Cave Story/Doukutsu Monogatari [Archive] - OverClocked ReMix Forums

Hellcom

01-09-2007, 11:05 PM

~CAVE STORY~
http://agtp.romhack.net/images/doukutsu/1.png

Well the game has been out for a while, but I only just got into it. As the game is amazing, and there is no thread for it... TA, DA!!

Well for those who are going "Doukutsu what?":

Cave Story is a freeware game that was released in 2004, after 5 years of development, by a Japanese guy who goes by the handle Pixel. It's a 2D Side-Shooter in the vein of metroid and castlevania. It has been hailed by many fans as the best freeware game of 2004 at least to the best freeware game ever made. The screen shot above does not do the game justice. The game features flawless gameplay, a very memorable story, perfect visuals based on chosen style and resources available, and an excellent sound track as demonstrated by some of the remixes on OCR.

It took me a while, but I just managed to beat Hell. My problem was that I could never reach the final bonus boss with enough health to survive. I mastered the Hell level in the end, and just scraped through with 10 HP left after the final fight. I have no idea how some guys can do speed runs with 3 HP.

There is news (old) that a very new publisher called variant is working to port cave story to the PSP with updated visuals.

http://www.variantinteractive.com/en-us/games/variant/cs/index.php
(Artwork Cover is Fan Made)

However, many fans, inculding myself feel a bit iffy about this publisher. Firstly there is confusion as to whether pixel is being paid, whether pixel authorized it, and if this company is capable of porting the game. Nintendo even denied Variant a development kit for the DS.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124986

In other news, there is a home-brew effort, with blessings from pixel, to port the game to the Nintendo DS.

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/10/20/homebrew-cave-story-now-headed-to-ds/
http://community.livejournal.com/doukutsu/27249.html (Started off as GBA port)
http://community.livejournal.com/doukutsu/61296.html

Download this game now!:
http://agtp.romhack.net/doukutsu.html (Latest game version and translation patch)
http://www.miraigamer.net/cavestory/ (Fan site and link to MAC version)

kamoh

01-09-2007, 11:19 PM

OCRemix is full of Cave Story lovers, including myself. There's even been a remix project for the game's music.

Might as well keep this thread though, as there are a lot of noobs that haven't yet discovered this.

DrumUltimA

01-09-2007, 11:48 PM

I LOOOOVE cave story

enough to remix from it :D

ILLiterate

01-10-2007, 12:10 AM

Cave Story ReMix Project (http://kwix.shackspace.com/cavestory/index.html)

TaVeRnErO_RuDd

01-10-2007, 12:36 AM

cave story rocks, a lot

i've been working on a remix of the balcony theme

Gollgagh

01-10-2007, 03:13 AM

I got to hell a couple months ago, but I'm kinda stuck.

Amayirot Akago

01-10-2007, 07:55 AM

Best freeware game EVAR.

Still need to get to the ending where you fight Ballos tho...

TheLeviathan

01-10-2007, 08:49 AM

Best freeware game EVAR.

Still need to get to the ending where you fight Ballos tho...

I finally beat hell on my second playthrough a couple months ago. It took me a while to get the hang of it, but after a while, I could pretty easily get to Ballos. Finally beating him took a while as well.

Pixel is my hero and I hope he makes another game of the same calibur as Cave Story. Oh, and the remix project is great as others have said.

Hellcom

01-10-2007, 02:54 PM

Cave Story ReMix Project (http://kwix.shackspace.com/cavestory/index.html)

Broken link? Site down?

Jimmy Jazz

01-10-2007, 05:18 PM

I finally beat hell on my second playthrough a couple months ago. It took me a while to get the hang of it, but after a while, I could pretty easily get to Ballos. Finally beating him took a while as well.

Wow, you beat Ballos? I can't even beat Final Battle! (Misery/The Doctor/OMG SPOILERS!). Then again, I did stupidly use that life pot Jenka gave me earlier in the game....

