Nintendo Wii

[KakTheInfected]

Awhile ago Hideo Kojima played Brawl and said he would be surprised if it wasn't finished already.

I'm positive Brawl is going to come out before Galaxy and Prime 3.

[PriZm]

Wii Play blows all ass - it's more worthwhile to buy the remote separately.

OK thanks.

[watkinzez]

Aw crap. Rayman Raving Rabbids 2. (http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=10441)
This effectively makes Michel Ancel a prisoner for another year or so. So much for BG&E 2 hope. http://remod.cakearmy.org/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif

[Dhsu]

OK thanks.
Don't listen to Bahamut, he hates fun.

[Bahamut]

Don't listen to Bahamut, he hates fun.

:lol:

Blasted 10 character limit

[Wipomatic]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6545/dawnoftheseconddayym9.jpg


http://www.smashbros.com/

[linkspast]

I love that...

[Neo Samus]

Tick....Tock....Tick....Tock....

They love torturing us, don't they?

[The Mutericator]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/140/dawnofthefirstdaybl6.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/

Man, I remember doing that SO LONG AGO... I can't even remember what it was for, either the Wii launch or E3 or something...

[The Damned]

It was the E3 debut of the Wii controller.

I remember it well.

[The Mutericator]

It was the E3 debut of the Wii controller.

I remember it well.

Ah, thanks. I sort of wish the thread hadn't gotten deleted, but all good things come to an end, I guess.

[Wipomatic]

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9092/dawnofthefinaldayep0.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/

[supremespleen]

Mario Party 8 coming out on the 29th. That one totally snuck up on me.

[AMT]

Anyone know what time it'll be opened? Midnight in Japan?

[linkspast]

Anyone know what time it'll be opened? Midnight in Japan?

I think so. It says Japan time... which Is sooner right?

[Thalzon]

I think so. It says Japan time... which Is sooner right?

They don't call it the land of the rising sun for nothing, you know.

[watkinzez]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=18179

Apparently we'll be seeing Paper Mario on VC sometime this month. The ROM for that one is really glitchy, so I'll be happy to pick it up. Cartridge copies go for more than $15 anyway.

[Dark Chocobo]

Anyone know what time it'll be opened? Midnight in Japan?

If that's the case, it'll be updated at...10 AM Central in the U.S, provided my cell phone's world clock is correct.

[KWarp]

Wii has been doing pretty well for itself. I can't believe it's still selling out. 3rd-parties are having similar problems snagging Wii System Developer Kits. I wish they'd quit porting junk over though.

I have a Wii game backlog. Never had that before with Gamecube. Very happy. :-D

[watkinzez]

So apparently this game.. called Metroid Prime 3.. is coming out on August 20.

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=12200

I wonder what that date was in lieu of.. some other shooter in its third installment..

..oh, and Battalion Wars 2 in September.

[Wipomatic]

If that's the case, it'll be updated at...10 AM Central in the U.S, provided my cell phone's world clock is correct.

From what I can gather, the numbers have been changing at about 4pm GMT. I'm not sure how that translates.

[Neo Samus]

Metroid Prime 3 August 20? I'm so getting that!! Now how about that Smash Bros. info we are diying for!!!

[Zombie]

I have a feeling Metroid Prime 3 is going to be another one of those games that I play over and over again. I'm exited.

[Penfold]

w00t Prime 3! Hopefully it'll be available for preorder soon. Also, RE4 for Wii on June 19 (I didn't realize until now that it has a solid release date) and I'll definitely be getting that.

[The Mutericator]

I'm exited.

Over and out.

[Bigfoot]

I have a feeling Metroid Prime 3 is going to be another one of those games that I play over and over again. I'm exited.

I sure hope so. They said they weren't as happy as they wanted to be with the sales of MP2, so they wanted to make this one the best one.

[The Damned]

Hmm...maybe I should go finish Prime 2 someday...

I missed one fucking energy tank, and that damn fish boss still kicks my ass. And I saved after I entered that area, so I can't go back for it until I defeat it.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today (unconfirmed since I'm at work)

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (SNES) - They just want us excited about Pirates for the movie this weekend
Streets of Rage 2 (GEN) - I had an awful dream, there were streets, and rage...
Blazing Lazers (T16) - Another shmup? Go ask The Coop about it

[Dexie]

North American Virtual Console releases today (unconfirmed since I'm at work)

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (SNES) - They just want us excited about Pirates for the movie this weekend
Streets of Rage 2 (GEN) - I had an awful dream, there were streets, and rage...
Blazing Lazers (T16) - Another shmup? Go ask The Coop about it

First time I find myself wanting to DL all three of the VC's monday releases. Damn.

[Neo Samus]

I've heard Blazing Lazers is an amazing shooter. I have enough to get one, but I want them all.....damn decisions!!!

[KakTheInfected]

It's already been talked about but METROID METROID METROID METROID!

[Bigfoot]

It's already been talked about but METROID METROID METROID METROID!

I don't think it's been talked about enough.

METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID

I remember reading in a past NP mag that the game looks a lot better than what it did at E3, like it's on a totally different engine. That sounds hard to believe, but if it's true then that'll be loads of awesome.

[atmuh]

i am quite happy about metroid
i get to play through before school starts

[Imagist]

i am quite happy about metroid
i get to play through before school starts

Same here I think, although I may actually be playing it while at school before classes start. Or at my brother's house before I can move in.

[Neo Samus]

I'm debating if I should even try to beat Prime 2. That game was awesome, but a royal pain in the ass!

[atmuh]

I'm debating if I should even try to beat Prime 2. That game was awesome, but a royal pain in the ass!

beat it

[vega12]

I agree. Everything but the collecting of artifacts, or whatever they were in that game was fun. I just dislike those "collect X number of Y items to continue" games.

[Penfold]

I don't think it's been talked about enough.

METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID

I remember reading in a past NP mag that the game looks a lot better than what it did at E3, like it's on a totally different engine. That sounds hard to believe, but if it's true then that'll be loads of awesome.

Yeah, that'd be pretty cool, though the past 2 Metroid Primes were pretty enough for me :-P. Anyway, I'm actually pretty happy about the August release date...I hope to have my new tv and receiver by then (the one I'm looking at automatically upconverts analog signals to 720p, so I'll be curious to see how that'll affect the picture quality of regular dvds and Wii games).

[The Mutericator]

beat it

Ditto. Ending is awesome.

[watkinzez]

North American Virtual Console releases today (unconfirmed since I'm at work)

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (SNES) - They just want us excited about Pirates for the movie this weekend
Streets of Rage 2 (GEN) - I had an awful dream, there were streets, and rage...
Blazing Lazers (T16) - Another shmup? Go ask The Coop about it

I hadn't thought of that spin for DKC2.
Once again, Diddy's Kong Quest = one of the best platformers ever. Seriously, that's an awesome weekly lineup.

[Neo Samus]

Ok, I'll take your word for it Atmuh and Pzykotikfreak.

[atmuh]

rumor
so theyre making a red steel sequel
big deal
it will be online
lets hope that more games get announced like that

[Bahamut]

Red Steel's controls fail. I don't see any reason to get piqued for that unless the sensitivity is put to mortal realms.

[JoeFu]

Well, Ubi can make the game better as they have more experience with the system now. I liked Red Steel, even though I only played a bit, the controls weren't bad when I got used to it. The only thing I didn't like was the sword fighting.



Also..


METROID IN LESS THAN THREE MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[atmuh]

oh yeah and i still stand by what i said way back
one of the greatest video game pleasures you will have is being able to rip off the shields of the space pirates with your own two hands

[KakTheInfected]

If it wasn't for the shitty ass turning, Red Steel would have been an awesome game. I somehow doubt the sequel is going to feature the same control issues...

[SilverStar]

So..

Geometry Wars, coming to Wii. With a single-player campaign and online modes.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/kotaku-magu/geometry-wars-goes-nintendo-262350.php

[watkinzez]

So..

Geometry Wars, coming to Wii. With a single-player campaign and online modes.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/kotaku-magu/geometry-wars-goes-nintendo-262350.php

A campaign who what now?
Even if I didn't already own it I'd wouldn't be interested in a boxed copy of this. Nintendo had better hop to it on their online service.

[KWarp]

$20 is the ceiling for me purchasing Geometry Wars at retail stores. I'd much rather download it online for $10 or less.

[SilverStar]

You know.. One small thing I'd like to see Nintendo implement in a future firmware upgrade, is an option to get rid of those bloody low battery warning messages. It's alright the first time they pop up, but getting hit with them every 2-5 minutes(usually depending on the game), when your batteries still have HOURS of use left in them? Fucking annoying.

[KakTheInfected]

Um...don't only certain games do that? I don't think it has anything to do with the firmware really.

[SilverStar]

Um...don't only certain games do that? I don't think it has anything to do with the firmware really.

Then I must have really bad luck, since Zelda, Super Paper Mario, Godfather, Excite Truck, Rayman and Prince of Persia all do that.. that I've noticed. Those are the only ones I've played when my batteries have been low.

I think every game has it set in so there's some sort of on screen warning when the batteries are getting low. I just wish they had a firmware setting to completely override that, so I don't get bothered by it at all. I know when my batteries are low. I can see the blue LED flashing when it gets too low, and I can always just hit the home button to see the status on-screen if I want to.

But, with the exception of Rayman, all the games bring up a damn status window complaining about the low batteries, constantly. More than once it actually corrupted my game in Godfather, because it decided to do it while I was in the middle of saving. With Rayman, it just flashes a little low battery icon in the corner of the screen.

[megadave]

I think I'm going to get a charge kit. I'm tired of buying batteries every two weeks.

By the way, any Monkey Ball fans here (people who've played the earlier monkey ball games)? Is the 'new' one worth the dough?

[KakTheInfected]

More than once it actually corrupted my game in Godfather, because it decided to do it while I was in the middle of saving.

Really? That's a huge fuck up on EA's part...

[Zup]

I'm tired of buying batteries every two weeks.



There's this place called Costco...they have cheap, bulk batteries...yeah. I've barely run through two or three packages since I bought the Wii.

[Ruth Loose]

I think I'm going to get a charge kit. I'm tired of buying batteries every two weeks.

By the way, any Monkey Ball fans here (people who've played the earlier monkey ball games)? Is the 'new' one worth the dough?

It really isn't worth it if you want to play the actual Monkey Ball game single-player. The sensitivity of the Wii Controller is so high it is near impossible to play and have fun. I recommend Super Monkey Ball 2 if you want to play the single-player game if you can still find it in your local store. On the other hand the multi-player is the best I have found this side of Wario Ware.

