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Ginnsu
08-24-2002, 07:16 PM
Final Fantasy 6 'Eres des Points'

This... is... WOW. Makes me feel like swearing WOW! and that doesn't happen often. WOW! Ok, I got to start saying something other then wow. How about "Bonjour" to start off with and then "Mon nom est Ginnsu." Yes, thats right, I'm going to torture you with all the french I remember from Grade 10. No... no I'm not, because this mix hardly deserves that kind of negative attention. Ok then, being completely serious, this mix is French Rap. Yes, you read me correctly. Thats two barriers broken on OC Remix. Now I really wish I had of paid attnetion in French 10, and maybe even passed the class. The only two words in this song that I can recognize are "avec moi" which means "with me." Other then that I'm completely lost. *ahem* Enough about the French, how about the mix. It's amazing. I suggest that you all take a listen to it at least once. If you don't like it, thats fine. But if you do, you'll not just like it but I'm sure you'll also be considerably impressed. I'm still floating in the clouds about how strange and amazing this really is, so bare with me. This is probably one of the most amazing things I've ever heard on OC Remix. Now, obviously, musically it might not compaire to McVaffe, or Scott Peeples, but the impression this mix has on me, anyways, is astounding. This mix in my words is fabulous, brilliant, magnificent, and one hell of a tremendous piece of work. In conclusion, a stunning piece of work DJ Crono, you make me wish I knew french really badly. My goodness.

littlechava
08-24-2002, 07:23 PM
yeah i really like this remix. i think it goes on my top ten favorite remixes. good job dj crono. for everyone else who hasnt listened to it yet i cant describe it so ill just say you need to download it quickly :lol:

Goolancer
08-24-2002, 07:25 PM
OH NOS STOP REMIXING THIS GAEM YOU GAYS

Just kidding...

Wow. I have no idea what he is saying, but this is great. One of the most original remixes I've heard in a while.

Psycrow
08-24-2002, 09:24 PM
I like, but post the translation here sometime eh? :)

Emjay
08-24-2002, 09:42 PM
I think it's great how remixers have been breaking away from the more standard techno sound lately and expanding into other genres. I'm no fan of rap. However, compliments on originality. A true test of a composer's (or remixer's in this case) talent is their ability to expand into other genres without sacrificing the standard quality of the music.

Ginnsu
08-24-2002, 11:26 PM
Exactly my feeling Emjay, and it's also a whole lot easier for me to do a (lengthy) review of a remix if its new, different, and tests the boundries somewhat. I don't like rap, and generally hate french if only because the school system forced me to take 3 years of it. But this mix fits the profile of something that is new to this site, exciting, and although not in every ones specific taste (like you can please everyone anyways,) it is excellently produced.

I'd better stop posting long reiterations of why I think this mix is so great or somebody might shoot me.

EmptyMy
08-25-2002, 12:16 AM
One word: FRESH!
This is the coolest remix I've heard here in a long, long time. Sounds really professional. But I'm not sure I want to know what he's saying... I'm afraid that would spoil it, somehow.

Solanalos
08-25-2002, 12:35 AM
Well, I gave it a good listen.

I must admit to being extremely impressed with how professional the remix sounds.

However, I'll be the first to say that, at the moment, I don't like the remix itself.

I think I might change my mind once the translation of the lyrics from the rap are posted.

It's nothing personal against French or Rap, or French Rap :)

But I'd like to know what's being said, especially when there's a lot of it in the remix.

vdj_microbe
08-25-2002, 01:23 AM
Tres bein Dj Chrono! Je l'aime beaucoup! Honestly I liked this remix a lot! I've been a fan of some french rap back when I was in grade school learning the darn language. I never knew that Terra's song could be manitpulated in the way you just did.

Maintenes le bon travail!

(My French is a little rusty, but you may get the gist of it)

Kureejii Lea
08-25-2002, 01:47 AM
Well, it definately gets points for originality. I'm surprised how well Terra's theme worked with that genre... it's great! As for the rap itself, well... not bad, but it sounds a little odd... maybe because of the French pronounciation? Not a lot of hard, precise sounds... either way, I couldn't pick up a lot of the lyrics myself; the only definate words I think I caught were "with me." o_o I'd like to see them written. At times, however, the vocals almost sound too seperate from the melody track, as though they were seperately recorded and added as samples. Not that that's a bad thing... ah, I don't know. I don't really like that little moan either. =P

Overall, pretty cool work tho.

Sesshoumaru
08-25-2002, 03:08 AM
wicked cool remix! and "eres des points" = "eras of the points"

Mr_Thou
08-25-2002, 03:27 AM
All in all a great sounding, and nicely mixed.
But I do not like rap, So for originality, and sounds quality, 9ish:)
For the kind of thing, i like, only a 2. But great mix, just not my style

overZEALous
08-25-2002, 04:25 AM
I'd have to say that (aside from team Gato, of course...cause that was just too damn funny to ignore,) this has got to be my favorite song out of OC Remix. I mean, sure, everything has its sound and all, but this is awesome! I'm currently taking French II, so I probably wouldn't understand some of the words without a handy dictionary, but I can conjugate! :lol: And don't get me for biased here, I really didn't think that Rap and French went together until I heard this. And with Terra's theme playing in rhythm just sounded so..*shivers*...SEXY! Anyone who needs something to listen to should PICK THIS UP. It'll get your spirits up and your mouth rollin' (from what you can comprehend anyway. Heh heh...) Once again, an awesome remix. Thanks, DJ Crono! Keep up the good and unique work!

Dinobot 2
08-25-2002, 04:30 AM
I agree, I just downloaded this song, and must say it's one of the better FF6 mixes out there.

Tansunn
08-25-2002, 04:37 AM
I'd have to agree with Ginnsu... WOW. My only complaints are the vocals seem to be drowned out near the end, and that synthesized (?) electric guitar is a little too loud, but everything else is great.

