DKC2 - Brambles (piano) [Archive] - OverClocked ReMix Forums

Radiowar

08-31-2006, 01:49 AM

FINISHED version (http://alexhhhh.googlepages.com/DonkeyKongCountry2LanternsOCReMix.mp3)

This is the most recent version in case anybody is interested.

brambles (instrumental) (http://alexhhhh.googlepages.com/bramblesinstrumental.mp3)

I was just messing around on my piano and came up with this. This is just a rough version, I think I'm gonna have vocals over this in the end so some parts will repeat. I just wanted to get an idea of what people thought of this.

http://www.box.net/public/f41v4mmrtv

FraGmenTd

08-31-2006, 07:03 AM

I love this tune from the game, and I really like what you've done with it. I don't really have much for suggestions, as I know next to nothing about making this kind of music. I am lousy at arranging piano-only pieces. But I really like this nonetheless. Thought you could use some feedback, even if it's totally useless. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Radiowar

08-31-2006, 03:16 PM

That's cool. The only thing I was sort of worried about was maybe the source sounded awkward in 3/4 or something. But thanks for the feedback.

Reboneer

09-01-2006, 07:18 AM

Something sounds a bit out of place at 1:25, and again at 1:37. Apart from that, I'm liking the sound of this :)

Dafydd

09-01-2006, 01:02 PM

Wonderful.

Radiowar

09-01-2006, 06:07 PM

Something sounds a bit out of place at 1:25, and again at 1:37. Apart from that, I'm liking the sound of this :)

Yeah I know what you mean. I've tried other keys but really E minor is the only one that works there.

Ronyn

09-02-2006, 09:11 PM

I think this sounds really nice. Forget if 3/4 fits the source or not. It stands well on it's own, so it doesn't really matter. This solution is much more creative.

I think the bass line at the intro stays static for a bit too long considering you don't end up making it static on purpose. A few changes there might help.

I'm not sure if this helps, but it seems to me that 1:25 and 1:37 seem awkward because they belong to the only sets of chords that don't move or change. Perhaps an inversion, or an added 7th, 9th, etc?

I really like this though. I hope you keep going on it.

Radiowar

09-02-2006, 09:16 PM

I think the bass line at the intro stays static for a bit too long considering you don't end up making it static on purpose. A few changes there might help.

You mean the first four chords? That was all intentional...I'm not sure what you mean.

I'm not sure if this helps, but it seems to me that 1:25 and 1:37 seem awkward because they belong to the only sets of chords that don't move or change. Perhaps an inversion, or an added 7th, 9th, etc?

Believe me I've tried. But E minor is the only one that works...considering I have to go from G major to E minor and then the next chord has to be something that makes sense in that context, but also goes back to F major and A minor well.

It will probably sound better with the vocals over top.

I really like this though. I hope you keep going on it.

Yeah once I finish up the lyrics I'll probably submit this sometime next week. Thanks for the comments.

ILLiterate

09-02-2006, 09:57 PM

This is great, please submit this to http://remix.thasauce.net/ when you're done with it

Radiowar

09-02-2006, 10:23 PM

I was gonna submit it here...

unless you think this won't pass here or something

ILLiterate

09-02-2006, 10:27 PM

No, none of that, I just really want it on R:TS. If it can get on OCR too, all the better. We'd just post it faster if it is passed (it has a 99% chance of passing)

crypto_magnum

09-08-2006, 10:00 PM

As for the repeated E-minor chords at 1:25 and 1:37, I think the reason that they sound strange to me is that they are different from what I was expecting to come next after hearing the source tune. I believe the original song goes from F-G-e-(a for two beats,G for two beats).

That said, I like your version very much. If you keep the second E-minor, you might want to consider inverting the chord (change the bass note to another note in E-minor).

One more thing to consider would be mixing up the rhythm of the bass a little; it's sort of going "boom-chick-chick" the whole time. It works nicely in the beginning, but you might consider changing the rhythm slightly during one of the phrases, and/or adding some filler notes between phrases.

