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artificialist
09-08-2003, 07:11 PM
Lizard Tail: From SEGA's big rig arcade machine.
The Coop
09-17-2003, 06:29 AM
I was playing an old Saturn game Darius Gaiden... a boss from which I mentioned some time ago here (the crab from Zone "X"). Well, I found a second boss in that game that really does deserve mention. I'm not sure which zone it's from, but it's a really big sea horse.
This same boss has appeared in G-Darius as well, but the 2D version is just plain mean. Many of your shit simply bounce off of this things body, and the one place you can do damage is very small... and multi-staged. It fires bullets and laser beams in sloqly changing angles, but at the same time... this way they make a hectic pattern that you gotta either avoid and do no damage to it, or try and dodge through so you can do damage. The Black Hole bombs are nearly worthless beyond just sucking up the many shots so they don't kill you for a short time, and the damn thing just never seems to die.
I eventually beat it, but it deserves to be here.
Xelebes
09-17-2003, 07:05 AM
This thread is still alive? I remember this when I was still in Gen Disc only. (Of which I wasn't here for long).
Ne boss that is ticking me off. The Statue of Liberty in "Samurai Zombie Nation". I hate the snakes... I hate the snakes...
Vwee! Post 1000 on this thread.
I still say Zeromus from FFIV is the hardest final boss ever.
I'm trying to kill him right now. Stupid hard type, there's no way to keep
your characters alive through that battle if you don't spend hours levelling up.
Steal his Dark Matter, heal non-stop with Rosa, and use Edge to throw everything you've got at him. You can also try summoning with Rydia if you ever get the chance. :P
Personal picks? I can't think of any *impossible* bosses, but Seymour Natus did give me a lot of trouble. Vagrant Story's final boss sucked, too...good thing I saved up on Vera items. I've heard things about Kingdom Hearts' Phantom, too.
Khrystoph
09-17-2003, 07:32 AM
Yeah, I knew you had to steal Dark Matter from Zeromus to take the sting out of his Big Bang attack, but I still had to be at like level 80 something to beat him (with Rosa on medic and Edge throwing everything... Edge kept dying)
damathacus
09-17-2003, 08:10 AM
Vwee! Post 1000 on this thread.
I still say Zeromus from FFIV is the hardest final boss ever.
I'm trying to kill him right now. Stupid hard type, there's no way to keep
your characters alive through that battle if you don't spend hours levelling up.
Steal his Dark Matter, heal non-stop with Rosa, and use Edge to throw everything you've got at him. You can also try summoning with Rydia if you ever get the chance. :P
Personal picks? I can't think of any *impossible* bosses, but Seymour Natus did give me a lot of trouble. Vagrant Story's final boss sucked, too...good thing I saved up on Vera items. I've heard things about Kingdom Hearts' Phantom, too.
I killed him. You know what? The secret to this guy isn't teamwork at all. In fact, you pretty much have to strip away all the deadweight. Since the conservation of energy applies to healing spells, being divided equally between party members, anyone that isn' contributng to the battle just ends up sucking up healing power needlessly, so that hp gets low enough that everyone ends up being killed. Kill everyone else before you use the crystal, except Edge, Rosa and Cecil, when Cecil runs out of throwing weapons, have Cecil do shot for shot while Rosa heals. With just the two of them, they're an unbeatable team, full power every turn. So much for team loyalty though. Kinda an anti-climactic secret to winning the final battle though.
Wow, I've finally did it! I read the whole thread. Took me a week of little visits to do it, but I did it. Incredible!!
Anyway, in all this shit, I've only seen two mentions of the final boss in Shinobi for PS2. I'll forgive it, cuz most of you slugs prob played it and died on the first stage. It takes reflexes, and even then, it aint easy. I love it though. I rule on this game. I walk thru it untouched. I whoop everyone's arse till I get to Hiroko. He looks like a little boy, but he's a fuckin prick. Talk about cheap... I think the designers were on the rag when they made him up. Most of you couldn't beat this game if you had all the time in the world, and guess what, cheats won't help you much. Unless you can find one for invincibility, I suggest you run back to your rpg's and hide out. Bye the way Coop. I still haven't fuckin beat HELLFIRE. Any tips?
I am not going to pussyffoot around the issue. Lunar 2's final boss was very hard for two reasons. one, he had cheap ass moves, and the final save point comes right after a long dungeon and i had no items.
two. THE FIGHTS IN THAT GAME WERE B.O.R.I.N.G.
the game was good. i loved the animation. the fights were so goddawful boring that it was torture. and to top it off, the final boss is atleast half an hour of fight, so after five tries of half an hour boring fight sequences, i gave up.
it is one of two RPGs i have played and not beaten yet. the other is Ephermeral Phantasia, which ran up a 40 dollar fine on my Blockbuster card, so i returned it and went to rerent it a few days later. it was gone forever.
HamsterCorp
09-19-2003, 01:07 AM
I suppose it could be considered a boss:
The level 100 Prinny in Prinny Land 3 in Disgaea. I can take everything else in the stage, but that damn super-prinny does massive amounts of damage to my average level 40 team. And throwing the stupid things doesn't work in Prinny Land.
Warmech
09-26-2003, 10:13 PM
I've seen plenty of mentions for Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2, but I guess since I play them a whole lot whenever I go to where I have my old NES, I can beat those two games fairly easy now. I haven't seen anyone mention Ninja Gaiden 3 though. That game was a lot harder than both of the others. I've actually gotten to the final boss(at least I hope it is), and he beat me. The only time I ever got to him. First of all the last stage is about as long as the final stages in the first two games combined, so once you get to the boss, you might be able to have half your life left. Then, if I remember correctly, he just sort of flies around the room and hits you with this lightning attack that I couldn't dodge. Got him down to about half life though, so many one day...
Carbon Dog
09-26-2003, 10:18 PM
I am not going to pussyffoot around the issue. Lunar 2's final boss was very hard for two reasons. one, he had cheap ass moves, and the final save point comes right after a long dungeon and i had no items.
two. THE FIGHTS IN THAT GAME WERE B.O.R.I.N.G.
the game was good. i loved the animation. the fights were so goddawful boring that it was torture. and to top it off, the final boss is atleast half an hour of fight, so after five tries of half an hour boring fight sequences, i gave up.
it is one of two RPGs i have played and not beaten yet. the other is Ephermeral Phantasia, which ran up a 40 dollar fine on my Blockbuster card, so i returned it and went to rerent it a few days later. it was gone forever.
I must agree with you on the Lunar 2 part, I spent, no lie, atleast 45mins to an hour wailing on him, and he didn't budge :(
FlankingLine
10-01-2003, 06:04 AM
I suppose it could be considered a boss:
The level 100 Prinny in Prinny Land 3 in Disgaea. I can take everything else in the stage, but that damn super-prinny does massive amounts of damage to my average level 40 team. And throwing the stupid things doesn't work in Prinny Land.
I'm currently fighting the level 4000 Lord of Terror Baal. 3.5x10^6 HP, does 3x10^5 per hit and I can't do any damage to him. I thought the Prinny God was easier than the last boss, but this guy is impossible. And I hear there is another, level 6000 boss after you beat this dude. (And I've put over 100 hours into the game already. It will take at least another 30 to beat Baal).
I would suggest leveling up in the first level of the final episode until you reach level 60-70. Shouldn't be a problem then.
And yes, I used scientific notation to make the numbers look larger.
DeathSlice
10-01-2003, 06:27 AM
Hardest boss you say? Emerald Weapon from FFVII thay guy had me beat forever, until one day I just came up with a good materia combo.
Redlight
10-02-2003, 08:21 PM
Yea, I agree with Emerald weapon but thankfully I could improve my characters to beat him. I still can't beat Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts and my Sora is Level 100... I have all the magic, items, everything. Oh well. I'm so out of practice I'll probably never beat him. :(
Johnofthong
10-02-2003, 08:46 PM
spherath from ffvii :twisted:
Akai Suisen
10-02-2003, 08:55 PM
spherath from ffvii
Damn that 'spherath'....one hard bastard....
Stitchface
10-02-2003, 09:59 PM
Toughest boss I've ever faced was King in Rockman & Forte for the Snes.
genghisdani
10-02-2003, 10:06 PM
The hardest boss, in my opinion, wasn't really a boss.
To this day, I STILL haven't gotten past the part in Starfox Adventures where you're on the back of that pteradactle (don't blame me for not spelling it right) trying to shoot all of the missles AND shoot the 4 towers when you get close.
That is near impossible, but then again, I didn't have a turbo controller.
Bucky Brent
10-03-2003, 12:11 AM
Hardest boss for me recently was Meta Ridley.
Another one from years ago was Eyedol (on the highest difficulty).
I had him down to about | | this much life with Sabrewulf, and he killed me.
artificialist
10-03-2003, 12:44 AM
Back when I was 8 years old, M.Bison was the most evil boss ever. It was 1992, and I had SFII for the SNES. I always wondered why he couldn't be selected.
Rodin
10-03-2003, 01:45 AM
The alien mothership in Metal Slug 2 on the hardest difficulty. It launches 4 little parasite ships that hover around right above your head firing lasers constantly at you. In addition to that, it has a main cannon that cuts the screen in half periodically with a huge energy blast. I have never managed to beat this thing on hard without using exorbitant amounts of quarters...or in fact beat it at all in the console version. Mad, mad hard.
Malekalovolus
10-04-2003, 12:24 PM
There was this SNES game called Vortex. A very crude and sucky 3D giant morping robot shooter game. I know I'm far from good at most action games, but this is frigging impossible...
I could beat most of the levels on first try, but already the first boss took me two weeks. That's not very decent fluctuation in challenge. The second boss was even harder; I once beat the 3rd one by sheer luck with some strange trick I still haven't managed to reproduce. So currently the 4th one is the last one I've made it to without cheating. Where it gets insane is his last form, when his head starts flying around like a little UFO, too high to shoot at from ground. So you have to use a jet form.
The trick is that
1) his turning radius is a lot smaller than yours. Thus:
2) you cannot possibly destroy him before you run out of fuel.
3) You can recharge your fuel by solar energy in a highly shielded form which does not have weapons, but with him shooting you all the time, it takes about 30 minutes to recharge.
I've deduced that if I were persistent with him, I could destroy him with about 20 air assaults. That makes 10 hours of recharging, which is a task I haven't gone for. I have other things in my life than crappy old SNES games.
And using some cheat codes, I've seen that it doesn't get any better after that. There's bosses whose attacks you cannot dodge and you can't do enough damage before getting killed.
Or maybe I'm just reeeeally bad in that game and haven't figured out some obvious tactic.
damathacus
10-05-2003, 05:01 AM
Yea, I agree with Emerald weapon but thankfully I could improve my characters to beat him. I still can't beat Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts and my Sora is Level 100... I have all the magic, items, everything. Oh well. I'm so out of practice I'll probably never beat him. :(
I beat him at level 70. He's not that difficult once you figure out his pattern. You have to attack everytime he completes an attack, and you gotta move quick, but it's doable. I think I got him within five tries. How many attempts have you made?
Redlight
10-05-2003, 05:10 AM
Yea, I agree with Emerald weapon but thankfully I could improve my characters to beat him. I still can't beat Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts and my Sora is Level 100... I have all the magic, items, everything. Oh well. I'm so out of practice I'll probably never beat him. :(
I beat him at level 70. He's not that difficult once you figure out his pattern. You have to attack everytime he completes an attack, and you gotta move quick, but it's doable. I think I got him within five tries. How many attempts have you made?
:D *Upon thinking about this question...*-- I think I've tried it three times, but it seemed like more. It was around the time I got Final Fantasy Origions and TimeSplitters 2 so my attention was elsewhere. Usually I'm not such a quitter...
EDIT: By the way, the only reason I'm up so late is because I just went to Homecoming.
damathacus
10-05-2003, 05:14 AM
The funny thing is that you have to take off about a full bar of energy without knowing how much damage you're doing before his hp starts visibly diminishing. So it makes you think you're not doing any damage at all. Pretty clever. Bastards.
Blues Zodiakos
10-05-2003, 01:33 PM
"There was this SNES game called Vortex. A very crude and sucky 3D giant morping robot shooter game. I know I'm far from good at most action games, but this is frigging impossible... "
Hehe, but the game did have one redeeming quality... the first stage's music rocked. The rest of it kind of sucked though.
The Coop
10-18-2003, 09:39 AM
Ya know, for some odd reason I decided to pop in an old Genesis tiles I've owned for years... Sword of Sodan.
I doubt many of you have played this old Electronic Arts game (back when they were putting out games in cardboard boxes), but it has a final boss that's just... a complete dick. He starts out as a wizard shotting fireballs. No pattern, just utterly random fireballs that knock you back as you slowly get closer to him. Should you reach him and starting wailing away with your sword, he doesn't take long to beat. Then he takes on his second form... a BIG, half larva half lobster clawed monster that attacks with it's claws and shoots that same fireballs out on a red spot on its belly (also random patterned).
Now it get fun. The fireballs still do the same amount of damage, but the claws hurt big time. The creatures weak point is its red belly, but it's always shooting fireballs so while you hit it, it's pelting you. Then when you DO manage to hit it, the damn thing backs up and will back out of the screen so you can't hit it... WHILE IT'S STILL SHOOTING FIREBALLS!!!!!
It's bad enough that the thing's a pain in the ass to get close to, let alone hit, but when it's not even on the screen and it can still attack you... that's just controller flight inducingly frustrating :x
bluebeetle
10-18-2003, 03:04 PM
Bongo Bongo on Ocarina of time....been stuck on him for 2 years.
TheRedBob
10-18-2003, 03:19 PM
Now then...I own well over 200 games...(NES, Atari Jaguar, GBC/GBA, N64, GCN, PC) and have beaten almost every one. Very few requiring cheats. There are a few games which I deem impossible...
1. CyberMorph (Atari Jaguar) Now, this game doesn't have bosses, but you visit different planets, collecting enough "pods" to leave the level. This game has it all, invincible enemies, giant worm things that were next to impossible to kill, since they come in large groups on the later levels. If you hit a mountain, which every planet is covered in, you are badly damaged. If you go fast enough to escape enemies, you crash into mountains because of the dreaded, "graphical pop up". Like I said, this game has no bosses, but several of the normal enemies are so fast and deadly, it's like your surrounded by bosses.
2. Trojan (NES) This game is hard the first time you play. After a while, you get good enough you can make it to the 3rd level. Then, instead of just fighting foot soldiers from the left and right, which is hard anyway, you now have to face crossbowmen, (which you can't hit) quicksand, (which you can't jump over or anything) and centipede-like things which can roll up into balls ond run you over. Friggin 3rd level. Does have an intense multiplayer mode, though.
3. Tachyon: The Fringe (PC) I love this game. Hard at times, easy at others. The final misson on the Bora(sp?) side is impossible. I tried it with every ship, every stratagy I could think of. I finally just cheated and flew right up next to the ship I was supposed to destroy and fired relentlessly for about 10 minutes. You are under a constant spray of lasers and missles by both the station and the enemy ships. I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E.
Wondering if anyone has played these games?
Subliminal
10-18-2003, 03:37 PM
Any of you ever played Shatterhand on the NES.
That last boss guy was the devil :twisted:. It took me like 25 minutes to beat him, which on a side scrolling beat em up is quite the long time.
Also, God on Final Fantasy Legend. That guy was baaad.
Nakanja
10-18-2003, 03:40 PM
Magma Dragoon from MegaManX4 is my nemesis. I just cannot beat this guy in less than around 10 tries, even though MegaMan bosses are ususally pretty easy for me after memorizing all they're attacks. I'm talking about the second battle, when you don't have the Ride Armor to help you.
