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Antignition

12-13-2006, 07:32 PM

tenchibr

12-18-2006, 09:08 AM

Every once in a while I stop checking OCRemix for a month or two. It absolutely made my day when I come back and see a site project that I had no idea existed be released. I'm also glad I wasn't aware of the project, or the anticipation would have killed me

I'll discuss the songs in-depth after I have listened to the album all the way through a couple times (just started the 3rd disc now). All in all though, I can safely say that I am extremely happy with the results, and can add a few more remixers names to my favorites list.

I don't think this project has gotten nearly enough appreciation yet, thank you to all who were involved.

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On an aside note---

Mr. Snappleman/Jack Meoff, not exactly sure why I find your signature as funny as I do, but the first time I saw it I laughed my ass off, and I still "chuckle" (for lack of a better word) every time I see it.

I gotta say, as a HUGE GIGANTIC LEVEL 2001337 SONIC FAN, when I first heard about Hedgehog Heaven, I was very excited, and I never got tired of hearing it over and over again; in fact, I was satisfied that people took their time to bring tears into my eyes from all the nostalgic feelings from my childhood, which in fact I still feed my Sonic cravings up to today. I never thought another project about Sonic would show up ever again, and I came to visit the OC Website just to get, guess what, a Sonic remix that was metal to be a ringtone for my phone :wink: But instead I get what I would call an instant melodic orgasm into my ears when I first found out about this project and immediately snatched a RANDOM track.

HH was amazing, but this is legendary, and I haven't heard all of it yet, but I know what to expect, what better Christmas gift? I am very excited about this, although a month late, I hope my words still have some impact on all of the people involved in this project, know that I can't wait for more Sonic projects, it's projects like this one and HH that make me proud as a Sonic fan. Good job, actually, scratch that, good is not enough to describe the quality of this project. 'Nuff said.

Kakumei

12-19-2006, 10:41 PM

I just want to go ahead and say that Walk On Water is pretty much one of my favorite songs ever now!

bobxp

12-20-2006, 12:36 PM

I love this. Well, most of it. It's a shame some of them are so bad... but lots of them are extreme pwnage, which makes up for way more than that. :P

Currently listening to Dead Batteries... although Malicious Fingers is my favorite by far.

D.Edge

12-21-2006, 02:19 PM

didn't feel the electronic remixes, but kudos to housethegreat, Snappleman, BrainCells, Kanjika, Hetcenus and Rexy - nice work 8)

Red Shadow

12-21-2006, 04:14 PM

iz güt

iz vrei güt

Sweedumz

12-25-2006, 01:54 AM

I heard about the album recently and after Hedgehog Heaven I just had to get it. S3K was and still is my all time favourite platformer. I still play it to this day. Unfortunately, well... I'm going to give a rundown of each track before I discuss the album in its entireity. I hope you guys like constructive criticism, because believe me, I'm trying to be constructive here.

Scores out of five stars, from one to five.

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101 - SnappleMan - Sonic the Hedgehog and Knuckles (Title)
OK the title. Not much can really be done here. I think it works well.
Score: ***

102 - KungFuChicken! - The Wait is Over! (Data Select)
It's a nice rendition of the menu. Catchy, with zest, and true to the original.
Score: ****

103 - Rexy - Divided from Grace (Angel Island)
Excellent. Great place for the Sonic 3 intro, and I love the 2 act mix. Really evokes the journey through Angel Island Zone. Very well done.
Score: *****

104 - Daniel Baranowsky - Caution-Echidnas May Eat Your Brain (S3 Boss 1)
The funk is with this track. Great remix.
Score: ****

105 - housethegrate - Walk on Water (Hydrocity)
Awww yeah! I'm back in Hydrocity every time I listen to this track. True to the original, but older now, with more experience, and a backing band. And has the second act tune. I love this one.
Score: *****

106 - Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster (Marble Garden)
Vocals, Bad! Country,WORSE!! No! No.
Score: *

107 - Hadyn - Three Ring Nightfall (Carnival Night)
This is an interesting remix. I really like the xylophone. Catchy.
Score: ****

108 - Hetcenus - That Freezing Feeling (IceCap)
This track does not evoke Icecap, or an ice cavern, or an icy lake or mountain or indeed anything from that level. The only tune I can make out isn't even from this game! I just.... I'll... talk about it later.... seriously....
Score: *

109 - Gecko Yamori - Elevator Music (Launch Base)
The track's OK but its problem is that it's just not Launch Base. I'm not feeling anything.
Score: **

110 - GaMeBoX - Robotnik Radio (S&K Boss 1)
This is interesting, but a bit slow for the original. Nice though.
Score: ***

201 - GaMeBoX - iMushroom (Mushroom Hill)
I like this one. The two tracks are there, and it evokes Mushroom Hill very well. It's original, while sticking to the plot.
Score: ****

202 - SnappleMan - Dead Batteries (Flying Battery)
Open the BombBays!!! Great remix. Two acts are represented, the original is recognised and then expanded expertly. I'm right back flying through the level as I listen. And here comes Sandopolis too. Expertly done.
Score: *****

203 - BrainCells - Live at the Sandopolis (Sandopolis)
This one does its job and does it well, going through the desert, then into the tomb, and stays with the original every step of the way. I'm sure there was not a few sand grains lodged in the instuments after this one. Excellent job.
Score *****

204 - Rexy, Hetcenus - Beneath the Ashes (Lava Reef)
I'm not in a volcano. I'm not seeing the Death Egg in the distance. I can at least make out the tune this time, but, no. It just doesn't work. Lava Reef is not a piano level.
Score: *

205 - Kanjika - The Secluded Stronghold (Hidden Palace)
I stand... in awe of this track. It's by far the best in the album. It tells the story! It tells the story!!! I'm all the way back to my first play through this level. The emotion, the excitement, the capitivation. It's all there, and so is the original track. This is incredible. Thank you.
Score: ***** (Mere stars are too vulgar a thing to give this track)

206 - Kanjika - Breathtaking Vision (Sky Sanctuary)
This is just great. What a brilliant remix. It's following the drama too, that nailbiting gauntlet chasing the Death Egg, always against the clock. Do or die time. Brilliant.
Score: *****

207 - BrainCells, SnappleMan - Scrambled Eggman (Boss)
Done and done right. You don't laugh at Dr. Robotnik sir. He laughs at you.
Score: ****

208 - Joker - Before the Storm (Death Egg)
Fairly different, but still evocative of the level, especially the second act. It's got that outer space station vibe. And yes... yes it's there....
Score: ***

209 - SnappleMan - Malicious Fingers (Final Boss)
I would have figured that any S3K album would have to include The Outer Space Machine (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01196/). But you guys went ahead and topped it. Wow. This boss got the remix it richly deserved.
Score: *****

210 - SnappleMan, Ashane, norg - The Doomsday (Doomsday Zone)
Excellent chase music, but just a wee bit too much of a rockalypse. But maybe that was the point. Still, the track still flies through the asteroids and gets the emerald in the end.
Score: ****

211 - Red Tailed Fox - So Long and Thanks for All the... (S3 Credits)
After all the action, we do need to wind down a little. Great choice for a remix.
Score: ****

301 - chthonic - Red Sphere, Blue Sphere (Special Stage)
Anyone who played the Sonic 1 bonus sphere game is going to love this track. I know I did. Remember to clear the perimeters!
Score: *****

302 - Rexy - Schumacher Bar (Competition Menu)
Now this is some nice use of a piano in a song that suits it. Good take on the source material.
Score: ****

303 - Ross Kmet - Momentary Standstill (Azure Lake)
This is faithful to the original and has a nice beat. But I think it lacks the kick Azure lake needed.
Score: ***

304 - Ichitootah - Helium Stairways (Balloon Park)
This track goes to balloon park, but I think wanders out looking for candy too soon.
Score: **

305 - Hetcenus - Ivory Gadget (Chrome Gadget)
....hrmmmm... My best time in Chrome Gadject was 34'40 I think. This was not the track that was playing when I did it.
Score: *

306 - Joker - Heat Blur (Desert Palace)
This seems to play with the oasis or mirage side of Desert Palace. It's a very original remix.
Score: ****

307 - jmr - Eternal Excavation (Endless Mine)
Now this takes me back. I'm setting records all over again. Great interpretation of the original and a great place for a piano.
Score: *****

308 - Rayza - Groove Basin (Azure Lake WIP)
I think this tracks gives a better interpretation of Azure Lake. Keeps the essense of the song and adds well to it.
Score: ****

309 - AkumajoBelmont - Water on the Dancefloor (Hydrocity WIP)
I love the Knights feel to this track. But it does stray a bit too far from the original.
Score: ***

310 - Hadyn - Heads Up for Tails (Final Boss)
I really like this track, and I can tell it must have been a tough choice against 'Fingers. I think the deep notes both help and hinder the track.
Score: ****

311 - Kanjika - Stranger to Closure (S3 Credits WIP)
Trumpets sounding, but I think they may have been overkill for the credits. Could have done with the S&K Theme as a finisher.
Score: ***

312 - GaMeBoX - Ice Cap 4 Life (IceCap WIP)
Gets the tune, but doesn't fully capture the level.
Score: ***

313 - Kanjika - Hydrochill (Hydrocity WIP)
My Hydrocity is popular. This does well in the time it was given
Score: ***

314 - Xenon Odyssey - Lava Passion (Lava Reef WIP)
A proper rendering of Lava Reef. I'm not a great fan of the love song thing here. It's just not the zone.
Score: ***

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OK, now for the bit you're not going to like.

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Overall Score: **
2 (of 5) stars

This may look a bit harsh, especially considering how many great tracks are on this album and how much effort went into it, but I feel this had to be given.

Firstly, the album isn't really complete. No special stage track(s)? Guys! And where's the counterpart to Sonikku Ganbattle, the tribute to the S&K theme? These are serious omissions.

But really whats gone wrong is the Icecap and Lava Reef tracks. I feel I have to address these. Essentially Different tracks do really have different weightings, and these two seriously drag down the whole album. These were the tracks people were waiting for, but were let down on.

Now, maybe you were trying to do something different with the tracks, Icecap in paticular. I can understand that, but please hear me out on this.

Icecap remixes are usually full and heavy. But really they are that way because that's what Icecap is all about. Icecap is not a slow piano track. That's not what the level played like. It was the wrong choice for a remix, very wrong. Seriously. The whole tone of the level is completely absent. Snowboarding, icicles, snow, loops, speed, all AWOL.

I have never heard a truely great remix of Lava Reef, but I have heard enough to know that again, slow piano does not capture the level. This level needs something.... more powerful, deeper. I don't know. But this track just didn't work. It wasn't what Lava Reef was about.

Anyway, enough about the bad, I want to talk about the good.

The best tracks on this album essentially take you back to the level in question, capture its character, and replay the story. Now, what's all this story business you might ask. Well, anyone who realy played S3&K back in the day can tell you that yes this game had a story.

Those crappy little 10 second cut scenes using the games engine were to us, rich with character and drama. So were most things in the game. Backgrounds, sprites, level design. Sometimes you could play the whole two acts of a level just to see Knuckles fall into the lake, or see the Death Egg in the distance. The game had style and depth in its story, and I think that it still stands today as one of the best, if not the best example of how to incorporate story into a game.

The best tracks in the album paid homage to that aspect of the game by recounting the places, themes in each level. They play back the events that made up the journey through the floating island. "Divided from Grace" recalled the firey forest. "Live at the Sandopolis" went down into the spooky tomb and got chased by the ghosts. "The Secluded Stronghold" just..... wow.... its the essence of what I'm talking about, especially since that was a "cut scene" heavy level.

This is what I think a great remix album is all about. Reliving the game through music. But of course some levels are better remembered than others. People will always have their favourite levels that they played the most. It was vital to get those levels right. So now we're back to the bad. "That Freezing Feeling" and "Beneath the Ashes".

I take it that because these two levels, probably the most popular ones, have been remixed so much in the same ways, you wanted to do something different. Again I can appreciate that, but of course that misses the point. By changing the song so much, you're no longer reliving the level. You've left out what makes the song that level's theme. It's a bit like deciding that Sushi has been done to death the way it is and you're going to try cooking the fish instead. It's just too big a step.

Icecap zone in paticular was the zone that was probably the most critical remix in the album. Who could forget the feeling of seeing Sonic snowboard down that slope, slide through the ice caverns. The loops and the speed, the view of icebergs on the lake. The music. It was vital that all those things be represented in the music, but that didn't happen. None of those things were represented. In my opinion, you need to change that rack before this can be considered a true remix album of Sonic 3 and Knuckles. That may seem very harsh, but I feel it must be said.

