Cyber Nations: Google Maps based Browser Game

[supremespleen]

http://www.cybernations.net/
Similar to Civ or NationStates, this MMO Browser game puts you in the seat of government leader. However, being Google Maps based, it has a bit of a cool twist.
The community is huge, the trade system is very cool, and the alliances and wars seem awesome.

I play as supremespleen, ruler of Woznia on the orange team. I'm located right on Cuba, while a mate of mine is in the Dominican Republic.
If you join, join the orange team and place yourself somewhere around Cuba/Dominican Republic so we're close together for trade, wars and other things.

If you're interested in joining, post here, and join here (http://s6.invisionfree.com/OCA_Headquarters/).

[kitty]

http://www.cybernations.net/
Similar to Civ or NationStates, this MMO Browser game puts you in the seat of government leader. However, being Google Maps based, it has a bit of a cool twist.
The community is huge, the trade system is very cool, and the alliances and wars seem awesome.

I play as supremespleen, ruler of Woznia on the orange team. I'm located right on Cuba, while a mate of mine is in the Dominican Republic.
If you join, join the orange team and place yourself somewhere around Cuba/Dominican Republic so we're close together for trade, wars and other things.

A nice feature of it, is it allows you to play as a peaceful nation, so you aren't constantly getting attacked. However, playing as a peaceful nation also takes more work to please your people.

If it seems slow, it means they've just upgraded stuff. Wait a bit, and it'll speed up.

Happy nation building!

note: If anyone has sugar as one of their trade goods, let me know. I need it so I can develop fast food. I have oil and wheat to offer.

Location has no effect on the game. So you don't need to be right next to each other unless you enjoy roleplaying like that.

For newbies: Joining alliances is recommended for easy access for trades and protection if attacked. Be aware that there's a world war going on right now.

[Black Mage]

This takes me back to my NationStates days...but seems better, once I figure it out, anyway.

[supremespleen]

Even so, it would be cool if we were all near each other.

[Nec5]

This takes me back to my NationStates days...but seems better, once I figure it out, anyway.Yeah. I just joined up and picked a nice, comfy spot in Antarctica. Nation name: Darkwind. 8)

[Foxxiña]

No one is within 500 miles of me. Horray for unnamed Antarctic Ocean islands!

[kitty]

No one is within 500 miles of me. Horray for unnamed Antarctic Ocean islands!

Actually many nations are within 500 miles of you, it's just that the map only shows nations that are within 500 miles of you that are in your range to attack.

[Shadowe]

The world war is actually pretty simple to explain.

The forum moderation and the game's admin are biased towards favoring the NPO (an alliance). The NPO are a bunch of elitist assholes who go around spamming threads with "HAIL EMPEROR IVAN!" and general dickery, because they can get away with it.

Just recently someone who was kicked out of another alliance called the LUE posted some goatse and other disgusting, but somewhat humorous in light of the NPO's attitude, crap on the forums. The NPO started throwing nukes at the LUE and GATO, the oldest alliance in cybernations, was bound by their Mututal Defense Pact to help the LUE. As well as a good set of morals.

The NPO has a long history of just starting wars over random crap and then at the end demanding incredible amounts of money and tech (very expensive) in reparations. Combined with their asshattery most of cybernations has gone to war with them.

SO far its; GATO-LUE-GGA-GPA-ODN-UDU and more against NPO-NpO-IGC. The IGC just dropped out though afaik, and the NpO is a puppet alliance.


It gets better though, a cabal called the Coven of the Lost has been sneaking around and basically recording history.

AAAaaaand thats basically the story of the 3rd cyberworld war.


[edit]

Forgot to mention, since the war started the NPO has been accusing everyone not shouting "HAIL IVAN" of supporting rape in real life.

[UnforgivingEdges]

Nation: Yggdrasill
Location: Iceland

Looking for a trade partner with cattle, have coal and silver to offer.

[kitty]

The world war is actually pretty simple to explain.

The forum moderation and the game's admin are biased towards favoring the NPO (an alliance). The NPO are a bunch of elitist assholes who go around spamming threads with "HAIL EMPEROR IVAN!" and general dickery, because they can get away with it.

Just recently someone who was kicked out of another alliance called the LUE posted some goatse and other disgusting, but somewhat humorous in light of the NPO's attitude, crap on the forums. The NPO started throwing nukes at the LUE and GATO, the oldest alliance in cybernations, was bound by their Mututal Defense Pact to help the LUE. As well as a good set of morals.

The NPO has a long history of just starting wars over random crap and then at the end demanding incredible amounts of money and tech (very expensive) in reparations. Combined with their asshattery most of cybernations has gone to war with them.

SO far its; GATO-LUE-GGA-GPA-ODN-UDU and more against NPO-NpO-IGC. The IGC just dropped out though afaik, and the NpO is a puppet alliance.


It gets better though, a cabal called the Coven of the Lost has been sneaking around and basically recording history.

AAAaaaand thats basically the story of the 3rd cyberworld war.


[edit]

Forgot to mention, since the war started the NPO has been accusing everyone not shouting "HAIL IVAN" of supporting rape in real life.

Excuse me but I don't consider myself an elitist asshole because I'm part of the NPO and like to roleplay a little bit.

EDIT: I'd also like to add a request to prevent this kind of talk on OCR, especially to that related to specific alliances. The CN forums are already littered with spam, flames, and outright nonsense that it corrupts the minds of almost all who play just a bit seriously. I don't want this to happen here at OCR.

[Black Mage]

Nation: Archamedia
Location: SE Alaska/Western British Colombia area.

I must say, though, that I'm bummed that I can't upload my own flag.

[Effector]

Nation: Iron Directorate
Location: Mexican Peninsula (19.31114335506464, -89.296875)

Don't expect much action from me, I'm deep into Oblivion right now, so... I agree with BM, I want my own flag!

Looks like a nice game though. Nice find, spleen.

EDIT: Spleen, I have t3h sugar (And uranium. What else do you need, really.), but all your trade slots are full. Do you still need it, or what?

[Nec5]

Nation: Iron Directorate
Location: Mexican Peninsula (19.31114335506464, -89.296875)

Don't expect much action from me, I'm deep into Oblivion right now, so... I agree with BM, I want my own flag!

Looks like a nice game though. Nice find, spleen.

EDIT: Spleen, I have t3h sugar (And uranium. What else do you need, really.), but all your trade slots are full. Do you still need it, or what?Well, I just asked you anyway. :D

[supremespleen]

Nation: Iron Directorate
Location: Mexican Peninsula (19.31114335506464, -89.296875)

Don't expect much action from me, I'm deep into Oblivion right now, so... I agree with BM, I want my own flag!

Looks like a nice game though. Nice find, spleen.

EDIT: Spleen, I have t3h sugar (And uranium. What else do you need, really.), but all your trade slots are full. Do you still need it, or what?I'd rather trade with you than someone I don't know.

Hmm, just looked at my trade list. The way I have my trading set up, I can't easily switch out. Plus, I'm getting diamonds and sugar from one guy.
Damn sweet deal.
Sorry, can't deal right now.
Hit me up on aim next time you're on though.

[Smedricksman24]

Switchbladia
Axopoulous
Smedricksman24

I'm Spleen's mate on the Dominican. I've got cattle and rubber, though my trading spots are full.

ERRRRR.Edit: I meant they'll be full if Effector will trade.

[supremespleen]

Switchbladia
Axopoulous
Smedricksman24

I'm Spleen's mate on the Dominican. I've got cattle and rubber, though my trading spots are full.You're sig's busted, mate.

[Smedricksman24]

Yeah, that's cuz I geleted that image when I cleaned my photobucket, thinking I didn't use that sig anyway. I got a different one htough.

[supremespleen]

I suggest joining IRON, an orange alliance.

[Blake]

This game is quite awesome. I just don't know how to view my trading nations yet.

[supremespleen]

I have a problem. All I need to produce beer is water. However, my trade is set up so taht what I've got making fast food is spread across four trade relations.
Does anyone have a water/spice trade combo?

[linkspast]

is this a pretty simple game to learn? it looks kinda interstring.

[GregZor]

I used to play NationStates all the time. I'm definitly gonna check this out because it seems more in-depth.

[Raenok]

Aztec-Roman Republic here, Orange, right on the Yucatan penninsula.

But I doubt I would last too long. Doesn't look like is has any REAL improvment pages. I need more workers...

[Paladin-01]

I'm curious. Is it a high bandwidth game? RTS? Ingame chat?

[Shadowe]

I'm curious. Is it a high bandwidth game? RTS? Ingame chat?

It's browser based, and "updates" at 1am EST.

[Effector]

I'm confused. I had like, four messages telling me I had trade requests (including Smedricks and Necn), but when I go to the trade screen, the only trade agreement I can choose from is Bliz. Did everyone pull their's out on me, or am I missing something?

[Black Mage]

I'm confused. I had like, four messages telling me I had trade requests (including Smedricks and Necn), but when I go to the trade screen, the only trade agreement I can choose from is Bliz. Did everyone pull their's out on me, or am I missing something?

Similar thing happened to me last night, some sort of glitch, I guess.

