Xenogears: Humans + Gears - History

[Foxhull]

Welcome to the thread for Humans and Gears, a Xenogears Rearrangement Project. It is a collaboration of remixers to remix the Xenogears soundtrack.

Tracklist

Humans Disc
1)Foxhull - Memories of the World (June Mermaid) - (now very tentative, as I have to redo it completely due to a comp. wipe)
2)avaris - The Last Fatima (Aveh, the Ancient Dance)
3)POCKETMAN - The Liquid State (Fuse)
4)Jormungand - Faraway Promise
5)Geoffrey Taucer - The Treasure Which Cannot Be Stolen
6)Avaris/The Prophet of Mephisto - Awakening
7)Fishy - Echoes of the Wind (Shebat: The Wind is Calling)
8 )Vampire Hunter Dan - Ship of Emotion and Song (Flight, Emotions, The Ship of Regret and Sleep)
9)zikon - Tears of The Stars, Hearts of The People
10)ziwtra - Bonds of Sea And Fire
11)POCKETMAN - Take Flight (Wings)
12)Prometheus - CyberneticLove1.0 (Lost...Broken Shards)
13)CHIPP Damage - Tamasu Man of the Sea
14)RoeTaka - Knight of Fire
15)Jormungand - Forest of the Black Moon
16)RoeTaka - The Treasure Which Cannot Be Stolen
17)Prometheus - Welcome to the Human Race (Stage of Death)
18 )TheLeviathan - Shattering of the Dream Egg

Gears Disc
1)R3FORGED - Omen
2)about:blank - Dogma (One Who Bares Fangs at God)
3)Wintermute/Troy Lawlor - Binary Chain (Bonds of Sea and Fire)
4)avaris/Blue Magic - Defective (The One Who is Torn Apart)
5)E-Bison - ZenoParadox (The Light from the Netherworlds)
6)Siamey - Back to Sleep
7)Another Soundscape/avaris - Daijiru (Too Hot For Clothes) (Daijiru: City of Burning Sands)
8 )avaris/Nutritious/Sausage Ninja/OA - June Mermaid
9)ziwtra - Wings
10)Geoffrey Taucer & Friends - Omen Medley
11)Electric Concerto - The Wounded Shall Advance to the Light
12)Nutritious - Dreamscape (Leftovers of The Dreams of The Strong)
13)Tensei-San/DragonAvenger - Stars of Tears
14)The Vagrance - Invasion
15)nrich - Graaf, Emperor of Darkness

Done
Almost Done

Updated Available Tracks:

20 - In A Dark Sleep (possibly taken)
25 - The Blue Traveler
27 - The Jaws of Ice
31 - The Sky, The Clouds, And You
36 - Solaris: Eden of Heaven
39 - Pray For The People's Joy
43 - The Beginning And The End
44 - Small of Two Pieces ~ Broken Shards (Restored Pieces)
The Valley Where the Wind is Born

Project Leader-Foxhull
Co-coordinator-avaris

Instrumentalists and Vocalists
Tensei-San - Electric Guitar(8 years)
Foxhull - Flute(4 years), Electric Guitar, Acoustic Guitar, Piano
The Prophet of Mephisto - Saxophone
Geoffrey Taucer - Guitar, Piano, Irish Whistle
MagiNinjA - Violin, Clarinet
Fishy - Guitar
LuIzA - Guitar, Bass, Vocals, Drum Sequencing
Zolborn - Vocals
DragonAvenger - Vocals

Web Designer
ziwtra

Sig is here!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/swallace21/Sig-1.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/swallace21/Sig-1.jpg

Mini-Sig Courtesy of zikon!
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8838/xenogearssigla3.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8838/xenogearssigla3.jpg

[Jormungand]

I wanted to offer a more accuracte tracklist for anyone's interest: http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/index.php?catalog=SSCX-10013

[Foxhull]

my tracklist is from amazon but thanks, also, im working on getting some webspace for this(website)

[realpolitik]

this project is going to fail, fucking horribly.

you have NO cred.

NO star power.

you have numbers in your name ;)

you don't have any proven remixing skill.


this is destined to fail...

Pi whatev's is working because of an amazing concept.


you should post on the forums more, get a reputation before you go starting a full-scale project like this.

srsly.

[Foxhull]

all of which i am already working on rectifying

[realpolitik]

you have 10.fucking.posts.

come back when people actually know who you are :/

[Foxhull]

already, drama
i just have one request, please no swearing, its a religious thing
btw, if you do remixes, you are invited join if you want

[sephfire]

I hate to break it to you, but he's right. Until you have some level of notoriety around here, organizing a remix project is ill-advised, if not impossible. Besides which ...


If you wish to head up a Site Project, contact me via PM, and we can discuss your project and work out the details.

Unless you've already done that, chances are this thread will be locked down anyway. Don't get me wrong, a Xenogears remix project has plenty of potential, but unless you've gone through all the proper channels, it just isn't going to happen. If you haven't already, familiarize yourself with OCR's Site Project Guidelines (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=62594).

Good luck.

[Foxhull]

DarkeSword also wrote laterApproval to create a thread in ReQuests is no longer required. It's only creating a bottleneck.


I made sure to check that thread before i made this one. But thanks for the advice.

[sephfire]

I hadn't seen that update. Good to see you've done your homework.

Best of luck with getting the project started.

[avaris]

hey I sent you a PM about the project, if your gonna keep on doing the project I'd be really interested in doing a mix of the "Ave, The Ancient Dance." I got a great idea for how to mix it.

[ocremixfan]

I posted a request for a Xenogears project some time ago... (it seems it was lost in some kind of requests forum cleanup)
Too bad I'm not anything like a remixer... just a listener! :D
I was excited about the idea of a Xenogears project, but I guess that the guys around have a point about an unknown user creating a project like this.

Maybe you could pass the lead of the project to a veteran user that jump in...? :P

[avaris]

Yeah Im sure there has got to be one of the vets here who would be down with this, Xenogears is one of the most remixed songs on the site, and it deserves to be the OST is badass!

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

Off to a shaky start... but it's got just as much reason to succeed as any remix projects do.

Best of luck.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

While I love the Xenogears soundtrack, I really do not think you should not be the one to start it at this point. I don't mean to insult you or anything, but the better-known you are, the more star power you're going to get on this project. I'm sorry to say it, but you don't have the noteriety required to start a Xenogears project which would come anywhere close to doing the OST justice.

I really don't mean to insult you; I don't mean to suggest it's your fault that big-name remixers aren't going to rush to join this project, it's just a simple fact about the way projects generally work; if you aren't well-known, you won't get well-known mixers on your project. And Xenogears has a soundtrack which fully deserves to have top-calibur mixers if there is to be a project.

That said, if this project does get off the ground and if you can convince me that it will be any good, I'll talk to PriZm and the Prophet about redoing our old mix of "Gathering Stars" for possible inclusion in the project, if you're interested.

[V___]

That said, if this project does get off the ground and if you can convince me that it will be any good, I'll talk to PriZm and the Prophet about redoing our old mix of "Gathering Stars" for possible inclusion in the project, if you're interested.

After you record the guitar part for my TA: Forest mix :p

[Jormungand]

I really don't mean to insult you; I don't mean to suggest it's your fault that big-name remixers aren't going to rush to join this project, it's just a simple fact about the way projects generally work; if you aren't well-known, you won't get well-known mixers on your project. And Xenogears has a soundtrack which fully deserves to have top-calibur mixers if there is to be a project.
But this assumes that only well-known mixers are top-calibur mixers, yeah?

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I really don't mean to insult you; I don't mean to suggest it's your fault that big-name remixers aren't going to rush to join this project, it's just a simple fact about the way projects generally work; if you aren't well-known, you won't get well-known mixers on your project. And Xenogears has a soundtrack which fully deserves to have top-calibur mixers if there is to be a project.
But this assumes that only well-known mixers are top-calibur mixers, yeah?

I'm not saying that ONLY well-known mixers are top-calibur mixers, but let's be honest; those who are well-known and respected are generally well-known and respected for good reason. A project with mixes by a bunch of n00bs may very well have some good tracks on it, but if you want a project that's awesome accross the board -- and I think the Xenogears OST deserves this -- your best bet is to recruit remixers who have already proven themselves to be top-notch remixers.

Occasionally, we do get people who are brand new who can make kickass mixes. Christian Pacaud, sixto, and antisheep jump to mind; they came outta nowhere and produced fantastic mixes. But such people are rare, and the collossal majority of people who are good at remixing have gotten good because they've been around for awhile, and have thus become well-known.

In order to get good remixers on your project, we need to be able to know you well enough to trust you to run a good project. Around here, we don't know you at all. Again, I don't mean to be rude, and I'm sorry if it seems like I'm trying to shoot you down, I'm just pointing out the facts of the situation.

[sephfire]

Taucer is saying what I was trying to communicate, just far better than I did.

[Dhsu]

Hey, look what I found! (http://www.oneupstudios.com/albums.php?show=6)

That aside, am I the only person who thinks it's kinda redundant to have a project for a game that already has plenty of exposure on OCR? If you're going to do that, I think you should at least have an original concept or theme besides "let's remix the entire soundtrack." Chrono Symphonic is a good example of this.

Speaking of which, maybe try a Chrono Cross project instead. I'd definitely participate in that one. ;)

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Speaking of which, maybe try a Chrono Cross project instead. I'd definitely participate in that one. ;)

Funny you should mention that...

[Txai]

this is the best thread of the internet.

[avaris]

I had a crazy idea I pm'ed rpggamer about, since alot you guys seem to be talking about this thread I think maybe I'll share my idea with everyone and see what kinda response it gets.
The prospects of this working sounds really nice, but actually getting it to work will be very hard.
I agree we might need a better idea than to just remix the whole album, and Taucer was saying all the stuff about noobs mixing and vets mixing, which I agree with.
My idea would to have a Xenogears vs Xenogears project. Each song would be remixed twice. One remixer would have to have 2 or more songs on OCR, and the other would have to have 1 or less. Vet vs Noob. This would create internal competition, bc someone like Taucer or sephfire defiantly wouldn't want to get bested by a noob. While a noob like myself, would relish the chance to be able to try and top a well-known mixer. I would work my ass off to be able to do that. Obviously the noobs would have to be top quality like antisheep or some others.
At the end of the project there could be some kind of vote off for each source song to see who mixed it better the vet or the noob. You also do the remix in two styles also. I like the vet vs noob idea better though(kinda biased bc im a noob in this community).
This is a very "unique" way to do a project, this is just a random idea that I thought up of, and I was curious to see what the response is on it? Some of your opinions so far, on u gotta have some vets on this, and there needs to be a unique project theme for it, kinda lead me to conjure up this idea.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

It's a unique idea, but one I very strongly oppose.

