OverClocked ReMix Tetris Attack tournament

[Mewtation]

Okay, I'm going to lead this thing. Here are the rules:

1) To join, post in this thread. You have until midnight EST on Tuesday, January 16th, 2007. If you decide to drop out before then, you may, just PM me and I can remove your name from the list.

2) I'll put all entrants into a single-elimination bracket. Positions will be decided randomly. In the occurrence of an odd number of participants, the last person to be (randomly) decided will be given a bye for the first round. You will be notified by PM who your opponent is, and when I get a bracket drawn out, it will be posted in this thread. Once a match has been decided, I will notify both participants of the next round.

3) You will have three weeks to organize your game with your opponent. We will be using the SNES version of Tetris Attack, so how you organize your game is up to you, as long as it gets done. Wins will be based on a Vs. best of five points match. (In other words, there's no need to play anymore once one person has reached three points.) I would appreciate no last minute results, as the sooner people get their match on, the sooner I can figure up winners. Times for each round will be decided depending on number of entrants. If the match is not decided by the alotted time, then both people forfeit. If one person in the group is being deadbeat about it, notify me, and I'll see what I can do.

4) When an outcome to a match is decided, both people must PM me with the results. That way, I can verify that both people gave me the same result. (I'll have the bracket, so I'll know who plays who.) I'll update the bracket accordingly. Oh, also, a person may forfeit. In this case, only the person forfeiting has to PM me.

5) Winner of this tournament will be allowed to choose a game for next month's tournament, as we are hoping this can be a continuous event. More details when it comes to that. As for other prizes, I really have nothing except bragging rights. Maybe if a successful sig maker could whip up something cool *hinthint,sigmakers!*, but don't plan on that.

If you have any questions, or feel I left something out, feel free to PM me, and I'll clarify things! And hopefully this will work out, and be a fun event. Best of luck!

Instructions:
First, you need a netplay-enabled emulator (I suggest the latest version of ZSNES, link provided in Links below) and Hamachi (ditto on the link). ZSNES comes in its own package, so just download and extract from the ZIP. As for Hamachi, you'll need to install it. Once installed and configured, click on the Join Network button and join network "OCR Tournaments" and password "ocremix", both without the quotes. (I would appreciate that you do not join the network unless you are ACTUALLY in the tournament.) Once connected to Hamachi, you will have a special network IP. Open ZSNES, and click on NETPLAY, then on INTERNET. It will ask you to either start a server or connect to server. You can work this out amongst yourselves, because it really doesn't matter who does who, just be sure to give the other person your Hamachi IP. Once connected to each other, you'll have to both load the same ROM file (or compatible, they have to be the same type). One person can send a copy of the file to the other person, if necessary. After this, the game should start, and you can both play!

Links:

ZSNES:
There is apparently a new version of ZSNES out, v1.50. v1.50 has no netplay, so you will need to use v1.42.
1.42 (Windows):
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zsnes/zsnesw142.zip
1.42 (Mac):
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zsnes/zsnes142.zip

Hamachi:
http://hamachi.cc/

As for the ROM, we're not allowed to link to it, so you'll have to obtain it on your own.


Participants so far:

Mewtation
kamoh
Atmuh
Noodle
Calpis
Xerol Oplan
Geoffrey Taucer
Psychotic Ninja
Bren
linkspast
DarkCecil13
dPaladin
LongeBane
FiremanJoe
Arek the Absolute
vega12
ProjectSpam
the-almighty-tallest

[kamoh]

Put me in, although I'd suggest a shorter timeframe for each round (1-2 weeks).

[Mewtation]

Put me in, although I'd suggest a shorter timeframe for each round (1-2 weeks).
Thanks, I'll throw that in!

[atmuh]

I am far inferior to the world at this game. ITS ON!

[Noodle]

I'll play.

[Mewtation]

Added. (ten)

[Xerol Oplan]

Can anyone help me get 1.42 working in Ubuntu? I'm on AIM for another hour or so.

[Mewtation]

Can anyone help me get 1.42 working in Ubuntu? I'm on AIM for another hour or so.
I don't know anything about Linux, so I can't help you, sorry. Hopefully someone else can...

EDIT:
I haven't added you to the list yet. When you get things working, let me know and I'll add you.

[Calpis]

I want in on this. I just need to get used to playing this game with something other than an SNES pad.

[Mewtation]

I want in on this. I just need to get used to playing this game with something other than an SNES pad.
Added, and you can do what I did, if you can spare it, which is pick up some sort of USB controller. I use a wired XBox 360 controller, myself. $30 at GameStop.

[Calpis]

Added, and you can do what I did, if you can spare it, which is pick up some sort of USB controller. I use a wired XBox 360 controller, myself. $30 at GameStop.
I do have a USB gamepad, I just play a lot faster and better with the original SNES pad, so I'll be practicing a little this week.

[Xerol Oplan]

I get errors when trying to build it under both "methods" I came across.

xerol@xerol-laptop:~/apps/zsnes_1_42/src$ ./configure --enable-release
checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
xerol@xerol-laptop:~/apps/zsnes_1_42/src$ sh ./autogen.sh && gmake && gmake install
Generating build information using aclocal and autoconf...
./autogen.sh: line 6: aclocal: command not found
checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one

The first came from a FAQ and the second from the actual documentation. I can't seem to find this "aclocal" anywhere.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

If you can give me instructions on how to hook a SNES control up to my comp, I'll do it. I imagine some manner of USB device must exist that would do it, but I don't know what that would be or where to get it.

[atmuh]

If you can give me instructions on how to hook a SNES control up to my comp, I'll do it. I imagine some manner of USB device must exist that would do it, but I don't know what that would be or where to get it.

