Sony PS3

[Bahamut]

QFT & E

Not that consoles are bad, just that few games are worth getting a console for, and pc game ports imo are not an excuse to play on a console when its superior on the PC to begin with...

Eh, I usually find far more games on console that are worth a play than I find on PC, and the difference in experience hasn't warranted building a PC an incredibly urgent priority, especially with that cost differential (I'd be building the PC for more than just gaming). For example, right now I'm playing Call of Duty 4, Rock Band, Guitar Hero 3, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, and Planet Puzzle League, while I beat Super Mario Galaxy & Bioshock within the last month. Sure, CoD 4, Bioshock, and GH3 are on PC as well, but GH3 for the PC is kinda bleh (actually, it's the first version of GH3 I got to play), and the latter two games handled just fine for the 360 (not to mention got them cheaper than normal - $40 each). In addition, I got Mass Effect waiting for me...can't say I care about much that got released for the PC this past fall, excepting Hellgate: London.

[Schwaltzvald]

...stuff...

Of course one shouldn't build a PC {b]just{/b} for gaming, that ought to be a no brainer considering you may as well get a console if you're just gonna game. The only other benefit is that depending on how it's built it's bound to live a lot longer than a console would. Again it depends on the build...

GH3 isn't a PC game/shouldn't be one despite there being a port to it (I've never heard of a PC version of GH3)

[Bahamut]

Of course one shouldn't build a PC {b]just{/b} for gaming, that ought to be a no brainer considering you may as well get a console if you're just gonna game. The only other benefit is that depending on how it's built it's bound to live a lot longer than a console would. Again it depends on the build...

GH3 isn't a PC game/shouldn't be one despite there being a port to it (I've never heard of a PC version of GH3)

Yeah, I'd be building a desktop (I want to do so quite badly, but I also want a 1080p HDTV to ease my eyes and a car sometime later this year) for music listening with massive hard drive space, music making (since I don't really like working with Garageband, and the hard drive limitation hurts sample usage as is), and gaming...I just don't have ~$1500 laying around for such an expense.

[Schwaltzvald]

I just don't have ~$1500 laying around for such an expense.

You don't have to spend something such as $1500 all at the same time. Just manage your budget and you can do it. Heck the TV can wait considering its a unitasker :razz: and the car, while grants you mobility is technically a big money drain unless you manage to convert your car's engine to eat another source of fuel...

[Bahamut]

You don't have to spend something such as $1500 all at the same time. Just manage your budget and you can do it. Heck the TV can wait considering its a unitasker :razz: and the car, while grants you mobility is technically a big money drain unless you manage to convert your car's engine to eat another source of fuel...

I need the car for grocery shopping, and just the convenience of general traveling (I lose too much time from shopping and such and using public transportation) - as a graduate student, it sort of is a must. As for the TV, it's to ease eyestrain - I view that as a higher priority than any function I need a desktop for.

[megadave]

When your PC can get 7 random people in front of it and make them fight over who gets to play 'bowling' first, give me a call.

[Brushfire]

Well mate, assuming it does, my considered opinion is that it would be worth the wait. Even if it means you filthy console-playing peasants get to enjoy what we of the PC-gaming master race have long since moved on from :)

Yeah we all love Zero Puctuation too...

[Baleshadow]

Well, it seems my PS3 just died. Turning it on yields no picture, no startup sound, and trying to turn it off via the button on the front does nothing, only producing a series of three beeps. Weird, as it worked perfectly fine on Friday.

Luckily, I still have two weeks on the manufacturer's warranty. And if Sony customer service gives me the runaround (as I suspect they might) I still have a full product replacement plan at Best Buy. Bah.

[FR]

Yea I just beat DMC 4 like 3 days ago and it was not as good as I hoped it would be...7/10 is the best rating I could give it. I would rant about it but I don't feel like typing right now.:?

[Necrotic]

Yea I just beat DMC 4 like 3 days ago and it was not as good as I hoped it would be...7/10 is the best rating I could give it. I would rant about it but I don't feel like typing right now.:?

I just got it yesterday, and I've barely run through it, but I like it a lot so far. Were you much of a DMC-style action game fan in the past? I'm aware of Dante having to go through much of the same stuff you play through as Nero and fighting the bosses 3 times, but that doesn't bother me, and personally I like the idea of having to try and defeat the bosses with Dante as well as Nero.

But other than that, I haven't heard of any more of its shortcomings, so I'm curious to find out what you think.

Also, if you end up telling me you played it on easy (like my friend), you're not entitled to your balls or opinion anymore. :P

[FR]

SPOILERS-ish




Beat it on normal; Basically the story sucked and you run through the same areas with both Dante and Nero...It just feels like if they removed Nero from the story it wouldn't matter one bit,He's fun to play with but to me it's like he's irrelevant.Dante is cool but you only get to play with him for maybe like and hour and half so I was just disappointed by the whole mess.To me it seems like Capcom is just fucking up on the even number sequels in the DMC series but that's just me.:?

Edit: I beat it in 2 sessions don't know how many hours...Maybe 6 or less, It's not as hard as DMC 3 is/was I guess is my point.

[Necrotic]

SPOILERS-ish




Beat it on normal; Basically the story sucked and you run through the same areas with both Dante and Nero...It just feels like if they removed Nero from the story it wouldn't matter one bit,He's fun to play with but to me it's like he's irrelevant.Dante is cool but you only get to play with him for maybe like and hour and half so I was just disappointed by the whole mess.To me it seems like Capcom is just fucking up on the even number sequels in the DMC series but that's just me.:?

Haha, don't tell me you were expecting a story from DMC? As far as I'm concerned, the game is about the action gameplay.

As for Nero, I like him. His style of play is quite a bit different because of what the Devil Bringer gives him. Now, in fairness, I haven't played Dante yet because that comes later, but I'm assuming he's similar to the way he was in DMC3. If that's true, then I have nothing against Nero being in the game to mix things up. That's not to say you're not entitled to your opinion here, but I don't see any reason to be hatin' on Nero or calling him irrelevant. He's new, he has different abilities, he's fun to play. Now, I can't comment on the actual lack of Dante for most of the game cause even that would piss me off. I've heard that playing him on harder difficulties can make up for what little you play of him though.

I'd say the main reason that DMC2 is an epic fuck up is because not only did Capcom not put the original director on the game, the gameplay was just not anywhere near as good as the original and especially not 3 and 4. And everything about it felt unfamiliar. I'm wondering if, by the end of the game, my opinion on DMC4 will change drastically (I'll be the first to admit nothing I say here really holds a lot of ground yet) but I see nothing so far that fucks the game up to those proportions.

But if it frustrates you that much, I'm assuming you picked your name for a good reason. ;-)

[FR]

1.Haha, don't tell me you were expecting a story from DMC? As far as I'm concerned, 2.the game is about the action gameplay.

3.As for Nero, I like him. His style of play is quite a bit different because of what the Devil Bringer gives him. Now, in fairness, I haven't played Dante yet because that comes later, but 4.I'm assuming he's similar to the way he was in DMC3. If that's true, then I have nothing against Nero being in the game to mix things up. That's not to say you're not entitled to your opinion here, but I don't see any reason to be 5.hatin' on Nero or calling him irrelevant. He's new, he has different abilities, he's fun to play. Now, I can't comment on the actual lack of Dante for most of the game cause even that would piss me off. I've heard that playing him on harder difficulties can make up for what little you play of him though.

I'd say the main reason that 6.DMC2 is an epic fuck up is because not only did Capcom not put the original director on the game, the gameplay was just not anywhere near as good as the original and especially not 3 and 4. And everything about it felt unfamiliar. I'm wondering if, by the end of the game, 7.my opinion on DMC4 will change drastically (I'll be the first to admit nothing I say here really holds a lot of ground yet) but I see nothing so far that 8.fucks the game up to those proportions.

But if it frustrates you that much, 9.I'm assuming you picked your name for a good reason. ;-)

1.No I wasn't but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to be surprised.
2.Yes, yes it is.
3.Me too.
4.Better.
5.Not hatin' per-say,To me it felt like if Capcom just through him in there just for the fuck of it...I guess I'm saying they didn't do a good enough job to make me care about him as a main character like games should.
6.I concur, I own said fuck up.
7.I'll bet on that.
8.Did I make it sound that bad?
9.I guess I did

BTW:Puzzle room thing=WTF?

[Necrotic]

1.No I wasn't but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to be surprised. (1.Haha, don't tell me you were expecting a story from DMC?)
2.Yes, yes it is. (2.the game is about the action gameplay.)
3.Me too. (3.As for Nero, I like him.)
4.Better. (4.I'm assuming he's similar to the way he was in DMC3.)
5.Not hatin' per-say,To me it felt like if Capcom just through him in there just for the fuck of it...I guess I'm saying they didn't do a good enough job to make me care about him as a main character like games should. (5.hatin' on Nero or calling him irrelevant)
6.I concur, I own said fuck up. (6.DMC2 is an epic fuck up)
7.I'll bet on that. (7.my opinion on DMC4 will change drastically)
8.Did I make it sound that bad? (8.fucks the game up to those proportions.)
9.I guess I did (9.I'm assuming you picked your name for a good reason. :wink:)

BTW:Puzzle room thing=WTF?

1. Fair enough.
2. And still only a 7? Where would you put Ninja Gaiden; its story, characterization, voice acting, and presentation are even worse by comparison I'd say, despite me being one of many who would put it among their favourite action games.
3. But not enough to justify his character?
4. Good to hear. :-D
5. Okay, I can see that.
6. I'm sorry.
7. Hey, don't be so unfair. :razz: Actually, it probably will change, but I can't say whether that'll be positive or negative.
8. Well, calling DMC4 a 'fuck up' kind of puts it that way.
9. In retrospect, I apologize for being so damn cheesey.


-Nick

[FR]

1....still only a 7? Where would you put Ninja Gaiden; its story, voice acting, and presentation are even worse by comparison I'd say, despite me being one of many who would put it among their favorite action games.
2.But not enough to justify his character?
3.Well, calling DMC4 a 'fuck up' kind of puts it that way.
4.In retrospect, I apologize for being so damn cheesey.


-Nick

1.7/10 was a rating I pulled out of my ass...I would probably go 7.9/10 or 8.1/10 at most but I haven't really truly thought about it;Got to the 2nd to last boss in ninja gaiden but I remember it being better then DMC story wise at least.
2.Nero is just I dunno Meh, If I had to list memorable/favorite characters I would forget/not list him.
3.I meant to use the term fuck up loosely.
4.It wasn't that cheesey
I thought you were a chick, don't ask me why.

[Schwaltzvald]

if you end up telling me you played it on easy (like my friend), you're not entitled to your balls or opinion anymore. :P
QFE

From what it sounds FR, unless you seriously played it on the hardest mode and discovered it was not difficult at all...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/rage.png
I'll rage until you have

as...

It's one of the only reasons I would ever consider getting a PS3 among some others... The DMC series have always been enjoyable for its brutal challenges and encouragement in being flamboyant in utilizing (in earlier title's case) Dante's skills/abilities. Practically one of the major reasons that DMC 1 & 3 were and still are fun; if not the only reason.

If DMC4 is easier than either mentioned titles, even on the hardest mode, it would be a shame....

[FR]

Schwaltzvald:I beat it on normal in like 6 hours with only like 4 golden orbs...I used three on the last boss (Stupidity got the best of me). I remember DMC 3 being harder and better generally in every way except graphics and Dante style system (Correct me if I'm wrong but in DMC 3 does dante get a style which lets him use all the styles or a style that has the benefits of the various styles?).

Edit:Anybody played Dynasty Warriors 6 yet? I got a better score then Turok in Game Informer!

[Unstable Hamster]

My roommate got DW 6. You'll be pleasantly surprised just about all the stuff you loved in the older DW's are still around.
A major change is the actual attacking. There is a gauge called renbu now, it goes up when you combo a lot. The higher the renbu the more attacks get added to your combo. The feel of DW is still there, so don't worry about it too much. It feels pretty natural, yet the chaining between X and Triangle is gone. You just pick the light attack or the heavy attack. Pretty sweet trick they added is to attack while you're blocking, if it hits you combo a single guy for a ton of damage.
Weapon's are about the same, but you get 3 different types; attack, standard, and Skill. All are affected by your renbu (Example: If you have an Attack weapon, when your renbu goes up, your attack goes up. Skill is speed, and standard is weapon reach.)
Another different thing is character level up. Instead of getting stats from officers, you get XP. Which when you level up you get stat boost. they also added a sphere grid kinda thing where you get skills and some stat boosts.
Oh, and horses level up now, yea, your horse.

[FR]

My roommate got DW 6. You'll be pleasantly surprised just about all the stuff you loved in the older DW's are still around.
A major change is the actual attacking. There is a gauge called renbu now, it goes up when you combo a lot. The higher the renbu the more attacks get added to your combo. The feel of DW is still there, so don't worry about it too much. It feels pretty natural, yet the chaining between X and Triangle is gone. You just pick the light attack or the heavy attack. Pretty sweet trick they added is to attack while you're blocking, if it hits you combo a single guy for a ton of damage.
Weapon's are about the same, but you get 3 different types; attack, standard, and Skill. All are affected by your renbu (Example: If you have an Attack weapon, when your renbu goes up, your attack goes up. Skill is speed, and standard is weapon reach.)
Another different thing is character level up. Instead of getting stats from officers, you get XP. Which when you level up you get stat boost. they also added a sphere grid kinda thing where you get skills and some stat boosts.
Oh, and horses level up now, yea, your horse.

