesn't happen on it's own. Do we have fans out there, or what? Please, step forward. Knowing that there are people looking forward to this is exciting!

Sorry, I must have missed that post. And I, too, am relatively new at this, but here's my two cents:

One of the reasons for having a General Discussion thread is to attract remixers who don't browse the Request forum. My only concern would be how many people don't know about this, and would be interested. There are, if I remember correctly, twenty-six tracks on the project, and starting a new thread inviting mixers with only six positions open seems like a strange idea to me. Of course, if there is a history of projects not getting many mixers in G. D., then Rexy's point is more than valid. Like I said, I don't claim to be an expert in these matters. I just write the music :)

On a completely unrelated sidenote: thank you for your feedback James (and Pi)! Mucho appreciated. I'm gonna try some filter tricks on the samples to warm them up.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, I see your point contradicting itself. If General Discussion could only drag in 6 people, why would we even want to bother, besides spreading the news.

And personally, I think WIPs would be more likely to attract more eopple. Thats where all the artists are.

[Anorak]

Hmm. That's a good point.

After a week, doesn't the thread just get moved from Gen. to the WIPs forum? So we'd just end up there anyway.

Eh, so much for guesswork. It's your call in the end.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, thats what I mean. Not counting attention, it so far doesn't sound like general wont do much for us besides advance us to WIPs. That is, unless there is proof that it does anything to besides hype the project.

[Anorak]

Correct me if I'm way out in left field here, but are you implying you want to skip General altogether and go straight to WIPs? There's a large chance I'm misinterpreting here...

Maybe you should just PM Darkesword. He is site projects coordinator, and probably has the best advice out of anyone on what to do in this situation. He can probably answer your questions a lot better than me, anyway. :?

[avaris]

It can't hurt being in general for a week. There is a lot more activity in general than in the WIP forums, so I think it'd be best to to at least spend some time in both so we can reach a wider audience.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

No, absolutely not. General is completely necessary to the process. I almost never check WIPs myself, simply because I'd rather listen to the finished thing (Of course, thats all going to change soon enough anyway...). I said I was going to wait for 20, but going now cant hurt, I suppose. I will go contact DarkeSword for approval right now.

But I have to say, back when I was uber-n00bness, maybe two ro three days after I first got an account, and new NOTHING about the inner workings of OCR, I did attempt to contact DS about a Majora's Mask project in response to the fact that there was none on the site. I did get a response, but very short and to the point, and not rude, exactly, but made me feel rather uncomfortable about ever contacting him again. I have to say, I feel very nervous. Odds are, he's completely forgotten about it, and bringing it up at all is just screwing myself over. I feel embarrassed about the whole thing, and I really hope this goes well.

Not saying there shouldn't be a Zelda project, but with the albums they have for those games, for the most part, it isn't necessary. (At any rate, the happy mask man reserves some respect...)

So, here I go, to contact DarkeSword...

[C T snotkins]

Just one more question regarding the Sloprano WIP.
How long is it? just wondering since the first one was unbelivebly awesome,yet only two minutes...

[Sleepy Emp]

Just one more question regarding the Sloprano WIP.
How long is it? just wondering since the first one was unbelivebly awesome,yet only two minutes...

The final version will be up to 4 minutes long, I presume. I'm still working on it, so this is not for certain. As for the WIP, it might be very close to the final version.

[C T snotkins]

SWEETNESS!

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, just judging from the quality of the WIP you posted before, I'm actually not surprised. Of course, never say it couldnt get better. EVER. It can always be made better. You just aren't looking (and listening) hard enough.

Still waiting on DarkeSword. What time zone is he in? Graaagh... I can't wait!

[Rexy]

I think he's on the East Coast.
But the reason why I said wait until 20 tracks are taken is because of the project rule of having 75% of your remixes allocated to musicians before you consider making the move to GD. I know that it sounds problematic to get through, but this is what promotion is for; go on and bug people around the forums about it ;)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Actually, he's only one state away from me...

But, the requirements for hitting general discussion is 2/3, and we have 2.07/3, or whatever my math was. Why would we want to wait any longer?

[Rexy]

...actually you're right 8O When waiting to appeal for Children of Erdrick to reach General Discussion, the initial decision was 75% of tracks to be filled in, not 66% as was revised soon after. I'm sorry if I was a little slow.

Anyway, I'm not sure if it is 2.07; 17 spots taken divided by 26 available places = 0.65 to two decimal places; multiplied by 3, you would get 1.96/3, so we're not quite 2/3s of the way yet, but I'm sure that Darkesword won't mind as long as you know where to look to get that last push if he thinks it's still not quite ready.

[pu_freak]

Are you still looking/open for new remixers? If so, I'd like to participate in this project. It'll probably be Sigma or M. Bison. If not, never mind I asked :P

[Pi_R_[]ed]

GO GO GO
YES!!!

I'm so excited, and it seems I'm not the only one..., but that was it. Just GO GO GO. Weird.l

And Pu_freak, why doesnt anyone get, that if there are open spots, of course we'll be taking people on. SO, I listened to your WIPs, go ahead and pick a track.

Rexy, I was so sure I had the math right... are you couting a mixers for Lavos and Magus? I made that mistake once our twice...

CHECK GEN DISC, NOW!!1!!one!!1

[Pi_R_[]ed]

OK, you heard Liontamer. So, heres the deal.

Anyone who signs on, will have 55 days to provide a WIP. mlo, you listening? Thats your job, as "unofficial schedule-planner-coordinator-thing-person". If a boss is already taken, but you want it, that means either collaborating with that mixer, or duking it out. Time to throw down, thats what this project is about, right? Huge battles. Although... I would hate to lose anyone we already have on. So try to avoid that. I'm sure something can always be worked out.

We have been discussing it, and, yes, as long as I have the time, I do plan on working on a Vol. II afterwards ("Haywire Harmonics" [Thanks to Chickenwarlord]). So, don't see your favorite boss listed? well, when the time comes, come check us back out. Of course, you should be checking us out periodically anyway. 'Cause we rock like that.

What else, what else... not much, really. Almost everything necessary to the project is explained in the first post.

[Hetcenus]

26 pages... Wow!!!

Anyway, I hope there are still free spots by the time I get some free time... For now...

GO GO GO!! :)

[Anorak]

Dang, I can't even score "official schedule-planner-coordinator-thing-person" !? :lol:...I'm a thing!

But seriously, if you are already mixing on this project there is a calendar set up on our forums that is similar to the list on the first page, but shows your WIP due dates. This is particularly important if you've recently signed on, because the November 19th deadline does not apply to you. So there is no need to rush your tracks!

That's all I have.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Fine, fine. "Official Planner/Organizer/PDA/Cell phone". Still a "thing", but at least it's official now...

[Rexy]

Oyeah, I forgot about the whole Magus thing. That actually makes *exactly* 2/3 of the remixers.
Nonetheless, I'm glad to see it arriving in GenDisc. Surely we'll see some good personnel come into all this too.

And now, back to work :P

[Spunodi]

Yay! It's in GenDisc!

I'm already signed up and have been eerily quiet since - the reason for that is I'm in Bangkok right now and enjoying the lunacy.

I get back to the motherland on 7th November and will provide a WIP (It's on my hard drive already) plus I will provide a revised WIP in time for the deadline.

I got the PM, thanks, and will become more active on my return (just quickly checking the site to see if Project Chaos has made it yet - obviously not.)

ALERT TO MODS - IF YOU FANCY REMOVING THE FOLLOWING CHEEKY PLUG THEN PLEASE DO SO
If you do fancy checking out what sort of level I'm currently at with my mixes, ReMix thaSauce posted 'Submerged' by me last week yet no-one's reviewed it ('cos of dance discrimination, I assume :( )

Anyway, good to see progress has been made and I look forward to working on this project more fervently in November.