I'm not sure if you're OK with using a PSX/PS2 controller, but I got a USB adapter for one at Radioshack for $10 and it works quite nicely.

[Xerol Oplan]

I am officially in on this shit.

[Mewtation]

Added! And Tauce, you could pick up a USB gamepad, they're, like, thirty bucks at most. There are SNES to USB converters out there, but I've never seen one in stores.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Just ordered a SNES to USB adapter from ebay.

Count me in, assuming it gets here.

Also, Siamey damn well better participate in this. It would be nice if Bahamut would as well.

Are we doing Vs or Time Trial? I think it would be cool to do tournaments for both.

[Mewtation]

Wins will be based on a Vs. best out of five points match.
Though, if demand was up, we COULD do both...

[Xerol Oplan]

Maybe the timetrial could be an ongoing highscore thing, and we could just keep a top 10 table. Although isn't the time trial single player? I guess you could have the second player be a "witness" to report the score back.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

No, there's such a thing as two-player timetrial -- and the mechanics are different enough from 1p time trial that the differences in scores are HUGE.

[atmuh]

Anyone feel like playing?
I am terrible and need some practice.

[Xerol Oplan]

Sure. You'll have to connect to me though because I can't see who's who on Hamachi (or just give me your Hamachi IP).

[Psychotic Ninja]

I'm in as soon as I find the ROM of Tetris Attack, which shouldn't be too hard.


Edit: I found the ROM and i'm in.

[Mewtation]

Added! Also, I was thinking, Tauce, this tournament will be Vs. only. If someone wants to do Time Attack, they can specify that if they win and choose the game.

[Bren]

Whaaa? Why didn't I see this sooner. It's not too late for me to join in is it?

[linkspast]

Ok I am in.

So is it necessary to have the same version of the rom?

And if it is could we post a link which has a link of where we could all get the same rom, or dose that break the rules?

[atmuh]

Ok I am in.

So is it necessary to have the same version of the rom?

And if it is could we post a link which has a link of where we could all get the same rom, or dose that break the rules?
All that matters is the filename. If the filenames are different then one person changes theirs. It isn't too challenging. And no, the link cannot be posted.

[kamoh]

It's against OCR rules to post a link to the rom - at least I believe it is.
The mods can say some TOS bullshit and ban you if you do, although I don't think they would, I would just safely say DON'T POST IT, and we'll trade same copies and make sure that everyone has the same copy when they actually play against eachother.

This means we have like ten players, right? Mewtation, expect an IM from me very very soon about tournament format :)

I'll try and get Bahamut to join.

[Xerol Oplan]

We should have an IRC channel so we can all meet up and discuss...things. Like #ocrsnes or something.

[kamoh]

We should have an IRC channel so we can all meet up and discuss...things. Like #ocrsnes or something.
And matchmaking maybe? (sorry to draw parallels to the OCRCL, but I will), in the chess league I just open an AIM chat and invite every player who is online.

[Xerol Oplan]

Well, IRC's a bit better because then you don't have to message 400 different people, plus my AIM list is 100% full so I can't add anyone new anyway.

The channel's up now anyway, #ocrsnes on ETG.

[Mewtation]

Added and added, Bren and linkspast.

The channel's up now anyway, #ocrsnes on ETG.
I want ops!

[Pi_R_[]ed]

What the hell, man? I thought I was in charge of this?

Grr...

Ah, oh well. Can I at least be awarded some sort of co-administrative position?

[Mewtation]

Not to be harsh or anything, but no. I mean, what would it be, a figurehead position?

[Bahamut]

Just some advice - you probably want to keep it one person heading the comp, and the winner choosing what game and possibly the settings to be done with it, with the head posting the winner's choice.

[Mewtation]

Just some advice - you probably want to keep it one person heading the comp, and the winner choosing what game and possibly the settings to be done with it, with the head posting the winner's choice.
Hmm, all right. That's a better idea.

[Xerol Oplan]

The IRC channel is more of an informal thing, just there to play practice games and have fun. It's nothing serious.

[DarkCecil13]

Mew, add me to the list. I'm already in #ocrsnes on irc.enterthegame.com and I urge other contestants to join us there.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Not to be harsh or anything, but no. I mean, what would it be, a figurehead position?

I don't know, and frankly, I don't care. All I know is I had this in the planning, and was just working the kinks out so, not only would it work for me, but I could answer any questions that came up, so I had some experience.

Now, not only did I have it stolen from me, but I can say I'm a little offended that there are people on the first forum that knew I had it planned, that went ahead and joined this anyway.

[linkspast]

Is there any one who wants to play? I would like to try using hamichi.

[dPaladin]

I would like to join, though I'm horrible at the game.

[Mewtation]

I would like to join, though I'm horrible at the game.
Ha, join the club! Added.

[LongeBane]

i am in .

[FiremanJoe]

I haven't played in years, and I only own the GB version, but it's a great game - Count me in.

[Bren]

For some reason, I can't get UDP to work with my machine...TCP works just fine, and I was told that UDP is better for hosting online gaming. Would anyone know of any possible reasons why UDP won't work?

[kamoh]

ed;213892']I don't know, and frankly, I don't care. All I know is I had this in the planning, and was just working the kinks out so, not only would it work for me, but I could answer any questions that came up, so I had some experience.

Now, not only did I have it stolen from me, but I can say I'm a little offended that there are people on the first forum that knew I had it planned, that went ahead and joined this anyway.

Sorry, Pi. You need to seize the opportunity when you get the chance.

Mew: Not cool, though. A red flag came up in my head when this thread was made because of the above reason (among others whenever a contest is created on OCR because I've been in charge of more of this kind of stuff than anyone else). It's your call now, but there's always a certain level of PR involved with running a competition.

