Fruity Loops Music Competition 5: Mega Man 3 [Results]

[Bundeslang]

Frutty Loops Music Competition 5: Finally. VOTING STAGE.
Voting Stage has begon.

I used almost the same rules as previous FLMC's, but there are a little changes.

Here's a little information about the contest:
You can only use the stuff that comes with fruityloops, it's not obligated to give a FLP file, but if you submit a FLP file you get 3 bonus points in the voting stage (A nr. 1 vote).

You may NOT use sytrus, wasp, soundfont player or anything else that must be purchased seperately. No extra plugins or samples.

You may use the provided samples in the earlier contests, here are the samples provided by Prophecy in the earlier contest:

http://bambombim.googlepages.com/FLMC4Pack.zip

The source tune is:
Mega Man 3 (All tunes).
http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/nes/index-gr.html
Go down and find Mega Man 3
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/MegaMan3Midi.zip
or http://bambombim.googlepages.com/MegaMan3.zip (Some Files could be the same). The first zip contains all VGmusic MIDI's, the other one is a MIDI pack I have on my computer.
And the NSF File:
http://djpretzel.web.aplus.net/songs/original/Mega%20Man%203%20(1990)(Bunbun%20-%20Capcom)(17%20Songs)%5BWith%20SFX%5D.nsf


Welcome to the Voting Stage of FLMC5.

We have 5 remixes this round, Bundeslang, DDRKirby(ISQ), El Pollo Diablo (and Gollgagh), RocketSniper and S|r Nuts.

Listen to the songs and P.M. http://www.ocremix.org/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=8264
me your top 5. Contestants receive an additional first place if they vote, they don't have to place their own mix. You have to listen to the songs before voting. Voters remain anonymous. Voting ends monday 26 february.

Vote this way:

1st - (remixer)

2nd - (remixer)

3rd - (remixer)

4th - (remixer)

5th - (remixer)

The songs and ZIPped FLP files:
MP3 Songs: I recorded some FLP files in my FLP, hope it works.

Bundeslang: Dreaming About The Gemini Master
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-DreamingAboutTheGeminiMas.mp3

DDRKirbyISQ: Top Man Spun Wild
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_Mega_Man_3_Top_Man_Spun_.mp3

Gollgagh + El Pollo Diablo: Noobmusic
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/GollgaghElPolloDiablo-Noobmusic.mp3

RocketSniper: Oonts Oonts Snakeman Oonts
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/RocketSniper-OntoOntoSnakemanOnto.mp3

Sir Nuts: Snakes on a Loop
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/SirNuts-SnakesonaLoop.mp3


FLP in ZIP Files:
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-DreamingAboutTheGeminiMas.zip
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_Mega_Man_3_Top_Man_Spun_.zip
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/GollgaghElPolloDiablo-NoobmusicOLDVE.zip (This is the 'old' version, waiting for correct version).
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/RocketSniper-OntoOntoSnakemanOnto.zip
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/SirNuts-Snakes_on_a_Loop.zip


We also have one BONUS TRACK.
Blue Magic - Synthetic Luv
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/BlueMagic-MegaMan_3_Synthetic_Luv_2.mp3
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/MegaMan_3_Synthetic_Luv.flp

Good listen and happy voting.

[Gollgagh]

I think that people don't feel very obligated to work very hard if you give them a wide open theme, like in a previous FLMC that had "Sadness" as the theme. We might want to stick to a single source or theme like the previous contests.

Since you've already suggested Megaman and Godzilla why don't we choose one of those soundtracks to work with?

[Bundeslang]

The last contests had 30 MIDI's, and first I didn't want a source tune as well, but you are right. I leave Godzilla behind and say the source tune for this match is Mega Man 3. I don't want a difficult source tune because then it might be hard to mix a song.

Source Tune: Mega Man 3.

Good luck.

[RocketSniper]

I might participate in this one if people can get those .zips up. Anyone have 'em?

[Bundeslang]

I might participate in this one if people can get those .zips up. Anyone have 'em?
I found them. I will upload them to my site.

http://bambombim.googlepages.com/FLMC4Pack.zip

[Gollgagh]

Don't forget that we have the .nsf as well:

http://djpretzel.web.aplus.net/songs/original/Mega%20Man%203%20(1990)(Bunbun%20-%20Capcom)(17%20Songs)%5BWith%20SFX%5D.nsf

[Alex Smith]

Sorry if these are obvious questions, but this is the first time I've come across this competition.

Firstly, can we use samples (wavs) provided in the "packs" folder of FL Studio (and anything else in this folder)?

Also, do we choose one source from the game to remix? Or do we have to incorporate every source tune in the game into our mix?

Again, sorry if I'm asking obvious questions.

[Gollgagh]

Choose any number of tunes from MM3 as you wish, be it one or all of them.


Although, trying to do all of them would be ridiculous, in my opinion.



As for what you can use, you can use anything that comes default with fruity loops except for what Bundeslang listed.

[Bundeslang]

Choose any number of tunes from MM3 as you wish, be it one or all of them.


Although, trying to do all of them would be ridiculous, in my opinion.



As for what you can use, you can use anything that comes default with fruity loops except for what Bundeslang listed.
You are right. Just one of the tunes is allright, but you may do two, three or more.

You may submit more than one entry as well.

[Alex Smith]

Sorry guys, but I'm strongly thinking about pulling out. I've just read through the FLMC4 thread. I just don't know if it's worth spending time on a mix if the competition is only going to get 3 votes or so. Not to mention that the last competition seemed to be poorly organised and generally badly managed. Granted, a different person is in charge of this competition, but I just can't seem to shake off the feeling that this competition is more hassle than it's worth.

[RocketSniper]

Well this is pretty crappy. None of the players I've installed will play it - apparently the .nsf isn't in .nsf format.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

yeah FLMC isn't a really established compo, and to top it off, its been on shaky ground recently, so if you're not doing it just for the fun and challenge of making something good using FL defaults, you might not want to bother.

[Gollgagh]

Well this is pretty crappy. None of the players I've installed will play it - apparently the .nsf isn't in .nsf format.


It's working perfectly for me, and all I have installed is chipamp.

[RocketSniper]

I got a different .nsf (with .frm file), and it works great off of Zophar.net. I'm working on something but as of now it's HolyshitomfgwhatwasIthinkingthissucks, With luck, it'll get to omgIcan'tgetsomeofthesesynthsright so I can submit it.

[Bundeslang]

I have set up a small site about the contest. http://bambombim.googlepages.com/flmc
You can find the information given in the first post there. The songs will be hosted at this site as well.


