All Time Hardest Boss

[Shining Mirage]

What, you don't like fighting two already boss-like in their own right mummies before fighting really hard sorceress woman?

Wait a minute, there are actual human beings that have beaten that game...?

[Warmech]

Certainly.

A couple of times in fact.

[Shining Mirage]

Certainly.

A couple of times in fact.

...Very depressing. By chance, is there even a TA of this game?

[Warmech]

A Time Attack? Not that I know of.

As for the topic at hand, I don't know if it qualifies as really a hard boss, but for the life of me I cannot beat the last boss in Sigma Star Saga. For some reason no matter how many times I shoot the bastard he eventually heals himself for an unknown amount of damage (I assume all of it).

Coop...anybody...help!

[Shining Mirage]

I almost forgot... To hell with Battletoads.:evil:

[CallumM]

Maybe I'm just weird, but Jackle from NiGHTS made me cry.

Several times.
It was worse that he'd just laugh at me constantly, and the closer I got to him, the more chance I'd be hit by a card.

[The Coop]

A Time Attack? Not that I know of.

As for the topic at hand, I don't know if it qualifies as really a hard boss, but for the life of me I cannot beat the last boss in Sigma Star Saga. For some reason no matter how many times I shoot the bastard he eventually heals himself for an unknown amount of damage (I assume all of it).

Coop...anybody...help!

I'll type this in tiny, pale text so that no one else reads it unless they want to...

To beat the final boss, try these tips...

- Don't get hit. Sometimes when your ship get hit, he heals himself.

- Stay above his brow line. His eye laser is deadly, so stay level with his forehead.

- Stay away from the holes in the background. Tentacles come out and grab you, holding you in place. This makes you an easy target, so try and stay in the large gap between the left and center hole columns.

- When the screen shakes, a tentacle is about to come either shooting up or down through the screen. The moment the screen shakes, move up close to the boss' forehead. If you stay very close to it, all three tentacles will miss you. Just be sure to get back when the tentacles retract, or you'll get rammed by the head.

- If you have them, use this set up for your weapons...
Blue- 23
Red- 06
Yellow- 06

This gives you fast firing orbs that circle your ship. It makes the boss fights easier.

- Don't use weapon "B". When I use it, the boss heals himself all the time. So try sticking to weapon "A".


Hope that helps, Warmech.

[Warmech]

Well son of a bitch, that worked like a charm.

I think the problem was using 'A' instead of 'B' because that's what I was always doing and he would just randomly heal himself. Excellent!

[Shining Mirage]

Anyone ever played a game called "DJ Boy" for the Genesis?

...Okay, there's this granny that appears in two, if not three levels. No patterns or anything out of the ordinary, she just violates your space with poorly made combos. Just straight owns you for free. What made this boss so ungodly annoying was for each one of your hits, she smacked you at least three times.

Don't get me wrong, the granny is beatable, but it takes too much work.:evil:

[The Author]

After playing Ninja Gaiden (the original one) again, I have to say that the bosses in this game (except the first two) have high factors of pissingmeoffedness.

However, the one enemy I cannot stand is the eagle.

It takes 3 bars of life on contact (as opposed to a pretty small 1 bar taken by a ROCKET LAUNCHER).

It moves fast.

It has the second smallest surface of the game (the smallest being the slightly less annoying bats)

And since the game is buggy, they can spawn sporadicly for no reason after you killed them. (Apparently, they are generated as you step on a specific tile column and if you do not move from the trigger, the game assumes that since you killed the eagle, it never was generated.)


So yeah, if you are afraid of ninjas, invest in eagles. They will defend your base better than twin hopping statues that spit out brain looking balls of gas.

(In fact, I am convinced that 15 eagles would be harder to beat than the last boss of the game.)

[Warmech]

Especially on the next-to-last level. While you're trying to make your way up the temple area they just fly out of nowhere and knock your ass back, sometimes off into instant death.

Luckily I rock at this game.

[whatfruit]

Your Mum!!

[DarkAura]

I never had the appourunity to play the original Ninja Gaiden, since... well, I suck at the XBox version, so I'm not very far through it, and have not been able to aquire the original games in it yet.

It's not a boss, but the part that has me hung up right now is that damned boulder in the underground part beneath the cathedral. Like I said, I suck at this game.

[Cerrax]

I never had the appourunity to play the original Ninja Gaiden, since... well, I suck at the XBox version, so I'm not very far through it, and have not been able to aquire the original games in it yet.

It's not a boss, but the part that has me hung up right now is that damned boulder in the underground part beneath the cathedral. Like I said, I suck at this game.

If you think that's hard you're going to HATE that game.That part's a breeze compared to the rest. Wait till you have to shoot down an Apache helicopter with a bow and arrow. I lost my freaking mind at that part. Ninja Gaiden for XBox is one of the best video games of its generation because it presents a challenge that few games have. Unrelenting enemies with decent AI, and just plain meaness and unfairness. I hate games where a dragon bites you practically in half, and only a small portion of life is depleted. If you get bitten in NG, you're either dead,or seriously wounded.

[AzureZeal]

In the Xbox Ninja Gaiden, it was those stupid two eels in the underground part that I had to verse. I can't even estimate the number of tries before I finally got them.

[Calpis]

You can beat him. It took a hell of a lot of reloading saved states and mentally kicking myself for not just giving up, but he doesn't always do the sneeze attack early enough to save himself.

Best bet: level up Gogo, give him the Atma Weapon and Ragnarok/Excalibur, only give him fight commands. You can beat him then. Not like it's worth it though....

[DarkAura]

If you think that's hard you're going to HATE that game.That part's a breeze compared to the rest. Wait till you have to shoot down an Apache helicopter with a bow and arrow. I lost my freaking mind at that part. Ninja Gaiden for XBox is one of the best video games of its generation because it presents a challenge that few games have. Unrelenting enemies with decent AI, and just plain meaness and unfairness. I hate games where a dragon bites you practically in half, and only a small portion of life is depleted. If you get bitten in NG, you're either dead,or seriously wounded.


I've read somewhere that if you hide and just wait it out, the helicopter eventually just flies away. Fight done!

[BardicKnowledge]

^^ That's the first helicopter fight -- the 2nd time around you actually have to finish it off.

[MstrBrknSwrd]

I would have to say Ozma. The secret boss in Final Fantasy IX, I had to spend months leveling up to 90+ with everyone in my party and getting the best armor, weapons and accesories that I could for everyone to beat him.

[The Coop]

Time for a well deserved bump.

Way back when, SNK released the game Fatal Fury. A fun, though basic, fighting game with a series of characters who would become well known icons in the fighting game world. One of them, was Geese Howard. SNK has a reputation for making final bosses that are insanely overpowered, fast and frustrating to go up against in their fighting games. I have a feeling this game and GH were their blue prints.

Due to the age of the game, there aren't that many special moves. You have punch, kick, and a few specials. For Geese Howard, these specials include a power shot that rides along the ground, and a painfully cheap move that simply kicks your ass... a grab.

This move makes it so that he pauses for a couple seconds, and stands there as you hit him with anything (a normal punch/kick, a jump kick/punch, or a special move that isn't a projectile). Once you touch him, he grabs you, and whips your ass to the floor... hard. On the easiest setting, he doesn't do this too much. But put it on normal or above, and this seems to be his favorite move. It makes hitting him seemingly impossible, as everything you do results in your being grabbed and driven into the nice shiny wooden floorboards. The last time I tried to beat the game on the hard difficulty so I could see the full ending, I must have continued a few dozen times on Geese Howard before I called it quits.

I know bosses, especially final ones, are supposed to give you a challenge. But is it a challenge when your character gets beaten like a red-headed step child by the same move over and over again? :lol:

[Impreza WRX]

Star Trek: Elite Force 2, final level

Throughout the game you encounter increasingly powerful and deadly exomorphs, the first encounter being a "boss battle" but any future encounters are "normal" encounters.

HOWEVER, the last level puts you against all the "boss exos" in sequence of deadliness. Not only that but you usually have to fend off two of them at once.

By the time you reach the not-a-boss Exomorph Commander, you have run down most of your ammo fighting the Quadrupeds and Night Stalkers. Now you have to defeat a super monster that's not a boss but is armed to the teeth with homing weapons that kill you with 2 hits and do splash damage, can fly, and is virtually indestructible! It makes fighting the Borg easy! Oh yeah and every exomorph in the game comes with the ability to relentlessly hammer out rapid fire attacks, including the big bad Commander! If you aren't the master of strafe-around-the-rosie you won't last five seconds into the battle, and it takes 5 minutes to defeat him!

[Darklink42]

Ballos from Cave Story sucks. I beat him...eventually. Let me tell you how...

To start off with all your guns get powered down to level one. (Your guns get three levels, each more powerful than the last). This is on top of the fact that you just got done fighting the three final bosses and so all you get is whatever health and ammmo you salvaged after the fight. Next, you have to get through the level with a time limit ticking. Of course, the time limit is simply to record how good you are, thankfully. And if, at any point in the mini level (and it's deadly and looongg) you die, you start all the way back at the beginning again. This includes during the boss battle. Save points and mid-level regens points are apparently for pansies.

So you make it to Ballos. There he is standing in all his pimptastic glory. He starts to attack, and right off the bat he's got some powerful moves. Nothing too hard to handle, but still powerful. I beat him in my first go-round (this was after at least 20 attempts to get to that point though). I sit back to relax, when he transforms to his second form. And before I can even figure out how to hurt him in this giant spherical form (and giant means you can't even see all of him on the screen) he lands on me and one shot kills my ass.
Not one to give up, I go through the level a few more times, and figure out you have to shoot the eyes. Easier said than done. Because as he's bouncing around, you have to find a way to jet yourself up to his level, shoot him in the eyes, and avoid the numerous smaller enemies jetting across the top of the level.
They say that to fight a cheap boss one must use cheap tactics. And indeed I did. I leveled up the one gun that allows you to "fly" (it has enough force when shot at the ground to propel you up, and with proper rationing of shots, will hold you there indefinitely). So now I'm flying around at the very top of the leave, just above the bats, and it takes about thirty minutes of agonizingly short targetable periods before I kill the fucker again. I sit back to rest on my laurels, not even thinking there'd be a third form. But sure enough. And in about three seconds, he's up on the fucking ceiling with me and one shots me again.
It took me at least three days to calm down enough to try it yet again. At last I discovered that I could hide in the corner to avoid his ceiling sweeps. It took as long to kill that third form as it did the second. And jokingly, I mentioned to a friend while I was playing that the worst thing that could happen would be that it had a fourth form.
It did. Fortunately, it proved to be the easiest and I finally beat it with no real troubles...

One of the few bosses that has truely challenged me in terms of time, energy, anger, and key holding durability.

(and as a final note, I hear that there are some people that can do the entire thing in ten minutes...)

[Dexie]

(and as a final note, I hear that there are some people that can do the entire thing in ten minutes...)


Only ten minutes?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0tarGSo9INI

[Maco70]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/40388.html
...

[Shining Mirage]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/40388.html
...


Why? Just...why?

[Triad Orion]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/40388.html
...

...that goes from the realm of difficult to just unabashadly retarded. That's not even a challenge. It's pure abject *torture.* Who wants their shooter games THAT ridiculous? Ikaruga and R-Type are one thing, but... damn.

[Chickenwarlord]

It's just a Bullet Hell. Sure, they're hard, but they always make you want to improve.

[Shining Mirage]

Bump. This is going to be long, so bear with me.

I posted about this in the "...and it made me smile" thread, but I just wanted to go more into depth about it.

There's an arcade game made by Data East called Hippodrome (http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=H&game_id=8118), where you are pitted against 9 different monsters all with their unique ability to drink health and piss you the fuck off. The first three only let you know how much you were about to be annoyed.

The dragon, who's attacks you saw coming from a mile away has a flame attack that was nearly impossible to jump over or at the very least, get the timing right. The tail swipe wasn't as bad, unless you get hit. Instant two bars... gone.

Getting gold for the game made it interesting. the array of items that you had to plan to get in order to survive made the game somewhat tolerable.

The impossible enemies... Mr. Solomon (The Wizard) and the final boss, Uber-angry, uber-huge Viking guy.

First, the wizard.

Here are his attacks:
Acid Rain
Lightning
Fire Tower
Force Field
Gust (Some sort of dual-fired projectile that he shoots at you)

The main problem with your character vs. the wizard's attacks is that you have this piss-poor sword with no range whatsoever. You must get in close to cut him - - but the wiz puts up this force field that depending how close you come to him, will guaranteed to hit you anywhere between 2-6 times. Sort of like, "combo"-ing you into a corner where he can deliver more punishment.

Another problem with the wizard is his ungodly attacks. His Acid Rain covers half the screen (if I'm correct) and the side that you're on up to just shy of his force field range is the actual range of the rain. but don't get in close, he'll just switch up in mid-attack and smack you up with the force field. The rain does take poison damage (there are two variants of the game I think and the rain in another version, lines the screen as well as poison you) but the poison is a bit too long to wait to wear off.