[atmuh]

ed;213892']I don't know, and frankly, I don't care. All I know is I had this in the planning, and was just working the kinks out so, not only would it work for me, but I could answer any questions that came up, so I had some experience.

Now, not only did I have it stolen from me, but I can say I'm a little offended that there are people on the first forum that knew I had it planned, that went ahead and joined this anyway.
wah wah wah go cry

[dPaladin]

We had a Tetris Attack tournament on ZSNES four years ago. Was that your idea too?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

No, but I didn't see anyone else starting one until I suggested it, and I stepped forward to lead it. In fact, it took two posts for anyone to even provide any recognition I mentioned it at all. Shows how willing everyone was to join. Is it my fault for holding back a day or two? yes, but that's rhetorical. Don't answer it.. I was making sure I had everything set. While there were people around more suited to running the it, I didn't see them starting anything back up before this came around.

Look, I don't want any hard feelings. Some recognition is all I ask.

EDIT: And... sign me up.... [/ashamed]

[atmuh]

ed;214183']No, but I didn't see anyone else starting one until I suggested it, and I stepped forward to lead it. In fact, it took two posts for anyone to even provide any recognition I mentioned it at all. Shows how willing everyone was to join. Is it my fault for holding back a day or two? yes, but that's rhetorical. Don't answer it.. I was making sure I had everything set. While there were people around more suited to running the it, I didn't see them starting anything back up before this came around.

Look, I don't want any hard feelings. Some recognition is all I ask.
grizzow up

[Arek the Absolute]

We had a Tetris Attack tournament on ZSNES four years ago. Was that your idea too?

Ahaha.
Seriously, this isn't an issue to be "whining" about. It is hardly an ISSUE at all, and something you definitely could have just taken to pms and not drama up this thread with.

also, sizign me up

[linkspast]

Is there any one who wants to play? I would like to try using hamichi.
QFE

Really... just send me a message on Hamichi

[Xerol Oplan]

We're all hanging out in IRC, just hop on there if you want pickup games.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

linkspast and I just played a very laggy round. Does anyone know what settings to use to get the lowest system requirements possible?

[Pi_R_[]ed]

Hopefully, people won't ignore my last post, and instead ignore the fact that this is a double-post.

I decided if I'm going to put the whole "my-idea-first" schtick behind me, I'm going to overcompensate by helping out like nobody's fucking business.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k263/Pi_R_Squared/SIGGLES.jpg

Not the best, but all you have so far, right? I left room for a name, which we don't have yet. I figure something simple and obvious like "OCR Gaming League" should cover it, but thats not up to me (grr...). I knew I said I wanted to see Mario Kart in the future, and Street Fighter should be on everyone's lists, too. Of course, you could just replace Ryu with someone/something else easy. Up to everyone what to do. Nice, yes?

[kamoh]

Are we going to use SNES exclusively? I have some Genesis and NES games that I'd love to get played later on, as wall as there are plenty others I'm sure that you guys would like to play.

[Bren]

Are we going to use SNES exclusively? I have some Genesis and NES games that I'd love to get played later on, as wall as there are plenty others I'm sure that you guys would like to play.

I believe that was the original intention.

[Calpis]

I played a little on ZSNES last night on my PC Gamepad. If worse comes to worse and I end up having to play with that pad, I won't be much of a threat to the better players. I mean, I can still pull off 5 and 6 chains but it's with much difficulty as I just can't control the cursor and flip as quickly as I normally can. This is opposed to when I use the SNES pad, I can usually do 10 chains with the same amount of effort.

All in all, I might just pick up a PS2 to USB converter as I probably don't have the time to wait for the shipping on an SNES converter. I'll probably be on IRC later tonight to try some pick up games if anyone wants to join. I still need to figure out Hamichi though.... Does anyone have a quick tutorial handy?

[Xerol Oplan]

How's "OCR Emulation League" sound?

[kamoh]

How's "OCR Emulation League" sound?
The mods would put the kbosh on that immediately, since they don't want the image that they condone illegal emulators. I think OCR Gaming League would be a better bet than that.

Still thinking of an idea...

[suzumebachi]

The mods would put the kbosh on that immediately, since they don't want the image that they condone illegal emulators. I think OCR Gaming League would be a better bet than that.

Still thinking of an idea...

You're forgetting that this site was originally founded as a subdomain of an emulation site. I don't think there'd be any problems so long as you refrain from linking to illegal rom websites in the threads and crud.

[Xerol Oplan]

Zircon said he's fine with it on IRC, and it describes what it is perfectly.

[Xerol Oplan]

Anyone for a game right now? Get me on AIM.

[kamoh]

I've been talking on the IRC channel about tournament format and some rules and other things which I'm not going to apologize for because I'm knowledgable on these sorts of things. I'd just like to see a show of support or disdain for the following:

1) NON-POOL SCHEDULE (recommended)

First 2 weeks: All players are assigned four opponents to play. Some scoring system is assigned.
Last 2 weeks: The top 35% (rounded-up) of first-round finishers are assigned to a championship bracket (seeded with byes). Everyone else goes to a consolation bracket (seeded with byes).

Estimated maximum number of matches: 6-7

2) POOL-BRACKET FORMAT

First 2 weeks: Each player is drawn into some number of pools (probably 4).
Second 2 weeks: Each pool's top two finishers play in an eight-team bracket.
*NOTE* I don't like this one - it's not particularly complete or even.

Estimated maximum number of matches: 6-8

3) POOL-POOL-SEMIS-FINALS FORMAT

First 10 days: Each player is drawn into some number of pools (4, 5, or 6)
Second 10 days: Each pools top two finishers play in one of two pools.
Final 8 days: Each second-round pool's top two finishers play semi-finals and finals.