Beautiful playing, and I especially like the intro.

cobaltstarfire

09-15-2006, 12:28 AM

Ooh this is nice and chopinesc, very pretty. I never heard the "awkward" chords in it though, my ear is fairly good so I dunno why I can't hear it, maybe just not expecting it to go a certain way. I heard *something* with the first listen that sounded a bit off but the next 5 listens I couldn't figure out where it was cause I wasn't hearing it anymore.

It'd be cool if you took it further and put more dynamics and maybe even tempo changes throughout it (since it already has a chopin feel to it)Maybe explore the theme a bit and change up the background motive or atleast let it evolve some.

For the tempo and length, this song feels very short, I hope you'll be adding more to it. (And if you do the version with lyrics I hope you post a lyrics version and a non lyrics one too :p)

Oh yeah, one thing not related to the song directly; you may want to make the recording louder (not dynamicly louder though).

metaphist

09-15-2006, 01:24 AM

It'd be cool if you took it further and put more dynamics and maybe even tempo changes throughout it (since it already has a chopin feel to it)Maybe explore the theme a bit and change up the background motive or atleast let it evolve some.

I was going to suggest this before I knew you wanted lyrics over it. I'm not sure if that would mess up your ideas for vocals. But I would also like to hear some sort of dramatic change in the tone during the middle, with a return to the solemn sound for the ending. Well, not too dramatic--something as simple as a tempo change would work. Good idea for this mix, I think the judges will appreciate it.

about:blank

09-15-2006, 02:18 AM

This is a really cool take on the Brambles theme. The piano sounds good, quality-wise. I haven't heard the orignal in a while (it's been about a year or two since I've played DKC2) so I didn't really notice the "awkward" parts.

All in all, this sounds really nice, and I can't wait to hear what this sounds like once you put vocals to it.

Radiowar

09-22-2006, 10:33 PM

Thanks for listening guys :)

This song is pretty much finished composition wise but I just haven't gotten around to recording the vocals, and I'm really not in any hurry.

Right now I'm working on an instrumental version for ThaSauce and it's gonna be fleshed out a lot more. Hopefully it turns out ok.

_Raijin_

11-20-2006, 03:43 PM

it sounds like at 1:35 theres another 2 bars missing or something, it cuts back to the main melody too fast. also the only thing i dont like about this part up to then is the loss of sustain on the bass at 1:29.

The timing takes a bit of getting used to, but it works

other than that its kinda nice but fairly short and repetetive, it needs some variety and fleshing out on both the melody and the bass side of things. good piano sound though.

Radiowar

11-20-2006, 05:03 PM

it sounds like at 1:35 theres another 2 bars missing or something, it cuts back to the main melody too fast.

hmm don't know why it sounds like that. there isn't anything missing though...

also the only thing i dont like about this part up to then is the loss of sustain on the bass at 1:29.

yeah just a sequencing mistake, i played this on my old computer so a few notes didn't come through and i had to fix them manually...that's just one i forgot.

other than that its kinda nice but fairly short and repetetive, it needs some variety and fleshing out on both the melody and the bass side of things. good piano sound though.

yeah it is simple, but that's intentional. it is meant to have vocals over it.

thanks for listening

edit: i've posted the "final" version in the first post, it's just longer and i think the minor issues have been fixed. i'll do the vocals someday, just not yet.

_Raijin_

11-21-2006, 01:01 AM

it sounds like at 1:35 theres another 2 bars missing or something, it cuts back to the main melody too fast.

hmm don't know why it sounds like that. there isn't anything missing though...

maybe theres nothing missing that was in the original (I've been working on a remix of it and have a different version engraved in my skull at the moment so it might be throwing me off a bit) but musically it sounds like it could use something more in there to tie it all in more cohesively.

Radiowar

11-21-2006, 01:22 AM

no i meant musically there isn't anything missing. the phrasing is all very intentional.