The Wizard's lightning attack is just a random lightning strike what had a split-second telltale for where it was going to strike. Problem is, if The wiz decides to corner you with that move, the match is over. It's rare to see the wiz rush down any player, but when he does, just admit defeat.

Fire Tower is one of the most trickiest projectiles to dodge. A flaming pillar of fire depending on where he's standing will most likely determine his next attack. One thing that I will mention. You can jump the pillar before as he's casting it, but most likely, Mr. Wiz has intent on keeping it in Force Field range just in case. The sick thing about Fire Tower is, it moves with him. If he's casting it while walking forward, it's moving in front of him. That move alone is not only cheap, but can be used to pin you into a corner - - he can multi-cast this move.

His force Field didn't do any real harm to you, but it's just his ultimate defense against you. Get in close and he can use it to his advantage. Very rarely, does The Wiz force you into a corner and slap you up with force field. He usually varies it up with Lightning to scare you into getting in close, and then slams you with 2-6 hits of punishment. There's nothing really to evading or warning of this move it's just a sign of, "Go away."

And finally, there's Gust. Nothing special, he only uses this to "wake you up" for those few players who are trying to analyze his patterns. Although they home in on you, they only take one bar of health.

The final boss, Uber-angry, uber-huge Viking guy. He seems delivers an amount of pain incomprehensive to the many afterschool children who played this game. Wielding a disk and chain, everything hurt coming from him. 3-4 bars were gone. Upon the fact that this dick starts out with 20+ health, you already know that you weren't supposed to beat him by traditional means. Especially since his health doesn't move after the first 5-6 times that you hit him.

When he throws his disk, lies two problems: Depending on where you are, you won't have enough time to jump or evade the attack and/or the chain counts as damage done to you. Yes, you read that correctly. Touching the chain, counts as a hit.

He doesn't let up. As soon as the disk reaches range, he launches it again and the time frame for him launching these attacks is just shy of a second, which results in you being pummeled... repeatedly.

*sighs* Haven't beaten the game yet, but still, nothing is more insane than that top-down shooter boss that Maco put up.

[PuRe-eViL]

I thought Biomeka (last boss - an Eye thing with like a bajillion pain-in-the-ass things flying around his room attacking you) from Wonder Boy in Monster World was pretty hard. I still haven't beaten him >_>

[Bummerdude]

When combining the data from both Zelda Oracle of Seasons and Ages, you get a final showdown with Twinrova and Ganon himself. Not really something that earns the title of hardest boss of all times, but it was hard enough to be labelled challenging.

First off, you get to fight Twinrova separately. They fly around in the room, shooting balls of fire and ice towards you, while managing to keep up with an evil grin. That's the simple part though, and if you pump yourself with Pegasus seeds to boost your agility, avoiding their attacks will be slighlty easier. Returning their attack onto themselves is the way to go, and after three blows, it goes on to the next part.

As for the next sequence, you guessed it, they merge together and form their intensively evil (yet sexy) form where they can perform both ice and fire attacks. While in the Ice form, the floor is covered with ice which is making it hard to walk smoothly. The attacks consists of blocks of ice gliding around the room to hurt you, and ice balls directed in your way but who are easily to destroy with your sword. In the Fire form, the floor returns to normal, except for say a couple of holes filled with molten lava. I hate this form the most, since they can send of a shot of fire that gets divided into another three shots after reflecting the wall, and they can summon up homing fire bats (HOMING FIRE BATS PEOPLE!) to make the surviving process a little difficult. Just endure it though, beat them up with the ol' classical tap-sword-button-repeatedly technique, and deal permanent damage to them by a method I won't give away cause spoilers are baaaaad.

And finally, but not lastly, we have our very own pig dressed in armor and huge spear. Ganon. His battle style is simple, he appears and does an attack, and then vanishes only to repeat the same process only with a different attack. He can shoot three big balls, 4 smaller balls which in turn divides into three even smaller balls that covers the most of the room (but as long as you are in one of the corners, avoiding them will be fine), and appearing with a grand spear and tries to slice you (and it HURTS). As the fight goes on, he can also make you go on ecstacy, making the whole room blue, flipping the direction buttons making go left go right and go up go down. We also have his slam dunk technique: appear in the top of the room, charge up, shove his fist in the floor making you paralyzed, and then unleash his big ball of doom crashing down your way (needless to say, IT HURTS).

This is a typical "learn by your mistakes" battle. The more you fight 'em, the more you will learn their attack patterns and how to successfully come to the last part of the fight without getting to use your Life Bottle. Not impossible, but it sure is rough.

I would have to say Ozma. The secret boss in Final Fantasy IX, I had to spend months leveling up to 90+ with everyone in my party and getting the best armor, weapons and accesories that I could for everyone to beat him.
You don't need to gather that much preparations to beat him. Egoist's armlet absorbs shadow damage (Doomsday's damage buh bye), and just make sure that all of your characters can deal 9999 damage except for the healer. My team were:

Zidane: If you have stolen enough items, then Thievery does 9999 damage. You basically need to have stolen from tiem to time through the whole game to achieve that kind of level though. If you manage to steal all of Ozma's itmes (or at least his Pumice Piece), then that's fine and dandy too.

Freya: Screw Dragonbreath, Dragon's Crest requires little MP and is still powerful enough to deal a quadro-nine hit to Ozma.

Eiko: Healing. Curaga, Esuna, all that stuff.

Quina: Eat those frog monsters in the swamp to learn Frog Drop, then eat about 130 frogs and train him/her to level 80 and BAM you've got yourself a winning move. Plus that there are other great enemy moves to go by, such as Angel's Snack and Mighty Guard. Those can really help you out.

I cannot of course guarantee an instant win, since Ozma has many tricks up his sleeve to make this battle a complete pain in the ass. But yeah, my crew were all around level 80 (or was it 75?), and after a few attempts, Ozma had gone up in pieces. I even did it before going to Terra. ;)

[MasterSenshi]

I can't say all-time hardest, but I remember the Metroid Prime from the original in the series was incredibly hard.

The stupid thing has like 6 patterns, and you're more or less trapped when you get to it's lair, so if you didn't get enough energy packs, you're more or less screwed. But really I was also out of practice... I know that some old NES games would rival it at least, but it's the hardest boss I've fought in recent memory.

[Antipode]

Oracles Ganon
Yeah - I thought personally that he was much harder than the Ganon from Link to the Past. It took several tries for me. Not the hardest boss, but one of the harder ones I've fought when coupled with both forms of Twinrova. By the way, for anyone considering it, that game is TOTALLY worth it when linked. I thought it was a lot of fun and it really brought back Link's Awakening for me. I'd recommend Seasons first, then Ages.

[Salluz]

Castlevania - Dracula X, last boss... Dracula, of course.

Primarily, fighting Dracula is a strategy issue. You had to beat him with your whip first, and then you had to use your powers. Once you had used your powers, he'd become harder, though his defenses had ceased. Also, the whole fight is hard because you cannot jump off of the cliff. Once, I made the mistake of jumping off of the cliff after beating Dracula, which is the most retarded thing any gamer can do.

BTDD of SNES was genuinely impossible after beating Roper, but on the zsnes emulator, I beat the spaceship, some slink, the Shadow Boss, and the Dark Queen. The hardest bosses were the bosses after fighting Roper. The Spaceship? NO ONE that I know can pass the spaceship level (Of course, I can cheat by saving state on the emulator, but that isn't at all easy).

Majora was a bitch on 64, but I couldn't call her the hardest.

SNK
I liked that about the last bosses in SNK games: they weren't cheap, and they could thrown down.

[ZeroBass.Exe]

The Nemesis weapon in Final Fantasy 10. It's the top elective battle you can fight at the monster ranch. I had Tidus to full power, max sphere grid, damage break skill on his weapon, BLitz Ace, so he did 900,000 damage per break, and everybody in the team had full overdrive bars, with the Entrust skill learned, so they could give Tidus their overdrive so he could Blitz Ace again. I popped off about 5 of these attacks, for nearly 5 million Hp damage total...still wiped the floor with me. One day I'm gonna go back and try again.

[Brushfire]

The hardest boss ever was Mike Tyson/Mr. Dream from Punch out. I could never beat them. I had a friend who swore up and down that he could beat him but when it came time to put his mouth where his mouth was, he failed more than I did.

[Bummerdude]

By the way, for anyone considering it, that game is TOTALLY worth it when linked. I thought it was a lot of fun and it really brought back Link's Awakening for me. I'd recommend Seasons first, then Ages.
I don't even consider it being a linked game. You just get a code after you clear the first game, and then you type it in when starting a new game in the other game, the story continues.

And yes, Season before Ages. That's how they do it in the manga.

[danimal cannon]

The Nemesis weapon in Final Fantasy 10. It's the top elective battle you can fight at the monster ranch. I had Tidus to full power, max sphere grid, damage break skill on his weapon, BLitz Ace, so he did 900,000 damage per break, and everybody in the team had full overdrive bars, with the Entrust skill learned, so they could give Tidus their overdrive so he could Blitz Ace again. I popped off about 5 of these attacks, for nearly 5 million Hp damage total...still wiped the floor with me. One day I'm gonna go back and try again.

I had a friend who I saw beat him. I think his trick was to use keep everyone at auto-revive at all times and use quick hit as much as possible.

[friendlyHunter]

I can't say all-time hardest, but I remember the Metroid Prime from the original in the series was incredibly hard.

The stupid thing has like 6 patterns, and you're more or less trapped when you get to it's lair, so if you didn't get enough energy packs, you're more or less screwed. But really I was also out of practice... I know that some old NES games would rival it at least, but it's the hardest boss I've fought in recent memory.

I remember it took quite a few tries on my first play through that game. But on my 0 energy tank run, I beat that guy on the first try somehow. That, after dying again and again at the Omega Pirate and Ridley. It probably took me multiple attempts to actually GET to the boss room too, those Fission guys are from hell. The Metroid Prime's not that bad though - all of its moves can be dodged or otherwise avoided, you've just gotta be ready for them =)

you're more or less trapped when you get to it's lair, so if you didn't get enough energy packs, you're more or less screwed.
If you step in some big glowy thing in the first room (the same room with the save station), aren't you transported back to the surface? My memory is a little hazy...

[danimal cannon]

BTW the answer is "The Final Boss in PS2's Shinobi"

[Rainman DX]

Okay, time for the antithesis post...

ALL TIME EASIEST BOSS... after the longest and hardest setup.

I was unfortunate enough to own a copy of Ultra's "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles," a functionally simple platformer whose complexity lay in the programmers' humorless idea of a joke by designing mind-numbingly frustrating levels and maps. The design is so specific to the level, in fact, that certain jumps make you appreciate anew the difference between a couple of pixels.

Levels include a three-platformed drop through turtle-sized holes while beating some spiked walls looking to squeeze you into green goo; a level boss who's located on the other side of a masterfully timed jump to a platform located off-screen (i.e. you don't know it's there) that must be made in conjunction with a masterfully timed projectile meant to eliminate the enemy waiting at that side, whose presence limits your ability to land the jump; the infamous Hudson River, whose contents include 8 bombs that must be defused, all in the time of three minutes (a timer is on-screen) while your precious turtles suffer damage from relentless omnipresent life-sucking... plants... with no method of replenishing life in sight.

All this and more to set the path for... Shredder, of course. Arriving in, yes, a Bolt of UberLightning, Donatello cowers in the corner as the final boss of this unfairly difficult game strides over to undermine the skill you thought you had for even getting this far...

Just to take it up the ass when one swipe from Donatello's Bo knocks him to the floor, allowing for a half-second delay animation, followed by a second swipe from the Bo, followed by a third, and a fourth, and...

That's it. Teh Suxor. Booooooorrring.


The game bitched at by ScrewAttack's' Angry Nintendo Nerd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg)

[Adun The Untouchable]

All of the later bosses on Metroid Prime doing a low % run were beasts. Hard mode made it suck even worse.

[DarkAura]

Okay, time for the antithesis post...

ALL TIME EASIEST BOSS... after the longest and hardest setup.

I was unfortunate enough to own a copy of Ultra's "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles," a functionally simple platformer whose complexity lay in the programmers' humorless idea of a joke by designing mind-numbingly frustrating levels and maps. The design is so specific to the level, in fact, that certain jumps make you appreciate anew the difference between a couple of pixels.

Levels include a three-platformed drop through turtle-sized holes while beating some spiked walls looking to squeeze you into green goo; a level boss who's located on the other side of a masterfully timed jump to a platform located off-screen (i.e. you don't know it's there) that must be made in conjunction with a masterfully timed projectile meant to eliminate the enemy waiting at that side, whose presence limits your ability to land the jump; the infamous Hudson River, whose contents include 8 bombs that must be defused, all in the time of three minutes (a timer is on-screen) while your precious turtles suffer damage from relentless omnipresent life-sucking... plants... with no method of replenishing life in sight.