Toadofsky

01-10-2007, 05:19 PM

The remix project is what made me download the game. I absolutely love it. It's among my ten favortie games of all time.

Jimmy Jazz

01-10-2007, 05:20 PM

Broken link? Site down?

Site down just now. I hope it comes back up again soon, as I recently lost disc 2 and need to re-download it.

Hellcom

01-10-2007, 05:39 PM

Wow, you beat Ballos? I can't even beat Final Battle! (Misery/The Doctor/OMG SPOILERS!). Then again, I did stupidly use that life pot Jenka gave me earlier in the game....

You don't use that life pot for anything other than Hell and Ballos! That was my first mistake. I used the pot in the "final cave", which wreaked my chances of completing Hell. I had to re-start the game in order to get it, but then again, that is no punishment.

Jimmy Jazz

01-10-2007, 06:25 PM

You don't use that life pot for anything other than Hell and Ballos! That was my first mistake. I used the pot in the "final cave", which wreaked my chances of completing Hell. I had to re-start the game in order to get it, but then again, that is no punishment.

...

I suck.

Kenogu Labz

03-22-2010, 10:32 PM

Soooo this is a massive necropost, but with good reason.

Indie developer Nicalis has been working on a port for WiiWare, which includes a graphics and music upgrade (both optional), several new game modes (including Curly Story, where you play as Curly Brace), and various other additions. The development was assisted and monitored by Daisuke Amaya himself, so his official mark of approval is set on the game. It's going for 1200 Wii points ($12) right now, so check it out! I certainly plan on doing so.

WiiWare game page (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/Qiu4tbl4BR1Nhxc_e05Iql75IfmOfO_y)

Gollgagh

03-22-2010, 10:58 PM

bet you $20 someone "reverse engineers" curly story using the cave story editor within a week of release

sephfire

03-23-2010, 12:16 AM

Been waiting for this to hit the Wii Store for nearly a year now. Already purchased and loving it.

Tables

03-23-2010, 01:51 AM

Already got to Sacred Grounds before calling it a night.

Okay, who else besides me hates nearly all the new music? Should have gotten OCR to do it :v

Also, 'Huzzah' into 'Oh yeeaaaah'? Who thought of that one?

Other then that I can't complain, the new graphics are nice and smooth (even if they don't seem too radically different except for things like Balrogs... nose thing and the entirety of Quote), and most importantly it's still fun! This is my fourth time playing it, and I don't regret dropping 1200 points on it.

p.s I've never ever beaten Ballos so that is my goal for tomorrow

Bleck

03-23-2010, 02:44 AM

Okay, who else besides me hates nearly all the new music?

Also, 'Huzzah' into 'Oh yeeaaaah'? Who thought of that one?

Agree and agree. The new music is not bad by any means, just bad in comparison to the original, and the new translation is actually worse (which is kind of fucking sad since the original was a fan project and this one was presumably some sort of professional job).

Gollgagh

03-23-2010, 03:07 AM

an amateur loves his work THIS IS A LANGUAGE JOKE DO YOU GET IT MAYBE

Sinewav

03-23-2010, 03:20 AM

Why is it that all this awesome stuff comes out when I have no money?

friendlyHunter

03-23-2010, 03:38 AM

There was something wrong with the original traslation?? :dstrbd:

Also a little disappointing that the new music isn't as good... I heard a few clips of the new music a year or two ago and they were pretty bad =/

Might be buying this for Curly Story....

Also, 'Huzzah' into 'Oh yeeaaaah'? Who thought of that one?
Clearly someone who's a fan of the Kool-aid guy.

Upthorn

03-23-2010, 05:06 AM

There was something wrong with the original traslation?? :dstrbd:

Also a little disappointing that the new music isn't as good... I heard a few clips of the new music a year or two ago and they were pretty bad =/

Might be buying this for Curly Story....