(P.S. They should have done the Sonic Adventure 2 raps in French :wink: )

Evil
08-25-2002, 05:41 AM
Well, I've disliked pretty much every rap song I've ever heard and this one is no exception so I'm not really in a psition to review this remix. However, I am a native french speaker and I'll do my best to translate what I can decipher, but I have difficulty to figure out what he's saying because of his accent. When I don't know I'll put my best guess in brackets. A lot of the lyrics are expressions but I won't adapt them, so maybe it won't make much sense in english.

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

Chacune des épreuves c'est ...[différent à chaque fois?]
Every challenge is... [different each time?]

J'ai ce qu'il faut dans les veines pour...
[i]I have what it takes in my blood... [I dunno]

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

Arrière! (or Oh yeah!) Y'a pas personne ici bas avec moi.
Back off! (or Oh yeah!) There's noone down here with me.

Y'a pas de voix(or voie), y'a pas de [femme, mort sur l'église du... I have no clue]
There's no voice (or way), there's no [woman, death on the church of... I can't even make out de syllables he's using]

Pas de [garin?], pas de carrosse... Pas de garin pas de carrosse pour [s'en aller au mail. Gareo à la rage?].
No [might be slang I'm unfamiliar with), no coach (the vehicule) to [go to the mall? Gareo has rabies?]

Musique de montagne, [les barrières sont mises à terre] Pour s'introduire ici la [glue?] s'empare des chaines.
Music from the mountains, [the barriers are pushed down?] To get in here the [glue??] gets hold of the chains (or TV channels)

Pas de porte ouverte, pas de bonne place à dégotter, rien, des [départs, les ? s'en sont flanqués?].
No open door, no good place to find, nothing, the [departures, the ? used them for themselves?].



Pas de main sur mon épaule, pas de succès assuré, pas de voix qui me dira ["petit"?] quand je vais [m'écraser?].
[i]No hand on my shoulder, no assured success, no voice that will tell me ["kid"?] when I'll [crash?]

Pas de boss sur mon dos, pas de [mec?] à mes côté, pas de porte ouverte, pas de bonne place à dégotter, rien, des [départs, les ? s'en sont flanqués?].
No boss on my back, no [man?] next to me, no open door, no good place to find, nothing, the [departures, the ? used them for themselves?].

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

[repeat mixed parts of the lyrics]


I know, it is far from perfect or complete and doesn't make sense most of the time but it's all I'm able to do. We'll just have to wait for the official lyrics.

Eccles
08-25-2002, 06:34 AM
It was good until the rapping and overuse of scratching.

Shael Riley
08-25-2002, 06:58 AM
I personally think the scratching is friggin' awesome! Reminds of DJ Killmore (Incubus.) The rapping's not bad either, but it's not great. inda Linkin Parkish. Good mix overall. Well worth the DL.

Lyricserver
08-25-2002, 07:52 AM
This is a unique style of interpreting the song. Me Likes! The rapp is ok, and doesn't drown out the BG.

DJ Crono
08-25-2002, 08:12 AM
THANK YOU EVERYONE!
I really enjoyed all the replies, it made my day to hear such wonderful critisism, for better or worse. As far as the translation, I'll give DJ Pretzel the "go" to use Evil's posted translation, it's about as close as it gets. I really was trying to go for something fresh and new, but don't get me wrong, I don't always do hip-hop. I tap into all styles of music, and am never biased, well, I try not to be anyways =). I compose techno/hip-hop/classical/trance/newage/rock/metal, and any other type you can think of. I love all music, and love to produce it as well. I will be submitting much more to DJ Pretzel in the near future, as I have only scratched the surface of my ammo. Please stay tuned for further remixes. Peace out-
DJ Crono "Jovette Rivera" 2002

mirkvid
08-25-2002, 09:08 AM
wow. i really thought this was gunna suck. good job. i look forward to more from dj chrono :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :roll: :?: :arrow: :cry: :oops: yuk. faces.

Caster13
08-25-2002, 02:54 PM
Yeah, this is like the first rap song I've ever heard in my life that didn't have the lyrics at the highest volume and centered out. It's appreciating to actually hear the instruments.

TheWired
08-25-2002, 03:00 PM
Wow, not bad rapping, seriously, no damn ghetto ! ^_^
Im french so this is stuff i can understand, and one of my friends made me listen to the original of those vocals .. great song, and twixing it with terra's theme is one hell of a crazy idea, but sounds dreadfully nice. Dude, nice job.

smithsonian
08-25-2002, 03:06 PM
I think having the lyrics in French definitely helps. I've heard some English-language VG raps on VGMix and in the WIP forums here, and you can always tell it's an amateur doing the vocals. Here, since I can't understand it, I can't tell if the guy's an amateur or a pro or somewhere in between . . . which only serves to allow me to enjoy the rhytms of his voice and the mix as a whole.

So, is this song in Canadian French? I know there's some differences between it and the dialects found in Europe.

Gigafreak
08-25-2002, 03:46 PM
I know next to no French whatsoever, but that's not an issue. It helps me worry less about the meaning behind the words, so I can pay more attention to the rhythm and tune. Heck, maybe it would work to rap in gibberish just for the rhythm and tune...

Anyway, I'm gonna have Terra stuck in my head all day now.

Now that I think of it, "Terra" is latin for "Earth" and "Aerith" is an anagram of "I, Earth..." Cool.

Woffester
08-25-2002, 04:11 PM
It was good until the rapping and overuse of scratching.

This is one of the very few rap pieces I will listen to and like. The scratching is perfect, not over used so, you're wrong. If you are suggesting this piece is bad because you don't like the scratching then you shouldn't have even commented. Personally this wouldn't normally be in my normal list of songs i would listen to, but it is excellent, innovative, and creative all at the same time. Three qualities that I vaule immensely, in my work and others. So there. Download it, even if you don't like hip hop, video game music, rap, french people, final fantasy, or the terra theme.

edit*** The scratching is not perfect because its my opinion, it just is. Its a fact.

overZEALous
08-25-2002, 04:54 PM
Well, in addition to Evil's Remix, I'm trying to help it out. For his Oh yeah! Part, yes, "Oh, Yeah" is the correct phrase from what I'm hearing. And the third different line, "J'ai ce qu'il faut dans les veines pour...[I have absolutly no idea] " I can't understand what's directly after pour, but I hear "C'est à toi, Baby!" (It's your turn, Baby!) At the end of the phrase. Perhaps someone can fill in the other word? Anyway, as for the second incomprehendable part, I'm as clueless as Evil on it. Other than that, I'm hearing what's written...once again, great mix, my favorite so far!