[KakTheInfected]

So, I acquired Mario Strikers today and it works fine on my Wii...as does the online play. I'm quite happy with this, but am totally shitty at the game...

[KWarp]

So, I acquired Mario Strikers today and it works fine on my Wii...as does the online play. I'm quite happy with this, but am totally shitty at the game...
..IT'S OUT ALREADY!? :shock:

[WesPip]

..IT'S OUT ALREADY!? :shock:
That was my thought exactly.

[Imagist]

Tomorrow's the release date in Europe.

[NinjaN]

Guess who's gonna get it tomorrow...

IT'S A ME!

But, unfortunatley, I'm not at home this weekend, so I can play monday evening at best...

I hope there will be some tournaments!
If not, I will try to set one up on my own (for Europe only... ;-( )

@Kak:
How did you get it already?
Tomorrow is the release date in Europe where it hits first.
Did some store break the street date or do you have a "good friend" in some shop?

[KakTheInfected]

Yes...frieeeeeends.

After a good few hours of playing I can definetly say it's an awesome game. The online has worked flawlessly so far except one thing...and it's pretty obvious what that is.

[Smoke]

Got my Strike on earlier today as well. Officially it's not out until tomorrow, but some stores are selling early(I walked in, asked for it, and bought it)

Pretty entertaining so far, matches are short enough to keep them interesting, and the online gaming is fairly lag-free.

[The Damned]

Hey KWarp! Watch this (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/24/wii-holographic-projector-spotted-in-illusory-ubisoft-trailer/). I think you'll enjoy the ending. :<

[KakTheInfected]

Strikers friend code: 012985 487111

Yay, my first GAME friend code...I would cherish this if I didn't hate the fucking things so bad. If anyone adds me, note that I'm in the US so there is a little lag to deal with (it's really not that bad, but just warning).

[KWarp]

Hey KWarp! Watch this (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/24/wii-holographic-projector-spotted-in-illusory-ubisoft-trailer/). I think you'll enjoy the ending. :<
Yeah yeah. ;[

Next-gen buddy, next-gen. Around 2010.

[The Author]

Yeah yeah. ;[

Next-gen buddy, next-gen. Around 2010.

Maybe as a add-on...

[Bahamut]

Strikers friend code: 012985 487111

Yay, my first GAME friend code...I would cherish this if I didn't hate the fucking things so bad. If anyone adds me, note that I'm in the US so there is a little lag to deal with (it's really not that bad, but just warning).

I still think the XBox 360 16-digit Live codes are worse (for buying stuff on XBLA, and for activating a 1 year subscription).

[Amayirot Akago]

Picked up Mario Strikers Charged today as well. So far I've completed the training; the game's not half bad, but the controls take some getting used to.

Now if only my dad would switch off his downloads so I could try out the online mode already...

[Penfold]

(From an article on IGN) New Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles trailer (http://www.ffccnews.jp/2007/05/85.html)!! I'm pretty impressed, it has definitely undergone a great change since the Gamecube game and shows an upgrade in the single player experience. I'm still really hoping it'll have similar multiplayer to the Gamecube game, since that was the reason I really liked the original.

[atmuh]

(From an article on IGN) New Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles trailer (http://www.ffccnews.jp/2007/05/85.html)!! I'm pretty impressed, it has definitely undergone a great change since the Gamecube game and shows an upgrade in the single player experience. I'm still really hoping it'll have similar multiplayer to the Gamecube game, since that was the reason I really liked the original.

yeah except the first one sucked because it had absolutely no story
fun multiplayer but not enough to get me to like it


although 4 swords had no story but the multiplayer was too good to pass up

[Critical Hit]

It really isn't worth it if you want to play the actual Monkey Ball game single-player. The sensitivity of the Wii Controller is so high it is near impossible to play and have fun. I recommend Super Monkey Ball 2 if you want to play the single-player game if you can still find it in your local store. On the other hand the multi-player is the best I have found this side of Wario Ware.

Huh, that's too bad to hear. I was wondering about the new monkey ball game myself...I was playing the first one just this morning, actually. Oh well, maybe I'll rent it and see for myself.

[AarowSwift]

I recommend forgetting about Monkeyball. I rented Banana Blitz and the picky controls + spazzy camera made it decidedly unfun. If you want a great roll-maze game I strongly recommend checking out Kororinpa Marble Mania. For something in the same vein but quite different in play you should also check out Mercury Meltdown Revolution.

[KWarp]

I recommend forgetting about Monkeyball. I rented Banana Blitz and the picky controls + spazzy camera made it decidedly unfun. If you want a great roll-maze game I strongly recommend checking out Kororinpa Marble Mania. For something in the same vein but quite different in play you should also check out Mercury Meltdown Revolution.
I don't recommend Kororinpa, you can beat the whole game in 3 hours. Mercury Meltdown comes out in a couple weeks at $30, and reviews seem overwhelmingly positive.

[Critical Hit]

I don't recommend Kororinpa, you can beat the whole game in 3 hours. Mercury Meltdown comes out in a couple weeks at $30, and reviews seem overwhelmingly positive.

Thanks, I'll have to check that out. Maybe rent marble mania...At any rate the virtual console is keeping me busy enough with fun games that I haven't gotten to experience before, and the original monkey ball is still challenging enough for me that I could always go back to it for the 9,999 play point challenge or something if I get truly bored. I also didn't play monkey ball 2 all that thoroughly, so I may revisit that at some point in the future. Plenty to keep me busy until Metroid Prime 3. :-)

[Black Mage]

For the Wii enthusiast who has everything and still wants more accessories to make that playing experience extra realistic.

http://www.notcot.com/images/wiistraponmain.jpg
Review (http://www.notcot.com/archives/2007/05/wii_strap_ons_r.php).

http://www.notcot.com/images/wiistrapon1-thumb.jpg
And the best part...they're compatible with the Wü, and here I thought there were no accessories for the Wü.

[Ray Falling]

I like how that firebird logo seems to be made in Illustrator using the whirl tool on an orange shape *whahahahaha* T__T; Very official.

They better make one for DBZ too! I expect to be able to shoot balls of energy out of my controller to make for a more realistic experience >_>.

[Black Mage]

I like how that firebird logo seems to be made in Illustrator using the whirl tool on an orange shape *whahahahaha* T__T; Very official.

Well they are from Hong Kong...so that explains a lot. Personally, I love the Wü logo. :<

[Broken]

I hope this (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171547.html?tag=latestnews;title;3) stays out of America. It smells of bad marketing schemes.

In other news, Brawl has been reconfirmed for 2007. So, I guess we can expect it sometime in the next 7 months.......

[The Damned]

I hope this (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171547.html?tag=latestnews;title;3) stays out of America. It smells of bad marketing schemes.
What the fuck is with campaigns for Europe being so stupid? I've seen the Sony ones, I've seen the MS ones, and now the Nintendo one.

Do Europeans actually like these sort of ads?

[Bahamut]

What the fuck is with campaigns for Europe being so stupid? I've seen the Sony ones, I've seen the MS ones, and now the Nintendo one.

Do Europeans actually like these sort of ads?

Well, it IS Europe :-P

[Rawk Hawk]

In other news, Brawl has been reconfirmed for 2007. So, I guess we can expect it sometime in the next 7 months.......

F***ing sweet. Didn't know that.
This is gonna be a rough year for funds though... uuugh.
Corruption in August
Strikers in July
Mario Party in just a couple days
Galaxy some time this fall
now Brawl as well? Jeeeze. I'd better get a job.

[Wipomatic]

What the fuck is with campaigns for Europe being so stupid? I've seen the Sony ones, I've seen the MS ones, and now the Nintendo one.

Do Europeans actually like these sort of ads?

I certainly don't. It sounds fucking stupid.

[KakTheInfected]

Some sad news to report on Strikers...if your opponent throws a hissy fit and disconnects because he's starting to lose, you don't get credited with a win. You get to keep your points from the game, but not the 10 points you gain from a victory.

Nintendo has to wise up and realize there are douchebags out there who can't play these games properly. If this is going to turn into another "I'm losing so I'll just disconnect" game it's not going to live very long...

[Black Mage]

I hope this (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171547.html?tag=latestnews;title;3) stays out of America. It smells of bad marketing schemes.

Well...it's creative, I'll give it that. Stupid, but creative.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

ActRaiser (SNES) - Part platform, part RPG, all classic
Kid Chameleon (GEN) - If you took the mask-gameply from Majora's Mask, and made it a platformer in the early days of the Genesis
J.J. and Jeff (T16) - Hey, let's take a game that has the same gameplay as Adventure Island, but when we port it to the US take out all the crude humor that set it apart in the first place

[Imagist]

Some sad news to report on Strikers...if your opponent throws a hissy fit and disconnects because he's starting to lose, you don't get credited with a win. You get to keep your points from the game, but not the 10 points you gain from a victory.

Nintendo has to wise up and realize there are douchebags out there who can't play these games properly. If this is going to turn into another "I'm losing so I'll just disconnect" game it's not going to live very long...

You don't get a win, but the other person loses points.

Also, I was just reading the Wikipedia article on Strikers and it gave a very plausible reason for using individual friend codes: each friend code is attached to a specific Mii, not console/game combo, so you can have multiple stats for multiple people all on the same console. If everything just used the console's Wii code, this would not be possible.

Although a still-better solution would be to attach universal friend codes to the Miis instead of making each game-specific.

[Soma]

So there's this rumor that a new grittier Zelda and a new Mario Kart for Wii are in development. http://www.n-galaxy.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=511
If that's true then I'll be very pleased. but alas it's probably BS. but an interesting read.

[Imagist]

Well, we've known those have been "in development" for quite some time... a lot of the article is simply making a big deal out of previously confirmed vague statements and such. However, the key to calling it fake is that he claimed motion-sensing control was an option in Brawl's main gameplay. We've been told Brawl will feature motion-sensing control to some degree, but not in the main gameplay. Also, as someone mentioned in the comments on that page, if he knew the next new character and really wanted to "keep us informed," he would have been out with it. As it is you know he's pussyfooting his way around to keep from being revealed as the big phony he is come the next public announcement, probably at/after E3.

[Merk]

So there's this rumor that a new grittier Zelda and a new Mario Kart for Wii are in development. http://www.n-galaxy.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=511
If that's true then I'll be very pleased. but alas it's probably BS. but an interesting read.

What's more BS, that article or the site linked on that article http://www.howtogetfreewiipoints.com/

[Antipode]

If that article is true, the Prime 3 section is enough to make me happy for like a year.

