Nintendo Wii

[Mr.Roboto]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/No_More_Heroes.jpg

January 22nd.

[BardicKnowledge]

^^ March 9th, according to the website.

edit: Rats -- I stand defeated, Atma.

[The Pezman]

This is why I'll get the Wii aftterwards.

[Morrack]

...That sucks.

Oh, and even better, as stated on Wikipedia:

"Similarly a representative on behalf of Nintendo of Europe on December 6, 2007 confirmed with the media that the game will not be released until after June 2008. However, a day later, a spokesman refuted these claims insisting that there is currently no solid release date for Europe as of yet."

...Bastards.

[atmuh]

i was wondering why the jap version hadnt leaked online yet
NOW I KNOW
hopefully it does soon then we can get full info about it!

[Blake]

They are adding big bird and hamburgler.

hahahahahaha

[megadave]

:<:< It could happen. Maybe DL content.

Edit: This just in. Brawl is actually being delayed to March 2009. Sakurai made this decision in order to include Mega Man, MMX, Zero, Bass, the entire cast of Outlaw Star (including Ashea Clan Clan from the Ctarl Ctral empire and alt costumes from episode 23), Wolverine (Edward Scissorhands alt costume), Willow, King Vitamin, Yoda, Darth Vader, Darth Maul, Jimi Hendrix, Ron Paul, Beowulf, Grendel, Rambo, and the drummer from 311.

Friend codes are also going to be eliminated and replaced with Nintendo universal gaming tags, thanks to an agreement with Microsoft, who are also going to share ownership of Rare. Additional DL characters, stages, and other content will be released on a bi-weekly basis for the next 7 years. This content can be stored on the Wii's new 20 gig hard drive attachment, which will be shipped with Wii consoles from now on and will also be free to early owners via online order form.

To make up for the year delay of Smash Brothers Brawl, Nintendo will be releasing the new Kid Icarus and Wii Sex instead.

In other news, controversial lawyer Jack Thompson has had a change of heart and stopped being an asshole. Thompson commented to CNN "I can't believe I was blaming video games for all of the world's problems. Maybe I should spend money educating parents to make wise choices on what content their children should view instead of be a complete dick for no valid reason."

[Airwalker]

The Japanese version was only delayed by a week. Weak! They'll still get Brawl by the end of this month. Whereas the US is behind by about a month. (Sorry Euro people, you have my condolences.)

[Bigfoot]

lol someone I know took screenshots of Sakurai's wikipedia page from people editing it.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4895/sakuraiun8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1483/sakurai2oq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Neo Samus]

Damn. Oh well. Maybe I'll get Forever Ocean then. The game is intriguing to me. Plus for $30 you can't beat the price.

[dsx100]

These Smash Bros. delays honestly wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for promised release dates. First launch, then Dec. 3, then Feb. 9, and finally (at least I hope so) Mar. 9. They should just take the Blizzard appoarch and say "When its Done".

[atmuh]

First launch

no .

[atmuh]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/No_More_Heroes.jpg

January 22nd.

that game sucks

Japan still releases on the 31st of January...It's pretty damn tempting. Are you still planning on getting JPN version, Atma?

your wii is region encoded you cant get it
sucks for you

[nookster]

Please, sakurai, delay the european Smash bros all you want. I have to graduate in june. Give me Smash Bros in July, i'll have the best possible smash experience :D

[dsx100]

no .

If I remeber correctly, Iwata promised an on-line enabled Smash Bros. at launch when they first revealed the Wii (then named Revolution) at E3 2005.

[Critical Hit]

your wii is region encoded you cant get it
sucks for you

D =

Well on further reflection, March 9th IS right at the start of my university's "spring break," so I guess I can have a whole week of uninterrupted Brawl right when it comes out...that's not so bad I guess.........









neither would a Dec 3rd release tho...

[Brim]

Thread + SSBB
aneurysm

[MechaFone]

:<:< It could happen. Maybe DL content.

Edit: This just in. Brawl is actually being delayed to March 2009. Sakurai made this decision in order to include Mega Man, MMX, Zero, Bass, the entire cast of Outlaw Star (including Ashea Clan Clan from the Ctarl Ctral empire and alt costumes from episode 23), Wolverine (Edward Scissorhands alt costume), Willow, King Vitamin, Yoda, Darth Vader, Darth Maul, Jimi Hendrix, Ron Paul, Beowulf, Grendel, Rambo, and the drummer from 311.

Friend codes are also going to be eliminated and replaced with Nintendo universal gaming tags, thanks to an agreement with Microsoft, who are also going to share ownership of Rare. Additional DL characters, stages, and other content will be released on a bi-weekly basis for the next 7 years. This content can be stored on the Wii's new 20 gig hard drive attachment, which will be shipped with Wii consoles from now on and will also be free to early owners via online order form.

To make up for the year delay of Smash Brothers Brawl, Nintendo will be releasing the new Kid Icarus and Wii Sex instead.

In other news, controversial lawyer Jack Thompson has had a change of heart and stopped being an asshole. Thompson commented to CNN "I can't believe I was blaming video games for all of the world's problems. Maybe I should spend money educating parents to make wise choices on what content their children should view instead of be a complete dick for no valid reason."

...now that made me smile.

[Arek the Absolute]

merge this with the wii thread :/

[FR]

At least I have more time buy a Wii now.:|

[Skrypnyk]

merge this with a pwn or lol thread =>

[anthonium]

Eh it doesn't surprise me. I've been expecting this for the last two weeks but it is still disappointing to hear. I even made my sig just for the feb 10 release. *sniff*

On a side note, nice sig Frustration Raptor.

[dsx100]

What I said in the Wii Thread.

These Smash Bros. delays honestly wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for promised release dates. First launch, then Dec. 3, then Feb. 9, and finally (at least I hope so) Mar. 9. They should just take the Blizzard appoarch and say "When its Done".

[Linkjing Donuts]

sheik update made me almost unsad from the delay

[Arek the Absolute]

thats nice

merge this with the wii thread

[Imagist]

sheik update made me almost unsad from the delay

I'm pretty sure that was Sakurai's intention.

[atmuh]

yeah we dont need another faggot ranting update thread thats only about mega man
some lock this poor sap

[I-n-j-i-n]

Wow. Just when you thought it wasn't going to be delayed again, it does. That is at least five major delays right now, in the midst of a lot of smaller, vague ones.

If they're going to improve the game constantly like this, why not delay until November?

[TDKenyon]

Am I alone in not really minding a delay? I hate to feed this thread, but I have to ask: what's the big deal? Would you fangirls really prefer the game to come out too soon and be filled with bugs or, God help us, an unbalanced game? Surely such an important game is worth the wait to make it as good as it can be?

IMO, this is one thing I love about Nintendo as a company. They are willing to push back release dates and/or take their time and create high-quality, bug-free (for the most part) games, rather than pump out game after game to get consumers to spend a lot of money.

[Ray Falling]

"Oh btw, we're gonna delay the game again BUT ZOMG LOOK WE GIVE YOU SHEIK!!!"

*puts on the Ring and vanishes into thin air*

[Bleck]

Would you fangirls really prefer the game to come out too soon and be filled with bugs or, God help us, an unbalanced game?

Uh the fact that it is still coming out in Japan in about a week would dictate that it's pretty much finished and is probably delayed because nobody has bothered to work very hard on the translation

[Critical Hit]

"Oh btw, we're gonna delay the game again BUT ZOMG LOOK WE GIVE YOU SHEIK!!!"

*puts on the Ring and vanishes into thin air*

Fine by me ^_^

[Arek the Absolute]

Am I alone in not really minding a delay? I hate to feed this thread, but I have to ask: what's the big deal? Would you fangirls really prefer the game to come out too soon and be filled with bugs or, God help us, an unbalanced game? Surely such an important game is worth the wait to make it as good as it can be?

IMO, this is one thing I love about Nintendo as a company. They are willing to push back release dates and/or take their time and create high-quality, bug-free (for the most part) games, rather than pump out game after game to get consumers to spend a lot of money.

watch it slick
dont want to be insulting the wrong crew, cause a lot of us non gamefaqs members are also down about the delay


merge this with the wii thread please

[KyleJCrb]

More time to save up for it. I'm so poor...

[Rambo]

its as though Sakurai knows that the smash bros thread has been closed, and he will now continue to give us very good updates. Also, the shocked and disgusted look on links face as he examines sheiks crotch is proof that sheik is male.
I got the wii recharge station with battery packs a few weeks ago and it seems to be a pretty worth while investment. They're very convenient and so far effective. They don't even require a power outlet, and plug right into the wii's USB port.

[Scufo]

Well tits. Looks like Nintendo's taking a page out of Valve's book or something. This game better be fucking awesome.

And yeah merging with the Wii thread would be good I guess because otherwise you might as well just unlock the brawl thread.

[Fenrir]

Fuck yeah Shieking!

[Neo Samus]

And people thought that Sheik was gone. This makes me more confidnet that Ness, Jigglypuff, Falcon and Luigi are still in.

