OCRA-0008 - Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos

[SnappleMan]

Hello, and welcome to the Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Project Chaos feedback and opinions thread!

Here is the link to the project:

www.s3k.ocremix.org

So download it, spread the word, listen to it, love it, hate it, make sweet love to it, and most importantly TELL US WHAT YOU THINK OF IT! :)

Thanks to everyone for their patience and support, I hope all of your waiting has been rewarded, do enjoy this wonderful project, everyone!

[suzumebachi]

MUTHAFUCKAAAAAAA. I'll be grabbing this at school tomorrow for sure. Anyways hurray for release!

[Vilecat]

Only tomorrow? Shame on you, man, shame on you!
I'm currently getting it via torrent, and i'll leave it on to help seeding for sure. I remember hearing WIPs for a few of the songs that are on that project, and i doubt people will be decieved by it. Congrats to anyone who worked on this! :D

[SonicTweaker]

Feedback: Sex.

Opinion: Sex.

Final grade: I came.

Fucking awesome job, you guys! It took ages, but you really pulled through! =)

[Sindra]

It's well-aged.


You already know my opinion Andy. :D

[Nineko]

I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!! ^______________^

I'm going to post more costructive feedback later, for now take my happyness :)

[Sixto]

This will rock. I'll just leave it uploading overnight.

[Dunther]

I'm downloading it right now!

[Protocol]

Awesome! I've been waiting sooo long! I'll seed this... forever O_O

[Dunther]

106 - Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster (Marble Garden).mp3 don't run on windows media player...why?o.O

[Nineko]

106 - Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster (Marble Garden).mp3 don't run on windows media player...why?o.OBecause Windows Media Player sucks.
It plays just fine on my Winamp.

[SnappleMan]

106 - Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster (Marble Garden).mp3 don't run on windows media player...why?o.O

Dan is too fat for WMP, sorry :(

[ipoopupoop]

What happened to Sirnuts the Unseen Wonders track?

:(

[watkinzez]

106 - Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster (Marble Garden).mp3 don't run on windows media player...why?o.O

It runs on WMP. All I did was change the tags so they'd show up in the folder it was stored in.
But regardless.. use something else.

Anyways- unsurprisingly, house and Snapp's songs are the best ones yet.

[Dahlia]

I'm downloading it right now!

Ditto! Looking forward to it.

[DarkPoinko]

I'm downloading it right now, too. I'm so excited, I haven't been looking forward to getting a soundtrack like this in a long, long time :D

[MaxFrost]

:P already downloaded, and currently being listened to...Divided from Grace is where I'm currently in the playlist

[your the man now dog]

Wow, what a diverse project. Good work to everyone involved. It turned out very good.

[Kaiger]

Been waiting forever for this...

And it was totally worth it! The styles were all over, but each one was well done. I don't think there was a track I didn't like!

P.S. Dead Batteries is like a dream come true.

[OverCoat]

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[MaxFrost]

I agree with Overcoat...a couple songs didn't sit well with me, but overall, I'm impressed...Every single track holds a unique arrangement, only beef was with some production flubs, and a few poor sample choices.

[OverCoat]

I agree with Overcoat...a couple songs didn't sit well with me, but overall, I'm impressed...

I never said that!

Though yeah I am pretty much favoring all the guitar wank over everything else so far :]

[MaxFrost]

yeah, guitar wankery is always nice :P

I was really impressed with Kanjika's work. Although the pieces were a bit on the quiet side, the arrangement on both pieces was very polished and strong.

Changing the subject, what do you think of Snapple's intros?

[Defend]

Its great how mixed up alot of it is. Perhaps I'm saying that because Knuckleduster is where I'm up to, and people are saying that's one of the more mixed tracks (great btw). Nevertheless, all the tracks I've heard are sounding like they've had alot of thought put into them so they really stand out as new music.

I'm sad that of the 16 teaser tracks, only 14 are available.. I really wanted to hear that Sir Nuts one. :(

Excellent work anyway guys.



Edit - 2 tracks later - And God bless you for some original Icecap... and purely piano.. so good and deliberating.. thank you so much.

[MaxFrost]

just wait till Live at the Sandopolis

[spongerman1]

kanjika! great songs :)

[Skull Kid]

Sweeeet!

From what I've heard of this project so far, it's amazing. It took a long time, but it was worth it!

[Fishy]

Downloading while i'm at school, can't wait to hear this stuff.

[Antipode]

I have no constructive criticism to offer.

HELL. YES.

Thank you guys.

[OverCoat]

hey kanjika


nice cumshot

[klm09]

This project is totally worth it for Scrambled Eggman alone. It's now one of my favorite remixes ever. Each remix is good or great overall. The rock / metal ones are the ones that I like best.

\m/

[Antipode]

I'd like to add that while with many previous projects I've felt the tracks are a mixed bag, I can honestly say that I thoroughly enjoyed and will constantly replay every one of these.

[Faded-Myth]

This was worth the wait and then some. The original tunes from allt he Sonic games populate my iPod, all providing me with nostalgia and each bringing forth a particular memory or feeling when I hear them. But the ones that get the most air time are probably the Sonic 3 & Knuckles themes by far. The best game in the series, (alongside Sonic CD) and by far it contains the most fitting music that really tell the story.

The remix you guys have created don't just mimic the originals, nor do they simply play off the tunes. These interpretations actually seek out the themes and builds upon them. The original tune is still definitely evident, (which is desirable - nobody wants a theme they can't recognize), but you've also expanded on them and really utilized them to the fullest. I love the variation between hard rock and sweeping epic...ness.

In fact the songs inspired me so much ("Secluded Stronghold" made me cry ;_; )I just had to work on an original piece of S3&K art. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/43203126/

Thanks for a fantastic soundtrack. It's a work of art.

[Dahlia]

Now seeding. I enjoyed it! Lots of nice tracks in there. I like house and Hetcenus' a lot, among others.

[andyjayne]

Sweet. 'nuff said.

[Ixzion]

Thank God it's out! I tried waiting up, but I said screw it. But that just let me get a nice present for waking up!

Fantastic work, might I add. I had to listen to Hydrochill first, as it was my most anticipated song on the entire list. But then I gave the rest of you a chance. And you didn't disappoint, either. If Sega ever made a S3&K remake, the songs would have to sound like this.

Keep up the good work in the future on whatever you do. All of you.

-Ix

[Defend]

I thought I had heard Krispy, but couldn't see his name anywhere.

So I'm gonna say it again.. I want the teaser site's background tracks tooooo... :(

[Dunther]

106 - Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster (Marble Garden).mp3 don't run on windows media player...why?o.O

It runs on WMP. All I did was change the tags so they'd show up in the folder it was stored in.

Thank you very much!

[The Joker]

Yeah, me & Krispy's track didn't make it on the bonus album. Maybe one day he'll actually finish it. You should totally pester him.

Also, Once I d/l all the tracks, I'll leave some comments.

[The Mac Attack]

I've been working my way through the tracks, and I must say...

Kanjika...YOU FREAKIN' RULE!!!

I'd been following your Sky Sanctuary mix back when the WIPs were about on VGMix. Back then, it was one of my favourite mixes. Now, you have truly gone above and beyond - a masterpiece!

And top work all round from everyone!

(Hetcenus = pure class)

[Aamean]

This album has really outdone itself. Great work by everyone. I have a few favorites, but I really don't think it's fair to single out people because this album is just so awesome overall. There are so many different styles here that even the most picky listener could find at least one track they enjoy.

Quality isn't outdone by quantity here; these are all great tracks.

special thanks to the people doing this project, as I have been listening to this all night while I've been writing an essay that's due now in...6... hours. It's kept me sane and relaxed during the one all nighter writing session

[Hadyn]

I want the teaser site's background tracks tooooo... :(

I think I should clear up what happened here. There were something like 15 tracks on the teaser site, and we all held a vote-off for a top 5 that would be added to the project.

The top 5 voted were:
Rayza's Azure Lake 14
Aku - water on the dancefloor 13
Hadyn - Heads Up For Tails 12
Kanjika - credits 8
Gamebox - Ice Cap 4 Life (WIP) 7

And Lava Passion/Hydrochill were also added as an extra bonus.

The other teaser tracks will be made available eventually, but they're not part of the official project and thus will have their own, separate release when we decide the time's right =)

[Eclipser1]

The other teaser tracks will be made available eventually


Woohoo! Even those WIPs were top-notch. For months I had the teaser site open at work with the songs looping all day long. I was hoping that they would eventually all come out in downloadable form.

I'm at work unfortunately, so I can't download everything now :( Just a few tracks will have to do to sustain me until I get home tonight...

[genghisdani]

Because no-one has mentioned this yet as far as I saw, I thought I'd ask: is there any album art or are there any CD labels for the project?

[KyleJCrb]

Because no-one has mentioned this yet as far as I saw, I thought I'd ask: is there any album art or are there any CD labels for the project?

There will be.

[Hale-Bopp]

Yes! More AkumajoBelmont!

*grabs that first*

I'll be grabbing the rest of the tracks shortly enough. :P

[Eclipser1]

Neither Heads up for Tails nor Water on the Dancefloor play in iTunes. (I suspect none of the bonus WIPs will).

[Cyan]

Reflections after a quick listen: I like "Walk on water", very nice an' funky. I love the rockmixes as well. Dead Batteries is sexy.

[Defend]

Well at least those teasers will be out eventually then. So I suppose bugging Krispy is out of the question.

When you do release them, how will we know?

And yeah, if I'd known about the project at all before today, I would have been listening to that teaser site heaps.

[Hadyn]

When you do release them, how will we know?


We'll probably update the title of this topic here, as well as adding a new news post on the project release site :)

[D-Lux]

I am impressed with so many tracks from this project I don't even know where to start. To everyone involved: Nice work!

[Nineko]

Neither Heads up for Tails nor Water on the Dancefloor play in iTunes. (I suspect none of the bonus WIPs will).The bonus mixes have non-standard (or broken?) headers, I had troubles with them as well. My Winamp recognizes them as 32000Hz tracks for no reason. Also some non-bonus tracks have broken tags, but I don't really care. I'm here for the music, not to read tags :p

Given that, iTunes sucks and you should grab another player.

Defend check your PMs :)

edit: Media Player Classic can't read the bonus tracks at all. Whoever encoded them didn't do a good work. Sorry to be rude, but this is a fact. Headers and tags are non-standard and/or broken too often.

[Mozgus]

housethegrate, you're getting better and better. Best track on the album!

[Rexy]

For what could have been the nineth-twelfth time, my competition menu track is supposed to be labelled as Schumacher's Bar. Why do people forget the apostrophe and shizzle? :?