[pu_freak]

ed]And Pu_freak, why doesnt anyone get, that if there are open spots, of course we'll be taking people on. SO, I listened to your WIPs, go ahead and pick a track.

Alright, I'll take the M. Bison theme then! If I got time to spare, I'd like to take a shot at Sigma as well or maybe a collab... But first: The Bison theme.

And congrats on reaching the Gen forum

[klm09]

I might be interested in doing a mix of either Dark King from Mystiq Quest, Wily/Sigma from Mega Man or Mother Brain from Super Metroid. However, I'd like to start working on a mix when I get my new comp (which should be tomorrow, but then I should have got it on Friday..). So don't put me down for anything yet, I'll hit you with a WIP to let you know whether I want in, perhaps in the next week or two. Mind you, I have 2 other projects I'm currently part of, and those will take precedence until I'm done with my mixes for those.

I'll let you know.

[leepmeister]

Hey PI...could we add a column to the table in your first post that says what general style/genre each remixer is doing? That way new folks can help keep/add to the balance and we don't end up with too much of one style. Unless we like that sort of thing...
To get things started, mine is looking like rock with some orchestral backing (think No Leaf Clover by Metallica).

pu_freak: I may be interested in a Wily/Sigma collab if no one picks it up in a few weeks.

[pu_freak]

pu_freak: I may be interested in a Wily/Sigma collab if no one picks it up in a few weeks.

Alright, now I'll just hope nobody picks it up then :P.

[Anorak]

Hey PI...could we add a column to the table in your first post that says what general style/genre each remixer is doing? That way new folks can help keep/add to the balance and we don't end up with too much of one style. Unless we like that sort of thing...

That sounds like a good idea. As official project PDA, I volenteer to set this up. PM me or post your mix style and I'll list 'em.

[Jimmy Jazz]

I'd love to have a go at a remix for Battle with Starwolf (from Starfox) If no-one else is intrested.

I suppose my style would be somewhat Electronic. Perhaps Rave.

[avaris]

Uh I really don't have a style. I mean I have guitar, synths, rock percussion, orchestral elements!? GSRPO? haha, well it's high energy.

Our sig should be all the bosses beating up a lunch lady, or taking marios lunch haha.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Wow, I was away from any computer for a few hours, and I'm loving the responses.

I get back to the motherland on 7th November and will provide a WIP (It's on my hard drive already) plus I will provide a revised WIP in time for the deadline.

I got the PM, thanks, and will become more active on my return (just quickly checking the site to see if Project Chaos has made it yet - obviously not.)

Alright, nice to hear. Excited for the WIP, good luck on it.

Alright, I'll take the M. Bison theme then! If I got time to spare, I'd like to take a shot at Sigma as well or maybe a collab... But first: The Bison theme.

Again, good. Looking forward to it.

Dark King from Mystiq Quest, Wily/Sigma from Mega Man or Mother Brain from Super Metroid... ...I'll hit you with a WIP to let you know whether I want in, perhaps in the next week or two.

OK, since you arent sure yet, I guess I can use the WIPs quality to determine if you're in or out.

could we add a column to the table in your first post that says what general style/genre each remixer is doing? That way new folks can help keep/add to the balance and we don't end up with too much of one style. Unless we like that sort of thing...
To get things started, mine is looking like rock with some orchestral backing (think No Leaf Clover by Metallica).

Good idea. No Leaf Clover, you say? Get me a WIP. Now.

That sounds like a good idea. As official project PDA, I volenteer to set this up. PM me or post your mix style and I'll list 'em.

Great. As my personal digital assistant, I expect only the best from you.

I'd love to have a go at a remix for Battle with Starwolf (from Starfox) If no-one else is intrested.

Sadly... Andross's theme MUST be dominant. While, yes, I agree that Starwolf's theme kicks total ass, the project does revolve around FINAL bosses (I guess TGMP is an exception). So, if you do this, the most of Starwolf's theme can be is 49% of the whole thing.

Our sig should be all the bosses beating up a lunch lady, or taking marios lunch haha.

Well, for the back of the album, I did want Mario with X's in his eyes, roasting on a spit over an open flame. And for the Sig, I was thinking a classic cartoon chase scene, with baddies on the left, chasing good guys on the right. The album art, check our other forums for the idea. We still need new character designs!


Now, I don't know how worthwhile it will be to ask everybody for an audition piece. So, all tracks are open for multiple mixers, serving multiple purposes, including possibly finding better mixers. The final chosen track will be decided on by the public, or maybe just me. We'll see.

And to everybody who gave their "Good Job"s and "Good Luck"s, thanks! Much appreciated. I'll go spend the next half hour editing the main post, if you need me.

[C T snotkins]

I had some idea,awhile ago about the artwork for K.rool.
What if K.rool was either...

A) Dressed like Ozzy Ozbourne biteing the head off a Zinger

B)Dressed like a pimp

C)Dreesed like some sort of gangsta rapper,with Krushas in the back dressed as bodygaurds.

I dunno. If I come up with any more ideas I will let you know. :twisted:

[Anorak]

The list is now up at the forum, under News/Announcements. Avaris, I just listed you as "Orc/Tech/Rock", but I can change it if you want. Anyway, keep the info coming so I can keep it updated.

I actually tried to put together a sig a day or two ago. I had trouble finding pictures of a lot of the bosses though, and there was an overabundance of...strange... fanart for many. (Never google image search Bowser. I cannot stress this enough).

I'm sorta curious. One of the only tracks that no one has said anything about is Eve, from Parasite Eve. You think I could take a stab at it? I just listened to it and have some neat ideas I'd like to try. If someone else wants to do it that's cool though.

[Rexy]

It's too early for me to figure out a style on mine yet, but once I'm done with the main bulk I would love to hook this up with a guitarist in the scene. That doesn't mean it'll be pure rock; it's just to give it that little bit more of an edge, if you know what I mean.

Spunodi, I doubt that anti-groove bias would be a thing to worry about at ThaSauce. I think you picked a pretty obscure Sonic game (at least in my point of view; never touched a Sega CD in my life) so that could mean why there weren't quite so many responses and whatnot.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Funny, I almost forgot you had signed up for anything, and I was thinking, "Whats that guy doin' around here anyway?". How about you give it until our move into WIPs, and, after that, you can have it if no one else has it yet.

I was thinking, maybe, to add 5-10 new bosses, seeing the immediate reaction to our presence. Maybe, but Ill think about it. If some well-known, high-quality mixers step forward, maybe, just maybe, I'll throw in a few more.

I was also thinking, whats the deal with FLAC files in the torrents? It seems they do nothing bu make the torrent 4 times bigger. Am I missing something, or does one part of the world not use mp3s, or what?

[C T snotkins]

If you do add more bosses,gruntilda HAS to be one of them! Seriously, BK3's comeing out for cryin' out loud!

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, if I remember, she did rank high among the losers that didn't make it. We'll see, it just all depends on

A.If we get more mixers making requests
B.If she is one of the ones that is ranked high (If step A pulls through at all)

I think... this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_bosses) might help a bit.

[andyjayne]

As for the style of my mix.
combination between various sub-genres of metal - technical / black / death.

[klm09]

It's too early for me to figure out a style on mine yet, but once I'm done with the main bulk I would love to hook this up with a guitarist in the scene.

Depending on what kind of parts you'd want or need, I could maybe do it. Maybe. :P

[Foxhull]

im not on for two days and the tracklist is almost full? SWEETNESS.

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]
I'd love to have a go at a remix for Battle with Starwolf (from Starfox) If no-one else is intrested.

Sadly... Andross's theme MUST be dominant. While, yes, I agree that Starwolf's theme kicks total ass, the project does revolve around FINAL bosses (I guess TGMP is an exception). So, if you do this, the most of Starwolf's theme can be is 49% of the whole thing.