Estimated maximum number of matches: 8-10

So these would be significantly more matches than a simple single elimination bracket. I particularly like the non-pool option (1) because everyone plays the same number of first round games and the bracket is skewed in favor of higher finishers. And there are fewer matches.

I don't think most people can fit in 8 to 10 games in a month without just brooding at their computers. Even 2 a week might be a little tough for some people (shouldn't be though). But I'd really like to throw my weight behind idea (1).

[Mewtation]

Dudes, I'm sick as hell right now, and also I think my controller broke earlier. Hopefully I'll be sane enough to continute orchestrating this stuff, and I can remap my control if necessary. Also, kamoh, looks good. I can't comprehend that at this hour and in this state of mind, but know that I looked at it, blinked a few times, and wrote this post! I'll consider it when I feel better, hopefully tomorrow, as you seem to know what you're talking about.

[Calpis]

Kamoh:
I like the first version as well. It's the way that most tournaments I've been in before do it, so I like it that way.

[LongeBane]

kamoh for prez

[vega12]

Count me in. Could be fun :)

[kamoh]

Kamoh:
I like the first version as well. It's the way that most tournaments I've been in before do it, so I like it that way.

I just wanna emphasize that it isn't pool play - it's hard to explain it without pen, paper, and a presentation.
What I do is make a big circle, and put "x" points on the circle (where x is the number of players).
Each player is assigned to a point on the circle (at random)
Each player is assigned matches against the two next players both clockwise and counter-clockwise away from them in the circle.
If a player wishes to leave, their opponents are given replacement matches easily just by removing the leaving player from the circle.
There's other stuff :P

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Ok, I'm good to go.

If anybody wants their ass handed to them, gimme a holler.

[ProjectSpam]

Alright, I'm in.

[kamoh]

Bump, for great justice.

[Mewtation]

Sorry for the delays, everyone's added to date. (If I missed someone, let me know.) Bump, and kamoh, the ideas sound good, maybe I'll just put you in charge of organizing brackets or whatever, if you want.

[linkspast]

Is there a way we can watch matches as they happen? I would much like to see some to compare my self to the competition... and I would much like to see the finials...

[Xerol Oplan]

I'd like to find a way to record matches, at least. I've got the webspace, I can host the captures, and it'd be interesting to be able to see replays.

[Mewtation]

ZSNES has a record feature, if I'm not mistaken.

EDIT: Less than twenty-four hours remain!

[Jimmy Jazz]

Count me in.

[Pi_R_[]ed]

ed;214183']EDIT: And... sign me up.... [/ashamed]

I'm not signed up yet. But you can just leave me out anyway, unless nobody minds the laggiest game of Tetris attaxk they've ever played. When I made the comment, I had forgotten that my laptop is still busted, and I would have to play on dial-up. By the next tournament, I'll be up and running again.

[Mewtation]

Sorry about that, I missed you. You sure? Only 69 minutes remain for sign-up!

[Mewtation]

Double post. Signups are now over, matches will be announced later.

[kamoh]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7048/ocrsnes1lv.png

RULES (also not official):
Find your schedule above (should be easy to tell which one is yours), and play the four opponents that you have been assigned.
You are responsible for contacting your opponent through PM, AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, etc...nobody will hold your hand, you must initiate battle.
If you are unable to contact your opponent or are having troubles actually playing them, you should alert Mew to the situation - he will issue restitution penalties if necessary.
Play best 3-out-of-5 matches, posting results with the score out of five as well.

The First Round will end on February 2nd, at 11:59 PM EST.

Players are ranked in order using the following tiebreakers:
1) Most games won.
2) Most games lost.
3) Most points won minus points lost (differential).
4) Most points won.
5) Most points lost.
6-10) Criteria 1-5 in order for games vs. tied opponents.
11-15) Criteria 1-5 in order for games vs. similar opponents.
16-20) Strength of criteria 1-5 in order, using the addition of opponent ranks.
21) One-point playoff.

Playoffs - February 3rd to ???
The best 6 players advance to the championship bracket. The top 2 of those recieve byes into the semi-finals, the other 4 play in the quarterfinals.
The champion of the tournament picks the next month's game.

The remaining players who actually played games advance to a consolation bracket, with as many byes necessary to create a single-elimination tournament.

[linkspast]

Looks good. . . Except I fight Geoffery Taucer, I wanted to see his legendary skills... But now it looks like ill get to experience them.

[Arek the Absolute]

Bren eh? Seems I have some practice to do.

[Mewtation]

Looks good to me, kamoh.

[Xerol Oplan]

I beat Atmuh 3-0, he said we didn't have to play 5 since I already won three, although it looks like you want us to play 5. Which is it?

And do we PM results to someone, or just post here?

[Mewtation]

You don't have to play five if someone wins best out of before. PM results to both kamoh and myself, so I can keep track and he can update the scoreboard.

[kamoh]

You don't have to play five if someone wins best out of before. PM results to both kamoh and myself, so I can keep track and he can update the scoreboard.
Scoreboard currently dead due to WinXP update on my end :P

[Mewtation]

O....KAY. PM results to me so I can keep track of things.

[linkspast]

What dose winning entail

[Mewtation]

If you mean what do you win, basically just bragging rights and the ability to pick next month's game.

[Jimmy Jazz]

If you mean what do you win, basically just bragging rights and the ability to pick next month's game.

Awesome.

Can the victor participate in the contest for the game he/she picks?

[Mewtation]

Awesome.

Can the victor participate in the contest for the game he/she picks?
Why, of course.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Just beat linkspast 3 - 0.