BTW, what team is everyone? I'm green at the moment, though may be looking to change to find easier trade opportunities.

[Effector]

I'm confused. I had like, four messages telling me I had trade requests (including Smedricks and Necn), but when I go to the trade screen, the only trade agreement I can choose from is Bliz. Did everyone pull their's out on me, or am I missing something?

Similar thing happened to me last night, some sort of glitch, I guess.

BTW, what team is everyone? I'm green at the moment, though may be looking to change to find easier trade opportunities.

I think a lot of OCR people are orange. I count seven oranges (spleen, me, Foxx, Necn, Smedricks, Raenok, and bliz), one green (you), one blue (Pelto), and one none (phthisis).

Also, if one wants to resubmit those trade requests... that'd be great, although I think everyone is full up right now.

EDIT: I wish, I wish, I wish that the maps played a bigger part. It'd be nice if you could see all the markers for your team, or everyone on your saved nations list.

[Black Mage]

I was just browsing through their forum and found the thread about the flags. Seems that they don't want to have the burden of thousands of custom flags on their servers. Many have suggested that they just allow direct linking from imageshack, photobucket, etc, which would solve that problem. But the admins insist that all flags would still have to be approved before being displayed. They would need a team of mods for that, but I guess they don't want any.

So for the time being, I guess it's no personal flags, which sucks because mine is a good one.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/Motzart120/Archaflagbig.jpg

[Specter]

Dr. Specter, leader of Warchland
Orange team, located on a small island between Cuba and Hati.

EDIT: National resources are water and aluminium if anybod wants to trade

[Corporal Eschebone]

I'm the Alesian Protectorate, an orange nation on the Faeroe Islands. Gonna join that IRON thing as soon as I figure out how...


Edit: Also my resources are aluminum and pigs.

[linkspast]

i joined up as well. orange team.
fortress of solitude, is the name of my nation, and its in antarictia.

[Strike911]

name : Strike911
Nation: Einhander

bwhahaha.

Okay, so I'm located in Hawaii, and I've got iron and silver. Weee. Go Orange team.

[Corporal Eschebone]

Just to make sure, it's most benificial if we trade with nations who don't have any resources in common right?

[kitty]

I suggest OCR makes their own alliance. Even if all of you are all new, it's better this way because you make yourself sovereign, instead of binding yourself to the will of the veteran alliances, who like to twist the minds of new members to their own ways. OCR has the manpower to prosper within itself. Another suggestion, start all OCR members in a bigger team color (NOT pink, black, maroon, or yellow which are all new colors). Looks like orange is the main color. Get some trades going with ALL OCR members, then make a switch to a new team color to try to gain control of that team's senate.

In Cybernations news, the Legion (purple alliance, former NPO ally) has declared war on the NPO (red alliance, one I'm in).


Oh and to answer the question above me: Yeah, double resources doesn't stack so make sure you have something different. Check out the CN wiki, it's filled with good info on how to play. Everyone should keep pumping money into infra and purchase some land every now and then.

[Nec5]

Should we compile a list of all OCR nations somewhere in this thread?

[supremespleen]

Stay orange, guys!
Sometime, I'm going to need to fix up my trade build. I have all I need for fast food, but no easy way to get water in for fast food and beer. I'm gonna have to rework it all, but it'll take some work.

[kitty]

You should also create forums offsite of OCR, because you'll need it for diplomacy and you'll need the admin powers to control the board. Most CN alliances use their own website (if they own it) or Invisionfree boards. Alas, I'm devoted to the NPO and I won't be joining the OCR, but if you guys want to open diplomatic relations with us, I'll gladly be the diplomat to the OCR alliance, if it's created.

[supremespleen]

Just threw together a list of nations that were mentioned in this thread, see the first post.

I can run an IF board, or get us an IRC channel. We should also work on ways we can all trade with each other, that way, we don't have to worry about people bailing out on us, etc.

For any new members, start around Cuba, South America, Dominican Republic. It would be keen if we could take one area for ourselves.

And Falchion, be our representative.

[Nec5]

I'm just beginning to play around. For easy access, you can look up each of our teams and add them to your "saved nations" list(it's one of the options on the left side). Here's my complete info:

Ruler: Necn5
Nation: Darkwind
Trade: Aluminum and Fish

[kitty]

Just threw together a list of nations that were mentioned in this thread, see the first post.

I can run an IF board, or get us an IRC channel. We should also work on ways we can all trade with each other, that way, we don't have to worry about people bailing out on us, etc.

For any new members, start around Cuba, South America, Dominican Republic. It would be keen if we could take one area for ourselves.

And Falchion, be our representative.

Well, unless I'm in the OCR alliance, I can't necessarily be your "representative." It's specific wording that's needed. >_> Basically, I would be the diplomat from the NPO to OCR. So I would "represent" the NPO to OCR. Catch my drift? So hard to explain. T_T

BTW: Nation name: Zhiyuan
Leader: Silhouette

Don't mind my waining strength because I'm at war with 5 nations. Sucks a lot.

[supremespleen]

Jeez, I found someone with a spice/water combo. I hope they accept my offer.

[kitty]

Jeez, I found someone with a spice/water combo. I hope they accept my offer.

Make sure to trade with orange team members (and OCR hopefully!) because you get a +1 happiness bonus for trading with a team member.

[Corporal Eschebone]

I happened to get an invitation to IRON just as I was signing up in their thread. w00t, and I've only been on for a few hours.

[kitty]

I happened to get an invitation to IRON just as I was signing up in their thread. w00t, and I've only been on for a few hours.

Most alliances like to troll for newbies so they can boast about their amount of members. I personally don't like it. The NPO might do it to, but I wouldn't know because I had to go to them to sign up a few months back.

[Corporal Eschebone]

I happened to get an invitation to IRON just as I was signing up in their thread. w00t, and I've only been on for a few hours.

Most alliances like to troll for newbies so they can boast about their amount of members. I personally don't like it. The NPO might do it to, but I wouldn't know because I had to go to them to sign up a few months back.

Yeah, they offered me $10,000 and I'm skeptical as to whether they'll actually live up to that, particularly since it'd be so expensive to recruit new members. There's also at least two dozen nations out of 265 who don't look like they received such a huge sum also.

But eh, I guess you can't control the ethics of individual members.

[kitty]

I happened to get an invitation to IRON just as I was signing up in their thread. w00t, and I've only been on for a few hours.

Most alliances like to troll for newbies so they can boast about their amount of members. I personally don't like it. The NPO might do it to, but I wouldn't know because I had to go to them to sign up a few months back.

Yeah, they offered me $10,000 and I'm skeptical as to whether they'll actually live up to that, particularly since it'd be so expensive to recruit new members. There's also at least two dozen nations out of 265 who don't look like they received such a huge sum also.

But eh, I guess you can't control the ethics of individual members.

Haha I would take the $10k and run with it. Of course you'd be attacked like no tomorrow. >_>

[Antelucan]

Wow. I just started a cyber nation today independently of this thread. Talk about a coincidence.

Anyway, I just changed to the orange team. Right now I am looking for trade partners in gold, gems, or coal (trying to get jewelry).

R: Cardinal Lustro
N: Aldebrant
T: Oil, Silver

[supremespleen]

Just updated the list. I got the trade with some cat I don't know.
I'll switch to an OCR member if someone with the right combo pops up.

[Corporal Eschebone]

You might wanna color-code them.

[supremespleen]

You might wanna color-code them.Based on team? That sounds good, though I think most of us are orange. I'll do that later tonight.

[Corporal Eschebone]

You might wanna color-code them.Based on team? That sounds good, though I think most of us are orange. I'll do that later tonight.

Well if you color-code them then it'll make it even more clear which team to join, not to mention tricking a bunch of people into trying to click on the links. :P

[supremespleen]

You might wanna color-code them.Based on team? That sounds good, though I think most of us are orange. I'll do that later tonight.

Well if you color-code them then it'll make it even more clear which team to join, not to mention tricking a bunch of people into trying to click on the links. :PRoger. I'm going to assume those that didn't mention a specific team just joined orange when I do this tonight.

edit: We should add in our nation info: Proud member of the OCR Alliance to stave off would be attackers. Also, if we're going to have the OCR Alliance, we won't be able to join IRON.

[UnforgivingEdges]

By the way, I'm non-affiliated right now because I want to build up my strength without any scrutiny on me (it also helps that there's only 3 other nations on Iceland at the moment).

I think I'm going to get in touch with some of my neighboring countries and try and starta little informal Icelandic alliance, since we're a rather weak bunch.

[Nec5]

In all the hustle and bustle of building a nation, I forgot to thank you for starting this thread and giving us a heads up. Thanks. 8)

[supremespleen]

In all the hustle and bustle of building a nation, I forgot to thank you for starting this thread and giving us a heads up. Thanks. 8)Welcome! I think I have everyone on the list in the right color. Let me know if I forgot to add you, have you in the wrong color, etc

[kitty]

You guys in the OCR Alliance should make/register an IRC channel on the Espernet servers. Make sure to make a private and public channels.

EDIT:
Oh, and make sure to announce your official creation on the CN forums. You'll probably have to RP to some extent, since a lot of that is done by every alliance, except for LUE. Make sure to open your own forums before doing so.