I can probably come up with harder bosses than this, but this is the only one I can think of at the moment.
SyncMaster
10-18-2003, 03:54 PM
I would have to say lavos( final form ) in Chrono Trigger damn he whips you good
Subliminal
10-18-2003, 04:01 PM
Oh yeah, I know this has prolly been said already (I haven't read all the posts). But that &*&^-er from NARC pissed me off so damn much.
Oh, and Lavos really wasn't that hard unless you were fighting the Lavos in the underwater palace who was supposed to kill you anyway. Or if you went alone with Crono at the beginning, which was an awesome way to go, in my opinion. One on one. There can be only one highlander :)
TheRedBob
10-18-2003, 09:15 PM
I just beat De Rol Lie on Phantasy Star Online. I'm a level 83 HuMar and it took me 45 minutes.
That was intense. Hardest boss i've fought in a LOOOONG time. My weapon of choice is the Delsaber's Buster, in combination with the Shield of Delsaber. But that's the last time i'll have to play the caves. Ever. I hope. :roll:
The Instrument of GAWD
10-18-2003, 11:08 PM
I just beat De Rol Lie on Phantasy Star Online. I'm a level 83 HuMar and it took me 45 minutes.
That was intense. Hardest boss i've fought in a LOOOONG time. My weapon of choice is the Delsaber's Buster, in combination with the Shield of Delsaber. But that's the last time i'll have to play the caves. Ever. I hope. :roll:
De Rol Lie? that's the Ultimate difficulty verison right? it's been awhile since i played PSOffline (not as fun as it is online reason why i haven't been playing it much)
anyway, i have to say that Rugal in King Of Fighters 98 on the hardest difficulty was a REAL FRIGGIN' BITCH to put up with.... and the Final Form of Lavos in CT was a bitch face too. i'm sure i would have a few more but my memory is slow, lol.
songcutioner
10-18-2003, 11:32 PM
Yeah, De Ral Le (or whatever), he's supposed to be nearly impossible to beat! I'm not there yet but I'm gonna have fun b/c I'm an android :D
I say that The right paddle in pong level 99 was pretty tough.
EstrataX
10-20-2003, 04:10 AM
I would have to say that Sephiroth from FFVII is the hardest. If you managed to have all characters to level 99, and master all materia, he was still a rediculous hard boss. he could whipe out a level 99 character in a few hits. (also, Sephiroth from Kingdom Hearts was quite the bitch himself)
my vote: Sephiroth
damathacus
10-20-2003, 04:25 AM
Level 99? How did you ever have the patience to level up that much? I spent like, two hours in that sunken submarine (which supposedly is the best place to level up) in order to gain levels to beat the weapons, and I only went up a couple of levels. I never was able to beat either of them, I eventually gave up. I think I was in the high 60's, level-wise. I can't imagine Sephiroth would be any kind of challenge at level 99. The first time I beat him, I didn't even use Knights of the Round, although I still had them taking up a slot, which was a waste, since I refused to use them. With KOTR, well, it's not even much of a fight.
Rucianu
10-20-2003, 04:28 AM
Ruby Weapon. I hated that thing more than Sephiroth...all the tactics I tried and other people suggested never worked. -_-
Subliminal
10-20-2003, 02:25 PM
Weapons are extremely easy with the right combinations of materia. Combine KOTR with HP absorb and mimic for what would pretty much be an invincibility materia. Oh yeah, Phoenix with last attack just in case someone gets in a fluke kill on ya. It's pretty easy that way. You only need to be about level 55 to beat anything in the game with that combo. Anything else you put on is just for show. :twisted:
XseCrystal
10-20-2003, 07:28 PM
Isn't this sort of like asking someone what the hardest riddle they've solved is?
Everyone is going to have a different answer because everyone thinks differently. Not everyone is going to have the same difficulty on the same bosses.
Now we all know it is down to the Skull-tank thing in S.M.A.S.H TV or that Sheep that just won't leave my town in Animal Crossing. And I am pissed off that she's in my tulip garden.
seanstar
10-20-2003, 09:47 PM
I just beat De Rol Lie on Phantasy Star Online. I'm a level 83 HuMar and it took me 45 minutes.
That was intense. Hardest boss i've fought in a LOOOONG time. My weapon of choice is the Delsaber's Buster, in combination with the Shield of Delsaber. But that's the last time i'll have to play the caves. Ever. I hope. :roll:
Yeh, Rol is a toughie. I still hate him more than the others, regardless of difficulty level. Still, so long as I have a few levels under my belt and either a good melee weapon (Hu/Ra) or a few levels of Zonde-derivitive (Fo) I can get through in a few tries.
I'd have to say the hardest boss of all time is the one at the very end of arcade Space Invaders. Anyone ever beat the game? Anyone?
I rest my case :D
(the one at the tail end of Galaga is also a bitch...)
TheRedBob
10-20-2003, 10:10 PM
I just beat De Rol Lie on Phantasy Star Online. I'm a level 83 HuMar and it took me 45 minutes.
That was intense. Hardest boss i've fought in a LOOOONG time. My weapon of choice is the Delsaber's Buster, in combination with the Shield of Delsaber. But that's the last time i'll have to play the caves. Ever. I hope. :roll:
Yeh, Rol is a toughie. I still hate him more than the others, regardless of difficulty level. Still, so long as I have a few levels under my belt and either a good melee weapon (Hu/Ra) or a few levels of Zonde-derivitive (Fo) I can get through in a few tries.
I'd have to say the hardest boss of all time is the one at the very end of arcade Space Invaders. Anyone ever beat the game? Anyone?
I rest my case :D
(the one at the tail end of Galaga is also a bitch...)
*sigh*
I thought De Rol Lie was hard.
Then I went into the mines on Ultimate. Hehe.
The gilchichs now are hard as HELL. normally, one attack knocks them over, right? But NO. It takes more like 4 now. I'm now level 87, and i'm just giving up on Ultimate for awhile. I'm gonna beat all the hunter's guild quests on very hard. The mines did some major damage to my self-confidence :roll:
I should try to make a PSO thread again.
Omnitrix
10-29-2003, 07:19 AM
Sephiroth in kingdom heats is a pain.
Sephiroth in kingdom heats is a pain.
Already mentioned but hey he's such a bitch he deserves multiple complaints.
Another one coming out of Kingdom Hearts, Riku. When you fight him for the second time in Hallow Bastion. I ALWAYS have problems with him.
The Coop
11-05-2003, 05:29 AM
Ever played a Genesis game called Raiden Trad? If you have, then you'll probably know this boss.
On level 5, there's a boss that's deceptively nasty. The level itself is filled with shooting carts that ride in on railroad tracks, and that pop up at bad times. But the boss...?
You start off with a somewhat easy pattern that you can dodge as it shoots a spread of bullets from each of its wings. As this vehicle moves back and forth, forward and back, the spreads aren't too rough. But once you blow up one of the wings, it gets a bit pissed. The spread from the other wing starts going nuts and bullets fly everywhere. If you manage to blow this up, then you're stuck with a few new spread shoot spots on the main body, and little pods that it launches on the ground two at a time... also firing spreads. While it's not as crasy as say Giga Wing, there are bullets flying everywhere.
If you use all your bombs (assuming you survived and built up a stash in the previous levels), you're left alive, but bombless on the next stage... where bombs are rather handy, and being without them means death is several areas. If you don't use them, you're screwed. You die, and any weapons power/bomb stash you had, is gone and you get stuck with two bombs... which won't kill it at all, and thusly causing you to lose yet more ships.
A nasty little boss to be sure.
Rodin
11-05-2003, 05:40 AM
Sephiroth in kingdom heats is a pain.
Already mentioned but hey he's such a bitch he deserves multiple complaints.
Another one coming out of Kingdom Hearts, Riku. When you fight him for the second time in Hallow Bastion. I ALWAYS have problems with him.
Sephiroth in KH is only insanely hard up until a certain level. I spent many hours leveling up and gathering all the synthesizing ingredients, so that by the time I was done I was about level 85, and had the ultimate weapon. After that, Sephiroth is a cinch. I actually leveled my character the remaining levels exclusively by beating the crap out of Sephiroth :lol:
I just started playing the game again after about something like a 6 month hiatus, and played the Sephiroth battle with my level 100 character just for laughs. He kicked my ass pretty bad (embarassingly bad for how good I had been just a few months before), but still won due to how insanely powerful Sora was by that point.
Still, I think Sephiroth has to be the most insanely quick boss I have ever seen...
El Ornitorrinco
11-05-2003, 07:30 PM
Either the last boss in Red Dog (it's a DC game) or the last boss in Starcraft.... yeah that'd have to be it.
Rodin
11-05-2003, 08:21 PM
The last boss in Starcraft? Wha!? The final LEVEL in Starcraft is hard. The overmind itself has no attacks whatsoever. Carve up all his minions, and the thing is a sitting duck.
Heh...you'd think with all those tentacles he'd at least be able to attack Sunken Colony-style. Just imagine how much harder that mission would be if they did 40 damage...
madjik2k
11-05-2003, 08:43 PM
I just beat De Rol Lie on Phantasy Star Online. I'm a level 83 HuMar and it took me 45 minutes.
That was intense. Hardest boss i've fought in a LOOOONG time. My weapon of choice is the Delsaber's Buster, in combination with the Shield of Delsaber. But that's the last time i'll have to play the caves. Ever. I hope. :roll:
Yeh, Rol is a toughie. I still hate him more than the others, regardless of difficulty level. Still, so long as I have a few levels under my belt and either a good melee weapon (Hu/Ra) or a few levels of Zonde-derivitive (Fo) I can get through in a few tries.
I'd have to say the hardest boss of all time is the one at the very end of arcade Space Invaders. Anyone ever beat the game? Anyone?
I rest my case :D
(the one at the tail end of Galaga is also a bitch...)
*sigh*
I thought De Rol Lie was hard.
Then I went into the mines on Ultimate. Hehe.
The gilchichs now are hard as HELL. normally, one attack knocks them over, right? But NO. It takes more like 4 now. I'm now level 87, and i'm just giving up on Ultimate for awhile. I'm gonna beat all the hunter's guild quests on very hard. The mines did some major damage to my self-confidence :roll:
I should try to make a PSO thread again.
heh im in on that thread :twisted: mines on ULT are nothing compared to the runes. while De Rol Lie is hard, i think Dark Flow is tougher. there is no way to beat it past the hard difficulty without scape dolls (seriously, i tried like 30 times). soooo yea. Dark Flow on PSO ep 1&2 gets my vote for hardest boss :?
Rodin
11-05-2003, 08:44 PM
Ai yai yai! That would be just crazy...
The coolest thing about the final mission for me was that because of my low skill level (at the time) I was unable to defeat the entire base.
*Spoilers*
Instead, I just made a large carrier fleet and bum-rushed the Overmind with them, with Tassadar at the head of the fleet in Gantrithor. The overmind went down right as the last of my carriers were biting the dust, and the Gantrithor was brutally damaged. It then went straight from that into the ending sequence with Tassadar slamming the heavily damaged Gantrithor into the Overmind to finish it off :)
Absolutely the most perfect way to end the game EVER, fit the cinematic in a way that I probably couldn't replicate if I tried. This is still one of my favorite VG moments of all time...
Yggdrasil
11-05-2003, 10:16 PM
well, i know its not a boss per se, but omega weapon in FFVIII gave a full can of wupa$$.
Then sephirot in KH, if and only if you arent level 8o-something and dont have the ultimate weapon.
Shredder in TMNT arcade. I just remember him killing me with one hit of his anti-mutation ray and making as many of himself as he wanted, and hardly ever getting a hit in.
Fr0zEn-Ph0eNiX
11-05-2003, 10:40 PM
Hmm I wonder if anyone mentioned this yet.
X-death from FFV in any part of the game. I mean come on, "YOU WILL DIE IN 30 SECONDS". Thats not easy. Try beating him without mimic once. That is probably one of the most rediculasly difficult bosses ever.
I also found lavos tought the first time around when i hadn't beat the game before. It tooks several tries so I suppose he's one of the tough ones.
Uhm.. I dont know if anyone played bomberman 64 back in the day but that big machine that had lazers and machine guns was tought to beat. Well he wasnt that tough. But getting all the gold cards from him was a bitch.
There's more but I think I'm only supposed to post 1.
KeeperS
11-05-2003, 10:50 PM
Magma Dragoon from MegaManX4 is my nemesis. I just cannot beat this guy in less than around 10 tries, even though MegaMan bosses are ususally pretty easy for me after memorizing all they're attacks. I'm talking about the second battle, when you don't have the Ride Armor to help you.
I can probably come up with harder bosses than this, but this is the only one I can think of at the moment.
If you're playing as X, this battle is insanely easy with Double Cyclone. Since nobody would have a problem with that, I'm assuming you're playing with Zero, in which case it's a bit more tricky. Basically you just need to learn his moves and how to dodge them. Luck plays a small part here too. If you're REALLY having that much trouble, just fight this guy first and use a sub tank on him. You can always charge up the tank in between the boss battles, and by the time you get to Sigma, you should be full again.
Beatdown
11-05-2003, 10:59 PM
The sphinx on Powerstone 2. Me and a friend spent 45 minutes trying to beat him on the hardest difficulty, it's just wrong. You're being shot at every second while you're under it, then you have the sphinx itself to contend with (that shoots the biggest laser known to man). That's a tantrum-inducing boss if I've ever played one.
The big, black, badass ball of asskicking sideboss in FFIX. *shudders
I know everone's already mentioned Sephiroth in KH but I still did him at lvl 70 with the Metal Chocobo (note: VERY CAREFULLY).
And just to be an ass I'll mention the Sleeper, THE one absolute unbeatable monster of all time. I guess it doesn't really count seeing as how no one has ever killed it (or even come close) nor is it really a boss, but it kicks so much ass it's just worth mentioning. If you don't know, it's an Everquest thing. Ask around.