[wormguy]

I highly doubt that that article is true. The Brawl section was already proven to be fake.

And I can't picture Nintendo doing an extremely dark, gritty, ultra-realistic Zelda.

[Soma]

I highly doubt that that article is true. The Brawl section was already proven to be fake.

And I can't picture Nintendo doing an extremely dark, gritty, ultra-realistic Zelda.
Yeah me either. But right after i beat Twilight Princess i was thinking about how i wanted to play a realistic gritty more mature story. Traditional Zelda story is getting old to me even though the gameplay is still aces. Didn't Miyamoto promise that TP was the last Zelda that was going to be in the OoT game play style? something like that.

[NeoForte]

So there's this rumor that a new grittier Zelda and a new Mario Kart for Wii are in development. http://www.n-galaxy.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=511
If that's true then I'll be very pleased. but alas it's probably BS. but an interesting read.

Fake news is faaaaaaake. I read the post in Neo GAF, if this was real he'd be breaking a lot of NDAs and Nintendo would have been all over this. Also the fact the source of the rumor is questioned repeatedly by the higher members proves this isn't true (also the fact he hasn't been asked by Nintendo to pull the info off is weird). There might be some truth but honestly take anything you hear with a grain of salt. Nintendo is known for its super secrecy so anything is possible.

Edit: both Miyamoto and Aonuma have said that TP would be the last Zelda to play like OoT. DS Zelda is the first in the line of more intuitive controlled Zelda's coming out to bring back sales in Japan and to bring in more casual gamers while I guess keeping the hardcore players in mind.

[AMT]

Honestly, I'm glad that's the last traditional Zelda game. It was an amazing game, but I don't think the series could take another game following the same formula without getting stale. I'd be totally up for a reimagining of the series, that could lead to a really cool game.

[Rambo]

Just picked up a copy of Mario Party 8. I can't play it for another 5 hours though, cuz I've got a golf tee-off time very shortly. :cry: In any case, I've already arranged 3 friends to come over to test drive the hell out of it. A 100 turn game or something sounds to be in order... if there is one. lol, it better as hell still have immediate multi player available.

[Imagist]

Just picked up a copy of Mario Party 8. I can't play it for another 5 hours though, cuz I've got a golf tee-off time very shortly. :cry: In any case, I've already arranged 3 friends to come over to test drive the hell out of it. A 100 turn game or something sounds to be in order... if there is one. lol, it better as hell still have immediate multi player available.

I'm hoping I can pick this up today, and should have an opportunity to party all night within the next couple of weeks. It sounds like it could be very exciting. It only requires the Wiimote, right? I don't have 4 Nunchuks.

[megadave]

Honestly, I'm glad that's the last traditional Zelda game. It was an amazing game, but I don't think the series could take another game following the same formula without getting stale. I'd be totally up for a reimagining of the series, that could lead to a really cool game.

I agree. It's time to move on. Maybe they should give Zelda a break for a while in general. But I would be sick if it were an MMO.

By the way, does anyone think that Malo Mart (the one in Castle Town) is horribly disturbing? Seriously, they're all dancing and the music is annoying. I bought that one item and ran like hell.

[Dhsu]

Best part in the entire game.

[AMT]

Malo Mart is by far the most awesome room in the entire game.

MMO isn't exactly what I was thinking, but we could at least ditch the whole "Hyrule revolves around a central field" thing, and have a different general progression than collect 3 items, get Master Sword. It'd be cool to actually journey somewhere, a la FFX, instead of just going back and forth over a smaller area. I'd even be up for a reimagining of Link, like he could be a soldier in the Hylian army, or something like that. Maybe instead of wearing the green garb the entire game, and knowing you're the hero, maybe you could have something else, and not get the tunic until right before the final boss. I'm just rambling.

[Neo Samus]

Just picked up a copy of Mario Party 8. I can't play it for another 5 hours though, cuz I've got a golf tee-off time very shortly. :cry: In any case, I've already arranged 3 friends to come over to test drive the hell out of it. A 100 turn game or something sounds to be in order... if there is one. lol, it better as hell still have immediate multi player available.

I have a gamefly so I'm hoping to get it by the end of the week. My fiancee is really excited to play this one, as am I. I think this might be one of the most original Mario Party games yet.

[The Mutericator]

Malo Mart is by far the most awesome room in the entire game.

MMO isn't exactly what I was thinking, but we could at least ditch the whole "Hyrule revolves around a central field" thing, and have a different general progression than collect 3 items, get Master Sword. It'd be cool to actually journey somewhere, a la FFX, instead of just going back and forth over a smaller area. I'd even be up for a reimagining of Link, like he could be a soldier in the Hylian army, or something like that. Maybe instead of wearing the green garb the entire game, and knowing you're the hero, maybe you could have something else, and not get the tunic until right before the final boss. I'm just rambling.

FFX's linearity was the exact reason I so despised it. Please, please, please don't let that happen to Zelda - an overworld is a beautiful thing indeed.

Also, fortunately none of your straight-from-a-fanfic ideas will happen: Miyamoto knows better.

[The Damned]

Also, fortunately none of your straight-from-a-fanfic ideas will happen: Miyamoto knows better.
ten chars.

[WesPip]

Just mentioning, Malo Mart is indeed the best room in the entire game.
No contest.

[KWarp]

Some sad news to report on Strikers...if your opponent throws a hissy fit and disconnects because he's starting to lose, you don't get credited with a win. You get to keep your points from the game, but not the 10 points you gain from a victory.

Nintendo has to wise up and realize there are douchebags out there who can't play these games properly. If this is going to turn into another "I'm losing so I'll just disconnect" game it's not going to live very long...
Why not make a "non-competitive" mode where no wins or losses are counted?

EDIT: Yes Malo Mart is win.

Anyone have an opinion on Mario Party 8? I've seen pretty bad reviews.

[Zoola]

You bought it!
You were smart!
You bought it,
At Malo Mart!

[The Mutericator]

I'd be lying if I, too, didn't admit that I found Malo Mart to be at least moderately amusing.

[bouncerboy15]

Why not make a "non-competitive" mode where no wins or losses are counted?

EDIT: Yes Malo Mart is win.

Anyone have an opinion on Mario Party 8? I've seen pretty bad reviews.
Yeah...I would like to read someone's opinion on the game.

[AarowSwift]

I always conjure up voices for "text only" characters and for me, Ben Stein is the voice of Malo.

[SilverStar]

I always conjure up voices for "text only" characters and for me, Ben Stein is the voice of Malo.

Yeesh. That just sucks all the emotion out of.. wait, yeah. I can see what you mean.

[Citris]

Yeesh. That just sucks all the emotion out of.. wait, yeah. I can see what you mean.

you stole my avatar you bastard!

[Rambo]

Anyone have an opinion on Mario Party 8? I've seen pretty bad reviews.

Just played 5 hours with 3 other friends. Lots of fun. I find this one is better than any of the gamecube versions, not sure about them classics though. :P

I've only played the one game mode though (party). And to answer someones question, no you don't need nunchucks for party mode, but I'm pretty sure its required (or available) for one of the other game modes. There wasn't too much of a change in gameplay, aside from the majority of the mini-games being remote sensor related. The mini-games are all pretty kickass so far.

We played 2 maps, one pretty standard, the other with a REALLY cool design. Very original. The object of course is to get the most stars, but to get stars you must own hotels. There are 6 hotels around the map, and each one can be bought for as little as 1 coin. The next person however can outpay them and take possession and the star credit then belongs to them (both persons coins remain invested in the building under their names), and this continues. When a total investment from collective parties reaches 20 or 50 coins, the hotel increases to 2 and 3 star status... It gets pretty strategy based and is soooo much fun.

My only complaint is Bonus stars are no longer set! Which means even though I SMOKED everyone else in mini-games, and total coins, I got no bonus stars and LOST at the end because they're three randomized awards between (that i know of): most distance traveled, most red squares, most mini-games won, most items purchased, most items used and most coins.

lol, anyway, lots of fun so far. And likely a lot more to come for a while at least.

Link me a bad review and I'll let you know what I can agree with from it.
I still don't know anything about other game modes yet however. At least I can say its a great multi-player game, no question!

[atmuh]

the only mario party ive ever liked was mario party 1
i enjoy a game that gives me blisters

[Rambo]

the only mario party ive ever liked was mario party 1
i enjoy a game that gives me blisters

lmao. I know a friend with a permanent scar on the palm of their hand from that. So intense.
There's one mini-game I KNOW you'd like though. You must jerk a pop can (wiimote) for 10 seconds as much as you can up and down then have it make the biggest explosion. The shorter quicker strokes work best. And having 4 guys all sitting on a chouch doing this at the same time violently, looks hilarious.

[atmuh]

i have a scar from tug of war
and i lost

[WesPip]

i have a scar from tug of war
and i lost
Yeah, Tug of War was a bitch. Also, that rowing one in the liferaft.
And there was one other hand-killing minigame, but I forget what it was...

[linkspast]

I remember those blisters, many, many a blister. But do you guys remember when nintendo had those gloves for hand protection for sale?

[Red Shadow]

if you do it right you can get the one where you have to race to see how many thwomps you can set up to give you a nice raw thumb

[Imagist]

Forget hand-killing minigames... the original Mario Party was a controller-killer. My friends and I broke at least three joysticks back in the day... when they went limp you knew they'd been loved.

I just played a quick round of Mario Party 8 with my bro and it's kind of fun... the CPU had the cheapest luck, though, even on Easy. I'm thinking it'll be insanely awesome with four guys who are likely to punch each other for any minor victory. Can't wait to try that out.

[atmuh]

Yeah, Tug of War was a bitch. Also, that rowing one in the liferaft.
And there was one other hand-killing minigame, but I forget what it was...

lights out i think
it was single player and you had to pedal a bike
it was hardcore

[WesPip]

lights out i think
it was single player and you had to pedal a bike
it was hardcore
Yeah, that was the one.
Fucking lightbulb.

[wormguy]

Malo Mart is by far the most awesome room in the entire game.

MMO isn't exactly what I was thinking, but we could at least ditch the whole "Hyrule revolves around a central field" thing, and have a different general progression than collect 3 items, get Master Sword. It'd be cool to actually journey somewhere, a la FFX, instead of just going back and forth over a smaller area. I'd even be up for a reimagining of Link, like he could be a soldier in the Hylian army, or something like that. Maybe instead of wearing the green garb the entire game, and knowing you're the hero, maybe you could have something else, and not get the tunic until right before the final boss. I'm just rambling.