Either way, I'm glad it managed to come through. I heard some tracks by preview weeks ago, and went for Dan B's and GameBoX's stuff first on release. Tonight, I will hear the full thing and I will love you so much for working so hard on making this baby shine :D

[jontilton]

album's awesome! i just downloaded this morning, well worth the wait. Where can I pick up spire's album art? I see him credited on the site, but i can't find where to download it....

[Holy Warrior Azar]

Wow, I'm so psyched it's finally out! Here are some (not so) productive comments:

This seems to have a lot to offer. So many genres were covered and it seems like everyone excelled in their respective areas. I think pretty much all the songs I've been through so far do the originals more than justice. The two opening tracks were pretty tight, and very reminiscent. Divided from Grace was pretty cool. Walk on Water came across to me as somewhat unusual considering the artist, but in that regard was still very amazing. Knuckle Duster was pretty cool. I certainly wasn't expecting lyrics so that was actually a nice little surprise. Hetcenus deserves mad props for what he did with Ice Caps, it kind of gave me the urge to start a mosh pit, and I usually don’t get THAT excited over piano tracks. :P Just about all the synth tracks were pretty freaking cool, but I have to go back and hear them all again so I can make more specific comments. Also, I'd like to second this:

Kanjika...YOU FREAKIN' RULE!!!

I think that about says it all. I don’t think Sky Sanctuary will ever sound quite as good as it did in "Breathtaking Vision". And finally, my favorite track so far has been "The Doomsday", because it was so cool it nearly had me screaming like a girl in excitement.

This was overall some excellent music. All of you guys rock!

[Fishy]

I am holding housethegrate personally responsible for the time i spend not doing homework for the next few weeks. Can that get any funkier?

This is all awesome stuff. Well done guys.

[Hetcenus]

album's awesome! i just downloaded this morning, well worth the wait. Where can I pick up spire's album art? I see him credited on the site, but i can't find where to download it....
I think there are links to it on the end pages of the last history thread... in case they aren't there, just contact Spire...

[hobo]

Pretty sweet album guys, well done.

If anyone wants it, I have some of my unofficial album art here: Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/cover1.jpg) | Special Disc Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/specialcover1.jpg)
(Original S/K Logo art made by BLueBeRRyKiWi, used with permission)
I can upload the rest if anyone is interested.

[BLueBeRRyKiWi]

For what could have been the nineth-twelfth time, my competition menu track is supposed to be labelled as Schumacher's Bar.

I'm sorry for that, just corrected the tracklist on the website, although correcting the mp3 names would be really painful (uploading again, re-editing links, making an archive for like the 4th time), and it wouldn't match the torrent anymore.


Anyway, I already expressed my love to Hadyn and SnappleMan personnaly last week, but I'll make it more public.

I love every single track it that project. Every one of them is surprising in its way. I wasn't expecting such attempts at IceCap, Death Egg, Marble Garden...

Am I also the only listener to have noticed allusions to other Sonic games ? At 3:15 in Hetcenus' "That Freezing Feeling", you can clearly hear part of Volcano Valley Act 1&2 from Sonic 3D Blast.
I think Rexy also used the main menu/super Sonic theme in Divided from Grace.
Scrambled Eggman sounds a lot like some "Shadow of the Ninja" tune (especially at 2:35, that's almost exactly the same theme).
And I've been told so, but my brother instantly catched the Judas Priest cover at the end of Doomsday.

I actually played the whole game again with the tracks as background music, and it's awesome. Tension actually builds up. You may think that Death Egg track is kind of an outsider, but when you play the game, after an hour and a half or two hours, that freaking tracks gets to your nerves, slowly but surely preparing you to the upcoming arockalypse :).


I'm delighted, I'm glad for you, thank you all for these 2 hours of pure happiness.

[Rexy]

I understand the strain it can get to re-hosting everything all over again. Still I'm glad it'll get corrected (again?) down the line if not already. Thank you.

oh and...

I think Rexy also used the main menu/super Sonic theme in Divided from Grace.
Indeed you got that right, but there's still more. From the top of my head there's about five or six other minor references fit in there.

Should I say that the first person to find about four of these gets a remix request?

[jontilton]

Pretty sweet album guys, well done.

If anyone wants it, I have some of my unofficial album art here: Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/cover1.jpg) | Special Disc Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/specialcover1.jpg)
(Original S/K Logo art made by BLueBeRRyKiWi, used with permission)
I can upload the rest if anyone is interested.

awesome, i can't decide if i like this or the official album art (i found it by the way) better.... do u have a higher resolution?

[Hetcenus]

Am I also the only listener to have noticed allusions to other Sonic games ? At 3:15 in Hetcenus' "That Freezing Feeling", you can clearly hear part of Volcano Valley Act 1&2 from Sonic 3D Blast.

I'm so glad it didn't go unnoticed, as it usually is on the original. :D
One more to go!

[BLueBeRRyKiWi]

From the top of my head there's about five or six other minor references fit in there.

Found a special stage reference around 2:30, and why does that part right after sound a lot like Ecco the Dolphin? That same track also ends with some Hydrocity notes.
I can't find anything else in Divided from Grace.

Beneath the Ashes also has some of Hidden Palace theme at the end, if I'm not mistaken. And Shumacher's Bar definitely has the Sonic 3 main menu theme at 1:52, and repeating some time after.

God I love this kind of stuff.

[Spoom]

Easily, easily the best project on the site and probably the best remix project I've ever heard. There is nothing I would change here. I would probably put the entire thing on my MP3 player if it would fit. Everything on here is composed of pure awesome. In short,
Feedback: Sex.

Opinion: Sex.

Final grade: I came.

[Rexy]

why does that part right after sound a lot like Ecco the Dolphin?
I never thought of Ecco homages to be honest :P but now that you mention it, yeah, it does seem to be similar in feel to that kind of ambient feel the Ecco musics had.

Not quite there for a request, but you just earned yourself a cookie ^_~

[Xenon Odyssey]

downloading the torrent now...i'll post some general opinions later.

guaranteed that my mix will be the absolute worst thing on this album, despite it being a bonus track. i am TOTALLY upgrading it for an OCR submit...

[SonicTweaker]

Am I also the only listener to have noticed allusions to other Sonic games ? At 3:15 in Hetcenus' "That Freezing Feeling", you can clearly hear part of Volcano Valley Act 1&2 from Sonic 3D Blast.

I'm so glad it didn't go unnoticed, as it usually is on the original. :D
One more to go!
Scrap Brain, from the Game Gear version of Sonic 1. First thing I head when I played that song. ;)

[PlastikBag]

This stuff is pretty awesome. But what the hell happened to Rayza's WIP? That stuff was awesome on the teaser site and now it's been slowed down. It lost its energy.

More comments on the actual project later.

Edit: Nevermind, musicmatch doesn't play the track correctly, I had to re-encode it.

[Hetcenus]

Scrap Brain, from the Game Gear version of Sonic 1. First thing I head when I played that song. ;)
:D
Beneath the Ashes also has some of Hidden Palace theme at the end, if I'm not mistaken.
Right!

[Murmeli Walan]

From the top of my head there's about five or six other minor references fit in there.

Found a special stage reference around 2:30, and why does that part right after sound a lot like Ecco the Dolphin? That same track also ends with some Hydrocity notes.
I can't find anything else in Divided from Grace.

God I love this kind of stuff.

There's also the Sonic 3 title screen reference right at the beginning.

Plus, the Sonic 3 Knuckles' Theme hides around the middle of iMushroom. You guys wanted to make sure nearly every piece of S3K music got in, didn't you? :wink:

[Rexy]

There's also the Sonic 3 title screen reference right at the beginning.
Blueberry already said that about a page ago, Walan. :P

[hobo]

Pretty sweet album guys, well done.

If anyone wants it, I have some of my unofficial album art here: Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/cover1.jpg) | Special Disc Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/specialcover1.jpg)
(Original S/K Logo art made by BLueBeRRyKiWi, used with permission)
I can upload the rest if anyone is interested.

awesome, i can't decide if i like this or the official album art (i found it by the way) better.... do u have a higher resolution?

I'll get round to making that in the next couple of days. Thanks for the praise though!

[Dhsu]

I have to compliment Rexy on the sequenced acoustic guitar solo in "Divided from Grace." Hot stuff.

[Nineko]

From the top of my head there's about five or six other minor references fit in there.

Should I say that the first person to find about four of these gets a remix request?Being a Sonic fan, I got them all when I listened to your tracks for the first time :p

But I didn't post them (and I'm not going to), I don't want to spoil these to other listeners.

[Xenon Odyssey]

Neither Heads up for Tails nor Water on the Dancefloor play in iTunes. (I suspect none of the bonus WIPs will).The bonus mixes have non-standard (or broken?) headers, I had troubles with them as well. My Winamp recognizes them as 32000Hz tracks for no reason. Also some non-bonus tracks have broken tags, but I don't really care. I'm here for the music, not to read tags :p

Given that, iTunes sucks and you should grab another player.

Defend check your PMs :)

edit: Media Player Classic can't read the bonus tracks at all. Whoever encoded them didn't do a good work. Sorry to be rude, but this is a fact. Headers and tags are non-standard and/or broken too often.

I echo this. Someone fix the tracks plz. I have to use iTunes cuz I don't feel like changing media players and everything (three ppl in the house have iPods, and the other two aren't computer-saavy).

and i want to hear my awful bonus track.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Pretty sweet album guys, well done.

If anyone wants it, I have some of my unofficial album art here: Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/cover1.jpg) | Special Disc Cover (http://www.espiox.net/images/specialcover1.jpg)
(Original S/K Logo art made by BLueBeRRyKiWi, used with permission)
I can upload the rest if anyone is interested.

That's for SURE going on the site.

[Dhsu]

Wow, Kanjika's tracks are incredible. Why hasn't he submitted more stuff to OCR?

[avaris]

wicked nice hobo, simple design yet it looks badass

Great proj guys. The live instrument influence is def a nice touch and gives the proj a certain feel.

Gotta say I love house's track, funky and catchy guitar. Great stuff from Kanjika as well, guess he really had to hold up the orchestral goodness for this proj.

That lava reef track had me listening tons of times to see how you guys rearranged it. Def inventive and new.

Overall all the songs sound very well mastered too, guess all the hard work paid off. This whole proj has a very distinct feel to it.

Oh yeah sweet flash design hadyn!

[Black Mage]

I think there's something wrong with tracks 8 - 14 of the Bonus Tracks. I've loaded them into iTunes and all I get when I try to play them is a bunch of garbled sqweaks and squalks.