Great to see a competition forum, I was always hoping for it. Hope everyone find this new forum. Fun to see this coming up during my first contest.

I will PM TO about information because I'm the runner of this competition at the moment.

Thanks DJP.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

here goes...

Top Man FTW!

[Bundeslang]

here goes...

Top Man FTW!
Great, I can't wait to check it out.

In the meanwhile I have done a small song by myself. It is a remix from Gemini Man and there's a little from the Weapon Receive tune in it as well. It's here:
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/flmc

I'm not hoping to take first place with this.

[The UnMod OutKast]

Say Bundeslang, can we get a list of all the people that are going to participate?

[Gollgagh]

He doesn't know.


I'm gonna try something for crying out loud.

[Bundeslang]

He doesn't know.


I'm gonna try something for crying out loud.

I don't know and I can't know. Some users could have started something without posting it and also some users say they will participate and then something happends and they don't have any time left. I will see who are participating.

The more, the better. There's still enough time to mix a song.

[Sir_NutS]

oh what the hell, I'm doing an entry. Let's see if my FL skills aren't too rusty.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

oh what the hell, I'm doing an entry. Let's see if my FL skills aren't too rusty.

snap! looking forward to seeing this...

[Bundeslang]

snap! looking forward to seeing this...

oh what the hell, I'm doing an entry. Let's see if my FL skills aren't too rusty.
This could be fun, take at least an hour and my song can't win anymore.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

My song's pretty much in some of the finalizing stages now--so it's pretty much done (though I might allow for some minor modification if people give me feedback i agree with).

[RocketSniper]

Bump.

I've gotten so used to some of my synths that it's hard to go back to 3xOSC... and my ears are hurting for it. So, yeah. I've got about 1:00 of acceptable sounding song.

Question though, can we use stuff we've recorded ourselves, such as beatboxing or singing?

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

i'm guessing the answer would be no...not sure about this, but if someone could record great-sounding samples and use those instead, that kind of defeats the purpose of mixing using FL-crap defaults a little (though i understand what you're suggesting is a little different--same means, different end). =p

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Alright, as promised, this is my mix of Top Man's theme...done using only FL defaults (didn't use the FLMC4 pack)


I'm using yousendit.com for filehosting--just let me know if these links expire or whatever.

Top Man Spun Wild - FLP (http://download.yousendit.com/6EB413D02C759462) (with smart disable enabled so that your cpu doesn't crumple up and die)

Zipped Project File (http://download.yousendit.com/DCEE080D72DFDCA7) (in case you're missing some of the FL default samples)

Top Man Spun Wild - MP3 version (http://download.yousendit.com/37CEF4BA6697B442)


feed me comments, praise, pity, cookies, etc. for the most part this is pretty much done, but tiny tweaks may be in order in terms of mastering and such.

personally, i'm pretty pleased. =)

I'm still looking forward to what Sir_NutS makes, having already heard Change the World =D

[Bundeslang]

Bump.

I've gotten so used to some of my synths that it's hard to go back to 3xOSC... and my ears are hurting for it. So, yeah. I've got about 1:00 of acceptable sounding song.

Question though, can we use stuff we've recorded ourselves, such as beatboxing or singing?
The rules of this contest sais it's not allowed, because not everyone can use your singing in their song. The main rule of this contest is that all users work with the same samples.
But I'm not going to disqualify you if you use A LITTLE, ss long as not the whole song becomes a mix between sytrus and own samples.

Good to see DDRKirby(ISQ) posting his song already and taking 3 points. I must say it's much better as the one-hour-made entry from me. Nice colour variation in your FLP.
You earned your first 3 points already, you can only lose them by changing your song without submitting a new FLP.

I will post the songs on the site after the deadline.

[Bundeslang]

Bump, hopefully we get a nice competition.
If you have questions about the rules, feel free to post them.

[Sir_NutS]

I'll prolly finish mine this weekend. Don't expect much though, my FL skill aren't the same as in some time ago :p

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

I'll prolly finish mine this weekend. Don't expect much though, my FL skill aren't the same as in some time ago :p

I take it the switch over to reason treated you well?

i'm trying my hand at it too, to tell you the truth...

[Sir_NutS]

I take it the switch over to reason treated you well?

i'm trying my hand at it too, to tell you the truth...
I switched around 2 years ago. I use FL mostly for midi sequencing now, so my knowledge on how to get the best out of fl's defaults has been mostly forgotten :p. But my entry will be decent to say the least.

[RocketSniper]

I'm seriously working on one this time. Fear false lo-fi percussion.

[Bundeslang]

Great. I have been busy last days, getting drivers license etc, but now I'm able to give my attention to organise this.
Hope to see some great songs.

[Gollgagh]

I'm (hopefully) gonna start working on one, too. Remixing isn't my thing though, so I'm doing an original.


Oh, and I <3 your entry, DDRKirby.

[Sir_NutS]

My Entry is ALMOST finished, but now I don't have internet :( So I don't know if I'll be able to upload it on time when I finish it. Bonus mixes are acceptable right? Just in case.

[RocketSniper]

Do entries need titles? Normally I save things with random characters... so my most recent song's names are "asf" and "Okamvoweocaowc." Yeah, the names are that bad.

Song almost finished. Blarrh.

[Bundeslang]

My Entry is ALMOST finished, but now I don't have internet :( So I don't know if I'll be able to upload it on time when I finish it. Bonus mixes are acceptable right? Just in case.
Of course Bonus Mixes are acceptable. But you have over a week left, so there's still hope.

It's not obligated to give entry's a title, but it looks nicer.

[RocketSniper]

So bundeslang... I went to your site and got the .flp file, but half of the samples appear to be missing. I'm running off a clean install of FL, so I dunno what's up - may need .zippage.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

So bundeslang... I went to your site and got the .flp file, but half of the samples appear to be missing. I'm running off a clean install of FL, so I dunno what's up - may need .zippage.

His song uses samples from the FLMC4 pack--available as a zip download also from his site...

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

one week left, guys...

