Super Mario World - Castle badass

[zircon]

http://www.zirconstudios.com/zirc-SMW.mp3

(Last update 1/10 11:43pm)

Started it tonight just a little while ago, more updates to come VERY soon. It's still rough, but... yeah. Feedback? :>

EDIT: Updated w/ new stuff, better production

EDIT 2: More arrangement, better mastering, MORE BADASS

[Escariot]

Analysis:
» 0:00 - 0:18 - Nice ambient intro. Appreciate the effects coming in at 0:10
» 0:18 - 0:27 - The first time through the melody gets a tiny bit lost.
» 0:28 - 0:34 - Adding the harmony helps it stick out a bit.
» 0:34 - 0:37 - Nice drum lead-in. The sound of the drums work well for the feel you have going on right now
» 0:37 - 0:46 - The strings add a really nice touch to it. Building in the layers. But it almost sounds a little bit quiet. I dunno.

EDIT 1: (Jan 9th, 2007; 2:28PM)
» 0:37 - 0:46 - In addition to the strings you have a synth playing octaves in a 3, 3, 3, 3, 4 pattern. Nice addition, builds the layers, no longer requires the strings to pop out.
» 0:46 - 0:55 - New synth and a new take on the melody. The run down starting at 0:51 sounds a little bit rough. Not sure what to, though.
» 0:55 - 1:14 - This new arpeggio type synth coming in really contributes to the song in a way that makes me happy in my pants.
» 1:05 - 1:14 - Same with the dark organ you have going on. Really gives you that SMW Castle feel.

Conclusion
Pretty damn good for 0:51 seconds. Will be waiting for an update.

EDIT 1: (Jan 9th, 2007; 2:28PM)
In less than a day, the awesomeness of this mix has increased tenfold. Keep giving me updates and I'll gladly keep giving feedback.

[Mustin]

Yeah man, cool stuff. One of my favourite game tunes ever. I say you do something a little outside of the box on this one to add some spice. Say, some ripping guitar shits over the awesome beat you have.

But yeah, I like the start of it. Go crazy with it.

[pu_freak]

Sounds real good for what you have now. But I agree that the strings section could be a bit louder.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Excuse me for being more of a critic, rather than an analyst. The two paerts in the beginning, (the main theme, and all you've got going on in the background) take too long to either integrate, or separate. Meaning, it took long enough for me to think in that small part in the start, "Where's it going?". Of course, when it all breaks in it's fine. As a matter of fact, I can't wait to hear the next update. But until then, just a little thing to think about.

You know, Zircon, I used to just go after games I like, and judge mixers accordingly. But after the meetup, I checked out some of your stuff, and I'm impressed.

...You know, there's still room on my project... *cough*

[Drake5017]

I'm by no means a remixer of any sort but I have to say that was awesome. I really liked the way all the different materials and instruments really blended together despite being from completely different places. You have the uber ambient stuff, then it treads into trance/techno without leaving that frightning feeling of the castle behind. Combine that with the organ added to the tentative end and it makes my blood run cold. I hope to see an update soon.

[pu_freak]

I totally agree with Escariot's updated post, the extra notes add much to the beginning and the added part... well it just gives me that real SMW castle vibe. It feels so... whole. I really can't wait for another update!

[Escariot]

I totally agree with Escariot's updated post, the extra notes add much to the beginning and the added part... well it just gives me that real SMW castle vibe. It feels so... whole. I really can't wait for another update!
I just wish I had the extended vocabulary to really say what I wanted to

[Robotaki]

Fck yeah. Great source tune so you've got a lot to work with here. Like everyone else, waiting tentatively for updates. =P

[zircon]

Again, thanks everyone so far for the feedback. More stuff added!

[SSB]

ugh. i want your vast library of VSTs and samples :(

[Sole Signal]

Pretty tight, man. Great groove and production. Just curious, how do you go about programming your drums? Sliced loops? A bunch of layered one shot samples? It just seems like your drums always have a certain feel to them.



http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5967

*shameless plug for just one more judges's opinion about the Bond vs. Goldeneye issue :P

[zircon]

One of the grooves is sliced + processed RMX, the main groove is my own sequencing from oneshots, and then the crunchy beat later is from Reason. Most of my drum sequences are built in a similar manner - I prefer to use oneshots for the foundation and then build on top.

[Cloral]

I like what you've got so far. That castle theme clearly is calling out for this sort of treatment. If you can maybe double the length of what you've got there thus far, I'd add it to my regular playlist. Keep up the good work!

[M@]

I think what I love most about this is how it develops. I tried listening to just the 'chorus' (for want of a better word) from around the 1:24 mark, and it just doesn't sound as good without the build up from the rest of the piece. It was like trying to climb a mountain by skipping out everything other than the summit, thus missing out on a wonderful experience. The trouble I always ran up against when I dabbled in arranging myself was that, due to my somewhat shallow levels of creativity, my pieces always seemed to go from A to B with no real fanfare. This is the complete opposite, everything here is nicely varied without anything sounding superfluous, and so it all works together, climbing to something awesome.

Bravo!

[Drake5017]

Hey I'm sure you've noticed this about now but incase you didnt in you updated version in the first 2 or 3 seconds there is a very high pitched balloon whistle.

