All Time Hardest Boss

[The Coop]

This one's open to all game catagories. Now, I'm not talking about a game who's control was so bad it made fighting/playing hard. I'm talking about a boss that was just plain nasty, viscious, could take a beating and dish one out, and took seeminly forever before the bastard/bitch (both sexes are covered here :D ) finally fell.

For me, that honor goes to......

Mother Brain and Dark Force!!!!!!
Mother Brain from Phantasy Star II was a complete bitch to beat. No matter how many times you hit her, no matter the strength of the magic cast, you got your ass kicked in a big, big way.
Dark Force from Phantasy Star III gets the tying nod because of the exact same thing. It took forever to disable it's hands, just so you could start beating on its head... which was another battle in itself. While it was also a sh*t to beat to Phantasy Star IV and I, the third game had the nastiest version on it.

Special honors go to Death from Castlevania I... GOD that was an unfair boss...

[Dev]

Well, he's easier now, but I'm gonna say Mike Tyson in MTPO. The first few times you played him, he really took your ass to school.

[Btr'dSqrl]

The next to last boss from Ninja Gaiden. The one that floated around the top of the screen and shot homing fire at you. Goodness so difficult.

Btr'dSqrl

[dilbert627]

The last Mizar in Jet Force Gemini was quite difficult. Probably the hardest boss in recent games.

[harpo]

i would say the atma weapon from FF3. or maybe masa&mune from chrono trigger.

i've always thought fighting bowser the third time in mario 64 was rather tough, but i've also met people who think i'm either stupid or just a pansy for thinking that.

[Teknobunny]

Masa & Mune were pretty easy, and Atma weapon wasnt THAT hard if u drained his magic... The Hardest boss was prolly from Contra 3... the end boss... its almost impossible to do it without losing almost all your lives... and after u kick his first forms ass, his second forms comes at you while ur riding a missile out! (on hard mode)

[Native Jovian]

Yeah, Masa and Mune weren't all that difficult. I'd have to say the hardest boss... For me, anyway, it would have to be the Omnidragon from Chrono Cross. DAMN, that thing took a beating before it went down. And what with all the switching innate elements, you have to have a really balenced party to the the maximum damage possible. He was hard without being cheap (as in one really hard hit that whipes out/significatly drains your party). Actually, that can be said for most of Chrono Cross's bosses.

[dkhighwind]

The final bosses from Breath of Fire II and III kicked my arse pretty bad. Stupid deities.

[crimsonzeal]

Shinryuu from Final Fantasy V for the hardest RPG boss.

[Prof. Nutbunny]

Sigma from Mega ManX3 gave me a good spanking before i finally beat him. And the last boss(es) for Xenogears was probably the hardest RPG battle i've ever had. :evil:

[Hornpipe2]

Never got to the end of Chuck Rock - there was this octopus squid thing (I think) at the end of the water level (Stage 3? 4?) that would waste you by shooting crabs at you. Sucks that I never knew how to beat it, nor was I able to.

[crimsonzeal]

I remember in Soul Blazer, a long time ago when I first got the game, I couldn't beat the first boss. I spent days looking for that one swrod that could cut metal because that's what I thought you needed. Apparently I wasn't the only one, as I've met at least 5 other people that thought the same. I think the instruction manuel was misleading or something.

Oh, and most bosses in Metal Slug games can be pretty tough, as that game was designed to make you pump in as many quaters into the machine as possible. :wink:

[The Coop]

How about the Water Dragon in Lunar: Eternal Blue on PS1? I've owned the game for over a year and I've been stuck there for eight months of it 8O ! Or Ghaleon at the end of Lunar: The Silver Star Story on the Sega CD? On the PS1, he was a breeze compared to his first appearence on the Sega CD.

[Aureolius]

Ok no matter what any of you say, I know for a FACT who THE hardest boss to ever star in a video game is.

Ever hear of an old NES game called "Time lord"? It was actually made by Mattel. Yes the toy company.

Well. The game goes pretty smooth until you get to the 3rd level. While traveling through time you somehow end up in the wild west with cowboys shooting bullets up your ass from all directions. Well, if you manage to survive the level, you are rewarded with meeting the HARDEST BOSS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY! I KID YOU NOT!

Basically, the boss is this gigantic Mexican looking dude with a poncho, sombrero, and a six-shooter.

Well I fought him a couple of times and died after a few minutes or so, but eventually I found his pattern. My brother and I would sit there and keep fighting him, but we could never win.

Well, one day we were determind to defeat this pesky villain! We got to the end of the level, and began to fight him. And fight him. And fight him........Then we realized we had been fighting him for THREE HOURS on the same life! WE NEVER DIED! WE FOUGHT THE BOSS FOR 3 HOURS ON THE SAME LIFE! We must have hit him a MILLION times!! Pow! Pow! Pow! 4 Hours passed.......5 hours passed......still the same life.....took a few breaks.....took turns fighting....still the same life......HE WILL NEVER DIE!!!! HE IS FREAKING IMMORTAL!!!!! We finally gave up and turned the game off in grave dissapointment.

Well, now you know who THE hardest boss in video game history is. The stupid mexican guy in a poncho and sombrero with a six shooter. :evil:

[Aureolius]

Why do I start almost all my paragraphs with the word well?

[Veritas]

yeah the xenogears final boss really gave me a hard time...especially after getting all my fuel sucked out of me...i barely made it out alive...i think that silly looking pink thing saved me big time...

hm...what else...Dracula at the end of Circle of the Moon was rough too...especially since i went in pretty low level and without 2 cards that eventually allowed me to beat him...

the most frustrating would have to be the big brain thing (nil-something) at the end of half-life who kept zapping you to other places and you had to jump into these teleportation portals to get back (only they were situation on the ceiling or somewhere less than cooperative)

oh yeah...near the end of max payne was really rough too...you had to be a quick-save whore to get past anything --- turn the corner, quicksave, dive out and shoot in bullet-time, quicksave, damn i missed, quickload, shoot again, missed, quickload, shoot again, a hit, quicksave...

[Zeromus]

Me, dammit!

But since I know that's not true, I'll say last boss from Baldur's Gate. All but my main character died, and he only lived because of a potion of speed (or many) - anyway, that's what I say.

If not... me! *sigh* I know, nevermind...

Z

[po!]

Uh. The last boss in Snake Rattle N' Roll. It's a foot that jumps around the summit of a mountain.. Yes, a foot. No matter how much you lick it, it will not die. I never finished the game.

Yes, that game was wierd. (and had kwel music).

that's just what i was thinking! that stinkin foot was soooo hard... i never beat that game either, but that might be cuz the last level is also freakin HARD

oh yea.. there's one ore two bosses in FF5 that are really tough.. as well as FF Tactics

[GeckoYamori]

I think I broke about 5 controllers cause of that foot in Snake Rattle Roll and it gave me nightmares at night...

[Euclid]

Shinryuu from Final Fantasy V for the hardest RPG boss.

There are no 'hard' bosses in most rpg games... a simple way of beating most of them is just to train yourself to the maximum level and they can all be taken down easily... :wink:

I remember in Soul Blazer, a long time ago when I first got the game, I couldn't beat the first boss. I spent days looking for that one swrod that could cut metal because that's what I thought you needed. Apparently I wasn't the only one, as I've met at least 5 other people that thought the same. I think the instruction manuel was misleading or something.

As to Soul Blazer... i know nothing about Jap and i had the Jap version of it (it's called Soul Blader there)... i had to play through the whole game without any game guides, only the instruction manual :oops: . It took me A LONG TIME to beat the game but i'm pretty sure i beat(and found) the first boss on my first time playing it. :D

[Vortex]

Rockman and Forte (Megaman game in Japan that never made it to the US, last one on SNES). In one of the "castle" levels after you beat all he robots, there was this flying tank-like thing that you had to fight while continually jumping on little tiny platforms that raised out of the bottom of the screen one by one, then fell just as the next one was rising. To make things worse, the boss had this laser that could knock you off and it also shot these little bubble things... if you touched them, the whole screen would flash white for a second so you COULDNT SEE WHAT YOU WERE DOING. You could only hit the thing in one little tiny spot too. Goddamn that thing was hard.

Come to think if it, that entire game was damn near impossible.

[His Divine Shadow]

Super Drunk at the end of Bubble Bobble always cleans my clock. Maybe it's because the rare times I actually get to him, I don't have enough lives left to get his pattern. Whatever, he always puts the boot in.

HDS

[Aureolius]

I don't see why people are still posting because I alraedy said who the hardest boss in Video game history is. :P

[Yusaku999]

For me, the hardest boss I had to fight was the first boss, on Dr. Wiley's first stage of Mega Man. (the first one.)

I coudln't beat him. I never used the "select cheat" either.
-J

[Lord Exor]

You must be doing something wrong with this mexican guy. No boss is impossible...

[tri-emplem]

Hardest boss ... I'll go with ... huh ... Nereid from Tales of Destiny II.

... they should have made it easier for you to pull off that divine thingy ... I had to kill her six times before I actually protected myself from that auto-kill-end-life thing.

:(

[Euclid]

You must be doing something wrong with this mexican guy. No boss is impossible...

He's right, if a boss IS impossible then it ISN'T a game :lol:

[dkhighwind]

You must be doing something wrong with this mexican guy. No boss is impossible...

He's right, if a boss IS impossible then it ISN'T a game :lol:

Hmm. My brother was a master at RPGs. He discovered that multiple bosses were literally impossible if you were not a high enough level. On multiple occasions, he would fight a boss, do a crap load of damage, and finally die. Next, he would gain something like a single level, fight the boss again, do only half as much damage as he did before (he was good at mental math), and that would kill the boss.

Some bosses are impossible unless you do some frargin' trick- in the case of Dragon Warriors II and III (or was it IV?), you had to be certain levels before bosses would die.

[Geiger]

Hrdest boss? BOB THE GOLDFISH FROM EARTWORM JIM 2!! :lol:
But seriously, folks, the hardest bosses I've come accross are DR. Wily from Mega Man 4 (that big flying skull tank thing), the last boss in Bionic Commando, and the LA Lakers in NBA Show Time for Dreamcast (Kobe Bryant is such a bitch!)

[GeckoYamori]

You thought Dr. Wily was hard in MM4? Figh Dr. Wily in MM7.

[Meiguoren]

The hardest bosses I have ever come across have been Chaos from the first Final Fantasy (2000 hit points and liberal user of magic that FULLY restores him) and Zoda from both StarTropics games. While he was rough in the first one, he's even harder in the second. I haven't been able to beat the second one yet.

And then there's the old standby, almost any form of Dracula from Castlevania (the exceptions being Castlevania II and Symphony of the Night).

[Legion303]

Well, now you know who THE hardest boss in video game history is. The stupid mexican guy in a poncho and sombrero with a six shooter. :evil:

You're supposed to shoot that varmint in the back.

-steve

[Legion303]

The hardest boss for me would have to be Miguel in Chrono Cross. Of course, that's because I have two black innates in the party and his two whitey spells in a row usually kill both of them immediately.

So far the EASIEST boss I've seen would have to be Shaft from Castlevania SOTN, especially if you're equipped with the



*SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER*



...shield rod and the right shield.

-steve

[dkhighwind]

Well, now you know who THE hardest boss in video game history is. The stupid mexican guy in a poncho and sombrero with a six shooter. :evil:

You're supposed to shoot that varmint in the back.

-steve

Tsk tsk tsk, didn't they learn anything from Back to the Future 3?

[lefty]

There are no 'hard' bosses in most rpg games... a simple way of beating most of them is just to train yourself to the maximum level and they can all be taken down easily... :wink:

ahh man i think i have to dispute this one. probabally the hardest boss i have ever faced (and thats me not everyone else) would probabally be ultimecia from ff8, until i figured out that you have to use lionheart, and the aura spell...normaly i would agree with euclid, but when i went to fight ultemicia the first time, i had all three guy characters leveled up to 100 (i didnt really use the chicks) and in the end it got down to just zell & irvine. i kept using limit breaks on her bitch ass, because she kept doing the attack that gets you down to 1 hp, and after like 30 min of this, she still wasnt dead, and she killed me off. i eventually finished the job.

oh also i think we must make mention of the last two bosses in parasite eve (eve and her baby). damn all those transformations drove me nuts in that game. just when you think everythings over, they transform again! i remember when i got to the point where i had to get off the ship or whatever so that i wouldnt get killed by the boiler room explosion, my dad wanted to talk to me about something, so i let the game sit in the middle of some dialogue, thinking it wouldnt progress, cause i wasnt pressing anything. about 10 min later, after the conversation, i came back to find out i had died!! after all that fighting of the baby freak, I WAS GONNA HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN!! (luckily i had my action replay to help me out, 8) hey at that point i knew i coulda beat it. its not like there is anymore combat when your leading the thing around)

[lefty]

one more thing that i meant to point out about ff8's last boss being hard is that she levels up when you level up, so no matter what level your at, she's still a beyatch!

[GreatLeo]

I think the hardest boss of them all would have to be Ultima Weapon from FF8 in the deep sea deposit area with about a million HP and no knights of the round summon in this game to help you either. Its not a required boss to beat so thank god for that but if you wanted the most powerful summon in the game (Eden) then you would have to face him it took me a few times to beat him I tell you that. Also notable is the Emerald and Ruby weapons from FF7 with a million HP each but can be beaten much more easier with KOTR.

[Meiguoren]

The last few bosses in Final Fantasy Legend II were damn near impossible. It took me forever to beat Venus, then right after her is Odin with his pets (whom you must beat in eight rounds, if I remember correctly) then Apollo, then a tower climb THEN a crazy gun machine that was damn near impossible.

Oh and what about the last three guys in Super Punch Out? The old Chinese man and then the twins? Admittedly I never beat the old Chinese Man, but he had a stick and he's way too fast for his age.