Clearly someone who's a fan of the Kool-aid guy.

The only real failure of the original translation is when the password "ritanomo tsukuudo" (doukutsu monogatari backwards, in Japanese script) got translated as "Litagano Motscoud" instead of Yrots Evac

Emperor Charlemagne

03-23-2010, 05:20 AM

I think I am going to get this, because a Metroidvania game on the keyboard is pretty frustrating for me; I'd rather play with a controller on a comfy seat.

I DO have 600 Wii points that are just sitting on my account, so after a quick recharge, I'll go for this and then later Rondo of Blood.

I hear all the extra modes were originally supposed to be DLC, but they changed it to just regular unlockables. Which is cool.

Even with qualms with the 'new' translation and music (I mean, the music can't be bad, right?), would you still recommend me to the Wii version? I'm always up for a good long and fun game.

Red Shadow

03-23-2010, 05:28 AM

Tables

03-23-2010, 09:57 AM

I wouldn't get your hopes up from Curly Story, from what I see and hear it's
Finally, there is a mode that allows you to play through the main story as Curly Brace, which would be super cool if they had made the dialogue slightly more interesting. Curly is not a silent protagonist, and will say things like "I sure did!" when Balrog asks you if you knew Misery kidnapped the wrong mimiga. Other characters will also refer to you as "young lady". When you get to the Sand Zone, the protagonist will take Curly's place in the story and challenge you to a battle, though he will remain silent, and Curly will do all the talking. This makes the following conversation extremely awkward, and when Curly asks the protagonist if he's on the side of the mimigas, you are given a Yes/No prompt, which makes no sense whatsoever. Most importantly, yes, you can still find Curly's underwear, which is referred to as "your panties".

(http://nintendo5star.blogspot.com/2010/03/cave-story-wii-differences.html)

Arek the Absolute

03-23-2010, 10:25 AM

I really wanted to like the port, but the little things keep making me dislike it. The sound effects drowning out the already messed up volume setting for the original music, the horrible looping of the whole song a track finishes instead of using the original loop points, the music pausing whenever you enter a door, and no hard mode with curly brace just makes me :(

sephfire

03-23-2010, 11:35 AM

You can turn sound effects down in the options menu. That helps a bit.

DrumUltimA

03-23-2010, 12:47 PM

I don't have any major problems with the new translation. The fan one is more familiar to me, but there are some things that I like in this one (like the oh yeeaah! Made me chuckle a bit). Not a fan of the new music in general, it lacks a lot of the energy that the old music had (which was really important to me), but I think the new graphics look great.

Poke'G

03-23-2010, 03:02 PM

The new graphics are the best improvement, as they are better detailed while completely keeping the retro feel of the old game.

It's unfortunate that the new music isn't as good as the original and that the original music option's volume is ridiculously low comparatively, but the new music isn't terrible and not worth crying over, let alone condemning the game.

As for the translation... who the Hell pays attention to this stuff? The only part that jumped out to me as blatantly different was Balrog's "OH YEAH!", which I think is more in line with his character than the fan translation anyways. I cracked up when he burst through the wall shouting that.

If you liked Cave Story enough to have spent money on it, pick this one up. Pixel's even on board, so it's not going to get much better than this.

Monobrow

03-23-2010, 03:50 PM

new music in the sand zone and moon song are pretty good

everything else is terrible and i cant wait to finish hell so i can swap the music back to the originals without feeling like i havent experienced it all

Yeah, the music is pretty awful... I really don't understand... It is very disjointed and... just really odd choices. For example, Egg Corridor... I can't really tell where the song starts or ends, except that I already know it, and theres like a ten second dropoff of music then BLAIRINGLY OVERLOUD chords... Just ugh. All of the original feel is lost... And honestly, a lot of it just feels like a mess.

There also seems to be a lack of percussion, something that really made the original music great. The cool beats are gone.