After reading this I'm defiantly getting it tomorrow! Edit:I just bought the game will post thoughts of game later.

[Unstable Hamster]

Yea, I was thinking of getting it as well so I could own it myself, yet I just realized I'm going to wait for the inevitable Xtreme version of it, and mooch off my friends game till it comes out.

[FR]

The initial releases and xtreame and what not have different types of gameplay.

BTW I got raped by Lu Bu twice.=(

Edit:Well the game is fun but the camera is annoying at times and I kinda miss the square and triangle combos but this is only like after 3 or 4 levels so don't flame me.:smile:

[Bigfoot]

MGS4 has a release date: June 12, 2008.

[Neo Samus]

Lets hope the date holds. That would be awesome for a big game like MGS4 to come out during the summer.

[Bigfoot]

Also, the multi-player beta test for Metal Gear Online will start in April for whoever pre-ordered it.

Annnnnnnnnd, now there's a bundle for MGS4.

80gb PS3
MGS4
Dual Shock 3 controller
_________________
$499

[Arek the Absolute]

Also, the multi-player best test for Metal Gear Online will start in April for whoever pre-ordered it.

Annnnnnnnnd, now there's a bundle for MGS4.

80gb PS3
MGS4
Dual Shock 3 controller
_________________
$499

Looks like that is when I am going to get a ps3.

[Unstable Hamster]

Who do we have to pre-order it from so we can get in the beta? I would love playing some MGS online.

[Bigfoot]

"Pre-Sell Program

Beginning April 2008, consumers that pre-order Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will receive the Metal Gear Saga 2.0 DVD, containing a Prologue that recaps the Metal Gear franchise, a 20th Anniversary retrospective, character bios for Big Boss, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and Solid Snake, plus a collection of international trailers of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. This pre-order package also contains an insert with a download code and special instructions for accessing the Metal Gear Online beta test when it goes live in late April. This special pre-order package will only be available while supplies last."

http://kotaku.com/362092/konami-clears-up-mgs4-facts-details-beta-pre+order-program

[Zombie]

Now,. I have never played a metal gear game before, but MGS4 looks awesome. Online sounds fun, and a bundle like that might sell a ps3 to me this summer.

[FR]

Now,. I have never played a metal gear game before, but MGS4 looks awesome. Online sounds fun, and a bundle like that might sell a ps3 to me this summer.

Yea you shouldn't play 4 without playing at least metal gear solid 1,2, and 3 which there is a collection coming out I believe.

Edit:http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/view.php?id=3744

No MGS4 PS3 bundle in Europe

Didn't know if Bigfoot's link said anything about it.

[Soma]

I got my "metal gear saga volume2" DVD today from Gamestop with the Metal Gear Online Beta code. DVD isn't 16:9 and it's not a bluray unfortunately. Still worth watching though. Who's doing the MGO beta? be sure to add my PSN ID "tragick" could always use more PSN friends.

[Brushfire]

So how about that Gran Turismo 5: Prolouge. I picked up my copy today and I gotta say that this is exactly as boring as GT4 was.

Burnout actually feels like your going fast.

[Schwaltzvald]

So how about that Gran Turismo 5: Prolouge. I picked up my copy today and I gotta say that this is exactly as boring as GT4 was.

Burnout actually feels like your going fast.

I thought the whole upper-class nascar racing would have hinted how boring it would have been. :lol:

[FR]

LittleBigPlanet Dated (http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/view.php?id=3936)

Yeah I know it's not an exact date but it still made me happy.

Edit: Yay, I'm a ninja now :P

[Penfold]

Quick question regarding PSN...how much do downloadable games generally cost? I hear PixelJunk Monsters is awesome, and Echochrome is interesting despite some flawed level design.

Also, for those who have a PS3 that does the whole PS2 software emulation thing, have you experienced much trouble with backwards compatibility?

[FR]

Doesn't the store tell you the price of the game? Average prices? I don't know that.

I have the 60 gig so my games run fine(the 60 gig is the one that doesn't emulate right?).

[Penfold]

Doesn't the store tell you the price of the game? Average prices? I don't know that.

I have the 60 gig so my games run fine(the 60 gig is the one that doesn't emulate right?).

I had quickly checked the PSN website as well as the wikipedia articles regarding PSN, and didn't see pricing.

The 60gb has the PS2 hardware built in, so 100% of PS2 games would work on it. That's the way I'm kinda leaning, though it seems a lot easier to get ahold of a new 80gb model so I'm just trying to figure out how good/bad the software emulation to see if I should even consider it.

[Penfold]

^ Ended up going with an 80gb. The anticipation of MGS4 got the best of me :P. Looks like I'll be playing MGS4 once the system arrives...

EDIT: Really hate eBay sometimes. The seller of the 80gb copped out after I won and paid for the damn thing, and cancelled the payment. I just said "fuck it" and bought a 40gb cuz it was right there and cheaper. I'm regretting a little bit the loss of backward compatibility, but I still have a PS2 hooked up so whatever I guess.

[Penfold]

Tried the demos for both PixelJunk Monsters and Echochrome last night.

Echochrome is really cool...in principle. The controls were just not responsive enough - either you use the analog sticks and the stage would rotate too slowly, or you use motion controls and you don't have the precision necessary. Playing it, I thought, "This is a time where Wiimote pointer functionality would really make this design work." It may just require more patience to get used to their motion control, but that'd be time and frustration I'm unwilling to put into a play mechanic that should otherwise be intuitive.

PixelJunk Monsters is rather simple, and really fun. In essence, you build various types of defensive towers on trees, which cost coins. You unlock further types and can upgrade individual towers using another resource type, which is rarer. Basically, different types of enemies come in waves to your town and it's up to you to build defensive structures to defeat the enemies prior to reaching your town. After playing through the demo, $10 still seems a little steep, but after I'm through MGS4 I'll probably get it.

[Strike911]

2.40 Firmware is up.

.... so uh....

... now we just need patches for the custom soundtracks. I wonder if any games will get patches this week.

Thank goodness for the in game XMB.

It's about time.

Although, it is a little weird right now when I push the PSButton and it pops up. Really cool, but i'm just not used to it yet I guess. :)

[linkspast]

I can get a 30Gb(I think its 30) Ps3 for $300 Is it worth it? I am leaning towards it mostly because of the blu-ray, So how is as a stand alone Blu-ray Player. and other than MGS4 what other games should I consider?

[atmuh]

I can get a 30Gb(I think its 30) Ps3 for $300 Is it worth it? I am leaning towards it mostly because of the blu-ray, So how is as a stand alone Blu-ray Player. and other than MGS4 what other games should I consider?

i too am considering this if that is the correct price
i havent been following any ps3 news so i have no idea

[Penfold]

I can get a 30Gb(I think its 30) Ps3 for $300 Is it worth it? I am leaning towards it mostly because of the blu-ray, So how is as a stand alone Blu-ray Player. and other than MGS4 what other games should I consider?

Not a bad price. Did a lot of shopping around for mine, and it was $250 before shipping. I think retail is still $400?

Anyway, it works well as a blu-ray player. Never had any trouble. Interesting little quirk about the controller is that it won't automatically shut off after x-minutes of inactivity like the Wiimote or 360 controller, which really makes it nice as a blu-ray player (if the phone rings or whatever, you won't have to wait those extra 3 seconds for the controller to turn on before you can pause). The battery life with the controllers is also quite long, so it's not that big a deal that it doesn't automatically shut off in that regard. I think they also have a remote designed for blu-ray playback (just like they had the dvd remote for the PS2) for added convenience.

Other games to consider...well, the only physical game I own for the PS3 at the moment is MGS4. I'm thinking about getting Uncharted one of these days, otherwise I'm drawing a blank on exclusive stuff currently available. In terms of exclusive downloadable games, Pixeljunk Monsters is great - relatively simple, but so much fun. They had it on sale for $5, but I don't know if it's still at that price. It's also rather nice to have access to some good PS1 games available on PSN, though the selection is pretty limited right now.

At any rate, I'm pretty happy with it primarily as a blu-ray player, as that and MGS4 were my two reasons to get it.

[Vivi22]

Other games to consider...well, the only physical game I own for the PS3 at the moment is MGS4. I'm thinking about getting Uncharted one of these days, otherwise I'm drawing a blank on exclusive stuff currently available. In terms of exclusive downloadable games, Pixeljunk Monsters is great - relatively simple, but so much fun. They had it on sale for $5, but I don't know if it's still at that price. It's also rather nice to have access to some good PS1 games available on PSN, though the selection is pretty limited right now.

Uncharted, Resistance, Ratchet & Clank, Warhawk, and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue are all great. And there are also all the multi-platform games worth having of course.

[Blue Magic]

I'm probably going to buy a new PS3 either today or tomorrow. I was planning on getting a HDTV first, but I need to go ahead and get the PS3 before they drop SOCOM Confrontation.

I will most likely be playing my ps3 on a regular, 36" Flat-Screen TV with the red, white, and yellow component cables, and I just wanted to know how good are the graphics displayed on a regular TV using those cables?

I'm sure a HDTV would make things look better, but will it really be that big of a difference?

And also, I heard rumors that playing a PS3 on the regular flat-screen could mess up the tv. I don't see how that likely, but has anyone heard or experience something like that?

[Schwaltzvald]

Siren: New Translation is a downloadable game on the PS3, not sure how much it costs though

[Faulken]

Siren: New Translation is a downloadable game on the PS3, not sure how much it costs though


Think it's $20 for the whole thing, or you can get sets of 4 episodes for somewhere around $5? That's what it is in £ anyway, and it's usually the same in $, not equivelant value.

Eats up a fair bit of hard drive space though, not surprising given how graphically impressive it is.


I will most likely be playing my ps3 on a regular, 36" Flat-Screen TV with the red, white, and yellow component cables, and I just wanted to know how good are the graphics displayed on a regular TV using those cables?

I'm sure a HDTV would make things look better, but will it really be that big of a difference?


It really tends to depend entirely on the game (or blu ray movie), I have a small, but high quality HD tv and the PS3 wired in with HDMI cable, my friend has a decent sized old tv. I've only noticed a jaw dropping difference for Metal Gear Solid 4 and Ratchet and Clank for games, and as for Blu Ray, I only notice a significant difference with films made AFTER it was widely implemented, like Sweeney Todd.

Stuff like GTA4, the only thing I notice differently is that the map icons etc can be harder to make out, but the overall difference between SD and HD output for them is nothing world changing. I imagine the trend of the big releases being more visually optimised will continue with Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, the PSN Wipeout, etc...

[atmuh]

ya text is always smaller on a regular tv which can be kinda annoying

[Faulken]

ya text is always smaller on a regular tv which can be kinda annoying

A lot of the PS3 general menu text, particularly the virtual keyboard, has needlessly small/hard to make out text even on a decent size tv.

I also wish you could change the general font colour from white-some of my favourite themes are automatically ruled out because they make everything impossible to read.

[Schwaltzvald]

Eats up a fair bit of hard drive space though, not surprising given how graphically impressive it is.

While I enjoyed playing the original Siren and Siren 2 (good ole buddy got an imported copy and already modded ps2 at his home :D ) I was rather disappointed on Siren: New Translation. For the most part it's easier than the original.

I understand not wanting to scare away potential players from a good game due to difficulty, but CMON!!!

I still enjoyed it and while graphically impressive, Just felt too easy for me... I'd still recommend it if you haven't played the original Siren game. For those that have, S:NT gives an altered story/perspective.

[Faulken]

I still enjoyed it and while graphically impressive, Just felt too easy for me... I'd still recommend it if you haven't played the original Siren game. For those that have, S:NT gives an altered story/perspective.

Yeah, that'd be me. These games passed me by back in the day. This was pretty easy, but had a very good atmosphere. I usually am content with that-not one to complain about difficulty as long as a game's immersive or fun.

The graphics seem particularly impressive for a purely downloadable game, I'd say it's easily the best proper digitally distributed game so far. I exclude the likes of Bionic Commando Rearmed in that though, because they're more made AS downloadable games-I could easily see Siren being on a disc.
I also enjoyed the Ratchet and Clank one, but it wasn't really anything but a pleasant by the book distraction for a few hours.

[Schwaltzvald]

I could easily see Siren being on a disc.

Funny you should say that, as Japan and Europe as of now have the game on disc, though no known US launch if ever. (bring Siren 2 NTSC god damn it! I shouldn't have to get a friend to import and mod his ps2!)

[linkspast]

Life with Paystation > Nintendo`s weather + News channel.
But go figure...

[Zutnunzor]

Hey, long time, no post, was gonna make a new thread completely but thought I would go here first.

BASICALLY, I'm looking for 2-4 player games ranging all the way back to archaic PS1, to the shiny, misslekickalicious PS3, I mean I'm looking for adventure games, racing games (serious and comical, ya know, like kart-esque) anything that is easy to get into, something I can play with the girlfriend and she will actually play. She loves most adventure games from the ps1 era, but ps2 and beyond, Don't know. So im asking for recommendations of the most epic sort.

Any ideas ladies and gents?

[linkspast]

Crash Team Racing, is a pretty fun cart racer. I remember as a kid a lot of the time we only had one controller and just switched off playing Crash Bandicoot every time you died or completed a level. That was fun.

