All Time Hardest Boss

[The Author]

Nostalgia made me search for this, I was greatly happy to see this thread still exists.

Also: Shadow Link from Link's Adventure was hard.

[Meteo Xavier]

I never did beat Emerald Weapon.

[MaxFrost]

Crab Boss in Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia. For some stupid reason, it took me like 30 tries to kill that bastard. Even dracula was easier to kill.

[Dr.Flintlock]

Umm, TV Dinnah from Little King Story is some serious business.

Ready to pull that Geography education out your ass? I never panicked so much trying to find Italy on a map. I actually had to find a map of the world to use as reference because I was sucking so much.

[Ajax]

Crab Boss in Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia. For some stupid reason, it took me like 30 tries to kill that bastard. Even dracula was easier to kill.

If by 30 times you mean 30 times to kill the boss without getting hit in order to get those worthless medals, then I agree with you, otherwise... yeah he was pretty tough.

[2Radical]

Seymour from FFX, halfway through Mount. Gagazet literly took me ages to defeat. Personally alot of the FF-x battles were harder than most RPGs.

Also Hades from Herc's Adventures. I remember doing countless Elis runs to get over 30 Gyros all wasted on Hades. Medusa was pretty hard aswell.
If you havnt played Hercs adventures, get a mate and co-op that game naow.

[K.B.]

Nostalgia made me search for this, I was greatly happy to see this thread still exists.

Also: Shadow Link from Link's Adventure was hard.
I was about to post in the other thread that yes, this thread does still exist.


Rehashing from page xx, Dracula without knowing to get triple boomers on CV1 would by my hardest boss (otherwise it would be the Grim Reaper, who was surprisingly easy to beat now that I'm an adult). Recently, Metroid Prime was a bitch. Had to do that battle around a dozen times before I won.

[relyanCe]

Anyone who has played through Odin Sphere can tell you how much of a whore the last boss, Leventhan the Last Dragon, is.

Imagine fighting Sheng Long (the titular dragon from DBZ) by having to run halfway across his back to get to his vulnerable head, all while trying to evade his lightning strikes/exploding orbs of death. He can also eat you. or eviscerate you with his spiny-parts. or just make you go poof with his deathbeam breath (this dragon doesn't screw around with firebreath he gets fricken laser beams). Not to mention that, as a final "screw you" to the player, if you actually manage to kill it with any character other than the one prophesied to kill it, you watch your player DIE ANYWAY and the world explode.

[LuckyXIII]

hoping to avoid n00bia, but Lavos...not just difficult, but irritating.

The other day - I think I had just gotten the Epoch - I was winding down but still had some time to kill. I thought I'd try a suicide run on Lavos, just to see how long I could last. So I warped there from the End of Time, and what I thought would be only a 5 minute massacre turned into a 30 minute battle and I was about to run late (to a previous engagement).

So now I have no idea what to expect when I go after it for real.

[K.B.]

Holy crap that was like hearing me from 10 years ago. 13 years ago, I guess, to be precise.

All my current psxing... vindicated. Thank you, sir.

[8BitBliss]

If anybody has played KOF 97 they know Orochi is the cheesiest hardest boss in a fighting game. I think I wasted more quarters trying to beat this guy than on any other arcade game.
http://www.geocities.com/hk_kyo_2002/kof-gif/all-boss/orochi_sdm03.gif

A player using Orochi against the computer. Yes the computer would play just as cheesy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvOqwHMgcMI&feature=related

[Thin Crust]

Seymour from FFX, halfway through Mount. Gagazet literly took me ages to defeat. Personally alot of the FF-x battles were harder than most RPGs.

Also Hades from Herc's Adventures. I remember doing countless Elis runs to get over 30 Gyros all wasted on Hades. Medusa was pretty hard aswell.
If you havnt played Hercs adventures, get a mate and co-op that game naow.

This guy beat him without the sphere grid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81oUcWetAWw
Seriously though, if you want to beat any boss, just get all your aeons to overdrive, and use them all.

[Dr.Flintlock]

Anyone who has played through Odin Sphere can tell you how much of a whore the last boss, Leventhan the Last Dragon, is.

Imagine fighting Sheng Long (the titular dragon from DBZ) by having to run halfway across his back to get to his vulnerable head, all while trying to evade his lightning strikes/exploding orbs of death. He can also eat you. or eviscerate you with his spiny-parts. or just make you go poof with his deathbeam breath (this dragon doesn't screw around with firebreath he gets fricken laser beams). Not to mention that, as a final "screw you" to the player, if you actually manage to kill it with any character other than the one prophesied to kill it, you watch your player DIE ANYWAY and the world explode.

Oh God, how could I have forgotten that mother...I actually didn't think it mattered which character you used, so I used Velvet (thinking they were supposed to be chronological) beat it, and then had to to THE ENTIRE DAMN THING over again.

But at least the fight was epic enough.

[LuketheXjesse]

Anyone who has played through Odin Sphere can tell you how much of a whore the last boss, Leventhan the Last Dragon, is.

...it's not that hard. Far easier than that damn cauldron, now THAT was one bitch of a fight.

Seymour from FFX, halfway through Mount. Gagazet literly took me ages to defeat.

Oh shit, I didn't play the game for another year or so becaue of how hard that fight is. I wouldn't call him the hardest boss of all time though - FFX is just a game where you have to know what you are doing. That and I ran away from a bit too many fights...

[Artemis]

In terms of an actual boss, I'm sure someone has already mentioned Doom Dragon from Golden Sun? (The post is huge, I haven't read it all...)
I just remember being 10 or 11, it was the first real RPG I'd ever played, the fight had gone on for a good 45 minutes, and when the three-headed thing finally finished me off I wanted to cry and never pick up my game boy again. It was traumatizing.

And, not a boss, but the ReDeads from Ocarina of Time? They'd kill me, not because they were bosses or difficult, but because I was too damn scared to do anything to get them off Link (whatever it was they were DOING to Link was something no child my age should have seen).

[Artemis]

...it's not that hard. Far easier than that damn cauldron, now THAT was one bitch of a fight.

Oh yeah. Seriously, f--- that cauldron. And the crazy skeleton on top too.

[TheHands]

I never bothered to get the underwater materia, so the hardest boss of all time for me (as well as my gamer shame) is that I've never beat Emerald Weapon in Final Fantasy VII.

[BardicKnowledge]

I never bothered to get the underwater materia, so the hardest boss of all time for me (as well as my gamer shame) is that I've never beat Emerald Weapon in Final Fantasy VII.

The key to beating Emerald Weapon is setting Lucky 7s before the battle begins. I've never finished Ruby though, and because you can't cheap out on that battle, I think it's harder.

[LuckyXIII]

Holy crap that was like hearing me from 10 years ago. 13 years ago, I guess, to be precise.

All my current psxing... vindicated. Thank you, sir.

Yeah man - my first encounter with Chrono Trigger, when it was originally released, I didn't have the patience to go through it. I reckon it was practice for Final Fantasy 3(6) which, to date, is the only RPG I've ever completed.

Aaaand to stay on-topic...the mounting pressure that comes from being on ball 3, having just exceeded 2,000,000 points in MicroSoft's Space Cadet Pinball.

[Thalzon]

OK, there's a boss fight in Little King's Story that's really pissing me off... Or rather, it's a miniboss, one that is comprised of 3 normal enemies.