Eccles
08-25-2002, 05:39 PM
-edit-
Its grown on me.
Its original and its good if you like rap.

YoshMaster
08-25-2002, 05:44 PM
Hi! Well I was CRAZY surprised when I heard french!:) I live in Quebec (Canada anyone?:) and I'm french all the way so I was really... touched!:) Altought it's sounds like France french not Quebec french I personaly find it better for rap. Reminded me of Manau (Mano?) (great group!!! La legende de manau---> hot hot hot!)

If you could post the lyrics in french it would be nice (along with the translated ones). Also, going back to the France/Quebec accent, I'm very interested in knowing more about you! Anyhow, it's always cool to find some french speaking people on the web especially when they make us proud of our culture with great songs like this one!!!

Il y a beaucoup d'autre personnes qui parlent français ici? Hehe une phrase complete sans faute et avec des accents!:) Avec tout les chat, j'ai perdu l'habitude d'ecrire sans fautes... (c peut-etre pour ca que j'ai couler mon francais 101 a la derniere session!:) entk, j'espere avoir la joie d'entendre d'autre merveille de ta part DJ Crono!!! merci encore!

Evil
08-25-2002, 06:04 PM
I found the real lyrics. The song is called "Sans parrain ni mac" by KDD.
A lot of french (from France) slang I'm unfamiliar with so some of the words may lose their original meanings when translated.

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

Chacune des épreuves c'est des points qui comptent à chaque score.
Every challenge gives points that count on evey score.

J'ai ce qu'il faut dans les veines. Force extrême, haine. Seul dans le froid, plein de peine.
I have what it takes in my veins. Extreme force, hate. Alone in the cold, full of sorrow.

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

Fort et fier, je dépends de personne ici-bas avec moi. [something I can't fin the lyrics for].
Strong and proud, I don't need anyone down here with me. [missing lyrics].

Pas de garant, pas de carence. Pas de parrain ni mac*. Carré ou à l'arrache.
No safety net, no lack of anything. No godfather or friend. Square or torn off.**

Briser des montagnes de barrières sans être une centaine. S'imposer ici. Être libre, sans barreaux ni chaînes.
Break through tons of barriers without being hundreds. Assert ourselves here. Being free, without bars or chains.

Pas de portes ouvertes, pas de bonnes places à dégoter, rien dès le départ, mais tout à faire sur ce chantier.
No opened doors, no good spot to find, nothing from the start but everything to do on this construction site.

Pas de main sur mon épaule, pas de succès assuré, pas de voix qui me dit : "rap petit, ton chemin est tracé"
No hand on my shoulder, no assured success, no voice telling me "Rap kid, your path is traced."

Pas de boss sur mon dos, pas de mac* à mes côtés, pas de portes ouvertes, pas de bonnes places à dégoter, rien dès le départ, mais tout à faire sur ce chantier.
No boss on my back, no guy next to me, no opened doors, no good spot to find, nothing from the start but everything to do on this construction site

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

Chacune des épreuves c'est des points qui comptent à chaque score.
Every challenge gives points that count on evey score.

J'ai ce qu'il faut dans les veines. Force extrême, haine. Seul dans le froid, plein de peine.
I have what it takes in my veins. Extreme force, hate. Alone in the cold, full of sorrow.

Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks(rocks)

[repeat mixed parts of the lyrics]

Complete lyrics to the song: http://www.scripts-web.net/purple_az/FR/KDD/sans_kdd.html

*Note: I am unsure of the meaning of "mac", I'll use it as if it was a loos meaning for "mec" or "ami", but if someone knows the real meaning, feel free to correct my mistake.
**I have absolutly no idea of the meaning of this sentence. If someone knows...
Edit pour YoshMaster: Québec power ici aussi!

Shael Riley
08-25-2002, 07:50 PM
THANK YOU EVERYONE!
I really enjoyed all the replies, it made my day to hear such wonderful critisism, for better or worse. As far as the translation, I'll give DJ Pretzel the "go" to use Evil's posted translation, it's about as close as it gets. I really was trying to go for something fresh and new, but don't get me wrong, I don't always do hip-hop.

So is that you rapping? Or did you just scratch and mix. Kickin' scratching.

spnkmnky99
08-25-2002, 07:53 PM
I really enjoyed this mix. Sounded well put together. It's not thrown together like some others I have heard before. I give you mad props. I give it a 10 buddy. 8O

Nyarlathotep
08-25-2002, 07:59 PM
"Sans parrain ni mac" par K.D.D. (version FF6:Eres des points).
"Without a godfather or a pimp" [or "Without anyone from the french musical industry":) ] b y K.D.D. (FF6:Eres des points Remix)


Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks/in order to start
Chacune des épreuves, c'est des points qui compte à chaque score
Every challenge gives points that count on every score.
J'ai ce qu'il faut dans les veines. Force extrême, haine. Seul dans le froid, plein de peine
I have what it takes in my veins. Extreme force, hate. Alone in the cold, full of sorrow.
Pas besoin de qui que ce soit pour poser les premières pierres. x2
No need for anyone in order to set the first bricks/to start
Fort et fier, je dépends de personne, ici-bas. Avec moi: kappa, deux fois delta
Strong and proud, I don't need anyone down here with me. With me: K, double Delta [KDD=Kartel Double Détente , this group]
Frappe fort sur le beat comme un bassiste qui slappe fort.
Hit hard on the beat like a bassist who slap hard.
Pas de garant, pas de carence.
No one to give guarantees, no lack.
Nuit et jour pour faire mal
Night and day to make suffer [slang: to success]
Pas de garant, pas de carence
No one to give guarantees, no lack.
Sans parrain ni mac. Carré ou à l'arrache
Without a godfather or a pimp. With my friends or alone. [19th century criminal slang]
Briser des montagnes de barrières sans être une centaine
To destroy mountains of barriers without being a hundred
S'imposer ici, être libre sans barreaux ni chaînes
to be respected, to be free without any hindrance [literally: without guardrails nor chains] .
Pas de portes ouvertes, pas de bonnes places à dégoter
No easiness, no status to win
Rien dès le départ. Mais tout à faire sur ce chantier
Nothing from the beginning. But everything to do for this task.