[Zutnunzor]

CTR is awesome, Better than Mario Kart 64 in some ways, more skill IMO with the drifting/boosting combination, I ordered that, Crash Bandicoot 1 and 2, Rayman, Gex, Croc, and Spyro the Dragon off Ebay.

Noone else has any other suggestions?

[Bahamut]

Has there been any good games that came out recently or will come out soon for the PS3?

[Vivi22]

Has there been any good games that came out recently or will come out soon for the PS3?

Not too much.

Just:
Little Big Planet
Resistance 2
Valkyria Chronicles

and every multi-platform title worth owning from the last few months.

[Schwaltzvald]

All I can say is HOLYSHIT GOOD GAME! Now what about other possibilities...

Megaman3 & 4, Super R-type, Tetris ect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg0ZBHdz7wM

:)!!

[Bahamut]

So I played a little Resistance 2...and is it just me, or is the AI retarded? Their aim is either pretty ridiculous or pretty crappy in normal mode, and have a pretty generous recognition of people far away from them. The graphics is also pretty underwhelming for a PS3 title this long after launch.

Lastly, I hate those Chameleons :sad: .

[anosou]

Worth getting a PS3 yet? I got a fat paycheck this month and I'm thinking about it. Since I've got a 360 already (and I'll buy most multi-platform titles to that one for the achievements >:P) I'm not really interested in anything but exclusives and downloadable games.

enlighten me

[Bahamut]

Well, I don't know too much about the exclusives, but the game I've played the most on my PS3 is easily Super Stardust HD, the downloadable game. That game is such a fun shooter.

[Avatar of Justice]

One thing that sort of confuses me is why Valkyria Chronicles was released as a PS3 exclusive. Sega doesn't really do a lot of exclusives. Oh well, glad I have a PS3!

[K999]

Many users here have wii numbers and xbox usernames listed on the side but almost no one has listed thier psn id's. I still play warhawk once or twice a week, feel free to add me if any of you own or still play that game.

[prophetik]

i'm thinking about buying a ps3 down the road, but if i get it i want one of the backwards-compatible ps3 units. are they that much more to find on ebay? what types are backwards compatible?

if it's more than just a normal ps3 and a new ps2, then i don't think i'd go for it.

[Gollgagh]

well shoot, I didn't realize you could put your PSN ID

I'll give you half as guess as to what it is

[LuketheXjesse]

http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mgs4-le.jpg

Seriously. It's worth it.

[anosou]

http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mgs4-le.jpg

Seriously. It's worth it.

Never been a fan of MGS, more into JRPGs (yeah.. i know..)
what's this Valkyria Chronicles I've been hearing about btw?

[K999]

Never been a fan of MGS, more into JRPGs (yeah.. i know..)
what's this Valkyria Chronicles I've been hearing about btw?


If you are a fan of JRPG's you will love this game for it's storytelling. Plus, even if you take out the story from the game is still good as a third person shooter. Don't devoid yourself of the experience in playing this game.

[Bahamut]

Oh wow, I didn't realize you could put your PSN ID either.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

One thing that sort of confuses me is why Valkyria Chronicles was released as a PS3 exclusive. Sega doesn't really do a lot of exclusives. Oh well, glad I have a PS3!

It'll be hitting the 360 eventually. This IS Sega we're talking about. In fact it was originally slated to be on the 360. When questioned, Sega responded with "we don't want to close any doors".

And you can't trust a damned word out of Kojima's mouth ever since he said MGS2 would be his final game, so this'll be hitting the 360 one day or another. If Konami says we wants moar munny, then it'll happen.

[anosou]

It'll be hitting the 360 eventually. This IS Sega we're talking about. In fact it was originally slated to be on the 360. When questioned, Sega responded with "we don't want to close any doors".

And you can't trust a damned word out of Kojima's mouth ever since he said MGS2 would be his final game, so this'll be hitting the 360 one day or another. If Konami says we wants moar munny, then it'll happen.

In other words, I'll stick to 360 for a while. Damn, FFXIII on 360 really killed PS3 for me :D

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

In other words, I'll stick to 360 for a while. Damn, FFXIII on 360 really killed PS3 for me :D

That, Star Ocean 4, and Tales of Vesperia are what effectively killed the prospect of a PS3 to me. If those games on the 360, then there's nothing to say anything else won't be either.

Of course that isn't to say we won't see a lot of 360 games on the PS3. Bioshock is there, and I'm pretty sure Star Ocean 4 and Last Remnant are at least getting Japanese releases eventually.

Also mark my words, FFVersusXIII WILL be heading to the 360.

[anosou]

That, Star Ocean 4, and Tales of Vesperia are what effectively killed the prospect of a PS3 to me. If those games on the 360, then there's nothing to say anything else won't be either.

Of course that isn't to say we won't see a lot of 360 games on the PS3. Bioshock is there, and I'm pretty sure Star Ocean 4 and Last Remnant are at least getting Japanese releases eventually.

Also mark my words, FFVersusXIII WILL be heading to the 360.

Agree'd with pretty much everything there. too bad Vesperia and SO4 ain't out in PAL-country yet.

"We can't stop here, this is PAL-country!"

Little Big Planet still looks freaking awesome but one game isn't enough.

[prophetik]

i'm thinking about buying a ps3 down the road, but if i get it i want one of the backwards-compatible ps3 units. are they that much more to find on ebay? what types are backwards compatible?

if it's more than just a normal ps3 and a new ps2, then i don't think i'd go for it.
i hate being ignored

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

If I'm not mistaken, both original models of the PS3(the 20 gig and the 60 gig models I think) both have actual hardware emulation, as in the original PS2 components are actually built into the PS3. You'd wanna look around for anything that says that it's a 2006 model or so.

As for eBay, not so sure. Hope you find one.

[anosou]

Your google-fu is weak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Retail_configurations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PS3_backwards_incompatible_PS2_and_Playsta tion_games - this one seems incomplete but still.

[K999]

I have original 60 gig with backwards compatibility and I tried playing my ps2 games on ps3 only two times. It went something like "Hey, it works", and that's it. Once you get used to current gen games its hard to go back to ps2. I realized that I have this fancy new hardware and I want to play new games on it, not reminisce on old titles. I don't think you should let backwards compatibility be a deal breaker for you.

[anosou]

I have original 60 gig with backwards compatibility and I tried playing my ps2 games on ps3 only two times. It went something like "Hey, it works", and that's it. Once you get used to current gen games its hard to go back to ps2. I realized that I have this fancy new hardware and I want to play new games on it, not reminisce on old titles. I don't think you should let backwards compatibility be a deal breaker for you.

True, except that PS2 is still the best console ever, anyone that disagrees is a [insert radical political association and/or fundamentalist believer in religion of your choice here].

Honestly though, if you don't have a PS2, get one. If you have a PS2, why care about backwards compatibility?

[Bahamut]

True, except that PS2 is still the best console ever, anyone that disagrees is a [insert radical political association and/or fundamentalist believer in religion of your choice here].

Honestly though, if you don't have a PS2, get one. If you have a PS2, why care about backwards compatibility?

Only need to care about using one console instead of switching between two?

[anosou]

Only need to care about using one console instead of switching between two?

Okay you win.
But keep in mind they don't even have the same connections to your TV (except if you're going PS3+scart, then there's the scart hub) so you just have to change the channel.
I guess my main point is that software emulation will never be as good as the real deal so if you're planning on playing a lot of PS2 you should just get a PS2.

[K999]

PS2 library is amazing. In fact, 9 out of top 10 games of all time for me come from the ps2 library. However, playing old games is an exception to the rule rather than the norm for me. Whenever I feel nostalgic, I open up my neatly packaged ps2 and play games on ps2 itself. Doing the whole routine reminds me that I am putting all this effort in order to experience something special. But whenever I insert ps2 game on ps3, I feel like I am playing an old game. That's it.

If going back and playing old games is norm for you, then by all means try to get backwards compatible ps3 if you can. Otherwise, stick to latest incarnation of ps3 hardware and keep your ps2 for playing your ps2 games.

[Thin Crust]

That's it! I'm finally subscribing.

EDIT: Here's a little video for Malaki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6MvBAJrIWQ&feature=related

Notice what it says about PS3 sales.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

It's too long for me to watch the whole thing because I immediately got the gist of what you're trying to say here. You think I'm trying to bash the PS3 out of some sort of fanboyism. This could not be further from the truth, and you are ignorant for thinking this.

Notice how I didn't say anything about sales of the PS3. Number of sales are irrelevant when a company wants to make more money. Yeah, MGS4 might have sold fine on the PS3(from what I heard, it hadn't but maybe that info's wrong. I don't care either way), but if Konami says we want to tap into the potentially HUEG MGS audience on the 360, well then that's that, isn't it?

Hell, when I bought my 360 I took a huge risk, but I wanted to play Halo 3, Dead or Alive 4 and Ninja Gaiden 2. I also wanted to play FFXIII and KH3, but the PS3's initial 500 price tag was too much for me, so I made a choice, and even though I risked big buying a system I thought I'd use minutely, I haven''t looked back since. I'm loving the hell out of it and FFXIII coming to the 360 proves 2 things. Good things come to those who wait and game publishers are quite fickle. If the PS3 manages to put out stuff I like and gives me another price cut, then I'll eat it up. As is, LBP interests me quite a bit. Quit being dumb.

Also Tekken 6 isn't an exclusive anymore. :-P

Edit: Wow I actually went back to watch the video again... Most of its points are now rendered post-2008 irrelevant.

[Avatar of Justice]

PS2 library is amazing. In fact, 9 out of top 10 games of all time for me come from the ps2 library. However, playing old games is an exception to the rule rather than the norm for me. Whenever I feel nostalgic, I open up my neatly packaged ps2 and play games on ps2 itself. Doing the whole routine reminds me that I am putting all this effort in order to experience something special. But whenever I insert ps2 game on ps3, I feel like I am playing an old game. That's it.

If going back and playing old games is norm for you, then by all means try to get backwards compatible ps3 if you can. Otherwise, stick to latest incarnation of ps3 hardware and keep your ps2 for playing your ps2 games.

Back in July when I got my PS3 I also bought a new PS2. My old PS2 no longer would play anything but PS1 games without problems. I figured rather than tracking down an original 60GB PS3 off the 'Net that played PS2 games somewhat buggily, I'd be better off just forking out the cash for a new PS2 guaranteed to work. I'd like to have the upscaling the PS3 can do, but oh well. I gotta keep an old TV around for NES and SNES games anyhow.

I am currently without a 360 and my only regret is that Square-Enix hasn't set a PS3 release date for The Last Remnant yet. Almost every game I really want to play (except MGS4) is on both PS3 and 360 eventually so whatevs. I for one am happy to have a console/Blu Ray player now that I've forked out the cash for an HDTV. Most games just looking fucking amazing in HD.

[LuketheXjesse]

If you are a fan of JRPG's you will love [Metal Gear Solid 4] for it's storytelling. Plus, even if you take out the story from the game is still good as a third person shooter. Don't devoid yourself of the experience in playing this game.

He's absoluely, positively right.

[prophetik]

dur, just bought a CECHA01 for 275$. what should i get? i get everything for super cheap thanks to my new job at gamecrazy, so list everything you got. note that i have a 360, PS2 and a PSP, so i've probably played it if it's cross-platform, if it's on PS2 i've likely got it, and if there's cool stuff with the handheld i'd like to know about it. i don't want any music or rhythm games, as i play them on the 360.

here's what i'm already thinking about.

MGS4
inFAMOUS
MLB09 The Show (maybe)
Uncharted games
Killzone 2

opinions required on these games required before purchase:
resistance games (haven't heard much about either)
warhawk (never really heard of it)
any of the NFS games (supposed to be fun, which is what i care about)
LBP (don't care about level editing...is it fun besides that?)

also, besides linux, what other cool stuff is there i can do?

[Thin Crust]

I bought Killzone 2 and absolutely hated it. That is until about 6 hours into the game. It forces you to use a completely different style of play that I've never used before. This is due to the terrible controls that is supposed to make the guns feel heavy. I found out that the best thing you can do in the single player campaign is to keep firing at the enemies cover while running up to it and walking beside them and melee-ing (the only thing that you can actually hit with) them to death. I haven't tried any of the online play yet because I'm having way too much fun with resistance 2 online.

So here's my thoughts on resistance. The first game was awesome, but nowadays lacks any online fan base. You might want to play it for the storyline and to experience the awesome world that insomniac created. Speaking of which, when I beat Resistance 2, I saw in the credits a special thanks to Naughty Dog. I saw another special thanks to Naughty Dog in the credits for Killzone 2 as well. (I think) Does anyone know why?

But anyway, when I bought resistance 2, I was thrown for a loop. The sequel wasn't resistance at all. The controls worked differently, it was much more creepy, Nathan Hale isn't the same person from the first game and you face completely different enemies than in the first game. I honestly didn't care much for the single player game. But the online co-op makes it completely worthwhile. It played kind of like an MMO. In co-op mode, there are 3 classes. One can take damage, one can dish it out, and one can heal. All 3 classes are extremely well balanced, and you need all three types to do well. I currently have 2 level 14 characters in that mode. What's even better is that the levels mutate. I swear that they take different levels and paste them together for different missions. And you run around the map in several different paths trying to complete certain objectives. And it evolves in game. For instance, there is a section of the co-op mode where you need to guard the tunnel entrance. If you do poorly (a bunch of people die) the objective will be short. But if you do really well, they will send bigger and bigger waves of enemies at you. It works so well. And competitive mode? I barely touched it yet. The co-op is too much fun to get away from.