[SnappleMan]

iTunes is for gays.

[Murmeli Walan]

Ack, you're right, Rexy. :P

And I've been told so, but my brother instantly catched the Judas Priest cover at the end of Doomsday.

From the Minibosses Forum over at The Shizz:



Any one catch judas preist refrance? hahahaha metal meltdown?


Nope, Electric Eye.....

After writing that section I realized the progression was identical to that part in Electric Eye, so I stole Tiptons solo... :)

[Nineko]

I think there's something wrong with tracks 8 - 14 of the Bonus Tracks. I've loaded them into iTunes and all I get when I try to play them is a bunch of garbled sqweaks and squalks.Hello? Were you reading the thread?
I've been saying for about a page and a half that headers and tags are broken for several files, including the bonus tracks (but not only them).
Actually, I pointed this out in #ocremix a few minutes after the project's release, but everyone was like "OMG YOU LIE THE TRACKS ARE WORKING FINE".

Oh well, Winamp can read them anyway. Most of the times I get wrong titles and authors, but it's not a big issue.

[Black Mage]

Hello? Were you reading the thread?

I think it's obvious that I wasn't.

[Nineko]

Hello? Were you reading the thread?

I think it's obvious that I wasn't.Sorry, dude. I didn't really mean to be rude. But this issue really upsets me as well. What's the point in releasing a project with broken mp3s? Ok, it's a player-related issue, since some of them can read the tracks just fine, but a project should be 100% compatible. For people who use iTunes, Winamp, Quick Time, Real Player. And yes, even the black shit Windows Media Player. The bonus tracks won't play in Media Player Classic (at least, not the version I have).

I don't care to go against "the big guys". There is a problem here. It is a fact.

1: Several tags are missing the closing byte. So some players will read the tags as follows:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1881/3964tx0.png

2: Some headers are broken. This causes some players to crash (iTunes, Media Player Classic):
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8486/8081jf3.png

Now, no one can force people to use a specific player. So the mp3s are to be re-encoded and re-tagged from 0.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Blame it on Snappleman.

[Citan]

Not bad. BTW, kick-ass logo for the project. :D

[Hadyn]

Oh yeah sweet flash design hadyn!

The first person to mention me in six pages, I was getting worried nobody liked me! Thankyou =)

edit: And you spelled my name right! Even more impressive!

I think my day's been made...

[Rexy]

I have to compliment Rexy on the sequenced acoustic guitar solo in "Divided from Grace." Hot stuff.
Whoa, thanks - I thought I'd get shot down for that O.O
If it helps, I'm getting the real thing for Christmas, so the acoustic is becoming a bit of a passion at the mo.

I still think that my drums sound like they were processed in a washing machine, but nevermind. All's well that ends well :)

[jontilton]

I echo this. Someone fix the tracks plz. I have to use iTunes cuz I don't feel like changing media players and everything (three ppl in the house have iPods, and the other two aren't computer-saavy).

and i want to hear my awful bonus track.

I fixed the tracks using a converter and now they work fine in iTunes, im uploading them to sendspace for you, and the link will be ready in a few minutes

[Pink]

Everything works just fine for me... except the occasional clicks from my crappy soundcard, but that's to be expected (Stupid useless Dell laptop soundcards...).

Finally... a remix project on this site that I not only like... I absolutely adore it. :P Project Chaos definitely gets the paws down vote of Best Project so far for me. XD This is most likely due to my typical genre biases, but hey, it's a really well-done project and I'm certainly impressed.

Great work to all those who contributed, Project Chaos will definitely be a treasure here on OC. :)

[jontilton]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/y1ckn2

^^^ theres the fixed for itunes tracks

the only thing wrong is a short scratching sound at the beginnning of the track, which can easily be fixed by right clicking the song, then "get info" then "options" then switch the starting time to 0:00.06

[BLueBeRRyKiWi]

I'll upload fixed tracks tomorrow (almost 1 am here). I'm quite busy right now, as exams are approaching.

Please be patient.
I didn't notice those crashes/bugs although I listened to the project on almost everything for almost a week : VLC (MacOS), iTunes (MacOS/Win), mediaplayer classic (Win), Windows Media Player 9/10/11, Quicktime (MacOS/Win), PowerDVD (Win), WinAmp, my own iPod nano... my brother has it on his low-end mp3 usb key...


That's kinda weird actually.

[zircon]

Wow, Kanjika's tracks are incredible. Why hasn't he submitted more stuff to OCR?

He subbed some things when Gray was still around that got rejected. He hasn't submitted since.

[Dark Phazon]

This project is just plain awesome. Excellent music, excellent site, excellent everything.

I'll probobly put up a full review later, but right now, just a few comments:

Walk on Water - wow. just. wow. words cannot describe how much I like this one.

Three Ring Nightfall - This is one of the mixes I'm most impressed with. I don't know much of anything about actual remixing, but to me, Carnival Night seemed like a theme I thought would be really tough to arrange for. But this mix was done really nicely, and is one of my favorites in this project. (plus, for some reason, the opening percussion makes me think of Sonic Rush)

Kanjika mixes - epic.

Before the Storm - doesn't sound at all like Death Egg, but it definitely is the Death Egg (though it took me a few listens to really make the clear connection). Another one that I can't stop listening to.

[Hadyn]

Hey, I'm glad you liked three ring nightfall! I feel all validated and stuff =P

It was certainly a weird track to take on, but i think most sonic music is. This one in particular took me a year to put together over all, including several phases including one point where it was actually destined to be a collaborative effort, with Ellywu2 mixing the drums. I still sort of feel that it would have been a better overall song if he'd stayed with me, but one day he just dissapeared from the net, and I haven't heard from him since so I ended up doing it all on my own~

But yeah, glad you liked it!

~Hadyn

[Kal aMari]

After listening to this Kanjika's stuff...I want his babies.

[Xenon Odyssey]

After listening to this Kanjika's stuff...I want his babies.

seconded

[jmr]

LONG POST WARNING
I've listened to the whole project several times now, and every time I like it more and more.

1. SnappleMan - Sonic the Hedgehog and Knuckles
SAAYY-GUHH! Nice touch.
2. KungFuChicken! - The Wait is Over!
While this isn't quite what I expected it to be like, it's still pretty damn good. It gets a little weird around the 1:11 mark, but recovers at 1:25. I would have liked to seen this one developed a little further.
3. Rexy - Divided from Grace
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE SONIC 3 TITLE SCREEN! I was a bit worried that it wouldn't get included! I really like the varied instrumentation, although the drums sound a little... off (which may have been intentional, I'm not sure). Nice tempo changes too, the faster paced part at 3:52 works well. Nice acoustic guitar sequencing. I like the references to other themes as well.
4. Daniel Baranowsky - Caution: Echidnas May Eat Your Brain
I wasn't expecting anything like this at all! Interesting instrument choices.
5. housethegrate - Walk on Water
I really dig this one. I like how you separated the two acts, but still managed to make it cohesive. Nice work.
6. Daniel Baranowsky - Knuckleduster
What exactly is a knuckleduster anyway? ... Nice fusion of several styles. I was expecting a guitar solo to come in at 2:43 (as per the WIP version I have from a while back) but this new, softer piano ending works very very well.
7. Hadyn - Three Ring Nightfall
This one had me worried from the start. Not the remix, but the source; it seemed to me that it'd be very difficult to re-arrange. I was expecting a straight out cover, but Hadyn did an excellent job turning this one around and making it his own. I really like it, even though I kinda miss the circus-y feel of the original.
8. Hetcenus - That Freezing Feeling
Beautiful. By far the best Ice Cap rendition I've heard to date. As with Rexy's 'Divided From Grace', I like the tempo changes.
9. Gecko Yamori - Elevator Music
Good, but in my opinion it's missing ...something. I dunno what. But something.
10. GaMeBoX - Robotnik Radio
There's a lot of good ideas going in this one, but it doesn't quite do the original track justice in my opinion.
11. GaMeBoX - iMushroom
Again, a lot of good ideas, but it just misses the mark. The intro and first minute or so is great, but after that it starts slipping. The part at 1:41-2:25 seems out of place. However, things do improve after this. Not bad, but it could be better.
12. SnappleMan - Dead Batteries
It's SnappleMan... of course it's awesome! A lot of impressive guitar work on the go in this one.
13. BrainCells - Live at the Sandopolis
I never thought a track with a desert feel would work well as a metal song, but BrainCells has proven otherwise. The orchestral interlude at 1:12-1:26 was a nice touch. I would have liked for the the source tune to be reprised once more at the end though.
14. Rexy, Hetcenus - Beneath the Ashes
Yet another impressive piano track. A great, original arrangement, yet it never strays too far from the original.
15. Kanjika - The Secluded Stronghold
HOLY SHIT. WOW. Did you hear that thunk? It was the sound of my jaw hitting the floor. This track is easily my favorite on the project. It completely blows every other interpretation of this song I've ever heard out of the water.
16. Kanjika - Breathtaking Vision
MY GOD, ANOTHER? Breathtaking indeed!
17. BrainCells, SnappleMan - Scrambled Eggman
Another awesome guitar track from the likes of BrainCells and SnappleMan. Nice breakdown at 1:39.
18. Joker - Before the Storm
I'm not sure what's on the go in this one. I can hear the Death Egg source, but I'd like to hear more of it.
19. SnappleMan - Malicious Fingers
My favorite of the SnappleMan tracks on the project. I like the new drum track that's been added since the version you sent me a while back. It, and everything else in this version, sounds much more polished. I miss the synth that was in the older one at 2:13-onward though, and the current version lacks some of the interchanging guitar/synth sections that I liked so much in the old version. That being said, the new synth solo at 3:54 makes up for it in spades.
20. SnappleMan, Ashane, norg - The Doomsday
Clever intro, I like it. It's about time there was a decent Doomsday remix, and this trio did it excellently... well, almost. Everything goes fine until the 2:07 mark; it seems as if the track was spliced at that point, and the change is a bit jarring. I think it would of worked better if the new section was introduced in under the static at 1:53. I also would have liked to hear the source again in the ending.
21. Red Tailed Fox - So Long and Thanks for All the...
...fish? I'm not sure if I like that 'squeaking'. It kind of detracts from the song in my opinion. I also would have liked to hear more of the synth at 1:13 in other places in the song. Otherwise, a great arrangement.
22. chthonic - Red Sphere, Blue Sphere
Pretty sweet work, chthonic. I like the instrument choices, especially at 2:15-2:32.
23. Rexy - Schumacher's Bar
Again, nice work including other themes into the arrangement. I didn't really like the source that much, but this track is pretty good.
24. Ross Kmet - Momentary Standstill
Although I'm not all that fond of the intro, things pick up at 2:07.
25. Ichitootah - Helium Stairways
I was expecting a more... faster paced take on this one. Nice work nonetheless, it's one of my favorites on the project.
26. Hetcenus - Ivory Gadget
Yet another stunning piano arrangement from Hetcenus. I'm looking forward to hearing more of your work in the future.
27. Joker - Heat Blur
I like this one a bit more than your take on the Death Egg track. I would have liked to hear the 3:05 section earlier in the track, before it started to fade out.
28. jmr - Eternal Excavation
meh. This one should have been a lot better. Oh well.
29. Rayza - Groove Basin [WIP]
Why? Why did your hard drive have to crash? Even in it's unfinished state, this is one of my favorite tracks on the project. ...Are you sure this was the latest version? I can remember a slightly longer version that didn't simply cut out at the end.
30. AkumajoBelmont - Water on the Dancefloor [WIP]
Will this one ever get finished? It's pretty good!
31. Hadyn - Heads Up for Tails
An excellent track, although it seems a little repetitive at times. I like the strings at 2:20.
32. Kanjika - Stranger to Closure [WIP]
Again, wow. I'd like to see this one completed as well. I'm a sucker for good orchestral arrangements.
33. GaMeBoX - Ice Cap 4 Life [WIP]
I liked this one much more than your other tracks on the project, GaMeBoX. It seems different enough from the multitude of other Ice Cap remixes out there, I'd like to see this one brought to completion.
34. Kanjika - Hydrochill [WIP]
Very nice work, yet another track that's worth pursuing.
35. Xenon Odyssey - Lava Passion [WIP]
FINISH THIS ONE. NOW.