[Airwalker]

I got the wii recharge station with battery packs a few weeks ago and it seems to be a pretty worth while investment. They're very convenient and so far effective. They don't even require a power outlet, and plug right into the wii's USB port.

I thought about getting one of those, but I don't think it will work with the nifty sleeves I got for free from Nintendo. My number one rule is you shouldn't clash with free.

[Schwaltzvald]

Here's something I'm super-pissed about and its not even about SSBB...

http://www.tv.com/story/10705.html

In short, Oprah's gonna git Discovery Health killed off...

One of the few channels I'd ever watch on TV is now relegated to this garbage... Business-wise, it's a smart move considering her huge fan-base.

academically (for the few sections that are actually academic)... It's a travesty... >:(

[linkspast]

Just get rechargeable batteries, the kind you can use in anything...

[Dhsu]

Fuck yeah Shieking!
Haha, word.

[Bigfoot]

Tuu Tuu Tuu Tuu

[HalcyonSpirit]

Fuck yeah Shieking!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x208/GAJK/Misc/Shieking.png

???

[FR]

Nintendo unveils first-half game lineup for Wii...

Link to original article:http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/view.php?id=3599

And if you don't feel like reading:
Wii

Jan. 7: Kidz Sports Ice Hockey from Destineer
Jan. 8: Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law from Capcom
Jan. 15: SAMURAI WARRIORS: KATANA from KOE
Jan. 15: Furu Furu Park from Majesco Entertainment
Jan. 21: Endless Ocean" from Nintendo
Jan. 22: One Piece": Unlimited Adventure" from Namco
Jan. 29: Bomberman Land from Hudson
January: No More Heroes" from Ubisoft
January: CSI: Crime Scene Investigation": Hard Evidence from Ubisoft
Feb. 8: Kawasaki Jet Ski from Destineer
Feb. 11: Go Diego Go!: Safari Rescue from 2K Play
Feb. 12: WWII Aces from Destineer
Feb. 12: Dream Pinball 3D from SouthPeak Games
Feb. 18: MX vs. ATV Untamed from THQ
Feb. 25: Agatha Christie And Then There Were None from DreamCatcher Games
Feb. 26: Baroque from Atlus USA
Feb. 26: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors from Square Enix
Feb. 27: Kidz Sports Soccer from Destineer
Feb. 27: London Taxi: Rush Hour from Destineer
February: Garfield® Gets Real from DSI Games
February: Yamaha Supercross from DSI Games
February: Karaoke Revolution Presents: American Idol Encore from Konami
February: Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30" from Ubisoft
February: BALLOON POP from UFO INTERACTIVE GAMES
March 3: Destroy All Humans: Big Willy Unleashed from THQ
March 9: Super Smash Bros.® Brawl from Nintendo
March 10: Worms: A Space Oddity from THQ
March 25: Okami from Capcom
March 25: OPOONA from KOEI CORPORATION
March: MiniCopter: Adventure Flight from Aksys Games
March: Alone in the Dark from Atari
March: Ninja Reflex from Electronic Arts
March: Obscure: The Aftermath from Ignition Entertainment
March: Target: Terror from Konami
March: Nitro Bike" from Ubisoft
March: Emergency Heroes" from Ubisoft
March: HEAVENLY GUARDIAN from UFO INTERACTIVE GAMES
March: Rebel Raiders from XS Games
April 15: Castle of Shikigami III from Aksys Games
April: Pro Evolution Soccer from Konami
April: Wild Earth: African Safari from Majesco Entertainment
April: THE MONKEY KING-THE LEGEND BEGINS from UFO INTERACTIVE GAMES
April: Super Pick Ups from XS Games
May 6: Speed Racer from Warner Bros. Games
May 13: The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian from Disney Interactive Studios
May: BlastWorks: Build, Trade, Destroy from Majesco Entertainment
May: King of Fighters: The Orochi Saga from SNK Playmore
May: THE DOG Island" from Ubisoft
June 8: Wonderworld Amusement Park from Majesco Entertainment
June: Catch of the Day from Electronic Arts
June: Ford Racing Off Road from Empire Interactive
June: Cooking Mama Cook Off 2 from Majesco Entertainment
June: Rygar: The Battle of Argus from Tecmo, Inc.
June: DeBlob from THQ
June: Wall-E from THQ
Spring: Mario Kart Wii with Wii Wheel from Nintendo
Spring: Major League Baseball® 2K8 from 2K Sports
Spring: Don King Presents: Prizefighter from 2K Sports
Spring: Top Spin 3 from 2K Sports
Spring: Kung Fu Panda from Activision
Spring: LEGO: Indiana Jones from LucasArts
Summer: Deca Sports from Hudson
Summer: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed from LucasArts
Summer: Active Life": Outdoor Challenge" from Namco Bandai
Q2: Wii Fit from Nintendo

[Critical Hit]

Are those sleeves really that good? I never ordered them myself...at any rate, that's good news about the charge station, I've been thinking about putting down for one for a while now. I'm assuming we're taking about the same thing. (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802574)

Edit: Oh, and I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T postpone MarioKart Wii to xmas season 08...

[Thalzon]

Man, could Okami have picked a worse time to be released? It's gonna get the shaft again because everyone will be too busy with smash bros.

[Bahamut]

Wow...that's a lot of shitty games. I'd definitely buy Top Spin 3 though.

[Thalzon]

More than enough good ones for me. I see at least 5 games I'd like to buy on that list, and for once they're not ALL from Nintendo.

[Zup]

Does anyone have any information on Baroque? I love Atlus and the games they bring statewide (Riviera? Cubivore? Trauma Center? I love Atlus!) so I'd like to see if Baroque is a worthwhile investment.

Oh, and I just preordered Endless Ocean.

[Kenobio]

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned (in this or any other thread), but it seems that Famitsu gave a perfect score (http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/01/16/super-smash-bros-brawl-is-perfect/) to SSB Brawl. I know a lot of you could care less about Famitsu's scores, but getting a perfect score is pretty noteworthy.

[FR]

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned (in this or any other thread), but it seems that Famitsu gave a perfect score (http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/01/16/super-smash-bros-brawl-is-perfect/) to SSB Brawl. I know a lot of you could care less about Famitsu's scores, but getting a perfect score is pretty noteworthy.

Good scores are probably 80% bought nowadays, so no I not impressed.

[Bahamut]

Good scores are probably 80% bought nowadays, so no I not impressed.

What? As far as I'm aware, most of the industry does not function that way, as much as companies want otherwise.

[FR]

What? As far as I'm aware, most of the industry does not function that way, as much as companies want otherwise.

Most of my statement was trying to be sarcastic but sometimes I get the feeling that some reviews were bought/influenced to bump up the score a bit.

[Linkjing Donuts]

anyone here live in germany? i hear they have a channel called GIGA with a show called Wii Motion and that my music video was featured on it, and i would like to know more about this show

[friendlyHunter]

Not sure if this was mentioned here yet, but the Dojo now has EVERY special move listed on the character pages. Those sneaky goons, updating the Dojo behind our backs!

Hmm, from all the Demo footage, combined with the Japanese TV commercials and Dojo screenshots, it looks like we already knew what all the moves were after all!
Well, except for maybe the Pokemon Trainer's unannounced moves, but those were pretty easy to guess....
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pokemon_trainer.html
Oh wait, Wario's up-special "Corkscrew" is news to me. I wonder what it could be...?

[I-n-j-i-n]

What? As far as I'm aware, most of the industry does not function that way, as much as companies want otherwise.

I agree, though trusting businesses in Japan is always somewhat iffy because of the constant Yakuza presence in entertainment mediums (not sure about gaming media) and all sorts of weird corruptive practices.

I think Famitsu is decently honest, then again, they rated some games way too highly even when I thought they were great. Wind Waker never, ever deserved a perfect score. And of course, the laughable perfect for Nintendogs, a yet another game I liked, but perfect?

I do think SSBB probably deserves it though, but I'm just iffy about Famitsu's scale of a 'perfect' game when I think at least a few dozen more should be in that pantheon if they're willing to go that far with perfect scores. Somewhat like how EGM rates games.

[Kenobio]

Most of my statement was trying to be sarcastic but sometimes I get the feeling that some reviews were bought/influenced to bump up the score a bit.

I understand your feelings, but Famitsu is generally pretty darn reputable. I agree that some of their ratings were way off on specific occasions (such as the instances i-n-j-i-n mentioned), but for the most part they tend to ballpark very it well.

[FR]

If it's true I don't know what to say other then that sucks...Original article here (http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=157168)

[Critical Hit]

So has anyone picked up Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles? Many of the initial reviews at E3 or E for All or whatever didn't come out too shining, but it's been a while since then, and supposedly it's selling well. Is it worth the $50, or is it better off as a rent?

[Hector]

Most games feel like it would have been better to rent them a week after you have finished them. Then a year later you know whether or not they were actually worth a purchase.

