Nintendo Wii

[JoeFu]

No one ever reads my posts :(

I posted the trailer back a few days ago. I think I might need a sig :)

Anyways, with all the new info from that one japanese dude who got the game a few days ago I am so excited for this game. I want Fire Emblem more than Mario Galaxy.


http://www.velthomer.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5523

is the link to the forum with all the info. WARNING

SPOILERS GALORE!

[wormguy]

After watching that trailer, I think I can safely say

HOLY SHIT

No one ever reads my posts :(

I posted the trailer back a few days ago. I think I might need a sig :)


Well excuuuuuuuse me, Princess.

[JoeFu]

:) just messing around

Top 3 most wanted Wii games for me are

1. METROID PRIME 3... WTF JUST RELEASE IT ALREADY!
2. FIRE EMBLEM: WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL IT HERE.
3. Super Mario Galaxy.

I hope we get Fire Emblem for the summer.

[Smoke]

Today's VC update for Europe:

Kid Icarus(500 points)
Zelda: Ocarina of Time(1000 points)

Since I already have two copies of Ocarina of Time that I can play on my Wii I'm not downloading the new one, so I dunno if it has Rumble Pak support or not.

EDIT: Some other reports on other forums indicate a lack of Rumble.

:(

[SilverStar]

Today's VC update for Europe:

Kid Icarus(500 points)
Zelda: Ocarina of Time(1000 points)

Since I already have two copies of Ocarina of Time that I can play on my Wii I'm not downloading the new one, so I dunno if it has Rumble Pak support or not.

EDIT: Some other reports on other forums indicate a lack of Rumble.

:(

Nintendo pretty much made it official that there's no chance in hell of rumble in VC games. I don't understand why.. At this point, the Microsoft seal of approval seems to be a lot higher than the Nintendo seal.

[Drack]

Curious: Do N64 emulators allow rumble on force feedback joysticks?

[Shadow Wolf]

My Wii code is: 1237 9576 6402 6513

EDIT: Apologies, this is in the wrong thread. But you can still use it if you want, so I'll leave it there.

[Smoke]

Curious: Do N64 emulators allow rumble on force feedback joysticks?

If the emulator supports it, yes.

Also, it's gonna feel really weird to play Starfox 64.

Although I still have a bit of hope that it'll be added in a future update.

[Penfold]

If the emulator supports it, yes.

Also, it's gonna feel really weird to play Starfox 64.

Although I still have a bit of hope that it'll be added in a future update.

Oh man, I'd love to play Starfox 64 again; been such a long time.

As for the rumble feature, I see no reason why it can't just be added later if/when they make updates to the VC games. I don't recall hearing whether the classic controller has a rumble, but that doesn't much matter given that it's connected to the wiimote (which obviously does have a rumble feature).

[Smoke]

The Classic Controller doesn't have the room or the motors for rumble. If the Wii controller vibrated as a substitute it'd feel weird to have in my lap though.

[Drack]

Perhaps a rumble attachment will be released that uses the clips on the back of the Classic Controller. Don't know how it would connect to the wiimote though.

Rumble isn't vital anyway. I still think that the CC is the best controller ever.

[DiLEWSKI311]

maybe im an idiot, but what is that top button for that moves the internal mechanisms up and down...??

[Penfold]

maybe im an idiot, but what is that top button for that moves the internal mechanisms up and down...??

The top button is simply to disengage the clip on the back of the classic controller. The better question is what the hell the clip is for :P. So far nothing it seems, as nothing can be attached.

I still think that the CC is the best controller ever.

I agree. It feels so nice to use, and is equally comfortable using the d-pad or the analog sticks IMO. It took some getting used to using the z buttons, but that's the only downside I can really think of.

[Penfold]

DOUBLE POST!

So IGN has their hands-on impressions of Fire Emblem for Wii (http://wii.ign.com/articles/767/767088p1.html). I'm really excited for it, since I loved the FE for GC and this is gonna be pretty much an exact continuation of it (same engine, continuing the same story, etc). The big difference they noted was in terms of the story layout, which sounds cool to me (and it sounds like there's a total of 40 missions...4 stories with 10 chapters in each :-D ). After seeing a couple of the new gameplay vids they posted, one changed I noticed (which I don't recall seeing in the previous scans) is the addition of a lifebar for each unit on the map screen. It'll make it so much easier than having to select someone to see how much health the character has left. Looking at PoR's release dates, the Japanese release date was 6 months earlier than the US one so I'm guessing we'll get it in August (but I'm hoping for even earlier than that :-P)

[JoeFu]

I've already spoiled the crap out of Fire Emblem. I really can't wait for it. And those who are wanting super awesome graphics in an SRPG, don't expect that soon. I mean the best SRPG's of last gen have visuals that look like ps1 games.

I really want Fire Emblem.

[Zombie]

Sa-weet. I cannot wait for this.

[Bahamut]

So I was playing some Trauma Center for the Wii...holy shit is it hard. The difficulty jumps out of nowhere from Episode 1-5 to 1-6.

[KakTheInfected]

So I was playing some Trauma Center for the Wii...holy shit is it hard. The difficulty jumps out of nowhere from Episode 1-5 to 1-6.

IIRC, the DS game did that too.

[Bahamut]

IIRC, the DS game did that too.

Yeah I was playing the DS game too after to see how the control was different...my problem in the DS version though is that it won't recognize that I put the bandage.

[Drack]

I bought Sonic and the Secret rings today.

My friend bought Excite Truck today.

I think he got the better deal. Both are nice games, but excite truck is just soooo much fun

[Penfold]

Yeah I was playing the DS game too after to see how the control was different...my problem in the DS version though is that it won't recognize that I put the bandage.

Seriously - I like how it hurts the patient when it isn't put on correctly :razz:. I had trouble with zooming out in the DS version from time to time as well as that. I really liked the DS game, but the Wii version is far superior IMO.

Btw, about the clip on the back of the classic controller, looks like Nyko made something to connect into it (http://gear.ign.com/articles/767/767342p1.html) lol.

[The Mutericator]

Now all we need is Advance Wars Wii, using the Wiimote as a pointer, and we'll be set.

Oh, and with online play.

[Smoke]

Now all we need is Advance Wars Wii, using the Wiimote as a pointer, and we'll be set.

Oh, and with online play.

You mean like Battalion Wars 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battalion_Wars_2)?

[Drack]

I take back what I said earlier, Sonic and the Secret Rings is a hell of a lot of fun once you master the controls.

I think I'm pretty close to beating it.

[KWarp]

I take back what I said earlier, Sonic and the Secret Rings is a hell of a lot of fun once you level up Sonic.

I think I'm pretty close to beating it.
see bold

I'm not liking this level-up stuff very much. It's a great excuse to replay missions yes, I hate constantly equipping for every mission. Also why do we need 4 skill rings?

[Drack]

see bold

I'm not liking this level-up stuff very much. It's a great excuse to replay missions yes, I hate constantly equipping for every mission. Also why do we need 4 skill rings?
I only use one ring anyway. The skills do help a lot, but if I knew things like "quick jump when you're accelerating from rest" the game would be a lot more enjoyable from the start.

EDIT: Nested quotes impossible in vB?

[Bahamut]

EDIT: Nested quotes impossible in vB?

Nah, they're not impossible, but they're not default when you hit the quote button so you'd have to manually enter it in.

[wormguy]

You mean like Battalion Wars 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battalion_Wars_2)?

Oh man. I am so stoked for that game.

[JoeFu]

SATSR is really fun, just not in the beginning. You need to get the speed up skill and turning skill and stuff first.

I'm on the fourth world and the game is just fun.

Also, the fourth world doesnt have crappy music!!!


and Evil foundry's is alright.


WHOS GONNA ROCK THE PLACE?

[KakTheInfected]

Uh...can anyone get on the Shop Channel today? I want to check out what's new (aside from the obvious) but it's so laggy...side effect from OoT downloading?

[watkinzez]

Pretty cool trick; seems like your PAL Wii can play GC imports out of the box. No mods, no Freeloader, nothing. Originally found here. (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=51099)

Here's how:
Put an original PAL GC game in the Wii.
From the Disc channel, hover your cursor over the "Start" button.Now, here's the tricky bit:
Press the Eject button on the Wii, and then press the A button on the Wii Remote to select "Start".The "Start" button will remain unghosted for a moment after you hit the Eject button. Try to select "Start at the last possible moment.
As fast as you can, whip out the original PAL GC disc and swap in your NTSC GC disc.You've only got a split second here. Get the NTSC disc in before the disc slot lights up.

BINGO!

If you've been quick enough, the import GC game boots up. Once you get your timing down, this isn't hard to do.

I'm assuming this works for American consoles and Japanese games, too. Wii software apparently doesn't work though.

[Bahamut]

Want a shitty Wii game for cheap new? Look no further than Splinter Cell: Double Agent for the Wii! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IZK3TA/ref=amb_link_4456792_1/102-5500428-1859344

[Airwalker]

Pretty cool trick; seems like your PAL Wii can play GC imports out of the box. No mods, no Freeloader, nothing. Originally found here. (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=51099)

Here's how:
Put an original PAL GC game in the Wii.
From the Disc channel, hover your cursor over the "Start" button.Now, here's the tricky bit:
Press the Eject button on the Wii, and then press the A button on the Wii Remote to select "Start".The "Start" button will remain unghosted for a moment after you hit the Eject button. Try to select "Start at the last possible moment.
As fast as you can, whip out the original PAL GC disc and swap in your NTSC GC disc.You've only got a split second here. Get the NTSC disc in before the disc slot lights up.

BINGO!

If you've been quick enough, the import GC game boots up. Once you get your timing down, this isn't hard to do.

I'm assuming this works for American consoles and Japanese games, too. Wii software apparently doesn't work though.

The sad thing is it is really easy for Nintendo to fix this, so I wouldn't rely on it. Just make a system update and combine it with some new channel--and make it required to buy a VC game. Poof, away goes the trick. It almost makes you long for the days of consoles that weren't part of a network.

Silly restrictions to begin with anyway.

[Penfold]

First details of Space Station Tycoon on IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/768/768580p1.html) today. I was pretty skeptical of the game initially, given the "Tycoon" title (I tried games such as Railroad Tycoon in the past and never particularly enjoyed them), but after reading the interview I gotta say I'm intrigued. Looking forward to hearing more info about this as it becomes available.

[SilverStar]

Anyone notice that Nintendo seems to be trying to go for a channel per month? The Weather, News, and Internet channels, then for Feb it was the Everyone Votes, and isn't the Internet channel final version supposed to be for March?

I think April's channel is going to be an example of new downloadable games. Then maybe in May they'll release a more.. community-based channel, where you can at least let your friends know what games you have and the like(a feature mentioned at one of the conferences shortly before launch)..