The quality of this project is undeniable. There's enough variety here that it can be enjoyed by pretty much everybody. There are few tracks with room for improvement, but even those tracks are still pretty damn awesome.
Nice work on the web design, Hadyn and BLueberry.
I'll comment on the artwork when it's released.

A big thank you to all involved in this project. I feel honored to be included on the same album as you guys.

[N3X15]

This is the Sonic project to end all Sonic projects. Jesus Christ, I almost wept in Kanjika's tracks, and the Braincell's tracks made my neck hurt from headbanging. This shit is SU-FUCKING-PERB.

BTW, I have a siterip of the demo site that s2b made at one point, so lemme know if anyone wants it :o

[your the man now dog]

just want to update my previous post. Hadyn's Three Ring Nightfall is my favorite track. I love the pluckiness of the song. I think I've looped this baby for the past 2 hours.

[BlueMage]

I'll just reiterate what I said on the guestbook.

Snappleman, every track you touched turned to awesome. On fire. Same went with BrainCells, and I was quite glad to see the two of you do another collab. Top stuff gentlemen.

Hadyn, your tracks still have very much a Linkin Park vibe to them. This is to your credit - Linkin Park make great music (shame about the lyrics) so good stuff all round.

Mr Baranowsky - wtf lyrics? Good track but wtf lyrics? You're lucky you can sing well.

housethegrate, you did great justice to Hydrocity's theme with your track. Thank you.

Kanjika, your first track wasn't anything spectacular, but your WIPs were pretty good and your take on Sky Sanctuary was incredible. Great to hear.

Chthonic, nice and energetic track you've got there.

jmr, I admit, I was expecting the worst when I saw what your source tune was, as Endless Mine was one of my favourites and I was sure it wouldn't be done justice. I was wrong. You did a superb job with Endless Mine, and for that I thank you.

To the remixers not explicitly named: Your tracks were decent, but just didn't jump out at me. Keep in mind I was listening to these at around 7:30am local time, and it was fairly noisy, so therefore this shouldn't be taken as an absolute indication that your tracks aren't as good as the mixers' named.

WIP artists, goddammit, why do you leave us hanging? Why?

Overall, good work ladies and gentlemen.

[Fox_Starwing]

I woke up this morning, another day at the office... Then I look at OCR (I've been checking just about daily for the release of project chaos since the WIP page got locked). And what do you know, ITS THERE! I just about hollered "YYYEEEEEHHAAAAAA" at the top of my lungs, but my family was still asleep. Thanks Snappleman and everyone who worked long and hard on this project.

For those who have already rocked. I salute you.

[housethegrate]

I remember back in March, I think, Snappleman kicked me from the project because I was late on my song. I freaked out and finished the rest of it in like two days so I could get back on board. Hahaha. Seems funny in retrospect.

Anyways, it's cool to be a part of this project.

[Subz1987]

I remember back in March, I think, Snappleman kicked me from the project because I was late on my song. I freaked out and finished the rest of it in like two days so I could get back on board. Hahaha. Seems funny in retrospect.

Anyways, it's cool to be a part of this project.

Good thing you did. Your song is amazing

BTW, Kanjika, are you going to finish the S3 Credits WIP and submit it? Cause you should. It's an awesome piece

[PlastikBag]

Oh man, now that I gave this entire thing a listen, I can easily say that this is the best site project yet. I'm really sad that Rayza's tune could never be completed because holy hell it's amazing. But on to the actual project...

Kanjika surprised me the most. When I first saw the project, I saw that he had some of my favorite songs, but I had never heard anything done by him. Both of his songs are freakin epic.

Hetcenus also surprised me. Never heard anything by him. Classy piano stuff. Rexy did great, too.

Hydrocity is my favorite tune on the soundtrack, I nearly shit my pants when I saw that house got it. Good to see my extremely high expectations were not disappointed.

Braincells and Snappleman (as well as norg and Ashane), hawt shit. I rocked hard to all of it.

I also loved the rest of the stuff. I especially liked some of the quirky stuff by GameBox and DannyB. I found myself grooving hard to Robotnik Radio. All in all, there weren't any bad tracks. Great work all around. I really can't pick any favorites because so many of them are just that good.

[arrlaari]

Of all the songs (which I can hear, the torrent doesn't have fixed tracks) the only one that was "meh" was the death egg mix. I liked the Ice Cap one, but both Ice Cap and Death Egg weren't recognizable to me.

Everything not mentioned in the above was unmitigated awesome.

A special shout out to the lyrics in Knuckleduster for having a particular quality which I require in nearly all lyrics I listen to, which is the quality of having incomprehensible words. I'm very particular about this - if merely the sentences are incomprehensible, it's annoying, but if I can't tell what the words are, it's just another instrument.

[Hadyn]

You... didn't recognize ice cap?...

That's just... slightly odd...

And yeah, I think in the future, it's probably not really the nicest thing to do - singling out tracks you didn't love. Maybe next time focus on your favorites or something, it's slightly less rude.

[Rexy]

Don't worry about it, Hadyn. If he wants to state his opinion via mentioning its strengths as well as its weaknesses, that's fine. At least he's not directly flaming Het's and Joker's capabilities.

[The Joker]

OMG, I want to see that dude in the parking lot, for some... car parking, but really, it's to be expected when you do something completely unexpected with a source. Anyway, still d'l the tracks when I can (danged dial up!). So far, Doomsday & Malicious fingers are teh intercourse.

[Eclipser1]

I must admit, there are a few songs that I can't recognize and a few songs that take about a minute for me to be able to recognize a theme. Either my musical ear sucks, it's been far too long since I've played the game, or you guys are too damn subtle. :)

However, I want to make it clear that I think every song is K I C K A S S, even the ones I can't recognize. Rockin' guitar work, piano music that makes me want to cry, fresh and wonderful interpretations of old favorites, it's all there.

please don't park on me...

[CleverConveyence]

Holy hell, Live at the Sandopolis is fucking BRUUUUUUTAAALLL. I loves it. \m/

BrainCells for the goddamn!

[Sindra]

Ice Cap is recognizable if you listen carefully. It's very subtle, perhaps a bit too much. However it's not bad by any means, and Gamebox's mix is more atune to the original, if that's what you feel you're missing out on.

[Faded-Myth]

I wasn't too sure what to make of it at first, but I've come to adore "Knuckleduster". It's just so...fruity.

[Bummerdude]

This project is great.

[Aamean]

I'm making a second post because this album is so freaking awesome.

One of the ways to measure if a remix is good is (if you have played the game of course) if you're listening to the music and you find yourself thinking, "Damn, I really want to play this again!" This album does that for me.

It's funny, last spring I randomly downloaded Sonic 3 and S&K and played through it a couple times. While playing I noticed two things, how great the music is - especially considering sega genesis' not so great capabilities (as compared to SNES) - and then also found myself asking how anyone preferred Mario over Sonic.

Then I was like, "Fuck, they need to do a remix project of these two games."

And now we have Project Chaos. You guys are awesome, thank you.

[GeckoYamori]

I noticed two things, how great the music is - especially considering sega genesis' not so great capabilities (as compared to SNES)

Might want to do some research before jumping to conclusions.

[Black Mage]

Okay, I finally got the Bonus Tracks to work with iTunes. Just had to run them through GoldWave and re-save them.

Awesome project, all!

[Lotd2242]

This came out pretty well I think.

My only criticism is that there were a few that I thought were great and intricate musical works...but had little to do with their original counterparts. Those few seemed to either bury the actual theme or alter it enough so as to be mostly unrecognizable. That was kind of disappointing because some of the tracks guilty of this are some of the best from the original score. Even so, those pieces were really well done.

My personal favorite is Hydrocity, but there are quite a few tracks in that list that I find fantastic. I also wanted to mention that I was pleasantly surprised by Kanjika's take on Hidden Palace and Sky Sanctuary; it was both unexpected and very well executed.

Overall, a good job by all involved.

[SnappleMan]

I also have a problem with a few of the tracks being not as good as the originals, like the ones that are track 1-35... :)

There's no way to compete with the FM synthesis goodness of the Sega Genesis, especially when it's done so amazingly well like in this game. But overall, I doo agree that some of the more inexperianced artists took more of a liberal approach to the songs. Although I think it's more a matter of losign focus of the original songs.

The OST is strongest in its bass and drums, and while the melodies are very good, they're not as defining as the rhythm section. It takes a keen ear and a good understanding of what it is about the song that makes it recognizable that will help you produce a song which is easily recognizable and at the same time not just a straight cover.

I mean, take Rexy's Angel Island rendition or Gecko's Launch Base song, for example, if they had concentrated more on keeping the original basslines intact and used them to hold the song together better, their songs would be recognizable while at the same time allowing for all kinds of arrangement in the melody department.