For one, projects always have enough drama without intentionally inserting more competition.

For another, which mix is "best" is completely subjective. Your idea is more or less a series of project-endorsed "favorites" threads.

For a third, covering each track twice would be too big a project; if you've followed other projects, you'll know that it's a huge undertaking as-is; if you take that and all-out double it, it's never gonna see the light of day.

For a fourth, n00bs of antisheep's calibur are in extremely short supply; what would most likely happen is that the veteran would win on almost every single vote, and I think some n00bs would find that discouraging.

I think it would be a far better idea for each veteran on the project to choose a n00b to collab with, take under his/her wing so to speak, and the two produce one track together.

However, as one who has done many collabs, including some collabs with n00bs that never saw the light of day, I can tell you that this would be a logistical nightmare as well, and I can't say I'd throw much support behind that either.

[sephfire]

Taucer's second concept could be interesting to see someday.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

The thing is, we would still have to chose among n00bs who are decently skilled, and can demonstrate the fact.

It would be completely doable, but I think we would have to have, rather than complete n00bs, people who have already demonstrated their mixing abilities, but have not gotten posted yet. SirRus, Ellywu, LAOS, kung-fu chicken, etc.

If we could gather enough interest among both the necessary n00bs and veterans, it could work really well, though, I think.

In fact, I may even run the idea by Brad for our upcomming proj -- OSHITS!

[Foxhull]

i was developing avaris's idea about the face off, but i was thinking more in the terms of a "Human" disc, and a "Gear" disc. There would be no repeats of tracks, but instead every choice would have to be different, and depending on how the style's would fit together, they would be placed on the Human disc or Gear disc, in sort of a story-ish perspective. Or the Human disc could be single remixer tracks, and the Gear disc(get ready for a metaphor) would be all collabs, sort of like a pilot(n00b) and the Gear(Vet).

[avaris]

yeah something like this can only be doable if enough people step forward and wanna take it on(even if it's saying they agree with the idea and wanna take on a mix), if that happens great im psyched. I'm up for coordinating and doing other kinds of communication work (it's my job, im a conference and meeting planner, this is like a daily thing for me)
But if not enough people step up...back to the drawing board, we'll have to see what rpggamer180 thinks before we do anything bc it's his project first.

[Foxhull]

i just put another sig, this one is much better, and the old one will be edited to have the actual font and a few other tweaks
as soon as enough people join, the "Recruiting Now" will also be taken off of both
also, i was thinking of a vote on a favorite concept, and it would a private vote sort of, PM me with your choice and the tally would be posted at the end of the voting period

[Geoffrey Taucer]

also, i was thinking of a vote on a favorite concept, and it would a private vote sort of, PM me with your choice and the tally would be posted at the end of the voting period

Even if it's a private vote, I would very strongly oppose the idea.

[Foxhull]

alright i talked it over with a few people and the disc of collabs and the disc of individuals was thought to be to restrictive, and the story disc could work with some work on the concept

[avaris]

i'm with ya there, now to develop the concept hmm...

[prophetik music]

While I love the Xenogears soundtrack, I really do not think you should not be the one to start it at this point. I don't mean to insult you or anything, but the better-known you are, the more star power you're going to get on this project. I'm sorry to say it, but you don't have the noteriety required to start a Xenogears project which would come anywhere close to doing the OST justice.

I really don't mean to insult you; I don't mean to suggest it's your fault that big-name remixers aren't going to rush to join this project, it's just a simple fact about the way projects generally work; if you aren't well-known, you won't get well-known mixers on your project. And Xenogears has a soundtrack which fully deserves to have top-calibur mixers if there is to be a project.

look at the ff7 project for more examples of this.

that said, i'll record sax for someone if they need it. i will NOT do a remix, though. i won't have time. best of luck, though.

[Foxhull]

thanks for the offer, im starting to get some pms from others who are interested, but there are still plenty of openings left.

[Arek the Absolute]

bad timing for yet another project
imo fyi nfp
plus taucer is right
you aren't well known enough for this shiz
no offence homie g dawwwwg

[Dhsu]

bad timing for yet another project
lolz
look who's talking

[Arek the Absolute]

bad timing for yet another project
lolz
look who's talking
i no rite?

[Foxhull]

I've received another pm from an interested remixer, and avaris is officially now Co-coordinator.
EDIT: Tensei-San is officially in the project, though the song choice has yet to be made.

[SkyeWelse]

Just wanted to say that I hope your project does well.
I'm pretty new here to the community myself and while I can kind of understand what people are saying in that if you haven't already spent the time to receive reputation for being a "well-known" member, that should not discourage you from at least trying this thing out and seeing it through. I personally think it is silly for someone to say that only a successful remixing project can come from someone who has gone through the correct and proper channels of gaining reputation from the community. Sure it helps, but that doesn't mean a project is destined to be a failure.

Even if you don't receive a great deal of support from "well-known" members or remixers, this is every bit a fun project that perhaps those who are not as well known can try out for. Sure people can make the claim that you shouldn't make it because "Xenogears deserves an impressive remix for it's impressive soundtrack", but if no one who has already proven themselves as a skilled remixer wants any part of the project, then what is the point of that logic? If they care enough about the music of Xenogears enough and do not like the results of your project, then they can always organize another Xenogears project. That's the beauty of Mitsuda's work, it can be remixed countless times yet sound vastly different each time you hear it.

Anyhow, good luck to you and I'll look forward to listening to this album.

-SkyeWelse

[avaris]

We are now in the process of starting to come up with different web design ideas and furthering the concept for this project. More remixers are starting to show interest. If you are interested in web design let us know.

OK, the next bit is an idea I came up with off of using a storyboard idea. Obviously I left out some of the more intricate details (the basis for explaining this idea is long enough no need to bother everyone with details) While Foxhull and I will be talking through PM's in further detail about the idea, we would like to get other ocr members thoughts, opinions, and possible cooperation in this grand scheme.

As far as the concept, an alternative that I have come up with would be to almost do a mini-project, which still might seem similar to a large project. Just take 5-8 source tunes, and set them up almost as a story board. It would almost be like one giant 20-25min mix involving all those various source tunes. All music has feeling and conveys some sort of emotion, with it organized correctly you could tell a story. Composers of way back when, used to do this. They would combine 4-5 songs into one gigantic piece. While individuals would have control over their own mixes, they would have to adhere to certain styles and ideas. But once remixers have chosen their source tunes, and explained what they wish to do with them, the different mixes would be organized in such a way to convey the storyboard concept. There are benefits and consequences to this idea.

The benefits would be: less artists needed, more collaboration and teamwork amongst those involved (which will aid in the overall mix becoming better) and everyone would have a much more hands on approach, it will give mixers with individual talents like (pianists, guitarists, vocalists, drummers) to use their talents in several parts instead of just a few, an idea like this has never been done before at ocr and if it is completed could provide for something very unique, it would give a chance to some mixers to truly create something more than just your standard remix.

The negatives would be: style restrictions, teamwork problems could arise depending on personnel and direction of where to take the mix, technical problems depending on what programs/methods people use to mix

If enough people are interested in this idea, we could do two large mixes. Each would be in a different style. This would be ideal in keeping with the Human vs Gear idea.
For example: The Human mix would involve more natural sounding rhythms, instruments, and basic musical ideas. The Gear mix would involve more industrial synth likes sounds, unconventional ideas, harder rhythms, etc... You get the idea.
The Human mix would be as if Scott Peeples did it. And the Gear mix would be as if Children of the Monkey Machine did it.

This idea will allow individuals to create there own arrangements, while flexing their individual musical muscle in helping others. If part of the song needs some guitar, the guitarist can work with the arranger in creating an awesome guitar piece for that part of the song. An idea like this can only be accomplished with an incredible soundtrack, and after playing the game and listening through all the source, this idea is defiantly doable.

[The Vagrance]

We are now in the process of starting to come up with different web design ideas and furthering the concept for this project. More remixers are starting to show interest. If you are interested in web design let us know.

OK, the next bit is an idea I came up with off of using a storyboard idea. Obviously I left out some of the more intricate details (the basis for explaining this idea is long enough no need to bother everyone with details) While Foxhull and I will be talking through PM's in further detail about the idea, we would like to get other ocr members thoughts, opinions, and possible cooperation in this grand scheme.

As far as the concept, an alternative that I have come up with would be to almost do a mini-project, which still might seem similar to a large project. Just take 5-8 source tunes, and set them up almost as a story board. It would almost be like one giant 20-25min mix involving all those various source tunes. All music has feeling and conveys some sort of emotion, with it organized correctly you could tell a story. Composers of way back when, used to do this. They would combine 4-5 songs into one gigantic piece. While individuals would have control over their own mixes, they would have to adhere to certain styles and ideas. But once remixers have chosen their source tunes, and explained what they wish to do with them, the different mixes would be organized in such a way to convey the storyboard concept. There are benefits and consequences to this idea.

The benefits would be: less artists needed, more collaboration and teamwork amongst those involved (which will aid in the overall mix becoming better) and everyone would have a much more hands on approach, it will give mixers with individual talents like (pianists, guitarists, vocalists, drummers) to use their talents in several parts instead of just a few, an idea like this has never been done before at ocr and if it is completed could provide for something very unique, it would give a chance to some mixers to truly create something more than just your standard remix.

The negatives would be: style restrictions, teamwork problems could arise depending on personnel and direction of where to take the mix, technical problems depending on what programs/methods people use to mix

If enough people are interested in this idea, we could do two large mixes. Each would be in a different style. This would be ideal in keeping with the Human vs Gear idea.
For example: The Human mix would involve more natural sounding rhythms, instruments, and basic musical ideas. The Gear mix would involve more industrial synth likes sounds, unconventional ideas, harder rhythms, etc... You get the idea.
The Human mix would be as if Scott Peeples did it. And the Gear mix would be as if Children of the Monkey Machine did it.

This idea will allow individuals to create there own arrangements, while flexing their individual musical muscle in helping others. If part of the song needs some guitar, the guitarist can work with the arranger in creating an awesome guitar piece for that part of the song. An idea like this can only be accomplished with an incredible soundtrack, and after playing the game and listening through all the source, this idea is defiantly doable.

Great idea in theory, but then again communism sounds great in theory too :/. In the end it'd be a complete mess because:
A. You'd have to keep passing around the project in a circle and little work would get done because you'd have to wait until the project came back around again before you could work on it.

B. With all of those people collaborating, you're going to have serious clashing between styles and creativity and what one person may be trying to do the next person may tear apart.

