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NeoForte
11-17-2006, 01:57 AM
I got my copy yesterday, and before the medicine for my cold made me drowsy I played a lot of it. So far I gotta say I'm really impressed with the remake. Having played and beat the original I was very excited over this game.

The intro FMV was well done. The graphics don't disappoint for DS. It feels like FFIII and plays like it so I am satisfied. Its pretty old school, which I like, but for some maybe not. The characters have minor personalities which is nice since before they were nameless with no personality. Kinda sucks Onion Knight wasn't their first job but being a secret job sould be worth it.

Touch screen controls are cool to try. You move the character in the direction you click on the screen. You can also tap enemies to choose and and tap again to attack. The dual screens aren't put to full use most the time though. When in dungeons, towns and in battle the upper screen is blank. Kinda sucks but I don't really care. On the world map, the upper screen is a map of the area. Pretty useful heh.

Gameplay wise its the same as FFIII, literary nothing has really changed when in battle. Difficulty seems to be on par so far, just less enemies on screen but the enemies on screen have more HP and power. The jobs system took a change so no more Capacity Points, you can switch whenever you want, but your "weakened" for a fight or two and then your fine.

I'm really enjoying this title again, and hopefully will enjoy Mognet as well. Any that have gotten the game send me a mail thru my friendcode: 3136-1675-4840

Arek the Absolute
11-17-2006, 02:03 AM
Picking it up in about an hour or so.
I am gonna enjoy the hell out of this. I love the old school ff feel.

Steben
11-17-2006, 02:19 AM
I've thought about getting this, but frankly, I'm afraid it might be a little too old school for me. I've played FF and FF2, and I wasn't thrilled. (FF2 had a story to keep me interested, but I'm told FF3 gave the story the backburner to the job system.)

Someone convince me I should get it anyway. I've about exhausted Children of Mana.

Kitsuta
11-17-2006, 02:19 AM
I'll wait on this one, but I definitely want it. Wii takes first priority. In fact, I may just want to get the rest of my family DSes before I spend any more money on DS games for myself.

Terial
11-17-2006, 03:08 AM
my only gripe, is apparently square forgot that English uses spaces between their words... and failed to put spaces or punctuation symbols on the same screen as the leters. I could handle symbols on a different screen. but something as commonly used as a space? How can you possibly forget that??

Kitsuta
11-17-2006, 03:29 AM
my only gripe, is apparently square forgot that English uses spaces between their words... and failed to put spaces or punctuation symbols on the same screen as the leters. I could handle symbols on a different screen. but something as commonly used as a space? How can you possibly forget that??

Not to be rude, but what the hell are you talking about? o__O

Czar Diego
11-17-2006, 04:09 AM
The Mognet. There's no way to put a space, or if there is, Nobody I've talked to had found it.

NeoForte
11-17-2006, 04:43 AM
The Mognet. There's no way to put a space, or if there is, Nobody I've talked to had found it.

The space is at the bottom of the "Symbols" catagory, yea it took me a bit to find it out myself. Its stupid and weird but w/e I can live with it.

Story wise, this game is the best one of the NES ones. I wouldn't put it anywhere near FFIV, or even FFV. In a way its like FFV, the real prize was the gameplay and jobs but story is pretty good either way. Least the characters aren't 1 dimensional like the NES one.

JoeFu
11-17-2006, 05:56 AM
So...
FCs?

Mine is

5068
9032
6027

TSU
11-17-2006, 09:26 AM
I was going to pick it up on its release date, but due to my busy schedule, I was completely not able to. I had to help my aunt move her things to her new place and by then it was 1 in the morning, so I decided to drop by the 24 hour wal-mart to see if they had it.

I looked around, saw Children of Mana, Final Fantasy V advance.. all these brand new games that came out on their release dates..

No FFIII DS >_>;

There were absolutely no representatives around for me to ask at all. So I was about to go home and then I saw this fat balding man stuffing his face with one of those chocolate éclairs. I asked him about it and he walked over to the GBA/DS section and stared for about 2 seconds then went "this is all we have", then continued his face-stuffing. I asked him "Are you sure you don't have it in stock so-" "We don't have it." *continue stuffing face*

:( I still haven't been able to get it since I'm only free after 10pm.