The whole idea behind the Zelda series is of exploration and having an open world. Sure, you can warp everywhere for convenience, but the game rewards you for walking or riding places by giving you heart pieces or bugs or other such things. So I'd have to say no to a more linear world.

I don't, however, mind the idea of a different progression of the storyline. I can always expect a slight plot twist after three dungeons and then get the Master Sword. Twilight Princess got knocked in a few reviews because of this.

So, basically, I wouldn't mind a few more twists and turns in the plot. I also wouldn't mind a little more mixing up of the missions - the escort mission and the saving of Colin in TP were on the right track, and I wouldn't be surprised to see group combat with larger numbers of enemies in a new Zelda game.

Speaking of combat, I loved the unlocking of new sword skills (the Stalfos teacher dude was just awesome) and I would like to see combat in Zelda expanded a bit more. Wind Waker introduced ideas that TP expanded on, and I'd like to see combat evolve a bit more.

Unfortunately, given Nintendo's ridiculous production cycles we probably won't see another Zelda game 'til the next console.

Wow, this was a really long post. My bad.

[HalcyonSpirit]

A different storyline progression in any future Zelda games would be nice. Same could be said about the temples. I sorta groaned when I realized that in TP, the first three temples, once again, were of the themes Forest, Mountain/Fire, and Water (in that order). And of course, the Master Sword after the first three temples.

I suppose it could be a case of "if it isn't broken, don't fix it," but that tends to lead to something becoming stale. Personally, I don't want that to happen to Zelda. I think it's good that they're going to go in a new direction with the games, whatever that may be.

That's all I'll say for now, since I try not to form any opinions of what should be in the next Zelda game until I've finished the current one. And unfortunately for me, I can no longer finish Twilight Princess right now unless I want to restart it from the beginning. You see, I inadvertently became the victim of the "cannon room bug" earlier today. I keep hearing that there's no way to fix it... I hope it isn't true, because I really don't want to restart my game after all the stuff I just got finished doing in it. Talk about bad luck.

[SilverStar]

A different storyline progression in any future Zelda games would be nice. Same could be said about the temples. I sorta groaned when I realized that in TP, the first three temples, once again, were of the themes Forest, Mountain/Fire, and Water (in that order). And of course, the Master Sword after the first three temples.

I suppose it could be a case of "if it isn't broken, don't fix it," but that tends to lead to something becoming stale. Personally, I don't want that to happen to Zelda. I think it's good that they're going to go in a new direction with the games, whatever that may be.

That's all I'll say for now, since I try not to form any opinions of what should be in the next Zelda game until I've finished the current one. And unfortunately for me, I can no longer finish Twilight Princess right now unless I want to restart it from the beginning. You see, I inadvertently became the victim of the "cannon room bug" earlier today. I keep hearing that there's no way to fix it... I hope it isn't true, because I really don't want to restart my game after all the stuff I just got finished doing in it. Talk about bad luck.

Go contact Nintendo!

http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/update-glitchy-twilight-princess-disc-send-it-back-254237.php

[Rambo]

Yeah, Tug of War was a bitch. Also, that rowing one in the liferaft.
And there was one other hand-killing minigame, but I forget what it was...

The worst one for me and my friends wasn't even a mini-game. It was the club house where you wound up the flyguy to see how many seconds he'd fly. Intense and painful competitions. As well as broken controllers as someone else pointed out.

[supremespleen]

So I'm really debating whether or not I want to get Pokemon battle revolution. On one hand, it'd be pretty cool to see all my Pokeymans in 3D. On the other hand, it's 50 bucks for stuff I can do on the DS and N64.

[AarowSwift]

So I'm really debating whether or not I want to get Pokemon battle revolution. On one hand, it'd be pretty cool to see all my Pokeymans in 3D. On the other hand, it's 50 bucks for stuff I can do on the DS and N64.

Well, I'll be buying it simply because I enjoy the spectacle.

[atmuh]

if it had a freakin single player adventure like the two gamecube ones i would
but it doesnt
its completely useless

[KakTheInfected]

I wouldn't get it. The special attacks look pretty nifty, but the Pokemon are stiff as hell. When they do Double Team, they zip back and forth quickly but don't move their legs (if they have any). For christ sake, the trainers don't even have voice acting. It's so half-assed and lazy it's insane.

The novelty of seeing the new Pokemon in 3D will wear off pretty quickly...just don't even bother with it.

[Ray Falling]

I wouldn't get it. The special attacks look pretty nifty, but the Pokemon are stiff as hell. When they do Double Team, they zip back and forth quickly but don't move their legs (if they have any). For christ sake, the trainers don't even have voice acting. It's so half-assed and lazy it's insane.

The novelty of seeing the new Pokemon in 3D will wear off pretty quickly...just don't even bother with it.

Really? That's terrible T__T, so basically nothing has changed since Pokemon Stadium 64.
I'm so sick of how they're treating the Pokemon franchise. Is it so hard to make a the proper 3D rpg we've all been asking for over the past so many years?

[SilverStar]

Really? That's terrible T__T, so basically nothing has changed since Pokemon Stadium 64.
I'm so sick of how they're treating the Pokemon franchise. Is it so hard to make a the proper 3D rpg we've all been asking for over the past so many years?

To Nintendo? Yes.

At least Pokemon Stadium 64 had the ability to play the actual Pokemon games, through.. wasn't it the transfer pack?

honestly, it doesn't even have to be a 3D RPG. High resolution sprites would work just fine. Even making it have some sort of semi-realtime fighting and making it multiplayer with your friends would be cool, making it a world almost like Diablo 2 in design, where you're not simply trying to race to beat everything, but instead can wander around.. almost like in the cartoon, where you take your time to actually do stuff, training your pokemon with friends, instead of just battling them against eachother for no real good reason.

[KakTheInfected]

Playing some of the RE4 Wii version...so far, the additions have been nothing but great. Being able to point and shoot makes the game a lot more fun.

The weird thing about the Japanese version though...it's censored, and I hope that won't be the case when it comes out in the US later this month. Shooting a guy in the head, seeing a massive blood explosion but having the head remain is odd. Also, I'm no expert in Japanese but it's obvious the subtitles rarely ever match what's actually being said (the spoken dialogue is still English). Wonder why that is.

[Zombie]

Playing some of the RE4 Wii version...so far, the additions have been nothing but great. Being able to point and shoot makes the game a lot more fun.

The weird thing about the Japanese version though...it's censored, and I hope that won't be the case when it comes out in the US later this month. Shooting a guy in the head, seeing a massive blood explosion but having the head remain is odd. Also, I'm no expert in Japanese but it's obvious the subtitles rarely ever match what's actually being said (the spoken dialogue is still English). Wonder why that is.

I believe other previous Resident Evils' have been censored in Japan too, but I don't know for sure. I hope the game isn't like that when it get over here. I'm greatly considering getting it. ;)

[Amayirot Akago]

I believe other previous Resident Evils' have been censored in Japan too, but I don't know for sure. I hope the game isn't like that when it get over here. I'm greatly considering getting it. ;)Doubt it; the censored head explosion was in the Japanese GC version as well.

[Dexie]

So I'm really debating whether or not I want to get Pokemon battle revolution. On one hand, it'd be pretty cool to see all my Pokeymans in 3D. On the other hand, it's 50 bucks for stuff I can do on the DS and N64.

It's got ten different stadiums that each have their own challenge. Beating all ten unlocks a second round for all of them that's even harder.

http://serebii.net/battle/colosseum.shtml

Between that and the character customization, and the ability to purchase some of the rare items in D/P, I'd say it's worth a buy. I'll be getting it, at least. Can't be worse than the GCN titles.

EDIT: And you can get a Surfing, Volt Tackling Pikachu.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (NES) - I AM ERROR
Milon's Secret Castle (NES) - I hope you're wearing the wriststraps, you'll be throwing the controller in frustration
Toe Jam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron (GEN) - The sequel takes a decidedly more platform approach
Dead Moon (T16) - This sounds like either a horror movie, or a Western, but since it's Turbografx-16, it's obviously a shmup.

[megadave]

Zelda 2 is underrated. It's actually a very well-designed game. I like it a lot. Gaining levels is fun, and there's a lot of strategy involved with the usage of spells. I can already see a lot of people buying this one, dying 100 times, and putting down the game because of supposed flaws, when the real culprit is the extreme difficulty.

And Milon's Secret Castle is hard as hell too. It would be a lot better if it had a password feature. Yet, the Wii sortof has 'save states', so it's not a big problem.

[Rambo]

God damn did I love Zelda II. But i never beat it and now my NES is kicking the can. I guess I'll buy for VC.... Freaking... Lava... level.. with invisible shit.... on the way to the last temple.... Gaaaaah.

[eternal Zero]

And you can get a Surfing, Volt Tackling Pikachu.

As cool as that concept is, it shouldn't be possible...this also brings me to the topic of knowing that species line is decent, but hating it due to the amount of attention it gets from the anime side of the Pokemon world. It really bothers me.

[Dexie]

As cool as that concept is, it shouldn't be possible...this also brings me to the topic of knowing that species line is decent, but hating it due to the amount of attention it gets from the anime side of the Pokemon world. It really bothers me.

Why shouldn't it be possible?

It comes with a light ball equipped, too. XP

[eternal Zero]

Why shouldn't it be possible?

It comes with a light ball equipped, too. XP

The current state of a Pikachu either having one or the other is the best way to do it in my opinion. Either optimize your electric damage or help yourself against your ground weakness. I liked people having to choose between the two.

[Drack]

The current state of a Pikachu either having one or the other is the best way to do it in my opinion. Either optimize your electric damage or help yourself against your ground weakness. I liked people having to choose between the two.

The mental image of surfing on top of a pikachu is disturbing.

I guess Pika has to carry around and share a surf board to make this possible.

[KakTheInfected]

The more I play RE4 Wii the more it hurts that UC was supposed to be just like this but they dumbed it down...I hope nobody buys that game, regardless if it's good or not, to punish Capcom for taking away what-might-have-been.

[eternal Zero]

The more I play RE4 Wii the more it hurts that UC was supposed to be just like this but they dumbed it down...I hope nobody buys that game, regardless if it's good or not, to punish Capcom for taking away what-might-have-been.

I'm sorry I'm tired, but UC?

[KakTheInfected]

Umbrella Chronicles.

[Dr. Wilhelm]

The more I play RE4 Wii the more it hurts that UC was supposed to be just like this but they dumbed it down...I hope nobody buys that game, regardless if it's good or not, to punish Capcom for taking away what-might-have-been.