[SirChadlyOC]

If it's true I don't know what to say other then that sucks...Original article here (http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=157168)

For those who want a quick summary, the article is a quote from Goichi Suda, known for the upcoming game, "No More Heroes," who says that third-party Wii games aren't selling.

My take on this is, "Well, DUUHH!!" Take a look at the majority of third-party games on the Wii right now, and most of them are horrible. Granted, there are some exceptions to the rule, but even the best third-party games are remakes or ports of previous installments. The worst part about so many of these third-party games is that the previews seemed awesome at the time, but playing them was a different story, such as Red Steel, all of the racing games so far, and most of the shooters, such as Call of Duty 3 and Far Cry. So until the Q&A departments of these third parties start raising the bar, the games will continue to get crappy reviews, and the games won't sell.

[WesPip]

For those who want a quick summary, the article is a quote from Goichi Suda, known for the upcoming game, "No More Heroes," who says that third-party Wii games aren't selling.

My take on this is, "Well, DUUHH!!" Take a look at the majority of third-party games on the Wii right now, and most of them are horrible. Granted, there are some exceptions to the rule, but even the best third-party games are remakes or ports of previous installments. The worst part about so many of these third-party games is that the previews seemed awesome at the time, but playing them was a different story, such as Red Steel, all of the racing games so far, and most of the shooters, such as Call of Duty 3 and Far Cry. So until the Q&A departments of these third parties start raising the bar, the games will continue to get crappy reviews, and the games won't sell.
<3 Suda 51

[MechaFone]

What's this? RPG elements for the Subspace Emissary? Stickers? Well...interesting.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Not much of an RPG element as it is a stipulation. I like the system in which you can actually LOSE something instead of only gaining. I thought the award system was always unbalanced in SSBM that way.

So has anyone picked up Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles? Many of the initial reviews at E3 or E for All or whatever didn't come out too shining, but it's been a while since then, and supposedly it's selling well. Is it worth the $50, or is it better off as a rent?

If the insanely well featured and polished Call of Duty 4 for the 360 costs $50, you'd have to be a lunatic to buy Umbrella Chronicles for the same. I mean, Umbrella Chronicles is decent, but once you're done, you probably won't play it many times again. It's totally a rental. A good rental, but I'd imagine it'd be a horrible investment to buy it.

[iskyoork]

So has anyone picked up Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles? Many of the initial reviews at E3 or E for All or whatever didn't come out too shining, but it's been a while since then, and supposedly it's selling well. Is it worth the $50, or is it better off as a rent?

As the above poster wrote, if your not a die hard resident evil fan, rent, because you can beat it in a day. Its fun while it last but it really is short. It is deffinetly worth playing though, especially if you like the old light gun arcade games.

[Pallad]

Not much of an RPG element as it is a stipulation. I like the system in which you can actually LOSE something instead of only gaining. I thought the award system was always unbalanced in SSBM that way.



If the insanely well featured and polished Call of Duty 4 for the 360 costs $50, you'd have to be a lunatic to buy Umbrella Chronicles for the same. I mean, Umbrella Chronicles is decent, but once you're done, you probably won't play it many times again. It's totally a rental. A good rental, but I'd imagine it'd be a horrible investment to buy it.

I found it makes for a good purchase as a fun drinking/party game once you've unlocked the unlimited ammo on the secondary guns, but generally, it's true that only a diehard lightgun/RE gamer will want to pick this title up.

[Critical Hit]

Cool, thanks for all of the info guys.

[FR]

2007's NPD games sales reports: Original article here (http://http://www.gamerevolution.com/manifesto/view.php?id=432)


Nintendo DS and Wii Finish as the No. 1 and No. 2 Best-Selling U.S. Systems

REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Nintendo DS(TM) and Wii(TM) finished strong in 2007, commanding sales in the holiday shopping period and finishing the year as the two best-selling video game systems in the United States, according to new data just released by the independent NPD Group. Nintendo DS was the top-selling U.S. system of 2007, with nearly 8.5 million sold, including more than 4 million in November and December alone. Wii placed second, with nearly 6.3 million sold through the year, more than 2.3 million of which sold in the final two months.
-- Nintendo accounted for 52 percent of all video game hardware systemssold in 2007 -- more than all other manufacturers combined.
-- Since their respective launches, Nintendo has sold more than17.6 million Nintendo DS systems and nearly 7.4 million Wii systems inthe United States alone.
-- Half of the top 30 best-selling games of 2007 were made for Nintendo systems
-- Nintendo continues to dominate the hand-held market: Of the top 30 best-selling portable games sold in 2007, 25 were made for Nintendo DS and another two were made for Game Boy(R) Advance.
-- Sales of Nintendo DS systems grew 60 percent over those from 2006.
-- In 2007, the video game industry grew by 43 percent over 2006. Nintendo is responsible for 60 percent of that growth.

[Bigfoot]

Lucario, Ness, and Jigglypuff confirmed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuGSKXA20w

Why Lucario though?

[Linkjing Donuts]

Lucario, Ness, and Jigglypuff confirmed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuGSKXA20w

Why Lucario though?

edit: oh wait, i see it. its on the screenshot without the zoom. you can see ness's hat's bill

[friendlyHunter]

The first screenshot has Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario (probably?) and Jigglypuff in a row. The second shot has Ness, and what looks like Peach.

Anyways, this is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-CZ1GFbUv4&feature=related

[Critical Hit]

Lucario, Ness, and Jigglypuff confirmed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuGSKXA20w

Why Lucario though?


This made my birfday! Thanks.

[Wipomatic]

The first screenshot has Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario (probably?) and Jigglypuff in a row. The second shot has Ness, and what looks like Peach.

Anyways, this is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-CZ1GFbUv4&feature=related

Oh god I want that to happen so much

[atmuh]

yeeeeeeeeessssss jiggs is baaaaaaack
my main aint changin

[Neo Samus]

I knew they couldn't get rid of Jigglypuff and Ness!

[BeleagueredandBeset]

This is fantastic.

So now we pretty much know for sure that all the original smashers will be included. And Lucario! :)!!

[Thalzon]

Nintendo was bound to goof sooner or later!

[Effector]

The first screenshot has Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario (probably?) and Jigglypuff in a row. The second shot has Ness, and what looks like Peach.

Anyways, this is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-CZ1GFbUv4&feature=related

I'm guessing that it's Ness and Lucas (since a lot of stickers are franchise-sensitive). For example, the first shot looks like Trainer, Lucario, Jiggs, and Pikachu (although it looks a lot like Pichu to me), all from Pokemon, obviously, with a Groudon sticker selected. I'm saying that since the other shot has a Mother character sticker, it makes sense for it to be Ness and Lucas. Kind of like here (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/images/modea12/modea12_080118e-l.jpg), where a Kirby game sticker can be put on Kirby, Dedede, or Metaknight.

[supremespleen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-CZ1GFbUv4&feature=relatedThat would be hilariously awesome.

[Red Shadow]

yeeeeeeeeessssss jiggs is baaaaaaack
my main aint changin
nor mine :]

though i might main lucas and ness both

[Scufo]

I don't think we can be sure of Lucario. It's really blurred, and there's not much in the way of distinctive features for him. Jigglypuff is definite, and I can definitely see Ness in the unzoomed screenshot. It's possible it could be Pokemon Trainer, though. The second figure in the zoomed one looks like Lucas to me.

Also that's Zelda's FS? Really? Cause that won't hit anyone ever.

[Kureejii Lea]

As I'd said in the Smash thread months ago, I'd heard from what seemed like a fairly reliable source that Lucario was gonna be playable, so I'm pretty much convinced here. That same source at the time had also said that Marth would be returning, which seemed more dubious 'cause it'd mean two FE guys of similar builds with blue hair, blue capes and swords, but seeing how it looks like Ness is back despite Lucas' presence... I dunno.

[SoloGamer]

As I'd said in the Smash thread months ago, I'd heard from what seemed like a fairly reliable source that Lucario was gonna be playable, so I'm pretty much convinced here.

Yeah, Nintendo slipped and showed Lucario, Jigglypuff, and Ness' icons on an updated Japanese trailer (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pfb2l-iYlRo) (which has since been updated yet again (http://wii.com/jp/movies/smashbros-movie1/) to remove the icons).


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3259/iup542612bd3.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6559/vip439380np6.jpg

[Airwalker]

Good thing somebody caught that. I feel relieved for Ness.

Then again, we'd all know 10 days from now when Japan gets their release and everything spills out.

[BardicKnowledge]

Anyways, this is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-CZ1GFbUv4&feature=related

That's amazing -- if only. Still need Mega Man in there too...

Edit: I can't do quote tags! awesome.

[Critical Hit]

Iwata interviews Sakurai. (http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol1_page1.jsp)

[BeleagueredandBeset]

Iwata interviews Sakurai. (http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol1_page1.jsp)

Very, very interesting. I didn't know that he picked people from Game Arts. But, glancing back at the Musicians Page (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music01.html) of the Smash site, I guess it wasn't exactly ever hidden from anyone...