It's a chicken... with two hula oniis dancing around it. It's a one-star battle (in other words, supposed to be really easy). But I find it impossible.

Those two hula oniis are invincible until you destroy what they're hula-ing around... In this case, the large chicken. The large chicken attacks periodically by shooting a stream of feathers straight ahead. I currently have 17 units at any given time.

WHY CAN'T I WIN?!

It's virtually impossible to attack the chicken because of those damn hula-oniis, but until I deal with the chicken, those oniis won't stop and will be invincible! They'll trample anyone I send to attack the chicken!

Has anyone figured this out? I'm completely stumped.

[JadeAuto]

Aaaand to stay on-topic...the mounting pressure that comes from being on ball 3, having just exceeded 2,000,000 points in MicroSoft's Space Cadet Pinball.

Heh, pressure at 2mil? Hehehehehahahhaha. I remember one summer I played that constantly. I think I topped out at ~200mil by the end of the summer. It's all in getting free balls and tilting the table without too much tilt.

[The Coop]

Ever heard of Painkiller? Sure you have. You know its fan-made but officially supported sequel-ish Painkiller: Overdose? Perhaps.

The bosses in this game are pretty easy. Their attacks are easy to avoid, and getting them trapped behind scenery so you can keep blasting away at them will little trouble isn't a tough task to accomplish. However, things get rather nasty at the end when you come up against the final boss.

I won't mention its name, as I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't played it. Let's just say it's a familiar face. Anyway, this boss has a few attacks. Homing clouds of smoke-like stuff, fireballs, summoning up big nasty monsters that take a good number of hits to go down... all sorts of fun stuff. During its final phase, it also calls up fire columns that you need to be on the run constantly to avoid. However, when you're supposed to hurt it during that phase is left as a big mystery.

I won't say how you're supposed to hurt it, but I will say I must have lost a ridiculous number of times before it was sheer chance that I found the way to do damage to its final form. I mean, I literally ran out of ammo trying to figure out what to do several times. It was pissing me off to no end. But, I did figure it out, and watching that damn thing meet its end gave me a good sense of satisfaction.

[Schwaltzvald]

Ever heard of Painkiller? Sure you have. You know its fan-made but officially supported sequel-ish Painkiller: Overdose? Perhaps.

I thought I was the only one who played painkiller around here.

Got the "triple dose" pack awhile back.

They BETTER at least consider continuing it due to the ending in BOoH. As throwaway as the plot/storyline can be, it at least gives more of an opportunity to continue the carnage. :lol:

[LuketheXjesse]

MicroSoft's Space Cadet Pinball.

Would any of you believe that Danimal Cannon made the most badass remix of that game's music?

http://dod.vgmix.com/past/apr08/02tie-DanimalCannon-3DPSC-Music-DoD.mp3

Won second place for that month, too.

[Schwaltzvald]

So I've finally finished "Koumajou Densetsu Scarlet Symphony" aka Touhouvania (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDsIB-fDg2g). All I really have to say is that I keep forgetting the different elements that exist within the game, such as grazing projectiles.

"Gungir the Spear" attack kept fucking me up... and my score too...

[Sorekara]

All my favourite/hardest bosses are from the Kingdom Hearts series. Firstly, The Phantom. I still haven't beaten him and I don't know how. Can anyone tell me? Secondly, Xemnas (4th Form). The bit where he surrounds you with all those tiny laser things...if you mess that up, and can't get back into the rhythm, you're screwed. My easiest boss ever was World of Chaos from KH1. That was possibly the easiest final Boss ever.

[Sorekara]

Sephiroth in KH 1 And KH2. Especially KH2 if because I hadn't maxed out High Jump and that Master Form one, so I usually couldn't stop Heartless Angel. Phantom from KH1.

[Algamest]

I watched my brother beat Ruby weapon in FF7, but i have to agree its a pretty impossible boss, never done it meself like, but i have to say, in FF5, i beat Neo Exdeath, Enuo, Omega, Shinryu and Omega MK II, but i could NEVER beat Neo Shinryu, just imposssssssssible lolz, so i would i have to say Neo Shinryu as my hardest boss ever :banghead:

[Sir_Snooze]

And, not a boss, but the ReDeads from Ocarina of Time? They'd kill me, not because they were bosses or difficult, but because I was too damn scared to do anything to get them off Link (whatever it was they were DOING to Link was something no child my age should have seen).

Oh, God yes. Oh my sweet Lord yes. I played the Sun's song and booked it. They still give me the heebie-jeebies. Stupid ReDeads...

My hardest bosses are evolutionary from childhood. Before I figured out Paula's praying deal, I couldn't kill Giygas from EarthBound. Likewise, before I properly understood how djinn work in Golden Sun, I found Doom Dragon really tough. Also, did anyone have trouble with Biohazard from Sonic Adventure 2: Battle? I remember dying so much on that fight. Mike Tyson from Punch Out!! was pretty tough, too, especially when you're 7 or 8 years old. Oh - and Marx's Soul from Super Star Ultra. He himself isn't too tough - it's the tons of shit you have to get through to get to him. Also, anything on F-Zero GX's story mode. Wow...just...wow...

For all time, though, the hardest (and still undefeated) boss for me is Marpercio from Baten Kaitos. I CANNOT kill him. I've seen it done and I can't do it. I don't want to grind, and I'm too lazy to go hunting for rare awesome magnuses that actually do more than bunny farts against him. I've all but given up on Malpercio.

[Gollgagh]

Secondly, Xemnas (4th Form). The bit where he surrounds you with all those tiny laser things...if you mess that up, and can't get back into the rhythm, you're screwed.

you're kidding right

all you have to do is mash on triangle until it clears

there is no rhythm

[Maco70]

I watched my brother beat Ruby weapon in FF7, but i have to agree its a pretty impossible boss, never done it meself like, but i have to say, in FF5, i beat Neo Exdeath, Enuo, Omega, Shinryu and Omega MK II, but i could NEVER beat Neo Shinryu, just imposssssssssible lolz, so i would i have to say Neo Shinryu as my hardest boss ever :banghead:

Just use a dragon lance to make it easier. I did it without, but it is much easier.

Fighting Omega and Shinryu in Dawn of Souls is really hard. I finally beat Omega after my umpteenth try (level 99) and the fight took over an hour. So gratifying. =)

[Gollgagh]

what kind of name is neo shinryu

that's like calling something newnewdragon

[Schwaltzvald]

perhaps it's a case of "lol-squenix"?

[[]Diracy]

Ever heard of Painkiller? Sure you have. You know its fan-made but officially supported sequel-ish Painkiller: Overdose? Perhaps.

The bosses in this game are pretty easy. Their attacks are easy to avoid, and getting them trapped behind scenery so you can keep blasting away at them will little trouble isn't a tough task to accomplish. However, things get rather nasty at the end when you come up against the final boss.

I won't mention its name, as I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't played it. Let's just say it's a familiar face. Anyway, this boss has a few attacks. Homing clouds of smoke-like stuff, fireballs, summoning up big nasty monsters that take a good number of hits to go down... all sorts of fun stuff. During its final phase, it also calls up fire columns that you need to be on the run constantly to avoid. However, when you're supposed to hurt it during that phase is left as a big mystery.