I owe it to myself to buy UC if it's bad or not, I'm too huge of a RE fan to miss out on it. There's a section of my bedroom dedicated to the series, heh.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Lode Runner (NES) - We got Zelda II last week, so this week we get a game that predates the system itself.
Golden Axe II (GEN) - I hate it when I camp out and David the gnome steals my stuff
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (GEN) - They're slowly releasing the Sonic games to hype him up for his appearance in the Olympic games.


All the weeks I've been doing this and I can't decide if I want to go the 'helpful one sentence review' way or 'sarcastic comments that don't explain the game at all' way.

[linkspast]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Lode Runner (NES) - We got Zelda II last week, so this week we get a game that predates the system itself.
Golden Axe II (GEN) - I hate it when I camp out and David the gnome steals my stuff
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (GEN) - They're slowly releasing the Sonic games to hype him up for his appearance in the Olympic games.


All the weeks I've been doing this and I can't decide if I want to go the 'helpful one sentence review' way or 'sarcastic comments that don't explain the game at all' way.
The Sarcastic comments make me laugh.... Plus you get any one can give helpful comments.

[supremespleen]

There supposed to be a Wii system update or something today?

[Drack]

I'm a console modder. I've noticed that 100% of the N64 titles that have been released for Virtual Console so far are in the small set of games that can be run in Nintendo's own N64 Emulator for Gamecube.

What is this emulator I speak of? Let me draw your attention to two gamecube games: Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition and Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time + Master Quest. These promotional games featured emulated versions of Ocarina of Time and either Ocarina of Time Master Quest or Majora's Mask, depending on the game. (Collector's Edition also had the 2 NES Zeldas and a Wind Waker demo).

Not so recently, the console modding community has been able to rip this emulator from these discs, and run other N64 games on modded gamecubes using these. Classics such as Super Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Mario Kart 64, Pilotwings 64, F-Zero X, of course the Zelda games, and not much else, could be played on this emulator. All of the current N64 virtual console games previously ran on this emulator.

What does this mean for Virtual Console? I predict F-Zero X to be released soon (It already has been in Japan), Pilotwings 64, and Ocarina of Time Master Quest. Majora's Mask may soon follow - Those who played it on the Zelda Collector's Edition know that it was a little glitchy with sound problems and lower than the original's FPS at times. These are the games that would require the least work to be done on Nintendo's emulator to work with virtual console.

Sadly, much work will have to be done to make other games run. We're already feeling a lack of N64 games for virtual console, and there are not many titles remaining that can work with the current software.

[megadave]

I'll give Umbrella Chronicles a try, but I hope it's not too shallow. On-rails shooters tend to get old pretty quick.

[Broken]

This is amazingly impractical, but mostly it's just amazing.

wiimote key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksi4jm_Gkjk)

[Dexie]

The mental image of surfing on top of a pikachu is disturbing.

I guess Pika has to carry around and share a surf board to make this possible.

In the Pokemon Special/Adventures manga, Red's Pikachu creates a Substitute, then reshapes it into a surfboard to use the attack.

[KakTheInfected]

Scarface has EXCELLENT controls. That is surprising as hell.

[eternal Zero]

In the Pokemon Special/Adventures manga, Red's Pikachu creates a Substitute, then reshapes it into a surfboard to use the attack.

FFS? That's pretty nuts. Very clever, also.


The only issue with the key thing is that doesn't a Wiimote need to sync with the bluetooth in a system before it can be used? Otherwise anyone with a Wiimote could compromise that security.

[Penfold]

I'm a console modder. I've noticed that 100% of the N64 titles that have been released for Virtual Console so far are in the small set of games that can be run in Nintendo's own N64 Emulator for Gamecube.

What is this emulator I speak of? Let me draw your attention to two gamecube games: Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition and Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time + Master Quest. These promotional games featured emulated versions of Ocarina of Time and either Ocarina of Time Master Quest or Majora's Mask, depending on the game. (Collector's Edition also had the 2 NES Zeldas and a Wind Waker demo).

Not so recently, the console modding community has been able to rip this emulator from these discs, and run other N64 games on modded gamecubes using these. Classics such as Super Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Mario Kart 64, Pilotwings 64, F-Zero X, of course the Zelda games, and not much else, could be played on this emulator. All of the current N64 virtual console games previously ran on this emulator.

What does this mean for Virtual Console? I predict F-Zero X to be released soon (It already has been in Japan), Pilotwings 64, and Ocarina of Time Master Quest. Majora's Mask may soon follow - Those who played it on the Zelda Collector's Edition know that it was a little glitchy with sound problems and lower than the original's FPS at times. These are the games that would require the least work to be done on Nintendo's emulator to work with virtual console.

Sadly, much work will have to be done to make other games run. We're already feeling a lack of N64 games for virtual console, and there are not many titles remaining that can work with the current software.

How about Paper Mario? They've stated that will be coming out for VC.

Also, first Chocobo's Dungeon vid for the Wii (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/905/905519/vids_1.html). It's looking pretty awesome to me, especially since it reminds me a lot of Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Tales.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:
NES Open Tournament Golf (NES) - Upset that the PGA Tour is over? Get a golf fix with this game, even though if you really need a golf fix you'd be playing Wii Sports anyway
Bloody Wolf (T16) - There is gameplay of run and the gun and the title of fearful Engrish here
World Sports Competiton (T16) - I suppose it would be rather difficult to have the NES title World Class Track Meet on the VC.

[Neo Samus]

I was so sure that F-Zero X would be avaiable today since Europe got it on Friday. Maybe next week they will suprise us with two N64 games! My Wishful thinking will probrably get crushed though......

[KakTheInfected]

Yes, that makes me very sad. I was really looking forward to some F-Zero today and am too lazy to deal with hooking up the N64.

[BardicKnowledge]

Right now, we are still short a few games for me to be content (not happy, but content).

NES: Crystalis, Startropics (II)

Genesis: Crusader of Centy, Shining Force (II), the rest of the Sonic games

SNES: E.V.O., Super Metroid, Secret of Mana, Earthbound

TG-16: Bonk 3 (admittedly, I'm lacking in experience here)

N64: Majora's Mask, Smash Bros., F-Zero

As far as what I really _want_ out of it, I'd like to see "updated" versions of NES games that had extra sound channels in Japan (e.g. Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania, et al) so that I don't have to get the emulators out. That and Star Ocean/SD3 would make me extremely happy.

Too bad we don't get the Turbo Duo....

[Neo Samus]

Yes, that makes me very sad. I was really looking forward to some F-Zero today and am too lazy to deal with hooking up the N64.

I actually still have my N64 hooked up and have F-Zeo X in there right now. But I want the updated visuals. I wish we were able to get different regions, cuz I have the Japanese version of F-Zero X which I like better for one reason (this may sound shallow), Blood Falcon's ship in the JP version is called the Hell Hawk, but was renamed Blood Hawk in the US version. I found it cool that Nintendo (in Japan at least) was more leaniant about harsh words like Hell and Damn.

Bardic, you should also add Air Zonk to that list of TG-16 games.

[Imagist]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6172830.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

With Manhunt 2 being rated AO by the ESRB, Sony and Nintendo have said they won't allow it to be published. Looks like it's changes or curtains for Rockstar. They could try to appeal the rating, but the earlier reported statements from the ratings boards seemed pretty adamant.

[JoeFu]

I'm pretty sure Rockstar is doing this stuff on purpose.

Did you read what places will be in Manhunt 2? There are brothels, stripclubs, and a bunch of other stuff that would most likely push the game from M to AO. I just think they are doing it for publicity.

[Bahamut]

I'm pretty sure Rockstar is doing this stuff on purpose.

Did you read what places will be in Manhunt 2? There are brothels, stripclubs, and a bunch of other stuff that would most likely push the game from M to AO. I just think they are doing it for publicity.

It's Rockstar, what did you expect? It's their entire marketing strategy.

[JoeFu]

Yeah, I don't think they use any money to make commercials, they just do this crap.

[SilverStar]

And you know what? I still want to buy it, AO rated as it is. I don't want it to be castrated at all.. just let me buy it online if needed!

[atmuh]

And you know what? I still want to buy it, AO rated as it is. I don't want it to be castrated at all.. just let me buy it online if needed!

am i the only one who sees something wrong with this

[Imagist]

am i the only one who sees something wrong with this

You only see one thing wrong?

[Smoke]

Megaman 1 was just added to the Wii Shop Channel here.

[SilverStar]

am i the only one who sees something wrong with this

Hey, the other choice is to have it released for PC with optimized GlovePie scripts to play it with a wiimote. And I wouldn't mind that, either.

[KakTheInfected]

I'd actually prefer it come to PC with better visuals to be quite honest.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting (SNES) - The prequel to "Street Fighter II Turbo: the Name of this Game is too Long to Fit on the Cart"
China Warrior (T16) - like the NES game Kung Fu, except with an extreme close up, and the bosses don't laugh at you
F-Zero X (N64) - It's finally out now, stop complaining

[Drack]

I wonder why they didn't choose Super Street Fighter II instead - It was the better game, though I preferred the Genesis version of it.

[Hector]

Though I have no intentnion of getting Manhunt II, I really don't like this "no AO games" crap from all three console publishers. With VCR, DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, none of the companies put restrictions on content. Also, this makes the ESRB more reluctant to rate games as AO. There are plenty of games that deserve an AO rating, but they rate them as mature instead because the companies push adamantly for such a rating. The reluctance to do so will only be increased by knowing that the games will actually be banned.

On the other hand, the reverse may be true as the ESRB uses AO ratings as a weapon to control the industry somewhat.

[SirChadlyOC]

I think Manhunt II could still sell because of the strength of online video-game retailers today. As little as three years ago, I wouldn't have bought a video game online. Heck, I didn't buy Electroplankton for DS two years ago. However, I think that the internet has progressed to the point now that online retailers could sell the game pretty successfully, especially because of the marketing potential of "OMG MOST GRAPHIC, VIOLENT GAME EVAR!!1!"

I'd buy it, but I'm not expecting to see it on store shelves.

[Penfold]

I'd buy it, but I'm not expecting to see it on store shelves.

Especially considering it won't be published at all (for consoles) if it were to stay with the AO rating. If Nintendo says no AO games, that's that. But yeah, I think it'll probably sell pretty well if it loses the AO rating one way or another...I never heard of the original Manhunt, but now the sequel has been publicized to any who keep up with video game news at all.

[Bigfoot]

I need a new Wii game... any games worth buying? I think VC games are looking more appealing atm, lol.


I have Zelda: TP, Excite Truck, Mario Party 8, and SPM.

[SilverStar]

I need a new Wii game... any games worth buying? I think VC games are looking more appealing atm, lol.