[Sir_NutS]

ok here it is

http://www.sirnuts.com/Stuff/Snakes_on_a_Loop.zip

It's a zipped loop file, I used samples from the demo songs (dunno if those are allowed, that's why I made the zip file). This song started great but then I ran out of ideas, so sorry :S. And well, I don't feel inspired by fl as much as before and I finished to not let the compo down, so it feels kinda forced. Anyways I hope someone enjoys it anyways cuz I did like some of it and enjoyed working on the first part. :)

Oh, its a remix of the snakeman theme, duh :p

[Bundeslang]

ok here it is

http://www.sirnuts.com/Stuff/Snakes_on_a_Loop.zip

It's a zipped loop file, I used samples from the demo songs (dunno if those are allowed, that's why I made the zip file). This song started great but then I ran out of ideas, so sorry :S. And well, I don't feel inspired by fl as much as before and I finished to not let the compo down, so it feels kinda forced. Anyways I hope someone enjoys it anyways cuz I did like some of it and enjoyed working on the first part. :)

Oh, its a remix of the snakeman theme, duh :p
It's fun and absolutely not bad, good you finished it. I'll upload this and the mp3 file I recorded from FL to my site after the deadline. I hope to see some more songs.

Remember, sunday is the deadline, voting starts tuesday (all songs posted before voting starts are in). I'll give you more information about the voting after the deadline, as mentioned before.

[RocketSniper]

Ahhh I did the snakeman theme too...



Oh well, It'll be posted here later today. Still trying to get rid of as much crappiness as possible.

So... Prepare yourselves for lots of vocoder, crazy too loud percussion, and a lot of misplaced instruments.


Edit: I just downloaded the .zip and ended up with a bunch of broken 3xosc's with missing shape samples... I think I'm doing something wrong again :confused:

[Gollgagh]

Bleh, amazing how little time college leaves you to do stuff.

I'll just leave the mixing to my brother for now.

[RocketSniper]

More liek http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/MM3_7.zip

Name: Oonts oonts snakeman oonts

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Ahhh I did the snakeman theme too...



Oh well, It'll be posted here later today. Still trying to get rid of as much crappiness as possible.

So... Prepare yourselves for lots of vocoder, crazy too loud percussion, and a lot of misplaced instruments.


Edit: I just downloaded the .zip and ended up with a bunch of broken 3xosc's with missing shape samples... I think I'm doing something wrong again :confused:


yeah same here--Sir_NuTs, you need to include those custom waveforms that you used in your 3xOsc's...
either that or render the mp3 yourself and upload that.
Even -with- the broken 3xOsc's it sounds pretty cool...=p

btw, RocketSniper your entry is da sh%t! (as in good @#$^, not bad @#%^) Had some really neat things goin on there...

[Bundeslang]

Remember, today it's 11 february, the Deadline. Judging will start tuesday (tuesday in the Netherlands). All songs submitted before that will be accepted. I'll post them on my site, a mp3 file AND a FLP file.
A FLP gives 3 points, like RocketSniper, S|r Nuts, DDRKirby(ISQ) and me did.

Also. DDRKirby(ISQ), you're ZIP file isn't downloadable anymore. Since I only have your FLP and your song it would be nice if you could set it back up, so I can upload it to my site.

[RocketSniper]

Alright, as promised, this is my mix of Top Man's theme...done using only FL defaults (didn't use the FLMC4 pack)


I'm using yousendit.com for filehosting--just let me know if these links expire or whatever.

Top Man Spun Wild - FLP (http://download.yousendit.com/6EB413D02C759462) (with smart disable enabled so that your cpu doesn't crumple up and die)

Zipped Project File (http://download.yousendit.com/DCEE080D72DFDCA7) (in case you're missing some of the FL default samples)

Top Man Spun Wild - MP3 version (http://download.yousendit.com/37CEF4BA6697B442)


feed me comments, praise, pity, cookies, etc. for the most part this is pretty much done, but tiny tweaks may be in order in terms of mastering and such.

personally, i'm pretty pleased. =)

I'm still looking forward to what Sir_NutS makes, having already heard Change the World =D

Ahh jeez I didn't see this post till I read back through the thread (for whatever reason my brain skipped the post - thought it was just me and nuts), but now it's expired! Aaargh!

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Sure thing, guys...

zip file: http://download.yousendit.com/8CC64A6A4FFB9D17

mp3: http://download.yousendit.com/0C2C6FF17C5728B4

[RocketSniper]

The cutoff control on that was amazing.

Along with use of sound effects.

And actually sounding good.

Well I just lost.

[Gollgagh]

Zip file. (http://elpollodiablo125.googlepages.com/noobmusic.zip)

mp3 thing. (http://elpollodiablo125.googlepages.com/NoobMusic.mp3)

I had to rush to finish this, 'cause I didn't start mixing until a few days ago. Procrastination ftl.

[Gollgagh]

My brother made some mastering changes to his, but is a little busy right now and asked me to post the updated version.
So, here we are, please use this version, instead:

FLMC5_noobmusic1.01_-_EPD flp (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q5OB3KW0)

FLMC5_noobmusic1.01_-_EPD mp3 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JRA20GP3)

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

My brother made some mastering changes to his, but is a little busy right now and asked me to post the updated version.
So, here we are, please use this version, instead:

FLMC5_noobmusic1.01_-_EPD flp (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q5OB3KW0)

FLMC5_noobmusic1.01_-_EPD mp3 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JRA20GP3)

The mp3 works, but the zip is corrupted and gives me a 0 kb broken flp file...

also, my files are now available on more permanent file hosting:
http://iosquad2.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_Mega_Man_3_Top_Man_Spun_.mp3
http://iosquad2.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_Mega_Man_3_Top_Man_Spun_.zip

[Gollgagh]

Bloody hell.

I guess it doesn't help that I'm running a pirated version of FL6. -_-

I'll see if he can do it later. (We're about 300 miles apart, btw)

[Bundeslang]

Gollgagh, El Pollo Diablo. I have downloaded the song. Try to get the FLP back up as soon as possible. If it's a bit after the deadline it's not a very big problem, I can start judging in the meanwhile.

[Bundeslang]

Welcome to the Voting Stage of FLMC5.

We have 5 remixes this round, Bundeslang, DDRKirby(ISQ), El Pollo Diablo (and Gollgagh), RocketSniper and S|r Nuts.

Listen to the songs and P.M. http://www.ocremix.org/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=8264
me your top 5. Contestants receive an additional first place if they vote, they don't have to place their own mix. You have to listen to the songs before voting. Voters remain anonymous. Voting ends monday 26 february.

Vote this way:

1st - (remixer)

2nd - (remixer)

3rd - (remixer)

4th - (remixer)

5th - (remixer)

The songs and ZIPped FLP files:
MP3 Songs: I recorded some FLP files in my FLP, hope it works.