TheDarkSaxPlaya
11-05-2003, 11:27 PM
i think that kefka, or sephy get coolest boss, but that's not this topic, so i think the hardest boss would have to be the ultimate slime thingy at the end of that long assed dungeon. if i remember correctly, you have to kill him in like 3 or so turns, or he runs away or sumthin lame like that. next would have to be the ultimate dragon from the same game. the one u fight if you collect its eggs or sumthin like that. with 65,565 hp, he has like the largest amount of hp a character can possibly have in an snes game. i spent hours devising strategies to kill him, so i wouldn't have to check the internet. turns out that after many frustratingly hours of devising, i came up with the same strategy as the one i compared it to online. so meh.
on a different topic, the most annoying boss is definetly gotta be doom gaze from FFVI. >_< you have to fly around until you get in a fight with him, and he runs away like a pansy after like 10000 dmg. forcing yet another 5-10 minutes of random flying to find him! >_<
Beatdown
11-05-2003, 11:31 PM
i think that kefka, or sephy get coolest boss, but that's not this topic, so i think the hardest boss would have to be the ultimate slime thingy at the end of that long assed dungeon. if i remember correctly, you have to kill him in like 3 or so turns, or he runs away or sumthin lame like that. next would have to be the ultimate dragon from the same game. the one u fight if you collect its eggs or sumthin like that. with 65,565 hp, he has like the largest amount of hp a character can possibly have in an snes game. i spent hours devising strategies to kill him, so i wouldn't have to check the internet. turns out that after many frustratingly hours of devising, i came up with the same strategy as the one i compared it to online. so meh.
on a different topic, the most annoying boss is definetly gotta be doom gaze from FFVI. >_< you have to fly around until you get in a fight with him, and he runs away like a pansy after like 10000 dmg. forcing yet another 5-10 minutes of random flying to find him! >_<
*just remembered that GODDAMN CHEAP ASS boss in the arena that randomly uses a move that blows you out of the battle...*
Warmech
11-05-2003, 11:44 PM
i think that kefka, or sephy get coolest boss, but that's not this topic, so i think the hardest boss would have to be the ultimate slime thingy at the end of that long assed dungeon. if i remember correctly, you have to kill him in like 3 or so turns, or he runs away or sumthin lame like that. next would have to be the ultimate dragon from the same game. the one u fight if you collect its eggs or sumthin like that. with 65,565 hp, he has like the largest amount of hp a character can possibly have in an snes game. i spent hours devising strategies to kill him, so i wouldn't have to check the internet. turns out that after many frustratingly hours of devising, i came up with the same strategy as the one i compared it to online. so meh.
on a different topic, the most annoying boss is definetly gotta be doom gaze from FFVI. >_< you have to fly around until you get in a fight with him, and he runs away like a pansy after like 10000 dmg. forcing yet another 5-10 minutes of random flying to find him! >_<
*just remembered that GODDAMN CHEAP ASS boss in the arena that randomly uses a move that blows you out of the battle...*
Yeah, Chupon. He is not supposed to be beaten though. Even with Locke equipped with Zephyr Capes and uber-high evade that sneeze attack is unavoidable.
The King of All Kupos
11-05-2003, 11:50 PM
Hardest Boss? Definately the Sleeper. Literally impossible, and once you fought him, he was gone on your server. That's right, after you wake him up, he never comes back. But if you're talking about bosses you can actually beat, I'd have to say Nemesis in FFX. I mean...he's just...too...hard...
Oh, and on a sidenote, KH Seph's not that hard (though he's still my favorite character from any game ever). I beat him at 63 with Oblivion. You just gotta know when to glide away from him and when to let lose. And fill up on elixirs if you can't catch him before he hits you with Sin Harvest.
Beatdown
11-05-2003, 11:53 PM
Hardest Boss? Definately the Sleeper. Literally impossible, and once you fought him, he was gone on your server. That's right, after you wake him up, he never comes back. But if you're talking about bosses you can actually beat, I'd have to say Nemesis in FFX. I mean...he's just...too...hard...
Had a guild of 70+ lvl 60's try to raid the Sleeper. PWNED. And it DOES come back, he just has an insane repspawn time (like a month or something someone told me, but he does come back).
The King of All Kupos
11-05-2003, 11:56 PM
Oh, my mistake.
Escorting the stupid AWAC in Robotech BattleCry.....I feel so ashamed. Also in XenoGears..its been awhile..but I got to the ship thats in the openings animation..fought some bad guy..used up all my fuel..then was forced to fight another boss after that..and since i was out of fuel..I died ....god I'd like to beat that game..but i gotta find it to buy it :(
(had to give it back to the guy he borrowed it from then he moved the bastard)
Any tips for anyone that knows what im talking about :P
Warmech
11-06-2003, 12:14 AM
Escorting the stupid AWAC in Robotech BattleCry.....I feel so ashamed. Also in XenoGears..its been awhile..but I got to the ship thats in the openings animation..fought some bad guy..used up all my fuel..then was forced to fight another boss after that..and since i was out of fuel..I died ....god I'd like to beat that game..but i gotta find it to buy it :(
(had to give it back to the guy he borrowed it from then he moved the bastard)
Any tips for anyone that knows what im talking about :P
Are you talking about Deus and then the other boss after him after the long dialogue?
Uhh..its been a long time. So I dont know names. I know im in the wreckage of the ship from the first FMV, I fought through it, got to a point where there was a repair mech(toot) Fuel'd up and fought a boss..this boss was a guy and that I'm pretty sure i've fought him on more than one occasion, and then after I beat him up I'm nearly dead and out of fuel and up comes another. Then I die :P
Warmech
11-06-2003, 12:36 AM
Oh, well I dunno.
Kawaiininjakat Haruspex
11-06-2003, 04:11 PM
The Black Rabite from SD3! Now that's an evil little s.o.b.
Coppatop85
11-06-2003, 04:55 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't kill the sleeper, correct?
Anyways, There's been a lot of talk about RPG bosses... I would have to say that I have never encountered any difficulty whatsoever in RPGs in terms of bosses.... aside from the ruby weapon in FF7, and that omega weapon in ff9, but they died eventually.
I had a lot of trouble with the boss from double dragon 2 on the NES.
g-dub
11-06-2003, 05:10 PM
I haven't checked many of the other replies so this one might of been said but without a doubt Mike Tyson on Mike Tyson's Punchout on NES. You could also say Mr. Dream on just normal Punchout also on NES. I couldn't beat them even with game genie. Has anyone beat them?
Coppatop85
11-06-2003, 05:53 PM
yeah, Mike Tyson was definatly one of the hardest bosses, someone did mention him though. I never beat him.... you have to win by decision.
Coppatop85
11-06-2003, 06:07 PM
yeah, Mike Tyson was definatly one of the hardest bosses, someone did mention him though. I never beat him.... you have to win by decision.
Beatdown
11-06-2003, 09:22 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't kill the sleeper, correct?
Anyways, There's been a lot of talk about RPG bosses... I would have to say that I have never encountered any difficulty whatsoever in RPGs in terms of bosses.... aside from the ruby weapon in FF7, and that omega weapon in ff9, but they died eventually.
I had a lot of trouble with the boss from double dragon 2 on the NES.
The thing used 3-4 aoe nukes and killed 6 rogues (me included), then it starts focusing on the healers/casters. Hell no we didn't kill it! btw, the sleeper can zone after it's been awakened from what I hear...
RPG bosses are easy if you can overlevel, it's the optional ones that are programmed to be totally unfair that are always the challenge. Tell the truth I had more probs with emerald than ruby. For some odd reason everyone but Cloud was dead and everytime it countered KotR with ultima it missed. Every time! Emerald was more of a pain, it did more damage and had that goddamned move that instantly kills everyone (except a lvl 100 Cid that somehow always only takes 8000-9000 damage). Oh well.
RouWa
11-06-2003, 09:33 PM
Snake Rattle´n Roll/NES. That stupid bigfood in level 11. Could never defeat him. Ahhh...
Refelos
11-07-2003, 05:19 PM
the first time i faught carry armor (ff7) i was low leveled with no lightning magic. that fight made me restart the damn game :evil: . and it took me a while to beat necron from ff9 but that was only cuz i didnt care cuz i hate that game!
DragonKain
11-07-2003, 07:00 PM
I have to say that the only hard RPG bosses are those on something like Chono Cross where you can't just simply level up to kick ass... I'm working on a game myself that it takes longer for you to level up so you'd be more encouraged to do side quests and finding secret weapons and such to power your character over beating on the monsters (which are strong anyway)
hard bosses on an RPG would be something like Olga Flow from PSO, or just annoying like Spikey on Secret of Mana
but honestly, it would be something like one of the senior dragons on Dragon Seeds, where you can only train so much before your dragon just becomes too old to fight, then you've gotta have SKILL, not just whacking endless monsters
hard bosses on other genre games would include Biolizzard from SA2b, Meta Ridley from Metriod Prime (holy shit! how much punishment can he take? and he's never open for a shot when he's almost dead!)
hmm... what else...I know Dario is IMPOSSIBLE without going through the game the second time, poora poora Riddel...
and if you want a super uber hard badass, play Star Ocean 2, goto the VERY end, save at the last save point, and go back to the first town you arrive at on the second world, talk to the girl that appears there, now the boss is so strong that you'll crap your pants! ... the only way to TRY to counter his strength is going to the old man in the arena, talking to him, going back to the first planet, and jumping on your bird to the hidden dungeon! you better not beat it until you REALLY think you're ready to (somewhere over level 250...) and make sure you pick up Ashton's triAce attack! it's a must!
FlankingLine
11-07-2003, 07:09 PM
Emerald was more of a pain, it did more damage and had that goddamned move that instantly kills everyone (except a lvl 100 Cid that somehow always only takes 8000-9000 damage). Oh well.
This is because he had eight pieces of materia. Aire tam is materia spelled backwords. It does 1111 for every piece of materia on a character. So, yeah, instant death for anyone with >8 pieces.
Soontah
11-08-2003, 01:11 AM
i had a hard time beating the first boss in wily's castle on the first megaman. come to think of it every boss in that castle was a bitch without using the pause-unpause method. especially when you face your clone. NOW THAT IS A BITCH!
and if you want a super uber hard badass, play Star Ocean 2, goto the VERY end, save at the last save point, and go back to the first town you arrive at on the second world, talk to the girl that appears there, now the boss is so strong that you'll crap your pants! ... the only way to TRY to counter his strength is going to the old man in the arena, talking to him, going back to the first planet, and jumping on your bird to the hidden dungeon! you better not beat it until you REALLY think you're ready to (somewhere over level 250...) and make sure you pick up Ashton's triAce attack! it's a must!
finally! i love that game, but the bosses were hard as hell!
madjik2k
11-08-2003, 01:27 AM
the first time i faught carry armor (ff7) i was low leveled with no lightning magic. that fight made me restart the damn game :evil: . and it took me a while to beat necron from ff9 but that was only cuz i didnt care cuz i hate that game!
Is it just me or are there as many people that hate ff9 as there are that love it?
Bucky Brent
11-08-2003, 02:23 AM
Has anyone here ever beaten Chupon or Siegfried at the Coliseum? I can't remember if I ever did, (I think I beat Chupon once, but I don't remember).
Chupon always sneezed you away, and Seigfried did his hyperdrive move that took off ~7000 hp I think, even if your guy was at level 99. Even with the genji glove and offering, I don't know if I ever beat him...
The King of All Kupos
11-08-2003, 04:43 AM
Ok, I think it should be understood that when someone states an RPG boss as hard, overleveling doesn't count as valid. That is, when I say that, say, Emerald WEAPON was hard, I mean at the level I fought them. Overleveling is like saying Bowser's easy on Mario when you have a permanent invincibility star on...or something....
And yes, Kerafyrm (the Sleeper) could indeed zone after he was awakened. He would kill everyone who woke him up, kill everything in Sleeper's Tomb, fly across Velious wiping I believe Eastern Wastes, Great Divide, Western Wastes, and Skyshrine, and would despawn after Lord Yelinak.
Fallen66
11-08-2003, 05:05 AM
I don't know if you already clarified this, but i was looking in a few of the first pages and I found someone that said no boss is impossible. Well, that is semi true. If you ever played FF3, (for the NES) then you would know of the Bahamut fight at the beggining. He is impossible to beat no matter how leveled up you are, but i think its impossible to die to.( He always hits 0 or something and his health always reset every turn.) So the only way to continue the game is to run. So, just saying bosses can be impossible, there would just have to be a way to continue the game. (Like running or making the boss optional.)
Oh ya, and one boss I would have to say was the hardest was the Fate battle in Chrono Cross. I think I wasn't leveled up enough though, but I couldn't get past it. And I can't get past it now either, because my memory card with the save on it got messed up. Oh well.
Matt Cruea
11-08-2003, 05:21 AM
There is no deying this fact:
Street Fighter EX2 Shin M. Bison
FlankingLine
11-08-2003, 05:24 AM
Oh ya, and one boss I would have to say was the hardest was the Fate battle in Chrono Cross. I think I wasn't leveled up enough though, but I couldn't get past it. And I can't get past it now either, because my memory card with the save on it got messed up. Oh well.
The easy way to take out FATE is to steal a black plate from the black dragon. Since FATE only has one non-black attack (I think), that character will be invincible (most likely Serge). Also, set a few Freefall traps.
HamsterCorp
11-08-2003, 05:37 AM
Not exactly a boss, maybe a boss stage, but Max Period in DDR is f-ing nuts.
TebrynVrinn
11-08-2003, 07:41 AM
The Elite four in pokemon. Don't say "They're easy if you use a level 100 who-cares-what-the-fuck-it's-called-achu." If you follow the games pace your monsters are just like 40or around that and the five trainers(the rival after remember?) just end up ass-raping you.
Beatdown
11-08-2003, 10:40 AM
Oh, I forgot Fernandez. The huge horrifying yet somehow cute black ball of completly cheap and unfair ass kicking that is the boss of Waku Waku 7. His reach is halfway the distance of the screen, he's unbelievably fast, does incredible amounts of damage, can seemingly hit you from any position and worse of all his ultimate attack has absolutely no charge time whatsoever. If you haven't played against Fernandez, you truly don't know frustration...
Indigo
11-08-2003, 11:50 AM
Any and all of the bosses out of Wizards & Warriors II: Ironsword for the NES.
That game is so hard! I've spent many an hour in my youth in front of the TV trying to beat that damn cloud thing, but I never had the book to the game so I had no idea how.
lenoasj
11-08-2003, 01:48 PM
I have to say that the only hard RPG bosses are those on something like Chono Cross where you can't just simply level up to kick ass... I'm working on a game myself that it takes longer for you to level up so you'd be more encouraged to do side quests and finding secret weapons and such to power your character over beating on the monsters (which are strong anyway)
hard bosses on an RPG would be something like Olga Flow from PSO, or just annoying like Spikey on Secret of Mana
but honestly, it would be something like one of the senior dragons on Dragon Seeds, where you can only train so much before your dragon just becomes too old to fight, then you've gotta have SKILL, not just whacking endless monsters
hard bosses on other genre games would include Biolizzard from SA2b, Meta Ridley from Metriod Prime (holy shit! how much punishment can he take? and he's never open for a shot when he's almost dead!)
hmm... what else...I know Dario is IMPOSSIBLE without going through the game the second time, poora poora Riddel...
and if you want a super uber hard badass, play Star Ocean 2, goto the VERY end, save at the last save point, and go back to the first town you arrive at on the second world, talk to the girl that appears there, now the boss is so strong that you'll crap your pants! ... the only way to TRY to counter his strength is going to the old man in the arena, talking to him, going back to the first planet, and jumping on your bird to the hidden dungeon! you better not beat it until you REALLY think you're ready to (somewhere over level 250...) and make sure you pick up Ashton's triAce attack! it's a must!
I was able to defeat him on universe a few times with a lvl 140-170 party. Usually takes 30 min though. Key to that battle is interruption. Has anyone mentioned the final boss of the first Star Ocean? Every time you are slamming on his arse, he ends up blocking, taking 0 dmg, and then does a force heal of about 5000(I'm only dealing like 200-800 dmg per hit unless my mages jump in with a meteor spell). He gets easy once you start to over level, but then there is that 'traditional' boss in that game too.
reelmojo
11-08-2003, 07:17 PM
Oh, I forgot Fernandez. The huge horrifying yet somehow cute black ball of completly cheap and unfair ass kicking that is the boss of Waku Waku 7. His reach is halfway the distance of the screen, he's unbelievably fast, does incredible amounts of damage, can seemingly hit you from any position and worse of all his ultimate attack has absolutely no charge time whatsoever. If you haven't played against Fernandez, you truly don't know frustration...http://www.geocities.com/reelmojo/Fernandez.txt
He looks so happy, yet he's the epitome of all that is evil. Despite what you see here, he will give you nightmares... trust me.
Warmech
11-08-2003, 10:34 PM
Any and all of the bosses out of Wizards & Warriors II: Ironsword for the NES.