[dkhighwind]

Super Punch Out was easy :) Once you got used to their moves, the enemies didn't really hold out. Hoy Quarlow wasn't that bad unless he pulled off his 12 hit combo thing.... But once you know how to block it (and it's variation), he's easy. Rick is a pain to get used to, but you can follow a pretty simple pattern- dodge his overly-elaborate attack, punch, super punch, then dodge his counter. Nick just takes some getting used to in general, 'cause he's so damn fast on the attack.

I like my 255-7 record, thank you very much :D

[Merid]

You thought Dr. Wily was hard in MM4? Figh Dr. Wily in MM7.

Wily from MM7 was nothing, but Wily from MM4 was a bitch! I was using Ring Man on him, exchange of one ring for one bar of damage. He had one bar left and I had one ring left and.....I missed. It pissed me off to oblivion. I've never had the chance to beat that game again since (this was like back in '95 I wanna say)

All the other MMs were easy, but that Wily was hard as hell!

[mystik3eb]

I'm hearing some pretty good arguments in here, though I mostly have to agree with the RPG boss thing. I've beaten every single "super hard" boss in all the FF's, and never had a problem with ANY of them. Yes, I'm talking about Omega Weapon (both of them), Emerald, Ruby, Ozma, Warmech, ALL of them. Dude, a friggen YAN is harder than any of these guys! I beat all these faggots my first try. It's pretty sad. I had more of a problem with that one portal-looking boss in FF5, I never got farther than that point, I could never beat him. Ah well, I will someday.

The secret boss in Gem's place in Illusion of Gaia is so friggen hard, it took me forever to finally beat that dude, and this is WITH full stats and everything. I spent nearly every herb and...AGH! I DID finally beat him, but it took me an hour of trying to get through the mansion witout getting too hurt, then just trying to hit him once every 30 seconds...agh, so tedious. Also, it wasn't really worth it, but...hey, beating these kinda bosses usually aren't, you know? =)

K, almost every boss in EVO kicks so much butt...they are so impossible....k fine, not impossible, but darn close...probably because I didn't spend enough time getting my character up...

Honestly, I usually find levels more difficult than their bosses most of the time. It was like that with the 2nd and 3rd Mega Mans. Ay carumba, I've never beat any of those games, and I lost my NES cartridges, so I can't play them on my SNES anymore...waaaaaaah!

[RuneLancer]

Ah... hard bosses...

I don't remember too clearly my experiences with the earlier final fantasies. Oh well, looks like I'll have to play them again ^-^

Final Fantasy 6: This game was a joke once you got the offering and a genji glove. No hard bosses in here at all. Even Atma Weapon was easy...

Final Fantasy 7: This game was a joke once you got KotR. No hard bosses in here at all.

Final Fantasy 8: I have yet to see the game over screen. I beat the Weapon in the deep sea place in two rounds by using Squall's limit. It was so dissapointing...

Final Fantasy 9: Ozma was a bit of a challenge, but nothing too serious. The rest of the game was hillariously easy.

Terranigma: THE GOD DAMN BLOODY MARY BOSS!! This was HARD! Especially if you ran out of rings!

Soul Blazer: This game wasn't too hard. The first boss was a bit of a challenge, but nothing to worry about. Most of the fights were really easy.

Illusion of Gaia: Again, nothing too hard here. The secret boss was a bitch to kill, but it didn't take me more than two tries before finding out how to beat him.

Chrono Trigger: Hmm... can't remember any hard bosses in here either.

Breath of Fire I: Easy game. Moderate challenge.

Breat of Fire II: Easy game. Last boss was a bit challenging, but nothing too serious.

I'll stop now. But I have to say that the hardest boss ever is...
...
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LAGOON! THIMALE! This boss is HARD!!! Yes, that's the blue rolling thing in the ice cave.

[Lord Alan]

Hmm... let's see...

Perfect Chaos in Sonic Adventure and Finalhazard in SA2 were hard, but only because the games were so full of bugs. lol.

The final boss in Shining Force 2... I forget it's name, but it was hard.

I'd say the hardest boss ever is King Gedol at the end of Sparkster (Mega Drive.) You think you've beaten him but then he switches places with you and it gets so tough and confusing! Great game though.

[Veritas]

There are no 'hard' bosses in most rpg games... a simple way of beating most of them is just to train yourself to the maximum level and they can all be taken down easily... :wink:

well, some games have bosses who don't have a level cap. so as you get higher in level, so do the bosses....in the end its a battle of wits...

[Veritas]

The hardest boss for me would have to be Miguel in Chrono Cross. Of course, that's because I have two black innates in the party and his two whitey spells in a row usually kill both of them immediately.

So far the EASIEST boss I've seen would have to be Shaft from Castlevania SOTN, especially if you're equipped with the



*SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER*



...shield rod and the right shield.

-steve

...crissaegram and ring of varda...the only thing sicker than a ring of varda is two...

[Scandinavian Gigolo]

Zyblor is our leader. Zyblor is all-knowing.


Thank you Zyblor for keeping us alive, by artificial means.

[bloodydust]

i'd have to say the true endboss of demon's crest. we're talking HARD. he had 2 forms, and you could only hurt him in one. and every time he switched to that form, you had to be quick and hit him, because he was making the walls, ceiling, and floor turn into spikes.

he was so hard you could only fight him if you had found EVERYTHING.

god that game rocked. great music too, deserves remixing.

[Enkidu]

I'm stuck fighting Zophar in Lunar 2, man is he ever frustrating me...

[JoeCrip the Gang-Star]

:twisted: I beg to differ that a boss in a game is impossible. The last boss in the Japanese Hard Version of Final Fantasy 4 is practically impossible, I've never done it. Yes, in Final Fantasy 2 US and also in the easy translated version of FF4 Jap, it was very easy and so was leveling up, but it was all impossible on the Japanese version. My people were like level 60 and they got slaughtered in one hit. Most Final Fantasy games you can beat the boss by level 40 or so, so I know this wasn't just a lack of skill or ability on my part. :twisted:

[Veritas]

i'd have to say the true endboss of demon's crest. we're talking HARD. he had 2 forms, and you could only hurt him in one. and every time he switched to that form, you had to be quick and hit him, because he was making the walls, ceiling, and floor turn into spikes.

he was so hard you could only fight him if you had found EVERYTHING.

god that game rocked. great music too, deserves remixing.

man i forgot about demon's crest...i had it somewhere stashed in a box...i wonder if i can find a rom somewhere...it was a good game...and that true endboss was CRAZY!!!!

[Veritas]

:twisted: I beg to differ that a boss in a game is impossible. The last boss in the Japanese Hard Version of Final Fantasy 4 is practically impossible, I've never done it. Yes, in Final Fantasy 2 US and also in the easy translated version of FF4 Jap, it was very easy and so was leveling up, but it was all impossible on the Japanese version. My people were like level 60 and they got slaughtered in one hit. Most Final Fantasy games you can beat the boss by level 40 or so, so I know this wasn't just a lack of skill or ability on my part. :twisted:

huh...i didnt have a problem with the ff4 boss in either game (zerometh or zerotith or something?) true, the japanese hard version was a bit more difficult and i had to use a good number of pheonix downs through out the game, but that last boss wasn't impossible...you just have to manage your casualities -- i had kain jump every time so he'll be the guy with full health after he lands so he can pheonix down if somebody died, and rosa became a full time nurse most of the time...but it wasn't THAT hard...
i had more trouble with fighting the boss right after ashura in the monster village or something (sorry i cant remember...its been a while....was it leviathan?)

[Beatdrop]

Emerald Weapon from FF7.

Oh my god.

[Teknobunny]

Emerald Weapon in FF7 wasnt that bad if u managed your characters so they had 7777 life when the battle started, and if you had cloud with omnislash ready, Red XIII with Stardust ready, and any other character who had either Knights of the Round or who had the Meteor 2 spell i think itr was with the double supporting materia so he would cast it twice in a row.

[crimsonzeal]

About SoulBlazer: Yeah, the game really was easy, but hell, I was like 9 at the time and thought I need that damn sword because he kept turning metal. Cut me some slack here. :wink:

And yes, RPG bosses CAN be hard. Unless you've got absolutely no life what-so-ever, I very seriously doubt you'd be at level 99 by the time you reach the end in FF5. I was at 35 myself. Shinryuu tore me apart, especially since I didn't have Coral rings on and the intial attack did 8000 damage to all.

It's bad enough that they made a powerful bastard like him, but it's even worse that he's hidden in a GODDAMN treasure box! Grrr...

Anyway, whether it's a RPG or action boss, if it's difficult, it'll take time to overcome either way... whether by leveling up or by learning patterns. So they can be equally difficult. Different... but equal.

[RuneLancer]

Emerald Weapon from FF7.

Oh my god.
That wasn't a challenge, that was just dumb... Anyone can make a game and throw in a boss with the max amount of hp and best spells in the game. Even so, it was easy to take Emerald down if you had KotR :P

[GreatLeo]

Emerald and Ruby from FF7 are quite easy when you have KOTR. Combine that with W-Summon and then have all the characters mimic that. I remember each member of my party had a master magic, master summon and master command going into the battles with the weapons so yeah it was too easy.

[Omnitrix]

The Last boss in Narc Oh man

[Wonder_Hamster]

Oh yeah, Mr. Big from Narc.
Jesus Christ what was up with this guy?!
He wasn't so bad in his high-powered super wheelchair of death, but when he's that humongous fucking head that shoots tongues at you, he's a real pain in the ass. I still can't beat him.

[Omnitrix]

theres a trick to beating all of them, Nerd

[mystik3eb]

Well...they are easy...and I don't think I'm a nerd. Either they're really easy, or I'm really good at these games...take your pick :D

The hidden boss in chrono cross...actually I'm about to fight him...he sounds really easy, I'll update when I'm done.

And Emerald Weapon is a total joke...he hurt me ONCE, and BARELY hurt me at all at that!

[Senescence]

I think that in the game Time Lord, I beat the Mexican guy...granted my memory may be tricking me here. I think you have to use a single gun, and do NOT swith guns or whatever weapon during the fight. I am gonna go back and play it again just to make sure that I am not a bastard of a liar.

[Merid]

About Emerald Weapon....

Cloud, Ultima Weapon, Omnislash, Mime...

nuff said...

[Senescence]

I just played Time Lord, and ladies and gentlemen...I beat the fat mexican guy. It took me about 10 minutes, but you stand to the right middle of the screen and fire with ONE gun...the pistol, and only the pistol, til' his chubby Vato ass explodes! Thank you folks, thank you, I do accept donations for greatness (I had to gloat...WHAT?) :o

[crimsonzeal]

About Emerald Weapon....

Cloud, Ultima Weapon, Omnislash, Mime...

nuff said...

Except you can't Mime limit breaks. :P

[The Coop]

Thank you folks, thank you, I do accept donations for greatness (I had to gloat...WHAT?)

You said, you had to gloat (WHAT?) You had to pat yourself on the back (WHAT?) You were proud of yourself out loud (WHAT?) You had to show everyone else up (WHAT?) You had to show off (WHAT?) You had to be special (WHAT?) Now what are you gonna do? (WHAT?) You gonna beat something else? (WHAT?) You gonna show off again? (WHAT?) You gonna take on another challenge? (WHAT?) You gonna try and prove you're better than everyone else? (WHAT?) You gonna keep pretending you're special? (WHAT?) You gonna wait to see how long I can keep this up? (WHAT?) You gonna wait to see how long I can keep going with this? (WHAT?) You gonna wait to see when I stop? (WHAT?) When I finish? (WHAT?) When I'm done? (WHAT?) When my rant's over? (WHAT?) When it's through? (WHAT?) When I finally shut up? (WHAT?) When I finally shut up? (WHAT?) I SAID, WHEN I FINALLY SHUT UP!

Sorry everyone... it's quarter to three here, and I think I'm getting a little punchy.

Anyway, played Castlevania 1 again... I think Deaths incarnation in that game just moved itself up a couple notches. Cuz if you don't have the boomerang, and the "III" symbol? You're f*cked... :?

[Fygee]

In terms of fighting games, hardest bosses ever have to be Igniz and Goenitz from KOF, bar none.

If you can beat these guys on level 8 difficulty with only one credit, you're officially gods.

[Legion303]

i'd have to say the true endboss of demon's crest.
[...]
god that game rocked. great music too, deserves remixing.

If you're talking about Phalanx, I did a death metal remix of that stage that I need to re-record (guitars are muddy, drums muddy, bass muddy, basically it's fucked). If you want to hear the prelim version that was twice rejected (first two versions) from OCR, go here:

ftp://ocr:ocr@206.124.10.111

It's in "my mp3s/remixes".

-steve

[Samson]

The last boss from metal slug x(not five). man that wa hard, aliens kept falling from the sky while that damned u.f.o kept shooting at you....that was it right?
hm......oh yeah, Rugal Bernstein from king of fighters 98. just about as imposible as it gets.
The last boss at ninja gaiden 2. Last boss in the guardian legend was pretty hard as well.

[Euclid]

About Emerald Weapon....

Cloud, Ultima Weapon, Omnislash, Mime...

nuff said...

Except you can't Mime limit breaks. :P

I'm pretty sure you can... i beat the desert one with omnislash + mime.

[The Author]

What, everybody says Ultima weapon in FF8, what happened to Omega Weapon, I can kick Ultimecia's ass without using any other gf than Cereberus, and I can't last five seconds with that bastard.

But I believe that THE hardest boss I ever met was that secret boss from final fantasy in Super Mario RPG, you know the one with the four crystals... I catually finished the game, used my last available save, did some level up above what I was to beat the last boss, and still got my ass kicked.