What's worse, the guy that did the music? He's posted. (http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01853/)

And what's even worse, and what I don't understand... Pixel likes the new music and hates the old. :( (http://www.destructoid.com/cave-story-creator-talks-inspirations-sequel-and-more-168541.phtml)

jmr

03-23-2010, 07:49 PM

Yeah, the music is pretty awful... I really don't understand... It is very disjointed and... just really odd choices. For example, Egg Corridor... I can't really tell where the song starts or ends, except that I already know it, and theres like a ten second dropoff of music then BLAIRINGLY OVERLOUD chords... Just ugh. All of the original feel is lost... And honestly, a lot of it just feels like a mess.

There also seems to be a lack of percussion, something that really made the original music great. The cool beats are gone.I've only heard a few small samples of the new music. I don't think it's 'awful' by any stretch, but I think I prefer the originals.

What's worse, the guy that did the music? He's posted. (http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01853/)Really, that's the guy who did the new soundtrack? Didn't realize there was an OCR connection...

Red Shadow

03-23-2010, 08:39 PM

And what's even worse, and what I don't understand... Pixel likes the new music and hates the old. :( (http://www.destructoid.com/cave-story-creator-talks-inspirations-sequel-and-more-168541.phtml)

i have a feeling that this is a case of an artist not feeling that their own works are any good

add to that the apparent humility of the guy and his preference for the new music would be akin to appreciation of a tribute

Upthorn

03-23-2010, 10:18 PM

And what's even worse, and what I don't understand... Pixel likes the new music and hates the old. :( (http://www.destructoid.com/cave-story-creator-talks-inspirations-sequel-and-more-168541.phtml)

Pixel is incredibly humble, and he played through the game like 50000 times over the course of creating it, so all his original music sounds flawed and boring and horrible to him.

And there's these guys who for some reason love it and want to bring the game to more people, so I imagine that anything they wanted to do with it felt flattering and awesome to him. So it's no wonder that he likes the changed versions better. As the creator, all he can hear in his originals are the flaws that detracted from the perfect realization of what he wanted the songs to be, and all he can hear in the new versions is that people loved his creation anyway.

Which I think is also an explanation behind some of the wtf translation decisions the new team made, like changing Grasstown to Bushlands, etc.

jmr

03-24-2010, 03:18 AM

This might be a worth-while read for those who dislike the new music. (http://tinycartridge.com/post/469336063/cave-story-wiiwares-jacked-up-music)
Yann van der Cruyssen (Knytt Stories), who composed the remixed soundtrack, acknowledged and explained the problems: “As you’ve all noticed, there’s a lot of weird things going on with the audio, for instance: drum tracks not playing (there is actually drums in the music files we provided), instrument changes delayed, unbalanced mixing. I discovered this yesterday by watching “Let’s Play” videos, and [I] am as disappointed as you."

Tables

03-24-2010, 04:42 AM

If they can update Kirby 64 for... some reason, they can update and fix this game too

Right?

If that above quote is true.. well, I'd love to hear what I've been missing with the drums and all that.

friendlyHunter

03-24-2010, 04:46 AM

If they can update Kirby 64
What's all this then?

DrumUltimA

03-24-2010, 05:17 AM

This might be a worth-while read for those who dislike the new music. (http://tinycartridge.com/post/469336063/cave-story-wiiwares-jacked-up-music)

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man, that's a drag.

Bleck

03-24-2010, 05:42 AM

A YEAR'S WORTH OF BUG FIXING

A FUCKING YEAR god damn it

Arek the Absolute

03-24-2010, 05:47 AM

Odds of us in NA getting the bug fixed version?

Zero!

Upthorn

03-24-2010, 07:08 AM

Odds of us in NA getting the bug fixed version?

Zero!
Yeah, basically. Nintendo has pretty much no mechanism for any update ever happening for any Wii releases.
If they were to go ahead and start talking to MS people about getting it on XBLA or Xbox community games, it might be worth holding out for that release to be bugfixed.