All this and more to set the path for... Shredder, of course. Arriving in, yes, a Bolt of UberLightning, Donatello cowers in the corner as the final boss of this unfairly difficult game strides over to undermine the skill you thought you had for even getting this far...

Just to take it up the ass when one swipe from Donatello's Bo knocks him to the floor, allowing for a half-second delay animation, followed by a second swipe from the Bo, followed by a third, and a fourth, and...

That's it. Teh Suxor. Booooooorrring.


The game bitched at by ScrewAttack's' Angry Nintendo Nerd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg)


I had that game... WORST. GAMING. MEMORIES. EVER.

It didn't last very long in my clutches... I died multiple times over and over trying to defuse all 8 bombs without killing off the turtles... I think I even broke a controller or two... and eventually the cartridge...

[Effef]

Berserker from Legend of Legaia

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/lol/legaia/graphics/screen/berserker.jpg

Uses Curse often, which prevents its victim from executing a specific type of attack depending on the affected body part, Poison Gas which causes poison, and he spams Stone Circle which does around 500 damage to everyone in the party.

When you first come across him, he will rape you several times. You really have to go farther into the area, get stronger, and come back to fight him so you stand a chance.

[Final Guard]

Pick a Japanese shoot-em-up and play the extra stage. Most impossible bosses ever? Mushihime-sama (PS2, arcade) final boss, Touhou Mystic Square extra stage boss Alice Margatroid, Touhou Embodiment of Scarlet Devil extra stage boss Flandre Scarlet, games like that.

Seconded. Every boss in the Extra stages in the Touhou games is just insanely difficult. At least the games are awesome enough to make you want to keep playing on a regular basis.

[Haganegiri]

Devil Hand guy from God Hand.

Jesus christ did my thumbs break after fighting him on Hard mode.

[Lacour]

event #50 in smash bros. melee, the two hands. realize though that there's a difference between playing a boss when you're 6 instead of like 18, they get easier. i could be wrong though.

[Thalzon]

Berserker from Legend of Legaia

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/lol/legaia/graphics/screen/berserker.jpg

Uses Curse often, which prevents its victim from executing a specific type of attack depending on the affected body part, Poison Gas which causes poison, and he spams Stone Circle which does around 500 damage to everyone in the party.

When you first come across him, he will rape you several times. You really have to go farther into the area, get stronger, and come back to fight him so you stand a chance.

Uh, isn't he at the end of the town-dungeon you're in? Or can you skip that place entirely? I just tried to predict when he'd use Stone Rape and defend. Took about 3 tries.

But all the bosses in the game have super moves they pull off from time to time. It's really mostly pattern memorization.

[whatfruit]

Okay, time for the antithesis post...

ALL TIME EASIEST BOSS... ]

Prime Minister Jhon Major on Tony Blairs Election campaign 1997

[linkspast]

Max. (period) from DDR Extreme On heavy... Id love to see some one beat that song.... Its gotta be unbeatable..

[The Pezman]

The Nemesis weapon in Final Fantasy 10. It's the top elective battle you can fight at the monster ranch. I had Tidus to full power, max sphere grid, damage break skill on his weapon, BLitz Ace, so he did 900,000 damage per break, and everybody in the team had full overdrive bars, with the Entrust skill learned, so they could give Tidus their overdrive so he could Blitz Ace again. I popped off about 5 of these attacks, for nearly 5 million Hp damage total...still wiped the floor with me. One day I'm gonna go back and try again.
What I hate about this game is how much powering up you have to do OUTSIDE your main quest to even have a ghost of a chance against the tougher enemies. My brother, who doesn't really play video games, did it, and to this day I have no fucking idea how. That's not what sidequests should be about.
Okay, time for the antithesis post...

ALL TIME EASIEST BOSS... after the longest and hardest setup.
Bob the Goldfish... come on.

[Maco70]

Bob the Goldfish... come on.

Or mysterio from Spiderman 2.
I'd lean towards bob though, that level was really hard.

[Fishy]

Easiest boss:

Diddy Kong Racing, the Walrus. Literally, hold A and don't turn. You will still win the first race.

[DjSammyG]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ

/thread

[Shining Mirage]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ

/thread

Someone already posted this one.

I was thinking about Maximum Carnage for the Genesis.
(For those who don't exactly remember:)
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/Solaris_Vega/Information/586308_79820.jpg

I don't know anyone who has beaten that game. No, no, no, I'm talking about that shitty ending with Venom.

I'm talking about getting through all of those annoying fights against Shriek, Doppleganger, Hobgoblin and the waves of enemies that they throw at you on stage 15 (I believe that's right...) as well as hoarding your Deathlok and Firestar icons until you made it to the grand finale stage right before you showdown against Carnage.

And if you weren't saving those helper icons... you were fucked.

Always, always, ALWAYS, have I made it that stage with no lives and shit for health.

[Maco70]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/Solaris_Vega/Information/586308_79820.jpg


Thank you for reminding me of that, I am off to youtube a run of that game, because it was too friggin hard. ><;;

[Cyanide cr MK]

I beat Maximum Carnage for the first time about 5 months ago. Been playing that game on and off since I was ......... probably 8 years old. I'm 23 now, and have only beaten it once. The game, at least until you get to Carnage , is not that difficult IMO. I can get to Carnage no problem. Defeating him, however......not easy.

One of my favorite games of all time.

[Shining Mirage]

I beat Maximum Carnage for the first time about 5 months ago. Been playing that game on and off since I was ......... probably 8 years old. I'm 23 now, and have only beaten it once. The game, at least until you get to Carnage , is not that difficult IMO. I can get to Carnage no problem. Defeating him, however......not easy.

One of my favorite games of all time.

Agreed. He just simply puts the beats to you regardless of what ya do. But he is beatable.
Along those lines... (For me, anyway)
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/Solaris_Vega/Information/SpidermanxmenSNES_boxart.jpg
This game fits, too.

[Nohbody]

Gohma.....

[Rainman DX]

Gohma.....

... um, which one?

... also, it doesn't matter which iteration of Gohma. They are all easy.

[Beoulve]

I remember playing Final Fight when I was a kid, and I never managed to beat that guy in the wheel chair.

[Koopaking1981]

Metroid Prime from the original Prime gave me a lot of trouble, especially on hard mode...

[ZeroBass.Exe]

I remember playing Final Fight when I was a kid, and I never managed to beat that guy in the wheel chair.

Me neither. I figured, I just got pwnd by a guy in a wheelchair....nah, I'll play something else.

[Maco70]

I just beat gears of war yesterday.
I wouldn't call it the hardest, but that final boss must be a bitch on insane mode.

[Shining Mirage]

Ace Combat 6 on Ace mode.

Mission 15. That's all that I'll leave it as. Not the damned cannon, either. Those Sturgis planes... They aren't the yellows, but fuck, they do a lot more running than firing on you.

And on top of that, it seems like they only fire missiles while fighting in formations of 3-5 planes. And once they start firing, your hud will flash more times than any christmas tree in the world.

[Jragyn]

Hands down: Zelda 2 on the NES, Beating up yur shadow is argueabley the hardest boss. I've never seen anything like it after that. Unfailingly it stomped me time and again and even to this day, it goes unconquered.

[latenightchase]

Ninja Gaiden II was pretty insane. No way to beat it unless you're insanely lucky. Though I agree Zelda II was hard, until you just do the trick of sitting coruched in the corner and stabbing him everytime he walks to you. Not that you'll want to take the time to go back and do it, but it's pretty easy after that.

[Strider Kyoden]

This thread is still alive after years?

Going for all time hardest boss...From all the gaming experience I've had so far...

Absolute Virtue - FFXI

"Casting Spell Ownga." ;_;

[CHIPP Damage]

Hands down: Zelda 2 on the NES, Beating up yur shadow is argueabley the hardest boss. I've never seen anything like it after that. Unfailingly it stomped me time and again and even to this day, it goes unconquered.

No no no. That battle is easy once you know how. It's hard to figure out the right tactics but once you do, it's cake my friend. So that can't be the hardest.

[CHIPP Damage]

I can't imagine how anyone could EVER beat the boss at the end of the Seraphic Gate in Valkyrie Profile without using the cheesy auto-item/union plumes technique. Is it really possible to live through her attacks? If it weren't for that auto-item nonsense, I'd vote for her as the hardest. Although, Freya from Star Ocean 3 REALLY kicks my ass a lot too.

[DJ Mighty]

Someone already posted this one.

I was thinking about Maximum Carnage for the Genesis.
(For those who don't exactly remember:)
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/Solaris_Vega/Information/586308_79820.jpg

I don't know anyone who has beaten that game. No, no, no, I'm talking about that shitty ending with Venom.

I'm talking about getting through all of those annoying fights against Shriek, Doppleganger, Hobgoblin and the waves of enemies that they throw at you on stage 15 (I believe that's right...) as well as hoarding your Deathlok and Firestar icons until you made it to the grand finale stage right before you showdown against Carnage.

And if you weren't saving those helper icons... you were fucked.

Always, always, ALWAYS, have I made it that stage with no lives and shit for health.

Im not sure if the one for SNES is any harder but i beat it ONCE. And never again attempted it again. You cant use Icons on the last stage fight One-on-One Vs Carnage. You start the fight with Spiderman and pray Venom can finish him off. It was tricky, i also found every continue by the time i was able to do this and used almost all of them before i finally beat him.

[Oni-91]

BOSS RUSH(ver.SN2) from DDR SuperNOVA 2.

Yeah, just clearing one of the five songs is hard, but you have to clear all five of the hardest songs in the game, without breaks in between. Oh, and you can only break your combo 3 times in each song.

It's a bit hard...

[Ferret]

There's bosses in DDR?

[Shadowe]

fuck you kayin (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/). If you can GET to the bosses they're complete bastards to fight.

[eppy]

My mom is the hardest boss.

[Xbob42]

Dash Galaxy. The worst NES game I could imagine. If you can get through more than 5 minutes of it, you're pretty hardcore. Not because it's particularly hard, but because once your eyes start bleeding and your brain reels in protest, you're pretty much dead.

[StandingInMotion]

Hands down: Zelda 2 on the NES, Beating up yur shadow is argueabley the hardest boss. I've never seen anything like it after that. Unfailingly it stomped me time and again and even to this day, it goes unconquered.


I can definitely see that... especially having to use Thunder on the Thunderbird in the room right before it... So now not only do you not have any magic for Life (or any other useful spell besides Shield), you still got to keep your health good for the final boss! and it's not easy dodging those fireballs (from a thunderbird) that are flying in every direction from the one point on it that's vulnerable. I wouldn't say it's impossible (I honestly can't remember if I have done this or not) but I'd say it's pretty difficult to beat both bosses in the same life.

And if video games have taught us anything, you can be killed several times before you actually die :P

[Bigfoot]

There's bosses in DDR?

Yup. They mostly consist of tricky stops and BPM changes.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=66UWAyECVBQ

[the_muteKi]

I can only assume Seven Force from Gunstar Heroes was already mentioned?

On the hard levels it's pretty damn hard. And pretty damn awesome.

[Mr Jarna]

fuck you kayin (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/). If you can GET to the bosses they're complete bastards to fight.

Now I hate you :(. Been stuck on Mike Tyson since about an hour after you posted that.

But yeah, I think the true final boss from Demon's Crest (Dark Demon) is nigh impossible. Only beaten him once, and that was with save states and 5 Ginseng pots...and about an hour.

[Oni-91]

Yup. They mostly consist of tricky stops and BPM changes.

Pluto is a hard song, but that exact chart not in the BOSS RUSH ver.SN2. It's only on Heavy there!

This is the nonstop sequence:
PARANOiA HADES (75-300 BPM) - NGO (75-274 BPM) - TRIP MACHINE PheoniX (160 BPM) - Pluto (50-220 BPM) - Pluto Relinquish (50-805 BPM)

All on Challenge. All VERY hard 10s. Four lives FOR THE ENTIRE COURSE (1 bonus life for clearing Stage 1, another for Stage 3). It's so hard, nobody has even seen Pluto's Challenge chart yet...

[The Coop]

You know, I've come to expect certain things in life. The sun coming up, the moon being in the sky, and of course, SNK making bosses that are infuriating. In this case, a certain King Leo in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum.

I wish I could say I own the game, but I can't. As such, most of my play time with this game as been at a friend's house. However, I've managed to chalk up a few hours with this interesting, and fought King Leo a good number of times. Here are my thoughts...

Fuck!... Fuuuuuuuuuuck... Oh c'mon!... What the?!... Wait, he's healing himself?! FUCKIN'...!


This boss is insane, and he's not even the main boss. As one would expect with SNK, his moves are fast, they do quite a bit of damage when they connect, they do damage when you block, and of course, hitting him with even good specials seems to do minimal damage to him. It's insane sitting there getting in a few good shots, only to see that his health bar's barely moved, and that it's refilling. I've yet to beat this guy, or even get him down to half a bar of health. And considering there are three other main bosses in the game, I fear to see what they do to you.