Oh, and that whole level needed to beat a boss thing, well, I am pretty sure that when you observe the games of the old school, it was impossible to use this kind of algorythms, because the boss' stats had far less variables than the characters' and the proportionate evolution of a boss could not happen. If you lost, it might have been because you were not leveled up enough, but not because the boss was impossible... ... ... if you exclude the first encounter with bahamuth in FF3j, but that was because you had to run away... Anyway, the best example I can give is the 3 party battle in FF6 against Kefka, the first time I was beatten, without changing my teams, I just changed my strategy and I survived. With every boss, there are 2 ways to beat them, strategy or level uping.

But I can't think of a game making a boss impossible because the player was not leveled up enough, since games are made to be beatten.

[Merid]

About Emerald Weapon....

Cloud, Ultima Weapon, Omnislash, Mime...

nuff said...

Except you can't Mime limit breaks. :P

I'm pretty sure you can... i beat the desert one with omnislash + mime.

Yes you can mime YOUR OWN LIMIT if and only if the other two characters don't act. If you skip their turns and come back to Clouds, you can mime your own limit break. It's dope stuff!

[Ko Digga]

Sorry I'm late with response but I just now got to this subject.

i had more trouble with fighting the boss right after ashura in the monster village or something

Ashura seriously was impossible until Rosa got to the level where she had the "wall" spell. You just had to cast "wall" on Ashura so that her heal 4 would hit your party instead of healing her completely. Simple as pie.[/quote]

[Btr'dSqrl]

But I believe that THE hardest boss I ever met was that secret boss from final fantasy in Super Mario RPG, you know the one with the four crystals... I catually finished the game, used my last available save, did some level up above what I was to beat the last boss, and still got my ass kicked.

Culex, to whom you refer, was easy if you knew what to do. Make sure you get the Safety Ring from the Sunken Ship and the Lazy Shell armor from Rose Town. Put both of these on Princess and go into battle.

Culex and his crystals will quickly wipe out your other two people, but will do only 1 or 2 damage against Princess per round. The only attacks that you need to look for would be Dark Star and the normal attack, both of which Culex does and are only around 30 damage. The crystals matter not.

Just keep pounding on Culex, you won't do too much since the Lazy Shell armor drops your attack by 30. Eventually the enemies will start running out of Flower Points. The Blue crystal usually goes out first, followed by Culex, Green, Yellow, then Red. After Yellow goes, (Red takes some time to exhaust), revive your buddies and just keep pounding away on Culex, he'll be dead in no time. Simple.

Btr'dSqrl

[matus]

The last boss from metal slug x(not five). man that wa hard, aliens kept falling from the sky while that damned u.f.o kept shooting at you....that was it right?


Dude, ever beat MS3? 8O That game has some f--king hard bosses! especially the one where the alien head is connected to the room and shoots these huge balls one after another, and you can't dodge them all unless you are like one foot tall, which your not.

[Lem]

I think I'm going to have to agree with whoever it was near the beginnig of the thread; Zoda from Startropics 1 and 2 was a bitch to kill.

All RPG bosses aren't necessarily easy, but they become easy once you figure out a good strategy, which is the fun part. with most action/shooter/fps/whatever games, you just have to recognize a pattern, which is boring.

[The Coop]

All RPG bosses aren't necessarily easy, but they become easy once you figure out a good strategy, which is the fun part. with most action/shooter/fps/whatever games, you just have to recognize a pattern, which is boring.

But don't all game bosses have a pattern? This attack, followed by this attack, followed by this attack, and so on and so on. If it's not a flat out pattern, then it's clues that let you know the attack about to come... which lets you prepare for it and prepare to heal afterwards/avoid it/counter it/ whatever it.

Some patterns are longer, some are shorter, but all bosses have a pattern (RPGs included). Whether they're recognized quickly or not at all, is another mater entirely.

[Teknobunny]

The CoopSome patterns are longer, some are shorter, but all bosses have a pattern (RPGs included). Whether they're recognized quickly or not at all, is another mater entirely.

yeah but some bosses make their patterns hard as hell, even if you know it they make it near impossible to evade it... remember the red falcon boss at the end of contra 3 on hard mode? BULLSHIT! :x

[RuneLancer]

yeah but some bosses make their patterns hard as hell, even if you know it they make it near impossible to evade it... remember the red falcon boss at the end of contra 3 on hard mode? BULLSHIT! :x
Oiii.. that was evil... just evil...

The eyes kept coming. Then the spikey balls. The brains... agh... That boss wasn't a challenge, it was just... hell! x.x

[m68030]

I've been stuck on the final boss of Windows 95 for like two years now..
I've gotten all the secret items in IE, and unlocked all the Registry
features. I even did the side mission where you rename the folders to
get the easter egg, hoping to get an upgrade or something, but
the Kernal keeps kicking my ass. Hell, I can't even get close to it yet.

Does anyone have a save state or like cheat codes or something?
I'd like to finally see the ending after wasting so many hours on it,
because I admit defeat.

[crimsonzeal]

I've been stuck on the final boss of Windows 95 for like two years now..
I've gotten all the secret items in IE, and unlocked all the Registry
features. I even did the side mission where you rename the folders to
get the easter egg, hoping to get an upgrade or something, but
the Kernal keeps kicking my ass. Hell, I can't even get close to it yet.

Does anyone have a save state or like cheat codes or something?
I'd like to finally see the ending after wasting so many hours on it,
because I admit defeat.

Cheat codes?

format c:

Then you can see the secret "Non System Disk" ending.

Bwah ha ha!

Disclaimer: This was intended as a joke. If you are actually stupid enough to attempt this, Psychrophyte will hold no responsiblity to the damage done to your files and will reserve the right to laugh coldly ae your expense.

[crimsonzeal]

Yes you can mime YOUR OWN LIMIT if and only if the other two characters don't act. If you skip their turns and come back to Clouds, you can mime your own limit break. It's dope stuff!

Wow, you learn something new everyday.

Were Square going out of their way to make this game that unbalanced? Yeesh.

[RuneLancer]

Were Square going out of their way to make this game that unbalanced? Yeesh.
While I won't comment on the materia system (I still think that's unbalancing, but it's been covered already...) I have to say that FF7 was truly unbalanced. As was 8, but that's not important.

Four words: "Knights of the Round". ;P

Ok, what thread is this again...? Oh yeah! I'd like to add a boss to the 'hard boss list'. An obscure little Squaresoft game, Rudora no Hihou, happened to be amazingly fun. I beat it, then tried to get through it with the lowest level possible. I don't remember what I had but beleive me, the last boss was hard. H-A-R-D. As in, "please make it so that his next attack will leave me with a bit of hp" hard. But it was fun :D

[His Divine Shadow]

I've been stuck on the final boss of Windows 95 for like two years now..
I've gotten all the secret items in IE, and unlocked all the Registry
features. I even did the side mission where you rename the folders to
get the easter egg, hoping to get an upgrade or something, but
the Kernal keeps kicking my ass. Hell, I can't even get close to it yet.

Does anyone have a save state or like cheat codes or something?
I'd like to finally see the ending after wasting so many hours on it,
because I admit defeat.

There's a screenshot of the ending here - http://www.ntbrad.com/images/bsod.gif.

HDS

[omegaslade]

how abotu the ffx special bosses( i already beat them all but they were still hard) liek the guy in the water.

[Merid]

I've done everything in FFX and probably the hardest of the special bosses turns out to be the easiest. Ne-slug. He's a bitch if you don't do it right cuz he can rejuvinate. So here's what I did. Have Tidus w/ Quick Hit and the Calabrog attack the dude 8 times for 99999 damage each. Then have Wakka with the World Champion (so he can deal 99999 damage) do Attack Reels with all 3 slots at 2 hits. He'll do 12 hits at 99999 and cause the shell to break. Then he's easy pickins. If you don't break the shell, you're screwed.

Shinryu wasn't that hard if you have high Mag Def. That Shining attack only did like less than 100 damage to me. If you need magic def spheres, fight One Eye in the arena (species conquest, all the floaty eyes captured) He also drops Triple AP weapons, so you should have no problem leveling up your guys.

And That final dude, Omega Gold, only used Quick Hits. He counters everything else.

But yeah, the hardest boss in the arena is that Gel thing that does giant press or wahtever. It kept killing me. I managed to scrape a win ONCE!

[Vortex RuneCutter]

7th Saga anyone?

Vortex

[crimsonzeal]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot:

The last boss of SaGa Frontier 2. I mean, geez, the rest of the game was a breeze and then all of the sudden you have this really tough last boss.

Also, this isn't a boss but the Battle of South Moundtop was INSANE.

[WildTaco]

You guys have it all wrong. The hardest boss ever, bar none, was the friggin aircraft carrier in Top Gun for the nes. Go up? Go down? left? right? faster? slower? It really didn't matter, that bastard would take you down every time. I think maybe if you hit up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-b-a-start and then did a little jig sometimes it would let you land, but mainly that thing was just out to get you.

[Veritas]

hahahahahaha
yeah i remember that game...i never did figure out how to land
i just gave up and smashed right into it...
same goes for lots of airplane games...i have my entire crew bail out first before i attempt a "landing" or, more percisely, a slightly-less-than-semi-controlled fall; its safer for them that way =p

[Johannes]

Well ultimecia wasnt that hard really... not Ultima weapon (the one with eden) either.. BUT.. one of the Weapons in Ultimecias castle cast lvl 5 death ... not so fun when all characters has lvl 100...

ruby weapon in ff7 was pretty hard too... =/

[omegaslade]

Greater shpere was his name. and yeah i had a lot of problems wiht him too. i haven't gotten all the celestial weapons but i basically made wakkas and lulu's. any how omega gold was a wuss though i did go throught almost all of my aeons trying to beat him. but all the credit for helping me beat all of the bosses has to go to one person. DON TONBERRY. if it haddn;t been for him i would have never gotten any thing well actually some of the credit goes to one eye also for giving me my weapons to i could fight done tonberry but he gets the most credit. and as far as omega of ff8 he was a wuss in fact both of them were pretty much simple.but then again there aren;t any bosses as hard as the ones in ff 10 i mean come on 5 mil when you can only do 99999( which i like) that alwasy took a while.

[Bad Enough Dude]

Dude, you all forgot those stupid monsters in Cobra Triangle. Well, the first 2 aren't that bad but after that... Not to mention that to even get to the 3rd or 4th monster in that game is freaking impossible because of the icebergs. The reach the finish iceberg level is death.

[StriderYoko]

last boss in 7th saga,

if you ran out of magic you were screwd, and you can carry only 10 of each item, making mp recovery limited, even after strength increasingf spells mele attacks only shave off 1 melee point per hit, and it doesnt make it any easier that you only have 2 people per party

Mr Big, Narc,

The only way you have a remote chance of beating this guy is if you get to him with a full stock of rocket bombs, this means you cant really use any the entire game and you spend alot of time trying to collet tehm b4 you get to the boss. and if you run out of bombs when you get to him you are completely screwed

El toro, Wrath of the black manta.

When i was young this boss was near impossible, i battled him for over 2 hours and that result in a loss. later on i found out how to beat him.

[Btr'dSqrl]

Dude, you all forgot those stupid monsters in Cobra Triangle. Well, the first 2 aren't that bad but after that... Not to mention that to even get to the 3rd or 4th monster in that game is freaking impossible because of the icebergs. The reach the finish iceberg level is death.

Cobra Triangle is so freakin' hard. The one boss has one-hit kills for goodness sakes, and the shark boss you have to get multiple, good, solid hits EVERY time he pops up, which in itself is a miracle, because you will run out of time if you don't. So hard.

Btr'dSqrl

[DragonFyre]

This thread is really long, and I don't feel like reading one all of the replies, so I'm fairly sure someone might have already said this.

Who I think one of the hardest bosses is from Lufia II. I think it's the first time you fight Gades. IE, at the not end of the game. IE, in the middle. IE, when you're on level 20. IE when you beat on level 50 and he's semi-hardish. So, yeah, he's really hard. I haven't done it. But, you don't HAVE to beat him. If you lose, the game continues. If you win, you get a sword, the next few dialogue boxes are different, and you get knocked out anyway. (Or so I hear.) (Note, dying and still continueing only works the first time you fight him. If you fight him after you've gone up the three towers, and such, you have to win, otherwise you lose. I don't want to confuse anyone.)

[omegaslade]

hmm i have never played 7th saga what system is it on. and btw strider are you the same strider that did all thoses songs for mp3.com if you are thoses songs were cool i have most of them.

[last chancer]

7th Saga was for the SNES.

As for hardest boss, I play mostly RPGs, so I don't have that much knowledge of stuff outside of em. So I'm gonna have to say either the Dragon Lord from Dragon Quest (Warrior) 1, or Gahleon (sp?) from Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete. Gahleon isn't that bad, I suppose, but try beating him at a low level without that stupid energy reducing ring . . . 1 and a half hours and I think he was still at full life because of that @(*@ drain life from all party members / Recover life spell . . .

[Maagic]

The hardest boss ever was definately the Lavos hybrid thing from chrono cross for PSX!! Trying to get all those notes to play without him messing them up drove me NUTS..

[Veritas]

chrono cross was stupid...a massive disappointment to my chrono trigger roots...too many dumb characters who did nothing...and it hardly had anything to do with CT...
it had some great music though
hell the game itself wasnt so bad...controls, battle system, events and plot twists, (some) character relations...lot of them were some of the best i've seen...
but gosh the story telling was SO bad....and that last boss playing-the-notes-to-beat-him idea was so dumb...it was frustrating and anticlimatic...it would have been better if you got a supercool spell instead...the music was the only reason i played through it...that and karsh...karsh was cool...

[Eccles]

I think one of the hardest bosses ever is the sorceresses in FF VIII,
you know the one, where the scenery melted and you ended up fighting queen slug-for-a-butt off earthworm Jim.