Dang.... that changes everything. Its a shame, because I had just started work on Starwolf's theme. Not to worry, though, I suppose I can use the Starwolf theme somewhere in the mix, and If I don't, I'll just submit to the site in the style of a normal remix.

Well, I better get working on Andross's theme.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

OK, finally got around to adding up everybody that said they could provide live instruments. Our particular situation is quite lucky. Many people around can play concert band instruments (Good for orchestrated pieces), and plenty can play guitar (Do I really have to explain this one?).

Here you go:

Guitar - leepmeister
Base - leepmeister
Tenor Sax - mlo
Clarinet - mlo
Keyboard - mlo, pu_freak

Accordion - Pi_r_[]ed, mlo

Violin - James George
Viloa - James George
Cello -
Bass - James George


Things are pretty wild up there right now, but if anyone else wants to step forward, even if they aren't making a track themselves, feel free to. Much appreciated.

[pu_freak]

I play the piano if anyone's interested

[Pi_R_[]ed]

DAMN! Why didn't I think of that? Each mixer's sig can be based off of who he or she is mixing! Jeez..., oh well. gts, our artists, should have some work done soon. Sketches, and the like. So, think about it. Leepmeister with Bowser playing drums as his sig, or the-almighty-tallest with starwolf as a street gang. When gts (http://gts.deviantart.com/), our artist, gets done with some sketches, Ill let you know. But I haven't spoken with him for about a month, so he could be anywhere from "Still sharpening my pencil" to "Just finished the coloring". Ill ask tonight.

[linkspast]

I am excited about this... It looks like it could be pretty sweet.

[pu_freak]

Posted a first WIP at the forums. CHeck it out and tell me what you think

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Interesting. I like the direction you're taking, it's different than the other WIPs so far. Its a little messy and needs work, but otherwise runs smooth. Of course, don't take it too harshly. Its a work-in-progress, or course it isn't going to be the best. Nice!

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]
Things are pretty wild up there right now, but if anyone else wants to step forward, even if they aren't making a track themselves, feel free to. Much appreciated.

I can play drums live if need be.

And as for the sig thing, It sounds sweet. My sig should have both Starwolf and Andross in it somewhere, though. I have decided to use sprinklings of the Starwolf theme in places, but keep the Andross theme as the main theme. It will probably start with a little bit of starwolf, then go into a breakdown section, then play the andross stuff, then have a bit more Starwolf in the bridge and at the end. Seriously, Its going to rule.

[pu_freak]

ed]
Things are pretty wild up there right now, but if anyone else wants to step forward, even if they aren't making a track themselves, feel free to. Much appreciated.

I can play drums live if need be.

And as for the sig thing, It sounds sweet. My sig should have both Starwolf and Andross in it somewhere, though. I have decided to use sprinklings of the Starwolf theme in places, but keep the Andross theme as the main theme. It will probably start with a little bit of starwolf, then go into a breakdown section, then play the andross stuff, then have a bit more Starwolf in the bridge and at the end. Seriously, Its going to rule.

Ooooh... drums. That may come in pretty handy. Are you good at orchestral/march kinda stuff? Perhaps I'll call you in for some help somehwere along the line.

And of course it's going to rule... this whole project is! :P

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]
Things are pretty wild up there right now, but if anyone else wants to step forward, even if they aren't making a track themselves, feel free to. Much appreciated.

I can play drums live if need be.

And as for the sig thing, It sounds sweet. My sig should have both Starwolf and Andross in it somewhere, though. I have decided to use sprinklings of the Starwolf theme in places, but keep the Andross theme as the main theme. It will probably start with a little bit of starwolf, then go into a breakdown section, then play the andross stuff, then have a bit more Starwolf in the bridge and at the end. Seriously, Its going to rule.

Ooooh... drums. That may come in pretty handy. Are you good at orchestral/march kinda stuff? Perhaps I'll call you in for some help somehwere along the line.

And of course it's going to rule... this whole project is! :P

I can. i can do anything, I suppose. Funk, Metal, Orchestral, Marching Band, Waltzes, Hip-Hop, Pop, Indie, Christrian Rap .... anything.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Christian Rap? Oh, god no... (Get it? Christian Rap? God? HAHaha...).

Anyway, does anyone want to a few questions?

- Why do the Torrents have FLAC files? What are they for?

- Can anyone provide their services to master tracks, with better quality samples, and mad expensive programs no all of us have? (Don't answer if you already did)

- How many judges need to OK a track for it to get through? 'Cause I was thinking, what if, instead of deciding ourselves, or leaving it up to the regualr judge amount, what if ALL judges needed to OK a track? Because I know that Summoning of Spirits is using the judges to decide what gets on (Thanks, pu). But, what if, instead of the norm, we used ALL of the judges, and needed a full, (if not missing one) to give a "yes"? It would ensure track quality, and make sure anything we might miss gets caught.

[andyjayne]

ed]Because I know that Summoning of Spirits is using the judges to decide what gets on.
On OCR (as with any other submitted remix), not the project. The remixers have to submit their tracks to the site separately.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Hey! Dont look at me, I only know what I pu said. Not my fault! Not my fault!

Seriously, what'ja think?

[Foxhull]

i can play flute
what? don't give me those weird looks :wink:

[avaris]

i can play flute
what? don't give me those weird looks :wink:
:roll: :? :lol:

Hey Anchorman Ron Burgandy played flute too, and he was one cool cat.

Aight guys I'm gonna get an update on my mix pretty soon. Nothing major, but i've been listening to evanescence and godsmack recently bc I've been doin a massive amount of programming and am really pissed off, so I thought now would be a good time to work on my Lufia track.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Great, we wanted evil music, not angry music. No, thats fine. I think it's great to see this project considered an escape, or recreation, rather than actual work. Keep up the good work.

[avaris]

Haha, well i got an update. Only one change in the arrangement :D whahahaha

But I did a crap load of work on mastering, def a big improvement on that area from my old stuff. Oh yeah the guitar is friggin awesome now that i got off my lazy ass and used guitar rig 2 for some added ooomph.

I'll get it up in the forums within the hour.

[leepmeister]

I posted a rough Bowser WIP on the, uh ...other... forum .

I'll probably take a week break or so from this as I remember that working on this has kept me away from various school responsibilities :? Plus it will give me a fresh ear when i pick it up again.

In the mean time, comments appreciated.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Great do far. At 1:00, I think the original SMB's castle theme might make a good bass, and at 2:50, it sounds a little like the endless staircase, and maybe something can be fitted in?

Otherwise, great work. If thats the "skeleton" of the track so far, I can't wait for the rest (as usual...). I feel like the guitar can get way sicker, but I guess if (and when) you get a live guitarist, some improve can be done.

[pu_freak]

ed]Hey! Dont look at me, I only know what I pu said. Not my fault! Not my fault!

*sigh*... the Summoning of Spirits project mixers are sending their tracks to the judges to be well... judged of course. I know that they're not doing it as a whole project (but most of the songs are being judged first).

That's why the idea was to make that a rule at this project. Every single mix being judged by the panel first beofre they're accepted into the project. I, for one, think it's a good idea. It would surely boost the quality of the project. Don't know what you guys think, though...

EDIT: The Live instruments... you seem to see piano and keyboard as one. They do in fact have a slightly different way of playing... Plus it's not a keyboard I have. But I'm just complaining about the smallest thing I could find I guess :wink:

EDIT2: FLAC files provide way better quality than mp3, but it's also a lot larger. Hence the coiche you offer: Small files with lower quality, or bigger files with higher quality

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Hey, sorry about that. I'll go fix...

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]

Anyway, does anyone want to a few questions?

- Why do the Torrents have FLAC files? What are they for?