Arek the Absolute

03-24-2010, 08:13 AM

Yeah, basically. Nintendo has pretty much no mechanism for any update ever happening for any Wii releases.
If they were to go ahead and start talking to MS people about getting it on XBLA or Xbox community games, it might be worth holding out for that release to be bugfixed.

that would be pretty awesome if it was a live/psn game

I seriously hope La-Mulana gets better treatment than this game. Nicalis really dropped the ball on what could have been a great game. I can understand if these bugs were on the game when the game was meant to be released a few years ago, but with all these delays, it is just inexcusable.

gg nicalis

Poke'G

03-24-2010, 12:43 PM

Yeah, basically. Nintendo has pretty much no mechanism for any update ever happening for any Wii releases.
If they were to go ahead and start talking to MS people about getting it on XBLA or Xbox community games, it might be worth holding out for that release to be bugfixed.

What? No, Nintendo can and has patched games from the Wii Shop Channel. I know for a fact that both Star Fox 64 and Military Madness were patched; not sure of any others. All you need to do is re-download the newer version, which is free to do at any point after the original purchase.

It's also how they update the internet browser. A Wii Ware title is no different.

cobaltstarfire

03-24-2010, 12:57 PM

This might be a worth-while read for those who dislike the new music. (http://tinycartridge.com/post/469336063/cave-story-wiiwares-jacked-up-music)

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Well that's 12 dollars I'm not spending :\ had been looking forward to playing the game with a real control but I don't really want to pay for a botched game even though it's something small like that.

Normally I wouldn't care that much and still buy it, but for a game I've already beaten 100% with a keyboard I can't justify it. If it does get fixed I might get it then. Nicalis seemed to imply alot of the problems manifested on Nintendos end, but I don't know if that's just them hunting for excuses or not...

Monobrow

03-24-2010, 01:37 PM

Yeah wow... See I knew I wasn't crazy. I'm not really a harsh person but the new music was so distracting and disjointed... Just ugh. Why do great things always fall into the wrong hands?

atmuh

03-24-2010, 02:01 PM

this is what you guys get for anticipating playing a game you already played to death for a year

Emperor Charlemagne

03-24-2010, 04:38 PM

Though I do have a feeling that such a bug can and will be fixed, though sitting on their asses for a year as Bleck noted is a bit damned silly.

And then there is the original soundtrack at the least.

zircon

03-24-2010, 04:52 PM

I highly doubt the developer was just screwing around, regarding the delays. Nintendo has an arcane, impenetrable approval process that is much worse than that of Sony or Microsoft. I've heard almost nothing but horror stories about it.

DrumUltimA

03-25-2010, 05:11 AM

A YEAR'S WORTH OF BUG FIXING

A FUCKING YEAR god damn it

in combination with your sig it was really funny

Poke'G

03-25-2010, 08:48 AM

That sig goes so well with just about anything Bleck posts. I fear the day he changes it; the loss of win will be great.

Emperor Charlemagne

03-30-2010, 10:09 PM

So I got this, and I'm lovin' it a whole lot.

Beat it and got the normal ending, so now I'm working for the Good Ending.

I usually like to switch between the original and new music, as I like them both (though the original main theme is a whole lot better).

So, I'm wondering, you Cave Story savvy people, do I need to give that old man the very Polar Star I got in the beginning of the game to get the Spur?
Or can I give him the Snake and still get it?

My first time through, I took the machine gun, because impropmtu jet-pack = game-saver, but I've heard that getting the good ending is much more doable with the Spur's power (though I have the Snake on one save right now, considering how awesome it is).

Your thoughts?

Bleck

03-30-2010, 10:11 PM

yeah you have to give the old guy the Polar Star to get the Spur - makes the earlier game a bit tougher but the later game a lot easier

cobaltstarfire

03-30-2010, 10:52 PM

I don't think it's possible to get the "good" ending if you trade for the machine gun.