Sux. I'm hoping to get it tomorrow afternoon, try to make some time in between work and work 2. x_x;

The whole time I was thinking "Yeah.. and you guys complain about getting paid shit."

...besides the point: The Wal-Mart is/was selling ps3's at 12:01am today. They didn't allow campers so it was basically first come first serve.



How's the gameplay so far, btw? Is it EXACTLY like FFIII? turnbased like it was? or upgraded into FF4~up?

RJG
11-17-2006, 11:15 AM
I was thinking of getting it, but with saving up for the Wii and all, I'll just wait until a female friend grabs a copy.

Kanthos
11-17-2006, 11:58 AM
The gameplay is exactly like the NES release. The only major changes I've noticed are that you go through the second half of the altar cave solo at the start, pick up the rest of your party by the time you get to Sasoon Castle, and don't get any jobs until after you beat Djinn.

Avatar of Justice
11-17-2006, 02:24 PM
So what exactly does the Wifi part of the game allow you to do? Is it more than just a glorified IM service?

Fire in the Hole
11-17-2006, 08:11 PM
It seems not to be anything more at first glance, but supposedly using it unlocks features like extra items and classes? and a whole extra dungeon.

TSU
11-18-2006, 12:11 AM
The gameplay is exactly like the NES release. The only major changes I've noticed are that you go through the second half of the altar cave solo at the start, pick up the rest of your party by the time you get to Sasoon Castle, and don't get any jobs until after you beat Djinn.

wtf solo!

But I liked having my party members leveling up at the exact same time. TCH.

Fire in the Hole
11-18-2006, 12:58 AM
Unless you're really nit-picking the exact time, the rate at which you can get your party members keeps them pretty much the same level. I messed around a little before getting the last two, though, so I'm usually having two or three a level higher than the rest.

Drack
11-18-2006, 01:33 AM
Difficulty is pretty rough. If you go into the djinn cave before levelling your characters up to have at least 50hp, you'll get destroyed.

Fire in the Hole
11-18-2006, 01:49 AM
Difficulty is pretty rough. If you go into the fjinn cave before levelling your characters up to have at least 50hp, you'll get destroyed.

I think most people would level up enough just finding out what to do to get to that point, though. I killed the Djinn out in one round with the help of one of the ice spell items, and dominated most of the other enemies because I equipped Luneth with the undead-slaying sword from the castle.

NeoForte
11-18-2006, 02:51 AM
The gameplay is exactly like the NES release. The only major changes I've noticed are that you go through the second half of the altar cave solo at the start, pick up the rest of your party by the time you get to Sasoon Castle, and don't get any jobs until after you beat Djinn.

wtf solo!

But I liked having my party members leveling up at the exact same time. TCH.

Don't matter with this game, you start the first cave solo. The others come one by one afterwards. So you guys won't be exact anymore.

Drack
11-19-2006, 03:28 AM
Some tips, so you won't fall into the same pitfalls as I did .. stock way up on items that cure everything .. silence, petrification, etc can very easily take out a party and inns don't cure it. Also, don't die ;) or don't save if you do. Inns don't fix that either, Phoenix downs are not buyable anywhere I've been yet, I dont have a life spell, and the only phoenix downs you DO get are hidden in chests.

However, if someone dies in a BOSS FIGHT, they will be auto revived after you win it... in fact, everyone gets status healed, full hp and spells

[Toasty!]
11-21-2006, 08:22 PM
Also, don't die ;) or don't save if you do. Inns don't fix that either

The inns have been reviving my characters.

Phthisis
11-21-2006, 08:51 PM
Also, don't die ;) or don't save if you do. Inns don't fix that either

The inns have been reviving my characters.

They shouldn't be. It even says in the instruction manual that inns don't cure KO status.

SargeSmash
11-21-2006, 09:34 PM
Don't forget that most towns have a healing pool that brings your characters back to life. You can't know if it's the right one until you check. For example, in the first town, the pools on the left and right in the elder's house have different functions.

Basically, if you use too many Phoenix Downs, restart, regardless. I haven't come across anywhere that sells them yet, and I'm at the surface.