Bundeslang: Dreaming About The Gemini Master
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-DreamingAboutTheGeminiMas.mp3

DDRKirbyISQ: Top Man Spun Wild
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_Mega_Man_3_Top_Man_Spun_.mp3

Gollgagh + El Pollo Diablo: Noobmusic
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/GollgaghElPolloDiablo-Noobmusic.mp3

RocketSniper: Oonts Oonts Snakeman Oonts
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/RocketSniper-OntoOntoSnakemanOnto.mp3

Sir Nuts: Snakes on a Loop
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/SirNuts-SnakesonaLoop.mp3


FLP in ZIP Files:
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-DreamingAboutTheGeminiMas.zip
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_Mega_Man_3_Top_Man_Spun_.zip
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/GollgaghElPolloDiablo-NoobmusicOLDVE.zip (This is the 'old' version, waiting for correct version).
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/RocketSniper-OntoOntoSnakemanOnto.zip
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/SirNuts-Snakes_on_a_Loop.zip

BONUS TRACK.
Blue Magic - Synthetic Luv
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/BlueMagic-MegaMan_3_Synthetic_Luv_2.mp3
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/MegaMan_3_Synthetic_Luv.flp

Too bad I can't change thread titles, I hope someone discovers it's voting stage already.


Good listen and happy voting.

[Blue Magic]

DAMMIT!!!!!!!!! I forgot to submit my sooooonnnggg!!!!!!!! I've been hella busy lately.

But its all good, it wasn't completed anyway. I guess I can work on it some more and make an OCR submission out of it.

Good luck to all of you guys who took place.

[Bundeslang]

DAMMIT!!!!!!!!! I forgot to submit my sooooonnnggg!!!!!!!! I've been hella busy lately.

But its all good, it wasn't completed anyway. I guess I can work on it some more and make an OCR submission out of it.

Good luck to all of you guys who took place.
Or submit it as a bonus track, or post now what you have. I didn't receive any votes yet. I'm not very hard about being late.

[Blue Magic]

Thanks Bundeslang.

Here is my FLMC5 mix. I will submit it as a BONUS TRACK, so it does not have to be judged. (Heck, I already know I wont win anyway)

http://www.angelfire.com/blues2/bluemagic/

[RocketSniper]

RocketSniper: Onto Onto Snakeman Onto
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/RocketSniper-OntoOntoSnakemanOnto.mp3



Argh, it was Oonts oonts snakeman oonts...

[Bundeslang]

Thanks Bundeslang.

Here is my FLMC5 mix. I will submit it as a BONUS TRACK, so it does not have to be judged. (Heck, I already know I wont win anyway)

http://www.angelfire.com/blues2/bluemagic/
Thanks, nice song, can't wait to here the full version. I will upload it as a Bonus Mix. Good you posted this.

Argh, it was Oonts oonts snakeman oonts...
Sorry, I edited the titles. I don't edit the mp3 download name because many other songs have a wrong name too.

[Gollgagh]

Hey, sorry this took so long. Been busy.

Here's another re-render:

http://elpollodiablo125.googlepages.com/ElPolloDiablo_-_NoobMusic.mp3

And the flp:

http://elpollodiablo125.googlepages.com/noobmusic.zip


Good luck to everyone!

Edit: Hey DDRKirby, if you have time, can you do another one of those commentaries? I'd like to know where I'm going wrong with my mastering, 'cause most of my songs end up muddy like this one. : /

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

yeah, i'm going to do comments on everyone's song like last time if i can--and i think i can, as long as i don't put it off TOO long =p

[Bundeslang]

Feel free to vote. Start with the
1st - ...
2nd - ...
3rd - ...
4th - ...
(5th) - ... (Only not entrants have a fifth place)

But you may add some comments. I would like to see this. It's not obligated.

I updated the ZIP file from El Pollo Diablo.

Now vote people.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

i'm working on my critiques right now, will have up by the end of tonight, hopefully.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

To all--enabling tools->smart disable on all your FX is a -great- way to make sure people don't have pops and clicks when they listen to your song =p

Of course, all critiques are entirely subjective and are completely biased, and only represent my POV, etc. etc. If you really think I'm wrong, you're probably right.

(note: post split in two because of char limit...yes, i wrote THAT much...)

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***DDRKirby(ISQ) - Top Man Spun Wild***
hey, it's my own mix! =)
I still love this one. Maybe could have used a bit more variation, but that build-up is friggin awesome, and the 303 section ain't too shabby either. I like how the build-up is different the second time around, more energy from the kick and bass goin...makes me wanna pump the volume up...
Also, gotta love the playlist gradients. Pretty colors...

Summary:
-friggin kick-ass buildup
-Mass 3xOsc supersaw ftw
-ending could have been worked better
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***Bundeslang - Dreaming About The Gemini Master***

No 3xOsc =(. Really, really, you need to learn how to use the 3xOsc. It's a rather simple synth in nature, but it ends up being one of the most powerful tools in FL Studio's arsenal...(look at my FLP for an example)
That being said, you do seem to have a better handle on how to use the program now--you don't have any weird offset patterns in the playlist like there were in Soft Party, for example.
Your arrangement is still very sporadic, but right now that's understandable since you don't seem to be working with a good range of sounds. Learning how to use the 3xOsc, or finding more samples (there ARE some better ones in the FL defaults), would help.
I'd say the next step is to maybe look at a simple song and try to recreate its different elements--listen to it and try to deconstruct it into drums, bass, lead, pads, etc. so you know how the full sound is put together. If you have the FL example songs, looking at those and seeing how things are done and whatnot works wonders as well. If you'd like, I actually have a "make a song" tutorial that I can send to you--it's not very rigorous, but it gives you an idea of some of the things I do. Just shoot me a PM or something.
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***Sir_NutS - Snakes on a Loop***
Ah, I can always expect something good out of Sir_NutS...

-okay, so in the beginning you have the ArpA pattern going, and I didn't like how you had the pattern as xXxyYyzZxXxyYyzZ (where capital letter is higher octave note). I understand that's how the arpeggiator did it for you, but the higher notes being offset a bit kinda makes it sounds just a taddd bit funky. I would have liked XxXYyYZzXxXYyYZz or something like that better, probably. Once things start going it's fine, though--just in the beginning when it's singled out is when I notice it.

-uhm...ok so you're using send channel 1 for reverb, okay...but it's not quite set up how I would think it should be (unless you did that intentionally). Maybe you're just used to the mastering plugins in Reason? =p
So you have the Fruity Reeverb 2 as a plugin in send channel 1, but it's not set up as a send effect--it allows the dry sound to pass through as well as outputting the wet sound...so you're getting the dry sound twice (once from the original channel -> master output, then another time from original channel -> send 1 -> master output), which isn't usually what I would do. The other thing is that sometimes (channel 9, 10, and 12, for instance) you have reverb in the channel fx as insert effects, but you have those going to send 1 as well, so you end up having dry+reverb, plus another dry+reverb, plus dry+reverb+reverb! Which seems quite unwieldy...and that might be causing some of the clutter in the loud sections of the song.