That game is so hard! I've spent many an hour in my youth in front of the TV trying to beat that damn cloud thing, but I never had the book to the game so I had no idea how.
I think the cloud thing is the final boss because I used a code once that was supposed to take you right to him. Regardless I could never hurt the bugger...
Lotus Child
11-08-2003, 11:17 PM
Uh. The last boss in Snake Rattle N' Roll. It's a foot that jumps around the summit of a mountain.. Yes, a foot. No matter how much you lick it, it will not die. I never finished the game.
Yes, that game was wierd. (and had kwel music).
that's just what i was thinking! that stinkin foot was soooo hard... i never beat that game either, but that might be cuz the last level is also freakin HARD
oh yea.. there's one ore two bosses in FF5 that are really tough.. as well as FF Tactics
...Maybe that foot had a fetish about one or multiple lizards licking his foot thus meaning he wouldn't die? :P
Matt Cruea
11-09-2003, 12:39 AM
hmm... what else...I know Dario is IMPOSSIBLE without going through the game the second time, poora poora Riddel...
and if you want a super uber hard badass, play Star Ocean 2, goto the VERY end, save at the last save point, and go back to the first town you arrive at on the second world, talk to the girl that appears there, now the boss is so strong that you'll crap your pants! ... the only way to TRY to counter his strength is going to the old man in the arena, talking to him, going back to the first planet, and jumping on your bird to the hidden dungeon! you better not beat it until you REALLY think you're ready to (somewhere over level 250...) and make sure you pick up Ashton's triAce attack! it's a must!
Yeah, Unlimited Indalecio was a bitch.
But Dario? He was nothing.
Refelos
11-09-2003, 04:02 PM
Dr. Robotnick, level 4(the last level) of sonic spinball. my god, just getting to him was a pain in the ass.
Mr. Bottle Rocket
11-09-2003, 04:04 PM
Dunno, whenever i get into a rut i cheat my ass off. :roll:
Refelos
11-09-2003, 04:43 PM
Dunno, whenever i get into a rut i cheat my ass off. :roll:
8O not in this thread, you don't. not nice work, n00b.
artificialist
11-10-2003, 12:37 AM
Dunno, whenever i get into a rut i cheat my ass off. :roll:
8O not in this thread, you don't. not nice work, n00b.
Would you rather miss the ending?
Anyway, the hardest boss is the timer in Gran Turismo 3. Getting your liscense from him is nearly impossible.
Refelos
11-10-2003, 02:36 PM
the aligator trio in pitfall
http://www.tld-crew.de/games/p/pitfall.gif
Wheel Of Jonus
11-10-2003, 05:00 PM
Meta Ridley from Metroid Prime. Also, the Omega Pirate was a real pain, until I got into the whole swing of fighting him. But Meta Ridley never got easy.
Also, the Core Defender from Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun - Firestorm was pretty much unkillable by normal means. He came to life and surprised me the first time I played through the game, thusly wiping out my battle weary forces rather quickly. I reloaded and saved right before that point so I could just focus on buidling up an insane amount of forces and then initiating the battle. Still I died. Everytime. Finally, in one my doomed battles with the stupid thing, I had a large division of Hover MLRS set at one portion of the map for reserve that I forgot about. The rest of my forces were destroyed and the Core Defender was headed right for my base, so I ran the MLRS's down to face him (and to most certainly be obliterated). They reached him just as the Defender got through leveling the outer portion of my base and was standing on the bridge in the middle picking off a few guardian infantry. The MLRSs surrounded the bridge while hovering over the water and just let loose on him. To my surprise, the bridge started to crumble and fell apart sinking the Defender like so much scrap metal. I thought myself pretty stupid for not thinking of that earlier.
Also, the DarkSims from Perfect Dark, while not bosses, are harder than almost any AI controlled first person shooter enemy ever.
Cpt_Zach
11-10-2003, 05:22 PM
Also, the DarkSims from Perfect Dark, while not bosses, are harder than almost any AI controlled first person shooter enemy ever.
I thought the perfect Sims were pretty tough, as well. If you played flawlessly, you could kill them, but that was the only way. The Darksims, if I remember corectly, they cheated. They seemed to be able to run faster than me and do other things I could not. Perhaps I am not remembering this perfectly, though.
Warmech
11-20-2003, 10:12 PM
Forgot one. Bloodbane from Valkryie Profile. That dragon was kicked my ass a couple of times.
Gai from Bangai-O sucked major. Must've taken me 20+ tries to finally nail him...once I got his pattern down though, it wasn't too bad. I have yet to think of a boss that I absolutely gave up trying to beat. But Vagrant Story's last boss came pretty close, when I saw that I was doing 1 damage each attack.
Eccles
11-22-2003, 11:29 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~andydthorley/Headdy_End.JPG
The CEO of treasure INC
Refelos
11-22-2003, 11:33 PM
what the hell game is that?
D&D:tower of doom. no boss in particular was hard but 4 or more of those fire breathing hell hounds at 1 time would cost me $2 or more at a quarter a play
KaelitioN
11-22-2003, 11:42 PM
Maybe this was already mentioned before ( I haven't had the chance to read all 80-somethin pages ) but my hardest boss of all time was Maya from ParasiteEve in the Chrysler Building.
Eccles
11-22-2003, 11:55 PM
what the hell game is that?
Dynamite Headdy.
That's the hidden boss...
Wheel Of Jonus
11-23-2003, 04:13 AM
Also, the DarkSims from Perfect Dark, while not bosses, are harder than almost any AI controlled first person shooter enemy ever.
I thought the perfect Sims were pretty tough, as well. If you played flawlessly, you could kill them, but that was the only way. The Darksims, if I remember corectly, they cheated. They seemed to be able to run faster than me and do other things I could not. Perhaps I am not remembering this perfectly, though.
No, you're right. The DarkSims were able to do things that a normal player couldn't. The game even goes on to say that in the little scrolling description under the window where you pick the sims. Hard, so hard.
I remember now that I had a heck of time fighting Velius in Final Fantasy Tactics. The first Lucavi was pretty easy and wasn't meant to be too difficult, however, they must have expected you to be on some super high level when you got to Velius. He was a huge jump above anything else. Even the later bosses after him weren't anywhere near as much of a leap as he was.
Courage Of Lions
11-23-2003, 04:15 AM
Jason, Friday the 13th on nes. did anyone evey beat him without game genie?
Mr Fiend
11-23-2003, 04:39 AM
I remember now that I had a heck of time fighting Velius in Final Fantasy Tactics. The first Lucavi was pretty easy and wasn't meant to be too difficult, however, they must have expected you to be on some super high level when you got to Velius. He was a huge jump above anything else. Even the later bosses after him weren't anywhere near as much of a leap as he was.[/quote]
I agree here, he was a real bastard. Took me many tries to get through him. He's pretty tough himself, but the fact that he has those three archaic demons with him just makes things a nightmare unless you spend a lot of time leveling up before you got there. After him, the only really difficult boss was Elmdor when you first fight him (but only because Rafa kept being stupid by rushing out and attacking, then the enemies would attack and kill her before I could even do anything. Only battle in a game that I have seen where you can lose before you make a move.)
Karmageddon
11-23-2003, 04:48 AM
Jason, Friday the 13th on nes. did anyone evey beat him without game genie?
Nobody can. its impossible.
either way, i would go with that final boss from shinobi (PS2 version) whats his name? the dude who looks like a kid but is insanely tough to beat.
or maybe emerald weapon from FF7- not as much difficult as long. VERY long. hmm. well, i think the toughest one is that yetti from skifree. never got past him yet. hehe
Jedah
11-23-2003, 04:49 AM
FFT is one of those games that I play over and over again. The first time I fought Velius, my ass was kicked. He was insanely hard. In fact, my friend's first run through FFT was halted at that point because his party couldn't take him. Now, unfortunately, he dies within a couple moves. *sniff* But yeah, he just comes out of nowhere. FFT isn't all too hard of a game and Velius seems a bit out of place.
EDIT: Thunderforce IV, take your pick really. It's a game you play with gauss and vaseline on hand...to help afterwards.
mrmoeo
11-23-2003, 05:09 AM
Sephiroth in FFVII
*bursts out laughing*
Just kidding.
TheZipsider
11-23-2003, 05:17 AM
Someone mentioned the Biolizard from Sonic Adventure 2. The first time I fought that beast, I beat him without a problem. Everytime after that, he stomps poor shadow. I think it's because the game is a little glitchy, but I never use that as an excuse.
I think the hardest boss is the last guy on Teleroboxer for the Virtual Boy. Man, it was a hard fight getting there, and he was relentless.
th1rdeye
11-23-2003, 06:19 AM
Ahhh! Thank you for this thread! For years I have never had the chance to say this.
The last boss of The 7th Saga is the hardest boss I have ever fought!!!
I could not beat him with Game Genie codes and strategy guides. I absolutely HATED getting to him every time I died, because you had to travel LONG plains, facing monsters that could kill you in one hit and abominable music. Maybe the music wasn't so bad, but it got annoying while travelling so far every time to get to the boss, only to get slaughtered in a possible one hit. If anyone knows how to kill this guy, pleeeeeease tell me.
Warmech
11-23-2003, 07:04 AM
Jason, Friday the 13th on nes. did anyone evey beat him without game genie?
Well, you can kinda kill him, as in make him disappear from whatever cabin you find him in. But since he isn't the real 'boss' of the game, you just sort of play with him for a while until you get to his mother.
Mirr0r
11-23-2003, 08:17 AM
First off, if it hasn't been mentioned yet, SA-X from Metroid Fusion.
1) You have to charge up to do any damage. This is the only way to damage it.
2) When you fire at it, you do a tiny bit of damage. When it runs into you normally, it does 1 e-tank of damae. Firing it does two. And woe betide you if you get hit in the air, then it does three and a half.
3) Almost everything you have is useless. Screw attack and space jump suck because if you screw attack so does it. You run into it and do a tiny bit of damage, losing waaaaaaay too much energy in the process. Missiles freeze it for just short enough for it to shoot you before you manage to charge up. The only useful thing you have is the varia suit, which protects you from getting frozen. How fun it is to try to take on yourself when it can freeze you and shoot super missiles at you. Bye-bye e-tanks.
4) Jeebus it has a lot of health. The worst part is that when you finally kill it, it changes form instead of actually dying. I beat it the first time with about 80 energy left, and found out it had a second form when it landed on me.
I did eventually manage to beat it by getting it into an action loop allowing me to shoot it endlessly.
The other boss on Fusion that pissed me off was Nightmare. Let's see, one of it's abilities is to set the place to heavy gravity, meaning your missiles, your main sourse of damage, make it a whole two millimetres before they fall to the ground. Second, it makes you insanely slow and you can't jump worth crap, so it's nearly impossible to avoid it's shots, and worse, when it flies at you. Third, when I finally got to it's third stage, it was so ugly that it made me want to gouge my eyes out, which was detracting from my ability to dodge.
Next up is Omega Pirate from Metroid Prime. The main problem with this guy is that most of the time you can't damage him. Instead, you have to blow off four parts of his armour so that you can get into the sequence that allows you to do damage to him. This requires actually hitting him, which is a problem because 90% of the time he sucks your shots in and they disappear. So, to actually hit him, you need to either fire at the right time or fire at point-blank range. Trying to fire at him only at the right time is beyond annoying, because the right time is when he's doing another attack and you have to concentrate on dodging as well. Eventually, I opted for the second method. Apart from losing 3 e-tanks in short order from not retreating fast enough, it worked. Then the problems came. Two of them. In fact, they were two power troopers, which I wasn't expecting. So, I kill them after a brief battle, and what do I find? Omega Pirate's already most of the way through recharging his armour, and I only get one super missile off at him. So, I go through the prosess again. This time I think it was wave and ice troopers that showed up, which nearly killed me before I took them down. Then I find that, once again, Omega's regenerated his armour. At this point I died.
I came back three more times. Died twice, started getting pissed at him. Third time, I got lucky - plasma troopers came in on the first round, which were easy to dispose of. I hit Omega with two super missiles. Second round, I got power and wave troopers. Figured that it was more worth it to nuke Omega, ignored them, and killed Omega with a whole 27 energy remaining. I would like to point out that at this point my maximum energy was about 1200. So, now comes the fun part - getting to a save point with my astounding 27 energy. Fortunately the troopers disappeared after Omega went down or I would have had to beat him again. Made it to a save point with 13 energy by sparing nothing.
Apart from Metroid, there are a few other bosses that pissed me off. First, in EVO, I don't think that you should do 3 damage to a boss when it does 19 to you in volleys of three. When your max health is 55 if you upgraded everything. In Tales oh Phantasia, Gnome was annoying. Bosses should not be able to spend that much time invincible. Another one was the true final boss of Bubble Bobble. I had to beat that one with a turbo controller.
Wow, this turned out to be a long post.
Mirr0r
11-23-2003, 08:54 AM
And, as a quick folowup, I present some of the more disappointing bosses/parts in video games.
First and foremost: the first boss in Metroid prime, in the colony. Was this supposed to actually do damage? It was pathetic even before discovering the rapid-fire missile launcher.
Second: Meta ridley in Metroid Prime. I heard he was hard, so when I went to fight him, I was going to be ready for anything. After all, this is the game with Omega. I'm finally fighting him for the first time, and guess what? He's damn easy. Although I did eventually run out of super missiles, charged plasma turned out to work very well. I beat him without even needing the wavebuster, with 4 e-tanks left. (No offence intended, altough I'm sure it will still be taken, but it is really hard to die on Ridley on normal.)
Third: one of the times I was fighting the vine god-beast in SD3. I was playing as Carlie, at high level. I discovered that if I used great demon against him, doing 500-600 damage, he would automatically counter with Counter Magic, using his action. This was not a major problem, seeing as great demon dealt physical damage. I think you can imagine how that fight went.
A lot of the megaman bosses were just crap. Toad man for example - you wait for him to do his rain dance and shoot him, causing him to break out of it. Repeat. The megaman 1 bosses were pathetic if you found their weakness, because then they took about half their health per hit. In megaman x2, flame stag eventually got hilarious to fight, because you could beat him with 3 steps: 1) fire bubbles at him, 2) dash away, 3) jump back towards him and repeat.
Maybe we should try another thread: most pathetic moments in game history...
MegaDoomX
11-23-2003, 10:16 PM
Maybe we should try another thread: most pathetic moments in game history...
Sounds good.... Most people here could name alot.
Alot of RPG's usually have the "hardest boss" count because of how to beat them. Who would get my vote?????
Hrm....
1.Shadow Link from Legend of Zelda2: Links quest was pretty fricken vicious. I thought the blue armored knights are bad and now comes this guy after I went all the way through the temple and fight the thunderbird just to get killed.....
2. Coolex from SMRPG was murder without the that special armor. I think they designed him that way...
3. The forth boss in the Wily castle in MM2. Lose one crash bullet and your screwed. Not to mention that you had to plan how to do things. It was annoying is all...
4. Angel-X from MegaMan Zerowas pretty intense. That is of course, I used no cyber-elves. Man, he is the only guy that makes me rush and scream.
5. King Blue from Viewtiful Joe without Voomerangs on Ultra V-rated. BLEW MY BRAINS OUT. Talk about never-ending fight without mercy....
6. Overall difficult- The last boss in Abadox. I still dunno how you are supposed to beat him without any tricks or cheats....