Personally, I'd much rather see a DVD channel. It's been proven that the system has the stuff it takes(one of the modchips either on the market or coming out soon, allows for region-free DVD playback), all it needs is a software update. I'd pay $20 to turn my Wii into a sleek, sexy DVD player, for the living room. Hell, I'd probably go out and buy a new one, if they released it in black. Or red. I'd love it in red. Nice, sexy, shiny, Metroid red.

[G_D]

The first time I saw news about that, I thought for a split-second that it was talking about a successor to Space Station Silicon Valley. Sadly, I was wrong :cry:

[Penfold]

Anyone notice that Nintendo seems to be trying to go for a channel per month? The Weather, News, and Internet channels, then for Feb it was the Everyone Votes, and isn't the Internet channel final version supposed to be for March?

I think April's channel is going to be an example of new downloadable games. Then maybe in May they'll release a more.. community-based channel, where you can at least let your friends know what games you have and the like(a feature mentioned at one of the conferences shortly before launch)..

Personally, I'd much rather see a DVD channel. It's been proven that the system has the stuff it takes(one of the modchips either on the market or coming out soon, allows for region-free DVD playback), all it needs is a software update. I'd pay $20 to turn my Wii into a sleek, sexy DVD player, for the living room. Hell, I'd probably go out and buy a new one, if they released it in black. Or red. I'd love it in red. Nice, sexy, shiny, Metroid red.

For your predictions for April and May, I'd personally like to see those. It also makes me wonder if they release a new channel for March what it might be. As for the dvd channel (or giving the Wii dvd playback capability...as I see it, it would more likely be within the disc channel rather than it's own separate channel), I for one wouldn't have use for it but I also wouldn't be opposed to it. Just bought a new home theater during the summer, but I think my parents would enjoy the convenience of having dvd playback on the Wii (they've got a rather old dvd player hooked up to their main tv). Slightly off topic of what you were saying, but if they were to come out with say a special Metroid edition Wii at some point, I'd grab that up for sure (I'm a sucker for Metroid).

[SilverStar]

For your predictions for April and May, I'd personally like to see those. It also makes me wonder if they release a new channel for March what it might be. As for the dvd channel (or giving the Wii dvd playback capability...as I see it, it would more likely be within the disc channel rather than it's own separate channel), I for one wouldn't have use for it but I also wouldn't be opposed to it. Just bought a new home theater during the summer, but I think my parents would enjoy the convenience of having dvd playback on the Wii (they've got a rather old dvd player hooked up to their main tv). Slightly off topic of what you were saying, but if they were to come out with say a special Metroid edition Wii at some point, I'd grab that up for sure (I'm a sucker for Metroid).

Alright, so looking it up.. official word is end of March for the final version of the browser, so that's probably what March's channel addition will be. And then by the sounds of it ( http://wii.ign.com/articles/768/768435p1.html ), it looks like there's some games in the works that may well prove to be more.. streamlined, more casual games(think those flash games you download, for windows. Those would probably be more along the style of the early Wii DLC games, outside the virtual console), which a release date for some in Q2, which would put them starting in April as a possibility. So, April's update could well be the casual game channel, or whatever they cause it.

[Merk]

The full list of upcoming Data Design Interactive games is:

Action Girlz Racing
Hamster Heroes
Monster Trux Extreme: Offroad Edition
Anubis II
NinjaBread Man
Myth Makers: Trixie in Toyland
Mini Desktop Racing
Billy the Wizard
London Taxi: Rushour
Myth Makers Orbs of Doom
Myth Makers Super Kart GP
Earache Extreme Metal Racing
Elviz - Rock N Roll AdventuresAre Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman the final bosses?

[JoeFu]

Cheap and crappy games on the wii!!

WOO HOO!


SO DID NOBODY ELSE GET SONIC? IT IS A GREAT GAME.

[Drack]

SO DID NOBODY ELSE GET SONIC? IT IS A GREAT GAME.
I beat it. True ending.

In 8 hours playtime.

It is indeed a good game. Great game? Depends on your standards.

[Penfold]

Cheap and crappy games on the wii!!

WOO HOO!


SO DID NOBODY ELSE GET SONIC? IT IS A GREAT GAME.

I wanna get Sonic, but it's pointless for me to get it right at this time (work and school is getting more time consuming, and my workouts are getting longer :-P...haven't had time to finish FFIII yet even). Definitely on my list of games I'm gonna get when time permits, though.

[JoeFu]

Drack, its great compared to Sonic standard. I'm about 6 hours in and just got to the skeleton dome. It's really fun, but starts out kinda slow. Once you get all the speed skills the game is aweeeeeeeeeeesome.

[I-n-j-i-n]

On rails Sonic game is on rails.

Decent rental. I'd shoot myself if I bought it at full price.

[AarowSwift]

Sonic SR is the type of game to garner a very wide range of reactions from people, which is not unusual for a game that's pretty darn good but has too many flaws to be really great.

I'd recommend anyone to give it a rental and spend a few hours with it, then decide how they really feel about it. I rented it. I felt it gave off a rather poor first impression. By the midway point I was really frustrated at various points but enjoying myself enough to keep going. By the time I beat it (real ending) I decided that yes, I'd enjoyed it enough to buy it, full priced.

Also how much you enjoy a game like this is an issue of tolerance. I have both high standards and high tolerance for flaws. I see the flaws quite clearly, but they don't necessarily detract enough from my enjoyment to ruin any given experience.

[Ray Falling]

So IGN's Wiilease list still says Mario Galaxy for March 3 which is like...Saturday. This can't be right though, right?

[supremespleen]

So IGN's Wiilease list still says Mario Galaxy for March 3 which is like...Saturday. This can't be right though, right?Definitely not.

[Merk]

EBGames (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000229) has it for November 1st, which I'm sure is just some generic "way in the future" sort of date.


While looking for EBGames' date I found Manhunt 2 for Wii (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=230081)

[Ray Falling]

Metroid was supposed to get there first anyway right?

I'm kind of looking forward to "Heatseeker" now, as it's been ages since I played a good flight game :) Starfox not included.
I hope it's any good; then I'll get it this month.

[SilverStar]

So.. don't know if anyone else has noticed this(could be the game I'm playing that's causing it..) but my wrist starts to REALLY hurt, like it's being over strained, when playing some games that rely heavily on the pointer function. (game I'm playing right now is actually that Chicken Little one. As a platformer, it's not too bad. And the upgrade system seems fairly balanced)

I think it's because you have to hold your wrist unnaturally and uncomfortably straight, for long periods of time. It makes me worry that the Wii will cause me to develop carpal tunnel.

[Drack]

And no: whether a person enjoys it or not is not an issue of standards, but one of tolerance. I have both high standards and high tolerance for flaws. I see the flaws quite clearly, but they don't necessarily detract enough from my enjoyment to ruin any given experience.Did I say anything about enjoyment? It is indeed a good game. Great game? Depends on your standards.Enjoyment is not the same as whether you describe the game as a "good game" or a "great game" - you're defeating a point I didn't make!

[Nobinsor]

So.. don't know if anyone else has noticed this(could be the game I'm playing that's causing it..) but my wrist starts to REALLY hurt, like it's being over strained, when playing some games that rely heavily on the pointer function. (game I'm playing right now is actually that Chicken Little one. As a platformer, it's not too bad. And the upgrade system seems fairly balanced)

I think it's because you have to hold your wrist unnaturally and uncomfortably straight, for long periods of time. It makes me worry that the Wii will cause me to develop carpal tunnel.

The trick is to stretch and take breaks. Don't blame the machine, blame your brain.

[AarowSwift]

Did I say anything about enjoyment? Enjoyment is not the same as whether you describe the game as a "good game" or a "great game" - you're defeating a point I didn't make!

Well, it's interpretive. Good or Great can be translated to how to feel about the game, thus, your enjoyment. I wasn't really trying to defeat your specific point, your statement simply lead me to mine in an associative manner. I shouldn't have started the statement as though I was addressing you, though, and I've gone back and edited it.

[SilverStar]

The trick is to stretch and take breaks. Don't blame the machine, blame your brain.

Thing is, I'm talking after 20-30 minute play sessions. I had to take a 20 minute break in the middle of a level, because I was playing too long.

Granted, it could also be because of my setup. Having it run through my computer doesn't leave a lot of room, so I have to be a lot more rigid in order to keep the targeting on.

[Toadofsky]

Metroid was supposed to get there first anyway right?

I'm kind of looking forward to "Heatseeker" now, as it's been ages since I played a good flight game :) Starfox not included.
I hope it's any good; then I'll get it this month.

Heatseeker looks to good to pass up, I'm buying that game. I can't wait for a new Star Fox, I liked both Gamecube games, but didn't really care for the DS version, but then again, I'm not much into Strategy games.

[Penfold]

Heatseeker looks to good to pass up, I'm buying that game. I can't wait for a new Star Fox, I liked both Gamecube games, but didn't really care for the DS version, but then again, I'm not much into Strategy games.

I really enjoyed Starfox Assault, though I never played Adventures (or whatever that first one was). While the controls and everything with the tank were rather sluggish and it took getting used to controlling Fox on the ground, I liked it overall. Also, never played Starfox Command but it seems like it's the game that people either liked it or hated it (wanna throw in the Mitch Hedberg "or thought it was ok"). Anyway, if they were to make a Starfox game like Assault game for Wii, I'd get it (and I know there will be a lot of dissenting opinions about this).

[SilverStar]

I really enjoyed Starfox Assault, though I never played Adventures (or whatever that first one was). While the controls and everything with the tank were rather sluggish and it took getting used to controlling Fox on the ground, I liked it overall. Also, never played Starfox Command but it seems like it's the game that people either liked it or hated it (wanna throw in the Mitch Hedberg "or thought it was ok"). Anyway, if they were to make a Starfox game like Assault game for Wii, I'd get it (and I know there will be a lot of dissenting opinions about this).

I actually really enjoyed Starfox Assault. Couldn't get into Starfox Adventures, though. They should have totally kept that game outside of the starfox line, since it wasn't going to be one originally.

The only problem I have with Assault, is that it was too short. No branching mission paths or anything. But, the way they did everything else, I thought was rather interesting. Even the tank I enjoyed. I just wish they could have put more into it.. they could have made the levels feel much larger, if they did more the way they did the starbase assault stage.

[Penfold]

I actually really enjoyed Starfox Assault. Couldn't get into Starfox Adventures, though. They should have totally kept that game outside of the starfox line, since it wasn't going to be one originally.

The only problem I have with Assault, is that it was too short. No branching mission paths or anything. But, the way they did everything else, I thought was rather interesting. Even the tank I enjoyed. I just wish they could have put more into it.. they could have made the levels feel much larger, if they did more the way they did the starbase assault stage.