[instrumental break]

Pas de main sur mon épaule, pas de succès assuré, pas de voix qui me dit : "rap petit, ton chemin est tracé"
No hand on my shoulder, no guaranteed success, no voice to say: "Make some rap music, child. Your future is already draw.
Pas de boss sur mon dos
No boss on your back
Pas de mac à mes côtés
No pimp at your side

[repeat mixed parts of the lyrics]

KDD is a french group from Toulouse: http://perso.club-internet.fr/fernould/kdd.html

Evil
08-25-2002, 08:43 PM
Thanks for the additions Nyarlathotep, the translation really needed input from someone on the other side of the ocean!

BadBob
08-25-2002, 09:59 PM
Daaaaaaaaaamn....


wow..


I haven't been as surprised by a remix since I first heard McVaffe's Cutman Sonata. I love it when one of you moves in a sudden direction from the original and turns it into something else completely. Very well executed remix, kudos to DJ Crono


I give it a nine, because the guitar in the end kinda overtakes everything else, but otherwise it's one of the best remixes to date.

Psycrow
08-26-2002, 12:39 AM
Hehe... the "no pimp at your side" thing cracks me up (terra + pimps? :P)... all the other lyrics = thumbs up

archlyn
08-26-2002, 12:43 AM
Fist off, the music was good.. the rythym was sweet. I just don't like songs with words. (In general, not just this song). I do hope to see an instrumental version of this sometime

frobnitz
08-26-2002, 01:09 AM
Absolutly increadible, extremly unique - I'm lovin this song!

Paranoid Cheese Sandwich
08-26-2002, 02:13 AM
Okay, first off, I don't mind if a song has words or not. I don't care at all about lyrics, just how it sounds. That being said, this is perhaps my favorite piece from OC Remix. True, I may be a bit (a.k.a a WHOLE FREAKING LOT) biased, given that the Terra Theme is probably my all-time favorite piece of VG music, but I really like this piece. The rapping really fits well, and the Frech accent and pacing makes it feel, I dunno, more right for the song. DJ Crono could've released it without the rap, and it would've been okay (but a bit plain), but the rap was what pushed it over the edge. I truly look forward to seeing more of DJ Crono's work.

Thorny_Elements
08-26-2002, 02:18 AM
Wow, I didn't think I'd like it, but turns out I did. It deserves caps, therefore, I will type it with caps at the begining of each word: Eres Des Points.

Now if only I knew how to say that Pas de mac à mes côtés... That could be a useful phrase :D

DJ Crono
08-26-2002, 03:46 AM
Hello again. I'm quite appreciative of all of you who took time out of your busy schedules to look up the lyrics for me. Mainly Nyarlathotep and Evil. Yes, this is from K.D.D., but the rest is mine to know. The remixes will keep coming, but like "Linkin Park", I think I put out my best first, so it's gonna be hard to keep up a good name with all you guys. But, I definitely will try to keep the quality at maximum and do my best in every song. Please fell free to email me at Jovette456@cs.com with any questions or comments you may have, I'm open to all suggestions. Thank you again, and I hope to keep you all on your toes. Peace out-
-DJ Crono "Jovette Rivera" 2002

Temporal
08-26-2002, 06:30 AM
I really like this mix, just like everyone else, but I'm a little concerned about the lyrics not being original. I'm not going to go so far as to say that it was wrong to use someone else's lyrics, but you should have given credit to KDD right off, in the ID3 and in your e-mail to DJ Pretzel. Otherwise, it's plagerism. I don't mean to sound hostile, but this is really not an issue to be taken lightly... I have nothing against derivative works (obviously, everything on this site is a derivative work of some sort) as long as credit is given where credit is due.

endblink
08-26-2002, 07:52 AM
Well, I was really excited about this mix.

I’m a fan of every genre (excluding country. Sorry country fans) and there are some excellent rap songs out there (current fav: Nas – One Mic).

The samples, scratching and rapping are all top notch. The guitar at the end is an excellent surprise and carries the song to an excellent finish.

But I will say this, it bothers me tremendously that DJ Crono did not give credit where credit is due. When people were attempting to translate the lyrics, DJ Crono backed away, neither providing lyrics himself, nor informing us who originally wrote them.

It seems kinda shady and disrespectful. It can easily be seen as infringing copyright on another artist’s material and calling it your own.

While I applaud the effort and the attempt to venture into new musical territory here at OCR, I do wonder if any steps should be taken regarding crediting the proper people and/or whether any reprimands should be made on DJ Crono for trying to take credit for someone else’s work.

Yes, all the ReMixes here play with other people’s work, but credit is given where credit is due and no one attempts to pass off the original songs as their own.

This is not original material, and it bothers me that DJ Crono tried to pass it off as such.

What do the rest of you think? I’ll be posting this in the ReView thread as well as General Discussion so it can reach a wider audience.

I do hope djpretzel responds because I’m curious to know his opinion in the matter.

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Legion303
08-26-2002, 08:27 AM
*shakes head*

Really, you'd think people would have fucking learned by now that YOU'RE GOING TO GET CAUGHT IF YOU USE SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK AND DON'T MENTION IT!

Don't walk down the same path other people have taken and try to do it again. I give everyone two chances. Not that you probably give a shit, but I really hope NOT to be disappointed like this again. Looking forward to original work from you.