I won't say how you're supposed to hurt it, but I will say I must have lost a ridiculous number of times before it was sheer chance that I found the way to do damage to its final form. I mean, I literally ran out of ammo trying to figure out what to do several times. It was pissing me off to no end. But, I did figure it out, and watching that damn thing meet its end gave me a good sense of satisfaction.

I know exactly what you are talking about and I gave up trying to kill him after 3 hours of running around.:banghead:

At that time I had no internet connection either, so nothing to rely on either!:sad:

[Emperor Charlemagne]

OK, there's a boss fight in Little King's Story that's really pissing me off... Or rather, it's a miniboss, one that is comprised of 3 normal enemies.

It's a chicken... with two hula oniis dancing around it. It's a one-star battle (in other words, supposed to be really easy). But I find it impossible.

Those two hula oniis are invincible until you destroy what they're hula-ing around... In this case, the large chicken. The large chicken attacks periodically by shooting a stream of feathers straight ahead. I currently have 17 units at any given time.

WHY CAN'T I WIN?!

It's virtually impossible to attack the chicken because of those damn hula-oniis, but until I deal with the chicken, those oniis won't stop and will be invincible! They'll trample anyone I send to attack the chicken!

Has anyone figured this out? I'm completely stumped.

If you haven't figured it out, just send in one cook.

One cook.

The chicken will die instantly.

And then, the Onii will die with it.
Easy money.

They gave me trouble too. Never forget to bring a cook into new lands!

The last boss of LKS (a Wii game you should all play because it is funny and amazing and a beautiful game with beautiful music WHY DIDN'T ANYONE PLAY IT) took a solid 3-4 hours trying to beat.
It takes practically 20 minutes to be able to start HURTING the last boss, and then he can wipe out 60% of your army in one attack, if you're too close. If you lose your soldiers, you are dead.
He is a hard fuckin' final King, and the fight with him is extremely and entirely fitting.
LKS ONE OF BEST WII GAMES OF 09


Here's another game I like to talk about with an insanely hard last boss:

Knights in the Nightmare, Melad Margus.
As an added "Ha ha, fuck you", the item that weakens... her? it? is easily missable in the first level of the 30 hour game.
And every boss after the second boss is incredibly difficult, requiring many tries.

Knights in the Nightmare is like FF Tactics meets Touhou, no lie. It's pure bullet hell with certain classes attacking distinctively (My favorite being the Assassins... cuz they were all hot).
Every time you're hit, you lose time from your turn to attack.

The final boss's attacks all fill up nearly the entire screen, pins you down to where you can't move, and sends even MORE shit your way. Turns are usually 60 seconds long uninterrupted (this is a lot of time). The final boss usually ends it in 3 seconds. Oh, and you only have like 15 turns to kill her. Have fun with that one.

Needless to say (actually, I do need to, considering the sales of the game) it was one of the most challenging, engaging, and all-around fun DS games I have played in a long time, and in my eyes, the most original DS game of 09. Great music, great story, great artwork, and the game gets to be beautiful boss fight after beautiful boss fight.
It's still as tough and as frustrating as nails, though. Nails being shot into you, that is.


Every extra boss in FF5 was a ballin motherfucker... I beat them all, and yeah, you use a myriad of techniques against NewNewDragon just to keep you ALIVE TO attack... and they usually fail... Or how about the room FULL of Omegas? Not fun. Hard sons of bitches, definitely. Hard hard HARD sons of bitches.
Though FF5 is the only FF outside of 1 (which is just always fun) that I've beaten more than once.

[Kureejii Lea]

So, for the whole seventeen people who played Baten Kaitos Origins... anyone remember the Holoholo Bird?

Now, the boss in and of itself isn't really all that horrible, though it's got its share of annoying abilities. It goes into battle with two chicks; each chick has a five-hit peck attack that it can use multiple times in a row (so those five hits can easily turn into ten or fifteen) and if you manage to kill one off, the Holoholo Bird can simply hatch a new one. Aside from its usual set of attacks, the bird has a move that can give the entire party the "knocked down" status, which delays your turn and can ruin any giant combos you've set up (and in BKO, setting up a massively-chained party-wide combo is incredibly satisfying, so it's all the more infuriating if it gets interrupted). On top of this, the bird and chicks have different elemental weaknesses.

However, this is all manageable except for one thing; this boss fight occurs immediately after the disc change, at which point you're prompted to save the game. Hell, you have no reason to even expect a boss fight; the disc change happens en route to a new town. You have no opportunity to get new equipment or, more importantly, build up your levels if you find yourself overwhelmed.

Me? Yeah, I was extremely underleveled, but I hadn't really had much trouble up until this point, so I'd never given it a second thought. After who knows how many attempts over the course of three days, I finally beat the thing... and the battle had taken forty-five minutes.

[Maco70]

Or how about the room FULL of Omegas? Not fun. Hard sons of bitches, definitely. Hard hard HARD sons of bitches.


I hate to brag, but I beat the entire room of omegas in one shot (without saving). Challenged myself. Also did a no heal run through the cloister of the dead.

It was at that time that I realized I needed to buy a new game...

I don't regard any RPG boss as hardest boss of all time since it's only a matter of the right level or the right attacks. Emerald weapon in FF7 seems impossible at first, but quickly seems plausible once you level up everything. Sephiroth in Kingdom hearts (1 and 2) is difficult but becomes significantly easier with a higher level, but remains a hard boss because it is frantic and depends upon your ability to react. Not to say that Sephiroth is the all time hardest boss, but it was quite a challenge.

The honest to god hardest time I ever had with a boss was Galamoth from Castlevania Symphony of the night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq2r_-LMZGc

The first play through (I couldn't have even been 14) I didn't know about the lightning resist armor, or special secret weapons. This boss kicked my ass so many times I thought I was doing something wrong. I have no idea how long it took me, but I finally did it and it was gratifying to a point, but made the rest of the game seem ridiculously easy. This guy is much harder than the final boss in my opinion.

EDIT: ArekTheAbsolute showing how it's done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n0YYol72G0

[Dr.Flintlock]

Ahh, more LKS love. Good to hear. One of the more underappreciated titles on the Wii. I have to say I found most of the bosses in that game to be pretty difficult. I mean, one of them was a sort of unorthodox pinball game, only you're using your units as the flippers and the boss is the ball. Pretty frustarating.

For a more obscure difficult boss, I'd like to bring up a little gem called Brave Fencer Musashi for the PS1, one of my all time favorites. However, the Queen Ant boss is seriously one of-if not THE-most fucked up boss fights in the entire game. If you don't have a steady supply of EX drinks, prepare to suffer through a world of hurt.

You go through a frustaratingly jarring mine cart ride and your reward is one of the hardest bosses in the game. Classic.

'Course that was back when Square actually cared about franchises besides Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. Not bitter, Not bitter.

[Sir_Snooze]

So, for the whole seventeen people who played Baten Kaitos Origins... anyone remember the Holoholo Bird?

Now, the boss in and of itself isn't really all that horrible, though it's got its share of annoying abilities. It goes into battle with two chicks; each chick has a five-hit peck attack that it can use multiple times in a row (so those five hits can easily turn into ten or fifteen) and if you manage to kill one off, the Holoholo Bird can simply hatch a new one. Aside from its usual set of attacks, the bird has a move that can give the entire party the "knocked down" status, which delays your turn and can ruin any giant combos you've set up (and in BKO, setting up a massively-chained party-wide combo is incredibly satisfying, so it's all the more infuriating if it gets interrupted). On top of this, the bird and chicks have different elemental weaknesses.