The same goes for Lava Reef. Perhaps not as critical as Icecap, but still one the memorable levels. I think this level needs its one great remix, which has never been done. Something that evokes the journey through half dormant magma vents. It's just never been done. But I think the version here is just too far off the mark. Lava Reef was about jumping across fire, not lying beneath ashes.

(As a side note, the best Icecap remix I ever heard was an old MIDI called Icecap_Blaster I think. It felt it really emcompassed all aspects of the level and I think anyone wanting to go for a gold remix for Icecap should look that one up.)

So in conclusion 2 of 5 stars. I'm sorry if I seem too danming, but I just had to be honest here. My taste for music probably leaves a lot to be desired, but my love of this game drives me to speak here. As it stands, the album cannot replace the original soundtrack for me in the way Hedgehog Heaven did. I really want it to, but it just can't. Not without those tracks. Again, I'm sorry to be such a downer, but, it just means a lot to me.

GaMeBoX

12-25-2006, 03:03 AM

So... you wrote this long post, put a little grade + a short comment on every tune. Passing down judgement on songs, basically based on your personal taste more than on quality. Thats ok, but you could have spared me all those grades and comments, because they kind of totally loose their meaning the way you did it. Just passing on a snappy comment on a song youre dissing does nothing good, and makes you look more like an ass to me. I can agree that not all of these songs can be liked by everybody, but you have to look at each of these songs from the artists standpoint, and let them have some integrity for chosing to do a piano remix, vocal remix or whatever. A remix can build on a musical concept as much as on the feel/gameplay/atmosphere of a certain stage in a game, and for my own part, i feel, as long as interesting music has been created, then its a success. I believe the artists who have participated in this projects have as high thoughts about the S3&K OST as you, if not even higher, who knows?

Antipode

12-25-2006, 03:21 AM

Saying that you think something is "too slow" (etc) for the original is a good indicator that you don't know the purpose of a remix.

Aristobulus

12-25-2006, 05:34 AM

WIP does mean Work In Progress, right? One of my favorite tracks is actually Water on the Dancefloor but it clearly sounds incomplete, like it just cuts off. There any stated release date?

As for the rest, I honestly loved it all except for Knuckleduster. Vocals very rarely do it for me. It hardly matters the style, just vocals at all.

A few of them, though I still liked, I couldn't hear the source material in it. That Freezing Feeling, while I like it and it certainly does bring to mind snowy mostly iced over glaciers and such during night to me - it doesn't bring to mind *Ice Cap* in particular. I just can't hear ice cap zone in it.

Elevator music, again while I really like it all the same, I can't hear launch base zone in it.

Aside from that I don't have any complaints.

Also I'm probably one of the few to actually think the best tracks on the project are the competition menu + vs mode tracks. Then again it's probably because those source songs always were nostalgic to me for some reason.

watkinzez

12-25-2006, 11:33 AM

Country

rofl?

Sweedumz

12-25-2006, 01:12 PM

Thats ok, but you could have spared me all those grades and comments, because they kind of totally loose their meaning the way you did it.I didn't elaborate my scoring method, so I may as well do it now.

Essentially, it went as follows, but I don't presume to say that my own personal tastes weren't applied where I felt appropriate.

*****: Stays true, a great remix, and replays the game through music.
****: Stays true and imporves upon the original with a great remix.
***: Stays true to the original
**: Nice remix, but strays too far from the theme.
*: Way too far from the original to be an appropriate remix.

That was more or less my method. Tracks like "The Secluded Stronghold" and "Walk on Water", accomplish 5 stars in my own personal view, for what it's worth. 3 stars means the track stayed true to the original. I can't define "staying true", but I know it when I hear it. 1 star means that the song may have been a nice piece of music, but it just wasn't a remix of the level. (To be fair, "Knuckleduster" was probably a 2, but I just don't like vocals in VG remixes.)

A remix can build on a musical concept as much as on the feel/gameplay/atmosphere of a certain stage in a game, and for my own part, i feel, as long as interesting music has been created, then its a success.
I would disagree strongly with that view. If people want to create interesting music, there are other ways to do it. If you want to create a video game remix, you're shouldering an additional responsibility to stay true to the original. If you're going to the effort of making an entire remix album for a game, then that responsibility weighs heavily on you.

Icecap and Lava Reef were keystone tracks. Again I appreciate somthing different was trying to be done, but this wasn't "just another mix" to be added to the substantial pile. This was an OCRemix site project album. When the rest had faded into obscurity, this was still going to be around. As such, these levels needed to be spoken for appropriately. And if it sounded cliched simply because so many people who loved those levels had remixed it so many times, that wasn't the level's fault.

I believe the artists who have participated in this projects have as high thoughts about the S3&K OST as you, if not even higher, who knows?
I've played Sonic 3 and Knuckles a lot. I remember at one point having eight saves so I could play through with each character with or without each special power. I played it non-stop for over 2 years. Constantly. It's one of my Desert Island Games.

I don't mean to say I some kind of S3K guru or sage. I only mean to emphasise that I loved that game. After so much play, I've got certain "impressions" about each level. I think a few of them are right.

Anyway I had to give my opinion, and my opinion is that in this case, experimentation didn't pay off. The important tracks just strayed too far. I'm not a musician, but I am a S3&K player. But I think my opinion would be representative of the latter group.

KyleJCrb

12-25-2006, 03:54 PM

As someone that loves Sonic and played this game as much as you claim to, Sweedumz, I can understand your desire for the nostalgia. But, staying "true" to the original is not necessarily the point of a remix (or at least not on OCR): It's to get musically creative with a pre-existing song and whip it up into something that is your own interpretation. Whether that interpretation invokes the feel of nostalgia is completely up to the remixer, and is only optional, and isn't required for a good remix. I don't necessarily think that an arrangement needs to sound like the original to be good and listenable, because it's often the remixes that don't resemble the original in every aspect that are most interesting. After all, if I wanted to hear the original, I would just listen to the original. :P
You also have to remember that each person has different views, and the way you might interpret a song and how it should sound could vary WILDLY from someone else's view of the same thing. So there you go.

IceCap and Lava Reef aren't a big deal, anyway. There's better levels. :P

Aristobulus

12-25-2006, 04:25 PM

I'd disagree with the idea that a remix doesn't have to sound anything like the source material.

If you do that, then you're basically writing your own, unique song. It's not really a remix then, but an entirely new creation.

I don't come to ocremix to hear new songs. I come to ocremix to hear new imaginative, inventive and interesting twists on songs from games I loved.

After all, if you don't want to create a remix that sounds at all like the original song, why are you even remixing it in the first place? Go somewhere else and just whip up a new song.

zircon

12-25-2006, 04:40 PM

Not wanting ReMixes to be overly liberal (as we call it) is valid. We rejected Hetcenus' Ice Cap mix for that reason, among others. However, site projects are NOT bound to the OCR standards. We don't evaluate every mix on the project and see if it passes our arrangement and production bar. That would be inane and limiting. Site projects like this let artists branch out and do things that they might not normally be "allowed" to do on OCR, yet still get spotlighted on the site. Of course we do prefer if we can post the majority of the songs from the project to the site, if they were submitted.

KyleJCrb

12-25-2006, 05:48 PM

Nineko

12-25-2006, 05:52 PM

Let's just admit that several of these remixes aren't that good.

KyleJCrb

12-25-2006, 06:34 PM

That's to be expected with projects.

Liontamer

12-25-2006, 06:59 PM

We rejected Hetcenus' Ice Cap mix for that reason, among others.
After Jeff clarified what he arranged and gave a time breakdown, I had no qualms about arrangement (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2552974#2552974). I don't think you should have any concerns about that either, but that's not my call. I wanna stress that the "performance" aspect of the track held it back more than any other factors.

From a casual fan's eyes, part of the "problem" of having this track on the project was that most people aren't familiar with the other two source tunes added to the arrangement (from Sonic 1 [Game Gear] and Sonic 3D Blast [Genesis]). So it just sounded like Jefferson was just doing his own original thing most of the time and also barely touching IceCap. And for parts of the IceCap arrangement itself, Jeff altered the rhythms enough where I definitely didn't place the connection strongly enough when I first heard it, so I understand how others didn't make that connection.

Having said all that, I appreciate the mix more than the average listener/"overly liberal" critics, but that's because I'm privy to more information about the creative process and arrangement connections from Hetcenus himself.

If someone had a problem with this track being on a Sonic 3 & Knuckles project, a more sensible argument would have been that material from the other two Sonic games shouldn't have been involved. I don't agree with that arguement personally, but it's at least a more rational arguement given the overall goal of the project (i.e. to tribute S3K, rather than other games).

12-25-2006, 07:29 PM

I played sonic 3d blast and could identify the lava valley addition to the ice cap remix(but i wonder why there was no refernce to the sonic3d ice stage as that would have tied probably better to the snow theme of ice cap.In fact i wonder why it was added to a project that was supposed to be exclusivelly inspired by sonic 3). Nonetheless, launch base,ice cap,lava reef,and death egg, all are themes that many of us listeners find hard to make out.Many of us struggled before we could hear the source tune. Not saying they were bad, just hard to identify.

Also while I myself am a fan of live music and especially the piano,I too felt the ice cap and lava reef themes should have incorporated more instruments than solo piano so that we could here all of the background themes of those original stages only redone.An orchestra for the ice cap including a solo piano piece,or jazz/orchestra for lava reef including the piano,or something ellse.Ice cap and lava reef were my favorite tunes as well in the original game,so I can pretty much understand where the guy above(sweedumz)is coming from.

Hadyn

12-26-2006, 12:49 AM

Just to add something briefly to this argument; I'd not heard the other tunes that were used in the ice cap mix but I still found the whole thing to be damn nostalgic, and it felt really cool when the full ice cap theme really began to shine through.

I loved the mix.

Same goes for Lava Reef.

Aristobulus

12-26-2006, 02:56 AM

I'd disagree with the idea that a remix doesn't have to sound anything like the source material.

I would also disagree with that notion. A remix that has none of the original source material isn't a remix, is it? :P But a remix that branches off and changes up the source material on a very liberal level, and changes the entire feel of the song, but still contains some elements, is still a remix. That's what I was getting at.

After all, if you don't want to create a remix that sounds at all like the original song, why are you even remixing it in the first place?

Because people have different views and ideas on how a certain video game songs can and should sound, and sometimes that vision may include radical departures from what's there to begin with. Certain songs strike people in different ways, so how you think a song should sound when remixed may be completely different from what I think. To me, remixing is only partially nostalgia: Over my years of listening to this stuff, I've come to appreciate the artists themselves more so than the game factor, and I enjoy a lot of remixes from games I've never even touched. Good way to discover new, fun games to play. ;)

It's not just me saying "oh this song sounds like it should be a techno song and if it isn't remixed as techno it sucks". I've heard remixes of songs that were made in a style I never imagined for that specific song, and still liked it.

As I said, most of the songs I'm complaining about, I actually *do* like. They're amazing songs, but I can't call them remixes. That's the thing. It's got nothing to do with what I think a remix for a song should sound like (in fact these remixes in particular still do capture the feeling I think a remix for the respective levels should) it's that I don't think they meet the basic definition of being a *remix*.

Oh, and one of my favorite remixes is Sonic 3D Blast's Blissful Eruption, a song for a game I've played a very few amount of times, only once or twice actually making it to the level the song remixes, and so I don't *at all* know the source song, yet I still love the remix.

The Joker

12-26-2006, 03:48 AM

I still don't understand how people can mis the source in Death Egg. I mean, the entire twinkle parts (which are overly loud... sorry about that) are lifted directly from the song, no real arrangement except for a few omissions.

Also, the little panning synth string is playing the melody, almost note for note. Striked me as odd most people can't hear it. But then again, I, too, am quite odd.

Hadyn

12-26-2006, 06:21 AM

I think people get it if they listen to both, it's just that they expect more of the main melody, rather than having the focus on what was originally a background part... Doesn't matter though, imo, it's good either way =)

housethegrate

12-27-2006, 06:26 AM

Cheesus Crust, you guys. This argument has been beaten nearly to death. The only reason it's not actually dead is because people will always disagree on it! I don't give a fuck if someone thinks my arrangements "stay true" or not, because the arrangement is my creation.

This is all I have to say on the matter.