[StriderYoko]

and btw strider are you the same strider that did all thoses songs for mp3.com if you are thoses songs were cool i have most of them.


Yeah thats me :)

[Illaminus]

I have to go with:

1) Final boss in Demon's Crest
(What IS his name does anyone know? (Not Phalanx, the one with two forms) In a walkthrough I read Dark Angel? But elsewhere I heard something like "Dark Demon".)

2) Mizar (the final time) in Jet Force Gemini

3) Link's Shadow in Zelda 2

4) Final boss of Little Samson (NES) (No not the cheesy easy one, the tough one where you have to escape after defeating him, you can only play against him on HARD mode) (Password for final level is "&&&&" )

5) Final two bosses in Tale Spin (NES)
*this brings back memories*

6) King Breager from Gargoyles Quest 2

7) Dracula (Every damn Castlevania game)


Also Sigma in MMX3 was a toughie, but done after a couple of tries.

The Final boss of MM4 is dead easy, just dodge Wily's shots and charge your Pharaoh shot while you run back and forth in the room. Wily gets kicked to hell once you hit him a couple of times. You don't have to shoot, cos the energy ball above you does all the work for you... If you're any good, you can kick Wily's ass without loosing life nor energy from the Pharaoh shot. (By pressing start between hits and recharging.)

[The Coop]

7) Dracula (Every damn Castlevania game)

PLEASE tell me your not including the version of Dracula from Castlevania II: Simon's quest. That version has to have been the easiet boss battle ever. All you gotta do is stand up against the ledge and throw constant Holy Waters. Drac moves right into them and as long as you keep throwing them, he's dead in about 20 seconds... if that long. He was a complete puss in that game and a complete anticlimactic fight considering the rest of the bosses in that game were harder.

[omegaslade]

also the dracula in castlevania sotn was way to easy i mean all you have to do was get two crissagrims and have a good level. i had him dead in abotu a minute.

[mystik3eb]

I hope your not saying CC was bad. It was better than any FF I've played. I just transfered from CC to FF8 and...omg...CC is so much freakin better in every way (yea even in characters...better to have more than nearly none o_O) Altough I must admit, having too many characters that you never used was a bit of a nuisance, however it's great fun to try to find all their final weapons and lvl 7 elements. Plus, you do use alot of them if you're really a good player, and it's quite fun. Pip rulez! =)

But yea, while on CC, I fought Criosphinx and, yes, beat him my first try. WAAAAAAAY harder than any FF special boss I've fought (I've yet to beat that stupid portal boss in FF5...but I haven't gotten that far in a long time...), but he still wasn't a problem. Try playing EVO...those are hard bosses. Or Illusion of Gaia, specially fighting all the bosses at the end with sucky Shadow, and the hidden Gem boss or wutever he's called...those're hard.

Anyway...yea...any boss can be hard (in an RPG anyway) but they're all beatable...specially these days where there's a faq or guide for EVERYTHING...also cause tons of these games were made to be easily helped with. Try playing Mario1 on NES and beating that first try! On the NES, no cheap GBA version. That's HARD. Just to survive is harder than most rpg bosses!

Also, I've had a huge problem with that one boss in the mansion in Tales of Phantasia...anyone identify this guy? =)

[RuneLancer]

Also, I've had a huge problem with that one boss in the mansion in Tales of Phantasia...anyone identify this guy? =)
Oooooh, that's way back in my memory. Is he the one where there's the girl (which turns out being Arche) and all? He was one of the game's hardest bosses x.x I think he could summon some crap-ass thing that would deal ~500-600 to everyone in your party. Cheap. x.x

[GreatLeo]

I thought the secret boss Ragu Ragla from Wild Arms was a damn tough boss to beat especially with his Volcanic Bomb attack.

[Dark Lord Seifer]

The ToP boss is Demitel. He's nasty, but not really the hardest boss in an RPG. I do agree that his Summon Lich is annoying though.

Heh, you thought Ragu's hard in Wild Arms 1? You ain't seen nuttin yet. Go play Wild Arms 2. I assure you even Angol Moa will give you a run for your money. There's no 255 item cheat or buyable Goat Dolls (There are 6 in the whole game). Good luck, cause you'll need plenty of it.

My take on the hardest boss? I'd have to go with the Egg in SaGa Frontier 2. He's the only Final Boss that I can't beat in any game. I got so sick of the game that my neighbor has just won himself a free frisbee.

SS

[Merid]

Is that the Boss that Liz and Ard made? Cuz that was one mother of a boss. Never beat it and now I'll never have that chance again (well, not for a long while) because I lost the game somewhere (I think I left it at school last year) and my memory card that had that file died.

[Veritas]

I hope your not saying CC was bad. It was better than any FF I've played. I just transfered from CC to FF8 and...omg...CC is so much freakin better in every way (yea even in characters...better to have more than nearly none o_O) Altough I must admit, having too many characters that you never used was a bit of a nuisance, however it's great fun to try to find all their final weapons and lvl 7 elements. Plus, you do use alot of them if you're really a good player, and it's quite fun. Pip rulez! =)

i am saying that CC was bad...but you can imagine what i'd say about the recent final fantasies, ESPECIALLY ff8...at least CC kept me semi-interested through the game...i got WAY too bored with ff8...
agreed, collecting some of the last equipment was cool! dual Einlanzers ownz you all! and MEGA STARKY too!!! hahahahaahha
the no level system of CC was nice too...it kind of keeps the story interesting and cuts down on the walking-in-circles for cash and experience thing...keeps it challenging too...but the story telling was really bad in CC...SO anti-climatic...good story, bad story telling like i say...and i demand to have a definate answer as to where magus went!
not all the CC characters had a purpose, which i didnt like...there was so much potential for that game that it never realized...the battle system was cool though, very streamlined and kind of xenogears-ish so you didnt get super bored -- i especially liked that field system thing...if you look at suikoden, of the 108 characters, a good number of them had some use, and not just fighting...so you have some incentive to collect some of the characters for your castle to make things more convienent and stuff like that...(well except of the woman who just gossips...she's probably only good when you forget what you were doing)
of course the worst thing about Suikoden was getting yourself clothing and sharpening weapons for your characters...very expensive, very time consuming...(thank god for gambling)

yeah pip was cool...(but mine got stuck at the level-glitch thingy :( fortunately my friend had a save for me right where i was so i didn't have to restart the game) and riddel SUCKS! sure go with the LOSER DARIO (who recently just got his ass kicked by me), instead of Karsh who really cares about you and is way cooler...hahaha

oh yeah the fight with Dario was the most difficult for me in CC...dario kept being uncooperative and killing whoever WASN'T wearing the damage-absorbing armor...

[Meiguoren]

The thing is that Chrono Cross cannot be compared to anything else. It's just not fair. Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger is Chrono Trigger, and Chrono Cross is Chrono Cross. Each game is unique to itself. In the end, Chrono Cross was nothing more than the answer to the one unanswered question from Chrono Trigger. But CC was an incredibly fun game, with incredible music and beautiful surroundings. It's one that I still have fun playing through, much like Legend of Mana. These two are two of the most beautiful games I've played through. It could also be the fond memories I have of the summer I first played them, but overall I don't think that either of the two games have any major flaws. And the only hard part was lining up the notes fighting Lavos. But I digress. And this is a major digression from the original question. But who's going to stop us?

[DarknessTear]

also the dracula in castlevania sotn was way to easy i mean all you have to do was get two crissagrims and have a good level. i had him dead in abotu a minute.

I didn't think two Crissaegrims would make it any quicker, I just kept hitting the button, dodging from left to right from his hands.. pretty quick death.

And as far as "Hardest boss" goes I'd have to saaaay...

Lumina - Brave Fencer Musashi.. It took me forever to figure it out.. I guess it wasn't hard after I did though.

[omegaslade]

well if your like at level 70-80 and have to crisagrims or a vaporal blade you don;t even have to doge if you are quick enough. lets see hardest boss teh final boss on metal slug x. expescially if you are trying to do it on the survival mode.

[Veritas]

also the dracula in castlevania sotn was way to easy i mean all you have to do was get two crissagrims and have a good level. i had him dead in abotu a minute.

I didn't think two Crissaegrims would make it any quicker, I just kept hitting the button, dodging from left to right from his hands.. pretty quick death.

And as far as "Hardest boss" goes I'd have to saaaay...

Lumina - Brave Fencer Musashi.. It took me forever to figure it out.. I guess it wasn't hard after I did though.

2 chrissaegrims dont do much but one is good...the broken thing about that sword is that you can move while waking away, so all you have to do was contiunally slash away with it and just concentrate on dodging...if you run low on life, pull a soul steal...hell you can even turn into your mist and let your familiar sword do all the work...the sotn dracula was more bark than bite...try the cotm one...now that was was pretty tough for me...you had to time your jumps just right so you dont get smacked for 80% of your health...

[dkhighwind]

No need. Dracula goes down in a matter of seconds. He usually doesn't have the chance to pull off a single attack with me. Mwa ha ha ha!... I played that game too much.

[Merid]

Once, I just sat there and let my sword familiar kill him cuz I was just that powerful. It took awhile, but it was rather comedic.

[mystik3eb]

My friend Veritas, you have an excellent opinion of the game, and I agree with the vast majority of it. However, I'm still not sure what you mean about "bad" since you mention that the only weak points were how the story was told (which I actually enjoyed alot of the time, though yea, it got very complex/confusing/too-much-like-xenogears like =), it did have its points, like in the Dead Sea with the whole connection to CT which was awesome IMHO, and with some unexpected events) and how most characters are pretty worthless, which I agree. They could've REALLY cut down on characters. I can name 20-30 right now, but I won't...I love the game too much ;)

I also agree with Ace, it's one of the most beautiful games I've ever played, up there with Zelda64, CT, Secret of Mana/Evermore, and...uhm...yeah =) Legend of Mana was good...in it's own genre of video games (or, rather, RPGs).

Dario was a pain, but I still beat him my first try =), and I agree, Karsh was tite, but Dario was pretty tite too, it's just stupid of him to propose to her then try to kill his best friend from stupidity lol.

And...what level glitch thing with Pip? What are you talking about? I'm unaware of that...

Also, FF8 really wasn't as bad as people say. It had an interesting story (not really brilliant, but better than some *cough*ff7*cough*), a fun card game, interesting characters, awesome fmvs, some cool gf's, and a unique magic/junction system which makes perfect sense after spending hours figuring it out >_<. Yea, it had several points about it that were annoying or just not that great, and there are better games, but it's higher on the ladder of the series than a few of the others. Now FF2J was BAD =)

Alright, enough crap from me. I've just spent the last few hours. Now all my characters and GFs are at lvl100, I have every card, every final weapon, all side quests finished, and almost all blue magic. I just need the last two, and to stock up my other three characters with my choice of magic (which, when junctioned correctly, really strengthen my charaters).

K...shutting up...=)

YES! That's the guy! That spell screws me EVERY SINGLE TIME! I have yet to beat him, but I dunno what to do next exactly...where to level up, what to level up to, etc. It is an awesome game but...I'm stumped!

Also, if someone could possibly give me a saved game of FF5 right when they're before that tower they hafta climb and hafta fight that portal boss I have a problem with, I'd REALLY appreciate it! I use SNES9x btw, so no zsnes zst states or whatever, only normal ones. Thanks

[Zygote]

The group of bosses that gave me fits were in either FFII/III US. You go stalking through this tower, round a corner and all of the sudden this trio of chicks falls out of the sky on you.
The real tall skinny Manute Bol looking one, the lardass in the middle and the midget Gary Coleman one. You whack away at one of them and they would bring them back to life.
God I hated those..
Also up there in the annoying category were the little dolls that merged to form uber creepy big ass doll.
I loved those games..

[lefty]

well i know that this isnt really a boss, but this part of this particular game was just so damn hard for me. anyone recall a game called "worms armageddon"? the one level that i could not get past was the "microprose" level. that level is like 4 levels away from the last one, and i was so determined to beat that damn level... eventually i just gave up cause that level was so damn unfair. i came VERY close to using that thing for a frisbee, so that my dog could catch it and urinate on it. man that sucked.

[Fighter102]

All time hardest boss...herm...I'd have to say Dr. Wily of the Megaman Series. After all, he does come back 7 times. Admittedly, he escapes at the end of every game, but still, how many times should he have died?

[Native Jovian]

The thing is that Chrono Cross cannot be compared to anything else. It's just not fair. Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger is Chrono Trigger, and Chrono Cross is Chrono Cross. Each game is unique to itself. In the end, Chrono Cross was nothing more than the answer to the one unanswered question from Chrono Trigger. But CC was an incredibly fun game, with incredible music and beautiful surroundings.

You're so goddamn right that it's not even funny. But anyway...

Anyone remember Dark Link from Zelda: Ocarina of Time? DAMN, I hate that bastard. Everyone was like "Just use the hammer!" and you know what? I used the hammer. And it didn't work. He either used his shield to block it, or stabbed me before I had a chance to connect. Then everyone told me "Damnit, man! Just use magic!" and you know what? I used magic. I spun around with my flaming magical sword so many times that it made me dizzy. Then I ran out of magic power, realized I had no green potions left, and died. Then they're all "No, you ass! The OTHER magic!" so I used Din's Fire. The bastard STILL kicked the shit outta me, because I kept running out of fooking magic!! I swear to God, that little Dark Bastard still pisses me off. Because, for some unknown reason, he suddenly became massively easy. I finally connected with the freaking hammer, and then it was child's play. He never came back from that first blow, I just kept whacking him before he recovered. Go figure.