[The Author]

So, is there any game worth purchasing that have come out recently?

(I know about no more heroes, I just want to know about something I may have missed.)

[Cecilff2]

Endless Ocean was released yesterday. Not sure if it's worth the buy but user reviews on gamespot averaged 9(scoring averaged 8.1).

[Zup]

So, is there any game worth purchasing that have come out recently?

(I know about no more heroes, I just want to know about something I may have missed.)

I've just picked up Fire Emblem, which is awesome, and am waiting for Endless Ocean (I ordered it on Amazon; boy, they take forever!)

[megadave]

Picking up Endless Ocean after my recording session tonight. I'm going to get an SD card and put lots of 311 and ambient music on it. Hmm, gotta cycle through my OCR library and see what I can find.

By the way, what's the best way to get music onto the Wii games? I've never worked with SD cards before.

[Neo Samus]

Picking up Endless Ocean after my recording session tonight. I'm going to get an SD card and put lots of 311 and ambient music on it. Hmm, gotta cycle through my OCR library and see what I can find.

By the way, what's the best way to get music onto the Wii games? I've never worked with SD cards before.

If you don't have an SD slot on your computer buy an USB adaptor. then just drag and drop the songs like you would on any non-iPod MP3 player.

Does that help?

[atmuh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VxrQiCz4_o
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
someone has it LEAK WILL COME SOON!!!!!!!!

[anthonium]

Endless Ocean was released yesterday. Not sure if it's worth the buy but user reviews on gamespot averaged 9(scoring averaged 8.1).

After reading various reviews and the fact that it's only $30 I'm definitely going to be picking up Endless Ocean this weekend. Plus I could sure go for something nice and relaxing unlike most games out there where you just blast everything. It'll be a nice change for once.

Anybody wanna scuba dive with me when I get it?

[Zup]

After reading various reviews and the fact that it's only $30 I'm definitely going to be picking up Endless Ocean this weekend. Plus I could sure go for something nice and relaxing unlike most games out there where you just blast everything. It'll be a nice change for once.

Anybody wanna scuba dive with me when I get it?

Hell yeah. I ditto that relaxing thing; I definitely need to get relaxed after resetting for the fifteenth time on Fire Emblem.

[MechaFone]

Four updates for Smash Bros. Awesome level. Awesome music. A Pokemon that makes you switch bodies with your opponent. And that other thing. Things are looking up.

[Ray Falling]

Things are going to get really spoilerific pretty soon, so I think I may just have to avoid the internet when they release it in Japan.

The whole Jigglypuff thing was pretty interesting, but I don't want to know anything more about Brawl now that isn't officially announced.

On a side note: when will Fire Emblem be released in Europe?

[The Author]

This sucks, I can't seem to find out if endless ocean was released in Canada.

[Azul v2]

Thats a pretty awesome smash level.

[BardicKnowledge]

This could be the only moving stage that I'll actually enjoy playing.

[megadave]

Well crap, the Mushroom Kingdom has turned to ruins. I don't understand. That's kinda sad if you ask me. Do they mean that the whole kingdom is like that? Sorry, I'm one of those weirdos who actually cares about the Mario story / timeline.

[Neonlare]

Well crap, the Mushroom Kingdom has turned to ruins. I don't understand. That's kinda sad if you ask me. Do they mean that the whole kingdom is like that? Sorry, I'm one of those weirdos who actually cares about the Mario story / timeline.

Bowser Won.

[megadave]

Bowser Won.

But that's impossible. Bowser never wins. Mario always beats him.

Okay, for real, maybe this has something to do with Brawl's plot? Anyway, it just disturbs me. I don't know why a deserted Mushroom Kingdom disturbs me so much, but it does.

[Thalzon]

Well crap, the Mushroom Kingdom has turned to ruins. I don't understand. That's kinda sad if you ask me. Do they mean that the whole kingdom is like that? Sorry, I'm one of those weirdos who actually cares about the Mario story / timeline.

I think this was Bowser's old territory, hence all the castles and caves around the entire place. After Mario trounced him, Bowser had to build another castle a considerable distance from the Mushroom Kingdom, and after just 23 years Peach, constantly getting kidnapped, hasn't had the time to issue building permits for this expansive but deserted section of her kingdom.

[The Author]

That or, you know, it just looks unique that way.

Plus, it's a fairly good idea for a stage, that calls back to where it all began (although I assume there will be some classic DK stages as well...)

[Scufo]

As much as I hate scrolling stages and think we're getting way too many, this stage looks really freaking cool. And occasionally getting World 1-2 instead? Awesome.

Although that would have been a really nice surprise...

[linkspast]

As much as I hate scrolling stages and think we're getting way too many, this stage looks really freaking cool. And occasionally getting World 1-2 instead? Awesome.

Although that would have been a really nice surprise...

as would snake... and sonic...


but this is not the brawl thread...

[Neonlare]

Mmm, thinking about this, does Nintendo even have an "ultimate arching villain"? Final Fantasy usually has some extremely potent dark force, perhaps the Subspace Emperor could fill this void? I hope the end boss music is at least half as epic as that of Bowser's one in Galaxy.

And on that note, Captain N for Brawl.

[BardicKnowledge]

...does Nintendo even have an "ultimate arching villain"? Final Fantasy usually has some extremely potent dark force, perhaps the Subspace Emperor could fill this void? I hope the end boss music is at least half as epic as that of Bowser's one in Galaxy.

FF games usually have a boss to wrap up the plot neatly, but it's failed a couple times:

FF1 Chaos neatly wraps what little plot there is full circle (literally).
FF2 Emperor was fairly bland.
FF3 terrible -- no plot connection at all. Should have made Zande be the last boss.
FF4 Golbez is sweet, but Zeromus doesn't cut it for me, though he's the best of the "bad".
FF5 Exdeath well connected to the plot, but I would have liked to see Enuo.
FF6 Kefka is amazingly badass...and he's the only villain on this list to succeed with his plans.
FF7 Sephiroth is the coolest, though Kefka is still more fun.
FF8 Ultimecia doesn't get enough plot mention the first 40 hours of the game.
FF9 even worse than FF3/8 -- the endboss is a random character that hasn't been mentioned the entire game.
FFX Plotwise, the best villain yet.

As far as Nintendo goes, Ganon is the only "evil" boss that comes to mind. They've never had any other crossovers, so it's hard to say if there will be a clear boss above the bosses. Let's bring back Wart from Subspace! :p

[Airwalker]

I feel it's just inevitable that the Brawl roster will get leaked, and I will undoubtedly read it by accident. So instead of trying to not find something out for a month and a half (an impossible task), I am instead looking forward to it being leaked.

[Unstable Hamster]

Well, since this is not the smash bros. brawl topic, I'd like to ask a question. I go to Wal-Mart today to grab my copy of No More Heroes. Which I have heard from Kotaku that it had been pushed ahead to the 22nd, this news made me happier than me getting the game latter (It's also the reason too!). now being in the place of Idaho, somehow games get here one day latter. So now it's the 23rd, I go to my Wal-Mart because I had 20 Mart-bucks from returning a duplicate game we had. I go their and I could not find that said game. Discouraged I had to leave to go to calculus, in which case I ended up getting high from a sharpie (remember to have a writing utensil OTHER than a sharpie.) Then I decided to go to my Gamestop (horrid I know...) and the guy working there had never even heard of this game. I though how do you miss THIS game? The one good looking game till brawl? He said that their getting it on the 4th. So I go home discouraged again. and here I am sobbing about it. So here's my question. Do I buy this online where they say it's out and use the Mart-bucks for groceries, or do I simply wait for the faulty Wal-Mart or Gamestop to realize how much they suck and bring out the game?
EDIT: Man that sharpie is getting to me...

[megadave]

Here's what you do:

1. Trade in your Wal-Mart 'bucks' for cash and, and never go to another Wal-Mart again, because when you shop there, you help spread their evil.

OR

If you can't trade for cash, buy the groceries and some pens and never go to another Wal-Mart again.

2. Buy No More Heroes off of a trusted site on the internet. Try not to think about it until it comes in the mail.

3. Check your mail a week later and find it in the mail. Put the game in the Wii and play it.

4. Tell us what you thought about it.

[atmuh]

the game sucks

[megadave]

Really? Tell us why.

[atmuh]

its been out in japan for quite some time now so i played it a while ago
combat gets dull very quickly

[The Author]

its been out in japan for quite some time now so i played it a while ago
combat gets dull very quickly
I hear it's pretty open ended. DOes this have the potential to just runaround and do dumb stuff kinda like GTA?

[atmuh]

I hear it's pretty open ended. DOes this have the potential to just runaround and do dumb stuff kinda like GTA?

from where i was, no
possibly later

[Unstable Hamster]

Well, I went and did the latter. Yet it wasn't that I did not have any pens or pencils, I just forgot them. I swear though I am CRAMMING them down my backpacks throat. Now I eagerly await my No More Heroes as I watch the video of where I apparently have to simulate masturbation in order to win. (http://nomoreheroesgame.us.ubi.com/index.php) (watch the trailer.) Man I want this game!!!