-steve

Temporal
08-26-2002, 08:56 AM
I can understand why DJ Chrono may have felt afraid to mention that the lyrics weren't original... it may very well have resulted in the mix being rejected. Not that that is an excuse, but I understand. I don't know if there are any official rules about this (I don't submit, I just listen), but if not there should be... Personally I don't think it would be a big deal to allow parts of a mix to be taken from other sources, provided those sources are credited and most of the piece is original. This particular case might be pushing it, though, even if credit were given...

Aquas
08-26-2002, 08:59 AM
I'm gonna have a hell of a time showing this to my french class this year, haha. Fucking hell, great job DJ Crono. No matter how you got these vocals in this song.

*fades away*

DJ Crono
08-26-2002, 02:32 PM
About the lyrics. Sorry everyone for making you mad. I really should've included K.D.D. in the original I.D. Tag, but you see, honestly, the way I got them was from a royalty free sample collection, and was infringing on no copyrights, so I saw no reason to include them in the credits. I would never do that, as I would hate for someone to plagerise my own work. I apologize, and meant no harm. I was just making a song. Remember, all my clips from KDD were royalty-free, meaning, they were copyright free for the taking for ANYONE. Thank you.
-DJ Crono "Jovette Rivera" 2002

m68030
08-26-2002, 06:56 PM
Interesting, but definatly not my cup of tea. The scratching gets a little
annoying to me, not that I dont like scratching, but that it's the same
sample just being retriggered. The rap is a neat change in style, but
still it just doesn't do anything for me. It's a very well put together track,
I'm just not jumping up and down over it. Neat though.

Temporal
08-26-2002, 07:26 PM
Oh... Well if that's the case I suppose there's no problem...

[JEDI]Mac
08-26-2002, 09:27 PM
Onw of the best remixes I have ever heard. This is one of my favorite songs in any genre, Period. Outstanding job Crono.

Lem
08-27-2002, 12:18 AM
At first I thought it was an above average remix, but the past couple days I've been finding myself humming/singing it at work. Can't get it outta my head now =P

frobnitz
08-27-2002, 04:09 AM
I just downloaded that song that DJ Crono used in his Terra/French rap... and well, that song alone is - interesting to say the least. How he saw a connection between the two peices of music is amazing.

PaladinsHeir
08-27-2002, 09:18 AM
DJ Crono you made a excellent remix, worthy of best of the class on OCR. As for some of the people who thought that you took the lyrics from someone else(though you explained yourself well), for them I am disappointed. This site is about remixing, and these people accused you quickly without any facts from you. Though one did apologize, it still is not right to make accusations without some facts. The Reviews for the songs were coming in great until someone said, on the assuption that you were doing something wrong. I believe those who didn't apologize to you already should do so. Thats all I have to say, and DJ Crono keep the great mixes comin in.

CAREFUL< PIRACY POLICE IS PATROLLING THE BOARDS!!!
Everyone quickly hide!!

Xaleph
08-28-2002, 04:00 AM
well done remixing... however I don't think it was a good idea to post a song on this site that took lyrics/vocals from other songs... ocremix could get really screwed for this.

dj*lilith
08-28-2002, 05:09 AM
I have a very mixed opinion- rap literally disgusts me, so I am inable to like this song.

HOWEVER-

With personal bias/opinion set aside, it is a great track. The arrangement and concept is original and unique, and I commend the remixer for such a bold change of pace from the usual run-of-the-mill techno remixes that we all know and love.

DJ Crono
08-28-2002, 06:23 PM
Really Seraphim? But then what is OC Remix about? It's about taking things that are already copyrighten and mixing them anyways. So was DJ Pretzel wrong for redoing Lunar's Original main theme, and even singing it, same copyrigthen lyrics and everything? No, it's all fun. There's no money involved. He didn't claim it as his own, and neither did I. So don't worry, OCR.com is is no trouble.

Lexiticus
08-29-2002, 01:24 AM
First let me state that I absolutely hate the french language (Mostly cause of being forced to learn it in school) And I don't really like Rap..

But even then I still think this song godman kicks soo much ass! The Lyrics probably sound better in french than in english, (Like how some japanese songs in games and Anime sound stupid after being translated)

Anyway Props man you kick ass!

[JEDI]Mac
08-31-2002, 10:29 AM
Crono you are not doing anything wrong here. For one almost all good DJ's use samples of other songs and almost always, eastcoast style mostly, use other songs as their chorus. Don't let people badgering you here bother you. You did a great song, other people's lyrics or not. You are right, this is a remixing site and thats what you did. Just keep on doing what you do and don't let this deter your style. This last song was done magnificently and I would like to hear more songs in this style. So I hope that the peopler here have not changed your ideas too much. Great song, Its definatly my favorite on OCR and VG and one of my favorite songs period right now. Keep up the good work and good luck.

P.S. If you need some original lyrics Ill give ya some. :D

Black Darius
08-31-2002, 01:58 PM
This song has to be one of the best Final Fantasy mixes of its kind. DJ Crono,you have done nothing wrong, the only thing you would be doing is not posting this remix. It has a smooth, clean tone to it and I personally like the rap idea. You are a master of mixing Crono, and I certainly hope that you post some more enjoyable remixes here, because Eres Des Points was the work of a master! Brilliant!

Hamu-Sumo
08-31-2002, 02:56 PM
I hear Game-Music because I want not hear something in this style! It was not easy to make so a remix, of course, but I don't like the kind of music. Sorry!

3/10 (1=worst; 10=best)

DJ Crono
08-31-2002, 05:45 PM
Hamu-Sumo, uhhh, okay, but then why did you post? Just to tell me you didn't like it, and only like midi videogame music? Okay, I guess.But you at least could of been more constructive. But maybe that's just me, anyways, see ya'll, I've submittied my next song to DJ Pretzel, and he should ne posting it anytime now, you'll just have to wait and see what it is, I hope you all like it, I put a lot of hard work and effort into this song. Peace!!!!!!!!
-DJ Crono "Jovette Rivera" 2002

WhalePorn
09-12-2002, 07:27 PM
A risky peice, and I could not have expected such success with this gambit! Alot of skill went into this peice, and its not like any other remix on this site that I have heard. The french rap is a funny and catchy vocal backround that meshes well with the changes you made to the original. It doesnt really matter that this peice is a favorite amoung mixers as you established your claim to it VERY well Chrono. Highly recommended

Walrusgumbo
09-15-2002, 03:41 PM
One word, BLEAH!
I listened to this song and swore I would convulse.