I'll beat this boss yet. I can get into the low teens in wins without any time bonuses or anything, so I'm not doing that badly. I just have to find a vulnerability.

[Arek the Absolute]

I found Mizuchi to be harder than King Lion, but man do I feel ya.

SNK boss syndrome...

[Least100Seraphs]

Hehe. A japanese friend of mine said that in KoF circles in Japan, each KoF is considered to have two versions of the boss: the normal boss or the generous boss.

If you've beaten the game, it's because you fought the generous boss.

[jayc4life]

If you fail to prepare, Omega Weapon in Final Fantasy 8's up there with the best of them, and I'd go on a hunch (even though I've not fought him yet), Yiazmat from FF 12 as well.

Another one I spent a lot of time getting owned by as Jinpachi in the original Tekken 5. There's only so many times you can get your ass whipped by him before there becomes a joypad lodged in your TV screen. For some reason, on the Dark Ressurection version, he was almost too easy, and even on Ultra Hard, I could double-perfect him with Marduk.

[StandingInMotion]

FINAL FANTASY X SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if anyone has said this one or not, but Yunalesca from Final Fantasy X was pretty difficult. Granted, casting Reflect at the start of battle prevents her from blinding, muting, or even casting any kind of spells on you, but she has an attack that inflicts zombie status on all of your characters, and that prevent you from healing yourself.
On top of that, if you do manage to cure the zombie status, she has an attack that instantly kills all non-zombied characters.

On top of that, she can use an attack that confuses your characers, while she continues to slowly chip away at your HP.

But then again, Final Fantasy bosses have their knack for being difficult (except Kefka. Though he was an insane madman, and had the COOLEST fight theme out of almost any I've heard, he was pretty lame as a final boss)

[DarkAura]

Not just the bosses, but the game in general. I Wanna Be The Guy.

I get frustrated just watching the videos on YouTube.

[The Pezman]

FINAL FANTASY X SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if anyone has said this one or not, but Yunalesca from Final Fantasy X was pretty difficult. Granted, casting Reflect at the start of battle prevents her from blinding, muting, or even casting any kind of spells on you, but she has an attack that inflicts zombie status on all of your characters, and that prevent you from healing yourself.
On top of that, if you do manage to cure the zombie status, she has an attack that instantly kills all non-zombied characters.
Yeah, she's difficult, but I had a worse time with Seymour Flux. The bastard will kill your aeons after one attack. The only way I ever managed to beat him is cycle through my aeons one by one, get one attack in, have him knock each of them out, and then just stay alive trying to finish him off.

The monsters in the coliseum, even the weakest ones, require a RIDICULOUS amount of leveling up to be able to stand toe to toe with them. In fact, I complained about it here. (http://www.rpgamer.com/editor/2003/q2/050503tp.html)

[HershDawg]

My first time I played it I knew somewhat what to expect and many of the bosses in the arena I could deal with mostly because I had 3 chars with max str. of course the ones you needed magic to kill I was utterly screwed. I went a little overboard playing that game.

[The Pezman]

I went a little overboard playing that game.
Exactly. You need to go overboard to beat those fuckers. I think this was Square trying to cater to the "OMG I'm level 50 by the end of the first disc!" crowd. And a few monsters, fine. But AN ENTIRE COLISEUM'S WORTH?!

[HershDawg]

Exactly. You need to go overboard to beat those fuckers. I think this was Square trying to cater to the "OMG I'm level 50 by the end of the first disc!" crowd. And a few monsters, fine. But AN ENTIRE COLISEUM'S WORTH?!

Considering I had to figure out how to work as many attacks in as possible other wise I'd still get 1 hit Ko'd. I can't repeat that run through and I never want to again.

[Scufo]

I remember Ice Titan from Kingdom Hearts being really freakin hard, since most of the fight consisted of reflecting back the icicles he shoots at you to take off tiny fractions of his health with each one. Took me countless tries...and if I recall correctly Sephiroth only took me 2 tries (er, on second thought I'm probably thinking of KH2; Sephiroth couldn't have been that easy in KH). That last Riku fight was also really tough. Too many times he killed me in the middle of a frantic heal. Still one of my favorite boss fights ever though.

It's too bad KH2 couldn't rival the KH bosses. Fuckin' reaction commands ruining everything.

[Tricklozen]

I remember Ice Titan from Kingdom Hearts being really freakin hard, since most of the fight consisted of reflecting back the icicles he shoots at you to take off tiny fractions of his health with each one.

I remember Ice Titan as a really stressful boss; constant attacks in one form or the other. Pausing the game would be an option, but then you'd probably lose the rhythm for a moment.

http://home.no/tricklozen/t/polygowned.jpg

[The Pezman]

I remember the Ice Titan as being just hard enough to require all my focus but not so hard that I ever threw the controller away in frustration. In short, a perfect optional boss.

[HershDawg]

I remember Ice Titan from Kingdom Hearts being really freakin hard, since most of the fight consisted of reflecting back the icicles he shoots at you to take off tiny fractions of his health with each one. Took me countless tries...and if I recall correctly Sephiroth only took me 2 tries (er, on second thought I'm probably thinking of KH2; Sephiroth couldn't have been that easy in KH). That last Riku fight was also really tough. Too many times he killed me in the middle of a frantic heal. Still one of my favorite boss fights ever though.

It's too bad KH2 couldn't rival the KH bosses. Fuckin' reaction commands ruining everything.

Ice Titan took me a while I had to go off and level and come back. I couldn't beat Seph on KH, but KH2 I raped him in under thirty secs. Trinity limit, berserk rage rise and repeat.

[Gafgarion]

Ebulon from Mega Man X: Command Mission was a pain in the ass to beat. Not to mention he has a second form... Same for the Beldonas, those are fucking hard to.

[Triad Orion]

Not just the bosses, but the game in general. I Wanna Be The Guy.

I get frustrated just watching the videos on YouTube.

Fully seconded. I Wanna Be The Guy is a very definition of "really frigging stupid hard." Also, Asshole Mario, which can be found on YouTube. I don't know the proper Japanese name for the edit, but that whole game's probably comparable to I Wanna Be The Guy in difficulty if you factor in the Star Road. (And depending your skill at Super Mario World, it may be harder.)

But, off topic for a second, I loved the Dracula fight in IWBTG. Particularly the intro to it because it's just... *funny.*

[Arek the Absolute]

its called kaizo mario

[Triad Orion]

Thanks, Arek. That's the one. The non-tool assisted YouTube runs are some great laughs.

[Gafgarion]

I had trouble with Vaati's final form in Zelda: The Minish Caps also. BTW, I need to play that game again.

[Maco70]

I had trouble with Vaati's final form in Zelda: The Minish Caps also. BTW, I need to play that game again.

I'm playing that game right now,
the last fight is hard you say?

[Gafgarion]

I'm playing that game right now,
the last fight is hard you say?

Yeah. He is pretty tough. It took me about 10 tries to beat him, and I was left with a few hearts. be sure to visit the fairy ladies before you fight him though.

[1makes2]

my girlfriend played final fantasy 7 and she didnt get the hades materia and a lot of other weapons and stuff . then she made me try to beat ruby weapon. now that sux!

[Arek the Absolute]

Ruby weapon is isn't hard, you just aren't prepared.

Don't say the boss is hard if it is the player's error and not boss programming that makes it hard.

[WisdomCube]

I would say Rez from Gex: Enter the Gecko, but I actually beat that one, so the final boss in the first Rayman. I couldn't even get pass the third stage out of about six.

[Oni-91]

I would say Rez from Gex: Enter the Gecko, but I actually beat that one, so the final boss in the first Rayman. I couldn't even get pass the third stage out of about six.
He isn't that hard. It's just the rigmarole of getting to him that's...an annoyance, to say the least.

[XZero]

This may have been stated already, but Mizar from Jet Force Gemini was very difficult. That having been said, I'd love a Virtual Console release of the game so I can play it again (I know it probably won't happen), but I was actually stuck at Mizar for a good week or so before I finally finished the game.

[Gafgarion]

Alma from Ninja Gaiden Black is pretty tough to.

[Maco70]

Yeah. He is pretty tough. It took me about 10 tries to beat him, and I was left with a few hearts. be sure to visit the fairy ladies before you fight him though.

Beat him my second try. =D

[Gafgarion]

Well... I am not sure exactly how many tries, but he was pretty hard.

[Triad Orion]

This may have been stated already, but Mizar from Jet Force Gemini was very difficult. That having been said, I'd love a Virtual Console release of the game so I can play it again (I know it probably won't happen), but I was actually stuck at Mizar for a good week or so before I finally finished the game.

Yeah, Mizar was a bitch and a half. The stupid lightning claw attack of his would just tear you to shreds if you weren't careful. Who knew such a nefarious villain liked playing jump rope?

But he was fun, at least. Hard, but a genuinely fun fight.

[Gafgarion]

Death from Castlevania 1 was fucking hard to. The scythe was like impossible to dodge.

[Sag Ee Mana]

Final Boss in Parodius (the first on Super Nes) xD

/jk

[HideousBeing]

sephirothken from super smash bros melee. Few people have beat that boss. :D

[Gafgarion]

If any of you have played clash of ninja 2, Gaara is so fucking hard to beat.

[Tensei]

If any of you have played clash of ninja 2, Gaara is so fucking hard to beat.

Wait, refresh my mind, was this thread called "All-Time hardest boss" or "let's name random game bosses"? How about you pick ONE boss you thought was the hardest evurr, not twenty.

Anyway, I nominate Ballos from Cave Story. I don't play games very much and the whole hell level was already way over my head. When I managed to get to Ballos he would just kick my ass in a few hits. Also, you can't save before him, so you have to re-do the whole hell level. D=

[Nutritious]

Anyway, I nominate Ballos from Cave Story. I don't play games very much and the whole hell level was already way over my head. When I managed to get to Ballos he would just kick my ass in a few hits. Also, you can't save before him, so you have to re-do the whole hell level. D=

Yeah, but that's what I loved about that level. It was a great challenge, even if you're not going for speed. That thing had me hooked until I finally beat him.

THEN, I STILL wanted to play to see how fast I could do it.

[Gafgarion]

Wait, refresh my mind, was this thread called "All-Time hardest boss" or "let's name random game bosses"? How about you pick ONE boss you thought was the hardest evurr, not twenty.

So, everyone gets one post and then they are done?

[The Coop]

So, everyone gets one post and then they are done?

No, they can post as often as they like. It's all about opinions, and sharing thoughts on bosses that have given you ridiculous amounts of trouble.

Take for example, the final boss of the DOS version of Silpheed. It shares a slight resemblance to it's Sega CD sibling, but it's about five times harder. Lasers firing in seemingly random patterns, bullets being steadily fired that home in on where you are, and shit just going crazy on you. There's one weapon that gives you a chance to win, but it's also the narrowest weapon in the game... meaning that that have to be in spot-on alignment with the boss' weak spot, while to zig zag all over the place. Tack on a forcefield that you have to get rid of so you can actually hurt the boss while dodging all of this, and it's a hell of a fight for an old DOS game.

The Sega CD version of the final boss has definite patterns that, once learned, make it quite easy to kill. The original DOS version of the final boss? Not so much.

[norg]

i would have to say that the most difficult boss battle i ever experienced was that of lagoth zanta in bard's tale 2. every other boss battle in every other game i've ever played pales greatly in comparison.

-= george =-

[Raziellink]

God, Magaki or whatever...the boss from KoFXI is just fucking impossible.

Him, and Dracula's true form in the last fight of Castlevania: Curse of Darkness....It takes an hour to beat the guy, not counting the milion times you have to dodge his attacks. I still need to beat him...

[Shining Mirage]

Drac from Rondo. I have grey hairs from fighting that SOB.

Death from Castlevania 1 was fucking hard to. The scythe was like impossible to dodge.

*nods* Yeah, he too can go back to fuckin' hell.

[uglee musashi]

Death from Castlevania 1 was fucking hard to. The scythe was like impossible to dodge.

thats exactly what i was gonna post as soon as i saw this thread.
20 years later & it still remains unbeaten by me.

[Gafgarion]

Lol, dude, he is so tough. I did it on a rom, raping the save and load states.

[The Coop]

Wow. Been a while. But I return with one word... Zeus.

No, not the Greek god, but rather, the boss character from World Heroes Jet. He's an alien warrior who looks like a human, and holy shit is he cheap. He's a big guy, so his normal hits do quite a chunk of damage (about four will knock you out). His special moves list consists of things like a flaming fist (Megaton Punch), which does insane amounts of damage if it hits, and Gigger Smasher, which does the same. You can literally be knocked out in two hits. No combos, no big strings of small hits, just BOOM! and BOOM!... you're done. In fact, I've heard one of those two moves can finish you off in with one connect (I've not yet experienced this thankfully). Not a lot of moves, but he doesn't need any more really. Those two basic and special moves are plenty to bury your hopes and dreams. Basically, he is way overpowered, even if you put the game on Easy. Crank up the difficulty, and forget about it.