Don't get me wrong, those and all the other songs are great, but the key is to try and figure out what the composers were going for, and then try to expand on their vision in a way you think they'd have taken it had it not been a 50 second loop for a videogame.

[OverCoat]

how great the music is - especially considering sega genesis' not so great capabilities (as compared to SNES)

D:
FM for the win

[SnappleMan]

how great the music is - especially considering sega genesis' not so great capabilities (as compared to SNES)

D:
FM for the win

If I could ban him from listening to the project, I would :(

[KyleJCrb]

Don't get me wrong, those and all the other songs are great, but the key is to try and figure out what the composers were going for, and then try to expand on their vision in a way you think they'd have taken it had it not been a 50 second loop for a videogame.

Or just do what you do and rock the original song the fuck out, with some rad solos thrown in for good measure. Works for me. :P

[Subz1987]

Before the Storm wasn't too bad of a piece. I liked the space station mood in the beginning, but the Death Egg theme really didn't fit into the song, so when the theme came in at 2:08, it sounded sloppy. I love the idea behind the remix, but it didn't fit in with the Death Egg theme

[CleverConveyence]

Love the project, real bang-up job.

But can someone explain to me what the hell happens in the second half of Doomsday? It's like the tune changes completely, to something I don't recognize...

[Sindra]

how great the music is - especially considering sega genesis' not so great capabilities (as compared to SNES)

D:
FM for the win

If I could ban him from listening to the project, I would :(

I second this. It's pure blasphemy to say such things.

[KyleJCrb]

Love the project, real bang-up job.

But can someone explain to me what the hell happens in the second half of Doomsday? It's like the tune changes completely, to something I don't recognize...

Yup, that's what happens.

[Yeet]

Completely awesome project. Turned out better than Blood on Asphalt if I dare say so. Fav. track is Dead Batteries, the guitar solo is so sick. Can I PLEASE get permission to turn it into a simfile for StepMania?

[Shaded Spriter]

I am downloading the iTunes fix from this thread - I hope it works...I tryed changing the start time manually and it didn't work...

It is really annoying and if I wasn't the sort of person who wanted to help people fix there problems I wouldn't of been here posting about this (got knows how many people have this problem who are not on OCR.)

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

this project rocks...

[Malcos]

So many great songs in this project. My favourites are:

Walk on water: I was suprised to hear this done in a rock style, but it was excellently done!

Three Ring Nightfall: Took the source to a whole new place, gave it a real action feel, not many would have gone for something so bold. Love it.

Robotnik Radio: full of jazzy groove.

I thought Hecenus' piano performances were amazing, hope to hear more of his stuff in the future. Shame about those WIPS not being finished, especially Hydrochill.
Overall, I love this. Great work guys. :D

[Xenon Odyssey]

I am downloading the iTunes fix from this thread - I hope it works...I tryed changing the start time manually and it didn't work...

It is really annoying and if I wasn't the sort of person who wanted to help people fix there problems I wouldn't of been here posting about this (got knows how many people have this problem who are not on OCR.)

As someone already mentioned in this thread, just open up the songs in GoldWave (http://www.goldwave.com) and re-save them. They will work then (I've iTunes and have done this, so it does work).

[SnappleMan]

Love the project, real bang-up job.

But can someone explain to me what the hell happens in the second half of Doomsday? It's like the tune changes completely, to something I don't recognize...

Well, the second half is roughly based on the original theme. Considering the first half of the song is a note for note cover of the original, I wanted to do something slightly different for the second half. That way you get a faithful arrangement of the song, and something different to enjoy once it's over :)

[CleverConveyence]

Love the project, real bang-up job.

But can someone explain to me what the hell happens in the second half of Doomsday? It's like the tune changes completely, to something I don't recognize...

Well, the second half is roughly based on the original theme. Considering the first half of the song is a note for note cover of the original, I wanted to do something slightly different for the second half. That way you get a faithful arrangement of the song, and something different to enjoy once it's over :)
Well, I guess I'll have to listen to it again, knowing that it really is still Doomsday.

Once again, incredible job. My neck hurts from headbanging to BrainCell's tracks and your tracks, and I loves it tbqh.

[BlueMage]

Kanjika, I owe you an apology - after listening to The Secluded Stronghold in a quiet environment, I can conclude it's every bit as awesome as Breathtaking View.

Which means, everything you submitted for this project was made of awesome, and you join a select group of mixers in my opinion which includes the likes of Jarad Hudson, goat and SnappleMan. I am sincerely looking forward to any mixes you submit in the future.

[Liontamer]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:

[avaris]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:

wow...

Oh yeah goin back through and listening to more of the tracks, hadyn's 'three ring nightfall.' Friggin awesome! That really sick backdrop thats comes in the intro and is then embelished later on sounds just like the intro to Dirty Diana by some dude named Michael Jackson. Even though is it's obviously Lava Reef Zone.

[PlastikBag]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:

Wow... So many assholes.

[Murmeli Walan]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:

I especially hate the ones where the only similarity between the remix and the original is 3 notes every X amount of seconds.Congrats, you just summed up 99% of ocremix.

Then again, the sonic-cult forums were never the high-point of the internet. :lol:

[KingTiger]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:

I especially hate the ones where the only similarity between the remix and the original is 3 notes every X amount of seconds.Congrats, you just summed up 99% of ocremix.

Then again, the sonic-cult forums were never the high-point of the internet. :lol:

LOL

What I find interesting is that at first everyone there is like, "no way am i wasting my time it will suck" but then, as people start actually listening to Project Chaos, the overall opinion seems to change gradually... :lol:

[Rexy]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:
Larry (and everyone else who replied after him), those posts are from August. They must be merely based on the teaser site. :P
Though yeah, I don't get why they hated OCR so much. If they want the original soundtrack they can just listen to the original soundtrack. What we have here is 35 different interpretations of some classic Sonic music, and there's no way we'll change that to be as really conservative and unpassable as they want them to be, right?

[Liontamer]

These guys love the project. (http://forums.sonic-cult.org/lofiversion/index.php/t1364.html) :lol:
Larry (and everyone else who replied after him), those posts are from August. They must be merely based on the teaser site. :P
I know. But how does that make their comments any less :lol: ?

[OverCoat]

Though yeah, I don't get why they hated OCR so much.

It's quite simple. In their minds, all we're doing is changing perfectly good music. Arranged videogame music is a terribly niche thing, and we really have no right to complain when billions of people will just not "get" it. Our little circle expands every day but there will always be people who don't understand what we do. And this being the internet, well duh, the loud ignoramuses are the ones that type the most [hay wait a sec LoL].

Videogame music is already quite a specific taste, but OCR is getting even more explicit. Tons of people love VG tunes and hold them in high regard, so the opinion that we are essentially ruining their childhood with an improvised solo, new drum beat, "shitty techno," etc. is a popular one that we can... ignore, for the most part. Seriously, who gives a shit? :) It's funny to read, though.

This same topic comes up during every major project release, or a thread on some other forum that ends up being about OCR or VGMix.

[Rexy]

I'm aware of the thought of their "childhood" being ass-wiped, for lack of better terminology at this time of day. That's why I said if they want to hear the original soundtrack, they can grab the original soundtrack.

I do bear the thought that they might have wanted covers though. While there's usually nothing wrong with that (read: xoc), I seem to find the appeal a little limiting and sound better with the original sound chip they originated from. On top of that, I wouldn't go as far as calling that method complete poppycock without reasons to back it up, so people doing that to OCR seems to make things feel uncomfortable. But there's possibly no point in arguing as it's other peoples' opinions at the end of the day.

Scott, I much appreciate your "essay" on this (LoL~!!). Though I wonder what other people have to say about that, I'd just finish up with a simple "thankyou very much" ;)

[Kadosho]

One word, excellent.
Must keep listening, even with a smile on my face.
8)

[Sindra]

After listening to it a few more times just kinda chilling on my bed, I have a new appreciation for Hetcenus's "Freezing Feeling". :D

Couple more holdout zealots here too:
http://boards2.sega.com/sega_board/viewtopic.php?t=67446&sid=d699c8bcd36d5b795c9c75212779b5c8

[random person]

What I don't get is that everyday there are people making fanfics, fanarts, fangames, and everything with the word "fan" attached to it, and most of the time they are praised even if it's only for the amount of work needed to create them, but then, there's an album like Project Chaos, and some people is like: "oh no, something different from the original, it's pointless and/or crap".

Is it really that different? Or does people think ReMixes are pulled out of the ass and require no effort?

(sorry about my bad english :( )

[Holy Warrior Azar]

It's funny how they seem to complete shun any fan made arrangements that dont sound exactly like the original and yet find stuff like this (http://games.adultfanfiction.net/main.php?list=604.html) perfectly acceptable. :?

[Rexy]

I agree. I can admit to be someone who does fanart (though more regular than the usual) and fanfiction (haven't written any since march last year tho). And when I do, I sometimes like to mess around with the original concepts, yet go for something as artistic as done on the project.

From what I've witnessed on various fanart/fanfiction web pages, people seem to mainly praise even the most off-character fanfics (mostly yaoi fics... ouch) and have crushes on certain videogame characters expressed in artwork, yet thinking that videogame music should be left alone is a confusing thing to put through.

I don't want to be the person to say that in front of anyone, but someone should. It should be a point worth taking into consideration.

[Sindra]

I agree with Rexy. Why should recomposing music from a game be any different than an artist or writer giving their own unique "spin" on things? Because in essence, it's the same bloody thing.

I mean, this project was done *by Sonic fans*, which means they have a deep appreciation for the game and the music itself, as much as any other Sonic fan would and moreso. Nobody here is arguing that the orginal tunes need to be revamped...we all know nothing can beat the originals. It's just a form of creative expression...same as anything else. Would it sound better to them if it was renamed "FanMusic" instead of "Remix", so as not to overwhelm their egos?

[Txai]

That's in general a really good album. An interesting effort of a job well done.

Special regards to KFC. He deserves a lot credit.

[PlastikBag]

It's funny how they seem to complete shun any fan made arrangements that dont sound exactly like the original and yet find stuff like this (http://games.adultfanfiction.net/main.php?list=604.html) perfectly acceptable. :?

Sonic Fanfiction
What happens after Shadow goes camping unfolds into a series of... Furs,Minor,M/M,Oral,Anal

hahahahahaha

Ancient Love
Riona, Tikal's daughter, goes on a quest to find the seven chaos emeralds. But her quest gets sidetracked when she meets a certain two-tailed fox. Tails/OC. One shot. OC,M/F,Minor,Furs,Lemon,Oral,Preg

HAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm almost tempted to read one of those just for the laughter that will ensue, but I'm just a tad bit afraid.