-I liked the congas in the percussion--added a nice touch =)
-Beginning buildup was actually pretty nice, especially going into the main section at 0:55--dropping the drums for a bar and using the CrashFX worked.

-The main melody sounds "inconsistent" through the pattern--this is because you used filter cutoff automation on the notes...you were probably going for that effect, but I wasn't really digging it too much. Also if you go into your TranceLead pattern you'll discover that the 3rd note (1st note of the actual melody) is accidentally doubled. whoops! (unless that was intentional, haha)

-the second little buildup section at ~1:20 with the flanged snare roll and that sustained high note (which was great) was pretty good--could have used better filter automation on the main lead, perhaps. The actual "arrival point" lacked a certain oomph, though. The one bar kick roll was great...but...i dunno. Maybe the crash needed more punch or something. Maybe the mix just needed a bit more room (because the whole reverb thing made things a bit mushy)

-you can totally better bass synth than using that sample...=p

-your individual channels are mixed really high. You compensate for it all by lowering the master fader volume, but I'd probably prefer to mix the individual channels low, then you can bring stuff up later. Especially if you're going to master in something other than FL--in that case you'd leave like 3dB headroom in your master output and then maximize/normalize everything using something else (i've never done it before though). Right now your master output shows maybe a bit of clipping on the FL monitor? (I really don't like using the postfader on the master output channel, as you can't really analyze the final signal that much that way--i prefer to use a Fruity Balance or a Parametric EQ to bring the global volume down as an insert effect)

-The "pluck" section at ~2:03 is wayyy too loud...needs to be softer to offer contrast, IMHO...also the piano part stops a bit abruptly--dunno what would be the best way to fix that...although, the problem would be alleviated a bit if the piano weren't so "bangy" and loud =p

-Okay, that layered TS404 synth is -the- greatest thing about the entire song. Nice use of volume automation...filter cutoff control...and the cross delay worked as well. Sweeeeeeeet. It drops out a bit too noticably when the kick roll comes in, though.

-Over towards 2:50 things really start trying to fight for space--this is the Send 1 thing again...just by turning that channel down it sounds a bit less clashy to me...

-and then that awesome synth comes back in. tasty.

-that SweetMelody pattern is a nice way to end things--an encapsulation of the main melody, but only a little reminder of it.

Summary:
-missing waveforms in the 3xOsc's...so I dunno what happened there...
-Send Channel 1 issues made everything seem loud and clashy at times
-TS404 synth was uber-awesome
-I saw lots of 3xOsc presets...I could call you lazy, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and say it was just because you're too used to Subtractor and Malstrom. =p
-Tone that piano part down!
-Good structure and development, arrangement-wise. The main lead could have probably been more interesting, though.
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[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

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***RocketSniper - Oonts Oonts Snakeman Oonts***
-Okay right off the bat, I gotta say...that Blood Overdrive on the hits at the beginning was totally uncalled for...at least not to that extreme...turn it off and listen to the pattern and it makes more sense (to me, at least). Maybe like half of what you did would have been a nice balance--now it just sounds all GRAHHHHHH...

-things start out kinda slow, but then toward ~0:40 I'm like awwww yeah now we're talkin...what with the chopped up loops and the bass comes in and everything....yeahhhhhhhh

-nice liberties taken with the main melody, stayed recognizable but added just the right amount of variation and countermelody that it wasn't a bland copy+paste job.

-at ~1:40 I liked how you took everything down a notch, made me a little expectant, I was just waiting for things to go back into full swing. I might have liked it if you had kept the bassy arpeggio through until that cutout point and cut everything at the same time, though. dunno.

-nice vocoder work...and the "reverse" bar at 2:18 was cool.

-more l33t perkussion work...tasty.

-at 2:33 when you bring things up a notch, seems like you coulda worked up a buildup to that better (one bar fill maybe?)

-nice panning on the "one...one..." sample at 3:00...then we get to

-the swing section, which I was totally digging...I think i might have liked it better if you had the kick come in right away instead of waiting 8 bars or so, but it's all good.

-then we got some nice filter automation...all good, all good...scratching work...light arpeggio...then you bring in the strings, PERFECT...3:48 till 4:26 hit the spot, pretty much...then it kinda settles into a different groove--I wasn't quite feeling it there, maybe some more variation in the melody--different synth or something might have been better there. I didn't like how the percussion stepped up at 5:20...it's an outro so I didn't really want anything to come back in. Also at around 5:27 you have a gap in the gating of your strings, not sure if that was intentional or not.

-using the vocoded loop for your ending, that's fine, but maybe try and fade it out a bit maybe?

Summary:
-l33t percussion work. I'd love to see what you can do when you're -not- limited to FL defaults.
-nice variation on the snakeman theme
-arrangement was for the most part good. In a few instances i might have liked things to be structured a bit differently, but other times the stuff you did really hit the spot...awww yeah.
-things started out a bit slow, but in the middle there was good stuff.
-synths were for the most part okay. not really anything special but they worked just fine.
-i think maybe you could have fit a break in there somewhere--like 8 bars or so with minimal accompanying synths where you just go crazy on the drum loops and all.
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***Gollgagh + El Pollo Diablo - Noobmusic***
First off, I for the life of me can't figure out what source tune you used. I went through the nsf and...didn't find anything. o_o
Also, I'm not sure the "noobmusic" drum loop you used is legal, since AFAIK it's not an FL default and it's not in the FLMC4 pack. =/ but I'm going to be nice and evaluate your mix anyways.

anyhoo, onto the actual project...you mentioned you wanted comments on mastering and mixing, so I'll try to focus on that (although to tell you the truth I can't really say i'm an expert on these things...)

before we get to the actual song i just want to take a look at your mixer setup--for example, you've got your master output fader at about 90% or so, and I'm not exactly sure why. It does leave some headroom for your mix, but since you're not actually doing any mastering outside of FL for this, i don't see any real reason for that--you just end up making everything softer (unless you normalize afterward).

next off you've got send channel 1 as "HP" (highpass i'm presuming)--I don't exactly know what you were going for here. I tried listening to the output of what went through that channel only and well, i still can't exactly tell what you were trying to do. You have an EQ there that does indeed act as a highpass filter, but the cutoff frequency is pretty low, and it ends up actually boosting quite a bit around the 200 area, which makes the sound more boomy. Then you slapped a multiband compressor on there...i don't really like using multiband compressors that often...i dunno, essentially you just thinned out the sound my compressing it and making it softer, so I don't exactly see how that was a highpass effect. And I don't really know how that would benefit the entire mix as a send effect either. Maybe I'm missing something?