You can't blame the game, as the controls are fine, and the special moves come off with little trouble. He's just brutally, and unfairly, strong. Rugal is fair compared to Zeus :lol:

[DarkAura]

Not really a boss per se, but if you run into a (whateveritis) cult shrine before level five in Morrowind, be prepared to die. Especially that one with the really strong guard woman out front in the sewers of Vivec.

[Schwaltzvald]

thats exactly what i was gonna post as soon as i saw this thread.
20 years later & it still remains unbeaten by me.

In the stage you ought to be able to find some holy water or the boomerang, use the holy water as a very short temporary wall against him and his sickles that fly out. With the boomerang you can spam him in the air and knockout the scythes.

If you happen to have the triple threat icons, spam him with the holy water+whipping as well as spamming with the boomerangs. He's not that hard once you managed to reach him in a comfortable condition...

With the whip only, you can still squeeze out a victory, just need patience and whip him & the sickles as best as you can staying on the right side of the stage. Unless you've managed to sneak onto the other side lol...

[Thalzon]

Nyx Avatar.

In Persona 3, you are on a time limit of about 260 days or so (give or take, a lot of days are skipped over completely). Still, it's a lot of time to build your levels for the eventual final boss battle. It also sorta-kinda doesn't matter if you're level 50 or 90, this boss is a pain in the ass.

Wow so? Well, first off, he's got 14 phases. The first 13 aren't so bad, as he sticks to predictable attacks and can be killed in a few rounds each time. But the final form is an entirely new pain in the ass. By now you've been battling for about an hour. His final form has 4 times as much HP, unlimited SP, and all his stats doubled from before. And he slowly earns more powerful moves as the battle progresses. He can shield himself from ALL attacks (except Almighty spells) for a full round, leaving you with the tedious task of changing your dumb AI partners' strategies so they won't inadvertantly kill themselves by attacking him. This makes an already long fight even longer.

Then, when he's finally down to 25% HP, he begins using a move that hits everyone, does considerable damage, and inflicts random status effects. Sometimes twice in a row. This creates a huge problem, especially if he charms your healers or enrages your main character (both of which happened to me and caused me to lose horribly). The battle from this point onwards is a total crapshoot, as at any time he can use this spell and get lucky with status effects, charming healers so they fully heal him or enraging the main character so he's uncontrollable (thus taking the ENTIRE BATTLE out of your hands as your allies are too dumb to heal status effects properly, not to mention reducing the hero's defense to 0). So, yeah. After two attempts, I packed it in. Don't care about beating the game anymore.

[The Coop]

You know, sometimes in a game, you run into a boss that's a pain in the ass for one simple reason... the bastard won't stand still.

In the game Blood, there's a large stone gargoyle that you have to face at the end of the first episode (assuming you're playing them in order). Now, it's not just that he takes a lot of hits (though he does), it's mostly because he moves quite quickly out in the open, and the arena you're fighting in consists of a circular set of corridors... which happens to be where you need him to be to get a real chance at hurting him.

Out in the open, you can't hit him unless he's chasing you. In the corridors, you can't hit him unless he's chasing you, and he only does so for a short time. While he's chasing you, he'll use one of two attacks. Up close, he slashes you for a nice chunk of damage. From afar, he fires two bluish orbs that do a decent amount of damage. So basically for most of the fight, you're running backwards, trying to lure him into the corridors so that you can hopefully get a few shots off with whatever weapons you have... all while trying like hell to not let him catch up to you.

Oh, did I mention that the floor's not even? Yeah, when you go up, it causes you're aim to point down a bit, and vice versa. This makes getting a shot off tougher.

Anyway, I've only ever beaten him when he got stuck on the edge of a wall. Then I'd unleash everything I had and hope it was enough. If it weren't for that, I'd probably still be running in big circles, wondering what the other three episodes look like.



Oh, and a happy sixth year to this thread :-D

[Deathtank]

Wow. Been a while. But I return with one word... Sagat.

No, not the Thailand god, but rather, the boss character from Street Fighter. He's a Muay Thai warrior who looks like a human, and holy shit is he cheap. He's a big guy, so his normal hits do quite a chunk of damage (about four will knock you out). His special moves list consists of things like a Tiger Shot (Fireball type), which does insane amounts of damage if it hits, and Tiger Knee, which does the same. You can literally be knocked out in two hits. No combos, no big strings of small hits, just BOOM! and BOOM!... you're done. In fact, I've heard one of those two moves can finish you off in with one connect (I've not yet experienced this thankfully). Not a lot of moves, but he doesn't need any more really. Those two basic and special moves are plenty to bury your hopes and dreams. Basically, he is way overpowered, even if you put the game on Easy. Crank up the difficulty, and forget about it.

You can blame the game, as the controls are aweful, and the special moves come off with lotta trouble. He's just brutally, and unfairly, strong. Rugal is fair compared to Sagat :lol:

Fixed.Since I bought Capcom Classic Collection 2, Im obsessed with beating Sagat but it's just impossible! to make it worse trying to pull off a simple fireball is pain in the ass, miss a cuople times and when you notice you're already dead! I was able to win just one round from...how many? 30..40..50..I already lost count how many rounds played against him!
Any good strategy about how to beat him will be welcome!

[relyanCe]

Onslaught, MvC arcade. nuf said.

[CHIPP Damage]

Perhaps it was mentioned and instantly rejected in one of the previous 288 pages, but since there are so many people participating in this thread, why don't we make a top 10 or 20 list? Don't you think it would be fun to try and beat the 20 hardest bosses in video game history as it is retold by OCR? I think it would be. What do you think? We could have a vote or something.

[Tables]

Star Wars Rebel Assault II for the PS1 didn't have much of any bosses, but it had a pretty stupid level.

I think it was level 3, you somehow had the Falcon and you were going through this rocky tunnel. Completely different from most of the rest of the game, you were in a 3rd person view, which already screws you up a little. You're used to being in first person in a ship. But then it gets worse.

As you go through the level, the camera moves and shifts around, really fast, to follow you through. Problem is, the ship doesn't go with it. Added with the tight tunnels, and the fact that the Falcon is as wide as hell, this meant you'd basically be slammed into rocky walls all the time. Death was certain. Sure, you could go vertical, but then you'd be tall as hell and hitting the ceiling. Only took a few hits too, until you exploded and were forced to start at the beginning. Hell, it wasn't even that long of a level, but it was still really lame.

Ruined my childhood, that level.

I got really lucky getting through that one. Although, maybe this is one of those things that got easier when you got older? Does anyone else remember this being so hard, or do I suck at videogames? probably the latter

[The Pezman]

Oh my god the memories.

The godawful memories. Yes, I remember it being difficult as all hell. I don't know how easy it would be now, though. I should go find out...

[LuckyXIII]

Holy crap... I remember posting in this thread shortly after I first joined the site...about six years ago! My how time flies...

I can't remember what I posted (though I suppose I could look...) but given that it's probably within the first 30 pages, if I'm repeating myself I doubt anyone will notice...

RETRO:
The Jaquio from Ninja Gaiden.

MODERN:
The Sand Serpent Colossus from Shadow of the Colossus. I can't remember which # it is, but it was so freakin' hard, I eventually had to look up how to initially damage it on GameFAQ's.

[Triad Orion]

I got really lucky getting through that one. Although, maybe this is one of those things that got easier when you got older? Does anyone else remember this being so hard, or do I suck at videogames? probably the latter

The Corellian Star? Yeah, that level blew. Considering it was the third level and all we had before it was a rail-shooter B-Wing level and an on-foot mission, that's just stupid. I played it on PC where you had variable difficulty levels, but even on just Easy that level was a pain in the ass. The game didn't get that hard again pretty much until you were flying that goddamn TIE Fighter through the canyon.

[The Pezman]

Wow... jeez. I wonder if that game will work on DOSBox...

[The Coop]

Wow... jeez. I wonder if that game will work on DOSBox...

Both Rebel Assault games are fully supported with DOSBox .72. Just be sure to set up their sound manually with their setup programs, as letting them auto-detect causes issues.

[The Pezman]

Sounds great. Thanks very much.

Back on topic, are we considering the hardest bosses to beat without any kind of outside strategy help? If so, the WEAPONs from Final Fantasies VII, VIII and X are damn difficult. But if you consult the tons of literature out there on how to beat them, their difficulty goes down significantly.

[Maco70]

I would agree...
But I have an issue with calling an RPG boss hard just because I can't figure out the trick to beat it.
I don't consider an RPG boss to be hardest boss of all time.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2r5-9hLELA

[The Coop]

I would agree...
But I have an issue with calling an RPG boss hard just because I can't figure out the trick to beat it.
I don't consider an RPG boss to be hardest boss of all time.

All bosses have a trick to beating them. It doesn't really matter if it's a platformer, FPS, RPG, shmup... each boss has a means of being beaten. It's just that some involve a bit of luck as well... especially if their attack patterns are randomized, or if it requires lots of dodging.


Take for example, the final boss of DoDonPachi... the real final boss. Its name is Hibachi, and it's insanely hard. I mean "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!" hard. The bullet patterns cover whatever part of the screen you're on, and they're fast. They also adjust themselves as they move, so there's no "sit here and don't move" periods (or at least, very few). The boss itself also has several forms, with each one getting more pissed than the previous one. If you'd like to see it, here's a link (with a song dubbed over the real music and sounds unfortunately)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xW2Ypl0ChA&hl=en&fs=1


I'm not sure if this is played live, or if it was done with a programmable stick, but there are people who are able to beat that boss. They're able to meet the hard requirements just to get to it, and then dodge all those bullets to win. But just because there are people who can do it, doesn't mean it wasn't a tough road to reach that point. It takes learning, timing, and luck... much like any boss.

Once you get the patterns, counter spells, or rhythms down, then yes, a given boss becomes easier for you. But up until you figured those things out, dying all along the way who knows how many times, a boss from any genre is capable of being hard to me :-)

[Maco70]

That's not an RPG boss.
I am referring to bosses like emerald weapon, or Neo Shinryu. Neither are difficult if you are a high enough level. What makes it hard is that people don't bother leveling up their characters to the point where the bosses are even possible.

That being said, I have never beaten Emerald Weapon. D=

[Mirby]

Neo Shinryu, eh? I need to try to beat him. Also, I have never beaten either Weapon from 7, but my favorite scene in FF7 is when the one weapon gets his head vaporized by the giant cannon at Junon. It has a comical feel to it, imo. The hardest boss I ever faced was Nebula Gray from Megaman Battle Network 5. I could not beat him!

[Jabberbox]

"not to derail the topic: but how did this thread get so huge in a matter of hours?"

oh, wait, sorry, first post was six years ago.

[Mirby]

Hehe, I downloaded that FMV. I forgot the cannon shot it almost point blank. Priceless.

[metalyoshi9]

Not a hard boss at all, but the longest boss battle I can recall at the moment is Kingdom Hearts II's final boss. It took like 45 minutes, if I remember correctly.
The thing would just never die.

[Mirby]

I know what you mean. My bro tried to beat him; got far, and then died. I almost died a few times, but managed to heal myself in time!

[Cottus&Gyes]

2 heads > 1,
40 heads = too many.

Long, epic, fun, and a pain in the ass... C'thun! I don't care how much you hate WoW, he is a well orchestrated boss which requires the attention of every raid member. Is he the hardest? Maybe not, but he certainly is one that is very hard yet fun at the same time. Thats why he is the hardest boss in my opinion, hard for the players and hard for the programmers.

[Maco70]

Not a hard boss at all, but the longest boss battle I can recall at the moment is Kingdom Hearts II's final boss. It took like 45 minutes, if I remember correctly.
The thing would just never die.

Yeah... that was an annoying boss.
I like epic boss battles but seriously now...

[Rambo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xW2Ypl0ChA&hl=en&fs=1


I refuse to believe that's beatable.

[Schwaltzvald]

I refuse to believe that's beatable.

He is beatable, done it myself though only once... Ever since that time I fuck up >:L

And while no where near as difficult as Hibachi, this boss is on the same vein in terms of being in a shmup.

While not as huge as Hibachi, BULLSHIT at 3:49. Didn't see it coming when I got to that point the first time... Still have trouble with it later on... >:L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cANmleJ1Ye8

[Maco70]

Makes me think of the third fourth and final bosses from Ikagura. I still have yet to work out a logical strategy.

[Schwaltzvald]

Makes me think of the third fourth and final bosses from Ikagura. I still have yet to work out a logical strategy.

The thing is that in that vid, it was on hardmode. I don't think I can imagine the next step of difficulty (Lunatic Mode) would look like. I wasn't expecting to be hit by kamehameha waves along with all the crap trying to hit me. Hell I think Hibachi was more fair in that regard as he only did curtain barrages.

[mr.wholesome]

That witch with the guitar at the end of Guilty Gear.