Hadyn

12-27-2006, 07:30 AM

Yeah, but everyone loves your arrangement =P

housethegrate

12-27-2006, 07:39 AM

Well, I have been criticized before for staying too close to the original (Seized with Fury).

HustlerOne

12-27-2006, 04:33 PM

Xenon Odyssey

12-27-2006, 10:45 PM

Hey SnappleMan & Team, I wanted to commend you guys on creating this excellent collaborative project that has made for an enjoyable commute for quite some time. I just wanted to ask you guys if there was anything done about the WIP tracks as they do not import properly into iTunes. All I hear is garbled noise and I've tried redownloading the files from different sources to no luck. Any ideas? Thanks again for all your hard work.

1) Download GoldWave (http://www.goldwave.com)
2) Open up said WIP files in program (one at a time).
3) "File, Save As" the same file name
4) Problem solved.

i've done this and they work. someone update the website or something cuz i don't feel like hosting the songs again on SendSpace or RapidShit.

Hadyn

12-27-2006, 11:27 PM

Thanks man, I updated the site with those steps on the front page =)

Terial

01-02-2007, 09:32 PM

So... what ever happened to being able to download all the WIPs? I remb they were going to be on the teaser site and then avaliable for download after the project was released... *is still waiting* =(

KyleJCrb

01-02-2007, 11:06 PM

Pretty sure the plan is to release them over time, not all at once.

Terial

01-03-2007, 04:01 PM

ok ^^ so long as they get thrown somewhere on the public domain

BigBoss

01-03-2007, 05:08 PM

Best Project Ever. Seriously. Ever since the Doom one, they'd been going downhill.

Rexy

01-03-2007, 09:27 PM

I'm probably a bit late for this now, but to the guy who thought that we missed certain themes out, I would have thought that there were so much musics in the game itself that covering them would merely cause more time than they were worth. When it started out, all the tracks were to be planned on covering the two discs as they were, but it seemed more logical to make a bonus one out of the race and special stage themes. That's possibly the reason why some of the other jingles/bonus musics weren't included.

Also, I don't think we would have wanted another Sonniku Ganbatte. While the idea was cute, there's no way in HELL we would come to appreciate that as an approachable song. I bet Rama won't even let it on Remix: ThaSauce if you ask me. So by this rate, I don't think we could even risk it again. You even got your fix by Snaps doing the title screen music which sounded a ilttle similar to it, so I hope it would serve as some kind of compensation or whatever.

RePENT

01-16-2007, 01:44 AM

You probably don't need to hear this again, but this music is seriously kickass and very well executed. Stands alone as quality stuff whether you know the Sonic music or not; I only know some of it and I still really enjoy this project.

-RK-

01-16-2007, 02:50 AM

russ

01-16-2007, 05:48 AM

First off I'd like to go ahead and jump on the "this is the coolest collection of remixes ever" bandwagon. Seriously though, the songs span so many different genres and manage to be both great individually and as a whole.

Regarding Joker's "Before the Storm": Although I enjoy the original Death Egg Zone tracks, I really appreciate this one as well. Joker managed to blend in some of his own original interpretation with the main theme of the original track. You seriously can't tell me the beginning of his song isn't cool. I've had Project Chaos playing in my car for a few weeks, and with some nice subwoofers, the intro is just frighteningly awesome. Good work.

And personally, my favorite track of the lot is house's Walk on Water. The jazzy/prog rock feel of it just grabs me by the nuts. In fact, I'm working on restoring my paypal balance just so I can buy house's new CD, so I can officially own something with that track on it. (edit: I love all of your other remixes too, but you know what I mean)

RePENT

01-20-2007, 03:50 AM

And personally, my favorite track of the lot is house's Walk on Water. The jazzy/prog rock feel of it just grabs me by the nuts. In fact,

Hahaha no shit! It's my favourite as well for the same basic reason (at least, for now...), and seems to be the favourite among a lot of people.

DJDarkmaster

01-24-2007, 02:12 PM

This project as a whole is as said b4. Awesome.
I cant wait to see the comleted versions of Water On The Dance Floor and Groove Basin.

Xenon Odyssey

01-24-2007, 07:22 PM

This project as a whole is as said b4. Awesome.
I cant wait to see the comleted versions of Water On The Dance Floor and Groove Basin.

Groove Basin will sadly not be completed, as Rayza experienced a hard drive crash in which he lost the project file.

If it was completed it would have been on the project...I believe Snapple had to search around to make sure that was the latest version of the WIP to include it with the bonus tracks.

On a lighter note, I finished my song and it's sitting in the queue. So we'll probably see it in early 2010 by this rate if all goes well.

DJDarkmaster

01-25-2007, 05:07 PM

Groove Basin will sadly not be completed, as Rayza experienced a hard drive crash in which he lost the project file.

If it was completed it would have been on the project...I believe Snapple had to search around to make sure that was the latest version of the WIP to include it with the bonus tracks.

On a lighter note, I finished my song and it's sitting in the queue. So we'll probably see it in early 2010 by this rate if all goes well.
O_O 2010! are you serious?!?!?!
I am sorry to hear that... coudnt he use a hard disk recovery program to get it?

GameKyuubi

01-25-2007, 06:01 PM

This is definitely my favorite site project. Almost everything here is of the utmost quality; very very impressive. Favorites include Knuckleduster, Breathtaking Vision, Dead Batteries, and Walk on Water. I usually don't like vocals in my remixes, but Knuckleduster has definitely clarified that they can be done, and quite well. Walk on Water is genius, especially with that Act 2 transition. We need more of that Act 2 love in Sonic mixes. Elevator Music reminds me of Monkey Ball for some reason lol. GREAT JOB :D

Oh yeah. I can't seem to get the flash project site to work any more. :(

Xenon Odyssey

01-25-2007, 08:10 PM

O_O 2010! are you serious?!?!?!
I am sorry to hear that... coudnt he use a hard disk recovery program to get it?

I believe it also corrupted the file, but I'm not positive about that. Also this was way back in 2004 I believe; not recent at all.

RePENT

01-27-2007, 02:51 AM

Hmm, I'm really liking "Live at the Sandopolis" lately, the metal sensibilities are really appealing to my metalhead side haha.... My favourite track keeps changing.

Jacko

01-28-2007, 05:09 AM

Hey All,

I wish I found out about this a long time ago. This is an awesome site project and every mix impresses me to a great extent. So Long and Thenks for All the... was a beautiful rendition of the ending and just like when I listen to the one from the game it makes me sad, this one does to, but that adds to the whole experience of the mix.

Both of Kanijikas remixes are awesome, I have to ask were they recorded with a real orchestra, because if they weren't I was convinced.

SnappleMan, your stuff is good, eventhough I don't really like metal music I still like it.

Anyone who has not downloaded this needs to as its awesome and you just can't get enough of it.

Thanks All
Jacko

ocremixfan

02-05-2007, 10:52 AM

A very nice project indeed! Awesome job!

My main complain about it is that many songs got too far from the original, hardly recognizable (e.g: the icecap one, can't remember the title)

Other than that, excellent work! I absolutely *LOVE* 'Three Ring Nightfall'... never liked that stage song (the stage itself? even worse), but the remix is great! I also like 'The Secluded Stronghold', 'Breathtaking Vision', 'Malicious Fingers' and 'The Doomsday' a lot.
Extra comment about 'Malicious Fingers' : damn first 23 seconds! Hate game effects used "carelessly"... then a "game recording" like this... eek! I guess I'll cut that piece out in my mp3! :p

Thank you guys! Nice additions to my playlist! ;)
ocrfan

DJDarkmaster

02-05-2007, 02:52 PM

just wondering does anybody know approx. when water on the dancefloor is going to be finished?
so far it has tuned out to be a vey good remix...

ocremixfan

02-05-2007, 05:59 PM

... when water on the dancefloor is going to be finished? ...

I guess it never will...
I think that the WIP tracks where abandoned for some reason and are in the bonus disc just for the sake of it!
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong!

Xenon Odyssey

02-05-2007, 08:23 PM

I guess it never will...
I think that the WIP tracks where abandoned for some reason and are in the bonus disc just for the sake of it!
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong!

Most of the bonus tracks were written originally to be that track on the project. In the end, they got beaten out by another track, and therefore the artist probably didn't care too much to go ahead and finish what they started, unless they really liked it.

My track, I've completed and sent into the queue, but who knows how long that will take...my site on googlepages has it hosted, though, if you are dying to hear it.

SnappleMan

02-06-2007, 02:39 AM

Extra comment about 'Malicious Fingers' : damn first 23 seconds! Hate game effects used "carelessly"... then a "game recording" like this... eek! I guess I'll cut that piece out in my mp3! :p

I'd apreciate if you didn't do that. :(

The Joker

02-06-2007, 07:10 AM

Most of the bonus tracks were written originally to be that track on the project. In the end, they got beaten out by another track, and therefore the artist probably didn't care too much to go ahead and finish what they started, unless they really liked it.

Actually, I think it's more like some tracks didn;t get finished in time, & were abandoned so to speak.

ocremixfan

02-06-2007, 09:56 AM

... My track, I've completed and sent into the queue, but who knows how long that will take...

Not a second longer... unfortunately rejected! :(
http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5043

I'd apreciate if you didn't do that. :(

I'll think about that :p
But don't worry... it would never be shared! (if that's why you're worried...)

DJDarkmaster

02-07-2007, 04:57 PM

I'd apreciate if you didn't do that. :(

I'll think about that :p
But don't worry... it would never be shared! (if that's why you're worried...)

IMHO, it is one thing to edit a song or some other person's intellectual property for yourself but it is wrong to modify and distribute the work without prior consent of the owner of said work...

Antipode

02-08-2007, 04:10 PM

I think it's more because Snapple made the song, and that section is part of the song. If you edit it down it's not entirely his song anymore. Sort of like an insult to his original idea.

ocremixfan

02-08-2007, 05:13 PM

I think it's more because Snapple made the song, and that section is part of the song. If you edit it down it's not entirely his song anymore. Sort of like an insult to his original idea.

He might feel like it, but he sure knows that nobody is forced to like no music or remixing style... I tend to hate all remixes with jazz/blues style, no matter the remixer, for example.
Anyway, calm down! I mean no offense to anyone! If it's that bad, I'll not touch it, ok?
Everything fine now? Nobody will hunt me down, right? :p

TheCheese

02-12-2007, 01:46 AM

SnappleMan, what synth did you use for the solos in Malicious Fingers? That sounded really good.

zircon

02-12-2007, 03:46 AM

Native Instruments Pro-53

SnappleMan

02-12-2007, 10:42 AM

Yeah, what NON-SNAPPLEMAN SAID!

Ofunniku

02-25-2007, 06:34 AM

Is there a Flac release for this? Because I like to get the Flac version and transcode it to 96kbps Wma Pro (that's v10 not v9, which is crap).

I've transcoded the Mp3's to Wma Pro 96kbps already. The quality is good, but nothing like the files I've transcoded from Project phobos (Flac source)

Hadyn

02-25-2007, 07:55 AM

What you see on the site is all there is. There was never a higher-quality release.

Ofunniku

02-26-2007, 11:02 AM

Ok, thanks much.

I really love Heads up for Tails and what you did @ 1:25 and 1:38, by the way

Hadyn

02-26-2007, 12:26 PM

No worries, I'm glad you enjoyed it anyways =)

Thistletooth

03-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Official first post, the post I registered in order to...post. Of course, that should only make my coming comments all the more heartfelt and believeable. :D

I've been a fan of gaming music since at least 1990 (before the music got good, in retrospect), and gaming music has been THE music of my life, for better or worse. Eighty years from now, I'll probably still be rockin' out to music from FF, Soul Calibur, Castlevania, etc. As such, OCRemix has been a godsend for me, allowing me to expand my fascination with gaming music into strange new places. The thought of remixing professional compositions into opuses that sometimes exceed the originals is mind-boggling to me.

But anyway, I wanted to drop in and give the bulk of my props to Hadyn for his work "Three Ring Nightfall". It's not my favorite remixed composition, but I think it's the best remixed piece of music I've heard. Most of my other favorites - such as Seized with Fury (FFVI), Curse Curse Revolution (Castlevania IV), Sudden Death (Super Metroid), Army Girl (SSF2T) - were based off of pieces that I had loved for years.