I have Zelda: TP, Excite Truck, Mario Party 8, and SPM.

Well, if you have a DS, you could look at Pokemon Battle Revolution.

Or if you want a sports game, you could go for The Bigs.

Both are supposed to have hit stores today.. both are online, as well.

Unfortunately The Bigs, the one I was looking forward to, has some really tacky motion controls in that damn drum-to-run idea. That makes me not want it, even if everything else were good. I'd rather not have my arms be dead tired from trying to run from base to base.

[SirChadlyOC]

The Bigs does look pretty sweet, especially since I don't have a lot to choose from when it comes to baseball games on Nintendo consoles recently. It sounds like all the RPG elements will be pretty cool.

Has anyone seen any good deals on that game? Circuit City has been selling a lot of the new releases for $10 off recently, but I haven't heard if they are doing it for this game.

[atmuh]

Well, if you have a DS, you could look at Pokemon Battle Revolution.

Or if you want a sports game, you could go for The Bigs.

Both are supposed to have hit stores today.. both are online, as well.

Unfortunately The Bigs, the one I was looking forward to, has some really tacky motion controls in that damn drum-to-run idea. That makes me not want it, even if everything else were good. I'd rather not have my arms be dead tired from trying to run from base to base.

battle revolution is the biggest waste of money if you ask me

[KakTheInfected]

Mmm F-Zero X music...I hope the next F-Zero doesn't use that techno crap they had in GX.

[atmuh]

Mmm F-Zero X music...I hope the next F-Zero doesn't use that techno crap they had in GX.

i still say x's version of silence is the best f-zero song ever OMGBETTERTHANBIGBLUE

[SilverStar]

I actually decided to get F-Zero X, since I was bummed that the one game I had been looking forward to, turns out to have one thing I hate.

And you know what? So far, it feels smooth and fast enough to make you forget that it's a 9 year old game.

[KakTheInfected]

I have noticed some very rare slowdown that wasn't in the game before, usually when a lot of cars are on screen having their energy refilled. Hopefully they fix that in the future.

And for christ sake, I can't stand the classic controller's joystick postion. Wavebird ftw.

[megadave]

I wonder why they didn't choose Super Street Fighter II instead - It was the better game, though I preferred the Genesis version of it.

So they can sell it then release the even better version. Then they'll release another one, and people will then buy that one.

Street Fighter 2 > Turbo > Super > etc.

I don't see why you prefer the Genesis version though - It had an extra mode or two, but the graphics and sound were so much crappier. Was it the 6-button genesis controller?

[Drack]

So they can sell it then release the even better version. Then they'll release another one, and people will then buy that one.

Street Fighter 2 > Turbo > Super > etc.

I don't see why you prefer the Genesis version though - It had an extra mode or two, but the graphics and sound were so much crappier. Was it the 6-button genesis controller?Nostalgia has a lot to do with it. Sure, the SNES has a much better sound chip than the genesis, but I grew up with the Genesis version in all its FM glory and the SNES sounds seem odd to me. Extra modes are nice, and 6 face buttons fits the 6 attacks SF2 gave the player extremely well. Of course, the controller is irrelevant on the Wii. There's something about the FM music on the Genesis that has a distinctive sound. The SNES can produce some great music (and Capcom proved this themselves with Mega Man X, for example) but I didn't like how they did it for Street Fighter for SNES. But mostly it's nostalgia.

[Red Shadow]

ah, the simple pleasure of killing every other racer with some sideswipes during a race

my hands hurt so much from being overstressed right now

[KWarp]

Bought Big Brain Academy Wii. The Wii remote keychain dealie
sealed the deal. I hear the multiplayer's pretty good so let's find out...

[KWarp]

Mario Party 8 is TERRIBLY BORING. The game suffers from slow pacing and boring, sometimes broken minigames. Really this series has been lacking for a long time. I'm going back to play Mario Party 2 again. ;[

Big Brain Academy is a step better. At least the games work properly...

Also got something fresh off the rumor mill: Nintendo will announce WiiWare tomorrow. The service provides original downloadable Wii games much like LiveArcade and Playstation Network. However, no games launch until 2008 apparently. There's more details in a blog you can probably google. Dunno why the blogger couldn't wait a day, breaking NDA isn't quite worth it for this one...

[SilverStar]

Mario Party 8 is TERRIBLY BORING. The game suffers from slow pacing and boring, sometimes broken minigames. Really this series has been lacking for a long time. I'm going back to play Mario Party 2 again. ;[

Big Brain Academy is a step better. At least the games work properly...

Also got something fresh off the rumor mill: Nintendo will announce WiiWare tomorrow. The service provides original downloadable Wii games much like LiveArcade and Playstation Network. However, no games launch until 2008 apparently. There's more details in a blog you can probably google. Dunno why the blogger couldn't wait a day, breaking NDA isn't quite worth it for this one...

Problem is, Line Rider is supposed to be coming out soon-ish, and it'd be something which would work perfectly for WiiWare, rather than a standalone.

[Bahamut]

Mmm F-Zero X music...I hope the next F-Zero doesn't use that techno crap they had in GX.

GX had a fine soundtrack, shut your mouth!

[KakTheInfected]

It was good, but compared to X, it was fucking garbage.

[BardicKnowledge]

^^ That really makes me want to go play X, since I think the music in GX is awesome.

[Critical Hit]

^^ That really makes me want to go play X, since I think the music in GX is awesome.

Agreed. I thought it fit the game very well, and was exciting. I played the original back in the day on the SNES, but didn't get a 64 until its dying days, so a lot of its great games were hard to find...So when it came out on the Gamecube I jumped at it, and it soon became one of my favorite games. I'm definitely excited to play FZeroX now after all of this time.

[AarowSwift]

Well, since everybody's stating their opinions like gospel, I'll toss in a dissenting view. I hated the soundtrack in F-Zero X. I like some rock but the stuff in X sounded extremely generic..or something. I really liked the music in GX, especially all the character themes which varied widely in genre and were often wonderfully, purposefully cheesy.

I wouldn't be adverse to a rock themed soundtrack for the next F-Zero, but this time I hope the mucisians know how to play. :wink:

[Bigfoot]

I too enjoyed the GX sound track. I also miss playing AX in the arcade with with tilting seat, haha.

[megadave]

I like the F-Zero SNES soundtrack the most.

[atmuh]

It was good, but compared to X, it was fucking garbage.

pretty much

[Bigfoot]

Metroid Prime 3 box art.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5006/metroidprime3boxartqs2.jpg

Wait a minute.. her corrupted side has the arm cannon on her left arm? Odd. I dunno what the deal is with the face in the upper left hand corner, I think it could have done without that.

But anyway, I can't wait.

[megadave]

I think that X was an overall better game than GX - I think GX was extremely well done, but I just don't 'feel the road' like I do when playing X. Maybe it's the combination of different sound effects coupled with collisions and things. Maybe you know what I mean.

GX had tons of awesome songs, too - but they were all on the character profiles (wtf)

[atmuh]

Metroid Prime 3 box art.

(boxart)

Wait a minute.. her corrupted side has the arm cannon on her left arm? Odd. I dunno what the deal is with the face in the upper left hand corner, I think it could have done without that.

But anyway, I can't wait.

note the lack of wfc logo
im pretty sure itll stay that way

[Drack]

Metroid Prime 3 box art
Wow, what a shitty box art.

Look at the visor on the face in the upper left. Dark Samus in prime 2 was dumb looking enough with its 3-pointed visor going so far down, but this one looks like it's melting off. So stupid looking.

The corrupted mirror image is no better. As you said, arm cannon on left arm for the lulz. Samus's suit in pastel colors wtf? Also the mirror image has pointier knees and it looks like it has cables coming out of the arm cannon. The red/blue auras suck too

Also look in the lower right corner. Corrupted or not, that should be planet, not stars.

Dumb dumb dumb. There is NOTHING good about this boxart.

[Red Shadow]

god forbid the art on the box has an impact on the way the game plays

[Schwaltzvald]

god forbid the art on the box has an impact on the way the game plays

http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/january03_covers_01.jpg

[Penfold]

The corrupted mirror image is no better. As you said, arm cannon on left arm for the lulz.

I think that's simply because it is a mirror image, and not neccesarily representative of what we'll be seeing in-game. It would have looked weirder if it wasn't a "reflection" like that on the boxart IMO.

[Drack]

god forbid the art on the box has an impact on the way the game plays

Nowhere did I say that the game is going to suck. But the boxart seriously needs to be redone from scratch.

[SilverStar]

I think that's simply because it is a mirror image, and not neccesarily representative of what we'll be seeing in-game. It would have looked weirder if it wasn't a "reflection" like that on the boxart IMO.

On top of that.. if that's supposed to be Dark Samus, then where the hell is her vastly different suit? Dark Samus' armor wasn't just the Varia suit, but in dark colors.

[Effector]

I don't think it's Dark Samus or a new character - Metroid has been rather stuck on doppelgängers lately (SA-X, Dark Samus) there's not much room for another look-alike.

But instead, I think it's the "corrupted" version of Samus. As per wiki:

In Metroid Prime 3, we're trying to explain what the origins of Phazon were and it's the culmination of what this is all about. It's not only a story element - the Phazon and corruption which happen on a planetary scale - but it also happens in a gameplay sense as well. Samus herself gets corrupted by Phazon and actually begins to develop abilities based on that Phazon. So that's kind of why the game is titled "Corruption". You yourself are becoming corrupted.

[The Damned]

So, on the tail-end of an announcement for Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Nintendo slipped in a date for Metroid Prime: Corruption, August 27th.

See here (http://kotaku.com/gaming/oh-snap%21/phantom-hourglass-dated-for-the-us-274166.php)

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES) - Doki Doki Panic a few days before Doki Doki Majo Shinpan
Ecco 2: The Tides of Time (GEN) - Maybe we'll get a new Ecco? Of course, judging by the latest Sonic game in development, it'd be some sort of RTS
Dragon Spirit (T16) - Another shooter, oh, well you're a DRAGON in this, so I guess that's different

[JoeFu]

Prime 3 delayed a week :(

Also, for those whining about the MP3 box, go look at the original Primes box... It has Samus standing in a stupid looking corridor.... not exactly awesome. Anyways, who cares. The only time I ever look at box art is when I buy the game.

[Bigfoot]

A week isn't much. At least it wasn't a few months delay or something even longer.

I do wonder why they delayed it a week though..

[Sir_NutS]

In Other news, seems like Katamari is getting cancelled for PS3 and coming for the Wii.