In an unrelated note, I finaly got around to playing my brothers Metroid Prime 3. How foolish I was to wait. Give whoever brought stackable beams back some cake.

EDIT: I don't care what you say, it won't make me regret this. I think... at least I'm hurting Wal-Mart...

[anthonium]

Has anybody picked up and played Endless Ocean yet? I just bought it today but haven't opened it because I'm still not sure whether I will truly like this game or not. The whole relaxed part about it is what intrigues me most but I'm hoping it will be rewarding as well. I'm wondering what people that have played it say about it even though most game review sites have given it a 7/10 or 8/10.

[megadave]

I got it last night and played it for 2 hours. I've never played anything like it before. It's pretty cool, definitely relaxing and immersive. You might get a kick of excitement from seeing new creatures, sunken treasure, and stuff, but it's mostly like 'swim around and look at stuff'. For now - like I've said, I haven't played it enough.

The only thing I'm really disappointed with (so far) is the boat. I thought you could pilot the boat manually and look around from the deck, but no.

I'm going to wait and get a few more opinions on No More Heroes before I purchase it.

[Zombie]

Alright, WTF. No More Heroes seems to not be "officially" out from everywhere I looked. Amazon said Jan. 31, and WalMart doesn't have it (go figure). Grr...:-?

I did beat Killer 7 yesterday though, which was amazing (and exremely wierd). I am now ready for more suda51 goodness.:-)

Edit - ebgames.com has it in stock, ready to ship within 24 hours.

[Wipomatic]

Full SSBB Angel Island remix released:
http://ss.sonicstadium.org/download/angelisland.mp3

[Genjutsu74]

Full SSBB Angel Island remix released:
http://ss.sonicstadium.org/download/angelisland.mp3

Sweet Jesus that's awesome. Where was it released at?

Man, March feels a long ways away. I might grab Super Paper Mario or something to kill time until it comes out.

EDIT: I knew when I posted that was a dumb question. :banghead:

[SirChadlyOC]

Alright, WTF. No More Heroes seems to not be "officially" out from everywhere I looked. Amazon said Jan. 31, and WalMart doesn't have it (go figure). Grr...:-?

I did beat Killer 7 yesterday though, which was amazing (and exremely wierd). I am now ready for more suda51 goodness.:-)

Edit - ebgames.com has it in stock, ready to ship within 24 hours.

I blame Nintendo. My GameStop store received a shipment of 2 today. And one of those was a preorder, so there was only one copy for the general public. Needless to say, it was gone by the time I started work at 5:30 today.

No wonder Suda complained that 3rd party games don't sell. Nintendo isn't giving them enough support. Oh yeah, and the 3rd party games are crappy ports, etc.

[Zombie]

I blame Nintendo. My GameStop store received a shipment of 2 today. And one of those was a preorder, so there was only one copy for the general public. Needless to say, it was gone by the time I started work at 5:30 today.

No wonder Suda complained that 3rd party games don't sell. Nintendo isn't giving them enough support. Oh yeah, and the 3rd party games are crappy ports, etc.

Only 2 copies? That just makes sad to hear that. I guess from the poor japanese release of the game they must be scared to ship many games out here. :-?

[PuRe-eViL]

Wouldn't mind an external hdd for the Wii either =/ Considering that the Wii lacks raw power when compared to the 360/ps3. Coming up with some more storage space is an easy way to put it closer to par with other platforms (at least in that respect). And if we don't get a harddrive for it when WiiWare is launched, I'm going to cry >_>

And about those delays / poor shipping / etc... Just be thankful that you don't live in Australia. We get the majority of things 3-6months later than everywhere else =/

... But mostly I want a hard drive for it. You would too if you only had the Wii version of GH3 T_T

[JoeFu]

I blame Nintendo. My GameStop store received a shipment of 2 today. And one of those was a preorder, so there was only one copy for the general public. Needless to say, it was gone by the time I started work at 5:30 today.

No wonder Suda complained that 3rd party games don't sell. Nintendo isn't giving them enough support. Oh yeah, and the 3rd party games are crappy ports, etc.

Why blame Nintendo? It's ubisofts job to distribute the game they brought here. This has nothing to do with Nintendo.

And NMH is awesome. I'm ranked 8th now :)

[Neo Samus]

http://topicscollector.blog55.fc2.com/blog-entry-2815.html

5 minute vid of smash bros in action. Straight from the "Everyone's Nintendo Channel" that we don't have yet.

[Arek the Absolute]

http://topicscollector.blog55.fc2.com/blog-entry-2815.html

5 minute vid of smash bros in action. Straight from the "Everyone's Nintendo Channel" that we don't have yet.

isnt that just beautiful

also fei fong wong for brawl

subspace final boss for fei - HIMSELF

props for those who GET IT

[Red Shadow]

neat to see the mario player using the cape to aid recovery

[Linkjing Donuts]

looks like you can grab edges without having to face them

also where the fuck are our channels


also also i want a skateboarding wii fit board game

[Morrack]

Cool movie Neo Samus!
Especially the part after 3:40, since the battle tune from FE7 plays on the background!
That, combined with Lyn being Assist Trophy, brings back my hope for Hector.
Well, guess we'll see it in about a week :wink:.

[nookster]

Does anyone see any lag in todays Smash update? looks like we've got nothing to worry about

[Neo Samus]

I wouldn't rule out that out Nookster. From what I've heard around the barn, is that Japan has better latency then NA. Also the battle was only a couple hundred miles from each other. But I do hope that lag is at a mimimum.

[The Author]

So apparently, ZSS does not become Samus again when she dies...

Do we know when the suit comes back on?

[Kanthos]

The developers can (and should!) do a lot to reduce lag, but ultimately, they're at the mercy of the speed of the connection between the involved machines, other traffic using the same route, number of stops along the way (each must do some work to decode and reroute the data packets) etc. At least with current methods of data transportation, you can *never* have any guarantees about lag.

[Rambo]

So apparently, ZSS does not become Samus again when she dies...

Do we know when the suit comes back on?

When ZSS does her final smash, her armor re-forms around her. That appears to be the entirety of her FS.

[friendlyHunter]

ZSS's down-special move appears to be some kind of weird aerial dive, much like what Juste Belmont can do in Harmony of Dissonance... could the whip-wielding ZSS be - gasp - a Belmont clone??? Or maybe they just wanted to put a Belmont in but couldn't, so they gave all his moves to Samus????

[Edit]
That move I'm talking about is in the Dojo update, right after Zero Suit Samus is revived.

[megadave]

Although I think you're going off the deep end a little bit, it still seems like a Belmont might be there.

Oh yeah, my verdict on Endless Ocean: It rules. Also, it helped me arrange a trip to camp on an island in the Gulf Coast too.

[anthonium]

Although I think you're going off the deep end a little bit, it still seems like a Belmont might be there.

Oh yeah, my verdict on Endless Ocean: It rules. Also, it helped me arrange a trip to camp on an island in the Gulf Coast too.

I started playing it last night and indeed it is a good game. It's unlike any other game I've played and it's just such a nice game to pick up and play when you're feeling all stressed or just want to chill out. I was thinking of using my own music for the game but the soundtrack already made for the game fits it perfectly. I've yet to dive online with a buddy though. :\ Anyway it's definitely a game worth getting and it's just $30.

[megadave]

For real. I like the soundtrack (the chick who sings it is hot too), but I do want to add some extra songs. Some of the mellower OCR remixes would be great, and I know that Amber by 311 (or half of their catalog) would be nice.

[Critical Hit]

As far as latency/lag is concerned, I'm just hoping to be able to connect to the nearest city from here (400 miles away or so) without issues, let alone the rest of the US. I'm probably equa-distant from both the lower 48 (as we call you guys) and Japan...so we'll see how that works. :???:

[Silent Mike]

The Japan Dojo has a different video with Snake, Kirby, Mario and Ike.

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi06.html

Also, new japanese commercials shows off stage creator and some new SSE clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWJR4nBp_4

[anthonium]

For real. I like the soundtrack (the chick who sings it is hot too), but I do want to add some extra songs. Some of the mellower OCR remixes would be great, and I know that Amber by 311 (or half of their catalog) would be nice.

You mean Hayley Westenra? I wouldn't call her hot, she's more like BEAUTIFUL. The song is called Prayer and originally composed and performed by Secret Garden. It's such a nice song. Anyway the more I play this game the more I get into it. I like the little sense of humor in the dialogue as well. haha.

[friendlyHunter]

The Japan Dojo has a different video with Snake, Kirby, Mario and Ike.

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi06.html


LOL, look what Snake does on the post-fight screen where they announce the winner. Does he do that in Metal Gear games as well? (By "that", I mean point his ass at the camera at every possible opportunity)

[cobaltstarfire]

LOL, look what Snake does on the post-fight screen where they announce the winner. Does he do that in Metal Gear games as well? (By "that", I mean point his ass at the camera at every possible opportunity)

One has to wonder if maybe its some weird inside joke with the developers or maybe all of you that always point it out just love ass.