[Black Mage]

So I"m guessing tha alliances are not really part of your national profile, just an extra thing one does outside the game?

[Atticus Finch]

Should I reg us an IF forum? Or should I just reg an IRC channel?

[Nec5]

Should I reg us an IF forum? Or should I just reg an IRC channel? I guess a forum. I almost never ever use IRC for anything.

[kitty]

Should I reg us an IF forum? Or should I just reg an IRC channel? I guess a forum. I almost never ever use IRC for anything.

Well, you guys should elect a leader first, then have that person reg the forum, and the irc channel. Even if you hardly use the irc channel, all CN alliances use them, even the small dinky ones.

[Atticus Finch]

Elections! I will run to lead us. Anyone else interested?

[kitty]

Elections! I will run to lead us. Anyone else interested?

I'd run for you guys, but I'm too loyal to the NPO to quit and join you guys. >_> After elections or assigning a leader, draft a charter/constitution that sets your alliance policies and present it to the CN world in your introduction thread.

[supremespleen]

Oh wow, I posted with my alt a lot in this thread.
Oops, heh.

Anyway, I'd be happy to run and take the time for this. I should be able to reg us a forum and channel sometime tomorrow.

supremespleen for leader of the OCR Alliance!

[kitty]

If you guys go democratic, make sure to have elections every month or so, that timeframe seems to be the best. The NPO is an empire, so our leader is always the same. Our Alliance and War Councils, however, are elected positions.

EDIT: No need for the quote.

[Antelucan]

supremespleen has taken an informal leadership role as the creator of this thread, and I support him as Provisional Leader of the OverClocked Alliance.

I would suggest that we concentrate on building our own nations up first and garnering some political clout before we dive into active recruitment. CyberNations is literally swarming with alliances, so I think our first priority should be to justify our own existence. Basically, a OCA should be for the mutual protection and advancement of OCR members first and foremost.

I've taken a look at the charters for some of the major alliances, and I think I have a pretty good idea of what I'd like to see in ours, if/when it comes to that; however, I will give it some more thought as time permits.

[Corporal Eschebone]

By the way, the best way to manage taxes seems to be to try all the rates between 19% and 28% until you find the most profitable rate since it works on a curve with more than one maximum.

[kitty]

By the way, the best way to manage taxes seems to be to try all the rates between 19% and 28% until you find the most profitable rate since it works on a curve with more than one maximum.

Don't bother, use this instead. http://robocracy.net/taxtest/

[Corporal Eschebone]

By the way, I'm non-affiliated right now because I want to build up my strength without any scrutiny on me (it also helps that there's only 3 other nations on Iceland at the moment).

I think I'm going to get in touch with some of my neighboring countries and try and starta little informal Icelandic alliance, since we're a rather weak bunch.

Well, location doesn't really matter in the game except that your map shows you everyone in your "rank" who's within 500 miles of you. That number will certainly fluctuate as you get more powerful and you realize that there's been then uber-powerful dude right next to you the whole time. :)


So I"m guessing tha alliances are not really part of your national profile, just an extra thing one does outside the game?

Essentially, yes - Unless you're a member of one of the top alliances, in which case the alliance gets a stats page if you go to View My Nation > Ranking (top right corner).


Edit:

By the way, the best way to manage taxes seems to be to try all the rates between 19% and 28% until you find the most profitable rate since it works on a curve with more than one maximum.

Don't bother, use this instead. http://robocracy.net/taxtest/

That doesn't work correctly for me though (and yes I punched in the right info). It says the best tax rate for me is 16% ($9.06) when it's really 23% (~$10). There's some "hidden" factors apparently, perhaps including resources. I'd suggest doing it manually.

[kitty]

That doesn't work correctly for me though (and yes I punched in the right info). It says the best tax rate for me is 16% ($9.06) when it's really 23% (~$10). There's some "hidden" factors apparently, perhaps including resources. I'd suggest doing it manually.

Hmm I noticed it doesn't work for low stats for some reason. It stopped working when I was in anarchy. When you start earning more income, it works better. Anyway, test around 16%-28%.

[supremespleen]

I'd like to see us stay peaceful, then build up a lot of forces and start taking territory.

And Antelucan, thanks for your support.

[Black Mage]

You can count me in for an OCR Alliance, I even switched over to orange.

[Jarvi]

I rarely post but I saw this thread and someone had mentioned like Nation States but more indepth, so I decided to sign up.

Nation: Aldin
Ruler: Eva999
Trade: Cattle, Lumber

On the orange team.

[AceofSpades704]

Put me on the list. :p Figured I'd switch on over to the orange team and maybe try to get myself on the OCR Alliance. >_>

Nation: Teavania
Ruler: Cynnova
Trade: Lumber, Pigs

[MarioRPG]

Just joined minutes ago. Seems like a promising game. Orange of course.

Nation: Aldrane
Ruler: MarioRPG
Trade: Iron, Silver

[supremespleen]

Just added the new names to the list. I've also been working on some general guidelines we should agree to follow.

[Olrad]

I don't normally post but this looks interesting.

Olrad:
R: Olrad
N: Olradland
T: Water,Spices

Was someone looking for water\spices earlier?

[Specter]

Wait, do we actually have an alliance to join at the moment, cause I'm on the fence with the IRON people, and I need to know how soon this is gonna go down.

[supremespleen]

Wait, do we actually have an alliance to join at the moment, cause I'm on the fence with the IRON people, and I need to know how soon this is gonna go down.I believe we do. Is there an actual interface in the game where we select the alliance? If so, I'll need to set that up.

[Nec5]

I don't see an actual interface button or anything. If you check out the forums, there's an entire section with stickies about Alliances. I can't really decipher all of it, but it seems that everything is done offsite. After enough time, the mods/admins somehow "sanction" certain alliances. That forum seems to be the only soucre of info. I'm still reading.

[supremespleen]

I don't normally post but this looks interesting.

Olrad:
R: Olrad
N: Olradland
T: Water,Spices

Was someone looking for water\spices earlier?Yes, and I sent you a trade request. Please accept, as I cancled another to trade with you. [:]

[MarioRPG]

I believe you have to have a rather large alliance before it becomes 'clickable'.


Olrad: I also asked for a spice trade with you.

[Mr.Roboto]

So..I decided to try this game out..man..im such a noob.

Anyway..

Sygtyr
N:Vallius
C:Veldt
resources are Iron and Marble.

Gah.I'm such a noob.

[Strike911]

someone move over to Hawaii with me. ^_^ lol.

[Antelucan]

Wait, do we actually have an alliance to join at the moment, cause I'm on the fence with the IRON people, and I need to know how soon this is gonna go down.I believe we do. Is there an actual interface in the game where we select the alliance? If so, I'll need to set that up.
There are only like ten major alliances that are recognized in-game. The rest are unsanctioned and not officially part of the game.

Perhaps we could explore the possibility of forming some sort of sub-alliance within IRON.

[The Womb]

Country: Wombadia
Capital Flopia
Ruler: Megawomb
I gots Oil and Cattle

I'm still a little lost on what resources do

[Antelucan]

Country: Wombadia
Capital Flopia
Ruler: Megawomb
I gots Oil and Cattle

I'm still a little lost on what resources do
This thread (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=3227) helps a lot with learning how the game works.

Basically, each resource gives you certain bonuses. For example, your oil "lowers initial soldier cost -$3.00, increases population happiness +1, and increases solder count +4%," while your cattle "increases number of citizens +5% and lowers initial land cost -10%" (from this thread (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=31)). When you trade with other people, you get the bonuses their resources carry. Also, if you collect certain combinations of resources from trade agreements, you get "bonus resources" (see this thread (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=10470) for more info about that).

[MarioRPG]

Bonus resources rock.

[JoeFu]

So I just made a place for fun

N:Funisia
R:JoeFu
T:Cattle and Lumber.

[kitty]

Don't worry about being "recognized" by the admins and the mods as part of the game. The politics going on are all official in the RP forum so as long as you establish yourself some forums and an irc channel you're as legit as the rest. The most powerful guys are just recognized in game. As I said before, announcing your existence after you guys get started on that stuff will officially make you guys part of the politics in the game.

[Corporal Eschebone]

Country: Wombadia
Capital Flopia
Ruler: Megawomb
I gots Oil and Cattle

I'm still a little lost on what resources do

There's links off to the side of each stat, yanno.

[RocketSniper]

I'm in the Panama canal, I have pigs and wine.

Edit: I'm Simulated Nation.

I'm in desperate need of money though, land's expensive down there (and I wasted $400 of my $500 on it).

I mean, jesus, $400 for a square mile? I'm not made of drugs!


...

Or am I...?

Someone just sent me a message, something about "IRON". Should I join?

[Corporal Eschebone]

I'm in the Panama canal, I have pigs and wine.

Edit: I'm Simulated Nation.

I'm in desperate need of money though, land's expensive down there (and I wasted $400 of my $500 on it).

I mean, jesus, $400 for a square mile? I'm not made of drugs!


...

Or am I...?

Don't worry, you'll get more money at 1AM tonight.