1. The actual melody is almost completely drowned out.
2. The scratches get annoying really really fast.
3. MOANING! Every time I hear it, my hair stands on end. Is that supposed to be Terra or something? Yech!

In closing, it seems more like Rap with Terra's Theme played in the background. Further, it doesn't get points for being the first, I saw another one like it done to the Magitech Factory Theme somewhere else.

Elex Synn
09-15-2002, 08:26 PM
I like this piece. It's different. And variety is the spice of life.

The guy was rapping in FRENCH??? Thanx, I thought I was going crazy.

Eden
09-15-2002, 10:28 PM
Interesting piece, very original! The remix was rather smooth, and it's indeed surprising how well the music and the rapping goes together. One wonders where the ReMixer got his inspiration?

The song gets stronger towards the ending, in my humble opinion; the ending I liked best of all, because the tension was building in an excellent way.

Thanks for sharing!

Shhteve
10-07-2002, 07:55 PM
Wow, I was also suprised by the great sound this track has. As soon as I heard it was sung in French, I got a bit worried myself.. But lately, I've been looking into all sorts of music, even those that aren't in languages I understand. Because music is a language everyone can speak throughout the world that everyone can understand, and this is one sweet track. Nice work DJ Crono! Like your name too, Crono ruled. :lol:

DJ Crono
10-08-2002, 05:07 PM
One word, BLEAH!
I listened to this song and swore I would convulse.

1. The actual melody is almost completely drowned out.
2. The scratches get annoying really really fast.
3. MOANING! Every time I hear it, my hair stands on end. Is that supposed to be Terra or something? Yech!

In closing, it seems more like Rap with Terra's Theme played in the background. Further, it doesn't get points for being the first, I saw another one like it done to the Magitech Factory Theme somewhere else.
Ummm, let's try to be constructive here. This isn't a put-down review sheet okay. I put ALOT of work into this song, and it took a while. It's not just rap with Terra in the background, I made this song special, and THEN added the rap on top of the song, just for spice, K? I'm sorry you didn't find it to your liking, but let's not hate okay? Where's your remixes?

LuigiMario
10-08-2002, 09:19 PM
Ok, I did the whole registartion deal and what not just to tell walrusgumbo that he is 100% WRONG. I think that DJCrono did an excelent jod. The track was very tight, well put together, and overall a great song to listen to. It's one of my favorite tracks ever. I think that the song builds to the end beautifully and I can't speak french but I still find myself head bobbing to the lyrics because they fit with the rythym perfectly. Now, I'm not a remixer.. but I know many a friend who is and I know just how much effort goes into a remix, especially in a remix as busy as this one and for you, walrusgumbo, to take all of DJ Chrono's hard work and critize it as a horrible piece is just a travesty..... put a little more thougt beghind if a track sucks and why... but this track doesnt suck. The melody is all teh way there in the wailing guitar at the end as well and the acoustic-like sounds in the beginning. Not to mention that its a hip hop style remix... hip hop and scratches sound like they go together.

Mama Mia

Starblaze
10-08-2002, 10:58 PM
Ummm, let's try to be constructive here. This isn't a put-down review sheet okay. I put ALOT of work into this song, and it took a while. It's not just rap with Terra in the background, I made this song special, and THEN added the rap on top of the song, just for spice, K? I'm sorry you didn't find it to your liking, but let's not hate okay? Where's your remixes?

DJ Crono - I have made many-a-remix, and I agree with the guy's comments. The song was not to his liking - he said so. That's what reviews are for.

We are allowed to not like your song, and we are allowed to express that.

Bahamut
02-13-2003, 08:28 PM
I know this remix has been here for a while, and I'm kinda late in giving a review, but I just found the lyrics here (since I was very interested in them), and I have to say, that just makes this song quite a bit better to me IMO.

Alright, well anyway, I love how original this is (as I am a fan of all genres, no exceptions), and by the standards of rap so far (at least in the US), this brings it up to another level - better than most of them out there today. The creativity blew me out of the water when I first heard this, and it imprinted a remixer to remember: DJ Crono (and not to mention, his subsequent two OCR remixes are really cool and continue in this same vein of originality). The only two things I can really critique on were the samples and the kinda repetitive nature of the lyrics.

Well, keep up the good work!

RyuHoshi38
05-22-2003, 09:34 PM
Hey anyone have the MP3 of the orignal please contact me on:::

MSN: HisKingliness@hotmail.com
AIM: RyuHoshi38

zircon
08-21-2003, 02:20 PM
I do like the quality of the music itself. The arrangement and effects are well done, and the theme is not a simple retread, but has more variation and is quite unique, to say the least. However, the rapping is questionable. When you don't understand the lyrics, there's not much point to them. Also, the rapper's voice is distinctly "white" (for lack of a better term) and does not sound like professional rap at all.

However, overall, this is an above average remix, even if you don't overlook the subpar rapping.

Navi
10-04-2003, 04:01 PM
i metaphorically orgasmed on my keyboard whilst listening to this 8O Its brilliant 8O

rebirth9283
11-05-2003, 12:42 AM
Well, let me start by saying that, thanks to DJ Chrono, I am now a KDD fan...

Overall, a well-executed mix. And getting me to say something good about rap is an accomplishment. That's about what I can say...

Vlad Tepes Drac
11-15-2003, 06:13 AM
Haha...i bet Crono is REALLY good with the ladies. I mean...im sure his music causes ears to have friggin orgasms...i know it happens with me :P!!!

Everytime i load up my OCR playlist and have listened to the 4 mixes by crono at least 5 times each...then i load up the site! Always checking if maybe he has anything new? I CRAVE for some new music by him...>_< its juuuusssttt sooooo goooooooood!!