And oh yeah, Akumajo, plz finish Water on the Dancefloor, it's awesome.

[CapnHulk]

Not bad.

[GeckoYamori]

The originals are the originals, and if someone wants to TECHNO the heck out of it, it says nothing. Listening to REAL MUSICIANS do it is a lot better.

:D

[theresonlyone]

why cant i get the songs on itunes or my ipod how do i do it been waiting for this album 4 ages

[Mr. Fox]

why cant i get the songs on itunes or my ipod how do i do it been waiting for this album 4 ages

Is it me or there are at least 3 sentences in this message? Anyway, there are instructions all over this thread.

[Hetcenus]

why cant i get the songs on itunes or my ipod how do i do it been waiting for this album 4 ages

Is it me or there are at least 3 sentences in this message? Anyway, there are instructions all over this thread.
Nope, there's only one, since there's no punctuation... ¬¬
Anyway, I'd like to claim my OCRemix sponsored "Last Project Chaos Member to Download Project Chaos" award. Listening to it later today...

[housethegrate]

Anyway, I'd like to claim my OCRemix sponsored "Last Project Chaos Member to Download Project Chaos" award. Listening to it later today...

Sorry dude...can't let you claim that title.

[zikon]

hi guys i was just wondering what font you used on the website for this picture.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7533/intro2ii2.jpg

[Nec5]

I'm not a Sonic fan, but these were pretty neat. For some reason, half of the tracks I kept(about 4) came from the bonus list of songs. The first disc didn't do much for me, but the later songs kicked in for the win.

[Mr. Fox]

why cant i get the songs on itunes or my ipod how do i do it been waiting for this album 4 ages

Is it me or there are at least 3 sentences in this message? Anyway, there are instructions all over this thread.
Nope, there's only one, since there's no punctuation... ¬¬

Shut up, you brazilian retarded.

And you better like my song! Hetcenus "Purrr Classs"

[zdude255]

I think the project is really great, thanks to all that worked on it.

Though I was a bit disappointed in the lack of speedy tracks. It is a Sonic game after all, and none of the tracks really captured that sense of speed.

Scrambled Eggman = NICE

And now I really want to go back and play Sonic 3k... :wink:

[The Joker]

Do you have to actually not have downloaded any tracks to be considered for "Last Project Chaos Member to Download Project Chaos" title? I mean, I've got some tracks, but i'm still d/l... cause I gots dial up. dangit. Though, & maybe this is because I've been in a rock mood, I really like all the rock mixes. Which, I guess, makes disc 2 my favorite at the moment.

[Hetcenus]

Do you have to actually not have downloaded any tracks to be considered for "Last Project Chaos Member to Download Project Chaos" title? I mean, I've got some tracks, but i'm still d/l... cause I gots dial up. dangit.
I guess not... just not have downloaded all of them. I also have dialup, so I only finished downloading earlier today, but I'm not at home now, so I can't listen to them... damn...

[Hock]

Any chance of Gamebox finishing Frozen Lavareef? Hell, I'd even be happy with a download of the WIP for now.

I'd totally add it to my "music to have on while my girlfriend is over" playlist. ;) (No, seriously. That's some ACTION right there.)

[Hadyn]

hi guys i was just wondering what font you used on the website for this picture.

(image)

It's called Pixeldust, should be able to find it at abstractfonts.com =)

[SonicDragon]

I have been waiting for this project forever. The game's soundtrack ranks near the top of my all time favorites and being just about the biggest Sonic The Hedgehog fan in Cook County only makes it all the sweeter. But to be brutally honest I thought some of the songs didn't stay close enough to the originals. However SnappleMan's were by far the best. Especially the final boss themes. The man is truly a deity.

[GaMeBoX]

Any chance of Gamebox finishing Frozen Lavareef? Hell, I'd even be happy with a download of the WIP for now.

I'd totally add it to my "music to have on while my girlfriend is over" playlist. ;) (No, seriously. That's some ACTION right there.)

Hey :) (im GaMeBoX, but my account is messed up)
Actually, that one is on ice for good. It will most probably never be finished, but i will pm you a download link in a near future... Also, there are new stuff on the way for the Megaman 4 RemixProject (now in requests forum) if you like my stuff...

[Murmeli Walan]

Hey, just wanted to let you guys know that I submitted the news of Project Chaos a couple of days ago over at SonicHQ (http://www.sonichq.org), one of the largest Sonic fansites around (after Sonic Stadium, of course). You'll find it in the front page news section.

[Hetcenus]

Done listening! IT'S AWESOME. Thanks guys! :D
My top three (not necessarily in order): Dead Batteries, The Secluded Stronghold, Schumacher's Bar.

[GaMeBoX]

from: http://sonichq.mobiusforum.net/newsite/news/
After years of delays and restarts, Project Chaos: A Sonic 3 & Knuckles Arrangement Album has been released at OverClocked ReMix.

Years of delays and restarts... ? A bit over the top imo.. It took over a year, maybe 1 and a half, but not years of restarts.... or did i miss something ??

[Hock]

Any chance of Gamebox finishing Frozen Lavareef? Hell, I'd even be happy with a download of the WIP for now.

I'd totally add it to my "music to have on while my girlfriend is over" playlist. ;) (No, seriously. That's some ACTION right there.)

Hey :) (im GaMeBoX, but my account is messed up)
Actually, that one is on ice for good. It will most probably never be finished, but i will pm you a download link in a near future... Also, there are new stuff on the way for the Megaman 4 RemixProject (now in requests forum) if you like my stuff...

Frozen Lavareef... on ice for good?! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! DX

Ahh, well, the WIP on the teaser site sounded great on its own anyway, so I'd love a link to that! *eagerly awaits* And MM4 happens to have some of my favorite NES Mega Man music. That should be good too, mmhmm.

[Rexy]

from: http://sonichq.mobiusforum.net/newsite/news/
After years of delays and restarts, Project Chaos: A Sonic 3 & Knuckles Arrangement Album has been released at OverClocked ReMix.

Years of delays and restarts... ? A bit over the top imo.. It took over a year, maybe 1 and a half, but not years of restarts.... or did i miss something ??
I say blame it on Walan - he did the news post. :P

[kurokikaze01]

Huge props to everyone who took part on Project Chaos. These remixes are awesome. Currently hooked on Dead Batteries and Walk on Water.

[Murmeli Walan]

from: http://sonichq.mobiusforum.net/newsite/news/
After years of delays and restarts, Project Chaos: A Sonic 3 & Knuckles Arrangement Album has been released at OverClocked ReMix.

Years of delays and restarts... ? A bit over the top imo.. It took over a year, maybe 1 and a half, but not years of restarts.... or did i miss something ??
I say blame it on Walan - he did the news post. :P

Blame my flair for dramatic newswriting. :P But anyway, the word's getting out.

By the way, I'd say my three favorite tracks right now are Walk on Water, Malicious Fingers (Death Egg intro FTW!) and Knuckleduster. This is also the first time I've listened to a site project without wanting to skip a single track. It's all that good to me. :)

[Z]

hey kanjika.Are you gonna finish your credits arrangement?

It sounds good in wip form.We'd just like to hear more of it.

[José the Bronx Rican]

I don't review as a rule, but as a longtime fan of the blur, I have several thoughts.

One, of course, is that I'm sorry I missed out; I will keep an eye out for any future projects dealing in Sonic music... I'd love to be considered.

I count this as a triple album, because a whole CD's worth of extra songs, especially more than in each of the main volumes, almost defeats the purpose of the phrase "bonus tracks." :wink:

The number of tracks done in piano and in electric guitars is not an issue in itself (helluva nice display of chops in both), but from a mastering standpoint (mostly the second disc, and I'm aware of the track order closely following that of the game), similar songs sequenced together in an album could become a bit of a blur.

The guitars, however, are a standout, as well as "Knuckleduster" and GaMeBoX's programming.

Excellent project, everyone.

[GaMeBoX]

GaMeBoX's programming.


Ouch, that doesnt ring to well in my ears.... (btw, my account is now functional again..) Just to make one thing clear here, the only thing that is programmed in my songs (not including icecap4life though, thats a real oldie) are the drums... The rest is 100% hand played, including the pitchstick on the synth etc. Anyways, glad you like the sound of it :)

[José the Bronx Rican]

Also being clear, "drums" is exactly what I refer to when I say "programming." I forget I should elaborate sometimes. Feel better. :)

[GaMeBoX]

Also being clear, "drums" is exactly what I refer to when I say "programming." I forget I should elaborate sometimes. Feel better. :)

I feel good :) Educated listeners are my favorite! 8)

[Antipode]

Robotnik Radio and Three Ring Nightfall took me by surprise! Thanks to both of you for taking on such difficult source tunes and turning out great music. Also, I really like RTF's rendition of the credits. Good stuff.

Of course, Walk on Water, Knuckleduster, Malicious Fingers, and the Secluded Stronghold are also some of my very favorites. Great stuff all around.

EDIT: One thing, for the wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chaos) for Project Chaos shouldn't it display the Project Chaos artwork instead of the Sonic 3 and Knuckles logo?

[Hadyn]

I'm glad you liked my track, and good point about the wiki. I'm not sure how to change that myself but I'm sure someone here will be able to fix it up =)

[Hetcenus]

The last time I saw spire's cover art, it still had the non-final track names for Kanjika's tracks, and I don't know if hobo's version is still around. In case any of them has made a final version, I think everyone would appreciate if they posted them here.
I guess it's better to wait for that, so we don't waste time uploading an outdated version.
EDIT: I've just uploaded the logo from the front page of the website... at least it's better than the game logo...

Also, which one is the "official" one? (if not both)

[Spire]

About that cover art,
Not only have I finally returned (yeah I'm terribly sorry to everybody about the wait!! :cry: ), but I've also completed the artwork and already sent in the final version (with a completed track list) and thumbnails to Blueberry on Sunday. So it should be available any time now.

I really wish I was around during the release but that just did not work out. Still, I am to blame for not regularly checking my PMs here on the site during that time. So for that I'd like to convey my apologies to everybody!

[BLueBeRRyKiWi]

I'll be putting the cover art online in the next few hours (I still have a bunch of exams during the next few weeks).

About the "itunes fix", I haven't put those online as the pack linked here was badly reencoded (why the sudden bitrate enhancement? how?), the filenames were changed, and the tracks were actually stretched by 40-50%, at least in my VNC and iTunes (under MacOSX).
I tested the old tracks again, and they worked fine in every player I tried.