Also, once you do get money, spend it on infrastructure. It's best to have a 2:1 infrastructure:land ratio. Also, don't bother buying land unless there's more than 70 citizens per square mile.

[Nec5]

Unless I'm missing something, this game is designed for those interested in a long haul. Unlike Starcraft and Age of Empires, you won't have a functioning city within thirty minutes or an hour.

Land and infrastructure are definitely expensive. It says you need 1000 citizens for an improvement building. I have a whopping 121. It's going to be a while. :oops:

[RocketSniper]

I started with 80 people and .125 square miles of land. I think I needed it.

[supremespleen]

I wouldn't join IRON, as I think we're going to start our own alliance.

I think it would be keen if we could take all of Cuba eventually.

[Corporal Eschebone]

I think it would be keen if we could take all of Cuba eventually.

Except there's the problems of "location doesn't matter" and "you can only attack within your own rank."

[Nec5]

I think it would be keen if we could take all of Cuba eventually.

Except there's the problems of "location doesn't matter" and "you can only attack within your own rank."He just wants a cigar monopoly. :D

[supremespleen]

I think it would be keen if we could take all of Cuba eventually.

Except there's the problems of "location doesn't matter" and "you can only attack within your own rank."He just wants a cigar monopoly. :DThe location doesn't matter, sure, but it would look cool if Cuba was all orange.

Even so, you have a point. I want to get into the PvP aspect. Is the sole purpose of war to piss people off and gain a bit of land?

[Antelucan]

I want to get into the PvP aspect. Is the sole purpose of war to piss people off and gain a bit of land?
Land is gained through natural growth and purchases made.

[supremespleen]

I want to get into the PvP aspect. Is the sole purpose of war to piss people off and gain a bit of land?
Land is gained through natural growth and purchases made.And spoils of war.

[Antelucan]

I want to get into the PvP aspect. Is the sole purpose of war to piss people off and gain a bit of land?
Land is gained through natural growth and purchases made.
And spoils of war.
Ah, you are correct. :o

[supremespleen]

/me salutes

Even so, the way I interpreted the explanation of them, the chance of recieving it seems small.

[kingbane]

this sounds like fun i think i'll make an account. but first! i must read up on how to play!

[Strike911]

I'm in hawaii, i wish i was in Cuba, but alas, I have my country in Hawaii.

lol, I'm like surrounded by red. hehe.


EDIT:

What happens, if, hypothetically, I don't collect taxes one day. Does it carry over to the next day or no? I'm afraid to try.

[Mi'kile]

Just joined up and looking for some trade, sugar and cattle would be good.

Mi'kile:
R: Mikile
N: Rubberduck
T: Aluminum, Pigs

Already set up in merry old England before reading the forum I'm afraid. A case of more haste, less geography. :oops:

[kingbane]

ok i got a nation up. i'm set up in the cayman islands hehe.

R: Kingbane
N: Eternal Night
T: Fish, wine

[Mr.Roboto]

We should all get uranium,nuclear warheads, and play some global lawn darts.Oh the hilarity.

[MarioRPG]

If you don't collect taxes they get interest on them.

IRON is offering money, no wonder they're top ten.

[supremespleen]

We should all get uranium,nuclear warheads, and play some global lawn darts.Oh the hilarity.That would be pretty rofl.

[MarioRPG]

I just realized, I'm going to be computerless next week.

Shit, now I just realized my bills will be fuckin huge when I get back.

EDIT: BTW, if anyone cares, I'm located in the Yucatan Pennisula near Mexico.

[kingbane]

DAMN i wish i had some more valuable resources. gold and silver would kick ass.

[Jarvi]

hey Mi'kile, I sent you a trade offering cattle and lumber, hope you accept cuz I canceled one of my trades to trade with you instead.

EDIT: Hmm what other religion worships Allah besides Islam and believes in reincarnation?

[Antelucan]

Hmm what other religion worships Allah besides Islam and believes in reincarnation?
Some people in the forums suggest Sikhism.

[Black Mage]

I think it would be keen if we could take all of Cuba eventually.

Except there's the problems of "location doesn't matter" and "you can only attack within your own rank."

I still need to build up my technology level so I can get tanks, and missiles, and mmany more soldiers.

[Mi'kile]

Ok Eva999, I've accepted your offer.

Still have two slots free and looking for wheat and sugar, I have aluminum and pigs.
Already trading for cattle, lumber, spices and water.

Is building up a big military early a bad idea because I'm losing money on taxes?

[Antelucan]

Is building up a big military early a bad idea because I'm losing money on taxes?
Soldiers cost money to maintain which will increase your bills, but if you don't have enough soldiers your people won't feel protected and their happiness will decrease which will decrease your income. Your "Private Nation Messages" will tell you if your military size is adequate for your nation's population. I wouldn't worry about building a huge army at the outset. Young nations seem to benefit the most from purchasing infrastructure to get a healthy economy going.

[The Womb]

Anyone wanna trade?
I have cattle and Oil
What I really want is Gold and Coal because I have gems and silver and would like to get fine jewlery
But right now I'd be fine with anything

[supremespleen]

Yes, my people are 'very happy'! Thanks to changing to their desired religion and government, they've very happy Jewish Scandinavians under a totalitarian government in Cuba.

Heh, I'm going to be leaving for a three day vacation tomorrow, after that I'm going to switch to a war nation.

Smedricks, contact me on aim, I have a favor to ask of you before I leave.

[bones_221]

Well, I just joined the Orange team.

N: Mariya
R: Mayen
T: Iron, Marble

I kinda got freaked out when I saw that I needed to pay bills. My first thought was "I thought this was free!" My second was "Man, I gotta go to the bathroom." The third and fourth kinda melted together as one unintelligible mass, but the fifth was, after I looked at it, "$18 a day is way too expensive for it to be real." My next four thoughts were how stupid I am.

Speaking of stupid, has the OCA been set up yet? And if so, how does one join an alliance? (When I say I just barely joined up, I mean I just BARELY joined up...)

Edit: when I say "speaking of stupid" I'm referring to myself, not the OCA. I was just reading it, and realized it could easily be taken that way...

[Effector]

This is getting to be a pretty jamming thread.

Yeah, I've got nothing to contribute.

[kitty]

If you guys want to start making yourself "part of an alliance" you need to put something in your nation bio that says you're part of it. Of course, other alliances require you to sign up and I suggest the OCA get their forums/irc (I know I keep saying this, but it's very important to become an alliance). So after you guys get more organized, put something like this in your bio: "Member of the OCA" or something.

[bones_221]

Since I'm much too lazy to go back through the thread again and read if anyone has any plans to start an alliance, does anyone have any plans to start an alliance? By "plans" I mean "Yeah, I'm getting it set up right now," not "Man, that'd be cool." If not, does anyone mind if I just go ahead and do that? I got nothing to do today anyway.

[kitty]

Since I'm much too lazy to go back through the thread again and read if anyone has any plans to start an alliance, does anyone have any plans to start an alliance? By "plans" I mean "Yeah, I'm getting it set up right now," not "Man, that'd be cool." If not, does anyone mind if I just go ahead and do that? I got nothing to do today anyway.

supremespleen is already on it.

[bones_221]

Great. I'll just wait for him, then. Thank God for you, Falchion!

[kitty]

Yeah I have nothing better to do while I wait for the next chess tourny. Jumping on posts in this thread as soon as they come. >_<

[bones_221]

Yeah, chess is fun. I just wish I didn't suck at it so very, very much

[DarkOmenDKA]

ok... i just joined the orange team.. located somewhere in mexico

[Mr.Roboto]

Lets go make Myspace accounts.

Seriously. (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_link.asp)

[bones_221]

ok... i just joined the orange team.. located somewhere in mexico

What's your nation and ruler name?

[bones_221]

Lets go make Myspace accounts.

Seriously. (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_link.asp)

Woah. Sorry for double posting, but does this offer mean that EACH link will get the nation $10,000, 10 miles etc. Because if so, I could over $50,000 within a week.

[kitty]

Lets go make Myspace accounts.

Seriously. (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_link.asp)

Woah. Sorry for double posting, but does this offer mean that EACH link will get the nation $10,000, 10 miles etc. Because if so, I could over $50,000 within a week.

One offer per nation is the rule. You can still donate, however, and still get that bonus. I linked once, and never got the bonus. Oh well.

[Antelucan]

Lets go make Myspace accounts.

Seriously. (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_link.asp)
Woah. Sorry for double posting, but does this offer mean that EACH link will get the nation $10,000, 10 miles etc. Because if so, I could over $50,000 within a week.
Read the Link Offer Conditions. Also, you can't just start up a myspace or blog, it must already be well-established with regular traffic. Other than that, it's an excellent deal for new nations like us.

I might go the donation (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_donation.asp) route, however.

[kitty]

I think Supremespleen can get credit for posting the link here at OCR. :lol:

[Black Mage]

Lets go make Myspace accounts.

Seriously. (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_link.asp)
Woah. Sorry for double posting, but does this offer mean that EACH link will get the nation $10,000, 10 miles etc. Because if so, I could over $50,000 within a week.
Read the Link Offer Conditions. Also, you can't just start up a myspace or blog, it must already be well-established with regular traffic. Other than that, it's an excellent deal for new nations like us.

