Evanescence

[PriZm]

I just came from the Evanescence 'Open Door' show in Montreal and I'm in awe. The musicians were absolutely wonderfully tight and Amy Lee's voice made the Bell Centre tremble. They had a very strong set list, although it included some of the weaker songs from the latest album (like Snow White Queen). Highlights were Going Under, Bring me to Life, Haunted, Imaginary, Lacrymosa and they played their absolute best song (IMO), Your Star.

Very few goths in the audience, which positively surprised me, and man was the audience pumped. After a very good performance by Stone Sour (their music was forgettable but the front man has unbelievable showmanship), the audience never stopped screaming like crazy for more Evanescence.

I did like the band before the show, but now I'm fucking sold.

The only major gripe I have is that Amy Lee seemed to have very little confidence in what herself and her band could deliver. She started the show by showing: "Wow, there's so many of you, I'm scared". And after that, 3 or 4 times during the show, she said : "This is our first show in the tour here in Montreal, so there's a lot a crazy crap going on. Sorry for all our mistakes", although nobody could notice whatever those mistakes were. And at the encore, after 5 minutes of non-stop crazy cheering, she came back and said: "Don't worry, we'll play a couple more songs. We're obligated by contract so we can't leave until this is done, anyways". While singing her songs, she seemed really into it and gave a great performance (even swaying her hair in the wind like metalheads) but in-between songs, she seemed completely pissed and/or miserable.

Nevertheless, a great show, I just would've wished they played 'Tourniquet" and didn't mention their mistakes every time. If you've seen an Evanescence show, tell me what you think.

[Chavous]

I saw them at the last (last as in, the last one ever, about 4 years ago) 104 fest here in CT, when they only really had their first album to go off of. One thing I really liked was the fact that they went right from "Bring me to Life" to "Tourniquet". That was awesome. Back then, she seemed a great deal happier to be on stage than you just described, plus she was dressed up like a goth fairy, which was hot as all hell.

One thing I didn't like was the fact that on "Going under", the part in the beginning, when they have the sliced vocals, they used a recording of those vocals instead of her just singing what she could live.

Great band though.

[Zombie]

I used to like that band.

Also, it seems that their latest video strongly resembles AFI's "Love Like Winter" video. Same director, I believe.

[WesPip]

I just would've wished they played 'Tourniquet'
Shit, they DIDN'T?
Lame.
Maybe the word "GOD" would offend all non-christians.
:roll:

[FiremanJoe]

I've got a few friends who are gonna see Evanescence when they come over here. I'm not a huge fan of the band, but their music is alright.
(Suffice to say, I'd have loved to have seen that fairy outfit...)

[CE]

Urgh. No thank you.

[supremespleen]

I used to like them.

[Zutnunzor]

Theyre okay. Some of my friends swear by them, listening to only them. Poor souls.

[Mewtation]

Theyre okay. Some of my friends swear by them, listening to only them. Poor souls.
Same. There's really only four songs of theirs I like, Bring Me To Life, Eternal (that crazy seven minute instrumental from Origin), Call Me When You're Sober, and their cover of Korn's Thoughtless. But they're a good band, all in all.

[prophetik music]

tourniquet is one of my favorite songs that they do. there's kind of an evanescence bias against them at my university, which is kinda of stupid, imo. i really love their sound, and although amy lee doesn't have the best voice live, she's still fantastic.

[Nario]

I've been a fan of their music for quite a long time now. Amy Lee just really brings the songs to life, and the classical influences within some of the better songs also add a mixed atmosphere that seem to translate a feeling of awesomeness. lol

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Whoah, I didn't even know they were back together.

AWESOME! I love Evanescence.

[avaris]

Yeah i really love their first big time album fallen and their first album origin. Def agree with Nario on all those points. Their piano player can have my left nut.

Listened to bout 3 tracks from their new album but it didn't seem as good as their first, IMO.

[Holy Warrior Azar]

I think they're a decent band and Amy Lee is a great singer, but I wasn't so much into Fallen. It was a good album, but I think they over did it on the whole "dark" concept and I liked Origin way more. That one felt as though it went through a whole range of emotions as opposed to just desperation and sadness despite the fact the production quality may not have been as high. A lot of they're early EPs and Demos were pretty cool as well, I just hope at some point they remake some of those older songs like they did with Imaginary and Whisper (they changed a bit between Origin and Fallen). I still have yet to hear any of the new stuff.