Other than that.... Anyone remember a weird little NES game called "Mechanized Attack"? You were this commando guy sneaking (with machine guns blazing) onto this island where evil guys (either Nazis, Communists, or terrorists. I can't remember which.) that were making cyborg soliders. DAMN, that game was hard. I'm not sure if I'm remembering this right, but I believe the last boss was this giant brain thing in a glass tube. With rocket launchers installed on the sides. Now why the HELL would some asshole brain in the middle of the most heavily-guarded place on the planet need fucking rocket launchers installed on the sides of his tube!?! I abhor that thing. He took about 300 gernades, 23 hundred rockets, and every single machine gun round I had on me before he went down.

And while I'm on the subject, I hated the final boss of Yoshi's Island. That game ROCKS, by the way, but I hated the end boss. It was baby Bowser, GIANT SIZED!! He threw something at you. I can't remember what they were, but they kept taking chunks out of the platform I'm was standing on. And as he's throwing these things at you, he's coming closer. If he gets all the way to you, then you die. Instantly. Game over. So there.

Now, if you want to decide who the FUNNIEST boss is, that's a whole different story.

Once again, Yoshi's Island deserves a mention. Every once in a while in that game, this magician guy would pop up and use his uber l337 magic skillz to turn a regular enemy into a boss of some kind, usually by making it really really big. At one point, he appears as usual, with your friendly neighborhood soon-to-be-boss enemy a simple froggie. So, he says his thing and drops the happy magical dust as usual... But then, YOSHI SHRINKS! The froggie eats him, and -poof-. There's your boss battle. You're inside the frog's stomach, and you have to launch eggs at the little thingie hanging down the back of his throat while dodging drops of stomach acid and eating the shyguys that pop up in order to get more eggs. Not only was it quite difficult, as I remember, but it was also increadibly amusing.

And yes, this is my second reply to this thread. So sue me.

Edit: Oh yeah, lefty? Can you do me and the rest of the world a favor? Change that fooking sig, man. It's quite large, quite low-quality, and quite annoying. And it's not even that funny. Thank you, and good night. *bows*

[Merid]

that mini battle with Dark Link had awesome music!

[The Coop]

How about the fun boss at the end of Darklight Conflict? While it's not neccessarily a boss perse, it's still hard as balls. You complete the final mission, then you have to make a mad dash back to Earth, with about every remaining ship in the alien armada (who you were teamed up with up to that point to get rid of a "menace") chasing your ass down (if memory serves, it's a "now you get the honor of being blown to Hell"... kinda like the end of Einhander on PS1). You gotta make it back to see the end, or it's game over. And it's a long flight back because by the time you finish the final mission, you're out a special weapons and you're damaged big time (unless you use a cheat :D ).

Oh... and Jedi Kirby? You're wrong about the funniest boss ever. That honor goes to the boss Ash from the Japanese version of Streets of Rage 3... the guy that was removed from the American version. If you've seen him, you know why 8O .

[Native Jovian]

Oh... and Jedi Kirby? You're wrong about the funniest boss ever. That honor goes to the boss Ash from the Japanese version of Streets of Rage 3... the guy that was removed from the American version. If you've seen him, you know why 8O .

Ooooh! Link me, damnit! I wanna see a picture of this guy.

[The Coop]

Oh... and Jedi Kirby? You're wrong about the funniest boss ever. That honor goes to the boss Ash from the Japanese version of Streets of Rage 3... the guy that was removed from the American version. If you've seen him, you know why 8O .

Ooooh! Link me, damnit! I wanna see a picture of this guy.

Your wish is my command... at least this time anyway :wink:

http://www.emulationzone.org/sections/segaforever/sor/sor3/bk_sor.html

or

http://www.emulationzone.org/sections/segaforever/sor/sor3/moves/ash.html

But friend, you ain't seen nothin' until you've seen this guy in motion... pointed toes and all 8O . If you know how, emulate Bare Knuckles 3 and get a good laugh. :lol:

[Native Jovian]

That's actually quite scary. Mucho merci, and such.

[RuneLancer]

This isn't exactly a difficult boss (not even a boss, actually), but the most fun battle I've EVER seen HAD to be in Zelda 64. At some point, when you're adult Link, in the first dungeon (forgot the name... it's the forest one) you have to fight two Stalfos. I think that was the greatest swordfight I've ever seen!

While I'm on the subject, I never fished the darn game. I'm stuck in the aforementionned temple at this point where you have to assemble 4 blocks together to make a ghost's picture or something. For some odd reason, when I slap 'em together, sometimes they don't move, sometimes they actually turn out right, but nothing happens. I know I'm supposed to fit the blocks so they do that face on the wall, but is there a special way I have to do this? This thing's kept me stuck in the same place for way too long now -_- And while it might not be a boss, it's hard. Or rather, cheap...

[Euclid]

While I'm on the subject, I never fished the darn game. I'm stuck in the aforementionned temple at this point where you have to assemble 4 blocks together to make a ghost's picture or something. For some odd reason, when I slap 'em together, sometimes they don't move, sometimes they actually turn out right, but nothing happens. I know I'm supposed to fit the blocks so they do that face on the wall, but is there a special way I have to do this? This thing's kept me stuck in the same place for way too long now -_- And while it might not be a boss, it's hard. Or rather, cheap...

For that 'green' ghost to come out, you just need to shove the blocks together and the blocks on TOP has to be the picture on the wall. After 1 min or so the blocks turn and you'll have to start over again. Then the 'green' ghost comes out. You'll just have to be FAST :D

[Native Jovian]

This isn't exactly a difficult boss (not even a boss, actually), but the most fun battle I've EVER seen HAD to be in Zelda 64. At some point, when you're adult Link, in the first dungeon (forgot the name... it's the forest one) you have to fight two Stalfos. I think that was the greatest swordfight I've ever seen!

Yeah, Stalfos(es?) rock. I remember at one point in the Shadow Temple you have to fight three of the things while on a ghostly-phantom ship thingie, which passes if part you have to get off at and sinks if you take too long with the Stalfos, and don't see it. The funny thing is, if you just ignore them and jump off to that other ledge, they'll sink with the ship. It does the little whispy-balls-of-light-to-say-that-somethings-about-to-happen, then dissapears. The Stalfos go "WEEEE!", down into the abyss. Most amusing.

Oh yeah. Except for the first three, the dungeons are called <Whatever> Temple. The forest dungeon is the Forest Temple, the fire dungeon is the Fire Temple, etc...

[Chronomancer]

The hardest boss I've ever faced, is FF9 the last boss in that is a royal pain :x . He has a million attacks, all of them wipe out at least one party member or will kill them the next time round. I've yet to beat him, any suggestions?

[Sir Chadly]

Final Fantasy Legend II had very hard bosses at the end. It took me 9 straight summers to go from Venus through Arsenal.

I thought Earthbound's final boss was really really hard until I bought a players' guide. I would never have tried praying, and even if I did, I wouldn't have done it consecutively enought to accumulate the emmense damage.

[Silverhunt]

Alright, I know some of you have N64s, and though the system and most of the game sucked, there's one game that had the HARDEST boss I have ever played. Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (yeah yeah I know, only the snow level was any fun). You could save every single weapon you ever got and only use the laser on any of the other enimies, never miss when you shot him...AND HE STILL LIVED!! Then you shot him with the laser three times and he fell over... Not to mention the really sucky controls in that game....gods, I'm glad I only borrowed a friends copy and didn't actually buy that Game.

Oh also, on Mime+Limits for FF7, you can't do that on the original version, only the cheap $20 green edged version...why I don't know, but I didn't make it.

[Veritas]

anybody remember koolex (?) from Mario RPG? you know the missplaced FFish looking boss in the monster village?
that guy gave me lots of problems; kept being uncooperative and killing somebody important...
well i guess i demanded that all my characters survive the fight to get experience so...

[teknosis]

I remember a japanese game that was like Super R-Type. The game was near impossible and the last boss was so huge the screen had to pan so that you could see his face. He was so powerful that the game wasn't supposed to be beatable without cheats I think.

[omegaslade]

anybody remember koolex (?) from Mario RPG? you know the missplaced FFish looking boss in the monster village?
that guy gave me lots of problems; kept being uncooperative and killing somebody important...
well i guess i demanded that all my characters survive the fight to get experience so...

yeah i remeber him he was really hard to beat i mean he had all the crystals and stuff. and being able to only get to level 30 didn;t help( since that was max level)

[lefty]

Oh also, on Mime+Limits for FF7, you can't do that on the original version, only the cheap $20 green edged version...why I don't know, but I didn't make it.

thats not true, it works on mine (which is an original), infact thats how i beat the boss battle in the battle arena. I used cloud and did omnislash, and then mimed it for every round after the first time i used it. your not talking about one character miming anothers limit are you, cause i know i couldnt do that.

[Silverhunt]

Yeah, that's what I mean, multiple people doing the same limit....you should see Vincent, Red, and Cait Sith do Onmislash....it's friggin hilarious.

[RuneLancer]

Yeah, that's what I mean, multiple people doing the same limit....you should see Vincent, Red, and Cait Sith do Onmislash....it's friggin hilarious.
My good man, it's simply not possible. The frames aren't programmed for those characters, and using a gameshark to force them to do it simply locks up the game.

Nice try...

[Samus Aran]

You guys have it all wrong. The hardest boss ever, bar none, was the friggin aircraft carrier in Top Gun for the nes. Go up? Go down? left? right? faster? slower? It really didn't matter, that bastard would take you down every time. I think maybe if you hit up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-b-a-start and then did a little jig sometimes it would let you land, but mainly that thing was just out to get you.

Holy crap, you are SO right!!! 8O That was so insane, it used to freak me out as a little kid, it's like, "THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER IS COMING, THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER IS COMING!" and you're barreling towards it... ahhh!!! Yeah, that's the true hardest boss ever... lol! :mrgreen:

[Merid]

Ok, the aircraft carrier was hard as hell, but it was also kinda comical. Can I land? D'oh, crashed again.

[The Coop]

How about Akuma from Street Fighter Alpha 2, on 8 star difficulty, and getting to fight him without loosing a round? All I gotta say is GOOD-- F*CKING-- LUCK!!!!!! 8O

[Samus Aran]

Ok, the aircraft carrier was hard as hell, but it was also kinda comical. Can I land? D'oh, crashed again.

Heh heh... yes, it's hilarious... in retrospect. :mrgreen: It freaked me out as a kid. :P

[Vig]

hmm. id have to say Mother Brains second phase in Super Metroid. you know, when you discover she isnt just a brain, but shes a dinosaur, and shes all big and scary.





(Joke!)

really tho, in my experience, a lot of the Megaman X's had some tough final bosses in a row and you couldnt fill your health back up. but maybe thats my perception because i havent played megaman X-X3 since i was 11

[CCLynx]

The Ghost of the Divine Dragon in Legend of the Dragoon. Optional fight, I refuse to continue on with the game because I'm like that.

All the bosses of Chrono Cross were mainly easy (yet I loved the game)......still disappointed that Kid didn't have a Level 7 Element Special (or did she?)

On another note....Mike Tyson from MTPO (someone mentioned it earlier) wow, what a fight. Those one-hit wonds did a number on me.

Anyone remember Rad Racer for NES? The last level? Talk about a pain in the butt.

[Vortex RuneCutter]

Dragon Warrior 2 Last Boss.

Man it took hours to get levels at that point in that game. And when you did, all you had was HP+2 Strenght+1 MP+2 Speed+1.

And the last boss (Malroth I think was his name) always friggin' healed himself.

But, We Defeated Him!
DEATH TO YOU MALROTH!

Vortex

[Eccles]

Mong Zhu. I hated him.

[{BloodStar}]

...still disappointed that Kid didn't have a Level 7 Element Special (or did she?)

Yes she did. You had to get it in the burning house scene thing. I won't bore you with detail, but check it out at www.gamefaqs.com.

As for a boss... I'll have to say the Soul Reaver 2 boss fights. Yes, you are witnessing extreme sarcasm now. Do not worry, your vision will return in time. But seriously... it would have to be a boss fight from a fighting game. I think we can all agree that fighting game bosses result in more broken controllers than any other genre.

[The Coop]

How 'bout ANY boss in Target Earth for the Genesis? The game itself was hard as a f*cking rock, but the bosses were just infuriating!

[Ko Digga]

I don't know if anyone's said this yet because I haven't read the entire 11 pages of this thing the answer is simple. For anyone who was dumb enough to try their shot at it the Guardian in FF3 (6) could not be beaten. It was, indeed, impossible.

[grimwulf231]

NES: Tyson in MTPO was tough first couple times through

PSX: Ruby Weapon: FF7

[Samus Aran]

How 'bout ANY boss in Target Earth for the Genesis? The game itself was hard as a f*cking rock, but the bosses were just infuriating!

Speaking of which, the bosses in "To the Earth" for NES were pretty freaking hard. Probably because it was so impossible to get to them in the first place, you were drainied of all your energy when you got there. :P

Still a VERY COOL GAME! 8)

[The Coop]

ooo... ooo... ooo... I got one.

Zankuro from Samurai Shodown III. Big, cheap, did massive damage on one little hit, got back up after you beat him two rounds and was even cheaper, stronger and quick to swing than he was before. Not fair... nope, not fair.

[Meiguoren]

The hardest boss of all time... The Dark Demon in Dragon's Crest. After you beat the game with all the items you get a password. You put in the password and you become the Ulitmate Gargoyle and go up against this... thing. I still cannot kill it.

[The Coop]

The final bosses of both Virtual On home games. If it wasn't the time limit that gave you BARELY enough time to beat the things, it was the major damage done by every attack. And if it wasn't either of those aspects, it was the fact that if you missed one opportunity to damage the boss, there wasn't enough time to left to kill the thing before it would self destruct and take you with it.

Brutal... just brutal.

[Metasquares]

Call me weak if you'd like but I found Velius in FFT amazingly difficult. I actually shut off the game and started a new slot because I could not beat that guy.