However, if you do plan on doing something similar to that, what you could do is make everyone do a remix with some kind of beat (whether its fast or slow). then when everyone's done with their mix, you would collect the .wav files for each track (not the entire song but each individual part, it'd require a lot of hard drive spacfe) then you could whip some different parts up into Ableton live and create a megamix using elements from everyone's mix into a huge 70-minute bash, that way everyone's work would be included, whether its the main beat, a bassline, whatever and it'd be more suited to listening from front-to-back. Also, whenever thats done, you could release each mix individually, that way you'd get each piece of the story, then the entire thing mixed together which would be entirely different from everything else because of all of the melodies included. I'm trying to learn Ableton Live but I'd be more than willing to mix everything together into a huge mix if thats what you want to do. If I'm not being clear enough then PM me and I'll try to explain it better and cite some examples of what I'm talking about.

[avaris]

Yeah there are def possible pitfalls, but the benefits from the same process could be enormous. Hmm, that last comment leaves me open for another communist joke, oh boy

Doomsday, the idea with Ableton Live sounds great almost too good. I was thinking along those lines, to have everyone do their own mix with a few resctrictions and then put them together in a large storyboard "70-minute bash" mix. I haven't heard of the program before, but if you can do with it what u are saying that'd be pretty ideal. Yeah I was hoping each mix could stand on it's own, while at the same time be combined into the storyboard format. Your idea still adheres to the concept but it sounds like it would be more doable, and easier to manage.

If by any chance, you can throw together a simple demo or sample using the program that'd be great. Just take 3-4 simple melodies/rythms and run through the program for like a really short example, that'd be fine. The concept is in what you could say a "WIP" stage, but with ideas like yours we could create something much more concrete and something this community hasn't seen before.

[The Vagrance]

Alright, I'll whip up a little demo for you guys, if you want to hear it at some of its' full potential go to www.themixingbowl.org and search for Sasha, pretty much everything 2005-2006 of his DJ sets were done in Ableton Live. His 2005 Essential Mix was voted the best essential mix and I highly reccomend you check it out.

[The Vagrance]

Ok, I whipped up a very, very simple and cheap demo in half-an-hour, and obviously I'd put more effort and exponentially more time into this if you guys do decide to go this route, but this is just me playing out with loops I exported myself from 4 of my songs:

www.thevagrance.com/music/doodles/abletondemo.mp3

The songs I sampled from:
www.thevagrance.com/music/wip/why.mp3 (A pad comes from it)
www.thevagrance.com/music/vgremixes/dkc2remix.mp3 (Bass and some drums come from that)
www.thevagrance.com/music/wip/crystalclear.mp3 (beginning pad, drums, and hats come from that)
www.thevagrance.com/music/wip/reccej.mp3 (Reece and thunder come from that).

P.S. - Just checked the link and I exported about an eighth of what I actually made :(. I would re-do it but I got school work to do, you can still here all 4 songs being mashed up at that particular point though.

[avaris]

the mixing bowl webpage, has hit max users, so i'll have to wait till another user account expires before i can go in there and check out the guys work. I'll try to find some of his work through other sources.

Listened to ur demo, and as just a basis of listening to how the different aspects of the songs are incorporated it seems like a pretty impressive progam. This would def be something we could do, I haven't talked with rpggamer180(foxhull) yet, but im sure he'll be listening to this and deciding what to do.

What kind of similar styles, instruments, tempos, scales, chords etc.. would need to be followed if we were to use this program to create the super mix?

Doing a super mix would also allow people to contribute a solo guitar/piano/vocal piece for the super mix off of just a say one melody, or use one of the shorter source tunes without having to create and arrange an entire piece.

If we did the Human vs Gear idea that i stated before, would you be willing to put together a super mix for each? I'm sure you could put together a great mix, all of ur stuff in the wip has been really good.

In my opinion if we used this program to create the "storyboard/super mix" it would allow the individual remixers more freedom with their own mixes than my original idea would, and in the end we would still create the same kind of storyboard mix, and also keep with the Human vs Gear concept. This is sweet.

[The Vagrance]

Basically, how Ableton works is its a loop based sequencer. Its unlike any other sequencer out there and you won't understand it fully unless you try it for yourself but the best way I can describe it is its kinda like what FLStudio is for MIDI, Ableton Live is for Audio, only x10, and it supports MIDI too. If you were to do a mix, it'd take a very long time to make as there'd have to be a lot of planning involved and if I were to do it alone it'd take at least a month if I did it properly assuming I only worked on that mix without working on anything else. My idea would've been to have every artist export a .wav file of every sequencer track in their song (for example, there'd be a wav of just the drums, then another of just a pad, etc.) and send it to whoever does the mix. Then, the mixer chooses which samples to use and scrap and cuts the samples to his/her bidding to fit the mix before throwing it all together. For example, on my little demo, what you can here are one of the drums from my DKC2 remix, the bassline is also from the DKC2 remix, the reece (distorted bass) is from the Reccej build-up, the hats are from Crystal Clear, and the pad is from Why. Basically you'd just piece together the entire mix instrument by instrument. Of course, in doing this some parts may get cut out and some songs won't have "lead roles" so to say in that they won't ever take over the melody, which is why it's also be wise to release everything individually.

As for what I'd need to do this, it'd make things sound a lot better and cleaner if there was a certain BPM restriction like 75-90BPM & 150-180BPM so things wouldn't have to be timestretched too much (but then again that might be too wide of a BPM range). Similar styles would make transitions a lot better and cleaner as well but you shouldn't have all one style because then it gets boring quickly, but on the other hand trying to go immediately from a happy track to a sad track comes off wierd, so as long as there's plenty of different "shades" of song so to speak, it'd be great. As for chords and stuff, it makes things a lot easier if its all C major or something but once again, it comes across as boring. All of the songs that I used in the demo are in different keys, but its all about using the parts creatively and if need be, chopping the parts up to make 'em fit.

This idea is kind of an extension of what you were going for, only yours reminded me more of like, a live performance set-up whereas mine is more like a DJ mix on steroids. I'd be more than willing to do this but if I do, it's going to take a LOT of time, then again, site projects aren't known for their swiftness.

[Foxhull]

to go along with that have sort of the live set up album, but also an Ableton Live album, like all the original remixes remixed into a dj album and have both distributed

[avaris]

Doomsday: WOW, it can do that to wav files, i have seriously wondered if there was ever a program that could do that. I could easily wait a month or longer, for you to use that program to create a super mix.

Keeping all the mixes in the same chord would be boring after a while, and too restrictive especially if the source is based off of some crazy structure. I think the tempo range is a must. Using similar instruments is also a good idea.

rpggamer180: I'm down with the two album idea. So the first one would include all of the remixes. And the 2nd one, the Ableton Live one, would be the giant mix of all of em.
Would we adhere to one style, or still do the Human vs Gear idea and have two different set of remixes and two large mixes from the 2 corresponding sets of mixes? Of course trying to do the two different styles would depend on if enough remixers who sign up want to do one style and enough want to do the other.

[Arek the Absolute]

Just a FYI, your recruiting sigs are big and nothing but an eyesore. Make em smaller and less white :D
Note, that is just my opinion. It may or may not be similar to yours.

[POCKETMAN]

How do we get on this, audtion?

[avaris]

yeah just send myself and rpggamer180 (foxhull) a pm with some of your work, or link to where we can find some. If you are submiting something that is a WIP for you, just note that it's a WIP. If you are interested in any other aspects of the project please let us know.

[Foxhull]

im currently reviewing your work pocketman, and avaris, i was still thinking of doing the Humans and Gears, but with the super mix i was thinking of doing individual super mixes of each song, not a 25-70 min mix of every song, because personally, i wouldn't be able to listen to a 70 minute mix without skipping to other parts of the mix, cause that what im understanding of your idea right now, if thats not what you mean, try to explain it a little clearer, but its still a good idea
EDIT: Pocketman is in.

[avaris]

My idea would be to to take all the remixes, and use Ableton Live to takes different pieces from each mix and put them all together in one large mix.

I do agree with your point about the pitfalls of a very long mix, I prob envisioned it being around 25-35 minutes.

Now to do a super mix of each individual mix would seem redundant. Example: Say we have 20 finished remixes. Your saying we would use Ableton Live to remix each of those individual remixes, and end up with 20 other mixes? So for instance, I finish my 'Aveh, the Last Dance' mix you would want to use Ableton Live to remix my mix into a different version, without any new melodies or rhythms from the other remixes?

I propose; in an attempt to use Ableton Live to create shorter mixes, say 5-15 mins. We would use 3-4 mixes(whatever the#), and some individual pieces the instrumentalists and vocalists create, that are similar in style and tempo, and use Ableton Live to create a 5-15 mix using the different rhythms, melodies, harmonies from these similar pieces. In turn this would mean we would end up with more super mixes, but each of the would only be 5-15 mins. This would allow us to be less restrictive on styles and instrumentations, and allow the remixers more freedom to do what they want.

Of course Doomsday would have to be willing to do the 4-5(whatever # it ends of being) super mixes (5-15 mins). Doomsday feel free to jump in and comment anytime, your ideas have been great so far.

[The Vagrance]

It probably wouldn't take me too long to do like, 5 minute mixes and stuff, definately not a month but truth be told they're a lot harder to do. What I was picturing was like, two epic, 60 minute mixes, one for Gears, one for Humans. Whatever you want, I'll check back in tomorrow though, I gots school to do.

[POCKETMAN]

Can I take Fuse?

[Foxhull]

go ahead, and yeah, we'll have to work it out

[ocremixfan]

epic mixes... it doesn't sounds good!
I have many mixes in my playlist because I like some parts of it... very few mixes I like entirely... and for sure it's impossible for such a huge mix to be interesting throughout, and I'll not listen a 30 min mix just to hear a 2-4 min section that I like!

I'm still afraid about the outcome of this project... but I hope it flows nicely!

[avaris]

yeah that's prob why were gonna try and go the 5-15min route. We would not take every little aspect of each mix to do the super mixes. We would prob take the best parts and aspects of 4-5 mixes and mix those parts together in a 5-15 minute mix. And do that multiple times depending on what various styles the remixers choose to do.

[Foxhull]

I'll be on vacation Thursday morning to Sunday(maybe Tuesday, at the latest). if i can, i will be on, if not, avaris is in charge. Just so you are warned ahead of time.
Oh, and i just got Ableton Live, and im gonna work on learning it of the weekend
also, im going to continue remixing

[avaris]

Just a quick update, FYI we are redesigning the sigs. And they rejoiced YAAAY. (monty python reference)
And also I'll have a real basic description of the concept up soon too. No more speculation, this will be an outline we will go from.

[POCKETMAN]

I hate to say it. But you guys might have to be will ing to give up your positions to higher ranked remixers. Let someone else run the project. If you had someone like: Sephfire or Rexy running this, it would be getting better results.