Wipomatic
11-23-2003, 11:43 PM
Second: Meta ridley in Metroid Prime. I heard he was hard, so when I went to fight him, I was going to be ready for anything. After all, this is the game with Omega. I'm finally fighting him for the first time, and guess what? He's damn easy. Although I did eventually run out of super missiles, charged plasma turned out to work very well. I beat him without even needing the wavebuster, with 4 e-tanks left. (No offence intended, altough I'm sure it will still be taken, but it is really hard to die on Ridley on normal.)
What the hell? Meta Ridley is the devil himself! I tried about 6 times to kill the bastard with no luck(and each fight taking about an agonizing hour of pain and evil). I'm not offended, just amazed you found him so easy.
The really annoying thing was both our healths went down at about the same rate, one time, his health was so low one hit would kill him, but so was mine. I had just charged the plasma beam but he lept at me, I tried to jump but he killed me. I still hear Samus' screams at night.
LJU-English Translator
11-23-2003, 11:46 PM
Okay. I read up to page 32, and I had so many in my mind that I didn't want to forget them, so forgive me if they've already been beaten to death.
Paranoia Survivor on Heavy springs to mind, but I won't count that.
Technically not a boss, but at some point during Serious Sam 1, in one of the later city levels, you're running down this road between two walls of buildings, and literally HUNDREDS of skeletons come galloping toward you. Abso-fricken-lutely ridiculous.
Lessee...Indalecio (Star Ocean 2) was hard, if you fought the archangel version. If you've beaten it, you probably know what I'm talking about.
Luca Blight (Suikoden 2) gave me a hell of a lot of trouble the first few times I took him on. As did the wolf-thing at the end.
Ah! I seriously doubt anyone'll remember this, but Mr. Schneobelen (Pandemonium 2) has got to be one of the the HARDEST SoBs ever.
I'll probably be laughed at and mocked for this, but Duriel (Diablo 2) always, always, ALWAYS kills me several times.
One more. Level 5.10, The Gathering, on Hardcore mode. (Crimsonland) Is it physically possible to beat this?
Refelos
11-24-2003, 01:02 AM
And, as a quick folowup, I present some of the more disappointing bosses/parts in video games.
First and foremost: the first boss in Metroid prime, in the colony. Was this supposed to actually do damage? It was pathetic even before discovering the rapid-fire missile launcher.
Second: Meta ridley in Metroid Prime. I heard he was hard, so when I went to fight him, I was going to be ready for anything. After all, this is the game with Omega. I'm finally fighting him for the first time, and guess what? He's damn easy. Although I did eventually run out of super missiles, charged plasma turned out to work very well. I beat him without even needing the wavebuster, with 4 e-tanks left. (No offence intended, altough I'm sure it will still be taken, but it is really hard to die on Ridley on normal.)
Third: one of the times I was fighting the vine god-beast in SD3. I was playing as Carlie, at high level. I discovered that if I used great demon against him, doing 500-600 damage, he would automatically counter with Counter Magic, using his action. This was not a major problem, seeing as great demon dealt physical damage. I think you can imagine how that fight went.
A lot of the megaman bosses were just crap. Toad man for example - you wait for him to do his rain dance and shoot him, causing him to break out of it. Repeat. The megaman 1 bosses were pathetic if you found their weakness, because then they took about half their health per hit. In megaman x2, flame stag eventually got hilarious to fight, because you could beat him with 3 steps: 1) fire bubbles at him, 2) dash away, 3) jump back towards him and repeat.
Maybe we should try another thread: most pathetic moments in game history...
i dont know if you read the faq or not so ill save you the trouble and just quote it:
...dont be an asshole...
so there you have it. now go make an i'm new thread or something.
Robin64
11-24-2003, 01:37 AM
1.Shadow Link from Legend of Zelda2: Links quest was pretty fricken vicious. I thought the blue armored knights are bad and now comes this guy after I went all the way through the temple and fight the thunderbird just to get killed.....
What, it's hard to duck in the lower left corner and smash the B button over and over again? Heheh.
But yeah, I tried beating this guy "normally" at first too, and got my ass totally handed to me.
Warmech
11-24-2003, 02:29 AM
1.Shadow Link from Legend of Zelda2: Links quest was pretty fricken vicious. I thought the blue armored knights are bad and now comes this guy after I went all the way through the temple and fight the thunderbird just to get killed.....
What, it's hard to duck in the lower left corner and smash the B button over and over again? Heheh.
But yeah, I tried beating this guy "normally" at first too, and got my ass totally handed to me.
That works? Seems like he always blocked my low shots.
Mirr0r
11-24-2003, 05:50 AM
And how, may I ask, is that being an asshole? I would call being an asshole deliberately flaming someone specific.
In an attempt to not be an asshole to you, I won't argue any further.
Zelda 2 had shadow link as well? I need to play that game more. :D
As for Meta Ridley, I found out how to dodge his annoying lunge after losing a few e-tanks to it. Side dashing is wonderful.
I need to play more games ... I'm running out of hard bosses to list.
Permanent Marker
11-25-2003, 11:43 PM
There are a couple of them to me. But two stand out right now. Ultima Weapon from FF 7 and Lavos. Now some of you might say that Lavos was easy. That's true if you saved him for last. What I mean by the hardest is when you try to get one of the ending when you have the first opportunity to beat him. Oh and without beating the game first.
washudoll
11-26-2003, 06:15 PM
Saga frontier 2 the final boss...i dunno he had over 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999999 HP i swear without healing i tell you...
And uuhmm FF8 i beated that witch with LV 99 (cheats ofcourse) and it still was hard............
and a few nes game bosses with inhuman powers
Impulse
11-26-2003, 06:36 PM
Death from the original Castlevania usually handed me my head when I played the game regularly. Of course I was 4 at the time, but still.
And uuhmm FF8 i beated that witch with LV 99 (cheats ofcourse) and it still was hard............
I thought the final boss of FF8 was damn hard! I've completed most of the FF's, never with cheats, but I found a demo cheat disc with FF8 on it and I used it!
The Author
11-26-2003, 07:02 PM
And uuhmm FF8 i beated that witch with LV 99 (cheats ofcourse) and it still was hard............
I thought the final boss of FF8 was damn hard! I've completed most of the FF's, never with cheats, but I found a demo cheat disc with FF8 on it and I used it!
You poor saps that can't junction. I had all status and doom protection (Ultima) Then I had Life as a defense, and some other spell as an attack....
Then you use Cerberus, Aura*3, then you use the Holy war item.
Once the 3 first forms are dead, you reuse anlother holy war, or you just pummel the boss.
I apologise for my weakness, it will not happen again.
washudoll
11-26-2003, 07:15 PM
And uuhmm FF8 i beated that witch with LV 99 (cheats ofcourse) and it still was hard............
I thought the final boss of FF8 was damn hard! I've completed most of the FF's, never with cheats, but I found a demo cheat disc with FF8 on it and I used it!
You poor saps that can't junction. I had all status and doom protection (Ultima) Then I had Life as a defense, and some other spell as an attack....
Then you use Cerberus, Aura*3, then you use the Holy war item.
Once the 3 first forms are dead, you reuse anlother holy war, or you just pummel the boss.
Well thank Gamefaqs for that tactic..........
Ryke Sarr
11-26-2003, 07:20 PM
What? I thought the SA-X was easy as hell! If you go down to the bottom floor with it, and get into a certain timing with your jumps, you can dodge every attack it makes. I was able to beat it without taking any hits at all after the second or third time I beat it... No hard feelings though, I've had plenty of fights where I made a boss more difficult than it had to be (Ridley from Super Metroid, for one...)
The hardest boss I can think of at the moment is Krool from DKC2, or just about any boss from Mega Man 2-3. Mind you, these are far from the "Hardest Boss", but at the time I was playing them (Age 4-9) they were pretty freakin' painful.
The Author
11-26-2003, 07:23 PM
And uuhmm FF8 i beated that witch with LV 99 (cheats ofcourse) and it still was hard............
I thought the final boss of FF8 was damn hard! I've completed most of the FF's, never with cheats, but I found a demo cheat disc with FF8 on it and I used it!
You poor saps that can't junction. I had all status and doom protection (Ultima) Then I had Life as a defense, and some other spell as an attack....
Then you use Cerberus, Aura*3, then you use the Holy war item.
Once the 3 first forms are dead, you reuse anlother holy war, or you just pummel the boss.
Well thank Gamefaqs for that tactic..........
Nah, I experimented with junctions, I leveled up, got 99 ultimas time 3, 99 auras time 3 and all the spells at the highest my patience could last, then I just blasted my way to ultimecia. Mind you, my goal was the Omega Weapon... which creamed me...
Zero Angel
11-26-2003, 07:40 PM
Hardest fight ever? Would have to be the battle with (ultro's friend) the sneezy guy in the FF6 colloseum. Let see, the weapon to bet would be the 'Striker', and the prize would say '?????'.
I couldnt resist that offer, could '?????' be the ultimate weapon in the game?
So a friend and I spent DAYS battling that damned thing. I mustve had Terra up to lv.99 with a genji glove, gauntlet, and the illumina+atma weapon, and he would keep fricken sneezing her away!
Then we finally beat it, but were very disappointed when the prize we got for betting the Striker was ..... a Striker. :x
also -- 4 Fire Shields + Merton = Ownage.
washudoll
11-26-2003, 07:41 PM
And uuhmm FF8 i beated that witch with LV 99 (cheats ofcourse) and it still was hard............
I thought the final boss of FF8 was damn hard! I've completed most of the FF's, never with cheats, but I found a demo cheat disc with FF8 on it and I used it!
You poor saps that can't junction. I had all status and doom protection (Ultima) Then I had Life as a defense, and some other spell as an attack....
Then you use Cerberus, Aura*3, then you use the Holy war item.
Once the 3 first forms are dead, you reuse anlother holy war, or you just pummel the boss.
Well thank Gamefaqs for that tactic..........
Nah, I experimented with junctions, I leveled up, got 99 ultimas time 3, 99 auras time 3 and all the spells at the highest my patience could last, then I just blasted my way to ultimecia. Mind you, my goal was the Omega Weapon... which creamed me...
How long did it take to beat the game?
The Author
11-26-2003, 07:44 PM
Same as usual, 50 hours on a first go.
I have yet to see a game that can be finished any shorter if you want to do all the side quests... (although... I still have that freaky card player quest and the chocobo quest to do.)
washudoll
11-26-2003, 07:46 PM
Lol Chocobo quest...not even worth to try..Ride a Chocobo ok fun but when you want to get off he runs away..soo..whats the point?
The Author
11-26-2003, 07:49 PM
Lol Chocobo quest...not even worth to try..Ride a Chocobo ok fun but when you want to get off he runs away..soo..whats the point?
When you get chocobos from all the forests, you can go to the secet chocobo forest, and then hitch a ride to a secret card game area... or so I heard :P
Although I only have one more to catch, I brought the game back to my friend. I still have the save on my HD (it was the PC version)
Beatdrop
11-26-2003, 07:51 PM
Boy am I late, but I must say, I've never ever ever ever seen a boss harder than the final boss in Shinobi for PS2. If you've played him, you know what I'm talking about. That guy is freaking ridiculous.
washudoll
11-26-2003, 07:54 PM
Never played that one ..but i will someday...
How about the classic shinobi's........
Vortex RuneCutter
11-26-2003, 09:13 PM
Malroth.
Dragon Warrior 2.
Toughest.
endgame
11-26-2003, 09:56 PM
When I think about it, Omega weapon from FF8 would be a pretty damn good contender. The max player level is 100. The first thing Omega does is cast level 5 death. That's a pissoff.
Beatdown
11-26-2003, 10:48 PM
Boy am I late, but I must say, I've never ever ever ever seen a boss harder than the final boss in Shinobi for PS2. If you've played him, you know what I'm talking about. That guy is freaking ridiculous.
OMFG NO THE MEMORIES!!!!
*curls up into a fetal position and cries*
Warmech
11-27-2003, 08:46 AM
Same as usual, 50 hours on a first go.
I have yet to see a game that can be finished any shorter if you want to do all the side quests... (although... I still have that freaky card player quest and the chocobo quest to do.)
Eh, I wanna say I beat Wild Arms in under 40, and I took down every secret monster and got all the good stuff.
Golden Sun TLA: That blue wizard guy with the regenerating balls.
Chrono Trigger: Dark Gaia was hard if you didn't have Luminair, Flare, or a triple tech.
Terranigma: Bloody Mary, the queen bitch of evil bitches.
Of course, the hardest boss ever would be the FIRST BOSS of the most difficult game ever: Super Smash TV. I dare anyone to beat that game on the most difficult mode. Common, try it.
I WOULD list the Wolf God-Beast from SD3, but if you have Hawk as a ninja in your party he is the most pathetic thing Square ever coughed up. Speaking of the game, I nominate the Black Rabite for the Hardest Boss award along with Super Smash TV's first boss.
Z31RaM
11-27-2003, 09:48 AM
Not that he was really insanely difficult, but Johnny from the end of Testaments story game in Guilty Gear X2. Starts off the battle with all his coins, which makes his mist finer (damn good screen clearance and fast as shit) a 1 hit kill.
sandmann999
11-27-2003, 09:54 AM
I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned before, but Blaster Master, level 5. That stupid crab that shot bubbles. I had infinite lives with Game Genie, and every so often, my brother and I would give that game another shot, and we'd spend hours on that crab and never pass him.
Z31RaM
11-27-2003, 10:47 AM
Throw a grenade + pause = dead boss.
Chrono Trigger: Dark Gaia was hard if you didn't have Luminair, Flare, or a triple tech.
You are joking, yes? Flare is good, but you could do this without, Luminair was a load of crap especially considering how much MP it used, and you could do way way more damage to anything in CT with a dual tech and a single because the triple techs did crap all.
All you had to do was keep the hands down, LOL. Hell, as long as there was at least one of them down it was easy enough.
genghisdani
11-27-2003, 09:56 PM
Ok, I'm currently playing Metroid Prime, and I want to know, how hard is Meta Ridley, really?
I know that "Beating Meta Ridley" won the "Harder than College" award in the 2002 Nintendo Power Awards, but, is he really that hard??
Please give advice, I want to finish the game, but not if I will need to try fighting 1 boss 278 times.
Is there some pattern or something, so I can beat him on my first, or even second try? (I know that's probably not gonna happen, but I can always hope for the best.)
Eccles
11-27-2003, 10:17 PM
I I
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Know what they are?
Two I's.
Do you have those?
Z31RaM
11-27-2003, 11:00 PM
Meta Ridley = pantywaist. Just keep moving and remember that the wavebuster is your friend on his second stage.
Mirr0r
11-28-2003, 01:20 AM
If ya don't want to fight a hard boss in MP, then stop before you reach Omega...argh. That boss is only fun if you happen to love the sound of Samus dying.
Meta ridley, on the other hand, is a friggin pansy. If you can dodge his bombing runs and his lunges he can't do anything. And super missle first form > wavebuster second form. Plasma works just as well.
Mmm...plasma...
Z31RaM
11-28-2003, 04:04 AM
Wavebuster locks Ridley up in his pain anim when he's rearing back for an attack, which allows for an assload more damage, but unfortunately at a steep cost to your missles.
Lightbunny
11-29-2003, 01:06 AM
I know it's bad grammar, but this boss in unpossible.
Oh, and if it's been mentioned before, I really don't give a fuck.
http://home.comcast.net/~lightbunny/impossible.jpg
artificialist
11-29-2003, 01:15 AM
I know it's bad grammar, but this boss in unpossible.
Oh, and if it's been mentioned before, I really don't give a fuck.
http://home.comcast.net/~lightbunny/impossible.jpg
I never beat that guy either.....