Do we post results here or PM mewtation?

[Mewtation]

PM them to me so I can keep track, but you can put it in the thread, too, if you want. I need to have a record I can keep an eye on.

[kamoh]

I think that the original took me about 2 hours to do and 3 more to refine (not straight hours).

This one took about an hour to remake from scratch.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/343/ocrsnesjb6.png

[FiremanJoe]

Nice one Kamoh, looks good! =D

..but why am I up against Tauce? =P

[tweek]

...but why am I up against Tauce? =P

Because God has a wonderful sense of humor. Good luck mate....:)

[FiremanJoe]

Because God has a wonderful sense of humor. Good luck mate....:)

Yeah, he and I have played once before. ...ouch.

Most games I've played have been plagued with lag and stuff, and if you've ever seen my keyboard.. clunkiest POS you've ever seen. I'm gonna have carpel tunnels one day.

[linkspast]

Yeah, he and I have played once before. ...ouch.

Most games I've played have been plagued with lag and stuff, and if you've ever seen my keyboard.. clunkiest POS you've ever seen. I'm gonna have carpel tunnels one day.

Because God has a wonderful sense of humor. Good luck mate....:)

well.. let me say... that the it will be a quick game... Id say our total playing time was slightely over 2 minutes.. for all the games.

[kamoh]

well.. let me say... that the it will be a quick game... Id say our total playing time was slightely over 2 minutes.. for all the games.Tauce plays me and fire as well - trust me, I didn't want that...

...it's in alphabetical order btw.

[Xerol Oplan]

http://forums.thasauce.net/viewtopic.php?t=408

This will be an ongoing thing, for anyone who wants to keep playing past the end of this tournament.

[dPaladin]

Wow, McAfee Firewall and ZSNES don't work well together.

I opened ZSNES to practice with DarkCecil13 and McAfee gave me the standard pop-up "omg ur program is conecting 2 intarnet," but instead of allowing me to close the window and grant access to zsnes, it hangs and seizes control of my mouse.

So I reboot and we're going to play again later. I've allowed zsnes internet access through McAfee. I type in DC13's IP and hit connect, but I'm using an old version of ZSNES. That's easily solved -- I close the program, download 1.42, extract it and run it. I hit connect again and McAfee pops up again with the "LOL this program h4s changed since ulast ran it!!1" window and I get the same problem as before. I alt-tab to the chat and tell DC13 that I'll reboot and disable the firewall to play.

I just rebooted. Before making it into Windows, I got a STOP error: IRC1_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (iirc). So I'm posting on my brother's computer atm.

Anyway, my apologies to DC13 for the wasted time. Now, can anyone recommend a new firewall/AV combo? I've heard good things about that Kaspersky one.

[Xerol Oplan]

I may have to drop out here. Apparently in linux ZSNES doesn't play well with dual monitor support, which means I'd have to reboot every time I wanted to play. I'm going to try to get a crappy windows machine up tomorrow.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Really? I'm playing on dual monitors, and I seem to be doing fine.

[dPaladin]

Really? I'm playing on dual monitors, and I seem to be doing fine.
I can verify this statement.

[Xerol Oplan]

Really? I'm playing on dual monitors, and I seem to be doing fine.

You're running linux? Apparently, it's not a problem just with zsnes, but with anything opengl accelerated.

[Calpis]

Just played DarkCecil. He pwnt me the first round, but I won the rest. (4-1) Almost all of them were pretty good matches though.

[kamoh]

everyone,

once one player has won 3 games, you need not play anymore.

DarkCecil, your games have been logged as a 1-3 loss and a 3-0 win, accordingly.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7628/ocrsnes3bn.png

I made a total-standings table, as you can see above. It's not as simple as the other one, but I haven't decided which one I should update.

The darkest shaded players are the ones with semi-final berths currently, the mid shaded the ones with quarter-final berths, and the light shaded ones are the people that aren't getting into the playoffs.

[linkspast]

So what happens if (when) some one drops out or wont play?

[kamoh]

So what happens if (when) some one drops out or wont play?

If Mew agrees to it, I'd like to introduce the bypass system into this tournament like I've done with the OCRCL. It's a little bit difficult for people to figure out, but it works out right.

When an opponent isn't around or doesn't want to play, you can "bypass" them.
For each one of YOUR opponents, you are linked to one of THEIR opponents (that you don't already play), and that is your bypass opponent.
If you play them before the deadline and both your matches with the original opponent go unplayed, the bypass will count just like a regular match.
If your original opponent plays your bypass opponent but not you, then the original opponent will be penalized and you will be rewarded (assuming they are avoiding you and you are not avoiding them).

If a player drops out, all their bypasses are realized, and the standings table will be affected ASAP to reflect this.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Thus far I haven't been able to catch fireman joe online to play him, and haven't been able to connect to Kamoh.

[kamoh]

Thus far I haven't been able to catch fireman joe online to play him, and haven't been able to connect to Kamoh.
I think it might work next time we try (I'm not home right now). UDP was only bitching at me that one time, later that night it was okay. I'll also add Fireman joe but I'm not very hopeful about him even showing up.

[Calpis]

Is anybody going to record their matches? I'm thinking of doing it, as long as everybody's okay with it. I'm not at home right now so I can't check, but ZSNES has a record feature, doesn't it?

[linkspast]

Is anybody going to record their matches? I'm thinking of doing it, as long as everybody's okay with it. I'm not at home right now so I can't check, but ZSNES has a record feature, doesn't it?


I belive it dose but I am not sure how to use it.

The final Battles should be recorded.

EDIT:

Mewtation just beat me 3-0

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Finals should definitely be recorded.