Out of curiosity, what classes is everyone using? I was horribly uncreative and had a Warrior, Monk, BM, and WM. In retrospect, the BM has been virtually worthless except for the magic stat (I have leveraged elemental weaknesses in boss fights to great effect), and probably should have gone with a RM instead. But right before Salonia, I'm using a Dark Knight, Monk, WM, and Evoker. It takes forever to get the Monk powerful, but dang, do they EVER get powerful. Can't wait to upgrade to Black Belt.

Anyway, the game is definitely as good as I remember playing on the NES. Pure old-school, and sometimes that's all you need.

Sarge out.

NeoForte
11-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Don't forget that most towns have a healing pool that brings your characters back to life. You can't know if it's the right one until you check. For example, in the first town, the pools on the left and right in the elder's house have different functions.

Basically, if you use too many Phoenix Downs, restart, regardless. I haven't come across anywhere that sells them yet, and I'm at the surface.

Out of curiosity, what classes is everyone using? I was horribly uncreative and had a Warrior, Monk, BM, and WM. In retrospect, the BM has been virtually worthless except for the magic stat (I have leveraged elemental weaknesses in boss fights to great effect), and probably should have gone with a RM instead. But right before Salonia, I'm using a Dark Knight, Monk, WM, and Evoker. It takes forever to get the Monk powerful, but dang, do they EVER get powerful. Can't wait to upgrade to Black Belt.

Anyway, the game is definitely as good as I remember playing on the NES. Pure old-school, and sometimes that's all you need.

Sarge out.

Right now I'm in Amur. I have Dragoon, Geomancer (holy crap this thing is a powerhouse when it doesn't do Whirlpool), Monk (remember, weapons on them reduce their power a bit but makes their Accuracy go up a lot), and Red Mage. My Red Mage was a Scholar but the lack of real magic support made me change back. I wanted to have Dark Knight and Dragoon in the same PT but I like Monk too much.

Arek the Absolute
11-21-2006, 10:18 PM
SUB CLASSES AAAAAAAAh
If only :(. There are so many bad ass classes, but you can only choose four that you want at a time.
tear :(

Utopoeia
11-21-2006, 10:46 PM
Umm, why does this game suck so much? Maybe I shouldn't have gotten FFV Advance first, which has better graphics (cleaner, brighter, easier to tell what is going on), a more refined job system, a simpler magic system that isn't a D&D rip-off, a better plot, and is less frustrating in general.

NeoForte
11-22-2006, 03:30 AM
Umm, why does this game suck so much? Maybe I shouldn't have gotten FFV Advance first, which has better graphics (cleaner, brighter, easier to tell what is going on), a more refined job system, a simpler magic system that isn't a D&D rip-off, a better plot, and is less frustrating in general.

Yea FFV is a better game but I wouldn't say this one sucked...Think of this as FFV part 1 lol. It has its own charm and style. This game is everybit as colorful as FFV is.

Yea I know what you mean Arek. I was so torn between Dragoon or Dark Knight after I got them...

I-n-j-i-n
11-22-2006, 04:34 AM
Older FF games in general don't have true standalone characters and the games were designed to be frustrating. The plot is absolutely negligible as well. I guess that happens when you're looking at the tail lights of the biggest game franchise of its time: Dragon Quest.

Utopoeia
11-22-2006, 05:36 AM
I understand that the older games sucked more in general, but with all the massive changes they made to the game, you would think they would try and spruce up some of these aspects.

Mr Azar
11-23-2006, 01:03 PM
Dragoon is the coolest looking class! 8)

TSU
11-25-2006, 02:59 PM
Alright! I just got my copy in the mail (along with FF3 DS Skin <3 <3) yesterday and I'm playing it now. The difficulty is a lot harder than the original, I never died from Djinn before.

I'm absolutely loving it, though I wish battles wouldn't have that annoying intro at the beginning.

Just smashed the rock.. I hope it gets more interesting. The zoom function is fun but at the same time annoying. Whatev.

Friend Code: 3222 0746 1488 if anyone wants to send me mail :D

NeoForte
11-26-2006, 07:01 AM
Alright! I just got my copy in the mail (along with FF3 DS Skin <3 <3) yesterday and I'm playing it now. The difficulty is a lot harder than the original, I never died from Djinn before.

I'm absolutely loving it, though I wish battles wouldn't have that annoying intro at the beginning.