Yeah dude, the starbase stage was awesome, and a big part of that was due to it being so vast. I agree though: biggest problem with that game was how short it was. I'll be very interested to see what they come up with for the Wii version (only a matter of time till there's a Starfox Wii).

I was really hoping by now there'd be news on some sort of Pikmin game for the Wii (I could even see a Pikmin DS being pretty kickass). I'd prefer it if they made a Pikmin Three (lol, Pikmin Thwii), but even if it were a wiimake I'd look into it.

Finally, whatever happened to wiimakes? I know Nintendo mentioned the concept once, then seemed to have vanished. I'm sure at least some people would disagree, but I think it'd be novel to have Luigi's Mansion, Metroid Prime, Prime 2, Mario Sunshine, etc wiimade. Well, anyway, I guess if it happens we'll know about it eventually :-P. And so ends my pointless rant lol :roll: .

[Penfold]

Double post again.

Anyone get a chance to check what's new on VC today?

[Bigfoot]

Super Ghouls' N Ghost (SNES)
Sword of Vermillion(Genesis)
Elevator Action(nes)

[Merk]

I find The Wikipedia Article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virtual_Console_titles_%28North_America%29 ) to be a much faster way to see what got added.

Elevator Action though? That wasn't even on the upcoming list for the longest time and then suddenly appears and gets released. Castlevania? Metroid? Punch-Out!!? No, let's release a NES game that actually predates the system.

[Penfold]

Super Ghouls' N Ghost (SNES)
Sword of Vermillion(Genesis)
Elevator Action(nes)

Cool. I remember the original Ghouls n Ghosts being pretty good; anybody know how Super Ghouls n Ghosts is?

EDIT:
I find The Wikipedia Article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virtual_Console_titles_%28North_America%29 ) to be a much faster way to see what got added.

Elevator Action though? That wasn't even on the upcoming list for the longest time and then suddenly appears and gets released. Castlevania? Metroid? Punch-Out!!? No, let's release a NES game that actually predates the system.

Good advice. And yeah, I want my orignal Castlevania and Metroid dammit! I was really hoping we'd get some more awesome classic games during this lull period like Super Metroid, but I guess they're gonna keep me waiting :razz:.

[Bahamut]

I fucking hated Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts...the control mechanics pissed me off to no end.

[Bigfoot]

I fucking hated Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts...the control mechanics pissed me off to no end.

Haha, it was always best double jumping in the wrong direction and going "oops..." as you fall into oblivion.

[Airwalker]

Looking for a Wii controller?

Amazon has them in stock. (http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Wii-Remote-Controller/dp/B000IMWK2G/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-8792944-2915242?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1173197590&sr=8-2) As in, right now!

It also says they have nunchuks in stock. (EDIT: Amazon has only 3 of these left at retail price.)

I told myself I was gonna wait to find Wii Play with the remote at retail price, but this just seemed a little too urgent.

[Penfold]

Looking for a Wii controller?

Amazon has them in stock. (http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Wii-Remote-Controller/dp/B000IMWK2G/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-8792944-2915242?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1173197590&sr=8-2) As in, right now!

It also says they have nunchuks in stock. (EDIT: Amazon has only 3 of these left at retail price.)

I told myself I was gonna wait to find Wii Play with the remote at retail price, but this just seemed a little too urgent.

Cool. As far as brick-and-mortar stores are concerned, I've noticed Toys 'r' Us has often tended to have at least nunchuks and classic controllers in stock, if not wii remotes (in this area anyway).

[Toadofsky]

Still waiting for Heatseeker and Super Paper Mario. I just hope Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros. Brawl, and Metroid Prime 3 deliver on what should be awesome games, hopefully better than Sonic and the Secret Rings...

[Penfold]

Still waiting for Heatseeker and Super Paper Mario. I just hope Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros. Brawl, and Metroid Prime 3 deliver on what should be awesome games, hopefully better than Sonic and the Secret Rings...

Agreed. I'm hoping Nintendo is gonna give us a little news about Mario Galaxy, SSBB, or Metroid Prime 3 during GDC (if nothing else, I'd like to hear the release date for Metroid), but we'll see what happens.

[Jam Stunna]

I usually don't pay attention to videogame rumors I hear at school, but one caught my attention. Is there any truth to the rumor that Square-Enix is developing a Kingdom Hearts game for the Wii?

[Penfold]

I usually don't pay attention to videogame rumors I hear at school, but one caught my attention. Is there any truth to the rumor that Square-Enix is developing a Kingdom Hearts game for the Wii?

Only confirmed Square-Enix games for Wii that I know of are Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (damn, even it's sub-title has a sub-title) and Dragon Quest Swords.

[Airwalker]

Wow. I just got back from Target. I went there for other reasons, but I came home with a Wii controller and a nunchuk that were sitting innocently on the shelf.

So, now I have acquired two extra wii-motes in one day just stumbling on to both coincidently, whereas my weeks of hunting and calling every place in the phonebook have turned up nothing. (Going to sell one to my brother.)

[Zombie]

I need some new games with good multiplayer. My friends are kinda getting boored of Wii Sports when I play with them, and they didn't really dig Exite Truck.

I hope SSBB comes soon!!! When is GDC at again?

[Soma]

I need some new games with good multiplayer. My friends are kinda getting boored of Wii Sports when I play with them, and they didn't really dig Exite Truck.

I hope SSBB comes soon!!! When is GDC at again?

When is it? I think it starts tomorrow (wednesday) though there were was some rpg panel thing on tuesday (I think).

[Penfold]

When is it? I think it starts tomorrow (wednesday) though there were was some rpg panel thing on tuesday (I think).

I could be wrong, but I thought it was 5th-9th.

EDIT: Yeah, according to IGN it's 5th-9th. (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/770/770207p1.html) They seem to be covering it pretty well, so I think they'd be a good site to visit for news related to it.

[JoeFu]

omfg, new super paper mario videos and gametrailers, gamevideos, ign, and gamespot. SPM is going to be so freaking awesome. I can't wait to play it!!!!!!!!!!

ONLY ONE MORE MONTH!

[Tenucha]

I still can not find any place that carries Wii... and it's HIGHLY annoying me.
PS3 is so easy to find but Nnooo... the DS and the Wii are scarce or something.

[Soma]

I still can not find any place that carries Wii... and it's HIGHLY annoying me.
PS3 is so easy to find but Nnooo... the DS and the Wii are scarce or something. Yeah that does sorta blow. I'm so glad i got both at launch, but i had no clue that it would turn out as bad as this. Specially the DS, there's no reason that it shouldn't be everywhere. I was at EBstop a few weeks ago picking up crackdown and the guy tried to sell me a pink DSlite because it came in the same shipment. He claimed it would be gone in about an hour, I'm sure it was, but seriously WTF nintendo?

Those videos of Super Paper Mario are way beyond my expectations for the game. I'm definately looking forward to picking that up. It's a bit sad, i was thinking about what Wii games i'm looking forward to this year and it's nothing but 1st party stuff. I'm sure that's quite common but i did buy rayman, elebits and SMB at or near launch but traded them in. I kept excite truck and zelda (both 1st party games) I hope there's an ouendan or EBA game coming to the Wii, that would be kinda sweet.

[KWarp]

My most anticipated 3rd party game this year is Dewy's Adventure. Aside from that I'll probably pick up Paper Mario and Mario Party 8 in the next few months.

Oddly it appears Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, and Brawl are NOT QUARTER 2 TITLES WTF NINTENDO AT THIS RATE ONE OF THEM WILL BE DELAYED TO 2008 ARGH!11!11111 8-O

[JoeFu]

Well, I don't care if they are delayed, I just hope between now and the end of the year Fire Emblem and Metroid Prime 3 comes out. Mario needs to be perfect and so does SSBB. Metroid should be perfect already.

[Dexie]

I usually don't pay attention to videogame rumors I hear at school, but one caught my attention. Is there any truth to the rumor that Square-Enix is developing a Kingdom Hearts game for the Wii?

*snickers*

It's EGM's April Fool's gag for this year.

'Mushroom Kingdom Hearts' is the full name of the game. If the scan of the page gets tossed back onto 4chan today, I'll grab it and link you to it.

[Ray Falling]

I'm still waiting for Nintendo to sneak in F-zero Wii for April n_n;

I got Ikaruga to keep me entertained for now...oh yeah and that other important thing uhm school. Butbutbut I really want to get my hands on some good Wii games NOW.
Must...have...Metroid

[Mr. Wizard]

To this point, is there any reason why one should invest in more than two nunchuck attachments? I don't know of any game that uses more than two. My friend is wanting to know if he should invest in more or not, and I'm curious to know as well. Any help would be appreciated.

[Smoke]

My most anticipated 3rd party game this year is Dewy's Adventure. Aside from that I'll probably pick up Paper Mario and Mario Party 8 in the next few months.

Oddly it appears Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, and Brawl are NOT QUARTER 2 TITLES WTF NINTENDO AT THIS RATE ONE OF THEM WILL BE DELAYED TO 2008 ARGH!11!11111 8-O

It wouldn't really surprise me. While delays in development could be a reason, there's also the possibility that they just don't wanna release all the heavy-hitters at once so they don't eat eachother's sales. Besides, if they delay, they can add in more content :).

Sidenote: Wii officially goes online with gaming on June 25th, with the release of Pokemon Battle Revolution.

[linkspast]

So pokemon is their flagship game in to the online world... Not SSBB?

[Bahamut]

Yes.

And anyone see that footage of Super Paper Mario? Looks like a game I'd buy in a heartbeat.

[Ninja-san]

Perhaps game companies shouldn't put a realease date out. Just walk into a store one day and there it is on the selves.

[JoeFu]

Freaking IntSys. They make such awesome games. I just got Paper Mario TTYD and that game is awesome. I can't wait for Fire Emblem and Super Paper Mario. Need a killer app?? SUPER PAPER MARIO IS OUT NEXT MONTH!!!!!!!!!!

[G_D]

Anyone know what time Miyamoto's speech is at? I can't find it anywhere.

[JoeFu]

Like now...

[RealFolkBlues]

Miyamoto's speech is at 18:30 GMT. Did you guys see this? (http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23356) What a crock of shit. I am one incensed fanboy.

[Ray Falling]

Paper mario is out that soon? 0_0 Shweet! I been looking forward to that ever since I saw the Cube trailer thing.

It looks like it's gonna be a big game with loads of challenge. Should be good. :)

Hmm, IGN doesn't mention a European release date ;_; hope it won't be too long before we get it.

I wonder if this means that the other games that were previously announced for Cube (Donkey Kong and Kirby) are close to being finished as well.

EDIT:
Miyamoto's speech is at 18:30 GMT. Did you guys see this? (http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23356) What a crock of shit. I am one incensed fanboy.

That makes me mad! Who is that guy anyway? I don't buy games because they're "art", if I want art, I'll make it, or buy it, but I don't expect to get "art" when I buy a game T__T; Please.
Very immature approach too; let's see this dude make "art" games...