One last thing. Is there a way to play music in the background? I can't figure out a way to do that.

[prophetik]

ok, so both resistance games sound good.

is the first worth playing more than once? like, i play halo 2 and 3 a lot in single-player because it's so damn fun. i rarely play anything online anymore. so, would it be worth it for just single/coop? also, do either allow for online coop modes?

[Thin Crust]

ok, so both resistance games sound good.

is the first worth playing more than once? like, i play halo 2 and 3 a lot in single-player because it's so damn fun. i rarely play anything online anymore. so, would it be worth it for just single/coop? also, do either allow for online coop modes?
Absolutely. I've beaten it at least 5ive times. Also, you can probably get it pretty cheap used since it's a launch title. I think it's also on the greatest hit's list too. If you're not completely sure, you can download the resistance 1 demo.

[Vivi22]

I bought Killzone 2 and absolutely hated it. That is until about 6 hours into the game. It forces you to use a completely different style of play that I've never used before. This is due to the terrible controls that is supposed to make the guns feel heavy. I found out that the best thing you can do in the single player campaign is to keep firing at the enemies cover while running up to it and walking beside them and melee-ing (the only thing that you can actually hit with) them to death. I haven't tried any of the online play yet because I'm having way too much fun with resistance 2 online.

I had no trouble playing through Killzone 2 firing from cover the way they intended. The guns aren't half as innacurate as you make them sound, and the multiplayer relies pretty heavily on more traditional run and gun tactics which work surprisingly well given how the single player plays.

Also, I will agree that Resistance 2 online is great for the co-op mode. Competitive is pretty standard fare just with more people than you'll find on your typical console FPS. The single player was a huge let down for me though. The story was pretty boring and so poorly told that I often had little idea where I was or why. The pacing was also pretty bad if you ask me. Maybe I'm just being picky there, but the game rarely built up any excitement for me, and by the time I was getting pumped fights would be over. Or I'd run into parts so unfairly difficult that I was dying frequently for reasons largely beyond my control and just get frustrated. Case in point; the invisible enemies that one hit kill you if you don't kill them in that whole second and a half warning you get.

[Schwaltzvald]

I was dying frequently for reasons largely beyond my control and just get frustrated. Case in point; the invisible enemies that one hit kill you if you don't kill them in that whole second and a half warning you get.

Was it something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWsoMcNJ5Yk&feature=channel)?

I ask because when I looked at some official gameplay of the actual creature it looked way too easy and slow to be killed by it...

[prophetik]

i picked up new copies of MGS4 and Resistance: Fall of Man today for seven dollars. i love my job.

just need the system to get here - probably thursday, i'd think. tracking info hasn't updated yet.

[Vivi22]

Was it something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWsoMcNJ5Yk&feature=channel)?

I ask because when I looked at some official gameplay of the actual creature it looked way too easy and slow to be killed by it...

At work right now so I can't watch youtube videos, but the creatures I'm talking about tended to be within maybe ten feet by the time you noticed them, and using anything other than the shotgun to kill them usually meant they'd pounce at you and kill you before you put enough bullets in them to stop them.

It didn't happen all the time, but if you happened to be looking in the wrong direction when they showed up you'd usually find yourself hitting continue and trying again.

[Schwaltzvald]

What the hell? (http://kotaku.com/5302628/blazblue-gets-psp-support-via-remote-play)

Any one here with a PSP know anything about this article..?

I've already preordered the title before this article came out but this added info intrigues me...

[Vyse of Arcadia]

i picked up new copies of MGS4 and Resistance: Fall of Man today for seven dollars. i love my job.

I love your job too. Where do you work with such fantastic deals?

Also, I'm buying a PS3 within a month or so. I plan on picking up Valkyria Chronicles and Little Big Planet (which should give you a good idea of my gaming preferences.) Any recommendations for other games?

[prophetik]

i turned in my phatty ps2 and a memory card, which normally would get around 20$. i get an extra 20% per trade in, plus an additional extra 20% off of any used merch that i buy. except we just traded the used box and disc out for the 'store copy' of the disc - that is, the one we open so people can look at it. so i basically got them new, except i opened them three days ago to show someone's mom the specifics on the rating on the box :<

i work at gamecrazy.

[Schwaltzvald]

I love your job too. Where do you work with such fantastic deals?

Also, I'm buying a PS3 within a month or so. I plan on picking up Valkyria Chronicles and Little Big Planet (which should give you a good idea of my gaming preferences.) Any recommendations for other games?

If you've never played the previous titles and don't mind some grindaen, there's Disgaea 3, though I do recommend Deadspace if you've never played it.
Not sure where exactly your interests lay as I'd personally try a variety of titles. I even got Wolf 3D off PSN along with Savage Moon for some "Tower Defense" gaming.

few other titles in my set...

Valkyrie Chronicles
Cross Edge
BlazBlue:[Calamity Trigger] (Getting the special edition through preorder with amazon for the same price as the regular version.)
Silent Hill: Homecoming
StreetFighter IV
Siren:Blood Curse (always hated going through scenarios involving helpless little girls)
Sega Ultimate Collection
Resident Evil 5 (got it cheap from a friend for $10)

Forgetting a couple more though this should be enough...

[sgx]

What the hell? (http://kotaku.com/5302628/blazblue-gets-psp-support-via-remote-play)

Any one here with a PSP know anything about this article..?

I've already preordered the title before this article came out but this added info intrigues me...

There are a few games that can do this...all the Pixeljunk games, and Lair for some reason. There's delay between input and seeing the reaction on screen since basically the psp is sending control input to the ps3 which is then encoding a live video stream and sending it back to the PSP via your wifi, LAN connection, or internet connection. It's not good for action, but I played a bunch of Pixeljunk Monsters like that. I

[Gollgagh]

Yeah, I can't stand that kind of delay (Hell, I have problems playing PS2 games on an HDTV) so I pretty much hate remote play for that reason.

But seriously, BlazBlue? How the hell would you even be able to play that at all? Having a fighting game being remote-play enabled is a terrible, terrible idea.

[PlastikBag]

So here's my thoughts on resistance. The first game was awesome, but nowadays lacks any online fan base. You might want to play it for the storyline and to experience the awesome world that insomniac created. Speaking of which, when I beat Resistance 2, I saw in the credits a special thanks to Naughty Dog. I saw another special thanks to Naughty Dog in the credits for Killzone 2 as well. (I think) Does anyone know why?

I think that Naughty Dog shares a lot of their techniques and technology with other first party developers. Naughty Dog is the shit. Have you seen Uncharted? I think it's easily one of the prettiest games out there, and one of my favorite games this gen. The game also had no load times besides the initial load.

[Vyse of Arcadia]

If you've never played the previous titles and don't mind some grindaen, there's Disgaea 3

I absolutely loved the first one. The second is sitting on my shelf. Still haven't played it for some reason.

And BlazBlue looks...awesome.

[Schwaltzvald]

Yeah, I can't stand that kind of delay (Hell, I have problems playing PS2 games on an HDTV) so I pretty much hate remote play for that reason.

But seriously, BlazBlue? How the hell would you even be able to play that at all? Having a fighting game being remote-play enabled is a terrible, terrible idea.

I would be amazed if they managed to fix that lag delay. Bad enough I would get some free matches on SFIV and would get lag spikes from out of nowhere; imagining that happening to me if I ever get a PSP would make me want to almost chuck the hand held out the window...

Also nothing like eating something and its Shoryukening your gut while in a tournament; causing you to either drop out and keep your dignity or... well... yeah...

PSP would save so many... quarters... if it did right with the timing...

[Thin Crust]

I think that Naughty Dog shares a lot of their techniques and technology with other first party developers. Naughty Dog is the shit. Have you seen Uncharted? I think it's easily one of the prettiest games out there, and one of my favorite games this gen. The game also had no load times besides the initial load.

I downloaded the demo and really liked it. But I decided that since I'm El Cheapo, I wont pay the big price tag for a 7 hour game. Instead I'm currently in the process of watching a walkthrough with commentary. I'm definately picking up Among Thieves though.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

Well if you're wanting for fighters, Blazblue just came out today(didn't have it when I went in earlier today, but gonna pick up my 360 copy later today).

IGN gave it a 9.4.

A bloody 9.4.

Have you ever seen a game get a 9.4? Ok fine it's probably happened before but I wasn't paying attention. :-P

If you're a fighting game fan and loved Guilty Gear at all, there is no question. You WILL pick this game up. Also the first prints of the game on both systems is a limited edition that has a 44-track soundtrack and a DVD full of extras and character strategies. Best part is that you're not paying the "standard" limited edition premium.

Go buy and be happy.

[Gollgagh]

Well if you're wanting for fighters, Blazblue just came out today(didn't have it when I went in earlier today, but gonna pick up my 360 copy later today).

IGN gave it a 9.4.

A bloody 9.4.

Have you ever seen a game get a 9.4? Ok fine it's probably happened before but I wasn't paying attention. :-P

If you're a fighting game fan and loved Guilty Gear at all, there is no question. You WILL pick this game up. Also the first prints of the game on both systems is a limited edition that has a 44-track soundtrack and a DVD full of extras and character strategies. Best part is that you're not paying the "standard" limited edition premium.

Go buy and be happy.

sheeit imma have to get this

[Schwaltzvald]

sheeit imma have to get this

YOU BETTER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXGu0w1u6A&feature=related)~!

Now if you're getting the XBOX360 version I'll be disappointed in not being able to challenge you...

offtopic* I wouldn't mind seeing a pop up or some chime whenever some one sends me a notification as I didn't notice it till much later...

Gollgagh can I assume you meant the one on the left side..?

[Thin Crust]

So does anyone know if last remnant will ever come to ps3?

And while I'm at it, when I was playing resistance 2, I had a level 18 spec ops, and when I logged on one day, it magically went up to level 21. The next time I logged on, it went to level 27. The next morning I decided to check it before I went to work and it went to max level 30. WTF? I actually wanted to level it up myself. A little while later, my soldier went from level 16 to level 21. It stopped after that, but has that happened to anyone else?

[Avatar of Justice]

So does anyone know if last remnant will ever come to ps3?

And while I'm at it, when I was playing resistance 2, I had a level 18 spec ops, and when I logged on one day, it magically went up to level 21. The next time I logged on, it went to level 27. The next morning I decided to check it before I went to work and it went to max level 30. WTF? I actually wanted to level it up myself. A little while later, my soldier went from level 16 to level 21. It stopped after that, but has that happened to anyone else?

I think Square-Enix got asked about a Last Remnant PS3 release at a press conference and pretty much ignored/dodged the question. It's kind of disappointing because The Last Remnant seemed like a spiritual successor of sorts to FF12. My only choice would be to play the PC version and either drag my PC downstairs to play it on my TV, or just play it on my smaller computer monitor.

[Schwaltzvald]

With Last Remnant, you're better off getting the PC version (http://na.square-enix.com/remnant/pc.html) if only to get the "extra features" and "improved gameplay".

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

So does anyone know if last remnant will ever come to ps3?

I wouldn't hold your breath on it, but I also wouldn't lose any sleep over it either.

I thought the game was pretty fun on the 360(graphical glitches and all), but the farther I got into the story, the more disinterested I was becoming. Also in order to actually survive several story battles, you'll need to make it a habit to do ALL the sidequests which encompass over 50% of the game, or you WILL be murdered. In fact, there are characters and parts of the world map(like towns n' stuff) that you'll outright miss if you don't go through all the mundane fetch quests.

A bloody shame since I thought so highly of the game originally.

[Schwaltzvald]

I thought the game was pretty fun on the 360(graphical glitches and all), but the farther I got into the story, the more disinterested I was becoming. Also in order to actually survive several story battles, you'll need to make it a habit to do ALL the sidequests which encompass over 50% of the game, or you WILL be murdered. In fact, there are characters and parts of the world map(like towns n' stuff) that you'll outright miss if you don't go through all the mundane fetch quests.

A bloody shame since I thought so highly of the game originally.

Considering the reviews on it (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3171517&p=4&sec=REVIEWS) and among others opinions on the net, it's sounding like another throw-away title the 360 got shafted with...

Perhaps it's a good thing it didn't see a PS3 release..?

[prophetik]

the problem with the 360 version is that it was designed to be installed to the hard drive - you get lots of tearing if you don't. the pc version gets off better, but it doesn't work well with older systems.

it's a good game if you go for completion from the start. if you don't, it's very, very difficult.

[Soma]

the problem with the 360 version is that it was designed to be installed to the hard drive - you get lots of tearing if you don't. the pc version gets off better, but it doesn't work well with older systems.

it's a good game if you go for completion from the start. if you don't, it's very, very difficult.
There's an excellent demo on Steam for the PC version of The Last Remnant. Having never played the xbox version after seeing negative reviews I was pleasantly suprised by the PC demo. It works extremely well with the Xbox 360 controller.

[CHIPP Damage]

Yo, PS3 users. I wonder if you know a way that I could watch inbedded videos on the PS3 internet browser. I want to watch Colbert Report episodes on it but it doesn't seem to load.