Just smashed the rock.. I hope it gets more interesting. The zoom function is fun but at the same time annoying. Whatev.

Friend Code: 3222 0746 1488 if anyone wants to send me mail :D

Funny, I thought this one was a lot easier than the first one. Anyway I added you my code is on the first post.

TSU
11-27-2006, 11:53 AM
Funny, I thought this one was a lot easier than the first one. Anyway I added you my code is on the first post.

Added!

The Author
11-27-2006, 01:50 PM
So I got to the last jobs. I hate going from an 89 monk to a 1 blackbelt, I went from 236 attack to about 120. So now I'm cheating with the job level system doing cake battles until I hit about level 15, where I will go for a cash and powerlevel session. Right now my team is:

Blackbelt (looks cool)
Magus (meh, at least its better than 40 something level 1 spells Black mages)
Devout (I miss 40 something Cures for out of combat. In combat, she gains a lot of punch though. Back in WM form, she could overheal doing a target all curaga.)
Ninja (From warrior to knight, to dark knight, to dragoon, to dark knight to Ninja... odd progression...)

On Odin, my Hasted Monk critted 29 times for a wooping 9000 damage. Cant wait to see that with a BB, which should reach that level of power around job level 25.

NeoForte
11-27-2006, 09:53 PM
So I got to the last jobs. I hate going from an 89 monk to a 1 blackbelt, I went from 236 attack to about 120. So now I'm cheating with the job level system doing cake battles until I hit about level 15, where I will go for a cash and powerlevel session. Right now my team is:

Blackbelt (looks cool)
Magus (meh, at least its better than 40 something level 1 spells Black mages)
Devout (I miss 40 something Cures for out of combat. In combat, she gains a lot of punch though. Back in WM form, she could overheal doing a target all curaga.)
Ninja (From warrior to knight, to dark knight, to dragoon, to dark knight to Ninja... odd progression...)

On Odin, my Hasted Monk critted 29 times for a wooping 9000 damage. Cant wait to see that with a BB, which should reach that level of power around job level 25.

Well I just got the last jobs a while ago (got Onion Knight last night). Magus and Devout in the NES had those 40+ charges for Lv1 spells but for this game all their spells are balanced out. Word of advise, unless you want to wear the best armor and use the best weapons, don't go Ninja. In the NES, Ninja could wear all armor and weapons so they were the overpowered melee job (Sage being the overpowered Mage job since it could use any of the magics at full force, even summons). To balance it out ninja can't wear the best armor, and only weapons they can use are Dark Swords and Ranged weapons (Boomerang + Chakram). Kinda makes sense though, a Ninja shouldn't be wearing Knight armor and be wielding Excalibur + Ragnorok.

My team is:

Dragoon
Summoner
Black Belt
Devout/Sage

I'm still iffy about Devout and Sage cause Ingus as a Devout looks....kinda gay. He wears a pink shirt, with bright red shoes and has a hoodie with cat ears. Although its off its still kinda meh. I'm seeing how good a Sage can be at healing (since it sucks with Summons) and if its good I'm sticking with it.

Arek the Absolute
11-27-2006, 10:57 PM
My game refuses to pick up my wifi router, therefore I am unable to get my friendcode. It is wierd, cause it picks it up for every other ds game I have...

Brycepops
11-27-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm going to go pick up this game tomorrow :D (along with some others, like FFXII). I'll post when I have it :).

NeoForte
11-28-2006, 12:09 AM
My game refuses to pick up my wifi router, therefore I am unable to get my friendcode. It is wierd, cause it picks it up for every other ds game I have...

Did you check your WiFi settings thru the game? If not then weird...

Arek the Absolute
11-28-2006, 12:15 AM
My game refuses to pick up my wifi router, therefore I am unable to get my friendcode. It is wierd, cause it picks it up for every other ds game I have...

Did you check your WiFi settings thru the game? If not then weird...
I am such a retard
Anyhow, when people mastered a class, PLEASE POST IT! I want ultimate weapons :D :D :D

bucky o'hare
11-28-2006, 04:17 AM
So what exactly does the Wifi part of the game allow you to do? Is it more than just a glorified IM service?
It's more like a not-so-glorified IM service. :(
You can only send one message an hour, which I don't think is a terrible idea if they want to make it feel like some sort of mail system within some fantasy game and not just some in-game chat. But at the same time, as already pointed out, writing messages is extremely tedious. They didn't do a good job with it at all. And that is all the wi-fi is for.