Big danger area flashes so you avoid it and block right?
but what if the chipp (geddit) damage takes off half your lifebar anyway?! Im obviously not getting the trick but at the moment all other fighter bosses (including Gill and GodShinOmega Rugal) look like pussies

[Zombie]

Wow this thread still exists. :shock:

Haha, as soon as i saw it i had the urge to hunt down my old post(s)...

Aha!

I thought Metroid Prime from Metroid Prime was kinda hard... but not super hard, just fun hard.

I still stand by this statement.

As far as bosses go for games i am currently playing, I haven't really played an extremely challenging boss lately... :|

[Ajax]

This thread... so old... I remember posting on it in like... 2004

Well as far as hard boss's go, or even hard games for that matter, 7th Saga is a real beast. Indecently enough it's one of the few games that got harder when it was brought to the US.

I mean, if you get halfway through the game, only to get killed by one of the other heroes and have all you runes kifed... that's it, do yourself a favor and press the reset switch. I mean, any RPG where you are required to fight a guy that is always at or above your level, but with better stat per level bonus' is always going to be a challenge.

On a somewhat sad note, I had gotten a long ways into the game, somewhere near the end I believe, and was actually starting to get to a point where I could survive random encounters on a regular basis, when the SRAM battery on my SNES cart died, that's right, I was even playing it on it's original medium, and I lost my save.

Not sure if I'll ever be able to pick up that game again.

[samurai_of_plague]

nah man, sephiroth, in kh2
omfg, sooooo hard on hard mode, it took me 4 hours just in normal mode

[samurai_of_plague]

Wow this thread still exists. :shock:

Haha, as soon as i saw it i had the urge to hunt down my old post(s)...

Aha!



I still stand by this statement.

As far as bosses go for games i am currently playing, I haven't really played an extremely challenging boss lately... :|


not gonna lie, metroid prime was pretty easy once ya knew what you were doing

[Ajax]

once ya knew what you were doing

That's usually the tricky part there.

[The Coop]

WISE FWOM YO GWAVE!

Having gotten back to playing Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 1, I was reminded of something... Geese Howard. Now, I'm not talking about the Geese Howard from later games in the KoF franchise, I'm talking about the first Geese Howard in Fatal Fury.

The word "infuriating" comes to mind. Why? Because he's one of the most odd bosses out there. He's not insanely cheap all the time like Rugal in the KoF series, but he has this pattern that is simply unbeatable... and it comes along at the most inopportune moments. Normally, Geese can be gotten with the occasional throw, a jump kick, and so forth, making it so you can pick away at him. But once in a while, the CPU gets a wild hair up it's virtual ass, and Geese Howard only does one move. This move consists of his grabbing you when you try to attack him, and then he throws you for quite a bit of damage. Jump kick? Grabbed out of the air and thrown. Punch? Grabbed and thrown. Foot sweep? Grabbed and thrown. If you come in contact with him at all, you're grabbed and thrown.

When the CPU gets in this mood, there is simply no way for you to win, as Geese will also avoid any and all projectile attacks. Sometimes it'll last for entire round, and then stop (enabling you to kick his ass). Other times, it'll result in your losing two rounds in a row, and missing out on the full ending because of your having to continue.

I was reminded that the Genesis version of Fatal Fury does the same thing from time to time. It's a particularly cruel bit of coding if you ask me. And unfortunately, it's one SNK took to heart.

[goombapatrol]

oh god, don't get me started on canary mary.
harder than any boss in that game...

[DJMetal]

Because I simply cannot time jumps, the dragon from wily's castle castle in Mega Man 2 was the most frustrating boss in that game for me. In terms of hardness, Dr. Wily kicked my ass up and down to next christmas in that game. Man...

[wiredzombie]

Because I simply cannot time jumps, the dragon from wily's castle castle in Mega Man 2 was the most frustrating boss in that game for me. In terms of hardness, Dr. Wily kicked my ass up and down to next christmas in that game. Man...

haha, omg, i know exactly what your talking about
i still havent beaten that game

i cant believe this thread still exists

[maniacodepressif]

i cant believe this thread still exists

Yeah lol, but...speaking of which, did you guys try out the new castlevania's bosses? Unless you plan on using healing items, a lot of em are pretty hard when you didn't try a couple times. The hardest Castlevania since Dracula's Curse in my opinion.

[relyanCe]

Yeah lol, but...speaking of which, did you guys try out the new castlevania's bosses? Unless you plan on using healing items, a lot of em are pretty hard when you didn't try a couple times. The hardest Castlevania since Dracula's Curse in my opinion.

Some of the bosses in Ecclesia were just gay... Like that dude who makes his shadow into a big wolf thingy that does like 200+ dmg when you only have like 500 max at that point. That guy was near freakin impossible without some luck/healing items!

I went back and played SotN after beating Ecclesia, and MAN that game is so easy now :<

[Gollgagh]

Some of the bosses in Ecclesia were just gay... Like that dude who makes his shadow into a big wolf thingy that does like 200+ dmg when you only have like 500 max at that point. That guy was near freakin impossible without some luck/healing items!

it's called an Onyx Pin, dude

[Triad Orion]

I've heard Ecclesia is pure Nightmare Fuel when it comes to bosses. Scary to know that's accurate, especially considering I thought the bosses in Portrait of Ruin were just downright mean sometimes. Granted, most of the time the bosses were fairly predictable and it was a lot of pattern recognition, but sometimes they just stupid amounts of damage. It's hard to get the pattern recognition down when you lose a quarter of your life in a single blow. It was especially frustrating given that the regular enemies were for the most part an absolute joke...

And am I the only who thought the fight against two The Creatures in the Den of Evil was just retarded? XD

[DJMetal]

Speaking of Castlevania, the hardest boss for me in that series (besides Death in the first one, whom I've never beaten) was Dracula + Death in "Portrait of Ruin". I may have been underleveled, but it took me 5+ healing items on my 20-somethingth try to finally beat them. I was pleasantly surprised by the difficulty. Still need to play Ecclesia, though. I'm excited now with all this boss ass-kickery I'm hearing about.

[LuketheXjesse]

Atma from Ninja Gaiden 1 is pretty bad.

Gate from Mega Man X6 is pretty up there too, but that game was too hard to begin with.

As a child I had a real tough time with Wily from Mega Man VII. Still kinda do >_>

Bah, there's a lot of hard bosses out there. Can't decide.

[Schwaltzvald]

Atma from Ninja Gaiden 1 is pretty bad.

There's only one actual Ninja Gaiden I where as you're referring to Ninja Gaiden 04 one... Please call it that for now on in the future as I almost raged about there no such being as "Atma" in the first game in the series before realizing it was the 04 version you're referring to...

[LuketheXjesse]

Or just Xbox Ninja Gaiden. Either way my bad. ;)

Only NES game I've played was NG2. Very tough game

[relyanCe]

it's called an Onyx Pin, dude

Never finished the questline for the jewelry lady, I only made it to the elemental set of pins >.>

[Red9]

the queen/sorcerer from battletoads. just try and beat her...:oops:

[Nyuura]

Megaman X3's Sigma for me. First, you blast at him and his heavily-armored ass. Then he tries to possess you while you frantically climb walls in order to avoid the BOILINGHOTMAGMA that's suddenly flooding into the base.

What. The. Junk.

[LuketheXjesse]

Megaman X3's Sigma for me. First, you blast at him and his heavily-armored ass. Then he tries to possess you while you frantically climb walls in order to avoid the BOILINGHOTMAGMA that's suddenly flooding into the base.

What. The. Junk.

I remember that! That was an AWESOME fight! Yeah, I had HUGE trouble with that as a kid. Ah...the memories. Now maybe it wouldn't be too much but it's still a crazy fight.

[Soul Splint]

I don't think I could possibly pick one from any game ever, but in response to the Mega Man posts I've seen...

Does anyone remember Sigma from X4? Yeah, it was kind of his trademark to have to kill him at least twice, but holy $#!% he was a whole new reason to cry in this one. The first stage you could do without getting hit if you were good. The second stage I don't care if you played this game eight hours every day, you would get hit and probably have to use one of your sub-tanks. Then on the third stage you have to fight two even harder forms of him simultaneously. I swear the guys at Capcom were laughing their asses off when they programmed this one...

BTW, I'm talking about playing as Zero, not X.

[XZero]

I had the hardest time with Gate in Mega Man X6. I think it's my impatience, but I just kept getting frustrated with him because it took so damn long to kill him.

Another difficult boss I can recall was Mizar from Jet Force Gemini. I remember getting all but one of the parts for the ship in that game, but giving up when I didn't realize you had to save all of the teddy-bear things throughout the game. A year or so later, I picked it up again and saved all of those things, getting to the Asteroid and to Mizar. A year after that, I finally beat him. That fight gave me a variety of problems.

[LuketheXjesse]

I had the hardest time with Gate in Mega Man X6. I think it's my impatience, but I just kept getting frustrated with him because it took so damn long to kill him.

I'll say it again: That game was frustratingly hard (i.e. stupid hard)

I don't think I could possibly pick one from any game ever, but in response to the Mega Man posts I've seen...

Does anyone remember Sigma from X4? Yeah, it was kind of his trademark to have to kill him at least twice, but holy $#!% he was a whole new reason to cry in this one. The first stage you could do without getting hit if you were good. The second stage I don't care if you played this game eight hours every day, you would get hit and probably have to use one of your sub-tanks. Then on the third stage you have to fight two even harder forms of him simultaneously. I swear the guys at Capcom were laughing their asses off when they programmed this one...

BTW, I'm talking about playing as Zero, not X.

I remember that. That fight may be tougher as Zero, but a HECK of a lot more fun.

After some practice it ain't so bad. I'm REALLY good at Mega Man X games now. But back when I first got to that fight...yeah pretty much what you said.

[Shining Mirage]

All bosses have a trick to beating them. It doesn't really matter if it's a platformer, FPS, RPG, shmup... each boss has a means of being beaten. It's just that some involve a bit of luck as well... especially if their attack patterns are randomized, or if it requires lots of dodging.


Take for example, the final boss of DoDonPachi... the real final boss. Its name is Hibachi, and it's insanely hard. I mean "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!" hard. The bullet patterns cover whatever part of the screen you're on, and they're fast. They also adjust themselves as they move, so there's no "sit here and don't move" periods (or at least, very few). The boss itself also has several forms, with each one getting more pissed than the previous one. If you'd like to see it, here's a link (with a song dubbed over the real music and sounds unfortunately)...

I'm not sure if this is played live, or if it was done with a programmable stick, but there are people who are able to beat that boss. They're able to meet the hard requirements just to get to it, and then dodge all those bullets to win. But just because there are people who can do it, doesn't mean it wasn't a tough road to reach that point. It takes learning, timing, and luck... much like any boss.

Once you get the patterns, counter spells, or rhythms down, then yes, a given boss becomes easier for you. But up until you figured those things out, dying all along the way who knows how many times, a boss from any genre is capable of being hard to me :-)

Watching that made me think of how grateful that I have my hair.

You're actually right. Playing against a boss long enough will provide you with enough time to learn patterns of bosses (and yell a bit at your T.V.) But nonetheless, every boss is beatable.

Another one for me to add would be Parodius 2. The Cemetery stage. I don't recall ever beating that game because of that stage.

The music fits the situation that dude's in.

[wiredzombie]

Idk, I think that the hardest boss I've ever fought was the final boss of Sonic Rush
Jesus, there arent ever enough rings to stay alive

[maniacodepressif]

Damn that Centaure boss is hard in Ecclesia, well not impossible, but ...he already killed me 2 times arrrrg.

Yeah a lot of people tole me Ninja Gaiden ...four, hehe, is hard. I know the first one on NES was quite hard. When you die at last boss, you have to redo the whole stage. At least, the boss which comes in 3 forms one after the other, stays in last form he has beaten you with. The 2 other ninja gaidens we're hard, but I guess the practice I got from playing the first one was enough :)

[glasfen]

Did anyone beat the final boss of Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles on solo mode? Attack, heal, attack, heal, etc. I would get to the third form and die in a matter of seconds.

My guess is you need to have nothing but phoenix downs in your inventory, but who wants to spend hours collecting them? Maybe I needed to use a different race... Anyway, ouch.

[Native Jovian]

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles on solo mode
ur doin it wrong

[Halt]

One of the hardest Bosses in Video Game History. is Mike Tyson, in Mike Tyson's Punch Out. For the NES. I read that in a gamepro, and I can only agree, because it takes impecable timing, and noticing the little things he does before he does ceartain moves.

[The Coop]

I got a wild hair up my ass a few days ago, and decided to pop The Adventures of Batman and Robin into my Genesis. A bit of a long run 'n gun, and it's as hard as Chinese algebra. Still, it's fun. Most of the bosses aren't too bad. The Cheshire Cat is a pain in the ass, but I was reminded that there's another one that really gets irritating after a while.