In regards to the overall mix, the main problem is the bass, which is sooo boomy that it's eating away at the space for everything else. Just play the song and mute the bass and you'll see that all of a sudden you can actually hear stuff again. Most of the problem is just that the bass is too loud in volume overall, but also you generall don't want to have delay or reeverb on your bass because it can get pretty muddy. A lot of people do their basses in mono too, so it's more centered, just like a kick. Remember, as a general rule, the level of the bass should be soft enough so that when you listen to the mix you won't notice it unless you know it's there and you listen for it consciously. So just loud enough to be heard and felt if you're trying to. You have to especially watch out for the level on your bass because you have a bass which plays long sustained notes (as opposed to something like the one in my mix) so it can get pretty boomy and drown out everything else. Maybe you mix on speakers or headphones that don't have enough bass response, that's why you mixed your bass so loud?

You also have quite a bit of delay and reverb on your mix that you might want to tone down--delay + reverb is usually pretty nice on synths, but make sure it's not too much, and be careful about notching the feedback up, as it can just cause all sorts of mud.

Your drums are also really loud--obviously you wanted meaty drums here, with the distortion and everything, but be careful not to go overboard, especially since your drumloop is -already- distorted to begin with. You want meaty, PUNCHY distortion, not just GRAAHHHHHH "wall of sound" noise.

So essentially, between the bass and drums you've taken up maybe 90% of the soundspace that you have available, so trying to squeeze the rest of the actual song into there is causing all the clashing and makes it all muddy.

Try to mix low--with your kick peaking at -6dB or something like that--it'll sound soft when you mix, and that's okay. Just turn your speakers/headphones volume up. Then -later- after you have all your different elements laid down you can start adjusting levels and maybe boosting when necessary and using some =light= compression on the master mix to bring things up a little bit. Usually easier to boost and try to fill out the soundscape rather than to try and cut into a mix that's already cluttered.

This also applies to EQ as well. Usually it's better to cut, then to boost EQ. Look at the EQ on your "noobsynth" and your pads for example--you boosted most of the entire middle frequency range, including around the 250 area, by 6 dB or so, which not only made everything very LOUD, but also made it boomy. Unless you want drastic changes to your sound, usually EQing anything over 5dB isn't really advisable. (one notable exception is when you want to cut the low or high end of something, in which case you can just go and cut it way down)

Also the EQ on your drums is oooooooh god vicious. usually you only want to touch those lower two frequency bands by maybe 2-3 dB at the =most=...otherwise things get boomy reallllll fast...I understand you were probably trying to get a massive bass sound out of your kick, but that's not always the way to go about it. Actually I find that compression (to get more PUNCH out of things, meaning you need to set your attack to maybe 50 or 100 ms, not 0) plus a slight midrange cut can make a kick drum more punchy. experiment...

Although, your kick drum from the "noobloop" is already pretty messy, it's overdistorted, so...

Your intro was pretty cool, the gated pad was pretty sweet.

Arrangement-wise, you had some neat elements going on...the 303, the arp, filter automation, etc. But there wasn't really anything interesting about the development of the song--in other words, needs more variation--having the same melody for one and a half minutes isn't always too great =p.

I'd be wary of having that notch filter on the master fx channel on the entire time--might be doing something to your sound without you noticing it. How bout only turning it on when you do the sweep effect, hm?

I've tried to work out a quick re-mixing/remastering of your mix--in other words I tried to do what I could, in a few minutes. I'll admit I couldn't really do that much, but you can see what I tried to do and the differences, etc.
http://iosquad2.googlepages.com/noobiermusic.zip

I think I've rambled on enough...

Summary:
-Less bass, dammit!
-Be wary of boosting when using EQ, as it can muddy things up really fast
-Weird "HP" channel confuses me
-Careful of overusing delay + reverb
-Mix low, bring things up later
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[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

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***Blue Magic - Synthetic Luv***
mmm...you used a compressor on the master mix as a limiter to prevent clipping, but how about putting that -after- the overdrive and the EQUO, since that EQUO might actually introduce more sound...

Main thing here is probably you want more interesting synths--your percussion is fine, and that "short synth" is actually a neat touch, and you got the strings going in the background...but your lead seems kinda dull and weak on top of it all. Try to get something phatter...

I'd write more, but this is a bonus track, and it's rather short, and I really just want to finish this up...

Summary:
-more interesting synths (massive lead? detuning? flanger? anything...)
-percussion actually not quite bad at all...
-in general mix sounds "thin" a lot of the time, try to fill out the sound spectrum a bit more, maybe.
-"short synth" is (b-_-)b
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alright, that's all folks...see if you can guess how I voted based on my critiques...lol...

[Gollgagh]

Just gonna say that I really had nothing to do with the mix.

Like at all.

I couldn't mix to save my life.

[RocketSniper]

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***RocketSniper - Oonts Oonts Snakeman Oonts***
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Just... Holy crap. That's easily worth twice as much as all of the input I've ever gotten on the WIP forum.

[Bundeslang]

***Bundeslang - Dreaming About The Gemini Master***

This song was created to start the contest, I didn't spend much time on it. I know there are still lots of things to improve. I would like to read the 'Make a Song' tutorial from DDRKirby(ISQ).

Remember. Voting ends monday, so there's still much time. I didn't receive many votes, so start voting people, and entrants who didn't vote yet.

[Gollgagh]

Cool, thanks for writing that.


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***Gollgagh + El Pollo Diablo - Noobmusic***
First off, I for the life of me can't figure out what source tune you used. I went through the nsf and...didn't find anything. o_o

Yeah, it's a [rather terrible] original. Bundeslang said that we didn't have to remix, so I didn't remix.


Also, I'm not sure the "noobmusic" drum loop you used is legal, since AFAIK it's not an FL default and it's not in the FLMC4 pack. =/ but I'm going to be nice and evaluate your mix anyways.

I created the drumloop using FL samples, then exported it to wav to save time/CPU. You can see it in pattern one.



before we get to the actual song i just want to take a look at your mixer setup--for example, you've got your master output fader at about 90% or so, and I'm not exactly sure why. It does leave some headroom for your mix, but since you're not actually doing any mastering outside of FL for this, i don't see any real reason for that--you just end up making everything softer (unless you normalize afterward).