Theyre a high-bitrate, seemingly high-quality type of music file. You need to get a codec to play them. I think theyre a waste of space, personally, one FLAC song can end up taking up more space than a whole album thats in MP3. You should state in the rules of this project that all entires must be in MP3, including WIPs

- Can anyone provide their services to master tracks, with better quality samples, and mad expensive programs not all of us have? (Don't answer if you already did)
I could.

- How many judges need to OK a track for it to get through? 'Cause I was thinking, what if, instead of deciding ourselves, or leaving it up to the regualr judge amount, what if ALL judges needed to OK a track? Because I know that Summoning of Spirits is using the judges to decide what gets on (Thanks, pu). But, what if, instead of the norm, we used ALL of the judges, and needed a full, (if not missing one) to give a "yes"? It would ensure track quality, and make sure anything we might miss gets caught.
I think it needs to get 3 more yes's than it does no's. I'm not particularly sure about the system either.
Despite not entirely knowing what the current system is, I'm happy with it. I know you wan't to ensure quality, but if we have to wait for every single judge to give us an YES, well, that could take ages. Judges might not have access to thier computer for weeks. We have to remember: Judges are people to. So in short I'm happy with the current system.[/quote]

[pu_freak]

I think it needs to get 3 more yes's than it does no's. I'm not particularly sure about the system either.

You have to get either 4x YES or 3x NO. If it's real close (3x NO, 3x YES or something like that) they'll wait for more judges to give their opinions.

[Jimmy Jazz]

I think it needs to get 3 more yes's than it does no's. I'm not particularly sure about the system either.

You have to get either 4x YES or 3x NO. If it's real close (3x NO, 3x YES or something like that) they'll wait for more judges to give their opinions.

Oh. Cool. Now I undesrtand. Yeah, I'm happy with that system.

Oh yeah, and just in case anyone can give me a few pointers, I'm kinda having a little trouble with andross's theme. Its just the music isn't exactly.... well, music. Don't get me wrong, I know the percussion pretty well and can do a lot of things with it, Its just the Synths are a bit mental... meh, I'm sure I'll figure something out.

[Anorak]

What game are you using for reference? The N64? Hmm...yeah, the composers are doing this dramatic thing in three, trying to emulate a film score. A bit awkward to remix. Do you have MSN or something? I could help you out while you mix if you want.

Also, Andross' brain has a seperate theme, which might be easier to do. He's in the SNES version too, I think. (never beat that one...)

[Jimmy Jazz]

What game are you using for reference? The N64? Hmm...yeah, the composers are doing this dramatic thing in three, trying to emulate a film score. A bit awkward to remix. Do you have MSN or something? I could help you out while you mix if you want.

Also, Andross' brain has a seperate theme, which might be easier to do. He's in the SNES version too, I think. (never beat that one...)

I don't have MSN just now, but Ive been meaning to get an acount for some time now. Just wait 'till tommorow, I'll probably have an account by then.

I know he's in the SNES version, but sadly he didn't have his own theme.

And I know his brain has a different theme, but I don't know what it is. I'm actually currently writing the music by ear. I'm just lucky that there are only 3 instruments - and 2 of them are drums, which I would completely revamp anyway. The other instrument Is just a synth with some crazy effects added on, and the actual notes are quite simple. Yeah, I should be OK.

But I will probably need tips for the remixing part, so I'll set up an acount for tommorow so I can ask you for advice.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

By the way, I have to say, cause I've been asked quite a bit recently, I made an MSN name thingy... "Frank.14159". So, go ahead and ask any questions... LIVE!! The torrent, when the project is done, will be two torrents. A FLAC torrent, and an MP3 torrent. I HATE when the project torrents take hours to load, just because some people need a FLAC. I just dont get it. The judges? Ill think about it. I just want to ensure quality, like all major food corporations (Crescendo to Cooking 4 ever!).

About the Andross theme, just a personal request from me, I've always been a big fan of 64's "Sector X" theme (who isn't?), and hearing a bit of a cameo would make my day, seriously.

Now, pu made a good point, in a PM to me. I AM NOT ENFORCING OCREMIX'S BITRATE OR SIZE RESTRICTIONS. As long as you dont make a three hour mix, it's fine. Well, even a 10 minute mix is pushing it, unless you have a kick-ass 5 minute guitar solo in there. So that leaves it open for as much detail as you want, as long as you dont clutter the thing.

Another thing in that PM, the idea of a mega-mix at the end of the album, or possibly as a bonus track off of the website. I say, let's wait for everything else to fall into place before we worry about that.

[Anorak]

Neato. I added yo-

Whoa, you're on now...creepy.

How would a mega mix even work? Just editing together sections of each others tracks or writing some new?

Eh, whatever.

[avaris]

Haha mega mix. mlo think of those crazy 15-20 min tracks DJ's put together of a bunch of popular songs. Well apply that same theory to all of our remixes. Someone could use ableton live to do it. Thats all I'm gonna say about it.

Oh yeah got another update for you guys, please go check it out. I need some comments on it, wats good wats bad...anything.

Oh yeah as far as having the judges judge each song. It's a good idea in theory. In reality it means thing are gonna take awhile. Look at this way, first submission 1.5-3 months for feedback. If it's rejected thats about .5-1 a month to fix it. Then that's antoher 1.5-3 months to get feedback again. So we're are lookin at 3.5 - 7 months for that by itself. And that on to whenever the very last mix is finished.

It's a great idea but it'll be time consuming. I'm down for it if we're gonna do it.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, it reduces a huge problem I was thinking of. The time spent to judge a few mixes might give the other mixers time to finish, as well as completing the website, art, etc...

Of course, it would be rave/techno. No orchestra, no Rock. The whole thing would be underground lasers, smoke machines, and moshing. That would be awesome. Besides a total departure from our basic design, but leads into volume II, "Haywire Harmonics", which I was thinking of basing in techno and rave, rather than orch/rock. Still dark themes, though.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

You know, my fellow project-mates, I all of you, and have a personal request, that just came up at the perfect time. I recently found a box, while rummaging through my room, that my uncle gave me 2 years ago. It's a music program, "Magix Music Maker". Now, if it's a piece of crap waste of time, tell me. But otherwise, I would appreciate the opportunity to help, besides the fact that it is my project, and it feels weird not doing anything to help. It's the 2004 deluxe version, and has three extra discs with audio samples for "techno/trance", "hiphop", "nu rock", "disco house", "strictly 80's", "easy listening/nu jazz", "oneshot samples", "electro lounge", "film music & classic", and "world music".

I hate to be pushy, or rude, but I really would like to be a part of my own project, and something tells me taking advantage of a whole program would be more beneficial than downloading the trial version of FL, or something... that, and now I feel guilty about not using this program for a whole two years.

So, if its not worth it, just forget I brought it up, and maybe I can go see if my school has any proffesional tools, or maybe I can go buy some good software. But, I've only tried mixing once before, with the FL demo, and, Ill tell you, I really crapped that one up... but I do want to help, and not just supervise. I feel... lazy. You understand? I want to leave my mark, not just have people say "Who directed that one, now?", but rather, help out, and maybe go on to later mixing.

In short, can anyone tutor me in mixing, for my own project? Someone who knows this program, prefferably, but I'd be willing to spend a small amount of money on another program... the holidays are right around the corner, and everything else I want is already saved up for. Get it?

[pu_freak]

I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you. Learning how to make good mixes isn't a matter of weeks (or months). We could teach you how to mix, of course, but I don't think you'll be up to OCR quality when we're about to end this project (I realise that's still a year - or more - away).
That and the fact that Magix Music Maker isn't exactly mixing program #1. But I must admit I gave up that program real quick.

On the note of the judges delay being an advantage because other mixers would have time to finish their songs... the other mixers also have to let the panel judge their mixes.