[avaris]

I def agree, my main thing is I want the project to succeed. If a more senior member became one of the leaders and or influential factors of this project I think that'd be great and I would strongly encourage it. My big thing is I would like the concept we've established so far to be followed on through.

My main reason for signing on is that I wanted this project to succeed and give it a swift kick in the ass in the right direction, I also had some ideas that I believed would be really good for this project. I also friggin love Mitsuda's work from all the games he's done music for, and believe any project with his name on it should be a damn good one.

[avaris]

The concept is as follows:

1. A Remixer may choose to do a remix in any style they please.

2. After a Remixer has chosen their source tune, they will need to also choose what style/genre they will do shortly after.

3. After the remixes are finished we will take “X” number of remixes from each style/genre and do a 5-15 min “super mix” for each style/genre using Ableton Live. Ex: we have 5 styles/genres there will be 5 “super mixes”

4. With Ableton Live we will combine different rhythms, harmonies, and melodies from the remixes and any vocals or solo instrumental pieces anyone wants to contribute.

5. The only restriction will be the tempo range put in place for each style/genre. This will be decided per style/genre by the remixers who are doing the remixes for that style or genre. Some styles/genres just work better under different tempos and our goal is to try and give each remixer as much freedom as they desire.

6. Depending on the compatibility of each remix across the board, an extra long super mix may be created as a bonus track at the end.


If you are a vocalist and or instrumentalist and you would like to do a solo vocal piece or a small piano, guitar, bass etc… for any of the remixes or super mixes you are strongly encouraged to do so.

We currently have just created a forum for the project, and we are having some professional artists sprucing (yes sprucing) up the sigs and providing further artwork and design ideas.

Edit: This List can now be found on the main post in the beggining.

[Foxhull]

The main post was updated a bit, obviously that couldn't have been done while the boards were down and this was my first chance to update due to a power outage at my house. Also, a few project remixers have given permission to invite some people. The WIPs that we have so far sound pretty dang awesome. Just pretty much a general update.

[Foxhull]

Another update, i added instrumentalists to the main post

[Koelsch1]

No offense, but this project sounds like a really bad idea. Why would you mix remixes together?

[avaris]

why to create even more remixes, seperate ourselves from other projects, and do something that hasn't been done before on the site before duh...no but seriously in my opinion this is a pretty cool idea, and im psyched that my mix and my work will be mixed in with the other mixes of similar genres on the project.

With the right *attention to detail* some of these super mixes could really be something to behold.
This also gives the chances for intrumentalists or vocalists to contribute something to the project without actually having to create a whole mix.

The beauty of Mitsuda's work, is that when he scores a soundtrack alot of the songs he creates have a similar feel and tone to them. It makes the idea of this super mix idea a much more attainable reality when working with one of his soundtracks. I respect your opinion, but after hearing what Ableton Live can do, I believe the super mix idea is a very attainable one and will produce good results.

[Foxhull]

just a quick update, we have a couple more remixers and the new artwork and sigs are gonna be awesome. The WIPs that are so far up in our private project forum are awesome.

[CC Ricers]

So I got a PM from Avaris, saying that I should join in. Doomsday recommended me so I'm just seeing what the deal is here. But I haven't even played Xenogears so I don't know if I'm firm on being in the project.

No offense, but this project sounds like a really bad idea. Why would you mix remixes together?

I'm just starting to get the ideas of this project, but think of how a DJ in the club mixes songs together. As a DJ, 90% of his prescence is already determined by the music selection.

My guess is there will be two parts to the project: a mixed compilation of the remixes, and the standard collection of remixes as separate songs. Some 2-disc DJ albums are done in this way.

[avaris]

Ah yes yes, very good. Thats a pretty good general description as to what the final project would be like. Honestly I just started playin the game also, its damn good. Better than any ps2 rpg...so far. Project or not, I highly recommend the game.

[Foxhull]

Yeah i have to agree about it being a great rpg. btw JustChris, it would be awesome to have you, i definately have to agree with avaris and Doomsday

[The Vagrance]

I've actually never played the game but the soundtrack just BEGS to be remixed, it may be my new Chrono Trigger (In that I'm going to end up trying to remix half of the soundtrack). I may end up picking up the game after I'm done with my remixing (personally I love remixing themes I've never heard before, it gives me much more freedom to put a new twist on it because I haven't heard the original context anyways).

[Foxhull]

ok the new sig is done, and as you can see, it is be pretty awesome, also, a "mini" sig will be made

[avaris]

I'd like to thank my bro, for doing those sigs. Even though he'll prob never see this thank you as he is more of an artist than a musician.

Oh yeah btw, for those already involved in the project I got a lil something I threw together for the mini sig on our forums, go check it out and tell me if I got no business with art or if it needs one or two more touches. It's 250x100.

[John Revoredo]

Well, xenogears has an outstanding soundtrack by Mitsuda (my favorite musician).
I think is a mistake creating a mix thing by joining everything together in a same song. You should let creativity of the remixers flow and then organize the single-mixes in both cds.

[avaris]

All of the remixers will be created first, then after they are all finished is when we'll combine different parts of remixers from similar styles/genres for the longer mixes.

basically the only restriction on remixers is the tempo they choose to create in based on what genre/style they are doing. And the remixers lof each genre are the ones who will decide what tempo ranges they are going to use.

Some source tunes and remixes won't need to be at certain tempos bc they sound good at a very wide range of tempos, like my source tune for Aveh, the Ancient Dance.

I agree though that with enough hard work on the tracks this OST has the potential to be an absolute killer project.

[Foxhull]

all right im updating the main post to clarify this point

[Nario]

I'm looking forward to seeing this project being completed! :D And, no, I don't want to join it. If I weren't in college, I'd have enough time to join, but I don't, so I'm sorry. :(

Good luck on this! :D

[Foxhull]

ok the main post has been updated to be a bit more comprehensive

[Foxhull]

i just realized that today is the one month anniversary of this project
Hooray!!! :D

[The Vagrance]

Hooray!

We're not dead yet!

[Foxhull]

Hooray!

We're not dead yet!

dead yet? since when?

[The Vagrance]

Since now...wait, now.....nope, that was in the past too, how abouuuut....NOW!

[avaris]

omg i need to start drinking heavily after that haha, things actually have been moving in the right direction

Just to let u guys know I'll try to have a rough midi file of the arrangement of my ~Broken Pieces~ concept idea up soon. I just finished all my notes and outlines on it, so now it's time to actually construct this read headed step child! So look tomorrow evenining or Tuesday evening for it on the forums.

[Foxhull]

omg i need to start drinking heavily after that haha, things actually have been moving in the right direction

Just to let u guys know I'll try to have a rough midi file of the arrangement of my ~Broken Pieces~ concept idea up soon. I just finished all my notes and outlines on it, so now it's time to actually construct this read headed step child! So look tomorrow evenining or Tuesday evening for it on the forums.

that's an amazing coincidence. can anyone guess my hair color?(RED)

[avaris]

haha omg, sorry. I was born with red hair if its any concilation. Hopefully your not a step-child to anyone either.

[Foxhull]

nah, its ok personally i like my red hair

[Z]

just wishing you luck on your project rpggamer.Looks like it is already taking off.Out of curiosity though,will any of the songs be orchestrated?

[avaris]

So far three of em are actually. And two others are different styles right now. So far the arrangement ideas the remixers have come up with for the tracks are all really good, and when they're finished they'll be nasty. I bet with this kinda soundtrack though there are gonna be tons of orchestral based remixes.

[The Vagrance]

I know for a fact that Invasion will have orchestrated elements (as I am working on it as I type, I already have 2 sfz's and 2 NN-XT's with orchestral pieces running and I'm just up to the drop) but it will still primarily be electronic, specifically Drum and Bass, somewhere around Concord Dawn territory. Also, I'm fairly sure my other remix will have orchestral elements as well.

[POCKETMAN]

Mine is 100% orchestral. :wink:

[Foxhull]

we now have a WIP preview section for the public in the main post check it out! :D

[The Vagrance]

Meh, minor nitpick but its not Drums and Bass, its just Drum and Bass, or more appropraitely DnB, either way I must say I'm slightly flattered to be the example for the project.

[Jormungand]

You should really check that tracklist... Really, CC's is the most accurate you'll find.

Especially track 2-04: it's October Mermaid. Kind of a significant difference. :p

[Arek the Absolute]

Well, I am amazed at the fact that this project is still going on + getting remixers.
Seems you guys are beating the odds.
Good luck and try to prevent the chance of this turning into another "la project".
rofl

[prophetik music]

try to prevent the chance of this turning into another "la project".
rofl

lol

[Foxhull]

Well, I am amazed at the fact that this project is still going on + getting remixers.
Seems you guys are beating the odds.
Good luck and try to prevent the chance of this turning into another "la project".
rofl

thanks

You should really check that tracklist... Really, CC's is the most accurate you'll find.

Especially track 2-04: it's October Mermaid. Kind of a significant difference. :p
actually, everywhere i have checked it is june mermaid

[Arek the Absolute]

JUNE

[Dhsu]

June is a mistranslation. The Japanese track title is "October Mermaid."

[avaris]

June is a mistranslation. The Japanese track title is "October Mermaid."

wow I wanna know what happened for u to know that! Of course u mighta just been bored and looked it up.

Yeah thanks arek, things have been steadily moving along and those already involved are dedicated to taking the right steps to make this project more that just a "la project" (guess im too new to get that one, but i catch ur drift) and really produce something this community will love.

[Foxhull]

just so you all know and are warned, one of my friends recently told me i was a bit obsessive with things that i put work into, so it would take a lot to make me let this go :)
once some of the projects are closer to being completed, such as project chaos, summoning of spirits and milkyway wishes are done, we should be able to put together a tentative timeline

[Koelsch1]

I still dont understand how this "super mix" thing is going to work.

[The Vagrance]

The simplest way of putting it:

Have you ever heard a DJ Mix? If not, download one, and hear how it sounds, the "super mix" is essentially going to be a DJ mix full of remixes from the project. If you don't get it, then just wait until it comes out.

[prophetik music]

The simplest way of putting it:

Have you ever heard a DJ Mix? If not, download one, and hear how it sounds, the "super mix" is essentially going to be a DJ mix full of remixes from the project. If you don't get it, then just wait until it comes out.
the main problem with this is going to be going between the various styles that you'll have on this project. megamixes work because the songs all have a pretty similar style and speed to them. how are you going to compensate between, say, a classical piece at 72 bpm and a techno rock piece at 158 bpm?

[avaris]

The simplest way of putting it:

Have you ever heard a DJ Mix? If not, download one, and hear how it sounds, the "super mix" is essentially going to be a DJ mix full of remixes from the project. If you don't get it, then just wait until it comes out.
the main problem with this is going to be going between the various styles that you'll have on this project. megamixes work because the songs all have a pretty similar style and speed to them. how are you going to compensate between, say, a classical piece at 72 bpm and a techno rock piece at 158 bpm?