I might go the donation (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_donation.asp) route, however.

I think I'll wait for any donations until I'm sure I won't forget about the game within the next week.

[Antelucan]

I think Supremespleen can get credit for posting the link here at OCR. :lol:
He really deserves it though; he's referred like 20 people to the game.

How's that 'Great War' shaping up Falchion? The CN forums sure move fast. There's so much praise, condemnation, and accusation in any given thread I cannot make heads or tails of it.

[DarkOmenDKA]

ok... i just joined the orange team.. located somewhere in mexico

What's your nation and ruler name?

My nation is Zero One and my ruler is DarkOmen... I need allies lol

[bones_221]

Stupid offer conditions. I never (repeat: NEVER) read the fine print. I think that's why I owe Thief my soul and 115% of everything I ever gain (there'd better be at least twelve people that get that reference).

I wouldn't mind spending $5 to get the bonus from the donation. $5 is only lunch for a little over two days, so it wouldn't impact me THAT much. And yes, supremespleen should definitely get the referral credit for the OCR troup.

And Dark Omen, supremespleen (apparently) is working on setting up an OCR alliance (dubbed the 'OCA' I believe). In the meantime, just save everyone in the first post of this thread in your "Saved Nations." At least, that's what I did. Also, I followed Falchion's advice and put "Member of OCA" in my bio. It doesn't do anything yet, though...

[DarkOmenDKA]

This game looks really interesting. I have always wanted to play a game of this caliber but all the other variants had cruddy AI that sucked. Hopefully this one is better.

[kitty]

NOTICE TO ALL THOSE THINKING ABOUT DONATING

Do NOT donate until later. Later on infrastructure and everything else becomes more expensive, so to get more bang for your buck, donate later.

To answer a question about the Great War: I'm being hit hard, but the NPO is lasting against all odds. The only major alliances we need to take out are LUE, GATO, GGA, and maybe the NAAC (but the NAAC sucks so they're not important.)


Oh, putting "member of OCA" won't do anything physically, it just identifies you as a member when other people read it. Official memberlists have to be kept by the actual alliance.

[kingbane]

ok so i got these 2 long ass messages to vote on some senate thing for the orange team? and then an IRON invitation anyone accept hte iron invitation did they make good on thier money promise thing?

[MarioRPG]

IRON keeps their money promise, I'm betting.

But if you join them you can't be in the OCA right?

[DarkOmenDKA]

Looking to make trade offers. I have Lead and Lumber. Send I am looking for Oil, cattle, water, and gold. Anything else is viable. Send me a message and a trade request if you are interested

[Shadowe]

NOTICE TO ALL THOSE THINKING ABOUT DONATING

Do NOT donate until later. Later on infrastructure and everything else becomes more expensive, so to get more bang for your buck, donate later.

To answer a question about the Great War: I'm being hit hard, but the NPO is lasting against all odds. The only major alliances we need to take out are LUE, GATO, GGA, and maybe the NAAC (but the NAAC sucks so they're not important.)


You forgot that the Legion joined the war.

[Mr.Roboto]

Whats scary is the fact that the global radiation is currently at 3.00.Which is the max..it increases by 0.02% every time a nuclear warhead is fired.Heres the scary part:It only counts for a week,then it resets itself.

150 nukes were fired and were only in the middle of the week.

[supremespleen]

It's pretty lame. I did the offer in which you link to CN, stuck it on the site in my sig, sent the correct e-mail.
I still haven't recieved the reward. Think I could mention this thread? I suppose I will, as I'd really like this cash.
(edit: sent another, complained of e-mail glitch)

Anyway, we have an alliance as far as I am concerned. I haven't had the opportunity to post about it in the CN forums yet, but I will. I don't think there is any huge rush, especially as we are all peaceful nations right now.

Tomorrow, I am leaving for a two-three day vacation out of state where I won't have net access. After that, I will do everything to make us official, i.e., reg us a forum, IRC channel, and post about us.

[Antelucan]

Do NOT donate until later. Later on infrastructure and everything else becomes more expensive, so to get more bang for your buck, donate later.
Or, if you're made of cash (which I'm certainly not), you can donate both now AND later (since you can do it monthly).

You forgot that the Legion joined the war.
Yeah they did, and now they're at peace again, if I understand correctly.

[Jarvi]

gah if someone has a pig/spice combo please trade me, I really need it.

[kitty]

NOTICE TO ALL THOSE THINKING ABOUT DONATING

Do NOT donate until later. Later on infrastructure and everything else becomes more expensive, so to get more bang for your buck, donate later.

To answer a question about the Great War: I'm being hit hard, but the NPO is lasting against all odds. The only major alliances we need to take out are LUE, GATO, GGA, and maybe the NAAC (but the NAAC sucks so they're not important.)


You forgot that the Legion joined the war.

At the time of the post, we already had Peace with the Legion, ODN, and CSF.

EDIT: And now there's a FULL ceasefire with everyone.

And to answer someone's concern about accepting IRON's proposal and being in the OCA: You can't be in both alliances at the same time. I'm sure you would face expulsion from IRON, and probably the same from the OCA once it gets its rules set.

[supremespleen]

I have basic rules written, but not typed. Essentially, it's common sense things like, don't go to war without talking to all of us, protect alliance members if necessary, try to trade with alliance members, if an alliance member is starving drop your stuff and help them.

It's all nicely written, but it's not typed up and I'm leaving now.

See you all in three days. Don't do anything drastic without me.

[Black Mage]

See you all in three days. Don't do anything drastic without me.

I don't think you need to worry, most of us are still to weak to wage war.

[MarioRPG]

My 40 soldiers could take a nuclear-capable nation no problem. :roll:

[DarkOmenDKA]

My 40 soldiers could take a nuclear-capable nation no problem. :roll:

I'll throw in my 19 and we can do it together!

[Strike911]

See you all in three days. Don't do anything drastic without me.

I don't think you need to worry, most of us are still to weak to wage war.

But with our combined power we are unstoppable. Mwhahaha! okay, maybe not. but I have like 40 something troops, my friend has like 100 something. so between the four of us thats about 200 troops.

*blinks*

hehe, we should find some new weak country and all just go invade it. What exactly do you get from war? Are their any benefits other than completely devestating someone's nation?

[Nec5]

I know that there's a percentage chance (I think it's 10%) that you loot some of their technology and land.

[Black Mage]

We don't want to do anything too soon. There are a lot of people out there who are a lot stronger and in alliances a lot bigger than the OCA.

[Nec5]

We don't want to do anything too soon. There are a lot of people out there who are a lot stronger and in alliances a lot bigger than the OCA.You're just afraid of my 30 soldiers(two of which I deployed doing God knows what). :lol:

[kingbane]

i got 7 soldiers!

[MarioRPG]

hehe, we should find some new weak country and all just go invade it. What exactly do you get from war? Are their any benefits other than completely devestating someone's nation?
You get land and stuff.

Just be careful you don't attack someone in an alliance, heh.

[kitty]

Oh yeah!??! I have 1,200 soldiers! So take that! Nuclear war is fun. In the Great War, I sent out 4 nuclear missiles and got hit by 2. Joyous world!

EDIT: By the way...will the OCA be exclusive to OCR members? (I'm writing a sample charter to compare to supremespleen's when he gets back)

[MarioRPG]

I'm assuming it will be. Although that would limit the size...

EDIT: Time for my week long hiatus farewell.

[MaxFrost]

I just signed up..

Leader: MaxFrost
Country: Trelindari
Cap. City: Yotenka
Resources: Cattle, Wood (i'm on the freaking ocean too ><)

I'll give this a shot, looks intresting

[bones_221]

I'm assuming it will be. Although that would limit the size...

EDIT: Time for my week long hiatus farewell.

Farewell! We shall be less from your absence! Be not long with gracing our meaningless existence with your shining...text!

[kitty]

By the way...even though peace mode is nice and all...it really jacks up your economy later on. And don't get into any wars at this stage. It just sucks and stunts your growth since you can't steal anything but land. And land is pretty much just there to look pretty.

[MaxFrost]

yeah, i'm just in peace mode to start out with...I've been doing lots of reading, and don't plan on getting in a bunch of wars yet...

as for the land deal...I had to buy a bunch off the bat >< stupid starting population of 180ish

on the plus side, I was able to start out with a little more money then normal though. (yay for taxes ^_^)

now to work on getting my happyness lvl up

UPDATE: whoa...I took of peace mode and my happyness shot up 10 points, and my GOP shot up 20 bucks...mmm

methinks I'll stick with this

[Strike911]

i linked and got the bonus. I'm considering the donation thing... but meh, hell, I'll be honest, I probably won't donate, but I MIGHT.

[supremespleen]

I'm back.
I'll do the stuff for OCA later, I'm freaking tired.
It will be exclusive to OCR members, though people can certainly sign up here to join.

[Black Mage]

I'm back.
I'll do the stuff for OCA later, I'm freaking tired.
It will be exclusive to OCR members, though people can certainly sign up here to join.

Back so soon? I though you were going to be on vacation for two or three days?