[Schwaltzvald]

I watch youtube videos on my PS3 on occasion. I think regardless whether you're on a PS3/360/PC, if you're not in the United States you're out of luck... However I can imagine some one uploading episodes of the show on a torrent...

Then again I don't watch the show personally, I've just heard about some countries not being allowed to see certain content. Much like what happened with Pandora and the UK I believe...

[CHIPP Damage]

I think regardless whether you're on a PS3/360/PC, if you're not in the United States you're out of luck.

I added you to my PS3 friends list, Schwaltz. You're the first. I think you're referring to the region-locking thing they do for the full episodes on the internet, but actually Japan isn't locked out. How lucky I am. I'm thinking about trying to install Yellowdog Linux 6.2 on my PS3 which comes with Firefox. Then I can probably watch flash videos. I was shocked to find out that you can do stuff like that on a Playstation. How nuts is that?!

[Schwaltzvald]

Well as I said I've watched Youtube videos on my PS3 before just fine, but I can't say that all flash-based vid sites work on it as I haven't actually attempted to check them all.

Also lately I haven't been on due to me trying to download via torrenting part of a 416GB album collection and my internet keeps getting killed which causes me to have to reset the router/modem every half hour or so; my isp sure must hate me. :lol:

Nonetheless, what games do you have/play? Perhaps I can go a couple of rounds with ya on Blazblue some time. :)!!

[I-n-j-i-n]

Thank you Sony, for keeping me in suspense on the pending PS3 Slim just when I got enough money to buy one. Damn it.

[Schwaltzvald]

I'm waiting on the info for the new model; especially whether they're bringing back PS2 playability via software or hardware and if any new features would be on it. If nothing new, I simply miss out on the slimmer package.

However if they make it worth getting, meh I'd probably get it and give the older model to a good friend.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Backward compatibility would be nice I guess, though I'm not sure it still warrants getting $50 in gamestop for my $400+ PS2 package with a modem (freakin' useless, that modem. ugh). Still too suspenseful with the PS3 Slim maybe being released at $299.. Unlikely but still.

[Thin Crust]

Maybe they'll follow the PSPgo's example.

[prophetik]

i hope not, that'll drive game stores out of business really quick. digital distribution really screws over resellers.

[Thin Crust]

Actually I was talking about the price. But exclusively digital sounds like a bad idea as well when it comes to a home console.

[Schwaltzvald]

Actually I was talking about the price. But exclusively digital sounds like a bad idea as well when it comes to a home console.

Especially if it's tied to a particular system... unless of course there is a way to "giftwrap" a digital hand-me-down.

[prophetik]

or give it to your friend without giving away your account, or download it for people who don't have high-speed access, or a lot of other issues.

[CHIPP Damage]

You guys mentioned that rumored new slim PS3. Just when I got enough money to buy my PS3, I noticed the rumors on the net but I didn't want to wait because there was no way to tell how long I'd be waiting. However, this talk about backwards compatibility has me kind of kicking myself for that one. Then again, if I bought a Japanese PS3 that had backwards compatibility, it might not work with all my American PS2 games. Maybe I made the right choice afterall.

Schwaltz, I definitely want to play some BlazBlue with you when I get it. Right now, I don't own any games for it. I downloaded PixelJunk Monsters, Rockman 9, Metal Gear Solid and FF9 though. Those are supposed to keep me busy until the two games I bought from Amazon arrive. They are Metal Gear 4 and Oblivion.

That reminds me. There's GOT to be a better way for me to get cheap American games in Japan besides Amazon. Any suggestions? Right now, I'm ordering from Amazon, having it shipped to a friend in America, and then having him ship them to me. It takes too freaking long!!!! Hahaha.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Honestly, Bluray is like half the reason I'm buying a PS3. And I don't want to keep wittling down my harddrive spaces. That's really no fun. I'd rather keep them in a DISC, where I can store INFORMATION, like it's supposed to.

I'd totally shun the PS3 Slim if they go down the data-only route. There'd be almost no point getting it and stressing over the harddrive space. As if PS3 gamers don't do that already by installing games.

[Bahamut]

Honestly, Bluray is like half the reason I'm buying a PS3. And I don't want to keep wittling down my harddrive spaces. That's really no fun. I'd rather keep them in a DISC, where I can store INFORMATION, like it's supposed to.

I'd totally shun the PS3 Slim if they go down the data-only route. There'd be almost no point getting it and stressing over the harddrive space. As if PS3 gamers don't do that already by installing games.

Data only would be retarded on Sony's part - blu-ray games take up a lot of space as it is, I highly doubt that Sony would do that in having people download for immensely long times when broadband is still not even ubitquitous across the nation.

[Penfold]

Honestly, Bluray is like half the reason I'm buying a PS3. And I don't want to keep wittling down my harddrive spaces. That's really no fun. I'd rather keep them in a DISC, where I can store INFORMATION, like it's supposed to.

I'd totally shun the PS3 Slim if they go down the data-only route. There'd be almost no point getting it and stressing over the harddrive space. As if PS3 gamers don't do that already by installing games.

Pretty much. Bluray and MGS4 were my reasons. Without a BD, the PS3 Slim would just be a stationary PSP.

Like Schwaltzvald said, if they make the PS3 Slim backwards compatible I'm most likely gonna buy it and give my original PS3 to a friend (he's been wanting a bluray player for a long time, and can't get enough pixeljunk monsters whenever he comes by to play it).

[Thin Crust]

I don't get you guys. Everybody has a ps2. Just use that. And if you don't, buy a used one for $30 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TLU67W/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1250443068&sr=8-1)

[Bahamut]

I don't get you guys. Everybody has a ps2. Just use that. And if you don't, buy a used one for $30 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TLU67W/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1250443068&sr=8-1)

If you have an HDTV, a PS2 is not the best option for PS2 games.

[Thin Crust]

If you have an HDTV, a PS2 is not the best option for PS2 games.

I bought my ps2 component cable for $2.50. It's not a big deal.

[zircon]

$30 for a crappy-condition PS2, maybe. And I'm pretty sure the component cables are only compatible with the slim PS2. More importantly, I already have a PS2. I don't want to buy another PS2 AND a PS3 to play both games. Not only is that a waste of space, it's a waste of money. Taking away PS2 compatibility was a really big mistake on Sony's part.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

It's a move on their plan to put most PS2 games on PSN and forcing you to pay another 20 bucks for a game you already own.

[Gollgagh]

PS2s are only a hundred new nowadays

30 for a used one isn't that surprising (I got an almost new one for $40 a year ago or so)

[prophetik]

you can buy a phatty used for 50 bucks - or a slim for 70 - almost anywhere, with a warranty and everything. it's really not that huge of a deal, is it?

or you could do what i did, which is buy a backwards-compatible ps3 for $275 on ebay. an MGS4 limited edition one, too.

[Penfold]

I don't get you guys. Everybody has a ps2. Just use that. And if you don't, buy a used one for $30 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TLU67W/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1250443068&sr=8-1)

Don't stress too much over it, it's just personal choice as to how we'd prefer to play. No reason you need to understand or agree.

It's a move on their plan to put most PS2 games on PSN and forcing you to pay another 20 bucks for a game you already own.

If they actually did that, I'd be ok with it, since I'd prefer to have the games downloadable instead personally. I'm still suprised they don't have PS2 games on PSN.

[Thin Crust]

PS3 slim is here! What do you guys think?
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-playstation-3/54348

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

Exciting news. Finally a significant price cut and a lighter package. Color me impressed. I think I shall be investing in one soon.

[Schwaltzvald]

Not able to see the video here so what are its features besides a larger hard drive..?

[Drack]

If you have an HDTV, a PS2 is not the best option for PS2 games.

Yes it is.

PS3 has 2-3 frames of input lag upscaling the signal when playing PS2 (and PS1) games. This goes for both hardware and software backwards compatible PS3s.

I'd rather have a responsive game than a pretty one. The real solution is a TV/Monitor with lagless upscaling + PS2 component cable.

[Necrotic]

Yes it is.

PS3 has 2-3 frames of input lag upscaling the signal. (Both hardware and software backwards compatible PS3s)

I'd rather have a responsive game than a pretty one. The real solution is a TV/Monitor with lagless upscaling + PS2 component cable.

Honestly I don't think either the prettiness of the upscaling or the lack of frame lag is "the better situation." It's all a matter of preference.

I really do personally appreciate the convenience of having a 60GB PS3 though. It bugs me to have to go back to a wired controller any time I want to play vintage games, and anything I can do to curb that is fine by me. Keeps my room uncluttered with wires and cables and saves the time of wrapping and unwrapping cords which I hate doing all the time just to play a PS2 game for 20 minutes. All I have to do is keep a single controller by my bedside and suddenly I have access to whatever PS2 game I'm playing at the time or to my media server if I want to watch a movie. No need to switch power cables or video connectors (my TV is an old bubble that was given to me for free but it only has one set of inputs). No need to get up and grab a seperate controller. No need to pull my PS2 out of the cabinet to put it on the floor so I can have my controller long enough to reach me at my bed.

Plus it helps that I never have to worry about memory cards ever again.

They're small differences, but I appreciate them nonetheless.

[Bahamut]

For me it's mainly an issue of how many consoles do I have to have hooked up to the TV. The 60 GB PS3 wins for me automatically there. The wireless controller is definitely a huge plus though.

You also get lag with the other options anyway, so it's not like the PS3 is at a huge disadvantage there anyway :?

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

Ok guys. I'm seriously considering grabbing a slim. Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Final Fantasy XIV, Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4, Valkyria Chronicles, PSN and Blu Ray have convinced me. Thing is, I'm also a big fan of fighters. The PlayStation controller is still the best for this and there are plenty of decent USB sticks for the system, but how is the lag for online play? I've been hearing everywhere that it's pretty bad all around, although I haven't had any personal experience with it.

Anyone know about this?

[Schwaltzvald]

Unless you've had hiccups (recently discovered my old modem on performance bit the dust and I'll have to replace it while it's still hobbling along with shit speed) and at least on DSL (at most using Cable connection) you should be fine.

[Avatar of Justice]

And I'm pretty sure the component cables are only compatible with the slim PS2.

Nope. I have the component cables and an old PlayStation 2 and they worked together fine until the PlayStation 2 decided to stop playing PS2 games, and I had to get a slim PS2.

I pondered selling my 40GB PS3 and getting a slim (lower power consumption for the win), but I figure I'll get a slim PS3 when my PS3 inevitably fucks up.

[Thin Crust]

Yea, I was having trouble with the vid too. Here's the specs.
120gig
lighter
$299
smaller
actual buttons
Ps2 compatible
36% less power consumption
fingerprint proof (like ps2)
Other than that, it's exactly the same. It's getting released next month.

[prophetik]

didn't they take out backwards compatibility with ps1 games as well?

[Gollgagh]

didn't they take out backwards compatibility with ps1 games as well?

I thought this was a software thing aka something you could do with the firmware

[Hale-Bopp]

Yes it is.

PS3 has 2-3 frames of input lag upscaling the signal when playing PS2 (and PS1) games. This goes for both hardware and software backwards compatible PS3s.

I'd rather have a responsive game than a pretty one. The real solution is a TV/Monitor with lagless upscaling + PS2 component cable.
Something tells me that's a pretty insignificant thing, because as far as I can tell, my PS3 makes my PS2 games run faster, smoother and look better than they ever did on my old tv and PS2 system.

[zircon]

Ps2 compatible

What? Where did they say that?

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

...Ps2 compatible...

Is this actually confirmed?

[Gollgagh]

Something tells me that's a pretty insignificant thing, because as far as I can tell, my PS3 makes my PS2 games run faster, smoother and look better than they ever did on my old tv and PS2 system.

try playing FreQuency and tell me that

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

Seriously, all Sony has to do is put part of their PS2 catalog on PSN along with more PS1 games and they could have the masses literally eating at their hands. I don't understand it, because as a consumer I WANT to give them money. I'd GLADLY pay 20 bucks for a game like Rogue Galaxy, Ico or the FF games on PSN, and I already owned those games at one point.

[Necrotic]

Yea, I was having trouble with the vid too. Here's the specs.
120gig
lighter
$299
smaller
actual buttons
Ps2 compatible
36% less power consumption
fingerprint proof (like ps2)
Other than that, it's exactly the same. It's getting released next month.

I'm almost 100% sure it's not PS2 compatible. I am 100% sure it's still PS1 compatible.

I remember reading on 1up.com one time that Sony put a patent up for Emotion Engine emulation technology that they were working on. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the next year or two, we may end up hearing about something that comes out of that. Or maybe we'll never hear about it again and the whole idea just falls into the void because Sony ends up realizing there's nothing they can do to make it happen. Who knows. But it gives a little glimmer of hope that one day everyone will be able to play PS2 games on their PS3's at some point regardless of which model they own.

Seriously, all Sony has to do is put part of their PS2 catalog on PSN along with more PS1 games and they could have the masses literally eating at their hands. I don't understand it, because as a consumer I WANT to give them money. I'd GLADLY pay 20 bucks for a game like Rogue Galaxy, Ico or the FF games on PSN, and I already owned those games at one point.

The latest models of PS3 literally lack any kind of ability to play these games, downloadable or not, so until they can find a solution like building a software emulator (no easy task), this'll never happen.