I have no idea what I was doing with that.


next off you've got send channel 1 as "HP" (highpass i'm presuming)--I don't exactly know what you were going for here. I tried listening to the output of what went through that channel only and well, i still can't exactly tell what you were trying to do. You have an EQ there that does indeed act as a highpass filter, but the cutoff frequency is pretty low, and it ends up actually boosting quite a bit around the 200 area, which makes the sound more boomy.

In theory, the HP EQ was supposed to remove the overtones around and below 200 from each of the channels other than the drums and bass, to leave some space for them. I didn't listen to it without the EQ, so I don't know how well it worked.


Then you slapped a multiband compressor on there...i don't really like using multiband compressors that often...i dunno, essentially you just thinned out the sound my compressing it and making it softer, so I don't exactly see how that was a highpass effect.

Originally, I had a Soft Clipper there. It didn't work like I wanted it to, so I switched to a Compressor, which sounded weird, or something. So I switched to a MultiBand Compressor. I have no idea how to use compressors.



In regards to the overall mix, the main problem is the bass, which is sooo boomy that it's eating away at the space for everything else. Just play the song and mute the bass and you'll see that all of a sudden you can actually hear stuff again. Most of the problem is just that the bass is too loud in volume overall, but also you generall don't want to have delay or reeverb on your bass because it can get pretty muddy. A lot of people do their basses in mono too, so it's more centered, just like a kick. Remember, as a general rule, the level of the bass should be soft enough so that when you listen to the mix you won't notice it unless you know it's there and you listen for it consciously. So just loud enough to be heard and felt if you're trying to. You have to especially watch out for the level on your bass because you have a bass which plays long sustained notes (as opposed to something like the one in my mix) so it can get pretty boomy and drown out everything else.

'Kay, I'll keep this in mind.


You also have quite a bit of delay and reverb on your mix that you might want to tone down--delay + reverb is usually pretty nice on synths, but make sure it's not too much, and be careful about notching the feedback up, as it can just cause all sorts of mud.

This is a bad habit I have. I tend to just stick reverb + delay on all of my synths, without thinking.




This also applies to EQ as well. Usually it's better to cut, then to boost EQ. Look at the EQ on your "noobsynth" and your pads for example--you boosted most of the entire middle frequency range, including around the 250 area, by 6 dB or so, which not only made everything very LOUD, but also made it boomy. Unless you want drastic changes to your sound, usually EQing anything over 5dB isn't really advisable. (one notable exception is when you want to cut the low or high end of something, in which case you can just go and cut it way down)

This is another bad habit of mine. I like to use EQ to change the sound of everything, and I end up boosting the midrange on most of my tracks. D:



Also the EQ on your drums is oooooooh god vicious. usually you only want to touch those lower two frequency bands by maybe 2-3 dB at the =most=...otherwise things get boomy reallllll fast...I understand you were probably trying to get a massive bass sound out of your kick, but that's not always the way to go about it. Actually I find that compression (to get more PUNCH out of things, meaning you need to set your attack to maybe 50 or 100 ms, not 0) plus a slight midrange cut can make a kick drum more punchy. experiment...

Yep, I was trying to get a HUEG sound out of my kick. I'll try your method out though.


Arrangement-wise, you had some neat elements going on...the 303, the arp, filter automation, etc. But there wasn't really anything interesting about the development of the song--in other words, needs more variation--having the same melody for one and a half minutes isn't always too great =p.

This came from a lack of time; I created the first minute or so in around 5 hours, went to sleep, woke up, and wrote the last 2 minutes of the song in around 30 minutes.


I've tried to work out a quick re-mixing/remastering of your mix--in other words I tried to do what I could, in a few minutes. I'll admit I couldn't really do that much, but you can see what I tried to do and the differences, etc.
http://iosquad2.googlepages.com/noobiermusic.zip

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[Sir_NutS]

To all--enabling tools->smart disable on all your FX is a -great- way to make sure people don't have pops and clicks when they listen to your song =p


I know that, I just don't need to smart disable anymore cuz i have a computer that can handle practically anything I throw at it.


***Sir_NutS - Snakes on a Loop***
Ah, I can always expect something good out of Sir_NutS...

-okay, so in the beginning you have the ArpA pattern going, and I didn't like how you had the pattern as xXxyYyzZxXxyYyzZ (where capital letter is higher octave note). I understand that's how the arpeggiator did it for you, but the higher notes being offset a bit kinda makes it sounds just a taddd bit funky. I would have liked XxXYyYZzXxXYyYZz or something like that better, probably. Once things start going it's fine, though--just in the beginning when it's singled out is when I notice it.

Thanks.
I don't use the arpeggiator, well, didn't use it when I used fl. I got lazy for the most part while doing this song, and resorted to some of the lazy tools.


-uhm...ok so you're using send channel 1 for reverb, okay...but it's not quite set up how I would think it should be (unless you did that intentionally). Maybe you're just used to the mastering plugins in Reason? =p
So you have the Fruity Reeverb 2 as a plugin in send channel 1, but it's not set up as a send effect--it allows the dry sound to pass through as well as outputting the wet sound...so you're getting the dry sound twice (once from the original channel -> master output, then another time from original channel -> send 1 -> master output), which isn't usually what I would do. The other thing is that sometimes (channel 9, 10, and 12, for instance) you have reverb in the channel fx as insert effects, but you have those going to send 1 as well, so you end up having dry+reverb, plus another dry+reverb, plus dry+reverb+reverb! Which seems quite unwieldy...and that might be causing some of the clutter in the loud sections of the song.

The whole reeverb send thing is intentional, I've always used that setup in my songs. Yes I have reeverb inserts + reeverb sends too. It's not unusual for people to do that, it adds different colors to the reeverb of the sound.


-The main melody sounds "inconsistent" through the pattern--this is because you used filter cutoff automation on the notes...you were probably going for that effect, but I wasn't really digging it too much. Also if you go into your TranceLead pattern you'll discover that the 3rd note (1st note of the actual melody) is accidentally doubled. whoops! (unless that was intentional, haha)
yeah I didn't notice the doubled note. for the Cutoff automation, that was intentional, just tried to add a bit of subtle differences, expression if you may, to the melody.