Check the first post to get the details on the "supermix" idea. For however many styles/genres are covered that's how many 'supermixes' there will be. So for instance with the WIP's we got going right now there will defiantly be an orchestral supermix. The super mixes will be done after all the remixes are done.

[The Vagrance]

The super mix thing aside though, we still plan to make this a quality site project that many people can enjoy and that keeps the quality that OCR is known for.

[Foxhull]

definately

[Foxhull]

ok just a few updates, such as a beginning of a tracklist map in the main post under WIP progress, the official title is up,(Remix is actually Rearrangement, i was running low on allowed characters in the heading), and a shameless bump

[CHz]

You should really check that tracklist... Really, CC's is the most accurate you'll find.

Especially track 2-04: it's October Mermaid. Kind of a significant difference. :p
actually, everywhere i have checked it is june mermaid
Unfortunately, that's what happens when the mistranslation comes first. The wrong information gets spread around. Here's a portion of the back cover of the album:

http://www.quiteajolt.com/ocr/xenogearsbackcoverclipping.jpg

神無月の人魚

Kaminazuki no Ningyo

October Mermaid

"June Mermaid" would be 水無月の人魚, or "Minazuki no Ningyo." Rather similar, if you notice.

[The Vagrance]

Big ups to CHz, I guess it is really October Mermaid, makes a lot less sense but then again it sounds like one of those other song titles that makes no sense, like "Building Steam With a Grain of Salt" or "Flaming June".

[avaris]

looks like djp might have to change some titles of source tunes, of course i think the dude is nusy enough with other stuff, thanks CHz, maybe Foxhull can call his track October Mermaid for shits n giggles

[avaris]

Hey guys I got a certain "demo" of a certain song, I need you guys to go and check out on our forums to see if you dudes are feeling the "concept" i got goin for it. Leave comments for it on our forums and not this topic.

Gotta give a shout out to Doomsday for some wicked good progress on his WIP so far. Also if anyone in general hasn't checked out Siamey's Pirates mix in the wip: other section. It's pure goodness.

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=86052&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[Foxhull]

i just made a global announcement over at the project forums, and i need your thoughts on it(everyone that is on the project)

[Rexy]

***post disregarded; replied in the wrong thread***

[Foxhull]

just so you know, i am leading this on a regular basis, it's just that the majority goes on behind the scenes over at the project forum, and there will be a major update of the main post here pretty soon

[Shadix]

You should really check that tracklist... Really, CC's is the most accurate you'll find.

Especially track 2-04: it's October Mermaid. Kind of a significant difference. :p
actually, everywhere i have checked it is june mermaid
Unfortunately, that's what happens when the mistranslation comes first. The wrong information gets spread around. Here's a portion of the back cover of the album:

http://www.quiteajolt.com/ocr/xenogearsbackcoverclipping.jpg

神無月の人魚

Kaminazuki no Ningyo

October Mermaid

"June Mermaid" would be 水無月の人魚, or "Minazuki no Ningyo." Rather similar, if you notice.

...This is worse than being told that Santa is a lie.

--



I'm planning on doing a mix of Tears of the Stars, Hearts of the People when my Bonds mix is done with, but I don't think I'm like, "good enough" for a project, especially one of the magnitude of Xenogears.

[avaris]

just so you know, i am leading this on a regular basis, it's just that the majority goes on behind the scenes over at the project forum, and there will be a major update of the main post here pretty soon

Yeah there's a lot going on behind the scenes with PM's and on the forums. We have not had the forums for very long and we already have over 200 posts.

I'm planning on doing a mix of Tears of the Stars, Hearts of the People when my Bonds mix is done with, but I don't think I'm like, "good enough" for a project, especially one of the magnitude of Xenogears.

I sent a PM to rpggamer180(Foxhull) about it. As a remixer you def got potential. We'll get back to you on it soon. There are def some good arrangement ideas on that Bonds mix. Speaking of the Bonds mix...update?

[Shadix]

just so you know, i am leading this on a regular basis, it's just that the majority goes on behind the scenes over at the project forum, and there will be a major update of the main post here pretty soon

Yeah there's a lot going on behind the scenes with PM's and on the forums. We have not had the forums for very long and we already have over 200 posts.

I'm planning on doing a mix of Tears of the Stars, Hearts of the People when my Bonds mix is done with, but I don't think I'm like, "good enough" for a project, especially one of the magnitude of Xenogears.

I sent a PM to rpggamer180(Foxhull) about it. As a remixer you def got potential. We'll get back to you on it soon. There are def some good arrangement ideas on that Bonds mix. Speaking of the Bonds mix...update?

I'm currently fighting a battle for ideal volume and making everything just sound better. It's kind of annoying that I have like 4 levels of volume adjusting nonsense (I'm trying to remaster everything softer so I have a wider dynamic range, pain in the butt. Plus knowing where the velocities need to be to achieve X volume level... The most annoying part is the varying volumes at which the samples were recorded.)

It was Zirc's suggestion though, so I have faith that what I'm doing is gonna turn out good.

[Foxhull]

Major update to the main post-lookie lookie 8)

[avaris]

Minimum: 20 Tracks
Maximum: 30 Tracks

There will be a ratio of, at maximum, 60% of the tracks on one disc and 40% on the other.

OMG you mean we don't have to remix every single song, that'd be around 50 in total. 8O Haha, well I was curious as to what the final number would be. It's a more realistic goal to do this number of tracks.

[Foxhull]

Minimum: 20 Tracks
Maximum: 30 Tracks

There will be a ratio of, at maximum, 60% of the tracks on one disc and 40% on the other.

OMG you mean we don't have to remix every single song, that'd be around 50 in total. 8O Haha, well I was curious as to what the final number would be. It's a more realistic goal to do this number of tracks.

WHAT!??! you already knew the max track amount :banghead:
just a friendly bit of chat

[Foxhull]

ok i found a couple websites with in depth help on orchestration and posted them on the private forums, so anyone who is doing an orchestral mix, go check it out! Also some more updates to my WIP, in the form of an update to my last poste

[avaris]

I got another website for orchestrations that's really good, but it's a very long read. I'll have to add it to the list.

[Foxhull]

update on my WIP

[avaris]

Aight guys just wanted to make an announcement. I asked Tyler Humphrey an old buddy of mine from high school if he wanted to do a mix for the project.

The past few years I've played piano with him on occassion and omg... He would take my simple 20 sec melodies and turn them into full blown piano solo pieces right on the spot. Granted if you know music theory well enough and have the chops to play the piano that well it's easy. Of course how many us can say that...

Well anyways he chose to do graaf emperor of darkness as a piano solo. He is not an OCR member, but I gave him the link here so if he stops by that's great. Whatever he does, all u guys need to know is there is a kick ass piano mix of Graaf's song on the way.

[prophetik music]

if anyone wants help with their orchestral mix, i'm very experienced in doing those kind of things (i'm a music education major). i'll help you out, provided i'm just doing orchestration and not writing your mix for you.

[avaris]

if anyone wants help with their orchestral mix, i'm very experienced in doing those kind of things (i'm a music education major). i'll help you out, provided i'm just doing orchestration and not writing your mix for you.

Wow the answer to my prayers haha. I'll hit you up with PM soon with the my orchestral mix. I actually know exactly how I want it to sound, i got an example, but the problem is I don't know what instruments to group together to get that sound.

[E-Bison]

I hope this works. Why jump on somebody and tear them down for trying to do something interesting? Aren't these projects supposed to be collective efforts by the OCR community?

I've been gone for a long time but has OCR really become that elitist?

We should be happy that there are people who are willing to put work into organizing this kind of project. Why those with "star power" wouldn't help a project like this get off the ground is beyond me.


E-Bison

[I.Medley]

Part of the reason is that there have been projects organized in the past that didn't quite make it off the ground. I know that there was a Star Fox project that made some progress before it was shot down, as well as the Final Fantasy Tactics piano project.

It would seem that mixers don't want to get involved in a project that won't actually be released. That is why "star power" is considered important: people who have been in around the community for a while and have invested themselves into it are considered more reliable. They have spent more time here, they are more familiar with the goings-on of the site, and they are better connected. Thus, the projects that these people organize are more likely to follow through and actually finish.

That is not at all to say that this project is doomed to abject failure. I love the game and the source music, and I think it's an interesting approach to a project. But the odds are stacked against it, unfortunately.

Best of luck, all of you.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Part of the reason is that there have been projects organized in the past that didn't quite make it off the ground. I know that there was a Star Fox project that made some progress before it was shot down

Sweet shit, that would'a been awesome. Was it Starfox, or Starfox 64?

Seriously, I think this mix has potential, but you guys skipped a major step. You didn't get enough well-known artists signed on. Unless you already contacted them, and then, well... good luck. Try again. Idea. Just contact EVERY judge to do a ReMix.

No... that might get them mad. But, yeah. You really need more people signed on. Good luck with that. For pulling through this long, especially after so much criticism, you really need to show up the nay-sayers.

[The Vagrance]

We've tried a huge amount of people but right now the main theme is there's too many projects going on right now so everyone's busy. There's the FFVII project zircon's doing, that Radical Dreamers one that just started, Links Awakening and Pokemon have projects going, there's the boss battle one thats starting, there's the Mega Man IV one thats trying to get off the ground, with all of these projects going on there simply aren't enough remixers around, especially "big name" ones, so thats probably the main reason why recent projects are mostly new guys. I have no intentions of leaving this project whatsoever and I plan on seeing this through to the end, despite having many other goals.

[Arek the Absolute]

I hope this works. Why jump on somebody and tear them down for trying to do something interesting? Aren't these projects supposed to be collective efforts by the OCR community?

I've been gone for a long time but has OCR really become that elitist?

We should be happy that there are people who are willing to put work into organizing this kind of project. Why those with "star power" wouldn't help a project like this get off the ground is beyond me.


E-Bison


ROFL
go check my project
minimum star power

[Pi_R_[]ed]

...there's the boss battle one thats starting...

...with all of these projects going on there simply aren't enough remixers around, especially "big name" ones, so thats probably the main reason why recent projects are mostly new guys...

Thats... mine? Wow, right to my face, and you didn't even realize. I give up. I think I'll go crawl into a hole, no one even wants me... I think I feel worse than Arek. Arek, pretend to feel bad, thats the only way it'll work.

Seriously, you don't need star power (although it helps). As long as you have good mixers, and an original theme... Snap! I've got you beat! HA Ha haa.... suckers.

No, no, really. Thats what makes a difference. Since yours is "just another project" (no offense), you've got to get it hyped. Make it as good as you can. Obviously. But contact everyone. Listen to 200 mixes... seriously. Then pick the top 15 favorites in the style you want. Then contact those people.