On level 3, you fight the Mad Hatter at the end. He hovers about in a giant top hat, throwing little spinning Tweedle men, and exploding rabbits, at you. The men aren't too bad to avoid, as they fall somewhat slowly down the screen. The exploding rabbits however, are tougher. They're killed in a couple hits, but when they explode, they knock you to one side or the other. They do decent damage, but it's when you're on the side of the platform that they do their real evil work... by knocking you off. More damage done by the evil little bunnies.

Anyway, the battle really starts getting hectic when the ground starts moving. Now you're racing forward into the screen, and after a short time, cards start coming at you along the platform you're on. After you do more damage, the game starts throwing the Tweedle men, exploding rabbits, and the card obstacle patterns at you. As you weaken him further, the ground moves even faster, and cards come screaming at you. Eventually, you're hopping all over the place, trying to get out of the way of the cards, jump over the rabbits, avoid the falling Tweedle men... it all gets pretty frantic.

Level three in general is a real bitch in the game, thanks to the difficult stage, mid boss, and boss. But when a boss fight has you hopping around more than the rabbits that are trying to kill you, that's a boss worth noting.

[FR]

tAoBaR is an awesome game.

Also, What happened to your Guess that game thread The Coop? You know the one with the game screen shots.

You should revive it.

[anosou]

"Seed a Barren Earth" mission on hard in Armored Core 4. #0 Aretha #6 Cielo are BITCHES!

[The Coop]

tAoBaR is an awesome game.

Also, What happened to your Guess that game thread The Coop? You know the one with the game screen shots.

You should revive it.

DarkeSword's thread? It got shifted to the competitions forum, where it lingered and died off slowly. It's been almost a year since the last post in it, and sadly, those posts were about letting the thread die. Seemed folks simply lost interest (after 95 pages, and two versions of the thread before it, I can't say that I blame them).

[Txai]

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3317

[FR]

oops I thought that was The Coop's thread.

ha ha

[TheSnowStorm]

Hmm, the hardest boss in recent memory that comes to mind is fighting against King Bowser in Paper Mario. Honestly, give me a name of a final boss who heals himself to almost max HP in a final boss fight?

[FR]

That guy is so easy.

[TheSnowStorm]

Like I said, it was recent memory. I haven't play much video games in a while. There was a boss in Fire Emblem 5 (SNES) that I consider to be fuckin' hard because his defense (both magical and physical) was near maxed, he had a powerful spell book which could (and often) OHKO anyone, and he would rest on a fortress, which gives I think +20 to defense and +5 to evade and also, it heals an unit's HP to max every round.

[OneUp]

the queen/sorcerer from battletoads. just try and beat her...:oops:

I recall that I couldn't beat that thing, EVEN WITH AN EMULATOR! You just couldn't run any faster how hard you tried. I heard that the only thing possible is some sort of bug that let you fall trough the floors, but that might be BS. Anyone who made it?

[Flare4War]

My brother won her using a game saver. I'm quite certain we never would have won that game if we hadn't cheated with the game saver.

[Gollgagh]

Oh awesome, I thought this thread had finally succumbed to the will of the thread pruner. Glad to see that this is not the case.

[Global-Trance]

The first time I got to the end of Battletoads, I beat the Queen on my first try.

[AmazinJason]

The Sanbone Trio from Gitaroo man. Still haven't even beat em on masters play.

[FR]

I think I posted this already but in Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow(I think that's what it's called) I had a hard time doing the sealing thing to beat Death. I killed him seven times in a row but I couldn't seal him. I had to get my bro to seal him for me.

[Zephyr]

From the gamecube days... Some of the bonus fights in Mega Man X command mission (the RPG) were ridiculous. The tails family and rafflesia were really tough.

[Toadofsky]

Actually I can recall a few...

Super Mario World, I was like 7. And the fight with Bowser, I'd get so scared, I had to have my dad beat it for me.

Donkey Kong Country 1 and 2. King/Kaptain K. Rool was so difficult for an 8 year old's brain to figure out.

Super Metroid. Ridley, need I say more?

Super Mario RPG. Yaridovich. I remember never being leveled up enough to get through the fight easily. And it was always the hardest fight for me. But it was extremely rewarding to finally beat him each time I went through the game.

Rayman. The Viking Opera Lady. It was hard enough getting to her in the art world, but that fight with her took FOREEEVER.

Viewtiful Joe, the Devil Dog Boss, and fighting Captain Blue for the last time. Try doing that on Adults difficulty. Can't believe I attempted playing that game on V-Rated, that's just suicide, especially as Sylvia.

There's so many more I could list, but I can't remember them.

One a non-boss note, RAINBOW ROAD ON SUPER MARIO KART (SNES), can't remember how many times I came in 6th or LAST in that race.

[Bagel Fuzzynuts]

I can't get past Glass Joe on "Mike Tyson's Punchout!"

Don't laugh, I'm not kidding.

[FR]

Don't laugh, I'm not kidding.
Too late.http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5682/777c.png

[Ferret]

Rainbow Road is typically the Asshole course in Mario Kart...


...Goldwyn in Uniracers may not be a boss, but I sure hate his ass. Computer-assisted bastard.

[Halt]

I can't get past Glass Joe on "Mike Tyson's Punchout!"

Don't laugh, I'm not kidding.

I own That game. and in a Game Pro Magazine, like a year or 2 ago. I'm not sure. They considered him one of the hardest bosses in video game history, he is really fucking hard to beat.

[cobaltstarfire]

Super Mario RPG. Yaridovich. I remember never being leveled up enough to get through the fight easily. And it was always the hardest fight for me. But it was extremely rewarding to finally beat him each time I went through the game.

Yaridovich is a tough cookie even when you are leveled up enough, he hit's like a truck, so even if the battle is done fairly quick and easy it's still a bit scary.

[Millipede]

I don't know if anyone here has played the Jurassic Park game for the genesis (much different from the snes version), but fighting Dr. Grant when you were the raptor was just stupid. As soon as you got close to him he'd just shock you with his stung gun (which was annoying since when you played as Grant he was constantly getting mauled). There was some sort of trick you had to pull with the scenery, but I could never figure it out so I've never beaten it.

[LuketheXjesse]

You have to tear down the T-Rex or something.

Read about it in a magazine :P

[Thalzon]

I've been playing Rune Factory Frontier, and it's been pretty fun so far. I've only fought one boss, but it was a damn difficult one.

The boss of the first dungeon (Green Ruins) is a giant Gryphon. The thing does 60 damage, easily, can fly, keeping him out of range, and even spawn chicken enemies of its own (fortunately, it also kills them). It has a charging attack that can cause it to become dizzy if it runs into a wall, but late into the battle when it gets its attack/speed boost it becomes much more difficult to get it anywhere near the walls. Oh, and it starts doing around 80 damage per attack.

It's a shock, especially since the DS games were so much easier in terms of boss fights. Bosses can be fought again as well, and I think their power either scales with the player's level, or they just get stronger each time they're killed. I deduced this when, after I defeated it once and fought it again, it was no longer weak to fire attacks. Either way, I wasted a lot of potions, only to die in the home stretch.

[Native Jovian]

Isn't Rune Factory a Harvest Moon spin off? I like the Harvest Moon franchise, but there's something about the idea of attacking a gryphon with a hoe or a sickle that cracks me up. Granted, you could probably do some damage with the hammer or the axe, but if I were playing the game I'd totally go into battle armed with the fishing pole or something, just for lulz.

[Thalzon]

You do have swords, spears, and the like as well. Farming tools don't lend themselves to high damage or quick attacks. Not to say it can't be done, though. Hell, the watering can is a great way to clear out enemies surrounding you.

[wyvernxk7]

In "The World Ends With You" ("It's a Wonderful World") for the DS, Hanekoma's noise form is severe! Even on easy, the first time you come across this dude, you're dead within twenty seconds... Fierce!

[GenericDerrick]

Super Mario RPG

Axem Rangers or Smithy. I remember rubbing my fingers on my A and B buttons on the Axem Rangers so hard my thumb ended up busting open. (I was like 8 lol)

Smithy was just a douche because he had so much health and I was like, "OMFG, WHEN THE HELL IS HE GONNA DIE!!".

[Lyreat]

Oh God, Yaridovich.

SMRPG was always pretty easy to me because I like to powerlevel, but I'd say ol' Yari is the second-hardest boss in the game (next to Culex).

Smithy was cake to me, but again, I was packing Lazy Shell (isn't that what it's called? memory fails sometimes) armor, the best weapons and accessories, and fully leveled lv. 30 characters.

If I did it at, say, level 23 or so with the standard store-bought stuff, it would be QUITE the challenge.

I should play back through and do that, actually.

[Nyuura]

Super Mario RPG

Axem Rangers

This.

I actually gave up on Super Mario RPG because of the Axem Rangers. :( That was... years ago.

[Sag Ee Mana]

About Super Mario RPG, I think the hardest boss thing was a 'vine' (yeah yeah, it's not a boss ^^, only a ladder) for a friend, because Mario had to jump to one vine to another to go to a city in the clouds (forgot the name, 15 years later...) and he couldn't go in diagonal directions with his pad. So it was simply impossible to jump from vine to vine at a point.
So he couldn't clear the game :lol:

[BigJosh]

Oh God, Yaridovich.

SMRPG was always pretty easy to me because I like to powerlevel, but I'd say ol' Yari is the second-hardest boss in the game (next to Culex).

Smithy was cake to me, but again, I was packing Lazy Shell (isn't that what it's called? memory fails sometimes) armor, the best weapons and accessories, and fully leveled lv. 30 characters.

If I did it at, say, level 23 or so with the standard store-bought stuff, it would be QUITE the challenge.

I should play back through and do that, actually.


Yeah, but it is a pain is going after culex, without the extra special armors or "Lazy shell" items (Attack+Defence)
It took me so many times to get culex. Then again I was Using mainly geno and mario to attack while peach healed the rest (That tatic doesnt work as well as i thought it would back then). And i was like..level 21 or 22.

[Native Jovian]

Hell, the watering can is a great way to clear out enemies surrounding you.
This officially made my day. Alas, just one more reason that I really need to get my hands on a DS...

Edit - Since I thought of something actually on-topic and I don't feel like double posting.

Anyone still play Starcraft? RTS games tend to not have "bosses" in the traditional sense, but I think certain levels sorta count. There's an online UMS map (an official Blizzard-released one, not a fan-created one) called Mercenaries II. It's stupidly hard. A friend of mine -- who is quite good at Starcraft -- actually refuses to believe that it's even possible (he's wrong, because I've beaten it multiple times, but just goes to show you that the frustration level on this thing).

The map starts with three players against four computers. With a good group, and a bit of luck in your starting positions, this usually isn't too hard. However, in Mercs II, all four CPUS (a Terran, a Zerg, and two Protoss) start with complete bases; the only limit on how fast they can rush you is how fast they can collect resources to build their units. Three of the four also have hero units; the Terran has a supercharged battlecruiser, the Zerg has a mutalisk, and one of the Protoss has an archon (the meanest part is that, unlike a normal archon, all of its health is HEALTH, not shields, so you can't EMP your way to easy victory). Fortunately the hero units have a bit of custom AI to them; the enemy won't rush you with them (unless they've got like virtually nothing else), but they WILL use them for base defense, which means that any rush YOU might hope to pull off is doomed from the outset.

Fortunately, each player also gets a unique hero (though nowhere near as powerful as the enemies') and a specially upgraded unit. Each hero is a normal in-game hero unit (eg Raynor, Hunter-Killers, Fenix) pumped up a bit (and fortunately NOT required to survive in order to win), while each upgraded unit is a standard unit (eg dragoon, goliath, guardian) that starts with full upgrades (including spells, if any). The fun part is that you can apply normal unit upgrades on TOP of that, which makes them awesomely powerful. You start the game with your hero unit and two of your upgraded units already spawned. This is the ONLY thing that saves you from the first rush. After that, you have to clear virtually the whole map of the enemy -- and it's not a money map, so you have to strike quickly and secure expansion bases or else you'll run out of resources and be overrun.

Fun times, overall, but it can be frustrating when you see a mass of enemy siege tanks, supported by carriers and guardians, all charge you at once. It's completely impossible unless you have a group of players who are not only individually decent, but good at working together.

[Gario]

Quote:Originally Posted by GenericDerrick
Super Mario RPG

Axem Rangers

This.

I actually gave up on Super Mario RPG because of the Axem Rangers. :( That was... years ago.

Sorry, this (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22533) is the thread you were looking for, my good man.

Well, now that I'm here, I'd say BoF IV's final boss was a son of a bitch... It was hard, but a good hard, if you now what I mean. It took 2 1/2 hours to kill both forms, and it actually required me to really think the fight through (which isn't true for any other game...).

'Course, I was underleveled for the fight (~37, 38 for the end), so I'm sure that contributed to the difficulty.