However, this is all manageable except for one thing; this boss fight occurs immediately after the disc change, at which point you're prompted to save the game. Hell, you have no reason to even expect a boss fight; the disc change happens en route to a new town. You have no opportunity to get new equipment or, more importantly, build up your levels if you find yourself overwhelmed.

Me? Yeah, I was extremely underleveled, but I hadn't really had much trouble up until this point, so I'd never given it a second thought. After who knows how many attempts over the course of three days, I finally beat the thing... and the battle had taken forty-five minutes.

They do that in the original, too! Remember the Ayme, Folon & Giacomo fight on the Goldoba? You're told to flee Alfard as fast as you can - your natural instinct is to boot it onto the ship. Once on the Goldoba:

1) The standard enemies are toughish
2) There's no shop for healing yourself in between battles; and
3) You can't level up.

You're stuck at whatever level you happen to be. And, since this is an asininely hard fight even at the right level (rec. 28 or so - you're probably at 23), the fight is retardohard. Folon's Worg Laser does about 500 by itself (you have about 1600 health), and they all go at once, doing about 600-800 damage if your shields suck. I was lucky enough to make two save files - since then, I always do. Still...oh, and the same fight in the Celestial Alps - they come back from the dead to fight again.You don't heal - they do.

That Holoholo fight was a bitch, though. I was warned, so I made two saves, but...bad game design, anyone? Geez...those are fights that are hard simply because of circumstance, as opposed to actual gameplay. Annoying, to say the least.

Another one - outside of the super-lame Peach Turtle method, can anyone beat Culex from SMRPG? I always have to resort to Peach Turtle (Lazy Shell on Peach - let Culex and his 4 elemental stones run out of mana while Peach heals herself constantly, then revive fallen team-mates and kill everything, which now can't attack because it has no Flower Points).

[Algamest]

what kind of name is neo shinryu

that's like calling something newnewdragon


I think in FF5 'Neo' is a term to describe anything that has come out of the void, there's Neo Exdeath, Neo Garula and Neo Shinryu, all just pallete swaps lol, which as we know instantly makes a boss ten times harder.

You know your gonna lose when the enemy is a pallete swap! :-o

[Ray Falling]

Hmm, I love Baten Kaitos :D

I've made a post in this thread before, I assume, but I'm going to go with this one for now:

Shin Akuma on Street Fighter Alpha 2 (SNES)

0_0; For the life of me I've never beat him. (I would have if I had set maximum rounds to 3 as opposed to 5 u_u)

He's just super cheap and super cheat, because he can do everything the game won't ever allow you to, AND on top of that deal way more damage than he is supposed to do.

My only means of getting close to beating him involve Ken, and doing a crouch kick to trick the enemy into jumping after which I uppercut his sorry face. But even that strategy will fail if he manages to get some hits in u_u;

The absolute worst was when I was literaly one stripe of health away from pwning him and I couldn't turn around to do my thing ;_; He then smacked me in the back with his regular punch that now of course deals massive damage x_x "Ow my back!"

I'll get you one day!!!

[danileigh79]

That Sephiroth is still the hardest boss.....

[Thalzon]

Another one - outside of the super-lame Peach Turtle method, can anyone beat Culex from SMRPG? I always have to resort to Peach Turtle (Lazy Shell on Peach - let Culex and his 4 elemental stones run out of mana while Peach heals herself constantly, then revive fallen team-mates and kill everything, which now can't attack because it has no Flower Points).

Well... yeah. Safety Ring will protect anyone from a buttload of the enemy spells. I never really wait for Culex and company to run out of FP, though. Being around level 24 helps, too. Then it's just a matter of using single-target skills and nailing all your timed hits.

Not that beating Culex really gets you anything valuable.

[Emperor Charlemagne]

Culex is tough, but not that tough.

I never used the lazy shell on him, because I never found the lazy shell until the advent of the internet.

I just had my party a high enough level (mid-20s, about), and then took out the Green Crystal (since its status effect attacks will destroy you if left unchecked), and then just focused on having Peach heal constantly with the Bowser and Mario (or Geno and Mario for Geno's Boost, which is quite indispensible in some cases) taking out the crystals before going on to Culex himself. Using one or two Rock Candies to even out the field helps too.

It's really not all that difficult, though as a kid, I couldn't believe bosses could be that hard.

[Thin Crust]

Ruby weapon fool-proof strategy

Start with 2 characters dead so Ruby's hands will go into the ground. Then cast Phenix to rise your dead party members.

W-summon Knights of the round and Hades

Hades will cause Stop.

Cast mime and repeat.

It helps if you have 2 mimes. And if you run out of mp, that hp/mp switch materia can help you there, giving you thousands of mp.

[Sir_Snooze]

Well... yeah. Safety Ring will protect anyone from a buttload of the enemy spells. I never really wait for Culex and company to run out of FP, though. Being around level 24 helps, too. Then it's just a matter of using single-target skills and nailing all your timed hits.

Not that beating Culex really gets you anything valuable.

Culex is tough, but not that tough.

I never used the lazy shell on him, because I never found the lazy shell until the advent of the internet.


Opposite for me - I didn't know the Safety Ring, but I knew of both Lazy Shells. The leveling thing is pretty critical. On second thought, it's not too bad - still tough, though, relatively speaking.

I don't know if this counts as a boss fight, but Genis runs in the Coliseum are wicked tough. I just finished it tonight, and my characters are pretty decent level.

[K.B.]

I'd just like to apologize for my earlier post.

Metroid Prime? Seriously? Entire game was a breeze on hard. WTF me, wtf.


Someone summarize this thread for me right-quick. Just read through the 3000+ posts and determine the hardest boss. No big thing.

[Sir_Snooze]

I'd just like to apologize for my earlier post.

Metroid Prime? Seriously? Entire game was a breeze on hard. WTF me, wtf.


Someone summarize this thread for me right-quick. Just read through the 3000+ posts and determine the hardest boss. No big thing.

Life is the hardest boss, man. No matter how many potions you drink, you'll still get owned by it.

That's my take.

[The Biznut]

I followed this thread a bunch a few months ago, and I remember the side scrolling shmups being the talk of the time. Which is not surprising as some of them seem far beyond even remotely possible by level 2...

You would probably find your winner, or at least a host of serious contenders in that genre.

[Schwaltzvald]

I followed this thread a bunch a few months ago, and I remember the side scrolling shmups being the talk of the time. Which is not surprising as some of them seem far beyond even remotely possible by level 2...

You would probably find your winner, or at least a host of serious contenders in that genre.

You wouldn't want me to get started on that. I may have beaten all of them but still the struggle to pass them, especially on the highest difficulty settings, is something one can only understand the feeling by actually achieving success.

[The Biznut]

You wouldn't want me to get started on that. I may have beaten all of them but still the struggle to pass them, especially on the highest difficulty settings, is something one can only understand the feeling by actually achieving success.

You know I kind of want to get you started on this ;-)

These games are a great challenge, but when it gets to the point of total audacity, I just get floored by how hard it gets, laugh about it for a bit and then stop. Which ones have you beaten, and which one did you find the most challenging to beat? (and derive the most satisfaction from beating?)