Linky (http://wii.ign.com/articles/800/800761p1.html)

[megadave]

I never thought I'd feel sorry for Sony, but damn...

It makes no difference to me though, because I've never cared for Katamari much.

Anyway, the future is looking to be a good one for Wii owners.

[The Damned]

Wow. Katamari was one of those definitive games for the PS2. It was weird and odd and had nothing that should have made it appeal to the Western audience, but it was big enough to be on every top ten list and nominated for every award that came up.

Yeah, the sequel and the PSP versions weren't as good, or popular, but still... ouch. That along with some of their other "exclusives" jumping ship this last six months...

[KWarp]

I remember there was a time when people said Katamari would never work on Wii. Hehe.

I wanna buy a second Wii as a present for someone, but can't find the damn things anywhere... still... stupid cultural phenomenon. :-?

[eternal Zero]

I can't believe they're still so hard to find...but the numbers make sense. I think it's like 200k+ sold for the Wii but like 40k+ for the PS2 since launch? I forget the exact numbers, but I did chuckle to myself when I heard that. Not to mention that Sony's still using the "you can't judge us so close to launch" excuse when it's been months.

Though in general it feels like all the consoles are coming to a slow patch...then again that might be due to me playing more PC games recently.

[megadave]

There aren't many games that grab my interest right now - well, I've been wanting to try the new Mortal Kombat. Hell, are there any good sleepers out right now (minus the first person shooters)?

And where the f$#% is Kirby Adventure - did they throw it in the trash can?

[eternal Zero]

Going -all- the way back to RE4: Wii, it's really quite good. Same system, nothing drastic...cept for a few things I have major and I do mean MAJOR qualms with. It's far too easy now. You don't have to deal with a small laser sight nor do you have to deal with Leon's naturally shaky hands. Instead you deal with your own. But, if you have decently steady hands (like myself) then this makes the game far too easy. The sight is well done and easy to see and the aiming system is spot-on. The extra content is well appreciated and fun, but it does take some getting used to in terms of the controls...I was flailing wildly for the first half hour until I decided I had to actually relearn the game.

[Azul v2]

Doesn't seem that the Wii is slowing down at all, I have been searching all week for one since I finally have the money and don't want to spend an extra $100 to buy it online. Every store I have been to (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Circuit City, EB Games, Gamestop, Walmart, and Target) say that Nintendo ships them randomly and they don't know when more will come in. So I come back home and put my name on the waiting list for a local (non corporate) game store that gets them (and this is a small town mind you) and there are like 8 people ahead of me on the list. I'm glad that they are outselling the PS3 and XBox six to one, but comeon dammit, I want my Wii!

Oh and every store I went into had at least 12-15 PS3's in stock on display and it looks like they haven't been touched in a long time. Sony must be really hurting right now.

[Antipode]

Just a response to several people:

But instead, I think the figure Samus is standing with in the box art is the "corrupted" version of Samus.

I don't think so - I was accidentally spoiled somewhat by an IGN screenshot that shows Samus in some kind of an odd looking suit with blue patches on it. But you might still be right because I'm guessing that suit is some kind of Federation armor or something. I don't want to know till I play.

go look at the original Primes box... It has Samus standing in a stupid looking corridor.... not exactly awesome.

Personally, I liked the Prime boxart. I mean, what more do you need than Samus standing there and looking badass? Something that's really missing for me about the Prime 3 boxart is that behind the logo for Primes 1 and 2 is a circle of some kind with a design in it - the original "blue/orange" logo for Prime 3 had one similar to that, but it was removed for the final design. I say they should have kept the old one to keep it consistent. Yeah anyway, I'll stand with those that don't like the boxart - overall the design just sucks. It'd be nice if they'd surprise us with a last-minute change.

And where the f$#% is Kirby Adventure - did they throw it in the trash can?

It's been ported to Wii, but they're probably saving it for release with the "second wave" to keep sales going. I say it should have been the final GC game instead.

Doesn't seem that the Wii is slowing down at all

That's cool and all, but still all I own for it is Zelda...nothing else except maybe Paper Mario has really interested me at all. All the ones I really want for it aren't even out yet.

[Airwalker]

Doesn't seem that the Wii is slowing down at all, I have been searching all week for one since I finally have the money and don't want to spend an extra $100 to buy it online. Every store I have been to (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Circuit City, EB Games, Gamestop, Walmart, and Target) say that Nintendo ships them randomly and they don't know when more will come in.

Your best source is always a friend that works at one of those stores. For instance, my Target friend who works in Electronics usually just says he doesn't know when they come in. But sometimes they do get a forewarning and he can call me. (Already snapped one up!) Usually, it's going to be on a Sunday in time for the ads in the newspaper. Just call all of those places every Sunday morning after they open, or check your paper.

Oh and every store I went into had at least 12-15 PS3's in stock on display and it looks like they haven't been touched in a long time. Sony must be really hurting right now.

Well, they insisted on supporting Blu-ray. Not that it may not be appreciated when (if?) I buy a PS3 in a few years. But it easily racked up the price by a bit.

[Bigfoot]

lol @ people on various blogs that are butt-sore about no online multiplayer for Metroid Prime 3. As big of a fan of Metroid that I am, it doesn't bother me one bit.

[JoeFu]

I was so happy when I didn't see a Wifi logo on the MP3 boxart. I can't wait for it!!!!

[SilverStar]

Online multiplayer is a feature that could turn a game from 1-2 playthroughs then stored on a shelf, to one that sits next to the system for constant play.

If it weren't for the near 1/3 failure rate of the X360, or Sony's Ultimate Douchery, I'd really have to look at a second system for some solid gaming. I'm really getting sick and tired of the fucking minigames that are just being shat out by everyone on Wii. :/

[Bigfoot]

If MP3 did have online multiplayer, you know people would just complain about how bad it is because it's Nintendo and people say they don't know how to do online gaming right.

People need to look at what this game actually is. It's Metroid, and Metroid is supposed to be a great single-player experience. I bet a lot of people that are complaining about no online multi-player for MP3 have never played a Metroid game before.

I seriously saw comments about people asking for co-op. Co-op on Metroid? wth? A lot of the people complaining are probably just band wagoners.

[SilverStar]

If MP3 did have online multiplayer, you know people would just complain about how bad it is because it's Nintendo and people say they don't know how to do online gaming right.

People need to look at what this game actually is. It's Metroid, and Metroid is supposed to be a great single-player experience. I bet a lot of people that are complaining about no online multi-player for MP3 have never played a Metroid game before.

I seriously saw comments about people asking for co-op. Co-op on Metroid? wth? A lot of the people complaining are probably just band wagoners.

Then I just hope Wii gets a game that at least has the kind of online appeal that Halo and Halo 2 do, among the general "casual hardcore" crowd.

To find out that The Bigs had the online mode ripped out of the Wii version, pissed me off. And that Nintendo's "flagship" online title doesn't even have a whiff of the features the original Pokemon Stadium game had, is just an insult and slap in the face.

I'm really getting jaded by this BS, and hope some 3rd party companies do come along and smack Nintendo upside the head and show them what the fuck to do.

At this rate, with Animal Crossing Wii, not only will you need a friend code to be able to send messages to anyone, you'll also need some sort of super special Mii code inside the game, to send an item to them, which will be 3 times longer, just to "keep the kids safe" or some buggery.

Wii = GREAT idea. Tons of potential. Massive amounts of promise. But there's just too many areas where Nintendo is making a point to put the breaks on things and hold back, instead of actually doing things -good-.

Make games with all those extra security features for the kiddies. But damnit, let the rest of us get in there and have an open, wild time.

[Ray Falling]

What's kind of sad is that we're all sort of waiting for the sequels to games we've been playing over the past X years, since we know at least those will be good.

I was going to be very open to 3rd party titles but dissapointment after dissapointment made me change my mind on that.
(Yes, I know, rental is the way to go for me then).

Just remind yourself of the great stuff that has yet to come :)

For me that be:
-Metroid!
-Mario Galaxy
-Super Paper Mario
-Smash Bros.
-Final Fantasy CC
-Fire Emblem
-Kirby
-the inevitable F zero
-the hopefully better this time Starfox
-another Zelda?
-Namco is supposed to be working on a Tales sequel for Wii.
-I'll concider the next DBZ maybe...
-maybe Alien Syndrome
etc. etc. etc.

:) I can't wait to learn about more good titles soon to add to ze list. It's all that keeps me sane gaming wise x_x.

[Azul v2]

I think they are using Strikers and Pokemon whatever for testing their online multiplayer features before they release the big hitters like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart, and they figured that if Metroid Prime 3 is already ready, why wait and go ahead and release it now. I'm sure there will be plenty of shooting type games in the future for online play, and you can't rule out that they might just make it online in a future update or something.

[Arek the Absolute]

-Namco is supposed to be working on a Tales sequel for Wii.


Tales sequel of what? Symponia? Eternia? Legendia? The Abyss? Destiny 1/2? Phantasia?
See where I am going at?

[The Damned]

I think they are using Strikers and Pokemon whatever for testing their online multiplayer features before they release the big hitters like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart, and they figured that if Metroid Prime 3 is already ready, why wait and go ahead and release it now.
I can see it, and it does make some sense. If you try to pre-determine what limits and conditions you think it will run under, a system will only meet so many of them, and then you run into the stuff that no one anticipated.

But at the same time, each game you release with a limited online part suffers for it, and the gap between your own online system lags behind that of the competition (namely Microsoft's X-Box Live!, which is pretty damn good for online gaming). You see this happening with the DS, Nintendo's real venture into online. The first games that supported it were hit and miss. Mario Kart DS had a pretty easy and decent way to play your friends, but really sucked when it came to playing random people. Anyone that has ever played knows what I'[m talking about; snakers playing non-snakers, disconnecters, outright rude and jackass behavior of various kinds...

That brings up the real problem with online, actually. The other players. Most of the time, you end up with totally different people, whom you can not play a good game with. Either your ideas of how to play are too different, or they don't want to play, so much as fuck around and be in the way of your good time. Any way...

Even though later games have been better at it, they still blow it on certain aspects. Pokémon D/P lets you trade and battle online, but suffers several problems. Trading is either by Friend Code, which is somewhat convenient, or by GTS, which is plagued by cheaters and outrageous trade offers (level 100 Mew for a Level 3 Bidoof? Fuckin' come on...). Battling is completely restricted to Friend Codes, which sucks ass when none of the people on your list are playing at the time. Random battles would be welcome, because sometimes, you just want to have a quick battle to kill some time.