[Dragonmaster_Alex]

I'd like this if i was still interested in acting gothy and pretending to be depressed.

[Mewtation]

I'd like this if i was still interested in acting gothy and pretending to be depressed.
Come on, dude, they deserve more credit than that.

[Brim]

Evanescence is decent, I'd say.

[Señor Quetzalcoatl]

Come on, dude, they deserve more credit than that.

I remember listening to them when they had just released "Fallen," which was during the time they were labeled as being christian. They rose to fame really quick during that period, and when they began to be played on mainstream radio, things really picked up.

Alas, as is with all rock bands that make it into mainstream radio stations, they are overplayed, so people get tired and say "they are alright at best."

I honestly think they are really good.

[Souliarc]

Wow. Just picked up their new album. I'm really liking "The Only One".

Been a fan of them for a while.

[Mewtation]

I remember listening to them when they had just released "Fallen," which was during the time they were labeled as being christian. They rose to fame really quick during that period, and when they began to be played on mainstream radio, things really picked up.

Alas, as is with all rock bands that make it into mainstream radio stations, they are overplayed, so people get tired and say "they are alright at best."

I honestly think they are really good.
Yeah, of course, I hear you. Of course, they don't deserve "I'd like this if i was still interested in acting gothy and pretending to be depressed."

[Señor Quetzalcoatl]

It's one of those cases were, since they are well-known, they aren't as cool anymore as when they were just being discovered. :rolls eyes:

[Mewtation]

I'd like this if i was still interested in acting gothy and pretending to be depressed.
Wait, STILL? :)

[Dragonmaster_Alex]

Wait, STILL? :)


I'd never tolerate being depressed again. It's been years.

[Guy In Rubber Suit]

Just generic pseudo-goth rock that is completely forgettable.

[Señor Quetzalcoatl]

It's better to be angry. Anger is more useful.

[Mewtation]

It's better to be angry. Anger is more useful.
...St. Anger?

[Señor Quetzalcoatl]

Man, St. Anger was a disappointment. I don't think Metallica will ever go back to the greatness they once were.

Also, the whole "anger is more useful" quote is a reference to the T3 movie, when Arnold knocks some sense (forcefully) on Connor, who is acting all emo.

[Mewtation]

*currently jamming to Metallica - Shoot Me Again*

I like St. Anger. (I mean, it's different, but it's still good.) Of course, I also liked Load and ReLoad, and think S&M is one of the best albums by any band period, so I might be slightly flawed. But they got their producer from the Justice era back, and the New Song and Other New Song sound promising, so, hey, they might make some sort of comeback.

And, man, I need to see those movies.

[al3xand3r]

The problem I have with Metallica's recent efforts is that most of their recent music just becomes background work music to me. I don't jam to it like I was able to with their classic albums. I start listening to it, and then it fades into the background while I concentrate on something else. That doesn't happen when I go old-school with them.

[Mewtation]

Though I can kinda hear that (St. Anger seems to do that to me, but that's the only album that does), I find myself rocking out again when I listen to the new stuff. Have you heard their new songs? It's some awesome stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwsbUUEOT9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snPAOzp2YOA

[al3xand3r]

I haven't heard their new stuff. Heck, I hardly listen to the radio anymore since I have my mp3 player with me. I'll take a look at those. Also, I forgot to say that I do like Evanescence as well. I was first exposed to them with their "Fallen" album, and was pleased with their first release, "Origins," which i listened to afterwards.

Oh, one more thing. It is a totally different experience listening to music on your mp3 player than on the radio. Radio stations have some weird equalization going on, some lack bass, others exaggerate it... I can't really decide on the quality of an album unless I listen to it on my mp3 player during my personal time. I like picking out the different instruments, etc.

Also, this is going off on a tangent, but I was very pleased with Ryan Star's rendition of R.E.M.'s "Losing my Religion" some time back. Here is the link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIDf9LoIYZ0

Here is the link to the original performed by R.E.M.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye2LoCaZKCY

I like both versions. Unfortunately, Ryan Star's version is short, and there is no official release of his version, so I ended up ripping the music off of the youtube video to a WAV file, which I then converted to an MP3.