[Schwaltzvald]

You know I kind of want to get you started on this ;-)

These games are a great challenge, but when it gets to the point of total audacity, I just get floored by how hard it gets, laugh about it for a bit and then stop. Which ones have you beaten, and which one did you find the most challenging to beat? (and derive the most satisfaction from beating?)

You're more than welcome to give a try at one of the earliest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJ8g4TY_iY) of the windows side games; even rock out to some CROWSCLAW while you're at it. Then, when Spring comes around especially (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B705uKsYzsU), you can always give the next entry a try. I'd recommend doing so on a laptop in Wash. DC during the "special festival" for added effect.

Heck sometimes even during the full moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nb5Ohbt1Sg), I would take a crack at it, even with some vodka for an extra challenge of the guts so to speak. I'd recommend taking some snapshots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw2u0PEwgQ0) during such special events like Haley's Comet that comes one in a life time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEsz33xrPEk) but do remember to at least pause the game for those moments. While in a large city, why not pay your respects to some churches or temples (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N4c7qFeJR4), even if you're no follower of a particular faith it wouldn't hurt you to observe while you're there.

Maybe later you could consider some spelunking like some of the locals that do around here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5q29sEb2w). If not you can always join those that observe the night sky for some rare sightings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrgdGe41iAg).

Maybe weird to be trying them while doing all of those things but why the fuck not? :wink:

Oh I just realized I didn't answer your questions properly

Beaten = all
Most difficulty but fun for me = here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5eupXPNryE)

[The Biznut]

Schwaltzvald.

Best reply of the month.

[Jack Polo]

Hardest boss ever?

Definitely Bowser in the first Super Mario Bros... ESPECIALLY if you have a Fire Flower! OMG... soooo impossible.



(P.S. kinda joking)

[Schwaltzvald]

Schwaltzvald.

Best reply of the month.

Oh please I'm sure others will think of something more awesome. :lol:

I didn't even sneak in an image this time.

[Dr.Flintlock]

Most shoot 'em up bosses (especially of the bullet hell variety) really do deserve a class all of their own, in some regards. I own several of the earlier Touhou games and still can't manage to finish most of them on normal (except Imperishable Night, although I think its some unanimous choice that this one is the easiest of the series supposedly). Then there's 2 whole difficulty modes after that.....which terrifies me utterly. In th end though, I keep coming back for more, no matter how many times my hitbox is spell-card raped.

Generally though, when friends of mine explain how they like to play difficult games like Call of Duty on Veteran because they like the sense of success after doing such a thing, I have to agree with Schwaltzvald. There really is nothing quite like achieving success in completing a shoot 'em up title.

Also on topic, I still can't complete the boss of the extra stage of Perfect Cherry Blossom...

[The Biznut]

Let me restate.

Best reply to anything I have posted so far this month.

Though the next post might change everything...

[Emperor Charlemagne]

Like I said a few posts above, Knights in the Nightmare is bullet-hell meets FFTactics (though it can't obviously be as rigorous as Touhou and the like).
Though it's hard to figure out what's going on, you can get the jist of it in this boss fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8glyhrnIYA
Skip the first 30 seconds or so

Suffice to say, you're that little ball of light, and on top of ordering your units to attack, you have to dodge everything the boss throws at you, which gets ridiculously extravagant.


Though of course this vid is played by somewhat of a 'pro'; it's incredibly difficult.
Extremely satisfying though. EXTREMELY satisfying for the 'hardcore' gamer in all of us.

[Schwaltzvald]

I will say I am somewhat disappointed in myself on that post I made last page as I neglected to even say a thing about the bullet-hell based fighting games. :lol:

[Dr.Flintlock]

I've actually been on a Ys high tonight so I'ma gonna post what I consider to be one of the most hectic and difficult bosses in the series, this little one being Ys Origins which came out a few years back. I remember when I took this bad boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs4YnGTTDRs) on, I had goosebumps, and I died quite a bit until I could figure out how to dodge all of his attacks. In some regards, the fights in this game are similar to a bullet hell title.

In conclusion, The black pearl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IWQo0q9BUU&feature=related) is serious business.

[Jay Cee]

One of the hardest bosses I remembering encountering was this big zombie from a game I used to have on an old computer called Dangerous Dave In The Haunted Mansion.
He would stride back and forth across the screen, shooting fireballs all over the place, there were two (I think) platforms you could jump onto to avoid getting hit by him (instant death if he touched you) but you still had to avoid the fireballs (instant death if they touched you). Dave only had a shotgun that you had to stand still and wait for him to reload after six blasts and this boss took A LOT of shooting. I used to wonder if I was doing something wrong, because he just wouldn't die, the only indication I was hurting him was that he lit up every time you shot him.
I finally dispatched him in the end, only to be greeted with a horrible dungeon stage with a werewolf running around inside that took several shots (I never found out how many) to kill, he moved at 4 times the speed of Dave, and if he touched you - instant death!

[Jay Cee]

This is it:
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/959071777-00.gif

http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1211425035-00.png

Okay, so there were more than two platforms, but you have to jump up the lower ones to get to the only two that he won't catch you on.
Looking at him, even now, sends a shiver up my spine.
Apparently this game is available for mobile phones now.

[The Biznut]

This is it:
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/959071777-00.gif

http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1211425035-00.png



pics are protected, no direct linking I guess. In otherwords, they don't work.

[Jay Cee]

If there's a god, he hates me.

[Maco70]

pics are protected, no direct linking I guess. In otherwords, they don't work.

Pretty sure they need to be jpgs.

EDIT: (After clicking links). Nope, I'm retarded.

[Kinslayer]

Hmm, for me, I would say that the hardest bosses would have to be:

Luca Blight from Suikoden II, he can just be a total ass
The Beast Rune from Suikoden II, 5 bosses in one, mothafucka!
The Queen Metroid in Metroid II: Return of Samus, how many missiles does it take to kill the bitch!
The Tyrannosaur from Chrono Trigger, I mean come on, the boss makes you lose health almost the entire time, and both times too!
Xain from Legend of Legaia, he's a total ass and his Terio Punch kills me almost every time
The Delilas Family from Legend of Legaia, it's like fighting yourself!
Songi from Legend of Legaia, he just takes freakin' forever to kill!
Sigma from Megaman X3, that battle body's just evil

That's all I can think of for now...if my brain starts working properly again, I'll probably post more.

[Dhsu]

So I know this thread's been around for a while, but I didn't realize just HOW long until I checked just now.

The Coop posted this topic in 2002. Guys, we're posting in a nearly 8-year-old thread.

Epic.

[Schwaltzvald]

The Coop posted this topic in 2002. Guys, we're posting in a nearly 8-year-old thread.

Epic.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7291/1257678579950.jpg

[The Coop]

So I know this thread's been around for a while, but I didn't realize just HOW long until I checked just now.

The Coop posted this topic in 2002. Guys, we're posting in a nearly 8-year-old thread.

Epic.

It's my baby, and the second thread I ever made here :-D

[Blue Magic]

After 10,000+ posts, you still remember something like that?

[The Author]

My first logged in post is in this thread.

Before that it was all guest posting baby.