And what exactly did you mean by it all being techno?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you. Learning how to make good mixes isn't a matter of weeks (or months). We could teach you how to mix, of course, but I don't think you'll be up to OCR quality when we're about to end this project (I realise that's still a year - or more - away).

Well, then, we have the time, don't we? Besides, nothing is ever not worth trying.

That and the fact that Magix Music Maker isn't exactly mixing program #1. But I must admit I gave up that program real quick.

Just running through it for a few minutes, I can tell it isn't the best. But like I said, I wanted to work with what I have. Then again, I also said I would be willing to go out and buy a new program, if need be.

On the note of the judges delay being an advantage because other mixers would have time to finish their songs... the other mixers also have to let the panel judge their mixes.

And what exactly did you mean by it all being techno?

Well, if mixer "A" is done, and mixer "B" isn't, the judging panel delay gives "B" a period to catch up, without worrying about dragging behind the whole project. And, doesn't a rave describe itself?

Think of it as an intro into the volume 2, which I plan to do around that genre, more industrial techno, rave, and electronica. A 15-20 minute long mix, but full-on quality, so that only a video game fan would be able to tell the source music. Not everyone can recognize a song from Mario 64, but everyone knows SMB, see?

[KyleJCrb]

ed]Hey! Dont look at me, I only know what I pu said. Not my fault! Not my fault!

*sigh*... the Summoning of Spirits project mixers are sending their tracks to the judges to be well... judged of course. I know that they're not doing it as a whole project (but most of the songs are being judged first).

That's why the idea was to make that a rule at this project. Every single mix being judged by the panel first beofre they're accepted into the project. I, for one, think it's a good idea. It would surely boost the quality of the project. Don't know what you guys think, though...

I'm not quite sure DJP and/or the judge's panel would allow that type of flood. If everyone on the project just decided to submit their song on their own, that's one thing, but using the judges as a measure of quality for an entire project? There's a reason why each project has its own directors, and part of their job is to create and adhere to their own quality control standards within their project. It's not the job of the judges or DJP to do this for you.

And to clarify: SoS is only allowing whoever wants to submit their tracks to OCR to do so before release; we're not using the judges as a gauge of what is allowed on the project (as you said, pu, but it seems that Pi misinterpreted it the other way later), since some of the remixers involved have no intention of submitting their works, either for technical or personal reasons.

[pu_freak]

ed]Well, if mixer "A" is done, and mixer "B" isn't, the judging panel delay gives "B" a period to catch up, without worrying about dragging behind the whole project.

That's true, but then when "B" is finally finished, he also lets his own mix being judged by the panel. That delay will delay the whole project since the rest is already done. If it then turns out his mix is beneath the needed quality there's even more delay. That IS a problem that needs to be considered.

I'm willing to wait if it boosts the quality. But we should definently think about it. And perhaps you could PM Darkesword if it's even possible to let all of the mixes being judged. Kyle has a point if he says the flooding may be too much for the judges.

EDIT: Well at least you got the will to mix :wink:. Well I don't know much about Magix, I know Fruity Loops is used very much, but it is a bittle simple (easy to learn, but you'll be able to tell it's a FL mix) and Reason has way more possibilities. I just think you need to read a 1,325,634 page tutorial to fully understand it. I only work my my electronic piano to mix, so hopefully someone can explain things to you.
And I didn't see the techno/rave thing was about the final megamix, hence the question. Sorry for the stupid question :P

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, the wait is worth it. I'll repeat myself, that even if "B" does hold up the line, that allows time for art, website design, and a whole mess of other stuff.

About Fruity Loops, I just downloaded it, and am going to try to get permission to run it on my school computers, cause my home one sucks. I guess we can always see where things go from there.

[Anorak]

Wow, I've never even heard of Magix before... :?

You definately have a better chance of getting some help with mixing if you're using FL, but a downloaded version doesn't let you save, if I remember correctly. For what it's worth, the program I'm using, Buzzmachines, is freeware. It drives many mixers mad though in that you have to program with numbers and letters instead of clicking little tabs. But if you know how to use it, it's pretty powerful and non-linear. I could help out in that case, but I don't recall a thing about using Fruity Loops. Somebody else would have to help with that.

I'm not sure if you could learn to mix with any program in time for this project, but it's possible, since everyone learns at their own speed. But remember that the standards for this site are very high- I very often think my own CtC mix will not be up to snuff. Still, remixing is certainly a skill worth aquiring and you should definately give it a shot if you have the will and the means.

[avaris]

If you download the demo version of fruity loops, you can export your songs in midi format I believe. So what you can do is finish all of your arrangeing by exporting and importing your midi file whenever you wanna work it, and then once ur finished hand it over to someone to put some good instruments over it and the mastering and production.

Also when u import the midi to work on you can just put some basic instruments over it just to see how everything sounds together, and then when ur done working on it for the day just replace the instruments with midi and then export it as a midi file.

If you just concentrate on the mixing, composing, and arrangeing ur goin to be better off and have a much better chance to succeed.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Thanks for the support, everybody. I honestly don't think I'd be up to par on a mix, either, but after a while, it's not like I couldn't be a prominant mixer on OCR itself :wink: (I hate emoticons... grr...). Oh, well. Like mlo said, I'm not sure if you could learn to mix with any program in time for this project, but it's possible, since everyone learns at their own speed.

And, what, you think after me carrying on about this project kicking ass, I'd let my own crap filter through?

[Jimmy Jazz]

Pi_R_[]ed

Ok, I like the idea of the mixing Sector X in, but I can't really promise anything. Andross's theme has to be dominant for at least 50% of the mix, right? Well, I really wan't to put some starwolf in as well - I really wan't to start it with a certian bit from Starwolf theme, And I really wan't to end it with another bit. However, as Andross's theme doesn't exactly show a huge amount of variety, I could probably use a bit Sector X's theme in certian places just to give it a bit more.... variety, I suppose. Now I'm promising Anything, but I quite like this idea....

And As for the submitting the mix, I really think you should give it a try. There is still a lot of bosses that need themes remixed, And we should give you a chance, see what youre capable of. If you post a WIP, we can really give you a few pointers. I'm a bit of a remix n00b as well, remember :p

mlo

I still haven't got an MSN acount. I'm setting it up.... now!

EDIT - And Now Ive Got One! its just the-almighty-tallest@hotmail.co.uk

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Well, it has to be the majority. I think, if you are really worried about it, you can do 40% Andross, 35% Starwolf, 25% Sector X.

Well, my laptop just died. Sad, really, as my uncle gave it to me, and now I don't know what to do. That was where I did all my work, and now I have to stay anchored to my home computer. Besides that, my laptop ran on a wireless connection, so after three months of high-speed bliss, I'm back down to dial-up. Damn.

Besides that, my laptop was unusually better than my home computer. So besides a huge download time, you may have to wait for any kind of mixing prowess on my behalf. To be honest, I was more interested in regualer mixing, rather than for the project. Anyone who checked the ReQuests forum recently (I still like to go back, it feels like home, thats where it all started, isn't it? Well, no, that was in the site guidelines page...) will know I like the Harvest Moon series, I was thinking of trying the Winter theme from 64.

Either way, mlo, I'm checking out Buzzmachines, I just hope the peice of junk I'm working on now can handle it.

[Anorak]

It should. It starts with zero CPU usage, and ups that as you add synths/effects/etc.. So you can customize the program around your computer. I can hook you up with some tutorials and extra help if you decide to keep it. Just give me a ring.

almighty-tallest, I added you to MSN. Whenever you're free and want to go over that track, let me know. I'll try to keep it open whenever I'm at my computer.

Oh, and...new WIP at the forum.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I take back what I said, I fixed my laptop. Very, very relieved. Alright, then. Back to work.