Of course I may be remembering wrong...

I actually am not sure of all the conditions for the good ending, since some of them are just from me purposely challenging myself and others are just me being a completionist and trying to collect everything.

But a few of them are hinted at towards the end.

DrumUltimA

03-31-2010, 12:13 AM

Kenogu Labz

03-31-2010, 12:36 AM

Weapons don't factor into the best ending at all. It's all a matter of what helps YOU take out the last three (and I'm not talking the Doctor. ;D )

cobaltstarfire

03-31-2010, 01:01 AM

He should just look up a cheat guide if he wants the super good ending, than he would know exactly how, and the rest of us wouldn't have to feel antsy about spoilers.

And I wouldn't have to wonder what exactly I did to get there...@_@

Emperor Charlemagne

03-31-2010, 05:17 PM

I've only ever really looked at cheat guides for RPGs and Strategy RPGs, like Dragon Quest games, or the DS Knights in the Knightmare.

Platformers I can usually do things well on my own, considering I've been playing them regularly since about 4 years of age.

The Spur/Polar Star question was just something I needed clarification on. As far as the actual endings go, I kinda intuited the whole "If you talk to Booster early" thing when I found I could just jump across the chasm, AND how the teleporter led back to Arthur's house (plus the whole balcony thing); the rest comes from simple exploration.

In either event, I reloaded my save, giving up the Snake in order to go through a very painful trek through the labryinth, Core boss, waterway (no jetpack/machine gun around here.... Ugh) and THEN getting the Spur.

WELLLLL worth it. Holy moly the gun is pretty great. Easily better than the Machine Gun, but I REALLY miss the impromtu jet-pack a L3 Machine Gun was.
In any event, I'm on the right path towards getting the good ending, doing everything right, essentially.
Now all I need is the Nemesis and I am set to take on any sorry mofo that comes my way.

BardicKnowledge

03-31-2010, 08:48 PM

cobaltstarfire

03-31-2010, 09:45 PM

Eh, if he can get through the evil cave and acquire the nemesis the first few jumps in hell won't be that bad, well the evil cave seemed alot harder to get through than the first section of hell to me anyway.

I might be the only person to say this but... I hate the nemesis. Maybe it's a huge fail on my part that I can't just can't avoid the energy triangles well enough to keep it effective.

SirChadlyOC

04-01-2010, 12:46 AM

So, I found out about Cave Story when I heard it was in development for Wii, like 2.5 years ago. I chose not to download the PC version, saving myself for the Wii version. Now that it's out, though, I'm worried that the Wii version could actually be inferior.

I feel like I wasted 2.5 years of my life, man.

Rozovian

04-01-2010, 12:51 AM

I might be the only person to say this but... I hate the nemesis. Maybe it's a huge fail on my part that I can't just can't avoid the energy triangles well enough to keep it effective.

You're the only person to _say_ it. You're not the only person to hate it, and not the only person who have trouble avoiding triangles. ;)

lol, MUST AVOID THE SPOILS. :D

Emperor Charlemagne

04-01-2010, 01:10 AM

I like the Nemesis so far. I'm pretty good at avoiding triangles, and even if I'm not, one hit is usually enough to put me back on the offensive again.

You really might miss the machine gun for the first few jumps of Hell fyi. Hope you're really good with the booster 2!

Uggggggghhhhhhh.

5 seconds DEATH 8 seconds DEATH 10 seconds DEATH fall down shaft DEATH

Very annoying.
VERY annoying.

And of course, everything after that...

Tell me, is the whole thing just one big no-save gauntlet?

So, I found out about Cave Story when I heard it was in development for Wii, like 2.5 years ago. I chose not to download the PC version, saving myself for the Wii version. Now that it's out, though, I'm worried that the Wii version could actually be inferior.

I feel like I wasted 2.5 years of my life, man.