[Ninja-san]

"Number one: recognise and push games as a serious art form. Number two: make a console that doesn't suck ass."

Games being pushed as a serious art form isnt gonna happen. The game may have graphics that stun with beauty but its not gonna be considered "serious" art unless theres some kind of bullshit explanation behind it or its totally new. If Your trying to compete with the top notch graphics just as everyone else is its gonna fall into the same catergory and frankly it'll start to get boring and mundane. In fact in my opinion Nintendo touched something new. They took a giant risk with windwaker using those cel shaded graphics. Ive never really seen that type of style used in a game. You dont need the fanciest technology or top notch tools to make art.

[Ero Elohim]

Miyamoto's speech is at 18:30 GMT. Did you guys see this? (http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23356) What a crock of shit. I am one incensed fanboy.

Wiki on Chris Hecker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hecker)

Notice anything odd? Pay particular attention to the line "It is interesting to note that though Hecker is respected within the game industry, as of 2005 he still has not shipped a single game (this will likely change when Spore is released)." Sounds like he's doing loads to further the Games-As-Art movement. Y'know, with the whole not making any games and stuff thing.

[watkinzez]

Huzzah, more Hecker bashing..

[megadave]

Take a Salvador Dali painting and tack it on to your video game console. There, problem fixed.

Seriously, art is for coffee shop nerds and Mac users.

[JoeFu]

Well, i sat in front of my computer reading updates on Miyamoto's Keynote. It was alright, not much about games, but at least there was a mario galaxy video!

I hope we get to see it today.

[Merk]

Miyamoto's Keynote:

...
Well that was a whole lotta nothin'


Yes I know the whole imminent stock thing to prevent them from releasing anything big. If that's the case, why even have Miyamoto show up in the first place? Was he scheduled to talk about a bunch of new things, and then this stock news came in and Nintendo's like "oh well, just rehash the same speech you gave last time".

[megadave]

I don't like Nintendo's tight-lip policy very much. They should do like the others and let it out, so that hype will travel and fanboys will piss their pants.

[KakTheInfected]

I'm glad I wasn't following it. Sounded boring as hell.

[JoeFu]

Sucks that Nintendo had to sell stock this week. Because of that they have to abide by the laws and could not talk about anything in the future. That is most likely why Miyamoto's keynote sucked so much. Oh well, MARIO GALAXY VIDEO!!

[megadave]

I forgot to add that the Hecker guy is a total arse.

[SilverStar]

Miyamoto's speech is at 18:30 GMT. Did you guys see this? (http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23356) What a crock of shit. I am one incensed fanboy.

I would take that as approval, personally. He wants to say the Wii is a piece of shit, well that just means it's worth its weight in solid gold!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piero_Manzoni

So, if the Wii is a piece of shit, and an artist was able to sell his shit, sealed in a tin can, for its weight in gold, that means the Wii is art, incarnate! :P

But, seriously, he complains because the CPU isn't powerful enough to handle the AI he wants to do for Spore? A game they're porting to the DS? This guy's gotta get his head out of his ass, because that ain't gold he's mining up there.

[JoeFu]

omfg i am downloading the mario video now... 5%!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://media.nintendo-europe.com/compel/video/C_g6BRRIqwjrL5FRko2ZHsidYuj27aoR.mov

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHHH NINTENDO SITE GETTING BOMBARDED! GETTING 10KBS!!! BOOOOOOOOOO





http://rapidshare.com/files/20070081/C_g6BRRIqwjrL5FRko2ZHsidYuj27aoR.mov

rapidshare. You might get lucky and be able to download like i did.




OMFG BEST VIDEO EVER!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHH I CANT WAIT FOR IT!

[SilverStar]

That game looks to be so full of awe and win, yet at the same time it gives me headaches, just trying to watch it. o.o

[KakTheInfected]

The music sounds so Star Fox 64-ish. I want to play now.

[Ray Falling]

One thing I'm concerned about with Mario Galaxy is that challenges will be too simple/short. (Based on seeing the older videos) So I'm hoping for some good, solid info that will reveal the lenght of the game and it's levels. Space is huge, so they better use it :)

Also; I totally love the art style which almost has a clay-ish feeling to it (also seen in Kirby in the SSB video)in my opinion that is.

[JoeFu]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/joefu12/wii_SuperPaperMario_char33.jpg + http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/joefu12/MarioG017.jpg = YEAR OF MARIO

[linkspast]

Just watched The Mario video, and it looks really smooth and easy to play. Everything looked so natural.

[JoeFu]

omfg new post for pics

gifs i stole from neogaf by some guy named ant1532

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/joefu12/pirhannakp2.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/joefu12/flowerpowerob2.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/joefu12/vinesyt7.gif

[anthonium]

omfg i am downloading the mario video now... 5%!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://media.nintendo-europe.com/compel/video/C_g6BRRIqwjrL5FRko2ZHsidYuj27aoR.mov



That was a sweet video. I'm really excited about this game. I heard bad things about Mario Sunshine and I've yet to play it but I've heard all good about this one from websites. Unfortunately it looks like we have to wait until November for all the good games! (Metroid Prime 3, Smash Brothers Melee, Battalion Wars, etc)

[supremespleen]

Anyone else looking forward to another surprise Wii channel?

[JoeFu]

Miyamoto talked about a popularity one today. Something about putting mii's against each other and stuff. Could be interesting.

[KirbyMeister]

While most people will complain about it (OMFG NINTENDO IZ BEIN DUMB LOL POPULARITY CHANNL), I probably will end up using this a lot. It's not the greatest idea yet, BUT I did end up using Everybody Votes a lot.

However, this channel will also be Sony/M$ fanboy fodder, because it's not anywhere near a game.

I will be a little thrilled when my Wii starts glowing and I can play around with it. The only Wii Channels I rarely, if ever use, are Photo and Forecast.

I will be very thrilled, when my Wii starts glowing, and it's an announcement about new downloadable games.

P.S. why not a trivia channel!?

[supremespleen]

Trivia would rock. I would love to see something that could win you a few Wii points.

[Ninja-san]

Miyamoto talked about a popularity one today. Something about putting mii's against each other and stuff. Could be interesting.

Mii battle royales would be an interesting one.

[SilverStar]

I would actually like to see Nintendo do something a bit more.. almost exclusive, for the Wii. Offer a special Nintendo News channel or something, that's almost like an extension of Nintendo Power, but aimed at the Wii, with special Wii-exclusive content, including demos. They could make it a subscription channel easily, and it'd be a great way to draw people in, who are already Nintendo fans.

[Airwalker]

I believe it was an Op-ed piece on IGN that was talking about Wii Channels--but I read a good idea that I hope they implement. On the calendar, they should have official release dates for future Wii games, events and VC games listed there as soon as they can. It would be nice to have a direct source without all the rumor mills directly on my Wii.

[SilverStar]

I believe it was an Op-ed piece on IGN that was talking about Wii Channels--but I read a good idea that I hope they implement. On the calendar, they should have official release dates for future Wii games, events and VC games listed there as soon as they can. It would be nice to have a direct source without all the rumor mills directly on my Wii.

Agreed. Being able to mark down games you're interested in and get news about them automatically, including having their official release dates marked down, would be sweet. And it would help developers, by letting them know the general attitude about how popular the game may be, by how many people have it marked down to watch.

Then they could even issue some sort of early-watch exclusive content, to reward such players.. lots of things that could be done. Too bad I have little hope in Nintendo actually doing anything halfway intelligent with the online functionality the system has. For too long they've gone on about how "No one wants online play through a console! Nintendo will not have online!", even though a recent survey revealed that close to 90% of JP gamers either play online, or want to.

[Unstable Hamster]

Mii battle royales would be an interesting one.

Heh, Super Smash Brothers MeWii.

[FuriousFure]

Heh, Super Smash Brothers MeWii.

now thats an interesting idea... having your mii as a unlockable character in SSBB. like they all would have the same attacks across all consoles. it would just look like your mii.



pretty s'wii't if you ask me.

[The Instrument of GAWD]

now thats an interesting idea... having your mii as a unlockable character in SSBB. like they all would have the same attacks across all consoles. it would just look like your mii.

or they could just have your Miis on the wire-frame guys/gals like in Melee.

AHEM, anyway. I got my own Wii percisly a week ago (last friday). A co-worker told me he was selling his after losing $400 in game of dice (which was surprising since I didn't think people in this town were 'hard' enough to play dice). He sold it to me for $300, including two games (LoZ:TP and Madden 07 [which was traded in immediately]), an extra Wii-mote and numchuck besides the core system. Figured it was a good deal concidering how much the games and accessories cost. Everything's good and nothing was damaged.

I'm enjoying this Wii, just wish it wasn't stingie with the internet connection and media transfering.

[Ray Falling]

Or what about fighting a group of Mii's like the fighting polygon team on Smash 64? Each one having a copied power of an existing character :) That should be fun.

>_> Of course they could make a Wii Sports Mii Peach clone, what with the whole tennis, golf etc. thing. Of course these ideas arn't very new or interesting.

[Airwalker]

Considering how Miis are becoming integral characters almost by themselves, I could certainly see them coming to Smash Brothers.

[JoeFu]

New No More Heroes video.

http://gamevideos.com/video/id/9807

:)

[SilverStar]

New No More Heroes video.

http://gamevideos.com/video/id/9807

:)

That game is Sex, Love and Laserblades.

[KirbyMeister]

Nintendo REALLY needs to push Mii integeration into all games, or at least all multiplayer games. Hell, they don't even have to look like Miis if it won't fit the game style. Mii is an awesome idea: user-made characters that work in all games. Finally, you no longer have to spend an hour customizing your character - just import a Mii.

Except Nintendo isn't using 'em. Seriously. Only a whopping total of 3 games use them, and the number isn't growing anytime soon. I'm not gonna count the Everybody Votes channel, or the upcoming Popularity Channel. They aren't games.

Anyone else notice their Wii getting slower to boot as they get more channels? From what I've read, the Wii has to setup each Channel's preview program before showing the menu.... I have 13 channels currently, did Nintendo just never expect people to have a lot of channels? The Shop Channel JavaScript has an error message for being out of channel SLOTS. I thought it would just add on another page, but... Still, having 48 channels must take FOREVER to boot. I'm hoping for some firmware updates.

[Evilhead]

Nintendo REALLY needs to push Mii integeration into all games, or at least all multiplayer games. Hell, they don't even have to look like Miis if it won't fit the game style. Mii is an awesome idea: user-made characters that work in all games. Finally, you no longer have to spend an hour customizing your character - just import a Mii.

Except Miis are ugly. Character customization is one of my favorite parts of a lot of games. Making crazy looking boxers in Fight Night, awesome looking warriors in games like Morrowind, scantily clad babes in Soul Calibur 3... If those were all replaced with some ugly q-tip man that sort of looked like a person I would be sad.