[zircon]

Haha yeah that's just a rendering error. Gonna be fixed on the next one.

[Synth]

This is pretty badass. I'm digging the little solo at :51. I see no problem with it, except I would like to see the rythem guitars beefed up a bit.

AND FINISH YOUR SOR2 COLLAB

[Robotaki]

Just wondering harmonically how you plan to make this theme your own. I'm trying to think of ways to modulate key and play around with progressions but it's kinda hard with such a distinctive tune. I always wanna do what the melody follows in the original >.<

[pu_freak]

The guitar definitely adds a dark badass touch. I love the sudden change from organ into... trance stuff (and NO I don't know the difference between saws, phasers and whatever). This stuff just keeps getting better and better.

[Mustin]

oh snaps son

Guitar shits is a nice touch. This is rockin'! I think you've got it from here on out.

Good times.

[Moltare]

V.shiny! I look forward to its lengthening with anticipation...

[electric concerto]

The bell at :19 hurts my ears... too peircing..

Something about the drums I find to be... somewhat low quality... plain... unexcitable...

The lead clashes with the guitar... badly...

Those are the things I noticed... hope they help... Overall, pretty good for a start, but a lot of work still ahead...

[Synth]

The bell at :19 hurts my ears... too peircing..

Something about the drums I find to be... somewhat low quality... plain... unexcitable...

The lead clashes with the guitar... badly...

Those are the things I noticed... hope they help... Overall, pretty good for a start, but a lot of work still ahead...

.....................lol

[zircon]

Awesome.



In other news, update for this coming soon.

[Steben]

Listening to this wip made me very happy.

Looking forward to more.

[Blackwinged Saron]

This sounds like what I'd hear if Tim Burton did a mario movie. It's most enjoyable.

[Hum4n After All]

Fantastic. I'm hoping it's gonna be longer. 3 minutes +.

[Arek the Absolute]

Very very well done WIP. Though short, it is very powerful. I cannot wait to hear the final version of this song.

[Random Hero]

Damn, I really like this. Can't wait till it's done.
Only a couple of sudjestions though:
I would love to hear more of that organ; It needs (in my mine anyway) to play something in the 1:24-1:37 section. Actually in the same section there is "something" missing. In the orginal, there is a high whistle-type sound that plays a variation of 4 notes 3 times followed by a variation of the ending (sorry my terminalogy sucks, just listen to the original i'm sure you will hear it). Maybe you could have your organ play some variation of those missing notes (if they are there, I can't hear them, lol).
Other then that, make it longer and it's awesome.
Ryan
PS. do you mind if i ask what is the source for that organ sample? Thanx!

[AndiNo]

Wow. After hearing this (relatively short) remix I feel so small ^^
I'm just trying to make my own music/remix, but now I've lost self-confidence ;)

But one thing could be changed: the organ was really cool but it should play a bit longer instead of being replaced by the guitar.

[Dash Myoku]

Wow...just wow.

Why can't I be that good. T.T

Anyways, it's really awesome. Though I'd love to hear more original ideas mixed in with this.

[megadave]

This fuckin' rocks.

[WesPip]

Awesome.



In other news, update for this coming soon.
NOT SOON ENOUGH.

[Synth]

NOT SOON ENOUGH.

Come on zircon, don't leave us hangin

[Doulifée]

/me is speechless... as usual, good Zircon material in progress.

[yoshi1001]

Right now it sounds like music for a trailer of some incredibly dark Mario game/movie. I can't wait to see what happens when you flesh it out.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Mmm... badassery

[Synth]

WHERE THE HELL IS THE UPDATE

but seriously :P

[The Joker]

This is great, man. The only thing I could think to add is, like maybe at around 1:06 you use a lead guitar to play the main melody, at least until you reintroduce the lead synth at 1:24. It'd make a nice layer for that string backing as well.

[ocremixfan]

Yeah... I was expecting nothing less from you, zircon! You sure knows how to get the job done!
Awesome piece in progress! Get it finished, please! :D

[Nutritious]

Wow, yeah, I'm liking this so far. REALLY digging that guitar riff.

[zircon]

DONE! But I'm not posting it :)

[Theory of N]

....................:O
wtf! why not?! You've made me sad, Zircon...

[Arek the Absolute]

DONE! But I'm not posting it :)

Now that is just wrong.

[The Instrumental Light]

this is pretty awesome, of course i actually listened to this before this was posted. zircon told me a secret name to get to his remix. but as for the new one, ill try to convince him in to showing me it. but if he hears me say this, maybe he wont, its between a rock and a hard place. lol. yeah but i can see what you mean by needing to finish it, zircon(now its finished but this was beforehand). great mix! keep up your awesome work!:smile:

[Villainelle]

Hopefully DJP will just hurry up and direct post it then. :D

[ocremixfan]

DONE! But I'm not posting it :)

Not fair! :(

[JoyBoy]

I'll pay for this track if you want to post it to all members.

what do you say deal? :)

[The Unsung Plumber]

Hopefully DJP will just hurry up and direct post it then. :D

Holy Crap, DJP listened to you! (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01558/)

[Liontamer]

Review thread is here: http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8061

Enjoy the completed work.