[Metasquares]

I don't know if anyone's said this yet because I haven't read the entire 11 pages of this thing the answer is simple. For anyone who was dumb enough to try their shot at it the Guardian in FF3 (6) could not be beaten. It was, indeed, impossible.

But does impossible qualify as difficult? I think that downright I-can-do-no-more-than-0-damage-per-attack is not difficult, it's just not meant by the game developers to be done.

[GreatLeo]

Call me weak if you'd like but I found Velius in FFT amazingly difficult. I actually shut off the game and started a new slow because I could not beat that guy.
Velius was easy I used mostly Summoners against him. I dont think there was any real hard bosses in FFT I think the only hardest one I had to face was Elidibs which was a secret boss at the bottom of the deep dungeon but that was a walk in the park if you had TG Cid in your party.

[Metasquares]

Call me weak if you'd like but I found Velius in FFT amazingly difficult. I actually shut off the game and started a new slow because I could not beat that guy.
Velius was easy I used mostly Summoners against him. I dont think there was any real hard bosses in FFT I think the only hardest one I had to face was Elidibs which was a secret boss at the bottom of the deep dungeon but that was a walk in the park if you had TG Cid in your party.

Interestingly enough, I beat him without TG Cid, and took the time to learn Zodiac while I was at it :)

It was just Velius that gave me tons of trouble for some reason

[GilgameshDG]

has anyone ever played ROBOTREK for super NES? man, the bosses were INSANE!!! all of them. you had to level your robots up to incredible levels to even survive boss battles. it was because all the bosses had 10 or 20 times as much HP as they should have, and each boss battle took a good 10 or 15 minutes to beat

[GreatLeo]

Impressive to beat him without Cid and be able to acquire Zodiac the best summon of them all at the same time. I guess I didnt want to fool around with that boss considering at the point of the game all your levels are like at 99 and you got all the magic and weapons. As for Velius well that was like the first zodiac battle in the game and it was very early too so you didnt have time to build your levels or get great equipment so yeah that makes sense for him to be difficult.

[TheXenocide]

Well, he's not really hard at all if you're high enough level, but the first time I fought Sephiroth in FF7 i was desperately low in level. The whole battle took literally one and a half hours (probably would have been 20 minutes if it wasn't for him casting supernova every other turn) I finally got him with two guys dead and Cloud with only a few hundred hp left.

Other than that, no bosses in newer games can compare to the controller breaking difficulty of some 8 bit game bosses. Castlevania and Mega Man were especially hard for me. What about that part in Meda Man where you had to destroy those cannon things until you ran out of ammo, then die, and destroy the rest next time? Thats just not right.

[Metasquares]

Impressive to beat him without Cid and be able to acquire Zodiac the best summon of them all at the same time. I guess I didnt want to fool around with that boss considering at the point of the game all your levels are like at 99 and you got all the magic and weapons. As for Velius well that was like the first zodiac battle in the game and it was very early too so you didnt have time to build your levels or get great equipment so yeah that makes sense for him to be difficult.

Heh, I fight them as soon as possible without trying to level up. Everyone was around level 75. I think my Calc Wizard got me through it in the end, it was a long and hard battle :)

[Degron]

I didn't see any mention of this one, but I may have skipped over it by mistake. Those who have played Star Ocean 2 will know who I'm referring to:

THE ISCERA QUEEN!! @#$###@@#@!@!!!!!!!

After a good solid hour of pounding her with four lvl 255 characters she STILL did not die and managed to kill all four characters almost simaltaneously (or at least within four to five seconds) with ONE MOVE!!!! ARRRGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Ugh. I still haven't beaten her.

[Josin]

Anyone ever play Omega Boost? (god, that game went ignored... WAY overdue for a PS2 remake). The final boss was nearly impossible, as is the cliché for final bosses. This HUGE metal behemoth launching its arms at you, with energy teathers inbetween them. After that, you had about 8 seconds to destroy his gelatinous core or it'd explode, taking you out with him.

And damn, that game had great music, too...

[littlechava]

daryl from chrono cross

[Omega metsu]

Shin Gouki in Street Fighter Alpha 2.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/45f757f2/bc/Friends/shin+gouki.gif?bcP6LT9A0hGQxlmK

[The Coop]

Anyone ever play Omega Boost? (god, that game went ignored... WAY overdue for a PS2 remake). The final boss was nearly impossible, as is the cliché for final bosses. This HUGE metal behemoth launching its arms at you, with energy teathers inbetween them. After that, you had about 8 seconds to destroy his gelatinous core or it'd explode, taking you out with him.

Must be nice to have gotten that far... I'm still stuck on stage 5 (where you go down that LONG tunnel with the cross beams that you can't seem to avoid hitting). I've been stuck there for about two years :cry: .

[Panzerfaust]

I haven't played all the games mentioned, but I'm occasionally surprised at some nominations.

FF6, the only boss I had 'trouble' (meaning I roll my eyes once in a while at) was the thing that tunnels out of the wall with Locke and Celes. Mostly because I hate Celes and at that point don't have much equipment for her. Still, Locke and her never die. Not hard, just a nuisance. Everything else, well, forget it. I could take on Brachiosaurus with a single party member without offering/genji glove

FF7's emerald (underwater, right?) weapon was a joke. I'd tried it once to get a feel for it, and got creamed as I expected. I changed equipment, tinkered with materias and strategies, and psyched myself up for the fight, then did the usual mime/quad-KoTR a couple times with mimed megalixirs, and in the end, Yuffie finished him off with a 4x-cut. Sigh.

FF8 I never finished because I depended too much on junctions up to Ultimecia's castle, and had to return the disc to a friend the next day. I could beat it if I tried again, I guess.

I have yet to try the further FFs. No PS2, sue me.

Illusion of Gaia was mentioned. Finished the game in three hours. Nuff said.

Chrono Trigger, died at Lavos. Very tough, but I wasn't really trying. Just wanted to see him before the rental ended. Don't love this game much, but it's good.

Breath of Fires, moderate difficulty all around. BOF3's toughest battle was Teepo at the end, and the desert crossing, mostly because I was rushing through said desert to avoid as many battles as I could.

Guess the toughest boss I've ever seen in a game would have to be...

Heh, get this. Constantine at the end of Thief. Getting to him took me hours of careful sneaking around, and at the very end you had to rush things to switch the Eye with the fake. I hate rushing. Attempts: 1.

[The Coop]

I don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but how about Mr. X in Streets of Rage 3?

You have a time limit. You don't don't beat him within the time limit, games over. No redoes, no retries... just game over. You have to start from the beginning. As if that weren't enough, he NEVER stands still long enough to do any real damage to him.

It'll get you cussin' up a storm in no time.

[otaku_89]

the hardest boss would have to be Ozma :evil: in FF9.good god that was hard a hell.....but i eventually killed "it" with Steiners "shock". his life was what, 5-something.oh well i did beat him er i mean it.

[magus83]

Hardest boss hast to be in Eve in Parasite Eve when you have to fight here in the goddanmed Chrysler buiding! How i hated that thing, 70 floors of the same thing and every ten floors was a hader boss of the one you faught before. Then when you finally got to eve, she never seemed to die! No matter how many times i used that best spell, i think its called liberation I still can't beat her.

Also ayone ever heard of Kung-fu Heroes for the Nes? At some point in a level some rock boss would come out of nowhere and would rampage through the level and kill you instantly. Never could beat it, but boy was that a wierd game.

And i'm also counting refueling in Airwolf for the Nes. Never figured out how to land so when i ran out of fuel it was game over.

[Mo Ying Guek]

Ever played Phantasy Star 4 ? The hardest boss I have ever even imagined has to be Lashiec from PS4. Not Dark Force, but Big Daddy Lashiec. Maybe I was always underlevelled; I don't know. But what I do know is this: Whenever he used AnothrGate, he killed my ENTIRE BLOODY PARTY (except for Wren). There is nowhere at that point in the game that you can purchase items that restore party members to life or heal multiple party members. It takes me up to an hour to beat him, even using emulator savestating. All to get the Eclipse Torch. One use, mild holy/fire damage. YEARGHBLBLBE!

Oh, and any boss in Undead Line for the Genesis. God, my nuts never felt the same after playing that game.

[Psycrow]

Wow took a long time to read all 12 pages :P
A few comments...
Ruby weapon: Entered with 2 dead chars and revived when he put his claws under; used Demi for 9999 over and over, along with Hades to stop; then finished him with other stuff, barely got a scratch on me. That way he wasn't hard at all, but the most important thing is that by doing so I got the gold chocobo and avoided the long pointless hours of chocobo breeding.
FFT: This game was pretty darn tough for me until I got to the Calculator class around the chapter 2/3 crossover; after getting into a battle where I made em hit each other over and over for experience, and master the Calc class for a calc wizard, I never lost another battle cuz that class owns (except for losing vs Wiergraf, once, because like all battles I entered, I had no idea what to expect at first).
Vagrant story was a game so hard that after beating it, I didn't even feel like it was worth it. There are *REGULAR* enemies that can kill you in 1 hit there, if you're not psychic and haven't spent 234578952 hours preparing before entering each room. And that's after hour+ long stretches without save points.
For ultima weapon in FF8, I used the "The End" trick (theres a trick to getting selphie's The End to work, if you didn't know) to kill him right away. Yeah it was cheap, but so is he and I'm lazy.
I thought FF10 had some hard bosses, especially Seymour battles, at least for people like me who don't care to run around in circles levelling up. I just kept restarting and re-fighting til he died.
Of course FF4 here was easy, but that's how I like it. If it's too hard it makes you frustrated and if it's too easy it makes you yawn, and it didn't really do either (at least for me), cuz I like breezing through a game without having to see the "Game Over" screen which makes it reset and makes you wait for Squaresoft's 2390482390482390 opening credits to pass before you can try again :P (Yes, we KNOW squaresoft made the game, and yes, we KNOW the title of the game... *jams on buttons to make it go away* "why won't you go awaaaaaayyyy!!!!!")
I wanna play that one game and kill that mexican guy now :P
Oh yeah, 1 more random note... FF10 translation made me laugh sometimes. I remember this example cuz of all the resets: Tidus says to Seymour, "I knew you were trouble from the first time we met!" Seymour says (in his typical fruity voice) "Oh, my sincerest apologies!" (huh?) then Tidus says "Seeey-mour!" in a tone of voice that sounds like "Oh, that silly old Seymour! When will he learn! Ha ha ha!"

[Izlude]

um alot of fighting games have really hard bosses. but i would say that most of the sigma's were hard cause he had so many fucking forms like 6. some of the bosses in breath of fire were hard. and it was so funny when i was fighting against the final boss from breath of fire 3. i am jewish and she has this attack called holocaust. SO I WENT BERSERK ON HER. KAISER IS THE DRAGON OF THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Izlude]

ruby and emerald were really easy. i have a materia combo that will kill them and i have only to touch the controler 8 times. the combo is counter comand paired with mime on ur armor. final attack paired with phionex. knights of the round paired with hp absorb and hp and mp pluses and w summon. enter the battle with ur 2 other chars dead. cast knights of the round twice with w-summon or do knights with a quandra'd bahamut zero(optional) then just sit back and relax. he'll hit u with ultima for about 5k damage then u hit him back for about A TON and absorb ur self back to full hp. rinse repeat


I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Metasquares]

Ok no matter what any of you say, I know for a FACT who THE hardest boss to ever star in a video game is.

Ever hear of an old NES game called "Time lord"? It was actually made by Mattel. Yes the toy company.

Well. The game goes pretty smooth until you get to the 3rd level. While traveling through time you somehow end up in the wild west with cowboys shooting bullets up your ass from all directions. Well, if you manage to survive the level, you are rewarded with meeting the HARDEST BOSS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY! I KID YOU NOT!

Basically, the boss is this gigantic Mexican looking dude with a poncho, sombrero, and a six-shooter.

Well I fought him a couple of times and died after a few minutes or so, but eventually I found his pattern. My brother and I would sit there and keep fighting him, but we could never win.

Well, one day we were determind to defeat this pesky villain! We got to the end of the level, and began to fight him. And fight him. And fight him........Then we realized we had been fighting him for THREE HOURS on the same life! WE NEVER DIED! WE FOUGHT THE BOSS FOR 3 HOURS ON THE SAME LIFE! We must have hit him a MILLION times!! Pow! Pow! Pow! 4 Hours passed.......5 hours passed......still the same life.....took a few breaks.....took turns fighting....still the same life......HE WILL NEVER DIE!!!! HE IS FREAKING IMMORTAL!!!!! We finally gave up and turned the game off in grave dissapointment.

Well, now you know who THE hardest boss in video game history is. The stupid mexican guy in a poncho and sombrero with a six shooter. :evil:

Maybe he's the time lord.

[herman9000]

nah, the hardest boss in all games is Sigma!!! I cant beat him in the megaman X series. :o

[Jeenux]

The hardest boss I played against was the big head at the end of NARC. We were two trying to kill it but it was pointless. We gave up after half an hour then went outside to get some fresh air if I remember...

cya,
jeenux

[herman9000]

I never heard of that game.

[Psycrow]

Let's see...
http://www.classicgaming.com/rotw/timelord.shtml
The guy with this Time Lord ROM couldn't beat the mexican guy either. I'm gonna give it a go...