[Penfold]

New No More Heroes video.

http://gamevideos.com/video/id/9807

:)

Oh hell yeah. Also read the summary of Suda51's speech at GDC (http://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771974p1.html). Kinda makes me wanna play No More Heroes that much more.

Also, lol Chris Hecker. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771849p1.html) "Nah, baby you know I love you. That's why I hit you."

Finally, damn I'm excited for Super Paper Mario and Mario Galaxy! Those are gonna be awesome, can't wait to get my hands on Super Paper Mario in April 8).

[watkinzez]

Killer7's graphics worked because of the fixed camera perspectives. Now that it's free roaming, it looks a bit less stylised and a bit more like a Playstation game.. maybe Suda should move away from the daylight scenes. Otherwise, bring it on.

And Hecker is such a pussy for apologising. Then again, working on Spore would be a pretty good job.

[KakTheInfected]

I think the graphics look fine. The voice acting, on the other hand, sounds exactly like it did in the original trailer, which is a horrible thing.

Is it *really* that hard to hire semi-professional voice actors these days? Hell, Killer 7 had some decent ones.

[Doulifée]

Except Miis are ugly. Character customization is one of my favorite parts of a lot of games. Making crazy looking boxers in Fight Night, awesome looking warriors in games like Morrowind, scantily clad babes in Soul Calibur 3... If those were all replaced with some ugly q-tip man that sort of looked like a person I would be sad.

i see mii more like a way to link all your stat around all game into one character. I don't want either lose the ability to built character in game. But some all around stat from various game could be use and stored into your me data.

[SilverStar]

I think the graphics look fine. The voice acting, on the other hand, sounds exactly like it did in the original trailer, which is a horrible thing.

Is it *really* that hard to hire semi-professional voice actors these days? Hell, Killer 7 had some decent ones.

You -do- realize that he -wants- such horrible voice acting, right?

[JoeFu]

Suda51 is awesome.

[Hale-Bopp]

I just scored a 187 in Tanks! :-o
Man, that little game is so addictive.

[Ray Falling]

I just scored a 187 in Tanks! :-o
Man, that little game is so addictive.

It sure is! Good lucking beating all 100 levels x_x I only got to like 60.

In a general note; I watched the first 2 parts of Miyamoto's speech and it was quite moving.
It seems like not so long ago when we were all anticipating any bit of info regarding the new Nintendo system and now it's here and doing great :)
I'm in marketing so I find the strategy and vision behind Nintendo very interesting. Oh to be part of something great like that *sigh*

I hope to be a game designer myself in 5 years though and I can only dream of ever bringing my games to the system. :)

[KakTheInfected]

You -do- realize that he -wants- such horrible voice acting, right?

Maybe he does, I don't.

[JoeFu]

Maybe he does, I don't.
Guess what?

He probably doesn't care what you want.

[WesPip]

Guess what?

He probably doesn't care what you want.
Plus he's awesomer than you.
How many Killer7's have YOU made?

[Soma]

Plus he's awesomer than you.
How many Killer7's have YOU made?

At least 3 the last time i checked.

Kidding.

I'm conflicted on the crappy voice acting. It's like the KillBill thing. It's stupid and over the top but that was the goal, so is that good? Guess it depends on your preference. No More Heroes trailer reminds me of Gungrave. Mmm..gungrave.

[KakTheInfected]

Guess what?

He probably doesn't care what you want.

You're absolutely right, he *doesn't* care what I or anyone wants in the game. He's one of those guys who thinks "Games are art, maaaaaaaan." That's why Killer 7 was so tedious at times. "Master." -3 seconds- "We're in a tight spot!" -5 seconds- "Tighter than tight, even!" Yeah, that's real cool. Characters who use catch phrases. Oooh, you're different you rebel you.

But Killer 7 was good because it was unique in how it played, had a great story that was backed up by great animated sequences and decent voice acting. NMH doesn't look like there's much at all unique about it. It looks incredibly generic. Even the Wiimote actions for the wrestling moves are being used in games like the Godfather port. This seems like another GTA clone with a director who promises "This game will be more violent than Manhunt 2!"

Yeah, will it? Focus on the game instead of trying to be to make something artistic, extremely violent or intentionally stupid. Everyone is aware he's capable of making good, "different" games, but this isn't Killer 7. It's something new and unproven and right now, it just doesn't look all that impressive.

And bad voice acting, even if intentional, is stupid. It's not cool or funny, it's an excuse to not spend the cash to hire professionals.

/rant

[SilverStar]

Games may have artistic merit, but games designed specifically to be art, don't do well at all. Art is something created for the love of the medium, for the select few. There is no such thing as Mass Media Fine Art.

[Smoke]

Except Miis are ugly. Character customization is one of my favorite parts of a lot of games. Making crazy looking boxers in Fight Night, awesome looking warriors in games like Morrowind, scantily clad babes in Soul Calibur 3... If those were all replaced with some ugly q-tip man that sort of looked like a person I would be sad.

Miis can be made to suit every graphic style you can think of, as they exist merely as a collection of stats(And as a result are very tiny to store, the Mii specification even has some leftover space for future additions) As long as characteristics are treated the same, a Mii will look like the same person in a variety of designs across games. Of course, this also depends on the game's designer and how they implement Miis.

[SilverStar]

Miis can be made to suit every graphic style you can think of, as they exist merely as a collection of stats(And as a result are very tiny to store, the Mii specification even has some leftover space for future additions) As long as characteristics are treated the same, a Mii will look like the same person in a variety of designs across games. Of course, this also depends on the game's designer and how they implement Miis.

I, for one, would like to see Nintendo release a Mii Channel V2, or something. Keep all the original stuff, but add extra customization features. Things that can be unlocked, or downloaded.

By this point, the popularity channel has been mostly played out, with people seeing the Miis all over the internet, so allowing for something totally new would expand on it.

[KirbyMeister]

I, for one, would like to see Nintendo release a Mii Channel V2, or something. Keep all the original stuff, but add extra customization features. Things that can be unlocked, or downloaded.

By this point, the popularity channel has been mostly played out, with people seeing the Miis all over the internet, so allowing for something totally new would expand on it.

Doubt it. Changing the Mii's binary format would cause ten kinds of havoc for every game that was written to read Mii, version 1. The results would be either:

1. Crashing
2. Save data corruption
3. Nothing at all (rare)
4. Missingno Miis

Avoiding that would require patching every Wii game that uses Miis, and I don't think there's a game-patching system for retail games. The Wii simply doesn't have enough memory for it.

And as for the popularity channel, I just wanna know when it comes out. I'm guessing 2 days from now, since it's a month since the suprise launch of the Everybody Votes channel, and we've been seeing new channels spaced about a month apart.

Also, how come everyone is ragging on the Wii's weak Q2 lineup? Q2 lineups always suck, videogames are still pretty seasonal, which I don't like.

[vega12]

Just a quick note: what makes you think that Nintendo would program so poorly, that they can't extend functionality of a standard object like Mii's, without causing problems with backwards compatibility? It would be quite simple, really, from a programming standpoint.

[SilverStar]

Just a quick note: what makes you think that Nintendo would program so poorly, that they can't extend functionality of a standard object like Mii's, without causing problems with backwards compatibility? It would be quite simple, really, from a programming standpoint.

Exactly. It'd be pretty much just like an MP3 ID3 tag. You have the classic, V1 which only has a fixed amount of info, then V2 which has the same info, but expanded vastly and with more options.

Hell, that could be why Nintendo has so far said no, to letting any other companies utilize Mii's in their games. Expanding a Mii save data by 1kbit is all it would take, to increase the amount of information by a vast amount, without losing any of the original, "classic mii" information. Very little of what's in there involves positioning. And since positions can be stored fairly easily within a short range, having 128 potentials above and 127 potentials below a default position, would mean a seemingly wide level of customization, in only 8 bits. For most of the features, well.. they could have 256 hair styles, 256 eye styles, 256 colors, 256 heights, 256 girths, 256 positions for nose, 256 positions for eyes, 256 shapes of eyes, 256 shapes of noses... you see how this is going? each one of those ranges of 256 is just 1 byte. 8 bits. 1 kilobit would allow for 128 features that, between them, could each have 256 positions or choices, and would barely take up any memory at all for storage.

[JoeFu]

Also, how come everyone is ragging on the Wii's weak Q2 lineup? Q2 lineups always suck, videogames are still pretty seasonal, which I don't like.


WHO'S RAGGING IN IT? SUPER PAPER MARIO COMES OUT Q2. that alone is enough to make it awesome. MP8 is also coming out in May.

[atmuh]

WHO'S RAGGING IN IT? SUPER PAPER MARIO COMES OUT Q2. that alone is enough to make it awesome. MP8 is also coming out in May.

so uninteresting....

[WesPip]

MP8 is one of the few MP games I've actually looked forward to getting instead of it being yet another title in an over-milked series. The Wii was practically made for minigames.
Apparently there are only 6 boards again though, which is pretty lame.

[Bahamut]

I'd doubt MP8 is going to be overly different from the previous MP games...but Super Paper Mario sounds sweet, definitely getting that at release.

[Zup]

I'd doubt MP8 is going to be overly different from the previous MP games...but Super Paper Mario sounds sweet, definitely getting that at release.

Dude. Wii. Wii controller.

Wii controller minigames!

OH WAIT ITS BEEN DONE

j/k, I'm actually looking forward to it.

[KWarp]

Games may have artistic merit, but games designed specifically to be art, don't do well at all. Art is something created for the love of the medium, for the select few. There is no such thing as Mass Media Fine Art.

Agreed. My drawing teacher explained the differences:
-Mass media art is an escape from reality.
-Fine art causes the viewer to reexamine his own reality from the artist's perspective.

By that definition I don't know of any videogames that qualify as fine art. Conceptually speaking, a fine art game could be something that challenges the hierarchy of society, or what is acceptable in culture. Oddly, Rockstar fits in that definition a little too well.

[Evilhead]

Man, just saw some videos on the Paper Mario game and it looks amazing. Gonna have to get this game!

http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?pi=1001411354

[atmuh]

Man, just saw some videos on the Paper Mario game and it looks amazing. Gonna have to get this game!

http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?pi=1001411354

to be completely honest i was totally uninterested in this game until i saw these videos

i might finally actually play a game

[Antipode]

WHO'S RAGGING IN IT? SUPER PAPER MARIO COMES OUT Q2. that alone is enough to make it awesome. MP8 is also coming out in May.

And some people....might not....have a Wii yet. So I'll be satisfied. I probably want to get MP8 as well - have you guys seen screenshots? It should be at LEAST as good as 6 was for me (didn't get 7), except hopefully looking much better and without all the magical sun/moon crap I had to deal with. Might reinvigorate it if they decide to switch things up a bit.