[Nec5]

I'm back.
I'll do the stuff for OCA later, I'm freaking tired.
It will be exclusive to OCR members, though people can certainly sign up here to join.

Back so soon? I though you were going to be on vacation for two or three days?time warp

[Black Mage]

I'm back.
I'll do the stuff for OCA later, I'm freaking tired.
It will be exclusive to OCR members, though people can certainly sign up here to join.

Back so soon? I though you were going to be on vacation for two or three days?time warp

Or, as I believe we used to called it over at NationStates, "fluid time."
:wink:

[Corporal Eschebone]

Whoa, this thread grew since I last came in. I guess that means people are getting as absorbed in it as I an, eh?

Edit: Also, of interesting note is that when I went to select a location for my country, I put it in what I thought was the Faroe Islands but turned out to be the Shetland Islands. I feel like a moron. :)

Edit 2:

Lets go make Myspace accounts.

Seriously. (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_link.asp)
Woah. Sorry for double posting, but does this offer mean that EACH link will get the nation $10,000, 10 miles etc. Because if so, I could over $50,000 within a week.
Read the Link Offer Conditions. Also, you can't just start up a myspace or blog, it must already be well-established with regular traffic. Other than that, it's an excellent deal for new nations like us.

I might go the donation (http://www.cybernations.net/offer_donation.asp) route, however.

Define "regular traffic" - If I have, say, an LJ with 15 or so mutual friends, would that qualify or would I have to start a thread in General about it?

[Antelucan]

Define "regular traffic" - If I have, say, an LJ with 15 or so mutual friends, would that qualify or would I have to start a thread in General about it?
The offer uses the word "popular." I'm not sure what that means, but it's definitely worth a shot.

[CSmith]

Has anyone else started getting a lot of spam after signing up on CyberNations? My gmail account has been spammed a ton in the past few days with a lot of offers for ringtones and some "cheese cake factory" thing. :?

[AceofSpades704]

Has anyone else started getting a lot of spam after signing up on CyberNations? My gmail account has been spammed a ton in the past few days with a lot of offers for ringtones and some "cheese cake factory" thing. :?

I sure haven't.

[Nec5]

Has anyone else started getting a lot of spam after signing up on CyberNations? My gmail account has been spammed a ton in the past few days with a lot of offers for ringtones and some "cheese cake factory" thing. :?

I sure haven't.Me neither.

[Strike911]

putting a link in your myspace account worked for me.

I just made a blog entry and posted it.

oh and in other news,
THIS FUCKING GAME IS CONSUMING ME...

[kitty]

Has anyone else started getting a lot of spam after signing up on CyberNations? My gmail account has been spammed a ton in the past few days with a lot of offers for ringtones and some "cheese cake factory" thing. :?

Been playing for about 4 months and no additional spam that I've noticed.

[Corporal Eschebone]

You have been banned for not following the terms and conditions and rules of Cyber Nations.

I don't even know what the hell I did. :?


Edit: Actually, I think it might be because there's boobs on my LJ (http://corporal-esche.livejournal.com/). If so, then I'd say that's pretty lulz.

[supremespleen]

You have been banned for not following the terms and conditions and rules of Cyber Nations.

I don't even know what the hell I did. :?


Edit: Actually, I think it might be because there's boobs on my LJ (http://corporal-esche.livejournal.com/). If so, then I'd say that's pretty lulz.I'm pretty sure that is.

There was something in the fine print about using the link thing and that. Too bad.

[MaxFrost]

bah, some idiot attacked me yesterady...too bad for him, because as a nation that doesn't want war, all we have is a standing home army ^_^, that's all there

sucker

[supremespleen]

bah, some idiot attacked me yesterady...too bad for him, because as a nation that doesn't want war, all we have is a standing home army ^_^, that's all there

suckerTell us his name, and we can also go after him.

[Black Mage]

bah, some idiot attacked me yesterady...too bad for him, because as a nation that doesn't want war, all we have is a standing home army ^_^, that's all there

suckerTell us his name, and we can also go after him.

Indeed! I don't have any tanks yet, but I do have 82 soldiers ready to deploy.

[kitty]

You have been banned for not following the terms and conditions and rules of Cyber Nations.

I don't even know what the hell I did. :?


Edit: Actually, I think it might be because there's boobs on my LJ (http://corporal-esche.livejournal.com/). If so, then I'd say that's pretty lulz.

It might be a bug, which happens a lot. Or...if you made two nations, you get insta-banned for it. If you happened to do the latter, then go to the CN forums and request deletion of the second nation and an unban. Make sure to mention that you were unaware of the one nation limit.

[MaxFrost]

nah, don't need to retalite....evidently, when he lost after he attacked me, his state went into anarchy...it'd just be overkill...not to mention I tripled the number of soldiers I was employing after I got on today...it'll make people think twice about attacking me :P

EDIT: on second thought...smear him...I'll throw in my own troops as well.

his name is Prolaptacus

[Black Mage]

So should we attack to drive the point home? I've been curious to see how the war mechanics work on this game.

[supremespleen]

We attack him for attacking one of our own.

edit: Won't let me attack him. Sorry.

[Black Mage]

Won't let me attack him. Sorry.

Ditto, seems he's too low for me to attack.

[Corporal Eschebone]

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=16632

o ok

[kitty]

Just warn him that he's attacking the OCA and that full retaliation is in order if he doesn't cease attacks and pay reparations. Demand full damages + $5000 or be creamed from CN forever. Make him offer peace, then send you the stuff, then you accept peace.

[MaxFrost]

eh, that'd be a tad overkill...his nation is only 6 days old, compared to my 3 days...not only do I not even have 5k, but he's already shredded for some reason, hence why most of you guys can't attack him. He's still in a recovery state...however, I will warn him that if he attacks again, we will toast him

also, when he attacked me, I was still unaffliated with the OCA...now when people check me out, they know I'm allied with people.

as for damages...there weren't any...I actually made money off of his attack (a petty .94 ...stupid beginning game)

[kitty]

eh, that'd be a tad overkill...his nation is only 6 days old, compared to my 3 days...not only do I not even have 5k, but he's already shredded for some reason, hence why most of you guys can't attack him. He's still in a recovery state...however, I will warn him that if he attacks again, we will toast him

also, when he attacked me, I was still unaffliated with the OCA...now when people check me out, they know I'm allied with people.

as for damages...there weren't any...I actually made money off of his attack (a petty .94 ...stupid beginning game)

Hehe okay. Before this Great War, I've never been in a war before. I sat out of the Orange War and the Polar Wars. At least I'm out of anarchy and making some real money again. >_>

[supremespleen]

We shouldn't take crap from other players.

[MaxFrost]

no, we shouldn't...however, this is more of an annoyance then anything else. If I was getting zerged, I'd be more worried, but this was some lone idiot trying to take out a quickly growing newb nation. too bad I already have a better grasp of game mechanics then this dude did.

[bones_221]

Boo yeah. I just donated $12 to CN and am now rolling in my own filth. Take THAT, Space Coyote!!

Woot! I just dropped taxes by 4% and my happiness shot up over 20! Time to buy some soldiers...

[Nec5]

I'll send soldiers and cash via foreign aid if I can't declare war myself.

[Strike911]

what was the guy's name and nation name that attacked you?

[Black Mage]

what was the guy's name and nation name that attacked you?

Prolaptacus

[Airwalker]

Fun Game--good find.

My nation is named New Banana Republic. My name is airwalkery2k. And I am on the Orange team.

If anybody wants to open a trade agreement with me, I have Fish and Spice. (And everything nice.)

[D-Lux]

Misteo, the capital of Deluxia, has just been erectedi n the name of erections everywhere. I have rubber and wheat and have no idea what I'm doing.

[Antelucan]

Welcome new nations to the OverClocked Alliance! Here (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=3227) is the best place to learn more about the game workings.

Who is currently drafting an alliance charter, and how is it coming along?

[supremespleen]

Welcome new nations to the OverClocked Alliance! Here (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=3227) is the best place to learn more about the game workings.

Who is currently drafting an alliance charter, and how is it coming along?I have it all written on piece of paper. It's a matter of me scanning or typing it. Can't do it now, I'm about to go to bed. I'll have it tomorrow though. [:]

[Nec5]

The parties herein agree to the rules consistent with and constituent of all aforementioned agreements notwithstanding non-binding agreements within prior negotiations and mediations. All in favor? :lol:

[Jarvi]

ok so I'm nearing 5k income (gonna hit like 4.3k today) and I was wondering, how important is technology? Should I keep buying infrastructure for a while, or pick up some tech? Well thanks to any vets (or new people who know what they are doing) who can help me.

[Antelucan]

ok so I'm nearing 5k income (gonna hit like 4.3k today) and I was wondering, how important is technology? Should I keep buying infrastructure for a while, or pick up some tech? Well thanks to any vets (or new people who know what they are doing) who can help me.
Technology affects three things: happiness, battle outcomes, and nation strength. If you have 0 tech then you lose 1 happiness, but you increasingly gain happiness for tech that is over 0.5. Battle outcomes are generated randomly, but are influenced by your technology. With a higher tech, you generally get more kills per unit military (infantry, tanks, and cruise missles). You also need 10 tech to get nuclear weapons. Technology has a large affect on the nation strength calculation.