[Linkjing Donuts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5wNrk1KovQ

who's rockin out on the guitar at 00:19 sec?

[The Damned]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5wNrk1KovQ

who's rockin out on the guitar at 00:19 sec?

Is... is that the fucking mole guy from Animal Crossing?

[Amayirot Akago]

Is... is that the fucking mole guy from Animal Crossing?
Bit behind the times, are we?
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist08.html

[Unstable Hamster]

Yes. Repent, for the end is near. The mole will talk you out of existence and you will be forced to listen.

[Jarvi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5wNrk1KovQ

who's rockin out on the guitar at 00:19 sec?

unannounced AT probably, almost looks like someone from a Mother game, but I can't tell :(

[friendlyHunter]

Is... it certainly LOOKS like it's "him" there Rockin' 8O

He seems to be an assist trophy??????


Also:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various23/various23_080125j-l.jpg
ZOMG Falco's gone confirmed!!

[JoeFu]

unannounced AT probably, almost looks like someone from a Mother game, but I can't tell :(

That's Barbara (i think thats her name) the bat from Daigasso! Band Brothers.

EDIT:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h143/hemightbegiant/jam-with-the-band-20041103111544627.jpg

[Bigfoot]

Game demos, cool..cool.. that's a nice feature.

Why isn't it a feature already on the VC? That'd be even better :P

[Arrow]

JP site shows EarthBound and Fire Emblem 3 in the demo screenshots. Guess that means Marth's back for sure.

[Admiral_C]

Is... it certainly LOOKS like it's "him" there Rockin' 8O

He seems to be an assist trophy??????


Also:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various23/various23_080125j-l.jpg
ZOMG Falco's gone confirmed!!

I noticed that too... However, the Japanese version has a completely different picture for StarFox... hmmmmmm

[Neo Samus]

Is... it certainly LOOKS like it's "him" there Rockin' 8O

He seems to be an assist trophy??????


Also:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various23/various23_080125j-l.jpg
ZOMG Falco's gone confirmed!!


What pic are you showing? My work's "network" blocks Smash DOJO.

[Azul v2]

Snapshot from Star Fox 64 when you don't save Falco in Corneria and his G-Diffuser explodes.

[Penfold]

So they close down the Smash Bros Brawl thread, and the Wii thread becomes the new Smash Bros Brawl thread...

[Baleshadow]

I picked up No More Heroes yesterday. So far I've done the first two ranking missions. I hope the game gets better, because right now I'm not enjoying it very much at all.

[Arek the Absolute]

So they close down the Smash Bros Brawl thread, and the Wii thread becomes the new Smash Bros Brawl thread...

Believe me, it is much better this way.

A new thread will be made once the Japanese launch is out for a couple of weeks.
I plan on making a pretty detailed first post with all sorts of info and other junk that noone will read when the thread becomes longer than 2 pages.

[Neo Samus]

Sad thing is, you're right Arek. It's pathetic that people can't follow a few simple rules.

[Admiral_C]

On the flip side... you really can't expect ppl to NOT talk about it...

[Neo Samus]

Snapshot from Star Fox 64 when you don't save Falco in Corneria and his G-Diffuser explodes.

Ah! LOL!!

[Sag Ee Mana]

Believe me, it is much better this way.

A new thread will be made once the Japanese launch is out for a couple of weeks.
I plan on making a pretty detailed first post with all sorts of info and other junk that noone will read when the thread becomes longer than 2 pages.

Thanks from the "other" Frenchy, Arek, we poor Europeans will read your (?) thread, hoping for real news and interesting posts.
See ya !

[atmuh]

i intend to spoil it all as soon as i get it :]

[Arek the Absolute]

Thanks from the "other" Frenchy, Arek, we poor Europeans will read your (?) thread, hoping for real news and interesting posts.
See ya !

Long time no see, good friend.

I will try to keep the thread as spoiler free as possible. Hopefully people won't be too cruel and spoil the plot of Subspace, since that is one of the main "games" in Brawl.

[Wipomatic]

I'm starting to get worried about Brawl EVER being released in Europe. That stuff recently where the spokesman said "no European date has ever been announced for Smash Bros" doesn't really bode well.

[Arek the Absolute]

You could always mod your wii and buy the American version >.>

[Wipomatic]

But would that work with online and not brick my Wii?

[Sag Ee Mana]

I'm starting to get worried about Brawl EVER being released in Europe. That stuff recently where the spokesman said "no European date has ever been announced for Smash Bros" doesn't really bode well.

I heard not before June at least. (forgot the source, it's from a nintendo europe guy I'm sure) >_<

Otherwise, Douli, my roommate and myself are going to Canada in March. Do you think we can easily find a Wii ? (I suppose it'll be a lot of trouble about getting SSBBrawl, maybe Play-Asia then)

[Arek the Absolute]

Frenchie mentioned that he was planning on getting a Wii from here. It shouldn't be to hard to find one. If it is, though, I am certain our Canadian ocr members can help you look for one.

[Sag Ee Mana]

That's harder to play imported games now on Wii in France (maybe Europe). With the updates, modding is not sure for now, and the Action Replay stuff doesn't work well...

So, if I want my Brawl, I think I'll let my roommate (who is playing with my console) buy -in my beloved country- his Wii >_>

We are still waiting for Fire Emblem, too. I know he wants that game too.

Ah, Wipo, I can understand you. And say hi to Nishi !

[atmuh]

Brawl will almost definitely include an update for NTSC-J consoles. If this update is run on an NTSC-U console or a PAL console it will more than likely brick it (for NTSC-U consoles it's far less likely to brick than a PAL). There are workarounds, patchers that will remove the update from the disc and make it still playable. These don't always work, but with the extreme demand for brawl if none of them do the homebrew scene will get a workaround out pretty fast.

also http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=queensaki&p=r
videos of the japanese brawl demo that they just got
Dedede is much more powerful than I would've thought

[anthonium]

hey megadave...I seem to be stuck trying to train my dolphin in Endless Ocean. As simple as the in-game instructions are I can't get him to GO. What are you supposed to do? It just says to touch his nose with A, then let go, then point in some other direction and press A and shake but all it does is keep petting him and I can't seem to dive again unless I train him. argh

On a different note I put Enya music in the game and it fits perfectly.

[atmuh]

http://brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_26(2).jpg
THE RETURN OF FINAL DESTINATION

[Bigfoot]

Thanks for ruining it.

[Scufo]

Yeah he doesn't care.

EDIT: Oh hey cool Final Destination.

[atmuh]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwii-ds.com%2Farticle%2F80654317.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

warning brawl spoilers
if its true anyways
and if its true i say WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

[227]

hey megadave...I seem to be stuck trying to train my dolphin in Endless Ocean. As simple as the in-game instructions are I can't get him to GO. What are you supposed to do? It just says to touch his nose with A, then let go, then point in some other direction and press A and shake but all it does is keep petting him and I can't seem to dive again unless I train him. argh

After you pet it you have to leave it alone for a moment, and a "GO!" icon appears on the bottom-right portion of the screen. Then you just have to flick the wiimote from side to side without pressing any buttons.

By the time I deciphered this from the sketchy instructions given in-game, I had issued about fifty commands to my stupid dolphin. I've never before wanted a harpoon so badly.

[anthonium]

After you pet it you have to leave it alone for a moment, and a "GO!" icon appears on the bottom-right portion of the screen. Then you just have to flick the wiimote from side to side without pressing any buttons.

By the time I deciphered this from the sketchy instructions given in-game, I had issued about fifty commands to my stupid dolphin. I've never before wanted a harpoon so badly.

Cool thanks I got it to work. I also read the instruction booklet (something I hardly do anymore) and that helped as well. I guess we're so used to in-game instructions now we overlook the instruction manual at times. heh.

[TheCatPhysician]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwii-ds.com%2Farticle%2F80654317.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

warning brawl spoilers
if its true anyways
and if its true i say WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

wait what did it say?
all i got out of that was "SUMASSHUBURAZAZU" and i think people were talking about ridley or something

[Paratha]

Other translation:

Go to http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/, select the bubble on the right, insert the original link, http://wii-ds.com/article/80654317.html (SPOILERS), and click the button surrounded by the orange rectangle.

I dunno what the deal is with the struck-out text, though. It shows up on the untranslated site as well, but not on the Google-translated version Atma posted. By combining both translations, you should get the idea :)

[Rambo]

Other translation:

Go to http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/, select the bubble on the right, insert the original link, http://wii-ds.com/article/80654317.html (SPOILERS), and click the button surrounded by the orange rectangle.

I dunno what the deal is with the struck-out text, though. It shows up on the untranslated site as well, but not on the Google-translated version Atma posted. By combining both translations, you should get the idea :)

On a related note (It's kinda old) but I'm just making sure everyone knows about this.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/21/nintendo-accidentally-confirms-lucario-ness-jigglypuff-for-bra/
Accidental confirmation of NESS, JIGGLY and LUCARIO.