[Schwaltzvald]

Ps2 compatible

Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/18/ps3-slim-sized-up-smaller-deeper-no-linux-or-ps2-compatibilit/) says otherwise unless you got a much better/reliable source of info...

[Gollgagh]

Seriously, all Sony has to do is put part of their PS2 catalog on PSN along with more PS1 games and they could have the masses literally eating at their hands. I don't understand it, because as a consumer I WANT to give them money. I'd GLADLY pay 20 bucks for a game like Rogue Galaxy, Ico or the FF games on PSN, and I already owned those games at one point.

exactly this

[prophetik]

no, not compatible with ps2. at all.

they're NOT going to make a backwards-compatible system until the ps2 goes the way of the n-gage. that's what it comes down to - stop saying otherwise, people. they're making too much off of the 99$ ps2 right now to undercut that completely.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

If they're waiting for PS3 sales to gain momentum to put the PS2 to pasture, then they're in for a long wait.

Backwards compatibility is hardly the most important aspect to the PS3, but it would make some damn good financial sense if they'd nix the PS2, put software emulation back into the bloody PS3 and open up the god damned library of PS2 games onto PSN, and then charge 20 bucks for each. There's no physical production cost, no retail middleman, just pure, unadulterated cash flow. They wanna make money back on software for every system they sell, then this seems to be the easiest way to do it. They have the tools. All they have to do is get it running and market the hell out of it.

"You all know those great games you played back on the PS2 but can't find anymore? We're putting a bunch of them on our easy to use PlayStation Network. Buy and play all your favorites and maybe some you missed instantly."

PlayStation 3: It prints money.

[Vivi22]

and open up the god damned library of PS2 games onto PSN, and then charge 20 bucks for each.

You'll never see PS2 games on the PSN for the PS3, and not just because Sony said they won't do it. I mean honestly imagine downloading multi-gigabyte files. Most games would be at least 4, and when you throw in installs for PS3 games on top of it, even a 120GB HDD is gonna fill fast. Now sure, you could always delete installs for games you're not playing at the moment, but even when I do that I often have at least 20-30 GB of install files kicking around. And what happens when you do fill the HDD with PS2 games (since one of the best game libraries ever combined with a price of 20 bucks a pop is a sure fire recipe for a full HDD)? You can delete them and download them again later, but not only is that a pain every time, but it will eat into the bandwidth limits that much of the civilized world is forced to put up with pretty fast. And since most people will never replace the HDD in the thing, buying a bigger one is a bit of a moot point.

I won't deny that PS2 games on the PSN wouldn't be a great thing, but I don't see it happening until HDD's in consoles come a lot bigger and bandwidth caps go the way of the Dodo. You're average person complains about having to go make a sandwich while a game spends 5 minutes installing. Imagine how much they'd bitch if they had to put up with all of the little hassles involved in buying PS2 games from the PSN.

[Necrotic]

You'll never see PS2 games on the PSN for the PS3, and not just because Sony said they won't do it. I mean honestly imagine downloading multi-gigabyte files. Most games would be at least 4, and when you throw in installs for PS3 games on top of it, even a 120GB HDD is gonna fill fast. Now sure, you could always delete installs for games you're not playing at the moment, but even when I do that I often have at least 20-30 GB of install files kicking around. And what happens when you do fill the HDD with PS2 games (since one of the best game libraries ever combined with a price of 20 bucks a pop is a sure fire recipe for a full HDD)? You can delete them and download them again later, but not only is that a pain every time, but it will eat into the bandwidth limits that much of the civilized world is forced to put up with pretty fast. And since most people will never replace the HDD in the thing, buying a bigger one is a bit of a moot point.

I won't deny that PS2 games on the PSN wouldn't be a great thing, but I don't see it happening until HDD's in consoles come a lot bigger and bandwidth caps go the way of the Dodo. You're average person complains about having to go make a sandwich while a game spends 5 minutes installing. Imagine how much they'd bitch if they had to put up with all of the little hassles involved in buying PS2 games from the PSN.

Not sure who you think you are when you're so confident in saying something like that will never happen, but I can already tell you it's already being done on the 360 with Games on Demand and XBOX Originals.

Sony's a company like any other. If the profits outweight the expenditure, there's nothing that will stop them if they want to put in the infrastructure for it. Just because you have issues managing your HDD space on your PS3 doesn't mean everybody's having the same problem (I'm definitely not) and that the demand's not there or that Sony would ever avoid trying to make money.

As for a matter of bandwidth, 4GB+ downloads are nothing new these days. It's being done on XBL and Steam and other download services all the time. There is nothing unusual about this. I've reformatted my PC dozens of times and have had to redownload 20-30GB's worth of games from Steam each time if I forgot to back them up. It happens, it's just the nature of the beast. It's not much different from running out of HDD space and having to redownload games over if you want to play them again.

I think most of us agree the issue is a matter of limitations. Every PS3 out there is gonna need to play those PS2 games somehow regardless of model and a solution to that might not come for some time.

[Avatar of Justice]

I have to say, I am hopeful that the PS3 will now have brighter prospects. With the price drop, holdouts will hopefully jump on board, and with FF13 coming out in Japan and rumors saying some Japanese RPG makers have been holding back waiting for it (as they expect FF13 to spur Japanese PS3 sales and increase their market), I am hoping that nichey games will live once again on the home consoles instead of winding up on the DS. Hopefully, Konami will announce Suikoden VI soonish.

[Level 99]

Just thought I'd point out, since I didn't see it mentioned on that differences list, that apparenty the slim PS3 has removed the "Install Other OS" option. Read summary here: http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2442

Well, I know it's probably a small minority of the people owning/potentially owning PS3s for that reason, but that does seem like a bit of a dick move too. The cell processor is a great piece of hardware for things other than gaming and this puts those potential new users out in the cold, now standing along side people who wanted to play all three playstation series of games on one console that didn't jump on the $500-$600 bandwagon when it first came out. That's a shame.

[Avatar of Justice]

Just thought I'd point out, since I didn't see it mentioned on that differences list, that apparenty the slim PS3 has removed the "Install Other OS" option. Read summary here: http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2442

Well, I know it's probably a small minority of the people owning/potentially owning PS3s for that reason, but that does seem like a bit of a dick move too. The cell processor is a great piece of hardware for things other than gaming and this puts those potential new users out in the cold, now standing along side people who wanted to play all three playstation series of games on one console that didn't jump on the $500-$600 bandwagon when it first came out. That's a shame.

Heh, I used to work at Red Hat (and use Gentoo on my home PC), and even I didn't even bother to install Linux on my PS3. I wonder what the size of the Linux PS3 user base is.

[Vivi22]

Not sure who you think you are when you're so confident in saying something like that will never happen, but I can already tell you it's already being done on the 360 with Games on Demand and XBOX Originals.

Like I said, Sony themselves have said they won't put PS2 games on the PSN.

Sony's a company like any other. If the profits outweight the expenditure, there's nothing that will stop them if they want to put in the infrastructure for it.

You're right, nothing would stop them except that they don't have any intention of doing it any time soon.

Just because you have issues managing your HDD space on your PS3 doesn't mean everybody's having the same problem (I'm definitely not) and that the demand's not there or that Sony would ever avoid trying to make money.

Never said I have problems managing my HDD space thanks. Just said most people would be annoyed by it. Most people being the same average joe morons who thought being forced to wait five minutes for a DMC4 install was a strike against the PS3 version.

As for a matter of bandwidth, 4GB+ downloads are nothing new these days. It's being done on XBL and Steam and other download services all the time. There is nothing unusual about this. I've reformatted my PC dozens of times and have had to redownload 20-30GB's worth of games from Steam each time if I forgot to back them up. It happens, it's just the nature of the beast. It's not much different from running out of HDD space and having to redownload games over if you want to play them again.

Again, I agree with and have no problems with any of this. Of course I also pay the extra for the highest download limit my ISP provides. I also don't expect that most other people bother, so the people stuck at the 6GB and 20 GB levels below mine might not be as quick to re-download one game let alone several and get charged up the wazoo for it at the ISP end or have their bandwidth throttled for the rest of the month.

I think most of us agree the issue is a matter of limitations. Every PS3 out there is gonna need to play those PS2 games somehow regardless of model and a solution to that might not come for some time.

Agree with this as well, though if Sony can implement this on the firmware end then there's no real issue in the long run. I just don't see them offering digital distribution of PS2 titles this gen, because the public largely can't or wouldn't be able to take advantage of it. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but hindsight is always 20/20 and until Sony comes up with a plan to the contrary and makes it really work I'll stand by my reasoning.

Frankly, I'd take them releasing more PSX titles on the American PSN before they worry about PS2 games. American support has been pathetic compared to what Japan has.

[Necrotic]

Like I said, Sony themselves have said they won't put PS2 games on the PSN.

Just like they said there'd never be a Dualshock 3. Or that there never was a PSP redesign in the works. Or that there was no such thing as a Slim PS3. Or anything like that. I never trust a word that comes out of any company's mouth.

Also, I don't know how other people's ISP's treat bandwidth caps but mine just bitches at you if you go over. We do pay extra now though, just for the added speed and higher caps. If some people's ISP's start tacking on extra fees for going over limits then it might be time to invest in a larger hard drive for the PS3 because it'd probably save you money in the long run. But with the difficulty in the availability of certain PS2 games I can see the marketplace definitely finding support for it since it seems people are using downloadable games services like Steam regardless of the size of the games (HL2 is 3.5GB for example.) So depending on the product people ARE willing to download big for games they want.

Frankly, I'd take them releasing more PSX titles on the American PSN before they worry about PS2 games. American support has been pathetic compared to what Japan has.

Amen to that.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

Well thanks for pointing out another one of Sony's problems: Not marketing the hell out of the fact that you can switch out the HDD for a bigger one. They're actually responding to this though with the Slim. The HDD slot is in the front of the system and all it takes is the removal of two screws and you're done.

It almost seems that up until now, Sony wasn't even serious with their PlayStation strategy.

[EdgeCrusher]

I preordered my slim ps3 today. Been putting off getting one, and I feel now is the time to do it.

[Thin Crust]

Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/18/ps3-slim-sized-up-smaller-deeper-no-linux-or-ps2-compatibilit/) says otherwise unless you got a much better/reliable source of info...

I don't. I saw three videos unveiling the ps3 slim (All released by sony) and I don't remember how I got that bit of info. It could have come from the comments or the video because I don't remember.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Okay, so now they need to lower the price of a Dualshock 3 down from the eagle perch of $50 to something HUMANE like $30.. That price is insane. It's literally keeping my friends from getting one..

[Schwaltzvald]

Okay, so now they need to lower the price of a Dualshock 3 down from the eagle perch of $50 to something HUMANE like $30.. That price is insane. It's literally keeping my friends from getting one..

Just get the mad catz basic controller for the PS3 for $19.99 (http://www.madcatz.com/productinfo.asp?page=347&GSProd=2834&GSCat=130&CategoryImg=PS3_Controllers)

[I-n-j-i-n]

If it doesn't break, then my friends can grovel in the dirt with a cheaper alternative. lol. Their lunchmoneys, not mine.

[Schwaltzvald]

If it doesn't break, then my friends can grovel in the dirt with a cheaper alternative. lol. Their lunchmoneys, not mine.

Considering it's by mad catz and they are the same guys that made those fight stick console/pads, I don't see why they would break any easier than a regular PS3 controller.

My only complaint with the cheap mad catz ps3 is that the analog sticks feel... slippery?; especially if you're prone to have sweaty/greasy hands/thumbs. Other then that they're just as good as the official PS3 controllers.

Oh yeah they also charge an extra $19.99 just for a different colored controller... Hope they prefer good ole black.

>:L

[I-n-j-i-n]

Sounds good. Now they have no excuse.

I'm only worried that when I get a PS3 Slim (finally), the store would try to sell me $100 Optic Cables for my surround sound. And I hear $4 ones are just as good too.

[Schwaltzvald]

Sounds good. Now they have no excuse.

I'm only worried that when I get a PS3 Slim (finally), the store would try to sell me $100 Optic Cables for my surround sound. And I hear $4 ones are just as good too.

I'd say give the cheaper ones a try unless you've heard some reliable sources that have horror stories of them frying shit.

Heck I got the Nyko USB Hub (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16868998017) for $14.99.

BEST ADDON INVESTMENT FOR MY PS3 EVAR as it adds 3 more usb ports and a card reader. :3

However this is for the older 80/40/60gb models. Not sure if u can put it on the slim and it would respond normally.

Edit* for those that get it, make sure u have the correct plastic piece in place and once you've slotted it in the left usb port, really push the module up so that you'll hear a "snap"; it means it's secure and not lurching downward where it could get pulled out much too easily.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Blech. I hope the cheapo Optic Cables don't fry my system too, by the way.

[Schwaltzvald]

If ya want, I've heard that intec optic cables for the PS3 are pretty good for $15. I think you can find them on Amazon if you can't find them in retail.

basic Composite Cables as well as HDMI cables are pretty sweet as well.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Yeah, I have no doubt the HDMI option would be fantastic, except my surround sound setup is strangely antiquated. It has EVERYTHING except HDMI. ugh.

[Schwaltzvald]

Well in other news I'm currently working on a Captain Murasa Minamitsu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1orh5c8YE8) theme for the PS3. Got quite a few other themes done in between whatever spare time I manage to get as well :)!!