[Arek the Absolute]

Vega and I are having connection issues. I have no idea where the other guys are. If you wanna face me, lets go....bitches.

[kamoh]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7904/ocrsnes0bq.png

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Calpis, you bitch. You have overtaken me in the standings.

Your ass is mine. MINE, YOU HEAR ME?

[Geoffrey Taucer]

[08:12] <FiremanJoe> Sorry guys, I'm having some pretty bad network/connection problems
[08:15] <FiremanJoe> I think I'm gonna have to withdraw from the comp

EDIT: just beat Kamoh 3-0

[kamoh]

I updated the standings to reflect my match with Taucer, as well as giving replacement games to FiremanJoe's players (me vs. Fire, Taucer vs. DarkCecil).

[Jimmy Jazz]

Has anyone spoke to Psychotic Ninja recently? I PM'ed him about a week ago and gotten no reply...

[kamoh]

Has anyone spoke to Psychotic Ninja recently? I PM'ed him about a week ago and gotten no reply...

We've also got an issue with LongeBane not following through on playing matches. He may yet, but Mew and I played a replacement (a.k.a. bypass) match that is shown on the standings.

If Psycho Ninja doesn't show up, then his games should be replaced by the following:

the-almighty-tallest vs. noodle
vega12 vs. project spam

[DarkCecil13]

lol conspiracy I say! Having to face Taucer ;)

[Xerol Oplan]

I beat the-almighty-tallest 3-0 today.

[Jimmy Jazz]

I beat the-almighty-tallest 3-0 today.

Yeah. I got raped.

But not as hard as Vega12.

[Bren]

Calpis and I just finished a round. He won 3-0.

Man those were some fun rounds

[kamoh]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7749/ocrsnesgq6.png

[Xerol Oplan]

Lost 3-0 in a very laggy game to vega12.

Also, Arek hasn't answered his PM or been on AIM/IRC, so I dunno how to get a game with him.

[linkspast]

We've also got an issue with LongeBane not following through on playing matches. He may yet, but Mew and I played a replacement (a.k.a. bypass) match that is shown on the standings.


Yeah I had a problem With him as well.

[Xerol Oplan]

Who would I need to play if Arek couldn't?

[kamoh]

Yeah I had a problem With him as well.
You should play vs. Noodle instead. If Noodle doesn't show up, next is ProjectSpam, then PsychoNinja, then the-almighty-tallest.

(Yes, if these people AREN'T playing then I have no qualms omitting them and giving you valid matches against other people who ARE playing).

XEROL: Bren.

[ProjectSpam]

I'm really sorry about this, but I've found that I really don't have time for this anymore. I'm too involved with school, work, and organizations around campus whilst maintaining an active social life. I love Tetris Attack, and the idea behind this contest, but I really don't have time to unwind anymore and am thus going to have to drop out of this contest.

[kamoh]

I'm really sorry about this, but I've found that I really don't have time for this anymore. I'm too involved with school, work, and organizations around campus whilst maintaining an active social life. I love Tetris Attack, and the idea behind this contest, but I really don't have time to unwind anymore and am thus going to have to drop out of this contest.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3815/ocrsnespl9.png

should have done pool play...

[linkspast]

HEY NOODLE!
You and me.
I figure maybe you don't check your PM`s so Id call you out here.
You give me the time of day and well go.

[kamoh]

EVERYONE
Last Day for First Round Matches is THIS FRIDAY
11:59 pm Eastern Standard Time, which means that you only have a few days left.

If you are having troubles playing your opponents, then contact myself (kamoh) or Mewtation - Mew has final say but i'm sure that we'll discuss several things. This is known as 'reporting' in the chess league, but will likely be done a different way here (maybe not, who knows).

I think ultimately you're going to see some people credited with unplayed losses to bolster their tiebreakers, and some people will simply be eliminated from the competition.

Your best bet is to play a bypass (see above, contact me for assignments if you're confused), and keep searching for your opponents.

[kamoh]

linkspast: in order...

noodle, psychotic ninja, the-almighty-tallest. After that, you report. I think that mew will have to decide on punishment though.

[linkspast]

Yeah I sent all them a message a few days back and No response so far...

[DarkCecil13]

I sent Bren a message weeks ago and I still haven't heard from him or seen him on Hamachi. so I need a final opponent. Thanks. :)

[Xerol Oplan]

Same thing with Bren, can't contact him at all.

[linkspast]

would it ok If Dark Cecil and I played?

[kamoh]

It wouldn't be very fair, but meh. Play if you'd like to, and I'm sure that matches outside of your schedule will be taken into consideration - especially if used as bypasses. Linkspast, are you sure you can't contact any of those people? Noodle is often on, and the-almighty-tallest has already played a match...and Xerol should probably play DarkCecil, although I'd really like to get in on some of that extra action tomorrow (linkspast too probably).

[Arek the Absolute]

arek vs vega : 0-3
You guys are crazy at this game.

[DarkCecil13]

I'll be on hamachi all night xerol and linkspast.. send me a message.

[Arek the Absolute]

Never received a PM Xerol, which is probably why we never had a match.

[kamoh]

I'll be on most of the day tomorrow - I'll play hordes of you guys then if you'd like.

[Xerol Oplan]

Never received a PM Xerol, which is probably why we never had a match.

I thought I sent you a PM with the first batch of people, back last week, and you were never on AIM and didn't answer me in IRC. Lemme check about that PM.

[kamoh]

I thought I sent you a PM with the first batch of people, back last week, and you were never on AIM and didn't answer me in IRC. Lemme check about that PM.Why don't you guys just play?

[Xerol Oplan]

I just played DC, won 3-1, I have to get offline now and probably won't be back on until Tuesday. Maybe sooner if things work out better, I dunno.