If you got and/or want to spend the cash, I'd say just go for it.
I'll also say that I have the exact same misgivings you had, but I decided to just go with it and go for the Wii version.

I'm loving the Wii version, the option to switch between the musics is pretty damn great (though I only really felt it necessary to switch to the old in the are called Plantation. When you get there, you'll feel the same way), and it is an all-around great game that I have already sunk more than ten hours into (comparing the say, 13 hours I put on my first playthrough of Metroid Prime 3 Corruption... amazingly, I'll have to say right now that Cave Story is better made than Corruption; coming from the biggest die-hard Metroid fan, that is saying something.).

Get it, or if you wanna be cheap, get it on PC.

However, this type of game (for me anyway) was a lot more comfortable with a remote (and no, no joypad; those things are gay).

cobaltstarfire

04-01-2010, 02:44 AM

Hell is one long no save gauntlet.

Have fun with it :D

Gollgagh

04-01-2010, 03:22 AM

BUT you get to feel like a godam badass when you do beat it

Arek the Absolute

04-01-2010, 03:28 AM

My best time so far is 5:43 with the Snake.

cobaltstarfire

04-01-2010, 04:11 AM

LuketheXjesse

04-01-2010, 04:17 AM

I don't do speedruns just because they aren't fun and they are time consuming to perfect.

Kenogu Labz

04-01-2010, 04:23 AM

Yeaaah, I'm satisfied with saying I beat Hell once. After two years of trying on and off to beat it. That was a good day. :D

LuketheXjesse

04-01-2010, 04:33 AM

I like replaying hell occasionally, it's good fun.

EDIT: Wait, two years!?! It's not THAT hard...

Kenogu Labz

04-01-2010, 04:39 AM

I didn't have the reflexes back then. I don't have all that great reflexes now, really.

Emperor Charlemagne

04-01-2010, 05:33 AM

I don't do speedruns just because they aren't fun and they are time consuming to perfect.

Unless the game is [a] Metroid; then above point is false

And fuck Hell.
Jeeziz, gotta love the whole "lol be totally dependent on random health drops" and how Heavy Press eats away all the health you saved up, and Ballos...

This is going to be a long weekend, I can feel it.

BardicKnowledge

04-01-2010, 05:45 AM

Unless the game is [a] Metroid; then above point is false

And fuck Hell.
Jeeziz, gotta love the whole "lol be totally dependent on random health drops" and how Heavy Press eats away all the health you saved up, and Ballos...

This is going to be a long weekend, I can feel it.

You shouldn't be taking any damage from Heavy Press -- dodge one laser, fire up with your dual Nemesis guns and win.

Emperor Charlemagne

04-01-2010, 05:53 AM

Hmmmmmm....

And here I was using missiles...

Arek the Absolute

04-01-2010, 09:14 AM

Oh cool you got around to visiting hell :D

I've never done a speedrun before, because I suck and it takes me forever to kill stuff...and things, takes a good 10-15 minutes? I wonder if getting it on the wii would make it easier, I have trouble coordinating my fingers between jump/boost and letting go of a charged shot on the keyboard.

yea i got to it a while back on the pc, which is what my fastest time is from.

i am finding it actually harder to play this on the wiimote than on the pc. my sanctuary runs on the wii keeps being around 7 minutes.

randomly, my psp sanctuary run is around the same as my pc run.

LuketheXjesse

04-01-2010, 12:04 PM

And here I was using missiles...

You wanna save those for Ballos' final form. RAPE.

Cyril the Wolf

04-01-2010, 12:09 PM

Yea, save the Missles for the final form.

I also used swords, fuck the Nemesis guns. Just use the Spur for everything else.

cobaltstarfire

04-01-2010, 04:10 PM

yea i got to it a while back on the pc, which is what my fastest time is from.

i am finding it actually harder to play this on the wiimote than on the pc. my sanctuary runs on the wii keeps being around 7 minutes.

randomly, my psp sanctuary run is around the same as my pc run.