"Carnival Night Zone", in contrast, was a piece that would irritate me to no end whenenever I would play Sonic 3. The games usually stood out for having catchy, bouncy highly-synthesized bits of awesome, but that track was most certainly an exception. To think about it, I wouldn't even know how to approach that tune with the intent on bettering it. But nonetheless, Hadyn took that lump of coal, squeezed it in his mighty grip, and out popped a diamond. No other track that I've heard on this site has improved on its source material more than has "Three Ring Nightfall". It works well as background music for when I'm 'puting or as front-and-center music for Ipodding. It strikes the perfect balance of ambience and sweeping melody. Full props to you, Hadyn; I am in awe. And I'll be sure to look out for your future work.

Tenucha

03-07-2007, 11:35 PM

Hello, and welcome to the Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos feedback and opinions thread!

Here is the link to the project:

www.s3k.ocremix.org (http://www.s3k.ocremix.org)

So download it, spread the word, listen to it, love it, hate it, make sweet love to it, and most importantly TELL US WHAT YOU THINK OF IT! :)

Thanks to everyone for their patience and support, I hope all of your waiting has been rewarded, do enjoy this wonderful project, everyone!

I think the project turned out very well!.
My favoruite tracks are the really fast rock ones which is exactly how I have invisioned Sonic music... I mean... he's the fastest thing alive? So what bette rto compliment him?!

It's a very impressive project.

My only thing... and this is actually why I went ahead and signed up for an account:
I can not get "Heads Up For Tails" to sucessfully copy to a CD. It will not successfully burn.
I have 3 ruined CDs in the trashcan behind me now.
Mirror 2's version crashed iTunes, Real Player and Windows Media Player while trying to burn it. Mirror 3 went ahead and burned to disc however when the song should be playing in the CD it's just silence for the songs duration.
What's with this?
Has that happened for anyone else?

Tenucha

03-09-2007, 05:21 AM

Does anyone else have this issue?
It's highly annoying. I downloaded a couple other mirrors and those ones dont work at all.
the ones that do work do not burn to disc however will play in my music player

Midori

03-14-2007, 02:11 AM

I.Medley

03-14-2007, 03:21 AM

I LOVE all these remixes, they are AMAZING

Specially BrainCells, Kanjika, and Snappleman, You guys rock!

Im a little confuseds though, is the whole project released yet? Becuase there are still songs on your flash site that arent on the release page

And if there is gonna be more, is there a date it will be done?

(P.S. Groove Basin, Live At Sandopolis, Breathtaking Vision FTW XD)

The songs are the teaser site were meant to be just that: a teaser. They are not intended to be released. In some instances, the songs can't even be completed (as is the case with Groove Basin, which was lost after Rayza's hard drive crashed).

I take it you mean Sand Cafe by Darkesword, not Live at the Sandopolis by BrainCells.

Tenucha

03-14-2007, 07:32 AM

Can anyone help at all with the disc 3 issue?!

Hadyn

03-14-2007, 09:00 AM

Try opening the files in an audio-editting program, re-encoding them (as mp3's/wav's/whatever), and burning the newer, re-encoded files. Should work!

Taore

03-14-2007, 09:55 AM

Hadyn or anyone else, I have loaded (but not played, as it ends up halting) the songs in Foobar2000 and I can still get properties in them. It says the encoding is MP1 instead of MP3, so I guess that's the problem. The sample rate is 32000hz as well, which is a shame!

I'd love a .flac release (though I'm sure it won't happen, since it hasn't already), but at least couldn't it be possible to update those files (seems to be disc 3 track 8+, but I'm sure you know that!) and post in this thread? I can't help being a bit of an obsessive person, having 32000 files (even if I upped them to 44100hz) disturbs me. :D

Great work guys! Some of them I honestly don't like, I'm not fond of piano remixes unless the original was pretty much just that, but some of the heavy tracks and electronic ones... They are exactly what I'd want from them. Brilliant. Thanks!

SnappleMan

03-14-2007, 06:32 PM

Which of the files are in 32000khz?

Taore

03-14-2007, 11:02 PM

Well I was sure before, but... I opened up the files (308-314, so the last half of the disc 3 ones) in Audition and they all opened as 44100hz. So I'm not sure if Foobar2000 was reporting correctly or not... I'm assuming not...

However, it did say mpg1 (which I assume it means mpeg layer I), rather than 3 like all the rest. Maybe that's the problem? Perhaps the program that converted to .mp3 used the wrong layer?

But yes, sorry about that, I think I was wrong about the 32000hz. I should've double-checked with another program before posting, how embarassing. :oops:

SnappleMan

03-15-2007, 04:22 AM

The main project MP3s were encoded under the highest quality VBR settings. There is pretty much no loss of quality between that and the original WAV files. The bonus material, that was all encoded by each individual artist, so if there are any problems with those just re-encode them yourself.

Ragnor

03-20-2007, 09:16 AM

Great album. Easily one of the best i've ever heard, and way beyond my expectations.

Although it took a while to warm up to it, once I did, it became my most played album for a few weeks.

At first, after playing through the first Disc, I was partially let down, as Icecap Zone, and Launch Base Zone were at first, utter unrecogniseable, and seemed to fly past without me noticing them, and the fact the whole disc was rather quiet and peaceful.

However, with time, this faded. Rather than give feedback on the whole album, I'll comment on the first disc for now (Dont want to clutter the page with a GIANT wall now do we?)

The first track took me by surprise, as I wasnt expecting an actual track from the opening, nor it to go "SEGA!" but the short peice was awesome and sets the scene pretty well.

Second track, is a normalish track which I expected, good, but not overly great, but, it helps build the setting, as the album progresses. All in all, when you take into account that Track Two is the save data ascreen, from which you acess the main game, the fact this role carried on to the track is pretty cool. Well done to the person who pulled that off

The third track, seems like a continuation of the second at times, but does indeed have the feel of Angel Island Zone, if rather slow. Also, I keep hearing stuff that sounds like other games in there (I swear I hear a theme from Spyro near the start..)

Fourth, is rather good, its also where the album seriously picks up the pace as far as im concerned. The miniboss theme from the original game was always pretty dismal and didnt sound like a boss theme in any way to me. Therefore, I was dubious as to how this track would turn out, but in the end, it was great, and amazed me with how the same boring tune was reused to make this track.

Fifth, is one of the best on the entire album, I just love the sound of it, which is strange since I at first, didnt like the Hydrocity theme. Now I cant get enough of it. Words cant really describe how much I like this one

Six is an oddball track. It has a strange sound to it, and lyrics but I like it nonetheless for its unique feel to the rest of the album. Especially as the lyrics near the end match the Marble Garden theme :p

Seven, this one, I was really curious as to how it would turn out. A theme for a carnival zone, remixed. But I love how it turned out, and the start of it sounds like a track from the Rachet and Clank series. I always look forward to this track when playing the album

Eight, I was really looking forward to hearing how Icecap was going to done this time, but on my initial play, I seemed to miss it, only to think "Huh, where was Icecap?" I must say, the drastic change shocked me at first, but I quickly grew to like it, and the more its played the more I get a feel for it. At first I could barely hear the faint Icecap tune.

Nine..this track surprised me. I was expecting something like "Launchface" but it turned out to be something so much different. I seriously cannot hear the Launchbase theme in here ANYWHERE. That said, it strangely feels as if it IS the theme, itt defintely has a connection. Despite not hearing the Launchbase theme, I still like this track a lot, and brings the main part of the disc to a nice close

The final track, I hear it is supposed to be the miniboss theme from Sonic and Knuckles, but..I dont hear any similarities. Its a lovely closing track that finishes the disc regardless.

I was surprised that the last track wasnt the ending theme from Sonic 3. As the Disc 1 is Sonic 3, and Disc 2 is Sonic and Knuckles, I figured it would be there..

Also, I was surprised at the lack of the "Knuckles Theme" from Sonic 3

KyleJCrb

03-20-2007, 01:42 PM

The third track, seems like a continuation of the second at times, but does indeed have the feel of Angel Island Zone, if rather slow. Also, I keep hearing stuff that sounds like other games in there (I swear I hear a theme from Spyro near the start..)

Six is an oddball track. It has a strange sound to it, and lyrics but I like it nonetheless for its unique feel to the rest of the album. Especially as the lyrics near the end match the Marble Garden theme :p

I was surprised that the last track wasnt the ending theme from Sonic 3. As the Disc 1 is Sonic 3, and Disc 2 is Sonic and Knuckles, I figured it would be there..

Also, I was surprised at the lack of the "Knuckles Theme" from Sonic 3

Given Rexy's affinity for it, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Spyro in her track. She loves sneaking bits of other themes into her remixes like that.

The singing in Knuckleduster actually matches the original Marble Garden all the way through. Listen closely. ;-)

I think they used the Sonic 3 theme to end the main project with because Sonic & Knuckles doesn't have a dedicated ending theme (just a medley of all the S&K zone songs).

Isn't Knuckles' S3 theme quoted in "Echidnas Will Eat Your Brain"?

erdath

03-20-2007, 02:04 PM

I sketched out a moving storyboard for KNUCKLEDUSTER from Project Chaos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1bMU0tlIw
So enjoy, I guess

José the Bronx Rican

03-20-2007, 03:04 PM

That's seriously brilliant.
Worthy of a finished work.
It also reminded me of an idea I had running around in my head years ago, after the "Sonic Boom" CD was released: a rather dramatic short with Spencer Nilsen's rendition of Sonic Spinball's so-called "Flight To Volcanic Fortress," based on the game's opening. Man, just wait 'till I get around to using Toon Boom or something...
:nicework:

Murmeli Walan

03-20-2007, 03:33 PM

That was very enjoyable, even in storyboard form.

Black Mage

03-20-2007, 03:44 PM

Awesome, very.

Geoffrey Taucer

03-20-2007, 04:26 PM

That was sweet.

Fishy

03-20-2007, 04:47 PM

The singing in Knuckleduster actually matches the original Marble Garden all the way through. Listen closely. ;-)

When I play that level I sing the words along and can concur, they are a perfect match.

LuIzA

03-20-2007, 04:55 PM

damn awesome, great work! =)

Fishy

03-20-2007, 04:59 PM

Wow, that was really cool. Sonic doing the piano bit was really nice.

danny B

03-20-2007, 05:05 PM

i get to be knuckles.

nyah nyah-nyah nyah-nyaaaaah nyaaaah

avaris

03-20-2007, 05:06 PM

That was friggin awesome! The part where sonic was playin with the piano one hand was hillarious.

Kanthos

03-20-2007, 05:51 PM

Awesome job!

My only very minor and generally irrelevant complaint is that Sonic's piano playing, a nice touch, was a bit inaccurate. He hit the same key at different times to play different notes. At least make him use a pitch bend wheel or something :D

djpretzel

03-20-2007, 06:35 PM

I've created an official OCR YouTube group and added this video to it at http://www.youtube.com/group/ocremix.

Dhsu

03-20-2007, 06:40 PM

animated GIFs plz

Ragnor

03-21-2007, 04:12 AM

I haven't been able to match the main lyrics to the theme strangely, despite having almost all the Sonic 3 and Knuckles original tracks burnt to a disc. But now that I am aware of this, I will probably notice..

Yeah, I know the Sonic 3 ending theme was supposedly on Disc 2, but I was still expecting it to be on Disc 1, with a crazily awesome remix of the S&K ending theme (Its been done before, an official remix album for Sonic and Knuckles had an 10 minute+ remix of the ending theme. Sure enough it doesn't need to be that long, but man, when I imagine what could be done..) and as for the Knuckles Theme, the fourth track is indeed similar to the Knuckles Theme, but I was expecting a separate track, most likely on Disc 3 (Disc 3, I figured it would be all the side tracks, like the Bonus Rounds)

Rexy

03-21-2007, 08:51 AM

Given Rexy's affinity for it, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Spyro in her track. She loves sneaking bits of other themes into her remixes like that.
Both aspects can be true - I can sneak in other themes at times, and I have a passion for Spyro the Dragon. However, the intro is actually referencing to Sonic 3's title music. Though, I do see where he's coming from with the rhodes piano and whatnot; I do see the uncanny similarity in musical style.

Ragnor, your commentary is very well detailed; thank you for taking the time to express your opinions :)

pw2374

03-21-2007, 11:18 AM

Hi All,

Just thought I would drop some feedback on the album. Overall pretty cool, glad someone followed up with a Hedgehog Heaven style album for Sonic 3.

I really loved some of the tracks like 105 Walk on Water (finally a brilliant remix of Hydrocity), 107 Three Ring Nightfall for Carnival Night, and I was paticularly fond of the tracks by Kanjika for Hidden Palace and Sky Sanctuary, I think these two not only hit the mark but flew past it. My personal credo is that a good remix has to be close enough to the original music so you can recognise it, but also remaster it in a new and exciting way. And these tracks really did that brilliantly.