Maybe now I can really try that program out. I'lll let you know if anything happens.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I approve of widening the definition of remix projects with this. Some sort of piano performance for the final Bowser fight in SM64 would be awesome. Just a suggestion for variety beyond the obvious villian choices, but I guess that's up to the remixers and all involved

Way, way, WAY back from the first page of this thread. Just thought, y'know, maybe something to think about.

I have to ask, is it just me, or does something seem... wrong? For some of the WIPs, it seems like you know where you want to go, but are having trouble accomplishing that task. I don't want to name names, so I won't mention which. But go listen to a few (not just applying to my mixers, but everybody that reads this), and tell me what you think. Know, it may just be me, and it may just be because they are WIPs.

Then again, I might just be completely paranoid...

[leepmeister]

Where are you going with that? I know I am still unsure of where I am going with my song, but that's to be expected after only a couple weeks. I'm still playing with adding, subtracting, and rearranging parts. I have had lots of ideas but it takes time to figure out where/how some of them will fit.

Give everyone time, remember the earliest official WIPs aren't due for 4 weeks...this early stuff is just bouncing ideas around and helping each other out 8)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Alright, I guess that can be expected from only WIPs. I was just expressing concern, some of them just sound a little slapped together, you know what I'm saying?

Maybe if someone who wasn't on the project ever bothered to comment, and we got a few different opinions, maybe we could know what we needed to fix, on a wider scale.

[leepmeister]

True, perhaps everyone should be seeking opinions of their tracks individually in the rest of the OC Remix forums. I bet the "outsiders" don't feel like digging through our thread.

I posted a new WIP. More fleshed out and transitioned, plus a few new elements you might appreciate. Still no updates to guitar or drums, but they will be coming. 8)

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Yes, I suppose it is time for an Official Announcement *Trumpet Fanfare*

All mixers with works in progress, please place a copy of your current version on the "wip: oc remixes" forum here at OCR. That does not mean stop updating at our other site, but it is to be done, to collect feedback from the community.

Also, a note to mixers on the project, that have not yet completed a WIP: "What'ja waitin' for? Get goin', ya lazy punks!". No, relax. I just want to remind everybody that procrastination is one of the worst habits possible. I realise I gave you a while, and some of you gave "no problems". Well, then, get moving!

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]

Also, a note to mixers on the project, that have not yet completed a WIP: "What'ja waitin' for? Get goin', ya lazy punks!". No, relax. I just want to remind everybody that procrastination is one of the worst habits possible. I realise I gave you a while, and some of you gave "no problems". Well, then, get moving!

No problem. I'm gonna do a lot of work with Sector X and Andross's theme today - I know exactly where I wan't to go with Starfox's theme, but these two really need some serious planning. With Andross's theme, its just the aranging - I'm not sure what instruments and samples I'm using yet, And with sector X its simply figuring out what bits to put where. Any particular parts of Sector X anyone want to hear in it?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Uhh... the good part?(The xylophone, mostly) And, thats Sector X from Starfox 64, not sector X from the SNES one, OK? I'm looking forward to it. I don't know what your planning, but I know that if it's got Starwolf, it's gonna kick ass. By the way, music from Venom would count towards Andross's theme.

And leepmeister, I CANT WAIT!! GET THE GUITAR IN ALREADY!!! While it's never a good idea to rush things, I really, really want to hear it, almost to tears. Its going to be amazing, I can tell. Every album has one or two tracks that really stand out, and I can tell, if things keep heading in the right direction for you, this is going to be one of them.

... Which is just more incentive for everyone else to work harder. Not that they aren't doing good, but, MAN, is it good so far. Work on the guitar, already!

By the way, if anyone needs a guitarist, they can contact me, I have someone lined up...

[leepmeister]

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately, I can't make Thanksgiving get here any faster, and until then my friend is 680 miles away. So, all in good time :wink:

Just for fun...here's an example of something he and I did a year ago:
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~adam-leeper/mp3/G_Strings/01-PutinMarchesOnOslo.mp3
It's also a good example of something where I took the time to program different beats and fills in the drum part.

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]Uhh... the good part?(The xylophone, mostly) And, thats Sector X from Starfox 64, not sector X from the SNES one, OK? I'm looking forward to it. I don't know what your planning, but I know that if it's got Starwolf, it's gonna kick ass. I kinda know what I'm doing. Ive found Ultamite Andross's theme, It seems a lot easier to get notes for than penultamite Andross's theme. I might use that instead, but I'm not sure. Anyone got any opinions on the subject?


By the way, music from Venom would count towards Andross's theme.
HAHAHAHAHA! Aha! ha! ahahahahahahah! hahaha! heh heh! no.

I'm currently trying my best not to end up writing a meledy for the whole bloody game, OK?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Just for fun...here's an example of something he and I did a year ago:
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~adam-leeper/mp3/G_Strings/01-PutinMarchesOnOslo.mp3
It's also a good example of something where I took the time to program different beats and fills in the drum part.

Why... why do you taunt me...?

ed]By the way, music from Venom would count towards Andross's theme.

HAHAHAHAHA! Aha! ha! ahahahahahahah! hahaha! heh heh! no.

I'm currently trying my best not to end up writing a meledy for the whole bloody game, OK?

Hey, I never said you HAD to use it, it just seemed like you were having a bit of trouble deciding where to go with it, and I was offering a bit of help.

[Anorak]

Well tallest, you could actually use Corneria's theme, as Andross' influence extends across the entire-

Kidding. http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/graemlins/fish.gif (oh my god stolen smiley)

Also, way to blow me off on MSN, Pi. Or something. I tried to talk to you and you just logged off. Twice in a row.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I swear, I was framed! No, I have a very spotty connection, so, I apologize about that. I hope you took no offense, and believe me, I would have no reason to do that on purpose. I can talk now, if my connection holds. Otherwise, Ill be unavailable for the next 3-5 hours. Ill go sign in right now...

EDIT: aaaand... you aren't on. In fact, no one is on. Whoop-dee-doo.

[pu_freak]

ed]All mixers with works in progress, please place a copy of your current version on the "wip: oc remixes" forum here at OCR. That does not mean stop updating at our other site, but it is to be done, to collect feedback from the community.


Ehh... isn't that a little early? I mean, we haven't even had our first WIP deadline. We're still trying things out. Perhaps later on it would be a nice idea (not sure if it boosts the image of the project though), but too early to post mine anyway.
Besides, it's not really a invitation to post new WIPs at our forum if we know we have to post them at OCR's WIP forum aswell

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]All mixers with works in progress, please place a copy of your current version on the "wip: oc remixes" forum here at OCR. That does not mean stop updating at our other site, but it is to be done, to collect feedback from the community.


Ehh... isn't that a little early? I mean, we haven't even had our first WIP deadline. We're still trying things out. Perhaps later on it would be a nice idea (not sure if it boosts the image of the project though), but too early to post mine anyway.
Besides, it's not really a invitation to post new WIPs at our forum if we know we have to post them at OCR's WIP forum aswell

I thought our WIP deadline was 19th November. You know, like how It says [WIPs by 11/19] in big letters in the title of this thread.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Yeah, I understand. But take leepmeister, for example. He can't do anything until he gets his guitarist at thanksgiving. So, till then, suggestions for improvement are the best anyone can do.

Now, Im not saying you have to put WIPs on that forum, at least until you get them in normally. If you dont have yours done yet, dont sweat it.

[pu_freak]

ed]All mixers with works in progress, please place a copy of your current version on the "wip: oc remixes" forum here at OCR. That does not mean stop updating at our other site, but it is to be done, to collect feedback from the community.