[Linkjing Donuts]

hardest boss: jumping onto the helicopter at the end of mirror's edge




no but really wtf kind of ending was that

[FR]

thanks for ruining it linkjing

[Dr.Flintlock]

I'd have to say fighting Dark Fact in Ys Eternal (the remake on the PC) is one of the hardest fights I've ever encountered. If you can't nail him good in the first few seconds, you're pretty much fucked for the rest of the fight. Also, Darm in Ys Book 2 (The turbo CD) is almost impossible if you're not maxed out in levels. But I guess this is what you get for going after bosses that have awesome 80s voice actors .

Also, Hibachi from the DonDonPachi Series is pretty much a head-splosion, unless you're tight into the danmaku scene.

And since Super Mario RPG seems to have some pretty nasty bosses, I'll have to say I had a hell of a time with Johnny Jones. I kept killing all his henchmen, and had to have Mario go One-on-One with him. I was under-leveled and pathetic at RPG's at the time, so he pretty much owned me for awhile.

[Schwaltzvald]

Finally got Marisa on IN on lunatic mode :D

Currently now though my hardest boss is that fucking bouncing Core Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlRfTtIv8Zs) on Gradius V

>:L

[BardicKnowledge]

Finally got Marisa on IN on lunatic mode :D

Holy shit, that's amazing. I've only finished IN on Normal with Reimu's homing missiles... :(

[Schwaltzvald]

Holy shit, that's amazing. I've only finished IN on Normal with Reimu's homing missiles... :(

I think that's one of the issues I've been having in terms with the Gradius V Boss, It feels different with a keyboard versus a ps2 controller. Sure it's possible to defeat it but it just gives me a lot of trouble reorienting myself between the two controls.

Hell I can say... Beat Satori Komeiji in SA on hard mode and feel like it was a fun challenge where as most seem to get scared shitless on facing her on normal mode :lol: (or so I hear a lot on other forums some time ago), while get shitted all over on by the last boss on Super R-Type for the SNES. (although I only noticed the flaws on that game just recently but even flaws never stopped me from trying to be awesome...)

*cough*Berserker Merlin*cough*

[StandingInMotion]

Time for me to sink into some rather obscure games...

A game called Spiritual Warfare had Satan for the final boss... he wasn't difficult, per say... it was mostly just an annoying fight. He jumps back and forth on the back of the screen shooting demons and fire at you, with a rock sitting between you and him, following your movements... so every time you try to throw something at him, the rock deflects it.

I love the dotHack games (I like the first four over the last three), but there was a hard boss in the last three games. <SPOILER ALERT>:

I would always die fighting Ovan... no matter how powerful I was, he seemed to always get the best of me. However, Ovan himself wasn't the only problem... his Avatar form, Corbenik, also held a big challenge for me... it doesn't help that they are one right after another either...

</SPOILER ALERT>

Also in the dotHack games, the very final dungeon of the first four games... fifteen floors full of Data Bugs, constantly keeping your infection level in critical condition, only to have to face off against a bugged boss at the end as well. Nothing makes me more angry than getting to floor eight, only to acheive a randomly pulled Game Over because of a critically high infection level.

[Schwaltzvald]

Time for me to sink into some rather obscure games...

A game called Spiritual Warfare had Satan for the final boss... he wasn't difficult, per say... it was mostly just an annoying fight. He jumps back and forth on the back of the screen shooting demons and fire at you, with a rock sitting between you and him, following your movements... so every time you try to throw something at him, the rock deflects it.

This sounds like the cheap "goryias" (sp?) in ALttP Dark World first dungeon where u simply shot at them and then move in position that causes them to walk into the line of fire/arrow. In that game though it seems only slightly more complicated but easily done...

[StandingInMotion]

This sounds like the cheap "goryias" (sp?) in ALttP Dark World first dungeon where u simply shot at them and then move in position that causes them to walk into the line of fire/arrow. In that game though it seems only slightly more complicated but easily done...

Yes and no... you can't maneuver nearly as well on this game as you can ALttP, and the boss doesn't actually move with you. His shield does, but Satan moves wherever he wants to, while the shield kinda sits in your face.

[Linkjing Donuts]

thanks for ruining it linkjing
at least you can be disappointed now rather than when you play it

[iJoel]

Suikoden 2. There was a fight with a officer and his henchmen, and you're supposed to lose. But you can win. I spent days leveling up and just barely beat him. Which in turn, got me nothing, except he said something different after the battle. I was kinda hoping for some super cool rare item, but no *sad face*.

Ninja Gaiden's last boss used to be hard, but I played the game like crazy until I was able to beat him without even trying mwhah.

& & Kefka, hated kefka. He's the reason I haven't beat FF3/6 yet ;P.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

& & Kefka, hated kefka. He's the reason I haven't beat FF3/6 yet ;P.

Huh??? He's one of the easiest FF final bosses. You must be massively underleveled, ore maybe you haven't discovered Ultima yet. Teach Ultima to a few characters, and just spam that spell ad nauseam throughout that battle. Piece of cake.

[Schwaltzvald]

Kefka, hated kefka. He's the reason I haven't beat FF3/6 yet ;P.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/youdonthatemethatmuchreally.jpg

Aww cmon you don't reaaalllly hate moi now do you..?

As of late hard bosses, aside from Koishi being a real bitch what with her "flaming pillars" of death, they are rather difficult to run into these days...

[LuketheXjesse]

& & Kefka, hated kefka. He's the reason I haven't beat FF3/6 yet ;P.

Go kill a bunch of cactaurs for a ton of AP to give your chars more spells.

Easy cheesy.

[Native Jovian]

Man I didn't even get to Kefka on the FF6 save I had ages ago. I got to the final dungeon and every single random battle I ran into practically game over'd me. And I hate grinding so hard that I never bothered to do anything about it.

[Thin Crust]

This has probably already been said but I'll just post it anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-mePr1-ZQ

[Fenrir]

This has probably already been said but I'll just post it anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-mePr1-ZQ

Bullet hell shooters bring back an old eye twitch

[Sir_Downunder]

Safer Sephiroth from FF7 for me. I managed to beat JENOVA Synthesis and Bizzaro before hand no problem, and then before I even get a move on Safer Sephy: boom, Super Nova'd, dead'd AND two party memebers frog'd.

-_- to this day I have beaten FF7 because of that bastard...

... Or FF8 for that matter... :cry:

Also, if you're actually crazy enough and have No More Heroes for the Wii, try fighting Henry (the last boss) with only the Bloodberry (first weapon) equipped on Bitter mode.

Let me tell you two things:

1. Very fun and hard boss fight.

2. Never, ever again.

[StandingInMotion]

Huh??? He's one of the easiest FF final bosses. You must be massively underleveled, ore maybe you haven't discovered Ultima yet. Teach Ultima to a few characters, and just spam that spell ad nauseam throughout that battle. Piece of cake.

You don't even need Ultima. The lowest level I think I've fought Kefka was 52, and the most powerful spell I knew was flare. He's STILL a piece of cake.

I've not tried this, but I've heard a low-level Celes/Edgar/Setzer team is pretty challenging (they are the ONLY characters you actually need in order to get to Kefka's dungeon).

[Geoffrey Taucer]

http://www.geoffreytaucer.com/randomstuff/kefkaboner.gif

Kefka definitely appears to be hard.

[Ferret]

You're getting punished for that one.

Nice fanart at the top of the page by the way, I wonder who drew it...!


ALSO!

The all-time hardest boss is the one that you work for.

[StandingInMotion]

[image]

Kefka definitely appears to be hard.

Haha nice... you've ruined Kefka for me.:<

EDIT: Also, has anyone here played Earthbound? I just went through it this week... I have to say Giygas is the first boss to really terrify me... for hard-to-explain psychological reasons, but all the same it made the boss battle that much more difficult... the battle is hard enough as it is without all the horror anyway...

[Schwaltzvald]

The all-time hardest boss is the one that you work for.

Oh please the all time hardest boss would be one you give resistance to. :wink:

Well lately I've been doing some "no-bomb" runs and this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-IwBZKgKs) is not being very cooperative at all...

motherfucking swirling swastikas keep fucking me up. (or manji if you want to be pc)


edit: I've played earthbound and honestly the final form did shock me the first time but not terrify me. More like a "well shit..." moment when I got to him.

[Vyse of Arcadia]

EDIT: Also, has anyone here played Earthbound? I just went through it this week... I have to say Giygas is the first boss to really terrify me... for hard-to-explain psychological reasons, but all the same it made the boss battle that much more difficult... the battle is hard enough as it is without all the horror anyway...

I can't say Giygas terrified me...but Giygas certainly disturbed me.

Hm. I'm going to divide my hardest boss into categories. For RPGs, probably the last boss of Evolution on the Dreamcast. (Can't remember his name.) For non-RPGs almost any classic Megaman boss will do.

[StandingInMotion]

I can't say Giygas terrified me...but Giygas certainly disturbed me.



edit: I've played earthbound and honestly the final form did shock me the first time but not terrify me. More like a "well shit..." moment when I got to him.

I guess I should explain a little bit... Giygas plays off of my biggest personal fear... and it's kind of hard to explain...

Let me try to put it this way: I hate masks. Not like halloween masks, but blank, featureless masks. The idea of knowing that something is there, but not knowing its intent, its purpose, its reason... and being unable to figure out why, really scares me.

Giygas, for me, is a featureless (he IS formless) entity, whose motives come off as odd if non-existant. People say he was acting in self-defense in the final battle, and that his dialogue is based off of a rape (coming from the victim's point of view... this is confirmed by the creator). However, everything happens so randomly, and none of it truly makes any sense to me and only compounds the obscurity of its existence... The music doesn't help any, as it's simply a flurry of dissonance and random sound effects.

I really have a hard time conveying this to people face-to-face, simply because I don't truly understand my own fear. A lot of people say that this kind of stuff scares me because I like to feel in control, but I know for a fact that's not it... it's not merely the fact that I can't figure something out... I just really don't know what it is.

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic long post :-P

[Archaon]

300 pages.

You'd think we'd be running out of bosses by now.

[Schwaltzvald]

I hate masks. Not like halloween masks, but blank, featureless masks. The idea of knowing that something is there, but not knowing its intent, its purpose, its reason... and being unable to figure out why, really scares me.

The music doesn't help any, as it's simply a flurry of dissonance and random sound effects.

it's not merely the fact that I can't figure something out... I just really don't know what it is.

So basically something like this scenario (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5VNsEeAMY), or items such as this (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/noh_mask_signed_1.jpg) terrify you..?

Or is it really just a fear of the unknown..?

back on topic, another one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTIeyZ4jfCg) I'm attempting a "no-bombing" run.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffff

[StandingInMotion]

So basically something like this scenario (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5VNsEeAMY), or items such as this (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/Schwaltzvald/noh_mask_signed_1.jpg) terrify you..?

Or is it really just a fear of the unknown..?


Like I said, it's really hard to explain. That video looks to me to be too much of a Blair Witch ripoff, though I didn't actually watch all of it (I'm at work... it's kind of difficult to have videos like that up).

The unknown doesn't scare me... Ghosts/demons don't scare me... freaky images don't scare me... aliens don't scare me... whatever... it's just too hard to explain over the internet I guess :/

... but anyway, back to the topic at hand...

[Schwaltzvald]

For a BR ripoff it does it a hell of a lot better :lol: but perhaps I'm biased...

Aside from the classic Airman (he's not impossible but it's a fun joke to say he is) option and maybe Quickman (with only buster), I can't really think of ONE classic megaman boss being impossibly difficult.

[Super-Duper Sombrero]

Zangief.

I was playing through Street Fighter 4 to unlock all the characters, which, unfortunately, requires you to play as El Fuerte. This is bad enough as it is, as I'm terrible as him (and I'm convinced he's the worst character in the game).

On top of that, his rival is ZANGIEF, the worst possible matchup in history. Zangief has about twice as much health as any other character, and does ridiculous amounts of damage. On top of that, nearly all his attacks other than the instant green nutshot rush are grabs, which are unblockable.

Remember that I didn't know how to do Fuerte's belly flop or jump grab or anything that actually works, and you have two hours of "Heavyweight wrestler destroys malnourished Mexican man in what police are calling 'assisted suicide.'"

Good times.

[HideousBeing]

Savato.

For one reason: The first time you encounter it, you are operating as Derek. He uses the healing touch near the end and the logical assumption is that you cannot use it again. Like every other operation in the game. But this time, you can.

It took me so long to figure out, that by the time I did discover it, I was so proficient at everything before that I scored an XS.

Also, if you use the healing touch before the game does, you have just failed the operation. But if it's your first time, you wouldn't know that yet.

[Gario]

300 pages.

You'd think we'd be running out of bosses by now.

I'm sure many, many bosses are being recycled throughout this thread - unless you really want to check and cross-check the entire thread of repetitions and such, I don't think we will ever know...

Actually, screw this - I'm gonna go do that right now; see you guys in a couple of months :shock:.

By the way, any boss in Amagon is insanely difficult if you are not the strong man (but I know it is possible - my oldest brother has done it, back in the day). Big creature comes straight for you, one hit is instant death, and it takes a shitload of bullets to take it down. Ah, I hated (and still hate) that game.