Otherwise, I am still very much loving the game! I have to admit to feeling jaded on a lot of modern rpgs, and right now this is a great blend of the classic rpg style with a few more modern aesthetics.

Being able to do everything with just the touch screen is very nice, just tapping on characters to talk, etc. And it doesn't feel like they favored one method of control over the other, so control-wise the game is tight. If you get tired with the stylus, no problem, just play it normally with the buttons.

They didn't make this game easy, which I am happy about. As a port/remake, I find it much more rewarding than the GBA and ps1 ports we've all seen already. :)

Brycepops
12-02-2006, 05:40 AM
My FC is: 3952-2227-7941

:D

NeoForte
12-03-2006, 06:10 AM
So what exactly does the Wifi part of the game allow you to do? Is it more than just a glorified IM service?
It's more like a not-so-glorified IM service. :(
You can only send one message an hour, which I don't think is a terrible idea if they want to make it feel like some sort of mail system within some fantasy game and not just some in-game chat. But at the same time, as already pointed out, writing messages is extremely tedious. They didn't do a good job with it at all. And that is all the wi-fi is for.

Otherwise, I am still very much loving the game! I have to admit to feeling jaded on a lot of modern rpgs, and right now this is a great blend of the classic rpg style with a few more modern aesthetics.

Being able to do everything with just the touch screen is very nice, just tapping on characters to talk, etc. And it doesn't feel like they favored one method of control over the other, so control-wise the game is tight. If you get tired with the stylus, no problem, just play it normally with the buttons.

They didn't make this game easy, which I am happy about. As a port/remake, I find it much more rewarding than the GBA and ps1 ports we've all seen already. :)

Mognet is the only way to obtain the all crappy then all powerful Onion Knight job. As well as people with MASTERED jobs (Lv99) when they send you mail (and when you obtain the quest), you can obtain all new Ultimate Weapons. Also open up mini dungeon to fight a tough optional boss.

Kanthos
12-03-2006, 02:54 PM
You can't just have mastered a job; you need to also have completed part of a chain of sidequests involving the master smith, who rewards you with a card indicating your mastery of a job as well as a unique piece of equipment for that class.

[Toasty!]
12-13-2006, 05:34 PM
I had to quit for a while. The game just became way too frustrating. I'd have two characters learning job levels like crazy, and two that were way lower. The whole transition period between changing jobs is annoying too. I'd get half way through a dungeon, only to need mini or toad. Of course none of my current jobs would have it, so I'd have to switch somebody.

Avatar of Justice
12-13-2006, 05:52 PM
So what exactly does the Wifi part of the game allow you to do? Is it more than just a glorified IM service?
It's more like a not-so-glorified IM service. :(
You can only send one message an hour, which I don't think is a terrible idea if they want to make it feel like some sort of mail system within some fantasy game and not just some in-game chat. But at the same time, as already pointed out, writing messages is extremely tedious. They didn't do a good job with it at all. And that is all the wi-fi is for.

Otherwise, I am still very much loving the game! I have to admit to feeling jaded on a lot of modern rpgs, and right now this is a great blend of the classic rpg style with a few more modern aesthetics.

Being able to do everything with just the touch screen is very nice, just tapping on characters to talk, etc. And it doesn't feel like they favored one method of control over the other, so control-wise the game is tight. If you get tired with the stylus, no problem, just play it normally with the buttons.

They didn't make this game easy, which I am happy about. As a port/remake, I find it much more rewarding than the GBA and ps1 ports we've all seen already. :)

Mognet is the only way to obtain the all crappy then all powerful Onion Knight job. As well as people with MASTERED jobs (Lv99) when they send you mail (and when you obtain the quest), you can obtain all new Ultimate Weapons. Also open up mini dungeon to fight a tough optional boss.

So an RPG which allows me to go off into my own little world and not have to communicate with humans requires me to communicate with humans in order to unlock everything? WHAT THE FUCK?! I want a game console that's all about keeping people apart, disconnected, and seperated from one another.