Fuck, i think im gonna force my parents to buy me some keyboards and other equipment!
And btw...what exactly do you use to make your Purely Genius Orgasmic Remixes?
Maybe if i wanna get started i can get a good idea if i know what you use...sure i can always check the Remixing 101 section but id much rather want to know what the GOD OF REMIXES uses...

Thanx bro...it would be sweet if u replied to this...cause i really wanna know :P

Peace
-Vladdie

*checks DJ Crono's list of remixes again*
P.S. DAMMIT WHERES HIS NEW MIXES? :cry: :P jk...hopefully there'll be some new ones out soon eh! Its prob lots of hard work so u need to take ur time ;) but ill be here, waiting patiently (ya rite :P)
Peace bro!

AhrenNighthawk
11-25-2003, 12:46 PM
Just simply put...DAMN!

Original, catchy and just pretty damn cool, djcrono hit the spot on this remix. It's one of those mixes that when you listen to, you'll love it or hate it. And I loved it. The French rapping over terra's theme and a bit of bass sounded very good. And if it has nonsense lyrics I don't want to know them, they just SOUND good. It's one of those times a voice is a good instrument. My only problem is that at the very end, it seems to get a bit jumbled together with the guitar, background AND rapping, so it made it a bit confusing. It was bold...but was it...daring?

Altogether, this bold and daring mix gets a 9/10, -1 for the confuzzeling and jumbled end.

DJ Crono
12-06-2003, 04:20 AM
Haha...i bet Crono is REALLY good with the ladies. I mean...im sure his music causes ears to have friggin orgasms...i know it happens with me :P!!!

Everytime i load up my OCR playlist and have listened to the 4 mixes by crono at least 5 times each...then i load up the site! Always checking if maybe he has anything new? I CRAVE for some new music by him...>_< its juuuusssttt sooooo goooooooood!!

Fuck, i think im gonna force my parents to buy me some keyboards and other equipment!
And btw...what exactly do you use to make your Purely Genius Orgasmic Remixes?
Maybe if i wanna get started i can get a good idea if i know what you use...sure i can always check the Remixing 101 section but id much rather want to know what the GOD OF REMIXES uses...

Thanx bro...it would be sweet if u replied to this...cause i really wanna know :P

Peace
-Vladdie

*checks DJ Crono's list of remixes again*
P.S. DAMMIT WHERES HIS NEW MIXES? :cry: :P jk...hopefully there'll be some new ones out soon eh! Its prob lots of hard work so u need to take ur time ;) but ill be here, waiting patiently (ya rite :P)
Peace bro!

Well. What I use is a Roland XP-80 Keytboard, and for my programs, I use Cakewalk, and some samples from various Ejay programs I've found. But mostly, it's the roland, because Ejay's are only good for sfx and little voices and stuff. Other than that, you can't use them when creating melodies and bass notes. And, for anyone who wonders when am I gonna sumit new mixes (if anyone does), I have no idea. I just moved to L.A. aaaaand, I'm so busy living and in this new relationship and getting my modeling career and music career off the ground, that, well, I have a lot of new original songs, just not really remixes. Actually, that's not entirely. I may submit my Zelda remix. Maybe not, I don't know. I'm also collabing with prophetic too on some stuff. I don't know when that's gonna hit off though. Ok then, talk to you guys later.

~DJ Crono "Jovette Rivera"~

EvilRyu38
03-17-2004, 06:10 PM
all right, I am sick of people that are narrow minded "I hate rap so I hate this remix" Fuck that, all my non gaming music is blaring death metal, but Hell I am not so blind, I like this piece, its not BORING like most of the OVERDONE terra remixes... I swear to god If I here someone bringing in another piano Terra remix and call it new, I'm going to fucking scream.

Also, Every goddamn hip hop artist samples shit, like Crap Daddy... People just need to chill about that.

[deltree]
08-22-2004, 08:07 PM
I just listened to this remix and was really diggin it until the singing or talking started. I have to say that with all of DJ Chrono's mixes I have listened to they are great until all the sampling and lyrics come up. Please, just stick with your orchestration and give up on your "rapping".

the frantic melon
09-14-2004, 12:44 AM
*sighs* ok, Chrono, sweetie, i'm dying to know: of all the kick ass things you could have done with such a sweet mix, why FRENCH RAP??? i mean, to begin with, that's just a contradiction in terms. the french CAN'T RAP, simply by definition. i mean, not that there's anything wrong with rap- it's just the french part that bothers me. otherwise, this is a really great mix.

Antifreeze23
10-02-2004, 10:05 PM
A francios? (Spelling?)

Sa Bon!

Tres Chaud.

(That's all the french that I can remember that I can apply to this post, unless you want me to start introducing myself...)

But really though, a very sick beat and scratching. (More for hip-hopers).

Would of been better in English though.

FantasioSpirouEtSpip
02-20-2005, 11:49 PM
A tour de force!

I'm French and normally don't like what KDD do, but this remix is a very different thing.

An original video game remix, an original FF6 remix, and an original rap song, all in one mix. :!:

If some of you guys want to know more about French rap, this article (http://archive.blackvoices.com/articles/daily/index_20000130.asp) is very interesting.

Cheers.

Zero_
08-04-2005, 09:57 AM
Heh, had doubts about this when I downloaded this. French Rapping? Terra's theme? Puh-wease. But then I actually downloaded it, and was blown away. This is a very unique and catchy remix.

Ænru
08-13-2005, 08:17 AM
All in all, I think it was a very decent mix, and I am surely no fan of rap. My only complaint, though, was that Chrono seemed at a loss for lyrics.

Did anyone else notice that the lines are very short with long pauses between? Rap is just the opposite, when they Never stop "spittin' out lyrics" (memories of that 'jump' song come to mind).

Over all, the lack of lyrics hurt the song in the rap fasion more than lean it toward the genre. He could have at least repeated some to fill in those uncomfortable pauses. Makes it sound kinda silly at times.

But I degress. Thumbs up on the mix. Keep up the good work, and take no offense, just use our criticism to better your future works, Chrono.