[SilverStar]

And some people....might not....have a Wii yet. So I'll be satisfied. I probably want to get MP8 as well - have you guys seen screenshots? It should be at LEAST as good as 6 was for me (didn't get 7), except hopefully looking much better and without all the magical sun/moon crap I had to deal with. Might reinvigorate it if they decide to switch things up a bit.

Unless MP8 has online, I have no interest in it. Local multiplayer is nice and all, but I'd rather play with people at distances I don't have to worry about getting smacked in the face from. :P

Guess I'll wait for MP9.

[linkspast]

And some people....might not....have a Wii yet.

me... Waiting for SSBB

[Merk]

North America VC Releases today:

Tecmo Bowl (NES)
Sonic Spinball (Genesis)
Double Dungeons (TurboGrafx-16)

[Airwalker]

Man, just saw some videos on the Paper Mario game and it looks amazing. Gonna have to get this game!

http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?pi=1001411354

Now I am psyched for Paper Mario. :grin:

[JoeFu]

You guys haven't been following super paper mario? The game is going to be amazing. Intellegent Systems is like one of the best dev teams at nintendo.

[Brithor]

That Super Paper Mario game looks pretty darned good. Shame I'm not getting a Wii 'till May, anyone know any good games released in late April/Early May?

[JoeFu]

Not really. Q2 usually sucks, but Super Paper Mario and Mario Party 8 should be enough for 3 months.

Mario Party 8 will be the first Mario Party game I own. The game just looks fun with the new wii stuff and it wont be button mashing mini games and stuff now.

[watkinzez]

SPM is Thousand Year Door's script without the RPG. Double win.

[Zombie]

That Super Paper Mario game looks pretty darned good. Shame I'm not getting a Wii 'till May, anyone know any good games released in late April/Early May?

I'm not quite sure... Like everyone else has been saying, SPM and MP8, but you can buy some old games like Trauma Center and Wario Ware (speaking of which, I still need to pick that up).

[KWarp]

I have a great selection of games for the next few months:

Must finish:
Excite Truck
Elebits
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Monkey Ball (if I can sit through it again)
Virtual Console games

Must buy:
Wii Play
Warioware
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8

[Brithor]

I don't know, I've never liked Mario Party that much... I bought MP6 and I didn't like it that much, if I'm getting a minigame based game I'd much rather buy Wario Ware.
Super Paper Mario does sound very interesting though :)

[WesPip]

I have a great selection of games for the next few months:

Must finish:
Excite Truck
Elebits
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Monkey Ball (if I can sit through it again)
Virtual Console games

Must buy:
Wii Play
Warioware
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
I played Elebits up to the 6th level, failed one, and stopped.
I really need to get back into it, though. It's really a good game from what I played. The multiplayer mode is crazy-hectic, though.

And Wario Ware is amazing, BTW. I let my mom play Wii Sports and Wario Ware [which I'd rented at the time], and she decided, without ANY sort of suggestion of my part, to buy Wario Ware. She doesn't own a Wii. So it's her game, but she stores it conveniently within reach of my Wii.
Hmm.

[EvilZereno]

I know it was recently released in Japan and it is going to take a while to get over here... but the main reason i bought a Wii was for the Fire Emblem game coming soon. :D

[Penfold]

And Wario Ware is amazing, BTW. I let my mom play Wii Sports and Wario Ware [which I'd rented at the time], and she decided, without ANY sort of suggestion of my part, to buy Wario Ware. She doesn't own a Wii. So it's her game, but she stores it conveniently within reach of my Wii.
Hmm.

lol, my mom bought WarioWare a couple weeks ago and she's been enjoying it. I let them borrow Wii Play but I don't think they've gotten around to it yet.

I know it was recently released in Japan and it is going to take a while to get over here... but the main reason i bought a Wii was for the Fire Emblem game coming soon. :D

It's gonna be good stuff IMO. I bought Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones last weekend to feed the FE addiction, but I think it'll make the wait for the new one that much harder after I finish it :razz: .

[Bahamut]

So...anyone looking for another Wiimote? I'm willing to sell an extra for $40 shipped anywhere in the US...I don't want any extra remotes.

[Soma]

So that Naruto Geckito Ninja Taisen Ex game for wii is coming to america this year. That's cool but wait it's not going to be the same game. The main reason i wanted to play it was because it involved the shippuden characters and the newer storyline (much like the narutimate hero ps2 games). They're actually taking out all the shippuden stuff (as i understand it) to match up with Shonen jump naruto in america. *sigh*

[SilverStar]

Elebits is a game that I find rather surprising. I rented it for a week and a half(online rentals = win :D), beat it, went back to get the extras and stuff. Only managed to get about 1/3 of all the extra stuff there is.. and even after playing it so much, I still want to buy it.

And that's after being rendered virtually crippled in my right hand, my play time being reduced to less than 30 minutes at a time from how rough that game is on my wrist.

A game that I keep wanting to play, even after it hurts like hell. Now THAT is a testament to how good a game can be.

But, I'm really worried that too much play of the Wii will lead to early carpel tunnel syndrome.

[atmuh]

I played Elebits for 20 minutes when I bought it and have not played it since.
I have no idea why.

[JoeFu]

Elebits is one of my favorite Wii games. It's really fun, but the slowdowns get a little annoying. I still want to get some of the extra's like vacuum always on and Homing beam always on.

I hope Konami does make a second one with improvements. The guy in charge of the game has expressed interest in making a new one.

I also hope Dewy is awesome.

[SilverStar]

Elebits is one of my favorite Wii games. It's really fun, but the slowdowns get a little annoying. I still want to get some of the extra's like vacuum always on and Homing beam always on.

I hope Konami does make a second one with improvements. The guy in charge of the game has expressed interest in making a new one.

I also hope Dewy is awesome.

I think the big reason for the slowdown, is the insane amount of physics going on. And, it makes me want to see the exact same thing done on the X360 and PS3, to see how well they can handle the same events. I know the Wii isn't anywhere near the bulk of the others, but I at least want to see if they can live up to their hype for boosted physics, when they have 800 objects flying around, each one with a unique physics model, and all of them being tracked and applied individually.

As well, being able to grab the moon and drag it across the sky is win! :D

A sequel would be great, I just hope they make some overall improvements(like either doing better for voice acting, or getting rid of it entirely), and maybe let things like turning handles be done with the nunchuck so you can keep pointed and still turn the handles and knobs without killing your wrist or anything. Perhaps less focus on the pointer functionality and more on using motion tracing with the accelerometers so you can do better for throwing objects across an arena.

[Airwalker]

I played Elebits for 20 minutes when I bought it and have not played it since.
I have no idea why.

Yeah--I didn't really like it at first. It seemed really mundane. But that all changes in the last few levels. It's sort of like Katamari Damacy. It starts off tiny, but the ending is amazingly fun.

[Bigfoot]

Sorry if it has been posted, but Gamespy and Nintendo are partnering together for the Wii's online play.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070313005397&newsLang=en

[SilverStar]

Sorry if it has been posted, but Gamespy and Nintendo are partnering together for the Wii's online play.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070313005397&newsLang=en

This can only be a good thing. Providing a professional-level game matching service for their online play, could allow for some more advanced tools. An entire Gamespy channel, for users to see what games their friends are playing, for example. Not quite on par with what MS has going, but certainly a lot better than the mishmash Sony is(was?) sticking to, which was pretty much a pissed-on orgy of "Whatever the hell you want to try, even if it doesn't work for anything else". This helps to keep online content costs down, since it's fairly streamlined.

So, let's hope for the best?

[Airwalker]

So long as I can play against people without having to be their friends, I will be happy. Even if you can't befriend those players.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Frankly, in my experience of using Gamespy, it frankly was below expectations. I tried it for the Dreamcast, Xbox and etc and it's simply too clunky to use efficiently. Maybe the channel option could make things easier, but Gamespy is still a middleman to muddle through.

As for Sony's plans, it is still a bit clunky, but I don't see it as any better or worse than going the Gamespy route. I wish both companies take 360's cues and go for the totally embedded online gaming functionality instead.

[supremespleen]

Yeah, I've never been fond of gamespy. But with Nintendo working with them I am sure it won't be terrible.

[Smoke]

Frankly, in my experience of using Gamespy, it frankly was below expectations. I tried it for the Dreamcast, Xbox and etc and it's simply too clunky to use efficiently. Maybe the channel option could make things easier, but Gamespy is still a middleman to muddle through.

As for Sony's plans, it is still a bit clunky, but I don't see it as any better or worse than going the Gamespy route. I wish both companies take 360's cues and go for the totally embedded online gaming functionality instead.

The DS's online has always worked through Gamespy, and I haven't seen much reason to complain about that(Other than the sometimes long time it takes to find opponents in particular games)

My guess is that it'll work pretty much the same as DS online(Only with a single system-wide friendcode rather than on a per-game basis, with some exceptions), with matchmaking and multiplay options/features varying per game. You might never even see anything Gamespy-related other than the IPs you connect to, and stat keeping would be on Nintendo's own sites(Like they do right now)

[Penfold]

So Koei unveiled their new RPG for the Wii, called Opoona. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/772/772659p1.html) I never got around to playing Contact, but how they explained the jobs was somewhat reminiscent of those from Contact. The battle system seems rather unique as well, and am hoping for good things to come of it. Anyway, it's too bad they didn't have any real visual media to accompany the unveiling. Looking forward to hearing more about this title in the future.

[SilverStar]

So Koei unveiled their new RPG for the Wii, called Opoona. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/772/772659p1.html) I never got around to playing Contact, but how they explained the jobs was somewhat reminiscent of those from Contact. The battle system seems rather unique as well, and am hoping for good things to come of it. Anyway, it's too bad they didn't have any real visual media to accompany the unveiling. Looking forward to hearing more about this title in the future.

There were a couple pics at Kotaku. The battle system looks.. vibrant. The other screen was incredibly.. well, kiddy. I hope the screens they showed weren't actually from the game, or it's going to be like playing something from Treehouse TV. x.x

[Penfold]

There were a couple pics at Kotaku. The battle system looks.. vibrant. The other screen was incredibly.. well, kiddy. I hope the screens they showed weren't actually from the game, or it's going to be like playing something from Treehouse TV. x.x

lol, yeah vibrant is a good word for it (here's a link to the kotaku article (http://kotaku.com/gaming/koei/opoona-revealed-for-wii-244012.php) for those who wanna see it btw). Personally, I don't mind if a game looks kiddy as long as it's fun and whatnot but I guess we'll see once more news comes of it.

[SilverStar]

I agree, it's not bad if a game is kiddy, but I want it to at least have mature play mechanics. There's only so many Chameleon Twist 2 I can sit through, y'know? ;)

[Bahamut]

Friend code hell is back: http://www.gametab.com/news/843673/

[!Nekko!]