I was wondering if anyone's got the Fire Emblem game for Wii. I was thinking about getting it the other day, but I've got mixed feelings. Any feedback would be appreciated.

[friendlyHunter]

Other translation:

Go to http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/, select the bubble on the right, insert the original link, http://wii-ds.com/article/80654317.html (SPOILERS), and click the button surrounded by the orange rectangle.

I dunno what the deal is with the struck-out text, though. It shows up on the untranslated site as well, but not on the Google-translated version Atma posted. By combining both translations, you should get the idea :)

From the comments on that page:
[SPOILERS]

The pudding is a participation almost decision by the matter of the example.
Falco is slight.


Has the size changed even into Ridley as for Orimar because the original and the size are different?


Isn't there Ridley because it is unexpectedly true?
In the problem of the size, even Kuppa is that size though is larger in reality.
It is believed more at least by concealment than Catherine.


Child link, Pitu, and Muuts
Especially, Roy who did not have being sure to know to everyone or who expected it at that time?

What I want to say is not goes out to X and a natural character)(a little Ridley excellence of Bibitsu such as the puddings and Falco.
It thought you should put neither the character nor the stage that was able to be surprised more to make us believe.


[SPOILERS]
Haha, it's just like the ol' Brawl thread!

And Purin = pudding, that's priceless ^_^

[Imagist]

Anyone else notice that unlike past visions of the Replays feature, today's image of that screen included a "Submit" button for that just like for snapshots and custom stages?

The 3-minute limit per video makes a little more sense now. If Nintendo's going to be accepting submissions to hand out daily, of course they should standardize them somehow.

[SoloGamer]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6941/various24080128jlfl7.jpg
Burgertime confirmed for Brawl

[Dhsu]

I think I have a new favorite sticker.

Agents...are...GOOOOOOOO.

[Thalzon]

A list of all Nintendo's games? Neato. Gives them an excuse to dig as deep into the company's history as they want for trophies and characters.

[Airwalker]

I think I have a new favorite sticker.

Agents...are...GOOOOOOOO.

Woah. I totally missed that sticker.

I hope this means Brawl's going to have an elite beat agent assist trophy.

[Zombie]

I was wondering if anyone's got the Fire Emblem game for Wii. I was thinking about getting it the other day, but I've got mixed feelings. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I have yet to get it, but from what I hear it is very similar to Path of Radiance gameplay-wise. It doesn't use the motion sensitivity or IR, so it is a much more traditional experience for the Wii. It is also harder than PoR from what I have heard.

I've been meaning to pick it up, but really am in no hurry with some of the other games out there (NMH, for example).

[Lord.Roderick.i]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwii-ds.com%2Farticle%2F80654317.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

warning brawl spoilers
if its true anyways
and if its true i say WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO
All I understood is the Ridley,Jigglypuff and Falco will be in, and how to unlock them right?
Ridley by doing something with Samus in the Sub-Space E.
Falco by clearing the 100 man or 15 min man?
And Jigglypuff by idk what.
Can someone clarify?

[Hawkwing]

On a related note (It's kinda old) but I'm just making sure everyone knows about this.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/21/nintendo-accidentally-confirms-lucario-ness-jigglypuff-for-bra/
Accidental confirmation of NESS, JIGGLY and LUCARIO.

I was wondering if anyone's got the Fire Emblem game for Wii. I was thinking about getting it the other day, but I've got mixed feelings. Any feedback would be appreciated.

ive got it, i made a thread about it that a few people reviewed it in, if you search for it youll find some info on it

[iskyoork]

japans opening videos been leaked Spoilers inside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8

well like one that I didn't know of at least.

Edit. Two. I dont know how to do a spoiler tag so you will have to check for yourself.

Edit part two. If you watch it to the end look at the credits for the characters, :(

[Paratha]

WHOA MAJOR SPOILERS

why is this game so epic

EDIT: 4chan /v/ has MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS
EDIT EDIT: someone on 2ch (Japanese, if you didn't know) is leaking EVERYTHING

[iskyoork]

I don't know, but god I wish this wasn't a leap year.

[Wipomatic]

I wish they'd GIVE EUROPE A FUCKING RELEASE DATE

[iskyoork]

really sucks for you guys

[Neo Samus]

Damn I was just about to post the vid!

iskyoork: You do realize that some credits don't appear until the character is unlocked. Remember? They did that in Melee.

Edit: I think Captain Falcon is piloting the Halberd! LOL!!!

[iskyoork]

some one pointed that out to me as I've been looking around, and I checked the wayback machine for the obvious no sega until sonic was released

[!Nekko!]

Woah! Hey that was...! OH SHIT THATS...!

This game is going to be so disgustingly epic, it makes me fall to my knees and weep.

[Azul v2]

Theres a stream of some guy playing the subspace emissionary on 2ch.

[Azul v2]

The F-Zero stage looks awesome. Oh and the player in the stream is fighting pokey with ness in the subspace mode

[Paratha]

Theres a stream of some guy playing the subspace emissionary on 2ch.

Watching it at the moment. Subspace Emissary as Link.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Woah! Hey that was...! OH SHIT THATS...!

This game is going to be so disgustingly epic, it makes me fall to my knees and weep.

It is/will be so epic, I'm going to openly hate on it for comedic effect whenever I see a group of people (which there will be a LOT of near where I live) and say what a piece of shit SSBB is. That sounds funny already.

[Antipode]

Time to retreat into my internet bunker to avoid brawl spoilers.

[Jam Stunna]

Time to retreat into my internet bunker to avoid brawl spoilers.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2hwp7yq.jpg

Look at it! LOOK AT IT!

[the_muteKi]

Doesn't seem to be a whole lot in that screen that we didn't expect already.
I wonder when Sonic is unlocked ... or if he's actually a default here in the US where he's much more popular.

[friendlyHunter]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2hwp7yq.jpg

Look at it! LOOK AT IT!

AHH MY EYEEEES!!!


On a completely unrelated note:

Theme of Samus Aran, Space Warrior -- Super Metroid
Woo!
Opening / Menu
(Metroid Prime) -- Metroid Prime
YEEEEEAAAH!!!!
Sector 1 -- Metroid Fusion
:shock: That had better be the song that I think it is...!
Main Theme (Star Fox) -- Star Fox
YEEEEEAAAH!!!!

Wow, all those are all menu/cutscene songs... I must REALLY like menu songs. I learn something new about myself every day...

[Amayirot Akago]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2hwp7yq.jpg

Look at it! LOOK AT IT!
SHOW ME YO MOVES

Fuck YES!

[I-n-j-i-n]

I see Marth in the new intro movie. yey

[Kureejii Lea]

That tracklist has like 100 songs. That's incredible. I wonder how many unlockables there'll be on top of that. I'm really glad to have Dark World and Star Wolf.

[Morrack]

Cool, nice movie.
Oh and I'm very interested in this rumour. The interview at the bottom of the page looks real to me.
http://digg.com/nintendo/Animal_Crossing_Character_Rumored_for_Super_Smash_ Brothers_Brawl_PICS
So far I've seen a LOT of predictions, but none included an AC character.
Guess we can put most of these fake character lists in the garbage can now.

[BeleagueredandBeset]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2hwp7yq.jpg

Look at it! LOOK AT IT!

I always thought he was pretty much guaranteed to be in when they announced Samurai Goroh as an AT.

[Airwalker]

Ashley's Song WarioWare: Touched! Arrangement: Tomoko Sasaki
Ashley's Song (JP) Sawaru Meido in Wario Arrangement: Tomoko Sasaki
Mona Pizza's Song WarioWare: Twisted! Arrangement Supervisor: Takahiro Nishi
Mona Pizza's Song (JP) Mawaru Meido in Wario Arrangement Supervisor: Takahiro Nishi

We better all be getting both versions of those songs. I hate it when companies arbitrarily decide we're too stupid to realize there are other languages in the world.

[iskyoork]

http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/?start=0

More spoilers lie within.

[Arek the Absolute]

Spoiler text below:

I am tired of seeing returning cast. I hope there are more people joining than just people from melee. I want to see NEW CHARACTERS, not melee cast :(

[iskyoork]

my thoughts exactly

[I-n-j-i-n]

ROY!

OOh, it's Luigi! It's Pichu!

But yeah, Melee returning = boring. It would've been more exciting if they scrapped everyone and put in all new characters even if that pisses off old fans.

[The Mutericator]

Spoiler text below:

I am tired of seeing returning cast. I hope there are more people joining than just people from melee. I want to see NEW CHARACTERS, not melee cast :(

No one is excited to see the whole Melee cast returning, just their favorite characters - personally, I wish they'd confirm Mewtwo and Captain Falcon and Marth (concretely) because I love playing as those guys.

(Note: I just read Arek's spoiler post now, so awesome.)

[Airwalker]

It would be awesome if they got rid of everybody boring and brought in an equal amount of new faces.

But I think it would be more awesome if they kept all of the old ones and brought in all the new faces anyway. I don't care if the character selection screen is crammed.