Since I haven't got much time, and re-uploading everything is somewhat painful (create an archive + album = 400 MB, to 6 mirrors - not long though), if someone hands me a proper reencode of the tracks, I'll upload them right away (after getting the approval from snappleman or another project director).

EDIT: I just saw I was credited on that wikipedia entry. If you want it right, just put "BLueBeRRy" (and I'm Pierre Capillon, by the way).

[Nineko]

proper reencodeOximoron, without the source WAV files.

[badhabit]

Love the whole album. Really, so many great songs on one album is just awesome. I think my favorites are Robotnik Radio, Walk on Water, and Dead Batteries, but Rexy's songs all stand out too.

[Hetcenus]

EDIT: I just saw I was credited on that wikipedia entry. If you want it right, just put "BLueBeRRy" (and I'm Pierre Capillon, by the way).
Done.

[richter]

206.1 MB down - 30.0 GB up
Well done guys!

[BLueBeRRyKiWi]

Hello again,

Album art is available here :
http://s3k.ocremix.org/php/artwork.php

Thanks to Spire.


Current stats over the first week after release (4 mirrors out of 7) :
HTTP transfert: 453 GB
BT transfert: 189 GB
Website only (flash+php): 49 GB (56 GB between flash teaser launch and project release)

30373 visits / 757261 hits since release.
Does not include people accessing the website trough an ISP proxy.

By country:
USA (45%), France (25%), UK (9%), Canada (5%)
1-5% : Australia, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, South Korea.
Others: 8%


These figures do not include three mirrors: KyleJCRB, AR33.com & FastFeet Media.

[housethegrate]

Holy crap, that's a lot of traffic.

[watkinzez]

France (25%)

Heh, wouldn't have expected that.

[The Joker]

alright, got the whole project, even burned a CD. Since doing so, I've found that my favorite songs are "Walk on Water" & "Robotnik Radio." Also, I enjoy "Schumacher's Bar" quite a bit! Yay!

[Rexy]

France (25%)

Heh, wouldn't have expected that.
Me neither. We don't have CarboHydroM or mv or anyone like that on the project, so what gives? :P

Either way, many of these tracks have made their way to my iPod for great listening. After many intense listens I've grown to love much of the material. Prime picks from Disk 1 have included Walk on Water, Knuckleduster and Three Ring Nightfall (holy cow Hadyn, this is a jump up from you in terms of quality O.O), and from Disk 2 I'd say Live at the Sandopolis, Breathtaking Vision and Scrambled Eggman are great to absorb. Disc 3, of course, had bonus material to cover but was worthwhile for Red Sphere, Blue Sphere and Ivory Gadget (this track, of course, being Hetcenus's audition into the Dragon Warrior project if you want to know - great to hear it was finally revealed to the public).

Man, I love you guys :D

[KyleJCrb]

Just a note that my mirror will be going down for a day or two as I make a webhost migration. I'll get it back up ASAP!

[Omatic]

I found most of the album to be near perfect - with the tracks keeping part of the original songs, while arranging them in ways very pleasing to the ear.

The only 2 tracks I wasn't a fan of were the ones for Ice Cap and Lava Reef. I don't mean any offense to the artists that arranged the tracks, but frankly I found them to be boring, and I really did become drowsy in the middle of the Ice Cap arrangement. While I can objectively see they were as well done as the other pieces, I personally can't find myself to like them.

But again, that's just my personal opinion. I want to thank each and every person who worked on the album in getting it released. You've all ensured that the frequent traveling I'll be doing will be accompanied by some excellent music. A batch of karma cookies for each of you!

[GaMeBoX]

Hey Omatic.
Why not focus on highlighting the one or two tracks you liked most instead of the two you didnt like so much. Now youre only spreading bad energy. Everybody will not always like everything anyways, we all know that allready. So in the end, this really doesnt say much about your musical taste or anything.

[Omatic]

Hey Omatic.
Why not focus on highlighting the one or two tracks you liked most instead of the two you didnt like so much. Now youre only spreading bad energy. Everybody will not always like everything anyways, we all know that allready. So in the end, this really doesnt say much about your musical taste or anything.

I was hoping I wouldn't come off as too negative, but I guess I did. I really don't mean to spread any negativity, but at the same time I guess I shouldn't only say what I didn't like, so I hope to fix that here. Thanks for checking me, Gamebox.

Anyway, to me the most memorable remixes were the Hydrocity remix, the Marble Garden remix, and the Sandopolis remix , so I'd have to say those were my favorite. They were upbeat and implemented various instruments well. I also can say that the boss music remix was a very cool turn from what I thought it might be.

As a side note, I listened to the album throughout the day on my MP3 player, so I can't recall the track names and the artists associated with each.

[Rexy]

While we're on the subject of bad energy... (http://www.vgdj.net/2006/11/on-hiatus.html)

Man, this blows. I was really looking forward to this week's podcast, the project being one of the reasons and my venture to Video Games Live in London being another. I don't know which of the project personnel caused the podcast to take a break, but you've just crushed whatever spirit I had when I woke up this morning. Thank you. :cry:

[Hadyn]

... of the three people who had a hand in the projects' direction...

KFC, Snappleman, Rexy, and myself. I might not be a mathematical genius, but isn't that four?

Zircon pm'd me yesterday whilst I was at work; sadly I haven't had a chance to check OCR until tonight, which explains my absence from any interviews. Plus, you know, I live in Australia. But yeah, that sucks about the lack of a podcast =(

Oh, and Rexy; cheers for your comment on my carnival night track. I'm glad you think I've improved =D

[Shadow Wolf]

Feel free to flame me all to hell if you're being consistently bugged about this, but have the fixed bonus tracks been uploaded yet? I tried using the originals in iTunes and they didn't work, obviously. I tried saving them again in Goldwave, and Goldwave froze on me. I downloaded the fixed files from Sendspace and edited the snapping at the beginning out with Adobe Audition, and resaved them. But they won't import into iTunes, as in, I can't even add them to the library. So have any official fixed files been put up yet?

[Rexy]

... of the three people who had a hand in the projects' direction...

KFC, Snappleman, Rexxy, and myself. I might not be a mathematical genius, but isn't that four?
It's still three - what are the odds of me flying from the UK to hang out with Pixie and Zircon? o_O I would assume by that reason that I didn't receive anything (though they could have at least been able to let me say a message through the answering machine or something).
I think with the way this is going, the project looks like it's about to lose some popularity here. I just hope that's not the case.

[Hetcenus]

The only 2 tracks I wasn't a fan of were the ones for Ice Cap and Lava Reef. I don't mean any offense to the artists that arranged the tracks, but frankly I found them to be boring, and I really did become drowsy in the middle of the Ice Cap arrangement. While I can objectively see they were as well done as the other pieces, I personally can't find myself to like them.

Coincidentally or not, I'm involved in both of them... hehe...

And before anyone says, no, I'm not offended, I respect personal opinions.

[KyleJCrb]

... of the three people who had a hand in the projects' direction...

KFC, Snappleman, Rexxy, and myself. I might not be a mathematical genius, but isn't that four?
It's still three - what are the odds of me flying from the UK to hang out with Pixie and Zircon? o_O

I thought they did all of their interviews over Skype...

[Hadyn]

Well, I'm in Australia, and they asked me to call them... Which is confusing in itself. But you know, I can't imagine why they wouldn't have asked you Rexy if they asked me. You had more to do with the actual project, I was mainly just site design and bonus tracks! Ohwell, it's too late now either way I guess.

[zircon]

No need to bring in a VGDJ-related topic into this thread, frankly, unless you're interested in causing drama. I'm not mad at anyone here, and I doubt Jill is either. If this had happened a month ago we probably would have just shrugged and figured something else out, but like we wrote in the blog/thread post, this was just the latest in a series of factors that combined to make us just want to step away for a bit and take a break.

A couple points of clarification, however; one was that I had no idea Rexy was involved with the project. When KFC/Snapple didn't show I asked Larry who else could be a potential subject for an interview, and he recommended Hadyn and no one else. I took his word for it. Additionally, our interviews ARE internet-only, so location isn't relevant... but to be honest, I didn't know Hadyn was in Australia, so that would account for the delay in response and why he wouldn't want to call a US number. That's my bad.

Getting back on topic, this project kicks major ass. Ever since I heard some wips over 6 months ago, I was looking forward to it. The majority of tracks are at OCR quality and even those that aren't are enjoyable. Props to everyone involved.

[Xenon Odyssey]

Feel free to flame me all to hell if you're being consistently bugged about this, but have the fixed bonus tracks been uploaded yet? I tried using the originals in iTunes and they didn't work, obviously. I tried saving them again in Goldwave, and Goldwave froze on me. I downloaded the fixed files from Sendspace and edited the snapping at the beginning out with Adobe Audition, and resaved them. But they won't import into iTunes, as in, I can't even add them to the library. So have any official fixed files been put up yet?

Official? No. But they worked for me and are now on my iTunes, so they should work. (http://www.sendspace.com/file/6lf2t3)

unless you're interested in causing drama.

Aren't you forgetting that this is Project Chaos, the site project to cause the biggest drama yet?

[Derk_wtf]

I just want to say that "Malicious Fingers" is a track that I've been dreaming of hearing for so long now. The original is without a doubt my favorite boss theme from Sonic and this tune really really blows me away.

[Hadyn]

Zircon; I'm glad you liked the project at least.

I'm still a bit annoyed that you make me out to be a stuck-up bastard on VJDJ ("one of them didn't even bother to respond to our request for an interview"), especially considering I would have helped if I'd known about your request in time, but I'll get over it.

As for the whole 'no drama' thing, I hate to sound like a little kid but you started it! Well, maybe Snapps and KFC did, I have no idea, but I'm innocent!

Anyway, that's all for now. Adios!

[zircon]

Zircon; I'm glad you liked the project at least.

I'm still a bit annoyed that you make me out to be a stuck-up bastard on VJDJ ("one of them didn't even bother to respond to our request for an interview"), especially considering I would have helped if I'd known about your request in time, but I'll get over it.

As for the whole 'no drama' thing, I hate to sound like a little kid but you started it! Well, maybe Snapps and KFC did, I have no idea, but I'm innocent!

Anyway, that's all for now. Adios!

Yeah, it's our bad that we mischaracterized you due to the lack of response. Anyway, I'm aware "we started it" in the sense that we made a post about it, but we did so in our own thread. There's very little point in bringing said post (and subsequent arguments) to ANOTHER thread, which I definitely didn't do. ;)

[Jillian Aversa]

Zircon; I'm glad you liked the project at least.