[Foxhull]

ed]...there's the boss battle one thats starting...

...with all of these projects going on there simply aren't enough remixers around, especially "big name" ones, so thats probably the main reason why recent projects are mostly new guys...

Thats... mine? Wow, right to my face, and you didn't even realize. I give up. I think I'll go crawl into a hole, no one even wants me... I think I feel worse than Arek. Arek, pretend to feel bad, thats the only way it'll work.

Seriously, you don't need star power (although it helps). As long as you have good mixers, and an original theme... Snap! I've got you beat! HA Ha haa.... suckers.

No, no, really. Thats what makes a difference. Since yours is "just another project" (no offense), you've got to get it hyped. Make it as good as you can. Obviously. But contact everyone. Listen to 200 mixes... seriously. Then pick the top 15 favorites in the style you want. Then contact those people.

Hey, no badmouthing other projects, especially ones that your participating in...unless you are Doomsday.

Hooray!

We're not dead yet!

dead yet? since when?

Since now...wait, now.....nope, that was in the past too, how abouuuut....NOW!

also, im going to pming a few more people soon hopefully. also, when this one is finished, ive already got a few ideas for my next project...and i can guarranty, they are original.

[The Vagrance]

ed]...there's the boss battle one thats starting...

...with all of these projects going on there simply aren't enough remixers around, especially "big name" ones, so thats probably the main reason why recent projects are mostly new guys...

Thats... mine? Wow, right to my face, and you didn't even realize. I give up. I think I'll go crawl into a hole, no one even wants me... I think I feel worse than Arek. Arek, pretend to feel bad, thats the only way it'll work.

Seriously, you don't need star power (although it helps). As long as you have good mixers, and an original theme... Snap! I've got you beat! HA Ha haa.... suckers.

No, no, really. Thats what makes a difference. Since yours is "just another project" (no offense), you've got to get it hyped. Make it as good as you can. Obviously. But contact everyone. Listen to 200 mixes... seriously. Then pick the top 15 favorites in the style you want. Then contact those people.

Haha, no offense to you man, I am in that project after all, it was more of a general statement but whatever...
>_>
<_<
Also, mostly new guys for a project isn't bad at all, after all, look at, well, this topic.

[Foxhull]

It's starting to come along, we have another mixer-Jormagund.

[Jormungand]

Ooh, fix the name, please. After that, you can fix the tracklist. ;)

Anyway, I support this project, regardless of all the negative feedback. OK, so I don't care for the "super mix" idea, but that's independent of the main body of remixes and furthermore I have nothing to do with it, so it makes no difference to me.

As for having "big-name" remixers...it's not necessary. It's only a gimmick for attracting a full list of mixers.

So, to anyone who wants to join but is hesitant because they don't want their name on a project that may never see completion, just sign up. The only people who will give you the "I told you so" mentality aren't worth your time anyway. If it fails, at least you have a new mix started. And if it doesn't, well, you win. It's a victory either way, ladies and gents.

[Reforged]

I've emailed you. I plan to take on "Omen".

:/

[avaris]

The only people who will give you the "I told you so" mentality aren't worth your time anyway. If it fails, at least you have a new mix started. And if it doesn't, well, you win. It's a victory either way, ladies and gents.

...beautiful :cry: Personally I always enjoy reading all the negativity every day when I come home from class or work.

Reforged, I checked my email and my PM box but I haven't gotten anything yet. Of course ur the same R3FORGED with the crazy tetris track. That took me a lil while to track down. Guess u slightly changed ur name. With ur Tetris mix your pretty much in. Just have to wait rpggamer180 now to give you the full go.

Omen is a pretty nasty source tune, I almost picked it when I first signed up. I was hoping this was gonna be done in a trance/electronic style. Of course if u got something else in mind that's cool. Your high production values should really make this one bad ace.

This project is starting to have a strong trance/electronic music influence which is sweet.

[Foxhull]

yeah, i got the email, changing the post and fixing Jormugand's misspelling-sorry! :lol:

EDIT: Check out the announcement and read the note underneath. :D

[Jormungand]

changing the post and fixing Jormugand's misspelling-sorry! :lol:
You incorrectly corrected my name! :cry:

[avaris]

changing the post and fixing Jormugand's misspelling-sorry! :lol:
You incorrectly corrected my name! :cry:

haha omg, it's not funny but it is at the same time.

"Jormungand"

[Foxhull]

changing the post and fixing Jormugand's misspelling-sorry! :lol:
You incorrectly corrected my name! :cry:

fixed the fix

[The Vagrance]

I see we're off to a good start already!

/sarcasm

EDIT: I'm tempted to do multiple remixes of Invasion, my latest idea: Boards of Canada-styled Invasion. In fact, I think I'm going to start off the "Invasion" site project where all of the mixes are of Invasion, a grand departure no less.

EDIT 2: Happy 2-and-a-half month anniversary!!

[avaris]

Haha you've had like 8 different ideas for that mix haha. Why don't you do the unthinkable and combine elements of all em. 8O

[The Vagrance]

Haha you've had like 8 different ideas for that mix haha. Why don't you do the unthinkable and combine elements of all em. 8O

Haha, an 8-minute long super mix of a 8-bar looped song, I love it, maybe I will...

[Shhteve]

A Xenogears project, eh? Time to keep a close eye out.. should be interesting.

[Hyper Inferno]

I don't know if anyone else has seen the movie "The Magnificent Seven" but the theme of that movie has some pretty close similarities to the song "Flight." I think it'd be pretty cool if someone could do an old western take on the song. But I have no idea how in line with the project that style would be.

[NeoS]

Are you guys still looking for Electronics Remixers? I could lend a hand or two if so... If you guys need some examples just holler.

[avaris]

Yeah we're def still lookin, just send us some examples.

Flight as a western song, does OCR even have any western songs? That'd be sick. I already know we got some songs coming off of this project that are gonna be pretty unique so if anyone was down for trying a western style song that'd be crazy.

[NeoS]

Well ok. I have some "techno (re)mixes" right here. (http://mail.neos.googlepages.com/home)
I can also do a bit of trance (http://maze.mixer.googlepages.com/elle.mp3) btw.

Let me know if this qualifies. If not, tough luck. ;)

[avaris]

I sent a PM to rpggamer180 (Foxhull). Now just gotta wait on the final decision.

Why aren't u on OCR yet? You got some crazy stuff dude, def perfect for the Gears disc.

[Foxhull]

sure thing

[NeoS]

I'd might try a shot at "into the sky" or "flight". I really like the epicness of that tune.

I'll let you know how it works out.

[avaris]

I'd might try a shot at "into the sky" or "flight". I really like the epicness of that tune.


Damn vgmusic.com the midi's are always named different. Yeah it's "flight" and it def is an epic piece.

For any other electronic artists out there lookin for good source tunes to use.

'One Who Bares Fangs at God' or 'Light from the Netherworld' are some wicked nice source tunes for anything electronic. If you want them they are available.

[about:blank]

Hey are you guys still recruiting for this? If so, I'm interested in some of the songs that are available. I'd like to try "One Who Bears Fangs at God", but I could do some others too.

If you're still taking on mixers, I'll try to upload some of my stuff by tonight, so you guys can see if I'm good enough.

[avaris]

We are for damn sure still taking on artists.

Yeah just upload some of your stuff and we'll check it out. Did you ever finish ur Earthworm Jim song?

We are still looking for a few mixers who do jazz, orchestral, anything with an organic/natural sound hit us up. We gotta keep the number of songs on both discs balanced to a 60/40 or 40/60 ratio.

So if ur interested hit us up, there are plenty of quality source tunes left. Actually this whole damn OST is quality, almost every single song. It will be really hard for anyone not to find a source tune they could cover. If you need some help picking out a tune let me know.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

You know, I have the same problem. No one seems to understand that if there are open tracks, then OF COURSE more mixers are going to be signed on.

Why does no one ever seem to get that?

[avaris]

ed]You know, I have the same problem. No one seems to understand that if there are open tracks, then OF COURSE more mixers are going to be signed on.

Why does no one ever seem to get that?

Damn you just can't stay outta the request forums can you :lol:

Maybe it's just people being considerate?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Why, you got a problem with that? Lets go, you and me, right here!

No, Im just messing around. I just want to help out, thats all. And ReQuests is an interesting place to be, I get to view everyones stuff, and stuff.

[The Vagrance]

ed]Why, you got a problem with that? Lets go, you and me, right here!

No, Im just messing around. I just want to help out, thats all. And ReQuests is an interesting place to be, I get to view everyones stuff, and stuff.

Give this man a Pulitzer Prize for deepness or something.

[Foxhull]

alright, im back(i was gone for a day for those of you who don't know), the artist list and tracklist have been updated, and we need, at max 7 more tracks claimed before we move this thread to general

also, for everyone who hasn't signed up on the project forums yet-SIGN UP!!! :lol: that way we can get anouncements out to everyone by email quickly and easily

and whenever i am gone, avaris will be in charge, and i will at least let him know when i will be gone, if not everyone

[Foxhull]

ok, currently, only Jormungand and Tyler Humphrey need to sign up on the forums. Everyone else, good job.

[avaris]

I'll tell my buddy Tyler to sign up.

[Liontamer]

Y'all need to attract more "name" people on here to provide more obvious talent on here, but this is being moved to GD to help you out on that level.

[avaris]

Thanks larry, we weren't goin to move to gen until we hit about 18-20 tracks. But the move could help us, thanks dude.

If anyone is interested but can't find a track or come up with a concept for a mix let me know. I'll help you pick out a track and come up with a killer concept to help fit your style.

If anyone has some time constraints and is seroiusly interested let us know, we can work around it.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I've got an idea for "The Treasure Which Cannot be Stolen"

Sign me up tentatively.

It'll be a celtic, mostly acoustic guitar arrangement. Maybe even solo acoustic guitar.

[avaris]

You got it. I wish there was more celtic style music on OCR. It is not an easy style to do by any means. Def lookin forward to this one, parts of the source tune remind me of a Lorenna Meckennit song.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Cool. I might even have a rough recording by this afternoon.

This very well may end up being my first completely solo remix.

EDIT: also, add me to the instrumentalist list. I play guitars, piano, and irish whistles.

[avaris]

Sweetness anything irish is good by me.

We'll be updating a few guidlines for the project pertaining to the 'super mix' idea in the next day or two.

We are getting real close to our minimum track list, just a few more remixes. If your interested post away.

[avaris]

The concept is as follows:

1. A Remixer may choose to do a remix in any style they please.

2. After a Remixer has chosen their source tune, they will need to decide whether the song’s style fits the Humans or the Gears disc more.