Refelos
11-29-2003, 01:34 AM
only 1 boss in mp gave me a hard time. ridley was a slight pain cuz i was playing without ANY help but he only killed me a few times. what really got me was thardus on hard mode. on easy i got him the first try but it took me 4 sessions at 2 hours each to kill that bastard on hard mode. and i dont know why. now im entering the phazon mines on hard and dont really care bout omega cuz he only kinda pwn3d me the first time. now hes gonna really pwon me but i dont care. im not gonna play it for a while cuz i just recently got addicted to lord of destruction online after a much needed ram upgrade.
[/rambling]
GeckoYamori
11-29-2003, 01:36 AM
First encounter with Balio & Sunder in Breath of Fire 3. Why? Cause you can't kill them :P
artificialist
11-29-2003, 01:37 AM
Have you ever played KaaZaa? That RIAA guy is incredibly powerful and it strikes when you least expect it.
Refelos
11-29-2003, 02:04 AM
but you only have to fight him if you steal from the music man.
kinda like in chrono trigger. sometimes theyll even take you to "the trial".
talk about ripping a game off
artificialist
11-29-2003, 02:10 AM
but you only have to fight him if you steal from the music man.
kinda like in chrono trigger. sometimes theyll even take you to "the trial".
talk about ripping a game off
Yeah, once RIAA casts "Metallica lawsuit" level 99, there isn't much for a main charecter to do, except flee the World Map, or use every last ounce of gold to summon "Ultimate Lawer level 99."
ZeroSky
11-29-2003, 02:14 AM
One of the hardest bosses I've faced in the games I've played would have to be the PS2 version of Ultimate 9-ball in Armored Core 2: Another Age... >_< I lost track of how long it took me to beat him for the first time... Even the normal 9-ball was hard, but this was just ridiculous, especially because he wasn't anywhere near that hard originally, in Armored Core: Master of Arena... (PSX) And I had trouble enough trying to do it with Plus/overweight, it's completely horror for me with a normal AC...
Of course, others I talk to say he wasn't that hard, so I aparrently just suck. >_<
Have you ever played KaaZaa? That RIAA guy is incredibly powerful and it strikes when you least expect it.
LOL...
WRBC_Megatrends
11-29-2003, 02:41 AM
NONE !!! I use a GAMESHARK !!!!!!!!! :lol:
ladykaiyu
11-29-2003, 02:43 AM
The most difficult boss I've ever played against would be the SA-X from Metroid Fusion. However, I'm not talking about when you battle her right before the end of the game...I'm talking about when you have to run get past her in Sector 2, after you turn on the auxilary power...sheesh, she's annoying (and I have fairly lousy aim with the missles, which could explain a lot...^_^). If you want to know who I feel was the most difficult boss that I actually battled and not just ran from, I would probably say Dark Link from Zelda 2.
artificialist
11-29-2003, 02:51 AM
NONE !!! I use a GAMESHARK !!!!!!!!! :lol:
You know, I won a car race once? I raced a supercharged Mazda Millenia against an old Saturn, and I won!
It just doesn't matter, until you use your unaided strength.
However, I am willing to make exceptions with guys that are programmed to be 100% unbeatable. Then cheating becomes fair.
ZeroSky
11-29-2003, 03:00 AM
The most difficult boss I've ever played against would be the SA-X from Metroid Fusion. However, I'm not talking about when you battle her right before the end of the game...I'm talking about when you have to run get past her in Sector 2, after you turn on the auxilary power...sheesh, she's annoying (and I have fairly lousy aim with the missles, which could explain a lot...^_^). If you want to know who I feel was the most difficult boss that I actually battled and not just ran from, I would probably say Dark Link from Zelda 2.
Aahh... 8O I forgot about Zelda II... That game is hard... O_o After quite a while of playing, I finally managed to get to the Great Palace... took a quick look at that, and haven't played it since... o_O I keep thinking about it, but I know I'll die... >_< and I'll get that annoying 8-bit shadow of Ganon mocking me... >_<
*screams profanity at TV*
>_>
<_<
As result, I haven't even gotten to see what Dark Link looks like yet...
NONE !!! I use a GAMESHARK !!!!!!!!! :lol:
Pfft. Wimp. :P
Actually, I have a couple older Gamesharks that I use now and then, just for the heck of it, but I don't use it to pass things I'm stuck on... It doesn't really feel like beating it if I cheat at it...
Although I will use it if I do something incredibly STUPID, like deleted my fully loaded (in cars and cash) Gran Turismo game save... >_< I've done that with both GT1 and GT3, and I'm not about to do all that work again to get everything back... So I use the GS to buy my cars back... (still having to earn the lisences and trophies...) *kicks self for stupidity*
Ticadrius
11-29-2003, 04:22 AM
Mortimer McMire of Commander Keen 3. I hated that bastard. 315.....
The Coop
12-05-2003, 09:58 AM
I have found a new hatred... one which I thought I couldn't actually possess.
Ever played a lovely game called Guilty Gear X? No? Don't. Unless you want to be filled with rage, don't play this game. The final three bosses are absolutely THE cheapest sonsabitches you will ever have the misfortune of coming across.
Some ass named Testament, some dude with his eyes wrapped up, and an S&M demon chick named Dizzy await you for fights 8, 9 and 10, and they use the cheapest tactics. Three hit combos that will take two-thirds of your bar off. Ground attacks that knock you out of the air. Attacks that constantly get used and keep you at least half a screen away from your opponent 90% of the time. Special attacks that they seem to be able to pull off while they're in THE MIDDLE OF DOING A DIFFERENT MOVE!!!!!! You can't jump in, cuz you get hit. You can't stop blocking, because you get hit. You can't just stand and block, because their hits still do noticable damage even when blocked. Shoa Kahn wasn't as big a shit as these three characters.
Rugal in the KoF series could learn a few things from GGX's cheap pricks it calls bosses.
The Author
12-05-2003, 02:15 PM
Any boss from Sonic Advanced 2 if you don't use Cream.... Some of them are excessively cheap....
So I only finished the game with cream for now...
Refelos
12-05-2003, 03:43 PM
but you only have to fight him if you steal from the music man.
kinda like in chrono trigger. sometimes theyll even take you to "the trial".
talk about ripping a game off
Yeah, once RIAA casts "Metallica lawsuit" level 99, there isn't much for a main charecter to do, except flee the World Map, or use every last ounce of gold to summon "Ultimate Lawer level 99."
johnny cochrine, i choose you!
Serious Mr. Karate from SvC Chaos, Onslaught from MvC 1, Omega Rugal in KOF 2k2, Cyber Akuma from X-men Vs. Street Fighter, and Zoda in Startropic 2: Zoda's revenge, damn, just damn. And even though its not a boss, Story Mode in F-Zero GX
TheDarkSaxPlaya
12-05-2003, 09:18 PM
but you only have to fight him if you steal from the music man.
kinda like in chrono trigger. sometimes theyll even take you to "the trial".
talk about ripping a game off
Yeah, once RIAA casts "Metallica lawsuit" level 99, there isn't much for a main charecter to do, except flee the World Map, or use every last ounce of gold to summon "Ultimate Lawer level 99."
Pfft! i got nothing to worry about, because I'm not 12 years old! :p
Warmech
12-05-2003, 09:27 PM
First encounter with Balio & Sunder in Breath of Fire 3. Why? Cause you can't kill them :P
Actually, yes, it CAN be done. But all you get besides experience and crap is some Asbestos Armor, so it really isn't THAT worth it.
Im not sure if this has already been said yet but the hardest boss ive ever played was the Ruby Weapon from Final Fantasy VII. I mean Sephiroth is childsplay compared to this guy i mean it takes mabey 12+ rounds of the Nights of the Round summon. Not to mention all your party practicaly has too be equiped with master mime, counter, final attack, as well as all the other essentials materia but a while earlyer today i beat this monstrosity and it took me over half an hour. All my party was alive at the end as well (though i started with two of them dead) :D Now THAT is one tuff boss to chew on.
I have found a new hatred... one which I thought I couldn't actually possess.
Ever played a lovely game called Guilty Gear X? No? Don't. Unless you want to be filled with rage, don't play this game. The final three bosses are absolutely THE cheapest sonsabitches you will ever have the misfortune of coming across.
Some ass named Testament, some dude with his eyes wrapped up, and an S&M demon chick named Dizzy await you for fights 8, 9 and 10, and they use the cheapest tactics. Three hit combos that will take two-thirds of your bar off. Ground attacks that knock you out of the air. Attacks that constantly get used and keep you at least half a screen away from your opponent 90% of the time. Special attacks that they seem to be able to pull off while they're in THE MIDDLE OF DOING A DIFFERENT MOVE!!!!!! You can't jump in, cuz you get hit. You can't stop blocking, because you get hit. You can't just stand and block, because their hits still do noticable damage even when blocked. Shoa Kahn wasn't as big a shit as these three characters.
Rugal in the KoF series could learn a few things from GGX's cheap pricks it calls bosses.
P+K+S+HS. QCF, QCF+HS.
DESTROYED.
(I'm not sure what this "dude with his eyes wrapped up" is you're talking about, though...)
Newfie
12-06-2003, 07:09 AM
I'd hafta say.. When you fight those four fiends in a row in the giant in FF2. God damn! I quit the game cause of them. I got to the Water Guy and get my ass whooped.
Poiso
12-06-2003, 07:13 AM
Xan from UT was pretty tough...
Bucky Brent
12-06-2003, 09:01 AM
Xan from UT was pretty tough...
Yeah, I remember my roommate playing that when it first came out, and he got slaughtered about 500 times before he finally beat Xan (on the easiest difficulty setting too).
Doulifée
12-06-2003, 09:10 AM
aaah the famous xan. i train myself with him. i'am in god mode and him too !! (the higher level) it's very fun to upgrade your skill.
Okay the boss i remenber for being unbeatable is Indaleccio at star ocean 2
I have found a new hatred... one which I thought I couldn't actually possess.
Ever played a lovely game called Guilty Gear X? No? Don't. Unless you want to be filled with rage, don't play this game. The final three bosses are absolutely THE cheapest sonsabitches you will ever have the misfortune of coming across.
Some ass named Testament, some dude with his eyes wrapped up, and an S&M demon chick named Dizzy await you for fights 8, 9 and 10, and they use the cheapest tactics. Three hit combos that will take two-thirds of your bar off. Ground attacks that knock you out of the air. Attacks that constantly get used and keep you at least half a screen away from your opponent 90% of the time. Special attacks that they seem to be able to pull off while they're in THE MIDDLE OF DOING A DIFFERENT MOVE!!!!!! You can't jump in, cuz you get hit. You can't stop blocking, because you get hit. You can't just stand and block, because their hits still do noticable damage even when blocked. Shoa Kahn wasn't as big a shit as these three characters.
Rugal in the KoF series could learn a few things from GGX's cheap pricks it calls bosses.
P+K+S+HS. QCF, QCF+HS.
DESTROYED.
(I'm not sure what this "dude with his eyes wrapped up" is you're talking about, though...)
depending on the difficulty, getting a 1 hit to connect can be a whore. + no self respecting playa uses them.
Newfie
12-06-2003, 07:00 PM
No the hardest boss, hasta be my controller.. Yea you heard that right.
Its been broken for two years now. And I still play with it. Heh, trust me Xan is alot harder for me.
depending on the difficulty, getting a 1 hit to connect can be a whore. + no self respecting playa uses them.
Those bosses are not what I'd exactly call "self respecting." Desperate times call for desperate measures. :P But even without using the instant kill, they shouldn't be giving you THAT much difficulty.
Attacks that constantly get used and keep you at least half a screen away from your opponent 90% of the time.
Long range attacks might be able to put them on the defensive long enough for you to get in.
Special attacks that they seem to be able to pull off while they're in THE MIDDLE OF DOING A DIFFERENT MOVE!!!!!!
Called the Roman Cancel, dude. Learn it, use it.
You can't jump in, cuz you get hit. You can't stop blocking, because you get hit. You can't just stand and block, because their hits still do noticable damage even when blocked.
Also try to take advantage of the Faultless Defense which you can execute even mid-air.
Seriously, they're totally possible to beat. I mean, if I've done it, anybody can, because I'm pretty much the undisputed worst fighting gamer ever. Just keep at it, man. You can do it.
Warmech
12-07-2003, 02:19 AM
I'd hafta say.. When you fight those four fiends in a row in the giant in FF2. God damn! I quit the game cause of them. I got to the Water Guy and get my ass whooped.
Nah, they were easy as long as you hit Rubicant with Ice3 and Kainazzo with Bolt3 to do 9999 damage. Take those out quick enough and you should be okay for Milon and Valvalis.
Bowser in Mario 64 is a bitch when you're 11.
The Coop
12-14-2003, 08:35 AM
By a show of hands, how many here have played Beast Wrestler on the Genesis?
**counts**
Okay. Then both of you know what I'm going to talk about. The final boss is a little hard to figure out, not because of any complicated play mechanics, but because timing is everything with him. The problem is, the he seems to defy all notions of "you gotta be fast enough to beat him". Allow me to explain.
The final character you fight in this odd fighting/wrestling game filled with genetic monsters, is named Blenyd. With stats that are nearly maxxed out, he's strong, fast and has some nasty moves that he loves to use on you. There's no timing that I've found that's fast enough to pull off your move over his whenever you grapple with him. His move is almost always done (and it's usually a biting move or a nasty pile driver-like move). You can't sneak up behind him, and even his punches seem to have a longer reach than yours. Trying to get three falls on him is a big challenge and frankly, you need luck. Because the CPU wins 95% of the grapples and does a move on your monster.
He's hard, fast, dare I say cheap (just how fast do I have to press the buttons to be faster than him in a grapple?), and definitely a hard boss.
Furious George
12-14-2003, 08:46 AM
The three bosses at the end of Ninja Gaiden for NES. That was the toughest time I've ever had beating a game. Not to mention that you had beat all three on one life, and if you died at any of them, you started way back in the middle of that hard-as-hell final stage. That was back when games kicked your ass and you liked it.
Corporal Eschebone
12-24-2003, 04:41 AM
*looks at The Coop's posts*
...
Heh, this really IS the oldest thread on OCR...
EDIT: As for an actual contribution...
Giygas.
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What? I was 7 back then!
Xeero
12-24-2003, 05:46 AM
I'd hafta say.. When you fight those four fiends in a row in the giant in FF2. God damn! I quit the game cause of them. I got to the Water Guy and get my ass whooped.
Nah, they were easy as long as you hit Rubicant with Ice3 and Kainazzo with Bolt3 to do 9999 damage. Take those out quick enough and you should be okay for Milon and Valvalis.
Milon = Fire3
Valvalis (Wind one, right?) = Lit-3
Kainazzo = Lit-3
Rubicant = Ice-3
= Easy. If you don't know one of those spells with Rydia, you need to do some serious leveling up.
mrmoeo
12-24-2003, 06:49 AM
I just beat Homeworld 2. It was impossible without cheats, and even with them it was still way too damn hard. That entire game is like a nightmare of never ending invincible bosses.
Ferret
12-24-2003, 07:10 AM
What about that boss in Addams Family Values, the one you have to push off a cliff? I bet a lot of people never figured THAT one out.
Impassioned Havoc
12-24-2003, 07:10 AM
For me, it would have to be Culex in Super Mario RPG, with no Rock Candies! That took for-freaking-ever! It would have been impossible if I didn't have the lazy shell on peach. That's the only reason I even survived the first round. I almost ran out of royal syrups, too... gah, that boss sucked. It was worth it though. I could start breathing again after I beat him.