Friend code hell is back: http://www.gametab.com/news/843673/

NO! BAD NINTENDO! BAD COMPANY!

[G_D]

I'm not gonna believe it until Nintendo confirms. One thing that has me is that the interviewer calls it a 'friends roster' and the interviewee calls it a 'friends list'. Neither of them explicitly mention friend codes.

If it was true, it would be stupid. Like put-your-finger-in-your-butt-then-stick-it-up-your-nose stupid. This idea doesn't even fit in with Nintendo's whole reason for doing friend codes; if someone isn't going to rape you in one game, they're also not going to rape you in another game.

NINTENDO DON'T BE STUPID!

[supremespleen]

Help me out!

I want to get a cheapish VC game that I can play with either the Wiimote or the GC controller that I'll get lots of bang for my buck with.

Recommendations?

edit: I wanted to get Comix Zone, but it's apparently annoyingly difficult. D:

[Red Shadow]

get comix zone ANYWAY

NOW

[KakTheInfected]

Friend codes will never go away because players still play online Nintendo games and the press is too pussy to complain to Nintendo about them. They're so afraid that Nintendo will shun them that they instantly lose their balls.

[Baleshadow]

Help me out!

I want to get a cheapish VC game that I can play with either the Wiimote or the GC controller that I'll get lots of bang for my buck with.

Recommendations?

edit: I wanted to get Comix Zone, but it's apparently annoyingly difficult. D:

If you like shooters at all, get Soldier Blade.

[G_D]

Here's the full interview:

Falafelkid: I would like to know if I am right in assuming that the features mentioned (friend rosters, advanced matchmaking capabilities and comprehensive rankings data) suggest a single, unified online platform for each console, rather than one which is dependent on individual games (as is the case with the DS).

GameSpy: GameSpy’s technology does allow for features that could span multiple games. With the Nintendo Wii, however, the multiplayer features are title-specific.

Falafelkid: But is that the case for all Wii online titles across the board?

GameSpy: Yes, that is the case for Wii titles.

Falafelkid: Just one last question to make absolutely sure I have got this right, please. If I have a friend roster in one game, that roster will not be available to me in any other game. I have to build up an entirely new list for each title, right?

GameSpy: The answer to your question is yes, for the Wii friend lists are game specific.

It seems to me like this is a case of vague wording and an over-attentive media. Let's take a look at some of this stuff:

With the Nintendo Wii, however, the multiplayer features are title-specific.Wii has a centralized friends' list. Wouldn't it make sense if, in effect, the PR person was simply saying that *each game* had to decide whether or not to utilize the features? 'Title-specific' could mean nothing more than "We are giving the power of decision to game developers."

If I have a friend roster in one game, that roster will not be available to me in any other game. I have to build up an entirely new list for each title, right?

Yes...friend lists are game specific.Again, nothing decisive. There is no confirmation or denial that a friend roster could update the central friend list, simply that there is no direct sharing between games. And another use of the ambiguous 'game specific' phrase.


Also remember, this interview makes no mention of friend codes, simply friend lists/rosters. Besides that, this was an unnamed PR person, which is not exactly a seal of authenticity these days.

[Power Surge]

I just don't understand why Nintendo is forcing this friend code bullshit, even if only for the DS. One code per system should be enough. After all, even if the whole world knows your code, no one can reach you until you add someone else's code to your roster (unless someone threatened you or something, but realistically that's very unlikely). And yes, I know friend codes aren't even needed when you play against strangers, but especially since the service is free, you'll end up facing a bunch of dickheads who'll disconnect the moment they start losing. That's far less likely to happen when playing with friends, even if they're just people you know whom you've never met in person. And for that reason, having to add a friend code for each game will discourage players from playing online at all, if not for a long time. Case in point, the last time I played my DS online was about 2 months ago, and the time before that was about 4 months earlier. If the Wii really does get the same treatment, then fuck that shit; I may not bother playing a Wii game online at all.

[JoeFu]

The thing says nothing about friend codes. Friend lists could just be that, you upload which ever friends you have in your address into the list. I hope thats what it is, but everybody is blowing the "interview" out of proportion. I heard the guy that did that interview said the freaking wii was going to have an VR helment and some other crap. Also made up some other junk about star wars for wii at E3 which was never there.

[SilverStar]

The thing says nothing about friend codes. Friend lists could just be that, you upload which ever friends you have in your address into the list. I hope thats what it is, but everybody is blowing the "interview" out of proportion. I heard the guy that did that interview said the freaking wii was going to have an VR helment and some other crap. Also made up some other junk about star wars for wii at E3 which was never there.

Wasn't there some mention prior to the launch, about a feature for the message center that allowed you to automate the sending of info for your online games, to selected friends? To let them know you have such'n'such game, and what your code would be, to easily and automatically add you to their own lists?

[KakTheInfected]

If there weren't going to be friend codes in Wii games, Nintendo would have said it already. The Wii has parental controls that allow parents to limit what their kids do on the Wii. They could enable friend codes in games or even restrict all communication unless the player puts in the PIN number.

Yet Nintendo doesn't. Instead, the console ITSELF even has a friend code you have to enter.

Stop trying to look at this positively, it's just going to make it hurt a lot more when you're entering that first code.

[JoeFu]

I really don't care about friendcodes that much. I know it sucks, but that's such a small thing compared other stuff. I know people hate it, I don't really like them, but they aren't that big of a deal to me. I know I'm like a minority though. But whatever. What ever happens happens. We all know Nintendo isn't going to provide super awesome online play anyways. As long as it works and I can play with friends, then that's good.

[KakTheInfected]

Honestly, friend codes on the DS don't bother me too much. That's because I can sit in front of my PC and actually use my stylus to type them in. It's not so easy on the Wii.

[Red Shadow]

god who the hell cares

[PuRe-eViL]

zOH NOES! I GOTS TA TYP NUMBERS!

but seriously, it takes like 5 seconds to punch some numbers in. we do it every other day when we add contacts to our IMs, or numbers to our phones, etc...

so yeah

god who the hell cares

[Red Shadow]

exactly

what makes it so grossly different, just because it's on a video game console?

god forbid you have to move your hands when youre playing video games

[SilverStar]

The difference, is that it takes up a LOT more time to input the numbers on a Wii, than it takes with a keypad on a keyboard. Maybe you should get a Wii yourself and try it out, to see how annoying it is? ;)

[Red Shadow]

considering ive had a wii since launch and have added plenty of people to it for mii herding purposes i still fail to see the trouble

[SilverStar]

Alright. Go delete them from your list, then add 20 people in a row, without stopping, then wait for them to add you back.

[KakTheInfected]

Nintendo: Hey guys, instead of making it easy for you to communicate with other players in our games, we'll make you type in a bunch of numbers!
Sheep: Oh boy! Complication!

It's real fun when I'm playing Tetris or Metroid on my DS with a random person and I can't even tell them "GG" or ask to pause or even add them to my friend list so I can talk to them about the match we just played.

I should be able to meet people I like to play with in game, NOT go through fucking message boards and add 15-30 people in a time. I'm an adult, don't hamper my enjoyment of a game because some jerkoff parents can't monitor their spoiled kid.

If 10 kids would be kidnapped because of playing a Nintendo game online, it STILL doesn't warrant pissing off millions of players.

And again, all of this could be fixed if Nintendo would just require players to enter the Parental Control PIN to bypass friend codes. But will they? Psssssssssh.

[Zup]

If 10 kids would be kidnapped because of playing a Nintendo game online, it STILL doesn't warrant pissing off millions of players.



Dude, are you joking? This would be a horrible PR move and Nintendo would be labeled as the "kidnap console," and all of their profits would go down the drain. They're doing it precisely to avoid any kind of misdealings with kids.

Take a chill pill and let go of the instant gratification once in awhile.

[KakTheInfected]

So if some child rapist meets a a kid because of the Wii web browser and does something to him/her, does that mean that Nintendo is responsible? Of course not. How does this instantly change when a game is involved? Ding ding ding, that's right. It doesn't.

There are tons of games and platforms that allow players to freely communicate and I don't see XBL or WoW shutting down because of things that may have happened from people meeting on there.

[Bahamut]

Nintendo may not be responsible, but it would hurt their image as a console safe for kids to use for online gaming, and to them that image is more important than the cries of foul by more hardcore gamers.

[KakTheInfected]

Nintendo may not be responsible, but it would hurt their image as a console safe for kids to use for online gaming, and to them that image is more important than the cries of foul by more hardcore gamers.

To be completely honest, I don't think *anyone* believes online games are safe for kids, no matter what it's played on. And while you're absolutely right about Nintendo caring about that image, it still doesn't explain why Parental Controls can't be used to enable or disable friend codes.

[anthonium]

Has anybody heard of Super Mario Galaxy being for up to 2 players or has wii.nintendo.com made an error?

Check it out: http://wii.nintendo.com/software_mariogalaxy.jsp

If true that would be incredibly awesome. It'd be nice to play as luigi again.

[SilverStar]

Has anybody heard of Super Mario Galaxy being for up to 2 players or has wii.nintendo.com made an error?

Check it out: http://wii.nintendo.com/software_mariogalaxy.jsp

If true that would be incredibly awesome. It'd be nice to play as luigi again.

I think what they mean, is that one player can control the collection cursor thing while the other player actually, you know.. plays the game. :P

[anthonium]

I think what they mean, is that one player can control the collection cursor thing while the other player actually, you know.. plays the game. :P

What's a collection cursor? It seems I haven't kept up do date with info about this game.

[Bahamut]

To be completely honest, I don't think *anyone* believes online games are safe for kids, no matter what it's played on. And while you're absolutely right about Nintendo caring about that image, it still doesn't explain why Parental Controls can't be used to enable or disable friend codes.

I think it's so the parents have to put less effort in making it work the way the parents may want it to.

[SilverStar]

What's a collection cursor? It seems I haven't kept up do date with info about this game.

an on-screen cursor controlled by the pointer in the wiimote, used to collect coins and the like, near Mario. Also used for controlling other things.

[Trenthian]

You guys should become testers for NOA.
They give their testers free wii and games. (WEEKS before their ship date.)

[Thalzon]

Tell me how to get the job and, if it's feasible by gum I will!

[supremespleen]

Tell me how to get the job and, if it's feasible by gum I will!QFE
I'd love to do something like that, but I don't think it's happening anytime soon.

[Airwalker]

A Nintendo product tester, huh? I remember reading one of those 3-page magazines that book catalogs gave out back in elementary school. One issue was about dream jobs, and that was one of the few listed. If my memory serves me right, it said they had to have degrees in programming to understand the game fully or something.

Hmmmmm...