3. After the remixes are finished we will take “X” number of remixes and do as many 5-15 min “super mixes” as we can. This depends on how many concepts and creative ideas we come up. We will be using Ableton Live to create the super mixes.

4. The super mixes will be comprised of different rhythms, harmonies, and melodies from the remixes; and any vocals or solo instrumental pieces anyone wants to contribute.

5. The project will be released first, and then afterwards the “super mixes” will be released at a later date when they are finished.

6. Depending on the compatibility of the remixes across the board, an extra long super mix may be created as a bonus track at the end.

We have ironed out some of the project details that were not very clear before.

Changes/Clarifications:
1. No tempo requirements for any song.

2. After the remixes are finished we will release the project.

3. The super mixes will be released as a follow up sometime after the initial project is released. They will take some time. No need to hold back all this kick ass music when it's already done.

4. Complete remixer freedom. Do whatever you want.

We are very close to our minimum track requirement(20), anyone interested go ahead and sign up. We got a lot of emerging remixers. Some posted, some soon will be.

[Hyperion5182]

Good luck guys i cant wait to hear this.

You guys get the legend that is Jared to help you yet? (didnt read over the whole thread) i mean on this site he has the benchmark on xenogear mixes.

[Foxhull]

i pmed Jared Hudson way back when and never got a reply, but i'll try him again pretty(hopefully tonight)

also, updated the main post with the clarification/changes section

[suzumebachi]

How did I not see this thread sooner? :(

[Barnsalot]

Aw, yeah! I never played Xenogears, but I've long been a fan of its soundtrack. This is gonna rock guys, so hurry up! >.<

[Dunnowhathuh]

Good to see that you guys managed to progress despite all these guys shouting in your ears (albeit with some kind advice from the pros). Look forward to seeing more progress in the future.

[Foxhull]

also, this project is being publicized at ThaSauce: Scene Portal, with a link to this thread

[MagiNinjA]

I'd be willing to lend live playing services as a violinist and clarinetist. I could also do some electronic composition, but my schedule is quite booked right now :/

[avaris]

I'd be willing to lend live playing services as a violinist and clarinetist. I could also do some electronic composition, but my schedule is quite booked right now :/

Sweet. I might hit you up on both aspects for my two mixes. I have a very important violin solo in one of my songs, that with the input and playin of an experienced violinist could really shine.

Just curious got any examples of ur work for both genres?

[The Vagrance]

So I figure this deserves a bump

[Fenrir]

How the damn did I not know about this?

[Foxhull]

Well, I was talking to Fishy and he said he could probably help with the Awakening collab. He said he also interested in participating.

[avaris]

How the damn did I not know about this?

"Well know you know, and knowing is half the battle" -GI JOE :wink:

Gotta Love GI Joe.

Sweet welcome aboard Fishy. Another announcement too...

Vampire Hunter Dan and his orchestral goodness is now onboard. He will be doin one massive opus containing at least 3 if not 4 of these source tunes: Stars of Tears, Emotions, Wings, and Ship of Regret and Sleep!

Sorry ladies and gents those songs are now taken.

[Fusion2004]

How the damn did I not know about this?

"Well know you know, and knowing is half the battle" -GI JOE :wink:

Gotta Love GI Joe.

Sweet welcome aboard Fishy. Another announcement too...

Vampire Hunter Dan and his orchestral goodness is now onboard. He will be doin one massive opus containing at least 3 if not 4 of these source tunes: Stars of Tears, Emotions, Wings, and Ship of Regret and Sleep!

Sorry ladies and gents those songs are now taken.

... Oh damn, that's not nice. I PM'ed rpggamer180 about Ship of Regret and Sleep over 3 hours ago. And I started a WIP and everything.





Blargh.

[Arek the Absolute]

Fusion, you know I still loves ya.
Super dodgeball always will welcome your help :D

[avaris]

How the damn did I not know about this?

"Well know you know, and knowing is half the battle" -GI JOE :wink:

Gotta Love GI Joe.

Sweet welcome aboard Fishy. Another announcement too...

Vampire Hunter Dan and his orchestral goodness is now onboard. He will be doin one massive opus containing at least 3 if not 4 of these source tunes: Stars of Tears, Emotions, Wings, and Ship of Regret and Sleep!

Sorry ladies and gents those songs are now taken.

... Oh damn, that's not nice. I PM'ed rpggamer180 about Ship of Regret and Sleep over 3 hours ago. And I started a WIP and everything.

Oh wow this sucks. Bad timing all around. I sent VHD a pm yesterday inviting him to join. I got a PM from VHD at 4:20 today saying he wanted in.

Fusion, wat style are you doin the song in? Can you send me the WIP maybe? If the two mixes are gonna be completely different I don't think it would be a problem letting both of you use the source tune. I mean VHD is including 2-3 other songs in his anyways, and his is most likely gonna be straight up orchestral.

Obviously rpggamer180 would have the final say on this. My two cents is that if they are different it shouldn't be a problem at all.

[Fusion2004]

Ohok, I'll upload it and PM you a link.

[Wintermute]

In response: I'm in. Got my eye on Bonds of Sea and Fire, gear style.

[avaris]

Sweetness. I was surprised no one had taken that source yet.

[avaris]

Ah double posting goodness. Well this is to avoid anymore source tune catastrophes.

Got a PM from Blue Magic(better known as Diversified Bonds now fyi) he is claiming 'Light from the Netherworlds' and the 'The One Who is Torn Apart.'

He'll be using both them to make one quacktastic song. I def like the concept he is goin for on this, the source tune fits it perfectly.

[Fishy]

Hey guys, I'd be glad to help with the guitar battle, and I would do a track of my own probably.

I don't know the soundtrack well at all, so I was wondering if anyone could reccomend me some guitar friendly tracks to have a go at. Either battle themes or something that could be a nice acoustic thing, I don't mind which.

:)

[avaris]

Here are a few that I thought would sound awesome on an acoustic guitar.

'Shattering of the Dream Egg' (Lost...Broken Shards is very similar)
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sony/ps1/dreamegg.mid

'Singing into the Gentle Wind'
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sony/ps1/Xenosoftwind.mid

Here is one that is more upbeat.
'Knight of Fire'
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sony/ps1/xenoboss.mid

Wow I can't believe I skipped over this one. It's a beautiful song, you might might be able to do something really creative with this one.
'Shebat: The Wind is Calling'
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sony/ps1/shevat_V1.0.2.mid

[Jimmy Jazz]

I'm able to provide Percussion as a live instrument If anyone needs some. By percussion, I mean anything from Triangles to Kit to Timpani. I also might be intrested in doing a mix of 'My Village Is No. 1''. Just give me a couple of days to get a WIP ready - I'm planning on doing most of it, If not all of it, live.

[Fishy]

Wow I can't believe I skipped over this one. It's a beautiful song, you might might be able to do something really creative with this one.
'Shebat: The Wind is Calling'
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sony/ps1/shevat_V1.0.2.mid

Win win win win win.

I claim it so if thats ok with everyone.

For those of you who know his stuff, I'm thinking "echo" by Joe Satriani type solo somewhere in this. Its a beautiful song.

[avaris]

You got it fishy, Satriani is amazing.

Almighty when you got the wip ready send it to us.

Man rpggamer180 is gonna have one hell of a time updating the first post when he gets back.

[Fishy]

Just out of interest, is there a secret forum or something i should know about for WIP posting?

[avaris]

why yes, yes there is...Check ur PM box.

[Fishy]

Ok because I found that song to be so awesome i figured i may aswell start straight away and i've made just over a minute of stuff. It's not mindblowing, just testing the water. I'm just waiting for the guy who hosts my stuff to appear and then i'll let your hear it.

[avaris]

Sweet, it's a good thing I mentioned that song, I almost didn't. I was goin over the track list and I just thought what the hell I'll give it a listen.

[Fishy]

Ok couldnt be arsed to wait for host so i used yousendcrap instead, but oh well. Check it out.

[Fusion2004]

avaris: Did you listen to my wip?

Whaddya say?

[avaris]

Fusion I think it would be fine, but I don't have the final say on it. Just gotta wait till rpggamer180 signs back on and decides.

Nice vibe Fishy, def like where your goin with it.

[Fusion2004]

Fusion I think it would be fine, but I don't have the final say on it. Just gotta wait till rpggamer180 signs back on and decides.

Nice vibe Fishy, def like where your goin with it.

Aight.

[Foxhull]

You got it fishy, Satriani is amazing.

Almighty when you got the wip ready send it to us.

Man rpggamer180 is gonna have one hell of a time updating the first post when he gets back.

in the process, in the process-AHHH! Too many changes! :lol:

Fusion I think it would be fine, but I don't have the final say on it. Just gotta wait till rpggamer180 signs back on and decides.


You both have it, as VHD is doing a giant medley and you are doing one song

[Foxhull]

I'm able to provide Percussion as a live instrument If anyone needs some. By percussion, I mean anything from Triangles to Kit to Timpani. I also might be intrested in doing a mix of 'My Village Is No. 1''. Just give me a couple of days to get a WIP ready - I'm planning on doing most of it, If not all of it, live.

all right, pm me the WIP when you can for the final decision

I only have time to update the taken source tunes right now

to avaris: if you haven't already, can you take care of pming the private forum url to the new project members, cuz im busy right now.

[avaris]

no problemo most of em already got it.

[NeoS]

I'm currently working on Flight. Now here it comes: i can do 2 styles. 1.)Hard-bass/house/whatever, it's harder than trance. and 2.) Trance.

I'd post a wip if i were at home, so i'll try to do so when i get there.

Just tell me which style you'd like best.

[Vampire Hunter Dan]

I'm currently working on Flight. Now here it comes: i can do 2 styles. 1.)Hard-bass/house/whatever, it's harder than trance. and 2.) Trance.

I'd post a wip if i were at home, so i'll try to do so when i get there.

Just tell me which style you'd like best.

Definitely my favorite piece from this game. Look forward to hearing the results. =)

[Wintermute]

I'm hard at work on my remix of Bonds of Sea and Flames, just to give you a notice. Kudos on the Flight remix too, excellent.

[avaris]

We got some great WIPs so far. Keep it up dudes.

Also Foxhull when ur busy week is over update the Small Two of Pieces track. Taucer is gonna be laying down some guitar for it. And don't get any ideas people, this track ain't an acoustic guitar remix.

[Foxhull]

all right, finished with the update, also, everyone who has claimed a source tune and has not told what style it is in, i need to know so that i can update the tracklist

[avaris]

im pretty sure Fusion2004's is gonna be electronic correct me if I'm wrong.

[The Vagrance]

I've never made an acoustic track in my life and I don't plan on starting any time soon.