Also, Darth Vader from Super Empire Strikes back for the SNES. I've never even scratched him without the debug code... mmmm... infinite themal detonators...
The Emporer in Super Return of the Jedi can be pretty bastardly, too...
The Coop
01-01-2004, 02:30 AM
I don't believe I've ever brought this final boss up. And frankly, I'm rather surprised I didn't.
In the game Steel Empire for the Genesis, there are a few bosses that give you a good challenge. But it's the final boss that takes the cake in that game.
After fighting it's capsule form for a while (which is a fun battle to begin with), you then decent to the moon's surface to fight it's second form. It's much smaller, with slowly drifting asteroids that deflect you shots and offer it some cover... but none of that means it's a puss. Far from it. This bass has several attack patterns that change as you do more damage to it, and by far the hardest pattern in the final one... because there's no place to hide from it.
That's right, the whole screen from top to bottom is covered by repeated waves for fire energy that it fires once every two seconds. They damage you. There are no safe spots. They come faster as faster as you continue to damage it. And if all that isn't enough, the only thing you can use to NOT take damage is a bomb... which you only have a few of by the time to get to the end, and they don't do a whole helluvalot of damage when you can use them. You have to hope you have enough ships in reserve to out last it... and that's a lot of ships.
I love shooters, and that boss is one of the hardest I've come up against in a shooter.
BlueEnvy
01-01-2004, 02:41 AM
i dont know if someone's already said this but the Queen Metroid from Metroid 2 was pretty dang hard..or at least took a long time to beat.
Chadwick
01-01-2004, 05:04 AM
The final form of lumina in Brave Fencer Musashi..
Air Man
01-02-2004, 05:53 AM
I had trouble with ExDeath's final form in FFV...
Spool
01-02-2004, 06:53 AM
the god of destruction dude was really tough on legend of dragoon, but I also hated the Chmera of breath of Fire 3
The King of All Kupos
01-02-2004, 07:18 AM
Update: Just played Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. The Forgotten One is a pansy, but Death is almost as hard as he was in the original CV...almost.
Vince
01-03-2004, 11:34 AM
Shinobi for PS2! Must have retried 50-60 times over the span of a few hours to beat the last guy.
Swanky
01-03-2004, 11:49 AM
As far as I see, no one mentioned King K Rool from Donkey Kong 64. Five Rounds, and after every round it was getting harder, much harder...
I have never beaten him, so far.
Blumybah
01-03-2004, 12:33 PM
Mizar, got to be Mizar on the asteroid from Jet Force Gemini on the N64. Even with all the health and weapon upgrades, he's really tough, just one hit from half his attacks can leave you half dead. And the whole thing takes so long! The whole battle can often last for half an hour, and thats with you hitting him in his weak spot nearly all the time! I was damn happy when i finally beat him!
Trenthian
01-03-2004, 01:25 PM
when playing as reinhart in dragon force, madruk is a pain in the ass, because you dont fight much in reinhart's story, you dont get to level up much
its REALLY FREAKING HARD! SCREW YOU MADRUK
!!!!#EQHDF<HJ C<FX,m
Swordmaster
01-03-2004, 11:31 PM
The hardest boss for me was from Ghouls and Ghosts for the Genesis. The final boss on level 5. I mean, Christ on a bicycle, he was tough. Although most of my friends couldn't get past level 2.
I played through the boss at least 50 times before getting to his second form. Each time I would have to play through the whole game since I would use all of my continues to try and solve the pattern. I think I spent something like 2-3 months playing through the thing.
Toxic Soul
01-03-2004, 11:54 PM
The Dragon Queen from Dungeon Siege (only in hard mode, though) - or the enemies in the secret Chicken Level. They're pretty tough.
Diablo and Baal in Diablo II were pretty tough to finish off, as well. Xan was a fairly hard boss for Unreal Tournament, as well.
NembaTheKid
01-04-2004, 01:24 AM
Shinobi for PS2! Must have retried 50-60 times over the span of a few hours to beat the last guy.yah.
Bahamut
01-04-2004, 01:37 AM
i dont know if someone's already said this but the Queen Metroid from Metroid 2 was pretty dang hard..or at least took a long time to beat.
Eh, all you do is turn into a ball and mass bomb her once she eats you and it's bye bye for her...
dPaladin
01-04-2004, 03:39 AM
Update: Just played Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. The Forgotten One is a pansy, but Death is almost as hard as he was in the original CV...almost.
Death in the original CV:
HOLY WATER, DUMBASS!
The only boss in that game I haven't beaten without being touched is Dracula. Also, he's one of the few bosses that won't get owned by holy water.
...
Wait, is this that SAME hardest boss thread? Oh God, it is! Why's it still here?
TheDuke
01-04-2004, 03:46 AM
I can't say there are any truly impossible Bosses, and I haven't played enough games to find any that cause me a major problem. I am more likely to give up on a game because an area is particularly long and contains puzzles which get nowhere (I haven't actually completed Final Fantasy X because of a maze which I found irritating). Anyways, my list of a few problematic Bosses which I eventually beat:
Mr X [Streets of Rage 1 Syndicate Boss on Hardest]
where one 'whack' of his machinegun butt (irritatingly hard to dodge whilst being mugged by white haired punks) left only a couple millimeters of your life intact (seriously)
Shao Kahn [Mortal Kombat Trilogy Boss]
Charged at you repeatedly, bombarding you with a barrage of attacks - Had to jump over until he used fireball, then jump over fireball and use a combo attack up close (Liu Kang kick combo worked best)
Gross [Second from last Boss in Last Battle AKA Hokuto No Ken 2]
My life would be drained from previous fights and would often not withstand his onslaught. Was 'random' enough for me to never have figured a pattern out. Could fly at you while delivering about 10 rapid punches draining your life. Everytime I beat him, I had only the smallest increment of life left.
One game I did not complete because of an unfair continue system and murderous bosses:
Bosses of stages 5 and 6 [from Sol-Feace/Sol-Deace (R-type-like space shooter)]
Boss 5 would have you dodging between small gaps to avoid bullets from multiple moving 'bullet dispensers' and one huge laser attached to the same frame, and you were forced to stay at the bottom left of the screen while having to initially destry a ship making mini bots which float around waiting to collide with you. Normally if you died on a level you would continue at the start of that level, but if you got to level 6 or 7 and died, youd be taken to Level 5 again!
Boss 6 was a nightmare, firing a ring of bullets physically impossible to dodge, homing 'lines' which would trap you in such acute angles that you couldnt escape, and 2 *dreaded* yellow beams which would follow you around the screen and were so long, you barely had room to stop colliding into them.
[Yet the funny thing was, after the aforementioned murderous onslaught, you would have to get to the last level, face 2 bosses in a row which were also darn tough (I found this by using level select to check out the later Bosses), only to be faced with your last enemies - A wall where pieces fly off (possibly attempting to damage you) which was easy to dodge, then when the wall gave away - the final Boss appeared...
...and all you had to do was stay near the back of the screen, and do nothing, it couldnt get you! Make a cup of coffee, by the time youve drank it, the boss automatically wouldve blown up itself because you were taking so long - thus the easiest enemy in the game!]
There you go, and the moral of the story is: Never make games where Bosses get easier in later levels, it just sucks!
And they should have more chicks for Bosses - The closest I know of is when Trish is trying to zap you to death in DMC, but even then she wasnt a central Boss (she just backed up Nightmare), AND she joined Dante in the end!
The King of All Kupos
01-04-2004, 04:26 AM
Update: Just played Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. The Forgotten One is a pansy, but Death is almost as hard as he was in the original CV...almost.
Death in the original CV:
HOLY WATER, DUMBASS!
The only boss in that game I haven't beaten without being touched is Dracula. Also, he's one of the few bosses that won't get owned by holy water.
...
Wait, is this that SAME hardest boss thread? Oh God, it is! Why's it still here?
<sigh> Calm down, I know about the holy water's legendary cheapness. I was referring to Death without the holy water (I try to avoid using it if I can). As for Dracula, he gets owned by the whip, which is sad, and he just gets sadder with every incarnation. Notice he hasn't even been in the past couple of CV games. Poor guy probably can't handle the bad publicity of being a pansy. :wink:
Moose Of Woe
01-04-2004, 04:57 AM
Whomever mentioned the final three bosses from Ninja Gaiden (Nes) was pretty much dead on.
First you had to fight your father by killing an orb in the middle of the room.....this was easy and could be done without getting hit.
Then you had to fight the uber bitch- the JAQUIO! This bastard hovered back and forth shooting homing fireballs that did a piss load of damage if you hit either them or JAQ himself.
Then it gets worse....you need to fight a HUGE FRICKIN' DEMON summoned by the Jaquio who uses two statues to bring forth this bloody thing. Not only is it a demon, but the FRICKIN' HEAD of the thing falls off and runs you over halfway through.
All this in one life, mind you.....if you die (which you will) you start halfway through the pain in the arse last level.
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Golgo 13 (NES) was a pain to beat as well.....those mazes it had...blech. If you somehow made it to the end with your 99 lives you fought a brain in a bubble and....giant floating skulls that kept respawning....spooky.
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Zelda II (NES) Thunderbird/Dark Link combo= pain.
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OZMA (or Osma?) FF9- A big spinning ball that could randomly kill your entire party whenever it felt like it.
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JAWS- (Jaws, NES) Yeah...you killed him....good job. Now do it again. :(
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Final Emperor Ghaleon (Lunar, Sega CD) Very, VERY tough.
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Kid Chameleon- the whole game without a game genie.
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Omega Weapon- (FFVIII) More pain. If you want to be cheap and use hero drinks go ahead...other than that.....good luck. You even get a certificate of badassocity of you kill Omega.
Moose Of Woe
01-04-2004, 05:04 AM
Oh yes....forgot to mention-
THE JAQUIO! (Again) from Ninja Gaiden II! He is the same bastard he was in the original, only now instead of flying directly back and forth at the top of the screen he ZIG ZAGS around in a big infinity-like formation and has fireballs that have even BETTER homing capacity......ARGH!
battlecheese
01-04-2004, 05:19 AM
[quote="Moose Of Woe"]
Kid Chameleon- the whole game without a game genie.
[quote]
yeah i know what you mean. i can get through most of the first 1/3 of the game without dying(thanks to that special ability that increases your max hp), but once you get to those insanely hard levels where you have that big wall of drills coming at you from the left, its all over.
my brother actually managed to beat the game, but he only did it once. and it was on the real genesis, not an emulator with save states. kind of a dissapointing ending for all the work he had to put into it though.
Moose Of Woe
01-04-2004, 05:31 AM
I hear ya.
There were like.....100 levels in that game. (In fact, I'm pretty sure it was 100 even)
All you got at the end was like...a big arcadish- screen that said game over.
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More boss shout outs:
The BLOB in the 100 level maze from Lufia 2. (Snes) The Blob himself wasn't that tough, but you need to consider you've gone through ONE HUNDRED BLASTED LEVELS of hell, and are low on health/items etc.
Dracula-Castlevania 1, and ONLY Castlevania 1 (Nes) If you killed his normal form, you got to fight the bloody demon thing he changes in to. The PSX Castlevania is a toughy as well, they did a good job keeping the psx difficulty on par with the original game....for the most part. They took out the Frankenstein boss fight...now he's just a brief cameo pansy. :?
The BRAIN from Contra III on hard, because you beat him once...then he turns into a big grey bastard who fights you with a shit load of tentacleknife thingies as you escape on the chopper.
Olas Nich
01-04-2004, 05:42 AM
I dunno if anyone else has mentioned this, but I'm sure someone has. The Omega Pirate in Metroid Prime, not on normal, but hard mode. I still can't seem to beat it. Arg.
The Coop
01-04-2004, 05:46 AM
Update: Just played Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. The Forgotten One is a pansy, but Death is almost as hard as he was in the original CV...almost.
Death in the original CV:
HOLY WATER, DUMBASS!
The only boss in that game I haven't beaten without being touched is Dracula. Also, he's one of the few bosses that won't get owned by holy water.
...
Wait, is this that SAME hardest boss thread? Oh God, it is! Why's it still here?
<sigh> Calm down, I know about the holy water's legendary cheapness. I was referring to Death without the holy water (I try to avoid using it if I can). As for Dracula, he gets owned by the whip, which is sad, and he just gets sadder with every incarnation. Notice he hasn't even been in the past couple of CV games. Poor guy probably can't handle the bad publicity of being a pansy. :wink:
Wait...
Are you talking about death in the first CV game? Cuz the only weapon that's ever been worth a damn against him is a Boomerang with a "III" icon. He never comes low enough for the Holy Water to him when I've fought him.
Now Dracula in CV II... HE'S pathetically suseptable to Holy Water and the whip at the end (five seconds and he's dead). But Death in CV I?
UnforgivingEdges
01-04-2004, 05:48 AM
Ridley from Super Metroid. Damn...what a hard bytch. I must have fought it two dozen times before I finally got lucky enough to beat it...stupid bird.
Refelos
01-04-2004, 06:14 AM
kid chameleon wasnt hard, it just took 5 hours without stopping to beat.
the smith-diablo2 with a level 7 paladin
mr. x was a bitch cuz if you said yes to joining the syndacate you were dropped to zone 5 again (x is on zone 7 or 8)
i jus beat metroid fusion and none of the bosses were too hard, jus bash em w/ mistles with no regard to health.
the big headless 4 armed boss from eternal darkness was quite hard till you learned the pattern
TheDuke
01-04-2004, 07:18 PM
There is one Boss which is impossible (that is, invincible) because it is supposed to not let the game end. Play the beta version of Bare Knuckle 2 (known in UK and US as Streets of Rage 2) and try to defeat the Boss in the back alley at the end of the stage (named Barbon). He respawns continuously and will not die.
This doesnt qualify for hardest Boss though, because it isnt even supposed to be defeated, being a beta version enemy and all.
The proper version of Barbon is a walkover in the final version (even on Mania difficulty with 4x Life Bars, he's no big deal).
The Coop
01-16-2004, 03:27 AM
Anybody still have a 32X in their house? How many of you have the game Shadow Squadron? Okay. Your three listen up, as you know of what I speak.
The final Stage in the game is basically one long boss battle. You star out far away from the core, when two sets of rings comes away from the core. One ring moves out quicker than the other. There's 8 pieces in each ring, and in the middle of these pieces is a spot you have to shoot repeatedly to make that part of the ring explode. While you're doing this, any piece of the ring that you're in front of if firing bursts of four shots at you. When you destroy the outer ring, you have to do the same thing to the inner ring. Once both rings are gone, you have to hit several spots on the core that were activiated by the destruction of the inner ring. These spots also fire at you. Add to all this, that you're trying to do it quickly with a thurst meter that runs out after a short amount of time and you have to wait for it to recharge.
OH YEAH! I forgot something. You have a set amount of time to blow all this up, or the core fires one big mother of a shot and your game is over right there. I believe it's 6-8 minutes. So you gotta move fast, not get the living piss shot out of you and hope that when you get to the final level you got full shields... cuz you only get so much shield recharge between levels.
Oh yeah. It's a challenge.
GregHead
01-16-2004, 03:47 AM
Very sorry. I quintuple posted due to a weird OC remix error :( . I shall replace every post I've got here with something. The Capcom boses rant was the original
GregHead
01-16-2004, 03:48 AM
Sigma in Mega Man 4... I went through the trouble of beating the rest of the game just so I could get my ass kicked 20 times against this bastard. There's like these robotic faces thawt move around and then like Sigma... with a... laser... ugh.