My advice is to buy some tech to get your nation out of the caves (and your literacy to something reasonable) if you don't have any yet. It may give you an edge in any battles you fight. It doesn't take much tech to satisfy a new nation, but having none is really detrimental all around.

[Black Mage]

I just started saving for tech enhancements a few days ago. Do you hav eto buy a full lever at once, or can you buy fractions of a level?

[Antelucan]

I just started saving for tech enhancements a few days ago. Do you hav eto buy a full lever at once, or can you buy fractions of a level?
You can buy in fractions, just like with infrastructure.

[Black Mage]

I just started saving for tech enhancements a few days ago. Do you hav eto buy a full lever at once, or can you buy fractions of a level?
You can buy in fractions, just like with infrastructure.

Ah, good. In that case I can buy up to half a level within the next week.

[Nec5]

I just started saving for tech enhancements a few days ago. Do you hav eto buy a full lever at once, or can you buy fractions of a level?
You can buy in fractions, just like with infrastructure.

Ah, good. In that case I can buy up to half a level within the next week.I was reading around in the forums and most of the veterans claim that you should save up to buy technology in one level increments. It has something to do with the cost of technology going up after each purchase.

[Antelucan]

I was reading around in the forums and most of the veterans claim that you should save up to buy technology in one level increments. It has something to do with the cost of technology going up after each purchase.
I believe this is because the price of tech goes up with each integer increase in tech level. So if you have 7.5 tech and you buy 1 tech you will pay the 7-8 level price for all of it, which costs less, for example, than buying 0.5 tech at the 7-8 price and 0.5 tech again at the (higher) 8-9 price.

So really, the most ideal (but not at all practical) situation would be to make one single investment in all the technology you ever plan to use because it would cost you exactly $10,000 times the number of levels you buy.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

EDITed for :) .

[Nec5]

I was reading around in the forums and most of the veterans claim that you should save up to buy technology in one level increments. It has something to do with the cost of technology going up after each purchase.
I believe this is because the price of tech goes up with each integer increase in tech level. So if you have 7.5 tech and you buy 1 tech you will pay the 7-8 level price for all of it, which costs less, for example, than buying 0.5 tech at the 7-8 price and 0.5 tech again at the (higher) 8-9 price.

So really, the most ideal (but not at all practical) situation would be to make one single investment in all the technology you ever plan to use because it would cost you exactly $10,000 for the number of levels you buy.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.That sounds about right. As people get higher levels of technology, the cost will rise. You can use foreign aid with friendly countries to purchase their technology at a reduced rate, but it's a somewhat lengthy process. I don't think any of us are at that point yet, but it's an option.

[kitty]

Don't buy technology until you make $10k a day. You'll need to keep pumping infrastructure for awhile before moving onto getting technology.

[Black Mage]

Don't buy technology until you make $10k a day. You'll need to keep pumping infrastructure for awhile before moving onto getting technology.

Can do.

[bones_221]

How quickly does the population increase (with area and infrastructure factored in, I assume)?

[Antelucan]

How quickly does the population increase (with area and infrastructure factored in, I assume)?
I believe population depends entirely upon infrastructure. The more infrastructure you have, the more people your nation can accommodate. I'm not sure of the precise relationship, however.

[bones_221]

Does anyone know to where I can look (which thread on the forums, basically) which talks about pop. growth? The only thing I've seen is "the more infrastructure, the quicker the growth." Nothing specific.

[EdgeCrusher]

My nation is Davidian, orange team.

[Black Mage]

My nation is Davidian, orange team.

http://www.raptureready.com/photo/grave/david_koresh2.jpg

[bones_221]

That's the EXACT image I had in my head when he mentioned his nation name.

(I see some bad PR for our alliance when word of this gets out...)

[Antelucan]

Does anyone know to where I can look (which thread on the forums, basically) which talks about pop. growth? The only thing I've seen is "the more infrastructure, the quicker the growth." Nothing specific.
A nation usually gains from 7 - 10 people per infrastructure point
Also see the discussion in this thread (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=25&st=0). Infrastructure is the only thing at this time that affects your population, so pump your funds into infrastructure!

[kitty]

Poor environment actually makes you lose some citizens so keep that up. Although since the world is currently glowing a bright green from nukes I wouldn't worry about it so much.

[Black Advent]

Looks fun. I'm in. Orange team.

R: BlackPriest
N: BlackAdvent
T: Cattle and Rubber

[supremespleen]

Abridged OCRA Code
Article 1: Trade
If possible, I will trade with members of the OCRA.
If someone in the OCRA is in need of food or other items due to starvation or I will sacrifice my nations happiness for a short time to assist them. I am not required to do this if it will severely hurt my nation.

Article 2: War
I will not declare war without discussing it with my alliance members.
If one of the OCRA members is under attack, I agree to assist them.

Uhh, what else do we need?

[Black Mage]

Poor environment actually makes you lose some citizens so keep that up. Although since the world is currently glowing a bright green from nukes I wouldn't worry about it so much.

Heh, mine is at 1.5 stars.

[bones_221]

Abridged OCRA Code
Article 1: Trade
If possible, I will trade with members of the OCRA.
If someone in the OCRA is in need of food or other items due to starvation or I will sacrifice my nations happiness for a short time to assist them. I am not required to do this if it will severely hurt my nation.

Article 2: War
I will not declare war without discussing it with my alliance members.
If one of the OCRA members is under attack, I agree to assist them.

Uhh, what else do we need?

I dunno, it seems good to me. Maybe something saying we won't sell out members of our alliance for membership in another or money or anything else. Some kind of "Anti Benedict Arnold" clause. If said clause is violated, they forfeit any claims they had to any benefits of being in the OCRA (obviously), and become the immediate enemy of the OCRA, subjecting themselves to immediate annihilation (if they haven't yet become a member of another alliance, of course).

That's my only suggestion. Falchion, can you make any?

[supremespleen]

Bones, that is a wicked good idea.

[The Womb]

Okay 2 questions
1 question What is a modern day middle eastern religon that focus' on monotheism
its not judaism or Islam (Christianity was my first religon so it's not that either)
2.) I was trading for gems and then the guy pulled out
but my happeness dropped from almost 20 to 10 X_X
what happened?

[kitty]

EDIT: Things in red are important. Pretty much I highlighted only one thing. Make sure to read the full thing and put your suggestions for some of the numbers I left blank.

Article I: Concerning Membership
The Overclocked Alliance (OCA) is open only to registered members of the forums located at www.ocremix.org. By joining nations claim that they are not part of any other alliance. Any nation found in violation of this claim is subject to attack by the OCA. Any nation resigning from the OCA must provide a resignation letter to the current leader via public forums. Once a nation has left the OCA, that nation's protections and rights supplied by the OCA are revoked.

Article II: The General Body
The General Body is made up of any non-office holding nation. Any nation belonging to the General Body is equal to every other nation. The General Body nominates and elects nations to various positions of power.

Article III: President
The President of the OCA holds a term of one month. This position is available only through election by the the General Body. The President is and should be recognized as the leader of the OCA. The President is expected to make OCA announcements and decisions to the world as needed. The President has one vote in both the Alliance and War branches of the government. The President will review all expulsion and resignation issues. In the event of a vacated Alliance and/or War Branch seat, the President will appoint a replacement nation to fill the vacated seat.

Article IV: Relations with Foreign Alliances
The Alliance Branch of the OCA is concerned with improving relations with other alliances. This Branch is made up of a council of [insert number here] nations. All seats in this council are elected from the General Body. One term is equal to one month. A nation may NOT hold a seat in both the Alliance and War Branch simultaneously. The Alliance Branch reports to the President about relations with foreign alliances and should provide advise in certain situations to the President.

Article V: War
The War Branch of the OCA is concerned with the survival of the OCA physically, whether during peace or war. The War Branch is made up of a council of [insert number here] nations. All seats in this council are elected from the General Body. One term is equal to one month. A nation may NOT hold a seat in both the Alliance and War Branch simultaneously. The War Branch reports to the President advising him/her about the status of the OCA during times of war.

Article VI: Concerning Expulsion
Any nation may be expulsed by the General Body. However, a voting period of no less than 48 hours will be submitted to the General Body to expulse the nation in question. Should the vote reach [insert percentage here] when the poll is closed, the nation is expulsed from the nation.

[supremespleen]

Yours is great and detailed and all, but it seems a tad bit strong for what seems to be a fairly casual alliance.

[kitty]

Yours is great and detailed and all, but it seems a tad bit strong for what seems to be a fairly casual alliance.

If you're going to go public with the alliance, you need something to show you're no pushover so some stupid alliance (LUE) doesn't go and obliterate you. But whatever. Take it or leave it if you want. I just typed it up in like 10 minutes or so.

[bones_221]

I think it's pretty good. Just about everything in it was going to be unspoken agreements (unwritten laws, if you will) anyway, but getting it out in the open is better. If we were going to operate in that way anyway, it doesn't harm anyone in our alliance to have it written down.