But I gotta admit, I felt a few tracks were a bit lacking, like That Freezing Feeling for IceCap. I know Icecap is a daunting one as it's everyones favourite, but I feel this track didn't capture the umph of the original music, it was too soft and boring.

And one in paticular I hated, and thats 110 Robotnik Radio, I can in no way hear how that track relates in any way to the original Sonic 3 Launch Base Final Boss.... aside from having the spring/star noise in, I wouldn't even suspect it was linked to Sonic in general. Feel it was a poor choice to include that one.

Overall good album, although I would say maybe a second edition could be done and some changes made? I would say that Haydn's Head up for Tails is better than Snapples Malcious Fingers for the Pre-Doomsday Final Boss.

Also, give some consideration to including existing work in the album. Although Snapplemans Dead Batteries is a really good take on Flying Battery, I've always felt the top track ever for Flying Battery is Catapult by Beatdrop, similarly the best Lava Reef track has got to be Lava Reach by JiveMaster.

Thats my two cents anyway.

Laters

- Pw2374

KyleJCrb

03-21-2007, 01:52 PM

Overall good album, although I would say maybe a second edition could be done and some changes made? I would say that Haydn's Head up for Tails is better than Snapples Malcious Fingers for the Pre-Doomsday Final Boss.

:shock:

Come on, Malicious Fingers is probably the best track on here! :? No offense to Hadyn, of course.

Xenon Odyssey

03-21-2007, 07:15 PM

maybe a second edition

lulz
10charlimit

KyleJCrb

03-22-2007, 10:54 AM

Did anyone catch this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1bMU0tlIw

Xenon Odyssey

03-22-2007, 03:51 PM

Did anyone catch this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1bMU0tlIw

Yes. http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8497

TrueLugia121

03-25-2007, 12:10 AM

why can't the main soundtrack be in one CD instead of two? it's about 77 minutes isn't the main soundtrack?

SnappleMan

03-25-2007, 11:01 AM

Did anyone catch this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1bMU0tlIw

That's great! :)

InertiaCreep

03-26-2007, 09:41 PM

I'd just like to say that I love each, and every person that was involved with this. That is all.

Tenucha

03-27-2007, 08:36 AM

Try opening the files in an audio-editting program, re-encoding them (as mp3's/wav's/whatever), and burning the newer, re-encoded files. Should work!

As I have stated... I cant get the programs to run properly as I apparently have alot of missing components the program needs to run...

I'd just like to say that I love each, and every person that was involved with this. That is all.

Agreed. There was obviously alot of passion, detial and care that went into creating each songs remix. Very worthy soundtrack.... and with great replay value.

There are still a umber of songs I havn't been able to download yet... *sigh*

I.Medley

03-28-2007, 09:17 AM

why can't the main soundtrack be in one CD instead of two? it's about 77 minutes isn't the main soundtrack?

So just put them on one CD, then. There's nothing keeping you from doing so.

Ragnor

03-28-2007, 03:43 PM

Both aspects can be true - I can sneak in other themes at times, and I have a passion for Spyro the Dragon. However, the intro is actually referencing to Sonic 3's title music. Though, I do see where he's coming from with the rhodes piano and whatnot; I do see the uncanny similarity in musical style.

Ragnor, your commentary is very well detailed; thank you for taking the time to express your opinions :)

Your welcome. I apologise if any criticism was taken the wrong way by anyone.

EDIT: Also, to the person commenting on why there are on two discs, despite being to it on a single disc, It is because Disc 1 is Sonic 3, Disc 2 is Sonic and Knuckles and Disc 3 is the stuff on the side + Bonus Tracks

ManniX

03-28-2007, 10:32 PM

Well, I just found this collaboration of remixes and you guys have no idea how much joy it has brought me :)

S3 + Knuckles was the game of my childhood and I still play it regularly now, the orginal music was, as I'm sure everyone would agree, amazing and to see a remix of it done so well is great to see. From listening I can tell theres been a lot of effort gone into it and it really has paid off. Great job guys.

Highlights for me were:

Walk on Water - Inclusion of both Act 1 and 2 was fantastic.
Elevator Music
Dead Batteries
The Secluded Stronghold - Was this done by a real orchestra?
Before the Storm
Malicious Fingers
The Doomsday
The S3 Credits
Helium Stairways
And Icecap 4 Life

Thankyou so much. :)

superjoe30

04-09-2007, 02:43 AM

This looks fantastic! I'm downloading it right now, but is there somewhere I can buy the fully packaged CD?

Xenon Odyssey

04-09-2007, 03:56 AM

Ha, there is no fully packaged CD. You download the songs and burn them to a CD, and print out the CD labels for yourself.

Ashram

04-14-2007, 08:41 PM

superjoe30

04-15-2007, 05:15 AM

First off, sweet deal, guys. This album is great. Let me get my complaints out of the way first.
1. The Ice Cap Zone was slaughtered. It deserved a huge seat of glory, but it was left with a raw piano that hardly carried the ice cap tune. Don't get me wrong, Hetcenus. The piano sounded good. However, it was plain and a bit boring. That goes for you too Rexy. I think Big Giant Circles's "Eastern Ice Field" deserved the spot.
2. Most of the bonus CD songs were better than the first two CDs. What's up with that? Who chose which songs made the final cut?

--

Other than that, guys, it was awesome. Good work. You know, I am okay with some slow piano songs if there are good ones surrounding it. Highlights for me were (1 being the most rockin' awesome):
1. Red Sphere, Blue Sphere
2. Breathtaking Vision
3. Heat Blur
4. Three Ring Nightfall
5. Live at the Sandopolis
6. Dead Batteries
7. Groove Basin
8. Heads Up for Tails
9. Ice Cap 4 Life
10.Lava Passion

All right, and I have a question for Red Tailed Fox. Who sucks cock? I can't catch that first word. So long, and thanks for all the remixes.

KyleJCrb

04-15-2007, 05:47 AM

First off, sweet deal, guys. This album is great. Let me get my complaints out of the way first.
1. The Ice Cap Zone was slaughtered. It deserved a huge seat of glory, but it was left with a raw piano that hardly carried the ice cap tune. Don't get me wrong, Hetcenus. The piano sounded good. However, it was plain and a bit boring. That goes for you too Rexy. I think Big Giant Circles's "Eastern Ice Field" deserved the spot.
2. Most of the bonus CD songs were better than the first two CDs. What's up with that? Who chose which songs made the final cut?

Ultimately the decision was up to SnappleMan, but I think most of the songs ended up dwindling down to having one remixer assigned to them, so what they made is what is on the project.

Big Giant Circles' track is several months late. :P

jmr

04-15-2007, 02:52 PM

Why does everyone dislike Hetcenus's Ice Cap remix? I personally love it; I consider it to be one of the best on the whole project. The arrangement is one of the best I've heard, even if it does border on being to liberal.

The Derrit

04-15-2007, 05:54 PM

I think people didn't like it because it didn't really fit the feel of the rest of the album. You're drifting along, listening to mostly uptempo, pseduo-electronic music, and all of a sudden it goes straight to a single piano. I agree individually it's great, but if you're listening to the whole album it really does stick out like a sore thumb.

SnappleMan

04-15-2007, 11:20 PM

2. Most of the bonus CD songs were better than the first two CDs. What's up with that? Who chose which songs made the final cut?

No offense to the artists who contributed to the awesome Bonus CD, but ROFLMALOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Next time I do a project I will leave the decision making to superjoe.

EDIT - superjoe30, 30 times less super than superjoe01

Ragnor

04-19-2007, 06:56 PM

Wow. Just wow.

This has to be, without a doubt, the greatest video game compilation ever. The remixes of the Hidden Palace and Sky Sanctuary Zones (The secluded Stronghold and Breathtaking Vision) are my absolute favorites. You guys should do a compilation for the original Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2, as a combined album. (Not as many songs, but worth a shot.)

Thanks again for spending so much time on a kick ass album.

While Sonic 2 has already been done, Sonic 1 + Spinball is viable I guess. Or Sonic 1 Megadrive + Sonic 1 Game Gear/Master System. It would be great to have the whole trilogy done imho.

Ragnor

04-19-2007, 07:22 PM

Even if that were so, it was my first OCRemix experience, so I think its pretty good :p (kay, so it was downloaded from elsewhere, but as an OCR Site project it still counts imho)
But I admit, its nowhere near as good as this one turned out.

SwordBreaker

04-21-2007, 02:06 AM

Love this album. LOVE IT. You guys did a terrific job. The variety is awesome.

My personal highlight was "The Doomsday" collab from Ashane, Snapple, and norg. Man, when that solo starts at around 2:06...you can't help but air-guitar to it!

JTD121

05-05-2007, 12:04 AM

So.....When are the 'unreleased' tracks going to be released? You know, the 'Super Double Bonus' tracks? I know someone said in a couple months, but that was what....a long time ago? ;)

Just wondering on the status of this one is all. Keep up the good work!

-Josh

JCDenton

05-11-2007, 12:12 AM

anyone mind if i use this music for my vid?
it's basically going to be a gameplay video of S3&K set to different music, and this is perfect for the job...

neokairak

05-21-2007, 10:16 PM

cant get fukin tired of it. Each track enyoable.... Some of the tracks wont go out of my playlist for a long time.......................................

GJ all of you who made this possible

Tenucha

05-22-2007, 01:00 AM

Probably my most favourite thing on "LIve At Sandopolis" is, not only how hard it hits but how much it feels like it was inspired from Dream Theater haha

anyone mind if i use this music for my vid?
it's basically going to be a gameplay video of S3&K set to different music, and this is perfect for the job...

Check the 2nd Draft topic.
Just make sure to credit the song, artist and include OCReMix.org in the credits.

Tenucha

05-31-2007, 01:15 AM

I just tried checking out the page again to grab some more songs and they all play as almost test clips... its not playing the full songs on any mirror fo rthe first 2 discs

The Pezman

05-31-2007, 02:33 AM

There was never a lossless release for this, was there?

jmr

05-31-2007, 02:39 AM

There was never a lossless release for this, was there?No, there was no lossless release.

Slimee

06-01-2007, 10:41 PM

I really enjoyed most of the stuff on the first two CDs

I wasn't a fan of the piano stuff, especially the Ice Cap remix, I couldn't even figure out where the ice cap part was because it didn't sound anything like it to me. Hectcenus has talent with playing the piano, but Ice Cap deserved better. Beneath the Ashes has grown on my a bit, but that may because it's much more easier to identify.

I've got a question though, on the Bonus CD when I download 308-314, none of the songs play, it just makes some high pitched noise when I try to play it and that's it. Anyone else have this problem?

jmr

06-01-2007, 11:52 PM

I've got a question though, on the Bonus CD when I download 308-314, none of the songs play, it just makes some high pitched noise when I try to play it and that's it. Anyone else have this problem?
I never had any problems with them, but you're not the only one who did. You could try a different music program (I use Winamp), or you can 'repair' the files. Instructions to fix this problem were posted on the project page:
Hello people! I apologise for the wait on this, but we've had some difficulties trying to get a fixed batch of songs online. Now that the 'bad' batch has circulated so much it's impossible for us to really do anything about it; but we do have a fix that works and is relatively easy for you all:

1) Download GoldWave (http://www.goldwave.com/)
2) Open up said WIP files in program (one at a time).
3) "File, Save As" the same file name
4) Problem solved.

Credits go to Xenon Odyssey for this fix.

Thank you for being patient!

Tenucha

06-02-2007, 06:57 AM

Ya I use Winamp and havnt had any problems.
I still gotta find a website to install whtever plug in or whatever my computer is missing so I can "repair" these MP3s myself *wishes the repaired ones would just get posted*

Fishy

06-04-2007, 03:43 PM

Tenucha

06-05-2007, 02:21 AM

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/380713

This crazy mad flash uses The Doomsday collab in it for the main final fight at the end. It does get credits, but only to Project Chaos in general. It's like the second highest rated flash of all time at the moment, so thats pretty cool. Not sure if they even asked though.

WOW!! That was a quite awesome flash vid!! 0_0
I'm very impressed with it.
How did you come to watch it and realized "The Doomsday" was used?
Damn I wish I could save this vid to the HD however....

Fishy

06-05-2007, 08:40 AM

I just recognised the guitar tone and then checked the credits to make sure.

madpistol

06-22-2007, 04:27 AM

Hey. I just stumbled across this site looking for video game music, and I found your remixes of sonic 3 and knuckles, and I remember stumbling across kong in concert sometime last year, and I downloaded the entire album.