[prophetik music]

nice job completely taking this thread off-topic, guys.

[al3xand3r]

We're still on topic, no? My last post still mentioned Evanescence. The thread just has extra spices now. The main ingredient is still there.

But just to reinforce the intended purpose: why isn't Tourniquet played on the radio? Is it because of its blatant religious overtones? I had never heard the song until I got my hands on the CD. It is clearly one of their superior songs.

[Mewtation]

nice job completely taking this thread off-topic, guys.
You're welcome. ;)
...St. Anger?

[prophetik music]

We're still on topic, no? My last post still mentioned Evanescence. The thread just has extra spices now. The main ingredient is still there.

But just to reinforce the intended purpose: why isn't Tourniquet played on the radio? Is it because of its blatant religious overtones? I had never heard the song until I got my hands on the CD. It is clearly one of their superior songs.

it is, definitely. it's not played because of blatant religious overtones (which Amy Lee said weren't religious overtones in the infamous interview that eventually led to Ben leaving the band), but because it has blatantly obvious drug overtones, i think. and, also probably because they never released it as a single, so i don't think that radio stations can play it without paying for each individual playing, or something stupid like that.

[PriZm]

I don't like Evanescence because I've seen on TV that some people who like them dress like goths and since I'm so badass that I'm never depressed, I'll never admit to like some people who are liked by people who appear depressed by the way they dress. Wait, what ? Oh they're musicians too and I should just listen to the fucking music to base my opinion on their art instead of the target audience ? No way, my penis is much too big. This is what you self-proclaimed anti-goth sound like. If you're going to bash the band, please do it in a manner that pertains to their actual art.

As for Tourniquet, well I think the drugs and religious references certainly don't help, but then there's the "I WANT TO DIE" and the "my suicide" at the end that would probably piss off overprotective parents to no end, so all in all it might be a good decision to not release it as a single. It's definitely one of their strongest song though, the syncopated instrumental part in the middle is the shit.

Seeing them live definitely revigorated my interest in the band, because, except for 'Your Star' and 'Lacrymosa' (which is a beautiful love song), The Open Door is a lot weaker than Fallen in my opinion.

[al3xand3r]

I like Amy's voice and, because of that, a friend pointed me to another band with a female as the main vocalist. It is a somewhat strange progression, since the musical styles are different, but I progressed from Evanescence to Nightwish. I had not even heard of it until a friend of mine recommended it. He lent me some CD's, I liked what I heard: a lot.

Then, after having received much playback on my DAP, I gave Nightwish a break and moved back to Evanescence (among other stuff as well, of course). I cannot say one is better than the other, since the styles are clearly different, but you might enjoy Nightwish. The main vocalist has more of an opera style to her voice, but it works rather well, in my opinion.

Check them out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjlTlNed4rI

[Mewtation]

Seriously, PriZm, I love you. Anyway, yeah, they're a good band, but not really my type of music. I think it's the drums, I don't know.

[Souliarc]

Radio stations have some weird equalization going on, some lack bass, others exaggerate it...

Radio stations compress the signal extremely. Even after the music has already been extremely compressed during mixing and mastering in the studio :-/

I pretty much never listen to the radio, unless my iPod is dead and I don't have my cd's with me in my car.

Just clarifying. Don't mind me, carry on.

[The Joker]

I actually liked The Open Door, though that just may be because I tend to like more experimental stuff in general. It just had a really, good sound that I gravitate to. I just like the whole symphony/rock/electronic combo sound.

Also, the beginning of Weight of the World sounds like a Prince of Persia fight song, which is awsome! They could've used that song for Warrior Within, & it would have fit better than Godsmack. Lacrymosa is great because it's a rocked out remix version of an old school symhpony. Though I will admit, I missed some of the more downetempo stuff they had on Origins & Fallen. Most of the stuff on Open Door is agressive.

One more thing, if you like Evanescence, I reccommend Thrice's Vheissu, it's really good as well, & has that hybridized sound that I enjoy.

[CE]

I don't like Evanescence because I've seen on TV that some people who like them dress like goths and since I'm so badass that I'm never depressed, I'll never admit to like some people who are liked by people who appear depressed by the way they dress. Wait, what ? Oh they're musicians too and I should just listen to the fucking music to base my opinion on their art instead of the target audience ? No way, my penis is much too big. This is what you self-proclaimed anti-goth sound like. If you're going to bash the band, please do it in a manner that pertains to their actual art.