Ehh... isn't that a little early? I mean, we haven't even had our first WIP deadline. We're still trying things out. Perhaps later on it would be a nice idea (not sure if it boosts the image of the project though), but too early to post mine anyway.
Besides, it's not really a invitation to post new WIPs at our forum if we know we have to post them at OCR's WIP forum aswell

I thought our WIP deadline was 19th November. You know, like how It says [WIPs by 11/19] in big letters in the title of this thread.

I know that, I'm not, contrary to popular belief, blind. All I was trying saying is that we're not PAST the dealine yet. And when the time comes, I'll probably post my WIP there too. But it has to be in a further state than it is now.

Speaking of the WIP, I posted a new version at the forum

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Speaking of which, I'm thinking of sending out a second WIP notice. Some people, I haven't gotten anything yet, and 2 (Cerrax and Dewcandy) haven't even checked their inboxes yet. I get Dewcandy, considering someone with only 1 post isn't likely to make frequent appearences back at the forum,or possibly be reliable at all, but Cerrax, well, I've tried PM's and email. Nothings working.

And, talking about people who seem to make unnecessarily long, frustrating disappearances, has anyone heard from Kanjika? I think... If he doesn't show up soon, he's not only no longer co-coordinator, but off the project alltogether. I really don;t want to do this, because I really do expect to see good things from him.

*Sigh*..., oh well. I will send out a new WIP notice to those who haven't posted anything yet. Hopefully, kicking anyone off the project wont be necessary. On the other hand, it opens up the position for anyone who's a bit more reliable. And some of you might want to keep an ea out, you don't know if I might be taking on a new co-coordinator in the coming week.

[Sleepy Emp]

Here's the latest version:

Sloprano WIP (http://catslair.ucoz.ru/Sloprano.wma)

Almost done.

[Tensei]

hmm, this is just a question out of curiosity, but is Sephiroth's theme reserved for someone? I would have thought that that would be one of the first ones to be picked.
Also, Sephiroth has a plethora of themes, I'm assuming you mean One Winged Angel? Could it be mixed with other similar themes like the Jenova theme and the Bizarro sephiroth theme?
I have to think about it whether I'd pick one of the remaining tracks to mix, but I'd be more than happy to provide Rhythm and Lead guitar for anyone interested, so you can write me down for that, if you please :D


Edit: Ah screw it, I lied, put me on for sephiroth please, I'd be damned if I wasn't interested :D

[pu_freak]

ed]And, talking about people who seem to make unnecessarily long, frustrating disappearances, has anyone heard from Kanjika? I think... If he doesn't show up soon, he's not only no longer co-coordinator, but off the project alltogether. I really don;t want to do this, because I really do expect to see good things from him.

Never heard from him since I was on this project. But the project's not too old yet, so give him some more time, I say. After all, we're only human

[leepmeister]

After all, we're only human

Ha! Speak for yourself... :roll:








Kidding! :wink:

[Pi_R_[]ed]

hmm, this is just a question out of curiosity, but is Sephiroth's theme reserved for someone? I would have thought that that would be one of the first ones to be picked.
Also, Sephiroth has a plethora of themes, I'm assuming you mean One Winged Angel? Could it be mixed with other similar themes like the Jenova theme and the Bizarro sephiroth theme?
I have to think about it whether I'd pick one of the remaining tracks to mix, but I'd be more than happy to provide Rhythm and Lead guitar for anyone interested, so you can write me down for that, if you please :D

Edit: Ah screw it, I lied, put me on for sephiroth please, I'd be damned if I wasn't interested :D

Yeah, sure. If you're a guitarist, it can only mean good things. I mentioned this a few pages back, and a few pages before that, but more than one of Sephiroth's themes would be included, because of the amount of times Squeenix has redone it themselves. Jenova's theme and Bizzaro Seph's theme would both count.

One idea a friend of mine had an idea, to do the whole thing all Marilyn Manson -y, with crazy ass, demonic latin lyrics, that no one would be able to understand, in that gutteral, demonic voice. You know what I mean? If not, well, the choice is yours, not mine.

Sleepy Emp, that was amazing. Thats all I can really say. Downright incredible.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

I take that back. Sleepy Emp, it's still good, but it's lacking. So far, it is repetitive, and can be a bit boring. It has very interesting parts, but they are all done similarly. It needs variety, and bad.

As in-game boss music, it would fit very well, but as a track, it needs work.

Still good, though.

[Sleepy Emp]

Thanks for the feedback. Working on it.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Phew... I was worried I'd get yelled at. Oh, well. I guess negative feedback is better than no feedback. At least you know what to fix.

[Sleepy Emp]

Negative criticism is something like "Oh dear, my ears are bleeding, go kill yourself!" You've given me positive encouragement.

[Tensei]

ed]hmm, this is just a question out of curiosity, but is Sephiroth's theme reserved for someone? I would have thought that that would be one of the first ones to be picked.
Also, Sephiroth has a plethora of themes, I'm assuming you mean One Winged Angel? Could it be mixed with other similar themes like the Jenova theme and the Bizarro sephiroth theme?
I have to think about it whether I'd pick one of the remaining tracks to mix, but I'd be more than happy to provide Rhythm and Lead guitar for anyone interested, so you can write me down for that, if you please :D

Edit: Ah screw it, I lied, put me on for sephiroth please, I'd be damned if I wasn't interested :D

Yeah, sure. If you're a guitarist, it can only mean good things. I mentioned this a few pages back, and a few pages before that, but more than one of Sephiroth's themes would be included, because of the amount of times Squeenix has redone it themselves. Jenova's theme and Bizzaro Seph's theme would both count.

One idea a friend of mine had an idea, to do the whole thing all Marilyn Manson -y, with crazy ass, demonic latin lyrics, that no one would be able to understand, in that gutteral, demonic voice. You know what I mean? If not, well, the choice is yours, not mine.

Sleepy Emp, that was amazing. Thats all I can really say. Downright incredible.

Well the Marilyn Manson thing sounds like a good idea, even though I only have some basic idea of how his songs are, so I'll have to listen a bit more to him, but I think it will make a great remix.

About the lyrics, I'd definitely need some kind of lyricist able to do grunting and screams, but fortunately there's enough time to find one since I can just start with the arrangement and add the
vocals last.
Anyway, I'll start working on it this afternoon, and come up with a WIP to demonstrate the general idea as soon as possible ^^

[pu_freak]

You can never have enough dutch people working on a project, right? :wink:

EDIT: Uploaded the REAL 2nd WIP. And I'm happy with it this time

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Aaah, my ears are bleeding! Go kill yourself!

[MagiNinjA]

if anyone does need another violinist or clarinetist, just note that I am open.

I love boss themes :D

[pu_freak]

ed]Aaah, my ears are bleeding! Go kill yourself!

Alright, but someone better finish my song!

*pulls trigger*

[Fishy]

I noticed you have no one listed on page 1 for electric guitar so if anyone would like any feel free to ask me.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Great. Just too bad Gary Oak is taken :wink:

[Fishy]

Bah, I got enough projects on the go as it is. Completely neglecting schoolwork atm. Oh wells. I'm always playing guitar anyway so its no trouble for me.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Hey, not to rush ourselves out of the spotlight, but it's been over a week. Shouldn't we have moved to WIPs already?

[pu_freak]

Yeah, now you mention it, we should. Perhaps you should PM Darkesword about it

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Why? I could just do this:

MOVE US TO WIPS, NOW!!!

[pu_freak]

Hmmm... seems to not have any effect... I wonder why? :wink:

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Probably because so many projects have flooded General in the past week, the mods just don't pay attention to them anymore.

[pu_freak]

Yeah, I remember about 10 months ago, Darkesword told the Megaman X project to wait a little longer untill some projects were finished. Guess he didn't tell the other project cause it's hard to find something NOT project-realted these days. Ah well, as long as we make sure ours stand out from the rest everything'll be fine.