First, before I say anything, I'm currently a music major at a local university, and I've enjoy many forms of music. Also, I love video games with a passion.

With that being said, you guys amaze me. I expected to find something that was semi-good and somewhat subpar compared to the music that I'm used to. Boy was I surprised. All the projects I've listened to so far are the most fantastic remixes of video game music I've ever heard, bar none. I was pretty much able to pick out all the themes in both Kong in Concert and Project Chaos, and some of those songs were pretty "out there" in terms of the way you guys arranged them. I really loved "Walk on Water", but "Breathtaking Vision" and "The Secluded Stronghold" were probably among the most well done in my opinion. All three of those songs brought out the themes to be heard the way they were supposed to be heard (and in full context).

I just wish I knew how ya'll did it. I honestly don't think I have the talent to be able to make this type of music, but I'd love to learn. Anyway, outstanding job. This site has a place on my bookmarks now. I can't wait to hear your future projects. :grin:

Hadyn

06-24-2007, 02:58 AM

I haven't logged into OCR for a few months now, thought I'd just drop in to say thanks to everyone for the great feedback, I'm glad to see you're all still enjoying the project as much as I am! =)

artistnikkij

07-10-2007, 01:03 AM

SnappleMan

07-24-2007, 12:38 AM

Ughh, I've been getting a few requests from YouTube users to "Prove" that my account there is actually me from here. Seems that a lot of people are taking the music I made for this project and making videos out of it, and other people with the screename "SnappleMan" might be taking credit. So yeah, my YouTube username is my name "AndreasKotsamanidis". Anyone else on YouTube claiming to have created the music is lying.

Tenucha

07-24-2007, 07:59 AM

What is the origin of your name?

At any rate... people suck like that.
I can't imagine how someone will log online and comment back and take credit for, pretending to be the actual artist.
Myself being an artist... I have seen this happen and it's just amazing what people will do.

Ya I used some songs from OCR for a couple videos I made for class... but I gave credit at the end to both the original artist and OCR so...

SnappleMan

07-24-2007, 08:03 AM

Origin of my name is Greek. I'm half Greek and half Yugoslavian.

But yeah, it's not the people who make the videos, they credit me most of the time. It's people on YouTube and other sites claiming to be me and taking credit for my work.

Andeed

08-05-2007, 03:13 PM

SnappleMan

08-06-2007, 12:16 AM

Hi :grin:

First, I would like to say that I absolutely love the album! It couldn't have been done better if you tried. It really made me realise how awesome the music (and the game) actually were...

Second, I am planning to make a 'tribute' version of the game, programed in flash. It is going to be my first major project and I'm still not sure whether I am going to go through with it or not yet. I was wondering if I could use the project chaos remixes for the background music for the game because project chaos is also a tribute to s3&k. The game would also be a good way to promote Project Chaos.

Andy Davies ;-)

You're the 500th person to claim they're making a remake of the game and asking to use the music... :)

And yes, you can use it, just please be sure to credit us properly. Other than that, I hope you have good luck working on your game and please post it here when you're done! I'd love to play it :D!

Fishy

08-06-2007, 11:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg1UuqYdR9g

Snappul! Have you seen this yet?

Andeed

08-06-2007, 06:20 PM

Oh crap, I really should have read more of the forum - now I look like a complete noob:oops:! Anyway thanks for that and I will make sure I give credit. One more time, PROJECT CHAOS RULES!!

DeepChild

08-31-2007, 06:15 PM

Just wanted to pop in and say that over the past couple of months I've really enjoyed having this project in my playlist. On my initial scan of the tracks I pretty much dismissed the whole thing and went on to listen to other stuff that more suited my mood at the time. However, after loading it up for another go at it I got lost in my work and, hours later, found myself thinking "Oh sweet, I love this part coming up!". Once I got the sound in my head it was all good from there. This whole project is pure quality. Thanks for putting in the effort!

HelderP

09-01-2007, 01:44 AM

hey there...
Registed in this forums just to post my 50cent here!

I want to thank the composers that made Project Chaos, is such a beautiful sound track, oh the dejavu! :D

I recorded it to my MP3, and it will never leave there...

Congratulations guys!

Long live Sonic&Knuckles

Dark Vincent

10-13-2007, 03:09 PM

I have been lurking around OC Remix since 2002, but after listening to this album I felt it was time to register myself on the forums and personally congratulate you guys for one of the best tributes to VGMusic ever done.
Seriously, nostalgic yet modern, I just can't stop listening!

Thanks for providing us such sublime masterpiece. =)

the_muteKi

11-26-2007, 09:20 PM

Reutan

12-03-2007, 08:12 PM

This is wonderful.

I'll be honest, it's not perfect, but I love it.
Like some have said, I prefer the songs that are more tightly connected to the original pieces (which I guess just goes to show how much I like the originals), but it's all good.

I certainly didn't expect the piano remix of ICZ, but then after 1001 Ice Cap dance remixes, something new is definitely a good thing.

My biggest complaint? Where the hell is the music from the PC rerelease (Sonic and Knuckles Collection)? :razz:
Wow, I'm basically an echo of muteKi here...I'm amazed that other people know about S&K Collection! I got it...whew, I don't know where, and a long while now.
I had some problems with some of the files, but I think I've figured it out now...gonna try the goldwave suggestions.

Walk on Water? Wow...just amazing...I hadn't played S3K in years...yet I was singin (or something) along with the hydrocity remix. Close enough to the original to retain the melody and keep it recognizable, with it's own wonderful additions.

TommyKing

12-09-2007, 06:50 PM

Hey, I'm having trouble playing all the WIPs. This is an excellent album (as already posted countless times), and I've downloaded the first two discs and half the third one, but every time I try to open the WIPs in iTunes they stop working. I can play them fine in IE/Firefox and haven't really tried any other programs (I really want them on my iPod). Am I doing something wrong here, or are there amended versions out there somewhere?

Thanks for your help.

jmr

12-10-2007, 12:07 AM

Hey, I'm having trouble playing all the WIPs.
The instructions for fixing this problem were posted on the project website.
Hello people! I apologise for the wait on this, but we've had some difficulties trying to get a fixed batch of songs online. Now that the 'bad' batch has circulated so much it's impossible for us to really do anything about it; but we do have a fix that works and is relatively easy for you all:

1) Download GoldWave (http://www.goldwave.com/)
2) Open up said WIP files in program (one at a time).
3) "File, Save As" the same file name
4) Problem solved.

Credits go to Xenon Odyssey for this fix.

Thank you for being patient!

TommyKing

12-10-2007, 04:22 AM

Thanks a lot, jmr! Missed that the first time around.

Stefodude

01-31-2008, 03:56 PM

The project is really awesome, but there is a problem with the Flash Site, the bonus tracks that are played can't be find anywhere! There are 16 remixed songs in the flash site that are automactly played, but can't be found anywhere for downloads =[

They're not in the CD 1, CD 2 or either Special Disc =P Please, send the link to my e-mail or post a reply with the files!

stef.dazzi@hotmail.com please :D

Great Remixes! Bye!

Here's a Image of the soundtrack being played (song "Run for your life, Knuckles (Demo)":

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5064/projectchaosbonustracksdf3.jpg

There are really good songs in the flash player, some are just too short, but most of is worth it!

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/%5BURL=http://imageshack.us%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5064/projectchaosbonustracksdf3.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D

Dudemango

02-01-2008, 02:58 PM

What can I say guys, I am very impressed at how professional and well produced this album is. Honestly, everything, from the tracks to the album art is of great quality and I love it.
Kudos guys, seriously. Well done.

Heres to many more releases in the future, I look forward to it.
Ryan

Huntaren

02-23-2008, 12:35 PM

I wonder if you have any Real NOtes or guitar pro tabs on your song?

SnappleMan

02-23-2008, 08:10 PM

I wonder if you have any Real NOtes or guitar pro tabs on your song?

Who exactly are you talking to in your post?

If you're asking me, I don't have anything tabbed or written out. Everything was improvised.

Huntaren

02-24-2008, 04:56 PM

does people who did these covers must ha writen it down on some way.

MasterE

02-25-2008, 11:34 PM

I got the album a while back but I was never able to get the last half of the special disk. I saw the solution for fixing the songs but I still have one problem with groove basin. Whenever I try to re encode it the last 30 or 40 seconds are just a strait line. I can hear the song perfectly fine in multiquence but when I save it as audio and playit on anything the section thast is a line does not come out the same as when it is played in multiquence. any suggestions. (It is my favorite part of the song by the way:D ):puppyeyes:

Sengin

02-26-2008, 03:56 PM

Now, I'm not one for orchestrated music, but after listening to Kanjika's "The Secluded Stronghold," I think I may have to change my mind. That was such a wonderful piece of music. A first listen through the whole project left me kinda "Uh...this is good, but most of the musical styles I don't like." However, now it's more of "Well damn. I don't know which I want to hear next because they're all great."

I especially love Xenon Odyssey's Lava Passion WIP. Are there any plans to finish it? Love the sax in there so much. I take it the version on your website is the version after the one included in the project?

Xenon Odyssey

02-26-2008, 05:52 PM

I especially love Xenon Odyssey's Lava Passion WIP. Are there any plans to finish it? Love the sax in there so much. I take it the version on your website is the version after the one included in the project?

Yes, the version on my website is the final version. Glad you like it ;)

Sengin

02-27-2008, 02:43 AM

Yes, the version on my website is the final version. Glad you like it ;)

I certainly do indeed :-P. Aww, the final? I was hoping it would be longer :P (it still says WIPv2 in the description of the ID3 tags). Is the saxophone recorded by you or did you find samples? If you recorded it, what make/key/etc..? It's a wonderful sax.

Xenon Odyssey

02-27-2008, 01:36 PM

I certainly do indeed :-P. Aww, the final? I was hoping it would be longer :P (it still says WIPv2 in the description of the ID3 tags). Is the saxophone recorded by you or did you find samples? If you recorded it, what make/key/etc..? It's a wonderful sax.

This is probably why I still have it labeled WiP v2 (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-5043.html)...I should probably fix that.

I recorded it, the saxophone itself is a Yamaha (I believe a student model because I'm poor), and the song is in A minor, meaning I played in B minor on the sax.

RoninPedroshin

03-30-2008, 09:45 PM

My favourites in their order would be:

1.Groove Basin
2.Breathtaking Vision
3.Heads Up for Tails
4.Dead Batteries

Regarding my top favourite, Groove Basin... I love the intro, makes me think of a peaceful river or waterfall in the middle of a forest. I just wish it would last longer or at least have a proper ending. It ends too abruptly. :?

I know it's because it's WIP and that Rayza lost his project because of hard-drive problems, but Rayza, couldn't you somehow add 30 extra seconds for proper ending by just starting a 30-second project just using the necessary minimum instruments for it and then joining both 00:00:30 and 00:03:29 mp3s? I did that a lot with songs just to make them longer (of course I only did the split and join parts, since I'm no remixer).

Takes some time to get the perfect transition between the cut, but it's possible. I really think it is a remix that deserves a 100% completion!

viper-1-9-89

04-12-2008, 04:14 PM

I love this album, I've heard a few VG Music remixes [mainly Metal Gear Solid] but this one tops the lot. My favourite tracks have got to be The Doomsday and Dead Batteries! Now if only I could get hold of the actual game again!

The only other thing I would say to this project, as mentioned in the title of my post, is Guitar Hero. Have you ever considered taking this project to Activision for a track pack or game or anything! The amount of times I listen to a track and start pretending to play it on my guitar hero controller, I think it would be awesome! The Doomsday, Live At The Sandopolis and Malicious Fingers would be some great tracks to include.

Thanks again for livening up my Media Player with this fantastic album!

superjoe30

04-28-2008, 06:06 AM

rrwoods

05-02-2008, 12:52 AM

Love the Judas Priest tribute at the end of The Doomsday. ;-)

SnappleMan

05-05-2008, 08:16 AM

............\m/

ApplePiePod

05-19-2008, 04:17 PM

snappleman, i am a game developer from the GMC (http://gmc.yoyogames.com/). I would like to use your "Dead Batteries" track for my next game, WayBy please.
Gecko Yamori - I would like to use your "Elevator Music" track please.
KungFuChicken - I would like to use your "The wait is over!" track please.

If you say yes, you will frequently get demos from me featuring your music. I am a big fan of Project Chaos, and i hope to see even more developments from you.