[JoeFu]

Before booking - PS3 is the day of his slim. 1, I am right, one by one, one two three, I think I get a two-hour delay.

[prophetik]

cables? www.monoprice.com. super cheap, and they're quality. never had a problem with their cables or switches - they sell a 3-port optical audio hub that's five dollars and is fantastic. 25' 1.3a hdmi cables for under 30 bucks!

[Schwaltzvald]

cables? www.monoprice.com. super cheap, and they're quality. never had a problem with their cables or switches - they sell a 3-port optical audio hub that's five dollars and is fantastic. 25' 1.3a hdmi cables for under 30 bucks!

um.... yeah...

Yeah, I have no doubt the HDMI option would be fantastic, except my surround sound setup is strangely antiquated. It has EVERYTHING except HDMI. ugh.

[Gollgagh]

Before booking - PS3 is the day of his slim. 1, I am right, one by one, one two three, I think I get a two-hour delay.

I... what?

[prophetik]

um.... yeah...

it's got more than that, man. seriously, check it out. there's bloody anything you need there, including high-quality splitters that actually work.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Thanks for the advice, though I found out that my heavily occupied receiver has a MONSTER Optic Cable plugged into my DVDs. I tried it out again and I'm convinced it should be enough for my system. I'm not a crazy audiophile, so a slightly downgraded surround is enough. Besides, it already sounds movie-quality to me on DVDs. Should be only better in the full Bluray experience. I'm not going to blow another untold amount of dollars for another Monster cable (don't know how it was there. I must have gotten it in a package. I'm glad though, because even though it is prohibitively expensive, it IS built like a freakin' tank), so I'll have to switch the Optics to my PS3 from now on.

So now all I'm worried about is whether the reduced ports in the PS3 Slim = No optic cable.

[Schwaltzvald]

So now all I'm worried about is whether the reduced ports in the PS3 Slim = No optic cable.

http://kotaku.com/5340085/ps3-slims-pics-and-specs/gallery/

In the end, I'm thinking I'll stick with my older 80GB PS3 model...

I actually like having touch sensitive buttons, feels "futuristic". :lol:

Not to mention it's grown on me.

[Necrotic]

http://kotaku.com/5340085/ps3-slims-pics-and-specs/gallery/

In the end, I'm thinking I'll stick with my older 80GB PS3 model...

I actually like having touch sensitive buttons, feels "futuristic". :lol:

Not to mention it's grown on me.

I don`t think the Slim looks that aesthetically pleasing to be honest. The weight reduction would be nice though, the PS3 is a beast of a system weight wise.

[Gollgagh]

I like the way it looks

I'll probably get one for myself once I move out on my own

[CHIPP Damage]

I have to say, I am hopeful that the PS3 will now have brighter prospects. With the price drop, holdouts will hopefully jump on board, and with FF13 coming out in Japan and rumors saying some Japanese RPG makers have been holding back waiting for it (as they expect FF13 to spur Japanese PS3 sales and increase their market), I am hoping that nichey games will live once again on the home consoles instead of winding up on the DS. Hopefully, Konami will announce Suikoden VI soonish.

I am hopeful for the PS3 too. I guess it's just because PS1 and 2 were so great, but in the console rivalry, or at least the one between XBOX and PS3, I'm rooting for Sony. Despite all the "stupid" stuff that people say they do, I really feel like they try to make their money solely by delivering a superior product. Not to say that Microsoft is deceptive or anything, but I've just come to like Sony's stuff. And I couldn't agree more with the niche games being released for PS3 instead of DS. I think the DS is a great system and deserves its games too, but it seems like every cool game these days is released for the DS.
Hopefully now, Tri-Ace will announce Star Ocean 4 for the PS3.

[Demonstray]

Before booking - PS3 is the day of his slim. 1, I am right, one by one, one two three, I think I get a two-hour delay.
http://www.octagonfirstcall.com/celebrityconsulting/Blog/wp-content/sharedUpload/2008/08/john-madden.jpg
Now the kids listen to the rap music...

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

Hopefully now, Tri-Ace will announce Star Ocean 4 for the PS3.

It's already confirmed. Hopefully they'll add a new plot, better characters... In fact, hopefully they'll change everything about the game save the battle system and music, because that game was pretty underwhelming as it was nothing like the epic prologue to the series that they had promised. It started off well enough, but then just went to shit later on. It does however satisfy in the combat department and for some strange reason I can't hate on the game despite its serious flaws.

As for the PS3 Slim design, I kinda like it. I'm not a fan of glossy finishes on anything, and it looks pretty chic.

Sony's definitely trying to deliver a better product, and in terms of tech specs they ARE the best what with the cell processor, Blu-ray, a FREE online service, a much more aesthetically pleasing system, and a much better controller, but for every step forward they take, they take a good two steps back. The system is a hot rod, but hard as hell to program for according to developers. Why isn't Sony hooking 'em up with a team to help 'em work out the kinks? All their first party stuff looks killer, so why not help out other devs?

All that being said, I can't wait 'til I can own a Slim myself. I hear it handles Blu-ray better than the fats. This true?

[Gollgagh]

come to think of it, I've never tried to play a bluray on mine

I should do that

[Bahamut]

I think the really killer thing that Sony did was put such a slow reading blu-ray player - it reads slower than the DVD players at the time. They really should've took the hit and invested in a faster player IMO, which would've saved programmers headaches and probably allowed them to take more advantage of the disc space.

[prophetik]

they ARE the best what with the cell processor, Blu-ray, a FREE online service, a much more aesthetically pleasing system, and a much better controller

i love it when people talk about the online play on PS3. does anyone actually realize just how damn broken it is? seriously. three years into it, forty zillion hardware revisions later, and we only just got text chat outside of games. blargh.

that said, live isn't perfect either. too much crap for what you get.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Aesthetically, I actually still prefer the 360. The concave works and it stands out in the media center, especially standing vertical. Controller, I'd actually say it's about even except for the d-pad. Even if the Dual Shock d-pads have been giving me blisters for a decade now..

And I have to agree with the online. Free is nice, but there's been so many horror stories with the uneven online connectivity and support, while it's UNIFORM for a 360. So if you have a good connection to a friend over Xbox Live, the chances are, almost all games will have good connection online.

As a pure gaming console, the 360 just feels very tightly made IMO. Especially if we start factoring in online-play. Other than that, I really want the PS3 for the Bluray, the ability to go online and the Sony trinkets I'm honestly more excited about than even Nintendo's right now. Nintendo is still great, but I'm tired of waiting a freaking year or two for them to release a good sequel.

[I-n-j-i-n]

http://kotaku.com/5340085/ps3-slims-pics-and-specs/gallery/

In the end, I'm thinking I'll stick with my older 80GB PS3 model...

I actually like having touch sensitive buttons, feels "futuristic". :lol:

Not to mention it's grown on me.

That teeny tiny "optical out" really gave me a sigh of relief. lol

As for the old PS3, I can see the draw.

The main thing for me though, is that the Slim is supposed to give off less heat and use less energy. That, and I guess the entertainment center can use a ninja-Bluray player instead of a total behemoth.

[CHIPP Damage]

It's already confirmed. Hopefully they'll add a new plot, better characters... In fact, hopefully they'll change everything about the game save the battle system and music, because that game was pretty underwhelming as it was nothing like the epic prologue to the series that they had promised. It started off well enough, but then just went to shit later on. It does however satisfy in the combat department and for some strange reason I can't hate on the game despite its serious flaws.

It is!?!?! Hmmm. I can't find any concrete stories. Just rumors. But the rumor stories I found were dated 2008. So where are all the more recent announcements? Malaki, did you like Star Ocean 3?

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

I played through more than half of First Departure and about 7 hours or so of 'Til The End of Time. FD would have probably done more for me had I played it when it was originally released back in '96 since it has all the trappings of a mid-90's JRPG, although I'll just say that I don't like randomness in my crafting systems, which is something that all Star Ocean games have in common. And the combat always feels like it's missing a few things to make it feel truly satisfying, and I don't like games that only let me learn 4 or 5 abilities during the course of the damned thing.

Another thing they have in common is that they always have an interesting start that just falls flat later on with all the traipsing around technologically inferior worlds helping the local residents(why bother having the UP3 if NOBODY deigns to follow it) get their kitten out of a tree.

Maybe it's just my system(two speakers on a TV), but what the hell is up with the sound engineering in this series? The voices are too low during all if not most cutscenes, music volume too high, treble and bass is all goofed up, etc. Really takes away from the immersion to me.

Star Ocean 4 has all these problems and more, and yet I still played through it, rampant disc swapping to go back to previous areas and all. One thing they DID do was actually give you recipes for different items, but the ingredients are so goddamned impossible to acquire normally, why even bother.

I find it hilarious that Infinite Undiscovery is still my favorite JRPG this generation(and rightly so, it's a damned fine game). Not even Tri-Ace's "AAA" game could do better. I just hope End of Eternity(Resonance of Fate in the west) really does do a lot to bring back my faith in them. As of now I'm just glad I bought SO4 used. They're not getting my money for that one.

[EdgeCrusher]

BC wise, its not a big deal to me. I still got my first ps2 in working condition. But I do think that Sony's reason for not even considering BC on the slim is retarded.

http://kotaku.com/5340337/sony-explain-why-the-ps3-slim-has-no-backwards-compatibility

Basically the head of marketing threw out a random stats number saying that 80 to 90 percent of people buy a PS3 to play PS3 games. Yeah, of course people buy a PS3 to play PS3 games, but they also want Blu Ray, and a company that would support their large collection of games from a former system. Even the Wii and 360 do this. I guess though since ps2 slims are still on the market though, suck that market dry baby!

[Thin Crust]

I think the slim deserves it's own thread.

[Gollgagh]

why

the psp has three (four if you count the Go) iterations now and the psp thread has been fine

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

BC wise, its not a big deal to me. I still got my first ps2 in working condition. But I do think that Sony's reason for not even considering BC on the slim is retarded.

http://kotaku.com/5340337/sony-explain-why-the-ps3-slim-has-no-backwards-compatibility

Basically the head of marketing threw out a random stats number saying that 80 to 90 percent of people buy a PS3 to play PS3 games. Yeah, of course people buy a PS3 to play PS3 games, but they also want Blu Ray, and a company that would support their large collection of games from a former system. Even the Wii and 360 do this. I guess though since ps2 slims are still on the market though, suck that market dry baby!

This is the kind of PR crap that Sony has to stop.

Obviously people bought that PS3(save those who bought it strictly for Bluray) bought it to play PS3 games. Otherwise, why the hell would they even bother upgrading from the PS2? That doesn't mean a lot of them didn't expect to be able to play all their PS2 games on it though. This is what Sony doesn't get: Backwards compatibility is the safety net that'll make sure people adopt the PS3 and buy more of 'em.

There aren't that many PS3 games coming out that you want? Well here's a metric fuckton of games you probably will enjoy until those games start pouring out.

[Thin Crust]

why

the psp has three (four if you count the Go) iterations now and the psp thread has been fine

Just the news of the slim with the price cut needs to get out. If I didn't already have one, I would jump all over this.

[kupernikus]

This is the kind of PR crap that Sony has to stop.

Obviously people bought that PS3(save those who bought it strictly for Bluray) bought it to play PS3 games. Otherwise, why the hell would they even bother upgrading from the PS2? That doesn't mean a lot of them didn't expect to be able to play all their PS2 games on it though. This is what Sony doesn't get: Backwards compatibility is the safety net that'll make sure people adopt the PS3 and buy more of 'em.

There aren't that many PS3 games coming out that you want? Well here's a metric fuckton of games you probably will enjoy until those games start pouring out.

Exactly. After all, I buy a ton of games, but so far the ps3 has been incredibly disappointing. I've got Little Big planet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Fallout 3(which I ended up purchasing again on the 360 for dlc) Armored Core 4 Answer, Infamous (awesome) and thats it.... As opposed to the 360 which I can't name the games I've got because I've got 60 or so. I play more ps1 and ps2 games on my ps3 then anything....

[Cecilff2]

I was considering buying the PS3 once its price dropped since I have an older PS2 that gets the "Disc Read Error" after a couple of plays. Since fixing that involves opening the PS2 up and tinkering with it every time, I was hoping to not having to do that anymore.

I was looking forward to the slim since there were rumors of BC with it. I suppose I'll eventually eBay one of the BC consoles some time eventually.

[EdgeCrusher]

Slim ps3s just came in at my local gamestop, just got the call 10 minutes ago to come pick mine up.

[I-n-j-i-n]

I'm going to cry a little tear if my nearest Toys R Us or Walmart or BestBuy or the three Gamestops I know doesn't have it in stock or is sold out. I am loaded with PS3 games that needs playing.

Anyone else buy a ton of games and accessories before getting a console? It's like house arrest.. At least 360 games are still great. Otherwise I'd have gone mad.

[Schwaltzvald]

At the time I've only bought Valkyrie Chronicles well as Silent Hill: Homecoming but didn't have the console.

Even now on a slightly different note, I'm contemplating whether I should wait to get a PSP3k/PSP Go to try out the Persona "Revelations" remake or get one now...

I've also heard about the Persona 3 Redux for the PSP which while adds a female protagonist this time around but leaves out "The Answer"; I'm not really sure how to respond to that. More interested in seeing the god damn remake of Persona "Revelations".