NeoForte
12-14-2006, 04:24 AM
So what exactly does the Wifi part of the game allow you to do? Is it more than just a glorified IM service?
It's more like a not-so-glorified IM service. :(
You can only send one message an hour, which I don't think is a terrible idea if they want to make it feel like some sort of mail system within some fantasy game and not just some in-game chat. But at the same time, as already pointed out, writing messages is extremely tedious. They didn't do a good job with it at all. And that is all the wi-fi is for.

Otherwise, I am still very much loving the game! I have to admit to feeling jaded on a lot of modern rpgs, and right now this is a great blend of the classic rpg style with a few more modern aesthetics.

Being able to do everything with just the touch screen is very nice, just tapping on characters to talk, etc. And it doesn't feel like they favored one method of control over the other, so control-wise the game is tight. If you get tired with the stylus, no problem, just play it normally with the buttons.

They didn't make this game easy, which I am happy about. As a port/remake, I find it much more rewarding than the GBA and ps1 ports we've all seen already. :)

Mognet is the only way to obtain the all crappy then all powerful Onion Knight job. As well as people with MASTERED jobs (Lv99) when they send you mail (and when you obtain the quest), you can obtain all new Ultimate Weapons. Also open up mini dungeon to fight a tough optional boss.

So an RPG which allows me to go off into my own little world and not have to communicate with humans requires me to communicate with humans in order to unlock everything? WHAT THE FUCK?! I want a game console that's all about keeping people apart, disconnected, and seperated from one another.

I don't see how its that much a problem. All the items gotten thru Mognet are just bonuses that were never in the Original (with the exception of Onion Knight). And Honestly its not that big of a hassle or task to send someone a simple letter. If you don't want to communicate, just don't use it. The main game is the focus, not this. You'll get all you need just playing the main game.

Anyway damn Castlevania taking my FFIII time. I wanna master my jobs already ><

Ebichuman
12-14-2006, 04:46 AM
when I play through this game again I will definatly make use of some of those jobs I never wanted to tough the 1st time through.


monk
black belt (except power lvling & bahamut's lair. 22k xp solo)
Ranger
Bard
Scholar
Summoner
Evoker
Dark Knight.


will NOT use a geomancer when they are 1st available... wow they kick lotsa ass well untill the last few parts of the game. shadowflare ftw.


Final Party=

Ninja
Knight
Devout
Sage

Blueearth
12-18-2006, 11:14 PM
So I am in the so-called world of darkness. Is it true that there is no way to save from the end of the crystal tower to the end of the game? This has taken me a few hours so far and if I die and have to restart from before I entered the tower I'm gonna be PO'ed.

NeoForte
12-19-2006, 03:53 AM
So I am in the so-called world of darkness. Is it true that there is no way to save from the end of the crystal tower to the end of the game? This has taken me a few hours so far and if I die and have to restart from before I entered the tower I'm gonna be PO'ed.

Yes there are no save points in any dungeon. Last save spot is area before entering The Crystal Tower. And yea you die you loss hours of playtime, I've died twice to the damn last boss...

Avatar of Justice
12-29-2006, 02:51 AM
Heh, I actually looked up on GameFAQs how one uses Mognet to unlock the special stuff. I formally retract my bitching that was made before even getting the game. Friend code is 390929895620

JoeFu
12-29-2006, 05:45 AM
OKAY!

I WANT SOME SIDEQUESTS!!!


ADD ME!!!


I think I have mine posted here...


LOOK DOWN TWO POSTS...

Stealthshark
12-29-2006, 06:14 AM
Playing through it now and enjoying it. Does seem a lot easier though. I beat Bahamut at lvl 45 with ONE jump :cry: (had my other units stealing and prepping protect/reflect). Still quite fun though. Current Party is Dragoon, Thief, Evoker, Knight.

JoeFu
12-29-2006, 06:16 AM
NEW CODE!

I don't like using the lite to play this game so I'm using my fat one to play it.

New code is

0258
5769
4933

Brim
12-29-2006, 07:00 AM
So guys, is this game good for someone who hasn't played FF3, and isn't exactly and FF or RPG fan?

Phthisis
12-29-2006, 07:21 AM
So guys, is this game good for someone who hasn't played FF3, and isn't exactly and FF or RPG fan?

Nope. It's extremely old school.