[DarkCecil13]

Just faced Xerol. I won the first point, he won the last three. Some surely epic battles

[Xerol Oplan]

^One of those was 4:33.

Anyway, the PM explanation, explained:
[01 February 20:50:28] Xerol: i'm retardedly stupid
[01 February 20:50:46] Xerol: Sent to: the-almighty-tallest, vega12, Arek The Absoute, Atmuh
[01 February 20:50:49] DarkCecil13: so we just pool like you said with all the people who actually played
[01 February 20:50:53] Xerol: notice the lack of an L there
[01 February 20:50:58] DarkCecil13: lol
[01 February 20:51:17] Xerol: vb doesn't throw an error when you try to multi-PM and just one of the names doesn't exist
[01 February 20:51:30] DarkCecil13: fucking retarded of vb

So if you wanna play tonight, message me on Hamachi. I dunno if I can play tomorrow night or not.

[Arek the Absolute]

I will later on tonight.

[kamoh]

asdsafdsas

[linkspast]

Just beat Arek 3-0

[kamoh]

here's the final table of standings. I approved several bypass matches because, hey,

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9599/ocrsnesku7.png

and here is the championship bracket and consolation bracket
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8411/ocrsnesec5.png

i hope that mew isn't too pissed that I went ahead and did this - I also nixed Bren cause he's pretty damn MIA.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Damn, how did DC end up in the consolation bracket? He's quite good.

EDIT: Ah, I see, you got matched up against the top three. Tough break.

[kamoh]

I should have flipped DarkCecil and dPaladin apart from their positions - I will soon - but I made sure that I don't play dPaladin again until the consolation final. I basically made sure that there were no rematches until the final round.

[Mewtation]

It's all good, kamoh. Looks good.

[Xerol Oplan]

When's the deadline for this? I just had to format again and it's probably going to be another few days until I get set up again.

[DarkCecil13]

Yeah, I disagree with me being in the consolation bracket considering I faced the current "Top 3" and won a point with each of them. psshhh. I could own every other person in the consolation bracket instantly 3-0, there's really no competition. something better be done about this because I don't want to face some n00bz. I really need to face vega, linkspast, and Mewtation.

[kamoh]

Yeah, I disagree with me being in the consolation bracket considering I faced the current "Top 3" and won a point with each of them. psshhh. I could own every other person in the consolation bracket instantly 3-0, there's really no competition. something better be done about this because I don't want to face some n00bz. I really need to face vega, linkspast, and Mewtation.

It's up to mew, but these are the brackets based on the guidelines set forth originally. Of course I think that we should have done a pool/bracket or pool/pool/bracket setup, and there's a good (but not great) chance that DarkCecil would have excelled. Anyways, there would have to be some sort of change, and I'm sorry about it in your case, Cecil. Random draw ends up bringing in some excitement though, and allows lesser players to reach a lot farther than they commonly would in a seeded tournament (even though we really couldn't seed this).

[DarkCecil13]

It's up to mew, but these are the brackets based on the guidelines set forth originally. Of course I think that we should have done a pool/bracket or pool/pool/bracket setup, and there's a good (but not great) chance that DarkCecil would have excelled. Anyways, there would have to be some sort of change, and I'm sorry about it in your case, Cecil. Random draw ends up bringing in some excitement though, and allows lesser players to reach a lot farther than they commonly would in a seeded tournament (even though we really couldn't seed this).

True. But many of my original opponents dropped out so I was paired with Taucer and Xerol as a result. I was also supposed to play linkspast (I just had some fun battles with him, he enver won against me :\.. just saying) instead of Xerol but Xerol faced me anyway. But, hey, whatever, i'm interested to see where this goes.

[vega12]

If you'd like DarkCecil, you could message me sometime (I use MSN regularly) and we can try to play some matches for fun. I did join this tournament to find other Tetris Attack players who could give me some interesting games afterall.

[DarkCecil13]

If you'd like DarkCecil, you could message me sometime (I use MSN regularly) and we can try to play some matches for fun. I did join this tournament to find other Tetris Attack players who could give me some interesting games afterall.

Likewise! I'm usually always on Hamachi or IRC.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Cecil, I'll play you anytime you like.

[DarkCecil13]

Cecil, I'll play you anytime you like.

I always want to play. You're going down... Fatty!

[linkspast]

Cecil, I'll play you anytime you like.

I always want to play. You're going down... Fatty!
Yeha good luck with that...

[Bahamut]

Yeah really, even I fell to the beast.

[kamoh]

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2999/ocrsnesmd5.png

[DarkCecil13]

Yeah really, even I fell to the beast.

are you saying you're better than me by saying you can't beat Taucer? lol. yeah. you still won't battle me. You're a chicken!

[kamoh]

are you saying you're better than me by saying you can't beat Taucer? lol. yeah. you still won't battle me. You're a chicken!

lol @ upcoming dayban.

[vega12]

I'm just curious, Bahamut, and maybe I missed a message of yours on this thread, but why aren't you in this tournament? You seem to be pretty good from the sound of it, so maybe we should play sometime outside of the tournament. I'd hate too end up winning the tournament (hypothetically) if one of the top players on the forum isn't even in the tournament :D

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I'm just curious, Bahamut, and maybe I missed a message of yours on this thread, but why aren't you in this tournament? You seem to be pretty good from the sound of it, so maybe we should play sometime outside of the tournament. I'd hate too end up winning the tournament (hypothetically) if one of the top players on the forum isn't even in the tournament :D

Yeah, I was hoping Bahamut would enter this... but then, we already know which of the two of us is a superior tetris attack player... AND I'M GOING TO RUB IT IN HIS FUCKING FACE FOR ALL ETERNITY (or until he beats me).