[Sir_Snooze]

If this counts, everything in I Wanna Be the Guy. Play it for about 5 seconds and you'll understand EXACTLY what I mean. Especially The Guy. Holy Hannah...

[Ajax]

I love this thread. One of my earliest posts dates back to 2003, and that was on page 113. Unless I'm mistaken, this is the oldest surviving thread on OCR.
...
The super-secret end boss of Cave Story was unbelievably hard, both to fight, and to get to. Not so hard anymore now that I have beat the game multiple times, but still quite difficult.

[KYOOBIKLEEZ]

The hardest boss I've ever faced has to be Zinaida (final form) from Armored Core: Last Raven. Holy shit that bish was tough. I found this in an FAQ for the game:

*WARNING: THE FOLLOWING MISSION MAY FRUSTRATE YOU TO THE POINT YOU MIGHT BE
TEMPTED TO DESTROY YOUR CONTROLLER. FEELINGS OF THIS MISSION BEING IMPOSSIBLE
TO BEAT ARE COMMON HERE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.*


So true...

[duskvstweak]

I am somewhat ashamed to say it; but Bowser and his dumb castle in world 8.
Also, freaking Metal Gear in "Metal Gear Solid".

[AJ-enova]

I am somewhat ashamed to say it; but Bowser and his dumb castle in world 8.
Also, freaking Metal Gear in "Metal Gear Solid".

Oh No! Metal Gear Rex was well easy (as long as you had Full Rations and some Chaff Grenades)

In the 1st fight throw Chaff grenades - he cant do shit - and jsut keep hitting him with the stinger

In the 2nd fight just keep firing!

Always works for me! :)

[Ferret]

I wonder how long it is before we start listing bosses we've had as employees.

[Zipp]

Dracula in Castlevania 3. Holy fucking shit.

[Emperor Charlemagne]

Dracula in Castlevania 3. Holy fucking shit.

Tell me about it.

Don't even bother with the whip for any of Drac's forms but the first. The rest, just USE THE AX AND NOTHING ELSE.
It's the only way to stay safe, and your partners are about as useful as dick in this fight.


But oh man, it is oh-so-satisfying to finally take down Dracula.


The hallway leading up to Death in CV1 is just fucking merciless and annoying, coupled with an annoyingly difficult Death battle. The worst was killing him, and THEN having a flying scythe kill you.

[LuketheXjesse]

Double Dragon III is not only one of the hardest games ever conceived - its final boss is a nightmare and nearly impossible to beat.

The Arcade version of the final boss may very well be the hardest boss ever.

See (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmSpoYdm38) for yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEEgchywXGw).

[Blue Magic]

Legend of Legaia:

He is not really a boss, but the monk that lives in Rim Elm. You can fight against him, but he is impossible for me to beat. Ever since I got the game, I have been trying to beat that one guy, but no matter how high my level is, he still beats the shit out of me in about three turns.

What do I need to do to beat him?

[The Pezman]

In my experience, there are two distinct ways a boss may be difficult.

One is that it has a set of moves which are difficult to counter or dodge, but can be. It may have high HP or a small attack window, but these bosses are difficult in a fun way. They provide a tangible challenge but it's clear that they can be beaten with enough work and persistence.

And then there are stupid bosses with unpredictable moves that can't be read or countered. The boss isn't really hard, he can just do a bunch of ridiculous things which put you in a bad place very quickly.

Guess which one inspired me to make this entry?

The final boss of No Mores Heroes 2 has more cheap tricks than a prostitute. Let's go through them.

For starters, he can instant kill you (by punching you out a window) if he hits you in the wrong part of the room relative to him. Boom. All of a sudden you've got to maneuver and keep yourself out of that line of sight. May be easy enough on its own, sure, but let's continue.

About a third of the way through the battle, he starts up a teleportation attack. Okay, we've seen these before. Probably not so difficult to counter. But just you wait. He can teleport right behind you at any time and smack you. What does he do then? Teleport again and smack you again. And a third time for good measure. Oh, and he can do this three-teleportation attack three or even four times in a row. It cannot be reliably dodged or blocked because you can't see where he is in time.

The interesting thing is that none of his attacks, individually, take off that much damage. It's almost like a taunt. "I dare you to beat me with more than half your health remaining." Given this, it still sounds plausible I can do it. I'm a patient guy, and I know his strategy for the most part. Even if he can sucker punch me at will and I dodge roll like crazy in the hopes of avoiding it, I'll just keep doing it til I knock him down enough. Of course, when he keeps teleporting around that becomes ass-kickingly hard to do.

And the coup de grace. In the last third of the fight, he gets a new teleportation attack. "What could possibly be worse than getting sucker punched up to twelve consecutive times?", you ask?

How about Tornado punched? Same attack, but now he tosses you across the room with the power of wind each time. And that can come before, after, or sandwiched between regular teleportation attacks.

Picture this. You've persevered against the guy for a good while. You're about 2/3 down after using the health refill, but he's down for the count as well. Just maybe 10 or 12 more good hits...

He comes at you with the teleportation. SHITSHITSHIT... wait! I dodged it! I'm dodging! Let me roll away... crap he tornado punched me! But where did I end up... fuck.

Out the window.

I haven't beaten him yet. Other bosses in this game prove Suda 51 knows how to make a great boss fight. One that's unique, challenging, and lets you have a fighting chance and not getting half your health knocked off by a random combination of attacks he may or may not perform. Considering the bosses are the focus of the game, I'm pretty pissed off they decided to end the game with such a lousy one. He's not hard. I faced previous bosses much harder. But it's completely up to chance (if he doesn't do certain moves or I'm lucky enough to dodge them) as to whether I can beat him. Ever.

[Kinslayer]

Legend of Legaia:

He is not really a boss, but the monk that lives in Rim Elm. You can fight against him, but he is impossible for me to beat. Ever since I got the game, I have been trying to beat that one guy, but no matter how high my level is, he still beats the shit out of me in about three turns.

What do I need to do to beat him?

To beat Tetsu, you need to be REALLY high level, and it's also suggested that you get the ability to summon the Ra-Seru, go collect the eggs while levelling up, and if you meet certain requirements, you can get Meta in Rim Elm, Terra at Mt. Rikuroa, and Ozma in East Voz Forest...(these are spells, not the actual Ra-Seru again) and the eggs also contain Ra-Seru spells for the other 4 elements.

And speaking of Legend of Legaia, I have a few more bosses to add:
Juggernaut: Because his Stone Circle move is unpredictable, he can really wear you down fast
Van Saryu of Ratayu, I totally forgot how much of an ass he is...
Gaza of Sol The Astral Slash looks so cool, but god it can damn near kill a character
Sim-Seru Gaza--not only is there the Neo Star Slash, but the Astral Wave can almost wipe out the entire party, and again, like Juggernaut, it's unpredictable.

As a Kid I used to think these bosses were hard...now they're child's play...
Pinstripe Potoro and N. Brio from Crash Bandicoot
Tiny and N. Gin from Crash Bandicoot 2
Neo Cortex from Crash Bandicoot Warped...

[Cecilff2]

In my experience, there are two distinct ways a boss may be difficult.

One is that it has a set of moves which are difficult to counter or dodge, but can be. It may have high HP or a small attack window, but these bosses are difficult in a fun way. They provide a tangible challenge but it's clear that they can be beaten with enough work and persistence.