Radiowar

07-28-2007, 11:08 PM

8 month BUMP

the finished version of this song is here (http://alexhhhh.googlepages.com/DonkeyKongCountry2LanternsOCReMix.mp3)

I sent it in to thasauce but either they take even longer to post remixes than OCR or they just forgot, so I'm thinking about submitting it here instead. y/n?

-MZ-

07-29-2007, 06:15 PM

You might as well, see what the judges think of it. Even if it doesn't pass, they'll usually get you in the right direction so that you song will pass the next time.

A question, how did you get your piano sample to sound the way it does. I'm using VSTi, and I can't get it to sound "pure" or, basically, just like in this song.

Radiowar

07-29-2007, 07:27 PM

The piano sample is a Steinway from the EWQL Symphonic Orchestra with a little reverb.

cobaltstarfire

07-29-2007, 10:53 PM

I kind of liked the strait piano version better.

This is ok though.

-MZ-

07-29-2007, 10:54 PM

The piano sample is a Steinway from the EWQL Symphonic Orchestra with a little reverb.

Dang, I was afraid you'd say that...

Oh well, this is really good BTW. If you do decide to submit this, I hope is passes. :smile:

Radiowar

07-30-2007, 02:57 AM

I kind of liked the strait piano version better.

This is ok though.

yeah I sorta did too but I think this version is pretty good on its own.
I'll submit this sometime, it's just I already have 2 mixes in what is already a huge queue and I probably shouldn't be adding more to it :P

pu_freak

08-05-2007, 12:48 PM

While this is a great sounding ambient mix, it feels more like background music than a real main song (which is what these remixing sites are about).

In other words, while everything sounds good, I'm missing a real build-up. It just feels all like the same.

Sorry to sound harsh...

Radiowar

08-06-2007, 04:03 AM

i'm sorry you feel that way :\
i know it's quiet and slow but i did try to incorporate buildup (and build down?) as much as possible (the second part especially, with the flute/clarinet/oboe playing that ascending two-note pattern), and i definitely didn't intend it to be ambient.

gliyw1thdabangs

08-06-2007, 04:27 PM

I've only listened to the most update version and not any previous ones.

I wish I could hear your leads in the soundscape better. You need to balance it all out! Then I would definitely love this, it's beautiful!

If you cleared up the soundscape, I think this would pass. For instance in the beginning, I want to hear the strings a little sharper, but still be in the background. It would sound awesome and you would be able to hear your application of its strong supportive element, specifically feeling the way you wrote it.

Radiowar

08-17-2007, 03:36 PM

Yeah I guess you were right about the balancing thing :P That'll be easy to fix though.

I'm just offended that they're all making fun of my name http://alexhhhh.googlepages.com/emot-emo.gif

gliyw1thdabangs

08-17-2007, 03:54 PM

haha, what? You got another wip coming soon? I'm really into the two demos you already have. sweeet.

Skrypnyk

08-17-2007, 07:21 PM

alexhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Radiowar

08-17-2007, 07:28 PM

haha, what? You got another wip coming soon? I'm really into the two demos you already have. sweeet.

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11085

got 3 no's D:
but the comments were pretty positive, they pretty much said the same thing you did
I already resubmitted, hopefully it'll pass this time

tyrog

08-17-2007, 07:41 PM

Have you submitted to judges? It deserves to be accepted :nicework:

avaris

08-17-2007, 08:35 PM

alexhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Goooooood Lucckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!! :-P

Radiowar

08-17-2007, 08:36 PM

:lol::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

ILLiterate

08-18-2007, 01:56 AM

Hey, sorry something messed up with the submissions and Rama is pretty much awol (he handels it)

It'll be nice to see it on here though, and it'll probably feel a lot better for you, GG

Radiowar

08-18-2007, 03:09 AM

Hey, sorry something messed up with the submissions and Rama is pretty much awol (he handels it)

It'll be nice to see it on here though, and it'll probably feel a lot better for you, GG

that's cool I think it fits better here.

I still think doing a Rabbit In Your Headlights style version of this song would be cool though. :)