I'm still a bit annoyed that you make me out to be a stuck-up bastard on VJDJ ("one of them didn't even bother to respond to our request for an interview"), especially considering I would have helped if I'd known about your request in time, but I'll get over it.

As for the whole 'no drama' thing, I hate to sound like a little kid but you started it! Well, maybe Snapps and KFC did, I have no idea, but I'm innocent!

Anyway, that's all for now. Adios!

Yeah, it's our bad that we mischaracterized you due to the lack of response. Anyway, I'm aware "we started it" in the sense that we made a post about it, but we did so in our own thread. There's very little point in bringing said post (and subsequent arguments) to ANOTHER thread, which I definitely didn't do. ;)
It also wasn't "on" VGDJ... The only people that would have read that are those who follow our website or our thread, and they don't know who you are. In any case, we didn't realize you had no computer access. Normally, one would assume that three days would be enough time to check one's email.

Rexy, I wouldn't worry about this project's publicity. I mean, true there would have been at least 1,000 more people hearing about it through our show, but this is Sonic...on the internet. I'm sure if you guys go posting links at various Sonic fan sites, you'll draw some attention. ^_~

[Rexy]

Haha, point taken :) I call dibs on Sonicstyle!

So far I put up a link in one of my Deviantart journals (http://rexrock69.deviantart.com/journal/10784298/) (not many people read it and the one person who did comment didn't understand what the hell was going on o_O) and went on some Sonic boards and clarifying some things for some listeners wondering whether the teaser site or the actual PHP page is the actual project. Word seems to be steadily coming out at least.

[Hadyn]

Normally, one would assume that three days would be enough time to check one's email.

Everything's sorted and cool now, but your math still confuses me... the PM was sent Wednesday at 9:30am, and Rexy posted about your news post the day after at 5:30pm.

Either time goes twice as fast in America than in Australia, or something's not quite right here.

Also, it wasn't my email, it was an OCR pm. I'm not *that* slack - I check emails a few times a day, whereas OCR normally only gets checked in evenings when I have some free time. Sadly on that one evening on Wednesday I was too busy to check.

I probably don't need to be so defensive, but you still sound like you're a bit annoyed and I'm really not sure what I could have done differently. So yeah. Sorry!

[KyleJCrb]

Hell, I'll do an interview.

"So Kyle, what'd you do for this project?"
"I listened to it. It ruled."

[The Joker]

Gheyest interview evar!

[Rexy]

Hell, I'll do an interview.

"So Kyle, what'd you do for this project?"
"I listened to it. It ruled."

:lol:

As awesome as that was, you just wait til Summoning of Spirits comes out. KFC might say the same thing. :P

[housethegrate]

You can interview me. I'll get hella drunk beforehand.

:lol:

[Ritchstorm]

Hello all! Really well done on this project it really is awesome! I have been waiting for this for a long time and I have really enjoyed listening to the whole thing about 20 times now! Hehe! However I read earlier in the thread people are having problem with some of the tagging of tracks. Does anybody have a version of Knuckleduster that works on WPA? This is the only track i have yet to hear and I really want to! Many thanks in advance.

[sonic_fan69]

I am at awe. This is way better than I expected. I was quite impressed with the Sonic 2 Hedgehog Heaven project, but this has left me speachless.

[The Joker]

You could d/l the mp3 of "Knuckleduster" that got posted on OCR. Here's the linkage:
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01526/

It what I did.

[Ritchstorm]

You could d/l the mp3 of "Knuckleduster" that got posted on OCR. Here's the linkage:
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01526/

It what I did.

Thanks dude! It works fine now :o

[Hock]

Hey Gamebox, any luck uploading that WIP of Frozen Lavareef? :D

[Azumanga]

Just wanted to add a "me too" to asking for the tracks to be fixed. I had a quick try, and it doesn't seem possible to me given the broken mp3s which are available.. is there any way anyone could get some original tracks? I'd be happy to do it myself, but seeing as no-one knows me around here I wouldn't expect to be given access to the raw tracks.

[GaMeBoX]

Hey Gamebox, any luck uploading that WIP of Frozen Lavareef? :D

I will get to it in a very near future, check your pm's sometime tomorrow :)

Btw, aint it a bit slow on the feedback people ??

[GaMeBoX]

Heres that link for anyone interested:
http://www.liquiddog.net/GaMeBoX_-_Frozen_LavaReef(Sonic_&_Knuckles).mp3
be sure to copy/paste or you can miss part of the link :)

[Nineko]

Heres that link for anyone interested:
http://www.liquiddog.net/GaMeBoX_-_Frozen_LavaReef(Sonic_&_Knuckles).mp3
be sure to copy/paste or you can miss part of the link :)To fix the link: look here (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2602276#2602276)

Hello. (http://www.liquiddog.net/GaMeBoX_-_Frozen_LavaReef%28Sonic_%26_Knuckles%29.mp3)

[Jillian Aversa]

Normally, one would assume that three days would be enough time to check one's email.

Everything's sorted and cool now, but your math still confuses me... the PM was sent Wednesday at 9:30am, and Rexy posted about your news post the day after at 5:30pm.

Either time goes twice as fast in America than in Australia, or something's not quite right here.

Also, it wasn't my email, it was an OCR pm. I'm not *that* slack - I check emails a few times a day, whereas OCR normally only gets checked in evenings when I have some free time. Sadly on that one evening on Wednesday I was too busy to check.

I probably don't need to be so defensive, but you still sound like you're a bit annoyed and I'm really not sure what I could have done differently. So yeah. Sorry!
zircon PM'ed AND emailed you at least three days before the interview. I have no idea why you wouldn't have received them on time... Oh well.

[Hadyn]

That's odd, I've never had problems with my email before and I'm 100% certain that there's nothing in my inbox - or even junkbox - from you guys. and yeah, like I said the PM's stamped as only being a day or so before the interview~

If he still has a copy of the original email could you get him to send it through to me again with the same content/same title, just to see if I get it or if it disappears again?

[Silverevilchao]

Great as heck project. This made me go and play Sonic 3 and Knuckles all over again. xD Favorites include Three Ring Nightfall, Dead Batteries, Red Sphere Blue Sphere, The Secluded Stronghold, Breathtaking Vision, Heads up for Tails, Malicious Fingers, and Water on the Dancefloor (especially!).

Also, any idea if/when you'll be putting up:

Nautic Lava 2 by Ross Kmet
(labeled on the flash site as) Unseenbeta 2 (listed as demo on flash site) by Krispy + Joker
Unseen Wonders by Sir Nuts
Sand Caf(?) (WIP) by Darkesword
Run for Your Life, Knuckles (listed as Demo on flash site) by Sir Nuts

(and I'm fine with having 3 or 4 different renditions of Lava Reef on my computer! xD)

These totally awesome tracks are on the Project Chaos flash site. Any idea if you'll be able to put them up for download or not? xD

[-RK-]

Yeah, I'm totally speaking for Hadyn when saying this, and could be wrong, but I think they'll be avaliable eventually for download off the site. They just wanted to focus on main project tunes first I believe.

[Hadyn]

Yeop, that sounds about right =)

I can't give an exact date; I've been very busy lately and I'd need to have BLue's help, but they should hopefully still be going up sometime in the not-too-distant future. Probably.

[Silverevilchao]

Thank you very much. I'll be looking forward to them. :D

[DarkeSword]

Yeah, I'm totally speaking for Hadyn when saying this, and could be wrong, but I think they'll be avaliable eventually for download off the site. They just wanted to focus on main project tunes first I believe.

I will not authorize Sand Café to be available for download.

[OmegaDonut]

Do you plan on releasing it yourself as a finished track?

[DarkeSword]

Do you plan on releasing it yourself as a finished track?

Only if I finish it.

[Hadyn]

Yeah, I'm totally speaking for Hadyn when saying this, and could be wrong, but I think they'll be avaliable eventually for download off the site. They just wanted to focus on main project tunes first I believe.

I will not authorize Sand Café to be available for download.

Any reason for that? I mean, people have heard it on the teaser site, might as well let them have a higher quality version, eh?

[SnappleMan]

I'm changing my name to Jack Meoff.

[JTD121]

Hey all,

Maybe a little late, but I want to say just how awesome this project is! Not all of it is to my liking, but I do like what has been done to the tracks. Especially Ice Cap. Not something I am used to (given it's fast nature), but awesome nonetheless!

I am seeding on the torrent right now, and siting at 23.524 share ratio, so keep downloadin'!

Also, DarkeSword, do you plan on finishing Sand Cafe? And any other tracks up and coming? How many tracks do you think you will allow to be in this one project? I mean, aside from the three discs worth already out there?

Keep up the good, awesome work everyone! :)

-Josh

[DarkeSword]

Yeah, I'm totally speaking for Hadyn when saying this, and could be wrong, but I think they'll be avaliable eventually for download off the site. They just wanted to focus on main project tunes first I believe.

I will not authorize Sand Café to be available for download.

Any reason for that? I mean, people have heard it on the teaser site, might as well let them have a higher quality version, eh?

It isn't finished, and I don't really plan on finishing it any time soon.

[superKirk]

This has been the best Remix project yet. Finally there's some variety of genres and the arrangements are top notch. I hope the next project turns out as well as this one...

Maybe even go back and do Sonic 2 over again :D

[Hetcenus]

[...]Ice Cap. Not something I am used to (given it's fast nature)[..]
That was the idea at the first place...

[Dr.d]

Really awesome job on the songs. I was shocked when a new Sonic project was released. I went to immediate download mode and got it the weekend I came back from college.

[superKirk]

Future remix projects need more solo piano and rock/metal arrangements.

[KyleJCrb]

Future remix projects need more solo piano and rock/metal arrangements.

Your wish will be our command. ;)

[SnappleMan]

BWAHAHA!

That all depends on if I give you a song or not, fagface!

[KyleJCrb]

BWAHAHA!

That all depends on if I give you a song or not, fagface!

You're including piano? :lol:

[SnappleMan]

I can do piano.... very well.

Metal is much more fun and challenging though. :)

[Hadyn]

I think there's a public opinion that, because some tracks are listed as WIP's, the project's not actually finished yet.

Does anyone else get that sort of feeling?

[housethegrate]

It would be more accurate to call them Demos. Calling it a WIP implies that it's not finished, but eventually will be. I can't speak for the public opinions, because I don't think on it that much. But I can see how someone might get that impression.

[Xenon Odyssey]

well, I finished mine, and submitted it. if it doesn't pass then I'll try to find some hosting for it so people can download it, cuz i'm not doing another version of it; i'm sick of it