[Psycrow]

Whooped the ugly lardo mexican guy... pistol does it... rifle doesn't seem to for some reason. My only guess as to the reasoning of this (if it wasn't a mistake) is that if it's a true gun duel, you cant use a rifle :P
But he looks the same when you hit him with either, so *that* much, at least, is a mistake in the game.
Yeah, that seemed poorly planned by the game designers.
Next level is a corny pirate level :P

[moop]

WOW THOS POST IS ANCIENT D:

[souldragon777]

whew after finally reading all these pages and thinking for a very awhile, my hardest bosses foe me were lets see.......well i gotta say the weapons were pretty freaky but i did beat them both twice but the way i beat ruby weapon the first time my God it must have been luck. i had caith sith limit break where if u get 3 caith sith slots(where it forms his face) it would be an instant killer and that thing died rite on the spot i was so happy cuz back then it was one of my great vg accomplishments it almost seemed like fate because when i was using the slots when the last slot landed it seemed like it was forced on there becuz i rember pressing the button and it came up a lil bit late.....really weird.
Anyway continuing i'd have to say omega from ff8 was indeed a son of a bitch. i used my own lil strategy by using rinoa's invincible moon it took a couple game over for it to come up and it worked well. i didnt want to use the stategy of using the gilgamesh card into 10 holy wars i wanted keep all my card. thats how i beat him b4. Anyway i actually managed to get invincible moon when everyone had one hp! which ment the limit break came up almost everytime and invincible moon really lasts.
Ok now about the othe omega weapon from ff5 what the hell is this thing man a freakin robot spider? come on they could do better than that even back then. But dammnit he was the only boss i have not beaten thro all my final fantasies (i'm still workin on ffx and i havent got thro ff1 yet) he had so many damn moves like cutting ur hp in half 4 times in a row and other things that i 4got. i jus couldnt beqat his ass. shinryu on the other hand was pretty easy especially when u got eight dragon lances and everyone with the 2 weapon ability hehe.
now moving on i remember a boss from vagrent story that was a pain. i believe it was ashura(the 6-armed woman) i could barly do any damge to her and my risk went up so high it was getting harder good thing i had those potions that lower ur risk.
i also loved chrono cross. even tho i cant remeber the bosses too well except for the one guy that u fight i believe he had the masamune. something with a D daryl? darian? dario? i 4got. He was crazy especially since u had to have that one girl in ur party, what was her name? She was kinda weak at least for me. Man there so many character they coulda made that game like 10 discs long so there'd be a side quest for like every character. ya kno when kid gets sick an if u don't help her some else does by getting the hydramrsh thingie or whatevr. i heard from a faq/strategy guide that it was norman or at least i think that was his name? he was the blond gaurd dude. anyway how the hell does he kno this? please help out my poor memory. oh and one last thing what was that unanswered question in chrono trigger that was answered in chrono cross.

[herman9000]

as i was saying, sigma is the hardest boss :) :D 8) :oops: :roll: :twisted: :evil: :x :wink: :!: :arrow:

[Meiguoren]

as i was saying, sigma is the hardest boss

I agree he is a tad difficult. The first time. Then maybe the second time as well. But he has an easily discernable pattern, once that is learned then you have a chance. Just don't get flustered and stay cool. He does one or two moves and they all have huge holes to avoid them. Then he blows up and you save the world.

[herman9000]

but he is very hard, before his true form, the head :o

[Lithium Fusion]

hehe, the Vampire from Final Fantasy... I mean gawd!!! one hit killed all of my guys... It took me days of leveling up before I could beat that guy... I think my d00ds were at like level 18 before I could beat him... talk about a horribly programmed boss... he just whipped me sensless...




*disclaimer: the preceding was most assuredly a joke. The Vampire in Final Fantasy has to be the easiest boss in any game, or at least one of the easiest bosses of all time. One hit from Fir3 killed him... One hit!! so I guess this belongs in a thread for easiest boss of all time... but I felt like putting it here, so there :P *

[Meiguoren]

I suppose all of this is all based on who is making me rage right now. And that beastie is the Dark Genie in Dark Cloud. If I ever beat him I'm sure I'll look back and think, aw that weren't so tough. But right now I hate the fucker.

[WraithEX]

BOSS STRATS! [part 1 of ...??]

im a little behind here BUT to beat shinryuu in 1 and 1/2 turns (yes) its easy...
steal about 6 hiryuu lances from crystal dragons
make everyone use the job 'dragoon'
equip duel hiryuu lances...
FIGHT SHINRYUU!
make everyone jump... he's a goner... 1 and a 1/2 turns

[Unforgiving Savior]

After playing dozens of RPG's, RTS's, and FPS's, I can safely say that the 2 hardest bosses I ever fought were off of Xenogears. THe first would have to be Id on foot (prolly 'cuz I was using Rico the "I can't hit jack" mongoloid :D ) and the second would have to be Deus without killing his little orb things (he killed a gear a round... :evil: ). Other tough bosses would include Death (name/spelling?) off of FFV and Chaos off of FF1.

[WraithEX]

Chaos is the easiest boss if you know what your doing, 2 turns for me and hes gone

anyways, cast fast or something on your black belt if you have one, and attack - my black belt, er karate master guy, he does 2000+ and like 20+ hits.. chaos dies in 1 hit.

[Unforgiving Savior]

maybe Chaos was hard cuz I ran through the game with 4 black mages cuz Lit 1 looked so cool :P

[Ndstrukt]

Lets face it ppl, Mr.Big from Narc was the cheapest and damn near hardest boss ever created. Beating him without a game genie is impossible. Even with the help of the genie and all his wishes that he granted me, I was still unable to beat Mr.Big in under 3 hours. The man kept on going even after I destroyed his eyes, his head, his neck and the notches in his spine. Till this day I have never gotten to a boss so impossible to beat without the aid of the game genie. If someone knows of a boss harder than Mr.Big I would definately like to hear it, but I doubt anyone will find one seeing as though game designers have begun to wise up and make their games beatable.

[The Coop]

I have a few to add. How about the final boss in Smash T.V.? If it weren't for unlimited continues in the Genesis version, I'd still be trying to get to the game's end.

I'm suprized at how few, if any, bosses from arcade games have been mentioned. Well, here's the first... I think.
The final boss from the game Hippodrome. A big, nasty bastard that simply DOES NOT FALL! There isn't enough money in the world to beat this prick. The game never came to a home system, so I'll probably never get to see that games ending.
Now that I think about it, the last four or five characters in that game are nasty. Going from, in order, "Nasty", to "Really Nasty", to "Unfairly Nasty", to "Frustratingly Nasty", to ""FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU SON OF A --" nasty" (that one's the final boss :D ).

In case you think I'm making this game up...

http://www.klov.com/H/Hippodrome.html

... it was a simplistic fighter, but it was cool for its day (some cool character designs).

[Ndstrukt]

Some arcade games weren't meant to be beaten, games like Narc, Smash TV and Hippodrome were a few of them. If you want to see what their endings are like I would suggest finding a rom and playing them on a MAME emulator. That way you can get some satisfaction from all your hours of finger tapping.

[Meiguoren]

Ah Mr. Big. The perfect Arcade boss. Why? Well the reasons have already been mentioned. He's damn near impossible. He goes through countless phases before he's finally dead. Add that up to an already frustrating (yet highly enjoyable) game and you have money making potential. If you can convince the player that he or she is doing well enough at a certain point in the game then said player will continue to pump quarters in. Especially when one reaches Mr. Big. It's the end, you know it's the end, your not going to give up now. And there's a quarter machine right over there! Victory is in your sights! And the people who created NARC made a mint.

The End.

[SolarAsthma]

Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson's Punch Out.... but the last boss from Breath of Fire 2 gave me some trouble (more than it should have) and the boss from Arc the Lad 2 was a real pain....... some people say it was easy, but i dont see how..... well.... without having extremly high levels. how high can you get in that game..... well over 200, i know that.


but... yeah.. Tyson is the one.

[Psycrow]

You'd like that Mike Tyson's Punch Out remix here by Game Over then, SolarAsthma, if you haven't heard it already :P (you prolly have, but can that remix ever be mentioned too much?)

[herman9000]

yeah, Chaos is pretty easy to beat, but my bro can't beat him, also i know a fast way to get to him, i have a code from gameplanet.com

[Jonathon Striker]

I have to say that the hardest boss was the one on a genesis game called target earth. It was extremely difficult to beat because of the sub-boss before it. And thats just to say if you can survive to the last level or even the 5th level for that matter. I have yet to ever beat that game with no cheats. Anyone who never played this game I warn you...
...no lives 8O !

[herman9000]

i have never heard such a game :oops:

[The Coop]

Here's a fun one. Shub-Niggurath from Quake.

I know, I know... once you figure out what you're supposed to do, it's so easy it's sad. But, until you figured it out, how many times did you die trying to blast that ugly bitch away?

[herman9000]

is it the brown monster guy? :mrgreen:

[omegaslade]

ok heres one probaly no one has thought of. how about the last boss to phantom 2040. i mean if you didn;t save almost ever energy aid you found you were gonna die. i mean i usually ran out half way through the thing. cause lets face it some of thoses bosses have rediculous amouts of life.

[herman9000]

I never heard of it :cry:

[Zakastra]

Anyone ever play Omega Boost? (god, that game went ignored... WAY overdue for a PS2 remake). The final boss was nearly impossible, as is the cliché for final bosses. This HUGE metal behemoth launching its arms at you, with energy teathers inbetween them. After that, you had about 8 seconds to destroy his gelatinous core or it'd explode, taking you out with him.

Must be nice to have gotten that far... I'm still stuck on stage 5 (where you go down that LONG tunnel with the cross beams that you can't seem to avoid hitting). I've been stuck there for about two years :cry: .

To get around those, slowly rotate the analougue stick. see your through, now the other way round on the next ones....

BEUTIFULL On a well powered EPSXE

[omegaslade]

Youve never hear dof phantom 2040. aww man. it was a cartoon the they stoped showing it the made a game and a movie out of it. basically it is liek a futuristic spider man except he wars purple.

[littlechava]

oh yeah i loved that cartoon! i played the game too but i never got to the end it was one of the hardest i ever played. they made a movie about too but it sucked.

[omegaslade]

Yeah the game was hard and the movie had nothign to do with the phantom cartoon. but any how any one who has played it and made it to the final boss (maxwell sr in a weird for) will knwo that that has to be one of the hardest boss ( not the hardest cause i have beaten it before) but it will definetly take you awaile

[littlechava]

do you know anywhere i can get a rom for it i would really like to play it again.

[omegaslade]

yeah umm http://www.freeroms.com/ heres where i got it from. it shoudl eb tehre some where oh and iif you decid to look at the other roms here the snes ones don;t work

[littlechava]

thank you very much.

[omegaslade]

no problem

[herman9000]

cool, but i never heard of it :lol:

[omegaslade]

then go play it lol you'll like it

[herman9000]

ok, but it better be worth it, :roll:

[omegaslade]

well if you don't liek blowing robots up and hanging from walls or a game with a really good story lien with chocies you can make in it then dont; bother with the game (^)_(^)

[herman9000]

ok, what was the game again? :?

[omegaslade]

PHANTOM 2040 for the sega

[herman9000]

oh, i thought you were talking about an online game, sorry

[The Coop]

How about the final boss in the original R-Type? You had only a couple seconds to hit it when the vine-like things parted, exposing the boss. Once they closed, it was a good twenty seconds or so before they'd open again. In the meantime, you have to avoid fast moving suicidal enemies trying to slam into your from above, below, the front and the back... all while dodging the indestructable spheres floating around.

Doesn't that just spell fun?

[omegaslade]

LOL well if yoru going to mention r-type you might as well mention all of them i mean the boss from hmm which one was it the one on the super that they remade for the playstation was hard. like the one boss you had to shott while winding yrou way throguh an almost inpossible maze as the screen moves faster and faster. that spells even more fun

[herman9000]

I have never heard of that game :cry:

[herman9000]

oh ok, :D :) :( :o 8O :? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow:

[The Coop]

I have never heard of that game :cry:

You've NEVER heard of R-Type? <wince><gasp>

Oh my son, you have some research to do. Here's a list for ya...

R-Types= This game on the Playstation contained arcade perfect versions of R-Type I & II

Super R-Type= A SNES game that has a little of I & II, with new stuff thrown in for good measure.

R-Type 3: The Third Lightning= A new episode in the series, this SNES game is one of the best shooters on the ol' SNES.

R-Type Leo= a rare arcade shooter. Good luck finding this one to play. It's plays a little differently from most of the other R-Type games.

R-Type Delta= a Playstation original, this episode features all polygonal enemies and backgrounds, rather than all sprites like the rest of the series.

All these games are great in their own way. They all share similar play mechanics, but each offers challenges in their own right. R-Type 3 is being released on the Gameboy Advanced in a little while. How well it'll match up to the SNES version is yet to be seen.

Now go forth and find these games my son... and experience gaming bliss.

[glaximus]

8-bit bosses were generally the most bad-assest of them all in terms of sheer frustrility- but I invite you to bring your tender, unwhipped asses into a little arena we call Devil May Cry.

Not normal mode, and not hard mode, but the super-masochistic Dante Must Die mode. Oh dear god, the bosses in that mode are CRAZY.

Nelo Angelo, from the FIRST TIME YOU FIGHT HIM in DMD, has stremfed out to insane proportions. That bastard must eat his cereal with diesel fuel. Naturally, you have to beat him three times throughout the course of the game, with the last confrontation being THE most unbalanced, unfair, pain-and-suffering, weeping and gnashing of teeth--- GRAH!

Oh, how my rage boils. He simply demands a perfect battle- should he hit you once, the stun is more than likely enough for him to follow up with a Dante-mashing combo, which killed you in the first hit anyway. Or, he'll use his 1-hit life emptying uppercut - A FUGGIN UPPERCUT!! He's a got a sword bigger than Jesus, and he demolishes you with a goddamn uppercut... oaghagajhgrahg!!

I don't mean any disrespect to the guys who list RPG bosses as the most fierce- and I've cut my teeth against all types and flavors of Weapons, but guys, turn-based will never be as intense as hard core, OG action-based combat.