[kitty]

I don't have time to read the entire thread at the moment, and I'm not sure if Geoffrey Taucer and avaris mentioned what they would be doing with Small Two of Pieces, but I sure hope that they really exercise their magic on it (hopefully with emphasis the last bit with the orchestra harp and flute!). I'll be looking forward to it. :wink:

[Fishy]

Why 80s cheesy guitar music of course.

[avaris]

I don't have time to read the entire thread at the moment, and I'm not sure if Geoffrey Taucer and avaris mentioned what they would be doing with Small Two of Pieces, but I sure hope that they really exercise their magic on it (hopefully with emphasis the last bit with the orchestra harp and flute!). I'll be looking forward to it. :wink:

Thanks dude, working magic is def the right way to put it. People are goin to be really surprised by how we are doin this one. There will be others joining in on the song too, just don't know who yet.

[avaris]

I know that Vampire Hunter Dan's track is def goin to be on the Humans disc. It's an orchestral extravaganza.

[Fusion2004]

im pretty sure Fusion2004's is gonna be electronic correct me if I'm wrong.

Spot on, mate.

[DJ SymBiotiX]

Hey, I got your PM, and I'd be glad to contribute something here.

The thing is, I am not very familiar with Xenogears music. Is there any place I can get some.. or from somebody here(just the songs left)? I'm sure it has awesome music, and I'll want to remix a song or so.

So yea, I hope to hear from somebody, cause I think this is going to be awesome!

[avaris]

So yea, I hope to hear from somebody, cause I think this is going to be awesome!

I think ur awesome... :D When r u releasing ur album dude?

seach for blue laguna on google and you'll find a nice website with all the mp3's. If you need any midi's vgmusic has a ton, but the names don't always match up to the track list.

If you need a lil more help picking out a source tune let me know. If you can give me an idea of what kind of song ur gonna make I can try to find a source tune that will fit it for you.

[DJ SymBiotiX]

Nov 20th. Its out already. And I'll check that music later.

[Foxhull]

well, tell me when you have on chosen

[avaris]

For those remixers still lookin for a source tune. You can pick 'Stars of Tears' I talked to VHD and he said he would barely be using it at all. So it's open again!

[Geoffrey Taucer]

That and emotions are basically the same song.

I'll tentatively call Emotions/Stars of Tears

[avaris]

That and emotions are basically the same song.

I'll tentatively call Emotions/Stars of Tears

Yeah VHD basically said the same thing, and ur concept for the mix is completely different from VHD's... :twisted:

[Dash Myoku]

Ooo, Xenogears. I love that game. Perhaps I'll help out with the project, though I don't know where I stand from a remix point of view. I don't know if I'm good enough or not. ^^;

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Actually, I should cancel my claim on "Emotions." I already have more works in progress than I can handle, most of them for projects.

[avaris]

Actually, I should cancel my claim on "Emotions." I already have more works in progress than I can handle, most of them for projects.

That's cool, quality over quantity.

Dash send rpggamer180 and I some of your songs. Make sure they are recent and preferrably finished, thanks dude.

[Foxhull]

alright, there are a couple of people interested, so as soon as one more track is claimed, the WIP date will be set, and things should be moving faster.

BTW the WIP date is already pretty much finalized, we just need one more claimed track to announce it.

[The Vagrance]

h4y guyz wats up?

[avaris]

Not much homes, I was gone for 2 days and I come back to see LuiZa is now collabing with you poor saps on the Awakening track. And then I go to listen to the source tune again and map out a prog rock arrangement in my head with all of your guys styles and then I crap myself out of excitement...The mix sounds really good in my head, now get to it guys n gals.

Oh yeah another announcement, of course basically everyone already on the project knew this. E-Bison is gonna be the audio engineer for da proj. He will also be doing a remix for the project if he can find a source tune to work with.

Please check out the proj forums for a more detailed discussion about the mastering process for the project. Input from everyone is always welcome and has really been an integral part in how this project has been run so far.

Also I got another collab partner in mind for the Small Two of Pieces mix.:D If it pans out the mix will prob be moved to the Gears disc. OH YEAH!

[Fishy]

When it's in a suitable form, midi or whatever, can i see the awekening arrangment at all, cause i think you said you wanted help with that. I have a pretty good prog background for input.

[Foxhull]

When it's in a suitable form, midi or whatever, can i see the awekening arrangment at all, cause i think you said you wanted help with that. I have a pretty good prog background for input.

we don't have anything arranged yet, but LuIzA is going to help with arranging and she is doing the bass guitar part. What we have is:
Style: Metal/Punk/Prog. - Guitar Battle
Rhythm Guitars: Me, Fishy, Tensei-San
Bass Guitar: LuIzA
Drum Track: Doomsday
Lead Guitars: Anyone listed so far that can play and wants to do a lead part as well.
Note: Geoffrey Taucer has offered to help if we need it.

That's what we have so far Fishy, and anyone else who asks.

Also, everyone in the project so far check out General over at the project forum.

[Fishy]

I like teh leads.

But yeah i'll play whatever you want. Just keep us all updated about it.

[The Vagrance]

I got a microphone today so with a little bit of creative micing and layering I could get a good, real drum track down!

[prophetik music]

When it's in a suitable form, midi or whatever, can i see the awekening arrangment at all, cause i think you said you wanted help with that. I have a pretty good prog background for input.

we don't have anything arranged yet, but LuIzA is going to help with arranging and she is doing the bass guitar part. What we have is:
Style: Metal/Punk/Prog. - Guitar Battle
Rhythm Guitars: Me, Fishy, Tensei-San
Bass Guitar: LuIzA
Drum Track: Doomsday
Lead Guitars: Anyone listed so far that can play and wants to do a lead part as well.
Note: Geoffrey Taucer has offered to help if we need it.

That's what we have so far Fishy, and anyone else who asks.

Also, everyone in the project so far check out General over at the project forum.

depending on how you do this thing, i can do a wailing rock solo on my sax (although it'd probably be out of style) if you want it.

or, if you have a desperate urge for vocals, my voice fits pretty well for a rock vocalist, if you wanted.

i dunno. i just want to help out on this project.

[avaris]

Well you could be crazy and have someone run your sax through guitar rig2 and see if you can't create some new kinda sound that would fit!? 8O

One more person working on awakening couldn't hurt now could it?

Oh yeah announcement this is me being super happy :D Reforged is now collabing with Taucer and I on the Small Two of Pieces track. So Foxhull switch this song over to the Gears disc. Wow I can't wait to finish this one and listen to it.

[DJ SymBiotiX]

umm.. if I can, I'll take emotions.

I'm thinking a trancy calm chill kinda track. We'll see though.

[avaris]

Let me PM Foxhull about it. The track is already taken but then again many of the tracks are similar to emotions. You know Stars of Tears is basically the same song, shhhhh. Well except for the bad ass celtic part in it right at the end.:D We'll def be able to work out something.

Any of the other source tunes giving you any ideas?

If you combined emotions with another track that isn't taken it'd prob def be ok.

Shattering of the Dream Egg, could def go with emotions. The melodies from that tune def fit the relaxing chill feel your goin for.

[Foxhull]

When it's in a suitable form, midi or whatever, can i see the awekening arrangment at all, cause i think you said you wanted help with that. I have a pretty good prog background for input.

we don't have anything arranged yet, but LuIzA is going to help with arranging and she is doing the bass guitar part. What we have is:
Style: Metal/Punk/Prog. - Guitar Battle
Rhythm Guitars: Me, Fishy, Tensei-San
Bass Guitar: LuIzA
Drum Track: Doomsday
Lead Guitars: Anyone listed so far that can play and wants to do a lead part as well.
Note: Geoffrey Taucer has offered to help if we need it.

That's what we have so far Fishy, and anyone else who asks.

Also, everyone in the project so far check out General over at the project forum.

depending on how you do this thing, i can do a wailing rock solo on my sax (although it'd probably be out of style) if you want it.

or, if you have a desperate urge for vocals, my voice fits pretty well for a rock vocalist, if you wanted.

i dunno. i just want to help out on this project.

Well, that could turn out nicely, I was going to contact you originally about the bass guitar part, but when LuIzA joined in I asked her while I was at it. We could probably work you into the arrangement.
Just let me know, cuz this is already turning into an interesting track. We already have 5 people, and it could continue expanding into 6 to 7 people 8O if we add vocals(the 7th would be a lyricist).

And you already are helping out in the project, but we can always use more help :D .

[LuIzA]

sax solo would be DAMN cool.

[Foxhull]

Well, WIPs are officially due by January 31st. We have finally hit the 20 track minimum :D .

[avaris]

sax count +1

Yo DJ SymBiotiX your good to go homes. You can do emotions as the trance chill out.

Uh oh... 20 track minimum limit has been hit. And we still got a few more tracks coming!

Edit: Forgot to mention. We know who might need an extension of those involved. For everyone else, if anything comes up, please let us know!

[Foxhull]

alright, an update of the main post, fixed some things i missed, thanks avaris.

since VHD has two songs in his medley that others are using as well, the track "Wings" is exclusively his.

a reminder, everyone who has not signed up on the project forums, sign up.

and i like the idea of a sax solo and possibly vocals, who knows, metal distortion on a sax could be interesting 8) . so i'll add you to the list Mephisto.

[ocremixfan]

I can't believe 'Shattering the Egg of Dreams' is still unclaimed!
That is a MUST for a xenogears project... :cry:

Well... fingers crossed, hoping for a remixer joining in and picking it up!

[prophetik music]

distortion on saxophone doesn't really sound all that hot usually, at least when i've used it. vocoder sounds really sexy, sometimes, as well as some really aggressive delay techniques. i'll show you sometime. but yeah, just send me the background and tell me where to go, and i'll go.

[avaris]

I can't believe 'Shattering the Egg of Dreams' is still unclaimed!
That is a MUST for a xenogears project... :cry:

Well... fingers crossed, hoping for a remixer joining in and picking it up!

I think I might have someone who can do it, I'll see if that person is still interested. :wink:

fingers crossed :D

I think the vocoder on the sax would prob be better.

[avaris]

I can't believe 'Shattering the Egg of Dreams' is still unclaimed!
That is a MUST for a xenogears project... :cry:

Well... fingers crossed, hoping for a remixer joining in and picking it up!

Oh good news there is someone to do the song :D This certain individual is def well suited to remix this song.

I'm gonna announce who it is after they post their WIP in the private forums, which will be anytime now. :wink: Also I need some reason to keep on shamelessly bumping this thread all the time. I just want to be 100% sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're in.

So in the meantime 'Shattering the Dream Egg' is claimed, and will hopefully stay that way.

[ocremixfan]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
(helping you to bump the thread)

[DJ SymBiotiX]

hmm ok. I think I want to change my choice to Knight of Fire. I wasnt really getting anywhere with emotions,and I think I will be able to do something with knight of fire.