And then there are stupid bosses with unpredictable moves that can't be read or countered. The boss isn't really hard, he can just do a bunch of ridiculous things which put you in a bad place very quickly.

Guess which one inspired me to make this entry?

The final boss of No Mores Heroes 2 has more cheap tricks than a prostitute. Let's go through them.

For starters, he can instant kill you (by punching you out a window) if he hits you in the wrong part of the room relative to him. Boom. All of a sudden you've got to maneuver and keep yourself out of that line of sight. May be easy enough on its own, sure, but let's continue.

About a third of the way through the battle, he starts up a teleportation attack. Okay, we've seen these before. Probably not so difficult to counter. But just you wait. He can teleport right behind you at any time and smack you. What does he do then? Teleport again and smack you again. And a third time for good measure. Oh, and he can do this three-teleportation attack three or even four times in a row. It cannot be reliably dodged or blocked because you can't see where he is in time.

The interesting thing is that none of his attacks, individually, take off that much damage. It's almost like a taunt. "I dare you to beat me with more than half your health remaining." Given this, it still sounds plausible I can do it. I'm a patient guy, and I know his strategy for the most part. Even if he can sucker punch me at will and I dodge roll like crazy in the hopes of avoiding it, I'll just keep doing it til I knock him down enough. Of course, when he keeps teleporting around that becomes ass-kickingly hard to do.

And the coup de grace. In the last third of the fight, he gets a new teleportation attack. "What could possibly be worse than getting sucker punched up to twelve consecutive times?", you ask?

How about Tornado punched? Same attack, but now he tosses you across the room with the power of wind each time. And that can come before, after, or sandwiched between regular teleportation attacks.

Picture this. You've persevered against the guy for a good while. You're about 2/3 down after using the health refill, but he's down for the count as well. Just maybe 10 or 12 more good hits...

He comes at you with the teleportation. SHITSHITSHIT... wait! I dodged it! I'm dodging! Let me roll away... crap he tornado punched me! But where did I end up... fuck.

Out the window.

I haven't beaten him yet. Other bosses in this game prove Suda 51 knows how to make a great boss fight. One that's unique, challenging, and lets you have a fighting chance and not getting half your health knocked off by a random combination of attacks he may or may not perform. Considering the bosses are the focus of the game, I'm pretty pissed off they decided to end the game with such a lousy one. He's not hard. I faced previous bosses much harder. But it's completely up to chance (if he doesn't do certain moves or I'm lucky enough to dodge them) as to whether I can beat him. Ever.

Beat him my first try. The second form didn't give me too much trouble. The teleportation is a pain, though. The worst part was figuring out how to defeat the first form.(I was trying to knock it out of the window each time when it was stunned and happened to get the blade clash by accidentally moving my remote fast enough for a slash). After watching a recorded video of him using the crappy teleport moves constantly though, I'd say I was probably lucky.

When it comes to final battles, Jeane and Henry blow this guy out of the water.

[The Pezman]

Beat him my first try. The second form didn't give me too much trouble. The teleportation is a pain, though. The worst part was figuring out how to defeat the first form.(I was trying to knock it out of the window each time when it was stunned and happened to get the blade clash by accidentally moving my remote fast enough for a slash).
Yeah, I had to use a strategy guide for that.
After watching a recorded video of him using the crappy teleport moves constantly though, I'd say I was probably lucky.
I've since beaten him, but only because I also got lucky. So yes. Yes you were. And that was my point: luck should not be a decisive factor in a fight outcome.
When it comes to final battles, Jeane and Henry blow this guy out of the water.
The whole ending of NMH2 from that boss onwards was just crap. I feel like they just wanted to finish the game at that point.

Now Ryugi, THERE was a boss.

[Crulex]

As far as the hardest boss goes, I'd give it to Proto-Babil in FFIV DS, simply because that is the only boss I still haven't beaten yet. Damn Divine Judgement.

[Cecilff2]

Now Ryugi, THERE was a boss.

I'm playing through on bitter. Boy was he ever. The only one to kill me so far on this playthrough.(Alice came close too, though) I'm not looking forward to Batt.

I've died more at Ryuji's bike battle than all other parts of the game combined.

[mastersam]

For me, it depends on what game we're talking about, sort of, because it all constitutes a different kind of hard. For example, when I played Soul Calibur III, I was stupid enough to try and fight Night Terror at the highest difficulty. He's already a cheap fighter, having retarded amounts of range, power and speed, but upping the AI was nuts. Even on easy, I've had times where he's pulled a fast one and I lost.

As for RPG bosses... Dr. Lugae on FFIV DS. I can never manage to act in time with that stupid Reversal Gas, and I always end up hurting someone when I'm trying to heal them. I had no problem fighting him on ANY other system but this one, even when it wasn't dumbed down. IRRITATING as all Hell.

[Neblix]

The first eggman boss in Sonic 1.

I can never seem to get him. :/ I'm sure many others have this problem.

But seriously,

in my experience it had to be...

The Emerald or Ruby Weapon in FFVII.

[Hy Bound]

I was going to say the emerald or ruby WEAPON too, but both of those have a trick to beating them. Otherwise, I'd say any an doll of the bosses in Ninja Gaiden. I know these have probably been mentioned already, but dear poo thats a hard game.

[Gario]

Always thought the Omega Weapon boss from FF8 was tough, too... Then again, that's in a very unfair sort of way. 12,000 to your entire group?

Cheapshot, anyone?

[BardicKnowledge]

The bonus bosses from Ninja Gaiden Black's Mission mode are certainly candidates. Especially when you have to fight more than one of them at once... :(

[Kai's Bloodfang]

Ninja.
Gaiden.

enough said.

[Schwaltzvald]

Ninja.
Gaiden.

enough said.

NES versions or the recent ones..?

Currently trying to do a no death/no bomb/all-spellcard-capture run on Subterranean Animism's Extra Stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIM50avTrfw). The stage's not so much an issue as Koishi is...

As well as that god damn cat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epKT3XdiOK4) screwing me over on such a run as well...

[Kai's Bloodfang]

NES versions or the recent ones..?


The recents.
I hate the bosses so much :|

[Schwaltzvald]

The recents.
I hate the bosses so much :|

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1627/1257630566934.jpg

Like most bosses you'll overcome them soon enough.

[Kai's Bloodfang]

especially Alva...if that's her name
HATED her

But I got used to them :D

-except this one in NG2...thevolcanobearcowthing :|

[The Coop]

I'm giving my old thread a little bump. I was browsing through YouTube when I stumbled upon this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ


I love shmups. They're by far my favorite genre. But uh... fuck that. Bullet patterns are fun, and manic shmups and even some bullet curtain ones are enjoyable. But this is just nuts :lol:

And just to make everyone feel like shit, here's someone getting through that form of the boss without dying (they died twice on the last form though)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70iFdnI-xfA

[Mirby]

Coop... how many bumps have you given this thread? I mean, it's 8 years old. There must be quite a few in here.

Also, holy crap that is one sadistic boss... :D

[Schwaltzvald]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70iFdnI-xfA

I thought I posted them a while back.

Nonetheless yeah even I wouldn't touch that again...

Oh hey it's available on the 360, didn't know that. 8-O

[The Coop]

A long overdue bump.