SnappleMan

05-24-2008, 06:38 PM

Zantet

05-26-2008, 01:29 AM

This has probably been said a million times already, but I'm too lazy to look around for the answers. Anyways...

Snappleman and BrainCells, you two are absolutely amzing. You're my favorite game remixers. But, I need tabs! I'm too crappy with my ears to figure things out myself, although I've figured out some stuff from tabs of the original themes.

SnappleMan

05-29-2008, 11:18 AM

Oni-91

05-29-2008, 01:26 PM

Hey, SnappleMan, remember me? (http://www.stepmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9707)

The StepMix entry was well liked (it had a score of 4/5 for a while until some people ruined the party) and finished with a rating of 3.1/5. Sadly, it didn't get through to the final, but that was down to a few minor niggles in the steps.

Zantet

05-30-2008, 04:25 AM

And now to give you the same answer as I give to everyone else... I don't have tabs :(!

I don't tab anything out, I just play it. All my leads and solos were on the spot. Sorry man :( But take comfort in that if I ever have to play this song again, I have to learn it just like you!

(And train your ears, it's the best thing you can do for your music.)

Well, that stinks for me. But you are right, I do need to train my ears. But I have a request... if I make tabs of your stuff, can you look them over and tell me if they seem good?

SnappleMan

05-30-2008, 04:27 AM

Well, that stinks for me. But you are right, I do need to train my ears. But I have a request... if I make tabs of your stuff, can you look them over and tell me if they seem good?

Maaan, gonna make me read? :(

jebushatesu

05-30-2008, 11:27 PM

this album is goddamned fantastic. I remember sandopolis being a dreadful zone, but the concert-metal spin on it was ear-gasmic.

The compilation as a whole is much more than I could ever ask for, and Spire's work on the album art is icing on a musicalicious cake.

Moar pleze.

FireSlash

07-04-2008, 09:53 PM

Why hasn't anyone uploaded a working copy of this album? Goldwave doesn't work on macs, so I'm pretty much SOL until someone fixes the copies on the website and/or torrent.:puppyeyes:

Xenon Odyssey

07-04-2008, 10:05 PM

Why hasn't anyone uploaded a working copy of this album? Goldwave doesn't work on macs, so I'm pretty much SOL until someone fixes the copies on the website and/or torrent.:puppyeyes:

You can always do it with Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/)...I just tested it with my MacBook Pro and it worked.

DramaNoMore

07-05-2008, 03:47 PM

Hi, guys, just to say that this is the best project I've ever listened, all tracks have a very professional sound, and a lot of love and passion too. Thanks to all involved.

SnappleMan

07-08-2008, 11:43 AM

Thank you for listening, friend! :)

Ashram

09-05-2008, 04:25 AM

Just wanted to let everyone know, the Project Chaos site is down, for whatever reason. Maybe someone forgot to pay the bill. >.>

POCKETMAN

09-11-2008, 09:21 PM

Just wanted to let everyone know, the Project Chaos site is down, for whatever reason. Maybe someone forgot to pay the bill. >.>

ya, boooo. jk.

jmr

09-12-2008, 12:36 AM

Just wanted to let everyone know, the Project Chaos site is down, for whatever reason. Maybe someone forgot to pay the bill. >.>
I just send an email off to BLueBeRRyKiWi, the guy who took care of hosting the site. Hopefully this gets resolved quickly.

BLueBeRRyKiWi

09-12-2008, 11:19 AM

I've been aware of the downtime since monday or tuesday, but I've been quite busy with school this week. I'm currently checking that with my hosting provider, looks like an account migration went wrong (and all of my websites are down). The site should me back online soon. If access cannot be restored by monday, I'll set it up on another server of my own.

Edit:
In the mean time, the album is still available here :
http://dagda.ouam.fr/~blue/s3k/album/
http://bohort.ouam.fr/~blue/s3k/album/
http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/

BLueBeRRyKiWi

09-16-2008, 10:51 AM

Everything should be back online.
I will change the mirrors for the files sometime nextweek, in order to remove dead links (at least 2 of the listed mirrors are working).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

SnappleMan

09-16-2008, 10:14 PM

Thanks for keeping things running, Blue!

Zantet

09-17-2008, 01:48 AM

The Joker

09-17-2008, 04:57 AM

Hoorah! Though, I wish more people would be able to hear the Death Egg in Before the storm.

GasparXR

09-19-2008, 01:31 AM

Hoorah! Though, I wish more people would be able to hear the Death Egg in Before the storm.

I really can't hear it. Are you sure you were remixing the right song? =P I'm kidding. Best remix soundtrack ever, now we need S3D(Genesis) remix album. D=

Lunarfall

09-19-2008, 04:39 AM

Hey guys.

Back in August or so, before I joined the forum, I did a full album review of this, which can be viewed here:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=29476

Gave it a 4.5/5

Rexy

09-20-2008, 10:04 AM

No feelings on iMushroom / Echidnas May Eat Your Brain?

It's still a very comprehensive review, mind you. The Project Chaos team welcomes your feedback :)

Lunarfall

09-23-2008, 04:53 AM

No feelings on iMushroom / Echidnas May Eat Your Brain?

It's still a very comprehensive review, mind you. The Project Chaos team welcomes your feedback :)When reviewing a big album, you tend to accidentally leave things out. :oops:

Just note that it's just my own personal opinion on the album and songs. :grin:

Zantet

10-28-2008, 03:06 PM

BrainCells

11-16-2008, 12:06 PM

Does anyone know if BrainCells plays on a seven string guitar? Everything I play of the rhythm line to Live at Sandopolis sounds like it isn't going low enough. Any help is appreciated. I'm working on tabs for anyone who cares.

Hi, for "Sandopolis" I do play with a 7 string guitar, I think the tune was B.

For "Eggman" it was a 6 string guitar and i don't remember for sure if the tune was D or D#.

Zantet

11-17-2008, 07:08 PM

Cool, thanks man. I'm pretty sure Eggman is in D, and I think it sounds like Sandopolis is A. My tabbing has slowed down cause I need to burn a new CD...

BTW where should I put the tabs?

Xenon Odyssey

11-17-2008, 10:25 PM

BTW where should I put the tabs?

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3480

Externalist

11-30-2008, 01:25 AM

Hi !
I just wanted to say thanks a bunch for completing this project! Some tracks are just so beautiful I listen to them on a daily basis. :razz:
Thanks again! And hope to see some more stuff in the future! :-P

quxlspn

12-13-2008, 09:48 AM

Wow. Just wow.

You guys, I've only just now stumbled upon this project years after its completion, but you dont understand how much this project reaches out to me.
I'm about five tracks into it as I type this and already I am significantly moved. I spent alot of my childhood playing this game, adoring its music. I have grown to become a composer myself, and hearing these songs performed like this touches me in a way I cannot explain. The work you've put into this is worth every ounce to me and hundreds of others whom I'm sure feel the same. I look forward to hearing the rest of it and spending many many hours enjoying it over and over.
Once again I cannot express my gratitude and respect completely, what you have done here is extremely precious to me.

-Blaine O'Brien

test

12-13-2008, 05:53 PM

Because Windows Media Player sucks.
It plays just fine on my Winamp.

Windows Media Player plays every other song, there's no reason it shouldn't play KnuckleDuster.

There has to be another way to play it other then get WinAmp. It doesn't work on mine either.

Dunther

12-15-2008, 11:05 PM

Windows Media Player plays every other song, there's no reason it shouldn't play KnuckleDuster.

There has to be another way to play it other then get WinAmp. It doesn't work on mine either.

It's a tag problem, don't remember how I fixed it, but I think that I used winamp to change the ID3 something...

Smashchu

12-19-2008, 08:01 AM

Hope I put this in the right spot.
Yeah, I downloaded the album, but some of the songs are WIP (all the later ones) and can't be played via iTunes or WMP. Does anyone know if there is someway to change it into an MP3 or a place to get an MP3 version. I was hoping to listen to it on my new iPod.

Which mean I love the album, but thing that, in the future, the file formats need to be considered.

Xenon Odyssey

12-19-2008, 06:40 PM

Hello people! I apologise for the wait on this, but we've had some difficulties trying to get a fixed batch of songs online. Now that the 'bad' batch has circulated so much it's impossible for us to really do anything about it; but we do have a fix that works and is relatively easy for you all:

1) Download GoldWave (http://www.goldwave.com)
2) Open up said WIP files in program (one at a time).
3) "File, Save As" the same file name
4) Problem solved.

10 CHARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-MANDER

Koike

01-06-2009, 01:54 AM

Funny, the WIPs play fine for me on Windows Media Player. Anyway great album, I'd love to have it on CD, it is on CD right? or at least coming out on CD soon?

KyleJCrb

01-06-2009, 02:28 AM

Funny, the WIPs play fine for me on Windows Media Player. Anyway great album, I'd love to have it on CD, it is on CD right? or at least coming out on CD soon?

Nope. Gotta burn your own, as with all OCR projects.

Koike

01-06-2009, 05:39 PM

Nope. Gotta burn your own, as with all OCR projects.
crap. In that case I gotta find out how to convert mp3's to CD format, (duh WMP) then I gotta get a CD case, or two, and then print the pix. Time to put my awesome computer skillz to work! Well I already got the album and the cover art, so I'm sure I can do this easily. Maybe I'll take a picture of it. As a commemoration of my first actual CD (I don't bother with CD's much I just go straight for the mp3).

Oblivion92

02-23-2009, 10:26 PM

Zantet

02-24-2009, 04:07 PM

I really enjoyed listening to Project Chaos, perticularly the song "That Freezing Feeling". I was wondering if there was any way to get piano sheet music for it? If so, that would be amazing!

Thanks,
-Oblivion

I actually worked on that for a little bit. I only finished the first page, but I don't have th right program anymore so I can't view the file.

I've got a MIDI file from hetcenus if you want me to email you that.

Oblivion92

02-24-2009, 04:55 PM

That would be awesome! Thanks Josh.

If you could email it to mtbmarker@gmail.com that would be great.

-Oblivion

shox3

03-19-2009, 01:40 AM

Would there be any sheet music for any of the tracks floating around the internet? I'm interested in playing walk on water with my band. Otherwise I'll just arrange it myself

Chaos Guardian

06-06-2009, 12:07 AM

This album is amazing, and "Beneath the Ashes" is gold. Would it be possible for me to the sheet music for "Beneath the Ashes" anywhere?

A MIDI would also work.

Tmansdc

07-14-2009, 08:25 PM

Second OCremix album I downloaded which was like a month ago! Great job guys! Well done!

Emunator

09-25-2009, 01:54 AM

I finally got around to listening to this one all the way through today :-) It's one of the only album projects I have not checked out in full yet. I enjoy a huge number of singles off this album; chthonic, Hetcenus, Danny B, house, and of course Snappleman all contributed some very memorable tracks :-)

Sadrick69

09-26-2009, 06:37 AM

Hey that was amazing! My personal faves were Kajika's work. It was abaolutely superb! And did anyone notice but I swear that they played a bit of Electric Eye from Screming for Vengeance made by Judas Priest at the end of The Doomsday track.
Am I right? Also has anyone finished sheet music for That Freezing Feeling and Beneath the Ashes? I would really like them.

KyleJCrb

09-26-2009, 07:06 AM

Hey that was amazing! My personal faves were Kajika's work. It was abaolutely superb! And did anyone notice but I swear that they played a bit of Electric Eye from Screming for Vengeance made by Judas Priest at the end of The Doomsday track. Am I right?

Yep, SnappleMan says it was intentional.

Rexy

09-26-2009, 01:24 PM

Also has anyone finished sheet music for That Freezing Feeling and Beneath the Ashes? I would really like them.

Well, if you were hoping to ask for sheet music, then asking Hetcenus himself would be an option; however, he's been missing from here for quite some time. I don't know if I still have the project file for "Beneath the Ashes" though, but if I do, I could have a go on that in his place.

Sadrick69

10-02-2009, 02:12 AM

RexyWell, if you were hoping to ask for sheet music, then asking Hetcenus himself would be an option; however, he's been missing from here for quite some time. I don't know if I still have the project file for "Beneath the Ashes" though, but if I do, I could have a go on that in his place. Hey if you got it then I'll gladly take it!! WOAH!! I just realized that you worked on the project!! That's so cool!! LOL! Thanks for personally answering my request! Finally I don't mean to oppose anyone but...as a concerned aspiring musician...is Kanjika's work on The Secluded Stronghold original? PLEASE don't punish me!! It just like that at the last second there seems to be the start of clapping and I know that there is a video game symphony called Play! and that Sonic songs are part of their repitoir. And if not what program is he using!? I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to have the program he has and make my own work! lol Thank you.

mwrspeedy25

10-08-2009, 06:57 PM

Yes, I am wondering, how come the songs don't have the album artwork attached to them??