I eventually gave up because I HATE memorizing boss patterns. I haven't played much of any MM, however, so I'm sure the rest of them would suffice for bosses. In fact, any freakin' Capcom boss will suffice.
Damn Capcom and it's "our final bosses take a trillion hits and have easily recognizable patterns but you have to manage to fight him for 15 minutes straight and only make a maximum of 5 mistakes or you'll have to do the whole thing over again and again and again!"
In short, I hate Capcom :)
GregHead
01-16-2004, 03:48 AM
All right, another tough boss is Maxx Unlimited from DDRMAX2. That guy's real hard on Heavy. And by guy... I mean song.
GregHead
01-16-2004, 03:49 AM
Two more to go... next I'll say the Chapter 4 Boss from Ikaruga (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/ikaruga/screens.html?page=55). It wasn't too bad in Easy but once you played on Normal, the game's main difficuly, things got really tough with this boss. You might even consider it harder than any of the final chapter bosses.
The strategy is to open one of the tunnels, enter it, and then feed all the laser energy without being shoved out or hitting a wall. It's hard to explain, but it's hard. Trust me.
GregHead
01-16-2004, 03:49 AM
And finally, the Nasty Gatekeeper from Dynamite Headdy for the Sega Genesis. I could probably beat that boss with relative ease now, but when I was a kid, he was very hard. His attacks were rapid and a little unpredictable. Also, Headdy starts you with no continues and you only gain 2 or 3 throughout the course of the game, so this guy can really drain your chances.
A Gang of Field Mice
01-16-2004, 10:30 PM
Ever hear of an old NES game called "Time lord"? It was actually made by Mattel. Yes the toy company.
Well. The game goes pretty smooth until you get to the 3rd level. While traveling through time you somehow end up in the wild west with cowboys shooting bullets up your ass from all directions. Well, if you manage to survive the level, you are rewarded with meeting the HARDEST BOSS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY! I KID YOU NOT!
Basically, the boss is this gigantic Mexican looking dude with a poncho, sombrero, and a six-shooter.
I BOUGHT THAT GAME!
I had the same problem. I even called a hintline to see what the hell the secret was. Eventually I got frustrated and sold it to a friend for 10 bucks. A few weeks later I was at his house and played it, got to Capitan Desperado, and after about a minute or so of shooting he just blew up into a bunch of little pieces. I was numb. Then of course, the next level was in some space age with laser-gun-toting soldiers who killed me within seconds. I snorted disgustedly.
For my money, the toughest game boss title goes either to Jaquio from Ninja Gaiden or the end guy from Ikari Warriors.
PlatformerMastah
01-17-2004, 02:16 AM
I haven't really read this topic, but I'm SURE someone had to have mentioned the third boss in Chuck Rock. Even to this day I can't figure out how on earth to beat him.
GroundTrooper1130
01-18-2004, 07:56 AM
Last boss on 7th saga...He takes your ass to school no matter how you fight him, every damn time ^_^ As well as Ultema On FFT
The Coop
01-26-2004, 07:48 PM
I can't remember which game it's from, but in one of the Serious Sam games, there's a boss in there that belongs in the list of bosses posted in here.
As you battle your way through one of the stages, you eventually get locked in a large open arena. What forms in front of you, is a small, blood red whirlwind-like monster. Now he's not alone, because other monsters from the game get formed along with him, and no matter how many of them you kill, more are transported in so that you never run out of other things besides the boss to fight.
Now, even that's not so bad. What gets bad is the little whirlwinds this boss makes. They can throw you WAY into the air, and the longer you last in this fight, the higher they can throw you and the more often you'll get whipped around by these things. Needless to say, when you hit the ground, you take damage, so that's always nice. Now, as the boss is making these little whirlwinds, he slowly gets bigger and bigger as you damage him... making him take up more and more of the arena and making it harder for you to dodge your way around him, the small whirlwinds and the other monsters that are being fed via a steady stream into this arena.
I lost so many times on that boss... even more so than the final bosses of the series.
Dinobot 2
01-26-2004, 07:49 PM
Trema in FF X-2 can be VERY hard unless you use cheap tactics.
ShadowDx
01-26-2004, 08:15 PM
Top 3
3. Emerald Weapon from FF7.
2. The Ancient Cave's Slime Boss (Lufia Rise of the Sinistrels),
and
1. The Utterly Ridiculous Boss at the end of Ninja Gaiden II.
'Gang of Field Mice', did you ever actually beat that guy?
Jam Stunna
01-26-2004, 08:52 PM
But I believe that THE hardest boss I ever met was that secret boss from final fantasy in Super Mario RPG, you know the one with the four crystals... I catually finished the game, used my last available save, did some level up above what I was to beat the last boss, and still got my ass kicked.
I agree, its either him (his name is Culex) or Jinx from Super Mario RPG
chokst~1.bat
02-05-2004, 02:36 PM
Mortimer McMire of Commander Keen 3. I hated that bastard. 315.....
Sure, it's too bad he never came out of that crazy machine! I always liked just running past Mortimer and riding the Loch Ness monster... :)
ProtoManFan15
02-05-2004, 02:49 PM
You want to talk about tough bosses, you go and play every King of Fighters game, and then we'll talk.....
The Coop
02-16-2004, 04:13 AM
I have found a new boss... and I hate the son-of-a-bitch :lol:
I rented Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II last week. There's a boss in there, who is absolutely, incomprehensively cheap, cold hearted and nearly impossible to kill... and this persons name is Mordoc.
After fighting through the Onyx tower levels, you have to fight Mordoc's number one thrall. That person is enough of a pain in the ass, but I found an interesting glitch that let me get past him without having to retry too many times. I saved the game and marched on into the shadow realm to fight Mordoc himself.
I'm thinking I should have just left the prick alone.
I got in there, he gave a short speech, and then proceded to bring the flagstone floor of that realm to a bright and wax build up free shine with my ass. I never once got the bastard down to half a bar of life. In the middle of the battle area in the Onyx heart (if I recall the name correctly). This thing is a great distraction as my character would keep pointing at it whenever I tried to use the crossbow I had... which made that tactic pointless. So, I equipped my morning stars and proceeded to run in circles with Mordoc as I tried to damage him. Now, as you fight, he keeps conjuring up a shadow image of himself... which heals his real body once every 7 seconds or there abouts. So, you have to run and destroy it. Ass you do, Mordocs real body beat the holy hell out of you, while the shadow heals Mordoc or any damage you did. While all this is going on, you keep getting a slo-mo spell cast on you which makes you swings take forever to connect and your running painfully slow... giving Mordoc all the time he needs to beat you into a mooshy paste. Add to this, that the melee attacks only seem to hit one out of every four swings, and what you have is simple an AI character whooping your sorry leveled up ass.
As much as I wanna rent the game again so I can beat Mordoc, I'm not sure those around me can take anymore barrages of swearing :lol:
I have found a new boss... and I hate the son-of-a-bitch :lol:
I rented Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II last week. There's a boss in there, who is absolutely, incomprehensively cheap, cold hearted and nearly impossible to kill... and this persons name is Mordoc.
After fighting through the Onyx tower levels, you have to fight Mordoc's number one thrall. That person is enough of a pain in the ass, but I found an interesting glitch that let me get past him without having to retry too many times. I saved the game and marched on into the shadow realm to fight Mordoc himself.
I'm thinking I should have just left the prick alone.
I got in there, he gave a short speech, and then proceded to bring the flagstone floor of that realm to a bright and wax build up free shine with my ass. I never once got the bastard down to half a bar of life. In the middle of the battle area in the Onyx heart (if I recall the name correctly). This thing is a great distraction as my character would keep pointing at it whenever I tried to use the crossbow I had... which made that tactic pointless. So, I equipped my morning stars and proceeded to run in circles with Mordoc as I tried to damage him. Now, as you fight, he keeps conjuring up a shadow image of himself... which heals his real body once every 7 seconds or there abouts. So, you have to run and destroy it. Ass you do, Mordocs real body beat the holy hell out of you, while the shadow heals Mordoc or any damage you did. While all this is going on, you keep getting a slo-mo spell cast on you which makes you swings take forever to connect and your running painfully slow... giving Mordoc all the time he needs to beat you into a mooshy paste. Add to this, that the melee attacks only seem to hit one out of every four swings, and what you have is simple an AI character whooping your sorry leveled up ass.
As much as I wanna rent the game again so I can beat Mordoc, I'm not sure those around me can take anymore barrages of swearing :lol:
.... 8O
I coulda sworn you already posted this yesterday or sumthin...
blink blink
I need to sleep.
Xelebes
02-16-2004, 04:53 AM
I have been playing Clash at Demonhead for the NESand I still have yet to beat a boss in that game. The music is annoying and so are the bosses. Grrr... evil.
Ur-Draco
02-16-2004, 04:53 AM
But I believe that THE hardest boss I ever met was that secret boss from final fantasy in Super Mario RPG, you know the one with the four crystals... I catually finished the game, used my last available save, did some level up above what I was to beat the last boss, and still got my ass kicked.
I agree, its either him (his name is Culex) or Jinx from Super Mario RPG
Culex was such a pansy for me. I raped his ass hardcore. Smity usually gets to me, though. Jinx is hard, no matter what.
Ur-Draco
Brentley_11
02-16-2004, 08:20 AM
Well there have been a few hard bosses in my lifetime, but currently the hardest boss I'm having to beat is the final boss in Metroid Prime. No matter how hard I try I just can't beat it. Grrr.
Culex is a pain to me unless I'm uber-cheap and put the Lazy Shell Armor AND the Safety Ring on Toadstool, the healer/reviver of the group, and then have a magically/physically proficient Geno and a physically proficient/semi-magical(for jumping) Mario in the same group; a magical Mallow in place of Geno also works well. I haven't tried beating it without Toadstool yet(Peach? Yes, but she was Toadstool to U.S. players back then), but besides what I metioned there's also cheap item tactics you can use to defeat him as well. Other than that, yeah, he raped me pretty good the first time I went up against him. XD
Jinx? Blocked all his attacks, no Safety Ring required. Next!
Dagda Mor
02-19-2004, 12:40 AM
It only took me two tries to beat Metroid Prime's final boss. But the absolute hardest boss I've faced is in that game; it's Elite Pirate Omega. . . On hard mode. You see, you have to keep unloading firepower on him while running backwards, and finally you wear him down. Then he somehow warps out of there and you have to contend with several beam pirates. Taking them out is complicated because you have to find the right weapon, so I tend to just dodge the shots because Omega's attacks quickly wipe them all out. Instead I switch to the X-Ray visor and watch the three sites in the area where Omega will beam in. He will then star regaining his health, and it takes a hit from a super missile to stop him; he warps out again only to soon reappear at another site. That damage while he's recharging is the only stuff that's permanent. It took me a week to beat him the first time. But in hard mode everything's health is doubled (give or take). So it takes two hits with a super missile to stop him recharging, and he's still healing in between him; you're only getting in one, sometimes two hits when you used to get in four to six 8O . After two weeks of never getting him down to less than two thirds health, I gave up.
Aerospace
02-19-2004, 02:22 AM
Lol, this is lame, but I found Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts to be rather annoying....
Not only do you do it solo (AH CRAP CURE CURE CURE AEROGA!....NOOOOOO MY ELIXER WENT OFF TOO EARLY!)....but he's just a plain old pain in the behind :P
I think most of the difficulty was getting used to him though....after that it was reasonably easy...though he can still spank ya good if you're freaking out during a Sin Harvest.
Oh well, fun fight....all for a lame 10 second cut scene that really provides nothing interesting =/
I really don't recall many bosses giving me too much of a hard time...
Nyahahah...
I am the shadow, keeper of light. If you want the sun's power, show me your own.
-zap-
CRAP DULLAHAN!
One of the few bosses where I've ever relied on a pure blitz/suicide strategy. Summon the crap outta him on my first party (Ivan, Piers, Jenna and Ivan), hope he doesn't spank me too hard first turn....summon whatever's left...commit suicide, and bring in the second party.....and pray that the Random Number Generator gods are kind.
Not an easy deal when he's summoning Charon on you, one-shotting you with Formina Sage, DRAINING your health....attacking 3 times per turn...
"Dullahan uses Formina Sage!"
"Piers takes 690 damage!!!"
"Piers was downed..." (Wow, wouldn't have guessed)
ow.
"Dullahan uses Charon!"
"Isaac was downed!"
Geez, it got lazy that time...wouldn't even give me an ESTIMATE of the damage :P
Ooo, fun, the spirit of death embraces felix.
(Yes, I am playing as I type)
Ah, crap. This fight is over.
"Dullahan uses Djinn Storm!"
Ow.
"Dullahan uses Formina Sage!"
"Sheba takes 673 damage."
Hmmm...guess what?
"Sheba was downed..."
Next turn....
"Dullahan uses Formina Sage!"
"Mia takes 645 Damage!!!"
"Mia was downed..."
Hmm, the spirit of death seems to like garet here.
And there's charon...
-meh-
I quit.
DMC_Freak
02-19-2004, 04:59 AM
Hmm
ShadowDx Wrote:
1. The Utterly Ridiculous Boss at the end of Ninja Gaiden II.
'Gang of Field Mice', did you ever actually beat that guy?
Okay the first three Ninja Gaiden games we're just rediculously difficult and fucked up anyways!
like a Frakenstien boss? seriously that game is more fucked up then Shinobi ever got.
Warmech
02-21-2004, 10:07 AM
I've beaten the first two Ninja Gaiden games so many times they don't really seem like much of a challenge to me anymore.
I'll throw in my two cents for the final boss in Shadow Hearts. Man, that dude gave me hella trouble. My best friend was there when I was fighting that thing, and he was playing his GBA while I literally sat there about an hour fighting that thing before I won. And no, I did not have the best summon. I had crap for summons, so I basically sat there with Yuri and hit him and healed when I had to because my other two characters got killed real quick.
Spectre General
02-21-2004, 09:45 PM
For my 2 Cents the hardest bosses I've ever fought were Ghaleon from Lunar Siver Star Story Whom I never beat, It gets real aggravating listening to "Time to Die!" twice every 15 seconds for as long as it takes him to kill you too. and Zophar from Lunar 2 was even more insane I literally fought him for around an hour and I never could beat him, actually one of my friends beat him on his game and he transferred the save onto my memory card, cause the game doesn't end after you beat the boss!! Which is what makes Lunar 2 sweet!
Sentora
02-21-2004, 10:53 PM
If we talk fighting games, SNK's got the top five worst.
Igniz (first time I ever saw a boss infinite combo me.) and Orginal Zero from KOF 2001, Koryuh, that evil bastard from Last Blade two with four frickin specials that hit you anywhere and out of everything, Johann from Rage of Dragons with that damn cheesy throw, And Goteniz from KOF 96, not that watered version from Chaos...
elkano788
02-21-2004, 11:20 PM
Hardest boss? Try following the Zelda: LttP minimalist quest. Beating Ganon with only 3 hearts and standard equipment? IMPOSSIBLE 8O
BlueEnvy
02-21-2004, 11:58 PM
Death from Castlevania Aria of Sorrow............................if you're on level 10
Goonies
02-22-2004, 12:32 AM
In Final Fantasy VI, does anybody have tried to beat Kefka on a low-level game (I mean level 8 to 10)? You get :?, and :x and then :evil: and finally :twisted: . It's almost impossible!!!
SymphoChro
02-22-2004, 01:04 AM
Do you remember the final boss in the original Rygar? I haven't played that game in years, but ,as far as I remember, I was never able to stay alive longer than 10 sec.
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