After finding a nifty little clearance sale at a local Target, I picked up a copy of Wolfenstein for the PC. I know, the game got mixed reviews, but for $4.95, and being a fan of the previous games, I couldn't pass it up.

So I'm playing through and get to the end. What do I find? A familiar face from RtCW, and a big mother fucker all decked out in some serious hardware... and he wants to play.

The first phase of the battle involves getting through his shields and doing enough damage to him. As you do this, there are large rotating pillars that are your only cover from his gunfire, and of course, are the only sources to recharge your medallion from. Add to this that he blows some of them up, reducing your amount of cover, and yeah, there's a lot of running, hiding (or at least trying to) and firing.

After what seemed like a stupid amount of damage, and a pretty cool explosion, you enter phase two. With what you were standing on in tatters, it becomes a game of hide of seek. The boss is able to time shift and run quickly all over the place, resulting in only brief moments of being able to hurt him. And when you hurt him enough, he leaps into the air and begins raining little rockets down on you. When you finally get him hurt enough, the third phase begins.

Once you fall a long way to a small encampment, you have to run up a long path. All the while, the boss continually fires rockets at you from above as those freakish little experiments that run on all fours come at you. When (if?) you make it to the top, you finally get a little break with another game of hide and seek that's a little easier than the first one.

Perhaps I just had the wrong weapon upgrades, perhaps I just suck. Either way, that was a long, tough battle with a lot of deaths and restarts.

[DMaster]

Anyone mention the one from Final Fantasy (I can't remember which one) that has 50,000,000 HP yet?

[Kenogu Labz]

Anyone mention the one from Final Fantasy (I can't remember which one) that has 50,000,000 HP yet?

Yiazmat from FF XII? From what I've heard, he's actually not necessarily all that difficult; it just takes a looooooooooong time.

[BardicKnowledge]

Yiazmat from FF XII? From what I've heard, he's actually not necessarily all that difficult; it just takes a looooooooooong time.

Everything in FFXII is auto-pilot if you prepare correctly.

[Kenogu Labz]

Please, let's not get into the gambit/gambitless argument. The game's more fun if you use gambits sparingly, anyway. Assuming you didn't use gambits, you're in for a long session of monitoring, marked by some points of furious scrambling to juggle healing between current and backup parties.

[Iggy Koopa]

Probably some boss composed of aggregated diamond nanorods would be the definitive "hardest boss".

[BeaTStrykerRX]

lol hardest boss? id say, ATM, the wingly magician Faust from legend of dragoon. not only is his magic supreme, he gets like 3-4 turns in a row sometimes.....unbelievable

[Emperor Charlemagne]

Cloud of Darkness in FFIII can be one heck of a tough boss.

But that's mainly due to cheapness for the most part.

I've already made my posts about difficult bosses earlier and still generally stand by them, but I've been playing more games so:

-Phantom from Mega Man Zero.
No elemental weakness, attacks frequently with lots of damage, and it's MMZ1- it's not like you have any good fucking equipment to actually stand up to his attacks at this point. Or any point.

The bosses of Neo Arcadia (outside of pussy X both forms) are pretty tough too.

And I will admit I could never beat Piastol after a certain point in Skies of Arcadia Legends.

As well as just about every fucking extra boss. Fuck the IxaTaka Sisters.

[Jonnas]

And I will admit I could never beat Piastol after a certain point in Skies of Arcadia Legends.

As well as just about every fucking extra boss. Fuck the IxaTaka Sisters.

Did you try facing Daikokuya the Wealthy? The sisters should cower before him.

Off the top of my head, more hard bosses that I remember...

-That pair of Frankestein Monsters in Castlevania: PoR. Outlasting the timer is not a victory, as far as I'm concerned. Which means I still haven't beaten those bastards;

-Beating the A-Path's final boss in Valkyrie Profile: CoP can be easy once you get a New Game+. Beating it without a NG+ takes much, much more skill.
(It's cool that the "Good Ending" is the hardest thing to obtain, though. It fits with the theme of the game);

-Fefnir is the hardest boss in MM Zero, for me. Predictable, but so hard to dodge;

-Jumpin' Jack Flash and The Anthem are the hardest songs in Elite Beat Agents. Considering we're facing Aliens and a Golem, they count, right?

[Emperor Charlemagne]

I tried facing every single extra bounty boss in the game but I couldn't fucking beat ANY of them outside of Piastol a couple of times. Maybe it was my inexperience with that particular RPG or something, though. One of these days I'll have to see where I stand now.

[Jonnas]

I tried facing every single extra bounty boss in the game but I couldn't fucking beat ANY of them outside of Piastol a couple of times. Maybe it was my inexperience with that particular RPG or something, though. One of these days I'll have to see where I stand now.

The thing is, your characters have incredibly cheap moves and the game expects you to use them against the bounties, which are some the hardest fights in the game. They even level up along with you, so grinding doesn't work.

But Daikokuya takes the cake. He's fast, has competent bodyguards (that he can revive) and a move that nearly kills your party and confuses the survivors. I hate that bastard.
Not that Piastol was easy, either.

[The Coop]

Not so much a bump, as it is a rear end collision. But...


Not too long ago, I "found" a copy of Broken Thunder, the horrendous Thunder Force spiritual sequel. I was excited, as I knew the history of this ill-fated game, knew how fast it was panned and yanked off of store shelves in Japan, and knew it vanished into obscurity. But nonetheless, I found it, and played it.

The first four stages are unimaginably easy. The bosses are ridiculously bad in design and "animation" (if you can even call it that), and the only redeeming factor was the music, which was pretty good (done by the man/band who did the music for TFV, Blast Wind and Hyperduel). Then I reached the final stage, fought through the first four bosses again, and met the last boss... and was promptly handed my ass.

It starts out simple enough. Some tracer bullets that are fired at where you are, a small spread of pink bullets, and a spread of thin lasers that criss-cross which are easy enough to dodge, despite how well they blend into the background. The next phase ramps up the difficulty by firing a blob of blue bullets at wherever you are, a quick moving spread of blue bullets in random directions, and then three big lasers that cross the screen. After which, it moves to the other side, and repeats the process in the opposite direction. Then it gets really pissed.

It begins firing thick spreads of pinks bullets above and below it, with six wide lasers that leave a large opening in the middle, with lots of thin blue lasers that slowly move in your general direction. There's a lot of squeezing into tight spaces here, and if you survive this, the boss blows up...

... and then comes back as just the upper half. This parts first attack is a big web of thick lasers, leaving spaces for you to dodge the small pink tracking shots that came at where you are. Then comes the rapid fire tracking shots that do the same thing. After that, big greenish-yellow orbs that follow you for a while, which are fired in a steady stream. After that, a spray of fast moving rapid fire blue bullets that are shot out continuously. After that, a steady spread of pink bullets while large lasers are fired at wherever you are in rapid succession, which stay on the screen for a time. After that, a blue bullet spread followed by a spray of fast moving thin blue lasers. Then a spread of the thicker lasers, more greenish-yellow orbs that follow you, more fast blue bullets... it just never ends.

This isn't a manic fight like DoDonPachi where you make tight weaves in and out of intricate bullet patterns, it's just a mass of shit being thrown at you willy-nilly until you die. And you will die. A lot. It's the kind of final confrontation that just screams of cheap pattern creation that's not designed, but rather thrown sloppily together, and the end result is dying again and again and again, while burning through continues.