Navi
10-04-2005, 08:47 PM
All in all, I think it was a very decent mix, and I am surely no fan of rap. My only complaint, though, was that Chrono seemed at a loss for lyrics.

Did anyone else notice that the lines are very short with long pauses between? Rap is just the opposite, when they Never stop "spittin' out lyrics" (memories of that 'jump' song come to mind).

Over all, the lack of lyrics hurt the song in the rap fasion more than lean it toward the genre. He could have at least repeated some to fill in those uncomfortable pauses. Makes it sound kinda silly at times.

But I degress. Thumbs up on the mix. Keep up the good work, and take no offense, just use our criticism to better your future works, Chrono.

Buddy, I don't believe that you have a clear idea about what this mix is about. Crono isn't actually rapping. Those are sampled sounds from E-Jay, faux scratched over the remixed track.

Bummerdude
10-08-2005, 08:21 AM
Cette remix est trés bonne, c´est une idée brilliant faire une remix avec lyrics de francais. C´est bon. Dj Chrono, tu est fantastic.

If my frenchteacher see this, I´m gonna be killed cause of the horrible grammar.

Overall a very good, funny and very different remix. Now that we have a Terra remix as a rap-version, I think we got all the genres here. The only complaint I have is that the scratches sounds like Lemmings being killed.

Nice work Dj dude. 8)

DukeNukem007
10-31-2005, 05:12 AM
For whatever reason I thought it should be called "Tina B in tha House" ...

I like most rap and this is no exception, but it didn't hold up enough for me on repeated listenings...took more liberties with the original song than it had to.

SakakiAzu
11-12-2005, 08:01 AM
A very great remix. I liked how it was transformed so drastically into a rap song, but kept its original tine. The scratches get annyoing though.

8.75 out of 10

NinjaFlute
11-18-2005, 09:12 PM
dis beat is very smooth and catchy, however da uk garage stylish mc kind ruins it. ur flare scratch is kool but it doesn't sound real, sounds like u've programmed it usin' acid pro or summat. however, dis is a great mix.

:peace:out

Raithien
11-23-2005, 12:45 PM
I signed up for the forums to say just this.
I like DJ Crono. But I don't like this. I think it's garbage. That's all.

Bummerdude
11-23-2005, 04:16 PM
I signed up for the forums to say just this.
I like DJ Crono. But I don't like this. I think it's garbage. That's all.

If you didn't like a particular mix, please refrain from using an insulting or offensive tone. It's okay to say you wouldn't recommend a mix, would never listen to it again, etc., but making personal attacks or posting extreme and non-constructive reviews like "this sucks" etc. is not cool. Just try to keep things civil - again, this makes everyone's life easier.

Ree
12-06-2005, 05:57 PM
I have listened to this mix at least once a day since I got it about 3 or 4 months ago. I wanted to sign up just to say how much I love it. I'm not good at analyzing mixes and have only played with sound editing in my sound class when I was in high school. All I can say is that this song has feeling and power. 8.5 billion out of 10 :wink:

your the man now dog
05-23-2006, 02:15 PM
one of my favorite aspects about this site is that you never know what you're going to hear. i just dl'd one of the torrents and the moment i heard this song, i knew it was a winner. this unique remix is what makes ocremix beautiful.

if this was original rapping, it would have beaten out my favorite remixes within mere days. still, though, this is a great remix in terms of implementation and beat.

JoshJoshWhite
04-29-2007, 09:55 PM
Rap (not my style), French samples (uh, nah), those crazy scratches (wtf?), and Terra's theme (overdone) . . . all points as to why I should not enjoy this. I didn't think I could like it, but against all logic, I do. Though I do like it, I find it difficult to say exactly what in this remix makes it work. Maybe that it's one of the most unique remixes on the site, pretty catchy, well arranged, and not boring.

Honestly, I tried to hate the absurdity and craziness, but I failed. I put this down as a "guilty pleasure" remix. You may not want to admit that you enojy it, but really, you do. Admit it. :D

quoda
11-21-2007, 05:34 PM
This song is awesome. I like to crank it when I'm driving through the city. It's got a sweet beat and is just a really fun remix to listen to.

BTW, if you don't like rap or hip-hop... um... maybe you can refrain from comment? After all, you're biased against the song before you even start, really.

IndyCovaHart
03-18-2008, 11:12 PM
I've listened to quite a few remixes on this website, and it's not all too often that I deem any worthy of downloading onto my MP3 player.

This one is a no-brainer.

That bass line is active like a mofo, the scratching is tight, the guitar complements perfectly.

Whoever said this was very much akin to something Linkin Park might do was right on the money.

Job well done. I'm off to see if you have posted anything else on this site.

cremdogz
03-31-2009, 03:08 AM
I don't know how, I should not like this song, I think rap sucks, but this site surprises me time and time again, and it does show me that I do like almost any genre. I don't know what the lyrics are, and I'd like to have them, but in the meantime, they sounded pretty cool, with the French lyrics coming in a little noticeably when I realised that I didn't make out a word of what just played. But honestly, I loved it, the theme in the background sounded very cool, and the lyrics felt like they were meant to be there. The guitar in the music, mainly at the beginning sounded very hip-hop (another genre I can't stand) and it sounded great. At about 2:33, the electric guitar comes in, that brings in a nice change into the song, while the song stays at the same speed, if feels like it's speeding up, which was an effect I really loved. Seriously, kudos to you, I should not have liked this one at all, and I thoroughly enjoyed it since the first time I heard it.

cremdogz
08-31-2009, 02:06 AM
I need to follow this up, this has just been growing on me, massively. I don't get it, I should not be liking this. It's rap, and in another bloody language!!! Yet I'm hooked to it, especially that electric guitar towards the end, I love that the most. Man, I seriously don't know how, but I needed to praise you once more, since this is the most surprising remix that I like. Anyone reading this should really give this one a listen, I'm so surprised as to how much I've become attached to this song (lol and the electric guitar).

OA
09-01-2010, 09:00 PM
The beats are nice, but the canned rapping and scratches, kill it for me. Jovette has come a really long ways from these humble beginnings. :-)