As for Tourniquet, well I think the drugs and religious references certainly don't help, but then there's the "I WANT TO DIE" and the "my suicide" at the end that would probably piss off overprotective parents to no end, so all in all it might be a good decision to not release it as a single. It's definitely one of their strongest song though, the syncopated instrumental part in the middle is the shit.

Seeing them live definitely revigorated my interest in the band, because, except for 'Your Star' and 'Lacrymosa' (which is a beautiful love song), The Open Door is a lot weaker than Fallen in my opinion.

Well it's not as much as they suck, it's more that their music is so fucking annoying it makes me want to fling whatever device it's being played on into the middle of the goddamned road. Easily one of the most irritating bands I've ever listened to.

[megadave]

I used to like that band.

Also, it seems that their latest video strongly resembles AFI's "Love Like Winter" video. Same director, I believe.

I hate to say this, as I'm not a fan of MTV or most 'videos' in general, but Love Like Winter is one hell of a video. It almost restored my faith in the band after I was disappointed by Decemberunderground.

The main band of this discussion, I'm not a big fan of them. Nothing personal, I just don't get into it.

[parasoul]

I listened to them for awhile but eventually I found her voice to be too whiny so I stopped. Pretty good band.

[prophetik music]

the rock itself is great - after a while, i've found that all their songs start to sound the same. that doesn't stop me from liking 'My Immortal', 'Bring Me To Life', or a lot of other ones from 'Fallen'. i haven't heard their newest cd, though.

[Bahamut]

I listened to them for awhile but eventually I found her voice to be too whiny so I stopped. Pretty good band.

Yeah, once I discovered Nightwish, it was bye bye Evanescence. I started getting a higher standard for vocals and song arrangement then.

[Mewtation]

As far as female vocals go in commercial rock/metal, I dislike both Lee and Turunen. Lee's voice, as was mentioned earlier, is a bit whiny sounding, and I just dislike Turunen's style of singing. Nightwish, I hope Hietala takes over vocals, because he's really good. But, for female vocals, I like Cristina Scabbia (Lacuna Coil) and Angela Gossow (Arch Enemy).

[Arek the Absolute]

I'd like this if i was still interested in acting gothy and pretending to be depressed.
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[Arek the Absolute]

Well it's not as much as they suck, it's more that their music is so fucking annoying it makes me want to fling whatever device it's being played on into the middle of the goddamned road. Easily one of the most irritating bands I've ever listened to.
double post in agreement

[PriZm]

From what I've heard, Nightwish is more speedy than Evanescence, which make them lack the heaviness that I like. Also, they're a lot more dramatic sounding and less groovy, in my opinion. I couldn't find the groovy, danceable, almost funky feel that Tourniquet (verse) and Bring me to Life have in Nightwish songs.

Of course, if you're more about technical prowess and sick arrangements, Nightwish might be your thing.

[parasoul]

As far as female vocals go in commercial rock/metal, I dislike both Lee and Turunen. Lee's voice, as was mentioned earlier, is a bit whiny sounding, and I just dislike Turunen's style of singing. Nightwish, I hope Hietala takes over vocals, because he's really good. But, for female vocals, I like Cristina Scabbia (Lacuna Coil) and Angela Gossow (Arch Enemy).

I like Scabbia but I prefer Anneke van Giersbergen from The Gathering. Actually, she's my favorite singer, man or woman.

[Bahamut]

I like Scabbia but I prefer Anneke van Giersbergen from The Gathering. Actually, she's my favorite singer, man or woman.

Is it because she plays the guitar too?

[parasoul]

Is it because she plays the guitar too?

I usually don't remember that she plays the guitar unless I see her occasionally use one in concert footage. I just love her voice.

[Sunflare]

Yeah, once I discovered Nightwish, it was bye bye Evanescence. I started getting a higher standard for vocals and song arrangement then.

Did you like their latest studio album (Once) too ? I listened to it for a while but I can't stand it anymore... and the Live is even worse (you don't cover High Hopes when you can't sing).
Well , since Tarja isn't part of the group anymore something good might come.
And I still prefer within temptation.