[The Vagrance]

Hey Pi, I sent you a PM, I haven't gotten a reply so I assume you haven't gotten it. Basically, take me off of Gary Oak, I may take one of the other open tracks but I may not, but I'm coming up with NOTHING for Gary Oak and I'm sure others have more ideas than me for it.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Yeah, ok. I'll take you off. Just remember, that whoever gets a WIP in first, you, or otherwise, is the one that claims that track. Should I keep you under "interested"?

Ill be honest, Im looking forwards to a seriously kick-ass guitar remix of the R/B Champion theme.

[Tensei]

ed]Yeah, ok. I'll take you off. Just remember, that whoever gets a WIP in first, you, or otherwise, is the one that claims that track. Should I keep you under "interested"?

Ill be honest, Im looking forwards to a seriously kick-ass guitar remix of the R/B Champion theme.

Well I'm not exactly volunteering to do it (have my hands full of the sephiroth theme at the moment anyway), but I definitely would be willing to collab on it with someone else, since I'm able to provide some decent guitar. Could you put me down in the instruments section under the electric guitar by the way?
Oh and my sephiroth mix is coming along nicely, it's not exactly going to be marilyn manson, but it's definitely gonna be ominous enough to fit sephiroth ^^

On the same note: does anyone know of a way to get the sampled vocals from OWA? :lol:

[Fishy]

ed]Yeah, ok. I'll take you off. Just remember, that whoever gets a WIP in first, you, or otherwise, is the one that claims that track. Should I keep you under "interested"?

Ill be honest, Im looking forwards to a seriously kick-ass guitar remix of the R/B Champion theme.

hint hint hint hint hint

[Jimmy Jazz]

Well I'm not exactly volunteering to do it (have my hands full of the sephiroth theme at the moment anyway), but I definitely would be willing to collab on it with someone else, since I'm able to provide some decent guitar. Could you put me down in the instruments section under the electric guitar by the way?

Could I collabarate with you on this? My hands are pretty full as well (Andross's theme was a bitch until quite recently - I had to work out all the notes myself), But I think I know what I could to do to make a kick ass backing track out of this, and then combined with your live guitar playing, it would just be all kinds of awesome

[pu_freak]

Hey Pi, I already PM'ed you about this some time ago, but I'll ask it again:

Can you make a "private" section of our Project's Forums where we can post near-finished tracks when the time comes and discuss things that "outsiders" shouldn't know about? It could become quite useful in the near future.

P.S. Any update on the artwork yet?

[The Vagrance]

Yeah, I'm still interested in this thing.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Tensei-San - on as guitar

Fishy - Err... whose project is that, again? 'Cause I've said it before, referring to that track, we're in competition now 8)

the-almighty-tallest - Well, then, where is it? I'm looking forward to this muchly so. As much as waiting for "A Very Leepmeister Thanksgiving"

pu_freak - Well, this is awkward. The current forums are actually run by POCKETMAN. I'm not even an admin, Im a mod :? . I made a new one here (http://privatechaos.iforumer.com/index.php). But I've had trouble with how to make them private. As in, putting a password on the threads, or making them only available to pre-selected members, or what?

And nothing on the art yet. Ill contact gts, see if
he's done with anything yet.

Doomsday - Y'alright. You let me know if you're picking anything. Take your time, too. no rush.


So, is it an official collab between Tensei-San and the-almighty-tallest on Gary's theme? Niiiice!

[avaris]

Make it so the remixers for the project are remixers. You'll have ur mods and u'll be the admin. Other people can still join and hear early wips. But then have sections of the forums that only admins/mods/remixers can join.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

The remixers are remixers? Damn, that sounds like some serious shit right there...

[Fishy]

ed]Fishy - Err... whose project is that, again? 'Cause I've said it before, referring to that track, we're in competition now 8)

Actually no ones doing that track for us, and I'm on enough tracks as it is. The most I'd do is play guitar for someone elses track of it. I thought you were just hinting me or someone else to try it.

[avaris]

Ah yes one of the greater philosophical questions of life.8O

I think it's the tales project that does it the same way. They have sections of their boards only remixers/mods/admins can access. I think it's a good idea.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

OK, I ran through the admin controls again, now only mods can see the forum.

I'll just change people who log on into mods, I guess. Or rather, those who log on, that actually need to see the tracks. None of those filthy commoners.

[Jimmy Jazz]

ed]

the-almighty-tallest - Well, then, where is it? I'm looking forward to this muchly so. As much as waiting for "A Very Leepmeister Thanksgiving"

So, is it an official collab between Tensei-San and the-almighty-tallest on Gary's theme? Niiiice!

The thing about my remix now is that its way schitzophrenic (I don't think Ive spelt that right), and I'm not quite happy with the drums. Parts just don't seem to fit.... But at least now I know exactly what I need to do (make everything flow better, get better drums). I'm not happy posting it into the WIP forums yet, but I will when Ive cleaned everything up.

The Tensei-San collab ain't official yet. All thats happened is Ive asked if Tensei-San would like to collab with me. But if Tensei San says yes, then it will be official.

ed] I'll just change people who log on into mods, I guess. Or rather, those who log on, that actually need to see the tracks. None of those filthy commoners

By ''people who need to see the tracks'', do you mean all the remixers?

EDIT: And I have a question about a different collab - are Pu_Freak and Leepmiester going to do that Dr.Willy/Sigma collab they talked about?

And one final question (For now): Who the hell are we going to remix in Crescendo To Chaos 2?

[Tensei]

Well I'm not exactly volunteering to do it (have my hands full of the sephiroth theme at the moment anyway), but I definitely would be willing to collab on it with someone else, since I'm able to provide some decent guitar. Could you put me down in the instruments section under the electric guitar by the way?

Could I collabarate with you on this? My hands are pretty full as well (Andross's theme was a bitch until quite recently - I had to work out all the notes myself), But I think I know what I could to do to make a kick ass backing track out of this, and then combined with your live guitar playing, it would just be all kinds of awesome

Well, if you have the inspiration, go for it! :lol:
I dont really have the time to come up with a full arrangement right now, but I'd be glad to help you make the guitar track, as well as performing it :)




On a completely unrelated note; I've taken a rather 'experimental' path with my sephiroth remix (lots of dissonance, polyrhythms and stuff), so would it be alright if I posted a midi to kind of demonstrate the general idea, just to make sure it isn't a bit 'too much'? If so, where should I post it? :D

[pu_freak]

Would it be alright if I posted a midi to kind of demonstrate the general idea, just to make sure it isn't a bit 'too much'? If so, where should I post it? :D

Of course, post away. At the first post there's a link to the project forums. There's a WIP thread there where you can post.

And Pi, I already PM'ed you at the private forum. I'm registered and waiting to be a mod. I've got a new version of my song redy and waiting to be posted there.

[Jimmy Jazz]

Well I'm not exactly volunteering to do it (have my hands full of the sephiroth theme at the moment anyway), but I definitely would be willing to collab on it with someone else, since I'm able to provide some decent guitar. Could you put me down in the instruments section under the electric guitar by the way?

Could I collabarate with you on this? My hands are pretty full as well (Andross's theme was a bitch until quite recently - I had to work out all the notes myself), But I think I know what I could to do to make a kick ass backing track out of this, and then combined with your live guitar playing, it would just be all kinds of awesome

Well, if you have the inspiration, go for it! :lol:
I dont really have the time to come up with a full arrangement right now, but I'd be glad to help you make the guitar track, as well as performing it :)

Yay! Its official! Woo!


On a completely unrelated note; I've taken a rather 'experimental' path with my sephiroth remix (lots of dissonance, polyrhythms and stuff), so would it be alright if I posted a midi to kind of demonstrate the general idea, just to make sure it isn't a bit 'too much'? If so, where should I post it? :D

Can you only export as Midi? Well, I suppose that the WIP forum on our site would be the place to post it.