The only thing I can see in Falchion's contract that I hadn't thought about (even though it actually makes up the bulk of his suggestion) were the alliance and war councils. But they really make sense. I assumed we'd have some sort of democratic or republican leadership (that's "democratic" as in every nation has an equal vote in all decision making processes, and "republican" as in the nations vote for some sort of senate which makes all decisions) but I hadn't considered two councils to handle two different sides of global interaction. Like I said, they really make sense.

If you're going to go public with the alliance, you need something to show you're no pushover so some stupid alliance...doesn't go and obliterate you.

Even with all our ages added together, we probably wouldn't be older than most powerful nations alone, regardless of other alliances. And our nations' powers probably wouldn't add up to much, either. If one of the main alliances wants to destroy us, they're going to whether or not we have a professional charter...

Edit: I just want everyone to know that I net $2,300 each day. And I found out that your pop. increases immediately upon purchasing infrastructure. I still don't know if it increases each day also, but I have watched it go up just after the last two times I bought infrastructure.

[kitty]

I think it's pretty good. Just about everything in it was going to be unspoken agreements (unwritten laws, if you will) anyway, but getting it out in the open is better. If we were going to operate in that way anyway, it doesn't harm anyone in our alliance to have it written down.

The only thing I can see in Falchion's contract that I hadn't thought about (even though it actually makes up the bulk of his suggestion) were the alliance and war councils. But they really make sense. I assumed we'd have some sort of democratic or republican leadership (that's "democratic" as in every nation has an equal vote in all decision making processes, and "republican" as in the nations vote for some sort of senate which makes all decisions) but I hadn't considered two councils to handle two different sides of global interaction. Like I said, they really make sense.

If you're going to go public with the alliance, you need something to show you're no pushover so some stupid alliance...doesn't go and obliterate you.

Even with all our ages added together, we probably wouldn't be older than most powerful nations alone, regardless of other alliances. And our nations' powers probably wouldn't add up to much, either. If one of the main alliances wants to destroy us, they're going to whether or not we have a professional charter...

You underestimate the power of world relations in this game. If we make allies (especially with a Mutual Defense Pact), even if we're weak, we're still something there. Besides, you guys will grow way big soon.

And the council system is pretty much stolen from the NPO charter methinks. I couldn't think of a better system than what we have. I just tweaked it a little bit with the president having a vote in both.

[Methiea]

hey, why not. count me in, the nation is Dantenia the capitol is K-town. We're based in The dominican republic. have wine and fish to trade.

[supremespleen]

Well, if we're all going to get killed if we don't have a pretty looking chartermajig, let's use Falchion's.

[Mi'kile]

Haven't posted in a while but I have been reading. I think the extended charter is very good but if there are some in the OCA (or OCRA?) that dont like bits of it or find it too constraining then there is no reason it cant be modified. Falchion has given us a good first draft to work off and I suggest we use it.

Anyway the other reason I posted is that somebody just attacked me. There I was innocently building up my nation for the past few days, possibly not concentrating on my mititary as much as I should have (I am a fairly peaceful nation), then a nation called "Craxus" attacked and killed all but 3 of my soldiers. My nation is in anarchy until the 8th and my income has droped from nearly 2k to 2 hundred.

I want vengance :evil:

[Antelucan]

Anyway the other reason I posted id that somebody just attacked me. There I was innocently building up my nation for the past few days, possibly not concentrating on my mititary as much as I should have (I am a fairly peaceful nation), then a nation called "Craxus" attacked and killed all but 3 of my soldiers. My nation is in anarchy until the 8th and my income has droped from nearly 2k to 2 hundred.
Are you guys still at war? If you need financial or military aid, give me some idea of how much you need, and I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: If you are still at war, you might want to change your DEFCON level to 1.

Also Falchion, that's a great charter draft for us to work with. Thanks for your help. I nominate Falchion as "Honorary Mentor" to the alliance (since he cannot be a member).

[Mi'kile]

Yes we're still at war. I'm split between my peace loving nature and my need to kick back at the person who attacked me.
Thanks for the offer of aid though if I send him a warning that I'm a member of the OCA and that I will receive help if he doesnt declare peace it might convince him to not attack again.
Possibly better to try the peaceful way first??(oo that hurt to say)

Is this possibly a little overboard on the theatrical side?

This is a warning from Mi'kile of Rubberduck.
My nation is a member of the OCA and though I am willing to over look your declaration of war if you continue your hostilities I will counterstike with the blessing and assistance of the OCA.

[supremespleen]

This is a warning from Mi'kile of Rubberduck.
My nation is a member of the OCA and though I am willing to over look your declaration of war if you continue your hostilities I will counterstike with the blessing and assistance of the OCA.Do it. We don't take crap.

[RocketSniper]

I'm not at war, but I have less than 100 citizens and bills are taking away half of my monies every day. It's kinda scary. I'm increasing my infrastructure, but it seems like that's pretty much all I can do at this point (I've got about 1.7).

I finally got my government to where my citizens like it (transitional, the hell?), but they are unhappy with my religion. Apparently they want to follow "divine scriptures"... Does this mean they're Judaists?

[Black Mage]

I'm not at war, but I have less than 100 citizens and bills are taking away half of my monies every day. It's kinda scary. I'm increasing my infrastructure, but it seems like that's pretty much all I can do at this point (I've got about 1.7).

I finally got my government to where my citizens like it (transitional, the hell?), but they are unhappy with my religion. Apparently they want to follow "divine scriptures"... Does this mean they're Judaists?

Yeah, the game seems slow at the get go, but speeds up as you play. I also have the same religion problem with my population. I think that means they want to be christian, or something...which I don't really want, but I may have to make it such so that they are happy.

edit: Okay...maybe they don't want christianity. Oh well, guess I'll change it again in a couple of days.

[Antelucan]

Apparently they want to follow "divine scriptures"... Does this mean they're Judaists?
Yes.

This is a warning from Mi'kile of Rubberduck.
My nation is a member of the OCA and though I am willing to over look your declaration of war if you continue your hostilities I will counterstike with the blessing and assistance of the OCA.
That sounds appropriate. If he hasn't declared peace yet, I'll send him a message of my own. :wink:

EDIT:To:Calchexus From:Cardinal Lustro 8/1/2006 8:00:41 AM Subject: Notice from the OCA

We have been notified of your nation's unprovoked attack on our member, Rubberduck. Rest assured, should you fail to declare peace immediately, we will direct our alliance to assist and defend the nation of Rubberduck in any and every way.

[Mi'kile]

Hehe, almost makes me feel sorry for him...almost.

Thanks again :D

[Antelucan]

Hehe, almost makes me feel sorry for him...almost.

Thanks again :D
Let us know if he ignores our warning and continues to attack, and I will immediately send troops.

[Black Mage]

Hehe, almost makes me feel sorry for him...almost.

Thanks again :D
Let us know if he ignores our warning and continues to attack, and I will immediately send troops.

Provided that he's not too low for me to attack, I'll send in troops as well.

edit: Cool, post #500.

[Antelucan]

Well he is too low for me to directly attack. What I meant is I would send troops in the form of foreign aid to help Mi'kile defend himself.

[Jarvi]

ya let us know if you need aid

EDIT: Offer of about 67 troops sent, I don't have any money to lend so its the best I can do.

[supremespleen]

Sent Mi. a foreign aid offer. Just a bit of cash, as I'm going to build up my military. I've also moved to DEFCON 4.

I believe we should standardize ourselves by calling us the OCA, as opposed to the OCRA.

We also need to elect a president.

I've also reg'd as an IF message board. I'll be working on it during the day today. (http://s6.invisionfree.com/OCA_Headquarters/) Perhaps once we determine who wants to run for president (I'd like to), we can hold our elections there.

[Corporal Eschebone]

I'm not at war, but I have less than 100 citizens and bills are taking away half of my monies every day. It's kinda scary. I'm increasing my infrastructure, but it seems like that's pretty much all I can do at this point (I've got about 1.7).

That's probably 'cause you spent all your starting funds on land, eh?

Also, you really need to start trading. I've been around for about the same length of time of you and I already have 111 nation strength while you only have 8, and I'm not even two miles wider than you are. All I've done differently is trade and focus on infrastructure.

It's a good idea to thoroughly read into the game mechanics if you want to be as efficient as possible (which has apparently helped me a ton).

I haven't gotten that $10,000 gift from IRON yet either, but I expect I'll get it within the week. I'm already making nearly $5k per tax collection anyway.

[Dyson]

Team: Orange
Nation: Dystopia
Leader: Dyson
Resources: Aluminium and Pigs

Woot! Registered on the OCA forums, too.

[supremespleen]

Working on setting the permission masks up right in the new forum. If you can't see much, it means I haven't upgraded your board status to OCA Member there.

[Mi'kile]

Thanks for all the aid and offers of aid from everyone, I'll let you know how things progress.

I'm not at war, but I have less than 100 citizens and bills are taking away half of my monies every day. It's kinda scary. I'm increasing my infrastructure, but it seems like that's pretty much all I can do at this point (I've got about 1.7).

Just had a qick look at your nation sheet and saw that you still have war as not an option. If you'd like to risk it then turn it off, it'll boost your nations happiness and your tax income