With the Wii, the same problems seem bound to happen. The reliance upon the Friend Code system will be a major stumbling block. Even though Pokémon Battle Revolution offers random battles, there still isn't a well designed, well built online component. And this was supposed to be the flagship of Wii online games. :roll:

I can only hope that whatever Nintendo learns from their experiences with online gaming so far lets them come up with a solid, consistent and workable online strategy. Because we all know, they need one.

I'm sure there will be plenty of shooting type games in the future for online play, and you can't rule out that they might just make it online in a future update or something.
I don't think you can just add online support for a game without a rather significant patching regime. Besides, the games run off of optical discs (all read, no write) and the system memory is limited to on-board 512 megabytes, plus whatever external memory you have plugged in.

The thing is, Wii discs hold 4.7 gigs, or 8.5 if it's dual-layer. If they use up 4 gigs for a game, and that's not counting any online stuff, you would have to have a pretty large SD card to handle the new online code that you would supposedly download.

And what happens if you don't insert that SD card when you boot up the game? I can see too many problems arising from this idea.

I doubt that we'll see this sort of thing unless they can figure out a really good way to shrink such a patch to only a few hundred megs, or by a hard drive (which Nintendo has already stated they have absolutely no interest in doing).

[Effector]

Going -all- the way back to RE4: Wii, it's really quite good. Same system, nothing drastic...cept for a few things I have major and I do mean MAJOR qualms with. It's far too easy now. You don't have to deal with a small laser sight nor do you have to deal with Leon's naturally shaky hands. Instead you deal with your own. But, if you have decently steady hands (like myself) then this makes the game far too easy. The sight is well done and easy to see and the aiming system is spot-on. The extra content is well appreciated and fun, but it does take some getting used to in terms of the controls...I was flailing wildly for the first half hour until I decided I had to actually relearn the game.

I agree with pretty much everything. For one who raped the content out of the original GCN game, this is way easy. I don't think I'll have much trouble even up to Professional mode. Mercenaries might be a little difficult, but still easier than the original. The shooting range is actually laughable if you do rapid-fire (TMP).

Yeah, it does take a little while to get used to, especially for those of us who invested so many hours into RE4. Once you realize that most of the buttons are just remaps of their Cube counterparts, you can kind of wrap your head around it.

The bad part is that you have to unlock all the content by playing through the game on normal. I'm all excited about seeing the new stuff, but I have to replay a game I've beaten so many times. Still, I find new stuff every time I play through, so it's not a really raw deal. I mean, this game is fucking amazing, end of story.

EDIT: Oh, but a downside of the Wii version is that (it being so easy to aim) I'm running low on ammo most of the time. Unlike running Professional on 'cube, where the main strategy for single villagers is to shoot them once in head to make them stumble, then run forward, kick, and slash them as they get up (1 bullet used), I've been just happily blasting everyone I can see (a billion bullets). I was always really careful about my ammo consumption before, but it being so fun to shoot, I can't help it this time around. So figure out for yourself if that's a plus or minus for the game. :D

[Glenn565]

Tales sequel of what? Symponia? Eternia? Legendia? The Abyss? Destiny 1/2? Phantasia?
See where I am going at?

Sword of Legendia. No other information is known about it then the title.

[The Pezman]

Do you think the Wii will support HD in the future? If they can refit units with HD graphics cards?

[SilverStar]

Do you think the Wii will support HD in the future? If they can refit units with HD graphics cards?

Wouldn't happen. Such a major hardware change would mean that new games couldn't be played on old units.

I just hope something happens and they at least offer a VGA cable or something. I want to play it in 480p on my LCD, but can't because I can't find a real, properly functional Component>VGA bit, that doesn't crap itself all over interlaced output.

Fucking hardware makers only half-assing things.

[Merk]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Mach Rider (NES) - Racing games have become dull, LETS ADD MACHINE GUNS
Yoshi (NES) - Who knew that Yoshis actually consisted of goombas, piranha plants, boos and bloopers?
EDIT:
Air Zork (T16) - Something that looks like the love child of Bonk and Astro Boy in, what else, a shmup.

[Amayirot Akago]

Yoshi (NES) - Who knew that Yoshis actually consisted of goombas, piranha plants, boos and bloopers?Oh my God, I had that one on the original GameBoy. I'd forgotten all about it; sweet game. Someone needs to remix the music on that too.

*makes a mental note to finally pick up a new Wii Points Card soon*

Still waiting for Paper Mario 64 as well.

[Bigfoot]

Still waiting for Paper Mario 64 as well.

We should be getting it fairly soon. Japan just got it on their VC.

[Amayirot Akago]

We should be getting it fairly soon. Japan just got it on their VC.All the more reason for me to get a card then.

[Neo Samus]

North American Virtual Console releases today:

Mach Rider (NES) - Racing games have become dull, LETS ADD MACHINE GUNS
Yoshi (NES) - Who knew that Yoshis actually consisted of goombas, piranha plants, boos and bloopers?


Hey you forgot Air Zonk! for TG-16!! I'm totally getting that game today and maybe Yoshi.

[Critical Hit]

Hey you forgot Air Zonk! for TG-16!! I'm totally getting that game today and maybe Yoshi.

Let us know if it's worth picking up, plz ^_^

[Merk]

Hey you forgot Air Zonk! for TG-16!! I'm totally getting that game today and maybe Yoshi.


That was supposed to come today, but when I checked I did not see it. That happened once with a game before, so I figured it got pushed to next week. My original post has been changed.

[Neo Samus]

Downloaded Air Zonk last night. Classic Shooting at its finest! If you are a fan of shooters, find a way to get some Wii Points and download it NOW!!! It's also on the main page of the Shop Channel.

[supremespleen]

Some release dates from Sega, courtesy of Joystiq.

Bleach: Shattered Blade™ (Wii) – Release: Fall 2007
Bleach: The Blade of Fate™ (DS) – Release: Fall 2007
The award-winning Bleach™ anime series, currently featured on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, is coming to the Wii and Nintendo DS this fall. Timed with the launch of the highly-anticipated second season, gamers will get to experience the cinematic, sword fighting action of Bleach: Shattered Blade on the Wii and Bleach: The Blade of Fate on the DS. The series follows the life of a 15-year-old boy named Ichigo Kurosaki who is able to see spirits and becomes a Soul Reaper with supernatural powers.

Ghost Squad™ (Wii) – Release: Holiday 2007
SEGA's top-grossing light gun game from 2005, Ghost Squad, comes to the Wii system and replicates the excitement of the arcade experience in your home for 1-4 players. The Ghost Squad is a Special Forces unit established in strict secrecy by the U.N. to combat terrorism and carry out special highly-classified missions without leaving a trace. As an elite member of the Ghost Squad, players will complete dangerous missions such as eliminating terrorist groups, releasing hostages, deactivating bombs, and even rescuing the U.S. President when terrorists hijack Air Force One. Using the Wii Remote™, players will utilize revolutionary selectable weapons including a high-powered rifle, submachine gun and shotgun, or even engage in hand-to-hand combat.

The Golden Compass™ (Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PC, DS, PSP, Mobile) – Release: December 2007
Immerse yourself in the magical world of The Golden Compass, the upcoming video game based on the highly anticipated new film from New Line Cinema. It is a world where witches fly through frozen skies, giant armored bears fight to defend their kingdom and where sinister Gobblers kidnap children and carry them to a frozen wasteland. And it is a world of intense danger and amazing adventure for the rebellious Lyra Belacqua, her animal daemon, Pan, and a giant and powerful bear named Iorek. Together they embark on an epic journey of action, exploration, collaboration and discovery.

Iron Man™ (Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PC, DS, PSP) – Release: Spring 2008
Marvel and SEGA bring this invincible armored hero to theaters and video game platforms in 2008. Iron Man, one of Marvel's most indestructible crime fighters, is blasting onto video game platforms and the big screen next year! Armed with a high-tech suit and a variety of weapons, the player will take on entire armies on constantly evolving and chaotic battlefields. The epic, action-packed Marvel Studios production will be directed by John Favreau and stars Robert Downey Jr., Jeff Bridges, Terrence Howard and Gwyneth Paltrow. Thrilling sequences from the film will be featured in this third-person action game, immersing the player in the explosive militaristic combat with loads of additional content created exclusively for the game.

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games™ (Wii, DS) - Release: Holiday 2007
Two of the most beloved icons in the world, Mario™ and Sonic™, are joining forces to star in Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games. Developed exclusively for the Wii video game system and the Nintendo DS system, this momentous agreement marks the first time these two renowned stars will appear together in a game. Featuring an all-star cast of characters from the amazing worlds of both Mario and Sonic, players will be able to compete as or against a range of familiar characters including Mario, Sonic, Luigi™, Knuckles™, Yoshi®, Tails™ and more. Innovative usage of the Wii and DS control systems to maneuver your favorite character will allow players to race the likes of Mario and Sonic down the 100m track, leap over the high jump or churn water in a swimming heat, all while competing for the much sought after Olympic gold medal. With up to four players on the Wii and on the DS, the stage is set to catch the fever this holiday with Mario and Sonic.

NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams™ (Wii) - Release: Fall 2007
As a fantasy jester called NiGHTS, players will fly through Nightopia, a rich and vibrant world where dreams come to life. With the innovative Wii Remote, gamers will experience a heightened sense of gliding, spiraling, and looping through a variety of mystical dream worlds packed with high-flying adventure. Players must find inventive ways to confront the "Nightmarens" from the neighboring dark world of Nightmare using amazing acrobatic skills, freedom of flight, and other special abilities to protect Nightopia. NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams is an adventure filled with courage, hope and inspiration that the whole family will enjoy.

[Dhsu]

I really, really hope NiGHTS doesn't suck.

[supremespleen]

edit: no hotlinking and I can't get back to the site
you don't get the see the picture of the guitar hero wii controller

[Penfold]

I'm very happy, they're making a sequel to Trauma Center: Second Opinion (http://wii.ign.com/articles/802/802728p1.html)! Apparently they've made some good improvements, though even if it were more of the same I'd be happy.

[Penfold]

(double post)

I really, really hope NiGHTS doesn't suck.

The trailer (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/873/873984/vids_1.html) makes it look decent so far (though I can't comment on the audio, given that I'm at work so I watched it without sound).

[Neo Samus]

I really, really hope NiGHTS doesn't suck.

That's makes two of us (and probrably more!) I love the original so much. I thind I'm gonna expect too much from this.

Does anyone know when the Nintendo's conference is?

[Penfold]

That's makes two of us (and probrably more!) I love the original so much. I thind I'm gonna expect too much from this.

Does anyone know when the Nintendo's conference is?

Tomorrow, I hear.