Well, a little bit of google power has resulted in an official Nintendo response (http://www.nintendo.com/corp/tester.jsp) to the many children out there dreaming of such a job. It seems they contract out such beautiful jobs to two companies. Both seem to be technical companies, so I'd imagine they want more than kids still going through high school, huh. All are based in Redmond, Washington--not off-site stay-at-home testing.


Edit: Hmm!

I did find this job posting on one of their sites. It's for a bilingual French-English speaker. It just says you need good writing skills and the ability to speak and write in both languages.

Here's their job description.

Product Testers test development software, identify programming errors and anomalies, evaluate product for content guidelines, and document testing phases of bug checks. Testers document the audible or visual bugs through written and oral description. Bilingual testers will also check French dialogue and in-game text game for correct spelling and grammar. Strong written and oral English and French skills are a must. Product Testers may assist in proofreading manuals or documents in French. Product Testers must be detailed and be highly analytical. Testers are required to sit for long periods of time (up to three hours) and perform repetitive and monotonous tasks. Product Testing is not simply playing video games. Be aware that the development software being tested may include software of an adult nature.

$12.50 an hour. Not shabby pay for something that just requires writing skills in two languages.

=) Just researching for the sake of knowing. I've got other career paths that interest me more at the moment.

[Moguri]

Lovely! *grins* I could actually apply me being bilingual! Well Now, I just need a bloody green card! *chuckles*
-Mog

[Brithor]

Hehehe, I remember watching Popular Mechanics For Kids way back, they once showed what it was to be a NOA game tester...yeah, pretty awesome. I remember this guy was sitting there playing Starfox 64 all day long... and getting payed for it.

[G_D]

Ok, I know this is really off-topic and doesn't *exactly* fit here, but I don't want to make a new thread for it:

When did this happen (http://cube.ign.com/objects/535/535845.html) (besides the obvious March 2004 as stated in the link), and why didn't I ever know about it?

Just when I thought I knew every game for the 'Cube that I wanted play but hadn't yet.



More on-topic, I've heard that testing games is actually a pretty rough job. Pretty much anything that you are *forced* to do, even if you enjoy it, becomes hard work after a while.

[SilverStar]

Ok, I know this is really off-topic and doesn't *exactly* fit here, but I don't want to make a new thread for it:

When did this happen (http://cube.ign.com/objects/535/535845.html) (besides the obvious March 2004 as stated in the link), and why didn't I ever know about it?

Just when I thought I knew every game for the 'Cube that I wanted play but hadn't yet.



More on-topic, I've heard that testing games is actually a pretty rough job. Pretty much anything that you are *forced* to do, even if you enjoy it, becomes hard work after a while.

Only the head testers actually get to play the games.. everyone else, is forced to perform the same menial action a million times over, in a million ways, each one only slightly different from the last, to see if it breaks anything.

[RealFolkBlues]

Testing kind of depends on the developer you're working for, but for the most part, it's gonna be eight hour shifts of playing one game at a time simply looking for glitches and not getting paid dick. Be that as it may, it's a very simple way to get into the industry (hardly any credentials are necessary most of the time,) and testers are often in such demand that they will take applicants right off the street.

[Penfold]

Only the head testers actually get to play the games.. everyone else, is forced to perform the same menial action a million times over, in a million ways, each one only slightly different from the last, to see if it breaks anything.

That's divergent to what I've heard from friends who are game testers...then again they're loc testers, so that could be the difference (though those positions can still be quite tedious apparantly...being bilingual is the best way to secure a job like that). Also, I've only heard of one time that any of my tester friends had gotten a free game out of a contract (you have to be a full-timer to get free stuff usually, from what they said) and they didn't receive it till after the game hit retail anyway. Different companies have different policies, but I wouldn't get your hopes up about that. Plus, personally I'd need to get more than 10-15/hr if they expect me to commute every day across the 520 :-P (better off where I am now in pretty much every way).

Anyway, G_D, MGS:TS is awesome ;). Since I hadn't played MGS on the original Playstation, it was a pretty awesome way to get introduced to the franchise.

[KWarp]

Ok, I know this is really off-topic and doesn't *exactly* fit here, but I don't want to make a new thread for it:

When did this happen (http://cube.ign.com/objects/535/535845.html) (besides the obvious March 2004 as stated in the link), and why didn't I ever know about it?

Just when I thought I knew every game for the 'Cube that I wanted play but hadn't yet.

I found the game at Blockbuster for $15. :-D


I'm addicted to the Everybody Votes channel.:shock:
Virtual Console needs more Kirby.

[SilverStar]

Apparently there's a whole "wave" of games on the horizon, some of which possibly haven't even been announced yet, to take advantage of the WiiConnect service. They're just waiting for Nintendo to give the go-ahead and launch Pokemon, so they can start getting them out there.

http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/03172007/22/wave_of_nintendo_wii_online_games_in_next_6_months

[KWarp]

I'm irritated. One whole month and I still can't find Wii Play on store shelves.
Typically when a game sells like hotcakes I head over to a store that isn't associated with selling videogames (ie Circuit City) and find the games I'm looking for there. In Wii Play's case it sells out especially quickly there. I'm out of ideas.:whatevaa:

[Fire in the Hole]

Call every store that carries it every morning. If they've got it, ask if they can put it on hold for you. If you know someone that works at one of these stores, have them give you a call whenever they get a shipment in. Work out a quick text signal they can fire off or something. Just pull out all the stops you can in terms of communication.

[SirChadlyOC]

I'm irritated. One whole month and I still can't find Wii Play on store shelves.
Typically when a game sells like hotcakes I head over to a store that isn't associated with selling videogames (ie Circuit City) and find the games I'm looking for there. In Wii Play's case it sells out especially quickly there. I'm out of ideas.:whatevaa:

Actually, I've heard that the game ISN'T on store shelves at electronic stores (Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.). Because the game comes with a Wiimote, the box is huge. Because the box is huge, it doesn't fit into the security cases they have for the games to prevent theft. Therefore, the game is held in the back rooms and you have to ask an associate for the game, and they deliver it from the back. I don't know if you've been asking a lot of questions or just looking for it, but that may be your problem.

[atmuh]

the game sucks dont buy it

[Bahamut]

Agreed, you're much better off just buying the remote by itself than Wii Play. It's not even worth $10 in my book. If you really want to buy it though, just order it through Amazon.com (and of course from here: Amazon Outlet - OverClocked ReMix (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/../amazon/) )

[KWarp]

No way, I want the whole package and I don't want to pay any premiums to get it.

[Bahamut]

Oh, you missed out by a few days then - amazon had them in stock and were shipping. The game is really horrible though. If I bought Wii Play for the remote, I'd be pretty pissed at how bad it is.

[Penfold]

No way, I want the whole package and I don't want to pay any premiums to get it.

Hmm, I've seen it around here quite a bit. At one Bestbuy I've seen it at, they had it in a little security cage instead of actually on the shelf and it was in a glass shelf behind the counter at one Gamestop.

But yeah, like everyone has said, it's basically just a tech demo and is unfortunate they made it in a way that it has very little replay value (bought it for a friend, we played it once, and proceeded to stick it on the shelf since playing it once felt like enough [or just sounded unappealing to play again]). Then again, it's just $10 - nothing to lose sleep over :razz:. Anyway, just throwin' my thoughts on it out there.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Excitebike (NES)
Beyond Oasis (Genesis)
Splatterhouse (T-16)

[Red Shadow]

when oh when will we ever get earthbound?

[Mr.Roboto]

when oh when will we ever get earthbound?

RIGHT NOW! (http://www.rpgamer.com/games/other/wii/opoona/opoonamov.html)

...Sadly no.But this RPG from Koei certainly has a Earthboundish vibe to it.I think it my simply be from the Title Screen and the monsters though.

[Ray Falling]

Despite the fact that Wii stuff is sold out almost everywere and there only being a hand full of titles available anyway: why is there still so little shelf-space reserved for Nintendo?

Now, I live in a small town, in a small province, in a small country so that could explain, but how is the situation over where you guys are?

It feels so weird seeing Nintendo have only 3 shelves, which can each hold no more than 5 games.
Even worse is that it has move away from the other consoles and is now lost between cheap DVD's. T__T That doesn't make sense to me...(well it does counting the above mentioned factors).

*sigh*

[KakTheInfected]

Just popped in Goddess of Dawn...I am ready to lose days of my life to this game. The intro and opening music is just amazing.

[Penfold]

Just popped in Goddess of Dawn...I am ready to lose days of my life to this game. The intro and opening music is just amazing.

Nice, I'd like to know how it is. I'm really hoping Sothe isn't such a panzey in this one. Also kinda curious if they added more FMVs to this than PoR.

[KakTheInfected]

He's definetly not a pansy. He takes a guard out pretty violently in an FMV. He looks much older and mature too.

The graphics look pretty nice too and there is a flair to everything now. Fights are actually fun to watch.

[Soma]

Just popped in Goddess of Dawn...I am ready to lose days of my life to this game. The intro and opening music is just amazing.
Forgive my Stupidity but what is Goddess of Dawn? a Wii game? i've never heard of it.

[Penfold]

Forgive my Stupidity but what is Goddess of Dawn? a Wii game? i've never heard of it.

It's the new Fire Emblem game for Wii. May not sound too familiar cuz it's not out here yet (in fact, no release date has been issued here yet as far as I know but I'm hoping for it to come out by summer).

[Brithor]

Despite the fact that Wii stuff is sold out almost everywere and there only being a hand full of titles available anyway: why is there still so little shelf-space reserved for Nintendo?

Now, I live in a small town, in a small province, in a small country so that could explain, but how is the situation over where you guys are?

It feels so weird seeing Nintendo have only 3 shelves, which can each hold no more than 5 games.
Even worse is that it has move away from the other consoles and is now lost between cheap DVD's. T__T That doesn't make sense to me...(well it does counting the above mentioned factors).

*sigh*

Same happens here.
But you got to remember Nintendo is a kiddy company!

[I-n-j-i-n]

Maybe it has to do with how there aren't too many notable games for the Wii yet aside from their typically great Nintendo lineup. Why waste space when you can only sell Nintendo games and still make a lot of profit? This is why I feel that Nintendo being too successful at their own game could be sorta bad in that sense.

[KakTheInfected]

So, I played 4 chapters of Goddess of Dawn and decided I should check out Tiger Woods.

Holy shit, I am so addicted to this game. It's amazing how much more satisfying swinging the Wiimote is than just pressing buttons. It's a shame the game looks like piss (Wii Sports golf looks better) but goddamn is it fun to play.

[Bahamut]

NiGHTS sequel is official for the Wii: http://www.gametab.com/news/850197/

[SilverStar]

NiGHTS sequel is official for the Wii: http://www.gametab.com/news/850197/

Not quite. No names were dropped, no info was given, no quotes were made. It was just an "anonymous source" who "confirmed" the speculation.

Still a very high probability, but currently not confirmed in any way, shape, or form.