-the second little buildup section at ~1:20 with the flanged snare roll and that sustained high note (which was great) was pretty good--could have used better filter automation on the main lead, perhaps. The actual "arrival point" lacked a certain oomph, though. The one bar kick roll was great...but...i dunno. Maybe the crash needed more punch or something. Maybe the mix just needed a bit more room (because the whole reverb thing made things a bit mushy)

Yeah I agree it lacked a bit oomph. And my fruityloops mastering isn't what used to be either(though as I said, i got lazy with the song)

-your individual channels are mixed really high. You compensate for it all by lowering the master fader volume, but I'd probably prefer to mix the individual channels low, then you can bring stuff up later. Especially if you're going to master in something other than FL--in that case you'd leave like 3dB headroom in your master output and then maximize/normalize everything using something else (i've never done it before though). Right now your master output shows maybe a bit of clipping on the FL monitor? (I really don't like using the postfader on the master output channel, as you can't really analyze the final signal that much that way--i prefer to use a Fruity Balance or a Parametric EQ to bring the global volume down as an insert effect)
That's more of a matter of preference. Though I usually never touch the master volume, but for this song I had to because, as I said, I got lazy and didn't want to mess around much with the mastering.

-The "pluck" section at ~2:03 is wayyy too loud...needs to be softer to offer contrast, IMHO...also the piano part stops a bit abruptly--dunno what would be the best way to fix that...although, the problem would be alleviated a bit if the piano weren't so "bangy" and loud =p
Frankly at that point I didn't want to mix the song anymore, everything was going well until I wanted to add the piano section and noticed that fl had shit for piano defaults. So I kinda got angry there and just threw both the pluck and the fl piano in heh.


Summary:
-missing waveforms in the 3xOsc's...so I dunno what happened there...
-Send Channel 1 issues made everything seem loud and clashy at times
-TS404 synth was uber-awesome
-I saw lots of 3xOsc presets...I could call you lazy, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and say it was just because you're too used to Subtractor and Malstrom. =p
-Tone that piano part down!
-Good structure and development, arrangement-wise. The main lead could have probably been more interesting, though.
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Missing waveforms? there were none that I know. I used the presets I had left from the bunch I made back in my fl days but I made sure I use sawwaves instead of the custom saw I used to use. If you say it because the color shows red, that's how I saved the presets.
too many 3xosc presets = again, laziness. I had tons of presets that I made for everything, from synths to effects, back in my fruityloops days, but I lost them all and the few I have left are those I used there(like trancelead) and that I could have because I sent them to a friend some time ago. When I'm doing a song I rarely use presets, but I create my own. For Reason I have tons of presets made for malstrom, subtractor and every other machine, cuz reason presets are crap for the most part, and even released a refill with a collection of my own patches and loops (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7341) a few days ago, so no, NutS and presets don't get along at all(unless they are presets made by me), I actually despise the use of presets and loops, so don't think I just go out browsing the reason soundbank and slapping presets for subtractor and maelstrom like a lot of people do :p. Everything you hear from me, is NutS-authentic.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

The whole reeverb send thing is intentional, I've always used that setup in my songs. Yes I have reeverb inserts + reeverb sends too. It's not unusual for people to do that, it adds different colors to the reeverb of the sound.
Well, you learn something new everyday...I was pretty sure it was intentional, but wasn't exactly sure what the point of it was.

That's more of a matter of preference. Though I usually never touch the master volume, but for this song I had to because, as I said, I got lazy and didn't want to mess around much with the mastering.
I'm really no expert on mastering myself (cue Snappleman)

Frankly at that point I didn't want to mix the song anymore, everything was going well until I wanted to add the piano section and noticed that fl had shit for piano defaults. So I kinda got angry there and just threw both the pluck and the fl piano in heh.
no kidding...i need to find me a good piano sf sometime...

Missing waveforms? there were none that I know. I used the presets I had left from the bunch I made back in my fl days but I made sure I use sawwaves instead of the custom saw I used to use. If you say it because the color shows red, that's how I saved the presets.
ah, I just assumed red = broken, and whatnot. ok good deal.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

voting ends soon...sooooooooooon...

[Bundeslang]

I hope all remixers which didn't vote find some time to give this a vote.
Everyone can vote, so please do. Monday is the Deadline.

[Bundeslang]

Vote ends monday, as mentioned before, so the results will be posted around Wednesday. More information about the next FLMC later.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

is the winnar going to organize the next one (like in the past) or are you going to keep doing it?

[Bundeslang]

is the winnar going to organize the next one (like in the past) or are you going to keep doing it?

If the winner wants to do hit, I'll let him do it but I can keep the organisation. The winner may decide. No reaction means I'll keep doing this.

[Gollgagh]

Last place, here I come...

[Bundeslang]

Last place, here I come...
No, you are wrong.

RESULTS:

The number last is, of course, Bundeslang with 12 points.
El Pollo Diablo (and Gollgagh) did better as El Pollo Diablo thought by taking fourth place.
S|r Nuts tried to make a nice remix from Snakeman after his 'Deadly Poison' and he takes tirth place.
Rocket Sniper beated S|r Nuts in the 'Snakematch', second place.
And the winner is...DDRKirby(ISQ).

Scores:
18 p. DDRKirby(ISQ) - Congratulations
15 p. RocketSniper - The best of the rest
14 p. S|r Nuts - Great mix
13 p. El Pollo Diablo & Gollgagh - Not last
12 p. Bundeslang - The loser.

DDRKirby(ISQ), send me a PM, or post here, about the organisation for the next round. I would like to do it, but if you want, you can organise FLMC6.

If you don't want to organise it, PM me the source tune (and maybe some samples if you would like to) for the next round.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

I'd like to take over FLMC6, if you don't mind.

Actually I was going to PM GLL because I know he was working on getting some midi's to remix before.

If that doesn't work, I still have another theme idea, kinda like FLMC3's "Shattered Dreams" concept.

In either case, I'll have something up by monday, (or possibly sunday).

[Bundeslang]

I'd like to take over FLMC6, if you don't mind.

Actually I was going to PM GLL because I know he was working on getting some midi's to remix before.

If that doesn't work, I still have another theme idea, kinda like FLMC3's "Shattered Dreams" concept.

In either case, I'll have something up by monday, (or possibly sunday).

OK, good luck, hope it gets a nice turnout.

[Sir_NutS]

gah... thread title change is SO necessary... *sigh*

anyways, nice work.

[RocketSniper]

Woohoo!


Sorry about not voting - I was going to but I ended up getting several dozen hardware error blue screens over the last month or so. I'm still not sure what's causing the problem, but it seems to have stopped for now...

Oh well... GG Next map

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

ok i was planning on getting #6 up and running tonight, but i didn't realize that I'm actually going out of town tonight. d'oh! I've already got the theme though, and i'm working on a sample pack. Expect something from me tomorrow night.