Chaos Guardian

10-09-2009, 04:46 AM

Well, if you were hoping to ask for sheet music, then asking Hetcenus himself would be an option; however, he's been missing from here for quite some time. I don't know if I still have the project file for "Beneath the Ashes" though, but if I do, I could have a go on that in his place.
If it's a MIDI file, and you're willing to send it to me, I'd be happy to create sheet music off of it for everyone. =)

Dunther

10-11-2009, 01:51 PM

Yes, I am wondering, how come the songs don't have the album artwork attached to them??

Uhm maybe they think it's better to leave the listeners free to add if they want it like I do (in the Doom album there were alternate covers too i.e.)...

KyleJCrb

10-11-2009, 02:24 PM

Yes, I am wondering, how come the songs don't have the album artwork attached to them??

Many of the older albums don't have embedded album artwork.

mwrspeedy25

10-12-2009, 04:06 PM

well, what if you wanted to add the album artwork to the song, is there a program that does that??

Dunther

10-12-2009, 04:11 PM

Sure.
I use Windows Media Player to add the front cover in the folder of that album, while iTunes is better to add the artwork in single mp3s.
If you use something else to listen music, check if there is an option to do it; if not, you can simply download like dBpoweramp that has a tag editor in it. I'm sure that are plenty of programs that can allow you to do that :) .

KyleJCrb

10-12-2009, 05:18 PM

well, what if you wanted to add the album artwork to the song, is there a program that does that??

Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/).

GTAHater836

10-17-2009, 01:08 AM

Greeeat album! My three favorite tracks are:

I. Dead Batteries (Flying Battery Zone)
II. iMushroom (Mushroom Hills Zone)
III. Breathtaking Vision (Sky Sanctuary Zone)

Sega needs to make another 2D Sonic game much like Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD, and/or Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Those 5 were by far the best in the series, and it's a shame the franchise couldn't have better fortune after the two Sonic Adventure games.

P. S. Was it mere chance that this was released on the day the Wii launched?

Sadrick69

10-17-2009, 07:12 AM

Chaos GuardianIf it's a MIDI file, and you're willing to send it to me, I'd be happy to create sheet music off of it for everyone. =) Sure I am up for that but I am pretty sure it's a recording of a real piano but if not then how can I tell? And no one has told me what Kanjika used for his pieces! I would really like the program!

likalaruku

12-13-2009, 02:03 AM

I've tried downloading them from here, a different website, & a torrent. They will not play. All of the other mp3s except these 7 work fine.

308 - Rayza - Groove..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/308%20-%20Rayza%20-%20Groove%20Basin%20%28Azure%20Lake%20WIP%29.mp3) 16-Nov-2006 14:34 4.1M
309 - AkumajoBelmont..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/309%20-%20AkumajoBelmont%20-%20Water%20on%20the%20Dancefloor%20%28Hydrocity%20 WIP%29.mp3) 16-Nov-2006 14:34 3.0M
310 - Hadyn - Heads ..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/310%20-%20Hadyn%20-%20Heads%20Up%20for%20Tails%20%28Final%20Boss%29.m p3) 16-Nov-2006 14:34 4.8M
311 - Kanjika - Stra..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/311%20-%20Kanjika%20-%20Stranger%20to%20Closure%20%28S3%20Credits%20WIP %29.mp3) 16-Nov-2006 14:34 3.2M
312 - GaMeBoX - Ice ..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/312%20-%20GaMeBoX%20-%20Ice%20Cap%204%20Life%20%28IceCap%20WIP%29.mp3) 16-Nov-2006 14:35 2.4M
313 - Kanjika - Hydr..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/313%20-%20Kanjika%20-%20Hydrochill%20%28Hydrocity%20WIP%29.mp3) 16-Nov-2006 14:35 2.2M
314 - Xenon Odyssey ..> (http://blueberry437.free.fr/s3k/album/314%20-%20Xenon%20Odyssey%20-%20Lava%20Passion%20%28Lava%20Reef%20WIP%29.mp3) 16-Nov-2006 14:35 3.3M

SonicSynthesis

12-13-2009, 03:36 PM

This is such a great album. I listen to it all the time. Malicious Fingers is my favourite OC remix. Also Walk on Water is amazing!

thekryz

01-06-2010, 09:54 AM

KyleJCrb

01-06-2010, 10:13 AM

From the main page of the project site:

Hello people! I apologise for the wait on this, but we've had some difficulties trying to get a fixed batch of songs online. Now that the 'bad' batch has circulated so much it's impossible for us to really do anything about it; but we do have a fix that works and is relatively easy for you all:

1) Download Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com) or Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/)
2) Open up said WIP files in program (one at a time).
3) "File, Save As" the same file name
4) Problem solved.

Credits go to Xenon Odyssey for this fix.

Thank you for being patient!

McKnackusThe1st

01-18-2010, 03:02 PM

I have no clue if this will even get replied to, but I've noticed something pretty odd about the albums.

Aside from the bad batch of songs, there are also other songs that are on the teaser site that aren't on album. Very nice songs. Song's I want, but can't download.

So I'm curious as to why they got axed out of the final product, and if there is any way I can download them.

The songs are:

Nautic Lava 2
S3K Sessions
Doomsday
Frozen Lavareef
Unseen Beta
The Unseen Wonders
Sand Caf
Credits
Run For Your Life Knuckles
New Blessings

Heck, why not make a new S&K album and call it "Project Chaos - The Lost Tracks"?

Hobson

02-22-2010, 04:49 PM

They are, it's called Sonic 4 and it's coming out this summer.

http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/

Greeeat album! My three favorite tracks are:

I. Dead Batteries (Flying Battery Zone)
II. iMushroom (Mushroom Hills Zone)
III. Breathtaking Vision (Sky Sanctuary Zone)

Sega needs to make another 2D Sonic game much like Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD, and/or Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Those 5 were by far the best in the series, and it's a shame the franchise couldn't have better fortune after the two Sonic Adventure games.

P. S. Was it mere chance that this was released on the day the Wii launched?

Hadyn

08-23-2010, 04:16 AM

why not make a new S&K album and call it "Project Chaos - The Lost Tracks"?

Because that title is too apt; the tracks are lost.

I'm the one that originally put them up (I built the teaser site back in '05), but I no longer have access to the server - I haven't since I put the site up. Even if the tracks were accessible, the quality would be no better than what you hear on the site. I doubt any of the remixers still have their original project files from '05, so getting higher quality versions probably isn't possible.

With that being the case, if you really want a copy of the tracks you might as well get a recording application, record all the tracks as they play on the site (via "line out"), and get a copy of them that way. If you need more info on how to do this, search "how to record line out" on google. Should work.

Hope this helps!

jmr

08-24-2010, 07:13 PM

Because that title is too apt; the tracks are lost.

I'm the one that originally put them up (I built the teaser site back in '05), but I no longer have access to the server - I haven't since I put the site up. Even if the tracks were accessible, the quality would be no better than what you hear on the site. I doubt any of the remixers still have their original project files from '05, so getting higher quality versions probably isn't possible.
I've still got all the teaser site MP3s (albeit, the 96kbps / 112kbps streaming versions) along with some earlier / alternate versions of other album tracks. Normally I'd be happy to upload these, but I recall some of the artists not wanting their WIPs to be available for public download (notably, DarkeSword and his Sand Café WIP (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?p=170179&highlight=sand+cafe#post170179)).
If anyone REALLY wants the files, shoot me a PM.

ShadowZ.

08-27-2010, 03:13 PM

It is possible to download every song directly from the teaser site, though.

JTD121

08-28-2010, 03:42 AM

Is that via going through about:cache in Firefox? I assume there is a similar way in other browsers, too.

ShadowZ.

09-02-2010, 12:08 PM

Nope, external software that fetches the links when the mp3s are being streamed. Works for quite a lot of websites too.

Trimaj

10-31-2010, 04:26 AM

just wanted to say that i've really enjoyed this album a lot, got it a couple years ago and i've been lurking for a while, but finally decided to actually join mainly to tell you all thanks for the great work you did on this. gonna be looking for more of your stuff as it comes out.

i was also wondering if anyone could tell me where to find more of hetcenus work? that freezing feeling was probably my favorite song on the album, and i'd love to be able to find more stuff by that particular remixer.

FantasticFinale

12-20-2010, 07:47 PM

From the main page of the project site:

So... well, I have a Mac, so my only option of those 2 is Audacity, but, your instructions aren't working for me, and, I really really love this album so, it kinda makes me mad i'm missing out, is here any other way I could fix these tracks, or if you could reupload them ? please...

Liontamer

12-20-2010, 07:56 PM

So... well, I have a Mac, so my only option of those 2 is Audacity, but, your instructions aren't working for me, and, I really really love this album so, it kinda makes me mad i'm missing out, is here any other way I could fix these tracks, or if you could reupload them ? please...

I've fixed the files for my personal collection, and at some point within the next year, the hopeful plan is to re-release every past album with updated tags, embedded album art, and all the other bells & whistles.

I wish I could say stuff coming's out tomorrow, but it'll be a while. That said, maybe before the end of the year, I'll host a ZIP of just the tracks known for having screwed up encodings so you and others can grab 'em.

FantasticFinale

12-21-2010, 02:34 AM

I've fixed the files for my personal collection, and at some point within the next year, the hopeful plan is to re-release every past album with updated tags, embedded album art, and all the other bells & whistles.

I wish I could say stuff coming's out tomorrow, but it'll be a while. That said, maybe before the end of the year, I'll host a ZIP of just the tracks known for having screwed up encodings so you and others can grab 'em.

Well, thank you, a lot !!!

I really like all the albums I've listened to as far but, the main disc of this one must be one of my favorites !!!!
:-D

sg1maniac

03-24-2011, 05:54 AM

I was wondering if there was a way that I could get the sheet music of "That Freezing Feeling?"

Zantet

03-27-2011, 07:19 AM

I was wondering if there was a way that I could get the sheet music of "That Freezing Feeling?"

I've got some and can upload them, but I'm out of town right now. I'll try to get them up and going tomorrow after I get home to my comp where the sheets are saved.

SwordBreaker

06-26-2011, 05:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slZ5gaQBwDs&feature=feedu

Just happened to stumble upon this video of Sonic Generations' booth at E3 2011. Is it me or am I hearing Snappleman's Flying Batteries remix in the background? If so, then cool stuff! Is it just background music for the booth itself or is there some sort of OC ReMix collaboration with Sega that we should know about? :P

Rexy

06-26-2011, 10:41 AM

Watched the video. Yes, that definitely IS "Flying Batteries", though given the way it was presented I have no idea if it was spliced in by IrateGamer themselves or actually played at the E3 booth.
I'm sure there were some attendees from OCRemix at the event, so if anyone can provide some confirmation from there, that'll be great. :)

Chaos Guardian

07-28-2011, 08:21 PM

I've got some and can upload them, but I'm out of town right now. I'll try to get them up and going tomorrow after I get home to my comp where the sheets are saved.

I would also be interested if you would be willing to upload them. . . =)

ZArsenalZ

08-30-2011, 02:25 PM

Beneath the Ashes is the most wonderful thing I've ever heard

k u n g f u c h i c k e n

11-01-2011, 11:23 AM

wooo.... this takes me back.

Hadyn

11-07-2011, 10:46 AM

Good times :)

TonitoX2

04-19-2012, 06:43 PM

A re-release of this in lossless would be nice :).

KyleJCrb

04-19-2012, 06:45 PM

Probably pretty unlikely, given the age of the album. I'd be surprised if even half of the remixers still have wavs of their tracks, much less any project files.

TonitoX2

04-19-2012, 07:15 PM

Probably pretty unlikely, given the age of the album. I'd be surprised if even half of the remixers still have wavs of their tracks, much less any project files.

Super sad panda :puppyeyes:

Rexy

04-19-2012, 07:30 PM

I actually still have the project file for "Divided From Grace", believe it or not. :razz: However, most of the soundfonts (mostly the more organic ones) that I used for it were completely lost, so if it ever gets used for something, it may more likely be a remaster rather than a lossless re-release.

But who knows, some of the other remixers might still have WAV files for their tracks yet, for whatever purpose or other. :wink:

TonitoX2

04-20-2012, 03:22 PM