Oh, and hey, Dr. Mario is coming back.

[anthonium]

The intro didn't really impress me and I think it was too long though I'm sure most would disagree. Anyway it's cool they're bringing back Melee characters especially Luigi because then it would not be Smash Bros but I'm not thrilled about clones.

[iskyoork]

I havnt seen pichu yet? :/

[Arek the Absolute]

I am really starting to think that SPOILER -Lucario is the last new face to be on brawl.

I hope I am wrong. I really do hope I am wrong.

[Morrack]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9408803&postcount=562
SPOILER LINK!
This will most likely be the new roster. I hear confirmation from multiple sides.
To be honest:
Let's hope it's not.

[SirChadlyOC]

I just want to thank everyone for being good about spoiler tags and links so far. Or if people have been bad, I want to thank the Mods for dispensing justice.

That music list is huge, and more will come. Did we learn anything else with the music list? Perhaps a new stage? (Was New Pork City announced before??

[Arek the Absolute]

I just want to thank everyone for being good about spoiler tags and links so far. Or if people have been bad, I want to thank the Mods for dispensing justice.

That music list is huge, and more will come. Did we learn anything else with the music list? Perhaps a new stage? (Was New Pork City announced before??

No problem. This thread isn't dedicated to smash bros, so people read this for more than just this game. It is only right that we cover spoilers for brawl since people may want to keep from having things spoiled for them.

[Mr.Roboto]

*Sigh* (http://gonintendo.com/?p=34347)

snaking confirmed

And I was really looking forward to it.

[Sag Ee Mana]

- Nintendo will release Wii Fit in US in April 2008, and in Europe in June 2008. (http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm)

It would seem hard to see SSBB coming in Europe in June then...

So please... April-May xD
Or we can wait for September, remember Super Paper Mario anyone ?

Too bad for us.

Ok, I sure want an US Wii :mrgreen:

[Wipomatic]

What the fuck? They have a release date for that rubbish but not for Brawl?

[Airwalker]

Brawl Spoiler
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2338/finalrosterbg6.png

People are saying that is the final roster.

Another Spoiler
http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/?action=view&current=roomformanymore.png

And it meshes with that screen, since you couldn't fit any more characters there as they have placed it.

I still want more.

[shikigami]

Brawl Spoiler
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2338/finalrosterbg6.png

People are saying that is the final roster.

fake. i dont think celda is in it.

[Jam Stunna]

fake. i dont think celda is in it.

http://brawlcentral.com/

[Neonlare]

In honesty, I don't think that's all the characters in the game, really. Anyhow, wish Europe would get a Release Date D;.

[Airwalker]

Yeah. I could have sworn I saw Dr. Mario in a screenshot somewhere. Maybe I was mistaken, but he's certainly not in the roster I provided. Then again, I can't seem to find the screenshot I am thinking about. Maybe I imagined it.

[Neonlare]

Brawl Spoiler
Another Spoiler
http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/?action=view&current=roomformanymore.png

And it meshes with that screen, since you couldn't fit any more characters there as they have placed it.

I still want more.

Wow, that's a fair amount of slots remaining at the end of Ike there, 16 slots remaining, we'll have to see thoose that remain D;.

[Sag Ee Mana]

Yeah. I could have sworn I saw Dr. Mario in a screenshot somewhere. Maybe I was mistaken, but he's certainly not in the roster I provided. Then again, I can't seem to find the screenshot I am thinking about. Maybe I imagined it.

His theme has been moved in another stage, so maybe he won't be there ?

[Imagist]

There's still another empty slot on that roster screenshot.

[Airwalker]

Wow, that's a fair amount of slots remaining at the end of Ike there, 16 slots remaining, we'll have to see thoose that remain D;.

However, there is only enough room for 36 in total. That's one less than the number in the other screenshot.

[Imagist]

However, there is only enough room for 36 in total. That's one less than the number in the other screenshot.

Just to clarify, the one "complete" roster shot that's been posted here is fake. So far the confirmed roster is virtually similar but does not include Wolf.

[Bahamut]

Just to clarify, the one "complete" roster shot that's been posted here is fake. So far the confirmed roster is virtually similar but does not include Wolf.

This is really reminding me of the fake screenshots of the roster floating around before SSBM came out.

[Kureejii Lea]

We better all be getting both versions of those songs. I hate it when companies arbitrarily decide we're too stupid to realize there are other languages in the world.

Given that in Melee you could switch the game to Japanese and it would change character names (written and announced) and the background of the trophy display (among other things) I wouldn't be surprised if both versions were accessible just by changing the language setting.

[Broken]

But the Japanese disk will get ONE freaking trophy that is inaccesable in the PAL and US versions. I'm calling it right now.

[Airwalker]

Just to clarify, the one "complete" roster shot that's been posted here is fake. So far the confirmed roster is virtually similar but does not include Wolf.

You're right. I noticed the screenshot that has Wolf also has Cell Link in it, however, his picture is completely different in the other roster shot. Also, everybody is all jumbled around.

[aTOH]

Finally! I've been waiting for this -

Fatal Frame Wii Revealed (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165718)

[Sag Ee Mana]

Finally! I've been waiting for this -

Fatal Frame Wii Revealed (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165718)

Yeah, I'm also looking for that title.

Got the 3 games on PS2 (still have to play the 3rd xD)

I hope the wiimote will allow a good use of the camera :-)

[The Damned]

So, the history of the Wii and the PS3 has been... repetitive, to say the least. Nintendo comes out with a motion controller, Sony says it's a gimmick, then throws one in at the last moment.

Nintendo put rumble on their controller, Sony says it's last gen and no one wants it... then quickly puts it in theirs.

Now, even though he wasn't a Nintendo employee, some guy figured out a way to use the Wiimote as a VR tracking system (you've all seen it by now, just go back a few pages). Now, I don't know what Sony thought of this, but one of their programmers just turned the EyeToy camera into... a VR tracking system. OK, so it was a tracking system before when it came out for the PS2, but this is different enough to warrant a mention. It uses the exact same system as the Wii setup.

http://kotaku.com/351539/vr-head-tracking-for-the-ps3

Being from Sony's programming division, it's pretty much official. They've even put it up for download for people to play around with.

Man, Sony just loves copying Nintendo.

On a side note, now that two of the three consoles have the making for a basic one-player VR game, how long until we start seeing games that make use of this? Maybe a separate add-on that comes with the glasses, packed in with a new game?

[Majin GeoDooD]

Rock Band confirmed for Wii

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6185448.html

[Penfold]

So a while back I bought a Nyko wireless sensor bar, since by all accounts it was stronger/worked better than the OEM sensor bar. Well, it was, but after a month or so of owning it I got pretty annoyed with having to get up to turn it on and off, eventually needing to change the batteries, and that ridiculously bright blue LED on the front of it, and decided to make a change. I bought a tri-wing screwdriver to open up the OEM sensor bar, a soldering iron, and some wire and got to work on modifying the wireless sensor bar this last Saturday. After doing a search for what I was looking to do, I found a lot of people who made their own wireless sensor bars or modified OEM sensor bars but no one who took a 3rd party wireless sensor bar and power it with the Wii.

After taking apart the OEM sensor bar, I disconnected the wire that went to the Wii...should have just desoldered it but I wasn't thinking and cut/stripped the wires instead. Found out after testing connecting positive/negative wires to the battery connection points that the wires are enamel-coated, so I had to tin them (decided to solder at that point too).

After testing it out with no results, I tried connecting two AA batteries in circuit to the connection points with the Wii on, and that gave it enough of a "jump start" to keep working until the Wii was reset/turned off (when resetting or switching channels on the Wii power is temporarily cut to the sensor bar as I found out). The conclusion I came to was the extra circuitry used for the on/off switch, timer, and related speaker collectively caused the wireless sensor bar to draw more amps than the wire from the Wii could supply. Decided to rip out that damn blue LED at this point too...just because :P.

After discussing this with a friend, the best means to bypass this extra circuitry was clear - simply connect a small wire between where that stuff connected to the rest of the circuitry. Tried it out, and SUCCESS! Since I ripped out that blue LED that let me know when it was on, I had to get out a digital camera to see if the IR LEDs were on, which in a way added to the fun. Keep in mind to only strip that added wire just enough to make the solder connection...I stripped too much, and the first time I put everything back together the bare wire contacted somewhere to complete the circuit I was trying to bypass, so I had to wrap with electrical tape and put it together a second time.

Maybe the best part about this is that I didn't do any modifications that would keep it from working wirelessly either.

So, if you're just a little too far away from the tv to use the OEM sensor bar effectively and you don't want to have to deal with the inconveniences of a wireless sensor bar I'd recommend doing this. The tools/materials you'd need are a tri-wing screwdriver (or just clip the wire on the outside of the OEM sensor bar), a soldering iron, a little solder, some wire, and a wire stripper (the wireless and OEM sensor bars too, but that goes without saying). I can also put up pictures for reference if anybody needs them.