In fact I got Persona 2: Innocent Sin (which had never been released in the US) with an English patch all ready to play as soon as I complete Persona "Revelations"...

[Gollgagh]

dammit I have stil got to get Valkyria Chronicles

[Schwaltzvald]

dammit I have stil got to get Valkyria Chronicles

Better hurry lately I've not seen a single copy on the shelves at the retail boxes where I am...

You could always try online though if you can't find it (http://www.amazon.com/Valkyria-Chronicles-Playstation-3/dp/B0016C3260/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251296428&sr=8-1)

Also you just reminded me of the sequel supposedly coming out for the PSP... damn it...

[EdgeCrusher]

I'm going to cry a little tear if my nearest Toys R Us or Walmart or BestBuy or the three Gamestops I know doesn't have it in stock or is sold out. I am loaded with PS3 games that needs playing.

Anyone else buy a ton of games and accessories before getting a console? It's like house arrest.. At least 360 games are still great. Otherwise I'd have gone mad.

I bought uncharted used at gamestop, got MGS 4 limited edition coming in the mail, and picked up batman AA collector's edition at the midnight release all for the ps3, and picking up the ps3 today.

[Gollgagh]

Better hurry lately I've not seen a single copy on the shelves at the retail boxes where I am...

You could always try online though if you can't find it (http://www.amazon.com/Valkyria-Chronicles-Playstation-3/dp/B0016C3260/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251296428&sr=8-1)

Also you just reminded me of the sequel supposedly coming out for the PSP... damn it...

Well the Best Buy here straight up doesn't stock it at all. There were a few used copies at Game Stop though so I'll prolly grab one of those.

[I-n-j-i-n]

I bought uncharted used at gamestop, got MGS 4 limited edition coming in the mail, and picked up batman AA collector's edition at the midnight release all for the ps3, and picking up the ps3 today.

Sounds like a great deal. I caved in and bought Batman AA for 360 though.. total impulse buy that I'm not regretting too much.


As for a PS3 Slim, I actually got it yesterday walking into a BestBuy and it was tucked into a corner where ironically, a fat PS3 + Uncharted pack was laying. I thought it was the same pack so I nearly missed it. Also the slim doesn't even say "Slim" on it so I got confused too. It's just a black square looking turd with a simple PS3 logo on it.

So far so great. I don't see why some people think it feels "cheap" compared to the fat PS3. It doesn't.

I'm still not fully into the system yet even with an Optical Out and HDMI plugged in since I still need to work out its online-quirks. Can't go online with it without the right settings..

[CHIPP Damage]

I'm thoroughly enjoying my newly acquired PS3. I've already completed Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear 4, and Pixel Junk Monsters. I'm also in the middle of FF7 and Mega Man 9 and have just recently started on Elder Scrolls IV. So far, I haven't been disappointed at all by the system. I even uploaded some video and music files. I'm sure XBOX can do all of the same things I've done on my PS3 but I gotta say anyway, PS3 rocks! Hahaha.

Metal Gear Solid 4 SPOILER

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That game is friggin' short! Although the amount of stealth involved has become dramatically less, it was still a really fun game. The cutscenes were amazing.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Honestly, one of the few things I think 360 does better is the user interface. Xbox Live really could still use more upgrading, but that just shows how much more people expect out of it. Definitely more user friendly than the PSN, Home or the Store, though I still think the content is very good. But strangely, it's not as intuitive as the 360's Xbox Live.

[Soma]

Well the Best Buy here straight up doesn't stock it at all. There were a few used copies at Game Stop though so I'll prolly grab one of those.

I urge you not to buy a used copy of VC. We're already getting a sequel but it wouldn't hurt to show the developers the support they deserve.

[Thin Crust]

never mind

[EdgeCrusher]

So I just got Fat Princess, and I'm horrible at it, at least in single player. If anyone wants to play, I'm TenTonHammer23

[Gollgagh]

I urge you not to buy a used copy of VC. We're already getting a sequel but it wouldn't hurt to show the developers the support they deserve.

used because I CAN'T FIND A NEW COPY AROUND HERE

THEY DON'T EXIST

I'VE LOOKED

gfg follow the conversation better

[Schwaltzvald]

used because I CAN'T FIND A NEW COPY AROUND HERE

THEY DON'T EXIST

I'VE LOOKED

gfg follow the conversation better

It's kinda why I offered the amazon link, but I can't blame you for going for a cheaper alternative. (I remember when new games used to be in between the $35 - $45 range ;_; )

Not to mention I personally got issues with gamestop as the only game I EVER bought from them "new" was Deadspace. There's something about seeing them take the "display case" I had in my hand and then go under his desk to get the "new" game out of its paper sleeve and then give it to me selling it for about $50 at the time...

[Kenobio]

It's kinda why I offered the amazon link, but I can't blame you for going for a cheaper alternative. (I remember when new games used to be in between the $35 - $45 range ;_; )

Not to mention I personally got issues with gamestop as the only game I EVER bought from them "new" was Deadspace. There's something about seeing them take the "display case" I had in my hand and then go under his desk to get the "new" game out of its paper sleeve and then give it to me selling it for about $50 at the time...

Sounds like you got one of the last copies they had, with the box for being the display box you picked up. A pretty frequent occurrence with games that sell out. I find it amusing that new games are allowed to be borrowed by GS employees (with the notion that they bring 'em back undamaged) and upon their return they are merely repackaged again in new shrinkwrap.

[Gollgagh]

which is why the only game that I have ever bought "new" from gamestop was Spiderman 1 in '03

their used section ain't too bad though

I troll there pretty often for old games. For example, I recently picked up Jak 3, Jak and Daxter, Dark Cloud, Xenosaga I and II and some others for $5 a pop, all in pretty decent condition and complete with the manuals




$36 ain't bad for a new PS3 game though, I'll probably do that then considering that the used version of VC was $40 some

[EdgeCrusher]

All "new" games here at gamestop are pulled from the case and sold like that. That's cause employees "borrow" games and play them, return them and they can still be sold as new. That's one of the major reasons I don't buy new games there, cause most of the time they are not in new condition. Only time I've recieved a sealed game from gamestop in the last, I don't know, 4 years or longer is when I preordered and got them on release day or midnight release.

[Kenobio]

To say that all new games are sold like that is a bit of an exaggeration. Most new games that GS receives are never opened, as even with new releases that employees want to borrow only a few get opened and played compared to the 20-50 copies that come in to be sold. On top of that, I recall my manager being a real Nazi about getting the game being borrowed back exactly as it was. If such wasn't the case we were forced to buy the game. But I totally understand not wanting to buy new games from GS in any case.

[I-n-j-i-n]

I actually bought a brand new copy of Valkyria Chronicles in Gamestop :X

[kupernikus]

I got a copy of the vanadieal collection 2009 from GS.... someone had borrowed it and used the registration code.... i was pissed. took it back, took like an hour of arguing before they gave me my cash and I walked across the parking lot to Best Buy.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

So this God of War collection containing the PS2 titles on one Blu-ray disc and remastered in 720p being released on the PS3. Anyone have any thoughts on what this could mean for the plethora of popular PS2 titles out there? Of course this is a first-party IP so it might be an isolated thing, but it'd be interesting to see what other publishers would think if sales were pretty decent.

[Thin Crust]

Don't forget they are adding trophy support.

[prophetik]

So this God of War collection containing the PS2 titles on one Blu-ray disc and remastered in 720p being released on the PS3. Anyone have any thoughts on what this could mean for the plethora of popular PS2 titles out there? Of course this is a first-party IP so it might be an isolated thing, but it'd be interesting to see what other publishers would think if sales were pretty decent.

one of the bonuses about this is that they'll fix the incompatibilities with the software version of the Emotion engine - making it run properly on CECHC and CECHE models (like mine). i hope they do this with other major games, like FFX and XII (they have issues with dropped frames and invisible cutscenes throughout the games).

[Reaif]

Well, I just joined the ranks of ps3 owners. Picked up one of the slims for $255 when the deal came around on slickdeals.net.

My psn id is the same as my id here: Reaif

So anyone can feel free to add me as a friend.

One thing I am very pleased with so far is the media sharing abilities. Just installed the Nero Media home software on my file server, so now I have about 600 GB of videos and music that I can watch on my ps3. The codec compatibility is pretty good too. There are only a couple of things that I can't watch.

[prophetik]

wait, there's a way to stream mkv to your ps3? how?!?

[phill]

wait, there's a way to stream mkv to your ps3? how?!?

on-the-fly transcoding?

[Thin Crust]

looks like the entire ps2 library might be coming to the psn for download.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60545
http://www.gametrailers.com/news/ps3...dable-ps2/1382

[PlastikBag]

wait, there's a way to stream mkv to your ps3? how?!?

Download PS3 Media Server. It decodes mkv.

Anyway, I just got into the Uncharted 2 demo, and I LOVE it, but I really need people to play with. Co-op matches are a disaster for me. Most of the people I play with don't know how to play the game, once I ended a game with 40 kills total and the other two people got 1 kill each. I also have to deal with a lot of people disconnecting about 10 minutes in... There goes my experience. Anyway, if you want to play, please add me. Plastikbag is my PSN name. If you don't play, I recommend trying it out. It's a lot of fun.

[Thin Crust]

Download PS3 Media Server. It decodes mkv.

Anyway, I just got into the Uncharted 2 demo, and I LOVE it, but I really need people to play with. Co-op matches are a disaster for me. Most of the people I play with don't know how to play the game, once I ended a game with 40 kills total and the other two people got 1 kill each. I also have to deal with a lot of people disconnecting about 10 minutes in... There goes my experience. Anyway, if you want to play, please add me. Plastikbag is my PSN name. If you don't play, I recommend trying it out. It's a lot of fun.I sent you a friend request once but I don't think you accepted it. Anyway, I checked out the game and it was great. But I'd rather wait and buy the whole thing than wear out the experience on the demo.

[EdgeCrusher]

I have the uncharted beta too if anyone wants to play, TenTonHammer23

[Schwaltzvald]

I'll have to try the Uncharted 2 demo out it seems... Recently tried the WET demo and so far I like it. Reminds me of No More Heros except without the waggling.

[EdgeCrusher]

Don't buy Wet. If you played the demo, you played the best part of the game.

[Schwaltzvald]

Don't buy Wet. If you played the demo, you played the best part of the game.

Been hearing the same thing elsewhere as well, shame really. May just get it as a cheap rental or if it gets real real cheap via bargin bin.

Makes me wonder about demon souls though...

[metalsnakejuice]

Does anyone else play Demon's Souls?

Best game i have played this year so far.

[prophetik]

Don't buy Wet. If you played the demo, you played the best part of the game.

it's entertaining, don't get me wrong. it's definitely not a 60$ game, though. maybe 25$ or 30$. it's the definition of a good rental - short and sweet.

[Schwaltzvald]

Does anyone else play Demon's Souls?

Best game i have played this year so far.

The US/Canadian release isn't till this Oct 13th.

Nonetheless I've heard nothing but praises on it, also that one can't actually pause the game..?

[metalsnakejuice]

The US/Canadian release isn't till this Oct 13th.

Nonetheless I've heard nothing but praises on it, also that one can't actually pause the game..?

I brought the chinese version which is in full english text and voices. But it is true that you can not pause, still a excellent game.

[Schwaltzvald]

I brought the chinese version which is in full english text and voices. But it is true that you can not pause, still a excellent game.

I'm fine with the Berserkesque brutality in both the realism as well as the high difficulty that's been mentioned in other reviews. While I wouldn't mind importing, I can wait till it's released here; not to mentioned I've already preordered the Deluxe edition which includes an art book, and a soundtrack album among other things.

[metalsnakejuice]

I'm fine with the Berserkesque brutality in both the realism as well as the high difficulty that's been mentioned in other reviews. While I wouldn't mind importing, I can wait till it's released here; not to mentioned I've already preordered the Deluxe edition which includes an art book, and a soundtrack album among other things.

I should have preordered it too but i could not wait any longer. The difficulty is hard but not frustrating, but i was disappointed with the last boss.

[Schwaltzvald]

I should have preordered it too but i could not wait any longer. The difficulty is hard but not frustrating, but i was disappointed with the last boss.

I tend to play games that are generally regarded to have high difficulty. Be it bullet curtains (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkSLs9qZj-g), awesome platforming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQvcX46hr4&feature=related), or just plain stylish with 'Must Die' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k) mode enabled.

edit: I also forgot I LOVE Carnage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgMAQ5yZ6po&)

[metalsnakejuice]

I tend to play games that are generally regarded to have high difficulty. Be it bullet curtains (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkSLs9qZj-g), awesome platforming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQvcX46hr4&feature=related), or just plain stylish with 'Must Die' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k) mode enabled.

Bloody hell they look hard. I still need to finish DMC3, ninja gaiden sigma 2 looks like a challenging game that i heard.

[Schwaltzvald]

I've heard of NGS2 being "unfairly" difficult, I'll be the judge of that when I get it. :wink:

[metalsnakejuice]

I've heard of NGS2 being "unfairly" difficult, I'll be the judge of that when I get it. :wink:

Can not wait to throw my controller throw my controller across the room:-D

The first one was difficult but so fun and the boss fights were awesome. Should be a good game.

[Schwaltzvald]

On a recent run, DMC4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqBFHTHoXv0&) holds up quite well imo as well as NGS.