Hmm, it might be because the button layout, Diagonal buttons are a bit easier on the hand than horizontal ones don't you think?

Unless the game is [a] Metroid; then above point is false

And fuck Hell.
Jeeziz, gotta love the whole "lol be totally dependent on random health drops" and how Heavy Press eats away all the health you saved up, and Ballos...

This is going to be a long weekend, I can feel it.

Here's a tip, stop taking damage and you won't have to rely on health drops. :P

I actually played through the whole game without taking the rocket launcher so I have no advice for making it easier on the weapon front. Although yeah, I also relied on the Sword and Spur as well, with a bit of fireball.

BardicKnowledge

04-01-2010, 10:12 PM

Yea, save the Missles for the final form.

I also used swords, fuck the Nemesis guns. Just use the Spur for everything else.

Nemesis isn't all that great anywhere except Hell, where I find it easier to keep track of dual nemesis guns rather than Spur + nemesis and whatnot.

That being said, I do use the spur on section 2 of hell to throw beams straight up in the hopes that angels will crash and burn into them behind me. Nemesis all the way for Section 3 though, as it's easier to cover behind you if you have a good weapon that maintains a high rate of fire (nemesis). I suppose Nemesis and Snake would work and be kind of overkill, though I hear that's the weapon combo that gets through it the fastest.

Ajax

04-02-2010, 05:35 AM

Just finished a run through cave story, where I took the time to beat the game with the Mimiga mask on, and it's not until they take the booster away that you realize how dependent on it you've become :-(

Also, I've gotten my fastest time yet on Hell at something like 8:40, and I'm kind of surprised, because even though I thought I was going through pretty slow, I usually take about 10 or 15 minutes to make my way through. Additionally, I only used the spur, and the missile launcher, seeing as how I don't like taking the time to level up any of my other weapons, and I don't like trying to avoid weapon energy with the nemesis.

Also, as a neat tip for getting through Hell, on the screen right after the screen with all the blocks falling from the ceiling, you can grab the two hearts in the bottom right hand corner, go back up one screen, re-get those hearts, and rinse-repeat until your full. I find that particularly helpful, seeing as how the falling block screen is the place where I take the most damage, and certainly makes things a lot easier.

Emperor Charlemagne

09-26-2010, 07:06 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/26/nicalis-details-cave-story-s-jump-to-dsiware-wiiware-update-com/

What is this? A WiiWare game actually getting support after the game is released????

How absurd!!!!

I really, really, REALLY hope they fix all the damn bugs and glitches in the game, and for the love of God, FIX THE MUSIC.

oh yeah and really old bump. That pic in the article looks really cool, though that's just fanart.

DrumUltimA

09-26-2010, 07:48 PM

Yay! Glad to hear about the bug fixes. I was pretty disappointed in that update.

Also--on my droidx, i just found the live wallpaper of the ending where you fly away on the dragon--I'm so happy!

also:

Oh yeaaah!! The other thing we learned is that audio is almost more important to Cave Story fans than artwork. For those ready to bitch about the audio, it’s perfect this time around, the first time around.:)

Emperor Charlemagne

10-20-2010, 06:52 PM

So the remixed n' fixed audio sounds pretty much completely different.

Like they just said "You know what, these remixes suck. Let's do them over."

It's so nice to actually here drum tracks on these pieces- the boss songs sound great for a change! Oh an actual loops that work, too.

Everything sounds pretty tight in their re-remixed forms, except for Plantation/Cave Story. It just doesn't feel like it should be a slow-paced song.

Even the menus are no longer shitty and more to the point.

That being said....
Nicalis fucked up again. Because the remixed tracks are incredibly fucking quiet. You have to put your tv up to very loud volumes to actually enjoy the tracks.

And yeah good luck seeing ANOTHER update to fix that.