I've been tempted more than once to crush my copy of DMD into a fine powder and sprinkle it over my cereal and eat it with a hearty smile, just to prove to Nelo Angelo who the true king of Stremf is. But I know that even after being consumed, he will wrack my innards, shredding my precious colon with hard-coded binary malice.

One day, his ass is going down. Of course, the celebration will be limited, because the next step is to run head-long into Nightmare Revenge, who I fathom will be so cheap, invincible and uber that he makes Nelo Angelo look like Glass Fuggin Joe.

Glaximus

[AnotherOneBitesTheDust]

HAHAHAHA, oh man, I couldn't face myself to beating DMC until Dante must Die mode. I stopped after I beat it the first time. My hands would break if I went that far. That game has got to have the best bosses ever created.

[omegaslade]

I woulf have to agree with all of you. neoanglo may be a hard boss but hes nothin compared to thoses damn nightmares expescailly the last one because yoru in a tight confined space and you got miss bitch over there zappiong you. but hey thats what yoru suposed to save your incincibles and holy water for lol. but heres another idea...... all the games of today usually have gay bosses case in point ffx i mean thoses bosses every the nemisis( omega gold) was hella sorry soul reaver 2 was sorry also. but as for hardest dude i thnk you shoudl have steped up one and just said teh final nightmare was cause you shoudl knwo by now that he will be.

[herman9000]

oh ok, :D 8O :x :evil: :twisted: :P :? :) :( :o :lol: 8) :wink:

[Solanalos]

Cyber Akuma from Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter (level 8 difficulty)

He was almost unstoppable, not too hard to get to, but once I was there, it took rematch after rematch. I had to fight his cheapness with my own regular Akuma :) (dash dash, hurricane kick into air super hadoken)


Shin Akuma from Capcom vs. SNK 2 level 8 difficulty.

Not quite as tough as the MSHvSF cyber incarnation, but I couldn't kill him.
My brother finally killed him in a super close match, he used Haohmaru, appropriate demon killer.


Blaster Master anyone? The last boss was fairly tough, but the fact that you couldn't save progress, there was no passwords, there were limited continues...insane.

Back to the Future! timing in that game was insane, I don't think I ever got past the block kisses with your book level.


I thought Yunalesca from FFX was pretty hard until I figured out how the zombie stuff worked in the game.


Chrono Cross stuff...

Criosphinx is easy if you stole the yellow plate from the Earth Dragon. Put it on Glenn, and let him house on the Sphinx :)

You want hard? Try and beat Radius! In the very beginning in the training session! Sure he whoops you, and it's the first game right?
So we jump in there with the game/continue+ option. He still crushes us. He'll take more turns if necessary to rapidly cast enough blue spells to kill you. Then we discover the wonders of the color plates :) After going through the game twice (being roughly * level 96) and armed with blue plate.

Finally, we can take him down, and he can't stop us. Does he lose? Nooooooo.....he only comments that he must have trained you well!

[Teknobunny]

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jesus christ, the has to be the most popular post in OCremix history!

... ... ... and Red Falcon (on hard mode) from Contra 3 was the most difficult boss ever... but i enjoyed every minute of his ass whupin... cant wait for Contra: Shattered Soldier to see what they throw at me next

[Teknobunny]

Try and beat Radius! In the very beginning in the training session! Sure he whoops you, and it's the first game right?
So we jump in there with the game/continue+ option. He still crushes us. He'll take more turns if necessary to rapidly cast enough blue spells to kill you. Then we discover the wonders of the color plates :) After going through the game twice (being roughly * level 96) and armed with blue plate.

Finally, we can take him down, and he can't stop us. Does he lose? Nooooooo.....he only comments that he must have trained you well!

LOL!!! ill hafta try that one

[herman9000]

yeah, lol :P

[The Coop]

Who is this Herman 9000 and why is he so interested in those smiley faces? Hmm....

Anyway, here's a new boss for ya. For those who have ventured into the game Soul Fighters on the Dreamcast, who's beaten the half man/half owl-like creature? I actually gave up on the prick and cheated my ass of. It's bad enough he's cheap, too powerful, can hit you from anywhere on the screen, and takes little damage from your hardest hit, but if you loss, you have to go back to the very beginning on the level and play for another few hours to get back to him.

Yes, there is a save feature at the beginning of each level... and only at the beginning of each level. Which makes it all even cheaper.

[littlechava]

smiley faces arew hte best! :!: :!: :evil: :twisted: :P :oops: :wink: :cry: :lol: 8) :o :( :) :? 8O :x :D :cry: :twisted: :evil: :roll: :idea: :arrow: :wink: :cry: :D :) :( :o :lol: 8) :? 8O :mrgreen: :| :wink: :cry: :mrgreen:

[littlechava]

:D :D :D :D :D 8O 8O :evil: :evil: :twisted: :oops: :P

[herman9000]

you dont know who herman9000 is?!!! it's me herman. 9000 sounds cool, so its herman9000 :o :D

[pr_stealth]

Glaximus, your description of the Dante Must Die mode bosses reflects my own feelings perfectly, and perhaps in even better words than I could have mustered. Thank you, you have warmed this jaded gamer's heart.

[herman9000]

and who are you

[Falcon2001]

Chaos, from Final Fantasy. You've just descended through a huge dungeon involving all of the other fiends and impossibly tough enemies, and then you get this bad motherfucker with unheard of attack power, damn near infinite hit points, and the ability to cast Cure 4 on himself. In short, the ultimate boss. Seriously, if he joined your party, I could take over the world in nothing flat. This guy is INSANE.

Coolest bad guy though, would be Odio from Live a Live, especially when YOU ARE ODIO! It's great, go back and beat up the good guys!

[herman9000]

yeah, he is hard, but only my bro beat him

[Xplo]

Hardest RPG boss ever: Malroth from Dragon Warrior 2. He didn't have any cheap one-hit kill attacks like some bosses, but he did enough damage to keep your healer occupied (or worse), had enough HP to withstand several rounds of fighting, and.. CAST HEALALL LIKE IT WAS GOING OUT OF STYLE! Even at maximum level, you stood a fairly good chance of not being able to kill him (so much for the "all you have to do is level up" theory).

On that note, I'd like to nominate the entire game as exceptionally cruel.

Runners up: Chaos (FF1) and Lavos (Chrono Trigger) were hard if you fought them at the level where you would normally reach them, without doing any level-building on the side.. more so than many RPG bosses, I'd say.

Honorable mention: The Dragonlord, Dragon Warrior 1.. at level 16. One level before you get Healmore. Yes, that means you're fighting him with HERBS. Can you do it? I never could, but I'm convinced it's possible.

Anyone who has trouble with bosses in FF games from the second half of the series is a pussy. I'm sorry, the truth may hurt but it had to be said.

Hardest action boss: Who the hell knows? There are literally thousands of these games and many of them have insanely hard end bosses, especially when they started in the arcade ("insert one credit to continue.. 10.. 9.. 8..."). With that said...

The Grim Reaper from Castlevania was the horror of my young gaming days. In my mind, I will always imagine his room as containing great heaps of rotting Belmonts in the background, even if I did finally beat him sometime last year.

Nearly anything on higher difficulty levels of Devil May Cry. If you haven't played this game, or you only rented it and played it on Easy, give the real thing a shot. It will scar your soft, pink flesh with cruel metal whips and fire and send you home, broken and crying for God and Mommy.

The ultimate end boss in Demon's Crest is hard, certainly, but not insanely hard; once you get a feel for how he fights (it's a very simple pattern) you should be able to spank him handily if you're smart enough to use the right items at the right times. I forget how the ending goes, though.. Doesn't Firebrand get the Super Übercrest of Infinite Hurting and go on to conquer the world, or something? Dammit, the world needs another game like that.. good gameplay, awesome dark pseudogothic atmosphere.

[The Coop]

The Grim Reaper from Castlevania was the horror of my young gaming days. In my mind, I will always imagine his room as containing great heaps of rotting Belmonts in the background, even if I did finally beat him sometime last year.

Whew! I was starting to think I was the only one who had a bitch of a time with Death in Castlevania. I had a friend who wrecked his NES because he was so frustrated with that boss.

You basically have no hope of winning unless you make it to him without dying, a "III" icon and the cross. Anything else, and you'll need an act of God to win (I did beat him once with just holy water... wasn't easy though).

I haven't gotten to the FINAL final boss of Demon's Crest yet. Now I'm looking forward to it :twisted: .

[ddjk]

Well I have to say that none of the bosses these days compare to the old school NES bosses of yesteryear. Of course when I was playing games like Castlevania I was only about 6 years old, but those bosses were hard as hell. I just cant think of any boss in recent years that has put my patience and persistence to the test more than these guys. Maybe its because I'm in my twenties now and have been around the block. But anyway here they are in no particular order:

Grim Reaper - Castlevania
For the life of me I couldnt beat him as a kid. Came back to the game when I was in my teens and finally beat him. Of course the next couple levels proved incredibly frustrating too, so I never completed it.

Father/Jaquio/Demon Combo - Ninja Gaiden
The BS surrounding this boss was thick. Remember if you died anywhere else during the stage 6 levels you started on that level. But if your life count hit zero when fighting the final boss you got shot all the way back to 6-1! I could never get passed that flying Jaquio. About 6 months ago I picked it up again and finally gave Jaquio what for and beat that game. Very satisfying.

Shadow Link - Zelda II Adventure of Link
Tried to beat this cat hundreds of times, and never could. Most people said it was because I never owned a controller with a turbo button. I couldnt move my little fingers fast enough back then. I would go back now and try it, but then I'd have to figure out the maze that is the last dungeon, and I really dont think its worth it.

Mike Tyson - Mike Tyson's Punchout
When youre 6years old and fighting Mike Tyson there aint no way youre gonna win. Your reflexes are still developing. With that said, I could never beat Iron Mike until I was about 12 years old. The best I did when I was 6 was knock him down once or twice.

[herman9000]

i cant find iron mike, is he in the harder levels, i left off when i beat the bald bull 2 times :cry:

[Xplo]

You basically have no hope of winning unless you make it to him without dying, a "III" icon and the cross. Anything else, and you'll need an act of God to win (I did beat him once with just holy water... wasn't easy though).

Yeah, holy water works, but the cross works better. But everyone knew that, right? 8) I don't remember how I finally beat him but I'm sure I used one of those.

Well I have to say that none of the bosses these days compare to the old school NES bosses of yesteryear.

If you have a PS2, give Devil May Cry a shot. This game is HARD. Especially toward the end.

Father/Jaquio/Demon Combo - Ninja Gaiden

If you could get to Jaquio with the Jump and Slash - which meant that you had to play through most of the end of the game without dying, but isn't it all about perfection? - he was a complete wuss, like pretty much anyone when you used the J&S on them. Second best thing was to get that attack that shot fireballs up at an angle (or something like that?) which took him down pretty quick.

If you had any other special attack, or none, then GOD HELP YOU. I probably tried taking him down with the sword a couple dozen times and I never quite managed to do him in.

Shadow Link - Zelda II Adventure of Link
Tried to beat this cat hundreds of times, and never could.

Really? Ouch. He certainly wasn't easy - you needed speed and maybe a little luck - but I could *usually* beat him.

With that said, I could never beat Iron Mike until I was about 12 years old.

Congratulations, man. I don't think I ever beat him at all. Fighting him took nerves of steel and the reflexes of a god. :mrgreen:

[ddjk]

If you have a PS2, give Devil May Cry a shot. This game is HARD. Especially toward the end.

Yea... I did play it recently. Completed it about a month ago. Great game. And yes, it was pretty hard. The best bosses I've played against in maybe two gaming generations. The thing is, I went through it on NORMAL... not the infamous DANTE MUST DIE. On normal it took me a handful of tries to defeat that damn blob ( i hate that blob), actually a handfull to beat pretty much everybody. Except the griffon (1st and 3rd iterations werent too bad). I can only imagine the difficulty level at higher levels. When I saw the "Now try it on HARD" after I finished the game I laughed, and thought to myself "no friggin way". So I can understand that the pain that DMC would cause a person. Cant vouch for it though, but I definitely know where youre comin from.

On another note... did DMC just destroy your hands? Holding down R1 while rapid firing the fire button with Ebony & Ivory left me reaching for an ice bag after a couple of boss fights ( i always used E&B on griffon).

for HERMAN9000: it goes Bald Bull(#2), Flamenco(#2), Sandman, Macho Man, then Tyson. So youre almost there.

If you had any other special attack, or none, then GOD HELP YOU. I probably tried taking him down with the sword a couple dozen times and I never quite managed to do him in.

Yep thats why i cried. But at least I finally did it.

Really? Ouch. He certainly wasn't easy - you needed speed and maybe a little luck - but I could *usually* beat him.

One of those games I regret never beating. Kind of a lame boss if you think about it. Just a button masher where victory depends on some luck. But I never could do it for some reason. You can see I'm bitter. Oh well. Great job on beatin him!

[ddjk]

A present for HERMAN9000

007-373-5963

the password for Tyson. Crazy I remember it after all these years. I guess its like the Konami (UUDDLRLRBA,Select Start) thang, the kid icarus "ICARUS FIGHTS MEDUSA ANGELS", or metroids "JUSTIN BAILEY"... you never forget.

[herman9000]

thanks man, you've been so nice these days, you rock.

[Xplo]

The thing is, I went through it on NORMAL... not the infamous DANTE MUST DIE.

Same here, to be perfectly honest. Just thinking about DMD mode makes me twitch.

On another note... did DMC just destroy your hands? Holding down R1 while rapid firing the fire button with Ebony & Ivory left me reaching for an ice bag after a couple of boss fights ( i always used E&B on griffon).

Definitely.. holding down R1 all the time like that is just brutal. I rented Soul Reaver 2 the other day and even though it's a lot easier, it gave me the same problem. I'm not really sure the human hand was supposed to work that way :(