[Bahamut]

Well, I have no PC controller...and I refuse to use keyboard (I've done it before against a friend, that sucked ass).

[Calpis]

Well, I have no PC controller...and I refuse to use keyboard (I've done it before against a friend, that sucked ass).
I suck at using the keyboard as well, but I've still made it into the finals. Okay, I'm not horrible with the keyboard, just noticeably slower than usual.

[DarkCecil13]

beat kamoh 3 points to 0 points.

[kamoh]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8794/ocrsnesid6.png

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Vega just kicked my ass, 3-0

[vega12]

I wouldn't phrase it like that...

There were a handful of matches that we had to throw out due to desyncing issues, and you won half matches, and we had some tied 1-1 matches that were desynced too. So I would say your on the same level as I about. Given right conditions, I could've totally lost that round. Thanks for the good competition!

[kamoh]

wow.

10char

[DarkCecil13]

If anyone is up for some practice versus matches tonight or this weekend or whatever, I'll be on hamachi for much of the weekend. Hit me up.

[kamoh]

Can we get this thing finished and get on to the next tournament?

I think that mew and I will consult on the format and things when I get a chance to talk to him later, but I'd be willing to say that this was not a disaster per se, but should have been done differently.

[Xerol Oplan]

I'm gonna drop out if I can't find time to play in the next few days or so, but with working 60-some hours a week, I doubt I'll ever have time.

[Calpis]

So with Xerol dropping out, it looks like I'm paired up with linkspast, right?

[kamoh]

So with Xerol dropping out, it looks like I'm paired up with linkspast, right?

Play whatever games you can that might be possible to play. Linkspast would be next for you I believe, but if vega12 is on, play him to simulate the possible final.

[linkspast]

And in a strange twist of fate Linkspast makes it in the semifinals...

Bring him and Calpis to a fight to the death!

Who will be the victor, only time will tell.

[vega12]

Let me know who the winner is when you are done battling it out so I know who my opponent in the finals will be. I look forward to it!

[kamoh]

Let me know who the winner is when you are done battling it out so I know who my opponent in the finals will be. I look forward to it!
Play both of them!

If you beat them, select a new game for us cause I personally wanna get on with the playing.

[Noodle]

Sorry guys I sort of got caught up in other things and uhhh oh yeah I lost interest when Mew sandbagged me when I played him I don't need that kind of mockery. You guys are about done anyways. Sorry again.

[vega12]

I played both linkspast, and Calpis.

I beat linkspast 3-0.
I beat Calpis 3-1.

So I guess this means the tournament is over? Then I shall select Mario Kart as the next title. Thanks to everyone for a fun tournament!

[kamoh]

I played both linkspast, and Calpis.

I beat linkspast 3-0.
I beat Calpis 3-1.

So I guess this means the tournament is over? Then I shall select Mario Kart as the next title. Thanks to everyone for a fun tournament!

Lol sweet thanks for finishing and thx4playing.

Mario Kart, signups will begin soonish if Mew wishes it

[Mewtation]

Awesomeness. I'll make the new thread tonight or tomorrow. I've got an exam tonight, so it may not be then. Thanks, everyone, for participating this month!

[linkspast]

Sweet mario kart.

[dPaladin]

SNES Mario Kart on a keyboard? Osnap.

[kamoh]

I look forward to it :)
I think that we're going to go with a strict monthly tournament format, and I have some ideas for how to do it.

For now, let's open it up to discussion: what did you guys like/not like about the tournament this last time, specifically in terms of format?

I thought that each match probably should have been best 2/3 instead of 3/5, since the tightest it ever got was 3-1.

The availability of a lot of players wasn't just questionable, it was brutal. This isn't effectively prevented, but I require AIM screen names in the OCRCL for this reason.

I want to ensure that players will get a lot of games that count in, regardless of skill. This is why the format was the way it was last time.

[Mewtation]

I'll have the new thread up later today.

[linkspast]

I think one of the biggest issues was people not playing their scheduled games. So I say if you are going to enlist you better play, Especially if we use the same format.

[kamoh]

I think one of the biggest issues was people not playing their scheduled games. So I say if you are going to enlist you better play, Especially if we use the same format.
I don't think that we'll use the same format - people were given many different opponents and, therefore, many different parameters for advancement. While single- and double-elimination does this, it's on a much smaller scale so that we can accept it, and it's to a degree that we are most interested in finding a single winner, instead of trying to advance the six most prolific/active players.

[vega12]

I don't think that best 3 out of 5 is a bad idea. Matches are quick anyway, and even though the closest matches were was 3-1, doesn't mean that the two players in question were that different in skill.

Also, in something like Mario Kart, there's a lot of luck involved, so making it 3 out of 5 would help make it a little more fair to those whose luck just happens to be a little dry that time :wink:

[linkspast]

With mario kart will how will the tracks be decided? will it be random... or a circut and the winner is the winner.

[Jesus_Soldier]

Hi guys, I'm a new member and i've heard of this site from friends.
I've learned that you were playing tetris attack; ma favorite snes game!
Too bad that i joined too late, however it would be nice to play some with some of you. Please e-mail me if you are interested. For the next tournament , i'm interested, even if i'm not really good with Mario Kart.

[kamoh]

Hi guys, I'm a new member and i've heard of this site from friends.
I've learned that you were playing tetris attack; ma favorite snes game!
Too bad that i joined too late, however it would be nice to play some with some of you. Please e-mail me if you are interested. For the next tournament , i'm interested, even if i'm not really good with Mario Kart.
We've had several tournaments since then.
Check the forum for the active Super Puzzle Fighter and Super Gem Fighter tourneys.